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February 16, 2024 47 mins
Tara Sutphen CHt & Jason D. McKean discuss Finding Love and in it's right timing. www.tarainsight.com www.jasondmckean.com
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Welcome to Transformations with Tara. Thisis Tara Sepman, and my guest and
co host is Jason D McKean,and we are going to talk about love
and finding it at the right timing. So I thought we'd do a low
follow up to Valentine's Day. Misterown Tara wizard here, you probably pick

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us a card and see what weshould start off talking about about finding love
at the right timing. Yeah,I will, I will, you know,
pull pull a card. Absolutely.I mean we both can can pull
cards, you know and see youknow what like uh yeah, it's like
like looking at at the diagnostics thereof Valentine's Day. There's this meme.

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There's this meme where there's a guywho's being hit over the head with a
bouquet of flowers. Yeah, andand the woman is saying, I didn't
want flowers. I wanted tacos,and so she was whacking them on the
head. But I got tacos forfor Valentine's Day. Yeah, that's very

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sweet and homemadeas homemade tortillas. Itwasn't like just all store bought, you
know, it was like it wasit works too. Life is an incredible
But she and she she wanted tolike just like you know, it wasn't
like I need some tacos and Ineed them to be completely homemade. You

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know. She just like just outof her own curiosity, was like,
you know, I wanted like tostart making stuff. You know that that's
kind of like where everything is likehomemade. It's like all right, you
know, I'm not going to complainabout that. You know, it's like

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food. Oh food. Yeah.So that was that was That was nice.
That was that was a nice Howabout yourself? And oh it sounds
like it was great, Yeah asfar as yeah, yes, yeah.
So you know Valentine's Day, there'sa lot of expectations that are built expectations.

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You know. It's like a lotof the clientele would be you know,
like before Valentine's Day, it's like, you know, it's it's so
and so going to get me something? Are they what do they have planned
for me? You know, Andit's there's a lot of expectations that get
built around it. And that's whenas a as a counselor as a as

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a as a tarot reader, it'slike, you know, usually I don't
dread cards coming up, but iflike the five of cups like shows up
you know where it shows like uha letdown something like that. Then it's
like, uh, oh, youknow, not now I have to talk
about this. You know. It'slike well, you know, it's like

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don't don't build your expectations too high, right, yeah, you know,
to to like just temper, youknow, and to hope the the boyfriend
or the husband or whatever gets thehint and and like goes all out.
Right. You know that there's somekind of cosmic readjustment in that that time

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period between the reading and the actualday, so that the person is not
like crushed, you know. Right, Well, there is a lot of
expectations, and that's why we're youknow, there's a love at the right
time, you know, not necessarily. You know, you need to be

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in love with life every day.Not really just a holiday like a made
up Hallmark holiday, but consumer's Dayof Valentine's But it is fun. It
is a fun day to like celebratelove. I think that, you know,
we as humans, we like ourvery specific holidays, you know,

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and I think that especially after thebig build up of Christmas and you know,
Thanksgiving, that whole like stretch Honica, you know, just where it's
like a big like you know,to do around December. It's like,
you know, kind of getting stillgetting through the winter. You know,
for those of us who experience winter, not myself actually living in southern California,

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it's like winter winter. What's that? I love? I love California
when it's because it's not winter winter. Well, well, I mean it's
been wet and it's been you know, it's cool. You have to have
your heat on to where's you knowone day, you know, I mean
I I didn't ever used to puton my heat or air conditioning, and

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now I put in my heat andthe air conditioning a little bit right,
but very low. Yeah, it'suh you know, one can get by
wearing a sweater, you know,or a long sleeve shirt. You know.
It's not like like where it's likemiserably cold. You know. I
mean we both experienced that. Wedon't have to go into that. We're

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talking about love, you know,snow. No, but but like you
know, the the we're talking kindof about being being a candy and flower
holiday, right, like those industrieslike go go crazy right right, because
because it's about you know, uh, you know, showing appreciation and all.

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But but there's there's a lot ofpressure you know, and and you
know too to generate feelings like inwhen you are in love, When you
are in a loving space, it'slike it's pretty undeniable. When when you're
feeling it right, it's like youknow, hopefully as a as a couple,

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it's mutual, you know, soit's not an unrequited love. That's
another topic though, we're talking aboutwhen it does work right, when when
the the stars align. How doyou see it? How do you see
when when there's an alignment like ineither you know the the astrology or in

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your own like counseling, and whenyou're when you're working with others, when
do you see it? Well,you do see it. Actually, there's
even if you run the femeris youcan see that. I mean, if
you know what you're looking for thatyou will be in love with certain certain
years that you know there that there'sa spark meeting. And so does it

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go in cycles where no, No, I think it's in the person's individual
chart and what you're you know,I do all the mathmat you know,
the mathematical formulas and stuff, soI look for uh so I'll look for
the sparks of different things. Yeah, study that. I've studied that years

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ago, you know, but II yeah, I think it's an interesting
thing that that karma that happens betweenpeople, you know, the progression of
that you know, bam you metthem, and then you go forward,
you know, and sometimes you justcan't stop it, even though there's some

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problems with it, you just can'tstop it. And sometimes you just stop
it and it's just as still asthe breaks are on and you know,
it's still going forward. You know, it's interesting. It's an interesting process.
Love. I think that way whenyou're looking at it too, do
you look to see that like lookingat at both people, like if you

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have access to the astrology of likeanother person who's in a relationship, like
the couple, both people, thenthen you can see if like those the
sparks are are aligned, if they'rekind of coming together at the same time.
Yeah, oh yeah, yeah,yeah yeah. Really super good example

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of somebody getting married and I'm notI didn't really like it was our mom
and her third husband. You know, they had the exact same marriage aspects
that oh god, they Sti're goingto get married. It's gonna be terrible,

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and it was, yeah, butit was gotten arm all right,
she's listening. Okay, you areoff the cookie list, young lady.
I know, jam and cookies Karennext Christmas, they're off now. No,
it was just you know, hewas just a hard guy to get

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along with, but she liked him, and yeah I didn't. Okay,
so with the uh yeah, butbut as far as bringing like the aspect,
that's aspect aspect, yeah, youknow, because they're way more skeletons

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in the family closet. And mymom marrying him was nothing anyway, which
is another show theme. But whatis it? Yeah, where love goes
wrong? Yeah, let's talk aboutin the family and my relationships, right,
okay, yes, go ahead,But looking looking at when again,

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when when things are going right,when when there's like a would would you
call it like a conjunction or alike in like astrologically right, would you
see it as this where where twotwo bodies are moving together? Right?
Kind of sounds sexy too, butwhere it's also like that, that's where

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you know people will like to makechoices as a couple. Right, And
usually if I have the right birthtime of people, I can tell you
know, there's the mathematical equations thatcome up that fit they're just they're just
you know, they fit into ayou know, formulas of being together or

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going forward. But it also tells, you know, the strengths and the
weaknesses of what what this couple willdo. Mm hmm, yeah, Like,
you know, I find that whenI'm doing this this work with others
that you know, there can belike a feeling of attraction. Let's say,

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for you know that that person tolook at at someone else and say,
you know, I'm attracted, right, I want I need this person,
right, But but maybe the timingof it, that that kind of
cosmic energy of like it, youknow, people coming together is not quite

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there. You know, It's likethe one person is is there, but
but the other person is still kindof orbiting, you know, in kind
of their their own place. Theyhaven't like come into the gravitational field yet
of the other right, And youknow that that creates frustration, It creates

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like, you know a lot ofpain for you know, the individual who's
who's like wanting to bring in Love'swho's you know, like ready to be
in a in a loving space,but maybe they're they're focusing on someone who
is not quite either ready or oravailable, right right? I mean well,

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and so that's that's a thing,you know, because I believe in
living in a shamanic way, Soshamanically, if somebody isn't ready or they
they don't have the same peaked interestthat you do, then the thing is
is that you have to trust thatbecause you know the teens and I in

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the early two thousand coined rejection isyour protection, because of the thing is
is do not think that you're notbeing protected. At that point, you
have asked for the best possible life. Why don't you live it? Why
don't you step into it? Andif somebody's rejecting you or they're going to

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play games with you, then ofcourse you know you're not going to be
living your best self in your bestlife because you know you're going to be
too busy in emotional turmoil. Andso where do you step out of emotional
turmoil is you don't play the gameat all. You don't play the game
with people who are emotionally wrecked.You don't play the game with people who

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emotionally want to messy up your lifein any way, whether it be love,
you know, enemies, you know, just anybody, anybody, work,
people, neighbors, whatever it is. You don't messy up your life
for somebody else, especially emotionally.Don't even step into it. You take

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a step back, you know,and they may say, oh, you're
stoic or you no, I don'tcarry your burdens. So that's the bottom
line is like where do you takea cent for you? Shamonically, you
don't carry the burdens of others whenit's unnecessary. You can take responsibility for
your own life when you're like actingbadly or but but you don't necessarily have

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to, you know, step inand make anything emotionally messy, right right,
not it's not necessary, it's uh, I will say, it's it's
a tricky realm, right because it'slike we're all wired to to express love
to, you know, bring bringin others into our life, and it

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can feel a lot like a guessinggame two, you know, like like
we can know who we are,we can be confident in ourselves, but
then we start to get into thecircle of others and it's like, well,
what are they thinking of me atthis moment? You know, and
we can we can be up endedby it if if we uh kind of
lose a sense of ourselves in it, you know. And and it's easy

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I think too uh kind of fallinto traps wanting to be liked too much.
Yeah, you know, so ifpeople don't like you, I mean
not right, you know, asa damn it? What what do you

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mean you don't like me? Howdare you? How dare you? You
want to see the lion come out? Well, it looks like the wizard
coming out, see the Leo dragoncome out that they want, I'll teach
you. Well, weren't we justlaughing about that about how we have this

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dear friend who named her kids,you know, but the third one did
not get Yeah, but it wasclose. But it's just not one didn't
get the name. No, itwas not quite. Yeah, we were
we were just laughing about it.It is feeling left out. But yeah,

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ter En Scott, we have littlewe have little namesakes running. Well
you do, I don't you havenamesakes over the place. You have a
very popular name. Oh but notnamed after me though, like that.

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It's not like, oh, I'mgoing to name him after Jason the Wizard.
Yeah, It's like it's just Jasonis a cool name in Greek means
healer. See what a great name. It's it's a very you know,
it's a name. Oh yeah,we're both only names without our parents really

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putting that two and two together,you know, really yeah yeah unless yeah,
I mean, Jason at the timewas not a popular name. You
know. It's like when we wentto Disneyland in the seventies early seventies.
You know, I went into thegift shop looking for my name on a
license plate or some kind of nameplate. There was a James, there was

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John, There was like Jamie,you know, there was like a lot
of like Jay's, But was therea Jason. No, it's okay,
No, it's not okay. Iwonder if they have out there now on
a little license plate, they canthey can make it now, right,

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they can say, oh, what'syour name? Okay, well just like
they just print it out or whatever, you know. But back then,
it's like it was. It wasa hard life back in the day,
you know. And uh, butback to love, right, because there
wasn't a love saying land for you. I know that that was just like

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it it's a validation that you exist, right when you have like a little
plastic name plate, and Scott hadeverything the key chain, Oh my god,
everything our brother Scott. It's like, you know, had it made.
Scott has loved God's loved that moment. He's loved. Yeah, antcessary

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anyway. Yeah, so I thinkAmy may have been a hard one to
find too. No, I don'tknow. No, I think in the
seventies, yeah maybe, yeah,I don't think it was a popular name
maybe. Yeah. Now anyway backto love Jason. Yeah, so now

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that I've you know, my mywounds, my wounds have been right,
right, Yeah, well we're talkingabout being liked well well, but that
that is like you know again,like how we can uh like build on
our need you know, for forlove or uh you know who who it

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is that we choose too, youknow, as as we get older and
we we you know, choose ourpartners, you know, looking to to
see, Uh we should like you. Huh. That's the number one that
shouldn't They just physical attraction should bekind of like in their taste. Yeah,
it's like it's like there's you shouldget along. Yeah, I mean

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as far as it's because like likeserious relationships are a day to day thing.
Yeah, you know, they're they'relike they can be our our moment
to moment, you know. It'slike I think that the most successful relationships
are like the DNA strand that kindof comes in and goes out and comes
in and goes out, so thatyou have your space, right, It's

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like you can carve out your ownidentity, you can be your your own
person, but you know you you'realso a partner, you know, and
and being clear on what your yourpartnership goals are. Sounds technical and all
that, but again in the dayto day of it, it's like it's
like you want to make things workright, yeah, you know, on

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a on a practical basis, Sothere's there's longevity to it because if if
it doesn't, it's like there's justlike headbutting, right, and it's it's
like that's not good. That's notfun. It's it's not fun. No,
it's not fun. It's it's likeyou know, it's it's it's hurtful.
It creates negative patterns. It becomesyou know, you just like are

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lashing out well or people closing down. Yeah yeah right, yeah, so
so don't do it. No,like like recognize you know, if it's
don't close down or don't fall inlove, you know, because then there's

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the people who don't fall in loveanymore because no, no, no,
I mean don't close down, right, like, don't you know, because
love is it's an energy. Youhave to be vulnerable. It opens you
up to life, right, It'slike, I mean, we're we're here
to to be open to life tonot like you know, just uh try

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to avoid like like everything you know, and just be in that that safe
space of like you know, I'vemade it, you know, but I
didn't experience anything because you know,I was I was afraid that, you
know, if I extended myself thatI would get hurt. And you know
that's that can happen. You know. Sometimes we have like, you know,

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amazing lives, amazing experiences, butyou know, there can always be
the risk of you know, havingour feelings hurt or you know, it's
at some point you know, it'slike none of the right and you should
you know, I mean, notget into it too fast. I mean,
Seyenne and I've been since she's notlet mean, you know here in

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the southern California more we've been hookingup on the EarPods and listening to shows
together, so we late at night, we're listening to like some of these
crazy stories, you know, likewho the bleep did I marry? Type
of thing, and it's like incurl your hair, you know. And

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but you know, there is aprotocol of when not to be too vulnerable,
and another part of you that shouldbe vulnerable enough to know when something
good is going to happen to yourlife and to take a step forward,
you know, like if you areat a barbecue, if you are at
a party that you're saying hi andnot running away from maybe a situation that

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could be a nice friendship. Andthen you can see if it's more because
you know, that's a lot ofit as well as you know, you
just figure out if you're gonna gelyeah, yeah, and and and again.
It's like, you know, thethe areas of small talk, you
know, it's like you can seewhere a person's at, you know,

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if if they are if they're ifthey like talking about ideas, you know,
if they if they are not justlike talking about people, you know,
but talking about like larger things inlife too. It's like, you
know, sometimes those are the thosethose curiosity points where it's just it's much
more more interesting for the long runof it than just like like you know,

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the gossipy you know kind of stuff. You know. Yeah, so
so yeah, it's it's like,you know, finding those those areas of
connection you know, that are onvery very simple levels, and then building
on that, right. I reallytaught that early to Cheyenne, you know,

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I said like, uh, youknow, like don't be talking about
shopping or your nails or anything.And so she comes up. I tell
you, it's she's always so muchfun as far as the topics she comes
up with for us to talk about, you know, science or some discovery
somewhere in the world, you know, uh yeah, or you know,

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some ancient history. We are alwaystalking about something that's so not what you
would think we would be talking aboutthe concepts of of reincarnation or anything.
You know. We we just reallyget into kind of a little bit of
the meat of some of that whenwe're talking to each other and our things

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just even how to fix the world. But it's it's certainly not about you
know, superficial kind of things.So yeah, it's fine, it's fun.
So I was going to pull acard. You want to pull a
card. Do you have your cardshandy? Yeah, as far as just

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looking at at this this idea oftiming, yeah, love in its right
time. Yeah. I mean thereare specific cards that have to deal with
with cosmic timing and things like that, but maybe they'll pop up, but
you know, I like to justkind of see what what comes up.

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I'm in the Skibpoini cards and Jasonis using what your wizard to Row the
Wizard's to Row that is not theWizard's to Row that is available. It's
an out of print deck. Andthere is another deck that's called the Wizard's
to Row, but it's like twentyfour ninety five or something like that.

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No, it's it's it's valid,but it's it's available. It's like if
you look for a Wizard's to Rowdeck, it's like I've seen them where
it's like twenty four hundred dollars fora deck now because they're out of print,
out of print, and it's likegood luck. Although they do have

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them in Spanish and I think Japanesetoo, so you can find it in
another language, but in the originalEnglish, it's a it's a mooey expensive
expensive, mooe expensive. I don'tknow what the what's the Spanish word for

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expensive a luxury of some time?Luxurious? Probably that's m h looks at
you. Yeah, there you go, something something, something something, all
right, So, did did youpull a card? I know I haven't
yet, all right. I pulleda card, all right, and I

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pulled the alchemist. The alchemist,which you know, if there's a word
that I associate with it, it'sit's the word harmonizing, harmonizing and and
again this idea of of of love, you know, and being in that

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space of looking too to like harmonizewith the timing of it right so that
one doesn't feel like they're they're pushingtoo hard, you know, pushing too
hard, pushing too hard on me? All right? That great song from
the Seeds back in the sixties.You know, it's funny because Sky Saxson,

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he sounded like he was like aninsect kind of singing it. So
it was like, you know,yeah, look it up, the great
uh pushing if if so the uhyou know, to to have feelings to

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you know, recognize a partnership ofa relationship with with someone and it's like
kind of knowing, you know,your your part in it so that you
know, you're you're harmonizing with withthe energy of it. You know,
so you know, are you areyou the one who's kind wired to be
the initiator in it? You know? Or you know, are you need

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to to step back a little bit, you know, and to allow for
you know, the the other personto to show themselves, you know,
so that so that one isn't likejust kind of like trying to direct the
whole enterprise of it, you know, right, you know, because what

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does the alchemist do? Right?What the creator? They raised the vibration
of that which is is base tosomething that is of a higher value.
Right, They turn lead into gold. Right, And relationships are a base

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there. There can be a lotof just like feelings, right, a
lot of a lot of passion,but to be able to you know,
to to raise it to where ithas a high value to it where you
know, both both people in itfeel like they are in like the best
possible place with it. Yeah.That that's uh, you know, it's

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it's something that you know, thecircumstances that may bring you together are they
may feel like they're like not alwaysin your your control, or you know,
it's like Oh my god, howdid that happen? You know,
it's just we're kind of thrown together, right, But but to to be
in that that space of recognizing,oh, this is a thing, and

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to to make it as beautiful aspossible, right to to to uh,
you know, with with partnerships,it's like understanding who brings what to to
the table and not being at crosspurposes, not competing with each other.
You know, understand ding what whatwhat it is that you can can bring

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and you know, to be openuh in it so that you're communicating well
you know that that's the that's thealchemizing of it. Mm hmm. All
right, so what you got?I have temperance. So this is fascinating

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because this is like the alchemist takesthe place of temperance in the majorcana.
It's it's that number what fourteen card? Yeah, fourteen card, yeah,
m hmm, fourteen cards. Sothe thing is is that well you know,

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I I see that. You know, it's between heaven and earth,
you know, the these sort ofthings where that attraction we don't know where
it comes from with past life orsomehow the stars are aligning for you to
meet this person, you know,I mean definitely. You know, we

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meet people in all sorts of odddifferent ways, and yet you know it's
a divine timing. It's it's uh, and sometimes we wait for it instead
of actually making the progress to reallystep up and to feel uncomfortable and not

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know where really we're going. Butwhat yet, we need to make really
good choices, like just step up, even though it seems a little bit
off, you know, take astep up and definitely leave behind things that
you are not in your principles orin your value. You know, that's

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that's like the number one thing.You know, you already know what's wrong
for you, So don't be goingtoward what's wrong for you, go toward
what's right for you, you know, I mean, let's just face it,
what's right for you. It's youknow, somebody's temperament, somebody's you

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know, their values, their habits, their you know, livelihood. You
know you know what you want,what you don't want. So and you
know there's always somebody in the wings, because you know, the world is
a very lonely place, and yetit's a very you know, it can

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be lonely or it can be fullof life and laughter and going toward what
you need to round out your life. So you have to understand kind of
what you need as well. It'snot about uh, you know, saying
that you want a relationship and thenall of a sudden you yeah, yeah,

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I can't have a relationship, youknow, you know, you make
up your mind to have it,and then you're like, no, I
don't think so, you know,so that confuses people as well. You
know, there's a lot of thatgoing on, and sometimes it is it
is the timing too of you know, what what I will find with with

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people is that they may be workingthrough something they may not feel that they
are like activating like uh, likethe next stage of their own life as
as an individual. And and tolook to draw in someone at a at

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a time when you're feeling either incompleteor inauthentic, that that can be problematic
as far as like how you showup in it. You know, sometimes
people who are looking to get ina relationship they don't see your potential,

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you know, they want to seeyou as the thing already. And you
know, if that's where your valuesare, if you if you're looking to
see someone as the thing right like, you know, if it's a person
who's like, you know, makinga certain amount of money, let's say,
right, because it's like your yourvalues are about finding a stability you

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know, in a in a relationship, in a love relationship. It's not
just all about the the romance ofit. It's like, you know,
I want to be secure, youknow, in a place. I don't
want to live on dreams. It'slike I want I want chicken wings for
dinner every night, you know,or not goes now, you know where

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it's where a thing where you're okay, but non chicken wings. I mean,
how many chickens do they count?For those wings? All on?
It? Got a lot of chickens. But you know, if if you

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know, I mean that that isyou know, certainly a part of a
partnership, right, is where youknow you're you're looking to, you know,
not just see everyone as a projecttoo, but you know, see
them kind of in their own theirown power, their own you know,
place of where they've built themselves upto a certain place. Yeah. So

(36:45):
I'm stuck on chicken wings now becauseyeah, go on, Yeah, yeah,
that's it, that's all I have. I think it's fascinating that we

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both pull a temperance card. Yes, it's very interesting, but you know,
you have to have patience for timingto you have to be patient.
But yet I believe that you haveto be progressive. You know, you
definitely need because that's what the earthplane is all about, is us actually
walking toward what we want, youknow, I mean, we create our

(37:30):
reality each and every moment of ourlife. That's why it's so interesting when
people like talk negatively, they talkdown to themselves, they don't speak in
the mirror nicely to themselves, thatsort of thing. It's because every moment
you have this opportunity, it's anopportunity to create your reality. And if

(37:52):
you create it and create it andcreate it and you believe in the energy
of it, you know, it'sreally interesting because you know, I have
people source all the time, rightfor money for when I coach them.
You know, we do a lotof hypnosis and prayers and and going forward.
You know what is it that reallywhat my path is before me?

(38:15):
And the thing is is that ifif you're not bringing into your mind those
positive things, you know, youall of a sudden find yourself in all
sorts of termolie because again, youknow, you're collecting the junk instead of
you know, tossing it like,oh, I don't need to deal with

(38:36):
this. Yeah. Yeah, theseare sortid emotions. Those need to go
that that's usually the first thing needsto go. So, you know,
I another thing that, uh,and to source on another person. You
know, like people will want toput a face and a name to who
they want in a relationship. Andthat's the one thing that's you know,

(39:00):
I don't really advise people to dobecause you're limiting yourself for one. I
mean, you have asked for thebest possible life before you, And why
are you wanting this person in yourlife? Why where do you think that
they're going to be good for you? They may have no interest in you
whatsoever. And so it's just likeokay, you know, you know,

(39:23):
I'll stop here because you know thatyou may be making a mistake in your
own life by you know, trippingyourself up all the time. And yeah,
because it's it's too hard. Theenergy, the energy of money you
can call to you, the energyand the energy of love you can call

(39:44):
to you. You can't call theenergy of some person who has a different
maybe you know, pathway before them. That doesn't include you. So the
thing is is that like call inthe love, don't call in the actual
being. Don't you know, don'tlimit yourself is what I'm saying. So,

(40:06):
uh yeah, I always find itinteresting that people will It's men usually
do this, and uh, youknow, I'll be talking to a party
or something. Men will say,oh, she's so pretty and I want
to talk to her. And Isaid, are you going to talk to
her? And they'll say, no, she kind of now And I said,
why won't you talk to her?I said, have you already dated

(40:29):
her in your head? And they'llsay yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm
like, already they're dating. Isaid, have you already married her?
Maybe? And uh oh yeah yeah. Has she aged the way you wanted
her to in your in the marriage? You know? And I said she

(40:51):
already did again three minutes, youknow, yeah, And they'll be like,
oh, yeah, I already marriedher in my head. And it's
just like hello, good talk door, I've already married her and buried her.
Yeah yeah, I mean it's justlike my god, you know,
yeah, maybe she wouldn't do that. Oh no, she's not interested in

(41:13):
the things. I like, Yeah, how you already make up your mind
thirty seconds. I she won't wantto cook what I want to call eat?
You know that sort of thing.Yeah, yeah, it's like,
okay, let's go. People willprogress progress, and you know a lot

(41:34):
of it these days. You know, people are the divorce rate. I
don't know if it's the plastics inthe water bottles what it is, but
people do not step up to createthe reality with who they want to love.
And it's like go for it andoutdoor activities, you know, chopping
wood and hiking, being outdoors andyeah, it's that movement, you know,

(42:00):
and whether the movement is in orderto to build ourselves up as individuals
or to you know, when wewhen we start you know, meeting people,
when we start like uh, youknow, being more involved in in
relationships and all. It's it's like, you know, to to keep that

(42:22):
that movement going and and again it'slike what what builds you as as an
individual? What builds the relationship Andto not get stuck on just the relationship,
you know, to to feel thatyou know, you're you start losing
yourself in you know and getting wrappedup in that. It's it's about you

(42:44):
know, maintaining that that healthy balanceor or separation, you know, so
that you know you are are stayingconnected you know, to your to your
own path as well. You know. So it's it's like you as an
individual can can make a relationship strongerby being by being strong, by knowing

(43:07):
what it is that you want andnot being like obstinate on what you want,
just you know, making a Yeah, it's like you know, it's
like the best relationships are our partnershipswhere you know, there's there's goals that
are shared goals. You know.It's not that, you know, if

(43:27):
you're a bowler, doesn't mean thatyou have to have your mate by you
bowling. You know, every youknow, although it's cute when they have
the matching shirts and you know,the matching bowling shoes and stuff like that
cowboy boots. Well yeah, horsebackriding, don't don't wear your cowboy cowboy

(43:49):
boots. Bowling though, No,No, oh my god, I'm such
a good bowler. Nope, nope, that's keep that out of your your
dating profile, you know, seeit the leans right, No, that's

(44:14):
bowling is not in our genes.It's and Uncle Fred's, but it's not
yours and mine. But it's notmine anyway. Jason great athlete. Jason
has so many tennis trophies age couldcurl your hair. You know, there
are so many. Fill a wallthere. That's fine, Yes, he

(44:38):
really he got so many trophies,so many, so many, too many
to like even you know, mentionanyway, Where can people find you?
At Tara inside dot com and it'st A R A I N S I
g h T dot com. AndJason, how can we find you?

(45:01):
Jason D. McKean j A SO N D as in Dragon Year of
the Dragon McKean m c k AN dot com. And my Facebook is
Jason D McKean. My my Instagramis Jason Tero Wizard. I am on

(45:22):
Instagram Tara Underscore Insight and and thenI have a couple others like I have
a horse therapy sessions and uh soyou know I give horse therapy as well.
And I have a new office comingso that should be open March first,

(45:44):
So if anybody wants to come intothe office and have some hypnosis done,
you know, after pandemic, it'slike now we're getting back into life.
You know, I have that beautifulcenter, but now I'm going to
have another beautiful center. So goingforward word here making progress, and Jason
will be there giving classes as well, and some other people. You know,

(46:07):
it should be really fantastic, goodlocation. So i'll you know,
let you know all that when you'rewhen we're ready, Yeah, when the
when the time has come right,time is right. Yeah, that's it's
all that that cosmic timing. Yea, yeah, I mean, of all

(46:27):
great things, of all great things. Well, thank you, thank you
to thank you for sharing your wisdomtoday. Thank you, thank you,
Jason, thank you so much.And lots of love everybody, blessings.
Yeah, I hope that everyone hada nice Valentine's Day. Yeah, it
wasn't too too pressury, you knowthat. It was like really really sweet.

(46:50):
Well to be in love every daywith everyone and and yourself, yourself
and yeah, your your pets andyeah yeah yeah, okay, let's dealt
with everybody,
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