Christmas Cheer

Tara Sutphen & Jason D McKean talk about Christmas Cheer

Episode Transcript

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Welcome to Transformations with Tara Tara satthen and my co host and guests Jason
de Mi King, And he isthe voice of over a million home recordings
throughout the world and he's an incredibleTara Wizard Reverend. Those home recordings out

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there, they're really fantastic. Anyway, there's Indigenous own Serenity, Eternal Ome
Ome, Eternity Home Sanctuary, Obeats beat Yeah, I try to remember
the whole great and that last oneright the oh, well, there's sacred

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omes and then there's uh Shiva Shakti. Yeah, yeah, thank you,
thank you, thank you here onChristmas us, well near Christmas almost there,
right, almost happy pre Christmas toyou. Thanks for having me on

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Transformations today. Yes, it's great. It's great to always be happy.
And we're going to give a littleChristmas cheer. We thought we'd do a
little tarot, you know, somefun things and just kind of yeah,
shout it up right, what saysChristmas more than taro? Right? Yeah,

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yeah, for sure. It's likeyou know, most of you know
the world wants to just place itaround Halloween, and it's like, no,
no, Tarot is year round andabsolutely can be Oh my god,
it's it's definitely part of the Newyear, all the the where people are

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wanting to to make resolutions for themselvesand and all just but you know,
being able to just look at theholiday and navigating the holiday in a good
way. It's like you think thatthat adults that you know, they have
expectations of the holiday like kids do. Of course, of course, I

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think that's why we get kind ofinto our groove of like maybe there's not
enough happening for us, or maybethere's too much happening, or we're giving
too much, you know, whereit's become commercial commercialism. You know,
we were in this consumerism commercialism sometimesa little bit too much. You know.
I heard of a really great storywhere somebody was going back to visit

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their parents for Christmas and they're allsitting around the house and they all bought
a book and they're all reading together. And I was like, oh my
god, I'm going to do thatfor New Years? Was it the same
book or and I'm just going toread for New Year's Yeah, okay,

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well we're going to miss that party. It's just like hold on instead of
like you know, pouring the champagneand all I'm just gonna read, right,
But it's on how you create yourreality of what you want to do.
Yeah for me, yeah, no, I need a rest from probably

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eating cookies and eating yeah. Yeah, I just got a package yesterday from
my mom. My mom, Iate all our cookies. She hasn't like
out sitting out our mom Anyway,I was up there for a week and

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yeah, I just reached from thetable onto the you know partition there in
the counter, like right, andthey were like you know, and it
wasn't like the just one kind ofcookies. I think there was like six
kind of cookies. Yeah, Igot my cookies, yes, and then

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the mood for yeah, it's it'slike the the coffee ones, the ones
that are coffee with the chocolate andthe and the white chocolate on them.
Those are delicious. Yeah. Wellshe made those special because those weren't there
when out there, so she's madethose since well you know, it's because

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I'm her most special favorite one.Oh I am, we have this whole
thing. Yeah, no, it'suh. I think she probably made them
for for her special friend Genie actually, and I think I think Genie got

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the vast Yeah, who's our sister? By you know proxy, we just
think we we Yeah, I thinkshe got the vast majority of the coffee
flavored cookies and I got the crumbsof them, just like well we'll give
you one two. Yeah, butoi she they are they are so good,

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so delicious. That's that's like,uh you know, I think a
part of Christmas that it feels likeit's Christmas when when there are like things
like that, because I I don'tneed a tree, I don't need like
I like, I like lights,and I like uh you know, uh

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uh you know. I mean eveneven the dinners don't have to be like
like a traditional with the cookies.They're they're a must. That's what Cyane
says. Christmas is Grandma's cookies.Period. Yeah. Well I agree with
Cheyenne. Once no, uh andone one year when Grandma lived in Alaska.

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She what happened was she sent cookiesdown and Hunter and shy in them.
I'd been like seven and five.Anyway, the dog ate the cookies
out of the box. Ate itgot all ate them all wo wohy.
That dog was toast after that.He was. I mean they told him

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every time they saw him, youate Grandma's cookies. We looked those you
know now, yeah, you know, you didn't know. He was just
happy to have grandma all of Grandmas. Well, so it sounds like one
of those those children's books, youknow, the naughty dog that ate all

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of Grandma's Christmas cookies. You know, yeah that was terrible. Yeah,
I mean and we still hear aboutthe grandma's Christmas cook Was that scuttle?
I think so? I think itwas our littler dog. Yeah, it
wasn't our big dog. It wasour littler dog. Yeah, oh those

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little dogs. Sir. He wasa half jack Russell terrier dog and he
would he was he was just awild guy. He would love to jump
on the trampoline, jump with kidsand he was their best friend. But
he would he would walk the fencesand every day, you know, the

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the horse crowds were were dog proof, and he would walk. He would
get up and he would be inthe horse crowl every day. But what
he would do with one horse thatI had, he would lick her forehead
just you know, that was theirthing, that she put her head down.

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He would just lick and like andlike and pet her and groom her
for head and and they were bestpals. So that's why he's standing on
the fence. No, No,he was jumped into the corral by that
time. And you know, theywere just big pals. They were,
they were huge pals. And thenho Con, you know, my big

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white samoid. He was palced withLarica and they for years. God,
they they were just pals and theydid everything together. Yeah, they were,
they were inseparable. I mean,bart you know, if Hokan needed

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to bark at something, Lerica wasright there with him. But at that
time the corral, he was abig dog, so I didn't you know,
it wasn't fenced, you know,there were corrals that were not fenced
for you know, and didn't howmany little dogs at that point, right
right, And then came Bentley andBentley then I had an the ranch and

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that ranch had dog proof fences,and the horses would be running like crazy
on the acreage and guests who'd berunning out there with them. Ahay was
awful, awful, me screaming.So Belly was able to get into the
Yeah, he'd find some way tosqueeze through. I mean, he just

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loved them so much and so andthey would they for who knows what happened
in their brains. They decided hewas fine and didn't and didn't try to
hurt him at all. Oh,because he was awful outside the fence.
They would put their nose kind oftoward him and he'd always snap at them.

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But it wasn't like, you know, he was a you know,
cuddly dog like Scuttle was he was. No, it wasn't like licking their
foreheads at all. No, butthey knew he was my precious little peanut
running moment, so they made surethey didn't kill him. Yeah, yeah,

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because it was going to be theirheads they kill all right, Well,
Merry Christmas everyone, So it iswhere did this conversation like take that
turn into Christmas cookies? Oh?Yeah, yeah, the Christmas cookies,
Christmas cookies. But yeah, theyou know that he was, we couldn't

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we couldn't keep him away from anyanything. Yeah right, So so with
uh, you know, like youryour own you know, is Christmas one
of your favorite holidays? I likeall the holidays, And do you do

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you celebrate Christmas or Yule? Orwe celeb rated Yule. See, I
mean I'm big on all all ofit. So we celebrated Yule this has
been a very festive month. Maybethat's why I want to read around the
New Year's because you know, Iwas called in October and asked if I

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would be in northern California for mybirthday because my nieces wanted to celebrate their
mom and my birthday together and havea Lord of the Rings party. And
so it was like, oh,of course, you know, of course
I'll make it. I was inFlorida at the time, but yeah,
of course I'll make it. Soso so with that, you know,

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I've already been gone most of December. I was all gone all of November,
most of December. So now I'mback home and the holidays. Yeah,
and it's gonna be great. Itlooks like we all had fun there
at the Lord of the Ring party. Well, yeah, you were there
our candle. I was there,thinking I was there. I saw no

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pictures of myself. He sent abunch of pictures of himself. No,
it's not the same thing, Jason. It's being there in spirit. But
Jason had been there a week before, so it's like my my residue was
still there. But but a Lordof the Rings party, Ah, yeah,

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showing up for right, No,it's like it's a natural, right,
we already know what our next partyis and I'm not gonna tell.
We said, oh, let's dothat for Mom's pricke want to kill us.

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At least I had fun, andfun is a but that's important thing
is you know, we're we don'tget together with them all at Christmas time,
but you know the rescue here,we're pretty we see each other.
It's all pretty good. It's thefun. That's the point of parties too,
is to is to have fun,and you know it's to make merry.

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Yeah, especially those those winter partieswhen it's cold outside, and in
California it's not cold cold like itis in other parts of the US or
the world, you know, thenorthern half of the world anyway. Oh
yeah, I know it's very coldthis week, even in the southern half

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the United States is very cold thisweek, right, Well, I was
thinking lots south of the Equator whereit's like summer. Yeah, well it
is. It's the highest summer.Yeah. But with with you, Ale,
you know what, uh get.You celebrated it on the equinox,

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on the solstice falsus, So yeah, mule is you know, we were
we went. We went from completedarkness, you know of the quarter stay
of the year to now we gainlight every day even though it's wintertime.
We gain light. But it willbe yeah, until March twenty first it

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becomes the equinox bringing fornos, allright, and it happens. Magical things
that happen in the world. Ihave to say, there are magical things.
Yeah. New Grange, New Grange, you know they have if you've
ever been to New Grange in Ireland. It's it's an old, ruid kind

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of tomb. It's a it's avery you know, there's like three little
areas. Once you get in it. It has this little window on the
entrance and you you serpentine in.So it's not a straight line, there's
no straight line. It's it's awhole like thing to go in right,

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like a labyrinth or is it justlabyrinth? But it's very it's very you
you're going in right. And I'vebeen there several times and uh, you
guys might have seen where I'm layingthere a New Grange, I'm like an
altar area anyway, So for picturesback in the day, it was fun

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and so so the thing is,is it lights the chambers if if the
sun is shining in Ireland, whichyou know it doesn't shine that often,
but if the sun is shining andpeople get these tickets, I think like
years super years in advance. SoI don't even know if you can get
in on December twenty first, right, but it is if the sun is

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shining and twenty the twenty first,it comes in and it lights the chambers.
Yes, and it's incredible, it'sreally super incredible. So but only
on the twenty first, only onthe solstice. Yeah, so it's pretty
pretty magnificent. Yeah, And itwas locked up for many many years that

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the it became a superstition that itwas, you know, kind of like
magic and scary and so I don'tknow the dates, but I know that
it was locked up for many likeone hundred years or something, maybe five
hundred years, I don't know,but anyway, it's a long time.
Yeah. The druids, you know, it's magical druids. Oh. So,

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so with with Yule, did didyou uh, you know, prepare
some kind of like special feast orDiane, I thought about cooking, but
we actually went out for really specialdinner and it was just the food was

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delicious, and then we came homeand then and we wanted to be together.
We did we thought, well,we could do a party, we
could do, but we decided we'redoing so much over the you know,
over the days here. We thought, no, we're going to go and
go to dinner and then we're goingto come home. And we were going

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to light a bonfire, but itwas a little windy, so we decided,
you know, better best not inthe wind in California, so we
opted for the fireplace. So welift the fireplace, got out my Christmas
dishes, and we had cookies Mom'scookies, and we and tea and we

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had bedtime tea with Ripple Vanilla ripplein it wait a sec, Ripple Cama
man mild tea and ripple wait asec. I mean, I think we've
had this conversation before or something,but Ripple is it is really cheap wine
that would drink like you know rightright, that's back in the day.

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I just want to clarify that forit's a vegan milk. Yeah, you're
right, it was. Ripple wasin where that I don't know, seventies,
isn't that what they called? Yeah, yeah, definitely screw top,

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you know, cheap wine that didnot have a really great reputation for being
a fine drink for a connoisseur offine wines. You know, it's like
just it's a ripple. Yeah,I remember having that conversation. But glad
you clarified that. So it's avegan creamer. Yeah, so you know,

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we didn't we you know, Idon't really drink very much, so
like at all. So well it'sexcept for maybe twice a year anyway.
Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, you know, it's fine. But
yeah, so I liked tea andverbal teeth and so the thing is is

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that, yeah, we drink tea, and yeah, all my kids drink
tea anyway. And uh, youknow because Graham and Grandpa had tea every
day at their house at four o'clock, our great grandparents. We knew the
whole family because everybody come over fortea because every day their house was open
at four for tea. I rememberdoing a mule celebration where we would write

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down a wish I guess for ourselvesfor the coming year and then tie it
to the tree. Oh yeah,that's a nice that is really beautiful.
That is and I've had a lotof Solstice celebrations over the years. Yeah,

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and so we cook a lot ofreally favorite beautiful foods. Which are
we are going to do for Christmas? You know, a chef Cheyenne's house,
so you know our Christmas is gonnabe incredible. Yeah, I'm you
know, sleveled eggs, tastes likemagnificence, like what you do. Yeah,
everything she touches, counting on thatchef Cheyenne, like getting to work.

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Yeah, I Watchfords for her.It's like, oh no, no,
no, you have to like ithas to cook to this mom.
You can't move it. You know, she has everything like precise. Yeah,
it's uh, I mean she's she'sa master at it, you know.
Just h and also you know,just she is steeped in in all

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of the the traditions, you know, and so it's like, uh,
I'm really looking forward to to thathappening in a couple of days. Yeah.
And they all fight for her,all these restaurants all around Los Angeles
because they want her, and sheshe won't do it. She only does

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events and special special catering. Butit works as sous chefs for huge chefs
around town. Well, gang pupevents, you name it. She was
at the Elton John retire party.She's Elton John retired. Well, he

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says he is. Yeah, oh, he says he is. Well to
where's there was a big party forit. Yeah. So there's a goodbye
tour. I mean like he's tryingto say goodbye to everybody. But you
know, it's tough have to retire, you know, he's but I'm sure

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the road, you know, ittakes its tall. I remember when the
Rolling Stones retired in nineteen eighty,did they Well that was their last concert
tour, you know, forty twoyears ago, and there's still like playing.
Yeah, so he's he's going tocome out of retirement. No,

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no, no, no, heis. That is that is my pen
I mean it's very you know,it's it's in your blood. It's in
your blood. Right. You've beendoing it for, like, you know,
your whole life. How do youretire from something that you've been doing
your whole life? I mean it'scalled death, right madam. Yeah,

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But it's like you know, ifyou're if it's baked in, it's like
I mean maybe the big tours andall that, you know, may may
not have the same appeal. MRight. I used to live with somebody
who used to call themselves a homebody. They were the travelingst person I ever

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knew, Like, are you kidding? You really couldn't be yourself that they
were a homebody? You were youwere the least tombody persime my entire life.
Right, Yeah, I would saythat, you know, I mean,

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do you consider your yourself to bea homebody because you're you're on the
road a lot. I'm on theroad so much more than anyone else with
that now. No, No,I'm not a homebody. I mean I
love my home see and that's thething, you know, I can admit
it. I really really love myhouse. But in my homebody, no,
no, I have a great team. I have great teams to take

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care of my animals. That's whatI have. Yeah, I would consider
myself to be more of a homebody, you know, like a because and
especially you know, because I doall the online work. You know,
it's like I can teach in Japan, you know from my home. You

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were and you were the you knowbehind the curtains wizard before you were a
wizard, okay, you know allthe artwork, you know, posting a
book, making, creating books andarticles and websites, and you know,
Jason was a production specialist to thehighest order. Really, you're in front

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of the camera and I'm really happyabout that, Jays, but you're still
probably part been introverted and come onout of your show, honey, I
think that. Uh, you know, it's like I've had the opportunity to
do a lot of creating too inthe last couple of years, like with

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a just I've been you know,helping friends and clients you know, create
their own books and stuff like that. And so I've been kind of back
in that realm of of doing somesome production and all that. But it
inspires me, like I'm almost donewith my second book, you know,
I'm starting to see the light atthe end of the tunnel there, and

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it's, uh, you know,it feeds a creative source you know,
within me to like uh, youknow, be but you know, to
then you know, it's like onceyou like write a book or or so,

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it's then it's like getting out there. And so maybe it's this this
cycle of you know, where you'reon on you know, getting something done
and then it's it's done, andthen you you go out into the world
again. And I've I've got likeclasses and events and stuff coming up in

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Bakersfield and in other parts of lA. Or I'm gonna be doing live
events and and also it's like,you know, it's it all feeds that
source I think. So you're gonnago do steff in Baker's Field. Yeah,
there's like a fair, uh likea psychic fair, like a smaller

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they have in some but I wasasked to uh to read upcoming and in
January. I don't know all thespecifics yet, but uh, but yeah,
it's uhl crew. Oh absolutely,it's like a really wonderful community in

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Bakersfield. And you know it's justthrough uh the years of the pandemic and
all that, it's like, youknow, just being able to stay in
touch with everyone and then all throughthe magic of zoom and the Internet.
It's like really wonderful. So hcall you like a homebody necessarily. I

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mean you have so many people youwere every day, right, Yeah,
I mean it's the world. Jasondoes all sorts of stuff in Japan.
Yeah, we we uh you know, just did private readings not too long
ago. In Japan. We've gotclasses that are gearing up starting in in
uh January where there's a number ofstudents and it's it's really uh it's starting

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to get you know, where thestudents are are more serious. They're actually
going out in there, uh,finding clients, you know, reading at
stores and you know, ah,inhabiting that that identity of being a trit
reader. It's it's like, uh, it's really quite quite wonderful to see

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and you know, to to bea part of that, that's that's that's
really exciting for me. I mean, speaking of Tara, do you want
to read a card for either thisis holiday or right? I chose this
card this morning party. It's timeto party everybody but the four of Ones?

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Yeah, what do you get outof for wands Chase? The four
of Ones is is? I meanit's a definitely where we're one is you
know, creating union with with others. And I like to see it as
is where you know, we alsotake a look back, like like we

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kind of reach a little plateau withinourselves and we're able to look back and
see how much progress we've made,how much we have, how much growth
has taken place, and and sometimeswe have to be the one who says
good job, you know older andyou know, because not everyone around us

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will will necessarily see it, youknow, they can be kind of in
their own bubbles and and all that, and and so we we give ourselves
some self congratulation and then we wekeep moving. We don't just you know,
rest on our laurels, but butwe can take time to you know,

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have a celebration of that and toyou know, celebrate our progress.
And then but yeah, I thinkof it as a card of you know,

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being solid that you you go forwardbecause it's progress along cards are usually
forward, and so you're making progresswith everyone. Here you have four people,
uh dancing around and coming together inhands and you think, wow,

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you know, that's it's such abeautiful you know union card. So and
it's festive, it's very festive.But it's like healing has taken place and
how been time and need has alreadyhappened or you feel at a place where

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now it's time to kind of restand it's more sincere. There's a sincerity
that comes with this card. You'reyou're a little more sincere and authentic with
everyone around you, and you reachout instead of you know, your love
and and to have love, youhave to be loved. To have friendship,

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you have to be the friend tojust taking a step forward. This
is reminding everyone just take a stepforward, say the right thing at the
right time. You know, evenif you are a little bit shy,
or if you're not feeling like youknow what to say, ask a question

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or start a conversation and share yourselfbecause this is it's important just to but
and no one to ask question.Yeah, taking you know, a step
forward, all right, can seemdaunting, that first step, but you

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know, once once you make it, it's like then you can kind of
follow where the energy is taking you, you know, first, you know,
yeah, doesn't everybody have that wherethey I don't know anybody in the
room. I don't think I canbe here. And then all of a
sudden, it's like, oh mygosh, why why did you ever think

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that? For a moment, youknow, meet people and it's like embraceful
and incredible. Yeah. Yeah,and if you know most people are thinking
that that, you know, it'slike, oh my god, you know,
I don't know anyone here. It'slike then that can equalize it too,
where it's like, well, let'syou know, I'm I'm willing to

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take that first step of just youknow, breaking the ice. And you
know, if if one is ata party or something like, go to
where the food is and and startthere and talk about it. I mean
we're always talking about food around here. Yeah, yeah, bring up the

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good things. Don't complain, don'tsay, oh my god, this is
this is terrible. This layout,you know, it's like not like that.
Yeah, that doesn't that doesn't bodewell. This look I made everything.
Yeah, you know, you're it'slike, where are my mother's cookies?

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That's what I want to be eatinghere at this holiday party? But
no, you hit them all tomorroweither that or you Yeah Christmas. Yeah,
I mean if I show up tomorrow, you can be upset. Well,

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no want to be here. Butso I have a card. I'll
pull it from my my festive christChristmas h card bag. Actually I haven't
pulled a card yet. I havethe cards. But this is so happy

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right away. That's good. Yeah, So I have the five of Wanes.
You pulled the four and you're atthe five all right, and you
know it's like the the five iseither about cooperation or that that that other

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word. Uh, where where everyone'sat odds. What's that word, Well,
it's in my new book now coopercooperation, right, which is taking
place here. You know, thesethese uh, these five individuals right are
all aiming their wands towards a highergoal, you know, stones at the

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at the bottom. Yeah. PeopleSometimes meanwhile, you know, you go
to the family dinners and you think, oh, well, I'm gonna I'm
going to really try to make aneffort to talk to so and so because
you know, I ignore them becauseI don't like their personality, or I'm
at odds with them most of theyear or for the last twenty years or

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whatever. And the thing is isthat it's best sometimes to not think that
your luck or you're better. Thenit's just asking a few questions and letting
them speak and actually listening to them, because sometimes people don't kind of make
sense, and you go ahead andjust let them say what they need to.

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For me, I usually do alittle sentinel work, but that's me.
Yeah, oh this person needs sentinels. I'm going to ask the archangels
to go in to have a littleyou know, sweet time with someone,
try to guide them into making theirlife better. Right, Yeah, it's

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like the other word was competition.It's always just the intention. It's just
meaning well for people, sure,sure, so thinking I need to counsel
them at the dinner table. Soso cooperation or competition we can we can
either do both with people, rightand and competing with someone is when we're

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trying to one up, you know, when we're trying to you know,
like at the dinner table win anargument or you know, it's it's like
and especially you know at the holidayswhen when people family, you know,
coming together, you know, thecooperation is just like kind of seeing the

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holiday as as a great opportunity justto come and break bread, to kind
of reconnect to you know, rebondwith with you know, friends and family
and and not get into the youknow just that having to to fight or

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you know, just just one upone another. So so you know what
I love about this this deck isthat it shows that that higher ideal that
everyone is pointing towards that they're focusingon, which is you know, just
seeing the bigger picture of of whyone one gets together in a in a

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form of celebration anyway, is tocelebrate and and find uh, you know
the good Yeah, to be thegood and the good. Yeah, while
the goodness is really good. Youknow what they say, you know what
they say about uh, you know, marijuana and beer? You know,

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are drinking Wait a secon. Who'ssaying this? Is this your friends?
They are saying this, my friends? Is this why you're like, you
know, drinking your ripple going,Yeah, let's talk about marijuana and beer.
Yeah anyway, No, what dothey say about marijuana and beer?

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Yeah? Yeah, well they saythat, you know, if you want
to have a fight, you drink. You drink beer, or you drink
alcohol. And if you want toform a band, you smoke. Everybody
have some nice CBD candies, right, you know, if our mom is

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listening, it's like I wasn't ina band because I was high all the
time. It's because I loved music. Will that ends probably no, no,
oh no, we were there withScott, so it was always will
tear. Yeah. Yeah, she'sall right, yeah mom, mom,

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Yeah, remember I'm your favorite.Hate No, no competition, it's not
a competition. Mom loves us allequally, just some a little bit more
equally. Remember I got the coffeecookies, I know, Yeah, I

(40:38):
got an awful lot of cookies,I'm sure you got like like a lot
of cookies. They were just thereon the counters, piled high. It
was terrible. I was like,my god, get those out of my
rage. M hm h. Yeah, it was great. It was great

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though, and we didn't eat toomuch cake the birthday. But actually the
birthday cakes, they were specially madeby Shannon and they everybody ate a piece
and the party and the none leftperfect. I saw one that was ring
shaped since it was a Lord ofthe Rings themed party, right right,

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and the other one crumbled a bit. Yeah, and the other one was
the same cake. I think itwas a plateau cake. Yeah. They
were delicious, all right. NowI'm hearing that, it's like the well,
how come you weren't there to enjoythose cakes? Gandalf ah. And

(41:45):
then Scott and I watched the moviethe first one before we went to the
party. Was it the extended fourhour version? No, we didn't watch
that. Is there an extended fourhour not know? There's yeah, no,
all of them have extended four hourYou should have watched all twelve hours

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before going to the party. Ohmy god, we should have. We
should have. We should have startedthe day before. Well, we'll do
that next time we have one becausewe have all the gear. Now we're
going to have the Jason have onefor your birthday party, and yeah we're
going to have to repeat it.But you know, we have all the
ears and all the jewels and everything. Right, it's like you can't let

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all of those costumes go to waste. So you know, it's a it's
a Lord of the Ring party foreveryone now for from now on, see,
I'll have my chance to show upas a wizard. Yeah, we're
gonna well if I go to Likethe last time I was in Japan,

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there was a like I'd be onthe subway and there would be people saying,
so do mine. You know,they're thinking I was like the evil
wizard. Yeah that's not good.I was like no, no, no,
it's like yeah, yeah, right, Well, wizards get like a

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bad rap anyway over there because they'rethey're kind of seen as like evildoers,
just like the term wizard and allthat. You know, like like dragons,
right, the Eastern dragons are arevery wise and healing and you know,
they have like a really great reputationover there, whereas in Europe they're

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they're seen as more of the Destroyersand and all you have, you know,
Saint George fighting those Well maybe maybethat, but you know, I'm
gone to so many yeah, youknow seminars over in Europe. You know,
so many mind body spirit festivals weworked for. Right, But that's

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that's more of the New Age crowd. I'm talking about through the real with
that, right, tell people whoactually you know, they're they're out there
doing their thing, right if youif you look at the folklore and stuff
like that, dragons are like seenas as more dangerous, whereas again in

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the Eastern it's it's like it's it'smore it's like a vital type of energy.
You know, it's like you usedin medicine, you know, Chinese
medicine. You know, really quitea powerful symbol. And I'm not just

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saying that because I am a dragon, but you know in the Eastern astrology,
but you're a dragon. But maybemaybe I'm saying that because it's like
sounds good. I know so manydragons. I have two children who are
to rigg who's this? I knowCheyenne's one. They're twelve years apart,

(45:12):
William Cheyenne. I guess so,I guess, so all right, well
so little dragon babies. Yeah,and then I have a tiger. He's
a tiger. Hunter is a tiger. He is a tiger. I mean

(45:35):
he's he's uh, he's totally atiger. Is a goat. Yeah,
what are you? I'm not sayingmma hmm fair that is not fair.

(45:59):
Yeah, so any uh, youknow plans like like I have, like
one of my favorite times of yearsis that time in between Christmas and New
Years because it just feels like thisthis place, this in between place,

(46:19):
anything can happen kind of thing.I think. You know, it's like
we plan to do some traveling.You do there, mhm? In between
Christmas and New Year's you guys aretaken off. Yeah yeah, like like
you know, it's not like aflying to Europe or anything. It's it's
just like a little stuff. No, no, what are you guys doing.

(46:49):
It's like packing up the car,grabbing ananda and going somewhere. It's
like, uh, you know,sometimes we don't have to know like all
the details. You're going. Oh, you guys are just gonna head out.
Yeah. It might be just likewhere do you want to go,
Well, let's go north, let'sgo east. You know, there's really,
right, I've been like looking atuh you know, they're best kept

(47:16):
secrets of places, and there's onInstagram there's some great places to see in
California. Yeah, it's like sometimesanyway, you guys are really really you
know, I have done a lotof that. Yeah. Yeah, it's

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like, uh, there's there's someyou know. Usually we'll set like one
destination and then and just kind oflike circle out, you know, from
that and just kind of see what'swhat's surrounding it, what's what's uh you
know, the periphery, you know, because like like one year we went
to uh uh asa brig I think, which is a park preserve you know

(48:05):
that's kind of in the eastern partof l a uh southeast and then and
then we kind of by accident overshotit and ended up at the Salt and
Sea, right, and that wasdisappointing. At the same time, well,

(48:28):
I mean, I'm thinking upcoming forme, but it might be snowed
in as Mono Lake. But thenanother place that I really want to visit
someday is Bristol com Forest, whichare the oldest trees on Earth. And
then I want to and I alwayslove you so many different parts of you

(48:50):
smite, but I like desert hotsprings, and they used to offer I
don't know if they still do awalk sou which is having a massage in
the water, in the hot waterin the hot springs. Yeah, and

(49:14):
they and they put in plugs,they put in plugs in your ears,
but they never get your face evenwet. And it's this whole massage thing
is it's like being in the boomor something. And then they have this
incredible music playe and you can hearit through the pool and it is fantastic.

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One of the most fantastic things I'veever done is head wotsuit. It's
called what sue. Yeah, yeah, you can remember because it's like what
suit, right, Yeah, Andit's just really incredible. It sounds like
really relaxing. Oh it was gotother worldly you it's otherworldly. It's it's

(50:02):
so incredible to experience you have likean otherworldly you know, any regressions or
anything while you're no, I've been. I've had so many clients and so
much uh, so many private partiesthat no I haven't, I haven't,

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no, no, no. Whileyou're being massaged there in the hot springs,
you like go into some kind ofstate that of recall I thought,
yeah, you were talking about relaxingJason anyway, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
No I haven't. No, Ididn't uh do that. No,

(50:47):
you you kind of just go intoa whole different staate like it's blissful.
It's just blissful. It's more ofa hypnotic state that works. Yeah work.
Yeah. I can't I can't rememberexactly what I was thinking about,
but I you know, maybe triedto think of a lot of nothing like

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more concentrating on the sound of theuniverse, of the earth right right with
them, the whole state of it. Yeah, it's like a letting go
of all the clutter, h beingone with the universe. Yeah, whereas

(51:34):
you know, I mean, I'mI'm you know, love everything that happens
in my daily life. But youknow, there are those days where it's
good to have a therapy like thatwhere you just turn off. Agreed.
Agreed. So as we as wewrap up here, as as we close

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for you know this this time andyou know, right, a couple of
days before before Christmas, a coupleof days after the Yule celebration, the
solstice. So do you have anyany events or any any seminars you've got

(52:15):
a Sedona in March or something thatyou're you're looking at or anything. Ye,
well, I'll be having a seminarApril March or April in Sedona and
at the ranch. You know,I rent a whole ranch. And then
I'm thinking of doing a one twoin Malibu, more of an unstressed in

(52:38):
late January maybe or February, somaybe doing that one. And you know,
I just haven't put them together quiteyet, but they're pretty easy just
to throw together. So if anybodywants to go to any of those.
And then I have a beautiful manorhouse to use in North Carolina. And

(52:59):
then I have another incredible hotel thatsomebody just offered me that is now it's
a Buddhist monastery and it's being soldand to one of my friends. And
I had done him a very goodturn once a few years ago, about
ten years ago, let him staywhen he was like really having down on

(53:22):
his luck, and let him stayat my house for a few days and
or you know, a few weeksmonths and I don't remember quite it was
one of Willis. It was afew days, few months anyway, So
I was there for twenty years now. I mean he just is like once

(53:42):
to open the world for me.Hey, I bought this hotel and you
know what seminars do you want todo? Just yeah? So I have
that where is that the mansion?It's just gorgeous. That's in North Carolina
too, so so yeah, sothere's a lot of really incredible places of

(54:04):
coming. Yeah. So I havethe South, and I have the West
and you know, the North.Whatever we want to do. You know,
all my New Zealand people are likewhen you come back and then Europe
calls my name too. Well,it's it's good that you'll be home for

(54:28):
this holiday anyway, because it willbe back out on the road. It
sounds like, yeah, coming up, excellent, excellent. Yeah, I've
got an event at Healing Oak Crystalscoming up in the middle of January.
But I'll post it on my Facebook. Okay. You know, they're it's

(54:51):
so sweet there. I love that. Yeah. It's like, you know,
I'm gonna be teaching live tear classesthere, you know, at least
once a month or so, andit's it's good to uh, you know,
experience terror live as well. Youknow. We I do a lot
of classes online, but but thelive events are are special as well,

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and so you know, it's it'sgood to you know, experience it in
in that setting, you know,as a as a student of it.
It is nice to see Jason doesall these incredible questions when he's doing to
row, So it's really fun.Yeah, Jason, Well Christmas chair too

(55:40):
for everybody. But yeah, whatwe're saying say, you know, I
mean it's it's good to like stretchone's knowledge, you know, especially of
uh, you know, when you'rewhen you're learning like a psychic science and
all when you're expressing you know,your your own spirituality, you know,

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is to is to live it,to embody it, to you know,
have have it in as many youknow, expressions as as you can so
that you're so that you know it, you know, so that you you
really are are experiencing it on aon a deeper level. So but thank

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you, Tara, thank you somuch. And where where can people find
you? At Tara Insight dot com, t A R A I N S
I G h T dot com.How about you, Jason? Where can
they find you? Jason d McKeandot com and Instagram It's Jason Tara Wizard

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Facebook Jason D McKean, j AS O N D M C K e
A N. Okay, Lot's oflove everybody, now, everybody you know,
Step into your greatness, up intoyour beauty, Step into your best
self, knowing that you know notevery day is going to be your expectations

(57:07):
for Christmas or of other people,but you have your expectations for you and
you are the best, So allowyourself to be. Okay. Lots of
love, everybody. Lots of love. Yeah, thank you, Sarah.
What's of love to you? MerryChristmas everyone, and happy holidays and everything.

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We'll see you soon. I