August 30, 2025 • 43 mins
Prime Minister Salih Hudayar SPECIAL SUMMER ENCORE
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Speaker 1 (00:12):
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Speaker 2 (00:18):
Politics, policies, business and government issues.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Prime Minister Sali Hudier is a weaker American who escaped
severe opposition and discrimination in China. He's in contact with
some of the Hong Kong protesters. Also as Prime Minister
of East Turkestan government in exile, he is an understanding
of China like nobody else. We're talking about slave labor
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in China, crimes against humanity, Chinese inroads in America, and
much more. His website National Awakening dot org recommend that
for you to go to Sali. I didn't watch any
of the Beijing Olympics. I think it was just putting
their the best face on Beijing that they could. I
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don't think it was a very nice face even what
we saw.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yes, unfortunately the Beijing Olympics. I mean, it should have
not happened, but it happened.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
And you know, the.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
International community was not effective in pushing back against it.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
No, no, and they allowed them to do things like
they were trying to make China look so good and
all of this, and why did they pulling out a
Wiger to light the torch at the beginning. That was
just beyond the pale, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yes, I mean that was you know, a simple uh
you know, political statement by China to one state that
you know, the fact that it was a Chinese male
and a weaker woman who was doing this. This is
like a state meant, you know, by the Chinese government
to saying that, what can you do to the international community,
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while at the same time to our people, see, you know,
we can parade you like this anytime we in the
international community won't be able to object to Now.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Starting February fifth, nineteen ninety seven, thousands of the Wigers
and other Turkey Turkey peoples of East Turkistan couldn't bear
the oppression anymore and they took to the streets. What
happened on that that was ninety seven, So this is
nothing new that's going on the oppression.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yes, nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
This we right there were you there at that time
solely I.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Was in East Takistan, not particularly in the part of
East Turkistan where the event occurred. But in nineteen ninety seven,
following the you know, years after following the followed the
Soviet Union, the people of East Turkistan. They began to
you know, push back in peaceful ways, you know, demanding
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their right independence, and the Chinese government they executed thirty
East Takistan independence activists, which led to thousands of people,
you know, taking to the streets in February, you know,
just wearing sweathers to clearly show to the world that
you know, they're peaceful, they're unarmed and demand you know,
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basic you know, freedoms and into the Chinese occupation and
colonization of East Cirkuistan, and it resulted in a brutal
massacre in which the Chinese government killed hundreds of protesters
and arrested thousands.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Right now, that wasn't the start of it. That was
just the culmination. People said enough enough at that point.
That's what they were saying. Standing up for human rights.
That's all it was about, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yes, standing up for human rights and freedom.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Right. Uh, this is and we're supposedly going into uh
Are the fight in the Ukraine is supposedly about human
rights and freedom. But they have just absolutely ignored the
rights of the vigers. Uh. This new administration Biden has
totally ignored it. And they become buddy buddy with China.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Unfortunately, Yes, I mean even yesterday in the Uh, I mean,
I mean he you know, he previously called China the
biggest geopolitical threat to the United States. Uh he you know,
during the elections, I didn't hear.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I didn't hear any of that in the State of
the Union.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
No, no, absolutely not. During the elections, he had stated
that he would stand up against China genotide of the
wagers in the songest terms. But at the State of
the Union. Uh, he only mentioned China twice. Uh, in
no way, you know, anything you know significant he you know,
Uh wasn't It wasn't even you know, calling out China
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for what it was doing. He did not even mention
the Wigers or the genocide that's happening. And this, ultimately,
you know, is going to encourage China and only embolden
them to continue.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Now do you expect them to take over Taiwan.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Given what we are seeing?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Uh? In Ukraine, the fact that the international community has
shown a lot of support for Ukraine, I think that
might have pushed back. Uh. You know, she's ambitions at
least for the time being too.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Well versus there's a difference with the Ukraine. They have NATO,
but they really do not have an effective organization UH
to help with Taiwan. And the United States never even
took the lead on the Ukraine. That was done by
Germany and even UH even Switzerland came in on that,
which they never come in on anything. And though so
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this was an amalgamation of all the European nations, you
don't have that many nations to support on Taiwan. Hopefully
Japan would come into support because they they are going
to be affected by that. It's going to affect everyone.
So but they couldn't. They couldn't stand up for the
protesters in Hong Kong. They can't stand up for the wigers.
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Are we just become a paper tiger as a nation?
Have we no founding of what is right and wrong?
This isn't about right and wrong. It isn't complicated.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yes, I mean, right now, as far as you know Taiwan,
the US has reiterated, you know that it's going to
you know, at least support Taiwan in some levels.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
That would make me feel a lot better. Right if
I was at Taiwan right now, wouldn't it you? Right?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Absolutely? And then also the seizing things, you know, like
the Communist Party there about to have their you know,
the congressional meeting, you know, top level meeting this fall,
this coming fall. So I doubt that shooting thing is
going to do anything in terms of Taiwan until after
that meeting.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I thought they would do it right after the Olympics,
but apparently what's happened in the Ukraine has given them pause.
Now the weaker situation, has that improved or gotten worse?
What's the situation with your people?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
The situation in East Turkistan is not at all. There's
no improvements. I mean, things are getting much worse. The
Chinese government is continuing to you know, suppress our basic freedoms,
you know, continue to incarcetrate millions of people in concentration camps,
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in prison. And although the UN you know, said that
they would want to go into East Turkistan, the Chinese
government has made it clear that they're not to allow
the UN to uh, you know, conduct any form of investigations.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Now, are they sending their own people in to take
over the properties of the Chinese people, take over the
properties of the wakers, or that's what they're doing, so
that they are displacing them all, not only concentration camps,
but just displacing them where the property, many of the.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Many of the properties, the homes of leaguers, you know,
that have been thrown into the camps and prisons, their businesses,
everything has been you know, auctioned off to Chinese people
by the Chinese government.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
They're settling and you know, every day bringing thousands of
Chinese settlers into East Turkistan, you know, to quote develop
and modernize East Turkistan, which is essentially colonization, while forcing
orders and other Turkic peoples to uh, you know, work
as slave labor and you know, relocating them, transferring hundreds
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of thousands of millions of them into you know, Chinese
provinces where they're sent to you know, slave labor factories
and prisons.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
You've got pictures of all that, which is incredible. Now,
when you're talking about what's happening in East circumstance is
basically not basically it is it's genocide, genocide against your people.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yes, it's been recognized as genocide by the US government,
by the parliaments of about ten ten countries across the world.
Every major human rights organization has has called it a genocide.
The entire world knows that it's the genocide, but because
of the political and economic power that Chinda has, many
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governments are reluctant to do anything or to even you know,
acknowledge it.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
What would you like to see the United States do?
How can we help the people?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Well, one of the things, you know, like what's happening
right now with the Ukrainian conflict, for example, because of
a lot of international uh pressure, if if if you know,
if a quarter, if even of the attention that was
given to Ukraine was given to you know, East Turkistan,
that would make a significant king for example, the ICC
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is going to be you know, investigating you know, rush
for the Ukrainian war. This is something that we have
been trying to get the ICC to do, and the
US government can you know, uh, you know, easily call
on the ic C and call on other governments to
call on the ic C to investigate China for the
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genocide that it is undertaking it East Turkistan. In addition
to that, despite China being you know, a member of
the UN Security Council, the United States, as a member
of the Security Council, can also bring the East Turkistan
issue to the agenda of the UN Security councilor you know,
despite whether its China vetos that or not, it's still
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going to be brought. And that in itself will you know,
show serious the US is about this issue, and it
will you know, you know, give hope for not only
our people, but it will encourage other governments across the
world to come out and appost China as genocide.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Now President Trump put sanctions on China threatened even more.
But under the current administration, there are no sanctions being
threatened or anything with sanctions. Are there sanctions that could
be brought against China to not only bring not only
would it stop a lot of what's going on there,
but it also would bring a lot of jobs back
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to this country.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Absolutely. You know, right now they're talking about they've sanctioned
Russia for the Ukrainian War, for the invasion of Ukraine,
and China is the one who's economically backing Russia and
ensuring that, you know, despite these sanctions, Russia is able
to continue its occupation, invasion and occupation efforts in Ukin.
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So the United States and the Free World needs to
sanctioned China, you know, economically, they need to you know,
for example, many Russian diplomats have been kicked out of
the United States out of what's right. The same thing
needs to happen to Chinese diplomats.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Now, let me ask you a question. A lot of
these companies that are supporting China, it seems to be
that they're more concerned about making money than they are
doing the right thing. And you've had places give you
an example, the NBA, the National Basketball Association, has certainly
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been pro China because they're making so much money off
of it. But you've got a gentleman who came over
whose last name is Freedom, who's kicked out of the
NBA because he told about what was happening. And he's
from Turkey, and he's telling about what happened, took the
last name of freedom. He believes in freedom. He's standing
up for for the rights of the wigers, He's standing
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up for the rights of a lot of people, and
he's being kicked out for just standing up for that.
This is not right on every level. I know you
know who I'm talking about, right.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, again, the NBA, whether it's NBA, whether it's Disney,
whether it's you know, other companies like Cocola right, right,
you know, even you know Tesla, you know they're all.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Apple, Apple computer of course, right and.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
All you know count howing China and have to make
a few.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Bucks will be run back.
Speaker 1 (13:49):
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Speaker 3 (14:48):
Today there was a pipeline going from Israel and from
Jordan directly to Turkey, and the Bide administration canceled it.
They can't cancel the pipeline coming from KNASA to the
United States. They allow the pipeline from Russia into Germany.
(15:11):
This is insanity. What can be done with what's going
on with China and with a weaker situation. We know
it's there, we know it's there. It's virtually the same
as happening with Nazi Germany. We know exactly what's happening.
It's a genocide. What can we the people do here?
(15:32):
What do you think can be done, mister Prime Minister.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Of the people? I mean, the basic, the most simplest
thing that we can do is to raise awareness through
you know, social media, to any through any means, you know,
like using social media, organizing events that are local you know, churches,
riety centers, writing to our members of Congress or elected officials,
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urging them to you know, speak out, you know, boycotting
Chinese goods and services, and you know, uh, you know,
calling on the government, the US government to take more
meaningful action the you know, with the the whole Ukrainian
situation as we as we are seeing, you know, it
was the governments are only beginning to act after the people,
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you know, across the world begin to pressure.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Them to act.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
And so you know, we have to use the power
of the people to pressure our governments to act against China.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Well, one thing, there are a lot of Ukrainians in
this country, and so they feel more of a tie.
There are not a whole lot of Wiggers in this country,
so they don't feel as much of a tie with that.
But the fact of the matter is these companies, the
greed of Nike, the greed of Apple, uh, a lot
of it is doing with greed. They don't want to
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offend China because if they do, they want it's a
huge market. That's another thing they're talking about when I'm
understanding that China is not as strong as a lot
of people think. Even the Chinese Communist Party is only
like ten percent of the population in China. The Chinese
people are not even backing it. Have you heard the
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same thing. I'm sure you have.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Well, I mean, like the Chinese government initially with the
Ukrainian situation, they've you know, they've been backing Russia openly
and then now with the international community supporting Ukraine, they're
beginning to know, you know, pull back a little bit.
But they still have they still have refused to call
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it an invasion. They still have you know, they're still
blaming the United States and the West for you know,
the Russians invasion of Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Right, which is insanity, absolutely insanity. I mean that's crazy. Now.
One of the things that you've written about than you've
talked about are we've we've heard about is d J
shutting down China focused anti esproonage programs. China initiative is
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being cast aside because of perceptions it's unfairly paid Chinese
Americans and US residents of Chinese origin. Is this loyal?
But the Chinese Justice Department was focused on countering Chinese espionage.
There's a lot of Chinese espionage going on in this country,
isn't there?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Unfortunately there is. I mean the Chinese government, you know,
over the past couple of decades, they've been heavily invested,
you know, investing in you know, trying to infiltrate you know, organizations,
governments and even you know, intelligence agencies across the world.
We definitely see this in the case of you know,
the East Takistan you know, uh and Easternkistanese slash weaker
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you know, diaspora community and organizations, they have been you
know hindling our our efforts to you know, advocate for
on on behalf of these circustan So this is an
issue that needs to be you know, addressed at the
you know, highest levels, not just by the United States,
by but by all you know, governments.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
In the free world. So if you got them, are
they worried about what you're doing? Obviously they are.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Absolutely. I mean I think you know, constant you know,
surveillance threats. You know, they even you know, have been
waiting you know, uh you know uh, you know, like
psychological and you know political forfare can be you know,
trying to uh you know, demonize it. Of course.
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how to pronounce it? Tame Plopata, Yeah, okay, tell about him?
This is this is really incredible.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Well, tamath Palapatia I mean he's a billionaire investor and
also you know, you know, fund manager and uh you know,
co owner of a of an NBA team.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I mean he uh, there's a guy who you very
seldom hearback because he travels under the radar. But he
started coming out he's not a nice person, is he?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yes? Uh, you know, you know a podcast with other
you know, people like himself. You know when they ask
you know, when he was asked coming on the Weaker
situation about the genocide, he said, you know, nobody cares
about the Weakers. Then he said, you know that's not I.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Remember when he said that nobody cares, right, I mean
what kind of person says something like that.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I mean it's greedy people. That's that's the type of
people that you know state things like that.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I mean, you you this is a civilization. Let's be
honest about the civilization. The Wiger civilization goes back what
three four thousand years? I mean they've been there. I mean, uh,
maybe longer.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You know, historical data, archeology and records. Weakers you know, uh,
they're estimated to go back over six thousand years.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Wow. Wow, And that was you were Viggers went, uh
to the west and form Turkey. The Turkey Shu people
are basically as ties East Turkstead because they basically are
the viguers who went to the west starting Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, they were, you know, part of the times some
of the times that you know ended up going westward
following the Mongol you know, conquest of Central Asia.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
And so when you're talking about that land, you're talking
about the land which has been years for six thousand
years and people lived peacefully for most of that time there.
And the Chinese they feel like it's due to the
they have it because they just won't take it basically,
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and because your people, you didn't have a lot of
weapons or anything, did you. No.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Unfortunately, we were you know, caught in between you know,
various empires and you know, the British Empire and the
Soviet Union and China, and ultimately rise we became you know,
you know, ponds and the subtle for you know, in
this great power competition, and ultimately the Soviet Union and
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Russia came together, I mean, the Soviet Union and China
came together to invade and occupy each took us time.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Your your people are basically freedom loving farmers and that
type of thing as I can conceive it. Am I
am I right or wrong? Uh?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I mean historically we've you know, been farmers, not all
us farmers, but you know most of them farmers. Also,
you know, craftsmen, uh.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Right, And you weren't you weren't warriors or anything like that.
You took a live and let live situation.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Well, I mean we we did have elements periodically that
we were you know, uh were warriors, but most of
the time we were just you know, businessmen, you know, right,
and getting the track.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
You know, you didn't want to China, but China chin
to be China, you will be a circumensine. And you
were living comfortably happily that way until they decided. Until
what they decided they found minerals and things like that.
Where where you are was that while the keys.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Well, China took over East Turkistan is there's multiple reasons.
I mean, the strategic location of East Turkistan history. We've
been a bridge between east and west. We've been the
cornerstone or the center of this ancient Silk road. Also
East Turkestan, you know, is rich and natural and general resource.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
That's where I was going. You things and you're also
a crossroads. So you had those two things making you
strategically important to China.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Especially now, yes, given that you know it's the cost
of China's you know ambitious you know Belton Road initiative,
which is, you know a plan for China to achieve
you know, global domination.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Now, when you're talking about China and what they're doing
in this country, you're talking about espionage and they have
the Chinese cultural centers at every college and university. They
are buying up property next to our bases here. They
are infiltrating our political system as we can see. Swallwell's
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just an example. You've got other examples. The Biden family
where they have been they've sold out to China. There's
no other way to put it, is there that they've
sold out.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I mean it's it's much more you know complex than that.
There seems to be a lot of you know, moving parts,
and there's a lot of people are you know, have
unfortunately a lot of economic ties with China, whether it's
you know, individuals, companies, and China has been able to
you know, leverage that you know, those economic ties to
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entrop them into working you know, in China's benefits well.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Even the Speaker of the Senate, Mitch McConnell, his wife
family was big in transportation in China. So it's not
just the Democrats, it's both parties. So they have ingrained
themselves into positions here in America. But the Department of
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Justice has turned and says, no, no, no, We're not
going to investigate China for any espionage. Now. I don't
quite understand that, because they are our number one prime
enemy right now. They want to destroy, they want to
become number one. They want to destroy the United States,
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And we should be working with people like yourself who
are fighting the Chinese for your own freedom and when
they are destroying and committing genocide, we have to be
on the side of right in my opinion. So are
you having are you having any Are you having anybody
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in Congress that you can think of? Are the Senate?
Who is are the House either one who's standing up
and say we've got to who's fighting for the wakers?
You got anybody doing that in our ca? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
There there's many great you know, uh politicians, senators and
congressmen on you know, both sides of the aisle.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
I think they are right.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
One of the the one of the main issues, you know,
the only one of the very few issues that is
able to unite members of Congress together. But in terms
of like the overall uh you know, political aspect of
this issue, I would have to say that the Republicans
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are a bit more uh you know, supportive, but.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
You do have some Democrats also that it seems like
human rights should uh uh should trump all of the
uh other issues in this world. Human rights should be
the most important issue for everybody in the world.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Absolutely, I mean.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
It should transcend politics.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Absolutely. You should not be engaging in business ties or
political ties with regimes that don't respect, you know, have
no respect for human rights, because if they're uh, if
we do that, you know, we're only contributing to those
human rights violations. We're contributing to the suffering of you know,
innocent people across the world.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
If they'll turn on the leakers, they'll turn on us,
they'll turn on anybody. We have to realize that you
can't trust anybody who fixed on somebody like like they
have done. You really can't trust them. What to do
that we should have learned our lesson absolutely now are
what is your ultimate goal? How I know your ultimate
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goal is freedom for your country. And how is it
looking to you right now?
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Well?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Uh, what you know again, seeing what's going on in
Ukraine right now, they are you know, a bit hopeful
that if not governments, you know, the people across the world,
there are freedom loving people that you know across the world,
not just here in the United States, but all across
the world that uh would be willing to stand with
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us and against China, against the atrocities that China's committing,
and be supportive of our you know, struggle for freedom
and independence.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
David can stand up against Goliath. You're a David, but
you can stand up against Goliath as they have done
in the Ukraine. The only thing is nobody has offered
you much help pathday. They haven't said you a lot
of weapons or anything to fight.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Uh No, I mean we haven't you know, giving any.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Type of help, you know, whether it's politically, economically, or
even militarily in that aspect.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Is there now be an American here? What would you
like to see our country do? What would you like
to see us do? I would like to see us
put at the very minimum, US put tariffs on some
of the Chinese operations. I'd also like to see US
institute an anti espionage program so that we can find
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out exactly how deep China has got its inroyds, inroads
into politicians, into businesses and other things here, how how
much scientific information and others that they are stealing. We
know what's going on. We need to we need to
fight a war. We're fighting a war with one hand
behind our pack. China's fighting a war on so many
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different levels. We need to know that. We need to
get involved with this. I mean, otherwise we're we're going
to be into a fighting war and we're going to
be losing it if we don't stand up right now.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Absolutely, I would have to definitely agree with you on
these points. The United States can do so much. I mean, one,
you know, is just to institute, as you said, you know,
the counter intelligence program to you know, uh, because.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
They're bringing they're bringing the war here. They are bringing
the war here on our soil. That's that's the point
that you're making, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Absolutely? I mean, they have essentially infiltrated all all levels
of society, of economics and even you know, suddenly even
even politics, you know, politicians.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
And that very just pay them off. But you've got
all these companies that want to do business with them.
You've got the entertainment companies, You've got most of Hollywood.
It got so bad that even a pass in top
Gun that had Taiwan, uh patch and tom Cruise War,
(33:05):
they they airbrush that out and put something else on there.
I mean, they are telling Hollywood and others you can't
do certain films because they control it. This is how
bad is God? Isn't it?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Absolutely so that there needs to be a top down
you know, uh, you know, counterintelligence program that needs to
be launched to deal with this, uh, this threat. The
US government also needs to you know, treat East Turkestan
on part with Tibet, you know, give all absolutely the
same recognition that has been given to Tibet, the same
(33:40):
type of support that has been given to Tibet.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Mm hmm, well absolutely. Now. One of the things that
I'm noticing is that it is not anti We're not
anti Chinese people, but we're anti the government. The government
wants to just you don't take kindly if somebody wants
to destroy you. But the people, the Chinese people are
(34:06):
basically good.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I think, yes, many of the Chinese people, you know,
or are victims of the Chinese government themselves. Many of them,
you know, they've been extremely brainwashed by the Chinese government,
you know, just like you know how the Nazis you know,
brainwashed the German population. It's not that many of the
(34:29):
Germans at that time were evil. Now, it's just that
the the propaganda and the you know, in doctor nation
campaigns initiated by the Nazis, and the fear you know
of you know, even speaking out against the Nazis, uh.
You know that that that they imposed on the German
people resulted in many of the German people just you know,
(34:51):
sadly remaining silent just to save their own lives.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
We're gaining the same thing here with the censorship, the
exact same thing on COVID, on other things where we
can't discuss this, that or the other. Otherwise. They cancel
you on YouTube, they cancel you on various things. Have
you had that happen to you?
Speaker 2 (35:12):
I mean, you know, there there has been. I can't
say that there has been you know, censorship by like,
you know, anyone forcing me to not say anything. But
the fact that you know, like this is social media,
like for example, like on Facebook, many of our posts,
(35:34):
you know, we can't even you know, create advertisements, while
the Chinese government can you know, you.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Know, that's where I was going. Yeah, we're seeing that
on so many things right here. So it's a corporate
government censorship that's occurring on anything that they don't want out,
and that includes relationship with China, or includes anything medical
that you put out. You don't have to believe everything
that's on there, but they'll let a lot of these
(36:02):
desperts but whatever they want to. Uh, that's what gets me. Yes,
And now we've got TikTok that came in which is
controlled by China.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yes, and TikTok is just another way the Chinese government
is you know, covertly. You know, it's not even covert,
I mean overtly, cal.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
It's maasically overt. It's definitely overt.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Right, So this is these are all they're there are
you know, multiple problems that needs to be addressed. It
just seems that there is really a will or intincted
by the government address these issues that the coment.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
We've got addressed will be Russia.
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Speaker 3 (37:56):
Your politicians about the plight of the wagers. It's not
just their plight, but it's our plight. This is one
point where we really have to take this seriously because
it's not only affecting them, but it's affecting us here
in the United States. If you don't care about the weakers,
that doesn't matter. You've got to care about humanity. We're
(38:16):
all one humanity, and you have to care and you
really have to see what's going on. It's going to
be the weakers today, it can be you tomorrow. This
is what we need to understand. Do it on your
own self preservation or do it to help those who
need to help right now because the whole civilization going
back six thousand years is up for genocide, up to
(38:41):
be destroyed. This should never be allowed in this world.
Did we learn nothing from World War two? Nothing from
World War two? I mean this is the same thing again,
only on a larger scale. Am I overstating that, mister
Prime Minister?
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Not at all?
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Not at all.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I would have to say, you know, there needs to
see war done. I mean, the more can be said
about this. It's like we have to start somewhere.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
We've got got to get people who are more powerful
than us to come in and do things. We've got
to get people in the Congress of where We've got
to get politicians aware that this is something that we
that people care about. The first thing we have to
do is show that the people care. That's the first
(39:36):
thing we have to do. If they feel like this
is an important issue to us, they'll follow through with
it because they're most concerned with their seats. So we've
got to tell people we care. I think that's the
first thing that we as the Americans can do here.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yes, this is why, you know, the very first thing
we need to do is just spread more awareness because
right the people aware, then the governments will be inclined
to you know, act.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
We've got to wake up the people. This can be
done through the churches. That could also be done by
contacting your people. A lot of every House member is
up for election this year. You need to talk to them.
They're approachable and when they're running for office, they'll listen
to you. May not agree with you, but it doesn't matter.
They'll listen to you. At least put a bug in
(40:26):
their ear. Talk to them because they're out trying the campaign.
They want every vote they can get. This is the
time to do it, in my opinion, right now, when
they're running for office.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Absolutely, and we would plan on you know, reaching out
to you know, as you said, to the various US
you know kind of that are running for office, and
hopefully we can you know, get them to you know,
take some strong actions.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
It's not that we will push one issue, but this
is a prime issue that has to be brought up
because this is about our survival, not only the weaker survival,
but we are tied in with the weaker survival. We
have to realize this, if we realize it's in our
interests that the weakers survive and that we stop China.
(41:15):
If they're not stopped now, where will they stop. I
don't know where they'll stop us, Lee, I have no
idea where they're going to stop if we don't stop
them now.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Yeah, this has shown I mean so, no dictator and
no you know, evil regime is going to stop by itself.
It's up to you know, the good people of the
world to you know, work together to stop them. And
that's the only way they're going to stop them.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
And the idea that they can throw money around. The
money is money, it doesn't matter. Human life is human life.
That's a whole difference subject. We've got to look instead
of look at the money that they throw. You can't
sell out for thirty shekels. You can't do it. We
can't not do that. We have to be better than that.
If we're going to be a country to be looked
(42:05):
up to, we've got to prove ourselves to be better.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
In my opinion, absolutely, I want.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
To thank you for being on and I hope and
pray and we need, we all need to pray that
your people will survive, they will be strong. They're fighting
enormous odds with very little help, and we've got to
do something to help in any way we can, even
(42:33):
if it's just talking to our preachers, even if it's
just talking to our representatives. We need to get out
and do that. I hope we will.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I hope so too.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Anything else that you would like to answer.
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and reach out to us if they can, you know,
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church or community centers and so forth.
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for you to go to Sali. I didn't watch any
of the Beijing Olympics. I think it was just putting
their the best face on Beijing that they could. I
(01:09):
don't think it was a very nice face even what
we saw.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Yes, unfortunately the Beijing Olympics. I mean, it should have
not happened, but it happened.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
And you know, the.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
International community was not effective in pushing back against it.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
No, no, and they allowed them to do things like
they were trying to make China look so good and
all of this, and why did they pulling out a
Wiger to light the torch at the beginning. That was
just beyond the pale, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
Yes, I mean that was you know, a simple uh
you know, political statement by China to one state that
you know, the fact that it was a Chinese male
and a weaker woman who was doing this. This is
like a state meant, you know, by the Chinese government
to saying that, what can you do to the international community,
(02:07):
while at the same time to our people, see, you know,
we can parade you like this anytime we in the
international community won't be able to object to Now.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Starting February fifth, nineteen ninety seven, thousands of the Wigers
and other Turkey Turkey peoples of East Turkistan couldn't bear
the oppression anymore and they took to the streets. What
happened on that that was ninety seven, So this is
nothing new that's going on the oppression.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Yes, nineteen ninety seven.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
This we right there were you there at that time
solely I.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Was in East Takistan, not particularly in the part of
East Turkistan where the event occurred. But in nineteen ninety seven,
following the you know, years after following the followed the
Soviet Union, the people of East Turkistan. They began to
you know, push back in peaceful ways, you know, demanding
(03:06):
their right independence, and the Chinese government they executed thirty
East Takistan independence activists, which led to thousands of people,
you know, taking to the streets in February, you know,
just wearing sweathers to clearly show to the world that
you know, they're peaceful, they're unarmed and demand you know,
(03:28):
basic you know, freedoms and into the Chinese occupation and
colonization of East Cirkuistan, and it resulted in a brutal
massacre in which the Chinese government killed hundreds of protesters
and arrested thousands.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
Right now, that wasn't the start of it. That was
just the culmination. People said enough enough at that point.
That's what they were saying. Standing up for human rights.
That's all it was about, wasn't it.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Yes, standing up for human rights and freedom.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Right. Uh, this is and we're supposedly going into uh
Are the fight in the Ukraine is supposedly about human
rights and freedom. But they have just absolutely ignored the
rights of the vigers. Uh. This new administration Biden has
totally ignored it. And they become buddy buddy with China.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Unfortunately, Yes, I mean even yesterday in the Uh, I mean,
I mean he you know, he previously called China the
biggest geopolitical threat to the United States. Uh he you know,
during the elections, I didn't hear.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I didn't hear any of that in the State of
the Union.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
No, no, absolutely not. During the elections, he had stated
that he would stand up against China genotide of the
wagers in the songest terms. But at the State of
the Union. Uh, he only mentioned China twice. Uh, in
no way, you know, anything you know significant he you know,
Uh wasn't It wasn't even you know, calling out China
(05:03):
for what it was doing. He did not even mention
the Wigers or the genocide that's happening. And this, ultimately,
you know, is going to encourage China and only embolden
them to continue.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Now do you expect them to take over Taiwan.
Speaker 4 (05:21):
Given what we are seeing?
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Uh? In Ukraine, the fact that the international community has
shown a lot of support for Ukraine, I think that
might have pushed back. Uh. You know, she's ambitions at
least for the time being too.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
Well versus there's a difference with the Ukraine. They have NATO,
but they really do not have an effective organization UH
to help with Taiwan. And the United States never even
took the lead on the Ukraine. That was done by
Germany and even UH even Switzerland came in on that,
which they never come in on anything. And though so
(06:00):
this was an amalgamation of all the European nations, you
don't have that many nations to support on Taiwan. Hopefully
Japan would come into support because they they are going
to be affected by that. It's going to affect everyone.
So but they couldn't. They couldn't stand up for the
protesters in Hong Kong. They can't stand up for the wigers.
(06:21):
Are we just become a paper tiger as a nation?
Have we no founding of what is right and wrong?
This isn't about right and wrong. It isn't complicated.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yes, I mean, right now, as far as you know Taiwan,
the US has reiterated, you know that it's going to
you know, at least support Taiwan in some levels.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
That would make me feel a lot better. Right if
I was at Taiwan right now, wouldn't it you? Right?
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Absolutely? And then also the seizing things, you know, like
the Communist Party there about to have their you know,
the congressional meeting, you know, top level meeting this fall,
this coming fall. So I doubt that shooting thing is
going to do anything in terms of Taiwan until after
that meeting.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
I thought they would do it right after the Olympics,
but apparently what's happened in the Ukraine has given them pause.
Now the weaker situation, has that improved or gotten worse?
What's the situation with your people?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
The situation in East Turkistan is not at all. There's
no improvements. I mean, things are getting much worse. The
Chinese government is continuing to you know, suppress our basic freedoms,
you know, continue to incarcetrate millions of people in concentration camps,
(07:49):
in prison. And although the UN you know, said that
they would want to go into East Turkistan, the Chinese
government has made it clear that they're not to allow
the UN to uh, you know, conduct any form of investigations.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Now, are they sending their own people in to take
over the properties of the Chinese people, take over the
properties of the wakers, or that's what they're doing, so
that they are displacing them all, not only concentration camps,
but just displacing them where the property, many of the.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Many of the properties, the homes of leaguers, you know,
that have been thrown into the camps and prisons, their businesses,
everything has been you know, auctioned off to Chinese people
by the Chinese government.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
They're settling and you know, every day bringing thousands of
Chinese settlers into East Turkistan, you know, to quote develop
and modernize East Turkistan, which is essentially colonization, while forcing
orders and other Turkic peoples to uh, you know, work
as slave labor and you know, relocating them, transferring hundreds
(08:59):
of thousands of millions of them into you know, Chinese
provinces where they're sent to you know, slave labor factories
and prisons.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
You've got pictures of all that, which is incredible. Now,
when you're talking about what's happening in East circumstance is
basically not basically it is it's genocide, genocide against your people.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Yes, it's been recognized as genocide by the US government,
by the parliaments of about ten ten countries across the world.
Every major human rights organization has has called it a genocide.
The entire world knows that it's the genocide, but because
of the political and economic power that Chinda has, many
(09:47):
governments are reluctant to do anything or to even you know,
acknowledge it.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
What would you like to see the United States do?
How can we help the people?
Speaker 2 (09:57):
Well, one of the things, you know, like what's happening
right now with the Ukrainian conflict, for example, because of
a lot of international uh pressure, if if if you know,
if a quarter, if even of the attention that was
given to Ukraine was given to you know, East Turkistan,
that would make a significant king for example, the ICC
(10:18):
is going to be you know, investigating you know, rush
for the Ukrainian war. This is something that we have
been trying to get the ICC to do, and the
US government can you know, uh, you know, easily call
on the ic C and call on other governments to
call on the ic C to investigate China for the
(10:40):
genocide that it is undertaking it East Turkistan. In addition
to that, despite China being you know, a member of
the UN Security Council, the United States, as a member
of the Security Council, can also bring the East Turkistan
issue to the agenda of the UN Security councilor you know,
despite whether its China vetos that or not, it's still
(11:03):
going to be brought. And that in itself will you know,
show serious the US is about this issue, and it
will you know, you know, give hope for not only
our people, but it will encourage other governments across the
world to come out and appost China as genocide.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Now President Trump put sanctions on China threatened even more.
But under the current administration, there are no sanctions being
threatened or anything with sanctions. Are there sanctions that could
be brought against China to not only bring not only
would it stop a lot of what's going on there,
but it also would bring a lot of jobs back
(11:43):
to this country.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Absolutely. You know, right now they're talking about they've sanctioned
Russia for the Ukrainian War, for the invasion of Ukraine,
and China is the one who's economically backing Russia and
ensuring that, you know, despite these sanctions, Russia is able
to continue its occupation, invasion and occupation efforts in Ukin.
(12:08):
So the United States and the Free World needs to
sanctioned China, you know, economically, they need to you know,
for example, many Russian diplomats have been kicked out of
the United States out of what's right. The same thing
needs to happen to Chinese diplomats.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
Now, let me ask you a question. A lot of
these companies that are supporting China, it seems to be
that they're more concerned about making money than they are
doing the right thing. And you've had places give you
an example, the NBA, the National Basketball Association, has certainly
(12:47):
been pro China because they're making so much money off
of it. But you've got a gentleman who came over
whose last name is Freedom, who's kicked out of the
NBA because he told about what was happening. And he's
from Turkey, and he's telling about what happened, took the
last name of freedom. He believes in freedom. He's standing
up for for the rights of the wigers, He's standing
(13:08):
up for the rights of a lot of people, and
he's being kicked out for just standing up for that.
This is not right on every level. I know you
know who I'm talking about, right.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, again, the NBA, whether it's NBA, whether it's Disney,
whether it's you know, other companies like Cocola right, right,
you know, even you know Tesla, you know they're all.
Speaker 3 (13:35):
Apple, Apple computer of course, right and.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
All you know count howing China and have to make
a few.
Speaker 3 (13:42):
Bucks will be run back.
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Speaker 3 (14:48):
Today there was a pipeline going from Israel and from
Jordan directly to Turkey, and the Bide administration canceled it.
They can't cancel the pipeline coming from KNASA to the
United States. They allow the pipeline from Russia into Germany.
(15:11):
This is insanity. What can be done with what's going
on with China and with a weaker situation. We know
it's there, we know it's there. It's virtually the same
as happening with Nazi Germany. We know exactly what's happening.
It's a genocide. What can we the people do here?
(15:32):
What do you think can be done, mister Prime Minister.
Speaker 2 (15:38):
Of the people? I mean, the basic, the most simplest
thing that we can do is to raise awareness through
you know, social media, to any through any means, you know,
like using social media, organizing events that are local you know, churches,
riety centers, writing to our members of Congress or elected officials,
(15:58):
urging them to you know, speak out, you know, boycotting
Chinese goods and services, and you know, uh, you know,
calling on the government, the US government to take more
meaningful action the you know, with the the whole Ukrainian
situation as we as we are seeing, you know, it
was the governments are only beginning to act after the people,
(16:21):
you know, across the world begin to pressure.
Speaker 3 (16:23):
Them to act.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
And so you know, we have to use the power
of the people to pressure our governments to act against China.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Well, one thing, there are a lot of Ukrainians in
this country, and so they feel more of a tie.
There are not a whole lot of Wiggers in this country,
so they don't feel as much of a tie with that.
But the fact of the matter is these companies, the
greed of Nike, the greed of Apple, uh, a lot
of it is doing with greed. They don't want to
(16:53):
offend China because if they do, they want it's a
huge market. That's another thing they're talking about when I'm
understanding that China is not as strong as a lot
of people think. Even the Chinese Communist Party is only
like ten percent of the population in China. The Chinese
people are not even backing it. Have you heard the
(17:14):
same thing. I'm sure you have.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Well, I mean, like the Chinese government initially with the
Ukrainian situation, they've you know, they've been backing Russia openly
and then now with the international community supporting Ukraine, they're
beginning to know, you know, pull back a little bit.
But they still have they still have refused to call
(17:39):
it an invasion. They still have you know, they're still
blaming the United States and the West for you know,
the Russians invasion of Ukraine.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
Right, which is insanity, absolutely insanity. I mean that's crazy. Now.
One of the things that you've written about than you've
talked about are we've we've heard about is d J
shutting down China focused anti esproonage programs. China initiative is
(18:09):
being cast aside because of perceptions it's unfairly paid Chinese
Americans and US residents of Chinese origin. Is this loyal?
But the Chinese Justice Department was focused on countering Chinese espionage.
There's a lot of Chinese espionage going on in this country,
isn't there?
Speaker 2 (18:30):
Unfortunately there is. I mean the Chinese government, you know,
over the past couple of decades, they've been heavily invested,
you know, investing in you know, trying to infiltrate you know, organizations,
governments and even you know, intelligence agencies across the world.
We definitely see this in the case of you know,
the East Takistan you know, uh and Easternkistanese slash weaker
(18:54):
you know, diaspora community and organizations, they have been you
know hindling our our efforts to you know, advocate for
on on behalf of these circustan So this is an
issue that needs to be you know, addressed at the
you know, highest levels, not just by the United States,
by but by all you know, governments.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
In the free world. So if you got them, are
they worried about what you're doing? Obviously they are.
Speaker 2 (19:23):
Absolutely. I mean I think you know, constant you know,
surveillance threats. You know, they even you know, have been
waiting you know, uh you know uh, you know, like
psychological and you know political forfare can be you know,
trying to uh you know, demonize it. Of course.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
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Speaker 3 (20:53):
Sleep Ad Deer is the Prime Minister of Eath, Pakistan
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have to is click on. There's a person, gentleman. Too
nice a word to use, uh chath hella, you know
(21:18):
how to pronounce it? Tame Plopata, Yeah, okay, tell about him?
This is this is really incredible.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Well, tamath Palapatia I mean he's a billionaire investor and
also you know, you know, fund manager and uh you know,
co owner of a of an NBA team.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
I mean he uh, there's a guy who you very
seldom hearback because he travels under the radar. But he
started coming out he's not a nice person, is he?
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yes? Uh, you know, you know a podcast with other
you know, people like himself. You know when they ask
you know, when he was asked coming on the Weaker
situation about the genocide, he said, you know, nobody cares
about the Weakers. Then he said, you know that's not I.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Remember when he said that nobody cares, right, I mean
what kind of person says something like that.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I mean it's greedy people. That's that's the type of
people that you know state things like that.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
I mean, you you this is a civilization. Let's be
honest about the civilization. The Wiger civilization goes back what
three four thousand years? I mean they've been there. I mean, uh,
maybe longer.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
You know, historical data, archeology and records. Weakers you know, uh,
they're estimated to go back over six thousand years.
Speaker 3 (22:50):
Wow. Wow, And that was you were Viggers went, uh
to the west and form Turkey. The Turkey Shu people
are basically as ties East Turkstead because they basically are
the viguers who went to the west starting Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
Yeah, they were, you know, part of the times some
of the times that you know ended up going westward
following the Mongol you know, conquest of Central Asia.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
And so when you're talking about that land, you're talking
about the land which has been years for six thousand
years and people lived peacefully for most of that time there.
And the Chinese they feel like it's due to the
they have it because they just won't take it basically,
(23:41):
and because your people, you didn't have a lot of
weapons or anything, did you. No.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Unfortunately, we were you know, caught in between you know,
various empires and you know, the British Empire and the
Soviet Union and China, and ultimately rise we became you know,
you know, ponds and the subtle for you know, in
this great power competition, and ultimately the Soviet Union and
(24:07):
Russia came together, I mean, the Soviet Union and China
came together to invade and occupy each took us time.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
Your your people are basically freedom loving farmers and that
type of thing as I can conceive it. Am I
am I right or wrong? Uh?
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I mean historically we've you know, been farmers, not all
us farmers, but you know most of them farmers. Also,
you know, craftsmen, uh.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Right, And you weren't you weren't warriors or anything like that.
You took a live and let live situation.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Well, I mean we we did have elements periodically that
we were you know, uh were warriors, but most of
the time we were just you know, businessmen, you know, right,
and getting the track.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
You know, you didn't want to China, but China chin
to be China, you will be a circumensine. And you
were living comfortably happily that way until they decided. Until
what they decided they found minerals and things like that.
Where where you are was that while the keys.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
Well, China took over East Turkistan is there's multiple reasons.
I mean, the strategic location of East Turkistan history. We've
been a bridge between east and west. We've been the
cornerstone or the center of this ancient Silk road. Also
East Turkestan, you know, is rich and natural and general resource.
Speaker 3 (25:35):
That's where I was going. You things and you're also
a crossroads. So you had those two things making you
strategically important to China.
Speaker 2 (25:47):
Especially now, yes, given that you know it's the cost
of China's you know ambitious you know Belton Road initiative,
which is, you know a plan for China to achieve
you know, global domination.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Now, when you're talking about China and what they're doing
in this country, you're talking about espionage and they have
the Chinese cultural centers at every college and university. They
are buying up property next to our bases here. They
are infiltrating our political system as we can see. Swallwell's
(26:26):
just an example. You've got other examples. The Biden family
where they have been they've sold out to China. There's
no other way to put it, is there that they've
sold out.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
I mean it's it's much more you know complex than that.
There seems to be a lot of you know, moving parts,
and there's a lot of people are you know, have
unfortunately a lot of economic ties with China, whether it's
you know, individuals, companies, and China has been able to
you know, leverage that you know, those economic ties to
(27:01):
entrop them into working you know, in China's benefits well.
Speaker 3 (27:06):
Even the Speaker of the Senate, Mitch McConnell, his wife
family was big in transportation in China. So it's not
just the Democrats, it's both parties. So they have ingrained
themselves into positions here in America. But the Department of
(27:26):
Justice has turned and says, no, no, no, We're not
going to investigate China for any espionage. Now. I don't
quite understand that, because they are our number one prime
enemy right now. They want to destroy, they want to
become number one. They want to destroy the United States,
(27:48):
And we should be working with people like yourself who
are fighting the Chinese for your own freedom and when
they are destroying and committing genocide, we have to be
on the side of right in my opinion. So are
you having are you having any Are you having anybody
(28:09):
in Congress that you can think of? Are the Senate?
Who is are the House either one who's standing up
and say we've got to who's fighting for the wakers?
You got anybody doing that in our ca? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (28:21):
There there's many great you know, uh politicians, senators and
congressmen on you know, both sides of the aisle.
Speaker 3 (28:29):
I think they are right.
Speaker 2 (28:31):
One of the the one of the main issues, you know,
the only one of the very few issues that is
able to unite members of Congress together. But in terms
of like the overall uh you know, political aspect of
this issue, I would have to say that the Republicans
(28:51):
are a bit more uh you know, supportive, but.
Speaker 3 (28:57):
You do have some Democrats also that it seems like
human rights should uh uh should trump all of the
uh other issues in this world. Human rights should be
the most important issue for everybody in the world.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Absolutely, I mean.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
It should transcend politics.
Speaker 2 (29:23):
Absolutely. You should not be engaging in business ties or
political ties with regimes that don't respect, you know, have
no respect for human rights, because if they're uh, if
we do that, you know, we're only contributing to those
human rights violations. We're contributing to the suffering of you know,
innocent people across the world.
Speaker 3 (29:43):
If they'll turn on the leakers, they'll turn on us,
they'll turn on anybody. We have to realize that you
can't trust anybody who fixed on somebody like like they
have done. You really can't trust them. What to do
that we should have learned our lesson absolutely now are
what is your ultimate goal? How I know your ultimate
(30:05):
goal is freedom for your country. And how is it
looking to you right now?
Speaker 4 (30:11):
Well?
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Uh, what you know again, seeing what's going on in
Ukraine right now, they are you know, a bit hopeful
that if not governments, you know, the people across the world,
there are freedom loving people that you know across the world,
not just here in the United States, but all across
the world that uh would be willing to stand with
(30:33):
us and against China, against the atrocities that China's committing,
and be supportive of our you know, struggle for freedom
and independence.
Speaker 3 (30:43):
David can stand up against Goliath. You're a David, but
you can stand up against Goliath as they have done
in the Ukraine. The only thing is nobody has offered
you much help pathday. They haven't said you a lot
of weapons or anything to fight.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Uh No, I mean we haven't you know, giving any.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
Type of help, you know, whether it's politically, economically, or
even militarily in that aspect.
Speaker 3 (31:10):
Is there now be an American here? What would you
like to see our country do? What would you like
to see us do? I would like to see us
put at the very minimum, US put tariffs on some
of the Chinese operations. I'd also like to see US
institute an anti espionage program so that we can find
(31:34):
out exactly how deep China has got its inroyds, inroads
into politicians, into businesses and other things here, how how
much scientific information and others that they are stealing. We
know what's going on. We need to we need to
fight a war. We're fighting a war with one hand
behind our pack. China's fighting a war on so many
(31:56):
different levels. We need to know that. We need to
get involved with this. I mean, otherwise we're we're going
to be into a fighting war and we're going to
be losing it if we don't stand up right now.
Speaker 2 (32:09):
Absolutely, I would have to definitely agree with you on
these points. The United States can do so much. I mean, one,
you know, is just to institute, as you said, you know,
the counter intelligence program to you know, uh, because.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
They're bringing they're bringing the war here. They are bringing
the war here on our soil. That's that's the point
that you're making, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Absolutely? I mean, they have essentially infiltrated all all levels
of society, of economics and even you know, suddenly even
even politics, you know, politicians.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
And that very just pay them off. But you've got
all these companies that want to do business with them.
You've got the entertainment companies, You've got most of Hollywood.
It got so bad that even a pass in top
Gun that had Taiwan, uh patch and tom Cruise War,
(33:05):
they they airbrush that out and put something else on there.
I mean, they are telling Hollywood and others you can't
do certain films because they control it. This is how
bad is God? Isn't it?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
Absolutely so that there needs to be a top down
you know, uh, you know, counterintelligence program that needs to
be launched to deal with this, uh, this threat. The
US government also needs to you know, treat East Turkestan
on part with Tibet, you know, give all absolutely the
same recognition that has been given to Tibet, the same
(33:40):
type of support that has been given to Tibet.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
Mm hmm, well absolutely. Now. One of the things that
I'm noticing is that it is not anti We're not
anti Chinese people, but we're anti the government. The government
wants to just you don't take kindly if somebody wants
to destroy you. But the people, the Chinese people are
(34:06):
basically good.
Speaker 2 (34:07):
I think, yes, many of the Chinese people, you know,
or are victims of the Chinese government themselves. Many of them,
you know, they've been extremely brainwashed by the Chinese government,
you know, just like you know how the Nazis you know,
brainwashed the German population. It's not that many of the
(34:29):
Germans at that time were evil. Now, it's just that
the the propaganda and the you know, in doctor nation
campaigns initiated by the Nazis, and the fear you know
of you know, even speaking out against the Nazis, uh.
You know that that that they imposed on the German
people resulted in many of the German people just you know,
(34:51):
sadly remaining silent just to save their own lives.
Speaker 3 (34:54):
We're gaining the same thing here with the censorship, the
exact same thing on COVID, on other things where we
can't discuss this, that or the other. Otherwise. They cancel
you on YouTube, they cancel you on various things. Have
you had that happen to you?
Speaker 2 (35:12):
I mean, you know, there there has been. I can't
say that there has been you know, censorship by like,
you know, anyone forcing me to not say anything. But
the fact that you know, like this is social media,
like for example, like on Facebook, many of our posts,
(35:34):
you know, we can't even you know, create advertisements, while
the Chinese government can you know, you.
Speaker 3 (35:40):
Know, that's where I was going. Yeah, we're seeing that
on so many things right here. So it's a corporate
government censorship that's occurring on anything that they don't want out,
and that includes relationship with China, or includes anything medical
that you put out. You don't have to believe everything
that's on there, but they'll let a lot of these
(36:02):
desperts but whatever they want to. Uh, that's what gets me. Yes,
And now we've got TikTok that came in which is
controlled by China.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
Yes, and TikTok is just another way the Chinese government
is you know, covertly. You know, it's not even covert,
I mean overtly, cal.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
It's maasically overt. It's definitely overt.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
Right, So this is these are all they're there are
you know, multiple problems that needs to be addressed. It
just seems that there is really a will or intincted
by the government address these issues that the coment.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
We've got addressed will be Russia.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
The Biden administration is quickly moving to implement the liberal
fantasy of socialist spending. After spending a two point one
trillion dollars stimulus, the President and the Democratic led Congress
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with your friends, talk in your church, and talk to people.
Speaker 3 (37:56):
Your politicians about the plight of the wagers. It's not
just their plight, but it's our plight. This is one
point where we really have to take this seriously because
it's not only affecting them, but it's affecting us here
in the United States. If you don't care about the weakers,
that doesn't matter. You've got to care about humanity. We're
(38:16):
all one humanity, and you have to care and you
really have to see what's going on. It's going to
be the weakers today, it can be you tomorrow. This
is what we need to understand. Do it on your
own self preservation or do it to help those who
need to help right now because the whole civilization going
back six thousand years is up for genocide, up to
(38:41):
be destroyed. This should never be allowed in this world.
Did we learn nothing from World War two? Nothing from
World War two? I mean this is the same thing again,
only on a larger scale. Am I overstating that, mister
Prime Minister?
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Not at all?
Speaker 3 (39:03):
Not at all.
Speaker 2 (39:04):
I would have to say, you know, there needs to
see war done. I mean, the more can be said
about this. It's like we have to start somewhere.
Speaker 3 (39:15):
We've got got to get people who are more powerful
than us to come in and do things. We've got
to get people in the Congress of where We've got
to get politicians aware that this is something that we
that people care about. The first thing we have to
do is show that the people care. That's the first
(39:36):
thing we have to do. If they feel like this
is an important issue to us, they'll follow through with
it because they're most concerned with their seats. So we've
got to tell people we care. I think that's the
first thing that we as the Americans can do here.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yes, this is why, you know, the very first thing
we need to do is just spread more awareness because
right the people aware, then the governments will be inclined
to you know, act.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
We've got to wake up the people. This can be
done through the churches. That could also be done by
contacting your people. A lot of every House member is
up for election this year. You need to talk to them.
They're approachable and when they're running for office, they'll listen
to you. May not agree with you, but it doesn't matter.
They'll listen to you. At least put a bug in
(40:26):
their ear. Talk to them because they're out trying the campaign.
They want every vote they can get. This is the
time to do it, in my opinion, right now, when
they're running for office.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
Absolutely, and we would plan on you know, reaching out
to you know, as you said, to the various US
you know kind of that are running for office, and
hopefully we can you know, get them to you know,
take some strong actions.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
It's not that we will push one issue, but this
is a prime issue that has to be brought up
because this is about our survival, not only the weaker survival,
but we are tied in with the weaker survival. We
have to realize this, if we realize it's in our
interests that the weakers survive and that we stop China.
(41:15):
If they're not stopped now, where will they stop. I
don't know where they'll stop us, Lee, I have no
idea where they're going to stop if we don't stop
them now.
Speaker 2 (41:25):
Yeah, this has shown I mean so, no dictator and
no you know, evil regime is going to stop by itself.
It's up to you know, the good people of the
world to you know, work together to stop them. And
that's the only way they're going to stop them.
Speaker 3 (41:43):
And the idea that they can throw money around. The
money is money, it doesn't matter. Human life is human life.
That's a whole difference subject. We've got to look instead
of look at the money that they throw. You can't
sell out for thirty shekels. You can't do it. We
can't not do that. We have to be better than that.
If we're going to be a country to be looked
(42:05):
up to, we've got to prove ourselves to be better.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
In my opinion, absolutely, I want.
Speaker 3 (42:13):
To thank you for being on and I hope and
pray and we need, we all need to pray that
your people will survive, they will be strong. They're fighting
enormous odds with very little help, and we've got to
do something to help in any way we can, even
(42:33):
if it's just talking to our preachers, even if it's
just talking to our representatives. We need to get out
and do that. I hope we will.
Speaker 2 (42:42):
I hope so too.
Speaker 3 (42:44):
Anything else that you would like to answer.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
I mean again, if anyone that's if they could, you know,
to follow us on social media, whether it's not et
Exile Gum or ech Awakening on Twitter, Facebook, et cetera,
and you know, to keep updated about what's going on
in Eastern Ustan, and you know, to spread more awareness
and reach out to us if they can, you know,
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if they want to, you know, organize you know, you know,
eleven hours or you know, speaking engagements that their local
church or community centers and so forth.
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