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Speaker 1 (00:06):
Hey, thanks for listening to this Erskine podcast and be
sure to come back and listen to more at Erskine
radio dot com. Thank you. It's an honor. Doctor Sebastian Gorka, PhD,
internationally recognized authority on national security strategy counter terrorism. He
(00:26):
holds the Major General Matthew C. Horner Distinguished Chair of
Military Theory at the Marine Corps University, Regular lecturer for
Special Operations Command, FBI's counter Terrorism Division, Green Bereaves. He
preached the CIA, Defension of Intelligence Agency and National Intelligence Council,
former strategists and Deputy Assistant President Trump, and author of
Defeating Jihad and the upcoming book Why We Fight. Other
(00:50):
than that, he's been pretty relaxed, laid back character, but
he's always a joy to listen to. Doctor Gorka. Welcome
Durskon Overnight.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Now, I'm going to have some fairly quick questions. Who
are just going to be here for a short time?
Love watching you on Fox. By the way, isis is
out of Iraq? This is a very good thing. But
with Iran, we've got some major problems coming up. Some
people saying that we're laying the groundwork for a new war.
Other people are saying, that's what really needs to be done.
(01:22):
To me, it looks like if what needs to be done.
We didn't even support the Iranian people on their up
rising which they had a short while ago, about a
year ago, where the people were heavy and uprising. You
can understand this being from Hungary in nineteen fifty six,
we didn't support the uprising there either. Where the people
are rising up against communism, against totalitarianism, we should be
(01:47):
supporting the people. We haven't done it. But what do
you see with Iran?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well, the President laid absolutely the right decision. The lost
administration with that faith dpoa Iran deal actually strengthened the Mullers,
released more than one hundred and forty billion dollars pay
ransoms in cash for our fifes and made the Iranians
the stronger. We now know that the deal with a sham.
(02:14):
They were in contravention the whole time, still building their
nuclear capabilities. Iran is a menace. They wish destroy America,
they wish destroy our closest ally in the region, Israel.
Finally we have American leadership and Donald Trump will make
sure that this threat is no longer a threat to
America or her friends.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I think we possibly could see an uprising with the
people of Iran, but this time we will sell the
people of Iran we're with you.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Well, you gotta be careful here. We're not here to
solve the world's problems, and this president is not an interventionist.
If the Iranian people choose to replace that direatorship, that
is a beautiful and wonderful thing. But this president is
not going to make the mistake the Bush administration made
in Iraq and elsewhere. So you know, every nation deserves,
(03:07):
you know, the people it puts in power. If the
Iranians wish to stand up for their freedom and liberty,
then America will will applaud that action. But the idea
that we're going to deploy the eighty second airport into Tehran,
that is not what Donald Trump does.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
No, I don't think he would do that, But I
think he would give us passage support for a value
who's seeking freedom, which we never even have had before.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Absolutely, absolutely, Oh yeah, I mean it was shapeful. In
two thousand and nine, right when we've had the Green
Revolution in Irather, the Obama administration didn't even provide moral support,
let alone anything else. So yes, the difference between the
then White House and the current White House is literally
it couldn't be It couldn't be larger, it couldn't be bigger.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
We have a renewed respect worldwide for America seeing this
on every stage, with North Korea, with Iran, everywhere, and
there's a renaissance of optimism. The crowds are cheering mister
Trump and Poland. The crowds are cheering him in Hungary,
though you wouldn't know it watching most of the news
except for Fox and One American news, they're cheering him.
(04:19):
Signs in Israel, mister Trump, make Israel great again. What
does this mode for the unelected European Union? I think
a lot of the peoples in places then Brexit and
other things has caused them to realize that this European
Union is not in the best interests of these people
who are having a resurgence or a rinaissance of a
(04:40):
populist movement. They don't want They want to run their
own countries. Hungary wants to be Hungry, Poland wants to
be Poland. They all want to make their own countries great.
And mister Trump say yes, I want you to. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
So this is the key theme of the Trump phenomena
that most commentative amidst. Whether it's the border wall, whether
it's defeating Isis, whether it's our trade relations with China.
Underpinning all of them was the concept of national sovereignty
and that national sovereignty is a good thing. And I think,
(05:14):
you know, phenomena like the breakdit and the victor of
Donald Trump in the election are connected inectorably. This is
I don't even call this populism. This isn't populism. This
is the reassurtion of democracy and the reassertion of representative governments.
So yes, right, the beautiful, the beautiful thing to see.
(05:36):
And I think other countries will experience a similar wave
as well.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I think it's a renaissance for respect for your own country.
And it's also a result of so much that they
people want to take back and the European Union is
not that people do not have a voice, and that's
how many of the laws in England were written by
the EU instead of the British. Now you're very close,
You were very close with President Trump. Was he surprised
(06:04):
at the widespread depth of corruption, at the depth of
the deep state. Was that a surprise to him? Do
you think or was he aware of how deep it went?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
The president was.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I mean he was aware because he campaigned on on
training the swamp, so he knew this was a massive problems.
I don't think anybody anybody was fully aware of just
how deep it went. The idea that you have the
FBI and the Obama White House involved in a COVID
(06:40):
code named spying campaign against a presidential candidate, I think
not in our wildest dreams, but we think that would
have happened outside of Venezuela or the Soviet Union. So no,
this is this is this is a shock to all
liberty loving America. But now the truth is slowly coming.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Out Russia collusion and all of that talk. In my opinion,
doctor Gorker, what do you think have had two full
number one trying to impeach mister Trump and be an apology
for why Hillary lost. Hillary lost for two reasons. One
is Donald and the second reason is Trump. He was
(07:23):
provided a discussion about what could be positive for this
country as opposed to more of the negativity that was
being promoted. He gave us some positive choice, but the
Russian collusion was Number one is to try to get
something on Trump, a witch on if you will. And
number two, I believe that they wanted to put a
wench between the US and Russia. Whereas Trump wanted to
(07:46):
avoid war, he wanted to establish a relationship between the
two that could avoid war.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
What do you think, Yeah, I don't think it's that complicated.
I don't think it's about creating a witch between the
Russia in America. I think it's very simple. Hillary and
her elite were absolutely confident that they would win, and
they have a cycle. They are psychologically damaged. Remember the
(08:14):
New York Times on the day of the election says
Hillary has more than a ninety percent chance of winning.
So they're desperate for an excuse. And Hillary, you know,
excuses Russia as an excuse. She's used you know, patriarchal society,
She's used Netflix. I think she's up to excuse number
fifty seven for why she lost, and Russia is just
(08:37):
just one of these lame excuses because she can't admit
that she was an awful candidate. She was arrogant, she
didn't resonate with the people, and people didn't want it
to be president.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Doctor Gorka, Thank you so much for being on. I
appreciate all that you're doing on talk television and elsewhere.
You are an absolute treasure. Thank you for all your doing.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
That's very kind. God bless you and the listener.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
God bless you. Doctor Gorka put me right back on
listing overnight. Hey, thanks for listening to this podcast. We
got lots more, so be sure to come back.
Hey, thanks for listening to this Erskine podcast and be
sure to come back and listen to more at Erskine
radio dot com. Thank you. It's an honor. Doctor Sebastian Gorka, PhD,
internationally recognized authority on national security strategy counter terrorism. He
(00:26):
holds the Major General Matthew C. Horner Distinguished Chair of
Military Theory at the Marine Corps University, Regular lecturer for
Special Operations Command, FBI's counter Terrorism Division, Green Bereaves. He
preached the CIA, Defension of Intelligence Agency and National Intelligence Council,
former strategists and Deputy Assistant President Trump, and author of
Defeating Jihad and the upcoming book Why We Fight. Other
(00:50):
than that, he's been pretty relaxed, laid back character, but
he's always a joy to listen to. Doctor Gorka. Welcome
Durskon Overnight.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Now, I'm going to have some fairly quick questions. Who
are just going to be here for a short time?
Love watching you on Fox. By the way, isis is
out of Iraq? This is a very good thing. But
with Iran, we've got some major problems coming up. Some
people saying that we're laying the groundwork for a new war.
Other people are saying, that's what really needs to be done.
(01:22):
To me, it looks like if what needs to be done.
We didn't even support the Iranian people on their up
rising which they had a short while ago, about a
year ago, where the people were heavy and uprising. You
can understand this being from Hungary in nineteen fifty six,
we didn't support the uprising there either. Where the people
are rising up against communism, against totalitarianism, we should be
(01:47):
supporting the people. We haven't done it. But what do
you see with Iran?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well, the President laid absolutely the right decision. The lost
administration with that faith dpoa Iran deal actually strengthened the Mullers,
released more than one hundred and forty billion dollars pay
ransoms in cash for our fifes and made the Iranians
the stronger. We now know that the deal with a sham.
(02:14):
They were in contravention the whole time, still building their
nuclear capabilities. Iran is a menace. They wish destroy America,
they wish destroy our closest ally in the region, Israel.
Finally we have American leadership and Donald Trump will make
sure that this threat is no longer a threat to
America or her friends.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
I think we possibly could see an uprising with the
people of Iran, but this time we will sell the
people of Iran we're with you.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Well, you gotta be careful here. We're not here to
solve the world's problems, and this president is not an interventionist.
If the Iranian people choose to replace that direatorship, that
is a beautiful and wonderful thing. But this president is
not going to make the mistake the Bush administration made
in Iraq and elsewhere. So you know, every nation deserves,
(03:07):
you know, the people it puts in power. If the
Iranians wish to stand up for their freedom and liberty,
then America will will applaud that action. But the idea
that we're going to deploy the eighty second airport into Tehran,
that is not what Donald Trump does.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
No, I don't think he would do that, But I
think he would give us passage support for a value
who's seeking freedom, which we never even have had before.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Absolutely, absolutely, Oh yeah, I mean it was shapeful. In
two thousand and nine, right when we've had the Green
Revolution in Irather, the Obama administration didn't even provide moral support,
let alone anything else. So yes, the difference between the
then White House and the current White House is literally
it couldn't be It couldn't be larger, it couldn't be bigger.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
We have a renewed respect worldwide for America seeing this
on every stage, with North Korea, with Iran, everywhere, and
there's a renaissance of optimism. The crowds are cheering mister
Trump and Poland. The crowds are cheering him in Hungary,
though you wouldn't know it watching most of the news
except for Fox and One American news, they're cheering him.
(04:19):
Signs in Israel, mister Trump, make Israel great again. What
does this mode for the unelected European Union? I think
a lot of the peoples in places then Brexit and
other things has caused them to realize that this European
Union is not in the best interests of these people
who are having a resurgence or a rinaissance of a
(04:40):
populist movement. They don't want They want to run their
own countries. Hungary wants to be Hungry, Poland wants to
be Poland. They all want to make their own countries great.
And mister Trump say yes, I want you to. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
So this is the key theme of the Trump phenomena
that most commentative amidst. Whether it's the border wall, whether
it's defeating Isis, whether it's our trade relations with China.
Underpinning all of them was the concept of national sovereignty
and that national sovereignty is a good thing. And I think,
(05:14):
you know, phenomena like the breakdit and the victor of
Donald Trump in the election are connected inectorably. This is
I don't even call this populism. This isn't populism. This
is the reassurtion of democracy and the reassertion of representative governments.
So yes, right, the beautiful, the beautiful thing to see.
(05:36):
And I think other countries will experience a similar wave
as well.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
I think it's a renaissance for respect for your own country.
And it's also a result of so much that they
people want to take back and the European Union is
not that people do not have a voice, and that's
how many of the laws in England were written by
the EU instead of the British. Now you're very close,
You were very close with President Trump. Was he surprised
(06:04):
at the widespread depth of corruption, at the depth of
the deep state. Was that a surprise to him? Do
you think or was he aware of how deep it went?
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (06:15):
The president was.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
I mean he was aware because he campaigned on on
training the swamp, so he knew this was a massive problems.
I don't think anybody anybody was fully aware of just
how deep it went. The idea that you have the
FBI and the Obama White House involved in a COVID
(06:40):
code named spying campaign against a presidential candidate, I think
not in our wildest dreams, but we think that would
have happened outside of Venezuela or the Soviet Union. So no,
this is this is this is a shock to all
liberty loving America. But now the truth is slowly coming.
Speaker 1 (07:02):
Out Russia collusion and all of that talk. In my opinion,
doctor Gorker, what do you think have had two full
number one trying to impeach mister Trump and be an apology
for why Hillary lost. Hillary lost for two reasons. One
is Donald and the second reason is Trump. He was
(07:23):
provided a discussion about what could be positive for this
country as opposed to more of the negativity that was
being promoted. He gave us some positive choice, but the
Russian collusion was Number one is to try to get
something on Trump, a witch on if you will. And
number two, I believe that they wanted to put a
wench between the US and Russia. Whereas Trump wanted to
(07:46):
avoid war, he wanted to establish a relationship between the
two that could avoid war.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
What do you think, Yeah, I don't think it's that complicated.
I don't think it's about creating a witch between the
Russia in America. I think it's very simple. Hillary and
her elite were absolutely confident that they would win, and
they have a cycle. They are psychologically damaged. Remember the
(08:14):
New York Times on the day of the election says
Hillary has more than a ninety percent chance of winning.
So they're desperate for an excuse. And Hillary, you know,
excuses Russia as an excuse. She's used you know, patriarchal society,
She's used Netflix. I think she's up to excuse number
fifty seven for why she lost, and Russia is just
(08:37):
just one of these lame excuses because she can't admit
that she was an awful candidate. She was arrogant, she
didn't resonate with the people, and people didn't want it
to be president.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Doctor Gorka, Thank you so much for being on. I
appreciate all that you're doing on talk television and elsewhere.
You are an absolute treasure. Thank you for all your doing.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
That's very kind. God bless you and the listener.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
God bless you. Doctor Gorka put me right back on
listing overnight. Hey, thanks for listening to this podcast. We
got lots more, so be sure to come back.
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