TMVR-Time Capsule-09 - Darker Waves

Time Capsule format is back with the whole gang as we recall our experience with the 2023 Darker Waves Festival that took place in Huntington Beach back in November 2023.

Episode Transcript

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DMV time camps. I guess wegot to get into the top of a
hand, which is Darker Waves Festival, Huntington Beach, California, which was
amazing by the way. J W. Yeah, Darker Waves happened November eighteenth
on a Saturday, started early ataround what was at ten am in the

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morning. But I'm sure you knowthere were bands that were playing at ten
am. Yeaheah, Christian Death wasplaying at ten am. What kind of
gothic band? The smaller bands atten am in the morning? Crazy?
What kind of a gothic especially ChristianDeath? Christian That's been around for right
like forty years now, it's crazy. And Chris, we missed that event.

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We can't be bothered with our youknow, forty year old routines,
forty something routines that we could.We want to see a goth band for
it. You'll zoom that one right, You're not gonna be there. Yeah,
that would be that would be atriple cast pictureple cast. Oh it
was so dope. But yeah,so what basically like, yeah, me
and Louis and Paul we kind ofhatched a plan. Paul was a you
know, he jumped on it,right away. He was paused a brilliant

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thinking ahead tacticianer a warfare tactician.I'm gonna get myself. I'm gonna position
myself a stable, a CD hotel, a CD. Uh. Mark Almo
was right there, dude. MarkAlmond was scary as fuck. Dude.
He is like Memo Robili, yeah, dude, and he had two fucking

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hit men with him. Dude.I know we should get this later,
but dude, I fucking shout outto those guys. Fucking uh Ryan Gosling,
Ryan Gosling and Seal Dude. They'relike Memo Roby and then they'll come
up behind you and get you MemoRobili. Yeah, you had two legitimate
fucking heavies with him, dude.Those guys were heavy. Bro points at

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you. They'll just come out andbeat the crab. Get this guy and
those you, bro, and allnight they were just like this, just
just cruising. Man. There's like, yeah, we're the game mafia.
Bro. They got they got youknow, basically the leather vests and you
know, very ready to go.They're ready to go. It was was

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Mark Common the only one that hadto turn around stage because that's the only
time I saw it. No,that was that was that was his was
his deal. That's like, thatwas his private setup. So like the
band was set up and then youhear the music starting and then the band
turns on the whole stage set toswivel, and it's fucking mark all men

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with all these lights and there wasalready ready. Yeah, and then what's
the keyboard player's name, Dave Ball, Dave Ball, and then to the
Dave Ball. Yeah, yeah,that was good. But yeah, but
anyway, getting back though, likeyou know, let's rewind back a few
hours. So, yeah, Paulgot this nice CD films hotel, which,
by the way, I had afucking fantastic time. It was so

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amazing. It was called the sevenseven eleven Motel seven on Pacific Coast Highway
Pacific Ghost Highway. Hey, it'syou know what's weird. The motel is
called the seven seven seven and itis exactly seven miles away from the concert.
Weird, right, That's that's someJFK level conspiracy numbers. And and

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by the way, shout out tothe staff. They were fucking dope man,
that hotel. Yeah, they're they'rejust like, oh, hey,
how are you are you staying forthe concert. Yeah they concert. Yeah,
But but the thing is they're suspicious, but they're also so fucking friendly

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and nice and like, well,make you fresh coffee, and they're they're
dope, and no breakfast and everything. No coffee, Continental coffee. That's
about it. That's like four bucksright there. No. And it was
good because made by her. It'snot like it's not corporated. She's like,
I'll make you fresh, I'll makeyou fresh nice, and dude,
it was fucking dope. You don'thave my double beds and had my fuck

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my spread. It was fucking dope. But see, the thing I do
appreciate is a full, nice restbefore the show. I slept in that
big, fluffy bed. You know, I never turned TV on once.
I fucking never been. I forgotthere was even a TV. And dude,
I had like a thirty Like howbig is that? It was like
as big as that TV? Howbig is that's fifty five? It was
like a fifty two fighting smaller reporters. I don't even think they make fifty

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actually made for this. I mighthave like like turned it on just see
if it worked. And then thewhole time I was there, I didn't
even watch it, dude. Thething that defined me about that place was
those hidden compartments on top of yourbed, like yeah, yeah, some
ship that was for my gun toput on top of the rafters. Right
there was like a weird they wereborn. It was. It was like

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it was an asthetic choice. Ithink there was like was there lighting connected
to it? Yeah, I thinkthere was like like a rip lighting so
they could put like a drop downlighting, so they put like a in
there. But I mean, ifyou wanted to put a glock over the
fucking rail, you you know,bring and showed off big Robbert bildo,
which I didn't have. But yeah, it was. It was funny because

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I was I was like, Iknow, we're talking about guns, like,
oh you like guns? And Iwas like, I got like fucking
six in my trunk and I pulledpulled one of the glocks out and gave
it on. The first thing doespoints in the lily? I don't point
it, like, hey, don'tpoint that in lily? Okay, no,
no, you'll put it in mymouth. I was like, what
are you doing now? That memobilia? So yeah, we we got there.

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You know, we pre game fora little bit. We brought some
some premium. I brought some jesusonsome premium. Jamison's in there and uh
got some I brought some times youguys, Croy, what time do we
leave? We know what time youguys get We got there around like eleven
ish the early eleven, No,probably eleven thirty, almost twelve, because
I got to you like I toldyou like I was gonna meet you up
at ten. Oh. We gotto Paul's, but we didn't get to

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the We got to the show.Yeah, but we you know, we
went to Starbucks a little bit andthen drove to Paulse got were in like
eleven is pos still early, stillearly smart? I mean for a concert,
right festival. I was up likean eight am showering with you're already
there with fine fucking h was squeakyclean when we got there, pump like
all the because about all the fineass like of course lotions and stuff.

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That's it was actually you know itwas. It was pretty easy. It
worked pretty clean. For Yeah.I like the toilet there too. There's
two methods of flushing, Like there'sa small there's a p flush and then
there's a dookie flush. Right,buttons on that on that toilet. Oh
so you're saying that there was asingular like a like a less powerful less
powerful? Why don't even know becauseI just thumb dropped that motherfucker all the

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time. Dude. They shout outto them for that. That's that was
above my technology or I didn't evenknow that. I appreciated that when I
said, it's been a while sinceI've seen those kinds of thing. Yeah,
but then they came and it wasso dope. They showed up and
it's like we're gonna flake out onballo. I don't know, you know,
just excited whatever. Yeah, thatwas great, man, Like I'm

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like it was frankly like me andLouis were grateful that you fucking planted a
flag for us in there so wecan just like get on this fucking because
to me personally, like my my, my stress about this whole thing was
just like it's gonna be a nightmarefucking navigating around that area. You know,
as far as like if you droveon your own trying to find parking,
like a traditional look at you know, I you would conventionally want to
go to a concert something like this, I'm like, oh shit, you

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know, okay, Paul has astation, a base camp, a base
camp, and we can just camand then uber it back to venue.
Yeah, it actually didn't seem thatbad when she got there. I think
are like our views from the otherwell, we came in kind of early.
People it would have been no.You know what, I actually sense
it too that I might overcompensed.It seemed kind of chill. Even when

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we were leaving, it seemed kindof chill because there was like they had
like big, gigantic parking lots,so it looked like parking wasn't that bad
really yeah, across the street.But then you know, I didn't think
about it was probably like sixty bucksthough, right, Yeah, it was
probably expensive, but I mean theuber was eighty, no ninety. That's
not even the one to get there, that was no, no, The

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one to get there was sixteen,sixteen bucks up. But the one to
get home was fu. Yeah.We had to pitch in on that.
Yeah. No, that one waseighty nine bucks to get out of it,
to get seven miles, to getseven miles, crazy, but what
are you going to do? We'reballing, bro, you know, we
were balling fucking balls. Yeah,yeah, It's like we would have used
that a parking anyways. So itwas that was that was a good trade
off. And it was like therewas a lot of people, but like

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there was no line to get inreally. It was actually used almost like
walking. There wasn't really a wayto bring your own stuff. You could
bring, no, you had itlike it was very like minimal you could
bring. You could even bring bags, and you had to bring small bags
our clear bags. But they didn'tpatch you down or anything. They packed
you down. Yeah. I noticedthat there were a lot of like I
think veteran concert goers. They weredown with the clear bags. That was

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like like a little clear bag culture. I was like I saw, yeah,
clear bag culture, but you knowall their little makeup and stuff is
in there, and then even dudesand you see like all their stuff.
Yeah, you couldn't bring a bagbigger than like six by nine inches.
So I had like a little boutpack that I like, hell, you
got that ship covered bro veteran,but veteran here. But would they take

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your stuff if you brought something inthere? Yeah? Yeah, will yes
man. Yeah, you can't takeyou can't take alcohol and or anything like
that. No, yeah, yeah, no, they were in contrast the
cruel world. They will just letyou in. They don't give a ship.
They said they wouldn't, but theydidn't even. Like, yeah,
they barely checked anything. Anything.I could have easily snuck in, like
my ripple and Vodkas in there.If you take if you take up something

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plastic, put it down your pants, they won't they won't check it.
They don't really patch you down.Just the bags, just the bags you're
and you of course you classic redyou know the metal detectors as well.
Yeah, you don't bring mine oldmetal and you're good. Yeah. I
just walked straight through. It wasfine. Yeah, in it was like
yeah, you know, like fuckingclear, you know, I wanted to.
I was like, Oh, ifI get a chance, I'm gonna
see forty feb Grave secrets. No, there's never any chance. Now we

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got there, a fucking like SkeletalFamily was playing, and oh but Skeltel
Family was badass. Dude caught themwhen we were walking run and I have
no idea that I'm a Skeletel ofFamily, And I'm like, yeah,
these guys are bad. I probablylove like all those New Darker bandscause they're
like industrial dark. It's like industrialgoth. But you I think you loved

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cool. But the fucking the numberone guys. The standout for me was
a clan of zymox Dude. Iwas like, dudes, Zymocks. They
kicked ass. Bro. They're justlike all these old goth dads and they
came out and they're like, yeah, I'm part of the Zimox d goddads
got das speaking of goth parents like, yeah, you know, ran across

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a couple of exes. Yeah,you know, it's funny. We all
had like chicks that were like,hey, what's up. But yeah,
like came across and was walking towardszimogs. An old old like I completely
forgot about her ex girlfriend was there. Her hair was shorter, so I
was like, but I know thechin anywhere and uh, she kids down
kids, they had their kids withthat. Al got like white does a

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ghost and ran away. He didn'twant to see her. He was fucking
scared. Who was it. Well, I ran into an old mid nineties
ex girlfriend. Oh the little one, little, the little little yeah,
but yeah, I saw her bywaiting in line for in the in the
women's restroom and I was like,oh crap it, so and then they

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yeah, and then I met upwith another ex girl and mine there,
which I actually turned out to bea lot more amicable because she seemed pretty
nice. She's super nice. She'slike the nicest and like riding the whole
time. She keeps staring at allthe whole wants it. That's funny,
right, because you could have hadthis. She was like in her head,
she was like here, wrongh likelooking at all. You know when

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she did have that that little bitof crazy eye though, like she's like,
that's that's my dude right there.But they was she was. She
was with a I've seen this guybefore. I some cheeseball, but I
call him the He's like the Renfieldor something. She was just some cook.
Hey, But you know what thatdude, that cook was cool man

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like that guy would he was downfor it. He would have stood.
He would have sat and went aPaul chairs while Alan her got on me.
He just sat there like that,staring. But he was pretty much
cooked up like a horse. Cooklike a horse. Yeah. I forgot
his name already. Yeah. Youknow what's funny is I want what's up?
Bro? How you doing. Hewas like, hey man, and

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I was like Ryan right right when, like for some reason like MB I
didn't played yet, but like rightwhen they saw it was if you leave
this one's round. It was likea left after we had Zion Box,
like okay, we'll get but thenduring I we forgot. During O M

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D they play, I was onlydreaming. And then Paul's like, man,
remember like picture I drew the wholetime an hour, completely thinking about
that already, and then al totallyredeem me by changing the I was only
dreaming, drawing into something spectacular,and then you should have that. I'm
like, no, because that wasthat's gross trash in the back got my

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classic track. I don't blame you, Paul. She I mean, you
know, like back then we werestill high school heads right like our mentality.
But she was cute. I alwaysthought she was cute. If I
was, she was really I wason eBay one day and I was searching
and I was only dreaming. Picturecame up. You know. Also Paul's
I D that got melted. Iwould pay like at least one hundred bucks
for each of those things, straightup, man, that I had that

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I was only dreaming. Laminated,so it could have survived that shirt somewhere.
But how about the idea that noI had cut it up in a
million pieces because you fuckers treated likegold. Dude, it's great, So
you know it was so stupid.It was the stupidest thing I ever happened.
How did I get melted again?What happened the laminator? The picture
melted inside the lamination machine, andthen he was all toxic, avenged up.

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If you lose your idea, youcan get you can bring your own
picture, but they have to flaminateit. That But the problem is laminador
ran too hot for MD. Itran too hot for whatever beautiful, delicate
photo work that I got for it. And then she looked at it,
she goes, oh, I'm notgoing to charge you for this. No

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I threw it away and I gotanother one because because it was like the
best thing in the world, hehad to destroy it. It was too
beautiful to it was too it wouldit would have it would it would?
It would have caused a Mendela effectin the Remember in the Simpsons when the
Halloween of Horrors, then when bartis Harry Potter and they turned one of
them into a frog. That wasa picture that he just kept throwing out.

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And then the bars, like there'sno line to the bars. Really,
there's a billion bars, so that'sgood. Yeah, and then the
food, Like me and Paul didn'thave to wait in line really for food,
but Al want to taco so hewaited wait, wait, I waited
like an hour, dude, whatdid you guys? I just went to
the shortest line and it was likeKorean fucking bowls. It was good.
It sounds good. They were sogood, Like no, but I mean,

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I gotta geting beauty and case ofthe case of beautia is man,
and that was that place was aferingcase of beers. I don't mind being
in line for that. So andI totally scored because I got a beef
bowl with Louie and then all decidedhooked me up with some tacos too,
so I got the double fucking dealman. It was like great. By
the time Al came out, Iwas already done. LOI was full.

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I was like I wanted to getI've got the three thugs for both of
them. But I'm just like,yeah, I'm sorry, I was unaware
of that. That's fun because theselfish bastard that I knew he said he
was done. So but yeah,I know, I was spending time with
Louis. He said he was done. I knew. I knew he was
done. Secretly, I knew hewas done. That's fine, that's fine.
I mean I wanted to cool.I got my I got my case.

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Just did wonders at my stomach.He doesn't he doesn't eat that much
anymore. He just eats like alittle bird and it's a little bit and
he goes, no, he justtastes the flavor and eating the little turkey
little nibs. Didn't want to usethe I got this man, Oh that

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is a part of it. Yeah. The port parties were pretty bad,
like pits of hell. Each oneof them was that bad, a pit
of bell it was. There's alot of them, but there was,
yeah, there was one. BecauseI was eating case of beeria, right,
I had a lot of sauce onit. Guys telling the story.
So I went to take a leakout a little bit afterwards. And then
you know, but that has nothingto do with the Porta parties. That's

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all you, that's all me.But I did not But I didn't dispose
of everything in the porter poty.That's that's how the story is tied together.
Oh you threw yourself. I throwthe salsa ridden plate. That's why
you had sauce on your hands.That got baby, baby, but always
had sauce on because I was eatinga fucking berry on it. But you
know, as part of a collateraldamage, my Dick was being touched with
sauce. That's right, he gothe got salsa. Dick bro at the

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first well the card because they're playingI have a burning fucking gone rea Dick.
Wow. But no, it's allgood though, Like it went away
for a little bit. I'm like, oh man, fucking Burns. And
of course I told these guys Iwas kind of buzzed. I would have
been quiet. He was having anexperience. He was having the Jimmy Hendrix
experience. Bro. But there duringdamn but damn no. But but yeah,

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like I took a league and Iwas like, came out like,
oh man, my Dick burn Igot the sauce. He took it inside
the bathroom the well. Yeah,because I had I had my thing.
I was like, I don't knowwhat to do this. I just came
in. I just went in Saturdaythe league and then oh, okay,
I could throw it in this fuckinghell hole in this part of body.
It was basically just one big fuckingburied hole on Okay, let's talk about
the setting by the way too,of this of this festival. So basically

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the beach is sealed off for everyoneto you, no one could just get
on there. And I was Ithought that was a little weird. And
then they go no, because everyonego in the ocean and die. They'll
just go there. Like when wegot there, there's already people that were
hammered, drunk, like gone,couldn't even walk and it was like twelve
o'clock in the afternoon. Yeah,those people who went through the water and
just like floated floated away. Ifelt ripped off. But you know what,

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then when I thought about it,I was like, oh, yeah,
there's probably people that are not responsible. They'll just die. Yeah,
the sharks and the jellyfish and justjust drowning in general would happen. I
mean, I guess it could befor the best because they were like,
again, like as I told theseguys before, felt like the fucking Berlin
wall in there. You know,they have two layers of walls to separate

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you and the beach. So like, if there's anyone who wants to processed
that institutional walls, you know,someone's gonna take you down, you know.
But like it was because I wasworried about it too, because like
I you know, how beach weatheris fucking windy and it's gonna it's supposed
to rain that night that day,and it would have been a nightmare.
But it wasn't bad because those whatthey what they used to to block out

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people from getting on the beach actuallyhelped, yeah, block the wind the
whole festival. Yeah, that's good. Yeah, so but walking on the
sand was terrible. It was wellplanned, the infrastructure it was. It
was if you're a VIP, theVIP I wanted VIP tickets, but then
no one else was gonna give VIPtickets. Would have been there by myself,

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But after thinking about it, I'mlike, well, it'd have been
nice to be there about myself withbecause the VID deal with me and pausible
just kidding. Was cool. Itwas like stadium seating, Oh wow,
and then you have like it's stilllike literally like five hundred feet away from
But that's cool for me. Idon't want to be all I want to
see it. I wanted to seefucking Paul McCluskey's balls man. Who's Paul

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mc Who's Who's Oh spectacular fucking liveact. And it was so funny because
there they were so apologetic about,hey, we're just doing a speed set
and like we're just playing the hits. That's what they say. Yeah,
but they were like cool goo godash lit girls. Look it was they
played das the girls to the TestlaGirl. Hey, my bad, my

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bad, I'm just kidding. It'sTestla Girls, Tesla Girls. My bad,
I was front. Were fucking ElonMusk took ahold of this, but
he was so good. They wereso fucking good because, yeah, the
end o D of all the actsin there has the has the newest album.
You know, they win an albumlike a month couple of more.

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Yeah, they's called bow Staircase.Great, great song too. I took
a listen to it because you knowit not I have to listen to it.
It's a really good like electro pop. Okay, yeah, like you
know it's it definitely doesn't sound likethe OMD that we Yeah, but it's
a little more like twenty first century. But the fact that they can fucking
throw it down with the rest ofthe newer acts. I do appreciate that

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about it one. Oh definitely powerhousebro. They were they were fucking like
like in a in a place likejust see them. Yeah no, they
said the Greek. They're coming tothe Greek and that's that's what they wanted
everyone, guys, come on,come to the Greek. You can see
a better show, like a morecomprehensive show. Oh then like for like
if you leave, it's just likeMolly Ringwall the whole time, like on

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the just like like a slow mopink projection of Molly Ringwall during the movie
pair uh yeah image And it's funny, right every time they sing a song
like a song from a soundtrack,Oh, this is from a movie and
they would see right that, orthey sing what was the other one?
They say, oh, do youwant to hear another song from Sean Hughes
movie, Like there's teasing us,like, oh yeah, we got more.

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They did that Forever, Live andDie. That one they did Electricity,
Electricity that they opened Electricity. Yeah, that was cool. That was
crazy. They started with electricity.I was like, damn, you know
and I recorded that that that bitright, I was recording it, and
then you know, I was Iposted Instagram stories. Instagram flagged it for
saying, oh you know this isthe actual song. I'm like, because,

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yeah, it's played by the originalband. But the thing is because
I know that how that that algorithmworks, just like if it's like one
to one with the actual song,it would flag it. That means O
and D was that tight. Yeah, yeah, that's a really interesting point
enough. They are testament to thealgorithm because usually you could you could drown

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out the algorithm by with crowd noise. But like everyone was just like it
didn't matter. It didn't matter unlessthe AI has has progressed. Yeah.
Yeah, you know because I pustedthe chameleons and I didn't get like,
oh that's chameleons because the stream mainstreamship, you know, like yeah,
chameleons was Cominos was great too.Actually, Commos was the first man we

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saw you going there, right,yeah, and yeah that was we be
lined it, dude, we belined there and all he was due.
I was so fucking great, dude, Like I had a friend. They
started with don't fall, right,yeah, don't fall I mean Communis is
amazing live. But I had afriend though. She she's you know,

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like she she goes to these festivals, goes see like every fucking concert you
can. She she was critiquing everyact that she saw. She said that
Chameleons, you know, like Comunos, is kind of off. They were
better off as a as a smallvenue band. Do you agree with that
one? It's the best I've everheard them sound. Yeah, Like,
dude, make me angry. She'snever seen them like back then when they

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first got back together. Maybe shedidn't. I she knows, like I
don't. Yeah, I don't.I've never seen them before. Probably I'm
not buying it, bro, becausethe command presence they had at that time
of day and in that venue wasstriking. Yeah, dude, they struck
fear in my heart. Dude.It was like and it was like in

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the fucking it was twelve o'clock inthe afternoon. Yeah, it was fucking
broad daylight, fucking beating sun andship and they actually invoked like an emotional
response in my heart hearing those fuckingthose guitars pound and fucking bird on his
fucking bass. Paul and I sawthem way back in the day, right,
Oh, dude, remember we metthem on Yeah, we hung out
with them. A really nice dudehere was a really nice guy. And

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then we met some dude. He'slike, yeah, he was go to
all the shows and you were hangingout with this weird Okay, we're hanging
with this giant, buff ass dudewho I think wanted to Brian. I'm
not sure, but these you guyswant to smoke some weed. And I'm
like, I guess this is alltrue. We're in the guy's car who
we was just hanging out in hiscar drinking before the show to tell I
guess we got to tell the story. That's what it was. After we

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met Mark Burgess, we met hisgirlfriend, right, Paul, Yes,
he's wearing one of those spooky hats. I don't think so. I don't
seem like a gossip one was like, no, not really, but they
were cool. They were super cool. He was really humble. I just
remember the dude. I think hehad a chameleon shirt, but it was
like the tightest fucking chameleon shirt becausethe dude was ripped like a motherfucker.
He's a couple of years older thanus, and he's been going to all

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the shows. He's until he's intothe scene. But you wouldn't be able
to tell if you saw him.He's just like a big dude. Like
he's like a big corporate dude,but he's a chameleons, comeleions, chameleons.
Like we got in his car.He got in his car, he
started drinking, he started passing theweeder, and he was cool. It
was a cool guy's cool guy.He started telling us like his glory days
going to all the shows, andthen I laughed. I came back him

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power kissing now, but I wasn'twilling it was he was. It was
more of like a like a forestkiss and he boke something in here and
then all he said was but heAnd then we went to the show and
we kind of lost touch. ButI saw him like rocking out. But
anyway, it's just what did thatlook like? It was? It was
nice he slit the swamping on them. But this was back when all of

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them were still playing. You know, the whole band was still playing,
but this one wasn't all of them, dude. I got both those albums
signed, The Fan and the Bellows, the Script of the Bridge and Script
of the bridge, and it's funny. They're like a young guy playing drums,
but everybody else seemed like they werethem possible. Yeah, the guitar
player was there, he was there, guitar players like maybe not the he's

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like a main dude. Man,he's a bass player, that's right.
And the two guitar players look likethe brothers almost. Yeah, they looked
like they were the band. Yeah, and they were like playing. Was
there a lot of people for themor no? Yeah? You know what's
funny, there was. There wasa nice little meeting. You know.
What I would say is that therewas a primarily a gothic show man like,

(26:52):
like the whole event was kind ofgothic. Yeah, I mean it
does. And we have like fuckingif they didn't have like Betty Two's,
like there wouldn't be like not toomany normies, right, there's a lot
more like eighties moms because of becauseof Betyars Fears and surion. I'm sure
first I had that dark edge,yeah, sure, love to gravitate to.

(27:15):
But the like I think Beffty Two'sand the violent femmes, oh yeah,
yeah, those two are like we'relike we're packed with like normies and
then everybody else was pretty much goth. It seemed like, right kind of
it seemed that it seemed like andyou know, it was great about that
show. Everyone was really nice.You know, I don't know what it
is because I grew up in placewhere everyone's like fuck you, nerd or

(27:37):
or fucking this or sucking that.That's called high school may be so so
I'm always like ready to like,you know, fuck you back, or
always just time to get down orwhatever. But everybody was just like excuse
me. It was very pleasant andI was like, hello, hello,
there's no yeah, I was like, no agro assholes, right, no
agro. Fucker's like it's the openare you know. And the beach vibe
when you got out, like whenyou started, you know, with just

(28:00):
the Huntington Beach people, there wasasle a lot of assholes and honey hunting.
Yeah, you know the natives.The natives are restless in hunting.
There's a weird fucking vibe there.All the people at the place were they
were pretty nice, and it wasit was so sho A lot of people
they're too traveled, true, right, you know that's funny because the little
lady she goes oh, you know, everybody's from England. I'm like,

(28:22):
oh, really everybody? Well,I mean it's according to her, she's
out there from England. All right, cool, but that's dope. I
mean, yeah, that's cool.It's like they're they're mad that they're their
favorite acts transplanted to America, primarilyLos Angeles. But that's cool, that's
cool. But yeah, so yeah, we got to see the Chameleons,
and then that's when we jumped intom D. All right, and then

(28:45):
because Camos was the first act weactually saw, like took the time to
catch brilliant, fucking brilliant. Yeah, and then om D just like rocked
our heads off. They were like, fuck, these guys are good,
man. I think we knew thatthey were always good, but I didn't
know that they're gonna be that goodline. I mean, this is my
first time ever seeing Yeah, Ididn't know what to expect, really,

(29:06):
but I knew, you know,they've been touring for a while now,
so sure they're fucking That's when wekind of took our lunch break, I
think, so we could have watchedeither violent fans followed beyond that we were
running away from your violent front.Yeah, but we can hear them as
we're walking away. We think we'reheading towards the Cardigans. After that,
yeah, yeah, but we weregetting food though when when all that?

(29:30):
So we got lunch and then wewent we drifted, We're going to have
a nice lunch Cardigan's date, youknow. And and it's weird because I
haven't listened to Cargans twenty years.I guess I don't know any but apparently
over are they from where they're fromNorway, where Sweden, They've been up
to a lot of things that soundnothing like the only album that I own.

(29:51):
So I was liket to Break theRabbit, right so when we know,
yeah, the one with all theirpop classics on it. They only
played one song out of that andthe rest were these ballads, and I
was I didn't know any of it, so I was a little bit longer.
There are people that were into it. I was like, oh,
well, there's like some hardcore Cardiganfans, I guess. So yeah,
I mean I think they probably flewallway from Sweden to see the Cardigans,
right. Yeah. It was goodthough, I had fun, It was

(30:12):
nice. Yeah, yeah, Iwas just like, you know, like,
hey, you know it's still theoriginal band. And I was just
waiting for for love Fool. Yeah. Then Love Fool came and then we
gave a little bit of a bounceand they didn't play Carnival. I was
waiting for Carnival, but they didn'tplay that. Yeah, but that's cool.
We tolerated the Cardigans to get theSoft Cell. Oh damn. Then

(30:33):
Soft Soap came out. That wasmadness, Bro Sausal and you're the ones
that killed it that night. Wellalso, Fears are amazing, but but
Sausau was fucking no band for SoftCell. Just it was just them them
to know it was not them too. And then the two fucking dudes,
man, they're too fucking hit man. No. But the keyboard player had
like four keyboards a chaos pad andhe was just working it the whole time.

(30:56):
That's cool. He had like vintagekeyboards too. I was like,
damn, yeah, vintage keyboards isplaying them, they're like And then the
project projector was cool. Yeah.Projecting was very like fucking NonStop, you
know, ecstatic dance. What timeis this when they started to play,
I think it was eight pm.It was already night time. It was
getting dark. Yeah, it's likefive six o'clock. It was getting dark

(31:18):
ready because yeah, like by thetime they played sex Orf, it was
already dark. And then all thethings was just like ads from like the
l A Weekly that was like thebackground, just like a bunch of atches
going by. It's really cool.That was cool. That was whoever like
the graph you know, the artistDepartment, the department first off, sell
chef's guess on that. But theysounded tough. I was like, damn,

(31:38):
he sounds like he sounds But Ilove that. Mark was actually playing
with it with the crowd too.Yeah, so you know the screaming part
and sex tour, he wants toscream it. Oh. I was all
into that man a lot with him. He's just he still got it man.
Yeah, he's a little bit chubbier, but he still got it out.
I was like, I was surprised. Actually, I haven't seen him
in the ages, Like you know, we did the the video for Tainted

(32:00):
Love. How Spelty was always right, always looks like that. Yeah.
Now he's like fucking dad bought itout, you know. But he still
had a real like tour to fourgame man. But the voice, the
voice is still there. That innocent, smooth, you know, very calming
yet somewhat it's funny, goes,I'm actually I'm not gay. I'm like

(32:23):
really he's no. Never happened thatvoice and that was that was remarkable.
But it was cool to see that. Yeah, Like but me and Paul
were, you know, remarking aboutceiling Ryan Gosling. Oh, they were.
They're the highlight of my fucking night. Dude. Those guys were tough,
bro. They were like matching shadesand they're just in these big I

(32:44):
like that he gave them. Hegave them solos too. Yeah, they
got to sing a part or werethey when they sang Tainted Love, they
got to do like a oh yeah, they totally got like a like a
part man. Yeah, he hebroke them off. It was It was
dope, and they're so tough,man, they're just like I don't even
think we fucking cell. But butthat was remarkable. I mean, Soft

(33:06):
Cell hasn't played in forever, right, Yeah, I can't even believe they
were there, Like, I mean, Mark Alm has been kind of getting
around, but get Dave Ball withthe same act. That was that was
the glincher right there. Like thatwas definitely you know, like I mean,
frankly, I don't know how Cardigansgot so high up in the bill
because we've miss psychedelic first too,right, we sacrificed psychedelic first for and

(33:28):
Cardigans. Yeah, I think so. But at the same time, yeah,
so yeah, we wind up.Yeah. But but but there was
a reason for the Bundy Man didn'ttalk about the Bunny Man. Yeah,
yeah, because we wanted to seeSoft Cell and then go to Echo.
Yeah, because we you know,Cardigans was a pleasant it was a pleasant
like Holder because we had to bethere for Mark Allman anyways, So we're
gonna have lunch with the Cardigans andthen hold till it was Echo. After

(33:53):
after that's yeah, then then wewent and Echoes sounded bad because mccallough's voice
was gone. He said he hadLara. But you know, it was
really weird. It's like the firsttwo songs was Robbie Kreeger and there's everybody
Robbie Kreeger. I'm like, whatthe fuck is Robbie Creeer doing that?
And then and then what was dopeis like Robert Creeger did obviously Legends from

(34:16):
the Doors, but then he diduh, he did strange, People are
Strange. He played People are Strange, and he said, and he goes,
this song is from a movie,and then they do for else he
does what he said, right right, right right, yeah, yeah,
and he goes and they played it. It's cool. I never heard him
play people Are Strange before, sothat was kind of cool. Yeah,
they don't play it live some timesdidn't play it live. Yeah, is

(34:39):
it just Will Sargent and you knowcolor. No, it's all well,
yeah, it's just there. Andthen the other is just a backing bag.
I mean it's kind of yeah.He he's uh dead, you know,
but what's the BA is just heowns a he owns like a fabrication
company now, and then he tours. He just tours in England with other

(35:00):
bands. He plays with like alot of the guys from like uh like
Lightning Seeds, like that whole recordscene he played with which might call it
Drink to Drink to Care Wild Swans. He plays with all those bands when
they know, yeah they're like inthat scene he was turning with the Wild
Swans for like a long time hangout. I'd like to see them were right.

(35:23):
That's like some wild, dark newwave or what would you consider that
is there is there a scene forthat. It's just like, yeah,
it's like the Liverpool Zoo Records scene. It's all those guys. They all
pop, but very dark dark totrench coat pop. Trench coat pop.
It's like, uh, port pop, so like a seaport because they're like

(35:44):
Liverpool's a seaport. They always thinkabout like sailing and stuff like that.
Yeah, after Soft Cell, wewe well we were trying to catch the
Human Oh yeah, we lost eachother where I lost the How was life

(36:06):
for you being apart? I was? I was? I was. I
felt a little destrata first, sincethe reception was garbage in there. Like,
I don't know about you guys,but my phone was at the beach.
At the beach really well, becausethere was too much of the interference.
There's there's a lot of there's toomuch action. Yeah, I could
not. I mean I was ableto call Louis eventually, but yeah,

(36:27):
So we were going to go seeHuman League and we were on our way
there and somehow, I don't know, I walk way too fast or something
and I lost them. I turnedaround. You were on a B line,
bro, and you just you justwant to and I want to get
at a certain angle of Human League, but apparently they had other ideas to
get to another angle, and that'swhere I lost them. But you watched
you guys saw them. I sawa little bit of Human League, but
I had seen that. I waslooking for these guys, me and Louis

(36:50):
when we heard. I got kindof entangled with the free eighties arcades that
they got doing there, that theyhad a little arcades. Oh they had
eighties arcades, understand, Yeah,it was it was you know where Human
League played. Paul like, ifyou go further in the back of there's
a there's a huge a DeLorean.Wow, they can take pictures with.

(37:12):
Yeah, so there's a lot ofphoto op sections there too, So yeah,
I can get busted at. SoI kind of walked around. He
didn't play because I was linked forthese guys. And then I'm like,
then I heard the Beef is playingon the screen. Hey, why don't
you come listen? Why don't yougo? Hell yea. But so I
went there and I was like,wait a second, I don't see them
on stage. Are they like hidingsomewhere? Is this experimental set? And

(37:35):
then bo they're playing on the otherside of the festival. They're just projecting
the video feed from that other sideof the thing to where the that set
was. So I'm like, oh, okay, so I'll just watch them
here. Then well, you know, like like I can't get a hold
of Louis and Paul. So thatwas my experience going on there. Tell
them about your Human League experience though, guys. Oh man, we had
a great time, but the problemwas I wasn't gona let you out of

(37:58):
my sight because I'm bad. Iman. I was like, if I
get lost, I'm done for brojust throw them in the ocean because I'll
never find these guys again. SoI was like falling Louily, I was
like, I don't al he's acasually award. Let's just keep going Paul.
Then Paul just grabbed my bolt loopand I just grabbed his bow loop,
and I was ready to go.Now. We then we just like,
all, let's go to the bat. We used the restroom and then
we went to go try to findout. We just ended up going to

(38:20):
go is it New Order lit orno? Like you can see around when
you're walking around, Yeah, youcould see it. That's good. But
then we just ended up like watchingNew Order and then waiting for hours.
Oh that's when we went to Orderwithout our which was sad because I wanted
to hang out because it was fuckingamazing. But you saw him at the
same time. It was there too. I was there too, but it
was a sea of people. Imean, we're we thought we could probably
see him, but we didn't seehim because me and I were both wearing

(38:44):
red beanies. Yeah, so wecould kind of see each other. But
it's smart. We couldn't see him. He got he got kind of close
to the stage and we were kindof back. But New Order was awesome.
Yeah, New Order was very good. You've seen him afore? No,
no, no, that was thefirst time. Okay, maybe maybe
Louis saw him before. You know, it's my first time. When we

(39:04):
saw Peter Hook many times. Theyplayed Ceremony and level turns apart like two.
Jody was crazy regret. They opened, They opened with regret and that
was cool. It's like dang,Dan dang. But what do you feel
about the fake Peter Hooks fall?I mean, it was okay, but

(39:24):
I was I was all down forPeter Hook but you guys told me I
hadn't been in the band for fora long time. He hasn't been,
so there's there was never any chance. There's never any chance like hook was
gonna come out and punch somebody duringRight when they started there sat Peter Hook
dropped that he's gonna be touring onInstagram. It's just funny. Yeah,
he loves to do And he didn'tjust post it on his thing. He

(39:46):
actually paid sponsorship, like it wasa sponsored ad. Oh so he was
like, he's he wants everyone toknow. Yeah, classic HOOKI, it's
gonna be our world tour, LikeI mean, it's not like the very
for the rest of the year.It's twenty twenty four is fucking man.
First off, with a graphic designs. I wish he could have been just

(40:07):
chilling and like, hey, youknow guys, I want in on that
and fucking let's do this. Butnow he was I can imagine though.
He's he's an ornery dude. Man. He's he's not gonna take ship from
nobody, just do his own thing, man. But yeah, what do
you feel about Bernard Sumner's hat?I hated his hat. He came out
with that hat just to I don'tknow, what pissed me off? Dude.

(40:29):
He's wearing like an old man hat, like a like a but not.
He's wearing a baseball cap, butlike a cheesy baseball cap. Like
what I mean? I knit likereally old with that hat on. I
don't know why, but when hetook it off, he ate like you
know that was my My theory isthat it was a ploy to like to
get you to think he was weakwhen he's strong, you know. And

(40:49):
because the Mich he popped that house, He's like, I'll go green ones,
Hull got blue ones hung green.I was like, whoa, but
four He's just like what he hadhis glasses on too, He took his
glasses. Yeah, he transformed.He was like Bernie Saunders to like a
van down. Where's like, youthought I was weak, but I'm strong.

(41:12):
Yeah, we're talking about it,like he looked like he was gonna
golf afterwards that yeah, like hand he's tired and then and even Louis
Co signed him. Dude, he'slike, oh, but he's old.
You know he needs it to becausehe was cold. Something warms. He
comes out of your hands. Ilove him. I don't want him to

(41:35):
I don't want his head to becold dire there Hontington Beach, but not.
But the Order, though, waswas amazing. Uh. I had
a good view of Stephen Morris's drummingand he was just like, oh,
that's right. The drummer was fuckingon pointed, he was thunderballing. He
was bad ass. Yeah, Stephenwas killing. None of the songs are
slowed down the fucking and they hadamazing vituals. Nice servigels are crazy.

(42:01):
They were slick bro everything like,yeah, another emotional like I had like
an emotional thing. Man, itwas going on. I could feel it.
Then after that we got strong likea horse, right strong. Well
we Unfortunately it wasn't that strong becauseby the time we got through Tears first

(42:21):
they were because New Order went long, right, so apparently they wanted to
go a little longer. But Bernardsaid, oh, they're cutting us off,
putting us off, so we'll justended with this song. I was
love with tars apart, which isbecause we heard the Hooky version live and
down the Orders version, which isa lot were refined a little more modern,
you know, but it was stillthat's right. They were throwing a

(42:44):
little bit of stank on that ship. Yeah, all their songs had like
some stank on them. Yeah,what do you think about that run?
They were like they were not afraid, which was which I thought was a
brilliant move on their part. Likethey'll throw like a like like a five
count or something like what's a pro? Right? Yeah, So because I
was like I was impressed, anda lot of other songs, like Remix,
like the beginning was like like completelydifferent, and then you come in

(43:07):
You're like, oh, ship almostlike interstitials like it was cool, like
wearing a hat, yeah hat,the hat had all that speakers and then
sucking coms and there, so youhad all that and he played a recorder
too. Oh yeah, I sawoh the little the little air recorder with

(43:27):
the piano in it. Yeah,piano. But but yeah, then you
know onwards the tears were fears,which was a fucking it was crazy.
It was it was they were likefull of people blocks, I mean literally
blocks, right because basically they're thelast act, so they headlined the whole

(43:49):
thing, so every single surviving concertfestival goer will be packing it, and
all the other acts got shut down, so it was there was the beacon
of fucking light and there was stilla lot of people. Yeah, yeah,
yeah people. What was it latenine, Yeah, it was late
No, but you got to thinkwe've been there since. Like we're drained,

(44:09):
man, our main vein was drained, so were just like it.
We'll just fucking get a drink,get some drinks and just hang out and
just we fucking just went the oppositeaway and watched from the screen on the
other side where I saw the Thatwas cool. No, that was cool.
We all man did it. Wedidn't care. But we had a
great time because we were partying withthe drunk people. It turned out that

(44:30):
the opposite end of the stage wasthe drunk nursery. There was so much
garbage though on the sand. Itwas just like ah and all the drunk
people who were like flopping out,and then we were just all singing songs,
you know, hanging out with itwas the nursery. It was nice,
but we were too tired. Wedon't want to fucking fight. You

(44:51):
have to go through from my blockto where I used to work my California
grill, get that close, alittle closer to fears. That was that
far. It's full the people thataren't gonna let you through and you know,
so like, yeah, we justenjoyed the waning moments, but the
first did kill it, you knowon the female singer though, that was

(45:14):
backing up on tears. Okay,look musically she's she's brilliant, she's beautiful.
I just I just don't like thatshe's hogging up all the time with
the tears the monitor time. Youmean, because we were watching them live.
You know, I've always surmised who'sthe lead singer Roland. I've always

(45:37):
surmised that that he loves that womanlike he cares a lot about it.
That's your head cannon, right,that that because he's he's promoted her a
lot. I mean, who isjazzinger? Yeah, she's dressing but she
was on tour with him last timeto Okay, I've never from the og,
but no, well she well she'sfrom the O g Rowland times because

(45:57):
he's been carrying her along for along time to and whenever he does jazz
stuff, she's always there. SoI I I think that there's they have
like a jazz relationship. Look,he delves into a lot of jazz stuff
and he utilizes her a lot,So I imagine like something they have a

(46:19):
friendship. Okay, I was bitter. I was bitter at the at the
love that I that I perceived thatthey have because I want him to be
like, no, I hate everybody, so it's all me, me,
me, and then and then andthen you know, to know that he's
the nicest guy in the world,it fucks me up. I mean,

(46:42):
look at him. He looks like, yeah, Louis, Louis says,
he's the fucking nicest guy. Jesus. That's like, that's like I would
kill for that. Main He's exactly. It's like he's even like dude and
still go be headstrong like a horseman. And there pull him and kurtse
Smith, dude, like they mustdo like fucking pilates or something. They're

(47:05):
in like amazing shape head. There'sDad Boughs right, he didn't they mark
at a dude. It was toomuch mams for me. But he was
all Paul Rubin's up, dude.He was all in pee herman. He
was bad. And they were stilllike, you know, their body farms
are still like nineteen eighty five,and and Louie tells me that did it.

(47:28):
It was Kurt what Kurtsmiths Smith?Yeah, he says Kurt Smith even
like recanted and said, yeah,it was all my fault when we broke
up, and I was like,oh man, yeah, so so at
no time was it ever Rollingbell's fault. Ever, he never did anything,
He never did nothing. Yeah.So, I mean you see the elemental
cover of you know, the albumwhen he went kind of se sad man.

(47:52):
You know, Sadd was so godon the Gothis covers of a non
goth album. Dude, it wasfucking Saddy was holding you know, like
dead wreaths and rode. I mean, that's fucking sad, dude, he's
mourning that Kirk said exactly. Bro. The golden soul that is I could

(48:13):
have sworn that, you know,mark of a band is how the way
they sound live is the way theysounded on a CD. And like,
fuck, I mean, can't getany more true than those guys. Yeah,
even like Pale Shelter damn dude.How many didn't miss beat? Like
you know, when I when wesaw Susie a Cruel World earlier in the
year, her voice was just likeit can't can't carry that note anymore.

(48:36):
These guys like, wow, it'sstrong horses horses. How many guys playing.
They had a guitar player with them, and then they had a keyboard
player, and then a drummer andthen the backup singer in the backup singer
and girl, and then Roland playsguitar the whole time, and then Chris
Smith plays baseball days. Right,even when they're seeing dude, like they're

(48:58):
beautiful voices, they're still playing.It's crazy show and this thing is too.
And what was cool is that youknow they can just play. They're
engaging the crowd too. You gottasucking rolling horse the ball, you know,
telling people to shout with the withhis mic and I was like,
wow, that head oversh louis doinghis head her wheels dance. That was
the lever of the monkey. Andyeah, so after that everybody left.

(49:22):
WHOA. After that, we walkedback to just singing Pitt Wrong as loud
as we could. All the wayout of the venue, we walked,
we literally walked like seven eight blocksto get to downtown Huntington Beach to find
a spot for our uber to pickus up. We were hungry, like
horses. Followed me up though,you know, thanks to my oh yeah,

(49:44):
yeah, yeah, I got acheese. Nick the side of my
laptop. It was humongous. Ididn't finish it that night. I ate
half of it, but I definitelyfinished the rest of it. Was beautiful,
bro, because we were I wasfucking exhausted, man, I was
so tired. And then the sandsand, Like I know I much about

(50:06):
it, but the sand, onceyou got on actual like concrete ground,
it's like, oh god, whata fucking relief. It's but yeah,
we were exhausted. So but still, you know, we're just like walking,
you know, away from the festival. Thousands of people were doing the
same thing, looking for the dude. We're doing like this weird little speed
walk, and then people were jumpingin front of us. It was it
was a weird like adventure. Youget a couple of people hating Canadians.

(50:30):
Remember that hobo looking for hating Canadiansfor some fucking reason, there's Noobo his
vendo or once you got into honeyto Beach, you're like, oh,
that's racism. It's fully alive.And I was like, me and Louis
and Paul, we made a pact. Next year, we're gonna fucking get
a real hotel. Right. Ohsee, that's that was my original plan.

(50:51):
I wanted to stay in the bombAss hotels, but they were like
a grand there were a thousand bucksif you buy it. If you get
it on the next day, itwas seven hundred dollars on the Highatt Regency.
I checked it that night before.I'm like, what if I just
fucking stay there, like seven hundreddollars, I'm like, that's all right.
But if I pitched in with youguys, well, okay, if
I could have, if I couldhave put it, because you know,

(51:13):
my whole package was like three fiftynine some of us. I could have
saved the money on ubers and shipand yeah, I mean we get it
ahead of time. To get itwait like months, you know, so
like I'll just get a fucking spota hunting beach in November on a on
a on a gamble that an event'sgonna happen. It's just alterable bands.

(51:35):
It's gonna be violent, just violent, violent cover Vans, Depeche Boat and
but but yeah, like so that'skind of a semi you know pack that
we made. We're like, okay, if they're doing this next year,
we're fucking getting uh, you know, or if there's another like big concert,
like, and Ryan, you're verymuch welcome to join us. Sure,
we would love for you to joinus. Ye know, I really
I really did want to stay atone of the big old hotels. But

(51:58):
my numbers were like skewed. Theywere like a grand. I was like
that, dude, And then thoseare fancy, Those are fancy nights.
Hotels like those are expensive even whenthere's not a thing going on. Yeah,
but I don't think they've had aprom or something like that. I
don't think they're a grand on anormal day. I don't pay grand by
myself, but if we're collaborating oncosts, yeah, normally they probably five

(52:20):
hundred bucks. Yeah, that wouldhave been totally sweet. No, because
there I was pretty I was prettyjealous of those people. They just got
to go to the Cross Hotel.We probably could have seen like Kurt Smith
in the bar or something like that. Yeah, right, we could also
hang out and they come back andright, okay, No, but we
could have just like been in theroom chilling until like the community now you

(52:44):
can see them, that's true.I'm sure like the Mark and we could
have probably watched like the earlier bands, like from the from the outside,
right, there if we would havegot right there getting getting back on track,
like we're okay, so we're oh, so we get back. So
we called the uber. We eatcalled the Uber. And the first thing
he did was try to get sellPaul some some spitcoin, some crypto.

(53:06):
Man, Hey, man, doyou know about crypto? And to me,
it's just like ah man, Likemy my old twenty twenty one self
is just like ah, I'm makingmy sea thing. Yeah. I was
like, ah man, he goes, so do you know about a big
horn? I'm like, oh yeah. He goes, well, what do
you know about it? I go, uh, I I don't know anything.
He called me, He called meon it. Yeah. I wanted

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to say so much ship, butI'm just like, I'm gonna let this
ride. I want to hear himtalk of what he's trying to sell.
That well, it was it wasafter Paul threw him a twenty dollars bill.
Obviously we were we were just greatfulthat he fucking got Obviously he knew
that Paul didn't know that, ormaybe I mean, Paul knows that you
tip on on the thing, butmaybe he's thinking, oh, this old
man kind doesn't know that the phone. You tipped me on the phone.
But this guy's giving me paper money. Yeah, he's like, guess what

(53:47):
I'm gonna get this. I'm gonnarip this guy off with some defunct crypto
currency. It's only thirty seven cents, was it again? Like it was
like it was it was like sixtyseven, Yeah, it was. It
was less than a dollar per coin. And it's like, no, if
it's less than a dollar, that'sbullshit as a bullshit coin. But he
said it's starting right now. That'swhy. Well, he's wanted to give

(54:08):
me the level. I don't onlyI only tell this to my family and
my close friends, you know.He said, But you guys are cool
guys, of course, my horseof course. Do you guys hit strong
like horse strong? Okay, youguys are cool. I'm going to tell
you you do bitcoin, Yes youhave. It's easy. Go in exchange.

(54:31):
You get the coin exchange based oncoin base, because I was that
guy at one point, you know, the you know the corner base,
you know, the coin exchange man. Because yeah, like he was selling
a coin that's like I've never heardof before and it will probably crash,
and he's not selling it. He'sjust promoting it. He was Rick.

(54:53):
So he's saying he's put a lotof money into it. So the thing
is, the more you get peopleto buy into it, the more it
could be like a pyramid schemes ifwe pumped exactly appearance ohmid yeah, but
anyway, so yeah, he pickedus up from our cheese steak, Leaden

(55:15):
and Diversion and took us back toPaul's hotel. Where back to the hotel
and was playing on the radio.By that time, I was fucking dead
tired. Yeah, I thought theseguys were going to stay. I go,
hey, I got the second bed, but you guys have to snugg
spoon Louis that night. And thenthey needly packed up and said, hey,

(55:37):
thanks for a great time. AndI was like, well, okay,
I wanted to stay to hang out. I wanted to bring Paul with
us. Yeah, but yeah,it's like, oh, you know,
like he Louise my ride. Bro. I was like, it was like
I needed a shower because it wasit was pretty disgusting. Yeah, like
it took me like you know,like you know, like my shoes had

(56:00):
so much sand and oh dude,I still got sand in my boots to
this day and my cuffs in mymy pants had so much sand inside of
it was funny. Yeah, Igotta go down to the car wash with
the air blowers to actually get themthe deepest sand. Dude. Okay,
my hotel had sand, My mycar heead sand, My house has sand.

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And now it's like, finally I'mthe last. I'm at the funko
pop level where I got to blowthe last of the sand out of it.
It's been in the car making circlesout of the Yeah, damn fucking
sand. Bro It's and everything.I know how like sand any any people?

(56:43):
I'm not I'm not gonna say itbecause it's too much pain in the
world right now. But but yeah, so after that, you know,
like for me, it took meabout three days to recover from that.
Really recharged my social battle. Well, to me, it's like, you
drink more than as I got asI got older. I did drink older,
but it wasn't alcohol based really.It's just that I've come to realize

(57:04):
about me is that if I'm arounda lot of people now, it's like,
oh it's social you have social anxiety. It takes uh, yeah,
like I would just want to hangout by myself. You know, it's
different. No, no, yeah, to me, it's like I want
to fucking hide in a cave fora little bit, you know. No,
no, no, I have thesame thing. It's social anxiety.
Too much people, You get overstimulated, right, yeah, so I

(57:25):
recharge my social battery. It's socrazy from like the people who hung out
with the most people, like atthe clubs and stuff like that. Right,
yeah, that's because it's I don'tI think, like I really think,
like the weird fucking COVID mental horizonhappened with the COVID. The COVID
yet and like just like okay,all of a sudden, I'm here now
by myself, and like I've alwaysknown I've had it. It's just it's

(57:45):
weird because like as a kid,you know, I could go to like
concerts with thousands of people and thengo to raves and stuff. Right,
but but there are certain points wherelike I feel the energy and I cannot
take only so much of it.And we're also so you're drinking too,
so that that numbs a lot ofthat, you know, anxiety. That's
what I never thought that, Soyou're not numbing it anymore, so you're
just getting it all in, soI'm getting the pure pure, and I

(58:15):
mean like yeah, like I definitelydrank a few times, like probably had
four drinks that event and I hadtwo. You had to that's pre game,
like including pre game or after that'sa at the concert. At the
concert, I could say about Ihad like five six including pre game.
Oh you're doing like secret drinks atyour place, and then then you drank

(58:37):
like a couple that I didn't drink. I was like, now I'm done.
I'm gonna get water. Right,I'd say about four max four two
at one, which is an equivalentof two at the at the motel,
and then about two at the venue. Because it's expensive, I'm not gonna
spend anymore than what I can get, you know. And the beauty,
I did a number of my stomachlike not only have my dick got the

(59:04):
double dose, got the double dbe Aria. So yeah, I ended
up investing in Barria that night.That was That was a good Beadia beaut
man. It was good after this. But yeah, so yeah, we
took off. I left my card, Loui's ass Louly went home. I
drove myself home and got home.You know, watched the Little snl buckwheet

(59:30):
assassination on YouTube and went to bed, and I guess I can tell you
what I did. I I showered, and I walked around nude in my
place. We missed out on thislily and with and in the morning,
all the gothic chicks with their bootyshorts came out of all the room.
I was like, oh my god. And then I went to go get

(59:53):
some coffee and then I smoked acigar and just was chilling. And on
my way home, you know,I stopped that the motorcycle shop got a
brand new helmet that well, itwas a helmet that I ordered. They
had a special order. It's likea VR racing series. It's fucking dope.
It's like a three hundred dollars helmet. It's fucking badass. But they
had to ship it. And thenI said, hey, ship the Santa

(01:00:13):
Fe Springs. And then like I'vebeen blowing them off for like two weeks,
like hey we have your helmet.Hey we have your helmet. I'm
like, fuck, all right,So finally committed to it. But you
didn't really want to get it,No, I just it was paid.
I just it was work, andthen electricians. I just kept blowing them
off. Everybody. Yeah, I'mlike, just chill, I'll be there,

(01:00:36):
Dad, fucking chill that customer servicefor you. But it is so
I got admitted, you know.So I went down and then had some
Mexican food some uh some No,I had some some eggs. Oh.
I had Mexican style, which isdifferent than than than than proving style.
Actually it's it's wetter, it's differentsweater. And I said, hey,

(01:00:59):
throw fried egg on that, andthey're like, all right, big spinner,
let's do this. So through Fridayand on it was so good.
And I went home and then that'swhen I got the sand all over my
place. It was. It wasamazing though, but as well, I
was tired. Lose. The onlywho said, oh, next day,
he's great. Me. It tooka couple of days. I mean,

(01:01:19):
I think the shower and then they'renot drinking so much. I drink a
lot of water at that place.That's why I was peeking so much,
that's true. And then after myafter also, my my food of choice
was a chili cheeseburger. That thingwas amazing. Oh how was that?
It was awesome? From place?Yeah, we had. The cheese was

(01:01:40):
amazing, Yeah it was. Itwas dope, dude. I threw some
coin on that ship. It waslike seventy bucks, bro, for all
three of us to eat. Bo. Wait, can't be that much.
I was the size of us ofa large baby be like a twenty dollars
cheese seake. No, yours isdefinitely yours is definitely twenty bucks. Well,

(01:02:05):
happy version of me that well happybirthday. Did know I it's here
nor there? But I was like, no, fuck it, bro,
my boys want to eat. That'sfucking like a small child worth of meat
in that thing. No, butit was, Yeah, it was seventy
another ginger ale. It was reallygood. Okay, okay, there in
tribute of that wonderful cheese. Butno, the seventy dollars you said,
the seventy dollars cheese steak, noproblem. It was the fucking hundred dollars

(01:02:30):
four mile uber That fucking was wasa bit. But hey, you know
what when I actually saw a PacificCoast Highway and how far it was that,
I was like, oh yeah,there were screwed, bro. The
drive was pretty far, it was. We would have walked on those bridges.
We got hit by cars. Wewould have. Yeah, we got
hit by some drunk people coming fromthe festival. Oh yeah, dude,

(01:02:50):
when I noticed, and he's like, nah, you guys are crazy.
You guys could never It was short, but it was long enough. We're
like, fuck, this is long. So yeah, that was Scarcer Waze
Festival twenty twenty three. We'll seewhat happens in twenty twenty four. Dmv
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