Truth Wanted 08.27 with ObjectivelyDan and Chris Mallard

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, folks, got a theory, got a proof? Did you
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(00:23):
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(00:44):
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of religion and government. Never single week, I always try
to have a special guest. This week is no different, folks.
It is Smallard joining the show today. Chris. Welcome back
to Truth Wanted. It has been a hot minute, sir.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
How are you you know I'm doing good. Thank you
for having me back. Dan. I know it's been it's
been about six years since I've been with you on
the shows, on the show with Kelly a few months ago,
six seven months ago, but me and you, man, it's
been a long time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20):
Because I was thinking about yesterday and I was like,
when was the last time, Chris, because I know you
were on. I was like, well, long ago was that? Yeah?
It was before COVID twenty nineteen was when that was,
which is crazy, crazy to think about that. But thanks
for coming back to the show. Happy to have you today.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
Thank you. You know, a lot has happened since then, goodness, gracious.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Man, Yeah it happened. Oh gosh, gee whiz. A lot's happened,
and a lot of it not good.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
I didn't want to put too a point on it,
to a.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Point on it, you know what. Yeah, you're right, Y're right, Yeah,
but regards some good things, some good things for both
of us, I'm sure. And I want to talk to
you about what you're you've been up to since then,
because you've got you got some new projects up in
the works. But before we do that, we have to
talk about last week's results. Of the We Want the
Truth segment because every single week we're asking you guys

(02:13):
a question or a prompt, and Kelly is going to
be joining us here to give us that question what
we asked in just a second, Hey Kelly, what's up? Kelly?
You are muted and you're like super muted right now.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
That's what I know.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
He's he's looking fresh though.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
I was talking like an angel.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
But yeah, you're looking fly though today as usual, Kelly.

Speaker 3 (02:38):
So thank you very much. So I was going to say.
What I was saying when you couldn't hear me, was
that this is not last week's question because we weren't
here last week because of the striday. What it is
from the question from two weeks ago, and and it
is what is an offer that Jesus can't couldn't refuse?
And your are our favorite answers are some good and

(03:00):
I'm already laughing. That's why man such a time of time.
A number three p. Schneider seven to eight says, an
offer Jesus couldn't refuse is a super cheap deal on
a long sut John Silver's franchise. That's pretty good because
everybody's going to be eating fish every Friday, Right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah, that's right, that's right. He was a investment yeah,
he was. Especially when you can multiply it, that's just
infinite profit, you know. And Jesus was. If there's one
thing I know about Jesus, he was very much into
making money. I think. I think he talked about that.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Quite yes, And he was very much about not giving
that money away.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Right, yeah, no, he was, he was. I remember he
went at the temple and you know, there was a
table there and he was like, how can I invest
in this business?

Speaker 2 (03:45):
Right?

Speaker 1 (03:45):
He was like he was really into that, that entrepreneurship.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Anyways.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Yeah, well there's actually this circular thing. You know, it's
really makes sense. Go to the rich and tell them
to give their money to the poor. Step one, go
to the poor, tell them to give their money to you.
Step two. If everybody follows the rules, you get the
richest money.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
I like a reverse trickle down economic situation.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
I'm in the business.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Yeah yeah, they go over right, Oh man, what's our
next one?

Speaker 3 (04:17):
Kelly number two from Alexander KTN. What's an offer? Jesus
couldn't refuse a three day money back guarantee on gravestones.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Yeah, yeah, he took advantage of that for sure. That
must have been really pitched when that happened. But hey,
what could you do?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Right? Can you see h rolling? I'm going, can I
get my money back on this? I mean, I'm not
dead here? I am here? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Here it is? Uh you know, anyway, that's a good one.
I like it.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
That is that's pretty creative and no God required great
name says what does an offer? Jesus could not refuse
a coupon to get his nails done for free at
a beauty salon graind thing.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
That's kind of that one. Yeah, okay, yeah, okay, all right.
At first I was like, O, wait, am I dumb?
I don't get it? I was like, yes, I am dumb.
I don't get it. And now I got it. And
now that's pretty good. I see why that was the
number one thing. Oh man, if guys, if there is
a hell, I think we are going. Yeah, okay, that's fine.

(05:26):
I've accepted that. Well, those are really good answers you
guys delivered these last two weeks. That's great. Maybe we
need to do a week off more often the collect
some more good answers. I don't know, think, Yeah, what's
the what's our number? What's our not number one? What
is our prompt for this next week?

Speaker 2 (05:45):
At week?

Speaker 4 (05:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (05:46):
What what do inner Circle atheists not want you to know?

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Chris?

Speaker 3 (05:51):
What do you what do you think they don't want
us to know?

Speaker 2 (05:54):
I don't think we don't want Oh wait wait wait
oh wait wait wait wait wait wait I thought I
thought I thought I was being asked as if I
was an inner Circle eight.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
Well, you could be on the inner circle, I'm not.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
When they posed me the question, yeah, okay, so I
was going to tell them what we the inner circle
of atheists because suddenly I thought I was in them.
I don't want you to know. Is the secret we're
keeping is that there's the growing underground black market trade
in picks and videos of R and Rad doing bikini

(06:27):
trown halls.

Speaker 1 (06:28):
Whoa a right man?

Speaker 2 (06:30):
Right exactly? If you know what a bikini trown hall is,
shame on you. Shame on you, because we know what
you're doing watching that stuff. Man.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
Okay, that's pretty that's pretty in depth.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
I know see why you do. I know he's all
disturbed that I left the secret out.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
It's not good. I was going to say the real
agenda of atheists. Isn't to make people atheists, but to
make more people play dungeons and dragons. That was what
I think the real agenda is about.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Okay, that's good.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Oh that's just that's my take.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
What about you, Kelly, I was thinking that mine's a
real simple answer that the inner circle is actually really
a triangle.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Okay, Like, is there more to that than just it's
a different shape or.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah, we don't. I mean we are pretty much nonconformists, right, Okay,
all right, an inner.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
Circle, I guess that works. That's a real thinker, Kelly.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
It's a think people jokes, Kelly, no smart people jokes.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
Yeah, yeah, clearly. I'm I'm I'm a bit delayed in
my understanding today, so it's not really it's not really
working in my favorite But hey, everybody gave great answers.
Thank you so much for our top three contributors. And
uh yeah, I can tell us in the comments below,
not in the chat, but in the comments. Uh what
do inner circle atheists not want you to know? And

(07:48):
we will read the best answers in the next episode.
Thanks Kelly, thank you, see you later.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
I'll see you later.

Speaker 1 (07:55):
Going back to you, Chris, uh again, happy to talk again.
What have you been not to deserve? Actually, let's start
with this because I think there's a lot of people
who have not seen you before, at least on this show,
So may let's start there. Who is Chris Mallard.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
I am the amazing super Chris. Thank you for having me, Dan.
I am Chris Mallard, the host of the Daily Atheist
Morning show, and we recently started another channel called Theocracy Rots.
Every morning Monday through Friday, we host a daily Eathey's
morning channel. It's lighthearted and fun. You know, We've got
a There are a lot of callin shows where Christian's

(08:32):
engaged with atheists and make for that kind of excitement.
We're less dramatic in that fashion. We try to be
fun and hard like a morning show.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
You know.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
I've got a co host. Her name is Ryan Caoltastic.
She's extremely funny, not as funny as me, though we
have rules about that sort of thing. She is smarter
than me and prettier than me and all those other things.
But I'm the funny one, so that's all it really matters.
It's you all out of mileage, oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
yea absolutely, But it's it's a lot harder to show
Monday through Friday. It's a lot of fun. I started

(09:03):
it about a year ago. Well actually I started it
in twenty nineteen, and we ran it for a year,
shut it down, burned out, you know whatever. But now
I'm back. We've been running it for almost a year,
and I'm not burning out this time. In fact, things
with the show are going fantastic. The Daily Atheist Morning Show,
at the damn Show, The Daily Atheist Morning Show has
we just now broke ten thousand subscribers.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
Yeah, and yeah, congratulations to that. That's a great like
you know, like with YouTube, it's always like the first
thousand is the hardest, and you did ten times that,
so there you go, Like that's that's a really great accomplishment.
And also doing a show. You know, sometimes I get
tired of doing this show and this is like once

(09:46):
a week. You do it five days a week. Yeah,
that's a big commitment. How do you handle that?

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Well, you know, I'm asturbaated a lot stress.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
I got that.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Okay, we're back in the first five minutes. I think
YouTube's okay with that, So.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
You know, that's not too bad a word, no, no, no,
you know, And now it's not that bad. I got
to be honest, I've got I've got the best chat again.
We try to keep it a lot harder. We joke
around a lot, and uh, my chat is hilarious. The
people who show up and visit in the mornings for
the Daily Atheist Morning Show are just fantastic, and that
the Daily Atheist Morning Show hosting it has led me

(10:26):
to meet so many fantastic people here in the atheist sphere.
I mean everybody from Mandisa, a black non believers, wonderful person.
You Dan, You're you're awesome, got to see your wedding photos.
I get to meet Seth next weekend. You know, we
can neverinx. It's just it's been a fantastic, exciting adventure

(10:47):
for me this last time getting it started up. And
I want to say that one of the things that
has changed thanks to the Daily Atheist Morning Show is
I mean, I got to go to the ark and
counter protest last weekend. I was the master of ceremonies
the MC, I got to introduce people, I got to
do everything I could. I tried to do everything I
could do not pass out.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, So I thought about this earlier this week because
I almost thought Kelly should have hosted this week because
Kelly also got to go to the ARC protests that happened,
and John John, also host of the show, was also
there and I was not. I did not get to
make myself out there. So I am very curious because
I've heard a lot of stories from Kelly about what's
happened so far. So what was your experience like going

(11:29):
to that protest?

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Well, it was stupid hot.

Speaker 1 (11:32):
Yeah, yeah, I believe it.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
And it was stupid hot. That's kind of well, you know,
it was one of those things where it's a needed message.
We really got to get that out. And it was
of course, all right, let's separate a couple of things.
One is the ARC and counter protest, of course, and
then the other one is the experience. Okay, I'd never
been to Kentucky before. I didn't know they had so
many trees. It is beautiful. Everywhere you go, it's beautiful.

(11:58):
There's these rolling hills and the green is fantastic. I mean,
it was all right, but with that comes humidity. I
have never experienced that kind of humidity.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
Man, Because when you were saying that earlier, I thought
you meant added of like nervousness, but you literally mean
like out of not having a heat stroke like that.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
Was my Yes, that was literally that was the wordy okay.
So so to give you a quicker rundow, and we started,
We're going to start at eleven am. I am going
to live streaming. So I've got a computer. Now I
don't really have a laptop capable of doing it, so
I brought a little computer. I literally had a computer,
a monitor, this whole thing that I lugged around. And
me and the sound guy, we're getting there, and then
they had to set up the stage. So they're like,

(12:41):
we're gonna set it up over here. Now it's at
least eighty degrees eighty five and the humidity was just
so hot. And then before it was over, I'm just
talking about in the beginning. You know, eight nine o'clock
in the morning, you're standing out there, no shade, and
so like, we're gonna set the stage up here, so
we move all our equipment over there. You know, we're
gonna move it. It's better, so we move it over
and we moved our equipment like four times.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
You know too. I heard that the Christians prayed for
the sun to stay still in one spot so that
they could beat down harder on you guys.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
I think it did.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, I think it did.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was stupid hot. It was.
And on top of that, though, I was also kind
of running around and greeting people, Hello, how are you doing? Welcome,
get on up here, you know. And I want to
be honest with everyone. Okay, I put in twenty years
on the off field. I've worked in the heat, but
it's a dry West Texas heat. But I know when
I'm getting too hot. I know how to how to chill,

(13:33):
how to cool down, you know. I know when you're
when I'm overheating, heat stroke. For reals, I am not
shitting you. Ask anybody there. It was hot. When we
finally started and we said go and I pulled the
first person up on the stage, I was already at
the point of being too hot, so hot. I was
just having a hard time thinking it was Ember. Ember.
I know Imber, but I had a little more prepared.

(13:55):
It was just so hard to even just do anything.
But it was so hot and so humid. I drinking water,
just going, oh, we have money towards her, we do.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
Yeah, And so folks, uh, if we crew we get
these on the screen, so I could I could read
that back again, that would be awesome. But yes, I
I I will go ahead and say this today. We
are going to bring back fun facts today, which means
we will interrupt each other with fun facts when super
chats are you.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Know, can only eat with their head upside down.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
Ready for that? Yeah, upside now that's yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Look at your and your shirt right, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
I am wearing some flamingos on this. I brought this
one back. It's been a minute.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
You know, interruption was on point.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
Yeah, you were good at that. That was great. I
should probably read the super chat though, if we if
that backed up, because I think kV would appreciate it.
You know, that's kind of kind of part of the
point with super chats, so you know, whenever they can
get it on screen in just a second. But yeah,
we will be interrupting each other with fun facts as
they come up. Oh, actually I have it here, typed

(14:59):
out it's KB gave five dollars, thank you so much
and said here's money towards hair dryers so the ACA
can hold a virtual unbaptizing ceremony. I would like a
certificate with hair dryers. That's pretty funny. Actually, yeah, how
does that work? You gotta get all the water off
of you or just like internally too. I don't know,
but I like it regardless, Thank you so much.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
Baptized Would that be like a car? Would that be
like a uh, you know when you get your car
washed and you go through it and it's starting. Yeah, yeah, blows,
just blows the baptized and yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah, but like we would like devil horns on it
and stuff like yeah, probably, I can see it. So
so you go out there and it's really hot, like
did you get to was there counter protesters? To the protesters,
was like, you know, what was the vibe? Like what
was going on?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Well, you know, I got to tell you we were
we were there, were there were they were talking, There
was threads. My understanding is it can't Hoven himself, the
whacken atheist man. The man was going to be there
with his followers, if you will. Yeah, and they were yes, yeah,
Also they they were a little concerned for their safety.

(16:06):
So I heard rumored. This is just somebody heard a rumor.
I'm telling you now, it's just a rumor. I heard
a rumor from the place that they were going to
bring some biker friends to protect them in case us
rowdy apheus got out of hand.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Okay, Christian bikers from a Christian bikeiza.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Y yeah, probably so yeah angels right, yes, but my
understanding is that Kent Hoven got lost and couldn't find
the place? What and did not know he printed out?

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Did he print out?

Speaker 2 (16:43):
Is?

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Did his copy of map quest get lost? What happened?
What's going on?

Speaker 2 (16:51):
You know, I don't know. It's all I heard that
somehow he got lost. I mean, I thought these guys
kind of knew right where their compounds, each one of
them more.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
I would imagine he's been there before, but maybe not.
That's kind of interesting, oh, some kind of Dicky says
kudos to Christopher's Sporting the Minnesota Vikings mug Skull and
gave us six dollars and sixty six cents. Fuck. I
was not ready for my fun fact. I'm not googling
things right now. Don't worry about it. It's fine. The
deepest part of the ocean is approximately thirty five hundred

(17:19):
and seventy six feet down, so that's pretty far down.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
That's pretty far down.

Speaker 1 (17:24):
Yeah. Yeah, it's like, you know, that's an okay fact.
Maybe I can do better next time. I'll try a
bad harder on the next one. But yeah, so, so
ken Holven was not there. Was there any other Christians
that were there? Like, were there people that didn't like
me being there?

Speaker 2 (17:41):
Well? There there was a little bit of an adventure
in that department too. So the Christians that were going
to counter protest did not show up. However, there was
at least one Christian who infiltrated us. Infiltrated, Okay, so
we there was. I did see Facebook posts from a
Christian who is a cool guy and wanted to on
our stuffice, so he came in. He talks. I'm not

(18:02):
talking about that guy, he's cool, okay, I'm talking about
there was a guy up on a hill overlooking the protest,
you know, live streaming with his own little phone there,
and he was talking about us, and he's like, what's
that sign say? And he said it says the genocide
and you know, reading our signs, I don't know what

(18:23):
I can say on the channel. Sorry about sorry as well,
but he.

Speaker 1 (18:26):
Was, whatever the hell you want, I've just I was
joking about that earlier, so go ahead.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
Okay, Well, well what he was like, he says, the genocide.
Incesse says Park, I'm sure they got a lot Like
he clearly doesn't know what's in Genesis and the Noah's
Ark story and why we call it the genocide and
incest clearly not. But where I'm going with this is
he said, And we've got Mike, I think his name
was Mike. Mike has gone down there and he's infiltrated them.

(18:52):
He's gonna let us. So they have this thing. You
can go find it on the interwebs. They have this
thing where I.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Don't think it's a I don't think it's infiltration. If
it's a public area that anybody can go to, right, Like,
it's one thing if you get into a conference or
a convention or something. I mean, I guess any mad
convice take it to those. But it's like, aren't you
guys just outside, Like can't anybody come in?

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah? Yeah, well I guess you know you could. Did
he come down there? Here's the thing, let's let's just
hask this out just a little bit. Did he come
down there and go, hello, fellow, if you too you
can not believe in God? Or did he go down there?
That's infiltration. Yeah, infiltrated us and let us misled us
to believe who he was or did he come down
there and he goes, you know, I'm a Christian. I'm
just curing what what's going on there? And I got

(19:39):
a crazy nutbag friend of he's recordings from up there. Yeah,
I mean, which one?

Speaker 1 (19:46):
That's really funny though. I heard that you did not
get to go to the museum afterwards, but some other
people got to go and look at that. So I've
that's definitely something I need to do one of these
days is actually check it out. But I bet it's
so much more fun. And when you have a bunch
of people with the on surprise they let everybody in.
I guess it's just money for them.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
But yeah, well I don't think that they are so
they don't let them in. I don't think they left.
I don't think they actually go into the park.

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Okay, so it's just yeah, that's right, the park, but
it was there, so there's a So this is what's
confusing because there's the arc it's like the arc en
Counter that's not where people got to go into. But
there's a creation useam which is separate from.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
The ark right, yeah, yeah, okay, we let people in there,
some really cool people.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
You know.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
That was just a group of peeps. Godless engineer is
evil one Casey, She's fantastic. I think the skeptic got
to go, Kelly, Kelly got to go. A few people
like that. Wasn't a big huge group of black protests.
Is just people going to have fun. That was before
the protest. That was the Saturday before and I just

(20:51):
I hadn't even gotten there yet on my plane, you know,
so I kind of just that far sounded like.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
My guys.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
The arc itself there, you've got the there's like where
the highway exit is. There's a little spots of grass
and rock, and that's where we do our thing down
the road about like a quarter of a mile, maybe
eighth of a mile, quarter of a mile. There is
a half a kilometer if you will. Okay, there was
I don't see French. Sorry, yeah, there was a our.

(21:18):
So it's about three hundred and seventy bananas.

Speaker 1 (21:20):
Oh all right, now you've got the interest.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
Okay, But but there's the arc and counter entrance where
you can go into the arc. Okay, So now the
tradition is after the Now that you can't even say
I could not see the Arc from the entrance. It's
dug in there like a tick. Okay. So so after
the protest, they walk down from our place there at

(21:44):
the intersection with their signs, hold up their signs to
the entrance, and then they do a little protest there
and it's like a little tradition. Okay. My understanding is
some people may go into the arc, but we don't
really go into the arc itself because we're not going
to give them money. Nobody's going to give them money.

Speaker 1 (22:01):
That yeah, it makes sense.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Right. Occasionally someone will give us or give out tickets,
uh free tickets, and then you can you might go in,
we you know, go do you boo, But but generally
they don't go in now this time, I am not kidding, man,
it was it was stupid hot. By the time the
show started, it was I was already over hot. It
was a two hour show of me bounce it around.

(22:23):
And whenever they're at the end, they're like, do you know,
go ask everybody if they want to walk down to
the to the Arc entrance. I'ms like, nobody wants to
walk down there. Apparently they did, so they they actually
did their thing, yeah, but I did not. As soon
as my part was over, I shut down my equipment,
put it back in my my rental car, and then
I got in the car and I did everything I

(22:43):
could to just not pass out in my car. I
sat there for fifteen or twenty minutes because I did
not trust myself to drive away. I was no, I
was that hot.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Wow, that you're okay, genuinely that that sounds like a
rosted especially if you're MCing right and you're giving speeches
and all that. So, uh well, I'm glad it sounded
like it was a fun time. I would have been
disappointed because I would have wanted to see Ken Hoven,
but uh oh yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
So yeah, I really I feel like I owed an
apology to all of the speakers because I had more
prepared for almost all of them. Like Jay Bundy, for example,
I walked out there. I wasn't familiar with Jay. I
walked out there, talked to him for a minute. I
got some information. By the time I got back to
the stage, I was having a hard time just remembering

(23:32):
what we just talked to. I'd get off the stage,
I'd be like, all right, you know, here's Jay. Jay's awesome,
and Jay, and then I'd get off the stage and
I'd go over in my head. I just sit over
and I drink water. Of course, I'm be going, Okay,
we got we got. I gotta tell them thank the
black Man, but point out that thing over there. I
just had to keep reminding myself of things to do
because my brain was boiling in its pan. It was
it was something else. And that's not even how, that's

(23:55):
not even how Joe tried to kill me. Joe, Joe
the Kentucky Apheus invited me to be the MC of
this event, and besides trying to kill me with heat stroke,
he also I mean, I'm like I was. I was
alone and scared, surrounded.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Yeah in Kentucky.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Play all right, just wait, just wait, let me tell
you this story. The day before the event, I show
up and I'm driving from the airport to the hotel
and I tell Joe. I'm like, hey, man, can I
come hang out with you? I want to help. I
want to help you get the generator and get the
stage or whatever you need to load up in the
U haul. He's like, all right, we're gonna be at
the B and B. Cool, can you give me the
address to BnB? He gives me the address to B

(24:31):
and B. He says, you'll see it because it's got,
you know, Ember's blue car out there. I'm like, okay,
I know what Ember's blue car. Like, what do I
do to look at you?

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Anyway?

Speaker 2 (24:39):
Yeah, So I get to the address and it's a
really nice looking house out in the sweaty Kentucky backwoods.
Kind of varies really nice, but it was, you know,
dug in. And so I go up there and I
knock on the door. And now, to be fair, there
was a blue vehicle out front, you know. So I
knock on the door and I hear these voices inside.

Speaker 1 (24:58):
I don't know what they're.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
Saying, you know. I ring the doorbell and I hear him.
When the neighbor comes over and and he talks to
me for a second, he said, I don't think that's
a B and B. And I'm like, all right, well,
let me call my friends. I call my friend Joe,
and I'm like, Joe, I'm here, man. I pressed the doorbell,
I knocked on the door. I hear voices inside. He said,
oh no, we were just in the back.

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Come on in okay, all right, So yeah.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
It was not Joe. It was not the right house.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
He said's house.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
I did not not Dan. I'm not as dumb as
I look. Oh no, I was from West Texas. You
don't walk into anybody's house. I wouldn't know, that's no.
But I'm like, dude, were you trying to get me killed?
This is freaking Kentucky and you're telling me to go.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
You need to come out and meet me in the front, right,
That's that's not how that works, right.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
And he did. I told I told him the address
I was at, and he's like, oh, we're it's three
hundred you know street. And he's like, oh we're we're
two ninety seven. He walks out and looks and I
see him back there and he's looking the other way.
He doesn't even know which were he's sent here or anything.
That was the beginning of my experience. I've given about it.
It's a lot of fun. You'll never forget it.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
Yeah, it sounds like you and uh, you've been really
tested that weekend. I think, uh, you went through some trials, you.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Know, trials and tribulations like miles right.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
Trialsribulations and other assortments of perils. But you're here, you're
you're on the show with us.

Speaker 2 (26:25):
So survived.

Speaker 1 (26:26):
Yeah, you survive. So that's really good that folks. I
need to remind you at home that this is in
fact a Collin show and we have open lines at
the moment. We'd love to talk to you. What's our
poll questions day. I already forgot what we said it was.
I think we're talking about government weather control stuff because unfortunately, uh,
you know, there's some been recent stuff happening with with

(26:49):
in the news about folks dying and actually very close
to where I live, uh, in the Curville area, and uh,
I've seen this and I know you probably have too.
A lot of people talking about weather machines. That's always
kind of been like a thing that people say, but
that was always like like not even Alex Jones talks

(27:10):
about that too much. Like it's just like it's out there,
real out there, right, like not a lot of investment,
but it's coming back because like TikTok's a thing, and
you know, people are crazy, and I don't know, it's
just kind of depressing that that that's how we take
things instead.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Of in her spring, doesn't it it does. Yeah, but
some people who the same people who believe in this
kind of weather control stuff don't believe in climate change.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
That is an interesting idea, right. I once went to
a website I wish you could do the name of it,
but it was all about conspiracies around geoengineering, right, which
is more than some of that includes weather modification stuff,
but also includes like people putting chemicals in the water
for things, and you know, like all all kinds of

(27:57):
stuff like that. And it's a whole subsection of sort
of the conspiracy you know, space that gets real weird
real quick, and like weirder than normal, right, because you
have people who you always hear about, like, okay, there's
like folks who pedal stuff like I ever met, and right,
who have like medical degrees and you think that's bad.

(28:18):
What's really weird is the engineers who are like, yes,
this is how they're building these super computers and these
supermachines that are effectively mind controlling you via I don't know,
radio towers and cell phone towers and stuff like, I
don't know. It's kind of bizarre, but yeah, that's the
world we live in now. That's more main street isn't
that cool? Isn't it great? Really wasn't going to get

(28:42):
down today, and then I started talking about it anyway.
I don't know, just been on my mind there, But anyway, Chris,
you you know, you have your daily show. You try
to keep things light in the air, so usually right,
I guess, I guess you don't all the time because
you talk about current events and stuff.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Right. If I'm may, I'll tell you we have I
have a coast on the show, Ryan Caltastic. She is wonderful.
Every day she does a little segment on the show
where we call it Theocracy Watch, and she will tell
us about what's going on in the world. She'll give
us a little news report. For example, whenever the conservtive
Christian conservatives in Oklahoma were trying to they actually got
it past the Supreme Court or whatever up to the

(29:19):
Supreme Court to fund a Catholic school. You know, a
lot of people didn't know about it, you know, this
kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (29:27):
She did not know about that until you told me
about that. Just now they are funding a Catholic school.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Okay, So the conservatives in Oklahoma tried to get it
to where they tried to get a bill, a law
bill passed. I'm sorry, I'm not terribly familiar with it
to where they could get federal funding for a Catholic church.
It failed, so they pushed it on up to the
Supreme Court. Okay, and the Supreme Court tied.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Four to four, four to four.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Can you believe four to four they would tie? Think
about that funding government funding for a for a religious church.
Why would they tie on that? Amy Kobe Barrett stepped
aside I believe in and didn't vote.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Four to four.

Speaker 2 (30:06):
That tells you they don't adocracy.

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Yeah, I guess they don't want to piss off Catholics
or something. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
But it did fail. But can you imagine can you
imagine the absolute floodgate that would have been opened had
that passed, because every little church, every big church, every
evangelical If the Catholic Church can get money and they're
one of the richest, you know what I mean, if
they can get our tax dollars for their schools here,

(30:33):
then every little church it's just gonna milk our country dry.
You thought we had financial problems, Well.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
Yeah, that's a good point. Wow, that's a bullet that
was dodged. We would have been talking about that if
that got passed, for sure, but for now, for now,
that's right, It's always only for now. But man, it's
why is it always Oklahoma? Dude? Like every single time
the worst religious news that happens in this country, it

(30:59):
is from Oklahoma. That is my opinion. I will not
be changing it, thank you. That is it. Like it's
it's proven itself time time again. Like who comes next?
Maybe Kentucky, I mean they got their stuff going on.
I don't know, Like Florida, Florida's Texas isn't great either,
but number one it's Oklahoma, got to be right. Maybe
Texas is number two actually because Texas has been rising

(31:20):
again and it really don't stuff, but you know.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
And Florida can't forget Florida. Florida is always Florida the
TOPI Florida the top.

Speaker 1 (31:29):
Five for sure. We need That's what we need to
do for a poll. We need to do a like
which one is? Like we need to rank choice voting
on which one is the worst offenders in people's opinions?

Speaker 2 (31:43):
I think true enough, But that's yeah. So we actually
started another channel called Theocracy Watch, and I'm building that
channel up and getting it going, and man, I gotta
say that's that's that's a very important topic. The Christian
Nationalists are really really on the ball. Organized, they got money,
They are imposing their fee upon us at every turn.
As a matter of fact, the panel I'm going to

(32:03):
be on at Nantocon next a couple of weeks from
now with Seth Andrews is going to be about the
Christian nationalism and the theotritcy. That's what I'll be speaking on.
And one of the things have you I don't know
if this is a lot of people have noticed their mind.
I want to go into too much of the politics
theocracy though, but if I can, there has been a
political party that has been making it easier for religious

(32:25):
groups to support that political party, and that yes, and
I don't know how much we can talk about those
things on the show.

Speaker 1 (32:32):
Many many, many have said this, many have said.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
This, Yes, it's a rumor.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
I think it's a rumor, right, I think that's fine. No,
I mean it's it's it's we are we are a
organization that is a pro the separation of church and state,
and so you know, we're always going to talk about
that every day the week. I'll be honest, Chris, I
feel more vindicated in the positions that I hold every year.

(32:56):
I really do, because of how bad Like, you know,
there are some people who politically maybe align with us,
but maybe, like on this kind of issue, maybe are
a bit more you know, I just feel differently about it, right,
maybe don't go as hard as we do. I feel
so vindicated every day when I see this uff. It's like, yeah,
this is the stuff that at least our community has

(33:17):
been talking about for years, years and years and years. Right,
It's been one of our pet issues as a community,
this sort of overreach, and it's happening. It's happening, you know.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
Whenever, Back in twenty nineteen, when I had the first
daily atheist morning show, Andy Hall, comedian was my co host,
and we had guests on the show all the time,
and we talked about this. We talked about politics more
than we talked about religion, and we did talk about
this a lot back then.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah, I'm of the opinion maydictaous.

Speaker 2 (33:43):
Oh I'm sorry, I'm just saying we saw this coming.
We were the guys standing on there, standing on our cars,
waving our arms, going, hey, this is going to happen.
This is going to happen. There's there are things that
are not right and they're happening, and we were called alarmists.
There were things we said on our channel if you
if you mentioned the mustache man too many times. But

(34:04):
how can you not whenever MSNBC and CBS and legitimate
news places are comparing, you know, referring to people as authoritarian, Uh,
you know these sorts of things. How do you not?
You know, but we predicted this years ago, a lot
of this. Yeah, to be honest, I didn't know it's
gonna be this bad.

Speaker 1 (34:22):
Well, I've said this, you know, on streams where I'm
more open about our political stuff. Because we are the
production of nonprofit folks, we have limitations and we respect that.
But you know, in other places, I've said, I don't
think you can do an analysis of religion in this
country without doing an analysis of politics. I really don't. Yeah,

(34:43):
I think you're understanding has to be informed with that
perspective in mind. There's a lot of people that complain
when we talk about politics, But it's like, yeah, what
what do you think we're here for? Like what you
think they changed? You think? I just want to like
shut her down all the churches nearby me, because I
just think they look ugly, like that's not what we're doing,
you know, like there's civil liberties involved and all kinds

(35:05):
of other issues. So yeah, it's supportin.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Well, you know, if they're by the same rules that
we go by as a five zero once. I say
we as if i'm the group, you know, because I'm
part of the guy now. But some of the rules
that we go by, where we're not supposed to say
certain things, is mere rude with them. They from their pulpits,
we're not supposed to mention certain things. But now that
leash has been removed, we still can't say certain things.

(35:32):
We can't go all in now. But the other side,
the Christian theocracy that's being imposed upon us can now
from the pulpit.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
That's right. In case you guys an't aware, there is
a recent the IRS put out a thing saying, well,
I think I went to this record, I don't know
all that. I can't remember the details I had. I'm
speaking contemporarily an improv to you rather, but uh, you know,
IRS basically said, hey, church is actually no, it's cool.
They can talk about politics like they can endorse it

(36:00):
and stuff MBD is what they said on that one,
and you know, it doesn't really work the same way
for nonprofits, I guess, even though the one time I
bought some equipment using the Atheist Community of Austin credit
card at best Buy and the lady was like, oh,
is this for your eighth Is this an atheist church?
So a lot of people think we're churches, so maybe
we can get it away with that, but no, not really. So, yeah,

(36:22):
it's it's not great. It's not great, Chris Well.

Speaker 2 (36:25):
Liberal left wing nonprofit organizations cannot publicly. It's not just us,
it's any of them that are a favel three. Well,
that's kind of the same thing. We're we're talking heads
about reason and you know, so we're but we're limited
when it comes to those things. Their side was to
the opposite of us, you know, coming from the public
used to be limited.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Yeah, really in practice, it's it's true, but at least
some of.

Speaker 2 (36:48):
Them were afraid of it. You know, there were a
lot how many pastors out there never did because they
were afraid of losing the tax exemption for their little church.
Threat was there?

Speaker 1 (36:57):
Yeah, Yeah, for sure, it's not. Yeahs are being torn
down every single day on that and it's not great.
But you know what, Chris, this is I'll call in
show and there are folks that want to talk to
us via calling in. Do you want to talk to
some people?

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Okay, well I guess yes, yes, absolutely, all right, let's
do it.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Before we get to that, folks, we have to talk
about the patron of the week because every single week
we're always giving a shout out to the folks that
donate on our Patreon. I like to give thanks to
everybody that donates to the patreoon, to the Patreon account.
But this week's patron of the week is going to be, uh,
the person that shows up on screen in just a second.

(37:42):
There we go, got get that graphic up ready. When
you are a crew, this week's patron of the week
is going to be Phantom X. Thank you so much,
Phantom X, and thank you to everybody that donates to
the show. You guys are really awesome for that. Uh
And with that out of the way, let's talk some calls.
Uh callers, I guess we're talking to that. Yeah, Fantom

(38:05):
Max is a cool online name. I gotta say, that's
a that's a that's a neat handle unless that's if
that's your government name, that's even better. I'm gon name
my kid Fano Max. Actually that'd be cool. But regardless,
we're gonna talk to Brent from New Mexico, and Brent
wants to talk to us about heart and weather control.

Speaker 4 (38:24):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
So, Brent, you are Live on Truth Wanted. What's going on? Hello, Brent?
Are you with us? Maybe you were waiting for a
little bit and need to get back to the phone.
All right, Brent, if you are talking, we cannot hear you.
Hopefully you're still there. I'm gonna put you back in
the queue so you have Yeah, Brent's not there, but
that's okay. We got some other folks that want to
talk to us. Folks. Uh, this is an ongoing conversation

(38:48):
that is going to continue to happen. It is John
from Canada, Uh, calling back onto Truth Wanted again and
John from Canada says he has an announcement for me. John,
you're Live on Truth Wanted. What's up?

Speaker 2 (39:00):
Well?

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Not hearing John either. We might be having here, we
might be having some issues on our side. Then may
not be our callers. So I'm putting that back in
the queue. And you know, Chris. That's interesting because we were
having some tech difficulties before the show started, and it
sounds like we're having some tech difficulties right now. But
that's okay because you know what we're working with it.

(39:21):
We're working with it right well, you.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Know if I can okay, dam Yeah. I actually went
back in research for this show. I went back and
watched last week's program with John the sketch. Oh nice, okay, great, Yeah,
that was good one. And in that conversation in that show,
I remember hearing about this John's story. It's John, right,
his name is John, John from Canada, caller John from Canada.
So congratulations John from Canada. I'll look forward to hearing

(39:45):
what you have to say. I appreciate what you've been through.
And for those of you who don't know, John from
Canada called last week and told about how he is deconstructing.
He didn't start out intending to be deconstructing. He was
an intikeate antagonist Christian caller for a long time. Yes,
but he's been reasoned away from his faith.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
One of the longest antagonistic callers we've had on this program.
Kind of crazy again. I told this story how behind
the scenes. I wanted to band John from Canada because
everybody would to talk about how they didn't like hearing
about calls from John because they thought he was a
lost cause. But I thought, well, doesn't that get away

(40:26):
from the spirit of the show. So I didn't end
up going through with it, and I guess I'm glad
that I did that because he sees me changed his mind.
Although maybe he's gonna call him today and say he's
a Christian again. I don't know. It's kind of hard
to tell with John. He's not the most consistent guy
on Earth. I will say that. But anyway, the crew
says they are still troubleshooting their issues, so we're just again,

(40:48):
we're free balling it today. Chris, it's you were alive
and you you do stand up? You know about improv? Right, yeah,
you know some stuff for you right?

Speaker 2 (41:00):
No, Well, I host the morning show five days a week, right,
I said, here, I got to come up with shit always.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Your show is what like an hour, it's two hours,
two hours every day, so you can do two hours
every day. You can do like a couple of minutes here.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Oh yeah, yeah, this is super easy, barely an inconvenience
I make lists because I forget things.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Yes, that's really again.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
One of the things I want to mention is that
next week, because we talk about these kind of people,
we already talking about him, Dan Barker, Quark remember never
seeing them together. Next week, I'm going to get to
meet Dan Barker. Now there's a story behind that. I
know he's probably fall fourteen fifteen years ago, I moved
to Albuquerque, and when I did, there was an atheist

(41:47):
convention kind of thing, and Dan Barker came to speak.
And I went down there. And now this is before
I had done any theater. I hadn't done any daily
This Morning show. I hadn't done anything. I had no
public speaking experience zero. And that's really one of my
biggest things. Okay, I just got to be honest. So
I went down there. I'd actually written my own book,
but I written I think I had written the home book. Yeah, anyway,

(42:10):
so I went down there. I bought three of his books,
and I got in line and I get down there
to Dan, and I'm so nervous that I forget to
ask him to sign his books. So I'm Chris nice
to be.

Speaker 1 (42:23):
But now later Redemption Arc you get to get signed, right,
that's what's gonna happen. Yeah, that's great.

Speaker 2 (42:29):
I got them taking them with me.

Speaker 1 (42:31):
Dan Barker was on again talking about how I can't
remember things. Dan Burger was on this program many years ago,
and I respect how that Dan. I think he's got
a cool story. So you know, good, good for you
for that. Yeah. By the way, you are talking about
upcoming event in nanocon which I'm not gonna be able
to go, but some other atheist community of Austin folks
are going. So you know, I'm jealous for you guys. Uh,

(42:54):
you know, we got a good job that you get
to do that.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Well, you got the back Cruise coming up soon, don't you.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Come it up for real? Soon? It's like next month,
so we are, and I actually have a plug about that,
so I guess I could talk about that all we are.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
I just want to ask. Yeah, I mean, I love
the idea and I'd like to come to the Back Cruise,
but there's only one hiccup and maybe you can work
with me on this.

Speaker 1 (43:17):
Okay, all right, I'm in Texas, in Texas.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
So if you could move it like anywhere else New Mexico, maybe.

Speaker 1 (43:25):
I think I think that's going to be a non
negotiable because like it is, so it's a boat and
it's got to be on water that we don't have
water here. There's no water. We got to move the
boat from the water to the other water.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Okay, I don't.

Speaker 1 (43:44):
Think the river's okay.

Speaker 2 (43:46):
It's a little late this year for that too.

Speaker 1 (43:48):
It's a little late for that. Yeah, we are a
month about it.

Speaker 2 (43:53):
We can get a prayer circle going.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
But if you are willing to go to Texas, you
should come because Iugust sixteen, twenty twenty five is the
Back Cruise, is an annual event that we do with
the atheist community of Austin. J Mike was going to
be there for us. Vouke is gonna be there. I'm
going to be there. So check that out. Get your
tickets while they still last, and there's a little graphic
we've got going on for that if in case you
don't know, Congress Avenue Bridge has a lot of bats,

(44:19):
So we take a boat out and we look at
the bats. They come out pretty much every day around
sunset and it is it is a cool thing to see.
Plus they'll be probably some hangouts and stuff around that time.
As well, So if yeah, come check it out and
watch the shows on the Sunday after because every week
at the Free Thought Library you can catch a live

(44:39):
viewing of Talk Heathen and the Atheist Experience. The doors
open at eleven and it is free, and there's usually
like food there and stuff. It's pretty cool. You get
to meet people who are in the community, and lots
of people travel to come see it. So yeah, check
that out if you haven't already. I also should say
that we are of course reading super chants as well,

(45:00):
so check that out. And I would mention the crew
and say, hey, check out the crew can but they
are working on some stuff right now, and I'm gonna
let them do their thing, you know, so that we
can have an actual calling show. Otherwise this is just
a regular podcast, you know.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
So I want to say in the in the group chat,
the very first message I saw today was hey, for
some reason, the sound isn't working.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Yeah, like I said, we were troubleshooting some stuff. And
so so here's a little inside baseball for you guys. Okay,
so you know us and Greg are you know, executive
ducer of the show. Greg is like, you know, whenever
there's technical issues, just don't acknowledge them, don't ever say
anything when it happens. And for the most part, I've

(45:45):
tried to follow that. Unfortunately, sometimes they take ups where
it's like, okay, well you kind of have to say
something because there's a show happening, and they're the thing
that's supposed to happen on the show isn't happening. So
you know, we do our best with what we can,
but you know, it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (46:04):
And they are busy. These guys are busy. I just
want to let you remind everybody out there that we
have a we do have a goal going. Yes, it's
a competition goal for super chat. So if you give
us the super chat, we will interrupt each other if
we on purpose with a with a.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
Fact that's right, or you know, you can use your
super chat as an opportunity like a call in. If
you have a question for us, you know we can
we can talk about that. That's that's another way to
do it again. It's it all goes to the atheist
green of Austin. Well a little bit to YouTube. When
you get super chats, you know we're not taking home
that money. That's my point okay. So me and Chris

(46:39):
heare we do this for free? Uh, and so we're
about that life.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Uh, this is for free.

Speaker 1 (46:45):
Yeah, you get that.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
Yeah, I know, I know. No, that's awesome. That's that's
part of it though. That's one of the wonderful things
about the a c. A is that, you know, without
the a c A, there's so many voices, so many
people out there who would not have heard the atheist
message and voice. I mean, ACA has been representing for decades.
How long how long has the ACA been doing the
thing at the post?

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Oh, oh my god, you're putting me on the spot here.
It started in the nineties, and I don't remember exactly
what year. I think it was ninety three or ninety four.
I could be wrong, I know, right, So here, okay,
So here's a little story time. Because the atheist community
of Austin started as a bunch of people hanging out
at a coffee shop and then the show. All the
old broadcasts of the show, the ones that went viral

(47:28):
before people even called videos viral, were filmed in the
public access studio station that they had here in Austin, Texas.
And then in twenty fourteen, they actually tore that building down,
so the ACA basically bought a house and converted that
house into a studio. So shows from around that time

(47:49):
onward were and actually they were doing a little bit
before that, but like you know, a lot of those
are are filmed in that that studio. That's that's the
building that you go to if you want to see
it live, you know, and do that. So it's it's great.
But one fun fact about that place where they used
to film it is it was in the same place
where Alex Jones used to film his show. He was

(48:10):
literally like, uh, right next door. And there's at least
one clip of Alex Jones calling in and and talking
to one of the older hosts from way back in
the day, and uh they and even then they were like, hey,
aren't you like next door to list don't you have
any showing in Thising, Which is great because I don't know.
It's fucking Alex Jones, like he's he's uh wild, he's

(48:32):
wild for that. So uh yeah, So there's some fun
little history there. We see what the cruise trying to
tell me here. They think that the phones have been
straightened out, so we're gonna try talking to our callers
right now. One Barrent I think is back in Uh
the Q maybe, but I do see John is John

(48:53):
is right to talk with us. So John, let's see
if this works. You are alive on truth wanting. Can
you hear us? Yeah? Nope, hear you go there it is.
I was like, oh man, it's still not working, but
we got you. What's going on?

Speaker 2 (49:05):
John?

Speaker 4 (49:05):
Well we start. I want to ask you your partner,
Chris Mallet or something. Mister Mallet, how are you?

Speaker 2 (49:10):
I am wonderful so far, but I'll get over it.
Thank you for asking. How there's a delay? Brother?

Speaker 4 (49:16):
I'm doing well.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (49:17):
Are you an actress? Are you an actor? You look familiar.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
I am an actor. I am. Yeah. You can find
me on IMDb under the name Chris Black. I do theater.
I was going to have an audition for Shakespeare next weekend,
but I've decided to shelf that so I can focus
on other things. But yeah, I'm an actor. Uh, sag
after actor. You can find me in movies like The
Curse and The Covenant. Uh, in such features as The

(49:43):
Curse and the Covenants. And was that Troy McClure. Hi,
I'm Troy McClure. Yeah, Hello, Well, thank you for knowing that.
That's awesome. I appreciate that. Yeah, I've I've done a
couple of things.

Speaker 4 (49:54):
You where you where? Where are you? Where are you
on the TV show Revenge?

Speaker 2 (49:59):
Uh no, no, I was not. And oftentimes I get
people say I look like actors other actors, President Snow,
I get that a lot from President Snow from the
Hunger Games.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
Oh yeah, I could see that, all right, Yeah, I
like that.

Speaker 4 (50:14):
Okay, so it.

Speaker 2 (50:15):
Could be that.

Speaker 1 (50:17):
Well, John, we got the movie Trivia and the TV
show Trivia out of the way. What did you want
to tell me because you said you had an announcement
for me?

Speaker 4 (50:25):
Oh okay, Well I'm about to say is Oh I can't.
It's been hard that I would be this. This is
a very big Stepney, But I really feel that I
already feel that I am. I am an atheist.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Now that's a big deal. That's a big deal, my friend.
How does you're nervous about that? You don't you don't
like talking about that at least, or maybe you're not
comfortable with that yet. You're still kind of uh thinking
about that? Is this is this like a new I
guess it's a new feeling for you.

Speaker 4 (50:58):
Right, Yes, you have to, you have to. You have
to understand this is what I was, This is what
I was raised with, That is why I believed all
my life. And it was like, well, it was my
religion and it was it was my entire it was
a part of my identity. And for me to say
that this is very, very very difficult.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Yeah, I totally get that. And I can tell you
why because I was also a Christian John and you know,
before I was talking about this stuff publicly, it was
hard to say that I allowed to myself. It was hard
to say that allowed to my friends and family, let
alone saying it on an internet live stream to a
bunch of people.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Right.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
So I totally get that, and that's why I totally
want to meet you where you're at. And I don't know,
I'm just I'm really happy for you that you get
to be honest with yourself in the space. What's it like? Now,
what's it like? What's the difference?

Speaker 4 (51:50):
Well, the difference is, on one hand, I feel clear,
I feel like there are no more restrictions and I
don't have well I want I have no fear of hell.
But I had a still a fear of hell. I
also feel like I'm doing my betrayal, betraying who, my friends,
my family, everyone who's ever believed in me.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
Yeah, yeah, I can see that, Chris, what do you think.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
One of the things is I can understand the notion
that you might feel free of some restrictions. There's a
common trope that some feists tend to throw at atheists
is that we just want to be atheists because we
just want to sin. That's not true. So I do
like to point out that you, indeed are you are free.

(52:35):
You're free, You're there's no longer an invisible creature looking
over you, judging you all the time. That fear now
is gone. We do live in a society, though, and
you still have to follow the rules of a society.
The restrictions of the theists and the faith you believed
in are gone, but there are still restrictions. But I

(52:55):
only want to mention that because there are a lot
of times we as atheists from Christians, get the accusation
that we just want to break the rules, we don't
want to follow the rules, or how can we even
follow the rules or know what the rules are, what's
right and wrong without religion. Well, you know what's right
and wrong, and I could be wrong, but whenever you
were saying it, it sure sounds that there's a little
bit of a relief in your voice. You sound a

(53:17):
little bit relieved, right a lot. Yeah, Oh yeah, what's
very brave of you.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
I have to say, yeah, John, Wait, yeah, So we're
having a little bit of an extra delay, way more
than we normally do, and that's probably related to some
of the tech issues that we're having. So I'm just
going to say something and I want you to kind
of respond whenever you hear be you know, done talking here.
Right the first week of me saying I'm an atheist

(53:42):
out loud, I've told the story before. I had a
dream where I there's a bomb that was going to
go off and I had to accept that God was real,
otherwise I was going to go to hell. And I
had this dream several times that same week. And some
people might have interpreted that as a sign that, hey,
I need to repent. I would take this as a

(54:02):
sign that I had so much anxiety over this decision,
and I agonized this for so long that I really
felt a pressure there that was not only affecting me
consciously but even subconsciously, and in my opinion, John, it
sounds like that you're going through something that's pretty similar
because your belief wasn't just you. You've said this right,

(54:23):
it was your community, it was your upbringing, it was everyone.
Mostly everyone that you've known in love probably also felt
similarly or along similar lines. So I can totally see
how that feels like betrayal. And you probably are seeing
all the psychological barriers that are in place for you
to keep you in right and have been keeping you

(54:44):
in for a long time. And it's why opportunities like
this where you get to say out loud, hey, I'm
an atheist and I don't believe this more. It's why
it's so rare, because there are so many barriers that
prevent people from from leaving this. And if I could
convince the atheist community of one thing, it's to understand
stand that, it's to understand how much more this thing
is besides just accepting whether something is true or not.

(55:06):
There's a lot of barriers that get in the way
of that. But that's that's my thoughts on that, John,
What do you think.

Speaker 4 (55:14):
Well, I'm going to have I'm going to have a
lot of thinking to do.

Speaker 1 (55:18):
Yeah, yeah, probably so, but I'll tell you this, Ai, Yeah,
go ahead.

Speaker 4 (55:24):
Well a lot of time I've been trying to hold
onto it. But after arguing with you guys, I realized
that I couldn't well, I got I had to say it.
I couldn't beat you guys because everything said made sense.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
I was just thinking it anymore. I'm sorry, I was
thinking that. I was actually making a note about that
just a second ago. John. And then now that you've
you've changed. I mean, you met these people because you
were coming in and debating and I want to say,
arguing and debating and challenging these people, and like you
just said, they kept beating you. But you know what's

(55:57):
actually happened is now if you you'll be on the
other side. Before you were defending an indefensible position. As
you can see how illogical a lot of the faith
is and how hard it is to defend, you know,
all the you know, you know the things that these
atheists have been talking about. Now you're on the other side.

(56:18):
Whenever you start to debate people, you're gonna be on
the You're gonna have more confidence going into debates because
you're gonna be using science and facts and reason, and
I just I feel like you're gonna have a better chance.
You clearly have the dedication.

Speaker 1 (56:31):
Chris, what a great point, because it is easier to
be on our side if they really don't have to.
We don't have to do the sort of mental gymnastics
that kind of comes with apologetics. Right. I'm not saying
that every issue is easy. There's some stuff that it's
difficult to talk about, but like a lot of it
is if if I'm being honest. So yeah, John, like

(56:52):
you're you know, that anxiety that you're experiencing. I can't
promise you that that's gonna go away soon, but I
can say that it did go away for me, and
there's a lot of people that it goes away for.
So it does get better, my friend, it really does.
So I'm just I'm I'm just happy for you. I
really am, because this has been God, this has been
a long time coming. John. You know, you realize how

(57:13):
long you've been calling this show. I don't even remember
how long. It's been literally years now, and here you are.
I you know, I'm starting to become a believer that
this is a real story for you. I know I
was skeptical too, but yeah, maybe maybe this is where
it's at. I don't know. I'm just happy for you, John,
that's all.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Congratulations, Okay, okay, well thank you.

Speaker 4 (57:34):
Well, I'll I will leave you to your show and okay, well,
I just want to say good good night, good luck,
and and maybe maybe it will out for you.

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Thanks John, you too, We'll see later. That's you know what.
This is one of the first times I get off
the phone with John and I'm actually looking forward to
hearing from him again.

Speaker 2 (57:57):
Yeah. Really, I was eager when I heard it was
John from Canada and I'd watched last week's show. It's like,
oh man, I'm ready to hear what this guy say.
I'm glad he called back. I'm glad they got everything fixed.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
I won't say that. There's other call in shows. I
know of at least one, because John is called into
several shows, and I know of at least one that
said that they didn't want to talk to John anymore
because they thought that John had some kind of mental
illness or John was just not well with himself, right,
And I can see that perspective. You can't really make

(58:27):
judgment calls. He can't make diagnosis just by talking to
people on the front, right, And I could also see
why a guy like John, because John, okay, he's nice. Now,
he's kind of a mean guy sometimes was not always
nice when he talked to people, So there is an
element of that too. But I don't know, Man, this
is kind of crazy, but.

Speaker 2 (58:45):
We all get passionate, you know, And it is crazy
even now with any luck he's going to bring. Now, personally,
I feel there's gonna be a moment of decompression where
he's just gonna need to kind of chill. But based
on this limited amount I know about him and his tenacity,
I have a feeling he's could end up being quite
the voice for atheism.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
You know.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
I don't think calling, you know, argutting the other side. Now.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
I also don't think, you know, because most of us
don't have to be activists, right, you know, I think
there's a freedom in just living your life the way
that you want to live it. Right, There is there
is a pressure to doing speaking publicly, so I don't
I don't want to push John into anything he doesn't
want to do.

Speaker 2 (59:25):
You know. Well, no, I just meant like, now, how
he met you and the tenacity and the way he
was engaging against the other people. Yeah, you guys, now
he's on the flip side of that and he can
look forward to being and being active and was he
is he gonna now call Christian shows?

Speaker 1 (59:43):
Is that's what's gonna happen?

Speaker 2 (59:45):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (59:46):
Man, I don't know. I just want John to be happy,
that's all. Because there you go, like seriously, I keep
saying it, but like I I've worried about this guy,
and he seems like he's figure out. And that's that's awesome.
It's what we do. It's what it's what I do.
It's what I want to see happen. And it's very
rare that we always get to hear that on the air, right,

(01:00:08):
we always hear about sometimes we'll hear his stories about
we talked to people and then they think about it
and they come back. You know, I mean, look, but
but this is this is something really special. I got
to say, Yeah, maybe are we the show that cracked
John from Canada? Maybe so maybe we.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Did, but helps help to Canada.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
You're absolutely right. I was immediately going to correct myself
because it's not us, right, John is the one that
did that work, And I figure that out for himself,
so all the credit goes to John. I'm glad we
could help, right, but that is what it is, so man,
that that's just a crazy thing. We do have Brent
who wants to talk to us from New Mexico. Now

(01:00:48):
we're going to be switching gears here because Brent wants
to talk to us about HARP and weather control and
was trying to call it earlier. Brent, you are live
on truth wanted Now what's going on?

Speaker 4 (01:00:58):
Well?

Speaker 6 (01:00:58):
I mean, yeah, I wanted to your show back on topic,
but I can't believe that I have to follow up
John's d conversion.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
That's messed up.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
I've been followed, but I.

Speaker 6 (01:01:07):
Know john story is just wild and the proof is
in the pudding. So I've heard some pretty foul stuff
come out of him, and I really hope it sticks
and he continues to search. But yeah, I didn't really
want to follow up after that.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:01:25):
They was a project, the High Altitude Aerial Research Project.

Speaker 2 (01:01:30):
MM with's that, Oh no, go ahead? The delay, brother,
the delay is pretty bad, bruin.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
But I agree with you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
I agree with you.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
It is a hard act to follow. Okay. I don't
envy you, but yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (01:01:43):
Thank you, thank you, thank you all.

Speaker 1 (01:01:45):
Love the John.

Speaker 6 (01:01:46):
I really hope it turned is. But so yeah, there
was the High Altitude Aerial Research Project, I think it
was up in Alaska, and it was running for I
think most of the nineties and most of the oughts,
and it was the idea of using electromagnetic waves I
think it was microwaves and they would broadcast the upwards
and it would heat up the ion a sphere. And
there was this great conspiracy theory running around out there

(01:02:09):
that this was the way they were controlling the weather
to prevent hurricanes from hid in the United States, and
in the best post talk ergo Procter Hawk I think
I've ever heard. As soon as they shut down the program,
we had one of our worst hurricane seasons in like
a while. And it is just a wonderful example of
how conspiracy theorists will use anything that they can grab onto.

(01:02:33):
And these conspiracy theories go hand in hand, right the
Elders of Zion whatever nonsense, and the weather control I
mean about Jewish space lasers. So I just wanted to
bring up to like these things weave together. This is
not an isolated incident. This is anti science this is
the conspiratorial mindset. And also it's an honor to be

(01:02:53):
one of you, Dan, because I feel if I'm preaching
to the choir and learning from the master on this one.

Speaker 1 (01:02:57):
Listen. One thing you should know is HARP is so active,
like they've they've been under control for so so there's
been different programs that this is, this is how you
know I'm in too deep. So HARP is like, uh,
it's been as a research facility. Different people have done
research with it, right, So it's it's had different sort
of people coming in and out. The thing with HARP

(01:03:19):
is like it's they are because they are so remote
and because they they do work for the uh, they've
they've done research for the national government. Not everything they've
done has been public. And so whenever you have a
thing that's not public, like people just freak out. It's
like area fifty one, right, like, oh wait, what are
they doing? What's happening? And then and then you have
the people who say, oh, I used to work at

(01:03:39):
such and such and this is what's going on. And
I knew a guy and he said and so one
thing about conspiracy theories, as you mentioned, right, is that
and I love I love it.

Speaker 6 (01:03:47):
Oh, the area of fifty the area fifty one was
a huge thing. Yeah, yeah, the area fifty one was
a huge thing. And then it came out that that's
where we were actually testing the self fighters that were
later we like seen in person, and everyone was like, well, no, no, no,
it's still aliens. Yeah, it's just there's nothing that's going
to satisfy their conspiratorial mindset.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Sorry, no, it's okay. The delays bad today, but we're
working through it, folks, we're working through it. So, so
the thing with about Harp and all this stuff is
that there is a conspiracy. People who believe in conspiracy
theories are a market. They are a market, right. You know,
it's very rare that you meet somebody who's really into
one theory and just that theory and not into anything else. Right,

(01:04:25):
So these conferences, these book writers, they're just like the
atheist community, where one person knows another person and kind
of knows another person. They're a bit insular. And so
the folks that talk about Heart, they're also talking about,
as you mentioned, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion,
which is as a you know, a Nazi piece that
was basically written from the perspective of Jewish people supposedly
taking over the world. That absolutely, like isn't true, right?

(01:04:48):
So yeah, like you look at posts like Marjorie Taylor
Green talking about Jewish space lasers, and you wonder where
that's coming from. But it's they all share the same seeds,
Like it's coming from this same sort of community that's
peddling this kind of stuff and profiting off of it.
It's it's not just for nothing, right, But anyway you
Alex Jones.

Speaker 6 (01:05:08):
Yeah, no, absolutely, I mean I don't really necessarily like
to see the analogy, but like it's a spider web, right,
it's these it's these these weird little corners of internet
conspiracy theory, racism, eugenics, you know whatever. Pick your different
things and they sort of work their way and connect
each other. And of course you're right, like it's follow
the money, follow the money, Like how else do you

(01:05:30):
explain it? Yeah, no, it's really interesting now, thanks Dan,
Sorry Chris.

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
I'd like to throw a wrench in the plant the
little conversation if I could, though, just for fun, can
I be fun? Let's be fun. I want to be
naughty for a reason. Yeah, I actually believe it's because
I'm a scientist. I'm actually a transgienist, if you know
what that is. And I love science and I love
the possibility of technology. I believe it's scientifically and technically

(01:05:55):
possible to control the weather on the planet, all of it.
I don't see why. I mean, eventually, now, can we
do that? Now? No? Can the government from the nineteen
sixties and seventies it built hard? No? No, No, I'm
just saying I think, technologically, why wouldn't it be possible
with enough technology, science and so forth? Two hundred years
from now, one hundred and fifty years.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
From Noah, Sure, absolutely.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:06:16):
When you look at the advancement, the acceleration of technology,
you start looking at Cardishev scale, you know, Cartershev scales zero,
and then Carter has scaled one. And we started controlling
literally the weather because we have control of that enough energy. Sure, yes,
is it possible? I don't know, Bob, we get there.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Fuck yeah, yeah, right right, yeah. I just wanted to
throw that wrench in there, though. Yeah. Yeah, I don't
believe it. I don't believe that we are doing it.
I don't believe anybody's out there actively controlling the weather.
I'm just saying, technically, scientifically, I think it's possible. I
want to ask real quick. That sounds like a familiar voice.
That's Brent from Best Brent a from New Mexico.

Speaker 6 (01:06:50):
Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's me. I'm never king you,
giant man.

Speaker 2 (01:06:56):
I actually have met this caller in person. I'm not
as tall as Dan, but I've met him. And I
happen to notice we've got normally on my show. Clearly
if this morning show, I really spend a lot of
time calling out the chat, the people in the chat
and talking to him, and to not do so has
just been painful for me. But we've got a lot
of members, a lot of damn followers from the show

(01:07:17):
are here to not thank you, Brent, and sorry and
all you other wonderful people who I have not gotten
to say hello to, John Hudson, Amber, everybody out there
who normally as shout out whenever I run a show. Sorry,
thank you for all, thank you all for joining us.
But yeah, Brent, nice to talk to you. Oh yeah
see Dan, I'm six three.

Speaker 6 (01:07:36):
Yeah, thank you. It's good exact too, And yet go hey, Brent,
sorry about that. Yeah, he's six of have no idea.
How did I'll tell you or Dan, I'm just you know,
normal size. You guys are weird, but that's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:07:49):
He's in normal here.

Speaker 6 (01:07:51):
I was going to say thank you for the insights
of this idea of the interconnectedness, especially with the like
feed in of the money the conferences. I didn't think
about their conferences that is, that's just that's amazing. Uh So,
I guess to wrap it up, HARP isn't real, but
it's still active. And yeah, they're three leveler and full
letter and five letter agencies, and conspiracy theorists are always

(01:08:13):
going to feed into that, aren't they.

Speaker 1 (01:08:15):
One definitely agree with that, especially when it comes to
another big thing with Harper is like government spending, right, people,
A big thing with HARP was that the funding for
it is the same funding that goes to DARPA and
other like military projects, and so that's part of the
reason why people say it's like a weapon and stuff. Right. So,
any anytime there's the government isn't telling people something, there's

(01:08:38):
always going to be conspiracies around it, whether there's legitimate
reasons or not for the government not to make something
public like it's it's going to be there, and there's
going to be people that profit off of it. I mean,
that's just that's an inevitable thing, like death and taxes.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
So that's my take on it. Any closing thoughts there, Chris.

Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
No, you know, a sucker every minute.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
P T.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Barnum kind of you know what, Maybe we're just not
I'm just saying, Dan, we're not casting our nets in
the right department. There are a lot of gullible people
out there.

Speaker 1 (01:09:11):
Listen. I thought about this so much. Listen, because it's like,
I've got like you and I, we have precedent online. Okay,
we wouldn't just be coming out of the woodwork like
we've got us on the other side to be like, look,
I was an atheist of it. Now dude, I believe
in God and uh arm is creating lasers that are
going to be shooting at people. I don't know, Like,

(01:09:32):
I like, we could have yeah, one day, one day
when I when I'm desperate for money and and I
need to make it work, you know, that'll be my
change of heart. But for now, I'm okay doing this
for free.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Can you imagine how set for life, how absolutely set
for life? Ken Ham would be, or Kent Hoven would
be if they actually stepped across the line. If you
know what I'm you've convinced me and they just came over,
they'd never work again. They'd have books they.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
Can right, can't Hoven as guest on Atheist Experience, right
talking to him about that? That'd be sick. That'd be
so cool. But they'll never do it then never, No, no.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
But I mean just imagine Ken Hooven deconstructing like John
did it, and then I'll you know, like, yeah, that
would be crazy. Not that I really do it. I'm
just saying doing it for the money, right.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
No, Yeah, no, that's yeah. The money in atheism famously really.

Speaker 5 (01:10:20):
Good in the Act of this world, right, super super good,
which is why we get paid so much to do
the show brand Normally, I give you a chance to
give your final thoughts.

Speaker 1 (01:10:30):
I'll let you go. We are having some delays tonight,
so I'm just gonna cut you off here in just
a second. But thank you for calling, and thanks for
for for chiming in. We do appreciate it, and I
hope you do call in again some other time. Yeah,
have a great one. Yeah, these delays make it real awkward.
So I'm I'm I'll tell you this, Chris some more
insider baseball. I don't like having more than like a second,

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no more than two seconds of silence when it comes
to this thing. I think it's just good podcast or
sort of policy where you don't want dead air. This
is killing me today. This is killing me so bad.
I don't like it. I don't like the dead air
because I have the need to fill in the space.
But you know, what are you gonna do?

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
And when you start filling in the space? That's Star
sends in late words to him. He starts to speak
the words from over. He's oh man, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:11:20):
It's a hot mess. Express. It's a hot mess Express.
I'm not about it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:24):
But you two people though, for working us. Yes. Good.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
We gotta get thanks to the crew. And you know,
I didn't get to do this earlier because they're fixing stuff.
But I think we got stuff mostly fixed.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:11:34):
Can we get a crew cam crew to thank the
crew that are yeah fire, Oh oh, all these people
hanging out doing fun, stuffy. There's a lot of people
at the building right now watching. That's crazy. I didn't
realize that. Uh, that's that's fun. Someone was about the
point at me. I didn't see who that was, but
they were about to make some sort of gesture. I
don't know who good or bad. But anyway, man, we

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have open lines at the moment, and you know, with
the delays and stuff, I'm comfortable letting folks know that, Hey,
in a little bit, we are going to go to
an after show. So Kelly's going to be there and
Chris is going to be there, and so if you
want to talk to them on the fan run discord server,
you can certainly do that. That's going to be available

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as a link in the description to the show as
well as I can say it a lot. It's tiny
out CC slash a CD discord. It's also on the
screen right now, so you guys should check that out
in just a bit. And Chris, I just want to
thank you again for being on the show today. A
little lighter on the calls, but hey, you know what,
I thought it was great, especially talking to John. I
mean that's just revelatory, honestly.

Speaker 2 (01:12:41):
Yeah, well, you know, I appreciate the opportunity. Yes, of
course it is a call in show, but I appreciate
the opportunity to catch up to you know, see what's
been going on and to talk, you know, because it's
been great. And I gotta say, though, way to go you.
I have seen people come into my show and they'll
they'll they'll talk about how their deconfrastruction story is. There

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have been a couple of people who said, I, you know,
have been an influence on there. But to have somebody
actually come on and be and you've walked this guy
through years apparently of conversations and now you're you're finally
there as John is deconstructing best just fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:13:18):
Listen, it's not me, it's it's John.

Speaker 2 (01:13:20):
It really is John work here.

Speaker 1 (01:13:22):
And I'll tell you what John's called into other Collin shows.
I know they've been doing some work on him too. Okay,
so that's you know, it gotta be. But but we'll say,
I think we've put up with John more than other shows.
I am willing to go that far. Okay, I'm willing
to go that far. And you know, look, that's what's
all about. At the end of the day. I don't

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have this show to make fun of people. I don't
do it to put people down or to make people
feel bad about themselves. For believing things that aren't true.
I want people to find true things. I really do.
I want people to come to that conclusion themselves. I
don't want it to be because I told them what's
true or or whatever, right. I I want people to
figure out good ways of knowing things. And uh, I'm

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just I'm happy for the team. I think everybody deserves
a pat on the back for John, because, let me
tell you, John is like, uh, he's like that one
cold case that nobody's ever solved, you know what I mean, Like,
that's that's what it feels like with John. I feel
like we just cracked, like the Zodiac Killer or something. Sorry,
that's kind of rude. Shouldn't compare John to the Zodia.
I'm just saying the magnitude there is similar in some regard,

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you know. But anyway, it's it's been funny him.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Yeah, I appreciate it. I was just saying, now, I
just it blows my mind the world he has ahead
of him. Now, gosh, I know so much. Yeah, and
thank you for having me, Dan, I appreciate you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Thank you so slowly. So come check us out in
the h in the after show in just a little bit.
I think we still have Kelly here. Kelly, Kelly, you're
still with us, you're hanging out. Maybe he already went
ahead there he is, Hey, Kelly's.

Speaker 3 (01:14:59):
And I remember not do un mute myself too, So
that was like, that's a good one.

Speaker 1 (01:15:03):
That's good, one step at a time, Kelly, you wanna
thanks for being our backup host today as always, we
appreciate it. And what's remind the folks at home? What
is our question today? You know what?

Speaker 3 (01:15:16):
I almost repeated what the last one? But it's what
do in her circle atheists not want you to know?
And remember to put it in the comments below, not
in the chat on the side.

Speaker 1 (01:15:26):
So nice, all right? And we do have a super
chat as well, Kelly, do you want to read that
super chat?

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
Sure I could do that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:34):
Let me go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:15:35):
You caught me off guard.

Speaker 1 (01:15:37):
Well it's it's it's in that notes there. I just
figured you'd be a good person to do it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:40):
Is it the one from Dustin King?

Speaker 1 (01:15:42):
It is the one from Dustin King?

Speaker 3 (01:15:44):
Remember two years for five dollars?

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
An NFL teams currently without cheerleaders? Did you know that
Kelly Nice got them? Boom? All right, there you go.

Speaker 3 (01:15:58):
Dustin says interestalled in stellar travel is possible? Send tweet.
We found three interstellar comments comments if ice cubes can
do it, so can a generation chip.

Speaker 1 (01:16:12):
I mean the time scale though, is I think you
know the question. I don't think people have said, hey,
they can't go from different Well, actually I guess some
people have said because of the expanding of the universe.
I don't know that's the whole thing. But regardless, Thanks
Dustin King for that. Thank you Kelly for I have
a question.

Speaker 3 (01:16:31):
For you real quick. Maybe you can maybe you can't
answer me, and that's okay. Just think about it. If
the universe is infinite, can it really be a closed system?

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
I guess if it well, I don't know if it's infinite, but.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
I started out with if it is.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
If it is, I guess it wouldn't be if it's infinite. Right,
So do I win a prize?

Speaker 3 (01:16:53):
What we were talking about being in the black earlier.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
So that I was talking to the Egyptian sphinx for
a second, like you're you're just giving your riddles. There's
some sort of answer, but you know you're Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:17:05):
For those who don't know, we were talking briefly. Was
it on the show? I thought it was before the
show we were talking we're hole. Yeah we might actually
be in a black hole. That's a fun one.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
No relation, yeah, no relation, but fun regardless. That's addition
extra fun fact for you guys for free charge, so
you get something for nothing. It's really great.

Speaker 2 (01:17:31):
All right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
With that out of the way, folks, it is time
to ramp things up. But Chris, any words of wisdom
before we end today's show.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
Just you know, sin safely, my friends.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
Sin safely. I love it. Great little tagline there, folks.
This is truth wanted. I remember to always keep one
the truth. We'll see you next time.

Speaker 2 (01:17:50):
Thank you all.

Speaker 3 (01:18:11):
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