Loose Cannon - A Goofy Movie (1995) & An Extremely Goofy Movie (2000) Double Feature Discussion - ThisWeekInGeek

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Yum yum. It's time for a tasty and refreshing snack.

Speaker 2 (00:21):
You know what I can do with that? I can
do without the people in the video store, which ones
all of them. They never rent quality flecks. They always
pick the most intellectually devoid movie on the racks, and
no on with the show.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Here comes one of Disney's Goofy is stars in his
first bull lead animated movie, A Goofy Movie. It's summer
and Goofy sun Mass.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
I'll uh call you later, Ohie, But Goofy has other ideas.
We're going fishing. We'll spend some real quality time together.
I think we're gonna be sick. He's a son going
off the comic going already see.

Speaker 4 (01:01):
It good by my little college.

Speaker 1 (01:03):
Milliam and going for the extreme adventure until Mixy just
a yearning for some learning.

Speaker 5 (01:17):
Hey guys, what's going on? You are listening to this
week in geek dot Nets Loose Cannon. I am your host,
Mike the Birdman, and here at the Twig Video Store,
it is time to talk some Disney. Last time on
the show, we had a fantastic time talking about the
three Aladdin features. Were briefly mentioning the live action remake,
and in today's show, I welcome two more film affectionados

(01:41):
to louse Cannon.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
I welcome my good friend from the state of New Jersey.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
And from this anime and fellow.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Gwelfite and political reporter, Adam A.

Speaker 6 (01:51):
Donaldson.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
So, guys, it is good to be back here on
twigs Loose Cannon.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
For those of you that may be joining us for
the first time, this is the show where we talk
about big budget movies, smaller releases, and things that are
that have been put the screen that we enjoy, sometimes
hate and sometimes wonder why. But David a couple of
weeks ago, had suggested we start covering a few more
Disney films, as that's a fairly big gap in my filmography.

(02:19):
And it's been a real joy to go back and
watch some of these films, and this is one I'm
so glad we're getting a chance to talk about. We're
gonna be talking about two movies today with a mention
of a recent documentary that got released. We're gonna be
talking about a goofy movie and an extremely goofy movie

(02:40):
along with the documentary not just a goof And these
are some of my favorite childhood movies.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Definitely the first.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
One extremely Goofy movie, maybe not as much, but we'll
get to that. So, as we most often do here
on the show, we kind of talk about our history
with these and I'll go first, just to give you
guys a chance to warm up. So I grew up
as a Disney Afternoon kid for sure. I was in
the era of Ducktails, Dark Wing, Duck Tailspin and goof Troop.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
And goof Troop was the show that really.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
Kind of spoke to me as a young man, obviously,
having Goofy and his son Max take place in the
town of Spoonerville with his friend PJ and Pistol.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
I can't remember the name of Pete's wife.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
It's gonna come to me at some point in this episode, he'd.

Speaker 4 (03:34):
Have a.

Speaker 5 (03:36):
Yeah, she was the redhead, which Goofy's has a real
thing for redheads, I've noticed. But yeah, So it kind
of followed Max when he was like, probably about ten
years old, maybe eleven at the most. A Goofy movie
advances the storyline a couple of years when he's a teenager.
And when I was a kid, I saw this in

(03:58):
I want to say this was the summer of ninety.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Five, right, camp yep, summer ninety five.

Speaker 5 (04:03):
Yeah, so summer ninety five, I'm just getting ready to
go into high school at this time, I'm probably yeah,
I think I'm going. I'm either finishing. I'm either starting
or finishing Grade eight. I can't remember because I know
I was in high school in ninety six, so my
memory is a little cloudy. But I remember going to
see this at our small local cinemas, which was Owen
Sound Galaxy Cinema's three. At that time, we only had

(04:26):
three screens, and I was super stoked for this, like
I get to see Goofy on the big screen.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
This is gonna be awesome.

Speaker 5 (04:34):
It's gonna be a continuation of goof Troop neat like
I was really hoping for a dark Wayne Duck movie.

Speaker 1 (04:39):
Didn't get it.

Speaker 5 (04:40):
I was somewhat disappointed by the Duck Tails movie. It
didn't live up to my expectations. So, hey, this is
gonna be really cool going there, and I think the
theater was about half full because I used to go
on Saturday afternoons for like the five dollars matinee at
the time.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
I miss those times.

Speaker 5 (05:01):
And I remember the soundtrack to this movie just taking me.
And at this time, Pauli Shore was still reasonably hot,
coming off of in Sino Man and Son in Law
and Jury Duty. In all those movies, he was that
like MTV personality that was everywhere. So he played Bobby
in this and that was pretty cool for me. But

(05:23):
it was the music that really took me to this.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
And then to kind of get a little bit personal.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
This is a movie about, you know, a father and
son bonding, something that I never had growing up. In fact,
for those of you that have followed my journey here
on the show since two thousand and seven, I didn't
know who my real father was up until the pandemic.
I didn't know my father's name was Dave, probably about
until twenty twenty two is when I found out, or

(05:51):
twenty twenty three.

Speaker 1 (05:52):
Either way, very recent memory.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
So I never had a chance to go fishing with
my dad or go on vacation or whatever, and anytime
I did a good to go on vacation with my parents.
Trauma the movie, but this was something that was so
special to me. So I remember seeing this in theater
that I said, loving it when it came out on VHS.
It was a constant rental could never find the soundtrack

(06:16):
to buy. But when I started getting into internet music,
when like you could download stuff, I do remember actively
seeking this out. I actually was going through old hard
drives because I'm very good at backing up data, and
I found an old hard drive a couple of years ago.
I found my original MP three's from way back in

(06:39):
the day, from like the nineties when that was like
when the codec was still super new. And I still
found my original eye to I MP three file, which
was very cool. But yeah, this was such a childhood
thing for me. I remember loving the new character designs,
like having Max aged up to high school. I thought
was great. Roxanne every I felt funny in places, Yeah,

(07:07):
but it was. It was a weird, innocent crush to me,
Like I I very much related to that, and I
kind of wonder if that's kind of what led to
my boldness when it came to just hey, I like,
you want to go out and I don't know I would.
I very much attribute to that. And then I also
learned today that the voice of Roxanne's friend was Jenna

(07:28):
van Oi from Blossom. I didn't know that, which was
kind of cool. And yeah, like this was just one
of those things I did not expect to stick with
me all these years later. So I'm gonna throw it
to Adam. What's your history with this? Because you and
I are pretty close in age.

Speaker 6 (07:46):
I'll say that Stacy, who is Roxane's friend. It's pretty
blossom coated with the little pink sunglasses and the hat.
But uh, I yeah, I remember the group the goof
Troop TV. Yeah, it was called goof Troop. Yeah, I
remember where I was. I liked this in in the
Afternoon stuff too. Goof Troop was weird anomaly because it
was like the first one that wasn't kind of blatantly

(08:07):
adventure like, like a part of the adventure adventure action
adventure genre. Tailspin had been Dark Point Duck as you said,
Duck Tails, Rescue Rangers, those are all been like adventure shows.
But goof Troop was like a kind of a genuine Oh,
there was an adventure aspects to it, but there was
like genuine sit caught me stuff because it was about
like two families living next door to each other in suburbia,

(08:30):
Spooner pill. It's also I forgot it was clear they
lived in Spoonerville, which seems sounds a bit odd saying
it out loud now, but I remember watching a Goofy movie.
I think I watched it on video. I didn't go
see it at the cinema, but it is I remember
enjoying it. I was probably feeling a bit too old

(08:51):
for goof Troop at this point or Goofy movies at
this point, but I remember enjoying it, and you know,
rewatching it here, I felt a lot of the same things.
I felt the father son relationship that was really well done.
The typical like early teen things like thinking your parents

(09:15):
are uncool, and wanting to look like a big shot
to what the girl you like, and wanting to make
a good impression with like friends, and not wanting to
be a loser at school. Like all of that clicks.
There's a real genuineness to the story and to the
characters that I think is still effective. It's fascinating to
me how this. I mean, you can very easily see

(09:37):
this as a piece of fine density marketing. They have
a well known character, Goofy, they had a successful property,
goof Troop. Just makes sense to turn it into a movie,
and it could have just easily been something like they
cashed in, But there is real sentiment to this. There
is real emotion to this, and I think although I

(09:57):
hadn't watched it until today, I hadn't watched this since
I think probably nineteen ninety five ninety six, I understand
the affection for it, and I think even I have
some affection for it. Although goof the Goofy movie wasn't
something necessarily a meantal lot to me, but it is.
It is good, good solid animation, storytelling, and it was

(10:22):
nice for visiting it. I have to say, and Ken,
what about you, homie?

Speaker 4 (10:28):
So I again, I'm a ninety two baby, So I
didn't see this till it was like so like ninety
seven ninety eight, so it was like five ish four
or five years old. And it's weird because I always
I could always just my mom could just pop in

(10:51):
a VHS and I would sit there and be the
perfect baby and just watch the picture or whatever, like
no joking back when Lion King came out, she would say,
I could just pop Lion King in and that would
be an hour and a half of me just being

(11:11):
the perfect child and just watching the movie. But this
this was a regular rerun in terms of replaying it
multiple times on VHS. I believe somewhere in the recesses
of the basement there is a VHS copy of this

(11:34):
movie sitting around somewhere, and it is it just resonates.
It resonates because you you resonated as a kid, but
then rewatching this as an adult, you're just like, oh,
I see Goofy's perspective. Also, fuck that principle. That principle

(11:58):
is terrible.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yeah, a bit of an overreaction, to say the least.

Speaker 6 (12:03):
There are bad principles like that, Yeah, like there like that,
there are principles who just completely overreact.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
Yeah, it's but like you get it from Goofy's perspective
now as an adult. And I think that's why this
movie has held on for so long, especially for my generation,
because it just like, oh, I get it as an

(12:34):
a as a kid, but then you're watching it as
an adult, it's like, oh, I get it even more.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
One of the things.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
And yeah, no that that that's all I have to
say it. And going into touching on the documentary that
came out this year, the director, that's exactly what he wanted,
and he got what he wanted. It's just it took

(13:08):
a while to resonate with people.

Speaker 7 (13:10):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (13:11):
Like when I found out that this movie was a
commercial and critical failure. That sunk my heart to find out,
because like obviously, as children were not exactly tuned into
the trades. Although I remember saying during the Aladdin episode,
I do remember watching Entertainment Tonight a fair chunk when
I was a kid, because it was on like basically

(13:34):
up here in Canada, or at least where I lived,
we only had access to like three or four channels
at that times.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
I was over the air until I moved out on.

Speaker 5 (13:41):
My own, and Entertainment Tonight was on at like seven
or seven thirty, and it would be to whatever. I
don't know, CBS Sitcom would be on at like eight
o'clock on Global. But that's how I learned a lot
of entertainment stuff. That's how I kept up. Like, that's
how I knew jeffre Katzenberg was fired this time. I
knew names like Michael Eisner and stuff like that. Again,

(14:03):
what fourteen year old kid fucking knows this? I did,
because I'm that weirdo.

Speaker 6 (14:08):
I did too.

Speaker 5 (14:09):
I was a Disney kid, so I knew that it's
so weird that we just have this weird knowledge do
like osmosis, but.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
It was something.

Speaker 5 (14:20):
To really behold to know that this was considered a
cult classic by so many of us. And I just
remember having just such a genuine love for this and
going back to rewatch it today because this is the
first time I've went back to rewatch it since I
was in the hospital for my amputation back in twenty seventeen,

(14:41):
and I just remember just getting all.

Speaker 1 (14:43):
The warm feelings again.

Speaker 5 (14:45):
And just like I said, the connection to realizing what
could have been a stupid character from the nineteen thirties
that was always getting into pratt falls or situations where
you know, something goes wrong, like there's the very famous
short rego skiing or whatever. You know, this could have
been something well Goofy, and they gave Goofy a real emotional,

(15:09):
relatable core and I like that. I mean, there's always
considered the extended lore of like, well.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
What happened to Goofy's wife? Why is he a single father?
You know?

Speaker 5 (15:19):
And that's something in the nineties that I kind of liked.
I mean, it never worked with like say quack Pack,
where you know, their idea of aging up Huey Dewey
and Louie was to give them hoodies and have them
lean against things like Okay, fine, I guess sure, But
here they tried something a little bit different. And having
Max and having the story mostly told from Max's perspective

(15:43):
was something that again I just I really got having
that core group of friends that would help you do anything,
and I related a lot to that as a kid.
I mean, I'm sure everybody out there has their own
version of their their version of rock sane, and I
think that's why I connected so well to that. I mean,

(16:04):
I can think of about three or four people growing
up who would have fit that bill, like that that
girl that liked you but you weren't too sure, you
were a little unsure to talk to. But you know,
eventually you're gonna do something to impress them. More often
than not, you're gonna fall flat on your face. But
the fact that you tried is, you know, character defining

(16:25):
for you. Hopefully it's a good memory. Not everybody has that,
but watching it today and watching how sincerely Goofy wanted
to connect with Max, and I had a thought during
all this, and obviously not everybody at that age has
that emotional intelligence to do something like this, and two

(16:45):
Max could have said with Goofy like okay, look, you
want to go on vacation. Okay, cool, Fine, you want
to go to Lake Destiny? Okay, fine, what if let's
make you did your version with your father? I get that,
that's great, Let's make this our vacation. And obviously Max
has changed the map when he does his own thing,

(17:06):
So a little bit of communication, a little bit of
a heart to heart would have gone a long way.
But they needed the conflict to really understand each other.
And that's something that I really liked, because I can
tell you from my own personal experience. Did me and
my parents have that emotional intelligence with each other? It
would happen the odd time, but it was never the norm.

(17:28):
It wasn't until I became much older and started having
adult relationships, when I started having my first girlfriend and
you know, really hawking with a person as a person,
I really developed those interpersonal skills that really high emotional
intelligence to navigate people that I really started to get like, Okay,
you'd be surprised what you can get with a kind

(17:50):
word and just being sincere as opposed to being, you know,
a sneaky little well goof but yeah, there's just something
about this that I really liked because, like I said,
it spoke to me on a level I didn't expect to.

Speaker 1 (18:03):
And then to go back to the music for this.

Speaker 5 (18:06):
The power Line character, I found conflicting reports that he
was based on Bobby Brown, Michael Jackson, Prince. I even
read something today on like a Disney Wiki saying they
based his stage presence on David Bowie and all this stuff.
I'm like, all right, that's interesting, and I can see
all those influences, all of them. Yeah, and I was like,

(18:32):
this is weird, Like just didn't know that Max is
into this, Like pop star is very much like an
eighties thing because like every kid knew Michael Jackson, everybody
knew the like I don't know, I'm trying to I
guess maybe maybe Bono, maybe Sting, maybe Bruce Springsteen's like
people you could name who the people were, but bands

(18:53):
were different, Like can you name all the members of
I don't know, Mega Death or Slayer or Metallica. Maybe
Metallica maybe, but you know Madonna, you know all these
pop stars who are iconic in their own things. So
just to see Max get into an individual I thought
was kind of cool because like I was a Michael
Jackson kid growing up, I was a weird al kid.

(19:15):
I liked individuals more than I like bands, which is
sort of my thing because I grew up very isolated
in that regard musically. And that's something else too to
talk about the music for this again, this was different
than The Little Mermaid or Aladdin. This music was contemporary
in a way that you could hear this something that

(19:38):
sounded like this on the radio and it wouldn't have
appeared too too outlandish. I mean, yes, we're in the
air of like rock and grunge and all that shit,
But there were still pop stars at this time, like
ninety five, I don't know, help me out here, Adam
maybe Mariah Carey. Yeah, like people like that were still

(20:01):
making very popular music. So to have a male pop star,
I mean Backstreet Boys were not too long behind all this,
and like and Sank and all that. Yeah, so we
were starting to come into the male pop star again
because you know, Michael Jackson was starting to fall from grace.
I think at this time Michael Jackson Dangerous might have
been out maybe a year of.

Speaker 6 (20:21):
Weird period between runge and and the bubblegum pop of
like the boy bands and Britney Spears and all that,
where there was like this weird transition period where like
Oasis came up during this period and Mariah and.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
Yeah, it's it's all the weird little thing. It's the
It is a very transitional period, which is why a
lot of it feels a lot of the music in
this feels a little more eighties ish more than it
is nineties. But at the same time, it like that

(20:57):
was kind of the popular music at the time.

Speaker 5 (21:01):
Yeah, and it's also it's also kind of timeless because
like you listen to this today and it's still it
still slaps. Actually, there's a guy on YouTube he does
like these mashups and I can't I think his name
is called Dimitri Bochamp or something, and he does he's likely, yeah.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
Most likely. I follow him on Instagram or something.

Speaker 5 (21:25):
Yeah, he does these mashups. And how I came to
know him was he'll put these little Instagram or Facebook
shorts up and it'll start as you might be a
when you find out the bride and groom or fans
of Final Fantasy, and you'll play this wedding music and
then it transitions into the final Fantasy Battle music, and
then he dresses up as like a male Tifa, like

(21:47):
a all right, that's kind of cool. And then I
started going back through his music and he did like
Eminem meets Danny Phantom, which is a fucking slap.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
I must say, yeah.

Speaker 5 (21:58):
And then he does an Eye to I thing where
him and a bunch of cos players do a flash
dance in like the middle of New York and it's
really well choreographed. And again, it's just amazing how people
are rediscovering this now. Like I found out from the documentary,

(22:18):
they're not just a goof they're talking about They showed
a screening of Goofy movie at d twenty three. Yeah
that was that was ten years ago for the end
yeah three Yeah, so smallest room, not even advertised really
on the panel. They weren't expecting people over a thousand people.
They had to turn away over like a thousand people.

Speaker 4 (22:40):
They filled up the room.

Speaker 1 (22:42):
Yeah, like that's insane.

Speaker 5 (22:44):
I remember even Jonathan Young, who's a very popular YouTube performer,
when I was at a convention a couple of years ago,
or this would have been about two thousand and sixteen,
maybe seventeen he came to con Bravo, which was held
in Hamilton, and he did a power Line concert, which
was really fucking cool. There's a friend of mine on

(23:05):
the goof Troop Subred I'm not going to out them
right now, but they are a power Line cosplayer, and
it's amazing to see all these people just talking about
this in the social media space. I mean, obviously us
included in that now, because like, this movie felt severely underrated, but.

Speaker 1 (23:24):
The people who loved it loved it.

Speaker 5 (23:26):
But it felt like it's really getting rediscovered in the
last five to ten years. People are really talking about it.
I remember when I first got Spotify. In my car,
I put on the Goofy movie soundtrack and my wife Blair,
this is one of her favorites. I'm like, really, She's
like yeah, Like, first off, I knew I married you

(23:47):
for a reason, but number two, that's awesome. Like we're
singing stand Out and I do I belting it out
in the car.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
We're getting some looks. But it's totally astounding just see
this and seeing so many people just express their love
for this.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
Even forces that you can't reverse enjoying, like culture that matters,
Like who would have guessed in nineteen ninety five, twenty
years afterwards you could pack house and have standing remontely
to watch Goofy Movie, which is you know this thing
I was dropped and I don't know, at some point

(24:25):
in nineteen ninety five, like they probably thought it would
make money and.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
It was, it was, it was a it was a
pet project of Katzenberg, and then when Jeffrey left they
kind of just.

Speaker 6 (24:37):
Right, Yeah, when with one of those things that happens
when you know, one megalo making runs a studio and
his whims and he's gone and you can just do
whatever you want. But yeah, it but that that's what
it makes me think is that you cannot reverse engineer
these things. These things have a life of their own.
And this is a great thing about art is you

(24:58):
don't know what I can I remember who said it,
but I heard it mentioned the other day. Only one
person gets to decide what is a hit, and that
is the audience. And Goofy movie is an example of that.

Speaker 5 (25:13):
Yeah, Like is just the fact that it has such
a culture around it. Recently, I had a friend of
mine go to Disney World in Orlando, and all over
the stores there is thirtieth anniversary merch So I got
a Max and Rockxane.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
Pin because they really because they realized after that D
twenty three.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
Oh shit, yeah, like let's make some money here. Like
lounge Fly has this astounding range of merchandise. I bought
my wife a lounge Fly purse for our wedding anniversary
in July. I'm not even kidding. Right now, I'm looking
at tattoo designs. I love Goofy movie, and I'm thinking,

(25:56):
would it be weird to get a Goofy movie tattoo?

Speaker 1 (25:58):
So I type that in the reddit.

Speaker 5 (26:00):
There are so many examples of like Max tattoos, Roxanne tattoos,
power Line tattoos.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
People have it mixed into Disney sleeves and everything.

Speaker 5 (26:12):
And while I've got stuff like my like My Little
Pony and Pokemon and Mass Effect and Dungeons and Dragons
and Final Fantasy, a Disney one seems like the next
logical step into doing something kind of fun and something
kind of innocent. So maybe later on this year I
will get the Goofy and Max tattoo or h and

(26:32):
rox Ane tat I'm still stopping around ideas in my head,
so we'll wait and see what happens with that?

Speaker 1 (26:38):
So I guess any closing words on.

Speaker 6 (26:40):
A goofy movie, well, I'll go and just like, there
are bits of this that I like it thematically. You know,
there's definitely a running a bit about you know, others
sharing things that matter with their sons, and that is
a form of both nostalgia and tradition. That's that's like
over the head stuff. There is like I found like

(27:04):
genuine laughs in this too, like when they encounter Bigfoot
and like bigfoots like taunting them like a serial killer
on Criminal Minds. Almost it's it's like that's genuinely it's
genuinely funny. But it's it's not mean, it's just a
little off. It's it's unusual. And I didn't know this
was directed by It's very very trying to avoid saying that.

(27:29):
I noted that this was also directed by Kevin Lima,
who went on to do Enchanted, which was another movie
that in different hands would have been just like over
the top and silly and and to snide for its
own good. But that's another movie that sort of gets
the balance right of emotionality and with you know, being

(27:51):
entertaining and being a send up of the whole Disney
princess genre. So I find this a very interesting artifact.
I guess of the Kevin Lima project that this is
somebody who really knew what he was doing. I was
interested to see that. Also, John Hughes was an inspiration
because this is very John Hughes Codd. This is very

(28:11):
much a case of like heans feeling like adults don't
understand them and adults feeling like they don't understand teens,
and and how both sides try to, uh try to
negotiate a uh that they're changing selves in a changing world.
It's again, it's it's it's much smarter than you would think.

Speaker 7 (28:35):
Hm.

Speaker 1 (28:36):
So I mean, yeah, sorry, can go ahead.

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yeah, And this is there is also a dude that
started right like when he started at Disney. He started
during the as we all like to call it, but
eventually he ended up kind of leaving Disney for a
while and then coming back and he would go and

(29:04):
and he's primarily now doing on and off storyboard artists work.
And he's gone and mostly with friends of his because
you can tell given the fact that, uh, some of
the stuff he's done secondhand are from people that are

(29:25):
ex Disney artists going to other students, like the entire
He's the storyboard artist on Ron's Gone Wrong, which was
an entirely that was entirely ex Disney. People that left
made their own studio, got bought out by Fox, and

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then Fox got bought out by Disney.

Speaker 6 (29:52):
They'll get you back eventually.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Yeah, it's just cruel irony. But overall, this really this
sticks with me. And oddly enough, I didn't realize he
was the director of Tarzan, and that's another one that
connects really deeply with me, even as an adult.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
That's what I've never seen, but I knew the Phil
Collins songs that was played endlessly where I grew.

Speaker 4 (30:21):
What's hilarious is, for some reason, the Phil Collins music
actually works in the movie, And when they tried to
do it again with Brother Bear, it failed miserably.

Speaker 5 (30:33):
Oh yeah, which I've never seen. B I think I've
maybe seen twenty minutes of Brother Bear, but Tarzan I've
actually never seen. I do remember the McDonald's happy Meal
being everywhere.

Speaker 4 (30:44):
Tarzan has probably one of the top five most gruesome
deaths of a villain ever.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Well, now I'm intrigued. So the second movie We're.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
Gonna talk About Tonight is an extremely goofy me which
came out a couple of years later.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
This one, I think went direct to video for a mistake.

Speaker 5 (31:05):
Oh yeah, it's not that it's bad, although I was
looking at some of the voice casts for this. You
get Brad Garrett from Everybody Loves Raymond. You get the
girl who plays Miss Mabel or Marple whatever. Finally Marple
Miss Marple, that's Lilith Crane from Cheers. I did not

(31:25):
realize that. I'm like, wow, didn't see that coming. You
get no mention of Roxanne, which again I did some
digging on this, and allegedly from what I've heard from
an interview and an ama on Reddit, the reason they
didn't bring back Rocks is they didn't want to draw
her hair, which is tragic in so many ways, but

(31:49):
there is a happy ending to this. There was an
episode of House of Mouse where Max and Roxanne do
go out on a date, so head Cannon, they did
manage to get together after college.

Speaker 4 (32:01):
Also, also, the the bray Girl in the Cafe is
a Vicky Lewis who is a dep flow from Finding Nemo.

Speaker 1 (32:13):
Which is very cool and in a very story.

Speaker 5 (32:21):
Radio So, speaking of Brat Girl, I'm so glad you
mentioned her. So I have a very weird connection to
a goof, to an extremely goof and my modern life
so pandemic time. The pandemic is just starting to wind down,
restrictions of starting to lift, and Mike needs something to do.

(32:43):
Mike has not met Adam yet, Michael doesn't have a
whole lot of friends here in town yet. And I've
been living here for a couple of years. So I
start looking on Instagram, like what is there to do
in Gwelph And I find this cool little thing called
Gwelph Spoken Word and I'm thinking, well, what the hell
is that? And I discover that it's a poetry slam

(33:06):
and I'm like, what the hell is that?

Speaker 1 (33:08):
That sounds weird.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
I'm a writer because at this time I had I've
been going through Connestoga College getting my writing degree. So
this was before I started working on Star Trek and
I started piping into YouTube poetry slam and I remember
a clip from a goof from an extremely goofy movie

(33:30):
coming up where Berat Girl is doing the slam poetry
in the coffee shop, and I was like, so that's
what that is huh, well, that looks weird and straight,
I'll do that. So so I go to this poetry
slam here in town at Gwelf Spoken Word that was

(33:52):
held at this brewery, and that's where it was at
that time, because they were still looking for a permanent home,
and they literally did everything in the extremely goomy, the
snapping everything else, people calling out stuff. And that's where
I started meeting a lot of my GWELF community. That's

(34:12):
what really connected me to Gwelf was meeting all the
wonderful artists and poets here in town. I would meet
people like my friend Skyler, my friend Fannin, and just
so many interesting people who would open me up to
new ways of creatively expressing myself. And while I was
watching an extremely goofy movie today Upper Crustworth or whatever

(34:36):
the fuck his name is that up, Yeah, Bradley Uppercross
the third and his goon squad are giving are giving
them what for in the coffee shop and Bray girl,
she's having none of it. And the rest of the
poets start getting up in their face. And let me
tell you that scene is so true and accurate. You

(35:00):
think poets are just a bunch of guys snapping their
fingers with funny brace No, we will break your fucking
hands if you come into our space and mess with
any of us.

Speaker 1 (35:10):
It is not tolerated.

Speaker 5 (35:13):
I was like, and I literally remember sitting to myself
saying thing, oh my god, this is accurate and it
was just such a joy. But going through this movie today,
I was like, I don't like it as much as
the first one. And the main reason I think it
is because this is very two thousands coded. This is

(35:33):
an extremely google movie, as if done by Activision. It's
almost like they had people from the Tony Hawks franchise
in the room.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
This is this is very specifically direct video. We're green
lighting this what what what can we exploit? Basically is
the yeah is the is the what can we exploit?
Era of Disney where just made sequels to the most
random shit.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
I mean this one still has a fair degree of honestly,
but even still.

Speaker 4 (36:09):
Again, this is just one of the better direct to
video sequels that they've made.

Speaker 5 (36:14):
It's better than Return a fucking Ja'far, I'll tell you
that much.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Well. Return of Jafar was like the very beginning of it,
but that trend.

Speaker 5 (36:22):
So but like looking at this they they like, you
look in the background, there's like ESPN. They're talking about
the X Games and all this stuff.

Speaker 4 (36:31):
Also, I believe this was just around when Disney bought ESPN.

Speaker 5 (36:38):
I could believe that cause, like, I'm watching the skateboarding sequences,
and I wouldn't call myself an expert by any stretch,
but I've played a lot of Tony Hawk, and I
used to watch competitive skateboarding quite a bit. I even
tried the skateboards. Let me tell you there's a reason
why I was concussed a lot when I was younger,
and I was like, these are like watching them movements

(37:00):
of Max on the board and even like kind of
p James like some of these are kind of accurate,
and even listening to the commentators on like ESPN, I'm
hearing them call out the tricks when Max is doing
uh the like halfpipe and the street course, and I'm thinking, yeah,
those are real tricks. I don't know how we pulled
that off in that short amount of time, but sure,

(37:23):
but yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:24):
Credit to Jeff Bennett who did multiple including the receptionist
that is at the beginning that talks to Goofy about.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
Yeah basically, but yeah, like I remember finding out about this.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
I think I rented this.

Speaker 5 (37:45):
I once I rented this at a small mom and
pop shot, back when that was still kind of a thing.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
I this may what year was this ken, This is
two thousand, So I want to say I might.

Speaker 4 (38:00):
Leap day two thousand.

Speaker 5 (38:02):
Yeah, I think I.

Speaker 4 (38:05):
Yeah, I remember, because I actually recently just rewatched the
trailer that was on the vh that they put on
VHS's because I distinctly remember that trailer so hard, because
it was on pretty much all of the Disney vhs'

(38:27):
is for for like a year beforehand.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Yeah, I think that's how I found out about it.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
And I think I randomly said I'm ninety percent sure
I got this on VHS, not DVD. But yeah, yeah,
so this was I'm so this was so this was
two thousand. I was living by myself for sure, So yeah,
I might have rented this from Blockbuster actually, now that

(38:53):
I kind of think about it, But.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
Yeah, this one.

Speaker 5 (38:56):
Watching it today, I like parts of it quite a bit,
but it's not as engaging as the first. Someone had
described this movie as Rodney Dangerfield goes to School. Yes,
like like this is a lesser version of that. It's
not bad by any stretch of the imagination. It's just
not as heartfelt. But I do like how they give
Max an arc where he is trying to grow up.

(39:19):
There's one line he says right at the end of
this movie. It's like I may not be your little
kidd in or something like that. He's like, but I'll
always be your son. Yeah, and I really like that.
And then Goofy finding someone New I thought was a
really nice transition. Like, Hey, if they ever do a
sequel movie, which I really hope might happen at some

(39:40):
point down the road, I guess we'll pitch your ideas
at the end of this podcast. But yeah, I like
it not as much as the first. And there's no
musical numbers. There are musical sequences set the popular movie. Yeah,
so I'm like, an ah, right, that kind of sucks,
but it is what it is. So I'll throw it

(40:01):
to you guys. What do you guys thinks?

Speaker 1 (40:03):
Goofy movie? Go ahead?

Speaker 4 (40:05):
Ken see I Yeah, no, I this was actually just
as a frequent watch as the as the first movie
in my household anyway, And honestly, like some of the

(40:25):
lines in this movie I remember so distinctly. It's not
even funny, like Brad Garrett's speech at the end where he's, hey,
remember your buddy, you left all alone, and it's like
I distinctly remember that line specifically. And then there was

(40:49):
also then some of the the Jeff Bennett stuff as
the commentator, like I distinctly remember, like the the interruptions
of his co commentator all the time. It just like
distinctly like there's a lot of this movie that I

(41:10):
distinctly remember. And it's probably mostly because my brother was
really big into this one. It was This and Rescuers
down Under were two of his more frequent ask to watch.

Speaker 6 (41:26):
Uh yeah, no, I what about seen this until today?
So I remember, No, I hadn't seen this till till today.
I remember what it came out because I was working
in the home electronics department of sellers when it did,
so I do remember when it came out, and I
completely forgot it was a leap day, but because I

(41:48):
usually worked on Tuesdays when the new new videos came out.
But there's stuff about it. I definitely like I didn't
to Ken's point, I did note the whole like the
one commentator cont butting in on the other and so
I was like writing a head canon's like, is this
the new guy who's like he's worried that this new
guy's gonna come in and take his job as the

(42:08):
head commentator or the head sports anchors. So it's like
trying to make him look bad.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
That was That was a bit weird.

Speaker 6 (42:18):
I love these these gammas, Like the bad guys are
just typical like college frat d bags out of like
Central Casting. They're just terrible pool.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
I was thinking a lot about the.

Speaker 6 (42:30):
Bad Guys and in Mighty Ducks Part three, who were
like the varsity hockey team who were looking down on
on the Mighty Ducks. I was thinking, there's there's like
a fatal attraction reference, like somebody says I will not
be ignored at one point. It's yeah, Plus the needle
drops like and it's like seventy stuff. It's like Partridge

(42:51):
Family and uh Pad bennettar and the Specials are in
here too. It's it's it's a weird talktion of things.
But I mean, ultimately, at the end, all this did
was make me miss the turn of the century, like.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
X Gas and.

Speaker 6 (43:14):
You know, just the hanging out at coffee shops nobody's on,
nobody's on a screen. You know, it's it's it's kind
of funny how that nostalgia kind of hit me. It's
just it's how refreshing the turn of the century.

Speaker 7 (43:33):
The new millennium.

Speaker 5 (43:39):
Like it's it's kind of cool how these movies one
of the things I will say, they bring a smile
to your face. And there's something about old Disney I'm
rediscovering as I age further into my forties. Not crumbling
into dust yet, but I really there's some thing that

(44:00):
I used to think it was bullshit. The Disney magic
was just it was a marketing term, and maybe it
still is for all I know. But when I go
back and watch some of these, there's such a sense
of just joy and comfort. It's like your favorite sweater
or hearing your favorite song on the radio, or maybe
getting like I don't know, just something nice from like

(44:23):
a friend, maybe like hearing from an old friend. And
I really dig these from not just a nostalgia perspective,
but sort of like I don't know, I guess if
you could call it an emotional perspective, and just looking
back on, you know, times I've had in my life,
Like I said, like going to college, for example, with

(44:43):
like Goofy kind of carving out your own life, or
even going back like I didn't.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
I didn't go to college.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
I was in my mid twenties cause I had to
go back and I had to finish one credit from
high schools I technically didn't finish, but I did go
back and get that credit.

Speaker 1 (44:59):
Then I have applied to college not too long after.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
So you know, when the when the receptionist says you
got to finish your degree, goof you if you want
a career, like all right, I resonate with that and
then finding new friends and you know, finding new people.
I mean, I've talked about this on the show before.
I got dumped during college in a very public and very.

Speaker 1 (45:22):
Disgusting way, so trying to find my way through that
and navigate again. I saw that today again.

Speaker 5 (45:31):
Like I said, I like to relate to movies in
things that have happened to me, and I maybe like
this a little bit more now that I'm older and can.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Relate to it. But I was kind of thinking about
this today, like.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
How would I do a new Goofy movie in twenty
twenty five, and they did the successful Chippendale Rescue Rangers
last year, which I thought was really good. Not what
I expected, but pretty good. Dark Wayne Duck is back
in comic book form. The New Ducktails TV show ANDed

(46:05):
a couple of years ago, but it was very successful.
And I'm wondering, how would you do this? Like I'm
guessing maybe Max and Roxanne have kids in its Grandpa
Goofy or something like that. I mean, but the thing is,
you have to sell it on the title. And I
got the thinking, I don't know, Adam, Like you're a

(46:27):
very movie savvy guy, just listening to you and Scotty
and everybody else on your other podcast, and what would
you do, Like what is the title? If we have
a Goofy movie, an extremely Goofy movie, what.

Speaker 7 (46:40):
Do you want?

Speaker 1 (46:40):
That's a good question.

Speaker 6 (46:43):
Maybe just do like a straight up like like like
a sequel move, like just call it Goofye, keep it simple.
I don't know, but that's good. I'm curious. Does anyone
know what's kind of going on with Goofy? Like, is
there like a TV show with Goofy or something?

Speaker 1 (47:06):
I don't think so.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
I think there might be something in the works at
Disney because like they can't ignore the fact that people
are talking about this on social media. They can't ignore
that they just bought this documentary, which we've kind of
talked around it, and I'm just gonna mention it. I
was able to watch a copy, but I'm in Canada.

(47:30):
That is not the case for many people right now.
For some reason, this documentary is unavailable in Canada on
Disney Plus. Because when I assigned the homework for this episode,
I said to you and I'm like, Okay, Waston a
documentary And You're like, what documentary? And I was like, okay,
does he not know how to use Disney Plus? So
went on Disney Plus and I'm looking like what the fuck?

Speaker 1 (47:50):
And it wasn't there.

Speaker 5 (47:52):
And that's the only time I can think where Disney
didn't have something where it was reachion locked and I
was like, that's weird and kind of stupid.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
But yeah, like, I don't know if there's anything in
the works right now.

Speaker 5 (48:08):
I mean maybe extended media, because I know there's Kingdom
Hearts for coming out at some point. There has been
some talk from Square NX about that. Yeah, so there
is that happening. Is there any talk of like a
new Disney, like short or something.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Nothing current. Again, like Disney is also in a transition
period at the moment, because we have the transition, we
are slowly going from the transition of let's throw everything
at the wall and see what sticks, and and the

(48:48):
more conservative let's save some money please, Like.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
What would you do with this?

Speaker 5 (48:55):
Because like, I think the time is right to do
something with this property, But what do you do? Like
could you get away with this question?

Speaker 6 (49:05):
Because plus we're seeing the same thing happening over a
Warner Brothers the Looney Tunes. They have no idea what
to do with Loony Tunes. They did they did a
space sham movie that they did the Yeah, it's it's weird.
I mean it's it's weird. Like this stuff means a
lot to us. Like I grew up with Bugs, Bunny
and Tweety Show, which is where I saw those Looney

(49:25):
Tunes shorts.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
Yeah, I think the I think the problem a lot
of kids have is that they have grown up in
the era of three D animation and anything that's much
more traditional or traditional looking just looks cheap to them.

Speaker 5 (49:47):
Yeah, Because like I was kind of thinking about this,
like to kind of talk to like Adam's point, like
you think about what is we grew up on this
two D stuff, but kids in the two thousands to now,
Let's look at some.

Speaker 1 (50:00):
Of their shows, like, for example, you.

Speaker 5 (50:02):
Have I'm gonna grab a bunch out of the air here,
but I'll say Avatar, The Last Airbender, Ben Ten, SpongeBob,
fairly odd Parents, maybe Gravity Falls.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
I'm trying to think of other shows.

Speaker 5 (50:18):
Uh, My Little Pony Friendship is magic, but that had
multiple theatrical Phineas and ferb which I think is getting
something for.

Speaker 4 (50:27):
Phineas for got greenlit for extra for an extra season
that's coming to D Plus this summer.

Speaker 5 (50:34):
I think Kim Possible. There was a live action Kim
Possible movie that featured the kid for the Goldbergs and
that was not great. But I also don't have.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
There's also talks that they're rebooting Kim Possible very shortly.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
As well, whilch I'd be okay with that.

Speaker 4 (50:54):
Disney is also trying. Disney is also in a flux
when it comes to their animation because they have no
real Uh, none of their animated films are succeeding at all.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
Is not going as hard.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
Pixar isn't as popular as it used to be. I
think Zutopia two is going to be a kick in
the right direction, but that's because Utopia became cultural icon
of the time. Yeah a billion bucks. Same thing with Molana.
Molana kept staying on Disney Plus's top ten for so long,

(51:36):
and the same thing with Zutopia. Hell, they had a
whole Zutopia short series that they put out for Disney
Plus because it was that popular. And honestly, I'm excited
for the single. Don't get me wrong, but Disney is
in flux because they haven't had something original from their animation.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Team since maybe Frozen.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
Gangbusters. Yeah, Frozen's about the last big Gangbuster original piece. Yeah,
like maybe mo Wana. Mowanna was kind of a post
mo Wana gained traction more as a post thing. I
would say, like z Utopia, which is post Frozen maybe

(52:24):
is probably the last to like. And Utopia was like
a surprise billion dollar film, like no one was expecting
it to hit a billion.

Speaker 5 (52:34):
When I look at the Disney output and say, the
last ten years, I liked Frozen, I didn't much. I
didn't like Frozen two as much. Mowana I thought was
pretty good. I really liked Coco.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
Oh, I mean, Coco is top four or five greatest
Pixar films out of their twenty eight catalog right now.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Onward I really wish had done better. I see why.

Speaker 4 (53:00):
It's Onward connects with a very specific type of person
mm hmm, and that is what makes it a little
harder to really connect. I think. I think it was
in some ways too specific and not specific enough.

Speaker 6 (53:20):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (53:23):
Elemental is also another one where I think in some
ways it was too specific and not specific enough.

Speaker 5 (53:31):
What was the Pixar movie that came out where they
were in space and not light Year? It was like
Purple Do or something. You know what I'm talking about.
It's like a November release or something.

Speaker 4 (53:45):
That movie is, that movie got pushed. It's coming out.
Oh a couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 (53:49):
Okay, yeah, that's one.

Speaker 4 (53:51):
That's Ellie. That's Ellie.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Oh yeah yeah. Like that one is like, I don't know, like.

Speaker 4 (53:57):
It feels childish.

Speaker 5 (53:59):
Yeah, Like I think Disney has a lot of older
properties they could rely on. Like, I'm honestly surprised light
Year didn't do better because I thought it was pretty fun.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
I liked it.

Speaker 4 (54:11):
Like I get why I think light Year there was
a cynicism with light Year.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
Yeah, yeah, and that's what killed it, I think.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
Again, like I have seen all of the Disney animated
I've seen all the picksar and I will say the
last few years, like Mauanaitu Wish, Strange World, all of
them are just above the like early two thousands transition

(54:44):
to CG Disney, Like, they're just above that in terms
of watchable. They're watchable.

Speaker 5 (54:53):
Yeah, Like I remember one I really enjoyed was Princess
and the Frog.

Speaker 4 (54:59):
The Frog was the very last traditionally animated Disney feature.

Speaker 1 (55:03):
And that breaks my heart.

Speaker 5 (55:05):
Now as we begin to close things out, what property
do you think is maybe due for the next rediscovering?

Speaker 1 (55:15):
Generally? What do you think anything?

Speaker 4 (55:20):
Like?

Speaker 5 (55:20):
What do you think is is something from pre two
thousands that people are gonna say, maybe that wasn't as
bad as it was, or maybe it deserves a second look,
Like do you think maybe Tailspin deserves another look? Or
maybe Dark Wing Duck deserves a shot at something legit
other than like a joke cameo and Rescue Ranger sort
of thing.

Speaker 4 (55:41):
I mean, I know they are working on it on
a Dark Wing Duck reboot that's been in production, for
a while, but in terms of old Disney that I
think should be reassessed seriously. Black Cauldron. Yes, yeh fucking
adore The Black Cauldron, even though it is a terrible

(56:05):
adaption of the books. I've read the books. It's a
terrible adaption, but it is still an interesting movie that
honestly is definitely one of Disney's darker films by a
very wide margin. And honestly, I'm absolutely flabbergacid that there

(56:34):
is a four K transfer to that movie sitting on
Disney Plus and they have never released that physically. Maybe
they have a physical on like the Disney Movie Club
or whatever as an exclusive or something. I don't know,
but seriously, Disney released that, I will buy it. And
Disney Blu rays are expensive as fuck. They're like fifty

(56:54):
bucks a pop.

Speaker 7 (56:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (56:56):
I had to stop when the Disney Movie Club stops
shipping the Canada, But I used to buy a lot
of Disney just because I'd never wanted to lose it
if it went into the Disney vault or something.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
I don't know, Adam, what do you think? What is
something you'd like to see?

Speaker 6 (57:09):
I can't think of a specific property, but one of
the things that's been scratching, you know, my, my, I get.
One of the things bothering me is that Disney doesn't
make sort of live action like kids adventure films anymore,
you know, thinking you think like things like Homework Bound,
where it's you know, it's also like legitimate mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
That whole division was all part of the whole division
was part of the Touchstone brand. I mean and now
and nowadays that that that's what that the Touchstone brand
is what I get.

Speaker 6 (57:47):
I know, one hundred percent they can bring it back though,
because I mean.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
That wasn't Oh they've been truck They tried to do
it with the Disney Plus stuff.

Speaker 6 (58:01):
Well some of it is like right, the hotales of
like other properties like the National Treasure TV show so well,
you know, which is like basically.

Speaker 5 (58:10):
A way cooler than what it was.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
There are there were originals, there were original kids movies
on yeah Plus they all got removed because no one
was watching them because they weren't that bad.

Speaker 6 (58:29):
Yeah, fair enough, But you know you could if we
can put like genuine talent and and time, effort and
energy and also like genuine danger. I think one of
the things that makes Homeward Bound when you're watching it
as a kid. One of the thing that makes it
work is that you think those dogs will die. When
when you watch the end of Homeward Back and the
cat comes over the hill and then the younger dog

(58:49):
comes over there, and it's beat beat beat, and you're
waiting for the old dog. You're like, oh my god,
that the old dog gets smoke so the other two
can come home. And then the older dog comes up
over the hill and you're elated. Uh, but you're a limping.
But you think for a minute that dog got limping,
And I think that it's a helpful lesson for the kids. Sometimes, Yeah,

(59:11):
heroic dogs die, but maybe they don't.

Speaker 4 (59:14):
It's not good. Disney is not good. Disney is not
afraid to scare the ship out of you.

Speaker 5 (59:22):
Yeah, Like, now, was Milo and otis another one of
those Disney things?

Speaker 4 (59:27):
Or was otis was not technically Disney, but that is
might I think that's Paramount or Warner Brothers.

Speaker 5 (59:41):
Because like, because like I'm agreed, because like I'm agreeing
with like you Adam to put more good live action
Disney kids movies, because I think Nickelodeon Films has kind
of stepped into that role there was one I saw
during the pandemic and it was a Nickelodeon film and
had John's seeing a Key from Key and Peel and

(01:00:02):
it was called Playing with Fire, and I really enjoyed that.
I was like, this is really funny and it's goofy.
And Dave and en Rique did an episode earlier this
year on Harriet's Spy with Michelle I.

Speaker 4 (01:00:19):
Believe the first Nick movie.

Speaker 5 (01:00:22):
Yeah, like, I'd like to see more of these. And
when they try to rely on legacy, you get the
Mighty Ducks TV show, which wasn't terrible, but it wasn't
good either, And they tried to bring in the one
dude from Letter Kenny, and I'm really sad he's only
ever going to be cast as a goofy hockey player
for the rest of his career because he's really funny.

(01:00:44):
But that's two hockey roles in a row, Bud. You
better branch out in like really shitty like jewelry commercials.

Speaker 4 (01:00:53):
As as we're starting to like kind of wind down
from this era of Disney live action remakes because because
clearly they're not making enough money. Though Leelow and Stitch
is probably gonna make a ton of money, and I
know that for a fact, because that's that's a huge
tou touchstone.

Speaker 1 (01:01:12):
With my docation. My hole, shit, that was legit.

Speaker 4 (01:01:17):
I would love I would love Disney to just tap
into some of the stuff that didn't really hit as hard,
like do a live action Atlantis, do a live action
Treasure Planet. Seriously, Disney, what the hell? At least they're
doing a live action Hercules. I do appreciate that they're

(01:01:38):
doing that, and that's one of the more weirder Disney
movies that they that they're live actioning. But like, seriously,
Treasure Planet, in Atlantis, Lost Empire, write the fuck there.

Speaker 5 (01:01:53):
I would love to see something. And this will be
my final thought on this. I want it's gonna do
something with the rescuer. I've really like Bernard and I
can't remember the other character's name, but I really like, yeah,
beyond that, and I think you could do a lot
of that, even if you want to turn that into

(01:02:14):
live action, you could do that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
It was a miracle that got the second movie, yeah,
because the first movie did not make enough.

Speaker 6 (01:02:22):
That was the power of Australia.

Speaker 4 (01:02:24):
The first movie was not very well received.

Speaker 5 (01:02:27):
I mean, maybe a way to test Yeah, I mean,
I kind of wonder if a way to test movie.
I don't know if this is even feasible. Maybe Adam
and Ken, you guys might know better. You guys understand
the movie business better than me. But maybe have a tournament.
And what I mean by that is you pick three

(01:02:50):
movies that people might want to see, make a ten
minute short, throw them up on Disney Plus and see
which one does better and the one who that's the most.

Speaker 4 (01:03:01):
Do a Disney pitch like animation jam or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:03:08):
Yeah, and just see what happens, because I would love
to see, you know, Therestlers come back or something.

Speaker 4 (01:03:13):
In a way. That's what Pixar did in the early
days because a lot of the people that worked on
the shorts early on.

Speaker 6 (01:03:21):
And Amazon did that in the beginning with pilots. Amazon
would produce a bunch of pilots and then put them
up for like choose which pilots you want to see
become a series. Yes, one more thing. I looked up
the Avengers of Milo and Otis. Turns out it was
a Japanese production that was released by Columbia North America. Yeah,

(01:03:42):
you want to guess the Japanese production company that.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
Ah there we go.

Speaker 6 (01:03:50):
It was Toho, the makers of Godzilla made Milo and otos.

Speaker 7 (01:03:57):
Hah.

Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
Yeah, the secret crossover we knew we never needed. Well,
the rights are right there, so Mathram versus Bilo. But yeah, yeah, exactly,
Hey Godzilla, Hey Disney, guess what I'm pitching. But yeah,
this has been a really good discussion. I'm glad we

(01:04:21):
really got a chance to talk about these. And we're
not done with Disney yet. As we've kind of hinted out,
We're gonna talk about Atlanta. We're gonna talk about Treasure Planning,
two movies I have never seen, So I'm really looking forward.

Speaker 4 (01:04:37):
This was the area where Disney was trying to get
the boy audience because they had the girled audience on
lock and Yeah, mixed results.

Speaker 5 (01:04:49):
Yeah, so maybe I'll discover some new favorites. I'm certainly
looking forward to that. We will have more shows here.
We're gonna do a couple more rams. You're gonna be
hearing more loose cannons as we proceed through the summer months.
We are already well on our way to getting our
adventure through Middle Earth ready to rock and roll, so
we're looking forward to be doing that. We'll have multiple

(01:05:10):
different guest hosts on that Dave made John from time
to time.

Speaker 1 (01:05:13):
Adam's going to be joining.

Speaker 5 (01:05:14):
Us Ken myself. I have talked to a few other
experts to see if I can get them. I just
have to try and align schedules. But yeah, I'm looking
forward to revisiting all those movies as well. I know
we're doing something on Summer Kids Double Feature because we've
kind of talked about that, So we'll be talking about
some live action movies like that later on. I'm not

(01:05:35):
sure when this is coming out exactly, so I'm not
going to date things too badly, but there's a lot
of stuff cooking, so, like I said, next time for sure.
Though what's following this show will definitely be our Treasure
Planet and Atlantis, so look forward to that and beyond that,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
So for this week, and Geek from fellow gwell fight
you have been from New.

Speaker 4 (01:05:58):
Jersey Ken from this end.

Speaker 5 (01:06:00):
And I've been Mike the Birdman saying be kind rewind
We'll catch you guys again next time.

Speaker 1 (01:06:05):
Right here on this weo can geek dot net?

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
Are either one of these any good? Sir? What are
either one of these any good? I don't watch movies.
Quick TAKEE the Chow. You're wasting your life making shit.
Nobody cares.

Speaker 7 (01:06:24):
These movies are terrible.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
You're still here. It's over.

Speaker 1 (01:06:29):
Go home, go

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