TWIG Random Access Memories - Pitching Our Own Movie Double Features! - ThisWeekInGeek

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 6 (00:48):
You are listening to twigs random access memory. This is
the Twig Show where we typically make it up on
the spot, maybe the day before, perhaps even during. I
am your host, Mike the burn Man, and this is
Takenumero Deus as Mike's mixer board decided to give me
a big old middle finger. But I'm joined by my friends,

(01:08):
my compatriots, my good old buddies, from the great state.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
Of New Jersey, ken from this anime and from the
land of wonder and merriment.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
David Dean Oier of do you have a movie coming
to you from Ohio?

Speaker 2 (01:21):
That's right, guys.

Speaker 6 (01:22):
So we are back here on twigs Random Access Memory,
and well, this is the show where we just kind
of make it up as we go. We have a
group chat, we just kind of chit chat back and forth,
and we just kind of throwed ideas. And this is
the show where we don't necessarily do a lot of prep.
But for today's Dave tossed out a really fun idea
and I'm really glad he did, cause you've really gotten

(01:47):
into letterbox recently.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
So thanks for that, my friend.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
It's not hard to do.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
It's kind of fun.

Speaker 6 (01:55):
Like, I found myself with a lot more free time
recently then I have had in like the last couple
of years, which is a little weird if you know
my typical schedule and what I typically do during a week.
But i always find myself with some time at night.
And I'll even text you, Dave a couple times during
the week. I'm like, hey, throw me out some ideas

(02:17):
for movies and I'll see what I can find either
on two B at Amazon Prime, Shutter or throughout the
high seas, shall we say, And I'm like, all right,
let's see what I can watch today. And on the weekend,
I sat down and I finally went through some of
my older backlog that built up during the pandemic. And

(02:40):
I've seen some amazing flicks in the last little while,
and I've also seen some not so good ones in
the last little while.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
But it really kind of got me.

Speaker 6 (02:48):
Thinking, you get those oh yeah, and I'm like, how
did this happen?

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Why did this happen?

Speaker 6 (02:55):
And I'll probably do another thing with like Aaron and
Alex at like point, for like Future imperfect or maybe
a loose cannon with like kind of those guys. But
you guys had suggested develop your own double feature, and
I've only ever gone to a couple of these in
my real life.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
When I was growing up, there was the.

Speaker 6 (03:18):
Town that was over from where I actually grew up,
was called Owen Sound, and we used to have a
little theater in our little quote unquote dirt mall which
was three screens, which eventually became five and then eventually
became like a seven or eight movie plus when they
tore down the mall and rebuilt right from the ground up.

(03:38):
And if I recall rights, I want to say my
first ever double feature that was specifically programmed as a
double feature was Teenage Mutane Ninja Turtles two Secret of
the Ooze, which we are going to talk about the
Ninja Turtles franchise on this show, probably fairly soon actually,
And I think the other movie they had paired up

(04:00):
with that was Three Ninjas. And I remember this was
a big deal because in my small town we never
did stuff like this. So the owner of the theater
or the manager whatever, this guy came out, and I
want to say he was more well dressed than I expected.
I'm like maybe nine, maybe ten years old at this point,

(04:23):
and my grandmother would always drop me off at the
movie theater while she went shopping. We'd go into Owen,
so we'd leave my house at about noon. I'd have
lunch before I went into the theater. A movie would
start around one. Took about fifteen twenty minutes to get
from my house to the theater and i'd go in there.
My grandmother dropped me. I was like, all right, Michael,
I'll pick up around three thirty four o'clock.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Cool.

Speaker 6 (04:45):
So I'd go to the theater and yeah, went in.
So first time I saw a teenage ute nin Ninja
Turtles two. It was awesome, and then I saw three
Ninjas again, fantastic Ninja's kids.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
It's a good time.

Speaker 6 (04:59):
And I want to say they did one more after that,
but I'm not one hundred percent sure.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
But my theaters never did it again.

Speaker 6 (05:08):
It wasn't until I went to college a number of
years later.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
There was a very famous theater.

Speaker 6 (05:15):
In Toronto called the Bluer Street Cinema, and with some
of the older members of Twig once upon a time,
way back in our origin story days, I remember we
would shoot shorts for the theater. So we did a
We did a short film for Ricky Oh, which is like.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Some I help us saw that for the first time
this year.

Speaker 6 (05:38):
Yeah, we we did something for that. We did one
for Sean of the Dead, and yeah, I figures Ricky
Oh and Sean of the Dead was the double feature
they programmed for some reason. And I remember getting dressed
up as a zombie. I was covered in blood and gore.
The thing I remember most about that shoot is I

(05:58):
had a T shirt on, which is this is gonna
be as offensive as fuck. But I've covered in blood
and gore and I'm wearing a T shirt that says
anorexia survivor and I'm eating a braid.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
O oh oh my god.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Oh yeah. And obviously I'm a big guy, so you know.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
I kill I love those iron knee shirts.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
Like I own a shirt that says slacker on it,
and I wear that to work every day.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
I wear that. It works. Sometimes it's like hilarious.

Speaker 6 (06:24):
I remember I was in a restaurant and I had
this like T shirt on and some woman looks at me,
and I can't remember what she said to me, but
I remember the quip that I fired back at her.
I remember saying I kicked Bolivia's ass of Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
That when Mike was in his edgy days, not so
much now.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
I've been looking back on my edgy days too, because
I have this wonderful habit of waiting till midnight because
usually I'm up by then, and I'll go to my
Facebook and be like, let's look at memories. Oh, fourteen
years ago status, you're gone, fifteen year ago status, you're gone.
Another fourteen year ago status, you're gone.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Oh yeah, I'm the like exact same. Actually it was funny.

Speaker 6 (07:07):
So a while ago, I would do the exact same
thing as you, and I would go through my old
Facebook memories and I'm like, okay, let's delete that. Let's
delete that, Let's delete.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
That problematic, problematic, problematic.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
It wasn't even so much problematic. It was more so
just like shut up, like you you you you literally
didn't have a job at this point. You were in
college or high school. Like you, shut the fuck up,
like you you don't even know hardships, your dumb ass.
And I'm talking to myself at that point.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
Oh my god, So this is why I I didn't
post pictures of myself on Facebook until I was in college.

Speaker 1 (07:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
I think the most like embarrassing thing so far has
just been that, like I used to say, text it
like that was like an invite for people contact me.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
What the fuck? Look at Dave being so cool? Just
text me? Fuck, just texted, just texted.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
And oh god, Like in the amount of times that
like I was anti establishment, anti censorship, which you know,
I still am to a degree of course today, but
it's just like there were times that I was reading
the shit and I was just like, homie, like you
own it on Blue right now, Like you were bitching
about this kind of a movie or this kind of
a song, and we have it now, So did this
really do anything?

Speaker 7 (08:22):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (08:22):
Yeah, Like it's wild to look back at how we
were in like the like the like late aughts going
into the twenty tens. Like I look back and I
remember I got Facebook specifically to do college projects, and
it's so wild just to see some of the things
that I used to do and say, and now looking

(08:42):
at my growth over the past like fifteen years or so,
because I think I got Facebook in two thousand and seven,
I want to say, And I remember I was on
my Space in the early days of twig trying to
keep up with that, and then I don't even remember
when Facebook just took over. It was just so much
easier to use for like group projects and stuff like that.

(09:04):
Like how I remember finding my college house on Facebook
and this is before Facebook Marketplace was even a thing.
I think I found it through like some housing group
or something like that.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
So, uh, I'll ask Ken this first because we're the
same age, But did you did you go all the
way back to Zanga? Because like Zanga was like my
first social media like along with like Picture Trail, like
those were the two sites that I started those.

Speaker 7 (09:33):
So.

Speaker 4 (09:35):
Definitely there. Zea was definitely there, but I was I
was MSN baby.

Speaker 3 (09:43):
So okay, I mean I had I had like a
I am like that was also like one of the
first Yeah, I was.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
An MSN baby. And then I also I was super
old school because I would go on to, uh this
if this message board is still out there, and there
are still some posts, old posts that exist, but there
was a huge crash of the message board at one
point and a lot of that stuff has disappeared from

(10:11):
the internet.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
Thank god, it makes sense, makes sense.

Speaker 4 (10:14):
But I was a big I was still a big
Pokemon fan and I still am. But uh, there was
a Pokemon fan site called poke Beach and I was
a prominent member on their forums, and that was mostly
where a lot of that's that's where you hovered. Yeah,

(10:34):
that's and and there were old school message boards. Yeah,
super old school even for the time.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Oh yeah, I mean I I remember like I was
on Zega for probably at least a good year before
then it gravitated to MySpace and then I would say,
within like a year of Facebook going live more so
to the public outside of the college crowd, like that's
when I joined it. But yeah, it was it was
kind of funny and what you're to answer your question, Mike,

(11:01):
Picture Trail was a just a It was just basically
yie old Instagram because it was you uploaded pictures and
then put labels on them, and then you could be
friends with people and see their pictures. And then Zanga
was literally just a live journal. It was you you
to add pictures, you had the no coding, which was
always a pain in the ass, uh, and then you

(11:21):
basically could put a song on it and then you know,
you could do your little posts and whatnot.

Speaker 2 (11:26):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (11:27):
Use I used photo bucket, but photo bikes also photo
bucket was a photo Bucket was where photo Bucket was
where a lot of porn was.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
I remember that much. I would just be like you'd
be strolling and be like oh oh, like yeah, just
you'd be fucking looking at just everything you could imagine.
At one point, like I've had buckets corrupted a lot
of people and don't.

Speaker 6 (11:48):
Realize Bucket still fucking emails me to this very game
at least, like are you sure you want to delete
your photos? Asshole? I abandoned this account fourteen years ago. Yes,
please fuck off and die.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
I have an ex that went through the steps and
I mean the steps to get her photo Bucket account
back because she wanted like all these old pigs, like
she was emailing with them for months and getting password
reset and then finally they were just like, okay, we
think we recovered your account, and sure enough they did,

(12:23):
and I was just like, holy shit, Like you just
went through like three and a half months of work
to recover your photo bucket. Wasn't really that important.

Speaker 6 (12:30):
See, she's the type of person who would play, who
would pay for fucking wind Rar, And I appreciate that
she went through the fucking deal.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
I eventually played paid for wind Ar just for shits
and giggles, See I like it now.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
Usually at the consumer electronics show, I think if you
go up to the wind Roar guys and say, hey,
I actually purchased a license, they'll actually do something cool
for you, because like, wow, you're number fifty person in
the world who's actually done that.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
That's amazing. Or people who used to play pay for
like mrk so am I r.

Speaker 3 (13:05):
For wind Arar. Now that I think about it, I
need to I need to check that because when you
and you me and you, me and Alex did that
Christmas episode, I had to open those files, and I
was like, ship, what can I get?

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Really?

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Wind arar, I own this. It's free.

Speaker 6 (13:18):
Oh my god, Like it's crazy to look back at
the history. So fuck, that's almost a show in and
of itself, because like I go all the way back
before ms N, I'm ic Q, i' trillion Yahoo Messenger,
and I've got some stories I can't mention because they
don't paint me in a very great light.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
Because I was a teenager.

Speaker 3 (13:38):
I got that. Well you want you want to hear
something funny real quick is that Hen had to fix
his printer with DOS this week.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
What how.

Speaker 3 (13:49):
I don't I'm not sure. It's one of the one
of his disc printers, I believe, so I'm not sure,
but yeah, he had to. He had used DOS to
get it to operational again because we were laughing about
that theater that week.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Oh my god.

Speaker 6 (14:02):
So I guess, guys, without any further ado, let's kind
of jump into this week's topic for RAM and that's
going to be a double feature. So I guess I'm
gonna start with Dave Ferson, then I'll go to Ken.

Speaker 2 (14:15):
What was your first ever double feature?

Speaker 3 (14:18):
So I was lucky enough to be a high school
kid and I'm going to dedicate this episode to my
friend and Enrique's friend and mentor, the late great Andrew
cop director of The Mutilator, Man of Mutilation Man. He
was a d native and was a guy that simply
loved weird, strange, good movies, but also the camaraderie that

(14:44):
movies brought people together and whatnot. And he he started
double features back before even I was born, or when
I was like very young, So I didn't meet this
man until probably about two thousand and seven, I want
to say, And like I said, I was lucky enough
that he was still kind of doing his thing, which
was he started this thing called Independent Shadow Cinema, which

(15:05):
was at a theater in Inglewood every I want to say,
Saturday night, might be even Friday night, I can't remember.
And it was a main feature that he would he
would prominently feature and say this is the movie we're showing,
and then it was also a secret double feature because
he didn't want to pay to get the rights to
show the second movie, so he never announced it, so

(15:26):
he just showed it. So I can tell you, like
the first one that I went to was Embodiment of Evil,
which was the Coffin Joe, the later Coffin Joe movie
that Snaps ended up putting now and then the secret
feature to that was the first time I ever saw
Savage Streets with Linda Blair, which is all time favorite
movie of mine.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Now.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
I love the soundtrack. The movie itself is just a
absolute fucking trip and eighties exploitation trash to a t.
So that was like the first one I went to.
But the thing I love solely about double features is
you have less chance to grab your audience, and I
think that puts more thought into it. Because one thing
that Andy also did was run the annual hor Rama

(16:09):
at the same theater, which was the four to five
movie marathon close to Halloween. This is like the place
I first saw House by the Cemetery Devil times five shit,
I mean, Night Warning aka Butcher Baker, nightmare Maker, Alligator,
like all of these movies which were usually shown on
film up to a certain point. So you know, you

(16:32):
what I love about a double feature, like I said,
is you've got a less you gotta you got a
less chance to grab your audience. And what I mean
by that is you've got to put more thought into
a double feature because when it's a multi feature, when
you go up to three or even past three, you've
got chances for the audience to go out and grab
a smoke, you know, have some popcorn, you know, in
and out of the movie, Whereas like when you have
a double feature, you're trying to keep them glued to the

(16:53):
screen both movies. And what I love about double features
in general is if you play up the idea of
this first movie being an indie underground or like main
feature or whatnot, and then have this idea of a
second feature that either they don't know about or that
they've never seen, the combination of figuring out what's the

(17:15):
best double feature is all about balance. And then on
top of that is you have to take into account
that some of these people may or may not be
up to your status of movie. So it's like, you
know what I mean by that is just like you
could show some wild shit, Like you could show some
stuff that people have never seen. You could show a favorite,
you could show something that like, you know, maybe you

(17:36):
want to express to other people to get out there
because you love it so much. Like double features in general,
to me take some good thought because you could do
something as easy as Batman and Batman returns. Don't get
me wrong, like I love that double feature. I've been
in that double feature. It's blast. But then when you
take into account like hey, here's Chud and we're also
going to show like Latin Rith, it's like, okay, well,

(17:57):
how do these two correlate? And then when somebody usually explains,
you can tell if they put a lot of thought
into it or they just wanted to sit in a
theater and watch movies with their friends. Either way, I'm good.
But the double feature, to me, is key to getting
into the idea of balancing your taste in film to
where you can also catalog and program. And that's something

(18:17):
that some people can do and some people can't, But
the ones that can do it have a lot of
fun doing it, and then you slowly can learn how
to do better with it. So a double feature to
me is just an ultimate test but also usually a blast.
Like there's very few double features that I walked out
and even thinking one film was bad. It's the experience itself,
is just like going into somebody's mind and being like, Okay,

(18:39):
why did they think these two were good together? Side
by side?

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Oh? Wow?

Speaker 6 (18:43):
Yeah, wow, you put a lot of thought into that,
Like I really wish I'd had the experiences that you did,
just because obviously living in where I am in Ontario, Canada.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, there are places that.

Speaker 6 (18:56):
Do it, like I said, like the Blur Street Cinema
would do it a lot. Like I remember one double
feature I went to What the fuck was I? I
want to say, we saw it was a Paul Verhoven
double feature. We saw RoboCop obviously, and then we saw
Starship Troopers, which, again, so you get the hyper satire,

(19:16):
you get the ultra violence, and that kind of makes sense,
but not like you went into like again that's yeah, yeah,
like it's it's an easy layup, I think, Yeah, you.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
Can different directions with it. That's the thing is, like,
you know, when you have the concept of the double feature,
like you automatically can think back to those like Warner
Brothers double features where it's just like here's a Vincent
Price movie and here's you know, another Vincent Price movie,
or here's the entire lethal weapon pack. Like it's weird
because like you can think of it in the idea
of showing like a chronological film series or it's literally

(19:51):
two movies that make no sense side by side sometimes too,
because like that was there was one that was going
around and I think it was fake, but it was
like one of the was like lions Gate double features
and it was like a kid's movie with a horror
movie and it was like his or Hers and shit
like that. Like there was one that was like I
Spit on Your Grave and how to Lose a Guy
in Ten Days and it was like his and hers, Like,
oh it was it was really funny. And like I said,

(20:14):
I'm pretty sure those were fake. But it's like that's
kind of the thing with it. It's just like you
can also have dark humor with your double feature for
that matter, like you could do B movie in My Girl.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Yeah, like, oh my god, that's fucking dark. Jesus what
I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (20:29):
It's just like there's there's so many different directions you
can go with it. You can be humorous with it,
and you can also you know, you can stack the
decks in your favor by putting two awesome movies on
the roster or The thing I loved about Andy when
he would do independent shadow cinema or horrrama is he
would throw us curveballs, like I mean like night Warning
Butcher Baker Nightmare Maker was not available when I saw

(20:51):
it on the screen for the first time. Like it
was you could get it at conventions on a bootleg,
but like as far as like DVDVA and Blu ray releases,
they didn't exist yet. Fast forward, you know, almost twenty
years now, we just got a four K a Butcher
Baker Nightmare Baker. So it's like, I feel really lucky
because those double features not only allowed me to expand
my film horizons, but they also showed me that movies

(21:14):
even on the lower tier that like you know, don't
have the Hollywood stars and all this stuff, like the
Italian horror or the late seventies things that like didn't
make much of a make much of a stink except
to the horror fans. Those movies existed to me, and
I had either read about them or knew nothing about them,
and it was just so cool to have that brought in.
And that's also the beauty of a double features showing

(21:34):
people's stuff. And that's what I love about planning double features.
What I do with my friends or you know, when
I get the rare instances to program on the junk
food Cinema discord that I'm a part of, Like.

Speaker 6 (21:45):
I remember, I think what really brought the double feature
back for me? And then I guess Ken, I obviously
I want to see your kind of input, Like if
you guys remember, I guess this would have been two
years ago now maybe yeah when Barbenheimer. That was the
weird summer double feature and then they tried to do

(22:06):
it again with something else but it didn't quite kick.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Saw Patrol was the one that I loved. It was
the Saw X and Paw Patrol movie.

Speaker 6 (22:13):
Oh yeah, see, I kind of wish I'd done that
because I'm not suffering.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
I'm not suffering through Paw Patrol.

Speaker 6 (22:21):
For that, we take a lot of fucking edibles and
hope for the best.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (22:26):
Well, and I think also too really quick for we
move on to Ken Is. We got to keep in
mind too that I think double feature also came back
big for a lot of us because Joe Bob Briggs
came back recently.

Speaker 6 (22:34):
Yeah yeah, and I and I'm starting to get into
Joe Bob because I know me Hen and James Rawl
are going to be doing that for the Twig Halloween
Specials show. We're going to be talking about horror hosts. Yeah,
and I actually don't know a lot about Joe Bob.
I started watching some of his stuff on shutter in

(22:55):
the last year or so and started looking into some
of the people he was working with. I didn't know
Darcy the male girl was an adult film actress, but
she's very funny too, so her career is definitely diversified.
Looking into like just some of the other people he
calls like mutants I think is what he calls his
like fans or whatever.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was.

Speaker 6 (23:17):
There's a documentary I want to find and I've only
ever found it on eBay and I found it on
to be like fifteen years ago or something, and it
was called American Scary, and I've never been able to
secure a copy. Like I even had Alex go out
on the high seas to look for it, and he's like, Mike,

(23:37):
this is so exceptionally rare.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Nobody has ever ripped it.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
You should talk to Enrique because I think he may
or may not have a copy of it, because I
know we talked about it before, so he might have it.

Speaker 6 (23:49):
I really hope. So, because that's I want to say,
that's what got me back into horror movies really large
to two thousands, and I was like, wow, this is
really neat, and I know people like Skilly Billy and
all that stuff. But anyway, I'm getting off track. So Ken,
what's your history with double features?

Speaker 7 (24:06):
Dude?

Speaker 4 (24:07):
So if you look at my letterbox, I do double
features pretty much every week.

Speaker 8 (24:14):
Oh wow, I've been doing I've been doing it consistently
since like twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, and.

Speaker 4 (24:25):
I just I will just go, okay, what's out and
do that as like a decompression from the work week.
And that is how I just have been doing it
since that point. And it's been it's been interesting. I've
had some very good double features. I've had some really

(24:47):
shit double features, and.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Sometimes you can have fun with those too, though I
will say, oh yeah, sometimes shit ones can be actually
better than the like oh I put Green Mile and
Shawshank together.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
Yeah, But like I also do, I also kick off
my year every year. This has been a tradition since
twenty eighteen. Is I go to the theater, spend the
entire day at the theater, see three to four movies
for the whole day.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Oh yeah, And.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
Like recently, this last one was Mufassa the Lion King,
which not good, and then I cleanse myself by what
rewatching Wicked for the Usually I'll throw a rewatch in
from the previous year if it's still playing, and I'll

(25:43):
watch I'll watch that and then do a brand new
feature and it's usually like, Okay, this came out over
the holiday season and I just didn't have the time
to go watch it, and I did Mufasa Wicked Knows Faratu.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Oh nice.

Speaker 6 (26:02):
That's fucking total whiplash from you know, the Birth of
a King to necrophilia to define gravity.

Speaker 5 (26:10):
Hey.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, last week I did a triple feature with my
friend Salise, who goes by Sweet and Spooky on YouTube.
We I showed her torque, then we wanted Cecil b Demented,
followed by Disney's Sleeping Beauty.

Speaker 2 (26:24):
Okay, I want the Motorcycle movie.

Speaker 3 (26:26):
Fucking a toward the Motorcycle movie.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
Okay all the time. I mean, like a couple of
a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 4 (26:32):
I did Pride the twenty the two thousand and five,
Pride and Prejudice and Minecraft.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
I mean Pride and Prejudice a great movie. Minecraft I'm
curious about, but I'm not Russian. It's horrible.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
I want.

Speaker 3 (26:47):
I've heard back and forth like it is not a movie. Yeah,
this is. This is a movie that has literally separated
people because like I've heard from fans that usually like
hate movies that like they loved it, and then I've
heard from people that like also love movies that they
loved it, and then I've also heard the other side
where it's just it's awful. So like I'm so it's.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
It's not a movie.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
It's it's just not a movie, is what I have
to say. It's a series of scenes disguised as a movie.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
It's it's so funny.

Speaker 6 (27:16):
Like eventually we'll have to talk about the video game
double feature. Maybe that'll be a future thing, because Dave,
you had pitched a really fun idea about doing this
as a segment, like five to ten minutes, pitch a
double feature and then move on to our main topic.
Which I really liked that idea because that gets the old,
the old gray matter working, and I really think that's

(27:38):
actually a really slick idea. So yeah, I love that.
So let's get into it. I'm gonna start because you
guys will have much better shit than me, and you
can make fun of me.

Speaker 2 (27:49):
Okay, so I've got too one. I'm still kind of
work shopping.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
So I'm gonna start with the weaker of the two
because I think it has a lot of potential. So,
as you guys, no, I play a lot of Dungeons
and Dragons. I've been in a personal group with some
very cool friends of mine for over a year, and
this is the longest running D and D game I
have ever been a part of, which is funny because
most D and D groups usually fall apart around session three.

(28:16):
We are in session forty something I want to say
right now, and we're as of this recording, we are
we are at level seven when we started at level four.
So that's a pretty big deal for us. We're not
getting levels like where we're super powered, you know, gods.
But it's a really great engaging storyline. So I decided
I wanted to do a double a Dungeons and Dragons

(28:39):
double feature.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
But in the D and D rules.

Speaker 6 (28:42):
For twenty fourteen and in twenty twenty four there's this
mechanic called rolling with advantage or disadvantage. When you roll
with advantage, you roll to twenty side a die. You
take the highest of the two roles disadvance, you get
the idea. So in the D and D world as

(29:04):
of right now, there are five Dungeons and Dragons movies.
There's the one from two thousand, the one from two
thousand and five called Wrath of the Dragon God, twenty
twelve called the Book of Vile Darkness, and then there's
Honor among Thieves, which was the theatrical release from the
Pandemic twenty twenty three. And then there's one that was

(29:25):
previous before that called dragon Lance Dragons of Autumn Twilight,
which is based upon the Margaret Weiss series. So I
want to find a way to make this a double feature,
so I was thinking about actually using dice rolls. You
would roll two D twenty if you can roll with
D twenty. If you can roll that and get a twenty,

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you get the pick, or the theater would get the pick,
or your group of friends which one do they want
to see first? And odds are it'll probably be Honor
among Thieves, which is the considered to be the superior ra.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
Good Dungeons and Dragons.

Speaker 6 (30:02):
Yes, whereas if you roll a natural one you get
stuck watching dragon Wanes Dragons of Autumn Twilight because I
tried watching that a Holy shit.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
Is that a fuck me?

Speaker 6 (30:14):
But hey, maybe you really like the one from two
thousand with Marlon Wayne's which I will actually defend that movie.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
It has some moments, Yeah, it's watchable.

Speaker 6 (30:27):
The other ones, you're rolling dice, and that's kind of
what I had the idea for my first double fear.
I'm still working out the dice mechanics because I wanted
to make sense if there were six D and D movies,
then I could do it because I'd be like, Okay, cool,
we're gonna roll on a D six and see what
you get. So I want to do something with fantasy,

(30:48):
So I would call my double feature Rolling with Advantage,
and it would be sort of a fantasy based thing,
more slanted towards D and D, but the real double feature. Actually,
I want to get your guys feedback before I go
to my real ones. I think my real one has
a lot of potential. So what do you guys think
about my D and D based one?

Speaker 9 (31:09):
That sounds awesome, I'll be honest, because I think it
would be awesome to get like a theater of D
and D nerds and help before the theater starts.

Speaker 6 (31:21):
Everybody comes in like an hour beforehand, and everybody gets
handed a character sheet, and maybe you can fill things
in at the same time make it a whole interactive experience.
I think you could have some real fun with this,
especially if you ran this during a convention weekend. If
you did this during Dragon Con or gen Con, you

(31:42):
could have some real fun with this. And you could
even if there was a really big theater dork or
someone who's really good at organizing.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Don't look at me, but if you.

Speaker 6 (31:51):
Could figure out who which character class is dominant, like,
all right, fighters, there's more fighters in this.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Theater than there are clerics. What's gonna happen next?

Speaker 6 (32:03):
And then you could maybe do something weird and wacky
and have some fun. Like I've been to movies where
people get involved. I think they call it shadow plays. Yeah,
Like I used to know a couple of girls who
really did repo the Genetic Opera. But I've also seen
people do shadow plays for Jurassic Park, which is a
little weird.

Speaker 3 (32:24):
Is the most famous.

Speaker 6 (32:25):
Yeah, and yeah, so I think I think there's potential
with my idea, but it's very audience dependent to really
get the most out of it. Especially you start throwing around, well,
is that a cantrip?

Speaker 2 (32:39):
Is that a spell? What's their armor class? What is
their thaco?

Speaker 6 (32:42):
Like, you know, I'm getting it into the weeds of
the D and D terms, So it could potentially exclude
some people, but no one's gonna say no to watching
honor among thieves. It's basically Guardians of the Galaxy with
swords with swords.

Speaker 3 (32:55):
Yeah, And I mean I would say you you kind
of are selling yourself out a bit on the whole
thing of like cutting people off, because you might be
surprised that even just introducing the element of D and
D to somebody that hasn't played before might be enough
to grab them. And not only showing the two movies
but also making it an interactive event in that sense
is a really cool idea.

Speaker 6 (33:13):
Yeah, Like I would love to do this, And I
think if you did this, I said, at a convention night,
Dragon con, gen Con, or even the right local college
or university campus on like a weekend, you could have
some real fun with this and maybe you get like
a local LARP group to come out with like bopper
swords or something like that. Again, you can make a
real day out of this and have some fun. But

(33:36):
when Dave pitched this idea, this is my real idea,
I'm thinking, I don't even have to think about this.
And I know you're thinking, oh, fuck, Mike's gonna talk
about Transformers again.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Fuck him. No, not exactly, Mike's gonna talk about RoboCop.
But you're right. But I'm thinking what goes well with RoboCop?
And I got to thinking.

Speaker 6 (33:58):
I'm sitting there looking at my blue of It, my
one from Arrow, and I remember looking at the tagline
the Future of law Enforcement, and I'm thinking.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
That's it. That's it.

Speaker 6 (34:10):
What is the future of law enforcement? So my double
feature would be called the Future of Law Enforcement? And
it's gonna look at two movies that both have elements
of satire, that both have ultraviolence and stoic lawmen, but
approach it from two different perspectives but are somewhat similar

(34:30):
at the same time. So my double feature I'm pitching
is RoboCop nineteen eighty seven and Dread twenty twelve.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
Okay, I was wondering which one you were going to pick.

Speaker 3 (34:47):
Yeah, I was waiting for Rotor rotr that really, really
bad RoboCop knockoff from Lake. I think it's like an
Italian from the eighties.

Speaker 6 (34:55):
Yeah, Like I decided Dread because I went back and
rewatched Dread recently, just because it's one of my comfort movies.
I watched it a lot during my time in the hospital,
and the more I go back and watch that movie,
the more I fall in love with it. Not just
from how beautifully paced it is, how well Carl Urban

(35:15):
really fits the Dread character, but I look at how
him and Peter Weller approach their characterizations, like they literally
embody these characters, and both of them have different aspects
of humanity. Peter Weller in Rubblecop is rediscovering his humanity
with his partner Anne Lewis, and in Dread with Judge Anderson,

(35:38):
he starts to loosen up because he should fail her.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
At the end of the movie, when.

Speaker 6 (35:43):
One of the Chief Justices come to buy and goes, well,
is she a pass or is she a fail? And
after she hands in her badge, Dread goes to the
Chief Justice She's a pass. And that was their day together.
And I like watching the camaraderie of them, both of
these people rediscovering their humanity, and I think that's important

(36:05):
because again, you look at the world of Delta City,
which is a crime ridden old Detroit it and you
know Clarence Bottiger and whatever, and you know him and Mama.
I'm gonna say, Mama would kick Clarence Bodicker's fucking ass.
But again, you get these hyper violent gangs that each
control their kind of territory. Each of them are kind

(36:27):
of flippant in their own ways. Clarence is all about
the acquisition of money, whereas Mama is very much in
drugs or his mama is very much about power and
displaying it.

Speaker 3 (36:39):
I respect, because I mean that's the one thing I
love about Lead a Heavy in that role is she
she's called Mama because I mean she acts like one.
And the problem is is that when you get on
her side of punishment, you're going to get the punishment,
the fact that they shoot them up with that drug
and then skin them and throw them over the balcony
like fuck me.

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Man.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
Oh, that's that introduction of her characters. Brutality is so good.

Speaker 6 (37:02):
Oh yeah, And it's different from Can You Fly Bobby
Like Bobby.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
Like it's so ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (37:09):
But I think doing those two movies and also look
at the look at their costumes very much inspired by
each other, despite the fact that Judge Dread came earlier
in the late nineteen seventies, RoboCop coming in the mid eighties,
but they both retained that helmeted law man look, and
the law is meant to be impartial and blind. But

(37:33):
these guys are learning the kind of nuances as RoboCop
has these four prime directives of serve the public or
protect the innocent, uphold the or serve the public trust,
protect the innocent, uphold the law, and then obviously.

Speaker 2 (37:48):
Director for it.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
Whereas Dread is the law is it doesn't matter what's
right or wrong. I am the law and when he
sees the Vey Grinton, Dread don't be here when I
get back. Otherwise it's three weeks in the isocubes for vagrancy.
And again, even in the background of Dread, there are

(38:11):
tons of references to the world of two thousand a
D and Megacity one. You're seeing ads for different wacky
products in RoboCop. You've got Nukam get them before they
get you another quality Aam by Blocker Brothers. Or here's
the series five Heart from Yamaha Suzuki.

Speaker 2 (38:30):
You pick your heart, your Heart yeah.

Speaker 6 (38:33):
And it's crazy, and these worlds are so exactly and
it's so similar, and even in the world's like, there's
so much between Delta City and Mega City one. They
would work together really really well. But would Dread respect
ROBO's authority? Probably not, because Robo is still at the

(38:54):
heart only human, as he would say in RoboCop two.
So I think that would be a really good double feature,
both cyberpunky, dystopian, satirical, black humor and ultraviolent from two
different directors, one very European, one very much not, but
still find a way to show what a future can

(39:16):
be with the law.

Speaker 2 (39:17):
Eventually learning to become more human. And that would be
my pitch for my double feature.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
Well, I like it too because one thing that I
immediately picked up on was you said the ultra violent aspect.
To keep in mind that the difference in the ultra violence,
because I mean, one could argue that Dread is a
way more violent movie and it didn't have any MPAA issues.
RoboCop had to be submitted several times, had an NC seventeen,
had an X and it was only I think maybe

(39:45):
about in the last fifteen years that we actually got
to see the director's cut of RoboCop might even be
a little longer than that. I think Criterion was the
one to put it out first. Yeah, and once you
see that director's cut of RoboCop, which has kind of
become the norm for anybody that's not watching it on
TV and whatnot, now, the violence is just so insane.
But compared to Dread, it's tame in that aspect. Yeah,

(40:05):
it's still got some instances today where it's like, oh no,
that's still pretty gruesome. But Dred had like really no
issues with the NPAA if I recall, and then not
to mention the fact too, that like that was kind
of a normal style of violence when Dred came out,
because I mean that was the same year, because you
have that whole thing of like did Raid come first
or did Dread come first? You know, did Raid knock
off Dread? Did Dread knock off the Raid? Like and

(40:28):
it's funny because like that was kind of the standard
of violence at that point. You could buy both of
those movies readily available.

Speaker 7 (40:33):
More and now back to your regularly scheduled program.

Speaker 6 (40:51):
Yeah, sorry, you guys kind of dropped out there for
a second, So remind me at forty two minutes, so
I will have to just I will just have to
take a look at that. But yeah, yeah, like that
was just Again, I think this works. I think you
could easily program this, and I would love to see
people show up in OCP.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Hell.

Speaker 6 (41:10):
You could dress up for this as a judge or
an OCP executive, and I think you could have a
real fun time.

Speaker 3 (41:18):
Or you could be the guy that robocups shot in
the dick. You know, we don't discriminate, but.

Speaker 6 (41:26):
Yeah, I think that would be a fantastic time because,
like you know, again, with me, it would have been
easy to do something like all right, Transformers nineteen eighty six,
Transformers two thousand and seven, something like that, or even
I don't know, I.

Speaker 4 (41:41):
Would say I would say the eighty Transformers animated with Transformers.

Speaker 6 (41:48):
One that could work too, Yeah, that could work because
obviously one hyper kids friendly.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
The birth of Optimist Prime.

Speaker 6 (41:56):
Actually, that would work, the Birth and Death of Optimist Prime.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
You could totally do that.

Speaker 6 (42:03):
That's morbid, Ken, I think I hate you, But that
works all right, So Ken, let's go to your double
feature pick.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
What are you gonna do?

Speaker 4 (42:13):
So I I this is like perfect for me, but
I've I juggled two possible ones, but the one that
I decided on is a idea of finding what was lost.

(42:33):
And I chose to anime features obviously because I'm an
animation nut uh and I wanted to I wanted to
cry hard, so I ended up choosing the anime features
Bell and Violet Evergarden the movie.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
So Bell is.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
The latest, if soon to be the last, of the
soon to be the second to last movie of Mamoo
Soda because Sosda is releasing a new film this year,
but Bell was the last film he put out in

(43:24):
twenty twenty. It came out in twenty twenty one here
in the States, and it is basically a proto Beauty
and the Beast story.

Speaker 1 (43:40):
Sort of, it's not really, and.

Speaker 4 (43:45):
It's about its main character, Suzu has gone and.

Speaker 7 (43:58):
I to.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
She had a major trauma with her mother dying and
she lost her her muse to sing basically, and then
she enters this digital world of you and she finally

(44:21):
finds her singing voice again, and it's all about her
coming to terms with not only why her mother did
what she did, but also finding her voice in the

(44:42):
real world versus her digital.

Speaker 6 (44:45):
One, and this is the one that you showed me.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
No, this is not one that I have shown you yet.

Speaker 1 (44:55):
This is this is one that I have been in touch.
Eventually I do want to show you.

Speaker 4 (45:03):
But and I also own four k's on of both
of these movies, because of course I do. Violet Evergard
in the movie I like to consider sort of as
an epilogue of the series of the same name. The
the only issue is that I think Violet Evergarden the

(45:28):
movie is a great epilogue that wasn't necessary, but god
dang is it great. And it is so the whole
thing with Violet Evergarden. Violet it was a tool of
this fictional war. In this fictional fantasy Europe be universe,

(45:52):
and they and she During the war, she falls in
love with hermander. However, she doesn't really realize that she
falls in love with her commander.

Speaker 1 (46:05):
She ends up.

Speaker 4 (46:08):
She ends up taking the entirety of the of the
series trying to figure out what her commander said meant
when he said I love you before she had to
abandon him on the battlefield. And another thing about violent,

(46:31):
she is a double amputee. She does not have her arms.
She lost her arms during a grenade right before the
event of leaving her commander. So she has these like
mechanical arms, and she decides after the war to start

(46:53):
becoming a auto memory doll, which is basically she this
this is early European kind of history where people would
write letters for others and she and that's what her
job is. She would she would type up people's letters
and send them out. And the beginning of Violet ever Garden,

(47:18):
the movie starts off with probably the most the most
member barries of remember this episode that gave you a
giant gut punch in the series. Yeah, we're doing that
as a wrap around story. We're connecting that as a
wrap around story. So you're already in tears, and then

(47:43):
you go into the past of the story of how
Violet found out that her commander is still fucking alive
and yeah, he's alive, and her journey to go find
him and bring him home and finally kind of tell him, look,

(48:07):
I under I finally understand what you meant.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
When you said I love you.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
And oh my gosh, and and that's just the that's
just the A plot. The B plot is involves a
young boy who is dying and decides the higher Violet
to give give his parent letters as well as his

(48:34):
younger brother letters before when he passes away, and that's
a whole nother emotional beat in and of itself. So
you're crying at that point, and then you're crying at
the other point where she's trying trying to finally reconnect
with the person that she loves, and it's just.

Speaker 6 (48:55):
Ah emotionally destroy during.

Speaker 4 (49:01):
His Yes, this is an emotionally destroying film, Violet. Evergarden's
emotionally destroying film. And that's not even and even without
the context of the show, this movie does it a
decent enough job to give you kind of context enough

(49:21):
where you are still emotionally invested. But if you watch
the series, you're even more emotionally invested.

Speaker 1 (49:29):
So it makes it just worse.

Speaker 6 (49:32):
I feel like your double feature needs to come with
a trigger warning and coupon's for free therapy.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
I would also say probably complimentary pack of tissues by
the second.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
Complimentary packet tissues.

Speaker 6 (49:47):
Emotional talents like will be available after the first feature.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
Holy shit, ken.

Speaker 4 (49:55):
Uh but yeah, I I it's one of those like
I needed to do this double feature just for me,
so I did it anyway, I am up this way.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Nothing wrong with.

Speaker 6 (50:08):
That, Yeah, one hundred percent. All right, So I guess, Dave,
what do you got in store?

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Bud?

Speaker 3 (50:13):
So naturally, in typical David fashion, I deep dive when
it comes to my double features and I and I
try to I try to catalog something program something that
is just up my expertise level, but also uh fun
for an audience in that regard, because you know, one
thing that I've said on the show before is I

(50:33):
love limit testing cinema. And I will admit that Independent
Shatoedema Shadow Cinema was a place where he showed a
lot of stuff that was was out there and and
violent and sexual and whatnot. So I mean it was
it was kind of that introduction to of like watching
those type of movies in theaters with the crowd and
seeing the reaction, but then on the flip side of that,
blowing people's mind with batshit movies. And that was kind

(50:56):
of where I wanted to go with mine. And that
is exactly where I went with mine for that matter.
And my double feature is entitled I eighty six to them,
and I eighty six them could mean multitude of things,
and that's the beauty of this, of this double feature
is that it does mean multiple things, the first one
being that both of these movies come from the wonderful

(51:17):
year of nineteen eighty six. And the reason I picked
nineteen eighty six in particular not just because both of
these movies came from that year. But let's take a
look at nineteen eighty six in regards to the movies
that were out of that year. We have The Wraith,
we have Cobra, we have Big Trouble in Little China,
Raw Deal, Crocodile, Dundee, Short Circuit, The Golden Child, The
Delta Course, Aliens, Three Amigos, Firewalker, No Mercy, Band of

(51:41):
the Hand, Murphy's Law, Never Too Young to Die, Blue
City FX, Wanted Dead or Alive. I have The Tiger
with Gary Busey, one of my all time papers that'll
probably come to this show at some point in some form.
As you can see, there is just a hodgepodge of
stuff because, in all honesty, the filmmakers didn't know what
audience is wanted, and they were just throwing everything at

(52:01):
the screen. Plus, this is a time where you had
the video market at a boom too, so these movies
also going directive video as well, was a great thing
is to market. But then I wanted the Deep Dive
quicker and I said, okay, so that's the eighties, that's
the eighty six action movies, you know, repertoire right there,
clearly with all those great movies like Cobra Iya, The

(52:22):
Tiger Short Circuit, like all those coming out, like obviously,
like you couldn't keep up with everything that was being released.
So I went and dove deeper into it, and I said, okay.
It just so happens that I just recently finished fredill
and Ray's bio, and in his bio he not only
talks about movies and his life and everything, but he
talks about the experience on them, and it shares stories

(52:43):
that have not been shared anywhere else. And that just
so happened to be on my first movie, which was
nineteen eighty six's Armed Response, directed by fredall and Ray,
starring David Carrodine, Lee Van Cleef, Freaking Ross Hagen, Dick
Warlow or Dick Miller.

Speaker 2 (52:59):
It is a bad.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
Shit action movie that is on the heels of a
movie called The Year the Dragon with Big U, and
it was basically a Hong Kong action thriller. So that's
what Fred Olenray did with Armed Response and Armed Response.
In regards to imdb' synopsie, says, one of Tanaka's underlingks
has stolen a rare statuette that he had planned to
use as a peace offering between the local Yakuzas and

(53:23):
Chinese tong. He hires two private investigators to exchange ransom
money to recover the statuette, but the trade goes bad
and Clay Roth is killed. This angers the Roth brothers
and father, all combat veterans. They all go after people
responsible for the crime. So basically what you have is
a family of cops. David Carrodine owns a bar where
his dad drinks every night. His brother works for a

(53:47):
private investigator and gets hired by this guy to go
get the statue. There's a huge shootout that occurs in
a desert and then they go to work. And when
I say eighty six to them, that is because these
movies also have a high body out, which Armed Response does.
And I'll talk about both movies in more a little
bit more detail in just a second. As we get
to the second movie, I was like, okay, so we

(54:08):
start with Armed Response batshit action movie. That is it
balls to the wall, like literally the ending of Armed Response,
Michael Berryman drives a car through a bar and it
ends in a shootout in the bar with his fight
as well. Okay, So I was like, okay, so we've
started with batshit. Can I get any crazier with that?
Because one thing to keep in mind with the second

(54:28):
feature is you got to keep your audience going. You know,
it could be late, this could be a midnight double feature,
who knows, So you gotta keep your audience going. And
the beauty of Armed Response is it's eighty six minutes.
So then I was like, okay, could I get something
less than eighty six minutes? And it's also like more
batshit than Armed Response? And the answer is yes I
can because Lo and Behold. During Quarantine, a friend introduced

(54:50):
me to a Hong Kong Category three action horror hybrid
whatever you want to call it, called The Seventh Curse.
And The Seventh Curse is a film directed by Lamnai Choi.
And this is a movie that has Chow Yung fat
in it, Chin Suey Hoy, Maggie Chung Dick. Why this
is a batshit balls to the Wall action horror movie.

(55:14):
That was the combination of them being like, Hey, what
if we took Raiders of the Lost Ark Evil Dead
Aliens and coupled that together with a martial arts movie.
You think that'd be cool.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
The Seventh Wars.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
The Seventh Curse opens with a die Hard like assault
on a building where they're trying to save hostages. There's
a shootout. Then we cut to this professor that comes
home one day and finds that he has these warriors
waiting for him, these spirits and everything, and they're telling
him that they have to go to journey. They go
on this journey to study. They end up angering this
voodoo cult that one of the guys looks exactly like

(55:49):
Gene Simmons basically, but also his dubbing in the movie
is hilarious. He also has this fetus demon creature that
eats inside of your stomach and goes through you. And
this this creature ends up fighting a knockoff xenomorph that
can fly in all lack at the end of the movie.
I mean, the Seventh Curse is the epitome of batshit.

(56:12):
It is a movie that you necessarily don't have to
have the plot. You don't even have to have the subtitles.
You are watching things occur in this movie that are
just insane in bad taste, but you can't look away.
The same thing with Armed Response. So I eighty six
them not only stand for the fact that both movies
came from nineteen eighty six, they are eighty six minutes
in under and so many deaths in these movies, so

(56:34):
much violence, so much blood. Armed Response probably a little
more tame on the blood aspect, but Seventh Curse leaves
nothing through the imagination. There's a plot point where this
village child, this village that has their children is stolen,
and we see these children being put into a stone
grinder because children's blood is what makes this demon come
back to life. So there's an attack of a skeleton
on these guys that are tied to post at one point.

(56:56):
There's martial arts jumping from wall to wall at one
point as they're trying to climb through the cave to
get something that you kind of find out what it
is before the movie's over, but you kind of just
accept it. The Seventh Curse is absolutely mind blowing. Just
became available thanks to vinegar syndrome on a beautiful four
K transfer release that I'm so happy to have because

(57:17):
it was available from eighty eight Films for a bit
and it was on Prime, which is how we watched
it in a watch party like during Quarantine. And my
buddy Matt, who showed me this movie, like even told
me he's like, you're not gonna believe this movie, but
you're gonna love this movie. And I was like, yeah, Matt,
sure or whatever. And by the end of it, I
was just like, I must own this movie. I must
show other people this movie. And I just so happens

(57:38):
that about a couple weeks ago, I have a fucked
up movie Monday Nights with my friend Courtney that we
started years ago, and I showed her this evend. She
just was mind blown at the insanity of this movie.
And I mean there's gun violence, there's fist to fist action,
there's blades, there's creatures, there's monsters. There's demons of all

(57:59):
shapes and sizes, their skeletons attacking you. There's skin melting off.
I mean, this movie is absolutely insane. And that is
exactly why I went with Armed Response as the precursor,
because it's a buddy cop movie. That's all families, and
if you've ever wanted to see a scene where David
Carrodine's wife tries to reason with him to not go
out and be in his outlaw ways while he goes

(58:20):
around the room putting a desert eagle together piece by
piece that he has hidden in a closet in a
shoe box under the bed. Armed Response is absolutely out
of its fucking mind, just as Seventh Curses. But Armed
Response is also a lot of fun because it unfortunately
is not like super readily available. You can't find it
streaming anywhere except unless you want to go to a

(58:40):
website that has the initials why they have a full
copy up there, which is actually how I watched it
recently for the first time. It is an absolute shame
that this movie's not more widely available because Armed Response
is a buddy cop movie. It's a family of cop movies.
It's a Hong Kong crime movie. So you've got both
the aspects of Hong Kong in both movies that I've chosen,

(59:02):
But then just the action, the body count, the absolute
batshitness of both movies stands for the reasoning of why
they are called I eighty six.

Speaker 6 (59:12):
Them Wow, those sound fucking crazy and that's wow.

Speaker 1 (59:20):
Seventh seventh curses on the Internet archive.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
Oh it is?

Speaker 3 (59:25):
What's the run time on it? Just out of curiosity?

Speaker 1 (59:28):
There are two different versions, one version.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
Eighty one minutes and one eighty three I'm guessing probably.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
Yeah, wow, yeah that's three and yeah oh yeah that uh.
The other one that I found is not the correct one,
not even close.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (59:50):
Wour response is currently on is on YouTube and if
that's on Internet archive. Both those movies I cannot recommend enough.
And if you can watch them back to back, you're
in for a fucking treat.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
That sound kind of fun.

Speaker 6 (01:00:00):
I may actually have to find some time out for
that as you begin to close out the show. I
did have some additional I don't know how they connect yet,
but I was thinking about this one is a movie
that Ken showed me within the last year or so.
I think it was called House, I want to say,

(01:00:21):
and there was an American movie Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:25):
What the fuck, how naughty?

Speaker 6 (01:00:30):
And I got to thinking about watching that and pairing
that with the American horror movie of the same name,
So House, House House, that's what I would call that
double feature. And then this one might seem like a
little bit weird, but I just thought about it. If
you could pair trancers from nineteen eighty six or eighty four,

(01:00:50):
I can't remember which time cop both have time traveling cops,
Tim Thomerson and J. C.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Thed So again, just spit bawling ideas.

Speaker 6 (01:01:01):
But this will become a reoccurring theme on the show,
where whoever's on the show, you get the pitch too
quick double features, and that'll be your watch homework, so
to speak. And maybe we should put these together on
like letterbox or something like how to make a list.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
I'm still trying to figure out how to make lists.

Speaker 6 (01:01:18):
Actually, recently I wrote into Dave's podcast with that he
does with hen do you even movie? And I literally
sat there for like an hour and a half, went
back to your website and added every single movie to
a watch list, and then I found out you already
did it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:36):
I was like, yeah, I felt so quiet.

Speaker 3 (01:01:38):
So I can't know if I told you or not.
Why I do that mean a because it's it's a
cool thing to have, But be the reason I do
it is because we don't release the episode's numbered, But
I do it just so I can keep track of
where we are. So when I do the art for
the episode that comes out on Monday as the teaser
and then Tuesday is the announcement to have the numbers
and everything, I just kept them in a list because

(01:02:00):
it was easy to do a NU miracle that way,
so I'd be like, wait, which number is this and
then write it in. So that's why originally I did it,
and also just to keep record, but yeah, I appreciate you.

Speaker 6 (01:02:07):
Doing that though, yeah, because I was like, this is
really cool. And again it just and the fact that
letterbox keeps track of what I've watched and that like
kind of mirrors it and everything. So my goal is
to eventually watch everything you guys have ever done, because
some of it I've seen, some of it I haven't.
And I've recently found out from my wife my late
one of my late father in law's favorite movies was

(01:02:32):
Dutch and I know that's a very important movie to
you and Hen so I guess it is right. I
need to sit down and watch that sometime before American
or Canadian Thanksgiving, so I will promise to get around
to that later on this year. So awa, guys, those
are our picture A double features here on RAM have
you guys tried some of these, What do you think?

(01:02:53):
What are some of your double feature picks that maybe
us here at twig could take a look at.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
So feedback this week in geek dot net.

Speaker 6 (01:03:01):
You can find us on Blue Sky primarily, where we
are now posting almost all exclusively. If we do end
up posting on Acts, it's mostly due to auto posting
or I never post anything personal over on X anymorec
aus fuck elon, but I do post musings over on
blue Sky. So Birdman Gwelph is where you can find
me over there. Ken, what is your Blue Sky handle?

Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
I'm at Kenreels dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
And Dave, you're primarily on Instagram and letterbox.

Speaker 3 (01:03:28):
Right, correct, Yeah, you can find me on letterbox that
David SWMA, which the answer David's Watching Movies Again. And
you can find me on Instagram at David's watching Movies Again,
which is primarily the account that I use for do
You Even Movie? But do you Movie has its own
page on there as well.

Speaker 6 (01:03:43):
All right, there, guys, So that's gonna do it for us.
So from the Paris of Ohio we have been David
Denier the Garden.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
State Ken from this anime and I've been Mike.

Speaker 6 (01:03:53):
The Birdman saying, be excellent to each other. We'll catch
you guys again next time, right here on This Week
in Geek dot Net.

Speaker 7 (01:04:00):
At no point in your rambling incoherent response were you
even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought.

Speaker 10 (01:04:10):
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