Ep. 106-Everybody (Backstreet Boys)

TMVR’s back, all right! It's episode 106 as Al, Ryan & Louie conclude our spooky music video series for October with the Backstreet Boys costume party of a music video “Everybody (Backstreet’s Back).” We talk about the boy band and some of the quirks and features of their 1997 smash hit.

Episode Transcript

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Podcast. Hello and welcome to episodeone oh six of Throwback Music Video Review

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podcast, and tonight we will bereviewing Everybody Day by the Backstreet Boys.
Backstreets Back, Guys, what isyour history with the Backstreet Boys? First
of all, they never left.I don't know what you're talking about.
Everybody Backstreets Back as a song byAmerican boy band Backstreet Boys. It was

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released as the first single from theband's second international studio album, Backstreets Back,
in June nineteen ninety seven, andthe third single from their self titled
debut US studio album on March nine, nineteen ninety eight. That's a lot
of dates, man, although thesong was already being played in many American

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radio stations unofficially by importing the Canadiansingle. The music video was directed by
Joseph Kahn and has four hundred eightyfive million views on YouTube. Hasn't reached
billions after we talk about it,and it's gonna heat. We're gonna get
that mouse done. So, guys, did you know that the Drive Records

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sold them as the nick the WhiteJodasy. That's the idea of when Yeah,
back then to the director, tothe director, yeah, that's pretty
funny, like whoa because he didn'tknow who they were. Yeah, he's
like, oh, yeah, Iknow Jodasy. But had you asked me
two days ago, I would havesaid absolutely nothing. But after watching the
documentary last night, I know everything. I sent these guys a dossier of

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BSB and information, crucial BSB information. Louis is way too busy to absorb
all that, which is which isfine because he's a little smarter. After
that everything, I was kind oflike, why that what that Ryan was
writing a doctoral dissertation? Now,doctor Ryan? Right, it's funny because

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I was like, oh, thisis gonna be a fucking pill. Yeah.
I watched this for now in fortynine minutes subject these guys to it.
But but it was a right.Yeah, it's a real documentary and
it was well done. Don't getme wrong, I recommend it if you're
not familiar with them, but youare interested. But yeah, I know
everything about them, just like uhNick's first case with Howie, these all

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those little details. It's funny.It's funny, it's good. But no
I didn't. Of course, duringthat time when all this stuff was happening,
I was already a young adult andI did not. You know,
I was not. We were we'veestablished ourselves in a different kind of spectrum
of music. But of course weall heard it, yeah, pervasive,

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Yes, on TV, in theradio everywhere all the time. It was
more of a goof right, likewe made fun of I remember making fun
of oh yeah, all the videosI saw there. I was wet and
like tank tops and the exposed chest. Yeah, it's always that kind of
same feel. And yeah, Ididn't take it seriously, of course,
but I knew of them, butI never really was interested. But my
current partner loves them. I sawthem perform. So she was in the

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sweet spot yeah, and opened upfor like they opened one of those fairs
like this county fairs, a hugeone, you know it was. Yeah.
So so she was a BSB groupiehuh yeah, of sorts. Yeah,
that was kind of like that era, you know, And sync and
all that stuff. But that's it. I didn't know anything about them until
last night. I mean, thisis ninety seven. I was not in

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the Battories Boys headspace at that time. I was like, you know,
graduating high school and no, no, no, no, you know,
I heard the songs on the radioand I had a young, a younger
sister who is ten years younger thanme, so she was probably around eight
years old and she was probably playingall this sung. That's where I heard

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it, you know, through thatand my brother. Yeah. It's cool
to have siblings of different generations,so to speak, and I kind of
get you know, I still kindof get familiarized with their seitgeist. Yeah
yeah, yeah, And I wouldn'tlike, I would never like shit on
it because it's like, you know, it makes them feel sad, you
know, so it's like, ohthat's cool. I mean it's pop music.
I'm a pop music guy, solike it's good pop music. You
know. So as you get older, right, were of that age where

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it's like I can't really hate onthings anymore. It's like it's not really
healthy. Yeah, there's got tobe something that made it big. I
don't ever want I don't know aboutyou guys, but I don't ever want
to be that old fucking hipster inthe record store shooting on everything, the
stuff that I listened to when Igrew up. I don't want to ever
do that. It's a club butthe show and I'm on the beat.

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Yeah, you know they're just stealingfrom Pavement. So I didn't want to.
I don't have never want to likedo that. You listen to Luna,
Yeah, I know, I know, I don't. I don't ever
want to do that. So knowtheir songs are fucking catchy, that's the
problem. And I play this stuffwhen I DJ for people who want to

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hear it and who are going todance for it. So you know,
you got to know this. Thehits. So there's like this one,
and they have a couple of otherhits. What's the one where they're all
wearing white? Right? Eat nothingbut a Hu. Yeah, that's a
good song. I like that song. That's a good song, but that
video is just like, yeah,that's how we don't listen to but it's

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not. I don't know anything aboutthe Backstreet Boys, but I know the
last part of that song. It'sbeautiful ending of a song Nick Carter really
came. Haven't you got you?You were certainly a fan, right,

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Yeah, remember your jacket that youhad, you know, a tour jacket.
I had the tour jacket. Igot the patches and tour programs and
a rose. I remember the posters. I remember the posters at like the
record stores because you know what,you go through the posters you could buy
the right they had the big thingand then you go you have to find
the number and pull the Yeah,but go to any five below it's still

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there. There's a bad idea.Yeah, they probably still have batory boy
posters at five below right, right, because they have all the boy bands
there a lot of times like anold but definitely this was a you know,
Sam Goody Staple probably Tower Record Stablefor sure, right, totally.
Yeah. But now as far asmy history with them, you know,
same as you guys. I Ikind of dismissed it as you know,
I was pop music. I'm kindof not into it yet. And then

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but as I got older and youknow, listen to more nineties radio,
and of course there's a staple ofninetiests early aughts music, you know,
because I listened to a lot ofnineties two k A and serious accent,
and they're a staple there and soyou know, just have it in the
background. Their music is not verystressful, so I feel kind of relaxed

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when I was, so I'm alwaysin a good headspace. And then yeah,
like you know, like, oh, you know, they're pretty good.
You know, like I never gavethem much really a lot of hate.
I just didn't really pay attention becausethey were you know, I was
way too You're right, more sothat Yeah, I hear what you're saying.
But yeah, and then you know, I have a core memory though
with them. Where my niece's wedding, they played this song and I was
dancing with my mom. So wasit the whole not everybody? I was

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talking about the want that it's circulingsomewhere. I'm sure on you know,
we supposed that video of me dancingwith my mom. Nice. It's a
good memory. Yeah, like Ihad, I didn't listen to that.
I don't know anything about them,but like if this was on and I'm
like turning the radio stations and likeI went to Ki Rak and like Eve

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six or Third Eye Blind with them, I would rather listen to Backstreet Voice
at the time, like music wasso weird. I would rather listen to
the pop at the time than thealternative like k rock that was big,
like was those bands are like everClear whatever whatever it was live yeah,
live. I hated that stuff whereI didn't hate this, you know,

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where so I would That was aweird time for music, you know.
Also, you know it was atender age for for us young man at
that time. Oh yeah, wewere if we liked it, it was
almost embarrassing to like it because wewere so kind of like fragile ego,
you know, like that kind ofthing of like how could you like this
stuff? You know, I meanlike you still have that kind of mentality
as you get older, of course, like, hey, music's music,
right, whatever's good, it's good, right, Well, yeah, you

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don't. You have to stay inyour in your own lane back then,
right So, And I'm sure alot of twenty somethings are also dealing with
that right now. Everybody goes tothe same thing. Yeah, you all
go through that stuff. But youknow, let's not fail to mention that
this is the the final of ourhorror trilogy. Oh he's a video.
Oh that's right, Halloween season isthat it's a long episodes there, I

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mean, yeah, I mean it'sa day after you know, you know,
so yeah, this concludes the spookyseasons, right that. Pretty soon
we'll be doing the criz. Ihave a couple of Thanksgiving things, you
know, Thanksgiving win. This ismy episode, so I'll leave it up
to YouTube. And according to that, it says closing next episode, I'm

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in a hogg the entire November.It is my month, by his birthday
coming out. Yeah, as faras this song, everybody, of course,
I had a little renaissance in mybrain when after seeing This is the
End, This is the End Lovemovie. I love that movie. But
yeah, we're not gonna spoil thisis the end for you, but this
song is pretty crucial and it's anaward winning moment to at MTV Music Awards,

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m TV Movie Awards. Actually,okay, you seen that movie later?
Yeah, yeah, I don't thinkyou would spoil it for anybody.
It's been out for a long timeyears now. Jo performs at the end.
Yeah, Joe the White Michael lives. Okay, Hey, so yeah,
talk about history. Are you guysready for some pop quiz or do

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you want to talk a little bitmore about BSB. We didn't talk about
them, We just talked about us. What's the whole thing with them?
You watched the documentary documentary, Well, you know some knowledge. The way
the documentary was presented was it's throughtheir lens. They produced the documentary,
so like it's not a you know, Netflix produced documentary where they're all sitting
in the middle of the screen.It's very personal warehouse lighting. This is

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the documentary is pre or post theirmanagers suing posts that stuff. Oh yeah,
Well, the thing is fifteen,it's supposed to be their twentieth anniversary.
So they're getting back together. SoKevin left, right, the oldest
one. He left for seven yearsor so Doctor Jekyll in his video,
and he left for two albums andthen he came back and they wanted to
do something special for their twentieth anniversary, right twinty three to twenty thirteen.

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So this is to kind of likedocument them making new music. And what's
most surprising to me they all playinstruments. Yeah, and they're good the
drums, bays, piano, writingsongs. They're all like, yeah,
they can just a cappella it onthe fly. But what they do is,
of course they get pros to play, as they've already kind of created

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the skeleton of the music, soyou know, like brand new. Respect
I was very shocked. I didn'tI didn't realize that they were capable.
I thought they were just like manufactured, you know, but it turns out
that they actually can play create theirown music, Okay, And so the
thing is in sync was manufactured?Right, Yes, more so I believe.
Yeah. But the thing is eachof them kind of tell a story
like where they come from, theirtheir beginnings, you know, like where
they came from and how they met, and so each one of them to

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kind of take us to turn andtell us a little bit of story about
themselves. But overall it was pretty. I was pretty. It was eye
opening, right, Like a lotof I didn't know anything about them.
I mean to me, it's like, yeah, they were just you know,
pretty faces. But this kind ofreally humanized them because they want there.
You know, they went through thesimilar things that we kind of did,
but you know, not on amore pop level scale, but like
they also went through their own midlife crisis and you know, friends going

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through a dark path and they haveto intervene on their friends, be aff
try save their lives and you knowthings like that. And also he thinks
to cope with whatever sadness they got. But what kind of drove them into
their into what happened in their futurelives? Did they all? Were they
all like addicted into like that orjust Nick Carter and Ad Yeah, I
think it's just them too. Really. The other thing was Brian who kind

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of became the main singer. He'sthe wolf Man in the video. He's
uh, he has this thing calleddysphonia where like the muscles around his vocal
cords, so like he'll sit becauseall of them come right out. They're
like amazing singers, like armonized.So they go visit like their schools and
their and their music teachers and andlike they they got picked out because of

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their talent. Well yeah you haveto try out for those, yeah exactly.
So they got specifically picked out,and that's who they go back to
and like the people who inspire them, and you know, they give them
like hugs and you start crying.But the thing is he has this thing
like that's kind of like straining hisvocal cords, so he has to go
through his therapy, so he'll singand all of a sudden it falls out,
like the note will fall out andthere's no sound anywhere. So that

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was one of the central issues ofthe kind of like when they start fighting,
you know, are we sure thathe's not like a maybe like a
little mermaid that sold his voice toa witch and they got lost. I'm
just kidding. I don't to makefun of his he's you know, not
the thing that become something. Butyeah, yeah, and you know he
had that little screaming match during astudio like a studio like a session with

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his managers or something that they're tryingthey're trying to pick out which songs to
put on the album on his currentalbum, and him and Nick Carter,
who were like were the tightest asthey were kind of you know like coming
up and they start fighting. Manlike yeah, oh that's crazy, Like
no, like disagreeing that, likethe producers have to tell me they will
fix your voices, man, magic, things like that, like that,

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that's a dirty laundry. Then Ican't believe they actually aired there, but
because he was like I'm spicy.No one's talking about this bringing up right
now? Yeah, you know yourvoice sucks, bro, But you know
what what's interesting about them? Whata wide range man, when they were
coming up fourteen through twenty one.That's a big sweird, right, it's
a strange. Well yeah, whenyou look at Nick Carter and you look
at aj McLean, he look ajMcLean in his video has already look like

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he'sive. His hair's receding, youknow. Like, so it's like a
big there always has to be onethough he was receding in the boy band,
right is all fans So Kevin didn'tjoin them back er? He did?
He did for this one. Yeahhe was. He was part of
it. And that guy has eyebrowsfor days, right dude. Yeah,
well he's he looks like he couldbe like a movie star cay, Yeah,
straight up. You know what's funnyor just looking man? He actually

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you realize he's kind of like therock of the group because not only he
was the oldest, but he feltlike, oh these are my young brothers,
you know, and he was themost level headed. Huh yeah,
that's why he need to kind ofpull out. And the way part was
that he was talking about in thedocumentary he was the youngest brother in this
in this real Lion and it's reallyamongst his siblings. So then he got
put into this yeah curarently and he'sended up being the oldest, yes,
the most mature, like, andhe was one of those trying to like

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iron things out between the other rightwhen one of them had to go get
an invention, he was the guywho was like, you know, like,
oh yeah, because he was hewas they were doing like a show
and he won't show up because hewas cocaine down, cocaine bear it out.
Yeah, so like he was tryingto like knock on the door and
he's like, I would have killedhim if I if I was able to

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break it down. But you know, luckily, oh yeah he's fifty two
now right, I didn't realize alsookay older, but yeah, he's seemed
to be like the coolest all theywere all very cool, I thought,
but he kind of I kind ofhe kind of watched over everybody because you
know, the Luke Pearlman who wastheir their manager sort of right, I'm
kind of like, yeah, thatguy's shady as fuck. Man, So

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that dude is like what O theirbands did he have? He started in
sync? But I don't know anyother. He also started like a lot
of other boy bands are as bigas in Sync, like Take five or
something like that. Yeah, that'slike a smaller one. Yeah British though
I don't take that. I thinkthere's Take that and then oh there's a
Bus five. I don't know,but but he also had all these splintered

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boy bands. Was an he apart of Boys twelve or no, I've
the American the American dad. Ithink he tried to sign Bolts five.
But do you remember Japan at thattime and Bob's Burger's the boy band.
Yes, it's kind of like them, and the youngest one that Louise has
a big crush on. It's kindof like the Nick Carter or the band.
So he's like the youngest, yeah, twelve or Carter looks like Eric

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Trump now though he got over rightlike Eric Trump. I have to go
to court. But anyway, likethey, I remember they did a residency
in Vegas for a couple of years, and I'm sure that's very demanding for
you. I'm trying to cash that. Yeah, what are the backstory boy

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fans called? I don't know,but there's quite a few women with BSB
tattoos all over their bodies. Ohreally yeah in the dock. Oh you
know, what's one interesting alan we'retalking about earlier. They're huge in Europe
before they were big here like strangelylike, they went there and apparently all
the European boy bands were lip syncing. Oh, that's a huge thing there
and then and they rocked it straightup and and people went creight down,

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melted. Man, it's crazy.They called the Battreet Army. Really,
it's always like that, the BTSArmy and then the Backstreet Army. Damn,
nobody's ever like the Navy, youknow, the Coast Guard. It's
always army boy Marines, the BSBNavy, the Backstreet Voice, Salvation Army.

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Okay, pop quiz time. Inthe nineteen ninety eight MTV Video Music
Awards for the category of Best DanceVideo, everybody was beat out by this
song Okay A Will Smith getting jiggedwith It, B Madonna, Ray of
Light, C Janet Jackson Together Againor d the Prodigy Smack my bitch.

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Uh, I'm gonna go with theProdigy. I'm gonna go with Will Smith.
Ryan's right. Shit. I don'tthink there was a bunch of a
dancing video, though, I justremember being so huge. It's a crazy
video. He's very nineteen ninety eight. Okay, But however, nineteen ninety

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eight MTV Video Musical Awards, everybodydid win this award. Okay, a
Breakthrough Video, B Best Choreography ina Video see Best Group Video or d
Best New Artist in a Video.They weren't new, right, Well,
they're new to America, I guess, so I'm still going with choreography.
Right, there's best choreography. I'llgo choreography too. You're both wrong.

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They won Best Group Video. BestChoreography went to Madonna in Ray of Light.
But what's group video? Like?Groups like a boy? Groups like
a band? I guess in thevideo? Who else we're up for that
one? Best Group Video? Itis? Okay, Backstreet Boys, beat
Out, Garbage, match Box twenty, Radiohead, and the Verb What what

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what say? Yes? Well?Pop music? Pop music? I guess
that's all those albums were. Imean maybe the video sung it's not necessarily
an indictment for the bands, butthe actual song of the video it's probably
bittersweet, sippity video kids. Yes, you're right, Okay, Dad,
it's creep No Creek came out waybefore. Oh was it Plastic Trees?

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But there's no dancing in that one. No, there's no dancing, no
video video. Karma Police, OhPolice. And then Yeah garbage was a
song called push It and Matchbox twentythree am. But yeah. Breakthrough Video
that year was won by the ProdigySmack My Bitch Up. Best Choreography was
Madonna Rael Light, and then ofcourse Back to Your Boys won Best Crew
Video Best New Artist though in thevideo, you guys want to guess it's

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a it's a female singer, youknow, solo Tori Amos No, no,
Christina Aguilre. No, it's nother time yet, not her time.
Oh Bertie spears. No, it'sstill two years before. Okay,
breakthrough? Is it like a hiphop artist? No? No, No.
She did a cover song Skyrocket Into, you know, winning an award

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ten Angelica Angel Baby, I don'tknow, I don't know. It's Natalie
and Brouglia Born. Yeah, that'swhat's a cover? Yeah, it's a
cover by she covered it from oSe Natalie and Brouglia, Tori ams right

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Foreorn. Yeah, it's a coverBye three Ryan. She's did in nineteen
ninety six, So it was justa year after oh, a year after
more. Yeah, she got thebigger press. Okay, lightning round time,
guys, last question for the night. Okay, lightning round. Since

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the Spookie season, Universal Monster moviesare not Universal Monster this because of the
video. All right, okay,Louis Creature from the Black Lagoon Universal.
Yes, you're right. Yeah,yo, man, I know my Universal
movies. Yes, you're right,loit you got it? Ryan, Yes,
the fly controls the fly? No? Is that you're right? Louis
Doctor Jacky mister Hyde. Yes,he is wrong, it's not it's not

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Universal movie property. Check your italizationthere the classics because he's in because he's
in the Universal Dark Universe movie.Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah Doctor
Jekyll thing right. Yeah, butI think the original Doctor Jackyl mister Hyde

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was a BBC. I know it'slike a British yeah movie because there's a
Silent movie adaptation. Before Universal itwas Paramount's property. Oh yeah, okay,
this is very easy. Was itthe right? All right? Right?
King Kong? No is he Idon't know? Wrong? Yeah?

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They have the universal right there?Oh I didn't even connect it actual place.
Yeah, okay, thinking of theMonsters only. But I guess he's
one of the early the Beast oftwenty thousand fathoms. I'll say, No,
you're right, okay, Ryan thefifty Foot Woman, I don't think
so, you're right. Louis theBlack Cat, No, I was was

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in the Deep Cut Deep Cuts.Of course. You don't like Vincent Brice
movies. Now you're wrong. Itis a Universal property. It's a Betlegosie
movie. Okay, Okay, Ryanthe Blob, Yeah, I think it
is wrong. Okay, Louis Brideof the Monster, No, correct and

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find me Ryan Invisible Agent, he'sthat one the RKO pictures or something.
I don't know what to say.I guess maybe not. I don't know.
I know you're wrong. It isusual the Invisible Man man. Yeah.
Only they cleared the spin off ofUniversal you know in the fifties.

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You know the whole is that whenChevy Chase too or no, that was
that was? That would be funnyif it's like because it's like an agent
and then he's also the Invisible Man, so it's like an invisible Fletch right
Memoirs, Indivisible Man, right,Yeah, Chevy Chase verse, the Chevy
versus the Chevy Carla or something likethat. Okay, we'll talk about the

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music video after these messages. Okay, so I'm talking to music video for
everybody. So it starts out withAntonio Barcas Okay, Hockey Bear Fly guy
from I'm Gonna Get You, Sukka. So they record this in l A.
Right, I was thinking like,oh, he's probably in Florida,
but they recorded. I noticed thatthey recorded the video in l A.

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Yeah. Apparently it's at the CasperHouse. They recorded Casper with Christina Ricci.
Oh really, yeah? So yeah, it starts with Antonio Parky.
He's like a bus driver who dropshim off at this cast on. They're
on tour, Yeah, and somehowthey broke down, right, they broke
their Yeah, the tour bus brokedown, and then they're they're led to
this amazing yeah Castlevania. Yeah,exactly like Caslvanian Tipe house, like a

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castle that looks kind of like acartoon trying. Yeah's Ghostbusters. Let's animation.
That's like, I guess it's aproposfor Spook. It's very surreal,
like dreamy quality to it. Right, It's not you don't know if it
really exists, but somehow we'll walkup to it. Right. Well,
with the plot twist of this musicvideo, it's kind of a yeah spoiler

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there, So yeah, he dropsoff the boys, and the boys are
like, well, I don't know, man, it's kind of weird and
scary here. And then they gotjust like well, first of all,
no one's home. Yeah, noone's and they're not getting any permission to
like stay over right right? Right? Is it like an Arabian beat if
they're staying here? Like why arethey staying there? They go straight into
the covers like this, go straightto the house, right, and then

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to the rooms, separate rooms.You got Brian, right, he's just
a does he find like a weirdlike a taxi Dermayde rabbit or like yeah,
as he's trying to like settle in, he pulls in his bed,
he pulls out a taxidermy rabbit.He freaks out, and then yeah,
that's kind of how this video thesong starts. That's the intro. I
thought there's gonna be like some kindof barbarian situation where there's gonna be like

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some underground tunnels, there's a babybottle in there playing. That would have
been more awesome if they did thisin twenty first century, right, Yeah,
if you got Barbarian Airbnb twist witha really deep basement, it would
be like the like the little sawpuppet coming out and a little tricycle chasing
them. But yeah, so hefinds the thing and he turns it becomes
a werewolf all of a sudden,and we get introduced to each character,

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right, each character. So yeah, Brian the Trell is the were wolf,
that's right. And A. J. MacLean is the Phantom of the
Opera guy, it is correct,Kevin Richardson, the very handsome guy.
He's the two faced doctor Jackel andmister Hyde, right, I didn't know
that Jackyl and mister Hyde is isa you know, shape of water kind

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of creature. You know. It'salso he's all aquatic looking and reptilian because
I thought mister Hyde is just likea monster. No, he's a monster.
But I think for this purpose probablythe makeup artist can only do that
kind of Well. They also gotto make him hot, you know.
They kind of you know, puta two face on him and then he
looks all gross. You know,yeah, what if he's like Tommy D.
Jones's two face interpretation of him AaronK. Hart's two face where he

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has like a hole in his chin, he's slipping coins all over the place.
And then you got Howie d He'sDracula, right, and well Meana
Barker right, Mina Barker or Harker, Harker Ker's daughter had a daughter,
Spain Neutering. Everybody Harker as hisShe's there, She's there's been a Harker

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character, right. Yeah. Theactress Josie Moran, Yeah, according to
her i m dB. She isa model actress and entrepreneur. She was
in Van Helsing, Little Black Bookand The Aviator. It all comes back
to Ben Housing Hell Van Helsing.That was like the flavor at the time,
right, Well yeah, Vans cameout like four years later, but
still that was the Jackman era.They'll just throw Hugh Jackman and everything everybody

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hates. That's great. It's horrible, but it's like, yeah, just
have a good time, don't thinkabout it too much. Movie. Yeah,
it's cool. Man he has likea fucking gun that shoots spikes.
It's awesome. Yeah, he's likeBatman, you know, he's like a
bat like Transylvanian Batman. And thenfinally Nick Carter as the Mummy. Who's
your favorite monster not film monster person? No? No, from this group,

(27:33):
well from this group the how wedo is Draki? I thought that
was Stuart Townsend from there for asecond playing list that. Yeah, his
his makeup and the hair, thehair and the top hat. He looks
different from who he is as yousaw him on in the documentary, right,
and you know, so we basicallyget scenes with them being all,
you know, trying to be.The first scene was like the dance thing,
right, the dance yeah routine,before they all kind of splinter off

(27:56):
into their own kind of vignettes,you know. Yeah, so like they're
all easily about thirty people, alot of people, a lot of pair
dancing, and with the very famousdance moves that are still like being done
by other people. What right,very close to like the thriller dancers.
Not as crisp and clean as thethriller dances, but it's in the same

(28:17):
vein absolutely. I'm surprised Freddy's notin this because they're all dreaming at the
time, right, Freddy, comein. They spend all the money they
can't get Robert England on this he'stoo busy doing urban legend was Robert England,
not as Freddy. So after theythey all fall asleep, is that
what happens? And they they weonly see Brian fall asleep. But the

(28:40):
thing is, yeah, like Ithey were done on until the end that
they were all asleep. At thattime, I just thought it was just
the werewolf, you know, hemturned your werewolf in the Curse of That
House. Well you later learned thatthey all kind of had the same dream,
right, but they all shared samedream. But you know what,
some of the aspects of the musicVideA kind of remind me of like the
nine inch Nails kind of like youknow, it's kind of that era too.

(29:02):
You know, I'm talking about likethe quick those quick switch but slow
you know, I mean, likekind of to creep you out a little
bit, kind of give you lookan easy feeling. The ring kind of
like yeah, moves exactly. Andthen yeah, the slow mos as well,
kind of fast slow you know,right, thing, but like the
color of the filming and the palette. Yeah, it's very bad time.
It's very digital for the time already, right, it's what ninety eight I

(29:23):
mean, yeah, I saw withthe music video director here. You know
Joseph Kahn. You know he's thefriend of the podcast. Yeah, we
beat his old video. We've donea video that was secret video, secret
last episode video where available on anything, yeap, unless you're one of the
few who actually caught that last episodeon the way back machine. Yeah.
But yeah, he's well known fordirecting Bad Blood by Taylor Swift. That's

(29:45):
correct. And you know he fromwhere you can see, he's matured a
lot from let's say this video tolike fifteen years later, right, was
was that? And you know he'sdefinitely has better technology to work with.
But you know, it's very similarif you think about it, right,
Yeah, all the different kind ofscenarios that's happening. Yeah, it's still
it still has that same flavor,same flavor. But the thing is that

(30:07):
kind of rids me of like ashort film almost, you know, like
because it's you get these pieces thatconnect somehow at the end, right,
there's a narrative thread throughout the wholething, right, Yeah, But yeah,
he's you know, Joseph Cohn.He's done a lot of collaboration with
them since you know this music video. But I think this is the first
time they actually collaborated, but hehas directed other ones, right with the
Backstreet Boys, he did uh ohyou know he directed the music video with

(30:27):
Shack Oh your favorite person, rightRob Thomas. Yeah, he directed Acorn,
he did. He did it forCorn. He did a new edition
music video hit the Year, HitMe Off nineteen ninety six. Oh wow,
imagine Dragons onyx Ladyga Warrenge a newedition I'm Still in Love with You.
I think he was initially like Rand B hip hop early in his

(30:49):
years, right, did a musicvideo for Muse Destiny's child, My Name,
My Name. Yeah, he's prettydiverse here. Yeah, he was
young at that time too, right, he's as old as Kevin Richardson.
Yeah, he's like twenty something atthat time. Spent his childhood in Italy
and then moved to Texas of coursea right, and they went to art
school one of the most pious proceduresart schools in New York. Wow.

(31:11):
But yeah, so you know there'sthere's a lot of good dancing numbers here.
Yeah. I mean even in thesingle like their Own Stories, they
do some cool Yeah that that danceris really big with the big like spiral
on the floor. That all likedancer is pretty cool, right, there's
just so many dancers so you can'tand then the cuts are so like fast,
you can can't really see the movie. That's why it looks kind of

(31:33):
like sloppy, sort of, Ithink, because everybody's so crunched together.
We're like when you when you lookat Thriller, you know, people are
spread out and they're almost like exactlyspread out from each other. It's so
precise, you could really and theychose like the maybe like the six or
seven awesome ones, and it's closerto him. Yeah. Yeah, Jackson,
Yeah, if you have to compareit exactly, says that, uh
yeah, they apparently shot this entirewhole thing for thirty six hours, so

(31:57):
that's a day and a half anda half. Well, they said five
hours to make up on five hoursyou have to put the Wolfman makeup on,
which isn't even really that. Wedid watch a lot of it,
a lot of it. His hairright, like extensions too, hair and
stuff, tensions. Yeah, andthey have all these sketches of you know,
what he should look like. Imean, imagine be a concept artist.
That's kind of cool job that alwayswanted to be a concept artist never

(32:20):
so they interviewed in the product.Yeah, yeah, that was so.
Yeah. It took him ours formakeup, especially the pizza face Phantom the
Opera one. That's right, they'rejust adding pizza topping, you know,
and just put that little, youknow, silver half mask on him and
listeners if ever interested. There isa behind the scenes kind of bt S

(32:40):
of the bs B the PS onthis the making of this, yeah,
which was interesting, hosted by yourvery own It was probably spun. I
mean I expectedly the spun. Well, I was thinking a little bit over
active, but delivery. Yeah,it's cool. Should everything, the way
they put the makeup on, Yeah, I was appreciated when we get a

(33:02):
music video that has a BTS.Yeah, of course, what if the
like Phantom of the Opera wasn't reallythe Phantom of the Opera. He was
like the son of Pizza the Hutor something like that, Brooks. They
didn't get the rights, so they'relike, all right, Pizza the Hut.
Man. I remember seeing Pizza theHut when I first saw Spaceballs,
and I'm like, man, thatguy looks cheesy. I want to eat.

(33:23):
Oh, girls, I thought youwere reading like cheesy, like bad.
It was really cheesy pizza, likeso cheesy, my perfect pizza,
like just dripping with cheese. I'mlike it worked on you. Yeah,
got me, man, Alright,get back to the you know, a
lot of dance numbers. Apparently JosephKhan made a conscious decision. Apparently the
zeitgeist of the nineties was you know, race riots and all that. He

(33:46):
wanted to have a diverse dancers inand he was having a hard time getting
actual diverse dancers, which I can'timagine really, you know, but he
had to hire living and living colorsfly girls as well to be part of
the Well he was in l Atoo. Yeah, so maybe they're just
not like well, maybe there's alot of they're all like in New York
or something like that. Only that'strue. The dance schools are over there.

(34:07):
Yeah, tell me there's this juicygig here, go fly here.
You know. But but yeah,but he was talking about in the I
think even in documentary he was talkingabout it. It's kind of hard to
get everyone. But he said thathe wanted, you know, that kind
of thing, and you know,and back then too, he was also
surprised that compared to how things areNow we're like, oh, yeah,
you got someone who's multi racial dancingtogether. No one really blinked an eye,

(34:29):
but now it's like, you know, you got all the watchers.
Alpha males would be all pissed aboutthat. I'm like, oh, you're
pushing diversity on us, fucking dumbglasses. Yeah, slant al slant segment.
Sorry, it's just like, butwe have to bring it up because
that he brought it up to mewhen I watched this too, I'm like,
I didn't even think about it.I never thought about it because I

(34:49):
thought everybody was in costume or atleast and the song is called everybody You're
not gonna have all, you know, freaking one race. I think it
was it was not a good ideato have that any dancers, because I
feel like they didn't. It almostdidn't stand out, like I don't really.
I mean, the Basti's boys werestill front and center. Of course,
those dances were cool. You know, it's simple. It's very simple.
But I like the little kick,the little wrist action they're doing,

(35:10):
the and the mime like actions.It is very cool, but there's too
many people in the back. Ithink, yeah, they need to kind
of like I mean it down tomaybe when it was like a party,
the party's big shot crane shots withthe party scene. That looks cool,
but when they got close down forthe it's kind of there was a K
pop band and did that. It'lljust be them exactly straight up. Yeah,

(35:32):
the more like the Front Street boysthere, huh the Forefront Street boom
there you go out with an explosionright there. But okay, that's that's
about the mummy. Nick Carter isthe Mummy. Apparently it was. He
was having a hard time with thatone, and he was being the youngest
and his scene was the last thingseemed to be filmed, so he felt

(35:52):
kind of just by himself, andhe didn't want to be a mummy.
He wanted to be the creature froma black lagoon, but they couldn't do
it, so they made him amummy. That's what he said. That
was the first choice was the creaturearound blackly Good. I was like,
oh, we can't get the license, bro, Well they can't cover that.
That the money maker. You know, you have to wear a mask
and they didn't want to cover themoney maker. Oh I know that's true.
And not only that, it's alsothe uh it kind of ties into

(36:15):
their own kind of internal strife becausehe wanted to be Remember he was originally
like the voice, right, butthen Brian comes in and that kind of
takes over. So that's why theyhad that fight. Oh right, So
yeah, he always has this thingabout it like this like inferior complex almost,
and then it kind of goes withthis. You know, he wanted

(36:35):
to be this character but instead hecouldn't do it. He always the last
one. Yeah, and he's theyoungest, so you know, he's got
like that little brother of syndrome kindof thing, you know, and he
probably has the most like young girlsafter him, like probably, Yeah,
he's probably the youngest. He's goodlooking, right, he sells the most
shirts and buttons, you Knowator Magnet, Like there's a ton of Howie buttons,
so they haven't been sold in likebut because all the Nick Carter ones

(36:58):
were all taken a matt tons oftons of Howies, but Nick fats are
huge at this time too. Yeah, yeah, the booming Internet, a
O L c ds as well flyingout. They had dolls too, I'm
sure they did. Yeah, Iknow, the end Sync dolls. Dolls.
Yeah, I'm sure they did too, sure because new Kids on Blackhead

(37:22):
Dolls too. Oh that's true,fore fathers of it. Yeah. Oh,
we didn't mention n KO TV atall as a progenitor because they didn't
mention it one documentary like you know, oh so they there was one scene
in the documentary where they were performingat the high school. One of the
things where like, oh, there'slike seventy seventy five percent African American kids
and like maybe like five percent likewhite kids. So they were kind of

(37:44):
a little bit, you know,like nervous about it, but they're there.
P eight like died. Oh yeah. Yeah. They had to bust
a cappellas and everybody was like,oh, you guys are just new kids
on the block, wanna bees?Oh really yeah. But then they rocked
let's let us sing and they startsaying and they were like and everybody was
all the fun. Yeah. Theythey took the room all over. They
did what they did in England.Man, that's pretty cool. Yeah,

(38:05):
they won over everyone with the like, Okay, they're they're not they're not
hacks, you know, they're they'reactually they actually have towns to show their
challenge. It was much respect forthem. On that one, because yeah,
I would have melted down if Iwas when they come guard, you
had run off stage like Ashley Simpsonwhen the records sipped. When when they

(38:25):
skipt, you're like, I'm outof here. Bro, you guys rot
taking the flame back of the wolfMan makeup on a Oh you can get
past Usa to run that then prettyeasily. But but yeah, and then
yeah, Nick Carter was in theMummy that Iron made it look so uncomfortable
though, right, it's Iron Maidenand mummy is a thing. I've never

(38:46):
heard of that, and I thinkthey're trying. It's trying to be like
a casket, right, or likea cop. Yeah, so that wasn't
Iron made it, but it lookedlike a lot like an Iron Maiden.
I think it was Iron. Imean they probably that's it. The prop
department only had Man. We can'tfind us a comic, but we got
Desire Maden. I mean, youknow, like Iron Man looks cool but
like lit visual. Also it's usuallylike jewel laden with like all gold,

(39:08):
right, yeah, the mummies,I mean, obviously he's not an Egyptian,
so it would look weird. TheStargate was pretty big still around that
time, right, so they probablywant to touch up on the stargate market.
Well, they do the like thelittle separate things, right, where
like they're with the girls in therelike a little individual room there later,

(39:30):
right, But everybody gets one ofthose except for except for Kevin. Yeah,
he's the only one. So Iwas wondering if he had a girlfriend.
And he's like, oh, Icand of do stuff with girls,
knows, right, some backstrete dramain there, like yeah, he's in
the library by himself. Yeah,yeah, just reading books, being Doctor
Jekyll, Doctor I wants to bein the shape of Water. Yeah,

(39:51):
so he's in the library. Andof course the Iron Maiden with the Mummy,
and then Dracula had the girls.Yeah, the girls also the Phantom
a pretty nice dinner thing going on, and his own had two women.
Oh that's true, that's right.A lot of his scenes were him coming
out of the right, he hadhis moments with them. Yeah, yeah,
they all had That's the thing thatstuck out to me. I was

(40:12):
like, well, they all hadgirls in their thing except for Doctor Jekyll.
So that's why I was like,I wonder if he was like married
at this time or something, andhe was like kind of too old,
and he's like, I don't needthe supermodels around me. Yeah, I
get in trouble. I'm good again. The intro and the and the wolf
Man. Did he have his owncrew? I just remember him flipping around
in that dance a lot of gymnastics. That's that's pretty remarkable. There's that

(40:37):
scene too where he kind of jumpson the wall. Then they reverse it
and yeah, comes back to normal. Yeah, he was doing more like
Jim Cotta stuff. So there therewas a scene where there was like a
weight staff, like a butler.Oh yeah, yeah. What was that
though? Was that the without thedinner scene? Who was the character the

(40:59):
man with the phantom and that wasyou think? So? Right? That
was the dinner scene? Right?Yeah, I don't know. I mix
them up with Dracula once in awhile because the scenario looks the set looks
very similar. But yeah, there'sthe Yeah you got the old man,
Butler's very That's what we probably arealluding to when you say nine is nails
exactly. Yeah, those kinds ofquick kind of yeah, it's like it's
so random and creepy at the sametime. Try to give you that uneasiness

(41:21):
of a Halloween music video. It'sa tradition lay bels why but yeah,
it's it's you know, it's verysparse storytelling, plot or anything like that.
It's just a display of makeup effects. And they did spend one million

(41:42):
dollars of their own money to nobodywanted to fund it. Huh. Yeah,
the study didn't want to fund itbecause they didn't believe in them.
Yet Wow, they recouped it whenit became successful. Yeah, at least
from what I read right the video. That's crazy apparently like was it again
the Jive Records or whoever? Itwas the one records I wanted to sign
them original but John Cougar Mellicam saidthat, oh no, no, I'm

(42:02):
sorry. It wasn't. Drive Recordssigned them. Signed record Oh yeah,
they signed them, but like therewas a record company that was actually pretty
major want to sign them first.But record label also had John Cougar mellcamp
and he said, if you're gonnaget in the business of boy bands,
I'm out of your record label.And they opted not to sign them because
of John Cougar mellencamps or threats hits. After that, yeah, they started

(42:24):
another boy band, John Cougar concentration. You love that one. That's funny
one, the funniest. I can'tbelieve I got you stupid you actually listen
to What do they sound like?I think like a punk band? But

(42:49):
anyway, but yeah, that wasanother thing, like imagine he had that
much of a pull in the inthe early nineties to tell a complete major
record label tell him what to do. Who was it was Mercury Mercury Records.
That's big, Yeah, that's big. Yeah. So yeah, John
Cougar Mellencamp started to leave his longtimelabel Mercury in nineteen ninety three. If
the label got into the boy bandbusiness and signed the Backstreet Boys, and

(43:12):
is at the time like that JohnCougar was doing like the America probably right?
Is that one of those sounds likeit would be around that time.
But who sold more records out JohnCougar Mellencamp or back Yeah backs Boys?
Right boys easily? Right, JohnCouper? What maybe like twenty million records?
Oh for Jack and Diana. That'sit right, that was like his
biggest hit, right, I thinkso R O c K in the USA?

(43:34):
Oh, that's right? That God, that price sold pretty big about
sixty million. What think like halfof that half of the see let's see,
let's look, let's look curious.I'm curious just for being a prick.
You know. I'm sure if youlook that up, it'll come out
who sold more records? Backtory Boysor John Cougar. But I mean boy
boy of all time again Okay.Mellencamp is a rock and Roll Hall of

(43:54):
Famer in two thousand and eight anddoesn't mean and uh, let's see tap
single nineteen eighty two, sixty millionrecords worldwide, half of Backstreet like BSB
baby Yeah. Oh, and hislatest album, Original Songs, came out
this year June. He came outtoo long ago, so he sold half
of what they sold Mercury Records fromhe's been around longer. The funny part

(44:16):
is he's no longer in Mercury.Well yeah, Mercury Priby drops from after
like that, they're like what andthey signed like Boys twelve or some other
band that didn't hit Yeah, soso yeah, and then in the and
the like, you know, theboys wake up from their dreams and you
got they're like, yo, man, I had the worst I had the

(44:37):
craziest dream last night yo were here, Yo, yo, dog had the
craziest dream last night. Yeah,they have kind of like a southern twang,
but also also kind of street yeah, urban street, kind of a
flare to it. It has atactical no regrets on his on his shoulder.

(44:57):
But it turns out right, goahead ahead, no, no,
go for It turns out they allshared the same dream. Yeah, yeah,
you call that right, right,all five of them, five characters
in search of an exit, searchof a dream? Is you got Antonio
Fargas open the door? Oh he'sa he's a monster. He's just a
cut up a little zombie guy Frankensteincharacter. Is that what he is?
Universals? Yeah, oh okay,and then yeah, then the classic guy's

(45:22):
film shot film angle of all backthen right, the fish all just screaming
as goofy as possible, and that'show the video ends, very colorful.
So did he murder them? Isthat the I? Probably I would?
So did he murder them? Yeah? It's like he got torn apart put

(45:42):
together right like Frankenstein. See howthe cuts on its stitching and the cuts
maybe like the wolf Man attacked himand now he's half wolf man too.
Imagine like you're a Frankenstein, andthen Draccula bait you, and then the
Wolfman also attack you, and youbecome this ultimate hybrid of dragsal Monster,
Drack and Frank, Frank, Andaankawill Fee, Frank and Quila. I

(46:02):
think the Ghost Breakers would do himpretty good video. And that's funny too,
like a little bit on Antonio Fargus. He was like he was actually
surprised that back to your boards Ahuge fan of his work in Starsky and
Hutch. That's true, right,that's why they ironed him. Yeah.
When did the Arc and Hutch moviecome out? The remake? The remake?
I saw it like two thousand andsix, I think, Okay,
so that's this is like way beforethat thing, right yeah, way more.

(46:24):
Yeah, that's so strange that theygot him for it. Yeah.
Yeah, it could have been goodfor him. He got a job.
Yeah, but he's been acting ata gig. He's got a lot of
he got a lot of credits.Yeah. Yeah, he'll always be fly
guy to me, I was,okay, we'll be right back for some
notable YouTube comments. All right,it's time for the notable YouTube comments.

(46:52):
Okay. At XO hexo three ninefour eight says the amount of times I
think about when that guy says amI sex shoe and his mates are all,
yeah, that's my favorite line.And then I'm at Kylie seven's nine

(47:14):
one six says I got grounded asa kid for screaming am I sexual?
Yeah. I didn't even know whatI'd been grounded until way later as an
adult. And it finally clicked intoplace when I heard it on the radio
and the memory came back. Asyou're getting crowded like you're like seven years
old, at Linn Neira six fournine two says, oh right, that

(47:34):
was the era when music videos didn'tmatch the music at all. I almost
forgot it's so true because like,how does this connect with that? Right?
It doesn't at all. Yeah,it's just like, oh, we
got we got some props. Wegot this Iron Maiden, so let's use
it. Yeah, they'll at theCasper House, the Casper House. Let's
just do this. I mean,granted, like I think the better the
video for I mean, the theending of this is the end is way

(47:57):
better this music video anyway. Andfinally, gm A Gain says, I
was at eight years old when Ilearned the House. Interview with the same
from Casper. I'm gonna delete thatone because that one's you really sold that
one. We're just gonna I'll keepit. Then I'll keep that instead.

(48:22):
Okay, guys, everybody, wouldyou keep it or would you throw it
back? Two days ago if youasked this question, I wouldn't keep it.
But after last night, Ryan,right, Ryan, find a level
level field with the problem man,you know, find a common ground with
them whatever. What I'm realizing asI get older and older, I empathize

(48:45):
with people, and I think that'san important area of growth and all of
us. So. But actually,yeah, you know what, I think
they tried hard with with the video. I think they were just trying to
have fun, but at the sametime kind of ride the wave of their
popularity. You can't go wrong withmonsters. That's the shirt I'm wearing right
now, your grave right in thisdate of his death. The picture of

(49:15):
you shruggh like emoji though, well, that tells you that I'm gonna keep
it. I like the dancing.I thought it was cool. What was
your favorite part of this music video? The dancing so dancing. I like
the moves. Yeah, it's enduring, clearly, right, this is the
end, it was like the wholebit of the whole bat thinking about it.
But also it's still something that Ithink the fans remember, like what

(49:36):
the what do you call that?When it's a group choreography a very thriller
thing, right, I mean no, it's like TikTok dancing exactly, And
that's what it becomes, right thatit never ends and it's one of those
kind of everlasting things because everybody wantsto do it. Remember the moves,
Yeah, like mo mob mob,the flash mobs, right, and that's
kind of the time too, andyou know that stuff started happening after that,
so I mean know, it's it'scool, it's it's you said,

(49:57):
it has nothing to do with thesong. But again, overall, I
mean as far as the video,if I'm grading that, and over all
the band, I think they workedhard to where they got putting all that
into factor. I think you know, it's a good key for them.
Yeah, definitely Ryan's keeping it now. You go, all right, he's
gonna he's gonna scan my my opinions. No, I have my opinion as
for me. You know, likewhen I first saw this video, uh

(50:22):
well, I was this is gonnabe my Halloween video from last year,
but we kind of had a highage. But have you seen this back
then? I saw this back then. This was gonna be the video I
was going to bring up for theHalloween season episodes for me, and I
thought, this movie, this videis so fucking dumb, but it's gonna
be brilliant to talk about in theriff on, you know. But yeah,
like the documentary kind of also makemade my head kind of I'm like,

(50:44):
you know, like, yeah,you know what man like when they're
crying with their music teacher and likethey got bullied a lot, they got
booed, but they actually had naturaltalent. Then you know, like wow,
that's you know, like I can'thate on that, you know.
But this video in a Vacuum,though I think it's bad, it's really
bad. The acting's bad, butI think it's meant to be cheesy.
But at the same time, yougot a couple of the Backstreet boys acting

(51:06):
all hard. You know, theyactually take this seriously. So I'm kind
of midway, like, you know, like I empathize with them, but
but this is like I guess,I don't know, I'm on the fence,
like that little dance movie doing theLittle Mind. That's why I wanted
him to go because I know ifhe heard mine he said, it would
have made it kicked him over thefence. This is what I'm gonna do.

(51:30):
I'll throw back the music video.But I really like this song.
I really like the song. Isit your favorite song for No? Well,
I had the core memory with Iwant it that way, So that's
that's my way. That's like overwhelmingfavorite song from him. So so yeah,
I'm throwing it back though, becauseit's it's tacky. It is tacking
in general, and I know alot of work was put into it,

(51:53):
but you know I didn't hit themark and hit the mark man, Jose
the Khan man. You know,get your act together. We can't wait
to review your bad Blood music videoin the cause of feature. Is that
the one with an invisible car?That's it? Yep? Kendrick Lamore,

(52:13):
Kendrick Lamar, I think I feelthe same way as out, So I'm
the song is I'm keeping the songwith the video songs a banger? Yeah,
I mean it's no, I wantit that way, but it's it's
second I want it that way.The thing is, there's no like there's
no cohesiveness with the song in thevideo. It's just like we have the

(52:35):
stuff, let's just do it,or we want to dress like monsters,
let's just do it, which thatalways is is tricky and it makes the
video kind of cheesy, and Ithink that's what they're trying to go for.
But like you said, there issome serious in it. Though it
seems like, oh, we're gonnado this, it's gonna be funny,
but then they it got serious,you know. So that's kind of like
the thing because they are in thedocumentary, they are kind of trying to

(52:57):
be sort of like the monkeys andtrying to make fun of them, you
know of stuff. You know.Yeah, So, but I think I'm
gonna throw it back because if thedancing was tighter, the dancing is really
good, but it's it's not Imean, if you're gonna do horror in
dancing, I mean, come on, man, you got you got tall,
you got you got a big shadowman. So yeah, it's a

(53:19):
soft throwback for me because yeah,they did put a lot of work into
it, and it's it's it's welldone with some of the shots, some
of them are kind of funky,like the blurry ones that are like far
away and stuff like that, butno, it's a throwback throwack to Yeah.
And then they also threw it likeI didna mention this, but you
know those weird distorting faces that wouldcome r that, like it's a very

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c G I, very ninety cG I like liquid matrix face, So
it would just kind of come outof nowhere. That was that was a
weird touch. I do. Ijust want to say this, I do
have one knock on the BSP,the current BSP, at least the documentary.
They're they're like the music they wrotefor that, right, that's the
journey, right, That's that's whatthe document got. All the kind of

(54:00):
Christian Gospelly kind of sounds kind ofthat kind of lost the edge of the
like the well, the pop edge, but not just a pop but also
like that like you know, likeyou want to go to the club and
like they run to it. Kindof it's not like that they went to
and there's no more like am Isec nothing. It's it's like redemption and

(54:21):
like a new Lisa on Like yeah, it's like it looks like a born
again kind of it sounds like them. It's not, but it is.
Yeah, like I mean, atleast that's what the our scope of that
that part of the documentary show.But to me, it's like, I
think their back houck is way toostrong to you know, just get to
get overlapped by this whole and youknow, create a bit show them performing
to in front of thousands of peopleand they were singing the song song they're

(54:45):
still and they're oh, yeah,to talk about this too. The choreography,
the dance practices they were doing,they were just like they're dead.
Yeah, and they were like,well, you know, like we got
fourteen days so the first show blahblah blah, and we're so behind.
So but yeah, that's a testamentto how hard, Yeah, these guys
are. The boy band thing isthe boy band thing and the girl group

(55:07):
thing, it's super fucking hard,Like you have to do everything. Like
there's I don't understand how they singand dance, Like how aren't you out
of breath? You need you needbreath to sing? You did great condition,
you know, so like to singhim dance is that's insane. So
you know, if they're not dancing, they could probably hold one of those
long you know, I mean notes. It helps to be I guess,

(55:28):
a very talented singer to begin with. They're just like saying. It's like
having keeping a note is just likeyou speaking. So that's probably part of
a lot of them come from thetheater background to a lot of movement and
like and you know, like sayingthings and being loud. And I never
think about that because the one theaterguy I know, kensing for his life.

(55:51):
We'll have a time capsule of ourtheater. But yeah, so to
throwbacks, one keep writing and youguys surrounded here. You got flanked by
the by the throwbacks. We keepthrowing. Okay, we're throwing the music
video at you. You're like,oh fine, I'm keeping both of them.
I got sold in the dock.Man. You know, I didn't
watch the doc. So maybe Iwatched the doc. I would have been
like you would have Yeah, itmight have been You'll realize they're good,

(56:15):
man, they're singing their skilled.I can't believe it right there anything,
man, it's like they are theyare a white jodasy as they would say.
But it's like that, I don'tknow where it even comes from.
Well, I heard the and Iwanted that. I mean that's the the
without yeah, without the so justthat we're like natural voices of angels.

(56:35):
Un believable. That's where the girlsare. Okay, So that concludes the
episode. It's not your turn alreadyseven months? What you got for us?
Thanks Thanksgiving? We have this iswhat nineties, nineteen ninety, nineteen
ninety seven, this is ninety seven. So we're going to go back,

(56:58):
what fourteen years into the past.So we're gonna go back to the past
for nineteen eighty three. Treat TracyAlmonds. They don't know Tracy one of
her hits man before she was aTracy Omen from The Simpsons Tracy Ullmen show.
I mean, yeah, wow,oh cool. They don't know.
Yeah, I know that she wasa singer. But right, but it's
a cover of Christy mcnicholl. Ibelieve is Christy. It's not her version

(57:22):
of torn be funny, all right, Tracy? Next episode? They don't
know. They don't know. Idon't know. Have you guys seen the
video? No, I haven't.Okay, I've seen one of her videos.
Maybe that's fine, Yeah, probablythat one. Does she dress in
different opit? Huh? Does shedo blacker much? Okay, we'll see

(57:43):
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(58:07):
quiz. Okay, all right,longest note held by Morton Harget from uh
huh, what is the longest notehe's ever held? Held? Seven years?
Seventeen minutes? Now it is?You gotta breathe, dude, dude,
he did one minute and forty fiveseconds, two minutes and thirty five
twenty two point two seconds, becauseyou're hitting the E note and take on

(58:30):
me. I'm sure he has.Probably it was probably take on me.
I'm guessing, right, Yeah,isn't that the line? Yeah? Seconds?
Well, I don't know. Thatcould feel like an eternity. Try
it. I's try it relativity,right, Okay, okay, okay,
let me drink my water. Igotta hydrate. Okay, it's not water,

(58:52):
by the way, it's eyes too. Okay, twelve seconds not even
close. I'm not a professionally vocalizedsay here, but that is impressive that

(59:15):
he can do it for twenty twoseconds, ten more seconds than I do.
I think we find our addic.So yeah, it's all that smoke
salmon eats there and right, allthat herring, Yeah, all the red
ead, all the ludifists that he'sbeen packing in se is eat that Norway,
what is the one the remember?That's all. It's also in bobs

(59:37):
Burger where they find the whale.Uh no, Ambergris, Ambergriss, you
know the whale thrower keeps him looking. Yeah, he looks so young.
Still he doesn't look young man.His voice is still the smoke harring,
right, I think it is becausethey eat it like that, right?
Yes? Do you know White Casper'sa ghost? Like who killed him or
how he died? His parents killedhim? Fu, he's crying too much?

(01:00:01):
Is that really? No, there'sthere's actually a bastort. I think
he died in a carcient that's agood question. Why is the ghost?
Are you just like? Why areyou so friendly? Like too? If
you're a Trolo and you're like lightskinned, your name is Castler, you're
always cast for right, right,you're like mildly blonde. Do you have
any caucades in qualities? And you'regonna call you Casper. According to the
film Casper's twelve year old boy,and he died of pneumonia. Man,

(01:00:22):
it's messed up, not from likedysentery. In the eighteen hundreds, PA
drinks thirty one back then thirty oneterlike what do you would Packer pooped into
the water. He died