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Train Like You Listen

We're passionate about improving every training experience. Our guests range from experts in Learning & Development to professionals who have landed in training and have found their way. You'll hear from business leaders, innovative thinkers, and creative professionals.

Episodes

HR and L&D: Working Together to Build Better Leaders

July 3, 2025 • 18 mins
If you're interested in how L&D professionals can support better leadership at every level of an organization, check out my latest podcast with The HR Lady, Wendy Sellers. Wendy brings a direct, practical approach to leadership, and she doesn’t shy away from tough conversations or tough truths.

Tune in to hear thoughts on what leadership really means, why titles don’t make leaders, and how HR and L&D can work together to sup...
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10 Years in Business & Learning, Part 1

June 5, 2025 • 25 mins
What does it really take to build a lasting business? Brian Washburn and Tim Waxenfelter, co-founders of Endurance Learning, pull back the curtain on 10 years of grit, unexpected pivots, and hard-won lessons. No sugarcoating; just real stories from the trenches of entrepreneurship. The episode serves as both a celebration of their milestone and practical advice for aspiring entrepreneurs in Learning & Development or consulting.

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L&D It's Time to Steal from Marketing with Mike Taylor

May 15, 2025 • 17 mins
Host Brian Washburn chats with learning consultant and author Mike Taylor about his new book, Think Like a Marketer, Train Like an L&D Pro, which he co-authored with Bianca Baumann. Taylor dives into the overlap between marketing and learning & development (L&D), arguing that marketers are far better at capturing attention and sparking behavior change, two areas where L&D often falls short. He shares ways that, with...
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The Pulse of Learning: The 2025 L&D Global Sentiment Survey

April 24, 2025 • 25 mins
Donald Taylor’s 2025 Learning & Development Global Sentiment Survey reveals AI’s explosive impact on workplace learning, but the real story is how professionals are moving from buzz to action—using it for everything from quick content fixes to reshaping skills strategies. Yet, the timeless challenge remains: proving L&D’s value. Are we chasing trends or driving results?

🗄️Download Donald Taylor’s 2025 Learning & Develop...
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Talent Management & Talent Development in NGO's

September 26, 2024 • 14 mins
Whether you are working in an NGO or not, this discussion with Gretchen Regehr from Conservation International will have you thinking more deeply about the role of both talent management and talent development in your organization.

I've added some links below to relevant resources including the newest, our Free Learning Objectives Generator!

🎯 Create training session descriptions and learning objectives with a free learning objectiv...
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Cooking Up Training Activities

August 22, 2024 • 12 mins
We love cooking up new resources for the L&D field. We get excited when people download them. But we don't often know how they're being used. I had the opportunity to talk to two early childhood leaders, Glenna Gamble and Sharon Norris, and learn about how the integrated Endurance Learning's Activity Cookbook into their early childhood training session. 

📖 Brian shows how the build-borrow-buy approach can help small L&D tea...
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Ep 156: Inspiration from a Train-the-Trainer Program

August 8, 2024 • 14 mins
Brian spoke with John Edinger, a trainer he met while delivering a train-the-trainer session.

John shares just what it was about the design of the program that he went through that inspired him to be doing things new or differently or better, even though he'd already been training for a while. 


📖 Brian shows how the build-borrow-buy approach can help small L&D teams deliver amazing training in Instructional Design on a Shoestrin...
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Ep. 155 Training Team from Scratch (Part 2)

July 25, 2024 • 20 mins
This is the followup conversation with  Tim Barnosky, Manager of Training and Development for Innovative Solutions about his work building an L&D function from scratch. Check out episode 147 to hear the first part of this conversation.

📖 Brian shows how the build-borrow-buy approach can help small L&D teams deliver amazing training in Instructional Design on a Shoestring. 

📖 Brian’s first book, What’s Your Formula? helps pr...
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How "Mature" is Your Training Program?

December 14, 2023 • 17 mins
How strategic is your training program? How outcome-oriented, governed or sustainable is it? In today's podcast, Danielle Duran speaks with Brian Washburn about how to objectively measure your training program in those four key areas.

Endurance Learning is a full-service training design and development firm that has helped dozens of organizations build out mature training programs using elearning, instructor-led training, and train-...
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A Conversation on Inclusive Training Design

November 30, 2023 • 19 mins
When participating in a DEI-focused session led by Jolene Jang at a recent conference, Brian Washburn found himself continuously shaking his head. Every time she pointed out another way learning design can be more inclusive, and quite frankly inviting, to all learners, he thought: there's something else I'm not currently doing. Join Endurance Learning's Brian Washburn as he sits down with Jolene Jang to find out more about ways to ...
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Ep. 152 Where Sales Enablement Meets L&D

November 9, 2023 • 13 mins
Natalie Mazzie, an experienced sales enablement professional, discussed the crossover between training and sales enablement. Hear the Top 3 Sales Enablement Lessons for Learning & Development Professionals and more in this conversation with Endurance Learning's Brian Washburn.

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Accessibility and Inclusion in Instructor-Led Training (ILT)

July 27, 2023 • 12 mins
Is your ILT designed with accessibility and inclusion in mind? Gwen Navarrete Klapperich wants to make sure you consider accessibility and inclusion in your ILT design, and offers some suggestions on how to do just that.
Brian Washburn is the CEO of Endurance Learning where he helps find and grow a team of incredible instructional designers, elearning developers, and all around amazing people who build high quality and affordable tr...
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Escape Rooms in Instructional Design

July 13, 2023 • 20 mins
If you've ever been to an escape room, you can observe what a group of highly engaged people look like for 60 straight minutes. Is there a way to harness escape room design elements and bring them into the world of corporate training? Brian talks to Nate Martin, often cited as the founding father of the American escape room experience.

While the team at Endurance Learning hasn’t designed any actual escape rooms (but did include a di...
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A Learning & Development Resume that Gets Noticed

July 6, 2023 • 14 mins
When you're applying for an L&D job, how do you best position yourself to get a call from a recruiter or hiring manager? Experienced HR professional, Maria Leggett, offers her insights in today's podcast.

Endurance Learning is a full-service training development partner, specializing in elearning, instructor-led training, and train-the-trainer programs. Since 2015, our team of expert instructional designers and developers has he...
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Career Pivot into L&D?

June 22, 2023 • 28 mins
If you're looking to pivot into a role in the corporate training or learning and development space, this episode will give you some insights and questions to think about.

Transitioning fields can be tough, but Endurance Learning’s team of instructional designers can ease the pressure. Endurance Learning is a full-service training development partner, specializing in elearning, instructor-led training, and train-the-trainer programs....
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Ep. 147 Building an Internal L&D Team in an Organization (Part 1)

June 8, 2023 • 15 mins
How do you build an L&D team from scratch? Tim Barnosky of Innovative Solutions is currently in the process of answering that question. Today's podcast revolves around his vision and the challenges he anticipates.

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Connecting Theoretical Physics with Learning & Development

May 22, 2023 • 14 mins
The constructal law of design and evolution in nature can actually be applied in very concrete ways to the world of learning and professional development to help individuals, teams and organizations flow more efficiently.

Endurance Learning is a full-service training development partner, specializing in elearning, instructor-led training, and train-the-trainer programs. Since 2015, our team of expert instructional designers and deve...
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Turning the Tables: From Trainer to Student

May 15, 2023 • 23 mins
As people who have designed and delivered effective training, Kassy Laborie and Zovig Garboushian know a thing or two about good learning experiences. So what nuggets have they gleaned from a 9-month course that they're both attending, and that all of us should consider when designing our own programs? Today's podcast answers that question.

Endurance Learning is a full-service, boutique instructional design firm, specializing in ele...
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Getting Started with Game Design

May 8, 2023 • 30 mins
Karl Kapp has written 8 books, created 11 LinkedIn Learning courses and has an entire YouTube channel devoted to game and game design. Today on the podcast, he spends some time talking about how to bring game elements into learning.

Endurance Learning is a full-service training development partner, specializing in elearning, instructor-led training, and train-the-trainer programs. Since 2015, our team of expert instructional designe...
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Ep. 143 Is this the world's most effective role play?

May 1, 2023 • 17 mins
When it comes to your training participants, two of the dirtiest, or perhaps scariest, words you can say during a session may be: role play. In today's podcast, John Crook, Head of Learning at Intersol Global, offers some thoughts on how to make role plays more authentic and robust.
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