Ep. 102-Point of No Return (Nu-Shooz)

Shoo bet it's Episode 102 as Louie, Ryan and Al discuss Nu-Shooz's, "Point of No Return." Is it a technical marvel, or pure 80s cheese? Why not both? Tune in as we regale you with Louie's youth with shoe shopping, and of course, awesome shoe trivia.

Episode Transcript

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and tonight we will be reviewing thenew Shoes is point of No Return?
Is that what it is? It'snew Shoes is now a successive turn?
Also, the new Shoes have thedash and the I don't think,
No, they don't, They doun'tnot on no, they don't. Here's
their their single, new Shoes andNew Shoes Point of No Return is a

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nineteen eighty six song by American popband New Shoes and the second single from
their third studio album, pool Side. The song spent one week at number
one on the Billboard Hot Dance ClubPlay chart in September nineteen eighty six.
It also peaked at number twenty eightat the Billboard Hot one hundred chart and
number thirty six on the R andB Chart, as well as topping out

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at number forty eight on the UKSingles Chart. The music video was directed
by the friend of a podcast WayneIsham and as of this recording has five
point five million YouTube views. What'sthe way other Wayne Ishum that we did?
It's wedding bullets? Oh wow,megade from from New US Megadeth quite
quite a quite a discard. Hedoesn't look like a guy who would direct

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a Megades video. A picture him. He got a Tom likes looking like
look too. Oh he's a straightHello Ryan, Hello, Ryan, Dang
dang, How I missed that?It's come back again? And I mean
the guy. The guy's like he'sdone en Sync videos and Metallica videos he

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directed. Understand, man, Ithought you were talking about Tom. I'm
sorry, sorry, Well he wentin a completely different direction. He's invent
there now. I believe Wait ishhim the director of this spectator. No.
He his on credits are in sayingif we ever could get like a
director, we should get. Hewould be a good person to get.
He's done such a crazy his hisdiscography is crazy. It's videographers videography.

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I'm sorry, he has his ownalbum. Excuse me, supposed to be
a video professional. But guys,what is your experiences with new Shoes?
Well, I have a lot ofexpense with pointing on return. I have
two kids. You guys, rememberin Sex had the term the point of
no return crossing the rubicon. Areyou the event horizon? Then there's no
going back. I guess from Livewith the term. I don't remember that

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point of no return is you knowwhen when you're using the rhythm method and
oh, unfortunately you cannot pull outanymore. So you're you've reached a point
of no return. You have nobottom, no control over your bottoms anymore,
and you're the jingle goost your head. But seriously, though, New
Shoes not so much actually getting backnew the freestyle I got. I got

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into it really hard within the lastcouple of years. And of course the
one that always pops up is ICan't Wait right, which is the other
hit of New Shoes. And Ialways thought they were British for some weird
reason. I don't know why they'veseen British. Yeah right, they look
they kind of have that look almost, you know, especially that mid to
late eighties. But this song wasthe other I knew, I've heard of
this song, and me and youwere so surprised at how it's never heard
of that never heard this song.The freestyle master, but yeah, I

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remember. Just not much of aposer I am, but I do remember
it was it was these were bighits, like like the parties, like
the mid to late eighties parties,these songs all the time, but not
the band so much I had.I knew nothing of them. I had
to look them up. Well,that's the thing with freestyle. It's like
you rarely know the bands. Youget a mixtape, it's played on the
radio and on Power Window six,and so you really and it's usually a

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mix on Power Window six. Theywould do mixes on there and Richard Humpty
Vision or whoever the j was atthe time, you know, yeah,
yeah, And it's usually they don'tfollow through with who the band is,
you don't. They seldom get broughtup for an interview on on the radio
station or because then you get ahalf hour mix, right, so you
don't really know the first track wasso, and so they don't really do
that. They just kind of keepgoing. It's not like the new days

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like MPR. You go on thewebsite, you can see what they stayed.
Yeah, so our Rodney he actuallyputs it out on his insta.
No, but same thing. Imean, this is a backyard classic class,
you know, backyard classic. Iused to do a club. I
think it's going to start up againpretty soon, hopefully Fingers Crossed where we
did a lot of We play alot of freestyle, a lot of freestyle,
a lot of synth to dance.It's uh, we mix it with

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hip hop and eighties stuff too.So this is something that you know,
one of the DJ's, there's threeof us that would would play this and
it always gets the gets the partygoing, back, party going, because
this one's a little bit faster thanthan their other hit. Yeah, yeah,
I can't wait. I can't waitto kind of a more of a
slower song, you know, sothis is kind of more of a mean
groove beat. Yeah yeah. Likefor me, nothing really like I mean,

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if you my reaction to this songlast last episode, I've never heard
the song or just it just somehowavoided me or I avoided it. It's
it's it was strange when you knowwhen I'm watching it though, you know
it's how about new Shoes? Youguys knew it was them or no,
you'd heard of them before. I'veheard of new shoes because I can't wait,
even back then, even back then. Okay, So no, it
wasn't until I started like djaying,you have to go find the song,

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and they heard the record. I'veheard of New Shoes because they were they
were in an eighties compilation that Ibought, okay, and that's like,
oh new Shoes, okay, andthey did. I can't wait. Okay.
No, when you're at your wedding, you don't care what you're just
you know, did you guys geta chance to listen to the whole album
pool Side? No, there's somepretty stuff that you that you probably have

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heard, but just don't remember itbecause it's it's very familiar sounding. Most
of some of the dram digital drownyeah, exactly there and and Dancy a
lot of them are really are Dancy. Yeah. So please everybody out there.
They have podcasts. Check them out. They now you know, they've
they've they've gone into the pod Cassarina. They have a beautiful website. They're

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competitors by the way of our podcasts, but make sure that you subscribe and
follow us first right before you cango to us. But Valerie Day does
have an amazing podcast and very well, very well spoken, very just to
just to just to listen to It'san audio delight. She has good guests
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of music. And mister John Smithis now a comic book artist. Yeah,
it's a graphic novelists. It's crazyhow their career trajectories went. Yeah,
and you know, just another thingI wanted to bring up. Louis
turned us on to the podcast thatthey were guests on, and basically they
talked about the Portland scene during thattime and where they came from. But
what's interesting is they don't really performanymore, right, Remember towards the end

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he mentioned they don't perform anymore becausefor a long time, you know,
every once in a while you'll seethese posters like these freestyle what do you
call festival theater, all kinds ofplaces and tvby exactly huge ones, huge
festivals, and you know they havea big fan base line, not just
them, but everybody else Expose exposea line. Yeah, all of them

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are. And I've always wanted togo to go to have you been?
I would love to too? Weshould just go one day, hit one
up one day. Yeah, itlooks fun. I think another one's usually
happening soon. But yeah, butI wouldn't mind going to like a Greek
theater like where it's a nice venue, you know, that'd be fun.
But this fascinating. We started offas like a jazz rock thirteen people,
kind of like a crowd rock kindof band or something like that. Yeah,

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they were like a Scott a lotof influences for sure. Yeah.
Yeah, they had a horn sectionand backing vocals division as well. It
just felt like there were just musiciansthat wanted to play out all the time.
And then they actually got hits andthat's where it took them, you
know. And they're the you know, the rarity of a two piece band
that's actually married a couple. That'sthat's another crazy. They've been married for

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a long time, since eighty two. Yeah, that's nuts. Mad they
married for like forty something years.How would you compare them to the raw
band? Though? It always comesback to the rock stands and what's the
band? Remember class across the Moonthey were married around that. Well this
is this isn't our first paraye withhusband and wife. Lots of yeah,

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but yeah, but this one wetalk about an amazing and also we did
the White tribes were also married.True. Oh, that's true. That's
true. We do have I mean, we do have a couple married couples
in these bands that we've done.They met, he went hiking up north
and that's and then he stopped attheir commune and that's how they met.
Something like that, something like that. Yeah, like visiting the commune.

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He ended up staying there, andshe happened to have been staying there because
her commune or a compound, acompound, commune, a commune. Yeah,
her fifth grade teacher runs this commune. And then when he stopped by,
they're like, hey, you seemlike a decent guy. You can
stay overnight and just you know,you just kind of have to hop out
a little bit. And then theyyou know, they they met and that

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was it, you know, ashe would say, the rest is mystery.
Well, he says like it wasn'tlove at first sight, but they
ended up getting together later on orsomething like that. Yeah, no,
but the thing is there there.I don't know if he went to school
for music, but she certainly did, you know, vocals. Yeah,
she's like a professional, like acussionist. She taught. Yeah, there
was a music video where she wasplaying the cylophone right right, right,

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So I mean, you know,this is like kind of like they're like,
this is what they were meant todo sort of, you know,
like that's their life. He seemsvery prolific, prolific a lot of the
different things he does, like anymovies now he plays, and a bunch
of other about living the life.Right, yeah, seriously, man.
But anyway, like I was saying, so they don't perform anymore. That's
it for them because they have allthese other ventures in life, you know,

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and they're a little bit older.I thought, well, you know,
we don't really need to perform asmuch in Moore, even though it
was fun connecting with everybody, butyou know, you mean, you've made
you've done it all. Yeah,right, And a song like those two
hits afforded them a lifestyle where theydon't really need to perform. And you
know what I'm saying. So I'mstill kind of waiting again. And they're
on their on their website it sayslike every eleven eleven minutes one of their
songs plays on that right, It'strue, It's true. I was I

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was at work yesterday and I justwalked past a coworker had a radion and
that's I can't wait. Was playingthere you go so random too, It
was so random, like, ohmy god, I was just playing that
on keyboards last every eleven minutes.That's insane. Every that's that's a lot
of royalty somewhere around the wind.Oh that's another thing. They never sold

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the rights to publishing, so theyown it all. So that again,
there you go. They're not masters. They don't need, you know,
to work. They can do theirpassion projects, you know, and still
be raking and all that money.So wait a minute, we have to
pay them too, because we're talkingabout it. Hold on, a racist
specifics were playing the keyboard? Canyou link that Instagram? Instagram and flag

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They're gonna come and bash your keyboardwith the bat walk out. So the
reason why I picked this video isjust it always stuck with me. I
remember seeing it when I was akid. I'm the So you saw this
on on MTV yess when I wasa kid. Yeah, I did see
it, and yeah it comes atthat time this album, this song Sledgehammer,
it was a lot of that,that kind of those kind of videos.

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They'll stop motion videos, you know, so and you know, I
was a fan of Gumby when Iwas a kid, when you stopped motioning
and freaky, So I mean,when you're a kid, that stuff just
kind of like, oh, thisis cool, you know, Like,
so I think I would I wouldwatch it whenever it was on, and
that This is one of the reasonswhy I didn't pick the Point of No
Return. Oh, I can't wait, I think I can't wait. Yeah,
because I didn't pick that one becauseI don't like that video that much.
It's not it didn't I never seenthat one on MTV. I saw

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this one though. Yeah, it'skind of weird. So that one left
a huge impression on you. Theidea of stop motion, by the way,
it's just I mean, it's oneof the most tedious things you can
do. I mean, you know, you can only imagine how long that
took to choreograph along with the shoeswhen they were dancing, and not only
that, with the amount of likelittle bits and pieces of you know,

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of of like actual shoes, notjust shoes, laces everything that's like,
oh yeah, the laces, that'sI mean, and then their own movements
themselves. Yeah, those spins inthe downs that they were doing. That
was all like that too, andshe's sliding on. We haven't even gotten
to the videos right sliding to thepole. What did you where did you
find that information about the stop motionwhere she fell asleep that you sent it

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to us? Oh that was fromsong Facts. Oh okay. You shoot
a frame and move all the shoesanother inch and shoot another frame. It's
slow, painstaking process. At onepoint Valerie fell asleep. In the shot
where the shoes fall out of thecloset, Falerie is actually asleep on the
floor and it's a lot of shoes. That's yeah, that's what I'm saying.
You know. What's the other thingtoo that remind this video reminds me

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of my childhood is when I wasa kid, we would go to the
fair, right the you know AliCounty, the fair at the you know
the fair grounds, Promonal Fairgrounds,and that's where we would buy our shoes,
our new shoes. Because Vans wouldalways have like a thing there where
they would just like a booth,right it was like a tent and they
would just dump piles of Vans likein this tent and it would be like

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sizes and it would just be likea mountain kind of like a mountain of
her shoes just ton like every color, every style, and you have to
go over there and pick them outand find the shoes to match. Yeah,
they're they're connected, connecting already,but you have to still and go
find the ones that you want,the color you want, and it would
be five dollars a pair of Vans. Well, yeah, in the eighties

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that's still pretty much. Yeah,so we would get like two pairs each,
Like my sister and I would gettwo pairs and then that would be
our school shoes for like that.That's cool for the year. It always
reminded me of this video because it'sall Vans, all mostly events that they're
using. I like, I likethat attachment to the memory. Man,
Yeah, it's weird and it's aweird thing to like you go into the
thing, you know you're gonna getyour shoes, and like you have to

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like hopefully there's a color that youlike because you're gonna get You're getting your
shoes that day. That's it.That's it. And whatever they have you're
gonna get you need to choose,and you need to choose and hopefully they
have you know, some checker onesthat look cool or something, you know,
like some what kind of shoes youend up getting that day? I
don't remember because it was like overyears, but I remember I had a

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pair of checker black and whites that'skind of like was the main one.
And then I had a pair ofblue ones that I really like, slip
on and laces, laces. Iwas like, I can never wear slip
ons. Now I can wear slipons. I'm wearing slip on bans right
now. I'm wearing just for this. I just and I got these at
the Citadel and sale too, sonice. But yeah, so it's just
like one of those things that's ingrainedin my memory and it just kind of

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reminds me of the day of it. Right, it's those weird things.
What did he wind up with?The with the silver sequen shoes and there's
like I like David Bowie wins,I have to wear they don't match with
anything I have beat up for thewhole year. Yeah, man, the
guy's name on your shoes, he'sdead. And then I get beat up.
Boy Ryan was there to protect you. I'm sure when I get store

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man, you think you're some kindof store man. So it was a
pop quiz. Let's do it allright, guys. You know my puck
quizzes are always a little bit tothe purpose of this video? Is it
really by La County Fair? Aboutname the pick that when the blue ribbon

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in nineteen seventy four. Now,okay, here you go, guys,
this is facts about new shoes,sneakers, okay in general, shoes in
general. Right, because because theysaid that they got their name from a
sign that said new shoes and ourshoes. Well, it was one of
those old timey kind of like boasterstyle, you know, and there's some

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shoes and some laces, and theyjust said, hey, it's the shoes.
But then somebody had the name shoesand it's the bass player said hey,
let's do new shoes and spell itlike this. There you go.
That's because the z made it morerock and you like jazz. Okay,
guys, number one, it's gonnabe. There's gonna be. I'm gonna
give you three choices. You pickedthe right one, Okay, all right,
here we go. Phil Knight,founder of Nike, wanted to call

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his brand instead of Nike. Hewanted to call it Dimension six. Icarus
are b athletes choice once again,a Dimension six b Icarus r C athletes
choice. Well, I would sayathletes choice. I'm going with Icarus.

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I'm going to close to the Sun. Okay, you guys are both right?
Dimension six, Dimension six it wasthe original name instead of Nike.
That's what he was gonna call it. Sounds like a really bad twelve piece
jazz band. Right. Jackie Storaplays bas for Dimension six. Okay,
number two Lebron James. You know, we all know he's a Nike guy,
right. He almost chose a differentcompany. What was the company that

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he was originally going to choose?A Adidas b Reebok r C New Balance.
Wait, no proings, no proings? Our tracks either from Ruse remember
Ruse O Drexelo had the Ruse rusAre cools. Shoot, I'm gonna go
with New Bounds, his new Bounds. Okay, I'm going with Adidas Adidas

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If he gets it both wrong,it was Reebok him to rebrand. I
mean he was gonna he was gonnabe the main guy for Rebok. Wait
still be made? Yeah, you'restill around. They got bought by Brush
Night stuff. How can they bebought by somebody that went out of the
business. They're back. They're bad. They are back. I've seen them
back. No Rebok, It's weird, right, that would have been weird,

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right, Damn imagine La gears nothing. Let's say he did sign up
with Rebok. I'm just speculating here. I think he'll eventually go to Nike.
Did you guys ever know that Reebokhad a brand for kids? Do
you know what it was called?Wee Bok we Children? Alright, here
we goes. In nineteen nineties,over eight thousand Nike shoes were lost.

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How were they lost? I'm gonnagive you three different situations, right eight
Yeah, they were just lost.Were they lost in see where they stolen?
Or were they lost in the fire. In the nineteen nineties and the
nineteen nineties, they're already big,there's already shoe culture and stuff. But
I'm gonna lost seast sea, Iwould say lost in fire. It's at

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sea again. They they actually gotlots at sea. They were they were
actually dropped off of an ocean linercoming yeah, yeah, and they ended
up washing up on the ocean likeall of like Northern California, Post of
Northern California had shoes washing up onthe ocean. Some crazy kicks right now.
Eighty thousand pairs, dude, that'scrazy. It's uh, that's from

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the from the sweatshops in Asia,right and they were bringing brought over here
exactly something somehow they okay, andbiblical times shoes were used for this flogging
people. A status symbol are forbargains and contracts, A status symbol,
I mean, at least that's whatI I have to go with bargains of
contracts. That sounds insane enough,bargains of contracts it Yeah, Jesus used

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it for his contract or business.No, yeah, yeah, they would
put for some reason they would useit. Yeah, how any any contact
up store on that. No,No, it was just used like they
were. It was almost like money, so because you know it was it
was they were made up of leatherand they had to be made. It
was a very specific thing. Wasit was materials kind of thing? Yeah,
crafted piece of something. Right.Yeah. So if you're doing something

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you're like, oh, I'm gonnathrow in you know, a hundred pairs
of new shoes. Not the band, it's a lot of John Smiths on
exactly here we go. Number fiveshoe addiction is a real thing. The
prefuntl lobe cortex of the brain getstriggered when someone sees shoes, and it's
this part of the brain that triggersthat is called there's like a name that

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they gave it. Okay, it'snot like a you know, so a
the hoarding midbrain, B collectors spotor C the foot locker lobe. That
was the first one. The hoardingmid brain. It's not like a punk
man, I'm gonna go over now, it would be the collector's spot.
Al, you're correct, the collectorsthey say that thing right now. So

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what it is is there there's alittle bit of damage in that area,
and you it's it's like pre likehoarding. So if it's damage, it's
a little bit, you're just hoarding, you know, toys and keyboards.
But if it's really bad, thenyou're gonna start doing newspapers and on.
There's just something that little to damagein it that you need to wrinkle.
Do you need to get those baseballcards video games? I'm getting triggered here,

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yes, so collectors, No,I think it's I think you have
to be even more than I mean, you're pretty bad. But okay,
here we go. Number seven.Did you guys know that Jordan's were only
released on Saturdays? So when anew player of Jordan you can say,
yeah, it's always been like that, They're always been released. I wonder
if you took that personal. There'sa reason for it, and I wanted
you guys, want you to pickthe reason. Oh, is it a

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kids don't go to school on Saturdaysso they could go buy them? B
Jordan doesn't want to miss a gameof weekend golf, a weekday golf.
I'm sorry, day game of weekdaygolf, because he is a golf guy,
right right? Are betting windows areopen later on Saturdays? Oh man?
And Jordan? And Jordan is anotorious gambler. I kind of like

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the idea of kids could go lineup for every anybody, really most people.
Okay, I'm gonna go with akids, alame same. I mean
he's notorious for saying fuck them kids. I don't know if you know that,
right, No, it's for kids, so kids? Yeah, so
kids don't miss school to go buythe shoes, right man. That's a
good marketing, is right? Andagain, it's not just kids, you
know, like all these Jordans comeup with or Nike did I'm thinking,

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I don't know, actually my Nike, Right, Michael Jordan wanted to sign
with another company since you've seen themovie, Oh what was that company?
Was it a case? Was wasit b Converse or was it c Adidas?
As we know, his mom andMatt Damon talked him into the signing
with Nike, right, So whatwas the original company that he wanted to
go to? That was Converse?I'm gonna go without Converse. It was

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Adidas he was into Remember, becauseI'm thinking about Magic Johnson and Very Bird.
They were Converse, and I thought, you want to join them?
Because no, he said that hewanted tracks. Remember he wanted track suits
and he said, could you guysmake track suits? You know, like
I wanted to hip hop? Look, yeah, I wanted mc salar wanted
he wanted some shells. So we'retalking about Rebok. What is Rebok named

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after? Is it named after aand an African gazelle? Is it b
Enzo Reebok, the original owner ofthe company, or is it Rebok the
Spucci who is a man who broughtleather shoes to Italy. But a Springbok
is is an African gazelle? Type. So I'm gonna go with that,
okay, with gazelle, you're goingwith the spucci with It's an African gazelle.

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The two were completely made up.Enzoe REBOKCID. That's good. I
thought that would get a hallida youguys, all right? Okay, So
shoes and dreams there actually represent somethingin your dream? Oh okay, okay,
all right? What did they represent? Do they represent the way you
approach life? Is it past tragedies? Our information is sneaking into your subconscious

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approaching life? Or man, Ithink approaching life? Okay, I would
go with a as well. Yes, that's it. That's weird. I
never I don't think i've ever.I've never heard about shoes. I don't
think so either. Like I dreama lot and I forget them in like
twenty minutes later, But shoes,shoe wise, I don't. I've never
really had a focus on shoes inmy dreams. And I remember telling me
about a dream where he fell onrazor blades got in his gums. Me,
yeah, oh, I know,I hate those kinds of dams.

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I never had those dreams. Butlike every time I think about razor blades,
think of Ryan's dreams very tragedy.That's pretty okay my brain. Clyde
was the first signature shoe ever made. Who was it for? Was it
for Clyde, Drexter, Portland trailEvators? Here Houston Rockets? Was it
Walter Frasier right from The Knicks?Or was it Willis Read also from The

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Knicks Frasier beat man as Clyde excellent? Right? Nope. I always thought
they were Clyde director shoes too.I would see them all the time.
I'm like, oh wow, wasthat kind of cool he was? He
had rus back in the eighties,you know, yeah, yeah, you
know kind of shoes him talking aboutyou can buy him a like huge market
back in the day. Man,they were like cheap, yeah, but
they were cool though. I rememberRuse being advertised by pro wrestlers. Yeah,

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I would love to get like theystill soull them. They're actually expensive
because they're only they're like European.They're made in I think, so they're
still around. There's a little kangarooon it. They have a little bucket.
You can put money in it becausethey're kangaroos. Yeah. That His
name was Waltz, the first personto ever have Yeah, it was a
pair of Nikes called the Blank isthe most expensive shoes ever sold an auction,

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selling for the price of four hundredand seventy five thousand dollars. So
what was the name of these shoes? Was it the night Flights, was
it the Jordan Ones or was itthe Waffle Shoe. Now you can't grow
any David Robbins in there, butwith the pump. How about my Scotty
Pibbins. I wanted to hear theJordan Ones, but it's probably maybe I

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go go with the waffles. Yeah, I think the waffle The waffle shoe
was the first shoot that they evermade. They said, that's how much
it sold for. Right, it'sthe first shoes like basketball shoe that they
make. No trackshot was a tractshoe that he used to make it with
the with the waffle wire to makethe soles with the rubber because he has
like those soles like a waffle waffle. He used the waffle wire to do
it. So that's the I hada parallels. They're actually really cool.

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That's some good shoe information. Yeah, like my my shoe knowledge is like
Mega Tupple. Okay, we'll beright back. Okay, so let's not
with the music video for the Pointof No Return. So it starts so
it's also on wonderful What we've allbeen a million times is the fame?
That's right, wold Walk of Fame? Did you see any notable names on

(25:48):
that star is just too blurry?I don't see anything. I did smell
a lot of pea, because theWalk of Fame does smell like yours.
You write a skateboard down the HollywoodWalk, your skateboards gonna smell like pe
after Where were there any like playersasking you for donations? Donations for pictures?
Not a weird skinny Batman or aweird skinny Superman or a chubby spider

(26:10):
Man. It's like, did itchange outfits? But yeah, I see
Valerie Day and it's really it reallyis the hot the Walk of Fame,
right, Yeah, it really is. Yeah, I'm sure the budget didn't
allow for a fake Wall of Fame. Well, I know, I bet
you. Now, if you wereto do that, you'd probably have to
pay some kind of The Walk ofFame is like a there, it's a
thing. I wonder if you wouldhave if you want to use it now.

(26:32):
Now the city or something like that. All you got to get extra
kind of permitter. Maybe, Idon't know, But Portland Walk of Fame,
No, it wasn't there, bythe way, aren't they in the
Portland puts them in the dandy Warholsand it's funny quasi And they've been to
Portland scene. They've been, they'vebeen, like they've opened for Tina Turner

(26:53):
and all that too. And whenTina toured Portland back in their pre Private
Dancer era, Oh that's when beforewe just get started on this, that
was a big thing they kept talkingabout, like the Portland scene was just
like hub in the in the seventies, early eighties, mid eighties of like
music, like a bunch of likedifferent like a melting pot of like different

(27:14):
cultures and the making music. ButI it's funny because I feel like it's
kind of like that now. It'sit's kind of like the hub for like
indie music. Right well it wasright yeah, Dunni Worlse came out of
there, and so it does reallyhave a rich history of music and like
things coming up. I think twoback then you could buy like a building
for really cheap, like yeah,back then, so that you could buy
and have a rehearsal studio and livethere and record there and do everything,

(27:37):
you know, because that's a bigpart of bear history, specifically new shoes.
Yeah, and I could see likea lot of bands going coming from
like San Francisco moving moving there.Yeah, yeah, exactly, are like
northern California going there for cheaper rentsand stuff like that. But yeah,
so Valerie Day, she's just waltzingthe streets of Hollywood, and then she
sees a ballet studio. Yes,and we got nice John Smith doing that
over over the shoulder turn at us, like it's the total Paul Rudd over

(28:00):
the shoulder turn right. And youknow you're winning at life when you can
do that right and un ironically.And that guy is obviously winning in life.
He has a lion's mane of hair, like the suit. The suit
he's wearing is insane. Do youthink he used soul glow? No,
he doesn't have a he doesn't havea he doesn't have a Jerry curl.

(28:21):
It's just a big eighties he hasn'tnaturally curly kind of like hair and guitar
player eighties guitar player here, youknow, it's funny because I was reading
the lyrics. I was reading somestuff online. I think it was on
that that song facts thing how theywere saying most of the time the lyrics
were just kind of like placeholders forthem, and it wasn't really it was
never the focus of their music making, not until like thirty years later,

(28:44):
like with this album that they made. But if you ever read the lyrics,
it's kind of like that, youknow, like the point of no
returns, like I can't go backto what was what they once happened or
whatever it was, you know,and it kind of made me sad.
Actually when I was reading that,did you guys didn't read the lyrics.
I didn't really read the lyrics.I have a deep poetry I was.
I was. I was too enthralledby the technology that used for music video.

(29:07):
She looks like she could have beenlike a movie star back then.
She had someone from a John Hughesmovie, like totally like absolutely Ryan you
called her, she looks like Rene. We totally could have been in the
movie Pa. I thought she lookedlike WWS Sonny remember Sonny w w F
from The Body Donna's in the earlynineties. No idea what you're talking.
Okay, well, wrestling fans knowwho somebody Donna's are my I can't wait

(29:30):
too you. At that time,she kind of looked like Sunny from WWF.
If you're nineties wrestling fan, youwould know who Sonny looks like,
all right, But anyways, shekind of reminded me of Sunny as well.
Do you think, Feller, itis related to Charlie Day? You
know that. I did play withthat in my head. But we would
know that though. If I wouldbe one of their, Yeah, that
would be a huge tree. Itwould be It would totally be on the

(29:52):
wiki. Right. Is he notthe Sun that they were talking about?
Right, he's the secret son,that's right. Their son's name is Malcolm,
according to them, Malcolm Day,Malcolm Day, malcol No, I
don't know Malcolm Smith. Oh,Malcolm Smith, Malcolm Day Smith. I
don't know Malcom Smith. Yeah.So she goes in, she goes into
this ballet studio and you got,you know, John Smith waiting there for

(30:14):
her doing some dancing. So whatdo you think is happening? Why is
she going in? Why is healready in there? Is is she taking
lessons? I didn't really get it. I think she was just drawn into
the ballet studio, and but whatwas his purpose for being there? To
just be in the video? He'sthe point of no return, right.
No, they're happily frolicking out,and really I don't think that she was.
No. I think the moment,the moment she enters the ballet'studio,

(30:37):
that was the point of number thatwas crossing the rubicon for she put it
on a credit card number and she'sgetting the monthly subscription with the ballet class.
But but yeah, anyway, he'swaiting there for her. You know
it is Leopard Get up right,I have tight Do you have a feeling
it's that classic eighties video trip thatwe keep hitting is it was the cheapest
place to rent her Yeah, forthe day. That's the video. Yeah,

(31:00):
and again it was a twenty fourhour shot, right, and it's
a cool looking place place. Yeah, it's enough room to do their stop
motion. And it's funny too becauseyou get a shot of her like looking
up the name, right and thenentering the door, and then he's there
turning around. Yeah. So yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's how they
got to this kind of those spacebecause they had the name of the place.
They're like, hey, we're gonnaput the name of the video,
but why did this place have somany shoes? That's the thing in Nike

(31:22):
like tennis. So well, it'sa ballet dance, so you store your
shoes, you can wear your Okay. Maybe people like forget their shoes and
they leave in their Boston town.Maybe it is all vans. He's infestations,
live shoes. They're alive and theyoverran for Valerie. What do you

(31:42):
think that ballet snood smells like withall those shoes and they're all used too,
right, have you ever seen it? They're not they're not new shoes
at all. Right, No,no, have you ever seen a ballet
dancers feet? It's messed off fromall the moves that they yeah, yeah,
from the news on point stuff.They're all bloody and bruise really bad,
like all the time. Have youseen ballet shoes Like maybe they just

(32:06):
like I've seen wand up tight thatthey like literally like kept them pribe their
feet out of there and then they'relike bruised and bloody literally your feet at
that point, Yeah, you knowto pull off those moves, so you
know, yeah, shout out tothe ballet dance to bled for the art.
So she she gets sat down rightso that they can change that sequence

(32:27):
of changing the shoes. Well,she does the like the she goes onto
the bar and does a little dancethe exercise right right, back and forth,
back and forth on there, andthen do they do the dance together.
That's later on. That's later on. She so she sits down after
and then that's when the whole shshe's on the closet right, and then
it opens up. That's right.Her her big boots come off, yeah
exactly, yeah, yeah, right, some nice what sixteen hold docks and

(32:47):
something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's all dressed up kind
of like you know, very eightiesCyndey Laparsque that seeing Susan. Yeah,
she's all those things. But thisis like before or after or doing Desperate
Seeking. Susan Hours after Seeking seasonwas like eighty four, probably eighty five.
And as we said earlier, likethe sequence of the shots falling on

(33:07):
her took so long to do,right because like they're literally moving inch and
she fell asleep. Yeah, thatwas there. That would have taken how
long you think, like let's sayone inch per well, I mean but
The thing is, we don't knowhow many people were the production crew,
you know, and you got tokeep track of each shoe at their movements,
so they're not just like shoes thatare like coming off the ground.

(33:29):
Here you have to like they're probablyplaced by a wire or something. They're
falling, so you need to dropthe wire a little bit on all of
them, like Wayne Isham as thepatience of a Saint to manage all that
stuff. Now, has Wayne Ishamdirected some before this one? I'm curious
because I'm just saying, does hehave enough pool where he has like a
whole crew too, because I feellike even though it's twenty four hours to

(33:49):
make this, it's still a lotof people needed to right to execute way
an Isham. His first video wasin nineteen eighty four Caught in the Act
by Sticks, and then he probablydid When We're Gonna Be Doing When When
Dave? He did Pretty and Pinkby Psychedelic first, but before this in
eighty five he did let Me SeeWhat's the Big One, Smoke into the
Boys Room. He did Home SweetHome by Motley Crue, also Everybody's Crazy

(34:15):
by Michael Bolton, Dalking Song againand again and then the next year he
did Pretty and Pink, Howard Jones, Bon Jovi, bon Jovie, New
Shoes, a lot, already alot, Yeah, he was already.
Yeah, I think that he's themost technical video. Oh yeah, because
I because like Living on a Prayer, bon Jovies, that's the live one.
Okay, they're all just live,They're all live. Pretty and Pink

(34:36):
is has a little bits and thenhe has the other stuff. Howard Jones.
You know, I love you,you know what I love you.
That's like him. I never seenyou. I never I've never seen Turbo
Lover by Judas priestcast let me seeso emotion. No, all his other

(35:00):
stuff are all girls, girls,girls out. Yeah he directed that one
too. He did All the Money, Cruise Wild. I think he did
Doctor Feel Good as well, Poursome Sugar on Me, Yeah he did.
He basically ruled eighties hair bands.Yeah, I mean so he's definitely
seasoned by this point though, seasonso yeah, I think this is still
his most I guess my point isinvolved. Surely at this point he would

(35:22):
have a crew to work with,right, like guys enough, but the
budget was there too, actually bringingsome people. But yeah, this is
the only one that's kind of likethat but feel good. Yeah, that
fuel was an amazing video, couldstart my heart. But the thing is
that, like New Shoes though,he used to be at the forefront of
a lot of technology with music videos. Well, this was the time though
that, like we said, Slashammerwas out. There was already there was

(35:42):
Skyramale I think eighty five two wasthat like all the puppet ones. There
are people who were doing puppet ones. Yeah, this is the World the
Genesis and all that kind of weirdpuppet stuff and then animation stuff and yeah,
there was a lot of weird stuff. And the guy who did the
New Shoes I can't wait. Alsodid the Michael Jackson out Just Leave Me
Alone? Remember that that stop motiontoo, right? Yeah, yeah,

(36:04):
that's stop motion and a lot ofthe move yeah, like moving that one
has like claymation too, I thinkpossibly, but a lot of collage art
that moves. That's one, that'sright, I do remember from right that
was big, right. So TheShoes is like a pioneer because they were
like the guinea pigs really of thiskind of technology for music videos. It's
amazing that they did it in oneday. That's crazy. I mean that

(36:28):
part. I'm sure that they filmedwith the ending where we're talking about it's
just people with wigs on ye likebecause like they probably had to go they
were gone or something recording. Sothey spent twenty four hours to create that
music video, which like really likethe last video we did flock of seagulls.
That's true, you know what,I bet you. They're like a
lot of the other stuff. Solike the the stuff words is the shoes
by themselves where the shoelaces are kindof moving and different things like that.

(36:51):
That was probably done in like adifferent studio special totally, so it was
just took it took a day justfor them. You know, they'll dancing
bit there's a lot of answering herlike spinning around because that takes a long
time too, probably too, Yeah, you know to shoot to get it
right, get it right. It'sright, not as long as the shoes,
but still it's still does along becauseit's just them too, because then
they do the dancing too where they'rein sequenced doing shoes right, And I

(37:13):
was amazing. It's funny they didn'thave to do this stop motion for that
and they could just do it butthey still chose, I guess, to
keep the theme going. Yeah,Like it's like like that dance room is
magical somehow or something. And againI feel like it's such a happy,
like fun, like whimsical style ofmove of video making. But then the
song doesn't really kind of match.Yeah, you're saying, you're saying the
lyrics are very sad, right,Well not sad. I mean I kind

(37:35):
of thought it was because like youknow, like I can't go back to
what it was. It was great, but I can't. You know,
there's no going back to It's thepoint of no return. Yeah, like
you've reached that point. Can't goback. You're gonna have baby nine months
now, you know. It's likeyou're projecting her. This is really this
is really good. We didn't takea break, right I could have sweating
in a corner. You might stopmotion animotion sweats right now you're with your

(37:59):
therapist. No, but I meanthis is the classic like early video where
someone just does a video to yoursong and there's no input from the band
because you know they're not Duran Durantor aren't they like, hey, let
me look at the lyrics or whatis this song? About let's just make
a fun whatever video. This guy'slike I already have this. I have
some people who do stop motion exactly. Yeah, I gotta stop momenting on
this. I gotta stop motion guy. And at that time, they were

(38:22):
new, like new shoes, werenew to the scene, so to speak,
and at least they'll take anything,yeah, big time, right,
But the thing was like, youknow, like and then compared to to
I Can't wait where like it's ValerieDay just being the entire show really,
and she just channeled like a proright, Like she was just like acting
out the lyrics and all that thesame year, acting like like she she's

(38:42):
done this like a billion times before, you know, and like like this
video, that video makes no sense. She's like has tools in a toolbox
and then there's a dog watching herwith sunglasses on, and it just it's
microfiche. Yeah, micro fishing around. That one didn't make sense at the
background from Mexican the Mexic Radio DesertWestern, It's it's the classic just throw

(39:07):
everything at the kitchen, you know, and see what sticks, right,
And I think it was more ofthe technology that they're trying to feature rather
than the story or narrative behind it. Well, that's what got me when
I was a kid. It's justlike I'm watching, Oh, all these
shoes are moving, yeah, andthat was cool. I mean there's you
know, Valide singing superimposed with She'sprobably on the blue screen, and you
got the shoes in the background doingtheir little motion. And then they form

(39:31):
flags as well, right at onepoint, Yeah, the British flag,
the American flag, Canadian, Ithink, Japan, France, Italy and
you know what, all of thisis par for the course, because you
know, I'm a big fan ofcommercials, especially like the eighties and nineties.
A lot of the commercials are verysimilar to this style of video making.
You know a lot of the peoplewho were doing videos were commercial commercial
Yeah, exact commercial directors. Sothat's that's because it's eye catching. You

(39:52):
know, like, look, man, it's imprinting on you forty years later.
You gotta sell the band. Yougotta sell the band. Yeah,
the songs already good, right,you just have to put some visuals kind
of and it's again, don't itdidn't have to do anything with the lyrics
or with the song meant. Itwas really just to catch some eyes and
be kept playing so makes some moneymaybe, hope. I actually saw like
a year before was the ABC's BeNear Me. You know, there's a

(40:15):
scene in there where it's stopped motionas well, where you got the you
know, the four piece band kindof just moving around a white stage by
stop motion doing random dances out ofit too. It's very similar too,
Yeah, exactly, you know,just no no other like like fixtures like
shoes, you know, yeah,there's no third party. It's just the
band. Really. That's like aclassic tropeing like the videos like Wang Chung

(40:35):
where they're moving back and forth andoh yeah, everyready have fun tonight.
Yeah, that was cool, justa little. Also what they were wearing
was cool, like their style andWhang Chung and and new shoes. They
always hang out in the same eighties. They're American? Is American? I
was, but I thought too,but not Chinese. It might be kat
with no hats. I mean,yeah, what do you think I think

(40:59):
of the you know, when doingthe Titanic dance where you're you know,
they're spinning at each other's arms andstuff. A Titanic dance, you know,
when they're holding at each other's armsand they're doing it spinning together.
To me, that's what it reallysells that you can tell that they're there.
They have that chemistry because there it'sit's it's real. You know,
they're they're actual. They're both lovehaving fun and having fun. Yeah.
John Smith is like smiles the wholetime, all the time, like,

(41:22):
which is kind of cool. Youknow. Yeah. I was saying he's
winning in life, man. Andyou know, hearing them in the podcast,
you can tell they're happy people.You know, there's not you don't
hear any sense of like regret orlike negativity towards other people towards what happened.
And they were just like they're kindof like like hippies almost. You're
just like, hey man, it'sall good. The way things happen,

(41:42):
the way things rolled out, they'rejust happened with it. And it's crazy.
They look almost younger now than theydid back then. They look great,
right, They're crazy. That's thateighties look. John Smith looked like
he could be like an indie band, right, like an older indie band
guy. You know, like he'sactually third keyboards for Wilco or something exactly.
Can't bring planning for Wilco. He'sthe session guy over the shins,
but no, you like they lookat it. I was like, whoa,

(42:04):
that's them. But because that's thething that they're happy and they're together
and they're still making they're doing whatthey want to do in life, you
know, and that reflects the video, right, like them dancing and like
doing their little thing. It's agood video. It's a good video.
And then finally after the little dancinginside because you get the flags right,
and then eventually they get out.But they're not in Hollywood anymore, right,
it's not. No. Yeah,it looked like it's like a sidewalk

(42:25):
up some like Turmol Canyon. Yeah. I think it's a Turmo kind enough.
It's downtown Portland, a way toPortland, stop motion. It's the
Hollywood side, right, Yeah,it could be any of those weird canyons
over there and d yeah maybe yeahChevez Ravine right the right. I guess
that they chose Peter Guerrero, whchose the wac of fame, right,

(42:49):
just just as a landmark. Right, it's just kind of it's gonna peg
you're that's what they are. Yeah. It was said that that wasn't them,
right, it was people wigs werebad wigs quote unquote right, just
some people because they had to takeoff right now. They were doing like
the recording session, busy, busytouring schedule, I'm sure, right as
they walked away into the sunset.So yeah, that's that's much. It's

(43:10):
the video, Yeah, that's it. I lose the video. But the
shoes are still following them, right, isn't it following that shoes? It's
it's a it's a It's like thepipe piper, right, it's a simpolist,
Yes, a pipe piper symbolism thatthe name New Shoes will follow them
forever. They know they could have, like a couple of years later,
they could have sold those shoes atany of one of the youth clothing stores.

(43:31):
Of me a lot. I mean, were there any shoes there that
you'd you'd like, Hey, Iwant that those are cool vintage. There's
a nice Converse in there, right, yeah, fans converse? Is he
Nikes? Is Nikes? I didn'tsee Nikes. I just saw fans in
Converse. It's kind of like thosekind of shoes. But I think Nike
would sue the New Shoes or anythingthey imagine sexes. I think no,

(43:51):
acres shoes. Actually, that looksI knew you were gonna get that out
with a little wings, to closeto the sun and you get burned.
I love Louise I fashion questions foryou, right to predict your psychology.
I knew it. He's busting theBellco experiment. I know, the guys,
A teacher is gonna it's a greatmovie, The bell I was just

(44:15):
watching it that too long ago.We'll be doing the notable YouTube comments after
these messages. All right, it'stime for the notable YouTube comments. Got
a couple here, guys, andI got a pretty deep one. I'm
gonna read that one first, sowe don't end on a sad note.
You know, sometimes I like topick the sad ones. There's a lot
on YouTube. Get your zen Xready, kids, There you go,

(44:35):
Here you go. This one's AT. This is from three years ago,
having fun, nineteen sixty eight.That's the AT for this person. Thank
you very much, Valerie. Wesang this song in combat non stop,
especially the part no turning back.It's much too late to go on now,
would you now? I would bea big mistake. That's a song,
right, I'm sorry. I readit like so terrible. Yeah,

(44:57):
the lyrics, Yeah, I wastalking about damn. It was our lucky
song. And I served five toursof duty. We lost one marine,
and I'm proud of that, especiallywith all of the firefights we endured.
God rest his soul. I myselfwas wounded on the last tour, shot
seven times in the right side,both my hips. I can't walk normal
anymore, but I'm safe and soundat home. God blessed those doctors and

(45:20):
nurses again. Thank you. Valerieseparate five. She's a captain of the
US Marine Corps. So like theGulf War or something, I guess.
So yeah, yeah, man's greatand they yeah, it was their lucky
song every time they sang it.They only lost one person. Five tours,
that's all. That's five tours,Yeah, with a lot of you
know, firefights. So that's prettyamazing. That's a pretty amazing story.
That's great. That is that isdefinitely notable. Imagine her hearing it should

(45:45):
be like feeling good and bad atthe same time. Yeah, Yeah,
it's a good story, but it'salso yeah, the next one, here
we go in another sad when I'mscared here at Mika Mika sixty two oz
two. It's from three years agotoo. Saw them performing twenty fifteen at
the Freestyle concert in Long Beach thatwe were talking about guys, Oh Lisa,
Lisa, Cult Jam, Sweet Sensationsand much much more. The crowd

(46:07):
was so happy, it was amazingvibes. The entire time. I missed
these days. So you know,I brought that up because you know,
I know that we've all wanted togo on those concerts and seems pretty cool.
Get yeah, I do want togo check on those that one day.
Here we go from Brett Preston nineteenseventy six around our age guys.
Back in nineteen eighty seven, Iwrote a letter to this band telling them
what a fan I was of theirmusic. Not only seven, not only

(46:30):
did they send me an autograph photoof themselves. The singer Valerie Day wrote
hand wrote me a letter of thanks. It was exciting to be a sixteen
year old boy at that time.I love this song. That's cool man,
that's pretty cool, right yeah,And then I'm surprised you've got some
really nice positive like heartwarm warming ones. No, there's a ton it's all
like you know, they everybody lovesthe song. I mean you know,

(46:52):
just the vibe of the band,right, yeah, exactly. It's you
know what, It's funny because ifyou if you get a chance, because
in the in the podcast, theguy the production people actually would insert some
of the songs that they currently made, like within the last five ten years.
They're actually really good because a lotof them are jazz and she's singing
like jazz style and the music makingit's funk but with also jazz. It's

(47:13):
very raw band, which is whatyou're saying, but a modern version.
And I was surprised, like,oh, you know, I want to
check out their new stuff actually becauseit's pretty good. It's really good.
I think that was like the originalconceit of the band was kind of like
jazz funk. Yeah, that's reallywhat they wanted to do. They just
happened to hit it at the righttime with the memories like I want to
make the funk you song. Yeah. Yeah. People leave and their bank
up getting smaller. I mean,it's hard to keep a band that big,

(47:34):
and they were. They were oneof those one of those bands that
just performed four or five times aweek, made a couple of hundred bucks,
just try to record until they hitthat one song, you know,
and they did a couple of songs. Actually, all right, it's pretty
cool. Okay. So in thenature of what a pop quizz is,
there's another pop quiz for you,okay, all right. In the early
eighties, new shoes had backup singersand a horn section. What were they

(47:57):
called a the shoe horns and theeyelets be the shoe benches. See Soul
Funk Brothers, Souls and Soul ofthe shoes, right or d old socks.
We go to the islets, eyeletsof the holes where you put your
laces through. I'm gonna go forhorns in the island. I'm gonna go
for the Soul Funk Brothers. SoulFunk Brothers, Ryan is right, and

(48:21):
the eyelets, but it's an eyeletter eye, It's not an eye,
but the eyelets. Yeah, theisland would be the hole where you put
your laces through. All right,So guys, the point in our return,
would you keep it or would youthrow it back? I'm going to
keep the video first of all.I don't want to say it's groundbreaking,
but in many senses I guess itis. You know, that's hard to

(48:42):
do that. What they were tryingto do. But I think above all,
it's mostly there the vibe they werekind of giving off with with the
music and them being a couple andand and then also hearing what their history
was about, you know, wherethey came from and where they ended up.
I think that's really humanized the Yeah, it's it's absolutely it's very nice
to a success story like that throughthrough arts, you know, because you

(49:02):
know most artists, it never pansout. You know, there's always some
weird, crazy tragedy. But they'reprobably wasn't their sixties now, and they
sound very happy and they're they soundvery excited about what happened to them and
what they're doing currently. And Ithink all of that combined, I think
it's it's right for a keep man. So definitely all right. Yeah,
As for me, I same thing. I'm gonna keep it. And you

(49:23):
expect this kind of video from PeterGabriel, right that big, but not
from a smaller band like this,you know, and it's it must they
must have been working crazy to getthat done. They were Grabby nominated though,
yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,but they artist, yeah, but
they didn't have the you know,they weren't around since the seventies, like

(49:43):
yeah, grinding, Yeah, yeah, grinding. You know they're crazy that
you're they've been grinding since the seventies. And then get best new artists in
the mid eighties, the mid eighties, seven years later. That's pretty wild.
But no, this is a greatvideo. I mean, it brings
me back. It brings back somany good memories for me. I remember
my mom playing this song all thetime. Yeah, yeah, this is
one of my classic you know,mom played the record, you know,

(50:06):
while cleaning the house, you knowsong and it's just always on. And
then me sitting in front of MTVfor hours watching this video too. So
no, this is a part ofmy childhood. And I love this song.
Yeah that's for me. Yeah,definitely keeping it too. I mean,
and I'm the virgin ears and eyesfor this one. And you know,
just seeing that it's the positive vibes, you just feel it. The

(50:27):
moment John Smith does that look thatPaul rud look at you, it's just
like that's it. I'm there,you know, And and just and they
had it looks like they had fun, you know, even though they had
twenty four hours and it probably wasa grueling schedule to them, especially trying
to get all the all the shoesmoving around. It's it's like a cynical
edgy person would think this video isstupid. I can't believe this, but

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like, no, no, Iabsolutely think that this video is amazing.
In the world where like everything yousee is like either you know, scrutinized
to the point that it's bad,like the but this song, you know,
granted, like watching this video,it just made me feel good about
myself and just like my outlook inlife, you know, just for that
brief three minutes and forty seconds thismusic video happens, It's it's amazing and

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you know, like like what you'resaying, like kind of does bring me
back to my childhood when I firststarted hearing this these dance kind of R
and B feel of music. Itdoes make you feel good, you know,
even back then, and then youthink about it now, it's like,
oh, during that time, youknow, these were like the party
songs, right, every family partyeverything. Always Yeah, they would always
play leading song anytime there's tequila andsprite. The song's playing in a backyard

(51:34):
Mexican party. Baby, it's themagic of that drum machine. And you
know what people were doing with it, and you know what, they're good
musicians, man, they are alwaysvery skilled deduction, like knowing the hooks
and the riffs. You know,cool, cool cool? Who's next?
I am next next? So scaredfor my next song. It's gonna be
ABC. Not ABC as in benear me ABC, but another bad creation?

(52:00):
Which song are you doing I show? Yeah? Oh yeah, I
want to get to know you better, so yeah, I U by another
bad creation. We have not touchedthe Philly scene yet. Anyway, at
the playground I have on vinyl.I play that a lot of parties.
Yeah. Really, it's a it'sa pretty hard song. So I'm good.
Looks like I'm sitting through Louis LittleCreate Creative eight ninety, nineteen ninety.

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Damn. I love this arra man, A lot of good stories.
So yeah, you know, tobe excited. I'm very excited. We'll
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he likes to collect the things he'sinterested in, which is perfectly normal.
He's got the expendable income, he'sgot the space in the room, which
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you have family. It's like,you're right, you buy what you want
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