October 21, 2022 • 28 mins
I was joined by Myesha who’s a life coach and fellow Mental Health advocate.
Myesha spoke to me about the importance of finding confidence within yourself and finding yourself in the midst of adversity.
Myesha spoke to me about some of her own experiences and gave some top tips to others who maybe going through the same.
Myesha spoke about the impact talking about her own mental health has had benefits for her own well-being.
You lot will love this one :)
Myesha spoke to me about the importance of finding confidence within yourself and finding yourself in the midst of adversity.
Myesha spoke to me about some of her own experiences and gave some top tips to others who maybe going through the same.
Myesha spoke about the impact talking about her own mental health has had benefits for her own well-being.
You lot will love this one :)
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Yeah, So as we're saying, like the childhood, the childhood trauma,
it can happen. It can happen from a young age.
Like there's children can experience so many things that the
little brains can't comphense. Sometimes there's a lot of emotion
for a child as well, which can then and a
(00:23):
trauma can transcend into adulthood and and it can fet
them for a period of time, probably for the rest
of their lives. And therapy life coaching it does help,
although it may not completely cure it. But however it
does help because you have that outlet.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yes, and from experience I can.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I'm a witness that therapy helps when it comes to trauma,
especially childhood trauma, because in my opinion, I feel a
lot of a lot of the trauma is suppressed and
when the trauma is suppressed, it it's like a wall
(01:13):
block and everything. And once my individual received life coaching therapy,
it helps to tear down the wall slowly so the
person can heal I think clearly, and move forward.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
When they're ready.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Oh yeah, definitely. And that's it's about that I suppose
about that guided process, isn't it when it comes to
moving forward, going at your own pace and at the
end of the day, you are running your own race
and life. You know, there's you don't have to bide
to societal expectations that you have to achieve this and
that by a certain age, because we're so draw onto
(02:00):
that if we don't achieve it by certain age, we're
failures in life. Like why do you think that? So
my question to you is like, why do you think
people have that mindset that if they don't achieve something
by certain age they're failure.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Well, in my opinion, that ties into the trauma, and
most of the time when trauma is connected, there are
little small components like low self esteem, codependency, people pleasing
(02:42):
because once the trauma is is like a black cloud
over the person where.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
They're shielded by the black cloud where.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
They they're they're exhibiting these components like codependency, low self.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Esteem, and once the healing comes.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Apart with with with therapy, life coaching, they gained a
person can gain their independence back their confidence, like for
one example, with childhood trauma.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
If a person grew up in childhood.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Trauma and their parents or what have you, a person
in their life just always talked down to them and
expressed to them that they'll never amount to anything.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
That child to start thinking.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
That that will be their new mindset, and then when
they become an adult they feel like, well, uh, the
person that that loved me expressed to me that I
couldn't get it right, so I don't think I can
ever get it right.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I'm gonna just do what was expected of me.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, And that's the traditional way of thinking, instead of
their parent or the overseer approaching them saying, well, you
didn't get it right this time, but this time I
want to sit down and show you how to do
it the right way, because you are worthy.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You do. You got this.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
But in terms with childhood trauma, the overseer.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Or the parent or what have you approached.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
The situation incorrectly, because, in my opinion, healing for trauma
is learning how to approach others appropriately, like thinking before
you speak and approach because the field approaches everything, so
(04:51):
it won't be any misunderstanding or tearing down one self
esteem or what have you.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, for sure, And and I again what you've said,
you've hit the No. Al one head when it comes
to children, in particular, the way they're brought up and
not every not every parent is every parent is going
to bring a child up in the best way that
they can. There's going to be some that are going
(05:21):
to talk down to them. There's gonna be some that
are sadly abusive. There's been loads of cases of child
abust which is just absolutely shocking, and that can there
and the sad part is it can lead to death
and like and the childhood trauma that they experience which
transcends into adulthood and they might, I guess, like repeat
(05:42):
those bad habits. It's like a it's like a cycle,
and there's got to be and there's got to be
someone and and there's people out there that will be
determined to break like the generation of like trauma or
generational cycle that's like happened because for example, there might
be a parent talk down to the child because their
(06:04):
parents talk down on them, and therefore they think that's
the way that they've got a parent in their child.
And actually children need like unconditional love, care, tenderness, and
so many other things in order to thrive and grow
up and be great people.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yes, And what I found that.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Most individuals that seek out therapy and life coaching, they
are the ones. They're the the do I call them
the deal breakers? Yeah, because when it comes to deal breakers,
you you it's a brave person that's ready to make
the change in their lives.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Because, in my opinion, a lot of a lot of.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
People don't believe even life coaching and therapy. They say, well,
it's a waste of time. In reality, it's beneficial, in
my opinion, is healthy.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It helps a person grow. It's like a.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Human garbage disposal is what your life coaching and therapy
is because it's a way to release and once certain
emotions are.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Released, it creates.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
A space to bring in new ideas, new emotions, new
thought processes. Once a person learn how to navigate that
and once they decide to change their mindset, yeah ready,
because everything is a process.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah yeah, everything's process can be more spots on and
I think I think as well, I'm one of the
probably one of the biggest advocates out there for life
European life coaching because it's so beneficial. I've had therapists
and counselors on here before. I had your good friend
Angela on that and what she does is truly amazing
(08:11):
and exemption and obviously we both appeared on the Mental
Health Awakening as well, which again was good because because
you were sort of able to talk about like whatever
you wanted to talk about really in regards to mental
health or anything like that. And it was kind of
(08:34):
good for me as well because I talked about the
stuff that I experienced and how that affected me, and
you did as well, and there was just a really
good listen.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yes, yeah, I spoke about anxiety, how anxiety does not
define me because in twenty sixteen I was diagnosed with
anxiety and that was a transition in my life and
(09:06):
I'm an overcomer. It does not define me. It's about
the mindset and thriving and moving towards defeating the situations
without looking back.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
And it's about being you on purpose.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
And I feel when someone decides to be themselves on purpose,
they become their authentic selves and that look that looks different.
No one can be identical. And that's why I believe
in encouraging others to be themselves on purpose.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, and I think as well, there's a lot of
people in anxiety that suppress like who they truly are,
and they put on a mask for other people that
they have to almost change personality to suit like a
friend group or whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
If you're not.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Unapologetically yourself, then what is what is the point? What's
the point of faking it just for someone else's entertainment
or amusement. Like if you're not, if you're not yourself,
you're just going to bottle things up and you're gonna
and you're going to end up being in like a
(10:34):
cycle of constantly having to mask, and masking is exhausting.
It's so exhausting and you just get so overwhelmed by
it that you just don't know how to functions some days.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
It may compare to being in prison. I've never been
to prison, but I feel when you're not your authentic
self and use for us and try to be someone else,
that's like putting yourself in prison.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, yeah, it is. And it is like putting yourself
in prison because you're trapped in You're trapped in somewhere
that you don't really want to be, but you have to.
But you almost feel like you have to change who
you are, just like I say, for someone's amusement, amusement
(11:29):
and entertainment, and otherwise, if you even might give a
hint of your true self to perhaps other people like
your friend group, for example, then then they're not good friends.
If you can't be yourself around your friends and your
and your family, then you've got then you've got to
(11:52):
find a way to be able to be unapologetically your self.
Embrace who you are, and embrace your quirks and embrace
embrace your weirdness. It's something that I do stick by,
like everyone everyone's a bit weird. Yeah, there's there's no dispute.
(12:13):
There's absolutely no dispute in that everyone has a bit
awareness about them and it makes a wealth so great.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yes, But then in my opinion, like.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
We're talking about being your authentic self, I feel like
some individuals are afraid to come at that shield because
they they're afraid of the unknown, afraid of if they'll
lose the world around them, afraid of being judged. So
(12:49):
in my opinion, it takes a brave person to embrace
their authentic self and when they walk into that rim
of not worrying about and not fearing what's going to happen,
what they're going to lose Because sometimes I feel when
(13:10):
a person become their authentic self, they may lose friendships.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
They may lose.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
A lot of things, but in terms they might gain
benefit from some gains, but I do know that it's
usually there's usually losses when a person becomes their authentic self.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, that definitely is I mean, like you say, if
you if you are your authentic self, like there's obviously
going to be losses with that, such as friendships. And
that's when you realize who your friends are, who your
people are you get on with really well, and if
they and if they're your people, that you can be
(13:57):
yourself around and that's upssolutely great. You know, I've there's
been times in my life where I've felt I had
to suppress who I truly am and suppress myself for
other people. And I'm learning now that and why why
should I have to suppress myself for other people? Like,
(14:19):
you know, if they if if you're liked by everyone,
then if you're liked by everyone, and it's it's you're
kind of trying to be a people pleaser, I think
in my opinion anyway, because there's there's there's gonna be
there's going to be people that dislike you, There's going
(14:41):
to be people that like you, and that's and that's
a part of life. There's wherever you go, there's always
going to be someone that you might not get on with.
And and that's absolutely fine.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yes, I agree, I.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Think we and I think we do. I think a
society today we do a lot of trying to please
other people because we're like, we're afraid of the unknown.
And we've said this throughout the episode. A lot of
people can be afraid of the unknown, afraid to be
themselves and because perhaps of what they experienced, like like
(15:23):
going back to childhood trauma. A lot of people have
experienced that, you know, and I'm sure and when they do,
and when they have experienced that, it's it's an absolutely
terrible feeling because they they single handedly just sometimes it
can just transcend into so many things.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yes, and it can affect relationships, like what I've learned
to like some individuals who have endured childhood trauma, and
if they don't resolve the issues stemming from that from
their past, and just say, if the individual decide to
(16:09):
get married or raise of family, it trickles into their
present life and then it's this is not fair to
the mate that the husband or wife or the whole
family dynamic.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
So I feel that it's important.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I encourage others that if they if they have experienced
childhood trauma or some type of trauma.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
To.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Address those issues so they can grow. So when a
person get connected into a relationship, that is not carried
over into the relationship, so it can be a healthy,
healthy relationships built among the family. Says them, are the
marriage or the relationship within itself?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, I like and yeah, you hit them now there,
And I think as well, like you say, people they
do need to navigate their trauma. Like you say, if
they want to start a family or want to start
a family, get married, then they've got to find a
way to be able to work through that because it
(17:28):
would then come from generational trauma, generational cycle that they
could like inflict the trauma that they experience onto their
family and then those kids will then experience that trauma
and it would just be a continuous loop.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
It would be like I hate this word, but it'll
be like a cancer.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah, we're just bread and keep going on and cycling.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Like your vicious cycle.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yeah, and yeah it's you. You said a lot of
you said a lot of good things throughout the throughout
the episode on childhood trauma. And I'm also just talking
about mental health in general. So I've asked this question
a lot of guests, Really, do you do you think
(18:27):
that the conversation around mental health can improve?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yes, I feel that it can because if if.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
There's support of advocates such as myself, you, the mental
Health Awakening, the Jackson Impact, Yeah, and the community that
that that we're building, if we continue to work together
in collaboration and be the voice for the individuals who
(19:06):
have a voice but haven't spoken up yet, and for
the individuals who are still suppressing their feelings, and for
the individuals who aren't ready to really come out and
express their personal experience that they have been through, and
(19:32):
if we continue to abdicate, encourage, uplift, inspire. I feel
that as we continue to create this community that's already created,
but continue to work towards, you know, continue doing the podcast,
(19:57):
sharing our personal life experience speriences to help others, I
feel like a lot of people in this community who's
hiding behind the scenes that want to overcome and.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Share their stories will.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Feel comfortable about stepping forward to share because we're sharing
our stories as individuals who are going through different things
and letting the world know that we're not only professionals,
but we're human as well.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, and we are building a really good community in
regards to mental health, and I think that will only expand.
I think as well when you go on to like
podcasts and stuff like that. I think people when they
listen see like a different side to you, like in
how you speak and how you see things like I know,
(20:58):
I've been on a few podcasts self talking about a
variety of different things to do with my life and
my mental health experiences. And I think for people that
I know, it gives them a different side to me
that perhaps I don't talk about as often as I should.
(21:18):
And it's about being able to collaborate, like you say,
and build that community and come together with mental health
and to be able to improve the conversation encourage individuals
like you say that for those who don't have a voice,
you do speak up and do be a voice because
(21:42):
you know you might, because you never know you might
end up being another person's voice they listen to.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yes, I agree. In the ena, some individuals aren't ready
to walk in the realm of vulnerability mm hmm. Because once.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
A person open.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Up and tell their story, you have to be ready
for whatever is going to come your way because it's
tied into vulnerability, and some individuals aren't ready to share
certain part of their lives right away.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, I think it's a process because for me personally,
I never thought I would be sharing my life with
the world, but I chose to be vulnerable, and.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
It's a part of a healing process.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
It's a part of overcoming and it's it's growth.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah. I think as well, with sharing your vulnerability to
the world, it can be it's such a brave thing
to do. It takes real courage because on the Internet
as well as I don't know how many or however
many people that are listening to this. Sharing your vulnerability
(23:16):
to the world is such a courageous thing and something
that should be implored in regards to mental health. And
and there's something that that when people are ready to
perhaps share their stories in the future, even if it's
just a little bit of their life story, that's something
(23:39):
that we should make them feel comfortable enough to do.
And there's something that in time we should encourage that
that we should encourage.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yes, And one person that.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I admire, she's a celebrity mm hmm, it's all Oprah Winfrey.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Oh, yes, Yes, she's a great example of what we're
talking about when it comes to vulnerability because she's been
through many.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Obstacles throughout her childhood. She endured childhood trauma, she overcame,
she's a multi.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Million billionaire now.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Yeah, And if a person didn't know her story, they
wouldn't know different. But she's a great example of perseverance and.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Just a great overcomer.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
And she didn't allow her past childhood traumas and circumstances
to overtake her. And she's a good example.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, And there's a lot and there's a lot of
great people out there's well, that have gone from like
rags to riches and they've experienced and perhaps childed trouma
themselves and they've become these amazing people like Oprah Winfrey
is like interviewed like top top like celebrities like throughout
(25:19):
the years. Really, so the way that she's progressed and
continue to evolve is nothing short of like tremendous and
I have huge admiration for her for it. Yes, Yeah,
(25:39):
So we've taught quite a bit throughout this episode, So
there might be someone out there that might be having
a hard time in her life with mental health issues
and just general life problems. What would be your message
to those people.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
My message to.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
A person who's having a hard time going through a
rough patching their life regarding mental health, my words of
encouragement and inspiration will be don't give up. You may
feel like things are not going as planned right now,
(26:29):
but just think of a storm, and in my opinions,
storms don't last.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Always.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Once a storm blows over, there's always a ray of
sunshine that all brighten your day and that will give
you hope, encouragement, and faith.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
So don't give up.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Connect with a support system.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
If you're not sure.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Of where to start, or don't know where to start,
you can reach out to your local mental health authority,
social workers, case managers, life coaches. Depending on what your
(27:27):
faith is different faith, you can reach out to your pastors,
someone you can trust.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And seek guidance.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, that's a really good message that you've been absolutely
fantastic in this episode, so really quickly, Where can people
find you on social media?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I can be found on Instagram My Sunshine nineteen twenty two, okay,
and I can be fined on found on Facebook Myisha Thurman,
and I have my website will be is in process
and be launching soon. And once my website is created,
(28:18):
I can be reached at be You on Purpose Life
Coaching Services l LC.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
I also can be reached through.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Mental Health Awakening and the Jackson Impact.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Channels.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah. Definitely a lot of a lot of good outlets there.
I just want to say thank you for taking the
time to come onto the podcast today, thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
For having me. It's been a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah. Absolutely, And anyways, thank you for listening guys. Goodbye,
Yeah, So as we're saying, like the childhood, the childhood trauma,
it can happen. It can happen from a young age.
Like there's children can experience so many things that the
little brains can't comphense. Sometimes there's a lot of emotion
for a child as well, which can then and a
(00:23):
trauma can transcend into adulthood and and it can fet
them for a period of time, probably for the rest
of their lives. And therapy life coaching it does help,
although it may not completely cure it. But however it
does help because you have that outlet.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Yes, and from experience I can.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
I'm a witness that therapy helps when it comes to trauma,
especially childhood trauma, because in my opinion, I feel a
lot of a lot of the trauma is suppressed and
when the trauma is suppressed, it it's like a wall
(01:13):
block and everything. And once my individual received life coaching therapy,
it helps to tear down the wall slowly so the
person can heal I think clearly, and move forward.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
When they're ready.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
Oh yeah, definitely. And that's it's about that I suppose
about that guided process, isn't it when it comes to
moving forward, going at your own pace and at the
end of the day, you are running your own race
and life. You know, there's you don't have to bide
to societal expectations that you have to achieve this and
that by a certain age, because we're so draw onto
(02:00):
that if we don't achieve it by certain age, we're
failures in life. Like why do you think that? So
my question to you is like, why do you think
people have that mindset that if they don't achieve something
by certain age they're failure.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Well, in my opinion, that ties into the trauma, and
most of the time when trauma is connected, there are
little small components like low self esteem, codependency, people pleasing
(02:42):
because once the trauma is is like a black cloud
over the person where.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
They're shielded by the black cloud where.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
They they're they're exhibiting these components like codependency, low self.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
Esteem, and once the healing comes.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Apart with with with therapy, life coaching, they gained a
person can gain their independence back their confidence, like for
one example, with childhood trauma.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
If a person grew up in childhood.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Trauma and their parents or what have you, a person
in their life just always talked down to them and
expressed to them that they'll never amount to anything.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
That child to start thinking.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
That that will be their new mindset, and then when
they become an adult they feel like, well, uh, the
person that that loved me expressed to me that I
couldn't get it right, so I don't think I can
ever get it right.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
I'm gonna just do what was expected of me.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
Yeah, And that's the traditional way of thinking, instead of
their parent or the overseer approaching them saying, well, you
didn't get it right this time, but this time I
want to sit down and show you how to do
it the right way, because you are worthy.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
You do. You got this.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
But in terms with childhood trauma, the overseer.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Or the parent or what have you approached.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
The situation incorrectly, because, in my opinion, healing for trauma
is learning how to approach others appropriately, like thinking before
you speak and approach because the field approaches everything, so
(04:51):
it won't be any misunderstanding or tearing down one self
esteem or what have you.
Speaker 1 (05:00):
Yeah, for sure, And and I again what you've said,
you've hit the No. Al one head when it comes
to children, in particular, the way they're brought up and
not every not every parent is every parent is going
to bring a child up in the best way that
they can. There's going to be some that are going
(05:21):
to talk down to them. There's gonna be some that
are sadly abusive. There's been loads of cases of child
abust which is just absolutely shocking, and that can there
and the sad part is it can lead to death
and like and the childhood trauma that they experience which
transcends into adulthood and they might, I guess, like repeat
(05:42):
those bad habits. It's like a it's like a cycle,
and there's got to be and there's got to be
someone and and there's people out there that will be
determined to break like the generation of like trauma or
generational cycle that's like happened because for example, there might
be a parent talk down to the child because their
(06:04):
parents talk down on them, and therefore they think that's
the way that they've got a parent in their child.
And actually children need like unconditional love, care, tenderness, and
so many other things in order to thrive and grow
up and be great people.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yes, And what I found that.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Most individuals that seek out therapy and life coaching, they
are the ones. They're the the do I call them
the deal breakers? Yeah, because when it comes to deal breakers,
you you it's a brave person that's ready to make
the change in their lives.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Because, in my opinion, a lot of a lot of.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
People don't believe even life coaching and therapy. They say, well,
it's a waste of time. In reality, it's beneficial, in
my opinion, is healthy.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
It helps a person grow. It's like a.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Human garbage disposal is what your life coaching and therapy
is because it's a way to release and once certain
emotions are.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Released, it creates.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
A space to bring in new ideas, new emotions, new
thought processes. Once a person learn how to navigate that
and once they decide to change their mindset, yeah ready,
because everything is a process.
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Yeah yeah, everything's process can be more spots on and
I think I think as well, I'm one of the
probably one of the biggest advocates out there for life
European life coaching because it's so beneficial. I've had therapists
and counselors on here before. I had your good friend
Angela on that and what she does is truly amazing
(08:11):
and exemption and obviously we both appeared on the Mental
Health Awakening as well, which again was good because because
you were sort of able to talk about like whatever
you wanted to talk about really in regards to mental
health or anything like that. And it was kind of
(08:34):
good for me as well because I talked about the
stuff that I experienced and how that affected me, and
you did as well, and there was just a really
good listen.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
Yes, yeah, I spoke about anxiety, how anxiety does not
define me because in twenty sixteen I was diagnosed with
anxiety and that was a transition in my life and
(09:06):
I'm an overcomer. It does not define me. It's about
the mindset and thriving and moving towards defeating the situations
without looking back.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
And it's about being you on purpose.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
And I feel when someone decides to be themselves on purpose,
they become their authentic selves and that look that looks different.
No one can be identical. And that's why I believe
in encouraging others to be themselves on purpose.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Yeah, and I think as well, there's a lot of
people in anxiety that suppress like who they truly are,
and they put on a mask for other people that
they have to almost change personality to suit like a
friend group or whatever.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
If you're not.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Unapologetically yourself, then what is what is the point? What's
the point of faking it just for someone else's entertainment
or amusement. Like if you're not, if you're not yourself,
you're just going to bottle things up and you're gonna
and you're going to end up being in like a
(10:34):
cycle of constantly having to mask, and masking is exhausting.
It's so exhausting and you just get so overwhelmed by
it that you just don't know how to functions some days.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
It may compare to being in prison. I've never been
to prison, but I feel when you're not your authentic
self and use for us and try to be someone else,
that's like putting yourself in prison.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, yeah, it is. And it is like putting yourself
in prison because you're trapped in You're trapped in somewhere
that you don't really want to be, but you have to.
But you almost feel like you have to change who
you are, just like I say, for someone's amusement, amusement
(11:29):
and entertainment, and otherwise, if you even might give a
hint of your true self to perhaps other people like
your friend group, for example, then then they're not good friends.
If you can't be yourself around your friends and your
and your family, then you've got then you've got to
(11:52):
find a way to be able to be unapologetically your self.
Embrace who you are, and embrace your quirks and embrace
embrace your weirdness. It's something that I do stick by,
like everyone everyone's a bit weird. Yeah, there's there's no dispute.
(12:13):
There's absolutely no dispute in that everyone has a bit
awareness about them and it makes a wealth so great.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Yes, But then in my opinion, like.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
We're talking about being your authentic self, I feel like
some individuals are afraid to come at that shield because
they they're afraid of the unknown, afraid of if they'll
lose the world around them, afraid of being judged. So
(12:49):
in my opinion, it takes a brave person to embrace
their authentic self and when they walk into that rim
of not worrying about and not fearing what's going to happen,
what they're going to lose Because sometimes I feel when
(13:10):
a person become their authentic self, they may lose friendships.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
They may lose.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
A lot of things, but in terms they might gain
benefit from some gains, but I do know that it's
usually there's usually losses when a person becomes their authentic self.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Yeah, that definitely is I mean, like you say, if
you if you are your authentic self, like there's obviously
going to be losses with that, such as friendships. And
that's when you realize who your friends are, who your
people are you get on with really well, and if
they and if they're your people, that you can be
(13:57):
yourself around and that's upssolutely great. You know, I've there's
been times in my life where I've felt I had
to suppress who I truly am and suppress myself for
other people. And I'm learning now that and why why
should I have to suppress myself for other people? Like,
(14:19):
you know, if they if if you're liked by everyone,
then if you're liked by everyone, and it's it's you're
kind of trying to be a people pleaser, I think
in my opinion anyway, because there's there's there's gonna be
there's going to be people that dislike you, There's going
(14:41):
to be people that like you, and that's and that's
a part of life. There's wherever you go, there's always
going to be someone that you might not get on with.
And and that's absolutely fine.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yes, I agree, I.
Speaker 1 (14:59):
Think we and I think we do. I think a
society today we do a lot of trying to please
other people because we're like, we're afraid of the unknown.
And we've said this throughout the episode. A lot of
people can be afraid of the unknown, afraid to be
themselves and because perhaps of what they experienced, like like
(15:23):
going back to childhood trauma. A lot of people have
experienced that, you know, and I'm sure and when they do,
and when they have experienced that, it's it's an absolutely
terrible feeling because they they single handedly just sometimes it
can just transcend into so many things.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Yes, and it can affect relationships, like what I've learned
to like some individuals who have endured childhood trauma, and
if they don't resolve the issues stemming from that from
their past, and just say, if the individual decide to
(16:09):
get married or raise of family, it trickles into their
present life and then it's this is not fair to
the mate that the husband or wife or the whole
family dynamic.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
So I feel that it's important.
Speaker 3 (16:30):
I encourage others that if they if they have experienced
childhood trauma or some type of trauma.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
To.
Speaker 3 (16:41):
Address those issues so they can grow. So when a
person get connected into a relationship, that is not carried
over into the relationship, so it can be a healthy,
healthy relationships built among the family. Says them, are the
marriage or the relationship within itself?
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Yeah, I like and yeah, you hit them now there,
And I think as well, like you say, people they
do need to navigate their trauma. Like you say, if
they want to start a family or want to start
a family, get married, then they've got to find a
way to be able to work through that because it
(17:28):
would then come from generational trauma, generational cycle that they
could like inflict the trauma that they experience onto their
family and then those kids will then experience that trauma
and it would just be a continuous loop.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
It would be like I hate this word, but it'll
be like a cancer.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah, we're just bread and keep going on and cycling.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Like your vicious cycle.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Yeah, and yeah it's you. You said a lot of
you said a lot of good things throughout the throughout
the episode on childhood trauma. And I'm also just talking
about mental health in general. So I've asked this question
a lot of guests, Really, do you do you think
(18:27):
that the conversation around mental health can improve?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Yes, I feel that it can because if if.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
There's support of advocates such as myself, you, the mental
Health Awakening, the Jackson Impact, Yeah, and the community that
that that we're building, if we continue to work together
in collaboration and be the voice for the individuals who
(19:06):
have a voice but haven't spoken up yet, and for
the individuals who are still suppressing their feelings, and for
the individuals who aren't ready to really come out and
express their personal experience that they have been through, and
(19:32):
if we continue to abdicate, encourage, uplift, inspire. I feel
that as we continue to create this community that's already created,
but continue to work towards, you know, continue doing the podcast,
(19:57):
sharing our personal life experience speriences to help others, I
feel like a lot of people in this community who's
hiding behind the scenes that want to overcome and.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Share their stories will.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Feel comfortable about stepping forward to share because we're sharing
our stories as individuals who are going through different things
and letting the world know that we're not only professionals,
but we're human as well.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
Yeah, and we are building a really good community in
regards to mental health, and I think that will only expand.
I think as well when you go on to like
podcasts and stuff like that. I think people when they
listen see like a different side to you, like in
how you speak and how you see things like I know,
(20:58):
I've been on a few podcasts self talking about a
variety of different things to do with my life and
my mental health experiences. And I think for people that
I know, it gives them a different side to me
that perhaps I don't talk about as often as I should.
(21:18):
And it's about being able to collaborate, like you say,
and build that community and come together with mental health
and to be able to improve the conversation encourage individuals
like you say that for those who don't have a voice,
you do speak up and do be a voice because
(21:42):
you know you might, because you never know you might
end up being another person's voice they listen to.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yes, I agree. In the ena, some individuals aren't ready
to walk in the realm of vulnerability mm hmm. Because once.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
A person open.
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Up and tell their story, you have to be ready
for whatever is going to come your way because it's
tied into vulnerability, and some individuals aren't ready to share
certain part of their lives right away.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
Yeah, I think it's a process because for me personally,
I never thought I would be sharing my life with
the world, but I chose to be vulnerable, and.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
It's a part of a healing process.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
It's a part of overcoming and it's it's growth.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Yeah. I think as well, with sharing your vulnerability to
the world, it can be it's such a brave thing
to do. It takes real courage because on the Internet
as well as I don't know how many or however
many people that are listening to this. Sharing your vulnerability
(23:16):
to the world is such a courageous thing and something
that should be implored in regards to mental health. And
and there's something that that when people are ready to
perhaps share their stories in the future, even if it's
just a little bit of their life story, that's something
(23:39):
that we should make them feel comfortable enough to do.
And there's something that in time we should encourage that
that we should encourage.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Yes, And one person that.
Speaker 3 (23:55):
I admire, she's a celebrity mm hmm, it's all Oprah Winfrey.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Oh, yes, Yes, she's a great example of what we're
talking about when it comes to vulnerability because she's been
through many.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Obstacles throughout her childhood. She endured childhood trauma, she overcame,
she's a multi.
Speaker 2 (24:24):
Million billionaire now.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
Yeah, And if a person didn't know her story, they
wouldn't know different. But she's a great example of perseverance and.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Just a great overcomer.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
And she didn't allow her past childhood traumas and circumstances
to overtake her. And she's a good example.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Yeah, And there's a lot and there's a lot of
great people out there's well, that have gone from like
rags to riches and they've experienced and perhaps childed trouma
themselves and they've become these amazing people like Oprah Winfrey
is like interviewed like top top like celebrities like throughout
(25:19):
the years. Really, so the way that she's progressed and
continue to evolve is nothing short of like tremendous and
I have huge admiration for her for it. Yes, Yeah,
(25:39):
So we've taught quite a bit throughout this episode, So
there might be someone out there that might be having
a hard time in her life with mental health issues
and just general life problems. What would be your message
to those people.
Speaker 2 (26:00):
My message to.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
A person who's having a hard time going through a
rough patching their life regarding mental health, my words of
encouragement and inspiration will be don't give up. You may
feel like things are not going as planned right now,
(26:29):
but just think of a storm, and in my opinions,
storms don't last.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Always.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
Once a storm blows over, there's always a ray of
sunshine that all brighten your day and that will give
you hope, encouragement, and faith.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
So don't give up.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
Connect with a support system.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
If you're not sure.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Of where to start, or don't know where to start,
you can reach out to your local mental health authority,
social workers, case managers, life coaches. Depending on what your
(27:27):
faith is different faith, you can reach out to your pastors,
someone you can trust.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
And seek guidance.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, that's a really good message that you've been absolutely
fantastic in this episode, so really quickly, Where can people
find you on social media?
Speaker 3 (27:52):
I can be found on Instagram My Sunshine nineteen twenty two, okay,
and I can be fined on found on Facebook Myisha Thurman,
and I have my website will be is in process
and be launching soon. And once my website is created,
(28:18):
I can be reached at be You on Purpose Life
Coaching Services l LC.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
I also can be reached through.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Mental Health Awakening and the Jackson Impact.
Speaker 2 (28:36):
Channels.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yeah. Definitely a lot of a lot of good outlets there.
I just want to say thank you for taking the
time to come onto the podcast today, thank you.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
For having me. It's been a pleasure.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah. Absolutely, And anyways, thank you for listening guys. Goodbye,
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