Ep. 107-They Don't Know (Tracey Ullman)

In case you didn’t know, Ryan, Louie & Al are back again with our review of legendary comedienne, Tracey Ullman’s soulful 1983 smash hit, “They Don’t Know.” A lot to unpack with this one.

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Tracy Omens. They Don't Know.They Don't Know is a nineteen eighty three
cover song by bird singer and comedianTracy Allmen. It reached number two in

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the u K And number eight inthe US. They Don't Know What was
originally recorded by Kirsty McCall in nineteenseventy nine and covered by Ohman in nineteen
eighty three for Stiff Records. Themusic video was directed by the record company's
president, Dave Robinson, and asof this recording has reached one point three
million views on YouTube. On theirVivo count on her Vivo is it her

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Vivo? She has? There's severalkind of releases, but oh, I
know her Vivo counts the main one. So okay, So guys, what
is your history with this song orTracy? First, Well, happy Thanksgiving
to everybody, and everybody had agood time. I'm sure right, yes
we did. Yeah, there wereten pounds every year since the last time
I recorded. I'm a little groggythe turkey. We're still working here,

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so it's not but Ryan, Ryangot the young Chicken, right, I
got the game corners, game keepingme young, man, keeping me young?
Wait, pigeon increasing my loads?Yeah? Man, oh but this
song, boys, I actually heardit first in a compilation, and the

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first time I heard it, Ifell in love and I had to do
double take. It was like TrayOllmen, the very same Trace Olmen Waits
of the eighties, the eighties,and I was like, wait a minute,
that's kind of weird to know that. But then you hear her voice
and you kind of have heard itbefore in the seminole program to Trace Ollman
Show back in the eighty seven.But the song is you know, I'm
a sucker for that that that girlgroup sixties like a wall of sound kind

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of you know, production, andit's really pretty. But it's all melancholy,
but it always grabs me. Sobut that's the reason why I actually
chose this song. It's one ofthose songs. To us, it's like
one hit wonder. But I thinkshe had she had a little bit more,
yeahl on her side of the crack. Yeah the pond. But that's
definitely my experience with listen because Ididn't know she sang. I just knew
her as a as a comedian andvery funny lady, but other than that,

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not really much. But how aboutyou guys, I think the same.
I even first saw her in theTracy Oleman Show. I mean I
was like ten years old. Ourgeneration, yeah, our generation definitely,
that's our introduction to her, wasn'tthis song? And then from then like
HBO all the HBO shows she had, right, and then you know the
little movies parts that she had.Yeah, yeah, but it was always

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a pleasure seeinger. Always liked her, especially from that, And then I
think at that time too, Ithink I was an angler phile. I
was in listening, started listening toBritish music, and then you know British
comedy and then Monty Python and thenyou know, you just kind of go
down through that wormhole, right,and then also Sketch. It was huge
and sketch, right, So Iwas into like I said, like Wall,
Monty Python, but then also Kidsin the Hall, Mister Show,

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Ben Steelers Show, and so itwas all right and for her to she's
stuck out because you know, asa woman that did countless characters, right,
it's always it's memorable. And thenI feel like that's it's very brave
of somebody to like, you know, pull off not only that but the
success she got from it because Ithink she started like even in the early
eighties, she already had these likesketch shows. Yeah, yeah, she's
part of a comedy true exactly wasshe was the head and she was a

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woman where all the other ones werethere, well they were all man except
for the State, but everybody elsewould dress up like girls, right right,
yes, exactly, So it wasit did stick out that she was
the main one. Like Second CityTV they had they had women. Yeah,
I mean First SNL had had theirshare as well, but yeah,
but still like the fact that herown exact, her own thing what's separating,

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right, And it was funny likeI I watched like when I was
a kid. Even now when Iwatch all this and now, it's it's
not funny, you know, tome, you know it's funny because like
they're like, oh, it's thebest, and you know the Chevy Chase
years and all those early ones.But it's it's what's it's it's you know,
it's selective memory. Man revision ishistory. It's always like the classic
old Manuel is a cloud that newthings just isn't as funny as used to

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grant, like, yeah, likeit's funny because the moment I got home
from Darker Waves, someone posted fortyyears ago Buckwheat was shot on SNL.
You know that that's skit on wheetwhen you got assassinated, and that to
me it was like Murphy one ofthe funniest skits I've ever heard, well,
and that was Eddie Murphy was inuntil the later a couple of years
later. That first year was whicheverybody thinks is the best. It's like

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I can't say that. I mean, what what where the cone has already
then happened and then or like theland shark, I think land shark is
already there. Lands was funny,but so that wasn't their best. There
was I mean, you know,even the Wilfare earliers and even with was
his face, the Tonight Show guy. You know, he had some decent
things in there too. It's it'syou know, it's no hexabus, right,

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you know, and you know so, but you know, I think
it was. I mean, it'sjust like that perfect time it hit just
hits you, so you get itand then you're obsessed with it for a
while. And then and you haveto also consider that it came out on
a on a station, a fledglingstation of Fox, right that that what
would separated them was a lot moreEdgier And yeah, and this we're talking

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like mid you know eighties, youknow, talking about it's like basically we
were stuck with CBS, NBC andABC and then maybe you know, like
your Channel nine or at least ourlocal ones. But yeah, but as
far as the networks, then Foxwas the fourth network and they were you
know, they tried to differentiate themselveswith Edgier programming. How long did it

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take for was this the same timeas Married with Children? Or absolutely debuted
the same like around eighty seven?Right, because I think the quiz yes,
but I mean that's that's game changingfor exactly and that's what I mean.
And and you know when when theywere doing the ass and out,
she's doing something completely different, relyingon four main characters in her Tracy Omens

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show, right and not we haven'teven mentioned the Simpsons, Like you know
how she kind of opened the gateto the rest of the world with these
little shorts, right that that peoplefell in love with, and obviously it
became this you better watch because youmight be called into testimony, like do
you think Tracy is you should driveaccess to that money that we had watch

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We watched as many doc and manyinterviews of Trace Homan saying that she deserved
what But sometimes I feel like she'sjust playing a character who wants the money
and notarily she actually believes she knowsshe would you know, she actually lawyers.
Yeah, how about you? Myexperiences with her basically like almost nil
really especially this song. I neverheard a song in my life. You

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never watched the show. I neverI never caught the Tracy Omens Show.
And that was around the time wherelike Chosren came out the same like when
I got into like watching TV regularly, like especially Fox around that time.
It was the song the show waslong gone. I was just you know,
like barely getting into the first seasonof The Simpsons and Married Children and
all that year on TV too.Yeah, so I'm sure, yeah,

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like, but you know, Ialways missed those times. But it's just
that I just thought, oh,this Simpsons came from those little grungy Simpsons
animations back in the from the TracyOmens show. It's the gross sharp version.
It's so gross. It's like theydeveloped flem or something or like animators.
I don't know, it's just bad. But I mean, you know,
it was crude and that was whatthey got at that time budget willing.

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So but no barly in experiences withTracy Ullman. But I do remember
she was in a couple of moviesI Love You to Death, that one
where she was the housewife who wantedher husband dead. She was also in
some Woody Allen movies, right,yeah, shemall time Crooks, All Time
c That's funny because I've completely forgottenabout I Love You to Death, and

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like it had River Phoenix and KeanuReeves in there too as the hitman she
had to kill and William hurt andthey're like junkies. Oh, she's in
Boltsover Broadway too. Oh yeah,dirty shame John Cusack, Right, Broadway,
Tilly naming Tilly sisters in that movie, or Jennifer Tilly, Jennifer Tilly.
Probably she's also Jennifer or Meg right. I'm She's also one of my

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favorite movies, The Tales of Despero. It's about a little mouse. Oh
yeah, great, correctly she hasa voice. Yeah, she does voice
work for that. She's in CorporateBrightce. You hadn't know that. And
then onward it was that's like theone with right spider Man. Did you
know that she's the richest British actress. I did not know that really?
Yeah? Wow, she has herhands on everything, right I industry.

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I think she's rolling in the Simpsonsmice she's not telling us. Did you
know that her first film credit wasin Paul McCartney short film. Oh right,
I think that's why Paul McCartney's inthis video too. Is it the
give my regards to broad Street?Yeah, yeah, that's that's the reason
why he did this paper for her. But that was like the in the
middle of Paul McCartney's like collaboration trip. Right, Yeah, he was collaborating
with Michael Jackson and then Stevie Wonder, you know, and it's like,

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oh we and trees of course,oh yeah, say say say, and
then Evanie and Ivory all during aroundthe time. Yeah you just like you
made the rounds. Yeah. Oneof the best forty five covers I own
is the say they Say. It'slike Michael Jackson and Paul McCarney a cartoon
of them like jumping up and likehigh fiving each other or something like that.
I think it is so hilarious.That video is pretty cool too.
But you know what, this songI just wanted to give credit because the

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original song was written by Chris Kirstymccaff back in nineteen seven that when she
was only twenty years old. Butsadly she actually passed away in to thousand,
two thousand, right, you guysread about it, and she was
just trying to save her son fromthis oncoming speedboat. And the worst part
is the driver of this boat islike this mogul, Like he's like the

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supermarket mogul in Mexico. But whenit got to court, they it turned
out that they were trying to purportthat it was the one of their servants
that was driving the boat. Sohe took the fall. Took the fall.
Yeah, so he served two yearsand ten months, right, and
paid two thousand, one hundred andsixty dollars to the McCall family. But
when he got out, he didthese interviews saying that, yeah, I

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just it wasn't really me that wasdriving. It was really the you know
this So it was kind of likea sad story. But she Christal McCall
is like this huge. She browa lot of good songs, you know,
like apparently she was pretty huge inEngland during this time too. But
yeah, it was just kind ofa tragic story, but a lot of
people kind of honored her, youknow, covering a lot of her songs.
So fu that's awful tragical. Irealized this song deals with like not

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approving of your choices in life,right, there's the hint of that and
at least our right. And thevideo is also aping, like I said,
like the kitchen seeing dramas from Englandwhere it's like there's always that there's
the girl and she's going after thewrong guy, and you know, the
parents think she's going after this guy, but then he might be African Americans,
so they're disapproving or he's gay andthere's not a fake relationship. You

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know, there's all that drama andso this is kind of aping a lot
of that stuff too. Absolutely.Yeah, okay, okay, we'll be
right back for some pop quiz afterthese messages. Okay, right, you
guys a pop kuz for us?Yeah, you guys ready or what do
it? Right? You guys readfor some pop quiz? Right? Here
we go, see if my streetcontinues here. In April twenty, nineteen
eighty four, this song peaked atnumber eight right m Billboard Hot one hundred,

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which is the following was number one. You guys will never get this
because you never get it right.Here are your choices. A Footloose by
Kenny Loggins, No Messina B youmight think, by the Cars, see
against all Odds, take a lookat Me now, Friantzy by Phil Collins,
or d to all the Girls I'veLoved before, Who the Eight Laces?
And Willie Nelson Hard I was gonnaput rockwell because he's also the same

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era, I'll go Footloose. I'llgo with Phil Collins. That sound was
huge. All right, Louis,you're wrong, but Ali's correct. Yes,
yeah, you probably got it.Put loose at number three, you
might think at number seven and toall the girls of love be four.
What do you think thirteen? Numberten? Oh yeah, to all the
girls, I love that sea.That's not for my funeral. That was

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a nast One classic, right,Camel, that's nineteen eighty four, but
that is weird. I'll get yourstickers, gentlemen, out of the basement,
because it's signed for the lightning role. All right, So I mentioned
I kind of hinted this earlier,but though it was officially launched in October
ninth, nineteen eighty six, FoxNetwork Right began its official premiere set up
on April five, nineteen eighty seven, so they kind of started a year

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earlier, but the actual run wasin April, so with the series Our
Favorite Mary Good Children and Yah zOleman Show Right airing that night, that
was the first shows for Fox.So the questions before you, gentlemen,
is true or false in the followingare actual Fox TV show Oh I got
it yet? So first of all, a lot of these were like one
season, thirteen episodes, or likethey had like a cult fucking following episode's

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got canceled exactly. So it's alot of those shows they threw everything at
the wall. See whatever I eversuck, right, So this one's the
first one. Al you ready?All right? This show is a nineteen
eight nine sitcom called Mail Order Models. It's about three down on their luck
attractive buddies that get hired around thecountry to model at local fashion events.
For false. It's a false sureyou are correct? Made up? Wow?

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I love your love your story.Yeah, Lily you ready? Yes?
This one's a nineteen ninety three dramaseries called Class of ninety six.
It's about seven college freshmen facing firstyear challenges dealing with racism, sexism,
and friendship. I think. Exclaimmagazine of Canad's premiere entertainment magazine Loud they
called this the Canadian Beverly Hills withoutBrian Austin Green. That's I'm gonna say

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false. Nope, this is true. The fact that he has sources to
say that the sha remember the commercialrecord nineteen and it came out in nineteen
ninety three. Yeah, that's weird. I thought I would get Louis because
we were ninety six. Oh yeah, that's why I thought you do anything

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that sounded fake about it. I'lltry this one out. This one's called
This was a nineteen nine to oneaction adventure drama called The Finder about a
wheelchair bound XCI agent and his exportsrecovering priceless stolen artifacts around the world.
The Finder. I never heard that. False. Damn, this guy's good.
That is false, whielded the legMan. Dad. Yeah, I

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was inspired by that. All right, Ready for this one? Yes,
it's a nineteen eighty nine crime dramaseries called Private Dick about a hard boiled
undercover detective who falls in love withthe mob boss's wife while trying to bust
a prostitution ring. Wide Open Weeklycalled it reveting as you see, erotic
thriller. Louis, you make itsound more fake with your fake headline.

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Private Dick sounds like a real thing. I don't know if that's like a
newer thing that was, like I'mstreaming to I'm gonna say false. Damn
you're good? Yeah, correct,you just made up that's amazing, right,
Second ideas your promotions. Guy,Let's see if I can get you
with this one. It's a nineteenninety post apocalyptic system. This guy,

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you know, it's funny I lovethat show Man, remember yeah, shows
three episodes or something like that.That's about six survivors of a world nuclear
oocause living together in an abandoned farmhousewhile trying to survive and re establish civilization.
Yeah, that's a good one.Who Entertainment Weekly called it Remedy People
Magazine. So it's the two layersfall out will contaminate you. I made

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that up. That's beautiful, Butdamn, dude, you're wasting. It's
the Oppenheimer. It's time trying.This one learning nineteen ninetiescom called Great Scott.
It's about a precocious high school forus in his vivid imagination, traversing
through high school trials and errors.It's not beans Baxter. I'm gonna say
it's true because it sounds fuck yougood. Yeah, it sounds familiar.

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That's who it is. It fuckingToby maguire and Kevin Connley really crazy,
wow, young Toby, and they'retrying to get in on the Great Scott
from the future exactly. Oh,you're ready for this. I was gonna
be like Scott Wolf or something stiring. This one's a nineteen ninety science fiction
series called VR point five about adaughter of a computer scientist who developed VR

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tech Discovery. She can enter andinteract through the VR world and is hired
by a mysterious secret organization to helpsolve crimes. Newsweek, Yeah calls it
a digital romp. Max Headroom meetsthe lawnmower Man. That is not true,
because not more when they come outyet, like nineteen ninety one.
He said, No, Nope,it's true. Are five point five?

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I'd look for that on two Bonly like six episodes? YouTube, Lily,
Yes, I think you're about readyfor this nineteen ninety five series called
Strange Luck about a child playing crashsurvivor who's now an adult free lance photographer
finding himself and strange and unusual situationand the tendency to be in the right
place at the wrong time. Thatsounds like a fucking great shows. All

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right, Hey, that sounds awesome. It's almost like Peter Parker or something.
I'm gonna say, yes, that'sright, TV sweety I remember,
I don't remember that at all.That was the premise of it. But
before I continue, don't you loveall these shows the fucking last But they
were good. Some of them werelike, like you wanted to watch them.

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It's like we should be doing apodcast about all these TV shows exactly
one hit ones, you know,one hit wonder shows. Yeah, there
you go, Small Wonders, allright, there you perfect? How about
this one? The nineteen ninety sixmetal drama called Prophet about a newly promoted
junior exec at a multi national conglomeratethat often engages an unethical business practices like
blackmail, briber, and extortion whileactively cultivating a positive public image. Out

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Before You Continue, Sun magazine describesas as wall streets. My MJ.
Fox is the streect of my success. I think that is true. You
sure? Yeah, you're right aboutyour five for five? Out Damn I
missed the last Yeah, the LaExpress VR five and Louis Finally here we

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go. This is a nineteen ninetyWestern dramedy called Low Damn law Man about
about a small town shriff who secretlyheads a violent posse who robs everyone from
the Coyote Gulch to the Oregon Trail. Before You Continue, Mutai magazine hailed
it as a gripping like a topnoose around your neck. Wally, I'm
gonna say that's false. You're yeah, remember you guys, killed me.

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I was I was over with BriscoeCounty. Good job, gentlemen. I
came up with all that show.That's beautiful, right, I worked hard.
I worked hard with these things.That's beautiful. But anyway, I
went down the rabbit hole. I'mlike, funk, I remember some of
these shows, you remember, likelike what is that Flying Blind? A

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great show with love whoops? Iwent back thirteen Herman, that of course
was great with Richard Lewis, RichardLewis and uh Parker Lewis can't lose that
dearest? Yeah, what's his name? The comedian? Yeah yeah, Don
Don Rickles, Yeah great. Youknow these are great shows. But because

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they never made it. I thinkI love about fox right. They threw
everything, but they took chances,and I still love fox Man even.
You know throughout the nineties and allthe shows that they made, they always
made all the ridiculous shows. Youknow, their news work is amazing.
I went back and I was watchingthrow everything at the wall, same mentality,

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throwing out rece even sticks. Yeah. I think I found Parker Lewis
count lose on like tub or oneof those great show back and watch.
I love good. I mean theHeights and Heights Don't don't don't sleep on
Fox Kids, Right, it wasgreat fucking Batman the animated series. I
mean, come on all bring thebringing back X Men. Yeah, yeah,
I mean yeah, lasting impressions forus, it was great. Is

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that that was our time, youknow, like from eighty eight, right,
eighty seven eighty eight when we started, like all the shows started coming
out. Yeah, because I wasI couldn't believe like marriage Children was on
a TV show like that didn't makeany sense to me when I was a
kid. Oh what do you mean? Like the just the humor. It
was the humor and the riskiness ofYeah, it makes topics they covered.
It makes sense when you started watchinglike the Young Ones because it's very it's
a very British show. Merry withChildren. It's so filthy, you know,

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like it's got that windows and thedad doesn't give a ship, right,
I mean the Yeah, it's basicallylike the family hating each other.
That was the new concept I thinkfor us. Of course dysfunction, Yeah,
the dysfunction. But like you know, we had there's a lot of
innuits. Like if people watch AThree's Company, you know, the show
is like all innuendo. But thething is in contrast to like The Cosby

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Show and all these like shows thatpromoted you know, like growing pains and
family value, family values and likeyou know, togetherness. But this different
strokes is completely like spun it aroundand it's like fuck you, you know,
Likeeric is different now, it's likea raunchy archie bunker. Yeah,
exactly, Okay, that's not whatthe music video then, of course man

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First of all, David Robinson.Of course, he's the director who directed
a Lot of Madness. Yeah,and he used the same technique very much
like the same film's talk a lotof the Bell stars Robert Palmer, he
directed quite a few of those videos, but so a couple more traitces like
Breakaway that we also saw earlier.Right, So, but like, yeah,
I remember seeing the music video forOne Step Beyond, which he directed

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too, and it's like to me, it's like I can't imagine early eighties
Britain. Then that video it's liketo me, in my in my little
you know, young brain just absorbed. Okay, this is how youth culture
was, right, and I didn'tknow it was shaped by the same guy
who directed this music video. Andyou said he was like a director head
of Stiff Records. Yeah, hewas president of Stiff Records as well.

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And apparently his wife who plugged inthe idea to tell Tracy omen A,
you want to have an album.Stiff Records released Christy McCall's you know song.
Yeah, and I guess she saidright like that. Oh, she's
always she's also been fascinated with likesixties music, and she really loved that
song. And she's just like,I want to do a version of this
song, right, And Christon McCalldoes some of the parts. She did

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the backup vocals, yeah, aswell as the hey because she didn't reach
the range. Right. The musicvideo, right, starts off with the
loin cloth his favorite part, theman loin cloth hitting the poster in my
room, pisty gong, right,yeah, it's it's what the thing is.
Here's he bangs two things, whichis the tubular bells and then there's
a gong in the second bombang ofthe song. Exactly bangs the gong.

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Yeah, but yeah, he's allgolden and nubian looking. Is that supposed
to be just like the start ofeternity or that's a good question, because
I don't really know how that kindof fits in because then it's is that
when they start showing like her asa baby and stuff like that and growing
up not yet the video because itstarts off with her, you know,
like seeing up getting tidy with Paul. She's getting ready, kind of like

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different shots of her, and thenand then it's her facing the camera singing
to the camera, right, andthen you kind of get a cut of
of Paul the casanova looking boyfriend,right, yeah, and driving the three
wheeled Reliant. That is that whatthe model is? A Reliant. Yeah,
there's quite a few different I onlysaw the cars and mister Bean,
I thought those cars looking ridiculous withthree wheels car. Yeah, yeah,
there's also a three wheel car onthe party, Peter Sellers exactly. Yeah,

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yeah, a three wheel car.But what's interesting is on this car
on the which is funny, likewhen you look back at like sixties scooters,
a lot of times they put theirname on the windshield of the scooter,
to the little wind thing and personalized. Yeah, and if you think
about that era and like probably evencurrent like a lot of the Jickneys and
the Philippines, a lot of youknow, it's like named after like you

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know, like boats would be namedyeah, you know, and then it
would it's personalized like maybe their kidsnames or something like that. It's something
cute, right to add to it. Yeah, it's like I named my
old turseel the Unstoppable Goth Machine.Until it's top, until it's just that
you can't put people in the backseat because too wide, too heavy,
right, crying for it was sobad. But but yeah, so their

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driver house has Paul and Tracy onthere, you know, like it was
just him at first, right,like ready to pick her up? Would
you ever do that? Right?Like be so into a girl you're driving
her and you're you're nice, reliantand already have her name on your It's
kind of like somebody who get getsthe tattooed their their wives, you know.
But no, I never never that. You can't do that because then

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they'll be like, hey, Jimmy, you sent me to come pick you
up. I see the you know, my fam my child beat up your
honorab student or something license plate ex. Yeah, but then they they go
bowling right and the date like younglovers, and you can see his bravado.
He thinks he's the he's the man. Yeah, yeah, I remarked

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us earlier, like he's dressed moreseventies. She's definitely at this point in
sixties. Her fashion stylings got thelittle mess that my be. He's got
the spear collars, the player.He's like up on the new thing,
and she's still kind of in thepast traditional, but he sucks about me.
He's terrible bowling, and she's kindof like, you know, like
you know, kind of giving that, you know, rolling her eyes right,

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and he's all just bravado, it'sit. But at the same time,
she's kind of like playing along withthe thing, right, like,
and it's the first thing you haveto you can't just judge the guy on
his bowling skins. And as asong kind of tells you like they don't
know about what us personally. Inever brought this up earlier, but you
know, I had an ext girlfriendwho was really upset that I was not
me when I'm with around her friendsand her family, Like, you guys

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know who I am, you know, like around all the time, right,
That's all I do. But whenI'm with her, I don't show
that side of me. So shekind of actually like admonished me about like
how come you not like that?You know, like it became an issue
or such a dick? Yeah,like how like this. I'm just kidding,
you know, I'm not like likepersonable and being like you know,
like trying to be because I'm not. Yeah, I'm not like that.
I'm only like that with people Ilove and I'm close to you. Right,

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yeah, you're not on all thetime. I want to be that
thing she wants. She wants youto love her. Yeah, her enough
to be yourself. There goes Theylies the problem, right, the clown
all the time. You get yougot to you know, get serious sometimes
and she says this, right,like they don't know about us like that,
that's our thing. You know,people don't see this when when see

(27:03):
that kind of that side of youaround. So it's kind of you know,
it's true at home kind of sad. I mean that's also the the
thing about like those kind of likebad relationships when the guys like a dick
and like how did abuse guy?Oh, when we're together, he's not
like that. It's not like thatwhen we're around, when we're just as
ourselves, he's just like that becauseyou know, he's nervous or exactly,
like you know, he has anxietyor but you can already kind of see

(27:26):
trace omonds like comedic chops. Right, she's like you knows the facial expressions
acting it's cool, it's cute.Yeah, I mean she's already had it.
She was already performing, right,and this is just like an extension
of her career exactly. But yeah, yeah, I mean she's just a
natural the camera. And then wecut into the home videos, right,
m m oh, yeah, thoseare like her is really her? Yeah,

(27:47):
and she gets like dad and shecries and which kind of like kind
of hints on the stubbornness of herthe character of the video and probably hear
her in real life, right,Like she does her thing, you know,
even though her parents are disapproving ofwho has happened, which right kind
of reflects the song. And thenalso like she's used to it could also

(28:11):
be getting a little bit deeper,and she's used to authoritative man, you
know, her dad spanking her.And then so she's with a guy who's
kind of you know, yes,it reflects that, right, Yeah,
somebody who's kind of a little bitmore controlling is running the show sort of
and that's how she grew up.So that's what she thinks she deserves,
that deserves, but like that's athat's just normal. That's what she's attracted
to, right, she gravitates towardbecause yeah, like if you deviate somehow,

(28:33):
like actually sure some real genuine Idon't know, love or like respect,
maybe she was like, ah,that's true, right, yeah,
because she's not she's not accustomed tothat lifestyle. That makes perfect sense.
Yeah, and then then we're allconfused, and then we become devious because
they rejected our love. But wealso get a couple more shots of her,

(28:56):
like slightly older, like the homevideos, right, which she sticks
her time, and again you cankind of see her her actual persona or
like a comedic persona coming yeah,shining through a little bit, which is
kind of cool. I like thatthey do that. Yeah, that was
that was That was good. Imean the fact that she actually has all
this home video still incorporated inporated intoit. And then they yeah, I
love that, Like they transitioned likeyou know, like her face and then

(29:18):
her face as a kid, andthen next frame is her as an adult.
It's almost like at the same angleand authentically probably fifties sixties, you
know what I mean, like thereal life, real time. Yeah,
there was a movie I watched too. There was like it was kind of
like that, where like they splicedin like her younger self and then how
she is now, and like Iremember like getting a lump of my Yeah,
of course I wanted to cry realism, right, Yeah, it was

(29:40):
the Barbie movie. Remember the NewBarbie went to spicing when she was younger
and then and then you know thatthe mom right, and then they spliced
it to now America. Yeah,yeah, it's like that was. It
was very similar to how that was. That was it was okay, yeah,
carry on. It is kind oftouching. Yeah, like you can
see like the development of her oflike her personal personality, yeah, her

(30:03):
experiences. But anyway, he goesso he goes into this like a little
dance kind of montage of like likea skating I don't know what that is,
right, like a discotheque roller ringthing, roller rink kind of it
seems like Italy like that. Butthen she flashes her ring, so that
means we've moved up a few years, Yeah, gotten deeper into their relationship.
Someone proposed see I like that hewas true to her. Maybe not,

(30:26):
it's true enough. He puts hername in her car. Yeah,
you know he's in love. Hemight not be like the you know,
the sweetest or the most, buthe's there for her. You know,
he's there her. I mean,he's probably true herself. He's not putting
up an act or anything. Hesucks a bowling, but you can't really
pretend that you're not. And thenhe quickly jumps now into the shopping yeah,

(30:48):
or the grocery store scene that waslike hars too write like, I
mean, because the cut was likebecause it was bam. And she's like
older and has a kid, andshe is she pregnant in this she looks
she's pregnant with the thing is theone that that is weird. It's like,
at first I thought, is shehave a kid with some other guy?
Because it isn't like they're together,right, they're not together because the
guy's working there a grocery store.You guys thought she's not I thought that

(31:11):
when he's not acknowledging her, well, he pinches her playfully. I mean,
I know I noticed he did something, but I thought he would just
like he slipped something onto the cartor well he throws something the kid,
I think, and then but healso pinches her. But okay, so
oh see he works at the grocerystore. Okay, that's okay. Now
to bring it home, she remnant. She kind of has this dream of

(31:33):
Paul is now Paul McCartney of courseright there relying car, and you kind
of get that little you know,like a little dreamy sequence of like she's
all, I guess the way Isaw it at least you know, from
research, and what I kind ofglimpsed at is that to keep the relationship
afloat, she has this fantas sidefantasy. You know, you're you're like
a romance novel. Yeah, youknow, your life may not have turned

(31:56):
out to be as you dreamt it, but you stuck with it and you're
living with it. You're dealing withit because she gives that face when she
gets pinched like this guy, youknow. But at the same time she's
dancing, she's twirling and that downthe aisle. So you know, I
don't know, it could be likea happy ending and you just don't have
that side. It's just basic basic. You think you're gonna get all this

(32:19):
but it's just you're just gonna endup being pregnant going shopping and which is
So that's the kitchen sink drama kindof ripping you at your throat, Like
sometimes the choices you make not necessarilycomes out to what you were dreaming of,
but you live with it and youaccept it. And we get a
glimpse of her having these fantasies andyeah, yeah, like oh, I'm
married to a Beatle and you know, yeah, exactly the best English Paul

(32:40):
ever. Yeah right, a guynamed So. I mean, did she
settled was a disillusion with what happenedto her you know, future present life.
I don't know, it's just shejust accepted and you just accept it.
And for us, our kind ofour generation kind of you know,
we had our own fans in theseason dreams, right, But at the
same time, at the same we'relike, well, you know, that's

(33:04):
how life kind of turns out.I mean, you know, even if
you're the most interesting person in theworld, you're still gonna have days like
this when chopping out of all theselike exactly you know there's still that normalcy.
Yeah, you've got reality. Youcan't you can't have like things explode
around you all the time, oryou know, the most like interesting thing
happened to you all the time,you're like die. And for the heartbroken
teens and young adult it's like,you know, life is not fucking flowers

(33:29):
and chocolates in the second of theday. You know, Yeah, there's
going to be a time where you'rejust like, well, okay, this
is what it is. You know, I deal with it. Yeah,
I thought by not be married toJene Groffloe and we'd be traveling with exactly
supporting her on her comedy tours allaround America. You get up your bowling
game, geen girl. So Ido kind of appreciate that message of like,

(33:50):
yeah, I did not expect thatat least. I mean, you
know, like as someone who's neverseen the video or the song, just
that just that harsh cut, thatwas beautiful. That's like a struggle genius
from mister Robinson. Well, justlike life. I mean, I do
find myself thinking, like man,ten years ago, I was having to
time my life at this party andship like that, you know, like

(34:12):
like I was making music left andright, thinking it was the greatest works
of art ever raid And then Iwas like I'm just here playing meme music,
and I think it hits this agegroup harder than any other age.
Yeah, it's something that's relatable.You try not to be your parents,
and you end up being your parents. You can't not be, you can't
escape that kind of future. There'salways gonna be that sign of you.

(34:34):
But it's just emotions of getting old, right, and that's just how it
is. It is it is.I mean, you know, there's people
out there who just perspective to manageit way better than others who are like,
all of a sudden, Oh,I gotta get a filler here,
I gotta get some lip implants here, and I have to I have to
look younger because everybody else is doingit from my cabin plants. Next week

(34:57):
you get a divorced by sports carsor dating younger people and stuff. Well
that's what life does to you,right, hammers you down. But if
you can survive it, you'll beokay. And this is a very good
lesson for young people, you knowwhat I mean, You know, like
I mean, I think it.You know, for Tracy Olmen's sake,
she's just fine because she's like therichest actress in British history. Right,
that's right. But anyway, that'show it ends. And she's happily twirling

(35:19):
around with her daughter, right,and her soon to be child down the
all these these tescos Tesco she's buying. It's not Herod's no, she's buying
some hi snow fairy serial. Ithink, well she was the Bangers and
some h piece. Yeah, okay, we'll be right back for some notable
YouTube comments. All right, Stanforda notable YouTube comments. I got a

(35:45):
couple of long ones. You guys, strap in for a second. He
do it, all right, Solet's see the first one. Here is
my nogging nog seventeen eighty eight,about a year ago. And this person
says, this takes me back.I interviewed Tracy at the Bowling Alley if
they shot that scene. Oh wow. It was only my second celeb interview,
and I initially forgot to turn thetape recorder on. She said,
you've done this before. I don'tknow, have you done this before?

(36:08):
And nonetheless I got it done andremember that day fondly. That's kind of
cool. That's cool. I loveit when you get like a real yeah
perfect. People were like, ohman, that's a great memory the scenes
kind of thing. Everybody loves her, by the way, I mean as
far as this one is by DavidScott's Stone great the Fox left lawyers there,
not even the writers. So DavidScott Stone twenty three one day ago

(36:30):
from yesterday whoa and David says justrediscovered this after a number of years.
It's quite remarkable for someone that wasa bit of a giant in colmedy to
do something so touching beautiful without ahint of irony to diminish the sentiment.
I suppose the video could be readslightly funny, but it's actually kind of
dark and it ken low kitchen syndrama kind of way well done. And

(36:50):
the original by Christy McCall is abeautiful bridge between the punk post punk era
and the new pop of the eighties. But I think he kind of got
the sense of the video. Ithought that was kind of an interesting thing.
But at B King four said fivemonths ago, correct me if I'm
wrong. This song and video weredone in the nineteen eighties. Tray Solman
is making a statement about a woman'srole in society. The look and sound

(37:14):
of the video are nineteen sixties.The video ends with Tracy being in the
present day of the eighties at asupermarket without makeup, showing what a woman's
life is really like after marriage andchildren. However, whatever statement she's trying
to make gets lost for several reasons. First, the song is so good.
Who cares about the message. I'mdrowning in pop bliss. Second,
she looks so good with makeup thatI and most guys I know would feel

(37:36):
blessed to have her by their sidein any supermarket. Third, the child
in the supermarket basket can't help butenjoy as I did, her dancing and
her slippers. Any corrections about theintended message of this video are most welcome.
I may have interpreted incorrectly, butI will continue to enjoy the song.
It's absolutely fantastic, and it's writingand performance and to this day,
idore Tracy Olmen. We kind ofmentioned that a little bit earlier, right,

(37:59):
But I don't think. I thinkthe guy is still into him.
That's why the whole he's still intoher, That's why the whole pitching the
butt and she's fucking pregnant, youknow that, you know she fell out
of it where he's still I feellike he was still kind of like,
you know, very much into it. Yeah, it was happening. I
never got the hint of him.He may not be the you know,
the the thario, yeah, orlike the super sensitive all right, right,

(38:21):
Paul McCartney. He's there, he'sworking, he's provided, he's providing.
It's all good. That's just that'sreality for most people. You know.
It's like, I mean, yeah, she she'd fantasize about the hotter
guy, maybe you know, thehotter Paul somewhere, and you have to
think that it was her decision tolike, hey, you guys don't know
what we have. Yeah thing,But anyway, at news historian three months
ago, oh says this at oneminute and twenty three seconds, that Super

(38:44):
eight film of Tracy getting swatted asa child always stayed with me. Oh
Man. Is that her father,who was Polish and a survivor of the
Battle of Dunkirk. Yeah, howawful and humiliating for men of that generation
that experience must have been for him, never going back to his destroyed homeland
that was taken over by Stalinists.The hidden trauma, rage, and depression
of that generation sometimes showed and misguidedabuse. As we get a hint of

(39:07):
hereund the father huh yeah, yeah, but he has a point though,
Yeah, he has a point talkingpost war kind of you know era,
right, mm hmm, Well,I mean he should be proud of but
became a Tracy eventually though. Butyou know a lot of comedians are torture,
right, Yeah, you know alot of comedians are depressed. A

(39:29):
lot of clown Yeah, Tears ofa Clown classic. So there may be
something to that. Damn put itthat way. Didn't even think about that.
It's hard to be funny when youdon't when when you haven't experienced the
pains of lief, right, youknow what I mean? You laugh at
it, that's alright, Louis,So they don't know by Tracy Ollman.

(39:51):
Would we keep it or would youthrow it back? Me? Oh yeah,
that's for you keep it. Thisis a wonderful video. It's very
very cool. I mean, theguys, Uh, he's done a lot
of videos and you could tell thathe has a knack of this, you
know, like so it's it's uh, he's stuck to what he knew that
and for being kind of like aI mean it was a hit at the
time, but it is also acomedian just singing, you know, so

(40:13):
it is kind of like, ah, but you can sing though course.
But in the eighties one if Iheard this song, you know, like
now, like I didn't know,I did not know anything about it.
I would you would have told me, oh, this guy on nineteen sixty
eight, I'm like, I'll believeyou. No, No, it's a
good song and everything's good about it. But this is the time when comedians
were putting out albums that's true.Yeah, yeah, and they're kind of
now just throwing away like, oh, this is a comedian album. It's

(40:34):
not a real music album. Butit's actually done very very well. And
no, it's a great one.I'll keep this on here. The song
always pulls, man, I justI love I don't have to sucker for
that kind of stuff, you knowthat. That's like I said, like
that's sad but also very pretty kindof like songmaking. But you know,
in contrast to the video, ithits home. Man. You know,
you've all kind of been through thosesituations where nobody else can see it,
but what you're going through and whatyou're feeling and what you're experiencing is enough

(40:59):
to keep a relationship and strong andkind of and they're lasting, you know,
like starting a family and and thingsdon't always work out the way you
plan it to be right, youknow, like the best laid plans often
go awry. Right. Yeah,classic quote there, But I love it
man if together as a song inthe video it has that melancholy, nice
like realistic slice of life that Ialways enjoy as a as a person.

(41:22):
So yes, definitely keep from meand I love a video on the spot.
Yeah, it's cool. We geta lot of videos, and she
has a lot she's I like her, you know, like that swag of
like being funny but also look seriousat the same time. I like that.
That's a lot of talent there that'sinvolved. Yeah. Yeah, definitely
a keeper for me too. Imean I got, you know, like
a little flashbacks of your wildless dreamsand this has that for sure. It

(41:45):
was like fantasizing about her youth inthe sixties and stuff and how things were
different and I could have been withthis guy and you know and instead of
you know, Paul, Paul McCartneyor whatever. I mean, that would
have been cool. She actually gotPaul Weller though, Yeah, that would
have been kind of cool too,but but yeah, no, absolutely,

(42:05):
keeper. This song is amazing tome. Like I never heard the original
version. I just I just heardthis HERB version and there it's almost like
one to one, you know,like if you play them back to back,
I would probably get confused, Who'swho's doing what? Yeah, but
yeah, yeah, it's a greatsong, you know, Like, yeah,
video is amazing. It does hithome with you know again, like
how your other streams hit to metoo, you know. But yeah,

(42:29):
yeah, it's a it's a it'sa great video. Definitely keeping it all
right, man, who's next?Al Right, Louis, you're up?
Oh I'm next? Yeah, Ohshoot, I didn't know that. I'm
just kidding. I didn't know forthe next one. For I'm going to
take us to two thousand and four, guys, going to two thousand and
four, yea twenty years later.So it's a song I think about maybe

(42:53):
about the time. It's a it'sa newer song, but I think it's
a story about a time, maybefrom the time where actual she's actually singing
about, like the fifties, sixties. I think for the fifties, we're
gonna do interpolse evil, Yeah,fresh off the the is that where you've

(43:15):
got got the idea from Oh yeah, yeah, actually no, I wanting
to do this for a long time, but I just kind of reading,
all right, good get to thetwenty fourth century finals in this show,
so you won't be doing that onethere. All right, Okay, that
concludes this episode. They don't know. Thank you for listening and we'll see
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(43:42):
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five star on Apple podcast. What'sthe first time you want to macdone?
Me? Uh? We have definitelythe Philippines probably just like after it's like

(44:06):
a ritual, like if I watcha movie with you know, like one
of my cousins would take me.Then afterwards, like we'll go to McDonald's.
But it was a very big dealbecause it was a lot more expensive
celebration. It's a celebration, right, I could imagine it like a birthday
party. Yeah, Jolly was thego to place. Was a little bit
less expensive than McDonald McDonald's was likeyou know, because you know it's from
the US, right, And Iremember like what, like I saw a

(44:27):
big platter like imagine like you know, the size of an extra march piece
of platter. But they're all cheeseburgerson them, like like a mountain mountain
on them on still in the rappersthough, and like I remember at that
at my niece's birthday party and seeingthat there, I'm like, wow,
we are so rich, Like you'vehit it, Like what the hell is

(44:49):
this? Like I hit jackpot becausemost of the time, Lily, like
you know, I mean just foraverage people, especially in a country like
that, you know, like youusually like in small places like that,
like or like the stam right now, like just just people make the home
cook kind of meals. But ifyou go to an actual establishment like a
Cindy's Cindy's Sawyers when Tom Sawyer islike a chicken place or Wendy's, and
uh yeah, that's like big time, you know, that's like you can't

(45:14):
just go there. So somebody hadto have died, was born, like
christened or baptized. Yeah, no, I think in the eighties, like
McDonald's was kind of like that too. It wasn't as I mean, we
only went for special kid, We'regoing to go to the movies and then
we go to McDonald's. We're tonight out of it. Yeah, we're
going to go to the mall anddo shopping and stuff and then go to
McDonald's Bill's mall. So how canthat not be one of those special memories

(45:37):
that you like cherish, you know, right, it's it's like a wonderful
thing. And now it's like,you know, if you look at McDonald's
today, it looks like, Idon't know, like a dystopian modern art
place. Not only that you goright, and then the experience of going
through, fucking driving through is annoying, and they make you park, and
then it's like where's my food?Man? I have to go back in?
Why'd you make me park? Younever go? And then you leave

(45:59):
and you eat and you feel likeship it's like those memories are gone.
You remember McDonald's had like the burgerchairs, the chairs you know to get
the trees. Even you know there'sstill once with a few are here with
playgrounds on them, the playplace theyhave the GameCube exactly. Yeah, it
was an experienced path man, SoI'm sorry. So this is a little

(46:19):
tiny spoiler, not too big,but if you watch the Luckie Show,
you get some good satisfying McDonald's classiceighties McDonald dude, it's really cool.
Now, just very very quickly beforeyou continue. Where we grew up in
La Ponte City of industry area,there is a secret McDonald's off of Gale,
kind of like that area that's whereWalmart. Walmart is across the street

(46:40):
from this. It's really hidden.It's in the industrial area. There's a
training place for McDonald's. Like,let's say you get hired and they'll train
you in this actual McDonald's. It'sright, you get the Golden Archers,
you got the whole works, everything'sout. But they also use it for
commercials, commercials well, so likeit's kind of like known for you know,
like this spot where the you know, where they would choot commercials for

(47:01):
the eighties nineties commercials. Yeah,but I don't know if it's still there.
It's kind of an interesting place.I don't know. You couldn't go
there and eat. Yeah, itwasn't a place where it would go,
but yeah, it was just forfilming commercials and training people. Interesting.
Yeah, do you guys remember though, of course it's the topic heres,
but remember the twenty five cent cheeseburgerTuesdays? Oh, come on, thirty
five cent cheeseburgers, twenty percent hammerHamburgers. I must have ate. I

(47:22):
don't know, five hundred hours thatsummer that was. Those were some crazy
uh you know, well we madewe made a whole thing a bit because
like, all right, guys,it's Tuesday, right then we'd all go
getting Paul's van and that and allthe I sy that, you know,
like get a grink picy orange,Yeah, you gotta go to and like
our meatallitas was so fascinating, likenothing even showed up, like easy two,
three four, right, Like justeating them, no problem,