July 10, 2024 • 32 mins
What will we say next?? We are back from a little break and diving headfirst into some MAJOR Dallas gossip! 🌟 Join us for Episode 339 of the Too Posh Podcast, where we welcome back one of our favorite gossip girls, Berkley.
✨ Remember the explosive episodes 286, 287, and 288, where Marcella and Berkley exposed the cheating scandal? 💥 Well, we are recapping that wild ride and then diving into Berkley's latest jaw-dropping tale: dating her ex-boyfriend's new wife's ex-husband! 😱 Instant chemistry led to a year-long romance, and we've got ALL the details. 💔
🔥 Cruz and Berkley clash over whether her relationship was genuine or a revenge move.
Marcella starts dishing on a recent run-in that took things to a whole new level. At Pete’s Piano Bar 🎹, an unexpected confrontation with her ex's new wife and her crew turned into a scene straight out of a reality show—complete with a dedication of CeeLo Green’s "F*** You." 🎤🙈
💥 Marcella was just there for her best friend Nicole’s birthday party when she gets confronted in the restroom! Imagine the shock when a stranger excitedly yells "TOO POSH PODCAST?" only to turn out to be her ex’s new wife's friends including the new wife. The awkward encounter escalates with some backhanded compliments and the ultimate diss track dedication. 🎶😳
Tune in to hear how Marcella and Berkley navigate this twisted web of relationships and revenge. You won't believe what happens next! 😂 Stay tuned for Part 2, where the plot thickens and more secrets are spilled. This is the show everyone's been waiting for! 🎧🍿
Don't miss out on the drama! #TooPoshPodcast #DallasGossip #JuicyDrama #PodcastLife #TuneIn #SpillingTheTea
✨ Remember the explosive episodes 286, 287, and 288, where Marcella and Berkley exposed the cheating scandal? 💥 Well, we are recapping that wild ride and then diving into Berkley's latest jaw-dropping tale: dating her ex-boyfriend's new wife's ex-husband! 😱 Instant chemistry led to a year-long romance, and we've got ALL the details. 💔
🔥 Cruz and Berkley clash over whether her relationship was genuine or a revenge move.
Marcella starts dishing on a recent run-in that took things to a whole new level. At Pete’s Piano Bar 🎹, an unexpected confrontation with her ex's new wife and her crew turned into a scene straight out of a reality show—complete with a dedication of CeeLo Green’s "F*** You." 🎤🙈
💥 Marcella was just there for her best friend Nicole’s birthday party when she gets confronted in the restroom! Imagine the shock when a stranger excitedly yells "TOO POSH PODCAST?" only to turn out to be her ex’s new wife's friends including the new wife. The awkward encounter escalates with some backhanded compliments and the ultimate diss track dedication. 🎶😳
Tune in to hear how Marcella and Berkley navigate this twisted web of relationships and revenge. You won't believe what happens next! 😂 Stay tuned for Part 2, where the plot thickens and more secrets are spilled. This is the show everyone's been waiting for! 🎧🍿
Don't miss out on the drama! #TooPoshPodcast #DallasGossip #JuicyDrama #PodcastLife #TuneIn #SpillingTheTea
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(00:00):
Welcome to the Tupash Podcast. Iam Gabrielle. I'm a former New York
Mafia princess originally from Austria. Iam the mother of three and the owner
of Tupash Boutique and here with mybeautiful cost Marsella, my daughter. Hello,
I'm Marcella. I'm a dancer,choreographer, model and designer for Tupash
(00:23):
and I say whatever I want.My name is Cruz. I am a
stylist. I also own the SocietySalon in the Design District. And I
am a short, little Mexican witha big personality. What will they say
next? Welcome to the Tupash Podcast. What will we say next? What
(00:56):
we don't know? So we don'tknow? Hello, wonderful listeners. I'm
here with Marsellam, Cui and Cruiseand with one of our gossip girls,
one of our favorites. Some doowsBerkeley, She's back, Yeah, same
back. They are the crazier theyare, I think when some people know
(01:22):
she's on the get nervous. Probablyso. Berkeley has been on several shows
on the tupasch podcast, but themost interesting and most important ones were episode
to eighty six to eighty seven andto eighty eight. That is when Berkeley
came on to discuss all things aboutsomeone an ex of Masella and Berkeley's together
(01:52):
in the crowds. Yeah, caughtthat must sellas ex at the time was
cheating with Berkeley. Do we needa refresher? Do we need a little
a little refresher, Yes, becausethere's new people that are listening that have
never heard that story and maybe don'twant to hear. Yeah, the whole
(02:15):
thing. Yeah episode, let's second, but yeah, even a few minutes.
Yeah, could do a little version. I was with so this person's
name, I was with this person. Yeah, and we were together for
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a while. I think I thoughtwe were gonna get married. He liked
to put his dick in different people, not just one, but there were
several. And then he was withbeautiful Berkeley and then we became friends after
man has excellent taste. And that'sthe worst when like these terrible guys date
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these beautiful girls, because then itmakes them attractive. So other chans,
Yeah, they're like, why isshe with him? Oh my god,
I need to go figure it out. No, it's terrible, and obviously
I think she was getting told wewere not together. And vice versa or
not. I mean he was tellingme we were together, but pizza girl
(03:20):
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, delivery pizza yeah. So yeah,
we finally talked and then we gotthe whole truth. I got all the
truth in Berkeley and I finally communicatedson that was on the podcast, and
that was on the podcast kind ofaccidentally like some kind of like compared timelines,
(03:44):
and he was seeing me while hewas dating Marcella. I had no
idea she was around, so theywere dating seriously. I was kind of
on the side, and then Marcellabroke up with him, so then I
became the main so that's my turn. But he was probably cheated on me
with a bunch of others as well, so we we kind of shared our
(04:11):
experiences with this person. It waslike honestly healinging, like I feel it
was. Yeah, So it wasn'tlike a ship talking session like it was
like healing for both of us.And we compared timelines and then me and
him broke up, But it washe started the way I was, Yeah,
the way I did it. Y'allneed to listen to those. Yeah,
(04:33):
I actually listened to it recently.It's a pressure. How did you
feel about it? How did youfeel about listening? I mean I honestly
felt a little sad. It's reallysad. Yeah, Like what part sad
that you went through it? No, I just think it like looking back,
(04:56):
like twenty twenty high inside, LikeI just was like so naive when
it happened, right, and nowlike that I'm older and I've had a
chance like healing process, Like youcan just see how big like a predator
and a groomer. This guy isa narcissist and it's sad. Also the
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people who know of him, alot of people say he's so charming and
so because I was like in myexperience, I don't know how she feels,
but I'm like, how the howdid I fall for that again with
somebody like and he really painted himselfto be a stand up person, an
(05:41):
honest person, you know, kindof like a dorky dad. He's not
going to do anything. And thena lot of people are said, you
know, he just is somebody whohas a problem, Like I don't think
he could ever be faithful, Hecould never tell the truth just like that
forever. Yeah, that's interesting.I've done a lot of research. I
(06:01):
think he's for sure. One narcissists. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
I think that I think that termis like thrown around loosely in today's
society, and yeah, yeah,you can have narcissistic tendencies, but actual
(06:23):
narcissism goes way beyond taking a tonof selfies and on social media, Like
there's a small percentage of the populationthat like actually has narcissistic personality disorder and
they're scary and they're dangerous. Well, I think it's interesting that after all
(06:44):
this time, you listen and thereaction is that it made you sad.
Yeah. Yeah, I think itwas just sad because it helps you heal.
Though, does it make you realizelike damn, like I was in
a place where, you know,maybe you were not naive. Yeah.
But at the same time too,it's like, Okay, now I've learned.
This is something that I've learned,I've grown. Yeah, I'm not
(07:09):
gonna let this shit happen anymore.Yeah, I feel like I'm like a
totally different person than I was whenI dated him, and even recording the
podcast, like because yeah, Ithink I did do some crazy shit back
then, but like, come,I was like twenty twenty one twenty two
years old, Like I'm twenty eightnow. I cannot imagine going on a
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date with a twenty year old andlike buying them alcohol, Like that's creepy,
you know, Like I can't imaginemyself in his shoes, like being
forty one, forty two years old, like creeping on some twenty year old
who lives I was a college student, like I lived at home with my
(07:55):
parents, Like I didn't know anyI didn't know any better. That's that's
Jolie's age, his daughters, that'shis daughter's age. So we can get
into it later. But a lotof people I've like, they kind of
make fun of me for some theways that I acted, But I'm like,
(08:18):
I was just so young, Ididn't know any better, and I
was like in an abusive relationship,so well, and abusers are really good
at making you feel like a crazyperson. So yeah, oh yeah,
literally yeah, but yeah, thisperson is one h a narcissist, So
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then I'm scary. I don't rememberexactly how we ended those podcasts from back
then, but then fast forward alittle bit, so then you actually ended
up meeting tell us a little bitabout that part. Do you not have
to give names. Yes, So, okay, so Marcella was dating him,
(09:05):
I mean Marcella is dating our exthey broke up. He started dating
me and then we broke up.And then our ex started dating this new
girl and she divorced her husband forokay, yeah, so now did they
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have any kids? Yeah, theyhave they have a baby together. She
had three with her ex husband.M hmm. And then he has two
kids with two different baby moments.Our ex, yeah, has two children.
And so then so he starts datingthe new girl back three kids.
(09:54):
Yes, they go to get marriedand have a kid, and then then
they have a kid together six andthey got married and they're married. Yes.
And so then turns out I havea mutual friend with the ex husband
of her, the one that sheleft for our ex. So then and
(10:18):
I can I can tell you howwe met, how we like figured out
that we had a mutual friend,because that's kind of funny. But then
we I had we started dating theex husband. So did the old switcheroole?
Yeah, so you're you started datingwhat? I started dating my exes
(10:43):
new parents X. Yeah. Istarted dating my ex divorced they separated.
I started dating my ex's new girl'sex husband. So we like swash.
So so are they are they divorced? So they separated? Yes, there
they were, Oh yeah yeah,because now our ex is now marriage.
(11:05):
So did you do this? Iliterally did. I literally didn't. So
we're like, you guys, cannatdo this. And then I was going
through your mind, clear it out, clear clear it up, let's clear
it up. I think it's goodfor her to do that. Yeah.
(11:26):
Yeah. So after the last podcastcame out, it kind of like spread
like wildfire, Yeah, prosionally throughthe suburb. So this girl, Dana
reached out to me. And Iknow Dana through when I was dating our
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ex. Dana was a longtime friendof our ex for like twenty plus years.
So when I was dating him,I met Dana and we became friends.
But then after I broke up,we never really talked again. Like
I removed him and all of hisfriends on social media, like I kind
of did a sweep. So thenwhen the podcast came out, she reached
(12:11):
out to me and was like,hey, I heard the podcast, Like
that was amazing, Like, I'mso glad you got away from that guy.
I'm not his friend either anymore.Like we had a huge falling out,
and so we kind of like rekindledour friendship. She like the podcast
was hilarious, and so we're goingback and forth and then she's like,
(12:35):
yeah, so he's with this newgirl. Now, like what's her deal?
Blah blah blah. So we're kindof just going back and forth.
And then about a week later,she texts me, Oh, my god,
no way, Berkeley, I knowthe ex husband. I've known this
guy for like a year. AndI'm like, what, no way,
(12:56):
how And she said he lives inmy neighborhood and about a year ago,
me and him we met at thisneighborhood bar and we kind of bonded because
we were both going through a divorce. So you didn't know so she didn't
know. Sorry, what are youas? I didn't know that connection.
(13:20):
They didn't know the connection yet I'mgoing to get there. So they they
bond like they're both going through adivorce, but they didn't share like names
or anything. And the guy wouldbe like, yeah, my my wife
left me for this fat piece ofshit and all this blah blah blah.
So then one day, and keepin mind, Dana has known our ex
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for twenty plus years. So oneday the ex husband slips up. He
finally says his ex wife's name,and so Dana's just being hind a snow.
So she searches the ex wife onFacebook, and to her surprise,
her profile picture is with her inour ex She's like, no fucking way,
(14:11):
this is who your wife left youfor. I've known this guy for
like twenty plus years, Like thisis who you've been talking about this whole
time. I'm like, oh mygod, like that had to be a
yeah, And she's like no,no, Like his two ex girlfriends just
got together and like did a threepart podcast about the whole thing, Like
(14:35):
you got to listen to it.He's like what. And I think it
was more of a warning for himbecause his kids to be around this person,
you know, like you should listento it so you know who your
children are around exactly. So Danasends him the three part podcast and he
listens to the whole thing. Didhe send it to her? Yeah,
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he is to the ex wife,Oh my god. And then it kind
of like spread like wildfire throughout theirlittle neighborhood and North Dallas whatever. And
but then Dane was like, ohmy god, brother like this is this
guy's the nicest guy. Like weall need to like just get together for
(15:18):
drinks, like it'll be fun,you know. And so I'm like,
eh, like that's kind of weird, don't you think awkward? And she's
like, no, he's the nicestguy, Like let's just just do it.
I'm like, okay, whatever,fuck it. So we all get
together for drinks and then me andhim just end up literally hitting it off.
(15:39):
We're start eating. How long didyou guys state? About a year?
Yeah, so that I feel thathappened quick. Now. I remember
when that happened, and I thoughtI was like, oh, she's getting
back. Yeah, at least that'swhat it looks like from that inside.
(16:00):
Looking Yeah, right, I cansee that. I think it does.
But no, like honestly, likewe really connected, like we really clicked.
And the whole time I was like, this is weird, Like and
I don't want to subject to myselfto be in that situation where I'm around
and you'd have to see, youknow, around him for the rest of
(16:25):
my life potential, Like I wouldn'tI want to just do that unless I
I actually had real feelings for himand I was serious about it, you
know, like I was willing,I was willing to put all that aside
because I was really into him sowell and that's I mean amazing. So
I did not I did not dothat like to be petty or out of
(16:45):
spy or for revenge, because that'sthat's not the ideal situation, you know
what I mean. But you didhave to see him, yeah, and
her? But what was it aboutthis guy now that like y'all just clicked.
We just have like instant chemistry becauseI feel and I don't really know
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your type and I don't really knowhim, but I feel that you have
this like type and I feel likethat wasn't it right? I mean,
can what is my type of asshole? I am? How can I say
(17:26):
it being politically correct? But Ifeel you just have a a higher type
caliber of person, not like yourneighborhood, like a typical three kids that
you're going to have to any andyou're young and you have no responsibilities.
(17:55):
You got your own ship going onyou. I mean, you could do
whatever you want. You can haveI mean, ye whoever you want.
You're beautiful, you know, Imean, like you're a catch, You're
a cat. So I feel thatyou kind of that now, you know,
I'm saying I thought, yeah,you did it out of a revenge
(18:18):
thing that you lowered your standards tokind of yeah, And I'm being straight
up with you, you know,and I'm just telling you that's that's kind
of how I saw that. Ohmy god, what is she doing.
She's like lowering her standards to getback at this motherfucker and then she fell
in love. That's kind of howI say it. Sure, that's what
it looks like, and that's howI saw it. Yeah, I mean
(18:42):
know, we were both really intoeach other. I think a lot of
people like see me and like Ilook a certain way. I think I'm
I think I'm like I'm much moredown to earth than what I people might
see from the outside. And thenI also so came from a blended family,
like my parents are divorced. Theywere both remarried to people with kids
(19:07):
like I grew up with, butalso step siblings. I amused to kids
running around, like I really lovekids. So yeah, but you're also
at a point where I feel thatyou can choose either to be in that
situation or to be in a situationwhere you're traveling all over the world in
luxury. You know, I lovecruises, but it is true I love
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I love both right now because it'slike what happened with the situation, right
and she thought that she had aconnection and she thought this was like you
chose this. But I get whatyou were saying as well. But I
understand what what happened. I thoughtit would. Yeah, I don't know.
(19:55):
I don't really have no I knowif I have an answer, you
got addicted. You got addicted toit, addic did That's funny? Yeah,
And I think too you you don'twant to. I mean, I've
done it before too with You're like, well, I'm not this person that
(20:21):
would judge it, like if wecan make it work, we'll try to
make it work. And it justbecomes oh, I just see it as
like you did it kind of Andyou know, I'm not saying this is
what happened. I'm saying I sawit as like you did as a revenge
thing and then you fell in love. Yeah, and it would turn to
real just like fuck yeah, exactly. Yeah. I didn't do it for
(20:44):
revenge though, like I actually weactually had real feelings for each other.
This is your opportunity to you know, say what really happened? Yeah,
because all these all these bitches aregoing to hear it well, and that's
you know, I genuinely believe thatis I mean, uh, from the
outside, like you were looking init like sounds super weird, but like
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that's how I felt, and Ijust like couldn't couldn't deny it. But
it's like your it's like your yourrational mind and like your emotional mind,
you know, and like sometimes theydon't match. And I believe you because
I feel that you're somebody that wouldn'teven lie about it. Just yea if
she did do it, yeah,exactly, yeah, exactly. Yeah.
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If I did it for revenge,I would have like bounced a long time
ago, and I think she wouldsay exactly yeah for sure. Yeah,
No, I I do believe you. Yeah. And also I think it's
important to know that the now partnerwith our ex or wife was very in
(21:56):
contact with kind of I think whatshe was getting into, like asking some
questions to Berkeley and myself and sokind of fast forwards us to where we
had an incident, not feeling agoget into it. So this was something
that happened, but now crazy jeeis the tea. This is the tea.
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The tea. That's just kind ofa back story, you understand,
not intentional. It just happens,not for event, even though I feel
that there's no such things as coincidences, like this happened for a reason.
Yeah, and maybe it was veryhealing for you. Maybe it's who you
needed to heal. And sometimes thathappens and it doesn't work out in the
(22:47):
long term, but maybe it wasfor a reason, and that's your I
mean, do you feel better?Yeah, Like do you feel like you're
healing? I mean it's from Bill, I mean because but I'm not saying
do you feel better from the notthis new relation ship that passed, but
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the previous the reason that this wholekind of happened, you know, I
mean like, did it help gettinginto this relationship help? Or did it
make it worse? Do you knowwhat I'm saying. I don't really think
either. I mean I think Ifelt like a lot better about things once
I started dating this new person.I don't think I could have done it
(23:33):
if I was like so distraught.Yeah, Like I never said one word
to our ex. I've never saidone word to him, So I think
if I was still caught up overhim, like, I wouldn't have been
able to, like mentally even dothat, you know what I mean?
Ye Like, but I feel toothat you're you're very emotionally person like you
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know how to m hm control alot of these emotions that come through you,
you know, m Am, Iright, Am? I I could
be wrong. I don't know.I'm just do you feel like you've healed
from not like want like the relationship, but do you feel like the trauma
(24:21):
you experienced from the Neanderthal? Wereyou healed from that or not? For
sure? Okay? Yea like thebecause it can take a while, like
you have like PTSD and you feellike it takes a wild to like get
over what people can do to youremotions. On that end, I feel
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so much better like that even yeah, like even since our last podcast,
I feel really good place. I'min a good place. That's all that.
Yeah, get it? Yeah,So I got to get into the
whole story because that is, yeah, the whole point because don't piss me
(25:07):
off about the podcast is I'll talkabout you on the fucking podcast. Yeah,
so so, yeah, I guessI have to start it right,
Okay, so I have no ideawhat's going on? Yes, tell me
this is the funniest thing ever,because I was so you guys have to
know, you know, I'm naiveand like like bobblehead sometimes like dumb blonde,
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I guess, or I'm just thinkingthe best of everyone and everyone's intentions.
I'm just like laughing and rainbow Land. So I'm at Pete's Piano bar
at the Star for my best friend'sbirthday. Yes, in Frisco, Texas
and where all are yes, Andso I we've been there for a while
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and I had to go to therestroom. So I walked to go to
the bathroom and I hear Marcella andI turn around and I'm like hi,
And this girl goes, do youhave a podcast? And I'm like no
way, yeah, I'm so excitedthat like she knew the podcast, right,
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I've never seen this girl in mylife. And she goes, toupash
podcast. I'm like yes, likeso excited, so proud crowd. And
she's like, do you know myfriend and she says the name I think
of the ex wife of our exOkay, now of the new wife.
I'm the new wife of our ex. Now I forgot about this person.
(26:44):
So I'm like, no, Idon't know that name. She goes she
now says the last name of ourex and I'm thinking, so, I
says, like one of her friends. Yeah, so I'm thinking, I
still know who you are. Andthen she says our name and I'm still
mind you, like really excited aboutthis person? Need to me, I'm
(27:06):
so happy And I go, oh, yes I do. But I've never
talked to her maybe one time,never met her. I've never met her.
So then her head pops over.Hi, I am so and so,
and I'm like, Hi, mygosh, Hi, nice to meet
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you, because mind you, I'mso many steps away from our acts,
like it's been so long, andI'm thinking, and I have nothing to
do with her. She is Idon't think about them, I have nothing,
and I go, Hi, niceto meet you. Well, now
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I know that they're being assholes.Basically bringing up the podcast that we had
done talking ship about still bothers them. It still bothers them. Marcella runs
into the yeah, so to ourexcess new why and her friends and Peach
Piano who they are? They are? And they're trying to kind of now
(28:11):
instead of paying a compliment. It'sbackhanded, and I'm thinking, okay,
that was nice. You're getting like, like, what are the odds they
run into Yeah, all the pieces. So I go to the bathroom and
I start thinking, oh ship,they're like being assholes, and so then
I walk back. Now I'm tooyeah. So then I walk back to
(28:33):
all my friends and I go,mom, I just ran into so and
so. Now we're just having agood time. And you know pizza piano
bar if you've never been, it'sa dueling piano. People are singing.
So the song that comes on issee Low Greens, fuck You Now mind
you. I'm dancing and singing likefuck am I singing? Well? Then
(28:59):
I go people come up to meand they're like, did you hear them
dedicate that to you? And I'mlike, what, No, those bitches
dedicated the fuck you song to me. You dance like I love this song,
which is probably better. Anyways,I didn't hear my name, but
everybody else heard it, So thenlike, so did the did the pianist?
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I get on the microphone like thisis dedicated to Marcella said sorry Marcella,
Sorry Marcella. At least they apologized, apologize. So let me get
this this this guy's current girlfriend.Why with the kid? It has an
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infant that they're still mad at thefour xes ago. I guess I was
third accent, two xes ago whatever, because it was me and then Berkeley
and then they're married. Okay,so three x's ago. And mind you,
I didn't say ship about his currentwife. I was talking about my
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experience with my the person I wasin a relationship with that. Why do
they care that you did the podcast? It wasn't about the new girl.
Well I don't care about her.I do not care. You deal with
that? Well, you know he'she's fucking talking ship and saying that's what
I think and shying and that's fine. So we have cars. Is not
(30:33):
his fault. The course event,the events that we recounted were our own
experience and it was before this newgirl was in the picture. Yeah,
we didn't even know who you are. Why are they mad that we did
a podcast about our own experiences?Is and things that actually happened? Yeah?
That are true, these things actually, Like why are they upset about
(30:56):
that? Yeah? So then thathappens? And my mom, why we
have stayed friends with Berkeley this fulltime. We talk all the time.
So this happens, and I can'thelp myself. I text Berkeley and I
go, what are you doing rightnow? I have to understand. Really,
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Hi, I'm Olivia Bully. I'mone of the gossip girls here at
tupash Podcasts. You can find meon Instagram at Liv's World and if you
need me, I'll be crying myBentley. I'm Marcella, co host of
the tupash podcast. You can findme on all social media platforms Marcella Roinary.
You can also find me on TikTok, Marcella Roinary seven and I say,
(31:40):
whatever the fuck I want. Myname is Cruz Koffer. You can
find me on Instagram. And that'spretty much it, and let's do some
tequila together on the next show.If you enjoy listening to our show,
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Welcome to the Tupash Podcast. Iam Gabrielle. I'm a former New York
Mafia princess originally from Austria. Iam the mother of three and the owner
of Tupash Boutique and here with mybeautiful cost Marsella, my daughter. Hello,
I'm Marcella. I'm a dancer,choreographer, model and designer for Tupash
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and I say whatever I want.My name is Cruz. I am a
stylist. I also own the SocietySalon in the Design District. And I
am a short, little Mexican witha big personality. What will they say
next? Welcome to the Tupash Podcast. What will we say next? What
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we don't know? So we don'tknow? Hello, wonderful listeners. I'm
here with Marsellam, Cui and Cruiseand with one of our gossip girls,
one of our favorites. Some doowsBerkeley, She's back, Yeah, same
back. They are the crazier theyare, I think when some people know
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she's on the get nervous. Probablyso. Berkeley has been on several shows
on the tupasch podcast, but themost interesting and most important ones were episode
to eighty six to eighty seven andto eighty eight. That is when Berkeley
came on to discuss all things aboutsomeone an ex of Masella and Berkeley's together
(01:52):
in the crowds. Yeah, caughtthat must sellas ex at the time was
cheating with Berkeley. Do we needa refresher? Do we need a little
a little refresher, Yes, becausethere's new people that are listening that have
never heard that story and maybe don'twant to hear. Yeah, the whole
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thing. Yeah episode, let's second, but yeah, even a few minutes.
Yeah, could do a little version. I was with so this person's
name, I was with this person. Yeah, and we were together for
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a while. I think I thoughtwe were gonna get married. He liked
to put his dick in different people, not just one, but there were
several. And then he was withbeautiful Berkeley and then we became friends after
man has excellent taste. And that'sthe worst when like these terrible guys date
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these beautiful girls, because then itmakes them attractive. So other chans,
Yeah, they're like, why isshe with him? Oh my god,
I need to go figure it out. No, it's terrible, and obviously
I think she was getting told wewere not together. And vice versa or
not. I mean he was tellingme we were together, but pizza girl
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yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, delivery pizza yeah. So yeah,
we finally talked and then we gotthe whole truth. I got all the
truth in Berkeley and I finally communicatedson that was on the podcast, and
that was on the podcast kind ofaccidentally like some kind of like compared timelines,
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and he was seeing me while hewas dating Marcella. I had no
idea she was around, so theywere dating seriously. I was kind of
on the side, and then Marcellabroke up with him, so then I
became the main so that's my turn. But he was probably cheated on me
with a bunch of others as well, so we we kind of shared our
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experiences with this person. It waslike honestly healinging, like I feel it
was. Yeah, So it wasn'tlike a ship talking session like it was
like healing for both of us.And we compared timelines and then me and
him broke up, But it washe started the way I was, Yeah,
the way I did it. Y'allneed to listen to those. Yeah,
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I actually listened to it recently.It's a pressure. How did you
feel about it? How did youfeel about listening? I mean I honestly
felt a little sad. It's reallysad. Yeah, Like what part sad
that you went through it? No, I just think it like looking back,
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like twenty twenty high inside, LikeI just was like so naive when
it happened, right, and nowlike that I'm older and I've had a
chance like healing process, Like youcan just see how big like a predator
and a groomer. This guy isa narcissist and it's sad. Also the
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people who know of him, alot of people say he's so charming and
so because I was like in myexperience, I don't know how she feels,
but I'm like, how the howdid I fall for that again with
somebody like and he really painted himselfto be a stand up person, an
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honest person, you know, kindof like a dorky dad. He's not
going to do anything. And thena lot of people are said, you
know, he just is somebody whohas a problem, Like I don't think
he could ever be faithful, Hecould never tell the truth just like that
forever. Yeah, that's interesting.I've done a lot of research. I
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think he's for sure. One narcissists. Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
I think that I think that termis like thrown around loosely in today's
society, and yeah, yeah,you can have narcissistic tendencies, but actual
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narcissism goes way beyond taking a tonof selfies and on social media, Like
there's a small percentage of the populationthat like actually has narcissistic personality disorder and
they're scary and they're dangerous. Well, I think it's interesting that after all
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this time, you listen and thereaction is that it made you sad.
Yeah. Yeah, I think itwas just sad because it helps you heal.
Though, does it make you realizelike damn, like I was in
a place where, you know,maybe you were not naive. Yeah.
But at the same time too,it's like, Okay, now I've learned.
This is something that I've learned,I've grown. Yeah, I'm not
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gonna let this shit happen anymore.Yeah, I feel like I'm like a
totally different person than I was whenI dated him, and even recording the
podcast, like because yeah, Ithink I did do some crazy shit back
then, but like, come,I was like twenty twenty one twenty two
years old, Like I'm twenty eightnow. I cannot imagine going on a
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date with a twenty year old andlike buying them alcohol, Like that's creepy,
you know, Like I can't imaginemyself in his shoes, like being
forty one, forty two years old, like creeping on some twenty year old
who lives I was a college student, like I lived at home with my
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parents, Like I didn't know anyI didn't know any better. That's that's
Jolie's age, his daughters, that'shis daughter's age. So we can get
into it later. But a lotof people I've like, they kind of
make fun of me for some theways that I acted, But I'm like,
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I was just so young, Ididn't know any better, and I
was like in an abusive relationship,so well, and abusers are really good
at making you feel like a crazyperson. So yeah, oh yeah,
literally yeah, but yeah, thisperson is one h a narcissist, So
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then I'm scary. I don't rememberexactly how we ended those podcasts from back
then, but then fast forward alittle bit, so then you actually ended
up meeting tell us a little bitabout that part. Do you not have
to give names. Yes, So, okay, so Marcella was dating him,
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I mean Marcella is dating our exthey broke up. He started dating
me and then we broke up.And then our ex started dating this new
girl and she divorced her husband forokay, yeah, so now did they
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have any kids? Yeah, theyhave they have a baby together. She
had three with her ex husband.M hmm. And then he has two
kids with two different baby moments.Our ex, yeah, has two children.
And so then so he starts datingthe new girl back three kids.
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Yes, they go to get marriedand have a kid, and then then
they have a kid together six andthey got married and they're married. Yes.
And so then turns out I havea mutual friend with the ex husband
of her, the one that sheleft for our ex. So then and
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I can I can tell you howwe met, how we like figured out
that we had a mutual friend,because that's kind of funny. But then
we I had we started dating theex husband. So did the old switcheroole?
Yeah, so you're you started datingwhat? I started dating my exes
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new parents X. Yeah. Istarted dating my ex divorced they separated.
I started dating my ex's new girl'sex husband. So we like swash.
So so are they are they divorced? So they separated? Yes, there
they were, Oh yeah yeah,because now our ex is now marriage.
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So did you do this? Iliterally did. I literally didn't. So
we're like, you guys, cannatdo this. And then I was going
through your mind, clear it out, clear clear it up, let's clear
it up. I think it's goodfor her to do that. Yeah.
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Yeah. So after the last podcastcame out, it kind of like spread
like wildfire, Yeah, prosionally throughthe suburb. So this girl, Dana
reached out to me. And Iknow Dana through when I was dating our
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ex. Dana was a longtime friendof our ex for like twenty plus years.
So when I was dating him,I met Dana and we became friends.
But then after I broke up,we never really talked again. Like
I removed him and all of hisfriends on social media, like I kind
of did a sweep. So thenwhen the podcast came out, she reached
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out to me and was like,hey, I heard the podcast, Like
that was amazing, Like, I'mso glad you got away from that guy.
I'm not his friend either anymore.Like we had a huge falling out,
and so we kind of like rekindledour friendship. She like the podcast
was hilarious, and so we're goingback and forth and then she's like,
(12:35):
yeah, so he's with this newgirl. Now, like what's her deal?
Blah blah blah. So we're kindof just going back and forth.
And then about a week later,she texts me, Oh, my god,
no way, Berkeley, I knowthe ex husband. I've known this
guy for like a year. AndI'm like, what, no way,
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how And she said he lives inmy neighborhood and about a year ago,
me and him we met at thisneighborhood bar and we kind of bonded because
we were both going through a divorce. So you didn't know so she didn't
know. Sorry, what are youas? I didn't know that connection.
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They didn't know the connection yet I'mgoing to get there. So they they
bond like they're both going through adivorce, but they didn't share like names
or anything. And the guy wouldbe like, yeah, my my wife
left me for this fat piece ofshit and all this blah blah blah.
So then one day, and keepin mind, Dana has known our ex
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for twenty plus years. So oneday the ex husband slips up. He
finally says his ex wife's name,and so Dana's just being hind a snow.
So she searches the ex wife onFacebook, and to her surprise,
her profile picture is with her inour ex She's like, no fucking way,
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this is who your wife left youfor. I've known this guy for
like twenty plus years, Like thisis who you've been talking about this whole
time. I'm like, oh mygod, like that had to be a
yeah, And she's like no,no, Like his two ex girlfriends just
got together and like did a threepart podcast about the whole thing, Like
(14:35):
you got to listen to it.He's like what. And I think it
was more of a warning for himbecause his kids to be around this person,
you know, like you should listento it so you know who your
children are around exactly. So Danasends him the three part podcast and he
listens to the whole thing. Didhe send it to her? Yeah,
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he is to the ex wife,Oh my god. And then it kind
of like spread like wildfire throughout theirlittle neighborhood and North Dallas whatever. And
but then Dane was like, ohmy god, brother like this is this
guy's the nicest guy. Like weall need to like just get together for
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drinks, like it'll be fun,you know. And so I'm like,
eh, like that's kind of weird, don't you think awkward? And she's
like, no, he's the nicestguy, Like let's just just do it.
I'm like, okay, whatever,fuck it. So we all get
together for drinks and then me andhim just end up literally hitting it off.
(15:39):
We're start eating. How long didyou guys state? About a year?
Yeah, so that I feel thathappened quick. Now. I remember
when that happened, and I thoughtI was like, oh, she's getting
back. Yeah, at least that'swhat it looks like from that inside.
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Looking Yeah, right, I cansee that. I think it does.
But no, like honestly, likewe really connected, like we really clicked.
And the whole time I was like, this is weird, Like and
I don't want to subject to myselfto be in that situation where I'm around
and you'd have to see, youknow, around him for the rest of
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my life potential, Like I wouldn'tI want to just do that unless I
I actually had real feelings for himand I was serious about it, you
know, like I was willing,I was willing to put all that aside
because I was really into him sowell and that's I mean amazing. So
I did not I did not dothat like to be petty or out of
(16:45):
spy or for revenge, because that'sthat's not the ideal situation, you know
what I mean. But you didhave to see him, yeah, and
her? But what was it aboutthis guy now that like y'all just clicked.
We just have like instant chemistry becauseI feel and I don't really know
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your type and I don't really knowhim, but I feel that you have
this like type and I feel likethat wasn't it right? I mean,
can what is my type of asshole? I am? How can I say
(17:26):
it being politically correct? But Ifeel you just have a a higher type
caliber of person, not like yourneighborhood, like a typical three kids that
you're going to have to any andyou're young and you have no responsibilities.
(17:55):
You got your own ship going onyou. I mean, you could do
whatever you want. You can haveI mean, ye whoever you want.
You're beautiful, you know, Imean, like you're a catch, You're
a cat. So I feel thatyou kind of that now, you know,
I'm saying I thought, yeah,you did it out of a revenge
(18:18):
thing that you lowered your standards tokind of yeah, And I'm being straight
up with you, you know,and I'm just telling you that's that's kind
of how I saw that. Ohmy god, what is she doing.
She's like lowering her standards to getback at this motherfucker and then she fell
in love. That's kind of howI say it. Sure, that's what
it looks like, and that's howI saw it. Yeah, I mean
(18:42):
know, we were both really intoeach other. I think a lot of
people like see me and like Ilook a certain way. I think I'm
I think I'm like I'm much moredown to earth than what I people might
see from the outside. And thenI also so came from a blended family,
like my parents are divorced. Theywere both remarried to people with kids
(19:07):
like I grew up with, butalso step siblings. I amused to kids
running around, like I really lovekids. So yeah, but you're also
at a point where I feel thatyou can choose either to be in that
situation or to be in a situationwhere you're traveling all over the world in
luxury. You know, I lovecruises, but it is true I love
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I love both right now because it'slike what happened with the situation, right
and she thought that she had aconnection and she thought this was like you
chose this. But I get whatyou were saying as well. But I
understand what what happened. I thoughtit would. Yeah, I don't know.
(19:55):
I don't really have no I knowif I have an answer, you
got addicted. You got addicted toit, addic did That's funny? Yeah,
And I think too you you don'twant to. I mean, I've
done it before too with You're like, well, I'm not this person that
(20:21):
would judge it, like if wecan make it work, we'll try to
make it work. And it justbecomes oh, I just see it as
like you did it kind of Andyou know, I'm not saying this is
what happened. I'm saying I sawit as like you did as a revenge
thing and then you fell in love. Yeah, and it would turn to
real just like fuck yeah, exactly. Yeah. I didn't do it for
(20:44):
revenge though, like I actually weactually had real feelings for each other.
This is your opportunity to you know, say what really happened? Yeah,
because all these all these bitches aregoing to hear it well, and that's
you know, I genuinely believe thatis I mean, uh, from the
outside, like you were looking init like sounds super weird, but like
(21:07):
that's how I felt, and Ijust like couldn't couldn't deny it. But
it's like your it's like your yourrational mind and like your emotional mind,
you know, and like sometimes theydon't match. And I believe you because
I feel that you're somebody that wouldn'teven lie about it. Just yea if
she did do it, yeah,exactly, yeah, exactly. Yeah.
(21:33):
If I did it for revenge,I would have like bounced a long time
ago, and I think she wouldsay exactly yeah for sure. Yeah,
No, I I do believe you. Yeah. And also I think it's
important to know that the now partnerwith our ex or wife was very in
(21:56):
contact with kind of I think whatshe was getting into, like asking some
questions to Berkeley and myself and sokind of fast forwards us to where we
had an incident, not feeling agoget into it. So this was something
that happened, but now crazy jeeis the tea. This is the tea.
(22:22):
The tea. That's just kind ofa back story, you understand,
not intentional. It just happens,not for event, even though I feel
that there's no such things as coincidences, like this happened for a reason.
Yeah, and maybe it was veryhealing for you. Maybe it's who you
needed to heal. And sometimes thathappens and it doesn't work out in the
(22:47):
long term, but maybe it wasfor a reason, and that's your I
mean, do you feel better?Yeah, Like do you feel like you're
healing? I mean it's from Bill, I mean because but I'm not saying
do you feel better from the notthis new relation ship that passed, but
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the previous the reason that this wholekind of happened, you know, I
mean like, did it help gettinginto this relationship help? Or did it
make it worse? Do you knowwhat I'm saying. I don't really think
either. I mean I think Ifelt like a lot better about things once
I started dating this new person.I don't think I could have done it
(23:33):
if I was like so distraught.Yeah, Like I never said one word
to our ex. I've never saidone word to him, So I think
if I was still caught up overhim, like, I wouldn't have been
able to, like mentally even dothat, you know what I mean?
Ye Like, but I feel toothat you're you're very emotionally person like you
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know how to m hm control alot of these emotions that come through you,
you know, m Am, Iright, Am? I I could
be wrong. I don't know.I'm just do you feel like you've healed
from not like want like the relationship, but do you feel like the trauma
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you experienced from the Neanderthal? Wereyou healed from that or not? For
sure? Okay? Yea like thebecause it can take a while, like
you have like PTSD and you feellike it takes a wild to like get
over what people can do to youremotions. On that end, I feel
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so much better like that even yeah, like even since our last podcast,
I feel really good place. I'min a good place. That's all that.
Yeah, get it? Yeah,So I got to get into the
whole story because that is, yeah, the whole point because don't piss me
(25:07):
off about the podcast is I'll talkabout you on the fucking podcast. Yeah,
so so, yeah, I guessI have to start it right,
Okay, so I have no ideawhat's going on? Yes, tell me
this is the funniest thing ever,because I was so you guys have to
know, you know, I'm naiveand like like bobblehead sometimes like dumb blonde,
(25:33):
I guess, or I'm just thinkingthe best of everyone and everyone's intentions.
I'm just like laughing and rainbow Land. So I'm at Pete's Piano bar
at the Star for my best friend'sbirthday. Yes, in Frisco, Texas
and where all are yes, Andso I we've been there for a while
(25:57):
and I had to go to therestroom. So I walked to go to
the bathroom and I hear Marcella andI turn around and I'm like hi,
And this girl goes, do youhave a podcast? And I'm like no
way, yeah, I'm so excitedthat like she knew the podcast, right,
(26:17):
I've never seen this girl in mylife. And she goes, toupash
podcast. I'm like yes, likeso excited, so proud crowd. And
she's like, do you know myfriend and she says the name I think
of the ex wife of our exOkay, now of the new wife.
I'm the new wife of our ex. Now I forgot about this person.
(26:44):
So I'm like, no, Idon't know that name. She goes she
now says the last name of ourex and I'm thinking, so, I
says, like one of her friends. Yeah, so I'm thinking, I
still know who you are. Andthen she says our name and I'm still
mind you, like really excited aboutthis person? Need to me, I'm
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so happy And I go, oh, yes I do. But I've never
talked to her maybe one time,never met her. I've never met her.
So then her head pops over.Hi, I am so and so,
and I'm like, Hi, mygosh, Hi, nice to meet
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you, because mind you, I'mso many steps away from our acts,
like it's been so long, andI'm thinking, and I have nothing to
do with her. She is Idon't think about them, I have nothing,
and I go, Hi, niceto meet you. Well, now
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I know that they're being assholes.Basically bringing up the podcast that we had
done talking ship about still bothers them. It still bothers them. Marcella runs
into the yeah, so to ourexcess new why and her friends and Peach
Piano who they are? They are? And they're trying to kind of now
(28:11):
instead of paying a compliment. It'sbackhanded, and I'm thinking, okay,
that was nice. You're getting like, like, what are the odds they
run into Yeah, all the pieces. So I go to the bathroom and
I start thinking, oh ship,they're like being assholes, and so then
I walk back. Now I'm tooyeah. So then I walk back to
(28:33):
all my friends and I go,mom, I just ran into so and
so. Now we're just having agood time. And you know pizza piano
bar if you've never been, it'sa dueling piano. People are singing.
So the song that comes on issee Low Greens, fuck You Now mind
you. I'm dancing and singing likefuck am I singing? Well? Then
(28:59):
I go people come up to meand they're like, did you hear them
dedicate that to you? And I'mlike, what, No, those bitches
dedicated the fuck you song to me. You dance like I love this song,
which is probably better. Anyways,I didn't hear my name, but
everybody else heard it, So thenlike, so did the did the pianist?
(29:25):
I get on the microphone like thisis dedicated to Marcella said sorry Marcella,
Sorry Marcella. At least they apologized, apologize. So let me get
this this this guy's current girlfriend.Why with the kid? It has an
(29:47):
infant that they're still mad at thefour xes ago. I guess I was
third accent, two xes ago whatever, because it was me and then Berkeley
and then they're married. Okay,so three x's ago. And mind you,
I didn't say ship about his currentwife. I was talking about my
(30:08):
experience with my the person I wasin a relationship with that. Why do
they care that you did the podcast? It wasn't about the new girl.
Well I don't care about her.I do not care. You deal with
that? Well, you know he'she's fucking talking ship and saying that's what
I think and shying and that's fine. So we have cars. Is not
(30:33):
his fault. The course event,the events that we recounted were our own
experience and it was before this newgirl was in the picture. Yeah,
we didn't even know who you are. Why are they mad that we did
a podcast about our own experiences?Is and things that actually happened? Yeah?
That are true, these things actually, Like why are they upset about
(30:56):
that? Yeah? So then thathappens? And my mom, why we
have stayed friends with Berkeley this fulltime. We talk all the time.
So this happens, and I can'thelp myself. I text Berkeley and I
go, what are you doing rightnow? I have to understand. Really,
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Hi, I'm Olivia Bully. I'mone of the gossip girls here at
tupash Podcasts. You can find meon Instagram at Liv's World and if you
need me, I'll be crying myBentley. I'm Marcella, co host of
the tupash podcast. You can findme on all social media platforms Marcella Roinary.
You can also find me on TikTok, Marcella Roinary seven and I say,
(31:40):
whatever the fuck I want. Myname is Cruz Koffer. You can
find me on Instagram. And that'spretty much it, and let's do some
tequila together on the next show.If you enjoy listening to our show,
please follow tupash podcast on all socialmedia handles and tell all your family and
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