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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Wow, am I happy to have with us? Nina May.
She's a producer, She's a director. She's a writer and
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Nina is elevrator Pitch. I love that movie. That was great,
and that is one that really would affect a lot
of people today. It's about the human condition and one
day another. It's founder and chairman of the Renaissance Foundation,
international leadership organization offices in the US and Republic of Korea.
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The Renaissance Foundation hosts international seminars, exchanges, and events that
bring business and political leaders of different countries, different cultural
backgrounds together. Isn't that a nice thing? It really is.
We'll discuss the real backstory of January sixth demonstration. Nina
was filming The Truth The News ignores her websites, Life
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z dot com author Nina May. It's all up on
Erskine Radio or rather truth, Expressradio dot com, im dB
dot com. And that's all up there too, so if
you want to even click on any of those now, Nina,
I got a couple of questions to ask you. You
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were there. You left your house about nine thirty in
the morning, Virginia, got to the Capitol Hill, sent inside
with your film crew about ten fifteen, ten fifty. Ran
to a friend on Pennsylvania Avenue, got a photo of it.
Got as close as you could to the White House
the African American Museum waiting for the speech fifteen minutes
(02:24):
late by now about eleven fourteen, eleven thirty, saying some
friends said they were near the Capitol now to do
the Jericho Walk, but they said there was no one there.
That's what you saw. And you walked past the capital
around ten thirty, almost empty streets. Trump began to speak
at noon more following that, that's what happened. Now, when
(02:47):
Trump spoke, what did he say, go peacefully to the Capitol,
go peacefully? He stressed that word. He also offered troops
to speaker House Speaker Pelosi. She said, no, no, thank you.
Those documents have been lost.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Are you surprised, Yeah, no, no, not at all, but
there are enough people that heard it and can verify
it and validate that that's actually what really did happen.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
And here's the thing that we noticed that he was
an hour late speaking, which is very unusual for him, right,
And I think that timeline threw everything off that they
were planning, because when we got there, he was still
speaking for twenty five minutes after they claimed the resident
or the insurrection occurred. So he's still talking and it
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takes fifty five minutes to walk from the capital to
the White House or vice versa, the White House to
the Capitol. So where were these people that were supposed
to be forming this insurrection that were inspired by him
to do it. It's impossible. For another thing, you couldn't
you could barely hear what he was saying. There was
no cell service, you could barely send text messages, you
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could not call out. So because what we were doing,
because we couldn't hear, we said, well, let's see if
we can pull up, you know, a feed on our
cell phones and we can at least hear it from
you know, where we are. Nothing. There was no one
carrying it. There was no The cell service was so
bad you could not hear the speech on your cell phone,
So if you were, you know, not within hearing distance.
The way we were not really great in hearing distance,
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you couldn't have any other alternative. I texted some of
my friends in the media and I said, who's covering
the speech? Is Fox covering it? Are the major networks covering?
How about Newsmax? And they were flipping all the channels again,
texting me. It was kind of primitive the way we
were doing it, saying, no, no one's covering the speech.
So okay, great, no news coverage of the speech. You
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can't pull it down on your phone. You can barely
hear it when you're there within five hundred yards or
five hundred feet or whatever where he's speaking. So who
did he inspire to cause a revolution or what do
they call it? Insurrection? Who heard an insurrection? And how
come at eleven fifty three, while he's still speaking, they
claimed the first breach happened? And where the breach happened?
(05:09):
They're showing this pitiful, pitiful footage of some of the
police were pushing back against the bike racks, two bike racks,
and there's all these amusing quote pushing back. But if
you hand over to the left and right you can
walk around it. I mean, it was crazy. And if
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you look behind it, it was a green, grassy knoll.
There were no people behind it, and by that time
the place was packed. So let's get the footage on
that and find out when that was shot, and then
you'll get a little clearer idea of what was really
set up and what was planned by quote the powers
that be to make it look like he inspired some
kind of an insurrection.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Some of the Capitol Police holding the doors open for them.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Most of the doors had no one there all the
time that they said they just walked in. Someone said
that they knocked on one of the doors and they
were buzzed in and there was no one in there,
no one on the other side. And of course we've
all seen the footage of the Capitol police beckoning people in,
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holding the doors for them and beckoning them in, and
we're talking about hundreds of people going through. That footage
is about fifteen or twenty minutes long, which is stream
after stream after the stream of people going in peacefully
and the Capitol Hill Police welcoming them in. No one
stopped and said, oh my gosh, you can't come in
here there's a crime scene going on, or you can't
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come in here, because that's not the mo of what
we do here at the Capitol. Because when people come
in for a demonstration or protest or whatever, they do
a rally you name it, from all over the country
there at the Capitol, and they always go through the Capitol.
And one of the things that's always said from the
speakers on the hill is, now that we're here, go
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visit your congressman and your senator and lobby them on
whatever the issues that they're they're talking about. And it
happens all the time. So there's literally nothing new about
what occurred that day that has happened in society. Are
not society, but you know, the civilization when you were
with our citizenry. The only difference is it was Donald
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Trump's speaking and not someone else. That's the big distinction.
But here was my big concern, and it frightened everyone
when we saw it. We got there at about one
point fifteen and immediately maybe it's about one ten, immediately
after we've staked out where we wanted to be, because okay,
this is a perfect spot to set up the cameras,
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we can get the outside of the capitol, we can
get the flow of people coming in. We were walking
on the grass next to capitol. Police are standing there,
kind of strolling along looking at their their cell phones
like there's no big deal. And then within not three minutes,
you see all these swat team type of guys, all
dress and solid black, with their rifles up on the
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balconies where they claimed all the people broke in. There's
no way in God's green know that someone would have
broken in without a gun or anything against at least
two dozen very well armed swat team things. Then they
started shooting flash bangs into a peaceful crowd. Wow, this
crowd was doing nothing but standing there. Did Liz Cheney
ever mention that.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
There are no videos of it either, I don't think.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah, but there's tons of footage of everybody with their
cell phone seeing it. One guy got hit in the
chest and that's what they think caused him to have
a heart attack. So, I mean, it was just it
was frightening, and the whistles of these flash banks was
so ear piercing. We were all yelling like stop it, man,
you're really hurting our ears. What are y'all doing up? There.
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It was no one could believe that they were being
shot at by the Capitol Hill police or whatever police
it was. Maybe it was, you know, I don't know
who they were, but they were. It was a swat
team type looking thing with dressed, you know, head to
toe in black, with their guns and shields. They had
the shields. So when you saw that window being broken
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out by a shield, you're going, well, how did they
take that shield away from one of those swat guys.
There's just no way. There's just no way. So anyway,
it was just one one thing after another that we
were observing as we're around the outway on the outside
of the Capitol and we're seeing things that don't look right.
We're actually at the intersection of I think it was
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Independence and First Street, is basically the far back corner
of the Capitol. I took a video in the middle
of the intersection there showing that there was nothing happening.
I mean, there was nothing. We're talking about a thirty
second walk to the back of the Capital from this intersection.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
And we couldn't we couldn't believe it. So after we
took that, we said, okay, we're looking from we're looking
through binoculars from this townhouse we were operating out of.
We're seeing live on TV that Ashley Babbitt has been
shot and all hell is bringing.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Right, one killed, the only one killed there, right, and
that was and the way that was shot, the way
she was shot is just deplorable. It really is.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Well double shoot. The way she was shot by the
gun and the way she was shot by the camera,
that's impossible. The way he got that money shot of
the man sticking the gun out, slowly shoots the gun,
swings the camera around, sees her falling out of the window.
I mean, that's something that you would like choreograph or something.
It was just and you hear the man that's behind
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the camera saying, we did it, we got it, we
did it right. What did what? What did you do? Exactly?
So why don't they play the security tape on that
and see that was running that camera and ask him
specifically you did what? And why aren't you in jail?
I mean, this is as close as you're getting to
the violence right there, And oh there was violence. Someone
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shot someone. Are you a party of this? You know?
Are you part of this quote insurrection? Why weren't they locked.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Up and nothing. Nothing happened to the officer who shot asked, no,
a decorated hero, decorated military, Right, that's.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Right exactly, And so they're just here's here's another thing
that we noticed. We're seeing her get shot. We said
we got to walk back over there. So we left
the townhouse. We walked to the back of the capitol.
This is when I stopped to take the picture in
the intersection. Standing in the middle of the intersection, right,
not one policeman and no one, no cars, no no
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one walking. It was like a ghost town. So then
we walked to the back of the capitol and everyone's
just kind of up on the balcony sing God bless
America and chanting the USA, USA, the Capitol Halle. Police
are just standing there like they're part of a church
choir or something on the back steps, and it was
so peaceful. But this was my takeaway. There's not one siren,
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not one EMP not one ambulance. So she was supposed
to have been shot like fifteen minutes before this. Where's
the ambulance? Where are the police cars? If there was
someone shot in the Capitol, they would lock that thing
down so quickly. They would get everyone out of there.
They would put up barricades the way they claim they
had barricades, which they didn't have any of them. Sure
they would, they would have responded. There was zero response
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to when she was shot. There was just nothing, total silence.
And again I'm thinking, this is just weird. I can't
I just saw it on TV that this woman was shot.
Why isn't anyone responded. Why are the Capitol Hill police
just sort of standing there on the back stair.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yes, you saw pictures of them take you saw pictures
of them taking her body out, almost dragging her down
those steps, and uh, nobody there. Nobody there, no ambulance,
no nothing.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yeah, and when she was shot, if you look in
the background, there are all these quote Capitol Hill police.
I'm using quote marks with my finger because maybe they
weren't Capitol Hill police, right. They were there, dressed to
be like Capitol but they just stood there as she's
as she's you know, dying. They're not doing anything. They aren't.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
No, they didn't. There was no rush to do anything.
You think that poor lady could have had her life
saved if they had just gotten.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Some there they're standing there looking down at her and
the guy that's taking the pictures. He's just filming away.
That's why I'm saying, where's that guy? They could? They know?
We all to be honest, we all know who it was,
because he signed some contracts that morning with some of
the networks to get paid a gazillion dollars. I'm using,
you know, right being decetious if he got the money
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shots for them, and guess what you got one of
these money shots.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
We're going to have to take a break right now.
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Five cases were dismissed in federal eighth in superior court. Now,
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how many cops were killed? Because when you're looking at
they keep saying, well, all these police were killed during this.
These people were just horrible. They killed all the police
and all of this. I don't think there was a
single cop who died there was there.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Well, the only one that I know that. No one
was killed but this way. But this officer sicnic I
think his name was, He died the next day of
natural causes.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Like, yeah, he had a stroke or heart attack something
like that.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Wasn't that Yeah, something like that. But no one's talking
about the ones that committed suicide that day. I think
there was like three of them. Now, why in the
world would a Capitol holle police kill himself on one
of the biggest days of his entire profession.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Unless they knew something and they didn't want it out,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Yeah, so where's the story on that? You know? Why
aren't they honored in some way? They died that day.
Maybe they were so overwhelmed by what they were seeing
happening to their beloved capital they just couldn't take it
and they killed themselves. But why don't we hear about them?
I mean that just is a little bit suspicious. And
then now you've got the head of the capitolhille Police,
basically telling a totally different story than what was told
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at Liz Cheney show trial that basically he was told
to stand down. He was told there's no problem, there's
nothing to look, nothing to see, move along, even though
he said no, I mean, we need to take this seriously.
They're often offering a special help. No, no, you don't
need the special help. Just listen to us, you know,
sit down and shut up. And so he's speaking out now.
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So I'm hoping that a lot more people are starting
to have the courage to speak up, and it's going
to unravel this story that they have been trying to
sell to the people since the beginning of time. And
again they these people in jail have not received due process.
That's a violation of their constitutional rights. You're innocent until
proven guilty. They've already been tried in a course of
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political opinion, right, and so how are they ever going
to get a fair trial from this point on. Hopefully,
if they've got good lawyers, hopefully they will ask to
see that security tape, and not only can they prove
the innocence of their client, that maybe they'll be able
to get to the bottom of what really happened with
the people like ray Epps who are involved. Who now
(17:58):
you're saying that he's on AOL or whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, nobody would find him, but there are supposedly a
lot of other FBI or police who were there. I
think probably FBI, and we're looking at the FBI right
now that they have certainly been doing has certainly become weaponized,
which is certainly not what we wanted in this country.
But uh, you've got people like ray Epps who were
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telling people, come on in, this is a way, get
in there right now, you've got to. In other words,
he was fermenting the people, and it may have been
that's one of these red flag operations that were set up.
It sort of sounds that way, right exactly.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
In fact, one of the early footage that we saw
of him encouraging people to come in, some guy looks
right in the camera. He says, no, it's a setup.
They're FEDS.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, I heard that.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
He's yelling. He's yelling to the people, don't fall for it.
Don't fall for it. So you're so, okay, who is
who is guilty here? You got one encouraging people to
have an insurrection, right, another one just because he happened
to be there, saying no, don't all for him is
a bit. What happened to that poor man? Did he
get arrested? Did he get thrown in jail? No?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And the other thing is it never was an insurrection.
They used terms like insurrection or riot or something like that.
You won't see a riot. Go see chops up in Seattle,
Go see some of these other places where they had
actual riots. Those were real riots.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Or go to any street in New York City today.
It's just it's a fire.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Practically absolutely, we're going to take a break right down.
We'll be right back. This was an insurrection. No, how
many people were killed? One Ashley Babbitt? Was she a hero?
In certain respects? She's a military hero.
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Speaker 2 (21:04):
Want to talk with Nina about some of the sentences
that were given. Stuart Rhodes eighteen years, leader of the
Oathkeepers last week since eighteen years in prison for seditionous conspiracy.
He's a Yale law graduate military veteran. In the first
of fourteen January sixth defendants, including nine oath Keepers, face
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sentencing after convicted of suspicious conspiracy. I don't even know
what suspicious conspiracy is. Said that something any of us
could do. Peter Schwartz, fourteen years in prison, found guilty
November ten or on ten charges four felony assault resisting
impeding officers while using a dangerous weapon was a dangerous weapon.
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He threw a chair. Thomas Webster ten years. New York
City police officer assaulted DC officer on the front lines
of the riot. They call it riot, and Webster was
the first defendant to present self defense argument. Jury rejected
claim because he tackled the DC officer and grabbed his
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gas mask. Say he wish that he'd never gone to Washington.
I bet he does. Jessica Watkins eight and a half
years Army veteran member the Oathkeepers, eight and a half
years in prison, soon leading a small bullish in Ohio
to then mobilize in Washington, marched on the Capitol, encouraged rioters,
push pass police. Kyle Young seven years, Patrick mcconoughy's seven
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and a half years. But there's one that's very interesting
that I found in here, and I'll get his name
in just a second. This guy only got about three
and a half years. Two of them. I'll do the
first one here. Richard big o' Barnett, a man who
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was photographed in January sixth with his feet on the
desk of Speaker Nancy Pelosive office. Four and a half
half years in prison, Barnett became a symbol of the
brazenness of the January sixth attack January this year, Barnett's
convicted i eight charges, including obstructing congress January sixth proceedings,
as well as disorderly conduct in the Capitol while carrying
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a dangerous weapon. He insisted he had expressed remorse for
his action for putting his feet on the disk. That
was it, put his feet on Pelosi's desk and Jacob
Chensley you know who.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
That is, Yeah, the guy of the horns.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, Yeah, who gained notoriety for going shortlist wearing a
horned head dress when there are pictures of the police
leading him into the into the Capitol opening the door
for him.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yeah, that was the one that Tucker broke and he
did his show on it, and that's why they let
him out of jail because the proof was so overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
He was sentenced to three and a half years, released
halfway out from May twenty twenty three. The follower of
Q and Non Conspiracy Movement didn't engage in physical violence,
but leader among those who went to the Senate chamber
and disrupted the electoral vote. He persist pleted guilty to
attempting to obstruct congress effort to certify the results of
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the twenty twenty election. These are insane. Now, is it's
still going on? Yes? I told you at the beginning
January August first, the FBI arrested a Lexington, Kentucky man
on Tuesday for his alleged role in the US Capitol
riotse January sixth, forty three year old Berry Saturday. He
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was arrested on Tuesday, but his named Saturday and civil disorder,
knowingly entering and remaining a restricted building or grounds, disorderly restricted,
disruptive conduct and in a restricted building, disorderly conduct in
a Capitol building. He was identified being part of a
group of rioters. They identified them off of a photo
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that they had.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Now, good question is did any of those people that
attacked the White House and started tearing down the statues
at Lafayette Park any of them even get arrested. They
were trying to break down the barriers around the White House.
They were grabbing the fence trying to pull them down,
and there were policemen. I think there were like one
hundred policemen that were somehow injured during all that. Not
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one person went to jail over that. Not one. Wow,
That's why you can tell this whole thing is political
and it's a joke.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
The other thing is the other thing is the entire
FBI across the nation was put on this one case.
This is what the entire FBI did ever since January sixth,
building up this one case. And of course this is
strictly to go after Donald J. Trump, But this was
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one case that they went on and they arrested over
a thousand people and they're still arresting people. And the
way that they treat these people. Photos of the horrific
January sixth prisoner abuse if you can find online. Tortured
for five months in isolation in a closet room with
a light on, a bucket for a toilet, held without trial,
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and most of them were there just in their underwear.
That's it. This is in humane. You wouldn't find this.
You wouldn't find this in a third world country. Putting
people in such inhumane holding them without a trial for
five months. Isn't this against everything this country stands for.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Yeah, and it's interesting that they'll do that to a
US citizen who's still innocent untill proven guilty. Right, but
they don't the best one single person coming illegally over
our southern borders. So you know, maybe if if the
word got out down to the southern border that they
come in they're going to be treated like these January
sixth people, maybe they think twice about coming in, because
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they'd be saying, well, shoot, that's what they do back
in my country. I might as well just stay here.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
You said that. You see the part that you wrote.
You say, the committee proves it is conducting a stylinist
show trial from the beginning bottom regime and power and
Murray Garland still at the helm of the Justice Department's
likely to get worse, and it certainly is getting worse.
But the amount of money, okay here, it is massive, undertaking,
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scope and costs. Every US Attorney's office has been involved,
every US attorneys, every FBI field office. One point seven
trillion governments spending package passed in December, two point six
billion allocated to the US attorneys in part to support
the January sixth prosecutions. Think about that two point six
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billion dollars. Now, defendants for contact seven percent of the population,
Military veterans, police and sheriff's patrol make up less than
one percent. A lot of them were there.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Look at the damage that was done at the rally
outside the insurrection, I would say outside the White House
and at Lafayette Park. The amount of money that it
costs that they the damage that they did, and the
damage that was done inside the Capitol. I think the
capital is what ten thousand dollars or something crazy like that.
If it was millions of dollars of damage that they
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did outside the White House, you had them threatening US
senators as they were coming out of an event at
the White House and their wives. Even the policemen that
were there couldn't help. They could barely, you know, defend
them and get them out of there before the crowd
was going to try and literally kill them. So why
aren't we looking at that one? What's the big deal
about the January sixth one being such a serious insurrection?
(28:41):
But nothing else in this entire country even equates to that.
And I would say that if they don't go after
the people that they are in the White House, then
basically this is definitely a show trial. They could care
less about actually finding people that were quote guilty of something.
They're trying to terrorize the American people against any kind
of future rallies that they could possibly have if they
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disagree with the government. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
And then the AOC she hid for our life, she
hid for her life, had turned out proof that she
wasn't even in the Capitol at the time. Who is
that AOC?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Oh yeah, right, she was at her in her office, right.
And talk to some of the congressmen who were told
to go and stay in a room, and they were
locked in a room. And if you ask them why
they were in there, they said, we didn't. They didn't
tell us why we were in there. A lot of
them had no idea what was going on, so, you know,
it just it's interesting. The Republicans had no idea what
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was going on. But you listen to the Democrats. They
all are spending these amazing, outrageous tales that could not
possibly have happened.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Now, do you have a video of this that's up
somewhere be your videos?
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Yes, I do, and I've circulated it.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Why ar and y good because a lot of the
videos that they have are disappearing, right, No, now you've heard?
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Yeah, Well, I don't post anything online. I send stuff
out individually to people and then they send it out
and send it out. It's kind of like a phone tree, right,
fashion phone tree.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
That way, nobody can take it down.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Yeah, because you just can't trust that things are going
to stay up after you post them, and it's just
too much trouble to police it. So you just send
it to me. If you got ten thousand people on
your email list, send it to them. They send it
to their people and everybody sees it and they know
what's going on.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Now, you did a movie that I thought was very,
very good, and we need to talk a little bit
about it. It's Daily Bread. Is that the one?
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Yeah, that's the TV series. It's a post traumatic I
mean sorry, post apocalyptic traumatic series. And yeah, it's done great,
but people people need to know about it. And it
is on Amazon, It's on I think it's on everything
but Netflix, I mean every single one.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Of the platform. It's good.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
It's very timely now because it's a solar flare that
knocks out electricity around the world and people have to
figure out how they can, you know, survive this. But
this group that we follow is kind of an ensemble cast.
It's a cast and crew of a cooking show. These
seven millennial girls are standing on a farm and they've
got to figure out how to survive but then they
do pretty well. Now it's about thriving and helping rebuild
(31:23):
the society in the community. At the same time, you've
got some preppers that think they're ready for something like this,
but they're really not prepared emotionally. You got the batty
biker dudes that want to take from everybody. You've got
the stragglers, You've got the refugees, You've got the family
members that are trying to all, you know, find each
other and come together. It's very it's very, very compelling
(31:46):
and a lot of fun. We had a great time
shooting it.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Now, this could actually happen. It's happened before, called the
Carrington the Fact, and it knocked out all the telegraph
offices all across the world. And it also could happen
if you have an atomic bomb go off in the
atmosphere about two hundred and fifteen, well see the Ball
of Miles.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Yeah. And I wanted it to be just nature doing it,
basically God flicking a switch. I didn't want it to
be a bomb made by man or an emp I
didn't want zombies. I don't want anything. It's basically just
solar flare, knox out electricity, boom. How are you going
to deal with this?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Well, well, how would you deal with it? You have
no power for gasoline, you can't use the pump, you
can't get around, You're stuck wherever you are. If you're
in a city, you're probably dead.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Yeah, they say about ninety percent of the population would
die after about six.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Weeks and there's nowhere, nowhere to go or nothing you
can do. Here in Phoenix we ran fifteen days of
one hundred and fifteen degree temperature. How many people would
survive that without air conditioning?
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Oh yeah, I mean it would just be a mess.
It really would be. But here's the thing too, In
the point we make throughout the series is that we're
only about one hundred years away from there really being
no electricity around for everyone. Yeah, that's big cities the electricity.
But go in rural areas. They were still using candle
light or whatever. They didn't have light bulbs. Let'say, maybe
(33:16):
one hundred and twenty years. Let's go back that far.
You know, they didn't have the telephones, they didn't have
gas cars, they horse and bugy or whatever. So it's
not that far in our past that we did not
have electricity. The problem with where we are today is
we're so dependent on it everything, And so that's what
this makes you think about all the things that you
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do just automatically and expect electricity to happen, but it doesn't.
Things like the pump to your well is electric. That
means you don't have running water. That means you don't
have water for your toilets. That means if you want
to use the toilet, you got to run down to
the lake. If you've got a lake, fill a bucket
with water port in the back of the toilet. I
mean little things like that. How do you cook, how
do you clean? How do you know, take baths, how
(34:01):
do you and again this is just you're in a
house with electricity, so it's not like the hordes are
trying to take what you've got at that point. But
then after you figured it out, yeah, then the hordes
are going to come and try and take what you
get because they see that there's life in that farm
or in that house or or whatever. So we try
and cover every single possible problem you could come across,
(34:23):
or you could have if a solar flare did happen,
and what the solution to that problem would be. We
try and kind of educate people at the same time.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
This is not some far flung it will never happen
event with the zombies coming out. No, this is something
that will happen. It's happened before.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Oh yeah, we had an expert on solar weather from
MIT give us advice after I'd written the script, because
I thought, you know what, I want to make sure
that I'm not making stuff up at a whole cloth
that actually happened this way, and so I asked him,
I said in the script. He says, nine of that's
spot on the way. You've identified what would happen with
the solar flare. It's a pole flare, so electricity. We
(35:01):
will take about thirty six hours to impact the entire
world because we're spending at one thousand miles an hour,
and the pulsing of the of the solar flare would
be hitting the different parts of the world sporadically until
pretty soon the entire world would be impacted by that.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Well, so knock out all the transformers. There are none
made in this country anymore. We could not have nearly
enough transformers to ever replace them.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
If you knock out Canada, you've knocked out the eastern
seaboard of the United States of America. We're totally tied
to Canada's grid, right, which is crazy, And we should
have a GFI switch or something that could in an
emergency flick us off from them so that we you know,
we aren't together, because if it hits them, it's going
to hit us.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Well, the last big one hit Canada and then hit us,
and that was when they had the telegraph offices burning
and just catching firepoor operator going there to type something
and the whole office hall just catch fire.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yeah, that was back in about eighteen I think fifty
nine was the Carrington event, right, And if Carrington event
happened today, it would be exactly like our movie, I
mean our TV series exactly like it. But because with
the Carrington event they didn't have electricity, had they did
have the telegraph wires. Even if you were holding barbed
wire so you're fixing the events, you would be electrocuted
(36:21):
if you happen to have your hand on barbed wire.
They were seeing the Aurora borealis as far south as Cuba. Wow, yeah,
I mean, so that event really did shake the people.
And again, any scientists today will say that if the
Carrington event happened today, we would be toast. Now.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
Remember the series. Watch it, it's called Daily Bread. Watch
that series. We'll be right back. The Biden administration is
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After spending a two point one trillion dollars stimulus, the
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a new show, Reparations, tell about that.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
It's the sequel to the documentary we did, which is Emancipation, Revelation, Revolution.
That's the history of the civil rights movement in America.
The role of party, both political parties played in it.
What happens to conservative blacks who leave that liberal plantation
and embrace the Party of Lincoln. So the sequel is reparations.
Who should pay? Basically, the bottom line is anyone should
pay a dime of reparations. That should be the Democrat
(38:21):
Party because they left the country as started their own
slave holding state, their own country. They had their own president,
their own flag, their own currency, their own constitution, and
in their constitutions like twenty different ways that you can
say we will be a slave owning state. We love slavery.
Slavery will always exist in our country.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Right. That was under Jefferson Davis, and that was.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Das was Democrat party that did that. Jefferson Davis was
a Democrat. Every person elected official that supported slavery was
a Democrat. The Republican Party was founded at the Abolitionist
Party right and found it in eighteen fifty boar and
was it in eleven years A battle was a war
(39:08):
was fought, and the North one and it ended slavery.
We had thirteenth fourteen, fifteenth Amendment, all proposed by the
voted on by the Republicans, totally objected by and opposed
by the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
I think I think they restarted slavery to a large
degree when they made everyone beholding to the federal government,
especially when they started paying families to not have fathers
in the home and paying more money if you only
had you were a single parent. That was a really
big part to bring slavery back.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Was that was their liberal plantation right to make sure
was still alive. So they had to demean the black
blacks in this country and say you're not worthy of
the freedoms at the thirteenth, fourteenth, fifteen the amendment give you.
You know, we're going to give you a little bit
of check here and that'll to take care of you.
But you'll be on our plantation. You understand. They're still
doing the same thing. They founded the KKK Terrorist Party,
(40:07):
and it was to try and keep blacks from voting
because every single.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
And then you had Margaret Sanger, who was the grand
patron of abortion and Margaret Sanger was giving speeches before
the KKK and her entire operation planned Parenthood was to
limit the black population exactly.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
And she was the one that shared the final solution
with Hitler. She loved Hitler, the greatest thing since sly spread.
She wanted to do that to the blacks in this country,
put them in in Terman camps. And again, she is
a Democrat. All these people are Democrat. The very first
movie ever played in the White House was the Birth
of a Nation by d. W. Griffith Wilson. President Wilson
(40:51):
loved it. It was a pro KKK movie, right. He
was an absolute pro KKK supporter. So I mean for
them crats to say, oh, it's the Republicans that are
the racist, No, no, sorry, not at all, not by
any means.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Historically, it's the Democrat party that has always been racist
and keeping them down and using it that way, and
they always had a consistent vote with the blacks. And
more and more blacks are waking up the more and
more speaking out exactly.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
My question to the for the black Democrats, how in
the world can you belong to the party of slavery,
the party of Jim Crow, the Party of KKK, the
Party of segregation. You're belonging to them, you're supporting them
their new plantation of socialism, globalism, Marxism. It's the same thing.
It's just a different plantation.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
They are using the black population. That's what they're doing.
And it's time for them to wake up, as other
people to wake up. Also, it's not that they yeah,
that's exactly what's happening, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Yes, it is now. If they want to know more
about that, go to err video dot com. And then
also you can see all of our other things that
we've done renaissance and productions. But you can see those movies.
You can see one that we did with showing Joe
Biden as president he was a vice president when Senator
Robert Byrd, a grand legal of the KKK. At his funeral,
(42:24):
he's being eulogized by our current sitting president. So let
that sink in people. It's just it's incredible that they've
gotten away literally with murder and nothing is done, and
they're doing exactly the same thing with the way that
they've turned this judicial system into a poison pill. And
it's just it's destroying our country. They're destroying our country.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
It really is, it really is destroying America. It's not
what America is about. America was one of the first
countries in the world. Need to be taught this because
it's the truth that did away with slavery before England,
before other countries. We did away with slavery, and unfortunately
they're trying to bring it back, but in a different form,
(43:08):
a cleaner form. Nina, thank you so much for being on.
I can't tell you how much I've enjoyed it. And
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We'll discuss the real backstory of January sixth demonstration. Nina
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you want to even click on any of those now, Nina,
I got a couple of questions to ask you. You
(02:01):
were there. You left your house about nine thirty in
the morning, Virginia, got to the Capitol Hill, sent inside
with your film crew about ten fifteen, ten fifty. Ran
to a friend on Pennsylvania Avenue, got a photo of it.
Got as close as you could to the White House
the African American Museum waiting for the speech fifteen minutes
(02:24):
late by now about eleven fourteen, eleven thirty, saying some
friends said they were near the Capitol now to do
the Jericho Walk, but they said there was no one there.
That's what you saw. And you walked past the capital
around ten thirty, almost empty streets. Trump began to speak
at noon more following that, that's what happened. Now, when
(02:47):
Trump spoke, what did he say, go peacefully to the Capitol,
go peacefully? He stressed that word. He also offered troops
to speaker House Speaker Pelosi. She said, no, no, thank you.
Those documents have been lost.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Are you surprised, Yeah, no, no, not at all, but
there are enough people that heard it and can verify
it and validate that that's actually what really did happen.
Speaker 4 (03:17):
And here's the thing that we noticed that he was
an hour late speaking, which is very unusual for him, right,
And I think that timeline threw everything off that they
were planning, because when we got there, he was still
speaking for twenty five minutes after they claimed the resident
or the insurrection occurred. So he's still talking and it
(03:40):
takes fifty five minutes to walk from the capital to
the White House or vice versa, the White House to
the Capitol. So where were these people that were supposed
to be forming this insurrection that were inspired by him
to do it. It's impossible. For another thing, you couldn't
you could barely hear what he was saying. There was
no cell service, you could barely send text messages, you
(04:02):
could not call out. So because what we were doing,
because we couldn't hear, we said, well, let's see if
we can pull up, you know, a feed on our
cell phones and we can at least hear it from
you know, where we are. Nothing. There was no one
carrying it. There was no The cell service was so
bad you could not hear the speech on your cell phone,
So if you were, you know, not within hearing distance.
The way we were not really great in hearing distance,
(04:24):
you couldn't have any other alternative. I texted some of
my friends in the media and I said, who's covering
the speech? Is Fox covering it? Are the major networks covering?
How about Newsmax? And they were flipping all the channels again,
texting me. It was kind of primitive the way we
were doing it, saying, no, no one's covering the speech.
So okay, great, no news coverage of the speech. You
(04:45):
can't pull it down on your phone. You can barely
hear it when you're there within five hundred yards or
five hundred feet or whatever where he's speaking. So who
did he inspire to cause a revolution or what do
they call it? Insurrection? Who heard an insurrection? And how
come at eleven fifty three, while he's still speaking, they
claimed the first breach happened? And where the breach happened?
(05:09):
They're showing this pitiful, pitiful footage of some of the
police were pushing back against the bike racks, two bike racks,
and there's all these amusing quote pushing back. But if
you hand over to the left and right you can
walk around it. I mean, it was crazy. And if
(05:29):
you look behind it, it was a green, grassy knoll.
There were no people behind it, and by that time
the place was packed. So let's get the footage on
that and find out when that was shot, and then
you'll get a little clearer idea of what was really
set up and what was planned by quote the powers
that be to make it look like he inspired some
kind of an insurrection.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Some of the Capitol Police holding the doors open for them.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
Most of the doors had no one there all the
time that they said they just walked in. Someone said
that they knocked on one of the doors and they
were buzzed in and there was no one in there,
no one on the other side. And of course we've
all seen the footage of the Capitol police beckoning people in,
(06:15):
holding the doors for them and beckoning them in, and
we're talking about hundreds of people going through. That footage
is about fifteen or twenty minutes long, which is stream
after stream after the stream of people going in peacefully
and the Capitol Hill Police welcoming them in. No one
stopped and said, oh my gosh, you can't come in
here there's a crime scene going on, or you can't
(06:36):
come in here, because that's not the mo of what
we do here at the Capitol. Because when people come
in for a demonstration or protest or whatever, they do
a rally you name it, from all over the country
there at the Capitol, and they always go through the Capitol.
And one of the things that's always said from the
speakers on the hill is, now that we're here, go
(06:58):
visit your congressman and your senator and lobby them on
whatever the issues that they're they're talking about. And it
happens all the time. So there's literally nothing new about
what occurred that day that has happened in society. Are
not society, but you know, the civilization when you were
with our citizenry. The only difference is it was Donald
(07:20):
Trump's speaking and not someone else. That's the big distinction.
But here was my big concern, and it frightened everyone
when we saw it. We got there at about one
point fifteen and immediately maybe it's about one ten, immediately
after we've staked out where we wanted to be, because okay,
this is a perfect spot to set up the cameras,
(07:41):
we can get the outside of the capitol, we can
get the flow of people coming in. We were walking
on the grass next to capitol. Police are standing there,
kind of strolling along looking at their their cell phones
like there's no big deal. And then within not three minutes,
you see all these swat team type of guys, all
dress and solid black, with their rifles up on the
(08:02):
balconies where they claimed all the people broke in. There's
no way in God's green know that someone would have
broken in without a gun or anything against at least
two dozen very well armed swat team things. Then they
started shooting flash bangs into a peaceful crowd. Wow, this
crowd was doing nothing but standing there. Did Liz Cheney
ever mention that.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
There are no videos of it either, I don't think.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
Yeah, but there's tons of footage of everybody with their
cell phone seeing it. One guy got hit in the
chest and that's what they think caused him to have
a heart attack. So, I mean, it was just it
was frightening, and the whistles of these flash banks was
so ear piercing. We were all yelling like stop it, man,
you're really hurting our ears. What are y'all doing up? There.
(08:46):
It was no one could believe that they were being
shot at by the Capitol Hill police or whatever police
it was. Maybe it was, you know, I don't know
who they were, but they were. It was a swat
team type looking thing with dressed, you know, head to
toe in black, with their guns and shields. They had
the shields. So when you saw that window being broken
(09:06):
out by a shield, you're going, well, how did they
take that shield away from one of those swat guys.
There's just no way. There's just no way. So anyway,
it was just one one thing after another that we
were observing as we're around the outway on the outside
of the Capitol and we're seeing things that don't look right.
We're actually at the intersection of I think it was
(09:27):
Independence and First Street, is basically the far back corner
of the Capitol. I took a video in the middle
of the intersection there showing that there was nothing happening.
I mean, there was nothing. We're talking about a thirty
second walk to the back of the Capital from this intersection.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (09:46):
And we couldn't we couldn't believe it. So after we
took that, we said, okay, we're looking from we're looking
through binoculars from this townhouse we were operating out of.
We're seeing live on TV that Ashley Babbitt has been
shot and all hell is bringing.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Right, one killed, the only one killed there, right, and
that was and the way that was shot, the way
she was shot is just deplorable. It really is.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Well double shoot. The way she was shot by the
gun and the way she was shot by the camera,
that's impossible. The way he got that money shot of
the man sticking the gun out, slowly shoots the gun,
swings the camera around, sees her falling out of the window.
I mean, that's something that you would like choreograph or something.
It was just and you hear the man that's behind
(10:29):
the camera saying, we did it, we got it, we
did it right. What did what? What did you do? Exactly?
So why don't they play the security tape on that
and see that was running that camera and ask him
specifically you did what? And why aren't you in jail?
I mean, this is as close as you're getting to
the violence right there, And oh there was violence. Someone
(10:49):
shot someone. Are you a party of this? You know?
Are you part of this quote insurrection? Why weren't they locked.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Up and nothing. Nothing happened to the officer who shot asked, no,
a decorated hero, decorated military, Right, that's.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Right exactly, And so they're just here's here's another thing
that we noticed. We're seeing her get shot. We said
we got to walk back over there. So we left
the townhouse. We walked to the back of the capitol.
This is when I stopped to take the picture in
the intersection. Standing in the middle of the intersection, right,
not one policeman and no one, no cars, no no
(11:26):
one walking. It was like a ghost town. So then
we walked to the back of the capitol and everyone's
just kind of up on the balcony sing God bless
America and chanting the USA, USA, the Capitol Halle. Police
are just standing there like they're part of a church
choir or something on the back steps, and it was
so peaceful. But this was my takeaway. There's not one siren,
(11:46):
not one EMP not one ambulance. So she was supposed
to have been shot like fifteen minutes before this. Where's
the ambulance? Where are the police cars? If there was
someone shot in the Capitol, they would lock that thing
down so quickly. They would get everyone out of there.
They would put up barricades the way they claim they
had barricades, which they didn't have any of them. Sure
they would, they would have responded. There was zero response
(12:10):
to when she was shot. There was just nothing, total silence.
And again I'm thinking, this is just weird. I can't
I just saw it on TV that this woman was shot.
Why isn't anyone responded. Why are the Capitol Hill police
just sort of standing there on the back stair.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Yes, you saw pictures of them take you saw pictures
of them taking her body out, almost dragging her down
those steps, and uh, nobody there. Nobody there, no ambulance,
no nothing.
Speaker 4 (12:38):
Yeah, and when she was shot, if you look in
the background, there are all these quote Capitol Hill police.
I'm using quote marks with my finger because maybe they
weren't Capitol Hill police, right. They were there, dressed to
be like Capitol but they just stood there as she's
as she's you know, dying. They're not doing anything. They aren't.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
No, they didn't. There was no rush to do anything.
You think that poor lady could have had her life
saved if they had just gotten.
Speaker 4 (13:01):
Some there they're standing there looking down at her and
the guy that's taking the pictures. He's just filming away.
That's why I'm saying, where's that guy? They could? They know?
We all to be honest, we all know who it was,
because he signed some contracts that morning with some of
the networks to get paid a gazillion dollars. I'm using,
you know, right being decetious if he got the money
(13:25):
shots for them, and guess what you got one of
these money shots.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
We're going to have to take a break right now.
We'll be right back with Nina May incredible story of
January sixth, The thing that has captivated that is being
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have introduced another three train dollar plan to add to
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nine ninety four DC. Twenty four people plead guilty, five
forty one individuals who had jerry or bench trials. Sixty
seven convicted on all charges, forty two acquitted in all charges,
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one number mixed verks. Twenty four people sentenced four under
forty five people whose sentence who received prison time fifty
eight median sentence for those who received prison time in
sixty days. Now it ranged from seven days to ten years.
Five cases were dismissed in federal eighth in superior court. Now,
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how many cops were killed? Because when you're looking at
they keep saying, well, all these police were killed during this.
These people were just horrible. They killed all the police
and all of this. I don't think there was a
single cop who died there was there.
Speaker 4 (15:56):
Well, the only one that I know that. No one
was killed but this way. But this officer sicnic I
think his name was, He died the next day of
natural causes.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
Like, yeah, he had a stroke or heart attack something
like that.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Wasn't that Yeah, something like that. But no one's talking
about the ones that committed suicide that day. I think
there was like three of them. Now, why in the
world would a Capitol holle police kill himself on one
of the biggest days of his entire profession.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
Unless they knew something and they didn't want it out,
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (16:31):
Yeah, so where's the story on that? You know? Why
aren't they honored in some way? They died that day.
Maybe they were so overwhelmed by what they were seeing
happening to their beloved capital they just couldn't take it
and they killed themselves. But why don't we hear about them?
I mean that just is a little bit suspicious. And
then now you've got the head of the capitolhille Police,
basically telling a totally different story than what was told
(16:54):
at Liz Cheney show trial that basically he was told
to stand down. He was told there's no problem, there's
nothing to look, nothing to see, move along, even though
he said no, I mean, we need to take this seriously.
They're often offering a special help. No, no, you don't
need the special help. Just listen to us, you know,
sit down and shut up. And so he's speaking out now.
(17:15):
So I'm hoping that a lot more people are starting
to have the courage to speak up, and it's going
to unravel this story that they have been trying to
sell to the people since the beginning of time. And
again they these people in jail have not received due process.
That's a violation of their constitutional rights. You're innocent until
proven guilty. They've already been tried in a course of
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political opinion, right, and so how are they ever going
to get a fair trial from this point on. Hopefully,
if they've got good lawyers, hopefully they will ask to
see that security tape, and not only can they prove
the innocence of their client, that maybe they'll be able
to get to the bottom of what really happened with
the people like ray Epps who are involved. Who now
(17:58):
you're saying that he's on AOL or whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Yeah, nobody would find him, but there are supposedly a
lot of other FBI or police who were there. I
think probably FBI, and we're looking at the FBI right
now that they have certainly been doing has certainly become weaponized,
which is certainly not what we wanted in this country.
But uh, you've got people like ray Epps who were
(18:21):
telling people, come on in, this is a way, get
in there right now, you've got to. In other words,
he was fermenting the people, and it may have been
that's one of these red flag operations that were set up.
It sort of sounds that way, right exactly.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
In fact, one of the early footage that we saw
of him encouraging people to come in, some guy looks
right in the camera. He says, no, it's a setup.
They're FEDS.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Yeah, I heard that.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
He's yelling. He's yelling to the people, don't fall for it.
Don't fall for it. So you're so, okay, who is
who is guilty here? You got one encouraging people to
have an insurrection, right, another one just because he happened
to be there, saying no, don't all for him is
a bit. What happened to that poor man? Did he
get arrested? Did he get thrown in jail? No?
Speaker 2 (19:05):
And the other thing is it never was an insurrection.
They used terms like insurrection or riot or something like that.
You won't see a riot. Go see chops up in Seattle,
Go see some of these other places where they had
actual riots. Those were real riots.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
Or go to any street in New York City today.
It's just it's a fire.
Speaker 2 (19:24):
Practically absolutely, we're going to take a break right down.
We'll be right back. This was an insurrection. No, how
many people were killed? One Ashley Babbitt? Was she a hero?
In certain respects? She's a military hero.
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Speaker 2 (21:04):
Want to talk with Nina about some of the sentences
that were given. Stuart Rhodes eighteen years, leader of the
Oathkeepers last week since eighteen years in prison for seditionous conspiracy.
He's a Yale law graduate military veteran. In the first
of fourteen January sixth defendants, including nine oath Keepers, face
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sentencing after convicted of suspicious conspiracy. I don't even know
what suspicious conspiracy is. Said that something any of us
could do. Peter Schwartz, fourteen years in prison, found guilty
November ten or on ten charges four felony assault resisting
impeding officers while using a dangerous weapon was a dangerous weapon.
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He threw a chair. Thomas Webster ten years. New York
City police officer assaulted DC officer on the front lines
of the riot. They call it riot, and Webster was
the first defendant to present self defense argument. Jury rejected
claim because he tackled the DC officer and grabbed his
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gas mask. Say he wish that he'd never gone to Washington.
I bet he does. Jessica Watkins eight and a half
years Army veteran member the Oathkeepers, eight and a half
years in prison, soon leading a small bullish in Ohio
to then mobilize in Washington, marched on the Capitol, encouraged rioters,
push pass police. Kyle Young seven years, Patrick mcconoughy's seven
(22:32):
and a half years. But there's one that's very interesting
that I found in here, and I'll get his name
in just a second. This guy only got about three
and a half years. Two of them. I'll do the
first one here. Richard big o' Barnett, a man who
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was photographed in January sixth with his feet on the
desk of Speaker Nancy Pelosive office. Four and a half
half years in prison, Barnett became a symbol of the
brazenness of the January sixth attack January this year, Barnett's
convicted i eight charges, including obstructing congress January sixth proceedings,
as well as disorderly conduct in the Capitol while carrying
(23:16):
a dangerous weapon. He insisted he had expressed remorse for
his action for putting his feet on the disk. That
was it, put his feet on Pelosi's desk and Jacob
Chensley you know who.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
That is, Yeah, the guy of the horns.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, Yeah, who gained notoriety for going shortlist wearing a
horned head dress when there are pictures of the police
leading him into the into the Capitol opening the door
for him.
Speaker 4 (23:46):
Yeah, that was the one that Tucker broke and he
did his show on it, and that's why they let
him out of jail because the proof was so overwhelming.
Speaker 2 (23:54):
He was sentenced to three and a half years, released
halfway out from May twenty twenty three. The follower of
Q and Non Conspiracy Movement didn't engage in physical violence,
but leader among those who went to the Senate chamber
and disrupted the electoral vote. He persist pleted guilty to
attempting to obstruct congress effort to certify the results of
(24:16):
the twenty twenty election. These are insane. Now, is it's
still going on? Yes? I told you at the beginning
January August first, the FBI arrested a Lexington, Kentucky man
on Tuesday for his alleged role in the US Capitol
riotse January sixth, forty three year old Berry Saturday. He
(24:38):
was arrested on Tuesday, but his named Saturday and civil disorder,
knowingly entering and remaining a restricted building or grounds, disorderly restricted,
disruptive conduct and in a restricted building, disorderly conduct in
a Capitol building. He was identified being part of a
group of rioters. They identified them off of a photo
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that they had.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
Now, good question is did any of those people that
attacked the White House and started tearing down the statues
at Lafayette Park any of them even get arrested. They
were trying to break down the barriers around the White House.
They were grabbing the fence trying to pull them down,
and there were policemen. I think there were like one
hundred policemen that were somehow injured during all that. Not
(25:24):
one person went to jail over that. Not one. Wow,
That's why you can tell this whole thing is political
and it's a joke.
Speaker 2 (25:31):
The other thing is the other thing is the entire
FBI across the nation was put on this one case.
This is what the entire FBI did ever since January sixth,
building up this one case. And of course this is
strictly to go after Donald J. Trump, But this was
(25:52):
one case that they went on and they arrested over
a thousand people and they're still arresting people. And the
way that they treat these people. Photos of the horrific
January sixth prisoner abuse if you can find online. Tortured
for five months in isolation in a closet room with
a light on, a bucket for a toilet, held without trial,
(26:15):
and most of them were there just in their underwear.
That's it. This is in humane. You wouldn't find this.
You wouldn't find this in a third world country. Putting
people in such inhumane holding them without a trial for
five months. Isn't this against everything this country stands for.
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Yeah, and it's interesting that they'll do that to a
US citizen who's still innocent untill proven guilty. Right, but
they don't the best one single person coming illegally over
our southern borders. So you know, maybe if if the
word got out down to the southern border that they
come in they're going to be treated like these January
sixth people, maybe they think twice about coming in, because
(26:54):
they'd be saying, well, shoot, that's what they do back
in my country. I might as well just stay here.
Speaker 2 (26:59):
You said that. You see the part that you wrote.
You say, the committee proves it is conducting a stylinist
show trial from the beginning bottom regime and power and
Murray Garland still at the helm of the Justice Department's
likely to get worse, and it certainly is getting worse.
But the amount of money, okay here, it is massive, undertaking,
(27:22):
scope and costs. Every US Attorney's office has been involved,
every US attorneys, every FBI field office. One point seven
trillion governments spending package passed in December, two point six
billion allocated to the US attorneys in part to support
the January sixth prosecutions. Think about that two point six
(27:43):
billion dollars. Now, defendants for contact seven percent of the population,
Military veterans, police and sheriff's patrol make up less than
one percent. A lot of them were there.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
Look at the damage that was done at the rally
outside the insurrection, I would say outside the White House
and at Lafayette Park. The amount of money that it
costs that they the damage that they did, and the
damage that was done inside the Capitol. I think the
capital is what ten thousand dollars or something crazy like that.
If it was millions of dollars of damage that they
(28:17):
did outside the White House, you had them threatening US
senators as they were coming out of an event at
the White House and their wives. Even the policemen that
were there couldn't help. They could barely, you know, defend
them and get them out of there before the crowd
was going to try and literally kill them. So why
aren't we looking at that one? What's the big deal
about the January sixth one being such a serious insurrection?
(28:41):
But nothing else in this entire country even equates to that.
And I would say that if they don't go after
the people that they are in the White House, then
basically this is definitely a show trial. They could care
less about actually finding people that were quote guilty of something.
They're trying to terrorize the American people against any kind
of future rallies that they could possibly have if they
(29:02):
disagree with the government. That's what it's all about.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
And then the AOC she hid for our life, she
hid for her life, had turned out proof that she
wasn't even in the Capitol at the time. Who is
that AOC?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
Oh yeah, right, she was at her in her office, right.
And talk to some of the congressmen who were told
to go and stay in a room, and they were
locked in a room. And if you ask them why
they were in there, they said, we didn't. They didn't
tell us why we were in there. A lot of
them had no idea what was going on, so, you know,
it just it's interesting. The Republicans had no idea what
(29:36):
was going on. But you listen to the Democrats. They
all are spending these amazing, outrageous tales that could not
possibly have happened.
Speaker 2 (29:44):
Now, do you have a video of this that's up
somewhere be your videos?
Speaker 4 (29:49):
Yes, I do, and I've circulated it.
Speaker 2 (29:52):
Why ar and y good because a lot of the
videos that they have are disappearing, right, No, now you've heard?
Speaker 4 (30:02):
Yeah, Well, I don't post anything online. I send stuff
out individually to people and then they send it out
and send it out. It's kind of like a phone tree, right,
fashion phone tree.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
That way, nobody can take it down.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
Yeah, because you just can't trust that things are going
to stay up after you post them, and it's just
too much trouble to police it. So you just send
it to me. If you got ten thousand people on
your email list, send it to them. They send it
to their people and everybody sees it and they know
what's going on.
Speaker 2 (30:30):
Now, you did a movie that I thought was very,
very good, and we need to talk a little bit
about it. It's Daily Bread. Is that the one?
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Yeah, that's the TV series. It's a post traumatic I
mean sorry, post apocalyptic traumatic series. And yeah, it's done great,
but people people need to know about it. And it
is on Amazon, It's on I think it's on everything
but Netflix, I mean every single one.
Speaker 2 (30:58):
Of the platform. It's good.
Speaker 4 (31:01):
It's very timely now because it's a solar flare that
knocks out electricity around the world and people have to
figure out how they can, you know, survive this. But
this group that we follow is kind of an ensemble cast.
It's a cast and crew of a cooking show. These
seven millennial girls are standing on a farm and they've
got to figure out how to survive but then they
do pretty well. Now it's about thriving and helping rebuild
(31:23):
the society in the community. At the same time, you've
got some preppers that think they're ready for something like this,
but they're really not prepared emotionally. You got the batty
biker dudes that want to take from everybody. You've got
the stragglers, You've got the refugees, You've got the family
members that are trying to all, you know, find each
other and come together. It's very it's very, very compelling
(31:46):
and a lot of fun. We had a great time
shooting it.
Speaker 2 (31:49):
Now, this could actually happen. It's happened before, called the
Carrington the Fact, and it knocked out all the telegraph
offices all across the world. And it also could happen
if you have an atomic bomb go off in the
atmosphere about two hundred and fifteen, well see the Ball
of Miles.
Speaker 4 (32:08):
Yeah. And I wanted it to be just nature doing it,
basically God flicking a switch. I didn't want it to
be a bomb made by man or an emp I
didn't want zombies. I don't want anything. It's basically just
solar flare, knox out electricity, boom. How are you going
to deal with this?
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Well, well, how would you deal with it? You have
no power for gasoline, you can't use the pump, you
can't get around, You're stuck wherever you are. If you're
in a city, you're probably dead.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
Yeah, they say about ninety percent of the population would
die after about six.
Speaker 2 (32:39):
Weeks and there's nowhere, nowhere to go or nothing you
can do. Here in Phoenix we ran fifteen days of
one hundred and fifteen degree temperature. How many people would
survive that without air conditioning?
Speaker 4 (32:54):
Oh yeah, I mean it would just be a mess.
It really would be. But here's the thing too, In
the point we make throughout the series is that we're
only about one hundred years away from there really being
no electricity around for everyone. Yeah, that's big cities the electricity.
But go in rural areas. They were still using candle
light or whatever. They didn't have light bulbs. Let'say, maybe
(33:16):
one hundred and twenty years. Let's go back that far.
You know, they didn't have the telephones, they didn't have
gas cars, they horse and bugy or whatever. So it's
not that far in our past that we did not
have electricity. The problem with where we are today is
we're so dependent on it everything, And so that's what
this makes you think about all the things that you
(33:39):
do just automatically and expect electricity to happen, but it doesn't.
Things like the pump to your well is electric. That
means you don't have running water. That means you don't
have water for your toilets. That means if you want
to use the toilet, you got to run down to
the lake. If you've got a lake, fill a bucket
with water port in the back of the toilet. I
mean little things like that. How do you cook, how
do you clean? How do you know, take baths, how
(34:01):
do you and again this is just you're in a
house with electricity, so it's not like the hordes are
trying to take what you've got at that point. But
then after you figured it out, yeah, then the hordes
are going to come and try and take what you
get because they see that there's life in that farm
or in that house or or whatever. So we try
and cover every single possible problem you could come across,
(34:23):
or you could have if a solar flare did happen,
and what the solution to that problem would be. We
try and kind of educate people at the same time.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
This is not some far flung it will never happen
event with the zombies coming out. No, this is something
that will happen. It's happened before.
Speaker 4 (34:40):
Oh yeah, we had an expert on solar weather from
MIT give us advice after I'd written the script, because
I thought, you know what, I want to make sure
that I'm not making stuff up at a whole cloth
that actually happened this way, and so I asked him,
I said in the script. He says, nine of that's
spot on the way. You've identified what would happen with
the solar flare. It's a pole flare, so electricity. We
(35:01):
will take about thirty six hours to impact the entire
world because we're spending at one thousand miles an hour,
and the pulsing of the of the solar flare would
be hitting the different parts of the world sporadically until
pretty soon the entire world would be impacted by that.
Speaker 2 (35:17):
Well, so knock out all the transformers. There are none
made in this country anymore. We could not have nearly
enough transformers to ever replace them.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
If you knock out Canada, you've knocked out the eastern
seaboard of the United States of America. We're totally tied
to Canada's grid, right, which is crazy, And we should
have a GFI switch or something that could in an
emergency flick us off from them so that we you know,
we aren't together, because if it hits them, it's going
to hit us.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Well, the last big one hit Canada and then hit us,
and that was when they had the telegraph offices burning
and just catching firepoor operator going there to type something
and the whole office hall just catch fire.
Speaker 4 (36:00):
Yeah, that was back in about eighteen I think fifty
nine was the Carrington event, right, And if Carrington event
happened today, it would be exactly like our movie, I
mean our TV series exactly like it. But because with
the Carrington event they didn't have electricity, had they did
have the telegraph wires. Even if you were holding barbed
wire so you're fixing the events, you would be electrocuted
(36:21):
if you happen to have your hand on barbed wire.
They were seeing the Aurora borealis as far south as Cuba. Wow, yeah,
I mean, so that event really did shake the people.
And again, any scientists today will say that if the
Carrington event happened today, we would be toast. Now.
Speaker 2 (36:39):
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got just a little bit more time, but you've got
a new show, Reparations, tell about that.
Speaker 4 (38:00):
It's the sequel to the documentary we did, which is Emancipation, Revelation, Revolution.
That's the history of the civil rights movement in America.
The role of party, both political parties played in it.
What happens to conservative blacks who leave that liberal plantation
and embrace the Party of Lincoln. So the sequel is reparations.
Who should pay? Basically, the bottom line is anyone should
pay a dime of reparations. That should be the Democrat
(38:21):
Party because they left the country as started their own
slave holding state, their own country. They had their own president,
their own flag, their own currency, their own constitution, and
in their constitutions like twenty different ways that you can
say we will be a slave owning state. We love slavery.
Slavery will always exist in our country.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Right. That was under Jefferson Davis, and that was.
Speaker 4 (38:48):
Das was Democrat party that did that. Jefferson Davis was
a Democrat. Every person elected official that supported slavery was
a Democrat. The Republican Party was founded at the Abolitionist
Party right and found it in eighteen fifty boar and
was it in eleven years A battle was a war
(39:08):
was fought, and the North one and it ended slavery.
We had thirteenth fourteen, fifteenth Amendment, all proposed by the
voted on by the Republicans, totally objected by and opposed
by the Democrats.
Speaker 2 (39:22):
I think I think they restarted slavery to a large
degree when they made everyone beholding to the federal government,
especially when they started paying families to not have fathers
in the home and paying more money if you only
had you were a single parent. That was a really
big part to bring slavery back.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
Was that was their liberal plantation right to make sure
was still alive. So they had to demean the black
blacks in this country and say you're not worthy of
the freedoms at the thirteenth, fourteenth, fifteen the amendment give you.
You know, we're going to give you a little bit
of check here and that'll to take care of you.
But you'll be on our plantation. You understand. They're still
doing the same thing. They founded the KKK Terrorist Party,
(40:07):
and it was to try and keep blacks from voting
because every single.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
And then you had Margaret Sanger, who was the grand
patron of abortion and Margaret Sanger was giving speeches before
the KKK and her entire operation planned Parenthood was to
limit the black population exactly.
Speaker 4 (40:29):
And she was the one that shared the final solution
with Hitler. She loved Hitler, the greatest thing since sly spread.
She wanted to do that to the blacks in this country,
put them in in Terman camps. And again, she is
a Democrat. All these people are Democrat. The very first
movie ever played in the White House was the Birth
of a Nation by d. W. Griffith Wilson. President Wilson
(40:51):
loved it. It was a pro KKK movie, right. He
was an absolute pro KKK supporter. So I mean for
them crats to say, oh, it's the Republicans that are
the racist, No, no, sorry, not at all, not by
any means.
Speaker 2 (41:06):
Historically, it's the Democrat party that has always been racist
and keeping them down and using it that way, and
they always had a consistent vote with the blacks. And
more and more blacks are waking up the more and
more speaking out exactly.
Speaker 4 (41:23):
My question to the for the black Democrats, how in
the world can you belong to the party of slavery,
the party of Jim Crow, the Party of KKK, the
Party of segregation. You're belonging to them, you're supporting them
their new plantation of socialism, globalism, Marxism. It's the same thing.
It's just a different plantation.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
They are using the black population. That's what they're doing.
And it's time for them to wake up, as other
people to wake up. Also, it's not that they yeah,
that's exactly what's happening, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (42:00):
Yes, it is now. If they want to know more
about that, go to err video dot com. And then
also you can see all of our other things that
we've done renaissance and productions. But you can see those movies.
You can see one that we did with showing Joe
Biden as president he was a vice president when Senator
Robert Byrd, a grand legal of the KKK. At his funeral,
(42:24):
he's being eulogized by our current sitting president. So let
that sink in people. It's just it's incredible that they've
gotten away literally with murder and nothing is done, and
they're doing exactly the same thing with the way that
they've turned this judicial system into a poison pill. And
it's just it's destroying our country. They're destroying our country.
Speaker 2 (42:46):
It really is, it really is destroying America. It's not
what America is about. America was one of the first
countries in the world. Need to be taught this because
it's the truth that did away with slavery before England,
before other countries. We did away with slavery, and unfortunately
they're trying to bring it back, but in a different form,
(43:08):
a cleaner form. Nina, thank you so much for being on.
I can't tell you how much I've enjoyed it. And
remember you've got the information we've been lied to about
January sixth, It's Nina.
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My Favorite Murder is a true crime comedy podcast hosted by Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark. Each week, Karen and Georgia share compelling true crimes and hometown stories from friends and listeners. Since MFM launched in January of 2016, Karen and Georgia have shared their lifelong interest in true crime and have covered stories of infamous serial killers like the Night Stalker, mysterious cold cases, captivating cults, incredible survivor stories and important events from history like the Tulsa race massacre of 1921. My Favorite Murder is part of the Exactly Right podcast network that provides a platform for bold, creative voices to bring to life provocative, entertaining and relatable stories for audiences everywhere. The Exactly Right roster of podcasts covers a variety of topics including historic true crime, comedic interviews and news, science, pop culture and more. Podcasts on the network include Buried Bones with Kate Winkler Dawson and Paul Holes, That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast, This Podcast Will Kill You, Bananas and more.
The Joe Rogan Experience
The official podcast of comedian Joe Rogan.