December 18, 2025 • 41 mins
Aaron and Darlene watch some classic sci-fi from the 1950s and '60s, good and bad. They talk about what makes these films memorable and fun, and if you should take a trip back in time and enjoy these films as well.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
But aren't you fellows ever positive only about doomsday?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
What could be worse than disappointing a little girl disappointing
a big girl.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I have other ways of securing your cooperation. Sorry, miss
I was giving myself an oil job.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
When was it just azumbly as we've seen attitude to
it since we gave to a few low cabbages.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
An intellectual carrot. That mind boggles you see you see
your stupid lives.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Stupid, stupid, I said Santa Claus. Long enough, we will.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Bring him to Mars.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I've been afraid a lot of times in my life,
but I didn't know the real meaning of fear until
until I kiss peck me.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
One thing will be clear. It's not from man to
interfere in the ways of God's life.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Good evening, everybody, and welcome to Earth Versus Soup, Episode
two eighty seven. I'm Aaron Pollier, I'm darling. I think
we hit a new low. And that's after our special
episode of Paul Nashi a Go Go, where we just
like had three movies that in a row where we
didn't want to talk about it because they just were
(01:28):
kind of icky, right, they were all icky and didn't
really fit into the spirit of Earth versus soup. But
because we had seen three in a row, we felt
the need to actually talk about it and why Otherwise
we had just spent like six hours watching movies for
no good reason. Right. So this movie, though, may well
(01:49):
take the cake, and it is mesa of the Lost
Women from nineteen fifty three.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
It's worse than the Creeping Terror.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Okay, So if you remember back to our episode about
Creeping Terror, Darlene hated Creeping Terror, where I was like,
it's bad, but at least there are redeeming qualities.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You walked out when it repeated itself, sure, but.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
There was still positive things in.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
It to mea shaking book.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Was it bad? Was it bad? Absolutely? It was bad,
but it was nowhere near as bad as the propaganda films.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
And they lost their They had no money, they had
no costume, they had no What was the problem with
this movie?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
This movie was well, it has multiple problems. But I'm
gonna say again that while I truly believe this is
worse than Creeping Terror, it again does not make me
angry like the propaganda movies. So I guess that's a positive.
Like I didn't I walked out board not spitting nails,
(02:55):
so to speak. Right now, this movie had a problem,
Yes it had there's a problem. The problem was is
that everything about it kind of failed behind the scenes
and when they were first trying to film it. So
I guess I've read that originally the movie was under
(03:16):
the direction of Herbert TiVos, and the money ran out.
The money ran out, and no one liked the director,
and it was basically a completely miserable experience, regardless of
it that the money ran out or not. But since
the money ran out, the movie really wasn't finished. And
then like three years later ish another director was another
(03:41):
director and producer were brought in and they bought the
rights of the film for super cheap, and they ended
up filming new scenes and making a new movie out
of it. And while this should save the film in
a lot of ways, there are films that have done
something similar in the past, like reusing footage from another
(04:03):
movie that ever got released. Most of the time it
does not work, but in this case it does not
work to an extreme where there are series of scenes
that are completely disconnected from each other.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Well, you have the face with nothing in the background
a lot, then you.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Also have oh oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
There characters that keep coming up and we're like, who
are these people?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Well, the face in the in the black background, that's
like the actor standing against a black backdrop and just
talking because they don't have the original sets anymore. I
call it, you know, when the actor is stuck in
the phantom zone from that, Yeah, because they're just somewhere
you don't know where. It's all out of context. Now,
(04:53):
let's talk about the plot with the Well, actually, no, no,
we need to talk about other people that are actually
involved in this movie.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Well, you also wanted to say something about that Edward stole.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Oh no, no, Edward used the music from this and
actually arguably used it far better than this movie did.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Which movie Jilbate, which.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
We have not covered, but I have watched, and Darlene, yes,
we're watching it at some point because again, this is
another movie that is far worse than any Edward movie
that we've ever watched.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
And there's a lot of narration in this movie.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Oh see, there's a there's a connection with Edwood that
the narration in this is overwhelming and is derogatory to
the characters, like it sneers at them. I even have
like quotes written down, but there's there's narration. There is
overly loud music, which then Edward takes and uses better
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which okay, great, which.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Sometimes drowned out the bile dialogue. And do not put
on the closed caption because the closed caption is not
what the.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Words depending on where they're watching it. Yeah, because we
watched it on YouTube for free, because a movie like
this should be free, because if you spent a single
penny on it, you would feel cheated. Let's be fair,
this is this is not worth a red set. But
the at least in the version that we watched, the
(06:28):
subtitles of it were completely different from the dialogue, and
it was it made us laugh, like everything, like every
sentence was different, but not like it was a completely
different movie. It was still saying the same thing, just
in a completely different way, which well.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
There was using different words for the for certain things too.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, I just didn't get it. So okay, So the
one person that is in front of the screen, in
front of the camera, I should say, is Jackie Coogan.
We know Jackie Coogan is a good actor. He plays
Fester in the original Adams Family.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Is this him starting though?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
No, No, he's he did work before this, but this
is way before Adam's family, let's be fair, so he
doesn't really look like Uncle Fester at all, and plus
Uncle Fester had a whole bunch of makeup. There are
other noted actors in this that you probably have seen
in westerns or other like background bits in other Earth
versus Soup movies that we have covered. Regardless, there really
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isn't any other named people, and to be fair, no
one stood out enough for me to care to look
them up, except for the narrator, because his voice was
overwhelming and loud and pretty much drowned out the rest
of scenes that were happening. And that's that's Lyle Talbot.
And he was in a lot of things. Why he
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wasn't in front of the screen, who knows. He probably
owed somebody a favor or needed Screen Actors Guild, Screen
Actors Guild health insurance or something for the year and
decided to do this. I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Just a little bit of money. So maybe let's.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Let's start with the plot before the credits even begin.
We have a hallmark of a badly produced movie because
they're trying to grab people to watch the movie to
shock you, but the shock isn't that good, and it
kind of ruins reveals later on in the movie okay,
(08:34):
and that is a woman kisses and kills a man
as the narrator asks, have you ever been kissed by
a woman? Like this credits? And uh, okay. Look the
woman that they have in this as like, what's her name?
Taraan Tella Transla is Tandra Quinn. She is attractive, She
(08:58):
moves her body into such a way as to be
inhuman in a lot of scenes, and she might be
the best part of this movie, but you ruin the
fact that like she just murders people right at the
beginning of the movie rather than kind of like trying
to string out some sort of mystery right away. And
then it goes into credits, and you have the narration
(09:21):
over that pre credits thing. It goes into the credits,
and then my notes again for one like, okay, this
is a rare, rare example of when Aaron's notes become
incoherent because the movie is incoherent. You didn't even write
notes through like the first fifteen minutes of the film
(09:42):
because it was nonsense.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Well, the first thing I have is narrator made no sense.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
No, he makes no sense. And I say, the narrator
bitches about how about humans are dumb and how they're
no better than hexapods, And I immediately got pissed off
because I already I knew that this movie had spiders
in it, and spiders aren't hexapods. They have eight legs.
Goddamn it, they have eight legs. Why can't you get
(10:07):
a simple thing right? Why don't you just call them
a rachnids not hexapods. Hexpods is wrong, a raknids. Just
use a rachnids. Everyone knows what a raknids.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Are, especially people that would watch this movie at this time.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
God, it just it baffled.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
There was how many how many movies have we done
with the raknids?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I don't know a lot, but Tarantula might be the
best one. I love Tarantula. Anyway. A man and a
woman are lost in the Great Mexican Desert and.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Are picked up by somebody that.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Was looking way prospecting.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, I wondered what he was doing because he's in
a in a jeep and he keeps like spying and
following them, and here's it. And I didn't understand, let me,
let me finish this. I didn't understand why it took
him so long when they are walking dragging each other
to pick them up.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Because he doesn't see them, and I think it was
trying to put up some sort of sense of tension
if he will see them. But again there's no sense
of relative location between these two people and where he is.
And then they're already flashing to like random white robed
women like posing on rocks and trying to look menacing.
(11:28):
So are where is everybody? I don't get? And all
during this the narrator is just shitting on humans and
belittling the characters. It is strange. And here's the thing.
Even at this point, there are movies that are bad
that you can laugh at. Creeping Terror you can laugh
(11:50):
at it's ridiculous. This is not funny.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I actually think I asked you was this MSTK.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And it's not. They passed it up because it's just
not it's it's so bad.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
There is nothing that you could because my thought was
that I don't even think you could do it.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
There was a riff tracks done for it. Though there
was a.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Riff, I would be I am surprised that they could.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I want to watch the riff tracks version of this
to see how they handled it, because it's it is
really difficult to laugh at. And the only things that
I was laughing at at this point was just how
disconnected everything already felt. And and I tend to go
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into movies without researching a ton of background stuff, and
at this point in watching the movie, I didn't know
that it was like basically two separate movies that were
kind of shoved together, but it already felt that way,
even in my notes, like what's going on these it's
like there's two movies filmed at two separate times, and the.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Well, there's also a third one where you have the
black the black screen.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
There's the narrator talks about how they're exploring the desert
of death, and again I just keep writing down the narrator,
and the narrator continues to mock this these couple as
soon they will be dead things. And okay, come on, man,
(13:25):
we're like three minutes into the film. You have there's
two people that are clearly in peril. Okay, a man
and a woman. They look injured, right as the narrator,
you should be trying to build up sympathy for these characters, like,
(13:45):
I hope they get found. If these are our main characters,
and they are, you should be building up sympathy for
them or setting up backstory.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Now here's a question that I'll ask Aaron, and I
know the answer to it. Do you know what any
of the characters' names?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
No, not a single one except for the main villain.
Except for the main villain, And I took notes. Again,
I take notes. I don't know a single character's name
except except Master Faster. No, well, you know a different
one than I do, Fester, Uncle Fester. I constantly wrote
down his name is doctor Aranya. Okay, because it's so weird.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I have Masterson on my list, and I do have
the Tarantus masters.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Oh okay, never mind. Yeah, there there is a character,
So we know one character each. I know the lead character,
top Build, who is Uncle Fester, Jackie Coogan, that's it.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
And the person that was the great, the great, the
greatest actress in this.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
This Tarantella.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
She didn't speak a word.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Not a word. She was the best because she actually
had screen presence. But again, like, let's go back to this.
I guess the couple are found and brought to Ameera
Exico hospital, and then I say, oh wait, no, it's
not in a hospital. They were taken to an oil company office.
Even though they were suffering from extreme dehydration, you know,
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severe sunburn exposure.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Hospital, they were got.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Into an oil company office. It's that Amera Exico oil company.
And we're told we're told that they must be from
a missing plane that disappeared however long ago. People are
just making assumptions, right, they don't know who these people are.
They're not checking, they're just guessing. And we get a
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racist stereotype here of a his name is Pepe. I
remember that character because I was offended for everyone. Remember
Pepe Pepe is a racist stereotype, and he's offensive. Anyway, there,
I guess that the guy comes to whoever, whatever character
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that is, I honestly don't know. I honestly don't remember
his name. Even in my notes, I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I don't have I have man and woman.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Okay, So the guy waiting and pilot and he starts.
He finds out that he's in an oil company office,
and he begs the oil company dude to load up
an oil truck because the only way to deal with
these things out in the desert are to burn them out. Okay, cool,
no problem. I think that that's one of the things
(16:34):
that got me a little interested. This guy's begging for
an oil company truck to go hose down people in
like diesel fuel or something like.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Okay, okay, wow, didn't we go through this one with
them that that's not a smart move.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
They scatter from fire. He says that there's like an
underground lab on the Mesa, and Pepe is the only
guy that immediately believes him, and he Pepe has to
convince everybody that this guy is telling the truth because
Pepe's seen the underground lab.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I guess is Pepe Mexican? Or is he he's ache person? Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I don't know. I don't know, Darlene, I didn't look.
I don't care. Really, he's still a racist stereotype. If
they wrote him that way, he might he actually might be,
like I could look it up here. Hold on, his
name is chris Pin Martin. I'm looking online. Let's see
here he was He was born in Tucson, Arozogna in
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eighteen ninety three. Wow, so he was he was around
for a while. Does he have a Hispanic heritage? I
don't know. Maybe maybe, but I'm not gonna make assumptions.
This was his last movie. Wow, okay, this is his
last movie, and he played a racist stereotype. It's a
little sad anyway. He has to convince everyone. So, oh, here,
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I have a Masterson decides to go out to the Mace.
I actually do have a character name right in here.
He sees a woman in a white dress climbing rocks.
He's going out to doctor ARODYA. Okay. Masterson is the
guy that acts like an idiot all the way through
the rest of the film, and then he has made
not an idiot in the end. And this is because
the two different movies were made. In one he's like
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a psychopath and one he's a victim, which is it's weird. Okay,
so right now he's he's a victim at this part
of the film.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Well to me, I have him as the villain too.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
He's being brought into a cave with a door, and
the sound the soundtrack I write here, is intensely loud,
and the narrator is talking, often describing everything we see,
thus wasting his words, like there's no point in you
telling us what we're seeing. We're already seeing it. This
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is not a novel where you're trying to paint a
picture in someone's mind. We're literally effing seeing it. Stop.
Inside the cave is a laboratory with lots of women
wearing odd hairstyles and makeup. And here's where we both
looked at each other and said, some of this is
actually kind of interesting. Some of the costume choices, right, Yeah,
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some of the hairstyles are odd, but not like off putting,
They're just odd, Like, Okay, they're trying to do something here.
I'm trying to give some positivity to this because there
are things that kind of peaked my interest. Doctor Aranya
needs the remote location, and he tries to make some
excuses about why he needs the remote location, but he
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has proven all of his theories and produced things. And again,
at this point there's a lot of meaningless babble and
things that are clearly scientifically wrong. So those all caught
my attention. Aranya is conducting an experiment with the pituitary
gland of people.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
With what he calls hexapods.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
With what he caused hexapods. But Rancela's yeah, and the
doctor Doctor Aranya also says that he can telepathically talk
to the resulting creatures, the large the large tarantulas and
the women that I guess are also tarantula's. Yeah, because
(20:21):
uh we we see, we see tarantella that the character
Tandra Quinn, she doesn't talk all the way through this movie,
but she, like I guess she's a tarantula as well.
I don't know. He he has humanoid tarantulas that look
totally human. He says that they are indestructible like tarantula's
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because of course tarantulas.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
And in the next Senson, next sentence sentence, he says
that she'll live to be one hundred and twenty or so, Yeah,
and possibly past that.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
So how can you do how do you know?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
How can you know that? And how can you say
at one point indestructible and then yet.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Because they inherited the indestructibility of tarantula's, folks, I hate
to break it to you, tarantulas are not indestructible. No,
My brothers had a tarantula when I was growing up.
We had to be very delicate with it at times.
It died, by the way, after you know, about ten years.
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Oh well, it had a good long life. She had
a good Long Life was it was a female. But
this is where the movie you can tell that this
was filmed later because at this point Masterson freaks out
and he says, you're evil, and I have to stop you.
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You're an idiot, Masterson, because why would you start saying
all these awful things surrounded by Doctor Aranya's loyal hench
women and a giant gudnamn tarantula that's hiding behind a
screen that he literally just you just saw it and
you start acting like you are going to kill.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Him, and the character Tarantula e La Tarantella Tarantella, she
actually injects him with something.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, and then then we get this weird transition where
I guess he loses his mind. I don't know, any experiment.
And again this is because we have to go back
to the original plot of the movie where he's just
kind of like a weird psychopath and he just has
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like no emotions and talks really slowly.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
And the masters leaves an asylum.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, but there gathered two separate plays. It's not like
they stopped filming and then resumed filming later on with
the same plot to try to like finish the movie.
They just inserted weird shit into it that clearly is
a break. Now at this point in the movie, where
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maybe it's a seventy minute ish movie, okay, we're about
fifteen minutes in the rest of the movie. I have
half a page of notes because it is like it's
all meaningless. And at one point in the movie, since
we were watching this on YouTube, I turned it up
(23:38):
to one and a half time speed and it felt
like it was better paced but still dragging slow. That
shocked me.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
And there is a face that gets thrown up by
itself with another flash of another person I've never seen
him in the movie, the otherwise, the old the old
guy that looks like forty or something I be that
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would have been worn out by.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Let's let's let's get back to what few notes I have.
At this point, we have a scene in a cantina
with lots of dancing and people, and Masterson approaches an
older man and a young blonde woman who has already
said she thinks the cantena is a junkie pate place
and filled.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
With filth, and I'm like, out loud in the place, yeah,
you're being what's really funny is, oh, we'll get we'll
get you this our best table Yeah, and he shoes
off of the locals and flips over the tablecloth and
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it's still staying.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, it's still stayed. That was cute. Now this is
from the original film. This is from This is a
original footage.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I have something to say that's good about this one. Okay,
the music there was played by three people and it
was decent.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
But that's just from the soundtrack. It's still the same
soundtrack that Edwood took. Yeah, it's fine. It looks good.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
And they made the bar look smoky. Yeah, and it
made me question whether they just walked into a very
sleeamy bar or took it over.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
It was well lit, it was well lit. There wasn't
fighting going on. It seemed like people were actually just
enjoying themselves. There were women there on their own that
weren't prostitutes, so like women felt safe to be there
on their own. And there was female dancing that was
not erotic because Tarantula woman comes out and starts kind
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of like doing this weird Italian spider dance. It's a
real thing, by the way, and Masterson just shoots her. Now,
mind you again, this is this is the original footage
where she was intended to just be the victim of
Masterson because he was a sociopath mass murderer, like a
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serial killer kind of person. But we know from the
secondary footage that she's indestructible. But there's no reason for
her to be dancing there as a tarantula woman when
none of the other women from there the experiment are
coming there. Why is she there dancing when she's kind
of like a monster.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I didn't understand that either. I don't know, but I
will say that was pretty nice.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Masterson also quotes the Bible all the way through this
at this point, is that what he's doing, he's quoting
the Bible. He's quoting the Bible. He pulls a gun, shoots,
shoots tarantul woman. He seems to be brainwashed at this point. Again,
this is before I read that it was two separate movies, Like,
why is he brainwashed? Why did he just shoot the
assistant of doctor Ranya? If he has been brainwashed by
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doctor Iranya, that doesn't make sense because if she is
now here undercover for doctor Ranya, everyone just sees her
get up from redone footage to the second footage that
they shot. She just kind of gets up and leaves,
and everyone's like, wow, that's weird.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
This movie kind of reminds me of the little game
you used to do of of storytelling. You'd only get
one person would start a paragraph, then the next person
would only get that paragraph. And then you were supposed
to write a paragraph it's and then you the next
person would only get that Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
It was the It's kind of like the telephone game,
except the story that you write is completely nonsensical.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Well, every person in the room only gets the previous
yeah paragraph, And that's what it feels like. This is
what with It was to teach us that we had
to plan out storytelling notes.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Heresay, everyone gets in a plane. The movie is increasingly disjointed.
I don't understand what's really going on. The plane crashes,
blonde woman smokes, they're on a lost mesa. How do
you know you're on a lost mesa if you don't
know where you crashed? And how is it lost if
you're there and know about it.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
She is supposed to be a fiance of someone else,
and then she sits there and flirts with the pilot. Yeah,
and the pilot and her are the ones that come
out in the.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
End, there's this scene of darkness where no one can
see anything. The pilot fires a single flare, but multiple
fireworks explode in the sky.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
I missed that.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, yeah, I don't have any food and he says,
not even a k rash and I'm like, okay, I
smiled at that.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Good for you. This is the original film. Okay, you
can tell the original film from the rest of.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
It, because Masterson is acting like an idiot and a sociopath.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
And we have the worst romance scene that comes.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Up insistent guitar music. They have to go out exploring
for food with only a pen light for illumination. What
else do we have? The tarantula woman stalks them. One
of the guys is fatally attacked. It's so dark. They
have to hold each other's hands, but we can see
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them just fine because it's just all a well lit set.
But they're all holding hands and walking around and freaking
out about things touching them.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Oh my god, one of them gets killed, right, Oh no,
woman stalks them.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Wander wander, wander, pointless wander. These are like my notes,
It's just wandering, wandering, wandering, pointless wander. This movie is
damn near unwatchable in my Oh, two characters kiss, which
is the blonde woman, I guess the pilot.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Oh, and that is the worst Roman Matt scenes I
remember nowhere. Okay, first thing they do, the black dialogue,
the black screen, the phantom zone they do, you've got
the original film, and then you go to phantom zone
with the girl. Then you go back to original stand
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and then.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
It's phantom zone with him because.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
You know, a sudden the next thing you have, she's
like I said, she is supposed to be a fiance
to the one of the guys that the guy.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, and sure.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Then they go into this kissing passionately and you're like,
where did this come out of? And I think that's
what you said.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah, where did this come from? I don't know? And
then like Wu. There's a guy named Wu in this.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
He's the her fiance's uh man servant. I don't know
who he is, but he ends up being connected to
then gets killed.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
He gets killed because the girls attack him, and then
giant tarantule attack and capture everybody, and then it's kind
of explained that Masterson lost his mind and Ranya decides
to restore his mind because I guess they want to
have new footage of him, and they didn't get all
the footage of the original plot done. Master Sin then
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acts crazy and sets the lab on fire. Now we
return to the start of the movie, the end, and
I honestly could care less how it really ended. It's
that it was.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
It was discussing what happened, because it's it's the end
of the movie that began with the movie. After having
a weird scene in the front part.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Again again, I'm gonna say again, this did not make
me angry. I was baffled more than angry. The the
prop of movies that we watched early in Earth Versus
Soup episodes made me angry how inane and counterintuitive that
they were, because like when you're making a propaganda film,
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you're supposed to be saying a specific thing, like pro America,
but each one of those things had like odd were
oddly anti American and anti democracy. And that's what really
made me mad.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Well, it was what it was quite racist. This movie
was quite racist to racist. There was the Mexican that
that was. Then there was how they treated the the
Asian guy.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Woo Woo, Yeah that's his name, Wou. I guess I
do remember another character, even though I don't even have
it down in my notes. This didn't make me angry.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
I was more dribbling.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, I was just confused constantly of why this movie
is and bored is this movie?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
If you know, if this wasn't so confusing, it would
be so boring?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
No, I think I think it is why it's so
boring because you realize that your confusion is never going
to be solved, It's just going to continue. And that's
where your brain shuts off. You can't even laugh at
it because there's note enough consistency in the movie to
make a joke. That's the problem. Like we again, we
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have watched movies where it's so bad we can sit
there and laugh at it. Creeping Terror, you hate Creeping Terror.
It might be your worst movie that we have watched,
your least favorite.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Now this one is?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
This one is because Creeping Terror is eminently rewatchable compared
to this. Because you could laugh at Creeping Terror, you
could sit there and joke around about it and say, okay,
yeah they had problems with it.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Was more memorable, much more memorable.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I'm not gonna remember a single thing about this except
the fact that, like there's the the Trantula woman that
dances in it, and that it's completely not nonsensical. Uh,
And well, I can't say that I'm not gonna not
remember anything, because I probably will. I remember most of
the films that we deal with.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
But Aaron kept on talking taking off the closed captions,
and I was snickering.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
About that because the close captions were so different. I
don't know, it's so hard to describe. It's so hard
to describe this movie incoherent, in an in a coherent way,
because it's not. It is not.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
And what what?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
What works? What works? Let's stop, let's stop for a second.
What works? There are things at work.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
The dance scene with the Tarantella, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Doing like an actual like Italian dance. That was nice.
I'll say. Some of the costuming for the girls nice, right.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
The inter the the scene was interesting of the bar, restaurant,
Smokey Dive, Southwestern dive. That scene by itself it was fine.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, But everything else was just sort of shoved into shoved.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Into everything, and the narration did not work.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I see. I wouldn't even say that that one scene
worked because in order for a scene to work, in
my mind, I appreciate and respect your opinion on that,
by the way, but I'm going to disagree.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
If you took it and made it a volve built.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Vaudeville scene scene, it would work. I don't. I disagree
because but hear me out, hear me out. This is
not me trying to like disregard your opinion. I feel
that it can't work as a scene because in context
to the greater overall, it does not fit. And you
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have to have a beginning, like why all this is
happening to come into the scene, because it's not like
an opening scene.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
No, but I'd say if you took just that scene
out and not have anything front and back and it
was just you were writing on just as a scene,
it had it kept your attention.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Okay, it kept my attention.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yes, I'll agree the characters you went, she's a total's
a bitch, she's a bit. He's a wealthy person that
she's just snared.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, but she's not, remember but she is. Why are
they there?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Why does Masterson shoot the woman?
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
It does not work as a scene.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
It works as a scene, not as a part of
the story.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Okay, I mean if you had. I'll let you have
your opinion. I'm okay with that. I don't think there's
a single scene in this movie that could be taken
by itself to say that it's even rises to like,
let's say, a bad level at the best. At the best,
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it's very bad.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Like the one thing that I actually wrote notes on, okay,
besides a little short things that says the couple was
picked up, I master leave, Masterson leaves the asylum. And
who's the guy that I didn't get? The guy that
kept on He said he was the nurse. Whatever happened to.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Him, I don't know. It didn't matter. Obviously, it obviously
didn't matter. When my notes are so disjointed that I'm
writing down that the movie does not make sense. I
don't care about characters. I don't understand motivation. I don't
understand why people are saying what they're saying. Come on,
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I mean, fine, there's reasons why the movie is this way.
No one got along with the original director of producers.
It was it ran out of money. They stopped filming.
A different set of people came in and tried to
get everyone back involved with it to film completely new
scenes that had nothing to do with the originals and
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black screen them put him in the phantom zone, but
like mashing him together. Everything else about this movie besides
to me, everything except the women's costumes, arguably Tandra Quinn
doing that, Oh no, for sure, Tandra Quinn doing the
Italian dance.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
To me, this word this is like going to a
secondhand store, like a salvation, a salvation, okay, getting five
boxes of puzzles and trying to put it all and
putting only half of them in one box each and
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then trying to put it together.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah, like you have like four Thomas Kinkaid paintings that
are puzzles and it's all mixing.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
You know, they're missing pieces.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
You know they're missing pieces. They're all by the same
they all tend to have the same idea in general,
but they're all different puzzle and you can't put it
together very well. It does not make a coherent picture.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
That is this movie.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
That is this movie. I can't say anything else about it. Really,
Everything fails in this movie except to me the dance,
the costume of the women and the dancing. That's it out. Clearly,
we don't recommend it because it just it isn't even funny.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
It's it's a one.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
W Wow, this is a one. I don't I honestly
don't know if I.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Can go that far. You can go with a one
and a half, maybe two.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
I can't do it too. It has to be a
one and a half. This is almost the definition of
this is no longer a movie. This is this is
this is just a very bad alcohol induced nightmare that
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really doesn't isn't a nightmare. No, it's just like a hallucination,
like what what? Nothing is really piecing together? This isn't
a movie. This isn't a movie. I will agree with
that it fails at being a movie. I can watch it.
There is dialogue, there are characters, There are middle school
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stage productions, better well, more well produced.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
The acting wasn't even that great.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
No, so I think we're I don't want to I
don't want to be labor this movie anymore. I'm Aaron,
I'm Darlene. Good evening, keep watching the Skies. At no
point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close
to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
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Speaker 1 (41:44):
Good night,
But aren't you fellows ever positive only about doomsday?
Speaker 2 (00:03):
What could be worse than disappointing a little girl disappointing
a big girl.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
I have other ways of securing your cooperation. Sorry, miss
I was giving myself an oil job.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
When was it just azumbly as we've seen attitude to
it since we gave to a few low cabbages.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
An intellectual carrot. That mind boggles you see you see
your stupid lives.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Stupid, stupid, I said Santa Claus. Long enough, we will.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Bring him to Mars.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
I've been afraid a lot of times in my life,
but I didn't know the real meaning of fear until
until I kiss peck me.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
One thing will be clear. It's not from man to
interfere in the ways of God's life.
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Good evening, everybody, and welcome to Earth Versus Soup, Episode
two eighty seven. I'm Aaron Pollier, I'm darling. I think
we hit a new low. And that's after our special
episode of Paul Nashi a Go Go, where we just
like had three movies that in a row where we
didn't want to talk about it because they just were
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kind of icky, right, they were all icky and didn't
really fit into the spirit of Earth versus soup. But
because we had seen three in a row, we felt
the need to actually talk about it and why Otherwise
we had just spent like six hours watching movies for
no good reason. Right. So this movie, though, may well
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take the cake, and it is mesa of the Lost
Women from nineteen fifty three.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
It's worse than the Creeping Terror.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Okay, So if you remember back to our episode about
Creeping Terror, Darlene hated Creeping Terror, where I was like,
it's bad, but at least there are redeeming qualities.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
You walked out when it repeated itself, sure, but.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
There was still positive things in.
Speaker 1 (02:14):
It to mea shaking book.
Speaker 2 (02:16):
Was it bad? Was it bad? Absolutely? It was bad,
but it was nowhere near as bad as the propaganda films.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
And they lost their They had no money, they had
no costume, they had no What was the problem with
this movie?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
This movie was well, it has multiple problems. But I'm
gonna say again that while I truly believe this is
worse than Creeping Terror, it again does not make me
angry like the propaganda movies. So I guess that's a positive.
Like I didn't I walked out board not spitting nails,
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so to speak. Right now, this movie had a problem,
Yes it had there's a problem. The problem was is
that everything about it kind of failed behind the scenes
and when they were first trying to film it. So
I guess I've read that originally the movie was under
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the direction of Herbert TiVos, and the money ran out.
The money ran out, and no one liked the director,
and it was basically a completely miserable experience, regardless of
it that the money ran out or not. But since
the money ran out, the movie really wasn't finished. And
then like three years later ish another director was another
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director and producer were brought in and they bought the
rights of the film for super cheap, and they ended
up filming new scenes and making a new movie out
of it. And while this should save the film in
a lot of ways, there are films that have done
something similar in the past, like reusing footage from another
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movie that ever got released. Most of the time it
does not work, but in this case it does not
work to an extreme where there are series of scenes
that are completely disconnected from each other.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Well, you have the face with nothing in the background
a lot, then you.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Also have oh oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
There characters that keep coming up and we're like, who
are these people?
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Well, the face in the in the black background, that's
like the actor standing against a black backdrop and just
talking because they don't have the original sets anymore. I
call it, you know, when the actor is stuck in
the phantom zone from that, Yeah, because they're just somewhere
you don't know where. It's all out of context. Now,
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let's talk about the plot with the Well, actually, no, no,
we need to talk about other people that are actually
involved in this movie.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Well, you also wanted to say something about that Edward stole.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
Oh no, no, Edward used the music from this and
actually arguably used it far better than this movie did.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Which movie Jilbate, which.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
We have not covered, but I have watched, and Darlene, yes,
we're watching it at some point because again, this is
another movie that is far worse than any Edward movie
that we've ever watched.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
And there's a lot of narration in this movie.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Oh see, there's a there's a connection with Edwood that
the narration in this is overwhelming and is derogatory to
the characters, like it sneers at them. I even have
like quotes written down, but there's there's narration. There is
overly loud music, which then Edward takes and uses better
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which okay, great, which.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Sometimes drowned out the bile dialogue. And do not put
on the closed caption because the closed caption is not
what the.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Words depending on where they're watching it. Yeah, because we
watched it on YouTube for free, because a movie like
this should be free, because if you spent a single
penny on it, you would feel cheated. Let's be fair,
this is this is not worth a red set. But
the at least in the version that we watched, the
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subtitles of it were completely different from the dialogue, and
it was it made us laugh, like everything, like every
sentence was different, but not like it was a completely
different movie. It was still saying the same thing, just
in a completely different way, which well.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
There was using different words for the for certain things too.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Yeah, I just didn't get it. So okay, So the
one person that is in front of the screen, in
front of the camera, I should say, is Jackie Coogan.
We know Jackie Coogan is a good actor. He plays
Fester in the original Adams Family.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Is this him starting though?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
No, No, he's he did work before this, but this
is way before Adam's family, let's be fair, so he
doesn't really look like Uncle Fester at all, and plus
Uncle Fester had a whole bunch of makeup. There are
other noted actors in this that you probably have seen
in westerns or other like background bits in other Earth
versus Soup movies that we have covered. Regardless, there really
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isn't any other named people, and to be fair, no
one stood out enough for me to care to look
them up, except for the narrator, because his voice was
overwhelming and loud and pretty much drowned out the rest
of scenes that were happening. And that's that's Lyle Talbot.
And he was in a lot of things. Why he
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wasn't in front of the screen, who knows. He probably
owed somebody a favor or needed Screen Actors Guild, Screen
Actors Guild health insurance or something for the year and
decided to do this. I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Just a little bit of money. So maybe let's.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Let's start with the plot before the credits even begin.
We have a hallmark of a badly produced movie because
they're trying to grab people to watch the movie to
shock you, but the shock isn't that good, and it
kind of ruins reveals later on in the movie okay,
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and that is a woman kisses and kills a man
as the narrator asks, have you ever been kissed by
a woman? Like this credits? And uh, okay. Look the
woman that they have in this as like, what's her name?
Taraan Tella Transla is Tandra Quinn. She is attractive, She
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moves her body into such a way as to be
inhuman in a lot of scenes, and she might be
the best part of this movie, but you ruin the
fact that like she just murders people right at the
beginning of the movie rather than kind of like trying
to string out some sort of mystery right away. And
then it goes into credits, and you have the narration
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over that pre credits thing. It goes into the credits,
and then my notes again for one like, okay, this
is a rare, rare example of when Aaron's notes become
incoherent because the movie is incoherent. You didn't even write
notes through like the first fifteen minutes of the film
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because it was nonsense.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Well, the first thing I have is narrator made no sense.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
No, he makes no sense. And I say, the narrator
bitches about how about humans are dumb and how they're
no better than hexapods, And I immediately got pissed off
because I already I knew that this movie had spiders
in it, and spiders aren't hexapods. They have eight legs.
Goddamn it, they have eight legs. Why can't you get
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a simple thing right? Why don't you just call them
a rachnids not hexapods. Hexpods is wrong, a raknids. Just
use a rachnids. Everyone knows what a raknids.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Are, especially people that would watch this movie at this time.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
God, it just it baffled.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
There was how many how many movies have we done
with the raknids?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I don't know a lot, but Tarantula might be the
best one. I love Tarantula. Anyway. A man and a
woman are lost in the Great Mexican Desert and.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Are picked up by somebody that.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Was looking way prospecting.
Speaker 1 (10:43):
Yeah, I wondered what he was doing because he's in
a in a jeep and he keeps like spying and
following them, and here's it. And I didn't understand, let me,
let me finish this. I didn't understand why it took
him so long when they are walking dragging each other
to pick them up.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Because he doesn't see them, and I think it was
trying to put up some sort of sense of tension
if he will see them. But again there's no sense
of relative location between these two people and where he is.
And then they're already flashing to like random white robed
women like posing on rocks and trying to look menacing.
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So are where is everybody? I don't get? And all
during this the narrator is just shitting on humans and
belittling the characters. It is strange. And here's the thing.
Even at this point, there are movies that are bad
that you can laugh at. Creeping Terror you can laugh
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at it's ridiculous. This is not funny.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I actually think I asked you was this MSTK.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
And it's not. They passed it up because it's just
not it's it's so bad.
Speaker 1 (12:03):
There is nothing that you could because my thought was
that I don't even think you could do it.
Speaker 2 (12:08):
There was a riff tracks done for it. Though there
was a.
Speaker 1 (12:11):
Riff, I would be I am surprised that they could.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
I want to watch the riff tracks version of this
to see how they handled it, because it's it is
really difficult to laugh at. And the only things that
I was laughing at at this point was just how
disconnected everything already felt. And and I tend to go
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into movies without researching a ton of background stuff, and
at this point in watching the movie, I didn't know
that it was like basically two separate movies that were
kind of shoved together, but it already felt that way,
even in my notes, like what's going on these it's
like there's two movies filmed at two separate times, and the.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Well, there's also a third one where you have the
black the black screen.
Speaker 2 (13:04):
There's the narrator talks about how they're exploring the desert
of death, and again I just keep writing down the narrator,
and the narrator continues to mock this these couple as
soon they will be dead things. And okay, come on, man,
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we're like three minutes into the film. You have there's
two people that are clearly in peril. Okay, a man
and a woman. They look injured, right as the narrator,
you should be trying to build up sympathy for these characters, like,
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I hope they get found. If these are our main characters,
and they are, you should be building up sympathy for
them or setting up backstory.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Now here's a question that I'll ask Aaron, and I
know the answer to it. Do you know what any
of the characters' names?
Speaker 2 (14:01):
No, not a single one except for the main villain.
Except for the main villain, And I took notes. Again,
I take notes. I don't know a single character's name
except except Master Faster. No, well, you know a different
one than I do, Fester, Uncle Fester. I constantly wrote
down his name is doctor Aranya. Okay, because it's so weird.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
I have Masterson on my list, and I do have
the Tarantus masters.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Oh okay, never mind. Yeah, there there is a character,
So we know one character each. I know the lead character,
top Build, who is Uncle Fester, Jackie Coogan, that's it.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
And the person that was the great, the great, the
greatest actress in this.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
This Tarantella.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
She didn't speak a word.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Not a word. She was the best because she actually
had screen presence. But again, like, let's go back to this.
I guess the couple are found and brought to Ameera
Exico hospital, and then I say, oh wait, no, it's
not in a hospital. They were taken to an oil company office.
Even though they were suffering from extreme dehydration, you know,
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severe sunburn exposure.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Hospital, they were got.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
Into an oil company office. It's that Amera Exico oil company.
And we're told we're told that they must be from
a missing plane that disappeared however long ago. People are
just making assumptions, right, they don't know who these people are.
They're not checking, they're just guessing. And we get a
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racist stereotype here of a his name is Pepe. I
remember that character because I was offended for everyone. Remember
Pepe Pepe is a racist stereotype, and he's offensive. Anyway, there,
I guess that the guy comes to whoever, whatever character
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that is, I honestly don't know. I honestly don't remember
his name. Even in my notes, I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
I don't have I have man and woman.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Okay, So the guy waiting and pilot and he starts.
He finds out that he's in an oil company office,
and he begs the oil company dude to load up
an oil truck because the only way to deal with
these things out in the desert are to burn them out. Okay, cool,
no problem. I think that that's one of the things
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that got me a little interested. This guy's begging for
an oil company truck to go hose down people in
like diesel fuel or something like.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Okay, okay, wow, didn't we go through this one with
them that that's not a smart move.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
They scatter from fire. He says that there's like an
underground lab on the Mesa, and Pepe is the only
guy that immediately believes him, and he Pepe has to
convince everybody that this guy is telling the truth because
Pepe's seen the underground lab.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
I guess is Pepe Mexican? Or is he he's ache person? Oh?
Speaker 2 (17:06):
I don't know. I don't know, Darlene, I didn't look.
I don't care. Really, he's still a racist stereotype. If
they wrote him that way, he might he actually might be,
like I could look it up here. Hold on, his
name is chris Pin Martin. I'm looking online. Let's see
here he was He was born in Tucson, Arozogna in
(17:30):
eighteen ninety three. Wow, so he was he was around
for a while. Does he have a Hispanic heritage? I
don't know. Maybe maybe, but I'm not gonna make assumptions.
This was his last movie. Wow, okay, this is his
last movie, and he played a racist stereotype. It's a
little sad anyway. He has to convince everyone. So, oh, here,
(17:51):
I have a Masterson decides to go out to the Mace.
I actually do have a character name right in here.
He sees a woman in a white dress climbing rocks.
He's going out to doctor ARODYA. Okay. Masterson is the
guy that acts like an idiot all the way through
the rest of the film, and then he has made
not an idiot in the end. And this is because
the two different movies were made. In one he's like
(18:12):
a psychopath and one he's a victim, which is it's weird. Okay,
so right now he's he's a victim at this part
of the film.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
Well to me, I have him as the villain too.
Speaker 2 (18:24):
He's being brought into a cave with a door, and
the sound the soundtrack I write here, is intensely loud,
and the narrator is talking, often describing everything we see,
thus wasting his words, like there's no point in you
telling us what we're seeing. We're already seeing it. This
(18:46):
is not a novel where you're trying to paint a
picture in someone's mind. We're literally effing seeing it. Stop.
Inside the cave is a laboratory with lots of women
wearing odd hairstyles and makeup. And here's where we both
looked at each other and said, some of this is
actually kind of interesting. Some of the costume choices, right, Yeah,
(19:09):
some of the hairstyles are odd, but not like off putting,
They're just odd, Like, Okay, they're trying to do something here.
I'm trying to give some positivity to this because there
are things that kind of peaked my interest. Doctor Aranya
needs the remote location, and he tries to make some
excuses about why he needs the remote location, but he
(19:32):
has proven all of his theories and produced things. And again,
at this point there's a lot of meaningless babble and
things that are clearly scientifically wrong. So those all caught
my attention. Aranya is conducting an experiment with the pituitary
gland of people.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
With what he calls hexapods.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
With what he caused hexapods. But Rancela's yeah, and the
doctor Doctor Aranya also says that he can telepathically talk
to the resulting creatures, the large the large tarantulas and
the women that I guess are also tarantula's. Yeah, because
(20:21):
uh we we see, we see tarantella that the character
Tandra Quinn, she doesn't talk all the way through this movie,
but she, like I guess she's a tarantula as well.
I don't know. He he has humanoid tarantulas that look
totally human. He says that they are indestructible like tarantula's
(20:45):
because of course tarantulas.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
And in the next Senson, next sentence sentence, he says
that she'll live to be one hundred and twenty or so, Yeah,
and possibly past that.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
So how can you do how do you know?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
How can you know that? And how can you say
at one point indestructible and then yet.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
Because they inherited the indestructibility of tarantula's, folks, I hate
to break it to you, tarantulas are not indestructible. No,
My brothers had a tarantula when I was growing up.
We had to be very delicate with it at times.
It died, by the way, after you know, about ten years.
(21:32):
Oh well, it had a good long life. She had
a good Long Life was it was a female. But
this is where the movie you can tell that this
was filmed later because at this point Masterson freaks out
and he says, you're evil, and I have to stop you.
(21:54):
You're an idiot, Masterson, because why would you start saying
all these awful things surrounded by Doctor Aranya's loyal hench
women and a giant gudnamn tarantula that's hiding behind a
screen that he literally just you just saw it and
you start acting like you are going to kill.
Speaker 1 (22:16):
Him, and the character Tarantula e La Tarantella Tarantella, she
actually injects him with something.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, and then then we get this weird transition where
I guess he loses his mind. I don't know, any experiment.
And again this is because we have to go back
to the original plot of the movie where he's just
kind of like a weird psychopath and he just has
(22:49):
like no emotions and talks really slowly.
Speaker 1 (22:53):
And the masters leaves an asylum.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Yeah, but there gathered two separate plays. It's not like
they stopped filming and then resumed filming later on with
the same plot to try to like finish the movie.
They just inserted weird shit into it that clearly is
a break. Now at this point in the movie, where
(23:17):
maybe it's a seventy minute ish movie, okay, we're about
fifteen minutes in the rest of the movie. I have
half a page of notes because it is like it's
all meaningless. And at one point in the movie, since
we were watching this on YouTube, I turned it up
(23:38):
to one and a half time speed and it felt
like it was better paced but still dragging slow. That
shocked me.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
And there is a face that gets thrown up by
itself with another flash of another person I've never seen
him in the movie, the otherwise, the old the old
guy that looks like forty or something I be that
(24:10):
would have been worn out by.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Let's let's let's get back to what few notes I have.
At this point, we have a scene in a cantina
with lots of dancing and people, and Masterson approaches an
older man and a young blonde woman who has already
said she thinks the cantena is a junkie pate place
and filled.
Speaker 1 (24:31):
With filth, and I'm like, out loud in the place, yeah,
you're being what's really funny is, oh, we'll get we'll
get you this our best table Yeah, and he shoes
off of the locals and flips over the tablecloth and
(24:52):
it's still staying.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Yeah, it's still stayed. That was cute. Now this is
from the original film. This is from This is a
original footage.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
I have something to say that's good about this one. Okay,
the music there was played by three people and it
was decent.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
But that's just from the soundtrack. It's still the same
soundtrack that Edwood took. Yeah, it's fine. It looks good.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
And they made the bar look smoky. Yeah, and it
made me question whether they just walked into a very
sleeamy bar or took it over.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
It was well lit, it was well lit. There wasn't
fighting going on. It seemed like people were actually just
enjoying themselves. There were women there on their own that
weren't prostitutes, so like women felt safe to be there
on their own. And there was female dancing that was
not erotic because Tarantula woman comes out and starts kind
(25:48):
of like doing this weird Italian spider dance. It's a
real thing, by the way, and Masterson just shoots her. Now,
mind you again, this is this is the original footage
where she was intended to just be the victim of
Masterson because he was a sociopath mass murderer, like a
(26:09):
serial killer kind of person. But we know from the
secondary footage that she's indestructible. But there's no reason for
her to be dancing there as a tarantula woman when
none of the other women from there the experiment are
coming there. Why is she there dancing when she's kind
of like a monster.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
I didn't understand that either. I don't know, but I
will say that was pretty nice.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
Masterson also quotes the Bible all the way through this
at this point, is that what he's doing, he's quoting
the Bible. He's quoting the Bible. He pulls a gun, shoots,
shoots tarantul woman. He seems to be brainwashed at this point. Again,
this is before I read that it was two separate movies, Like,
why is he brainwashed? Why did he just shoot the
assistant of doctor Ranya? If he has been brainwashed by
(26:57):
doctor Iranya, that doesn't make sense because if she is
now here undercover for doctor Ranya, everyone just sees her
get up from redone footage to the second footage that
they shot. She just kind of gets up and leaves,
and everyone's like, wow, that's weird.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
This movie kind of reminds me of the little game
you used to do of of storytelling. You'd only get
one person would start a paragraph, then the next person
would only get that paragraph. And then you were supposed
to write a paragraph it's and then you the next
person would only get that Yeah.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
It was the It's kind of like the telephone game,
except the story that you write is completely nonsensical.
Speaker 1 (27:44):
Well, every person in the room only gets the previous
yeah paragraph, And that's what it feels like. This is
what with It was to teach us that we had
to plan out storytelling notes.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Heresay, everyone gets in a plane. The movie is increasingly disjointed.
I don't understand what's really going on. The plane crashes,
blonde woman smokes, they're on a lost mesa. How do
you know you're on a lost mesa if you don't
know where you crashed? And how is it lost if
you're there and know about it.
Speaker 1 (28:22):
She is supposed to be a fiance of someone else,
and then she sits there and flirts with the pilot. Yeah,
and the pilot and her are the ones that come
out in the.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
End, there's this scene of darkness where no one can
see anything. The pilot fires a single flare, but multiple
fireworks explode in the sky.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
I missed that.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, yeah, I don't have any food and he says,
not even a k rash and I'm like, okay, I
smiled at that.
Speaker 1 (28:53):
Good for you. This is the original film. Okay, you
can tell the original film from the rest of.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
It, because Masterson is acting like an idiot and a sociopath.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
And we have the worst romance scene that comes.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Up insistent guitar music. They have to go out exploring
for food with only a pen light for illumination. What
else do we have? The tarantula woman stalks them. One
of the guys is fatally attacked. It's so dark. They
have to hold each other's hands, but we can see
(29:30):
them just fine because it's just all a well lit set.
But they're all holding hands and walking around and freaking
out about things touching them.
Speaker 1 (29:39):
Oh my god, one of them gets killed, right, Oh no,
woman stalks them.
Speaker 2 (29:45):
Wander wander, wander, pointless wander. These are like my notes,
It's just wandering, wandering, wandering, pointless wander. This movie is
damn near unwatchable in my Oh, two characters kiss, which
is the blonde woman, I guess the pilot.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
Oh, and that is the worst Roman Matt scenes I
remember nowhere. Okay, first thing they do, the black dialogue,
the black screen, the phantom zone they do, you've got
the original film, and then you go to phantom zone
with the girl. Then you go back to original stand
(30:19):
and then.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
It's phantom zone with him because.
Speaker 1 (30:23):
You know, a sudden the next thing you have, she's
like I said, she is supposed to be a fiance
to the one of the guys that the guy.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Yeah, and sure.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Then they go into this kissing passionately and you're like,
where did this come out of? And I think that's
what you said.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
Yeah, where did this come from? I don't know? And
then like Wu. There's a guy named Wu in this.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
He's the her fiance's uh man servant. I don't know
who he is, but he ends up being connected to
then gets killed.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
He gets killed because the girls attack him, and then
giant tarantule attack and capture everybody, and then it's kind
of explained that Masterson lost his mind and Ranya decides
to restore his mind because I guess they want to
have new footage of him, and they didn't get all
the footage of the original plot done. Master Sin then
(31:29):
acts crazy and sets the lab on fire. Now we
return to the start of the movie, the end, and
I honestly could care less how it really ended. It's
that it was.
Speaker 1 (31:39):
It was discussing what happened, because it's it's the end
of the movie that began with the movie. After having
a weird scene in the front part.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Again again, I'm gonna say again, this did not make
me angry. I was baffled more than angry. The the
prop of movies that we watched early in Earth Versus
Soup episodes made me angry how inane and counterintuitive that
they were, because like when you're making a propaganda film,
(32:12):
you're supposed to be saying a specific thing, like pro America,
but each one of those things had like odd were
oddly anti American and anti democracy. And that's what really
made me mad.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Well, it was what it was quite racist. This movie
was quite racist to racist. There was the Mexican that
that was. Then there was how they treated the the
Asian guy.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Woo Woo, Yeah that's his name, Wou. I guess I
do remember another character, even though I don't even have
it down in my notes. This didn't make me angry.
Speaker 1 (32:53):
I was more dribbling.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
Yeah, I was just confused constantly of why this movie
is and bored is this movie?
Speaker 1 (33:03):
If you know, if this wasn't so confusing, it would
be so boring?
Speaker 2 (33:09):
No, I think I think it is why it's so
boring because you realize that your confusion is never going
to be solved, It's just going to continue. And that's
where your brain shuts off. You can't even laugh at
it because there's note enough consistency in the movie to
make a joke. That's the problem. Like we again, we
(33:31):
have watched movies where it's so bad we can sit
there and laugh at it. Creeping Terror, you hate Creeping Terror.
It might be your worst movie that we have watched,
your least favorite.
Speaker 1 (33:41):
Now this one is?
Speaker 2 (33:42):
This one is because Creeping Terror is eminently rewatchable compared
to this. Because you could laugh at Creeping Terror, you
could sit there and joke around about it and say, okay,
yeah they had problems with it.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Was more memorable, much more memorable.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
I'm not gonna remember a single thing about this except
the fact that, like there's the the Trantula woman that
dances in it, and that it's completely not nonsensical. Uh,
And well, I can't say that I'm not gonna not
remember anything, because I probably will. I remember most of
the films that we deal with.
Speaker 1 (34:14):
But Aaron kept on talking taking off the closed captions,
and I was snickering.
Speaker 2 (34:20):
About that because the close captions were so different. I
don't know, it's so hard to describe. It's so hard
to describe this movie incoherent, in an in a coherent way,
because it's not. It is not.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
And what what?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
What works? What works? Let's stop, let's stop for a second.
What works? There are things at work.
Speaker 1 (34:46):
The dance scene with the Tarantella, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Doing like an actual like Italian dance. That was nice.
I'll say. Some of the costuming for the girls nice, right.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
The inter the the scene was interesting of the bar, restaurant,
Smokey Dive, Southwestern dive. That scene by itself it was fine.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
Yeah, But everything else was just sort of shoved into shoved.
Speaker 1 (35:21):
Into everything, and the narration did not work.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
I see. I wouldn't even say that that one scene
worked because in order for a scene to work, in
my mind, I appreciate and respect your opinion on that,
by the way, but I'm going to disagree.
Speaker 1 (35:34):
If you took it and made it a volve built.
Speaker 2 (35:37):
Vaudeville scene scene, it would work. I don't. I disagree
because but hear me out, hear me out. This is
not me trying to like disregard your opinion. I feel
that it can't work as a scene because in context
to the greater overall, it does not fit. And you
(35:59):
have to have a beginning, like why all this is
happening to come into the scene, because it's not like
an opening scene.
Speaker 1 (36:06):
No, but I'd say if you took just that scene
out and not have anything front and back and it
was just you were writing on just as a scene,
it had it kept your attention.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Okay, it kept my attention.
Speaker 1 (36:26):
Yes, I'll agree the characters you went, she's a total's
a bitch, she's a bit. He's a wealthy person that
she's just snared.
Speaker 2 (36:38):
Yeah, but she's not, remember but she is. Why are
they there?
Speaker 1 (36:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
Why does Masterson shoot the woman?
Speaker 1 (36:51):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:53):
It does not work as a scene.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
It works as a scene, not as a part of
the story.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Okay, I mean if you had. I'll let you have
your opinion. I'm okay with that. I don't think there's
a single scene in this movie that could be taken
by itself to say that it's even rises to like,
let's say, a bad level at the best. At the best,
(37:20):
it's very bad.
Speaker 1 (37:21):
Like the one thing that I actually wrote notes on, okay,
besides a little short things that says the couple was
picked up, I master leave, Masterson leaves the asylum. And
who's the guy that I didn't get? The guy that
kept on He said he was the nurse. Whatever happened to.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
Him, I don't know. It didn't matter. Obviously, it obviously
didn't matter. When my notes are so disjointed that I'm
writing down that the movie does not make sense. I
don't care about characters. I don't understand motivation. I don't
understand why people are saying what they're saying. Come on,
(38:05):
I mean, fine, there's reasons why the movie is this way.
No one got along with the original director of producers.
It was it ran out of money. They stopped filming.
A different set of people came in and tried to
get everyone back involved with it to film completely new
scenes that had nothing to do with the originals and
(38:26):
black screen them put him in the phantom zone, but
like mashing him together. Everything else about this movie besides
to me, everything except the women's costumes, arguably Tandra Quinn
doing that, Oh no, for sure, Tandra Quinn doing the
Italian dance.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
To me, this word this is like going to a
secondhand store, like a salvation, a salvation, okay, getting five
boxes of puzzles and trying to put it all and
putting only half of them in one box each and
(39:10):
then trying to put it together.
Speaker 2 (39:12):
Yeah, like you have like four Thomas Kinkaid paintings that
are puzzles and it's all mixing.
Speaker 1 (39:18):
You know, they're missing pieces.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
You know they're missing pieces. They're all by the same
they all tend to have the same idea in general,
but they're all different puzzle and you can't put it
together very well. It does not make a coherent picture.
Speaker 1 (39:34):
That is this movie.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
That is this movie. I can't say anything else about it. Really,
Everything fails in this movie except to me the dance,
the costume of the women and the dancing. That's it out. Clearly,
we don't recommend it because it just it isn't even funny.
Speaker 1 (39:56):
It's it's a one.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
W Wow, this is a one. I don't I honestly
don't know if I.
Speaker 1 (40:04):
Can go that far. You can go with a one
and a half, maybe two.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
I can't do it too. It has to be a
one and a half. This is almost the definition of
this is no longer a movie. This is this is
this is just a very bad alcohol induced nightmare that
(40:27):
really doesn't isn't a nightmare. No, it's just like a hallucination,
like what what? Nothing is really piecing together? This isn't
a movie. This isn't a movie. I will agree with
that it fails at being a movie. I can watch it.
There is dialogue, there are characters, There are middle school
(40:50):
stage productions, better well, more well produced.
Speaker 1 (40:55):
The acting wasn't even that great.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
No, so I think we're I don't want to I
don't want to be labor this movie anymore. I'm Aaron,
I'm Darlene. Good evening, keep watching the Skies. At no
point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close
to anything that could be considered a rational thought.
Speaker 3 (41:18):
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