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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:26):
We're very happy to have with us. Retired Colonel John Mills,
national security professional with service in five eras, Cold War, Peace, Dividend,
War on Terror, Now the Great Power Showdown. This is
the Great Powers showdown and the fight to save our republic.
Make no mistake about it. Our lives, our republic is
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at stake. Like Benjamin Franklin, they ask him what do
we have and he says, it's a republic if you
can keep it. If you can keep it, this is
the most serious challenge we've ever had, because it's a
challenge from within. John is a senior fellow at the
Center for Security Policy. He's seen the corruption firsthand, he's
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testified about and now we need citizen activation. We need
to have our own citizens aroused, awake, not woke awake.
We must get off the couch and get in the game.
His book The Nation Will Follow, that's also his website.
He followed it up with a just now released book two,
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The War against the Deep State. It's about exposing colleagues
spying on Trump to for the Durham investigation. It didn't
start then, but that's part of it. Charles m McGonagall,
retired FBI Senior official, middle of the FBI, Russia, Russier Russia, fraud,
money laundering, false statements, violating sanctions, all this five criminal referrals,
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three of them provided by Colonel Mills. Tell me about
those referrals and what you saw?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, thank you. So there was page eleven of the
of the Derm investigation report, besides sch lacking the FBI
on their behavior and culture and lack of professionalism, and
it wasn't pretty withering, pretty withering indictment. There was a
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lot of people glossed right over it. There was five
referrals and I'm not going to say which.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Three, but what were they? Referrals for referrals for criminal prosecution.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah, a referral essentially says something is serious enough that
it warrants it warrants criminal investigation rights. That's a pretty
serious It was a fairly high bar for that in
the review process. So you just don't say, yeah, this
looks suspicious, you got actually there's there's legal standards. So
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it's a pretty high bar to come out with a
criminal referral. So so I'd say that's pretty serious. That
means there's active, ongoing investigations on these five and I'm
not going to say which five might be related to
the input I gave to the German investigation that I
would say those should be taken very seriously.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And and well, was there any follow up on any
of the five?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Well, we don't know. It's an ongoing criminal investigation, and
these things take months and years.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
So meanwhile, the people are still functioning, are so called functioning, we've.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Got we don't know if that for sure, We don't know.
We don't know any of these things. So if it's
properly conducted, we're not supposed to know what's going on,
as opposed to when it's a you know, it's a
Republican under investigation, we seem to know everything it's going on.
But if it's a Democrat that's under investigation, yeah, there's
there seems to be utter silence on it.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
The American public's being treated like mushrooms, kept in the
dark and then fed a bunch of crap on top
of us. That's not the way it's supposed to operate,
is it.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Well, no criminal investigation is supposed to be. You're not
supposed to know what's going on. Absolutely, no, you're not
supposed to know, and it's not supposed to be leaked
out there. The investigative body can release certain information at
certain times if appropriate, but no, this is this is
the basic conduct of criminal investigation. You're not supposed to know.
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What I'm pointing out is there always seems to be
leaks when it's a Republican.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Under investigation, right, but.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
There's but there's no leaks or there's very few leaks
when there's a Democrat under investigation, you know, for like Menndez.
But uh, you know gold barn and then right, right,
but the been on him. But Charles McGonagall is a
pretty big deal that he went down. Now, you know,
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some would say, oh, well, that's not associated with the
Durham investigation. I say that's a bunch of whoy. He
was actually core to the exactly what the Durham investigation
was looking like. And I think it's far more like
a political negotiation between him and the DOJ front office
of Barrett Garland, who said, yeah, we're gonna we're gonna
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go after We're gonna go after McGonagall. But we're going
to separate it out so it doesn't look like the
it doesn't look like the Durham investigation accomplished anything. Yeah,
you bet that came from the Durham investigation. So yeah.
But in the book two, it's just came out. It's
more about the the the origins of the surveillance state
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and the pervasive surveillance state.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Well, they need to be surveilling the border, and they
need to be look at the border, and they need
to be looking at who's coming in. As you talk
about in your book, the nation will follow. They're over
one hundred thousand now dead from fentanyl. There's enough fentanyl
found just in Arizona alone for every man woman, but
to kill every man, woman and child in this country.
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We're not being careful at all with who's coming in.
Six million people. They're all not good people. There are
a lot of good people there. And it's not all
people from Mexico. You've got people coming in from China.
Nine thousand young men from China. Are they here just
because they want freedom in America? I don't think so.
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And they've also got especially since they're saying up Chinese
police stations in certain states you've also got the law
of the Moslims. Are they coming in because they love America?
They love our freedom and they want to follow that? No,
they don't want that. A lot of them wants to
real loss. Some of them may be great, wonderful people,
but we need to vet the peat and we also
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need to check them. Imagine all these people coming in
in the middle of a pandemic, none of them vaccinated,
even though it did no good, but they still they
didn't check any of them for COVID when they came in.
Is this the way to run a border. We've got
better borders we're establishing on the Ukraine than we do here.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, this is a shameful and criminal what's going on
in our southern border. And I just came back from
four days in Panama. Mike Leon and Vanderstealing invited me
down and yeah, it's a very bad situation. And clearly
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some of the Chinese are what I would characterize as paramilitary.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
And well, that creates a fifth column in our country
and this is something that we are going to pay
a price for that sooner rather than later, I would think,
because a lot of these people are setting up to
do harm to us, aren't they They're not over here
to have a good time ago Disney World.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, I great concern over what's going on. This is
a national security crisis and we need to have an
authorization to these military force and we got the Chinese.
They're clearly getting guidance and direction to the cartils.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
What can we as an individual do about if we
know this, And of course the news media depends on
who you're watching. Most of the news media is not
reporting it. We know that, so as individuals, when I
look at what's in Congress, I look at Senator the
leader of the Republican Leader of the Senate, McConnell. He
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falls asleep in the middle of a speech. I'm looking
at the President of the United States, he can't complete
a speech. I'm looking at Fetterman not even look there.
We all know how bad he is. He can't him
wear a coat and die. And you look at no
respect at all for the office. And you look at
the others over there, they're not doing their job. We
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need people to become aware politically, don't we in this
country to put people in who want to do something.
Put people in, likely Jim Jordan, put somebody in who
wants to do something, don't we.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, well, for ninety seven percent of the citizen, if
they're upset about this, they need to be. This is
counterintuitive because everybody's shouting in the wrong direction, looking at
the wrong thing. You need to make sure you have
a clean county first of all. Right, so right there
in Arizona, you've got to make sure Maricopa.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Maricopa County is the most crooked of them all. It
only took seven different cities in seven states to throw
the last election. Americopa County was the one here because
it has the largest population. So all you have to
do is make changes here. Of the over one hundred
and twenty thousand mail and ballots, they didn't find one
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where the signatures weren't perfect. That cannot happen. You know that,
Colonel mails. It can't happen.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, yeah, Well it's a failure to follow procedure. If
there's a if there's a requirement.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Or an ability of an option to check check signatures,
you should be checking signatures.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
But that's a fit. I mean, I just we've got
to talk turkey on this, and that is Maricoca citizens
need to gather together and there's just be honest about
what's going on America COVID. It appears there's a lot
of infighting, a lot of mistrust, a lot of divisiveness.
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We got to address that. We're not going to win
if that's how we're operating.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
And we really need I agree, we really need what
they have in Canada. We need paper ballots for one thing,
we need verifiable ballots for another thing. And we need
an honest count with both parties being able to look
over or if there are three parties whatever, have been
able to see it. Nobody can be excluded and one
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day another that they've done everywhere. But I live in
Maricopa County and the problem that we had was the
lady who was running for governor, which I call the
gubernatorial election. So who's running for goob Well, the one
who wanted supposedly was Katie Hobbs, and she also was
in charge of the election commission. She was in charge
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of her own election. That's a little bit close for me.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, yeah, Well this is uh you gotta it's the
Marrick opens, you gotta, you gotta get together on this,
and you've got to control your GOP and you've got
to uh got to work together. My understanding is there's
there's there's fractious nature out there, So we just just
need mairic opens to come together that are interested a
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constitutional republic.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
And it's still divided with the legacy of John McCain
and Arizona. It still has a heavy weight over over Arizona,
even though he's no longer with us.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, yeah, so that's that's that's how that's how this works.
So no reason to worry about McConnell.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Worry.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Everybody needs to worry about their own county. That's how
this works. That's how this works. And I think that's
the challenge is too many of us have been spending
time worrying about districts that we have no control over.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Now you've got an action plan and you worry about
We need to worry about our own districts. Get busy
with it and take action. That's the action plan in
the nation will follow. This is a plan for the people.
And we can't do it watching television. You can't do
it complaining. You can't do it unless you get out
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and talk to other people. That's why it's all about.
Get other people of a like mind to come together
and talk about this, have a party, come over. What
can we do and make sure that you've become involved.
We've got to get involved. Don't wait at this point.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, you know, that's all about your seven key centers
of gravity that are common to every county across America
with roughly thirty three hundred counties and.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
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Colonel Mills, one of the problems we have, and you
talk about this in the war on the Deep State,
is we've got a deep state that has two many
rules regulations, but not for us. We've got rules on
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ep environmental rules that don't allow us to mine for
rare earth minerals. As a matter of fact, there's building
one rare earth minerals mine in North America that's in Canada.
It's owned by a guy who I've talked with, mister Muggerman,
and it's the cleanest mind in the entire world. It
had to be. And we also have only one rare
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earth mineral mind. Now those are Houston. All the speakers
and all the headphones and all that type of thing.
We've also got ninety six percent of the lithium for
the electric cars that's all owned by and controlled by
who by China, especially in North Afghanistan. We've got Chinese
bases in Cuba, Chinese young men entering illegally. They found
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a lot of them with CCP military credits. We're not
taking China's as we should. We've got a woke military
where we've got people campaigning for uh, drag queens for
the military to join the Navy, and they've got drag
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queens standing out as the recruiter's head looking like this
is what you get when you get into the Navy.
This is not right. The woke military is not existing.
We can't have it. The Chinese are laughing as I
would think, what do you think?
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, this is uh, we've got a crisis in the military.
I mean, they're not making their numbers. I think the
only service that's making their numbers is the is the
Marines as far as recruiting and attention retention, and I
think part of that's a function of them being the
smallest of the services well, I guess other than Space
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Force now. But yeah, there's a there's a it's a
real deterrent youth are. I think the wokeness of the
military is an issue. I know some of the politicals
at the Department Defense take umbrage with that, but I
don't know how else to put it. It's a reality
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and they can't dismiss it, ignore it, and it's just
that going crazy behavior.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Well, I think they used to say the military has
two purposes, to break things and to build things, and
it's really its purposes not to become a social engineering department.
That isn't how it works. I mean, the fact is
the military has been integrated for a long time. You
have men and women working together. Fine, but to make
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some of the social engineering part of the military, that
isn't practical. You have to be trained, you have to
work as a cohesive unit altogether.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Absolutely, that's their job is to deter conflict and if
necessary win. But that's that. This is when it's you
get all these other priorities and agendas. It degrades that
core mission significantly. And all this cheerleading for all these
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alternative lifestyles. Nothing good comes out of that. Nothing good
comes out of us. This is not It doesn't impress China,
it doesn't. It just weakens. It's divisive, it's corrosive. You're
turning the world upside down for not even one percent
of the population.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
That's that's no way to run it. That's no way
to run it.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Absolutely, so a great concern with what's going on in
the military right now.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
And can we win a war right now with the
military we have, Well.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I would have much higher confidence if we were far
more focused on building the military. I mean, the reality
is our operational ready to night rate of our aircraft
is falling. It's not rising the F thirty five it
has been shown that is, although it's coming on board
in greater numbers. The o R rate is dropping. It
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should be the opposite, it should be going up.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
So and meanwhile, meanwhile, our enemy is growing stronger. We're
going to take a break right now and we'll be
right back, and I wan't to talk about what is
the deep state. We'll be right back for Colonel Mills.
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The war against the Deep State? What is the Deep States?
What do you consider the deep state? A lot of
it seems to be bureaucrats who are not accountable to
anybody except their own departments. That's why we have so
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many rules and regulations which don't really benefit us that much.
You look at the CDC, you look at the EPA,
a lot of these rules. Look at what they're trying
to do. Take away gas stoves, gas furnaces, and gas
is a wonderful product. They've got five hundred years worth
of gas in our own country. This is insane to me.
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Tell me about the Deep States, how do you categorize it,
what is it.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
In our my new book, War Against the Deep State,
I outline and discuss the unlawful fourth, fifth, and sixth
branches of government that have increments developed over a number
of years.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Right, they seem to be making their own law. As
Colonel Mills, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
It's correct. So the fourth branch of government is what
I call the administrative state. And the administrative state is
actually based upon there is some law of the administrative state,
that's the nineteen forty six Administrative Procedures Act. But this
has kind of become perverted over time. So the Administrative
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Procedures Act is how you take US law and translate
it into regulation. So law does not equal regulation, and
so there is a refining process you have to go through,
and it can include the rule making process and the
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public comment period. The poster child for what I'm talking
about is the EPA, right an environmental protection agency. They've
been hit hard twice here in Supreme Court rulings on
both groundwater and coal emissions. They've been struck down. But
the problem is the e PAS effectively used regulation to
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create law. It's not supposed to go that way. You
can't make law out of regulation. That's that's what the
Supreme Court has struck down. It is the EPA's long
standing actions that create law out of administration, so out
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of regulation. So that that is that's the administrative state
we get. But as soon as that's been struck down,
you know, the Biden team has just been furiously peddling
to figure out ends around getting around the Supreme Court ruling.
So that's the administrative state. The next is the marriage
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coming together federal law enforcement, federal intelligent intelligence excuse me,
and big tech. And I was kind of right there
at the marriage of it. It really took place around
twenty ten. Initially, the tech any moments were a little
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bit questioning, sniffing each other out. They didn't know what
to make out of each other. But pretty soon I
really kind of put it in the year twenty ten,
they kind of came together and realized they could be
very helpful to So that's where the basis of the
mass surveillance came in, was this marriage federal law enforcement,
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federal intelligence, and big tech, and they brought together some
immense capabilities and power. Originally that was supposed to be
pointed outward protecting the American citizen, but it became weaponized
and was turned to target Americans.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Wasn't that a result of the nine to eleven that
they brought in a lot of these new regulations to
control this, But it was supposedly for outside terrorists, but
they've turned it on the American public.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Right, Well, yeah, I think I think an iterative pre
step was the Patriot Act. And again, you know, we
did these things Initially, the whole thought was to protect
Americans from the external, foreign violent extremist. But then it
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got it got organized against the American people and used
against the American people. So that's that's the very danger
in that marriage. So that was the surveillance state of
the sixth branch of government is are the nonprofits? And
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that's that's where you're getting this growing overwhelming power of
these nonprofits such as universities. I love universities. I'm not
criticizing universities, but their endowments at these places are just
becoming gargantuan.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Right.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Guess what. Guess what? They're all classified under IRS rules
as nonprofits. They're supposed to be non partisan, non activists.
But let's just come on, give me a break.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Its not close, right.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
The poster child for that is Tony Blenken, who ran
the greatest election interference operation in history with the fifty
one intelligence agents out of the Upen Biden Center, a nonprofit.
You bet they play this game, and you bet, And
so the nonprofits really have to be rained in. So
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those are really in the new book war against the
deep state or against the deep state dot com. That's
really what I out what I outline in detail.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
And we've also got a lot of nonprofits who are
supporting the UH illegal immigration because they're making so much
money off of that, they're paying them and doing this.
This is a group that sorrows backs a lot of
these nonprofits, doesn't he yes and Bill Gates and the
Clinton Foundation seems to be a scam operation lat nonprofits
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for grifters.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yeah, well that's where we had to have to hold
these groups accountable and identify them and name and shame
them and what they're doing because yeah, through the border operations,
all those internal flights, that's all DHS grant money. DHS
it could be hh HHS grant money too, But yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
They're running around thinking compassionate would know you're not being
compassionate your career the attraction for this illegal activity that.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Many people are suffering. They passed the Darien Gap, they
pass through right Central America. And it's church groups.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
So well, Catholic charities. That's one that's huge into this,
and there are others. It isn't just them alone, but
there are so many of them, aren't there.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
That is correct. That is correct, and you've got to
calm out name and shame and identify them constantly.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Now, we as individuals, what can we do? Number one?
Don't give to these organizations. But what can we do
as far as doing away with this? Can we get
this to our representatives? Does that do ain't good? Letter
writing doesn't seem to do ain't good? So as individuals,
what can we do well?
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Again, it's those seven key centers of gravity and you've
got to dominate those in your county so you can
have control and you can have power and influence. So
you better be bringing that up at your county council
meetings about just the gross overwhelming of the county with
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the illegals. You need to bring that up. That's one
of your first.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
We need a mother's movement because you know in your
first chapter of your first book, you talked about the
mom's tip of the spear. We need to get the
women involved in this. This has to be come out
because this is affecting the school of their children. It's
affecting everything. It's affecting our healthcare, you name it, the fentanyls,
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the whole thing. I mean, this is affecting the entire country.
How do you get six million people illegal out They
don't even know who they are, where they are, do they? Yeah,
Well then you've got the trafficking of children, trafficking of women.
I mean this, h this is just beyond. This is
destroying our country as meant to I think, don't you.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yeah? First chapter the second book is also moms will
win this war. And moms are actually doing quite well.
Actually a lot of the people who are not getting
off the couch are the guys. The moms are actually
quite effective at getting involved in getting organized.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Well, they're nurturing, they care about their kids and when
they want, they want a future for their children, the
mothers especially, and we all know that most of our
mothers were that way that they really care more, they
want more for their children than they had. So this
is the logical group to go to isn't it, Colonel Mills.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
It's the logical group and they are being mobile. They
are mobilizing. That's not an issue. It's exactly at it's
a lot of the guys. The guys are not. The
guys are kind of just sitting on the sidelines bellowing
that you got it. When you say letter writing, I'd
like to revisit something you said, yes said, letter writing
is not effect Actually it is quite effective. I think
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people really need to work on the quality of their
letters because most of the letters are just vague, abstract
accusations and venting. Inventing is good, but you have to
be precise. You have to know the.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Laws and tell them what you want. Tell them exactly
what you want. And rather than just vnting, say this
is wrong, you have to tell them something specific they
can do, don't you.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Yeah, yeah, you have to understand. Uh you're cat okay there.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Ersten, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Okay, okay, So you have to uh, you have to
under read the laws yourself. Don't don't wait for a
don't don't wait for a lawyer. Everybody sits around fretting
and commitsing waiting for a lawyer. No, that's your job. Citizen.
You need to read that yourself. So if the guys
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have enough time to bellow on social media, you have
enough time to pick up the state election code and
read it and understand it.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Sit down with your wife, sit down with your kids,
and tell them this is what we need to do.
Let them all have a part in, make a little party,
make have some fun. Write them all, have them all
write with the letter and that way, and then don't
send it immediately. Wait a day or two and then
send it because you won't go over it again and
make sure that it's readable. You don't want to sound
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like somebody who's a real hic writing it. You want
to sound like you're a person who's actually thought this out.
That's important, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
That's absolutely it is.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Now do some of these representatives do they really read
these letters? I've heard that they don't. They have some
clerk who reads it and it goes into the round file.
But how do you feel it?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I think it's always if you can write an effective letter,
I think that's important. But you also got to show
up to any public comment periods. This is another problem.
A lot of them. Again, the ladies don't seem to
have a problem with this. It's the guys that, oh,
I might lose my job. Ohm, you know this might
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happen to me. Now you got to this is your government.
This is your government. The foundation is those are those again,
those seven centers of governments. And anytime there's a public
comment period, you need to show up and say something thoughtful.
They do pay attention when people are showing up and
saying something thoughtful. You're just showing up. And most people
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don't show up period. Right, then you just have people
who show up and don't do anything. And then you
have people who show up and they say something but
it's really not helpful, not constructive.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Or they show up all mad and hurt and one
day another make a scene that doesn't work. Either be constructive,
be constructive when you show up, but show up, because
if you don't show up, then they just keep doing
what they want to do. You've got to show up
and tell them what you want your people to do.
They're working for you, understand that.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Right, absolutely, absolutely riskin.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
So when you're seeing this, or you're seeing more people
becoming proactive in the country now, or you said you're
an optimist, tell me how you're optimistic. You see more
people showing up.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
I am seeing more people showing up. But again, I
talked about it earlier, and I think we put places.
I pray for the people Americopa, but I do see
a lot of a lot of people. I know people
are tired. I know people are upset. There's divisiveness. We've
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got to learn to somehow work together or not spend
time fighting with each other.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
United will stand, Divided will fall, and we're falling now.
We've got to get united. We've got to get people
to work together. The churches are not active. That's one thing.
They've almost emasculated. The churches after the COVID haven't.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Well. I don't know, it depends. I think actually church
pastors have actually been some of the most active, and
I think you're seeing a lot more active pastors getting involved.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I'm saying more more action in the black churches than others.
I mean, these a lot of the black churches are
really concerned about what's going on.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
And I think I think so. I think churches are
a key rallying point in the American Revolution. There it
was three percent font ten percent provided support, and most
of those who probably provided support were the pastors and
their flocks.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Right back then, back then it was and you have
to realize that on the American Revolution and back during
that period, there were very few people who really started
it and kept it going. It was very few. So
it doesn't take a massive movement, does it.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
It doesn't. It was only thirteen percent during the Revolutionary War.
I think we're a lot more than thirteen percent.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
That's incredible how few it takes to get something accomplished.
We need to do this now. The book is called
The War against the Deep State. In this book, you'll
learn who you're battling. That's the important thing to learn
who you're battling, and you also learn how you can
battle them, and they can be defeated because there are
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many more of us than are of them, right, yes.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah, War against the Deepstate dot com?
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yes, yes, okay, And if you haven't got the first book,
it's called The Nation will Follow dot com. So the
nation will follow, and then the War on Deepstate dot
com will be right back on Truth Expressradio dot com.
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I want you to give me some really sage advice
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that people can use. Are people getting together now in groups?
Are you seeing this more and more? Because we do
outnumber those of the Deep State. We have to let
them know that they are working for us. We're not
working for them, and this can make a difference. You
think the country can and will be turned around, don't you.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Well, I think some people are. We're all tired and fatigued.
I got it. We're not happy with what has gone
on in our country.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
No, not at all, years, not at all.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
But you know, I just encourage feeling fatigued to take
a break, rest and then get back into the game.
For those who are in the game, good job, keep
it going. Let's all work toward getting more and more
focused and granular and detailed and impactful. Got to get
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out of the world of generalities and complaining. We've got
to start talking again. You got to know your election
law in your state. You've got to do that. You've
got to do that. There's don't wait for a lawyer.
Don't use this as always the cop out O here.
Can't do anything until a lawyer told us something.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
That's right. One of the problems that we had was COVID.
We were told to keep away, keep your mouth shut,
wear your mask, and they're trying to do that again.
This stifled free expression. The other thing that happened was
Twitter and all of the Facebook and all those and
they're still doing it. Not Twitter so much that Elon
(39:45):
Musk took over, but they're stifling any type of free speech.
We lost free speech temporarily, Colonel Mills.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
That is correct. Do you have a government that is anyways
come weaponized to have to win regardless of that? Yeah,
they've absolutely. We've got places like Michigan where you know,
an authoritarian dictator as the governor, coming after citizens for
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daring to suggest other electors when the Blue Team has
routinely done this and called for electors.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
To look at what they did to the electors in
Georgia that were the alternate electors that were very clearly
alternate electors, and they did what they they're prosecuting them. Now,
this is you know, if you stand up for what's
right and then get prosecuted, this is not the America
that we fought for that I love.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Yeah, that is correct. A lot of Americans, just the
America they thought they were living in, has been taken
from us so quickly.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
To Colonel Mills, this happened within three years. Yes I did, Yes,
I did, go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Yeah, it did happen. And elections have consequences. Still, elections
have catastrophic consequences. So it is immensely concerning what happened,
and so, but the answer is not to give up,
not to get angry, get smart, get tough, and get focused.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Don't give up, don't give in, keep fighting because it's
worth doing, if not for you, for the future generations,
if not for the future generation, for those in the
past who have fought too much, blood has been spilt,
too many people have put there everything on the line.
For us to give up, they really have. We are
the best place on earth. This is the best country
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on earth. I believe that, and you believe that you
fought for it.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
You that absolutely absolutely. We've got no other place to go,
and we don't have any choice.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
So that's we really don't. We really don't. Now, when
you were in Panama, did you see a lot of
people coming through there and through the various thing trying
to come to America again, So.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Yes, yes I did, And I mean, you know, essentially
for every thousand people, that equates to about twenty three
bus loads of people headed north, except for those who
are staying behind. And that's a challenge too, because Panama
is although one of the better economies in Central America
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and South America. This is a crushing burden for them too,
and they're they're they're paying for most of the immediate
care of all these illegals coming through the daring.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
My god, how can they afford it?
Speaker 3 (43:00):
They can't. It's crushing the economy.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Neither can we. So this is this is a worldwide
phenomenon affecting the entire world. We need to have something
coming together to affect this, and we need to talk
about in our own groups, and we need to be
able to get people elected who will do something. Colonel Mills,
thank you and God bless you for what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
All right, thank you so much, risken honor to be
on your show.
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We're very happy to have with us. Retired Colonel John Mills,
national security professional with service in five eras, Cold War, Peace, Dividend,
War on Terror, Now the Great Power Showdown. This is
the Great Powers showdown and the fight to save our republic.
Make no mistake about it. Our lives, our republic is
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at stake. Like Benjamin Franklin, they ask him what do
we have and he says, it's a republic if you
can keep it. If you can keep it, this is
the most serious challenge we've ever had, because it's a
challenge from within. John is a senior fellow at the
Center for Security Policy. He's seen the corruption firsthand, he's
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testified about and now we need citizen activation. We need
to have our own citizens aroused, awake, not woke awake.
We must get off the couch and get in the game.
His book The Nation Will Follow, that's also his website.
He followed it up with a just now released book two,
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The War against the Deep State. It's about exposing colleagues
spying on Trump to for the Durham investigation. It didn't
start then, but that's part of it. Charles m McGonagall,
retired FBI Senior official, middle of the FBI, Russia, Russier Russia, fraud,
money laundering, false statements, violating sanctions, all this five criminal referrals,
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three of them provided by Colonel Mills. Tell me about
those referrals and what you saw?
Speaker 3 (02:06):
Yeah, thank you. So there was page eleven of the
of the Derm investigation report, besides sch lacking the FBI
on their behavior and culture and lack of professionalism, and
it wasn't pretty withering, pretty withering indictment. There was a
(02:29):
lot of people glossed right over it. There was five
referrals and I'm not going to say which.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Three, but what were they? Referrals for referrals for criminal prosecution.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah, a referral essentially says something is serious enough that
it warrants it warrants criminal investigation rights. That's a pretty
serious It was a fairly high bar for that in
the review process. So you just don't say, yeah, this
looks suspicious, you got actually there's there's legal standards. So
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it's a pretty high bar to come out with a
criminal referral. So so I'd say that's pretty serious. That
means there's active, ongoing investigations on these five and I'm
not going to say which five might be related to
the input I gave to the German investigation that I
would say those should be taken very seriously.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
And and well, was there any follow up on any
of the five?
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Well, we don't know. It's an ongoing criminal investigation, and
these things take months and years.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
So meanwhile, the people are still functioning, are so called functioning, we've.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Got we don't know if that for sure, We don't know.
We don't know any of these things. So if it's
properly conducted, we're not supposed to know what's going on,
as opposed to when it's a you know, it's a
Republican under investigation, we seem to know everything it's going on.
But if it's a Democrat that's under investigation, yeah, there's
there seems to be utter silence on it.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
The American public's being treated like mushrooms, kept in the
dark and then fed a bunch of crap on top
of us. That's not the way it's supposed to operate,
is it.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Well, no criminal investigation is supposed to be. You're not
supposed to know what's going on. Absolutely, no, you're not
supposed to know, and it's not supposed to be leaked
out there. The investigative body can release certain information at
certain times if appropriate, but no, this is this is
the basic conduct of criminal investigation. You're not supposed to know.
(04:37):
What I'm pointing out is there always seems to be
leaks when it's a Republican.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Under investigation, right, but.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
There's but there's no leaks or there's very few leaks
when there's a Democrat under investigation, you know, for like Menndez.
But uh, you know gold barn and then right, right,
but the been on him. But Charles McGonagall is a
pretty big deal that he went down. Now, you know,
(05:06):
some would say, oh, well, that's not associated with the
Durham investigation. I say that's a bunch of whoy. He
was actually core to the exactly what the Durham investigation
was looking like. And I think it's far more like
a political negotiation between him and the DOJ front office
of Barrett Garland, who said, yeah, we're gonna we're gonna
(05:28):
go after We're gonna go after McGonagall. But we're going
to separate it out so it doesn't look like the
it doesn't look like the Durham investigation accomplished anything. Yeah,
you bet that came from the Durham investigation. So yeah.
But in the book two, it's just came out. It's
more about the the the origins of the surveillance state
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and the pervasive surveillance state.
Speaker 2 (05:55):
Well, they need to be surveilling the border, and they
need to be look at the border, and they need
to be looking at who's coming in. As you talk
about in your book, the nation will follow. They're over
one hundred thousand now dead from fentanyl. There's enough fentanyl
found just in Arizona alone for every man woman, but
to kill every man, woman and child in this country.
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We're not being careful at all with who's coming in.
Six million people. They're all not good people. There are
a lot of good people there. And it's not all
people from Mexico. You've got people coming in from China.
Nine thousand young men from China. Are they here just
because they want freedom in America? I don't think so.
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And they've also got especially since they're saying up Chinese
police stations in certain states you've also got the law
of the Moslims. Are they coming in because they love America?
They love our freedom and they want to follow that? No,
they don't want that. A lot of them wants to
real loss. Some of them may be great, wonderful people,
but we need to vet the peat and we also
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need to check them. Imagine all these people coming in
in the middle of a pandemic, none of them vaccinated,
even though it did no good, but they still they
didn't check any of them for COVID when they came in.
Is this the way to run a border. We've got
better borders we're establishing on the Ukraine than we do here.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, this is a shameful and criminal what's going on
in our southern border. And I just came back from
four days in Panama. Mike Leon and Vanderstealing invited me
down and yeah, it's a very bad situation. And clearly
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some of the Chinese are what I would characterize as paramilitary.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
And well, that creates a fifth column in our country
and this is something that we are going to pay
a price for that sooner rather than later, I would think,
because a lot of these people are setting up to
do harm to us, aren't they They're not over here
to have a good time ago Disney World.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
Yeah, I great concern over what's going on. This is
a national security crisis and we need to have an
authorization to these military force and we got the Chinese.
They're clearly getting guidance and direction to the cartils.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
What can we as an individual do about if we
know this, And of course the news media depends on
who you're watching. Most of the news media is not
reporting it. We know that, so as individuals, when I
look at what's in Congress, I look at Senator the
leader of the Republican Leader of the Senate, McConnell. He
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falls asleep in the middle of a speech. I'm looking
at the President of the United States, he can't complete
a speech. I'm looking at Fetterman not even look there.
We all know how bad he is. He can't him
wear a coat and die. And you look at no
respect at all for the office. And you look at
the others over there, they're not doing their job. We
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need people to become aware politically, don't we in this
country to put people in who want to do something.
Put people in, likely Jim Jordan, put somebody in who
wants to do something, don't we.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, well, for ninety seven percent of the citizen, if
they're upset about this, they need to be. This is
counterintuitive because everybody's shouting in the wrong direction, looking at
the wrong thing. You need to make sure you have
a clean county first of all. Right, so right there
in Arizona, you've got to make sure Maricopa.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Maricopa County is the most crooked of them all. It
only took seven different cities in seven states to throw
the last election. Americopa County was the one here because
it has the largest population. So all you have to
do is make changes here. Of the over one hundred
and twenty thousand mail and ballots, they didn't find one
(10:09):
where the signatures weren't perfect. That cannot happen. You know that,
Colonel mails. It can't happen.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
Yeah, yeah, Well it's a failure to follow procedure. If
there's a if there's a requirement.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
Or an ability of an option to check check signatures,
you should be checking signatures.
Speaker 3 (10:33):
But that's a fit. I mean, I just we've got
to talk turkey on this, and that is Maricoca citizens
need to gather together and there's just be honest about
what's going on America COVID. It appears there's a lot
of infighting, a lot of mistrust, a lot of divisiveness.
(10:55):
We got to address that. We're not going to win
if that's how we're operating.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
And we really need I agree, we really need what
they have in Canada. We need paper ballots for one thing,
we need verifiable ballots for another thing. And we need
an honest count with both parties being able to look
over or if there are three parties whatever, have been
able to see it. Nobody can be excluded and one
(11:20):
day another that they've done everywhere. But I live in
Maricopa County and the problem that we had was the
lady who was running for governor, which I call the
gubernatorial election. So who's running for goob Well, the one
who wanted supposedly was Katie Hobbs, and she also was
in charge of the election commission. She was in charge
(11:42):
of her own election. That's a little bit close for me.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, yeah, Well this is uh you gotta it's the
Marrick opens, you gotta, you gotta get together on this,
and you've got to control your GOP and you've got
to uh got to work together. My understanding is there's
there's there's fractious nature out there, So we just just
need mairic opens to come together that are interested a
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constitutional republic.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
And it's still divided with the legacy of John McCain
and Arizona. It still has a heavy weight over over Arizona,
even though he's no longer with us.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Yeah, yeah, so that's that's that's how that's how this works.
So no reason to worry about McConnell.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Worry.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Everybody needs to worry about their own county. That's how
this works. That's how this works. And I think that's
the challenge is too many of us have been spending
time worrying about districts that we have no control over.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
Now you've got an action plan and you worry about
We need to worry about our own districts. Get busy
with it and take action. That's the action plan in
the nation will follow. This is a plan for the people.
And we can't do it watching television. You can't do
it complaining. You can't do it unless you get out
(13:08):
and talk to other people. That's why it's all about.
Get other people of a like mind to come together
and talk about this, have a party, come over. What
can we do and make sure that you've become involved.
We've got to get involved. Don't wait at this point.
Speaker 3 (13:26):
Yeah, you know, that's all about your seven key centers
of gravity that are common to every county across America
with roughly thirty three hundred counties and.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
All, Hey, take a break down. We'll be right back
with Colonel Mills. The Biden administration is quickly moving to
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Colonel Mills, one of the problems we have, and you
talk about this in the war on the Deep State,
is we've got a deep state that has two many
rules regulations, but not for us. We've got rules on
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ep environmental rules that don't allow us to mine for
rare earth minerals. As a matter of fact, there's building
one rare earth minerals mine in North America that's in Canada.
It's owned by a guy who I've talked with, mister Muggerman,
and it's the cleanest mind in the entire world. It
had to be. And we also have only one rare
(15:28):
earth mineral mind. Now those are Houston. All the speakers
and all the headphones and all that type of thing.
We've also got ninety six percent of the lithium for
the electric cars that's all owned by and controlled by
who by China, especially in North Afghanistan. We've got Chinese
bases in Cuba, Chinese young men entering illegally. They found
(15:53):
a lot of them with CCP military credits. We're not
taking China's as we should. We've got a woke military
where we've got people campaigning for uh, drag queens for
the military to join the Navy, and they've got drag
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queens standing out as the recruiter's head looking like this
is what you get when you get into the Navy.
This is not right. The woke military is not existing.
We can't have it. The Chinese are laughing as I
would think, what do you think?
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Yeah, this is uh, we've got a crisis in the military.
I mean, they're not making their numbers. I think the
only service that's making their numbers is the is the
Marines as far as recruiting and attention retention, and I
think part of that's a function of them being the
smallest of the services well, I guess other than Space
(16:52):
Force now. But yeah, there's a there's a it's a
real deterrent youth are. I think the wokeness of the
military is an issue. I know some of the politicals
at the Department Defense take umbrage with that, but I
don't know how else to put it. It's a reality
(17:14):
and they can't dismiss it, ignore it, and it's just
that going crazy behavior.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Well, I think they used to say the military has
two purposes, to break things and to build things, and
it's really its purposes not to become a social engineering department.
That isn't how it works. I mean, the fact is
the military has been integrated for a long time. You
have men and women working together. Fine, but to make
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some of the social engineering part of the military, that
isn't practical. You have to be trained, you have to
work as a cohesive unit altogether.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
Absolutely, that's their job is to deter conflict and if
necessary win. But that's that. This is when it's you
get all these other priorities and agendas. It degrades that
core mission significantly. And all this cheerleading for all these
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alternative lifestyles. Nothing good comes out of that. Nothing good
comes out of us. This is not It doesn't impress China,
it doesn't. It just weakens. It's divisive, it's corrosive. You're
turning the world upside down for not even one percent
of the population.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
That's that's no way to run it. That's no way
to run it.
Speaker 5 (18:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:47):
Absolutely, so a great concern with what's going on in
the military right now.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
And can we win a war right now with the
military we have, Well.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
I would have much higher confidence if we were far
more focused on building the military. I mean, the reality
is our operational ready to night rate of our aircraft
is falling. It's not rising the F thirty five it
has been shown that is, although it's coming on board
in greater numbers. The o R rate is dropping. It
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should be the opposite, it should be going up.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
So and meanwhile, meanwhile, our enemy is growing stronger. We're
going to take a break right now and we'll be
right back, and I wan't to talk about what is
the deep state. We'll be right back for Colonel Mills.
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The war against the Deep State? What is the Deep States?
What do you consider the deep state? A lot of
it seems to be bureaucrats who are not accountable to
anybody except their own departments. That's why we have so
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many rules and regulations which don't really benefit us that much.
You look at the CDC, you look at the EPA,
a lot of these rules. Look at what they're trying
to do. Take away gas stoves, gas furnaces, and gas
is a wonderful product. They've got five hundred years worth
of gas in our own country. This is insane to me.
(21:42):
Tell me about the Deep States, how do you categorize it,
what is it.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
In our my new book, War Against the Deep State,
I outline and discuss the unlawful fourth, fifth, and sixth
branches of government that have increments developed over a number
of years.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Right, they seem to be making their own law. As
Colonel Mills, you know.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
It's correct. So the fourth branch of government is what
I call the administrative state. And the administrative state is
actually based upon there is some law of the administrative state,
that's the nineteen forty six Administrative Procedures Act. But this
has kind of become perverted over time. So the Administrative
(22:32):
Procedures Act is how you take US law and translate
it into regulation. So law does not equal regulation, and
so there is a refining process you have to go through,
and it can include the rule making process and the
(22:53):
public comment period. The poster child for what I'm talking
about is the EPA, right an environmental protection agency. They've
been hit hard twice here in Supreme Court rulings on
both groundwater and coal emissions. They've been struck down. But
the problem is the e PAS effectively used regulation to
(23:20):
create law. It's not supposed to go that way. You
can't make law out of regulation. That's that's what the
Supreme Court has struck down. It is the EPA's long
standing actions that create law out of administration, so out
(23:41):
of regulation. So that that is that's the administrative state
we get. But as soon as that's been struck down,
you know, the Biden team has just been furiously peddling
to figure out ends around getting around the Supreme Court ruling.
So that's the administrative state. The next is the marriage
(24:05):
coming together federal law enforcement, federal intelligent intelligence excuse me,
and big tech. And I was kind of right there
at the marriage of it. It really took place around
twenty ten. Initially, the tech any moments were a little
(24:27):
bit questioning, sniffing each other out. They didn't know what
to make out of each other. But pretty soon I
really kind of put it in the year twenty ten,
they kind of came together and realized they could be
very helpful to So that's where the basis of the
mass surveillance came in, was this marriage federal law enforcement,
(24:51):
federal intelligence, and big tech, and they brought together some
immense capabilities and power. Originally that was supposed to be
pointed outward protecting the American citizen, but it became weaponized
and was turned to target Americans.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
Wasn't that a result of the nine to eleven that
they brought in a lot of these new regulations to
control this, But it was supposedly for outside terrorists, but
they've turned it on the American public.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
Right, Well, yeah, I think I think an iterative pre
step was the Patriot Act. And again, you know, we
did these things Initially, the whole thought was to protect
Americans from the external, foreign violent extremist. But then it
(25:42):
got it got organized against the American people and used
against the American people. So that's that's the very danger
in that marriage. So that was the surveillance state of
the sixth branch of government is are the nonprofits? And
(26:02):
that's that's where you're getting this growing overwhelming power of
these nonprofits such as universities. I love universities. I'm not
criticizing universities, but their endowments at these places are just
becoming gargantuan.
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Right.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Guess what. Guess what? They're all classified under IRS rules
as nonprofits. They're supposed to be non partisan, non activists.
But let's just come on, give me a break.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
Its not close, right.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
The poster child for that is Tony Blenken, who ran
the greatest election interference operation in history with the fifty
one intelligence agents out of the Upen Biden Center, a nonprofit.
You bet they play this game, and you bet, And
so the nonprofits really have to be rained in. So
(26:54):
those are really in the new book war against the
deep state or against the deep state dot com. That's
really what I out what I outline in detail.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
And we've also got a lot of nonprofits who are
supporting the UH illegal immigration because they're making so much
money off of that, they're paying them and doing this.
This is a group that sorrows backs a lot of
these nonprofits, doesn't he yes and Bill Gates and the
Clinton Foundation seems to be a scam operation lat nonprofits
(27:28):
for grifters.
Speaker 3 (27:31):
Yeah, well that's where we had to have to hold
these groups accountable and identify them and name and shame
them and what they're doing because yeah, through the border operations,
all those internal flights, that's all DHS grant money. DHS
it could be hh HHS grant money too, But yeah.
Speaker 5 (27:53):
They're running around thinking compassionate would know you're not being
compassionate your career the attraction for this illegal activity that.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Many people are suffering. They passed the Darien Gap, they
pass through right Central America. And it's church groups.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
So well, Catholic charities. That's one that's huge into this,
and there are others. It isn't just them alone, but
there are so many of them, aren't there.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
That is correct. That is correct, and you've got to
calm out name and shame and identify them constantly.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
Now, we as individuals, what can we do? Number one?
Don't give to these organizations. But what can we do
as far as doing away with this? Can we get
this to our representatives? Does that do ain't good? Letter
writing doesn't seem to do ain't good? So as individuals,
what can we do well?
Speaker 3 (28:55):
Again, it's those seven key centers of gravity and you've
got to dominate those in your county so you can
have control and you can have power and influence. So
you better be bringing that up at your county council
meetings about just the gross overwhelming of the county with
(29:17):
the illegals. You need to bring that up. That's one
of your first.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
We need a mother's movement because you know in your
first chapter of your first book, you talked about the
mom's tip of the spear. We need to get the
women involved in this. This has to be come out
because this is affecting the school of their children. It's
affecting everything. It's affecting our healthcare, you name it, the fentanyls,
(29:42):
the whole thing. I mean, this is affecting the entire country.
How do you get six million people illegal out They
don't even know who they are, where they are, do they? Yeah,
Well then you've got the trafficking of children, trafficking of women.
I mean this, h this is just beyond. This is
destroying our country as meant to I think, don't you.
Speaker 3 (30:06):
Yeah? First chapter the second book is also moms will
win this war. And moms are actually doing quite well.
Actually a lot of the people who are not getting
off the couch are the guys. The moms are actually
quite effective at getting involved in getting organized.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
Well, they're nurturing, they care about their kids and when
they want, they want a future for their children, the
mothers especially, and we all know that most of our
mothers were that way that they really care more, they
want more for their children than they had. So this
is the logical group to go to isn't it, Colonel Mills.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
It's the logical group and they are being mobile. They
are mobilizing. That's not an issue. It's exactly at it's
a lot of the guys. The guys are not. The
guys are kind of just sitting on the sidelines bellowing
that you got it. When you say letter writing, I'd
like to revisit something you said, yes said, letter writing
is not effect Actually it is quite effective. I think
(31:02):
people really need to work on the quality of their
letters because most of the letters are just vague, abstract
accusations and venting. Inventing is good, but you have to
be precise. You have to know the.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Laws and tell them what you want. Tell them exactly
what you want. And rather than just vnting, say this
is wrong, you have to tell them something specific they
can do, don't you.
Speaker 3 (31:30):
Yeah, yeah, you have to understand. Uh you're cat okay there.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Ersten, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
Okay, okay, So you have to uh, you have to
under read the laws yourself. Don't don't wait for a
don't don't wait for a lawyer. Everybody sits around fretting
and commitsing waiting for a lawyer. No, that's your job. Citizen.
You need to read that yourself. So if the guys
(31:57):
have enough time to bellow on social media, you have
enough time to pick up the state election code and
read it and understand it.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
Sit down with your wife, sit down with your kids,
and tell them this is what we need to do.
Let them all have a part in, make a little party,
make have some fun. Write them all, have them all
write with the letter and that way, and then don't
send it immediately. Wait a day or two and then
send it because you won't go over it again and
make sure that it's readable. You don't want to sound
(32:25):
like somebody who's a real hic writing it. You want
to sound like you're a person who's actually thought this out.
That's important, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
That's absolutely it is.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Now do some of these representatives do they really read
these letters? I've heard that they don't. They have some
clerk who reads it and it goes into the round file.
But how do you feel it?
Speaker 3 (32:49):
I think it's always if you can write an effective letter,
I think that's important. But you also got to show
up to any public comment periods. This is another problem.
A lot of them. Again, the ladies don't seem to
have a problem with this. It's the guys that, oh,
I might lose my job. Ohm, you know this might
(33:10):
happen to me. Now you got to this is your government.
This is your government. The foundation is those are those again,
those seven centers of governments. And anytime there's a public
comment period, you need to show up and say something thoughtful.
They do pay attention when people are showing up and
saying something thoughtful. You're just showing up. And most people
(33:30):
don't show up period. Right, then you just have people
who show up and don't do anything. And then you
have people who show up and they say something but
it's really not helpful, not constructive.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
Or they show up all mad and hurt and one
day another make a scene that doesn't work. Either be constructive,
be constructive when you show up, but show up, because
if you don't show up, then they just keep doing
what they want to do. You've got to show up
and tell them what you want your people to do.
They're working for you, understand that.
Speaker 3 (34:02):
Right, absolutely, absolutely riskin.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
So when you're seeing this, or you're seeing more people
becoming proactive in the country now, or you said you're
an optimist, tell me how you're optimistic. You see more
people showing up.
Speaker 3 (34:18):
I am seeing more people showing up. But again, I
talked about it earlier, and I think we put places.
I pray for the people Americopa, but I do see
a lot of a lot of people. I know people
are tired. I know people are upset. There's divisiveness. We've
(34:40):
got to learn to somehow work together or not spend
time fighting with each other.
Speaker 2 (34:47):
United will stand, Divided will fall, and we're falling now.
We've got to get united. We've got to get people
to work together. The churches are not active. That's one thing.
They've almost emasculated. The churches after the COVID haven't.
Speaker 3 (35:02):
Well. I don't know, it depends. I think actually church
pastors have actually been some of the most active, and
I think you're seeing a lot more active pastors getting involved.
Speaker 2 (35:15):
I'm saying more more action in the black churches than others.
I mean, these a lot of the black churches are
really concerned about what's going on.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
And I think I think so. I think churches are
a key rallying point in the American Revolution. There it
was three percent font ten percent provided support, and most
of those who probably provided support were the pastors and
their flocks.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
Right back then, back then it was and you have
to realize that on the American Revolution and back during
that period, there were very few people who really started
it and kept it going. It was very few. So
it doesn't take a massive movement, does it.
Speaker 3 (35:58):
It doesn't. It was only thirteen percent during the Revolutionary War.
I think we're a lot more than thirteen percent.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
That's incredible how few it takes to get something accomplished.
We need to do this now. The book is called
The War against the Deep State. In this book, you'll
learn who you're battling. That's the important thing to learn
who you're battling, and you also learn how you can
battle them, and they can be defeated because there are
(36:26):
many more of us than are of them, right, yes.
Speaker 3 (36:30):
Yeah, War against the Deepstate dot com?
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yes, yes, okay, And if you haven't got the first book,
it's called The Nation will Follow dot com. So the
nation will follow, and then the War on Deepstate dot
com will be right back on Truth Expressradio dot com.
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I want you to give me some really sage advice
(38:01):
that people can use. Are people getting together now in groups?
Are you seeing this more and more? Because we do
outnumber those of the Deep State. We have to let
them know that they are working for us. We're not
working for them, and this can make a difference. You
think the country can and will be turned around, don't you.
Speaker 3 (38:25):
Well, I think some people are. We're all tired and fatigued.
I got it. We're not happy with what has gone
on in our country.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
No, not at all, years, not at all.
Speaker 3 (38:37):
But you know, I just encourage feeling fatigued to take
a break, rest and then get back into the game.
For those who are in the game, good job, keep
it going. Let's all work toward getting more and more
focused and granular and detailed and impactful. Got to get
(39:02):
out of the world of generalities and complaining. We've got
to start talking again. You got to know your election
law in your state. You've got to do that. You've
got to do that. There's don't wait for a lawyer.
Don't use this as always the cop out O here.
Can't do anything until a lawyer told us something.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
That's right. One of the problems that we had was COVID.
We were told to keep away, keep your mouth shut,
wear your mask, and they're trying to do that again.
This stifled free expression. The other thing that happened was
Twitter and all of the Facebook and all those and
they're still doing it. Not Twitter so much that Elon
(39:45):
Musk took over, but they're stifling any type of free speech.
We lost free speech temporarily, Colonel Mills.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
That is correct. Do you have a government that is anyways
come weaponized to have to win regardless of that? Yeah,
they've absolutely. We've got places like Michigan where you know,
an authoritarian dictator as the governor, coming after citizens for
(40:16):
daring to suggest other electors when the Blue Team has
routinely done this and called for electors.
Speaker 2 (40:26):
To look at what they did to the electors in
Georgia that were the alternate electors that were very clearly
alternate electors, and they did what they they're prosecuting them. Now,
this is you know, if you stand up for what's
right and then get prosecuted, this is not the America
that we fought for that I love.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Yeah, that is correct. A lot of Americans, just the
America they thought they were living in, has been taken
from us so quickly.
Speaker 2 (40:58):
To Colonel Mills, this happened within three years. Yes I did, Yes,
I did, go ahead, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
Yeah, it did happen. And elections have consequences. Still, elections
have catastrophic consequences. So it is immensely concerning what happened,
and so, but the answer is not to give up,
not to get angry, get smart, get tough, and get focused.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Don't give up, don't give in, keep fighting because it's
worth doing, if not for you, for the future generations,
if not for the future generation, for those in the
past who have fought too much, blood has been spilt,
too many people have put there everything on the line.
For us to give up, they really have. We are
the best place on earth. This is the best country
(41:56):
on earth. I believe that, and you believe that you
fought for it.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
You that absolutely absolutely. We've got no other place to go,
and we don't have any choice.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
So that's we really don't. We really don't. Now, when
you were in Panama, did you see a lot of
people coming through there and through the various thing trying
to come to America again, So.
Speaker 3 (42:21):
Yes, yes I did, And I mean, you know, essentially
for every thousand people, that equates to about twenty three
bus loads of people headed north, except for those who
are staying behind. And that's a challenge too, because Panama
is although one of the better economies in Central America
(42:43):
and South America. This is a crushing burden for them too,
and they're they're they're paying for most of the immediate
care of all these illegals coming through the daring.
Speaker 2 (42:57):
My god, how can they afford it?
Speaker 3 (43:00):
They can't. It's crushing the economy.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
Neither can we. So this is this is a worldwide
phenomenon affecting the entire world. We need to have something
coming together to affect this, and we need to talk
about in our own groups, and we need to be
able to get people elected who will do something. Colonel Mills,
thank you and God bless you for what you're doing.
Speaker 3 (43:24):
All right, thank you so much, risken honor to be
on your show.
Speaker 1 (43:28):
Yes, sir, all aboard the Truth Express. You can listen
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