3 Guys Before The Game - BYU Game Recap (Episode 664)

Friday night in Provo was wet, long, and ultimately disappointing for the Mountaineers.

West Virginia’s 38-24 loss to BYU sends the team into its bye week at 2-4 overall and 0-3 in Big 12 play. The much-needed break comes at the right time — a chance for both a physical and mental reset before the final six games of the season.

In this episode, the “Guys” dissect what went wrong against the Cougars, examine where improvement must come from, and discuss realistic expectations for the stretch run.

Listener questions and comments wrap up the show with another round of Textual Healing.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Welcome in everybody. It's time for three guys before the game.
This is our post BYU game review. We're all assembled.
Did you just get here? Judics get home? Just got back. Yeah,
it's a long walk. It was a long walk.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
It's a long flight.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
That was a long night for a bunch of different reasons.
We're gonna get into those and more coming up. This
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in a little bit. Brad has dissected the numbers, probably
has a few more refined numbers than normal. Normally we record,
you know, twelve ish hours after the game's over, but
we are doing this Sunday morning. So have those numbers

(01:46):
kind of like matured a little bit?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
You say, yeah, they came home, but some a little bit,
little more sure.

Speaker 1 (01:50):
Okay, that's cool, all right. So West Virginia completes the
half point of the season with a two and four
overall record after a thirty eight to twenty loss to
the Cougars of BYU. West Virginia went into the game
it's first ever in provo, as a twenty ish point underdog,
and they end up losing by a score thirty eight

(02:12):
to twenty four. The Mountaineers trailed fourteen zip at the
end of the first quarter. They were down twenty eight
to ten at the break. West Virginia does outscore BYU
fourteen to ten in the second half, but let's face it,
for all intent and purposes, the game was decided in
the opening half. We'll get into the numbers and more
textual healing is coming up. A lot of people made

(02:35):
the trip to Provo. There was a contingent of mountaineer fans,
and a lot of them have written in about the
experience that they had. We'll get into those in textual healing.
If you're a regular of this show, you know, things
begin obviously with hobbies obvious observations. By the way, that

(02:55):
is a very nice combo there. That shirt, that white
with that star City blue over that old school logo.
It's pretty nice. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Brad gave me that from Final Looking film.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Yeah, it was just a delivery mechanism credit to Phil Nils.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
But I did get it.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
I mean just stuff. My swag just shows up, like
Brad just show we show up somewhere and Brad just
throws me short here wear this, Okay, I got it.
I like it. I'll were today for that reason.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Sure, yeah, absolutely, all right. So obviously what do we know?

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Uh, well, first, it's rare that a w WU football
game takes two days to play. It's like a cricket match,
you know. Where it like goes on for days at
a time.

Speaker 1 (03:33):
It did start Friday, nice, and it's Saturday.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Morning, Nurday morning. I stayed up, watched and listened to you, Tony.
You had great energy right to the end. I was
sagging a little bit there near the end, but I
stayed with it till the end. You know, Brad, two
words that come to mind now are halfway point of
this season for West Virginia. One is inconsistent and the
other is limited. The Mountaineers are limited on what they
can do. You know that now six games in they

(03:58):
are limited, and I know you'll get into the staff
that back that up. And then inconsistent, inconsistent defensive play.
We thought after a couple of games this defense was
going to be a strength, and now we see some
inconsistency over the last couple of games. Gave it a
lot of big plays against BYU. So just inconsistent. And
you know, West Virginia is just not offensive. We A
is not capable of putting together big drives. Just can't

(04:20):
do it. They need short fields, they need things to
go their way. W when you can't convert on the
one foot line, that to me was very revealing not
that we needed a reveal of that of that offensive line.
We know the offensive line struggles, but when you can't
get in from the one foot line, you don't deserve
to get a touchdown. And I know that maybe some

(04:43):
people will say, well, why did you run it up
the middle?

Speaker 1 (04:45):
Why do you run it?

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Well, Don Egland used to say, that's the shortest distance
to the end zone, but you couldn't get you couldn't
get a foot. And had had the game not wrapped
up early Saturday morning and been Friday and eightes, I
think bear Bachmeyer might have gotten more national attention. Now,
maybe it's opponent adjusted, Brad, but he was solid three

(05:07):
point fifty one. That was a solid game by him.
But nationally, the fact that it ended it's Saturday morning
and the national people were getting ready for Saturday, his
performance probably fell through the national cracks a little bit
to be determined. How good BYU is. They look pretty good,

(05:27):
but that also is opponent adjusted. Their opponent their record
needs to be opponent adjusted. But now they get into
the meat of their schedule at Arizona rivalry game against
Utah Iowa State and then at Texas Tech. So we'll
see how good BYU really is you think they got
they got some losses coming. Not sure what to think
about Khalil Wilkins. Props to him for going out there

(05:50):
as a red shirt freshman in a one of the
toughest environments you have and starting in that game and
playing in that game and running the ball twenty three times?
How many twenty three took twenty three? In Pat White's
final year with Rich Rodriguez his junior year, Pat White
average fifteen carries a game. Wilkins goes out and runs
the ball twenty three times. I mean, was he He's

(06:12):
got to be in ane bath today? And I know
that's because Rich wants to run the quarterback. And also
how effective are you running the football? And Kohali ol
Wilkins not very effective passing the football. So that was
their best play, one of their best plays offensively. But
man twenty three times. Excellent Time for the week off.

(06:32):
UCF has to go to Cincinnati this Saturday. In Cincinnati,
that's going to be a tough lift for UCF. And
then you go to UCF, So you know, I can
find We'll get into UCF. I know next week, but
I could find despite everything I just said, I could
find a couple of reasons, and I think we'll have
some reasons to be reasonably optimistic going to UCF. But

(06:56):
we'll see. So those are my obviously. Oh one other thing.
Remember last week I said that a team that is
a more than three touchdown underdog usually doesn't win.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
You did say that, obviously.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
You said that, Yeah, yeah, might have watched the Penn
State UCLA game yesterday. I had a little bit of
a situation, a little bit of the situation here, So
it does happen, although it is rare. Those are my
obvious observations.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Well done, thank you, well done.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
So bad any feedback on this, I agree with.

Speaker 1 (07:23):
I agree with everything he said. It's obviously their obvious point.

Speaker 3 (07:27):
It continues to be the defense that surprises me, guys,
because I think they're listen, this program wasn't built on
moral victories.

Speaker 1 (07:33):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (07:34):
But I think we've arrived at the point where you've
got to try and pull some bright spots out of this.
This offense is limited. I think that's a good way
to say. It probably remains limited given the totality of
the group. But Wilkin showed you some stuff. I mean,
Rich's offense has to have a quarterback that can run
the ball. Wilkin showed you that at times running back
no Tie Edwards again. I mean, I know he played,

(07:55):
but it was limited. You could tell he wasn't the
same tie Edwards that hurts you significant. Scotty Fox came
in and threw it extremely well. So quarterback position I
didn't think was bad at all. We've come to expect
that from the offense. It's just struggling and it's going
to struggle this defense. So guys, I thought this was
a pretty good defense. I realized it wasn't the ninety
six defense, but given what it had done early, I

(08:18):
thought you had a chance defensively, and man, it is
the way to I get in some of these numbers
on this The defense just continues to not even remotely
be where they need to be.

Speaker 1 (08:28):
My partner in crime, Dwight Wallace, who's watched a lot
of football through the years, thinks a lot of it
is okay. Once other coaches see what you're doing, and
number one, what you're doing, and then who is doing it,
they start to game plan for people that have weaknesses.

(08:48):
And now what you're seeing is guys have been idd weaknesses,
have been idd and now they're being exploited well.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
And you've gotten really no pass rush over the last
two games. And it's two guys, with all due respect
to Damon Bachmeier, have been running quarterbacks more than throwing
and they have just torched you through the air. To me,
that's the biggest concern of all the concerns this program
has right now.

Speaker 1 (09:09):
It's that.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
It's that teams have done things that they don't normally
do to attack you and have done it with great success.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
That's a concern moving forward, I read.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
I think that's indicative of a well coached and a
pretty good team where even though they want to run
the ball more than just throw it all over the place,
but they see your weakness and they say we're good
enough to exploit that weakness, which is what they did. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
I did like Fred Perry's play though. Fred Perry, I
mean he brings it. He plays to your point. Obviously,
if a team ever needed an off week, it is
this week right now. And I think that for two
fold reasons. Twofold reason, two fold reasons. For two reasons.
You know, take the fold out one. Physically, they've banged

(09:54):
battered As you said, I mean Khalil Wilkins probably needs
two weeks just to walk straight again. Right, took a
took a beating, and so many other guys did one
so physically and mentally, this is much needed. On the
other side of it, from an x's and O standpoint,
a perfect opportunity for this coaching staff to do a

(10:15):
very detailed analyzation saying to itself, Okay, this is the
first six. Here come the next six. Where are we going?
Where are we building toward? We have now seen literally
all five of the quarterbacks, and you could make the
case that the two best quarterbacks from a visual standpoint

(10:38):
are Khalil Wilkins and Scottie Fox.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
The ones are the ones that are left as well,
and I agree with you those those two have done
done the most.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
So now as a staff, you're looking at it and go, okay,
if we're gonna what are we going to do here?
Are we going to bop these both of these guys
in there and and do a two man rotation going forward?
See how that probably is a good case. Ty Edwards,
you would think would be healthy at least one hundred percent,
hopefully at one hundred percent. By that time, we did

(11:10):
not see sincere Bowers in the game on Friday night,
can you get him up to speed so that you
can start at least the second half with the two
quarterbacks and the two running backs in addition to Dior
Hubbard and at least say, okay, we've got three running backs, right,
Clay Ash is there as well, so you could have
four your receiver position at this point, I mean, the

(11:31):
only guy that is id'd himself truly is Cam Vaughan.
You can't get the ball enough to him. I mean,
at this point, he's the option and the other guys
justin Smith Brown has given you flashes, right, Grayson Barnes
has become quiet her than he was in the first
couple of games. Can we find a way to get
him back into a regular mix of getting that ball

(11:53):
to him and then on the defensive side. I think
you've got to do basically the same kind of evaluation.
And you know everyone always says, well, these guys that
are on the field, you know aren't doing it well,
put someone else in. Again, the message is that's the
best that there is. That's the best that there is.
If there was anyone that would be better, then they

(12:16):
would put them in. However, some guys are playing themselves
out of the rotation, and if you're not and it
starts to become an equal, then the other people are
going to get their chance. So that's where we are.
It's going to be an interesting next six games. Like you,

(12:36):
I think there are some opportunities for this team to
win again. And now the question is what's this next
six going to be. Well, we look back on the
next six games of year number one with coach Rod
as Hey in the second half of the season, you
know that you could see some signs, you could see
some flickers that they were coming along.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
That's what you're hoping, well, because think about what you're asking.
You just said that the two quarterbacks that are performing
the best, and they don't have any game time, right,
I mean that was that was Wilkins's most significant time
in his college career here. So again the expectation that
you'll improve, that's what you're watching on that offensive side
is as guys get healthy, can can Wilkins continue to
show you some progress there if that passing game comes

(13:15):
along just a little bit. And the numbers actually weren't bad.
I know there were some misses there, but when you
talk about expected points added in some successful plays. They
did have some successful pass plays, could have had another one.
The one time you get to Cam Vaughn with nobody
around him, might have been two open.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
Yeah, right, it might have been too open.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
Couldn't hold onto the football there, That would have been
another touchdown. So how will that progress over the next
few games?

Speaker 1 (13:35):
Yeah, when you're having this kind of bad situation. The
Cam Vaughn thing was kind of a microcosm of the
entire game and the entire season to this point. You
drop a dime and it pops up in the air
and they it's like seriously and turns into a pick
exactly exactly.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
But you know, but Wilkins' willingness to run like a
tailback or a fullback showed a lot of gud.

Speaker 1 (14:00):
He's he's tough, he passes, he passes requirement number one,
and that is you gotta be tough, and he is.
He stuck his face in there, and that's all you
can ask for. And you just hope, you know, on
the learning curve now he can take a ton of
what he's seeing of himself on film as you're going
to the next game.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
You just don't have enough. A lot of sports is
about imposing your will, right and you just are you
gonna impose your will? Are they going to impose their will?
And you just don't have enough collectively to impose your
will Brad on other teams?

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Well yeah, right, And along with that, there's there's no
identity right now because you can't do what you want
to do right right right, just so you're trying to
come up with things that you can do to outsmart
the defense there because you can't just line up and
do what you want to do, and that that always
makes it tough. I don't care who you are, who's coaching,
what the deal is. If you can't line up and
do what you want to do, you're gonna have You're
gonna have a tough time. And that's where this this

(14:55):
offense is right now in particular.

Speaker 1 (14:58):
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Speaker 3 (16:48):
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Speaker 1 (16:58):
Kind of like the time change too. I mean that's
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Speaker 2 (17:01):
Hope? When is it?

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Wow? November isn't it?

Speaker 2 (17:04):
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Speaker 2 (17:09):
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Speaker 1 (17:14):
We've done some stuff, We've been through some places. Let's
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you saw it, you analyzed it. You do you have
not heard yet what the computers have said about West
Virginia and b YU. Speaking of West Virginia b YU,

(17:37):
and we'll talk more about this later. Before the football game,
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what happened with that time? Nationally ranked well, Jen Greeney
lined up and UH nationally ranked BYU went home with
a went home with an l big time win, massive, massively.
What was the first ever.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Coal rush game for the volleyball team.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Crowd all black. Well, we're going to be with Jen
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(18:43):
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Speaker 3 (18:44):
This just won't be pleasant. It's just not pleasant. So well,
we'll stumble through as best we can. Let's start, as
we always do, with a review from the preview episode,
and we led guys talking about Bear Brockmeyer and Hopey
you mentioned his unbelievable throwing performance. But we did say
in there, if you looked at the underlying numbers that

(19:04):
a turnover was likely mm hm was likely turnover worthy plays,
and you got two of them. You got the pick
and then you got that great play by Fred Perry
to get the the forced fumble there to set you
up in short, short yardage.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
And you've ever seen that, seen that before? For wild
that was a play.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
It's like a basketball.

Speaker 1 (19:22):
He got a deflection, he looked like he looked like
he was out there like Honor Huff getting his hand
out there in the passing lane.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
And you know what that was. That was an athlete,
that was an athletic place what that was.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
It's just it's unfortunate that West Virginia is able to
do that, get the two plays turnover wise that you
hoped you could get from Bachmeyer, and the numbers told
you you probably would, and you still can't get the win.
That's if I'm not mistaken in that the second game
now of your of your four losses, where you're plus
two and turnover margin and you still lost, say what
happened in Ohio? You so some of the stuff we
normally say, That just shows how limited you've been. Some

(19:56):
of the stuff we normally say if you do this
and turnovers number one, upsets likely follow, and they just
haven't in two of these road games. Here we also
mentioned how Byu had done a great job of managing
Bachmeyer where they threw a lot underneath and let the
wide receivers do the work. Similar in this game. Similar
in this game, I mean sixty four percent of his
passing yards were yards after catch. He had time to throw,

(20:19):
made some big plays those receivers took off and just
had had all day to run back there. We talked
about his success in the middle of the field, that
you had to contain him down the middle. They liked
to attack there. West Virginia couldn't eleven of fourteen to
the middle of the field for two hundred and eighty
one yards passing. Again, I told you it wouldn't be pleasant.
Just bear with us here. As we mentioned, guys, one

(20:41):
last thing on Blackmeyer. He had six hundred and ninety
eight yards passing through the first four games, went for
three point fifty one in this one, so nearly fifty
percent of what his previous total had been. And like
I said, hop, I think that's the most alarming part
of this is two guys that don't want to throw
it first have thrown it first against you with great,
high level success. So the defense has a lot of

(21:01):
work to do here. Guys, you mentioned the huge explosives
in the first half. That was that was stunning. Finished
the game at eight point three yards per play, So
you're just not going to win many games when you
do that. Sixty seven percent of BYU's plays in the
first half came in West Virginia territory. Ooh again, winning
recipe for BYU not for WVU three of four BYU

(21:21):
touchdown drives in the first half. How about this, guys,
one play, three plays, two plays. They had twenty one
points off six plays. So explosives really told the story
on the BYU side of things. And how do we
say that all the time. If you're a limited offense,
you've got to be the one with the explosives because
it's hard to march down the field. BYU is the opposite.
They hit you with some big plays there. BYU ended

(21:45):
the game with a fifty five percent success rate on
all of their plays overall offensively for the game. That
was up from their forty nine percent on the year,
which was already twenty second nationally. Their first down efficiency
was really good. Guys average nine point seven yards per
first I think that might help. Nine point seven a

(22:06):
huge trunk.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
It was, Yeah, there's no doubt it was.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
They picked up three hundred and ten total yards on
thirty two first down place. So if you want to
just compare those numbers, West Virginia was four point eight
on first down, which isn't terrible necessarily sets you up
on a second and five for the most part. But
BYU was certainly much more explosive as we've As we've
talked about BYU nine of thirteen passing it for two

(22:30):
twenty on first down, seventeen yards per passing attempt on
first down. West Virginia again not bad, five of nine
for eighty two yards when they threw it on first
down nine point one yards per attempt. Wester Rding's rushing game,
as we mentioned, was bottled up. Khalil Wilkins did a
nice job with overall numbers, but yards per carry he
had a tough time breaking through for any explosives on

(22:52):
third downs. In particular, West Virginia ran it eleven times
for just twenty seven yards two and a half per
carry on third down. Overall rushing success rate West Virginia
is only at thirty two percent. BYU didn't put up
great rushing numbers, didn't need to. They still were more
successful on a play by play basis forty eight percent
success when they ran it. So line of scrimmage controlled

(23:15):
on the BYU side of things seven straight quarters without
forcing a punt guys, and the first BYU punt came
with a minute fifty seven in the fourth quarter. So
West Virginia almost went two complete games without forcing a
punt continues to surprise me.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
Hunters continued to boycott West Virginia.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
If you I've mentioned the last two quarterbacks a couple
of times now, just to put a rap on that,
some final numbers. Nearly six hundred yards passing between the
two five eighty eight thirty nine of fifty one combined
for seventy six completion for say that again.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
What the two.

Speaker 3 (23:50):
Opposing code quarterbacks the last two weeks, Dan Pierre and
Bachmeyer thirty nine to fifty one combined seventy six percent
completion percentage. It's pushed West Virginia now to the worst
defensive grade in the Big Twelve. So again, say it
a lot. Sometimes you don't need the numbers to back
up what you saw, but those are pretty alarming numbers.
Here's another one that just if you would have told

(24:10):
me this before the game, I would have said, West
Virginia's in a position here to pull the upset BYU.
Came into this game seventh nationally in field position. They
were plus eight on the season. West Virginia finishes this
game plus ten. That's the number you want.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
You win it.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
Ninety some percent of the time when you hit that number,
so Westernia got the turnovers, which led to those short fields,
which led to some points for West Virginia, But you
just didn't do anything outside of.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
That average starting point for West Virginia was it's thirty
nine in the BYU was its twenty nine nine. He said.
So earlier this season we had the other aberration on
that right. We won a game.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
We were minus fourteen field position and you beat pitt
So it's probably one of those. You would say, the
numbers oftentimes even out you become what you are. So
you're one and one in that category. But the turnovers
plus the field position advantage while on the road, if
you had given me those ahead of time, I would
have said you were going to be in the mix
for this game, and certainly you were not. The number

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that continues to jump back to back weeks is this
available yards. Utah put up at just a silly eighty
six percent of the available yards they gained BYU another
massive number, sixty seven percent of the available yards BYU
got them second highest market of the season, and just
like last week, it's one of the highest of the
last last few years. So defense just continues to struggle

(25:31):
Over the last couple of weeks west Fordain's rushing game. Again,
even though I thought there were some positives and you
were able to do some things, in particular with Khalil Wilkins,
you still ended with a negative EPR per rush for
the game. And that's just guys in riches offense, you
just can't have that. There's going to be a negative

(25:52):
expected points added on rushing rushing attempts. That's just not positive.
But you were positive EPA per Dry. Now, Scotty Fox's
numbers helped this sum. He came in and threw it
extremely well, including that great touchdown pass. But Wilkins had
a positive EPA on pass plays as well.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
So that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
The results maybe didn't look like it, but there were
some positives in the pass game. Can that continue to
get better? And again, the definition of EPA is the
difference between the expected points a team will score before
and after the play, and it considers factors like what
down it is, what the distance is, the field position,
and time remaining. So maybe a little positive to take

(26:32):
out of that from the passing game side, maybe that
comes along a little bit better. And those are the
bulk of the numbers from the BYU game.

Speaker 1 (26:42):
You're not giving any individual grades simply because nothing there.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
I mean, we can talk about a couple, but I
can give you the highest ranked defensive grades, but I
don't know that it matters much given what we just said.
We can talk about offensive grades. This one surprised me
a little bit. Good to see this. Tyke's Crawford was
one of your highest graded offensive foot performers over at
the right tackle. So we keep continuing to say it
was Agbo in the right tackle position last week, it

(27:09):
was Crawford this week. Is there just little baby steps
there on that offensive line where individual guys are performing
a little bit better, That's the hope moving forward. Scotti
Fox came in and it didn't have a ton of snaps,
but graded out extremely well in his short time in
the game.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
If you looked at the final numbers and you said
you have to give me some positives, you have to
give me some positives. I would think one thing that
was an issue earlier was penalties, and they go on
the road where you could get jumpy right, just three
penalties and you didn't fumble it, but you did throw
two interceptions. You did win. As Brad said, the turnover battle,

(27:47):
and normally when you do do that, you normally come
out on the more positive side.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
And that's why let me stop you right there for
just a second, because I will get the defense credit
on that. You're fourteenth nationally in takeaways, so from that perspective,
that little niche part of the defense, that's one of
the areas of expectation this year that it was going
to get better in that and they've done that. So
they have taken the ball away. You've just given up
too many on the offensive side. You're one twenty fifth

(28:13):
in the nation in turnovers loss, so you haven't protected
it as well as you need to. But defensively, you
have been getting the ball back.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
For the offense. You finished up with one hundred and
fifty six run yards. That's three point three yards per carry,
which obviously isn't the number that you need, but you
did get up to eighteen first downs and that number
that you're trying to get to is twenty five first downs.
They being b why you got twenty two first downs?
And again this is the this is the absolute minutia

(28:43):
of these numbers. Red zone scoring B Why you got
in there seven times? Went five to seven West Virginia
only got into the red zone three times and they
went two out of three in the red zone.

Speaker 2 (28:55):
Here would be a good stat Brad, and that is
points off turnovers teen to seven. I mean for the season. Yeah,
because you're on the plus Well, I don't if you're
in a plus out, but you're you're making turnovers as
you said. But I'm just going.

Speaker 3 (29:09):
By that zero against Ohio. You So that was the
other one that stood out, right, you have three picks
and couldn't you couldn't get it in the end zone.

Speaker 2 (29:17):
So that gets back to your offensive struggles as you
get a turnover and you can't capitalize.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Right.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Yeah, in West Virginia, if you if you want to
look at I've been focusing on the West virgea's defensive
performance and available yards just got forty six percent of
the available yards there. So BYU, even though it was
faced with short fields more often than not, still did
a better job of slowing down this West Virginia offense.

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Speaker 2 (32:09):
When did you get back? It's a late trip. Then
when did so? Serious question, when did you get back?
When did when did you travel with the team? When
did you all get back?

Speaker 1 (32:20):
Eleven am? What day? Saturday morning?

Speaker 2 (32:25):
How long was the flight?

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Not that long? Three hours and fifteen minutes?

Speaker 2 (32:31):
Okay, so are you going to text the guy at Utah?

Speaker 1 (32:33):
And yeah I should. Hey, buddy, I just flew from
Salt Lake to Clarksburg in three hours and fifteen minutes?
He said, four hours? What was he doing? Which way
did his pilot go? Yeah, we had some delays.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Oh, oh you had delays?

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, we had delays. We had delays
on the way back. Oh man, that's we'll just leave
it at that. We were on the plane for six hours,
and we flew for three fifteen.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Oh no, but anyway, sitting on that oh, after all
loss and sitting on the plane for two hours not ideal.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
That's not ideal.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
Anything break out, I'd be surprising.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
No, No, it's totally Everyone was just like totally quiet.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
You sat on the plane for two hours.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
No, it's sat on the plane for longer than that.
We flew for three fifteen. We were on the plane
for six that's two forty five of sitting anyway. Ouch
and like and Brad, you know this, Like when you win,
it could have been twenty hours. Everyone's like, yeah, whatever,
we'll get back out an off week.

Speaker 3 (33:30):
When you don't, it's like it feels like you sat
there for twelve hours.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Thank you, yeah, thank you. So good time to have
an off week for a bunch of different reasons. And
we'll get we'll get it all straightened out and off
we go. Another road game coming up, yep. I'll bet
you'll get a huge Mountaineer can Last time we went
down to UCF, huge Mountaineer fan base turned out there.
So it was uh, it was good. Hey, you CF

(33:56):
team should have had should have had Kansas.

Speaker 3 (33:57):
They had him on the ropes, couldn't punch it in
from inside the five there, hop that would have tied
it or given him a chance to go for two
to win it late. And they did that with their
backup quarterback, Cam Fancher, formerly a Marshall right in. Their
starter got hurt. You see, it's got some speed. We'll
talk about that next week. Their speed scarcy in space
a little.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Bit, but we'll get into that How's How's about? How's
about Cincinnata? You talked about the surprise team in the league.
Cincinnata said the Iowa State? Oh is that right? You're
gonna do? What? Come on in here a little bit,
my gott Are they physical?

Speaker 3 (34:28):
About as big a lock on the day as there
was Cincinnati beating Iowa State. Do you see that running
back from home favorite playing a ranked team that was
the underdog on the road.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah. Do you see that running back from from Cincinnati
hit that kid from iow lying safetier linebacker? Linebacker? Is
he a safety? He came up to hit this ring.
His running back lowered his head and my man from
Iowa State went absolutely cartoon crumbled.

Speaker 3 (34:56):
They're off to a great start. Sowsby's playing extremely well
for him early limitting turnover.

Speaker 1 (35:00):
He's a punter Cincinnati quarterback. Did you see the punter? No,
you haven't seen him. Where's the shortest pants ever seen?
Kind of has like mailman pants on. Well, I can't
get in the way of the knees neflex mees totally exposed,
basically covers half of his quad. Just wear short like
hot pants. Remember hoppying in the seventies. Cincinnati punter wears

(35:24):
hot pants.

Speaker 2 (35:25):
Pretty soon, it's gonna be guys playing just with the
jock strap.

Speaker 1 (35:28):
Of yeah, getting closer, getting closer.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Rocco got rocked in that game, said hit he took.
I don't know how he got glad.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
He came back in. I'm stunny. Came back in to
play later. Their physical man.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
That was one of those double fouls. They face masked
him then targeted him. Kids gets ejected. The same kid
face masked him then.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
And the face mask turned Rocco's head around. As soon
as you su as, he corrected. He got it right
in the face.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
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Speaker 2 (36:26):
We don't have any. We had a coffee stop a
couple of days ago.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
Yeah, we served Yeah, we served coffee there on the
National International Coffee Day.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
Kinda served it.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
I mean wean Yeah, it was good.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Mostly hung out, hung out, gave some people passed out.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
A few cups. You were busy talking. I was walking
around out. Oh good jobs, got good coffee and I
got a good coffee with a salt Lake. Well done, good,
good coffee and salt Lake. I went back to that place. Yeah,
salt Leg Roasters. It was good that one. Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
You're gonna talk about probably in this the environment will
come up. You'll talk. Oh yeah, okay, got.

Speaker 1 (37:00):
It, Texter. Since the oh by the way, this coming Tuesday,
October seven, we're going to be hosting the United Way
fundraising event at Touchdown Terrace at the Football Stadium. We're
happy to announce not you're not going to be happy
if you wanted to go, but we're happy to announce

(37:21):
that it's sold out, as Marv Albert used to say,
s r oh, a standing room only crowd, and we're delighted.
It's a fundraiser for the United Way of Montagelia in
Preston Counties, presented by Clear Mountain Bank and Hope Gas.
The coaches for WVU men's basketball, Ross Hodge women's basketball,

(37:43):
Mark Kellogg, Steve Sabins Mountaineer baseball, and Jen Greenee Mountaineer volleyball,
and they'll each be bringing student athletes with them. The
three of us will be doing interviews with those panels
coaches and then the student athletes. We'll also have a
live a silent auction. The silent auction I just whisper

(38:04):
and it's all for the United Way. If you remember,
we bought a pig last weekend at the Preston County
Livestock Auction as part of the Buckwheat Festival and a
thousand bucks and that was paid. And now we're going
to We've added the live auction of the pork from

(38:26):
the pig. We're gonna live auction it to someone in
the crowd on Tuesday night. And did you see the
list of what you get? There's a ton. You get
a ton out of that pig.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Really, that's because with a pig, you use everything but
the oinc I mean, seriously, that's why pigs are so
common in the world because you can use it all.
What does that mean? It means you use everything? It
means like you can you can have the you know,

(38:58):
the leanest part the full and you can also eat
pickled pigs feet. That is true, and you can take
what's left and make sausage.

Speaker 1 (39:06):
Yeah, I was astounding. I would like to try to
find that.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
One, like thirty eight pounds of sausage.

Speaker 1 (39:12):
Was Yeah, that was to be Yeah, can you find
where was that? Was that a text or was at
an email? I don't remember from the which.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
By the way, thank you everybody that's ordered tickets to
that that was. We appreciate that.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
Note. It's a lot of listeners that did that, so
thank you. A Texter says. Since the Utah game, I've
heard comments about fans not going to games due to
the poor product on the field. I was at Utah.
It wasn't easy to watch to them get dominated that set.
I think we as fans have to remember every little
thing about a program will have an impact on the
future fan attendant's game atmosphere. Just a few that fans
can have an impact on the program's image. No secret,

(39:45):
West Virginia doesn't make the top of the list for
a number of categories that are mentioned in realignment conversation,
but our fan based game atmosphere list is one of
our top qualities if we as fans want West Virginia
to have the best chance at making the cut at
the end of this thing, we have to do our
partner making sure that the product in the stands on
game day stays strong regardless of the current product on
the field. Thanks for all you do. Signed by d

(40:06):
from North Carolina.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
Tony two points about that that you'll still end up
even on a bad day and a bad season, you'll
still end up with close to forty. And those that's
those folks can those they make a difference that forty
can be allowed.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
Number one.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Number two is Brad. You know this from marketing days.
It's roli man. I mean people are busy. It's expensive
to take the family to a game and park and
eat and all those things, and people look at return
on investment.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
Texter says during Brad's rant about the time slot for
the BYU game, I could not help but recall what
Scott Van Peltz said after the Arizona State Bowl game
where we didn't start playing until around eleven PM Eastern.
Let me fully finish this by saying, I agree with Brad.
Move the games to the weekend to avoid this late
start for the East Coast teams. This is what Scott

(40:57):
Van Pelt said. If there's any fan base in America
that stay up until after the sun rises to watch
its team, it's the fine folks of West by God Virginia.
It's several of those. This weekend we had some this
this one really stood out to me this weekend that
we had to do what we had to do. Washington
flew across the country to play at Rutgers, Penn State

(41:20):
goes all the way over to play Ucla. I just
said to myself, like, I'm wondering if these conference commissioners
and these TV networks are getting this great joy out
of this concoction that they have created based upon what
they wanted in their full inventory, It's just mindless. It's
irrational this or at least.

Speaker 3 (41:40):
During the day, I mean Penn State fans because watch
or listen to their team play during the day. Duke
was in a similar situation to West Virginia that game
ended at two thirty or so am Eastern time. That
those are the ones that provide a hardship and listen.
I know there has to be Friday's timeslots. I just
think if you're going to do that, try and put
the time zones compatible so it comes earlier. And I
know there's WNABA game on ESPN.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
I understand it. That's just that's that's tough. Two thirty
was was late there when that game end, not as
late as you getting back thirty six hours.

Speaker 1 (42:08):
Later or whatever it was. But I was with you.
Hop I made it.

Speaker 3 (42:11):
I was grinding at the end. I had my own grind.
The team was grinding. I had my own grind getting
the two.

Speaker 1 (42:16):
Thirty Were you drinking game day grind? Is that how
you were?

Speaker 3 (42:19):
I had some later in the day than what I
would normally do. Yes, I was probably caffeineated. I took
like wind aided and Olympic records. I probably was caffeine aided,
no question.

Speaker 2 (42:28):
I took the rear seven pm nap, Yeah I did.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
I went preh I went cappuccino and then and then
I went another cappuccino with an extra shot. And that
was in the morning, and then at lunch, so three
hours later. I had four cups of coffee at lunch.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:46):
Because if you had stopped on that mid morning, I
don't think that you would have had a crash.

Speaker 2 (42:50):
You.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
Here's why I had four because it was this. It
was this place called the Park Cafe, which was like
this great recommended Utah play by play guy Bill Riley said,
go to there. My buddy owns this place. Go here.
It was one of those places, you know, when you
go sit down at these cafe breakfast places that serve
breakfast all day. Then they give you this mug and
it's a special mug. It's a mug that's a heavy ceramic,
and they white probably white white, and it's just like,

(43:13):
for some reason, it just it's different. It has to
be filled with coffee all the time, and it drinks
a lot easier than just regular coffee. So you just
like go like this. And then all of a sudden,
I go, hell, that was for those things, and I go,
I'm good, that's fine, that's fine other than doing this
the whole night there just you went straight straight straight coffee.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Yeah you I listened to you the whole game, and
yeah you're you're despite the game and despite the hour,
your enthusiasm never waned.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Well, that was overwhelmed by the atmosphere, which we'll talk about. Okay,
three guys, this is more historic copy. You'll like this one.
The Great West Virginia dysporia began in nineteen fifty, the
year that I was born. I'm a Kimball kid went
to Welch High School, so my comments on always a
West virgin and the connection are limited to the southern
coal fields. Our friends left by the hundreds as the

(44:04):
coal industry for steelmaking coal contracted. They went to Cleveland
and Detroit. They went to Charlotte and Birmingham. Some went
to Phoenix to mine uranium. My father's supervisor went to
Jamaica to mine baux site for aluminum production. Three hundred
thousand West Virginians left three generations later. This may represent

(44:25):
one and a half to two and a half million
sons and daughters of West Virginia now living in these
and similar cities. Statistically, it should not be surprising to
see a flying WUV as we travel through airports or
other places that people gather. Kimball was decimated when Pocahonta's
Fuel Company closed the Vivian Mine, and the Norfolk Southern
Railway Railway closed their shops and relocated our friends to

(44:48):
Roanoke and Jacksonville. However, in the fullness of time. It
is a source of pride and warmth to hear. Let's
go and know their tap route. Yeah, that was extremely well.
It spreads on stats there, very good. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
West Virginia's population peaked around nineteen fifty eight over two million,
maybe two point one million, and since then it's been
a steady decline. We're now below one point eight million.
But he's exactly right. People left the state. People don't
know about the Hillbilia Highway. But that's a good documentation
of people going a variety of places. And West Virginias
don't forget their roots. Don't forget the roots. So you

(45:22):
have West Virginia fans everywhere. We're not BYU, but we
but we got a lot of fans in a lot
of different places.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
You know, who's happening and hopping and getting people in
the state. Tourism. Oh yeah, So I hosted their tour,
the final event of their tourism conference over here at
the motel last week. Oh you did. I did. And
they had initially called for you. I said you weren't available,
and I took a call and so it was so

(45:50):
all of the CVBS were there and all that. It
was really good. I mean, you talk about tourism that's
cranking in West Virginia right now, you know what too.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
And props to Governor Morrissey and also Chelsea Ruby, tourism director,
because the federal government's closed, right, but they said the
state will pay to keep the two national parks open
at New River Gorge and at Harper's Ferry because it's

(46:19):
such a peak travel and tourism season. Sure it's a
good call on their part.

Speaker 1 (46:23):
To do that. Yeah, hey, guys, longtime, first time I'm
out in Salt Lake City ready to root on the mountaineers.
I wanted to reach out. Thank you. My dad and
I are both the lums. Listened to all your shows,
spent the week talking about your pod and mountaineer sports.
He passed away mid September, shortly after attending his very
first backyard brawl since two thousand and seven. Talk about
an epic high note. We rewatched the game many times.

(46:46):
You who have three U three have been a part
of a zealous and bonding fandom. So I thank you. PS.
I work for the Utah Department of Natural Resources, and
I can confirm that all boats on the Great Salt
Lake are lou Wendell pontoons, and yes, you can navigate
your pontuon from the Great Salt Lake to Utah Lake

(47:07):
by provo via the Jordan River. You didn't know that.
I did not know that. Well, those the water there pops.
When you're driving from Salt Lake to prov Lake off
on it, it's a wow. What it means beautiful? Yeah,
it's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (47:22):
You go to Salt that we didn't have time. I
know you walked around the campus, but you didn't. Have
you seen Salt Lake? Have you seen the lake?

Speaker 1 (47:28):
Never been to the lake the lake proper? I have not,
No Texter Hay, three guys. The waiting is the hardest part.
Every day you see one more card, you take it
on faith, you take it to the heart. The waiting
is the hardest part. It could be a song there.

(47:50):
How about this picture, please, you'll we'll talk about this.
Had a lot of ice cream in the stands at
b YU. There one of them. They're gonna be multiple
of these. During textual healing at the end of the
third quarter BYU, people served ice cream to mountaineer fans.

(48:12):
Really yeah, and there's just someone showing the cup of
ice cream that they were delivered.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Well, there's like the nice on steroids there.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Oh yeah, Josh from Burlington, that's Mineral County outside of
Kaiser loved Tony's Mountaineer mash call second quarter PS. I
would buy an infant outfit for our baby, which is
expected May twenty one, which would be my wife and
i's first. If the infant section is available, probably need
to get that. On three guys get a onesie? Can

(48:42):
we get that?

Speaker 2 (48:43):
Can we? I'd probably sell a lot of them.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Dave Let homeless new Texter Stephen from eleanor a historically
bad three game stretch by the Mountaineer defense. It reminds
me of the phil elmationon led defense in two thousand
and one.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Phil Elmation diference on your Bingo card.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
That was Rich's first year. Phil omation was the DC Texter.
I'm practicing some patients when it comes to Khalil Wilkins
throws a perfect ball to Cam Vaughan and its intercepted.
I suppose even a star player do a mishap every
once in a while. With that being said, this team
has played much better than last week, which says we
will be a better team than last week this week

(49:21):
We will be a better team next year than this year.
Is so on it isn't comment on us as Mountainer nation.
To be patient, it will come. Three guys doctor ed.
Here we beat the spread. Defense needs to learn how
to beat the counterplay. Too. Many runners getting past their
linebackers because they're headed the wrong counter direction. But overall
I like their effort. Now do something completely different. Here

(49:46):
we go. BYU fans and game administrators are just top notch.
Many complete strangers. See my flying WV Gulf shirt. Out
of the blue sincerely thanked me for being there and
wished us well.

Speaker 2 (49:56):
My goodness.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
The BYU band playing Hail West Virginia nearly brought a
tear to my eye to know they really wanted us
to be there and experience their hospitality. WVU fans need
to take a note, and some need to alter their
behavior towards opposing fans. Truly welcome them to MYLN pushcar.
You'll feel a lot better doing that in place of
chanting some rhyming vulgarity. Above is a picture of one

(50:18):
of the ice cream delivery folks. Do you recognize him?
That's our guy, Yeah, President Benson. There, he and the
Texter Ads Jeff Hosteler was also out there handing out
ice cream between the third and fourth.

Speaker 2 (50:32):
Quarter home turf there for the President.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
Yeah he was really wild.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
So just everybody in the visiting team section gets ice cream.

Speaker 1 (50:39):
Yeah, just bring it up there. And let me tell
you something. Take a look at the size of those containers. Like,
that's not like a two scooper, that's a serving of
ice cream. So thanks to the ice cream folks, and
thanks to the ice cream folks deliveries.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
It's President Benson. Is he everywhere? He might be here today?

Speaker 1 (50:55):
It makes me tired. He makes he makes me tired,
Like every time I look like where how he what?

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (51:02):
Yeah he's getting after it. Ford Hill, Phil Rights high
three guys, not happy but not desponding after this one.
I'm tired, but not sick and tired. The rest of
the season is going to be a lab but at
least it won't be boring. Will be especially curious to
see what the final combination will be when Texas Tech
rolls into end the season. We sail fourth Ford Hill, Phil, Hey,

(51:25):
three guys. First of all, as someone who has been
to dozens of away West Virginia games, game day production
at BYU was as good as anywhere. Combine that with
the kind, almost sappy, welcome to provo BYU attitude, it
all made for a surreal cultural experience we will certainly

(51:45):
return someday on a sad note, not to usurp Hoppy's
obvious observations, but as someone who just retired from coaching
a shotgun based offense for nearly thirty years, I cannot
imagine any scenario where my team needs less than a
foot and I don't go under center for the Mountaineer
mash and honestly I was disappointed no one in postgame

(52:06):
press corps pressed rich on why you didn't go under center.
There me thinks Dana and Neil Brown would have been
directly questioned after that result signed by Steve in Tennessee, hasn't.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Dwight Tony mentioned that that's one of the weaknesses of
a you know, spread hray up offense is when it
gets down inside the five, you're more limited there as
he said that.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
Yeah he has. But with this Mountaineer Mash nine offensive
lineman formation, you certainly could have done that didn't do it.

Speaker 3 (52:40):
I don't know if on that one it mattered if
you were under center. I get what Steve's saying. There
certainly a lot of people share that same sentiment. I
don't know that it would have mattered. I mean, you
just got blown backward ya did I don't care. I
don't know it matter if you're under center, shotgun.

Speaker 2 (52:52):
Or we saw that play Brad where a couple offensive
linemen for West Virginia ended up in the backfield. Yeah,
got blowed up.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Yeap. Obviously that incenses Rich.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
I mean, yeah, he might have mentioned that in the
post game. He might have mentioned that about not being
able to get a foot.

Speaker 3 (53:12):
Yeah, because guys, as much as tempo is a part
of this, Rich has always been a guy and a
coach that thrives on power. This isn't the old West
Coast offense where you try and spread it out and
there's not physicality. This system thrives on physicality, and it's
just not there right now.

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Speaker 2 (54:18):
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Speaker 1 (54:27):
Oh they had drinks there, water. Oh, they had drinks there,
sugar drinks, sugar cooke everything. They had the full Monty there.
Oh yeah, and I pounded water, did you Yeah? I
mean it was over the top. I mean if my
bottle of water got down past half seven, people in
there gave me thirteen bottles of water.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
So tony, and you really haven't fully flushed out your
experience coming here. Okay, go ahead, yeah, okay, so we go.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
Right, This gentleman says long text, Guys, I made a
trip to Byu with my wife and the in laws,
and boy, I must say I may have found a
nicer fan base than West Virginia's. We could not walk
ten feet without someone stopping and talking to us, welcoming
us to Provo. Believe it or not, all of their
West Virginia connections, with a bunch of them having lived

(55:17):
in Morgantown or visited for various reasons, every single one
were kind and courteous, fantastic experience with the people. At
one point, one of the fans walked up to a
group of four while we were sitting in our seats
toward the end of the first quarter, and they had
brought us each an ice cream, continuing theme. Definitely a
place I would go to attend a game again. Oh

(55:39):
and by the way, Tony, did you happen to grab
one of those ten foot cougar tails that they were
selling at the concession stand? There was a four year
old girl sitting in front of us, and the cougartail
maple bar was bigger than her. She took the tutor's
challenge and downed two of them in the first half,
which is unconscionable. It's unconscionable that she did that. So

(56:03):
these are eighteen inch donuts, like think of like an
e clear on steir. No, that's the ice cream. But anyway,
so anyway, there's more of the ice cream. As disappointing,
the guy says, which is surely would induce the sugar
rush of her bouncing back and forth in her seating
on stuff. Anyway, as disappointed in the game was I
believe I saw bright spots, felt that Wilkins was on
the verge of breaking along Pat White esque. Run Take

(56:25):
these next five weeks, heal up next week, let's steal
some wins, improve in time for a final two tests
at the end of the season. We might just walk
away with one of the suit Now you go ahead, there, guys,
show that ice cream. So there is more of that
ice now again, that's a good that's a good serving
of ice cream. Yeah it is, Texter. We've been to
quite a few away or Bowl games, but the trip

(56:46):
to Provo topped them all. Wonderful hospitality, awesome but very
challenging hiking, and an inspiring game atmosphere despite the distance.
We are very fortunate to have BYU in the Big twelve,
signed by Bill in Evansdale, and he sent five pictures.
That's a view very similar to what you look at
from the outside of the stadium. And there they are

(57:07):
now hiking in the that'd be a great Hoppy trip.
Hoppy likes to do that stuff. They're hiking in those
mountains Wasatch Mountains. And then there's a bunch of mountaineer
fans that were there for the ball contest. And here's
a look at the outside of the stadium at night,
had little dark clouds, they had some precipitation throughout the course,

(57:30):
and then there was there that's kind of where the
West Virginia section was, but it went that they're pretty
low to the section, but it went all the way
up to the top. So thank you very very much. Yeah,
So as far as in game entertainment, again, prisoner of
the moment because I just saw it, but I'm open
for someone to show me a better in game entertainment.

(57:52):
Really it was crazy, and I know they gave us
a little bit extra because they had the drone show.
They had these dr thousands of drones flying around the
stadium the entire night, making various you know the character
of those logos and shapes and the Y and the
BYU and their mascot, and just NonStop the amount of

(58:14):
fireworks that they explode during the course of a game,
from the start to the end of it. During it,
I mean, I've never seen anything like it. The third
quarter to fourth quarter break was absolutely as good as
there is. I'm surprised I had not heard about it before.
But basically, lights go off, they bring in like enough

(58:38):
a gear for a concert, onto the middle of the field.
They get the Cougar, the Cougar mascots there, they have
them on a podium. He's got this massive drum and
the stadium lights start to blink and every time he
hits that drum, it reverberates throughout the stadium, and the
entire stadium in Unison is raising his hands. But the
thing that caught me was the entire BYU team does

(58:59):
the same thing. Like you can forget coaching. Between the
third and the fourth quarter, all of the players same deal.
They're throwing their arms up, kind of like the the
dance and the New Zealand thing kind of a thing's
got a little bit of that field. What's that called
a hookah? Hakka, what is that thing? When they do?
You know what I mean? I know what you mean.
So that's happening, right, And then four dudes with grass

(59:19):
skirts come out, bare chested and they have these lit,
flaming large batons, baton type thing, and they start right
they're dealing with those things and there and it's dark
and you're seeing that, and then here come the fireworks.

(59:40):
Here come the drones again. I mean, it is just
absolute and this is all between one quarter.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
That's incredible.

Speaker 1 (59:47):
It was just like, holy gosh.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
You were listening to you. It was you were very
taken aback. Now now now drones have come up. Now
they're doing the cougar. Now here come in on the
field with flames. So again you were you are very chested.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
It was as good as I've ever seen. And that
I don't know if you know this. I've been around,
I've seen some stadiums.

Speaker 2 (01:00:11):
So isn't that Okay, it's a tough place to go
play football and basketball, but isn't that cool to have
them in the league.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
It is? It is and I can't wait to be
good again.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Brad, isn't it well? I don't know, you would forego
the fireworks.

Speaker 3 (01:00:30):
Rutgers.

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Give you a temple and a guy handing out pizza
slices at halftime.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Right, so a couple of a couple of takeaways. I mean,
money is absolutely no option. Oh yeah, loaded, money is
no object when you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Have health the wealthiest college in America.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
Yeah, I mean, they're they're, they're their total valuation exceeds
that of the Catholic religion. And you know, the Catholic
religion doesn't hurt for dollars, right, And so when you
have unlimited resources you can do stuff like that. They
throw in the drones throw like some departments like BRED,
you know, like in a marketing meeting back in the day,

(01:01:12):
like look, we could do the drones, or we could
do the fireworks. But they're like, no, don't all. We
can do it all. And like their set up their
TV studios set up outside of the stadium where they
do their their pregame on b YU TV. Let's just
think about this. They brought in. They brought in Kevin Pittsnagel,
Jeff Hostetler, Philip Bowen, right, Tavon Austin, they all brought

(01:01:36):
them in for their just to sit on their set
during their pregame show. Well, think about that and their
pregame show equipment wise, I mean it rivaled any national net.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Yeah, it's not the network, it's there, it's their network.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
But it's like that's the YU TV set up, it's
b y U TV set but like that's the brand ESPN, ESPN,
Fox TV, Like that's the same setup. It's the same
kind of crane that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
It's everything, full studio set up outside. Like so money
is not an object and to Brad's concerned. To Brad's

(01:02:10):
concerned that that's not just for equipment, ice cream and fireworks.
That's also for players.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Right, if they just spend it on on drone shows
and grass skirt guys with flames and give you ice cream,
I'd be great, be all for that, correct, But they're
drifting over into player procurement. Then I got a little
bit of a yeah, a little bit. Who knows what
the number is? Who knows what the number is for basketball?
But the you know, they've got the number one recruit
in the country who's going to be a freshman, he'll

(01:02:36):
be one and done, And the number that you hear is, yeah,
demands to multiple millions of dollars.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
To get him.

Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
Is West Virginia going there this year?

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
No, they're coming here late. Okay, the Utah's Utah is
coming here in BYU is coming here late. So they're balling.
And I talked with Greg Rubell, their play by play announcer,
and they they they just went full face in non
conference basketball like they're playing boys. Well they should.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Sure that's a top ten team because remember they picked
up Robert Wright from Baylor, who was Baylor's starting point
guard last year a freshman. They paid a lot to
get him. Richie Saunders Returns and all big twelve players
that that might be the best trio in this league.
Those three there, they're gonna be a challenge. So again,
spend more on ice cream.

Speaker 1 (01:03:22):
Please.

Speaker 3 (01:03:25):
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here from these guys in a while. Remember the guys,
well remember the fellas that I had that issue with
my lawnmower that was unsolvable.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
I mean it's just so unique.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
Couldn't figure it out right when you forgot to charge
the battery, I.

Speaker 3 (01:03:40):
Mean really unsolvable. Until the guys came up, Jason John.
They helped us out but.

Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Were those guys been Well, are they okay?

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
Yeah, here's where they've been. You know they they don't
just repair lawnmower impossible.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
They built.

Speaker 3 (01:03:52):
They build race cars and then race them like drag racing.
Listen to this.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
Text I got okay.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Are they okay?

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
They're more than okay. Jason tells me. They finished their
last race last weekend. They have set two national records,
two races in a row, and now become the first
ever ten time national championships. No one had ever won
more than seven on their circuit. No one had ever
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(01:04:21):
broke their own record of now ten world championships, two
national records in the last two races.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Pretty good. Well, I were starting to get worried about them.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
They'll be up for the homecoming game. Season's over now
and as he win world championships. So you got Dale
Blaney in the last show wins the Outlaws at his
age right, oldest ever, and you got these young sparks right,
and they do guys fixed your lawn.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Over this dynasty. How they fixed it? Well, what they
did was they said your battery was dead. That's Mark will.

Speaker 3 (01:04:52):
Fixed by these guys, So it's not a surprise they
come and fix that thing.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
Diagnosed the problem quickly. Kirchfull battery was dead.

Speaker 3 (01:04:59):
It was unsolvable issue.

Speaker 2 (01:05:03):
It took World Champion racers to come in and fix
Bread's lawn war.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
So I'm saying, by the way, it's broken, is it?

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Broken all season?

Speaker 2 (01:05:10):
Did charge your battery?

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
Don't to start, He's absolutely incompetent.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Won't start, don't start mechanically, just not inclined.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
I do other things change The Spark Club did some
things changes, Spark Filters, New Filters did a lot quin
through the checklist of things that don't start. Gas was
in it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
With no game this week for the Mountaineer football team,
we will return later this week. We will discuss the
announcement that's forthcoming from West Virginia's athletic department regarding the
scholarships of the program and its future. We'll have that
as a topic on our next episode of Three Guys.

(01:05:57):
Before the game, we have a guest, me may A.
It's possible. We'll have to see how things work out,
but we'll have details and information. Plus we'll spend some
time on hoops. Bread. We're getting close. We're getting close.
World champion Mountaineers are going to be having their closed
scrimmage coming up a week from this Saturday, Morgantown against Maryland.

(01:06:17):
You can't say when it is or who they're playing.
In the seventeenth. They're going to have Maryland here.

Speaker 2 (01:06:22):
Can I? We still shouldn't have said that, darn I
still haven't had gained accent.

Speaker 1 (01:06:28):
Not open. We'll get you in there. Maybe we'll have
you as a referee. We had the date round eighteenth.
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Proceed on. Three guys over out. Yes,