September 22, 2024 • 58 mins
Transformations with Tara
Tara Sutphen CHt & Jason D McKean CHt discuss the Fall Equinox and moving into the darker days of Autumn.
Tara Sutphen CHt & Jason D McKean CHt discuss the Fall Equinox and moving into the darker days of Autumn.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Welcome to Transformations with Tara. This is Tarah Sutton and
my guest and co host is Jason D. McCain. And
he's been the voice of over a million home recordings
throughout the world. Yes and yes, so Jason, welcome to
(00:25):
the show. He is a author these days, a reverend.
He teaches all over the world. He is the own
Tara Wizard. He's awesome.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Thanks Tarah, thank you, thank you. And you know, it's
it's always a privilege to uh to be here and
to uh, you know, talk about all things spiritual.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yes, all things spiritual. It's great. So today we're going
to talk about autumn cornucopia. And so it is Maybawn,
the fall equinox, Yeah, the autumn equinox. So today is
the first day of fall, and it is the time
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of that darkness starts in the world, in our world
in the Northern hemisphere. Actually it's the time of light
in the Southern hemisphere, but for us up here in
the Northern Hemisphere, it is the time of darkness.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I've been noticing that too. I mean, have you like
just kind of your own internal clock, like like when
you when it's like six o'clock here and it's starting
to get dark, and it's like it feels like it's
what nine o'clock.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Now, because it's yeah, getting chillier and everything. And we
were so hot in Los Angeles this summer that I mean, gosh,
it was just crazy temperatures. And now we're all of
a sudden, it's just like overnight, it went to chili weather.
So it snowed yesterday and big bear what Yeah it
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was it was hail, really, but it was it was
an inch thick. Yeah. I thought, oh, but I don't
have my ranch up there anymore. It's lay out, yeah,
pelting down hall. Yeah. But I you know, I've loved
everywhere I've lived.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I definitely went from from T shirt and shorts to
long sleeves and pants.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, the cold, but it came on just like that.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
It's just like the overnight.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yes, just like that.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And not to say that we won't have our one
hundred degree days again, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, there's supposed to be a few ninety plus days
next week. But which was weird because we've gone into
the fall season and you know, I have to deal
with heat like that.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I know, it's like we're already prepped for Yeah, for autumn.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yes, yeah, we're all getting into the autumn mood, aren't we. Yeah, yeah,
the autumn colors and Halloween will be coming up, which
is so wonderful, always so much fun.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
It's it's one of my funnest times of years.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Funnest, it's fun the best, is the funniest.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Bestest, it's the betterest, loveliest. Yeah, time of year. Yeah,
is uh this Helloween? You know, it's funny. I was
I was talking to a a son of a friend.
That almost sounds like kind of naughty you, son of
a friend. But but Halloween it's a it's a time
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to like take on like an alter ego. Right, it's
usually your one person like three hundred and sixty four
days out of the year, but on Halloween you get to,
you know, be be that magical being or the superhero
or the you know, express a different side of yourself.
And and so he he was like telling me about
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you know what what he uh, you know, like to
do and it and you know it's for me. It's like,
you know, I'm I'm the Wizard, like three hundred and
sixty four days out of the year, so you know
who am I like on that that one that one day?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
You know, It's like, right, used to be so he
used to be the same thing.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
When I was working at the Queen Mary and all
during the Dark Harbor season. Yeah, I'd be like still
you know, the fortune teller. But but now it's uh,
you know, I can I can be anonymous, all right.
It can just kind of like maybe I just hide out,
take a.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Day off, right, I don't know. This year it falls
on Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I heard, well, how is that possible? Oh?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Not Friday the thirteenth? What was it? What was it?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I saw a meme the other day where it's like, oh,
you know, for the first time in a long time,
Halloween falls on Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah what that? Oh I did I see? I fell
for it too, Yeah, right, go that.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Is so weird. Oh and my name is.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
The thirty first nah.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Right, it's just like yeah, inverted a little bit. But
it does fall on a.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Friday, right I must Yeah, I haven't checked.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I haven't checked either.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I mean, is that a full moon? Maybe? No, it's
not a full moon either. Yeah, that doesn't seem it's not.
It's not. Everybody not a full moon. No, I mean
I can tell you when the full moon is. It's
right here in my ephemeris. Yeah, yeah, okay, my femoris, right,
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buy my right there on your right here on my desk, right.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
See the full moon behind you, yeah, the.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Fall moon behind me. Let's see. The full moon is
going to be the seventeenth. It's going to be twenty
four degrees aries full moon. Yeah, so seventeenth, and then
the new moon is on the second with an annular eclipse,
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which remember you know the Native Americans, they always use
the shadows of the moon, the solar eclipses. They would
stay inside, they would never let them like see them
feel them. But in you know, really Celtic folklore and stuff,
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it's more the it's the time of gifts that whatever
is going out is going to gift to you. There's
a gift. So solar eclipse are always great. Lunar eclips
not so much. You should choose what you want going out. Yeah,
and so we just had lunar eclips yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, it's like we were out in uh in Los Angeles,
who were out in Beverly Hills. Actually we were walking around.
We're strolling around with with Ananda dog and it was
like just like a little bit of like a taken
the like there was a bite taken out at the top. Okay,
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that's that.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Was like the right because it was only a partial.
It was a partial, and I thought it was I
mean it was Elvis. Elvis came sailo that it looked
like a face and looked like it's a smile and
looked like dark hair. And it was like, hey, so
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now I was sighting.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
How you doing here to look shrine my glory upon.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You upon the world.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Or just you right, it's like, you know we can
like that. I just see Elvis. That's just for me.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I was, yeah, like somebody like, oh my god, who's
projecting themselves on the moon. That'd be the next thing.
We'll see projections on the moon, Like they're going to
put put a movie.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Well yeah, I mean why not. It's like but it'll
be advertising. You know, it's like the Moon brought to
you by McDonald's. I'm loving it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
You know, right right, that's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Well it's not until until we ban it, you know,
for being like too crass.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, well they should leave the moon alone and you know,
keep it, keep it going. Nicely for our orbit.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
That's right. No one touched the moon.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Well, they used to bomb the moon. No doing it.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Don't do it, don't do it, don't do it.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, and we want the moon to be our beautiful
spotlight for the world, that's right. Yeah, yeah, no. I
just remember when I was in I was at the
Strawberry Festival, which is uh and there was a full
moon and Strawberry Festival. It had to be like fifteen
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years ago, and it was up in Yosemite and we
all were all camping and a lot of grateful deadheads
would come up for the Strawberry Festival, and so some
deadhead was saying to somebody that Jerry Garcia was left
there in the moon, and do you see it? And
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it was just like riveted by really okay, So that's
why the Alvis joke.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
It was, well, but you could have, like, you know,
said that's not Jerry Garcia, that's Elvis.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
That looks like dark hair, and it was like, well,
there you go, Elvis.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
It's like his pompa kind of.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah yeah, kind of yeah, okay. So I just thought, oh,
there you go.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Was it young Elvis or was it seventies Elvis?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I don't know, Jason, it was probably just him, right,
you can take your pick of what year it was. Yeah,
what part of his life? What would he wants you
to see? What? Who would he want you to Which.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Version of Elvis?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Right?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
This was the eclipse? Maybe that's a poll that you like,
you know, like you have on your social media.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
That's a picture you see Elvis is posing on the moon? Right?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Or is this suspicious minds Elvis?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
So anyway, how did we get on that topic?
Speaker 1 (11:16):
The moon?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Oh, the moon?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Jerry Garcia.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Wasn't that like folk folk music? Like the Strawberry Festival?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah, it was kind of folk music. Yeah, folk music,
alternative folk music. Yeah, yeah, Okay, I'm sure they still
do it, right, I don't know. But it's beautiful. It
was beautiful Yosemite, and it was the greatest camping I swear.
I mean we would set up tents for us and
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the kids, you know, I was married at the time,
and uh, and then we'd go instead of having to
cook our food and everything, we'd go to the cappuccino
truck in the morning. You just take a stroll and
get your breakfast, whatever kind of breakfast you wanted, because
there was about five trucks out there that you got
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to choose from.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
So no camping or cooking over the fire now a campfire.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
No, you you went and you had your food, and yeah,
it was just so nice. It was really camping. It was.
It was great camping.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Its glaming.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
It was clamping, clamping at it's very finest. Yeah, where
you know you slept on an air mattress and in
the tent and oh yeah, no, it was great.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
That was like on the valley floor of Yosemite.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Uh no, it was right at like right before you
got to Yosemite, like the North Gate. It would be
right before that, some meadow lands or something. I don't
know what it was called even I can't, you know,
I don't remember that far back, although I have lots
of pictures and lots of so I'm sure I, you know,
have it archived.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I think they think if we take photos and stuff,
if we take video, then we don't have to like
store it in our heads so much now.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
And it was fun, but you know it was I
was going along as a good wye you know they
he liked great folk music and stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
So yeah, all right, change of subject. As far as
the cornucopia right atom where it's like, you know, they
say that the equinox, the autumn equinox, it's a it's
a time of balance, of transformation, but also one where
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you know, one it looks back to see what they've
accomplished and all. And you know, I think that that
one can if they're if they're pleased, right, they can celebrate,
you know, with with their accomplishments. That that time of
you know, just generally like acknowledging your your progress in life.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Well it's a time of feasts too, you know, you're
feasting on all the sabbots. They're just really fun that way.
And so these holy days, which are considered holy days,
they're just the movements of our natural world. All the moon,
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all the you know how it goes in each of
its phases. As you see it behind me, and so
you know, the the it gets less and less light.
So we're in the you know, going to celebrate the summer.
And your summer celebration comes in as what did you
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have as the best time this summer? You know, and
I know that I have great memories of this summer.
I had an incredible summer.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
It's like that crazy essay that time when you'd come
back into school and you'd write about, you know, what
you did on your summer vacation. Yeah, so so what
do you celebrate from from your summer?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
What do I celebrate from my summer right now? As
far as what was the great, well, you know, I
went on a trip across the US with Everest, my
grand angel, and then I and we hit We hit
nine states, but then Cheyenne came home from France and
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so she her and I we went to five more
states and to Canada. Plus I went to France and
Switzerland and England too this summer. So it was just
like you know, okay, yeah, I mean I was traveling.
I traveled and then went to Tennessee too, So I
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don't know how many states I was.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
In time spending that quality time with your here with
with evereston.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Oh my gosh. She never asked, not once. Everest did
not ask are we there yet? Not once? Yeah, I
but I try to make it a kid friendly, like
we're gonna stop here, let's look on the map, let's
look at there. Let's you know, you're you're in charge
of the radio. So there was a good radio Segnal
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all the way and she's really cute about what music
she likes, and so, you know, I she was in
charge of the radio. I gave her that to be
in charge, and she just loved it. We had a blast,
just a blast. We get really well anyway, but oh
my gosh, we just had such a great time.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Can you imagine our our dad like saying, okay, whatever
you want to listen to on the radio, I'm okay
with that. He would have like jettisoned himself out out
of the car while driving. You know, well if you
had to.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Listen to our music, right, yeah? That and then and
then I then Cheyenne her and my trip too was
absolutely fabulous. And then on top of that, we stayed
five days with my Malibu girlfriends in Idaho. One of
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my friends has a beautiful house up there on a lake,
and so we went out on the pontoon boat and
you know, it's eleven hundred feet deep, and Mary put
her foot on my back and pushed me into the
lake because you know, people are that comfortable with you
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just have fun to get in the water another water
because I was like it's eleven hundred feet huh, And
you're like, yeah, anyway. Yeah, but it was nice and warm.
It wasn't too cold even and which was nice. And
then we all went on a we went on a
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bike bike tour the Hiawatha Trail, and I don't know
if anybody's been on the Hiawatha Trail, but it is fantastic.
If you ride a bike. It is very, very dark.
The only thing that I wish I had known before
is to take a headlamp on a like a beanie
or something, because the train tunnels are very cold, and
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one is one point six miles long and you can't
see a blasted thing. They just have a little bike
light and there it's you can only see if you're
going to run into a pothole or something. Yeah, and
there's two moats of water on the sides of you,
and so it's very it's you know, I mean, I'm
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sure people spill and you know, don't do well having
a bike accident. But it was fun last and you
get all muddy and then and you go over all
the trestles and all over the the caves, you know,
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the tunnels, and you know it's I think there's ten
tunnels and you have to go through the one point
six mile tunnel twice. Yeah, so because what happens is
you go through it, you go all the way down
to a place where then you catch a bus and
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you go all the way back up. But it's before
that big long tunnel again, and it's and then you're
on the cliff sides, you know. I mean I remember
it well, you know, like being in Denali in Alaska.
You look down the mountain, it's like, great, we're in
a school bus in the mountain road road.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
On a like a one lane roads.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
You know, right, but you've made it. Yeah, you've made
it there. So you figure out you know, it's going
to be great, and it's great. So then you go
back through it's oh wonderful. Really, we had a blast.
I would recommend it to anybody who rides a bike.
Yeah yeah, but you have to know how to ride
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a bike for sure, because it's it's miles miles miles
in my mountain biking.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Shape. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Well, it's in the mountains. It's like seven thousand feet
or something. Yeah, I say, it's not exactly, it's it's
uh yeah, you should be in it was a Montana.
We went to Montana, did that. Yeah, so yeah, the
high water trail. Yeah but fun, yeah, say you did it,
and yeah, yeah I liked it. And dear you saw
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some wildlife. Wouldn't wanted sandy bears, but we did see bear.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
That's why you didn't have the light in the tunnel there,
so that you didn't see the bears lighting.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeahsides, you know, right coming to get it drink right,
oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Now I know, just so like, oh, thank you, I know.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
And luckily there's like a little waterfall as you come
out of the tunnel because we're all like in it,
you know, like trying to get all the mud off
of us, you know, we're Yeah, but it was a
great day because it was July, so it wasn't too cold,
wasn't too hot, you know up there in the mountains
that high yeh yeh.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Seven thousand feet though that that's you know, just with
your own and breathing and stuff. If you're you know,
not used to being acclimated to that well.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Blood pressure everything, you have to be careful yeah, yeah, yeah,
because you're going to exert some energy, especially be in
that dark tunnel. All of a sudden, I'm like, because
you know, you don't see the tunnel, you don't see
the light on the other side. You know it curves
and stuff. Yeah, you don't see nothing. You don't see
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what's along the walls or anything. Nothing. Yeah, you're in
like darkness with just a little time light. And then
you know they were returning too, so you have to
watch out that. You know, it's two lane highway people
coming at you with their little teensy light and uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, hopefully it's it's working on on their their bike,
right right.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, Well it has to because otherwise I don't think
you could get through it unless you went with like
a group of people that you could see there and
who waited for you. Yeah. Yeah, if you had one
of those headlamps or would like just seeing the light
in the beanie, you know, that would really help, I think.
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But yeah, because I would have liked a fullow lamp. Yeah,
I got have seen the walls, you know, because you
could only see the walls. Every once in a while
if there was like somebody coming at you and you
could kind of see the other side of the wall,
or and you could see the water because there's there
was water trenches on each side, so you know, you
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don't only had so much room for to maneuver the
bike in the dark with people coming at you and
you know there's no nine one one is going to
be a long time, so yeah you should. Yeah, it
was fine. We had a bus.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
We related, so so your summer vacation that that was
like it sounded like amazing.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, And then we went into Canada. We went to
Travis's house and then Travis talked me and is bringing
his dog home? So I the dog took the whole roads,
rip back, whishy anime. Yeah, it's pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah. So so like when you think back about it,
right as far as like taking like the again that
that gratitude and being able to like synthesize that right
right to integrate it. And you know, I think we
do that sometimes for UH. We converted into fuel for
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for the next adventure, so that we stay open to
you know, what what's ahead, what's.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
U you know, yeah, that's the hell. So what it
was your it should be, you know, not just my.
I went on and on about my.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yes you did. Mine. Mine is a little bit more abbreviated,
but you know, it's like in the in the realm
of UH work or what I call the work, which
is you know, the the spiritual gatherings, the the workshops,
the you know, it's like I've I've been doing new
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things everything from a once a month Tarot salon in
Venice to the spiritual mentoring classes with my my friend
colleague Tracy Brown, where we work with with people on
helping them connect with their own spiritual source and and
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to expand in in their own their own gifts, you know,
and and to not just make it about a modality
where it's to row or mediumship or or whatever, but
to get to the real foundational aspects of spirituality. And
you know too, to be in that is it's like
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it's it's very foundational. You know. It just kind of
gets you connected, reconnected to what's at your own core
so that you know, you can kind of expand on
that to be more adventurous for you know, the next
opportunity that is showing up, you know, so that that's
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that's mainly you know what I'm very uh, you know,
grateful for, are these these experiences of of how the
work changes up, you know, how it's not just the
same routine, How how one just gets into a comfortable groove,
you know, and then you're just coasting in that, and
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then all of a sudden you're in a rut because
it's like, God, I'm just doing the same thing over
and over and over and over, and I'm not I'm
not challenging, challenging myself. I'm not growing. And it's important
to grow. It's important to to to change it up
so that you're not just in the in the same
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you know, just that that grind, you know, because that's
what anything, even if we love it, it will, you know,
will get too comfortable in that sameness of it, and
then it will start to get at us.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
It's like it's like relationships, right, It's like, you know,
find ways to you know, take a really great connection
and and you know, change it up, you know, from
time to time, do some different things, you know, you know,
go out to a different restaurant, you know, rather than
the same restaurant every yek you know, Friday night or whatever.
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You know, it's like it's okay to change things up
a little bit and to not get get stuck. Don't
get stuck. Don't get stuck.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yes, it's not to get stuck for sure. Well, and
it's always good to you know, keep up the romance
because we get so tied down into doing you know,
the same things, same routines. But well, definitely I did
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the past the twenty one days this summer as far
as breaking routines for sure, but uh yeah, and on
the road. But it was great.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, And you know, it's it's not always an easy
thing to do. You know, it's like sometimes we just
have to see what it is that we can do
and just kind of right, you know, find the point
of difference or a point of departure from again, like
a routine that you know, sometimes we need to be
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in a place of discipline, you know, where we're you know,
heading towards a specific goal. You know, sometimes we can't
allow ourselves to break from that so that we can
get that that one goal done. And there's there's there's
no you know, judgment on that, right but oh yeah,
you know, if if we're you know, in that place
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of either redefining what what our goal is, if if
we're needing to enhance it, you know, sometimes we need
to have these these places of where we can see
it clearly. And and sometimes that's like just kind of
stepping out of the habit or the pattern that that
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would keep us locked in to be doing the same
thing over and over and you know, being able to
see it from another viewpoint and and then kind of
reconnect with it as needed.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, yes, yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I pulled a card. I pulled a card that you know,
it's like with the well, just it's not like a
card that I just pulled like you know, blindly, like
most most to rods. It's one that that represents like
like the heart.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Oh look at that beautiful Yeah there is all's well
that ends well on that one. Yeah, what do you
get with that?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Well, it's the three of cups, all right, And and
there's literally like like the cornucopia you know of fruit
and vegetables, maybe mostly vegetables. Actually, now I look at it,
although pumpkin is that a vegetable or is it a fruit?
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Because pumpkin pie is pretty easy.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I think it's a vegetable. It is a vegetable, that
is it is squash, right, squash.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, it's like you know, you can't like trick kids
into like, yeah, squash, it's a fruit. It's like a banana.
It's like uh no, it's like it's awful, but as
pie as pumpkin pie. Oh, my god, that's that's THEO
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to die for.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
It's so good Pumpkin pie, isn't it. It was Jessa's favorite,
so I always remember pumpkin pie is Jess's favorite. He
want a pumpkin pie and a July when I was, oh,
well that's a little too early July fourth. Well he'd
loved it.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah, but it's a little I mean, just here, here's
your watermelon.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
He loved pie. It just loves made to make pump
combie because we Jes Stern was a great metaphysical author.
I don't know if everybody knows who he is. And
he he wrote Soulmates and Gosh, the Sleeping Prophet, a
(32:17):
Sleepy Profit, Yeah and Yeah, Casey Yoga Youth, and Reincarnation,
which was a nineteen sixty five bestseller on the New
York List. And that, you know, he's really brought the
Eastern thought into the Western world. I always say, because
(32:38):
he was really on it so much earlier than everybody
else was. And he was a very humble guy. He
didn't take a lot of credit for anything like that.
But I can give him credit because you know, you
look back on the timeline and it's like, whoa he
was on it.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, it's definitely you know in that realm of popular right,
seeing the Eastern thought.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah yeah, and the Beatles brought it into vogue. Yeah,
the Beatles decided, but you know, they weren't paying attention
in their own culture because you know, a lot of
Easter in Indian philosophy was already in England and they
weren't paying attention. But I think that Patty Boyd whispered
(33:23):
into George Harrison's ear, you know, that yoga was becoming
interesting and in New York, and she wanted to go
and explore it. And I think that's from there they
went to India. Yeah, so yeah, So anyway, it's pretty
(33:45):
it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
What would that make like just Stern like the fifth Beetle,
he's the fifth Beatle?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Would we'll be seeing him? I and we'll be seeing
him on the moon. He'll be on there. You know,
I can see Jason sending me out from on his photoshop,
sending me Jess on the moon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Jess.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Well, he did write an Elvis book.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
He did the Spirituality of Elvis. Oh my god, he
did around, all coming around. It is all coming around.
That is hilarious. Oh yeah, that's right, The Spiritual Spirituality
of Elvis. It was not one of his most popular books. Yeah,
(34:34):
it was.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
He was written a little bit more more later too.
Well in the in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
It wasn't even that, you know, because I knew all
of Elvis's guys. You know, they bring me, they'd bring
me canned pickles and all sorts of canned goods. Yeah,
and so uh and they hung out with Jess there.
So it was just really funny to watch all of them.
(35:02):
But yeah, this Spirituality book. You know, everybody wanted Elvis
to be, you know, a singer, and they didn't really
think about his spirituality. They just thought of him as
you know, spiritual period. You know, as far as just
in all of our eyes, he was a spiritual being
(35:26):
just because he lived and did great music. You know,
nobody really almost cared that, you know, what his religion
or what his real thoughts were. I mean, it wasn't
something he preached all the time. He just he just
offered goodwill. And so Jess wrote out some of the stuff,
(35:46):
I guess, and so you know, I have that book.
I don't know if I've read it other than you know,
a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, I read it when it first came out. I've
got a copy of it.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
He he gave me a Jason the Mason like signature.
That's what he inscribed in all his.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Nick names for us.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
All.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yeah, he was very funny. So anyway, I got for
tarot card for today for the you know, maybond is
nine of cups and so nine of cups is all about. Yeah,
it's a wonderful card, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Jay, It's a wish card.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, it's a wish card. So so uh yeah, as
we go into this time where it starts to go
dark again, we are to dream. We're to dream, and
we're to you know, what kind of projects you want
to do upcoming? What kind of uh you know, we
(36:57):
have all the holidays coming, we're supposed to get into
the mood, the mood of being grateful and happy. We
create our own reality every moment of our day. We
create our reality. So we have to be on it.
No more of this being depressed or not including ourselves,
(37:18):
not stepping into it. We have to like, we know
that it's going to be joyful, even if it's just
joyful for us. You're doing it for ourselves. Just be joyful,
because you know that is contagious as people love it.
People love it when we smile or that we're kind,
(37:40):
that we say something nice, or that we're just in
the mood, you know, So definitely try to be in
the mood.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Kindness goes a long ways.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Oh kindness goes a long way. Oh kindness goes a
long way. And how I know how kindness goes a
long way is I invited this new veterinarian up at
the barn that I I met this new veterinarian and
(38:14):
I met the I invited her and the barn manager
so that they wouldn't feel, you know, left out as
far as like not knowing anybody like our big family
for Thanksgiving one year, long time ago, and it'd be
twenty five years ago now. And so the fire happened
(38:36):
in Malibu where my horse, my horses, Bella and Lerica
were in it, and Leerica was very hurt. She was
so hurt that she spent three months in the equine hospital.
And so it all came about because Whitney Cummings. She
(38:57):
decided to go up and check on some of the
animals up in Malibu, and they called a vet in
and she was one of them that was going around
up there with her truck and a horse trailer, and
she put my horse into the horse trailer and she
(39:19):
asked who does this horse belong to? To one guy that
was up there, and he said, I don't know. Uh, oh,
Tara is all I know. That's Tara's horse. And she
said Tara Tara, and she she she didn't have my
phone number, and she didn't remember my last name, but
(39:40):
she remembered that I was a hypnotherapist and a psychic,
and so she looked me up on the internet and
she called my office line and she said, your horse.
I may have your horse in the horse hospital, and
sure enough she did. Yeah. So, And I just always
(40:02):
think it's just so wonderful of my horse, Lerica, because
you know, she's really getting up there now and in age.
And we had a fire the other day and she
doesn't panic. She just waits. And she was like, really
glad I was with her, but she just waits for,
you know, for me to rescue her out of it.
(40:23):
That she's going to be fine. You know, she doesn't
harbor any ill will like some horses would be really
freaked out and they like want to run and stuff.
But she has just such a sweet personality. Knows that
I'll take care of her because I've taken care of
her all her life except that one time she was
in that terrible fire. But she she knows I was
(40:45):
there afterwards. Woof. Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yeah, yeah, that's uh, you know, I'm sure everyone has
examples of where.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
I was kind. I was kind and it came back. Yeah,
yeah came back because I didn't know her. I didn't
use her for a vet, so I didn't know her
at all. And yeah, here here it is. You know,
it was twenty years later and my kindness came back
(41:18):
to me.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
I just remember that way that when she came to
the party, that she dominated the family games afterwards, and
I was upset with her.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Right I remember.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
So if it was white horse, she wouldn't have saved it.
I'm sure Jason, Oh yeah that, Jason, forget this horse.
I'm not saving this horse. Remember him being upset about.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
That?
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Yeah, we love aller Dash as the family. I don't
know what that says about anybody teaching the little kids
how to lie.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
To have fun with words.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Yeah, it was really having fun with We really had fun.
I mean I would be course the next day and
sometimes I would lose my voice a couple of days
in because I would be laughing so hard for so
many days. We had so much fun. We'd play as
big groups. Yeah, no, god, those were really fun. I've
(42:17):
been thinking, I really want a family Zoom where everybody
gets on Zoom and plays balder Dash, but everybody would
have to have their own game. You know. I'm trying
to think it out like how it could actually go.
But you know, we haven't had a you know, get
(42:37):
together for a while, so I was like, yeah, we
need a bolder dash. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
There always with our cousins. Yeah, there are always ways.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Yeah, yeah, to.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Do things like through you know, the the internet, you know.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah it can.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
It gets tricky, but no, it gets tricky.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
It gets tricky. And the part where you pick a
word from your card because you have the deck too,
and so from your card is to give it to
everybody except for that person who's not supposed to hear it.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
So so you would go through your chat and you
could do like the specific people.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Yeah, and then you blind us that one might.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Walk the person that's not supposed.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
To know, Okay, that's yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I guess isn't this like everyone listening can go, oh
my god, that's yeah. We can do this, right, we
can do this.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Yeah, maybe I should do it. It's like a fun, fun night.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Maybe maybe for your birthday.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah, for my birthday. That's my birthday party. That would
be a good birthday, all right, good anyway, Yeah, the
wish card, the wish card talking to you to all
your friends and family today about what what was their
favorite summer memories because I have so many. You know,
I got to eat so much wonderful cheese in France,
(44:06):
you know, stuff like that, like oh yeah, right, Cheyenne
got married and it was such a beautiful, amazing ceremony.
They did such a good job. I mean we yeah,
it just all it. It was just so much fun. So,
you know, I had a really great summer. But but
I had to put off the traveling because I've been trying.
(44:30):
I was in such perpetual motion that and I was
taking all my clients like wherever I went. But it
was just like, okay, wait a minute, you know, Terra,
you really have to get be home for a while.
And so, you know, because I was in such perpetual
motion going forward.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Yeah. So so with.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
The I've been invited everywhere since.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
With winter, like you know, it's like you know at
the stage, but also you know it's the again what
what we call like the darkness, right that comes up
where the sun you know, pulls back, it does its thing,
so that we go into that that season where you know,
(45:17):
things start to kind of hibernate and and you know,
over a slower period, right, I mean we're not there yet, no,
just just because it turns you know.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Well it depends on where you live. Because we were
raised in Alaska, so it was dark in December.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Well this in December it was you know, it was
all dark.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Well it did start to get.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Cold though in September, you know, I mean where it
was like forty degrees and it's just like what it
was like, you know, our heat wave of seventy degrees
and having to go like into the thirties and all that.
I was like, God, it's just September. Yeah, all right,
(46:05):
if you've like now I'm having like you know, my
PTSD of like you know, living in Alaska, so.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
I mean I had a great gun there, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Pulling the scabs off.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
All my best friends from there. Yeah, silly. All our
fun cousins up there too. We were talking about them earlier.
We were talking about them. Who was wasn't it you
and I? So me and Amy?
Speaker 2 (46:40):
I think it was you and Amy? Yeah, our sister. Yeah, yeah,
because I I don't think it was me.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Oh yeah, oh no, it was me and Willie. It
was me and Willie. Yeah, me and Willie. Because Willie
used to say when I was teaching Kelly how to drive,
he'd say, because we call her bun Bun because her
dad was Uncle Bunny, so she was bun Bun anyway,
(47:08):
So Willie at two, no pun pun drive, No bun
Bun drive, and everybody of the family, you know, because
we had so many family members up there, we'll go
what what what do you mean? No bun bun drive?
You know. I was like, God, thank god, I can't
(47:29):
talk much. He's gonna tell everybody I'm teaching her how
to drive, like all right. It was really funny. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
So yeah, anyway, what's interesting with the cups coming up
to you know, like the Three of Cups, the Nine
of Cups, Yeah, the Cups, the the.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Not every deck does this, you know, but the cups
generally they can represent autumn, you know, seasonally, and it's
like the the cups they represent, you know, are our
emotional self, but also how it is that we connect
with others too, and and it does feel like it's
(48:23):
it sets the stage too to stay connected, you know,
as like once the harvest is over right, it's like
you know, the then the celebrations, the time of the
feasts and all. You know, these these are important times
(48:45):
because it feels like, you know, culturally anyway, it's like
there's there's like the feasting on this end of it,
and then kind of the fasting and all that kind
of on the on the other end of the calendar,
you know, like in the winter months and stuff like that,
you know until until the spring and and when the
(49:10):
the growth and all that, when that resumes. It's a
it's pretty interesting how like cyclic cyclically, you know, we
we get into these uh, celebration modes. You know that
it's like, okay, you know, the the the autumn is
(49:31):
is kind of like heavy heavy like feasting and in celebration.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
I had a real shamanic dream to two days ago.
So I'm usually two days out when I dream so
it's today that it kind of comes into fruition and
maybe it has something to do with Maibon. But it
was about a feast and a lot of people coming together.
But it was an India and uh it had a
(50:03):
Buddhist There was a Buddhist monk there, you know, and
I know that the Buddhist monks are sometimes there in
some parts of India. And and there was somebody coming
in and maybe it was Siam, because I dream about
Siam all the time, Old Sam, which is now uh Thailand, No,
(50:27):
it's behind Thailand. Uh, it's by it's behind well, I
don't know, I have to Uh it starts with a
bee anyway, Burma, Burma, Burma. Anyway, I usually dream about
(50:48):
old Siam, and uh, so maybe it's old Siam actually
because it was uh there was somebody dressed in maroon
with a kind of a on, and then it was
in the front of this entourage was a Buddhist monk
(51:13):
and it was kind of a ceremony coming in into
this big place where all these people were, and it
was very it was just really interesting, and the monk
was blessing everyone as they came around. So it was
just really interesting that I was blessed and so many
(51:35):
people were blessed. Even Cheyenne and Alex were there in
my dream and I got blessed, you know, so it's
just sell these blessings. I thought, Wow, this is so interesting. Yeah,
so I woke up, you know, with this beautiful shamanic dream.
But I haven't really deciphered it all the way yet,
but yeah, yeah, it was probably Siam if I think
(51:58):
about it. Yeah, Old Sam Burma, thank you Jason for
being my brain. It's a good brain anyway I could brag.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Yeah, except my brain had a dream where I had
a meeting with a meeting scheduled with Arnold Schwarzenegger, and
I was went up to his house and it's like
the oh, it's like the front gate is open, you know,
it's propped open. So I walked through, but there was
another gate and there was like a like a guard
or you know, someone kind of watching that. And then
they were like they ran my name through a list
(52:37):
and it was like, well, it's like it seems like you,
you like, are on this this list for like, you know,
being a troublemaker or something from the last time you
were here. And and in my dream. I was thinking,
Oh yeah, like the last time I was here, there
was like some kind of like scuffle that someone started,
but I didn't. I wasn't involved, but they put my name.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
I was just kind of there, and so my name
got on the list, and so you know, it's kind
of I'm like, I was like banned from coming in
to see the Great Arnold, you know, the list because
I was on the wrong list. I was on the
naughty list as opposed to the nice list. So you know,
(53:25):
it was that's where my brain went this morning.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
So that's really that there's.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
No Jason here on the on the property you get out.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Yeah, really they didn't want the Wizard.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
Go back to California.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
Wasn't he in California?
Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yeah? Probably, It's just.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
We hadn't decide for that one to anyway. Yeah, that's
where it is. Thatly well, happy happy May on everybody,
Happy fall, Equinox Autumn it has come. So Jason, where
can they find you?
Speaker 2 (54:17):
My website? Jason d McKean, m C. Excuse me, I
need some water. It's that that's that dream.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
The start over place.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Okay, Take two, Jason d McKean, j A. S. O.
N D as in Dragon Lord McKean m c k
a N dot com and uh on Facebook Jason D.
McKean and on Instagram Jason Tarot wizard. Yes, I just
got a new a new hat. It is that hashtag
(54:59):
wizard on the on the crown there in the front
baseball hat. Yeah, so take that arnold.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
Hashtag wizard, hashtag wizards.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Anyway, how about where people find you?
Speaker 1 (55:17):
Well, let's see, I've been changing things around for me
and I decided to get another phone number, so you
can call that at three one zero three zero three
eight one eight eight. And for the horse sessions, the
(55:39):
horse therapy, and also any sort of hypno therapy, and
if you want to text all the prices, we can
do that. And also, uh, you know, psychic readings of
course half an hour and an hour and yeah, and
(56:01):
then there's lots say hypnothesia. We do hypnothesia too. I
do it with an MD and he's fabulous. And we
put you under into a light light I think they
call it twilight and then or a little light sleep,
and then I give you suggestions. So if you really
can't do things sometimes, you know, like success, get over
(56:25):
your blocks or whatever, these blocks are that you have
in your life. You know we can I can help
with giving you those suggestions. Also, you can Tara appointment
at gmail dot com. You can get me on all
social media Tara Suttfin s U t p h e
(56:47):
N Tara Sutfin and my Instagram is Tara Underscore Insight.
But I'm on everything Tara as Tara sutfon. You can
find me around on on X and Twitter, oh the
old Twitter, and TikTok Instagram, Facebook. I have lots of
(57:10):
Facebook pages because I ran into being at five thousand
and two thousand and nine, so I have to too
and and then the other pages, but as this one,
this one is like the fourth page or something, so
that we put this podcast on.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
You to have like dance videos up on like TikTok.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
No, I don't have dance thons. I should, I should
have dance songs, but I should good, you should definitely good. Yeah. Yeah.
So anyway, happy beautiful fall, Equinox. Thank you for being
(57:56):
on the show. Jason, I love you.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
I love you too. Happy Autumn to everyone.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
Mm hmm, okay, blessings everybody. Okay, let's go on
Welcome to Transformations with Tara. This is Tarah Sutton and
my guest and co host is Jason D. McCain. And
he's been the voice of over a million home recordings
throughout the world. Yes and yes, so Jason, welcome to
(00:25):
the show. He is a author these days, a reverend.
He teaches all over the world. He is the own
Tara Wizard. He's awesome.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Thanks Tarah, thank you, thank you. And you know, it's
it's always a privilege to uh to be here and
to uh, you know, talk about all things spiritual.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yes, all things spiritual. It's great. So today we're going
to talk about autumn cornucopia. And so it is Maybawn,
the fall equinox, Yeah, the autumn equinox. So today is
the first day of fall, and it is the time
(01:15):
of that darkness starts in the world, in our world
in the Northern hemisphere. Actually it's the time of light
in the Southern hemisphere, but for us up here in
the Northern Hemisphere, it is the time of darkness.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
I've been noticing that too. I mean, have you like
just kind of your own internal clock, like like when
you when it's like six o'clock here and it's starting
to get dark, and it's like it feels like it's
what nine o'clock.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
Now, because it's yeah, getting chillier and everything. And we
were so hot in Los Angeles this summer that I mean, gosh,
it was just crazy temperatures. And now we're all of
a sudden, it's just like overnight, it went to chili weather.
So it snowed yesterday and big bear what Yeah it
(02:11):
was it was hail, really, but it was it was
an inch thick. Yeah. I thought, oh, but I don't
have my ranch up there anymore. It's lay out, yeah,
pelting down hall. Yeah. But I you know, I've loved
everywhere I've lived.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
I definitely went from from T shirt and shorts to
long sleeves and pants.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, the cold, but it came on just like that.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
You know.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
It's just like the overnight.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yes, just like that.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And not to say that we won't have our one
hundred degree days again, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Yeah, there's supposed to be a few ninety plus days
next week. But which was weird because we've gone into
the fall season and you know, I have to deal
with heat like that.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I know, it's like we're already prepped for Yeah, for autumn.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Yes, yeah, we're all getting into the autumn mood, aren't we. Yeah, yeah,
the autumn colors and Halloween will be coming up, which
is so wonderful, always so much fun.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
It's it's one of my funnest times of years.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Funnest, it's fun the best, is the funniest.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Bestest, it's the betterest, loveliest. Yeah, time of year. Yeah,
is uh this Helloween? You know, it's funny. I was
I was talking to a a son of a friend.
That almost sounds like kind of naughty you, son of
a friend. But but Halloween it's a it's a time
(03:54):
to like take on like an alter ego. Right, it's
usually your one person like three hundred and sixty four
days out of the year, but on Halloween you get to,
you know, be be that magical being or the superhero
or the you know, express a different side of yourself.
And and so he he was like telling me about
(04:16):
you know what what he uh, you know, like to
do and it and you know it's for me. It's like,
you know, I'm I'm the Wizard, like three hundred and
sixty four days out of the year, so you know
who am I like on that that one that one day?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
You know, It's like, right, used to be so he
used to be the same thing.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
When I was working at the Queen Mary and all
during the Dark Harbor season. Yeah, I'd be like still
you know, the fortune teller. But but now it's uh,
you know, I can I can be anonymous, all right.
It can just kind of like maybe I just hide out,
take a.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Day off, right, I don't know. This year it falls
on Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I heard, well, how is that possible? Oh?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Not Friday the thirteenth? What was it? What was it?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I saw a meme the other day where it's like, oh,
you know, for the first time in a long time,
Halloween falls on Friday the thirteenth.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Yeah what that? Oh I did I see? I fell
for it too, Yeah, right, go that.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Is so weird. Oh and my name is.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
The thirty first nah.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
Right, it's just like yeah, inverted a little bit. But
it does fall on a.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Friday, right I must Yeah, I haven't checked.
Speaker 2 (05:35):
I haven't checked either.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
I mean, is that a full moon? Maybe? No, it's
not a full moon either. Yeah, that doesn't seem it's not.
It's not. Everybody not a full moon. No, I mean
I can tell you when the full moon is. It's
right here in my ephemeris. Yeah, yeah, okay, my femoris, right,
(05:58):
buy my right there on your right here on my desk, right.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
See the full moon behind you, yeah, the.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Fall moon behind me. Let's see. The full moon is
going to be the seventeenth. It's going to be twenty
four degrees aries full moon. Yeah, so seventeenth, and then
the new moon is on the second with an annular eclipse,
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which remember you know the Native Americans, they always use
the shadows of the moon, the solar eclipses. They would
stay inside, they would never let them like see them
feel them. But in you know, really Celtic folklore and stuff,
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it's more the it's the time of gifts that whatever
is going out is going to gift to you. There's
a gift. So solar eclipse are always great. Lunar eclips
not so much. You should choose what you want going out. Yeah,
and so we just had lunar eclips yeah.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Yeah, it's like we were out in uh in Los Angeles,
who were out in Beverly Hills. Actually we were walking around.
We're strolling around with with Ananda dog and it was
like just like a little bit of like a taken
the like there was a bite taken out at the top. Okay,
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that's that.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Was like the right because it was only a partial.
It was a partial, and I thought it was I
mean it was Elvis. Elvis came sailo that it looked
like a face and looked like it's a smile and
looked like dark hair. And it was like, hey, so
(08:00):
now I was sighting.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
How you doing here to look shrine my glory upon.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You upon the world.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Or just you right, it's like, you know we can
like that. I just see Elvis. That's just for me.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
I was, yeah, like somebody like, oh my god, who's
projecting themselves on the moon. That'd be the next thing.
We'll see projections on the moon, Like they're going to
put put a movie.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Well yeah, I mean why not. It's like but it'll
be advertising. You know, it's like the Moon brought to
you by McDonald's. I'm loving it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
You know, right right, that's hilarious.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Well it's not until until we ban it, you know,
for being like too crass.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, well they should leave the moon alone and you know,
keep it, keep it going. Nicely for our orbit.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
That's right. No one touched the moon.
Speaker 1 (09:10):
Well, they used to bomb the moon. No doing it.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Don't do it, don't do it, don't do it.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Yeah, and we want the moon to be our beautiful
spotlight for the world, that's right. Yeah, yeah, no. I
just remember when I was in I was at the
Strawberry Festival, which is uh and there was a full
moon and Strawberry Festival. It had to be like fifteen
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years ago, and it was up in Yosemite and we
all were all camping and a lot of grateful deadheads
would come up for the Strawberry Festival, and so some
deadhead was saying to somebody that Jerry Garcia was left
there in the moon, and do you see it? And
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it was just like riveted by really okay, So that's
why the Alvis joke.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
It was, well, but you could have, like, you know,
said that's not Jerry Garcia, that's Elvis.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
That looks like dark hair, and it was like, well,
there you go, Elvis.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
It's like his pompa kind of.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah yeah, kind of yeah, okay. So I just thought, oh,
there you go.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Was it young Elvis or was it seventies Elvis?
Speaker 1 (10:29):
I don't know, Jason, it was probably just him, right,
you can take your pick of what year it was. Yeah,
what part of his life? What would he wants you
to see? What? Who would he want you to Which.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Version of Elvis?
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Right?
Speaker 2 (10:49):
This was the eclipse? Maybe that's a poll that you like,
you know, like you have on your social media.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
That's a picture you see Elvis is posing on the moon? Right?
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Or is this suspicious minds Elvis?
Speaker 1 (11:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (11:12):
So anyway, how did we get on that topic?
Speaker 1 (11:16):
The moon?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Oh, the moon?
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Jerry Garcia.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Wasn't that like folk folk music? Like the Strawberry Festival?
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah, it was kind of folk music. Yeah, folk music,
alternative folk music. Yeah, yeah, Okay, I'm sure they still
do it, right, I don't know. But it's beautiful. It
was beautiful Yosemite, and it was the greatest camping I swear.
I mean we would set up tents for us and
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the kids, you know, I was married at the time,
and uh, and then we'd go instead of having to
cook our food and everything, we'd go to the cappuccino
truck in the morning. You just take a stroll and
get your breakfast, whatever kind of breakfast you wanted, because
there was about five trucks out there that you got
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to choose from.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
So no camping or cooking over the fire now a campfire.
Speaker 1 (12:20):
No, you you went and you had your food, and yeah,
it was just so nice. It was really camping. It was.
It was great camping.
Speaker 2 (12:30):
Its glaming.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
It was clamping, clamping at it's very finest. Yeah, where
you know you slept on an air mattress and in
the tent and oh yeah, no, it was great.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
That was like on the valley floor of Yosemite.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Uh no, it was right at like right before you
got to Yosemite, like the North Gate. It would be
right before that, some meadow lands or something. I don't
know what it was called even I can't, you know,
I don't remember that far back, although I have lots
of pictures and lots of so I'm sure I, you know,
have it archived.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I think they think if we take photos and stuff,
if we take video, then we don't have to like
store it in our heads so much now.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
And it was fun, but you know it was I
was going along as a good wye you know they
he liked great folk music and stuff.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
So yeah, all right, change of subject. As far as
the cornucopia right atom where it's like, you know, they
say that the equinox, the autumn equinox, it's a it's
a time of balance, of transformation, but also one where
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you know, one it looks back to see what they've
accomplished and all. And you know, I think that that
one can if they're if they're pleased, right, they can celebrate,
you know, with with their accomplishments. That that time of
you know, just generally like acknowledging your your progress in life.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
Well it's a time of feasts too, you know, you're
feasting on all the sabbots. They're just really fun that way.
And so these holy days, which are considered holy days,
they're just the movements of our natural world. All the moon,
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all the you know how it goes in each of
its phases. As you see it behind me, and so
you know, the the it gets less and less light.
So we're in the you know, going to celebrate the summer.
And your summer celebration comes in as what did you
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have as the best time this summer? You know, and
I know that I have great memories of this summer.
I had an incredible summer.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
It's like that crazy essay that time when you'd come
back into school and you'd write about, you know, what
you did on your summer vacation. Yeah, so so what
do you celebrate from from your summer?
Speaker 1 (15:23):
What do I celebrate from my summer right now? As
far as what was the great, well, you know, I
went on a trip across the US with Everest, my
grand angel, and then I and we hit We hit
nine states, but then Cheyenne came home from France and
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so she her and I we went to five more
states and to Canada. Plus I went to France and
Switzerland and England too this summer. So it was just
like you know, okay, yeah, I mean I was traveling.
I traveled and then went to Tennessee too, So I
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don't know how many states I was.
Speaker 2 (16:10):
In time spending that quality time with your here with
with evereston.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
Oh my gosh. She never asked, not once. Everest did
not ask are we there yet? Not once? Yeah, I
but I try to make it a kid friendly, like
we're gonna stop here, let's look on the map, let's
look at there. Let's you know, you're you're in charge
of the radio. So there was a good radio Segnal
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all the way and she's really cute about what music
she likes, and so, you know, I she was in
charge of the radio. I gave her that to be
in charge, and she just loved it. We had a blast,
just a blast. We get really well anyway, but oh
my gosh, we just had such a great time.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
Can you imagine our our dad like saying, okay, whatever
you want to listen to on the radio, I'm okay
with that. He would have like jettisoned himself out out
of the car while driving. You know, well if you
had to.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
Listen to our music, right, yeah? That and then and
then I then Cheyenne her and my trip too was
absolutely fabulous. And then on top of that, we stayed
five days with my Malibu girlfriends in Idaho. One of
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my friends has a beautiful house up there on a lake,
and so we went out on the pontoon boat and
you know, it's eleven hundred feet deep, and Mary put
her foot on my back and pushed me into the
lake because you know, people are that comfortable with you
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just have fun to get in the water another water
because I was like it's eleven hundred feet huh, And
you're like, yeah, anyway. Yeah, but it was nice and warm.
It wasn't too cold even and which was nice. And
then we all went on a we went on a
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bike bike tour the Hiawatha Trail, and I don't know
if anybody's been on the Hiawatha Trail, but it is fantastic.
If you ride a bike. It is very, very dark.
The only thing that I wish I had known before
is to take a headlamp on a like a beanie
or something, because the train tunnels are very cold, and
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one is one point six miles long and you can't
see a blasted thing. They just have a little bike
light and there it's you can only see if you're
going to run into a pothole or something. Yeah, and
there's two moats of water on the sides of you,
and so it's very it's you know, I mean, I'm
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sure people spill and you know, don't do well having
a bike accident. But it was fun last and you
get all muddy and then and you go over all
the trestles and all over the the caves, you know,
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the tunnels, and you know it's I think there's ten
tunnels and you have to go through the one point
six mile tunnel twice. Yeah, so because what happens is
you go through it, you go all the way down
to a place where then you catch a bus and
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you go all the way back up. But it's before
that big long tunnel again, and it's and then you're
on the cliff sides, you know. I mean I remember
it well, you know, like being in Denali in Alaska.
You look down the mountain, it's like, great, we're in
a school bus in the mountain road road.
Speaker 2 (20:18):
On a like a one lane roads.
Speaker 1 (20:22):
You know, right, but you've made it. Yeah, you've made
it there. So you figure out you know, it's going
to be great, and it's great. So then you go
back through it's oh wonderful. Really, we had a blast.
I would recommend it to anybody who rides a bike.
Yeah yeah, but you have to know how to ride
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a bike for sure, because it's it's miles miles miles
in my mountain biking.
Speaker 2 (20:51):
Shape. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
Well, it's in the mountains. It's like seven thousand feet
or something. Yeah, I say, it's not exactly, it's it's
uh yeah, you should be in it was a Montana.
We went to Montana, did that. Yeah, so yeah, the
high water trail. Yeah but fun, yeah, say you did it,
and yeah, yeah I liked it. And dear you saw
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some wildlife. Wouldn't wanted sandy bears, but we did see bear.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
That's why you didn't have the light in the tunnel there,
so that you didn't see the bears lighting.
Speaker 1 (21:27):
Yeahsides, you know, right coming to get it drink right,
oh yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
Now I know, just so like, oh, thank you, I know.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
And luckily there's like a little waterfall as you come
out of the tunnel because we're all like in it,
you know, like trying to get all the mud off
of us, you know, we're Yeah, but it was a
great day because it was July, so it wasn't too cold,
wasn't too hot, you know up there in the mountains
that high yeh yeh.
Speaker 2 (21:56):
Seven thousand feet though that that's you know, just with
your own and breathing and stuff. If you're you know,
not used to being acclimated to that well.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Blood pressure everything, you have to be careful yeah, yeah, yeah,
because you're going to exert some energy, especially be in
that dark tunnel. All of a sudden, I'm like, because
you know, you don't see the tunnel, you don't see
the light on the other side. You know it curves
and stuff. Yeah, you don't see nothing. You don't see
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what's along the walls or anything. Nothing. Yeah, you're in
like darkness with just a little time light. And then
you know they were returning too, so you have to
watch out that. You know, it's two lane highway people
coming at you with their little teensy light and uh yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, hopefully it's it's working on on their their bike,
right right.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, Well it has to because otherwise I don't think
you could get through it unless you went with like
a group of people that you could see there and
who waited for you. Yeah. Yeah, if you had one
of those headlamps or would like just seeing the light
in the beanie, you know, that would really help, I think.
(23:18):
But yeah, because I would have liked a fullow lamp. Yeah,
I got have seen the walls, you know, because you
could only see the walls. Every once in a while
if there was like somebody coming at you and you
could kind of see the other side of the wall,
or and you could see the water because there's there
was water trenches on each side, so you know, you
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don't only had so much room for to maneuver the
bike in the dark with people coming at you and
you know there's no nine one one is going to
be a long time, so yeah you should. Yeah, it
was fine. We had a bus.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
We related, so so your summer vacation that that was
like it sounded like amazing.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
Yeah, And then we went into Canada. We went to
Travis's house and then Travis talked me and is bringing
his dog home? So I the dog took the whole roads,
rip back, whishy anime. Yeah, it's pretty funny.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Yeah. So so like when you think back about it,
right as far as like taking like the again that
that gratitude and being able to like synthesize that right
right to integrate it. And you know, I think we
do that sometimes for UH. We converted into fuel for
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for the next adventure, so that we stay open to
you know, what what's ahead, what's.
Speaker 1 (24:59):
U you know, yeah, that's the hell. So what it
was your it should be, you know, not just my.
I went on and on about my.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Yes you did. Mine. Mine is a little bit more abbreviated,
but you know, it's like in the in the realm
of UH work or what I call the work, which
is you know, the the spiritual gatherings, the the workshops,
the you know, it's like I've I've been doing new
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things everything from a once a month Tarot salon in
Venice to the spiritual mentoring classes with my my friend
colleague Tracy Brown, where we work with with people on
helping them connect with their own spiritual source and and
(25:57):
to expand in in their own their own gifts, you know,
and and to not just make it about a modality
where it's to row or mediumship or or whatever, but
to get to the real foundational aspects of spirituality. And
you know too, to be in that is it's like
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it's it's very foundational. You know. It just kind of
gets you connected, reconnected to what's at your own core
so that you know, you can kind of expand on
that to be more adventurous for you know, the next
opportunity that is showing up, you know, so that that's
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that's mainly you know what I'm very uh, you know,
grateful for, are these these experiences of of how the
work changes up, you know, how it's not just the
same routine, How how one just gets into a comfortable groove,
you know, and then you're just coasting in that, and
(27:06):
then all of a sudden you're in a rut because
it's like, God, I'm just doing the same thing over
and over and over and over, and I'm not I'm
not challenging, challenging myself. I'm not growing. And it's important
to grow. It's important to to to change it up
so that you're not just in the in the same
(27:27):
you know, just that that grind, you know, because that's
what anything, even if we love it, it will, you know,
will get too comfortable in that sameness of it, and
then it will start to get at us.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
You know.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
It's like it's like relationships, right, It's like, you know,
find ways to you know, take a really great connection
and and you know, change it up, you know, from
time to time, do some different things, you know, you know,
go out to a different restaurant, you know, rather than
the same restaurant every yek you know, Friday night or whatever.
(28:08):
You know, it's like it's okay to change things up
a little bit and to not get get stuck. Don't
get stuck. Don't get stuck.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
Yes, it's not to get stuck for sure. Well, and
it's always good to you know, keep up the romance
because we get so tied down into doing you know,
the same things, same routines. But well, definitely I did
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the past the twenty one days this summer as far
as breaking routines for sure, but uh yeah, and on
the road. But it was great.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, And you know, it's it's not always an easy
thing to do. You know, it's like sometimes we just
have to see what it is that we can do
and just kind of right, you know, find the point
of difference or a point of departure from again, like
a routine that you know, sometimes we need to be
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in a place of discipline, you know, where we're you know,
heading towards a specific goal. You know, sometimes we can't
allow ourselves to break from that so that we can
get that that one goal done. And there's there's there's
no you know, judgment on that, right but oh yeah,
you know, if if we're you know, in that place
(29:35):
of either redefining what what our goal is, if if
we're needing to enhance it, you know, sometimes we need
to have these these places of where we can see
it clearly. And and sometimes that's like just kind of
stepping out of the habit or the pattern that that
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would keep us locked in to be doing the same
thing over and over and you know, being able to
see it from another viewpoint and and then kind of
reconnect with it as needed.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Yeah, yes, yeah, so.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I pulled a card. I pulled a card that you know,
it's like with the well, just it's not like a
card that I just pulled like you know, blindly, like
most most to rods. It's one that that represents like
like the heart.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
Oh look at that beautiful Yeah there is all's well
that ends well on that one. Yeah, what do you
get with that?
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Well, it's the three of cups, all right, And and
there's literally like like the cornucopia you know of fruit
and vegetables, maybe mostly vegetables. Actually, now I look at it,
although pumpkin is that a vegetable or is it a fruit?
(31:05):
Because pumpkin pie is pretty easy.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
I think it's a vegetable. It is a vegetable, that
is it is squash, right, squash.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
Yeah, it's like you know, you can't like trick kids
into like, yeah, squash, it's a fruit. It's like a banana.
It's like uh no, it's like it's awful, but as
pie as pumpkin pie. Oh, my god, that's that's THEO
(31:35):
to die for.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
It's so good Pumpkin pie, isn't it. It was Jessa's favorite,
so I always remember pumpkin pie is Jess's favorite. He
want a pumpkin pie and a July when I was, oh,
well that's a little too early July fourth. Well he'd
loved it.
Speaker 2 (31:53):
Yeah, but it's a little I mean, just here, here's
your watermelon.
Speaker 1 (31:57):
He loved pie. It just loves made to make pump
combie because we Jes Stern was a great metaphysical author.
I don't know if everybody knows who he is. And
he he wrote Soulmates and Gosh, the Sleeping Prophet, a
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Sleepy Profit, Yeah and Yeah, Casey Yoga Youth, and Reincarnation,
which was a nineteen sixty five bestseller on the New
York List. And that, you know, he's really brought the
Eastern thought into the Western world. I always say, because
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he was really on it so much earlier than everybody
else was. And he was a very humble guy. He
didn't take a lot of credit for anything like that.
But I can give him credit because you know, you
look back on the timeline and it's like, whoa he
was on it.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, it's definitely you know in that realm of popular right,
seeing the Eastern thought.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah yeah, and the Beatles brought it into vogue. Yeah,
the Beatles decided, but you know, they weren't paying attention
in their own culture because you know, a lot of
Easter in Indian philosophy was already in England and they
weren't paying attention. But I think that Patty Boyd whispered
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into George Harrison's ear, you know, that yoga was becoming
interesting and in New York, and she wanted to go
and explore it. And I think that's from there they
went to India. Yeah, so yeah, So anyway, it's pretty
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it's pretty interesting.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
What would that make like just Stern like the fifth Beetle,
he's the fifth Beatle?
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Would we'll be seeing him? I and we'll be seeing
him on the moon. He'll be on there. You know,
I can see Jason sending me out from on his photoshop,
sending me Jess on the moon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. Jess.
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Well, he did write an Elvis book.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
He did the Spirituality of Elvis. Oh my god, he
did around, all coming around. It is all coming around.
That is hilarious. Oh yeah, that's right, The Spiritual Spirituality
of Elvis. It was not one of his most popular books. Yeah,
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it was.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
He was written a little bit more more later too.
Well in the in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
It wasn't even that, you know, because I knew all
of Elvis's guys. You know, they bring me, they'd bring
me canned pickles and all sorts of canned goods. Yeah,
and so uh and they hung out with Jess there.
So it was just really funny to watch all of them.
(35:02):
But yeah, this Spirituality book. You know, everybody wanted Elvis
to be, you know, a singer, and they didn't really
think about his spirituality. They just thought of him as
you know, spiritual period. You know, as far as just
in all of our eyes, he was a spiritual being
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just because he lived and did great music. You know,
nobody really almost cared that, you know, what his religion
or what his real thoughts were. I mean, it wasn't
something he preached all the time. He just he just
offered goodwill. And so Jess wrote out some of the stuff,
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I guess, and so you know, I have that book.
I don't know if I've read it other than you know,
a long time ago.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, I read it when it first came out. I've
got a copy of it.
Speaker 1 (35:59):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
He he gave me a Jason the Mason like signature.
That's what he inscribed in all his.
Speaker 1 (36:10):
Nick names for us.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
All.
Speaker 1 (36:12):
Yeah, he was very funny. So anyway, I got for
tarot card for today for the you know, maybond is
nine of cups and so nine of cups is all about. Yeah,
it's a wonderful card, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
Jay, It's a wish card.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, it's a wish card. So so uh yeah, as
we go into this time where it starts to go
dark again, we are to dream. We're to dream, and
we're to you know, what kind of projects you want
to do upcoming? What kind of uh you know, we
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have all the holidays coming, we're supposed to get into
the mood, the mood of being grateful and happy. We
create our own reality every moment of our day. We
create our reality. So we have to be on it.
No more of this being depressed or not including ourselves,
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not stepping into it. We have to like, we know
that it's going to be joyful, even if it's just
joyful for us. You're doing it for ourselves. Just be joyful,
because you know that is contagious as people love it.
People love it when we smile or that we're kind,
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that we say something nice, or that we're just in
the mood, you know, So definitely try to be in
the mood.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
Kindness goes a long ways.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
Oh kindness goes a long way. Oh kindness goes a
long way. And how I know how kindness goes a
long way is I invited this new veterinarian up at
the barn that I I met this new veterinarian and
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I met the I invited her and the barn manager
so that they wouldn't feel, you know, left out as
far as like not knowing anybody like our big family
for Thanksgiving one year, long time ago, and it'd be
twenty five years ago now. And so the fire happened
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in Malibu where my horse, my horses, Bella and Lerica
were in it, and Leerica was very hurt. She was
so hurt that she spent three months in the equine hospital.
And so it all came about because Whitney Cummings. She
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decided to go up and check on some of the
animals up in Malibu, and they called a vet in
and she was one of them that was going around
up there with her truck and a horse trailer, and
she put my horse into the horse trailer and she
(39:19):
asked who does this horse belong to? To one guy that
was up there, and he said, I don't know. Uh, oh,
Tara is all I know. That's Tara's horse. And she
said Tara Tara, and she she she didn't have my
phone number, and she didn't remember my last name, but
(39:40):
she remembered that I was a hypnotherapist and a psychic,
and so she looked me up on the internet and
she called my office line and she said, your horse.
I may have your horse in the horse hospital, and
sure enough she did. Yeah. So, And I just always
(40:02):
think it's just so wonderful of my horse, Lerica, because
you know, she's really getting up there now and in age.
And we had a fire the other day and she
doesn't panic. She just waits. And she was like, really
glad I was with her, but she just waits for,
you know, for me to rescue her out of it.
(40:23):
That she's going to be fine. You know, she doesn't
harbor any ill will like some horses would be really
freaked out and they like want to run and stuff.
But she has just such a sweet personality. Knows that
I'll take care of her because I've taken care of
her all her life except that one time she was
in that terrible fire. But she she knows I was
(40:45):
there afterwards. Woof. Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
Yeah, yeah, that's uh, you know, I'm sure everyone has
examples of where.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
I was kind. I was kind and it came back. Yeah,
yeah came back because I didn't know her. I didn't
use her for a vet, so I didn't know her
at all. And yeah, here here it is. You know,
it was twenty years later and my kindness came back
(41:18):
to me.
Speaker 2 (41:20):
I just remember that way that when she came to
the party, that she dominated the family games afterwards, and
I was upset with her.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
Right I remember.
Speaker 2 (41:30):
So if it was white horse, she wouldn't have saved it.
I'm sure Jason, Oh yeah that, Jason, forget this horse.
I'm not saving this horse. Remember him being upset about.
Speaker 3 (41:44):
That?
Speaker 1 (41:46):
Yeah, we love aller Dash as the family. I don't
know what that says about anybody teaching the little kids
how to lie.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
To have fun with words.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
Yeah, it was really having fun with We really had fun.
I mean I would be course the next day and
sometimes I would lose my voice a couple of days
in because I would be laughing so hard for so
many days. We had so much fun. We'd play as
big groups. Yeah, no, god, those were really fun. I've
(42:17):
been thinking, I really want a family Zoom where everybody
gets on Zoom and plays balder Dash, but everybody would
have to have their own game. You know. I'm trying
to think it out like how it could actually go.
But you know, we haven't had a you know, get
(42:37):
together for a while, so I was like, yeah, we
need a bolder dash. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
There always with our cousins. Yeah, there are always ways.
Speaker 1 (42:47):
Yeah, yeah, to.
Speaker 2 (42:50):
Do things like through you know, the the internet, you know.
Speaker 1 (42:54):
Yeah, yeah, yeah it can.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
It gets tricky, but no, it gets tricky.
Speaker 1 (42:59):
It gets tricky. And the part where you pick a
word from your card because you have the deck too,
and so from your card is to give it to
everybody except for that person who's not supposed to hear it.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
So so you would go through your chat and you
could do like the specific people.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Yeah, and then you blind us that one might.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Walk the person that's not supposed.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
To know, Okay, that's yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
I guess isn't this like everyone listening can go, oh
my god, that's yeah. We can do this, right, we
can do this.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
Yeah, maybe I should do it. It's like a fun, fun night.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
Maybe maybe for your birthday.
Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah, for my birthday. That's my birthday party. That would
be a good birthday, all right, good anyway, Yeah, the
wish card, the wish card talking to you to all
your friends and family today about what what was their
favorite summer memories because I have so many. You know,
I got to eat so much wonderful cheese in France,
(44:06):
you know, stuff like that, like oh yeah, right, Cheyenne
got married and it was such a beautiful, amazing ceremony.
They did such a good job. I mean we yeah,
it just all it. It was just so much fun. So,
you know, I had a really great summer. But but
I had to put off the traveling because I've been trying.
(44:30):
I was in such perpetual motion that and I was
taking all my clients like wherever I went. But it
was just like, okay, wait a minute, you know, Terra,
you really have to get be home for a while.
And so, you know, because I was in such perpetual
motion going forward.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Yeah. So so with.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
The I've been invited everywhere since.
Speaker 2 (44:55):
With winter, like you know, it's like you know at
the stage, but also you know it's the again what
what we call like the darkness, right that comes up
where the sun you know, pulls back, it does its thing,
so that we go into that that season where you know,
(45:17):
things start to kind of hibernate and and you know,
over a slower period, right, I mean we're not there yet, no,
just just because it turns you know.
Speaker 1 (45:30):
Well it depends on where you live. Because we were
raised in Alaska, so it was dark in December.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Well this in December it was you know, it was
all dark.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Well it did start to get.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
Cold though in September, you know, I mean where it
was like forty degrees and it's just like what it
was like, you know, our heat wave of seventy degrees
and having to go like into the thirties and all that.
I was like, God, it's just September. Yeah, all right,
(46:05):
if you've like now I'm having like you know, my
PTSD of like you know, living in Alaska, so.
Speaker 1 (46:13):
I mean I had a great gun there, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:17):
Pulling the scabs off.
Speaker 1 (46:21):
All my best friends from there. Yeah, silly. All our
fun cousins up there too. We were talking about them earlier.
We were talking about them. Who was wasn't it you
and I? So me and Amy?
Speaker 2 (46:40):
I think it was you and Amy? Yeah, our sister. Yeah, yeah,
because I I don't think it was me.
Speaker 1 (46:47):
Oh yeah, oh no, it was me and Willie. It
was me and Willie. Yeah, me and Willie. Because Willie
used to say when I was teaching Kelly how to drive,
he'd say, because we call her bun Bun because her
dad was Uncle Bunny, so she was bun Bun anyway,
(47:08):
So Willie at two, no pun pun drive, No bun
Bun drive, and everybody of the family, you know, because
we had so many family members up there, we'll go
what what what do you mean? No bun bun drive?
You know. I was like, God, thank god, I can't
(47:29):
talk much. He's gonna tell everybody I'm teaching her how
to drive, like all right. It was really funny. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (47:44):
So yeah, anyway, what's interesting with the cups coming up
to you know, like the Three of Cups, the Nine
of Cups, Yeah, the Cups, the the.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
Not every deck does this, you know, but the cups
generally they can represent autumn, you know, seasonally, and it's
like the the cups they represent, you know, are our
emotional self, but also how it is that we connect
with others too, and and it does feel like it's
(48:23):
it sets the stage too to stay connected, you know,
as like once the harvest is over right, it's like
you know, the then the celebrations, the time of the
feasts and all. You know, these these are important times
(48:45):
because it feels like, you know, culturally anyway, it's like
there's there's like the feasting on this end of it,
and then kind of the fasting and all that kind
of on the on the other end of the calendar,
you know, like in the winter months and stuff like that,
you know until until the spring and and when the
(49:10):
the growth and all that, when that resumes. It's a
it's pretty interesting how like cyclic cyclically, you know, we
we get into these uh, celebration modes. You know that
it's like, okay, you know, the the the autumn is
(49:31):
is kind of like heavy heavy like feasting and in celebration.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 2 (49:40):
Right.
Speaker 1 (49:40):
I had a real shamanic dream to two days ago.
So I'm usually two days out when I dream so
it's today that it kind of comes into fruition and
maybe it has something to do with Maibon. But it
was about a feast and a lot of people coming together.
But it was an India and uh it had a
(50:03):
Buddhist There was a Buddhist monk there, you know, and
I know that the Buddhist monks are sometimes there in
some parts of India. And and there was somebody coming
in and maybe it was Siam, because I dream about
Siam all the time, Old Sam, which is now uh Thailand, No,
(50:27):
it's behind Thailand. Uh, it's by it's behind well, I
don't know, I have to Uh it starts with a
bee anyway, Burma, Burma, Burma. Anyway, I usually dream about
(50:48):
old Siam, and uh, so maybe it's old Siam actually
because it was uh there was somebody dressed in maroon
with a kind of a on, and then it was
in the front of this entourage was a Buddhist monk
(51:13):
and it was kind of a ceremony coming in into
this big place where all these people were, and it
was very it was just really interesting, and the monk
was blessing everyone as they came around. So it was
just really interesting that I was blessed and so many
(51:35):
people were blessed. Even Cheyenne and Alex were there in
my dream and I got blessed, you know, so it's
just sell these blessings. I thought, Wow, this is so interesting. Yeah,
so I woke up, you know, with this beautiful shamanic dream.
But I haven't really deciphered it all the way yet,
but yeah, yeah, it was probably Siam if I think
(51:58):
about it. Yeah, Old Sam Burma, thank you Jason for
being my brain. It's a good brain anyway I could brag.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
Yeah, except my brain had a dream where I had
a meeting with a meeting scheduled with Arnold Schwarzenegger, and
I was went up to his house and it's like
the oh, it's like the front gate is open, you know,
it's propped open. So I walked through, but there was
another gate and there was like a like a guard
or you know, someone kind of watching that. And then
they were like they ran my name through a list
(52:37):
and it was like, well, it's like it seems like you,
you like, are on this this list for like, you know,
being a troublemaker or something from the last time you
were here. And and in my dream. I was thinking,
Oh yeah, like the last time I was here, there
was like some kind of like scuffle that someone started,
but I didn't. I wasn't involved, but they put my name.
Speaker 1 (53:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (53:00):
I was just kind of there, and so my name
got on the list, and so you know, it's kind
of I'm like, I was like banned from coming in
to see the Great Arnold, you know, the list because
I was on the wrong list. I was on the
naughty list as opposed to the nice list. So you know,
(53:25):
it was that's where my brain went this morning.
Speaker 1 (53:28):
So that's really that there's.
Speaker 2 (53:31):
No Jason here on the on the property you get out.
Speaker 1 (53:37):
Yeah, really they didn't want the Wizard.
Speaker 2 (53:39):
Go back to California.
Speaker 1 (53:43):
Wasn't he in California?
Speaker 2 (53:48):
Yeah? Probably, It's just.
Speaker 1 (53:55):
We hadn't decide for that one to anyway. Yeah, that's
where it is. Thatly well, happy happy May on everybody,
Happy fall, Equinox Autumn it has come. So Jason, where
can they find you?
Speaker 2 (54:17):
My website? Jason d McKean, m C. Excuse me, I
need some water. It's that that's that dream.
Speaker 1 (54:34):
The start over place.
Speaker 2 (54:36):
Okay, Take two, Jason d McKean, j A. S. O.
N D as in Dragon Lord McKean m c k
a N dot com and uh on Facebook Jason D.
McKean and on Instagram Jason Tarot wizard. Yes, I just
got a new a new hat. It is that hashtag
(54:59):
wizard on the on the crown there in the front
baseball hat. Yeah, so take that arnold.
Speaker 1 (55:11):
Hashtag wizard, hashtag wizards.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Anyway, how about where people find you?
Speaker 1 (55:17):
Well, let's see, I've been changing things around for me
and I decided to get another phone number, so you
can call that at three one zero three zero three
eight one eight eight. And for the horse sessions, the
(55:39):
horse therapy, and also any sort of hypno therapy, and
if you want to text all the prices, we can
do that. And also, uh, you know, psychic readings of
course half an hour and an hour and yeah, and
(56:01):
then there's lots say hypnothesia. We do hypnothesia too. I
do it with an MD and he's fabulous. And we
put you under into a light light I think they
call it twilight and then or a little light sleep,
and then I give you suggestions. So if you really
can't do things sometimes, you know, like success, get over
(56:25):
your blocks or whatever, these blocks are that you have
in your life. You know we can I can help
with giving you those suggestions. Also, you can Tara appointment
at gmail dot com. You can get me on all
social media Tara Suttfin s U t p h e
(56:47):
N Tara Sutfin and my Instagram is Tara Underscore Insight.
But I'm on everything Tara as Tara sutfon. You can
find me around on on X and Twitter, oh the
old Twitter, and TikTok Instagram, Facebook. I have lots of
(57:10):
Facebook pages because I ran into being at five thousand
and two thousand and nine, so I have to too
and and then the other pages, but as this one,
this one is like the fourth page or something, so
that we put this podcast on.
Speaker 2 (57:32):
You to have like dance videos up on like TikTok.
Speaker 1 (57:35):
No, I don't have dance thons. I should, I should
have dance songs, but I should good, you should definitely good. Yeah. Yeah.
So anyway, happy beautiful fall, Equinox. Thank you for being
(57:56):
on the show. Jason, I love you.
Speaker 2 (57:58):
I love you too. Happy Autumn to everyone.
Speaker 1 (58:02):
Mm hmm, okay, blessings everybody. Okay, let's go on
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