TMVR-Time Capsule-05-Rave Til Yawn

Al & Ryan reminisce about a haphazardly planned rave that went nowhere, party crews and backyard raves in general.

Episode Transcript

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Tm VR time camp, like,um, we are at that point where
everything could cost you much. We'rein record breaking inflation. With the price
of everything goes up, that meansyou're getting a pay cut. That's right,
that's true. It doesn't make anysense. Huh. I mean you
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that I'm thinking about joining a workinginto car wearing here defencing operation in San
Francisco, which is just so blatantand frustrating, and we're recording or no.
Yeah, man, Brian, whichis me game back fresh from San
Francisco, got her rental car brokeninto? Did you know though about that?
Did you know about the reputation?But you went out of row anyway.

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Uh, we went in rob.You know, we were positive and
we felt good. We're having agood time on a week long vacation.
It was my last rob before goingback to works. I thought, you
know, I didn't have that inmy hand, you know, right,
and considering we don't have anything valuable. But they're not taking that chance.
They're just taking They don't care.They don't care. I don't care about
you having to pay back the rentalcompany for having the how much of that

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cost I don't know yet. Ohvery soon unfortunately, but because yeah,
you decline the insurance. Huh,that stuck the upselling. You're they're insured,
no matter what, right they're they'reinsured, but you're it's your ass.
You gotta cover so and yeah,anybody out there can help me setting
Oh, by the way, theygo buy me a coffee, right,
did that one up for I'm ina coffee for t MVR. Yeah,

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we're gonna get that. It's allset up so next episode. By the
way, we were planning on doingthis episode. Unfortunately, we were going
to do the the Flock of Seagullsepisodes Iran, but unfortunately we cannot make
it. So, but we wantto continue since we have this time available,
we want to continue producing content,yeah for everybody, And so we
thought would just hop in on thetime cabins here into the time capsule chat

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say hi to everybody. So that'swhat we're doing here. Yes, yes,
cost But interesting part is we're ofage. You know, we're a
lot older. We have a lotof financial responsibilities and uh, you know,
we have our loved ones to takecare of. We have to take
care of ourselves and it only makesme miss the old days, you know
so much more. I mean,did you appreciate it the old days though,

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like when you were living it?Unfortunately you didn't. You didn't appreciate
it, You don't think about it. You're not as forward thinking as you
should be, because no, atleast I wasn't raised to have that feeling
right at that time. But yeah, and you know, at this point,
our faithful listeners here, they knowthat we love reminiscing and talking about
the past. Hence Throwback Music VideoReview podcast where we talk about music that

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we've always enjoyed throughout our lives.But you know, like like we're a
collector of those kinds of memories andand kind of rehashing, relection, introspection.
But it kind of answers a lotof the queries we have as in
modern times, like you know,why we're here and why we're like this
as people? You know, SoI always find that interesting. Yeah,
like so you're you're missing that pointin time, But why, Like what

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is it about? I mean,because I love the nineties, alt,
I love the early nines, thelate eighties, early ninies, that pair
of of freedom that was our GoldenAge, you know, as peak of
our physical ability. Interestingly, that'skind of like when we kind of met,
you know, and kind of hitit off and just you know,
forged just lifelong friendship we've had.And it was the pre internet era,
the Internet, and the more Ijust learned how social media affects, you

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know, the new generation, justlike the more I can appreciate that time
for us, because I'm sure we'vedone some things that could have canceled us.
That's true, you know, justa little backstory. I mean we're
criminals or anything, I know,but I'm just saying, like, you
know, we said some stupid things, right, we still kind of do.
But and I have some questions aboutthat in the second here. But
just just to preface the conversation,uh, for for some of the listeners,

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alan that were neighbors one house separatingboth our homes, and uh,
we had a mutual friend that wemet through in the late eighties the early
nineties, and so when he moved, we bought the house and we ended
up keeping touch. So you know, how was it going to a private
school? I was going to justthe public school because you know we're poor.

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Um, But anyway, that's howwe kind of met. And that's
one thing too. I just wantto, of course, let's bring us
in. Just like I did notappreciate at that time how valuable a private
school education is versus a public Ialways resented it because it had no girls.
Are the teen years, yeah,those are your developing years, developing
years, and and I developed anawkwardness about things. But but anyway,

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go on, Well, I becauseof the close proximity, we kind of
got ourselves in some you know,we we talked hung out a lot,
along with of course with Lillie andall our other friends, all the friends
of the podcast. But one ofthe interesting things what we used to do
is we were always trying to hatchthese plans of either meeting girls or like
accessing something cool like the Internet,remember that those years. Oh yeah,

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just just like even even getting makingfake IDs for I wish Fluid was here
for that conversation. But I haveone quick thing that I clearly remember,
and I wrote the sound in mylittle book, Oh you do, is
we were so hard up to likemeet people and kind of like, you
know, we're nerds, you know, we were you know, we we
love playing basketball, playing video gamesand the you know, the the supernatural

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and oh yeah stuff that kind ofstuff that could call yeah, the New
Age and conspiracies and exactly. Sothis is what we kind of bonded over,
right, al, you and Iand all our friends actually to be
honest, through music, music,but just these kinds of conversation of just
like wondering basically like a philosophical likecoming of age extentialism of like you know,

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like, oh, you know,we're all here together, like just
trying to explain why we're there andwhat we're what we want. And you
know, it's interesting because we didn'treally I didn't have a lot of friends
that were able to articulate those things. But we all found each other.
Yeah, and I think that's strengthenedthe bond absolutely. And I don't know
where how I'll be as a personto fight if you guys weren't there the
same hand, and I was like, I don't. I think I'll be

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a worse person if I wasn't ifyou guys weren't around, that's a compliment.
Absolutely, I'm sure I would havebeen ourselves in some crazy things.
I'm gonna drop this on you.Do you remember we were trying to start
a rape. Oh yeah, yeah, because that was the that was the
hot ship back then. It wasthe high times of party crews and rapes,

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right were I can't hang with thosekinds of those guys. No,
No, it was exciting, butat the same time, it's like,
in hindsight, we were gonna haveit in my house and yes, and
yeah, like we had it allopen somehow, the stars online, no
one was there, no one wasgonna be home for no one's gonna be
for today. I forgot why.But there were a lot of people living
in my house. I'm surprised wewere all gone. Yes, so like,

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yeah, I don't exactly. Ikind of forgot how that worked out
as far as like why everyone's there, But we were we had it,
we had it ready, we gotit great, ready to go. We're
a prep. But we didn't havethe money to fund shit like that.
It's not like we had a DJwe had we didn't have music, we
didn't have friends. How about thatwe were cool enough and yeah, like
like at that time I had Idid have party crew friends. That's where
I kind of got the idea from, right, Yeah. But the thing

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is like once it happened. Wegot the opportunity we're gonna throw on that
same day. It was like,it's not gonna happen. But see al
being an awesome graphic designer. Evenbefore he was already taking the classes,
he designed a cool flyer. Ohyeah, right, that's what it was
called. And this is kind ofa yeah almost right to tie you into

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that because it had that following andpeople said they were gonna go right and
we get did we give out?But you left flyers and lefts So we
were just giving it a grace ofGod, yes basically, But like that
was this is pre Internet, bythe way, so it just it's not
gonna be like, oh someone's gonnaclick interested or going in your four squares.
You know what's funny is that therewas a point where we thought,

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wait, wait a minute, Ithink we were a little bit in over
our heads here. So yes,we wouldn't feel until like moments during that
day was the time was getting close, yes, and being close neighbors.
He went to my house and wesay, okay, we'll hang out here.
We'll see if anybody like drops byrights on the door. You was
just kind of waiting and waiting becausewhat if it really does happen? What
if it becomes one of those eightiesmovies where bikers from like the Midwest rows

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up or something, you know,fucking spaceship and Al's rooftop in our in
our science experiment, hot girl electrifieseverything a weird science right exactly. But
yeah, no one, but noone, no one, no one,
no which which I actually felt thesense of relief, of course, of
course, But at the same time, there was this massive, excited,

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excited feeling that we were both likeholding on. I'm like, what if
the cricks? What if it happenedalso happened? Right? So I think
we even like plan to get food, and yeah, how silly, how
silly. We didn't even have jobs. I didn't have a job. Did
you have a job already? Backthen, I don't even want a job.
That was That was the pre JCPdays for you, right right,
that's right, God forgot about That'snineties, you know what I mean.

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We did crazy dumb things like that, you know, little experiments, social
experiments within ourselves, like a throwawayepisode of growing Pains or so many you
know. It's one of those littlehigh jinks that kids would get into but
the thing comes of it, ormaybe like a Wonder Years type experiment.
At least none of us turned outto becoming a religious lunatic like the guy

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in Growing Pains, you know,left behind. That was when the first
time I realized it humbled me.Actually, I'm like, I'm like,
okay, yo, like this iswhat you can do. This is what
you can't do. You're not coolenough to be in a social scene.
I mean, if we were influencerson YouTube easily right, yeah, easily
like, but that moment now reaffirmedthat we were not cool. We didn't
have any pool, no cloud,as kids would say these days. Nope,

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but we try, We tried,we experimented. Yeah, and we've
always loved to do that, youknow. I mean, that's something you
could tell you yourself, you know, if he ever gets the golf to
guess what it's like, you guysgonna vacation or what. But yeah,
yeah, nothing came out of it, and then we just next day we
just went along our way. Noharm, no foul, no damage in

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the house. You no, Like, let's say, something good happened and
the girls came in, we allhooked up and blah blah, blah.
Then the house is a message whichwe had no skills in clean up.
We had we did not think ittrue. Again, we thought we had
we thought it through, but wewere the aftermath. We just wanted to
We just wanted to rush the fun, but not the dealing with after,

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you know, I mean Arn's I'msure, yeah exactly. And the thing
is, the thing is, wereally did pull the trigger. Although we
were not prepared for what was goingto happen, right, we still did
it. Though, we still didit, even though, like grace of
God, nothing happened, Thank goodness, knock on. But now, you
know, during that time, thebiggest thing was, you know, I'm

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sure there's always been party cruise,but especially late eighties early nineties, people
were all party crew down and partycruise. If you've not if you're not
familiar, it's it's essentially uh,it's kind of like a like it's a
game, it's a gang, butthey just want to have a good time.
They don't put time. Yeah,you know, maybe they'll it's a
you can have a dance off againstone of the members from another party crew,
right, things like that would likethe old break dancing cruise as well,

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but what they do is they rentout perhaps maybe like a warehouse,
um, maybe like a like aVFW maybe one of those kinds of places.
They'll have a DJ and the thingthat parties is like what we tried
to do was it's word of mouth. The deal was, didn't even have
a NA play the radio tape.Yeah, we had tape players maybe and

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you know, something downloads some recordor something downloaded. I mean yeah,
with with the precisely cut parts ofthe commercial, cutting off the DJ's and
the commercials. But yeah, Butso party cruise. In order for you
to be able to go to theseplaces, one you have to be cool.
Two, the thing is, onceyou got the flyer, they're gonna

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send you to, usually like afast food joint McDonald's. Once you were
McDonald's, you're gonna get another rightBlue. It's like a weird game of
whereas Cormon San Diego. Where're They'resending you to these different various spots locations
in order for you to get thenext hint or clue to get to the
next one, and eventually, onceyou've succeeded, you will end up with

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the actual location. Right. Imean that that's amazing it's amazing because yeah,
it's to break off the trail ofany narcs. So right, yeah,
because there will be a lot ofalcohol consuming amongst miners and probably you
know model. I think not justthat they don't want troublemakers to be not
that there weren't any trouble happening inthose places, but I think they were
kind of yeah, it's all positivesense, it's all positive trail, you

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know, positivity. People just wantto get high on e and dance and
dance each other through the mid morning. So it was all good. It
was all good. It was alwaysfun. But you know, I had
friends who, like on a Monday, they're like, oh, man,
I went to this rave or thisparty, and it was always jealous.
I'm like, yeah, they're talkingabout how they they this was the term
they were macking down a scammer,scam. Those are the early nineties terms.

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I wonder if any listen really scamThey just scammers that came and went
right in ninety three. It wasdone after that, done Mac on Earth
that better legs than this, Ithink so. And if you listen to
some of the old kind of likegroovy hip hop songs of that time.
They always use the word scam rightall the time. That's funny. Macdaddy
bracking down. Yeah, right,if you're a macdaddy then yeah, then

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you're like, oh, but anyway, I would have these friends and would
like, I don't there was apoint where I'm like, I don't believe
this is I need to see itin front of me, because story after
story was about the same thing.They'd like make eye contact and after that
they'd go up to this girl andafter that they'd start talking and they'd start

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dancing and guess what the finale isthe mackdown? You know, how can
these stories always sound the same.So I'm like, I need to see
this for myself. I never I'venever been because again I'm so I never
really got around to. But there'sstories I was so fascinating. Yeah,
I've been to one. One draveabout this right, No, no,
no, no, no, it'sit's a classic. It's a class situation.

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It actually happened a backyard grave.Right. My friend, one of
my best friends in high school.He was a part of a party crew.
They call it Modesty Nice, whichis a cool name, but apparently
Modesty had a rivalry with the otherparty crew at my school called the Suicide
Kings. But anyway, that's beyondwhat I'm gonna talk about. But I've

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actually been to a backyard grave.He invited me. You know, his
modesty, his party crew through thatone and summer in La you know he
lived. He lived actually very closeto in Manabello where where my old where
we went to high school. SeeValley was fled with these kinds of right
so you know it was cool manlike they had the jungle juice in there.
So you know, I didn't gothrough the motions of go here,

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go see here here to get Iwas already connected. I was already in
so I had a little Neppo babyaction going on, you know. So
I was I was kind of grandfather, you know, and I'm like,
yeah, like you know back then, you know you've seen me at the
round that time. I was aclean cut you're a good boy, Yeah,
I was. I could I couldfit in with these guys the way
to the way the way I wasdressed already, you know, like because

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there's a certain look too that theseparty crews had. They're just the faded
um in the sidebird nine or two. Yes, that almost rockabilly ish.
Yeah, kind of like that look, but but kind of you know,
with the jackets and the chain walletsright right, and in the Harley boots
and in the jeans and the whiteshirt, they all kind of yeah they
had Yeah, I guess I guessyou put it that way. Yeah,
yeah, because he had a chainwallet. Definitely. My friend his name

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was, his name was, hisname was Armando, And yeah, he
took me, you know, sohe left me there. I got to
meet the DJ. He looked.I thought that was like Richard Blade for
a second. Too nice because he'she sounded like he's older. He's English,
he's older. You know, it'slike, hello, hey, you
like tech now he talked like thatbecause he was playing techno and back then
the only what we know that wasthe mainstream song was James on His Dead.

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There was a genre for these clubs, right party. So yeah,
that's my very first like backyard partyat least you know that's not thrown by
a family or something, you know, And yeah, it's like oh wow,
So you know a lot of people, a lot, but there wasn't
a lot of rave dancing that Iremember, Like they would show like I
mean it was. There was definitelya floor and it was you know,
like a good seven eight people werethere dancing, but not like throwing moves

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or dance offs or anything like that. They were just dancing and the music
was good, and you know,and I got to talk to this one
girl and not my type though,you know, she was cute. Like
now, I'm like, I wouldconsider very like I'll be kind of into
it. But back then I hadthis very um vanilla. I haven't had
my taste of controversial people yet,right, your standards were a little bit

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different, Yeah, it was.My standard was just different. But yeah,
you know this girl, she waswearing like a almost like a power
suit, like a black power suit, like black jacket with the shoulder pads
and pants you know, but theyweren't like pants like jeans or tight.
They were like the kind of kindof bellow out you know. Yeah,
it's kind of cool, you know, like thinking about like man. And
her hair was slicked back too,you know, like Latina girl. Yeah

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she's short, you know, alittle chubby, but you know, it's
still cute. But I'm like,right now, it's like, yeah,
I'll check you out. But backthen I was just like yeah, you
know, it's also you have itshocked some of it up to an experience,
right, of course. And shewas older. She was older.
She's probably like a senior, andI think I was like a sophomore around
that time. And um, wejust wound up talking after forgot we were
talking about because I mean, justa long time ago, but just bullshitting.

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And I don't really have a lotof stories to tell back then too.
I wasn't that interesting. I justtold her, Oh, we went
to go to high school. Bah. It's hard to, yeah, to
maintain a conversation, like an interestingconversation, especially if someone she's already an
adult. Yeah, she's probably anda stranger, right, and a stranger.
I met her that night and thatwas the last time I saw And
then she she gave this line tome that it still haunts me this very

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day. That's saying that, youknow, I'm really having a great time
talking to you. You know,she said that, and then like I
did not recognize at that time thatit was that was that was the that
was the green light. That wasa green light. And like in theory,
she should have you could have justlike, you know, lean in
and that's it right, course,that's what she's waiting for, you know,
dumb ass me stuck in Oh metoo, I gets some jungle juice

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and I didn't even drink or takeanything those parts. I'm sure the others
were, and I'm sure drugs were, I mean expensive, so they only
would just candily give it out likethey do in the movies or whatever.
But yeah, this is the thing, right So I'm kind of split about
alcohol, drugs, all that kindof stuff because as a parent, obviously
you want your your children to besafe and uh, you know, out

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of harm's way. But unfortunately it'sgonna have some times. In order for
these very memorable and hopefully positive andlife shaping, life changing experiences, some
of that stuff kind of has toseep in through your blood stream and then
you're able to be a little bitmore lax and more unfiltered, unfiltered and

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more are receptive to others um vibesexactly. Yeah, yeah, I was.
I had ad walls, man,institutional walls, you know, of
course, because well, one you'rein a strange environment that you've never really
been, you know, you're notaccustomed to that kind of and then to
an adult female talking to you andhaving a good time, like you're just

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like, oh yeah, I meantoo, you know what, I'm just
happy, right, that's enough.That's enough to tell, like, oh
man, don't have a good timethe other night. But of course other
guys who had a little bit moreexperience, they knew what to do,
you know, yeah, like mydumb ass yep, but at least that
was a positive expence. So Imean, I think though basically, like
through our trials interpretations of that youth, you know, we may try to

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make up for it. As weclubbed ourselves to death in the late ver
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