September 20, 2024 • 43 mins
Tony Lyons - ENCORE- Robert F Kennedy Jr’s The Real Anthony Fauci
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Very happy to have my guest, Tony Lyons. He's president
publisher of Skyhorse Publishing, a company has over ten thousand
books in print. Tony has fought the censorship for the
censorship of faught against the censorship, I'm sorry of numerous books,
including books by Woody Allen, Alan Dercherwitz, Biography of Philip Roth,
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and Robert F. Kennedy Juniors, The Real Anthony Fauci, the
best selling and most censored book in America, and the
just released vax un Vaxed. Let the Science Speak, also
by Robert F. Kennedy Skyhorse Publishing dot Com. Tony wrote
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is an opening for the Robert F. Kennedy book, The
Incredible Robert F. Kennedy book best selling, which is great
The Real Anthony Falci. Complex scientific and moral problems are
not resolved through censorship of descending opinions, deleting contexts from
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the Internet, and he goes on to say or defaming
scientists and authors who present information challenging to those in power.
Censorship leads instead to greater distrust of both government and institutions.
He had Robert Kennedy who was testifying for Congress, and
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they wanted to censor him. This is incredible. Censorship will
destroy this country. And we're all talk a lot about that.
That's amazing. Isn't it the censorship most censored book in history?
Isn't it?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Oh? Yes, definitely.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I mean I don't think that there's ever been a
book that was censored in so many different ways.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
So most of the censorship tools that are available now
were never heard.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Before, you know, so things like on Amazon, the book
got twenty three thousand reviews, and almost every one of
those reviews was a five star review. But what happened
was Amazon took down the lights for all the five stars,
so the negative ones show up at the top. And
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the problem is most people just read the first view,
they don't dig down too low, so they've been able
to make it look like there are a lot of
people who don't like the book, even though ninety five
percent of.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
The people who bought it gave it a five star.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Well, doctors are reading it. I went to my own
doctor and on his waiting table out in front where
patients sis, he had a copy of the real Anthony Fauci.
That's a good thing to see, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Yeah, they're definitely trying to make it look like you know,
it's a it's a fringed kind of book, but it's
a book that's you know, it has blurbs from doctors, lawyers,
and scientists. You know, it's got a Nobel Prize winning
scientist giving it a blurb. So you know, this is
not a marginal book. This is a seminal book. It's
got two and ninety four citations. You know, it's it's
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a book that should have led to an investigation by
places like the New York Times and the Washington Posts
that they should, you know, get out there and do
their jobs when a serious person who worked on this book,
you know, seven days a week for nine months, claims
corruption at the highest levels of government and financial entanglements
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that lead our government, the FDA, the CDC to be
protecting you know, big pharmaceutical companies at the expense of
public health.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
So they're supposed to be working for us, and the
newspapers are supposed to demand that they're honest and investigate corruption,
and so what they did instead was they ran, you know,
something like a dozen hit pieces against Robert F.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Kennedy Jr. At the same time that the book came out.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
So they just worked tirelessly to vilify him and to
try to discredit him, and didn't mention at all the
claims of corruption in governments. So when you see that,
you just see that we're living in a kind of
an oligarchy and we're not aware of it. That most
people are just not aware of what's going on. And
that's why these kinds of books are so important, because
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there's a whole narrative that is, you know, shut down
by the most powerful people, the most powerful corporations, and
the most powerful you know, government agencies.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
You can't go to the mainstream media. They're bought and
paid for. Most of the ads you see on the
mainstream media or what they're for drug companies and the
drug companies who want to keep this out, they want
to keep it away. Companies like Pfizer, how much did
they make? How many billions? People like Bill Gates making billions?
Officer Vaccine. You said, we published authors on many sides
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of controversy. That's what you do because as best publishing
is a town square lets everyone be heard, and let's
everyone else listen if they choose to. Alan Durschwitz said,
always learn why I reader hear Bobby's take. How principled
and careful Bobby is an author, How painstaking they of
his research. You didn't have to do a lot of
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fact checking. You want fact check, let them fact check
this because Bobby Kennedy's telling the truth in this book.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
And you know, the point is that the book was
just incredibly well fact checked.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
So there was a whole team of people reading it.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I mean, we had twenty or thirty people read it
when it was done.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
But in you know, in the.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Process of putting it together, Bobby Kennedy had dozens of people,
experts in each area look at it because he just
wanted to be sure that it was unimpeachable. You know
that that nobody could come back and find something that
wasn't proven well by the citations in the book.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Oh, if they had found anything, you all will have
been crucified. They didn't find a thing because what he
told was the truth.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
And if you know, if they have a better argument,
they should make it. And if they think that he
got it wrong, they should, you know, show where he
got it wrong. And if doctor Fauci believes that he
really represents science and that you know, nobody is allowed
to disagree with him, he should get on television with
Bobby Kennedy and debate some of these issues. So, you know,
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censorship is sort of a tool of people who are
weak in the sense that they don't have an argument
that they believe in and that there just then.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
They also will say that science is settled, like Fauci said,
he is science. Where do you go from there? But
he's destroyed science, He's destroyed medicine. So much in this
country has been destroyed because they believed Anthony Fauci, the mask,
the distances, the whole thing, the fact that if you
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had COVID at one time, that's the best protection you
could get. No, he didn't allow that. I mean, this
is just one lie on top of another, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
It definitely is.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
And you know, you see a book like our book
by doctor Pierre Corey called the War on Ibermectin, and
you get sort of a microcosm of what was happening
on such a large scale that they were just attacking
every kind of treatment because they did not care about
helping people. They just cared about making money.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
They wanted to promote. They wanted to promote romdisappear, which
was very expensive and tore up your kid, as opposed
to ivermexan and hydroxychloric when they both worked. I had
a friend and I talked, just talked with a person
has another friend of his who took the ivermectin, and
immediately you can feel results taken for the five days
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that it's over with. It's cheap, it's not patented, it's
been around forever. They don't want it.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
That's yeah, that's the problem with it is that there's
no money that a big pharmaceutical company can make on
a generic drug. So you take you know, one course
of ivermectin. You know, the pills cost thirty cents each
or something like that, right, and so you know, versus
things that that you can just milk the public for
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that you can just you know, and they don't really
care whether it works or not. You know, they don't
they don't care whether it's actually helping people. They just
care that they can get away with it, that they're
protected from liability, and that they can force it onto
the American public.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Not only that, but nobody talks about out how you
should be taking vitamin D three, How you should be
out in the sunlight, not keeping inside the house. When
you're in the sunlight, you're getting D three, that's very valuable.
How you should not take ibuprofen because it formed the
receptor sites. How children children do not have receptor sites
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form most of them. And Germany, the number of patients
there children, None of them died with COVID. Children very few.
I mean, at point oh one percent if that the
die of COVID, it was almost negligible number who died.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Yeah, So the only reason that they wanted to give
it to children, from what I can tell and from
what I've heard, is that it was just another very
large market.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
So it was an assault on children. You know that.
Obviously children could have gone to.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
School like they did in Sweden, like they did in
so many other countries, And if they'd gone to school,
you wouldn't have seen the incredible spike in suicide rates,
incredible spike in learning disabilities, you know, the incredible spike
in social issues, you know, all kinds of things. By
any measure, children really suffered during COVID. Now four children
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suffered more than than wealthy children for obvious reasons, like
they didn't have access to good computers, so they lost
two or three years at a pivotal developmental stage. And
you know, that just shows such an incredible lack of
caring of children.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Who are the future for all of us.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
You know, they're the future of this country, and and
nobody really protected them because these big pharmaceutical companies and
the corrupt government officials who were being you know, controlled
by them and colluding with them, just wanted to make
as much money as they could.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
And we wearing masks. Wearing masks also Tony that children
weren't able to socialize whenever one they looked at had
a mask on. This was bad for children to run
around with a mask on and made them fearful.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
This is not right, sure, I mean yeah, I mean
mask use in New York City was. It was just
an incredible thing. Like if you walk down the street
and you didn't have a mask on, people would run
up to you and say, hey, where's your mask? And
you know, you know the point is that people were
just indoctrinated. Nobody cared whether the mask worked. Nobody cared
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whether the masks had big holes in them, if they
were Chinese masks with little plastic particles in them. It
was the idea of the mask, not the mask itself.
It didn't matter that it protected you or didn't protect you.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
It mattered whether you were complying with the rules. That
what people cared about.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Even people standing in the streets in New York smoking
cigarettes with their masks off, nobody cared. Nobody cared just
as long as the mask was sort of like sitting
on their chin, so it showed that they were basically
complying they had the mask with them, you know, because
it was never about public health, It was never about
protecting anybody.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
No, the mask had a number of doctors has told
me this. They said, the mascot is about as valuable
as having a chain lake fince to keep mosquitoes out.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Yeah, so, you know, you know, this entire period seems
to be about control. But so many people, so many
smart people still believe and I and I hear it
day after day because I'm in touch with a lot
of people on all sides, right, and I hear day
after day people who believe that, uh, that the COVID
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vaccines were the you know, the thing that saved civilization,
and so just to have smart people on both sides
who just have totally different views of the world. And
my view is that the reason that the other side
has this view is that there were such incredible propaganda
tools that were used against them, you know, billions and
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billions of dollars worth of it. And basically the ability
to tell a message and you confuse people and trick
people and give them false the information is just so
strong now, I mean, it would be the envy.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Of any dictator in the history of the world.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Well, they followed the Chinese model, and the other thing
they kept saying was it's a disease of the unvaxed.
We're gonna have to take a break right now, and
we'll be right back with Tony Lyons. This is a
book you ought to have, the book on Anthony Fauci
by Robert Kennedy. It's amazing book. We'll be right back
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wanted to say about the was poisted upon us as
the truth, where we were not allowed to say anything
other than the government propaganda. They to restrict you from
Twitter and all of that. I was restricted from all
that go ahead.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
So the amazing thing is how how hard the opposing
forces worked to control the message. And one of the
great ways that they did that great in the sense
of effective ways that we should all learn from is
that they they use sort of double speak. It's sort
of a you know, it's a nineteen eighty four type
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tactic where they where Biden says that he's trying to
protect us from misinformation.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Right, that he's that that that he's going to help us.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
So the so the person who is sort of at
the forefront of censorship at the moment, you know, then
says comes out publicly and says, we're going to work
day and night to make sure that you don't get
any wrong information. And what they mean by that is
they're going to just tell you what the truth is.
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You know.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
They're gonna tell you what to think, what.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
To do, what to read, what to eat, what to
you know, what vaccines to take, what pills to take.
They're going to control your whole life, and they're gonna
do it in subtle ways so that you feel good
about it and you feel.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Like it's your own choice. And so in so many different.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Ways, the people who told us they were gonna protect
us were lying to us, but they did it in
that sort of way that it sounded like they were
trying to do something good.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
They wanted to control, to manipulate, and ultimately may have
wanted to kill off certain people in the country. Are
a huge bunch of the population. Because this is what
even Vice President Harris said, the population's too large. I
think this may have been a part of it also
because this was worldwide. Now in India they had hydroxychlorok
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when they gave to people, they gave that to people
in Africa and ivermectin. Both of those were effective and
they knew it. But how many doctors, how many nurses
even now, doctor Tenpenny, doctor Maryland Singleton, doctor Meryl Nass
All those are mentioned in the book, but they all
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have been censored by who, by the Medical Association, which
is owned by what it's owned by the drug companies.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
So what you see, which is really shocking, but you've
seen it in all kinds of other ways in the
last ten twenty years, is that the you know, richest
and most powerful country on Earth, you know, the.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Country that spends the most.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Money on healthcare, you know, that could have that should
be a shining example of health to people all around
the world, is actually at the bottom of almost every
list of the eighteen most industrial countries on the planet.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
So you know, in you know, child mortality, baby mortality.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
And pregnant women's health, in obesity, in allergies, in you know,
diabetes and heart disease, in young children, cancer and young children.
I mean, we are at the bottom of the list
in everything. And it's really you know, shows you what
led up to COVID. So you know, we have the
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opportunity in all kinds of ways to like I said,
you know, do better than anybody else, to be be
a leader and to you know, really study and think
about human health and have our citizens be more healthy.
And there were presidents in the in the fifties and
the sixties who actually did.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Kind of focus on health.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
It was almost like a Cold War thing where they
wanted to prove that Americans were tough.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Look at what happened, Look what happened with polio. They
did a great job with that in many respects. And
this this was back when people actually aired. But now
it seems like the dollar has become most important to people,
and this has become the bane of America and the
bane of the world. People like yourself, you're bringing it
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back with truth. That's what we need is a light
shining shining on and I want to say there's a
couple of people who are doing a great job. Brand
Paul's one of them. He's really bringing out facts on
doctor Fauci, and I think doctor Fauci's going to come
to justice before it's over. We'll take a break right now,
be right back. We got a whole lot more to
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talk about with Tony Lyons.
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Speaker 2 (21:03):
We're talking with the publisher of Skyhorse Publishing, Tony Lyons,
the book The Real Anthony Fauci. Now. One of the
things that the reason why this book is so important
is that this isn't over. Doctor Mandy Cohen, who recently
placed doctor Rochelle Wilensky, says, the new CDC recommendation is
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that they are going to have a new COVID nineteen
vaccine coupled with the flu vaccine. They noticed that the
efficacy data from trials they've been relying on antibody measurements,
animal experiments, observational studies see whether the vaccines are effective
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mostly against infection and severe illness. They don't have any
any actual stats on long term or anything else concerning this,
so it's still virtually experimental basis of mandates from colleges
and other institutions. That's going to be coming in again.
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Updated shots would be rolled out in September. First time.
We won't contain any components of the Wuhan variant the
original strain spending five billion on what it calls Operation
Next gen an effort that includes trying and support development
of better vaccines. Major drug companies are preparing the combination.
The FDA gave Pfizer buy in tech permission in twenty
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twenty two to track a candidate that uses messenger RNA
technology like their vaccine or during US work on a combination.
The companies need a new market for the COVID product
and then get that by combining it with influenza. It's
still here, they're still doing this book should be in
everybody's hands to get the truth.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yeah, what's amazing is that that one. It's so hard
to get the truth. You know when somebody like Bobby
Kennedy comes along and risks everything and has nothing to
gain from it. He's already from a you know, from
a family that's that's well known, that's wealthy.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
That has given that has given so much to this country.
Let's put that on there too. Sure that dollars life
is uncle's life, right.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, that they gave their lives for this country.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
But you know that didn't make him hide, you know,
because it's clear that he's more afraid of what's happening
to his country than he is about losing his own life.
And you know what you see when when you look
at what the DNC has done in the last few weeks,
that they've come after him in all kinds of ways.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Well, they're they're afraid. They are already running the twenty
twenty four they're already working on how they're going to
steal the election. What they've done to Donald Trump, but
what they've done to Robert Kennedy. Also, eight and ten
Democratic primary voters want Joe Biden to debate. They want
him to debate, and that's because Robert Kennedy and debate
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would tear him up. Fifteen percent back Kennedy, six percent,
Mary Ann Williamson twenty one percent undecided, and most Democrats
maybe fifty percent a little over fifty support Biden. But
the fact of the matter is debate. Everything that's happened
in the last two weeks Hawaii and everything else where's
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the president been at the beach. He doesn't want to
debate anybody.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
No, he's afraid to debate Bobby Kennedy, and the DNC
won't allow that to happen because they just want to
be able to, you know, to decide for all of
us who gets to be the candidate, and that's not democracy.
They want him to be the candidate because he's not
going to do anything about the corruption in this country,
anything about their corruption. So they're afraid of Bobby and
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they say that Bobby Kennedy is dangerous, and we know
you and I know what he's a danger to. He
isn't a danger to, you know, hard working middle class
people in this country. He's a danger to the corrupt,
really powerful people who are taking your money, who are
lying to you, you know, who are making it impossible
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for you to get really good, honest information.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
That's what he's a danger to.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
And they're fighting that tooth and nail, but I think
that it's not going to work in the end. And
that what you see is if they've been kind of
throwing the kitchen sink at Kennedy, you know, just making
up story after story, right, and you see, you know
how much power they have. I mean, I mean, think
about our government. I mean, we have so much trouble
getting anything done. But they came up with this fake
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story that he was an anti semi not a.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Shred of truth to it.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
But they're able to get one hundred Congress people to
sign a document saying that, and then they send out
millions of emails trying to get Bobby Kennedy taken out
of the ballot. So you're right, you know, they're scared
to death of him. They're doing everything that they can
and it's just not working.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
The last election, no Democrat and combany in office. Biden
was in eleven sanctioned debates. He looked terrible in some
of those, even uh Camella, even Camell beating a couple
of those, but he looked terrible. But this time he
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no debates for him, no debates, no questions, nothing, He
just walks off.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
But I think that the American people are tired of
this stuff and they're not going to just let it
happen this time. You know, they see that on the DNC.
You know, from the DNC side, this is the same
kind of playbook that they used with Bernie Sanders and
that they'd used before that they're going to just try
to take down anybody who.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
They disagree with.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
They don't care whether it's true or not, they don't
care what they have to say. They just want to
control the outcome, and they want to control everything that
has to do with politics and the American people can
see that it's so obvious what's going on now, and
there's so many alternative shows that they can go through.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
So we're sort of coming out the other end where
you know, you can kick.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Tucker Carlson off Fox News, but then he goes and
he gets you know, thirty times the number of viewers
on you know, Twitter now x. Or you look at
Joe Rogan versus any mainstream, you know, primetime TV show,
and he's getting you know, five times what they're getting,
or ten times what they're getting.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Because people are just tired of being lied to.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Now, if you read the opening, he has this list
of the doctors who have stood beside and have come
out against it. This is a who's who of medicine,
isn't it. Doctor Jane Oriot I know her very very well.
Doctor Graves, Kathleen Graves, she's been on my program. I
know her very very well. There are just a whole
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ton of people who have come out and are on
the uh what they call that the main line doctors
or those who are standing up you know what I'm
talking about.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Yeah, yeah, the FLCCC, but also you know, lots of
other groups that came together so you know a lot
of people in places like New York City think that
there's this incredible consensus, and what they don't recognize is
that it's an absolutely manufactured consensus that anybody who disagreed.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
You know, they didn't only use people to take them down.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
They weren't doing research into whether people were right or
wrong and trying.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
To protect the public. They were just protecting themselves.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
And they were using bots, and they were using AI
to track down, you know, specific people and specific combinations
of words to take things, you know, off the Internet,
even from from chat rooms.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
From anything. They could just destroy.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
An idea without having to make a better argument, just
by force.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Right, And this is what you went from the start
of Skyhorse Publishing. This is what you were fighting against,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Yeah, well, there's something about the printed book that I
think is a lot harder to just shut down. You know,
you can do a lot, but you know, for the
real Anthony Fauci, we really were going out there and
we were talking directly to people on any any shows
we could get in. People were running book clubs, people
were having parties. It was a total grassroots operation and
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we sold one point one million copies of it despite
you know, the worst censorship that I've ever.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Seen, one point one million on a band book. That's incredible. Now,
Vaxed Unvaxed, tell me a little bit about that because
I haven't seen it. It just came out.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah, it's a brand new book just coming out now.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
And you know, the story there is you know, what
you hear is that vaccines are safe and effective, there's
nothing to worry about. Give them to your children, give
as many as you can, give them, all on the
same day. But what they did in this book is
and it's proper that their sirens in the background.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
It sounds like the police are coming for you for
telling the truth, right.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Yeah, yeah, but but but but also the you know,
the police ought to be coming for the people who
lie to the American public.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Police ought to be coming for doctor Fauci for sure,
for lying to a public and number of people did.
He's our own version of doctor Mengelo in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Yeah, I mean he is, you know, obviously somebody who
needs to be investigated.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
And so the idea that.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
How much money is this man, how much money is
this man made? He was the highest paid person in
the federal government at one point.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
What we know, to go back to the thing that
I said before about us living in an oldigarchy is that,
you know, we we have a system where the leading
pharmaceutical companies can all be guilty of criminal uh you know,
can all get criminally fined, so they can be investigated,
found guilty of crimes, but there are no criminals, you know,
(31:01):
so they can do whatever they want. It's just the
cost of doing business if they get a criminal fine.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Right.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
So I think, you know, in a hundred years, people
are going to look back and they're going to say
that all these companies are you know, creating products that
are funded by the government. They're funded by the taxpayers.
The private company gets to keep all the money. They
don't have any liability for it because Congress votes, you know,
to give them immunity from liability. The individual actors can't
(31:28):
be prosecuted, don't go to prison, nothing happens to them
when they commit crimes. There's just a fine, which is
a small percentage of the money that's coming in. So
it's it's just corruption at every level. So corruption in
the agencies of government, corruption, and the pharmaceutical companies themselves
that they're really just not They just don't care.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
They just want to sell more products.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
And see the worker a company and I come up
with a product, the patent belongs to the company. In
this case, a patent belongs to doctor Fuci.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Yeah, well what can happen now in government which a
lot of people don't recognize. So you know, for example,
seventy five percent of the FDA's budget comes from the
pharmaceutical companies and the other companies that they're supposed to
be regulating, and we all know that would never work.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
That people work for the people.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Who pay them, so if they're funding the government, the
government works for them. And you know, so those kinds
of things are just very scary to think about. And
if you're a government employee and you come up with
a patent, you know, in any other kind of business,
it would be owned by the company that you're working for.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Right, Well, when you're working for the government, you own.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
It, right right.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
When you're working for the government, you know, you own
a share of it. So people can work for the
government like doctor Fauci and own a part of a
patent and get millions and millions of dollars that they
don't have.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
To you know, publicly disclosed.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
So you know, we need to get to the bottom
of how this whole corrupt criminal.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Organization, which is public health works.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
And the point that Bobby Kennedy is making is that,
you know, he's really looked into public health. But I
think that if you look at the other areas, you
find the same kinds of things. And so, you know,
we are living in a corrupt country and we need
a politician. We need a you know, president who's going
to fight that, because it can be fought if you really.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Have the political will to do it and.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
You're not afraid of consequences, you know, like Bobby Kennedy
Isn't you know that. I think you go in there
and you make it and you change the rules, and
you say, we don't want our or organizations of government.
We don't want our agencies of government controlled by private companies.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
You know, we don't want our prisons run by private companies.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
We want a government that is acting the American people,
that is small, that is honest, and that is working
to help us.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Absolutely. Now, did you do the published Life My Government
Told Me by Robert Malone.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yeah, that's a fantastic book.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
And I wanted to mention that, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
I mean doctor Malone is is a you know, incredibly
well credentialed, uh doctor scientist, and he sees.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
He's war He's a warrior for truth, he really is.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
And you know what you see with doctor Malone, and
you see it with Bobby Kennedy, and you see it
with so many different people who are fighting to tell
the truth is that they attack you from all sides,
and they use all kinds of psychops you know, psyops
psychological sort of methods to try to take you down,
to try to confuse people, to try to turn people
(34:54):
against each other.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
And that's exactly what's happened.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
You know. I was listening to an old clip from
Chucks on President Trump, and what he says is, you know,
he gets on too. I think it's CNN, might be MSNBC,
but he gets on and they're discussing how Trump has
been attacking the intelligence agencies, and Chuck Schumer starts laughing
(35:19):
and saying he has no idea what he's doing, He
has no idea what's going to happen to him next,
that they have six ways from Sunday to take you
down to him.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
He said, they've unleashed the whirlwind when he did that, right,
and they have certainly come after him, and that's exactly true.
But this is how they function, has nothing to do
with truth, has nothing to do with the America public.
They have decimated the Constitution. We're going to have a
hard time getting it backed. But I know Robert Kennedy,
(35:49):
I know Donald Trump. Both believe in the Constitution. They
are people who believe in America, and that's a plus.
That's why I like both of them. I would be
very up that if Bobby Kennedy or Donald J. Trump
became president again, because I know they care about we
the people. They are our only things standing between us
(36:10):
and autalitarianism.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah, I mean I think that. You know, when you
look at Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
You know you see somebody who, to a lot of
people has become a folk hero, who is sort of
a real old fashioned warrior.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Let's do a quote to him before we've finished this segment.
Let's do a quote from John F. Kennedy. Robert Kennedy
is a profile encourage. We'll be right back with Tony
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You've got a new book coming out by Robert Kennedy.
Don't you not having to do with COVID?
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yes, it is the Well it does.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Have to do with COVID. It goes back to doctor
she and the whole group, and he gave them money.
Even though Barack Obama told him not to send any
and Trump told them not to Sunday still went through
and threw shot it there through Echo Health Alliance. Did
he get into.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
That, Yeah, he definitely does.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
And when you think about it, it's a little bit
like you know when the you know, when the US
governments kind of came out and said, hey, wait a second,
you're not allowed to torture people that, you know, even
if we're trying to do something good, we can't go
around the world torturing people. And so so the military
and the intelligence agencies did it anyway. But what they
(38:48):
did was they farmed it out to other people. They
paid them, They sat in the other room, told them
what to ask and that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Well, that's what the foucher did with the Echo Health Alliance.
He just farmed it through another brand should send over
basically a laundering money, but it went to where he
wanted to go to, to Wuhan.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
So the government, you know, legally and constitutionally shouldn't be
allowed to farm out to a third party what they
can't do themselves. So they shouldn't be able to do
that with you know, bioweapons research. They shouldn't be allowed
to do that with torture, and they certainly shouldn't be
allowed to do that with censorship. But they've been doing
all three and so much of what's covered in the
(39:28):
book is the history of bioweapons research. That book is
the Wuhan cover up.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Wow wow.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
So the first half of the book is all about
bioweapons research that's been.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Going on now for decades. It's incredibly dangerous.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
It's you know, it's something that if it got in
the hands of terrorists, it could be.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Used to target ethnic groups or racial groups because people
react differently different.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Viruses, right, So it's an incredibly dangerous tool, and it's
being you know, developed by people who don't have our
best interest in mind.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
They're not really trying to protect us.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
They're they're creating something that is very, very dangerous and
it needs to be shut down all around the world.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
And we've got these labs.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
And we know they're all around the world, and it's
just you know, country after country where we've been farming
out things that are illegal in the United States.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
They admitted to forty labs on the border with Russia
in the Ukraine that they set up forty, and they
set up the one in California now and this set up,
I mean, it just doesn't stop. These people are merchants of.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Death, definitely.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
So you know, when you think about it, you know,
you just need to have a president who isn't going
to allow this kind of criminal activity to happen all
around the world, isn't going to allow these sort of
fake wars, these endless wars that are really just about
making money for military industrial companies. And you know, all
(41:11):
of this ties in together, and we just need somebody
who will stop it, who will turn this all around
and start to make us the kind of country that
we can be once again. And I think that Bobby
Kennedy would do that. That's why I'm the co founder
of the super pac American Values dot Org.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
I encourage people to look it up.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
They can also follow me on Instagram at Tony Lyons
is uncertain And the reason that I use that is
because you know, the truth is not easy to figure out.
You have to kind of do your research, you have
to live in uncertainty and try to learn as much
as you can and not allow yourself to become the
subject of propaganda and censorship.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Absolutely, and the fact that now give me that the
company or the place for your you're not the website
but for Robert Kennedy that you're talking about just now.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Yeah, Yeah, it's American Values twenty twenty four dot org.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
And if you want to find any of the books
that I.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
Talked about and that we discussed, it's Skyhorse Publishing dot com.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
American Values twenty twenty four dot com.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
No, American Values twenty twenty four dot org dot org.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Gotcha, and that that would be a good place to
go to safeguard our freedoms. Do you think we're going
to have well, I know we're not going to have
a free and fair election this time either. I don't
think so.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Well.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
One of the things that the superPAC is going to
work day and night to get done is to ensure
that they are free. And you know, it's a battle
and everybody.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Should be involved if they.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Can, if they have you know, the heart for it,
the energy for it, and if they're willing to spend
the time. There's a lot of work to be done
and there's no way that you get freedom in this
world unless you're willing to fight for it.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
No matter how you vote, it should be done honestly,
and that's what we want to do in twenty twenty four.
It's going to be very difficult, but it takes something
like American Values twenty twenty four dot org to do it.
Thank you so much, Tony Lyons for being on. God
bless you and the work that you're doing and the
words that you bring out to the American public and
(43:22):
the world.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah, thanks so much, and thanks for doing this great show.
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Speaker 2 (00:32):
Very happy to have my guest, Tony Lyons. He's president
publisher of Skyhorse Publishing, a company has over ten thousand
books in print. Tony has fought the censorship for the
censorship of faught against the censorship, I'm sorry of numerous books,
including books by Woody Allen, Alan Dercherwitz, Biography of Philip Roth,
(00:53):
and Robert F. Kennedy Juniors, The Real Anthony Fauci, the
best selling and most censored book in America, and the
just released vax un Vaxed. Let the Science Speak, also
by Robert F. Kennedy Skyhorse Publishing dot Com. Tony wrote
(01:13):
is an opening for the Robert F. Kennedy book, The
Incredible Robert F. Kennedy book best selling, which is great
The Real Anthony Falci. Complex scientific and moral problems are
not resolved through censorship of descending opinions, deleting contexts from
(01:33):
the Internet, and he goes on to say or defaming
scientists and authors who present information challenging to those in power.
Censorship leads instead to greater distrust of both government and institutions.
He had Robert Kennedy who was testifying for Congress, and
(01:55):
they wanted to censor him. This is incredible. Censorship will
destroy this country. And we're all talk a lot about that.
That's amazing. Isn't it the censorship most censored book in history?
Isn't it?
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Oh? Yes, definitely.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
I mean I don't think that there's ever been a
book that was censored in so many different ways.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
So most of the censorship tools that are available now
were never heard.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
Before, you know, so things like on Amazon, the book
got twenty three thousand reviews, and almost every one of
those reviews was a five star review. But what happened
was Amazon took down the lights for all the five stars,
so the negative ones show up at the top. And
(02:44):
the problem is most people just read the first view,
they don't dig down too low, so they've been able
to make it look like there are a lot of
people who don't like the book, even though ninety five
percent of.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
The people who bought it gave it a five star.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Well, doctors are reading it. I went to my own
doctor and on his waiting table out in front where
patients sis, he had a copy of the real Anthony Fauci.
That's a good thing to see, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (03:11):
Yeah, they're definitely trying to make it look like you know,
it's a it's a fringed kind of book, but it's
a book that's you know, it has blurbs from doctors, lawyers,
and scientists. You know, it's got a Nobel Prize winning
scientist giving it a blurb. So you know, this is
not a marginal book. This is a seminal book. It's
got two and ninety four citations. You know, it's it's
(03:34):
a book that should have led to an investigation by
places like the New York Times and the Washington Posts
that they should, you know, get out there and do
their jobs when a serious person who worked on this book,
you know, seven days a week for nine months, claims
corruption at the highest levels of government and financial entanglements
(03:54):
that lead our government, the FDA, the CDC to be
protecting you know, big pharmaceutical companies at the expense of
public health.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
You know.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
So they're supposed to be working for us, and the
newspapers are supposed to demand that they're honest and investigate corruption,
and so what they did instead was they ran, you know,
something like a dozen hit pieces against Robert F.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Kennedy Jr. At the same time that the book came out.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
So they just worked tirelessly to vilify him and to
try to discredit him, and didn't mention at all the
claims of corruption in governments. So when you see that,
you just see that we're living in a kind of
an oligarchy and we're not aware of it. That most
people are just not aware of what's going on. And
that's why these kinds of books are so important, because
(04:45):
there's a whole narrative that is, you know, shut down
by the most powerful people, the most powerful corporations, and
the most powerful you know, government agencies.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
You can't go to the mainstream media. They're bought and
paid for. Most of the ads you see on the
mainstream media or what they're for drug companies and the
drug companies who want to keep this out, they want
to keep it away. Companies like Pfizer, how much did
they make? How many billions? People like Bill Gates making billions?
Officer Vaccine. You said, we published authors on many sides
(05:21):
of controversy. That's what you do because as best publishing
is a town square lets everyone be heard, and let's
everyone else listen if they choose to. Alan Durschwitz said,
always learn why I reader hear Bobby's take. How principled
and careful Bobby is an author, How painstaking they of
his research. You didn't have to do a lot of
(05:43):
fact checking. You want fact check, let them fact check
this because Bobby Kennedy's telling the truth in this book.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
And you know, the point is that the book was
just incredibly well fact checked.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
So there was a whole team of people reading it.
Speaker 4 (05:57):
I mean, we had twenty or thirty people read it
when it was done.
Speaker 3 (06:01):
But in you know, in the.
Speaker 4 (06:02):
Process of putting it together, Bobby Kennedy had dozens of people,
experts in each area look at it because he just
wanted to be sure that it was unimpeachable. You know
that that nobody could come back and find something that
wasn't proven well by the citations in the book.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Oh, if they had found anything, you all will have
been crucified. They didn't find a thing because what he
told was the truth.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:30):
And if you know, if they have a better argument,
they should make it. And if they think that he
got it wrong, they should, you know, show where he
got it wrong. And if doctor Fauci believes that he
really represents science and that you know, nobody is allowed
to disagree with him, he should get on television with
Bobby Kennedy and debate some of these issues. So, you know,
(06:50):
censorship is sort of a tool of people who are
weak in the sense that they don't have an argument
that they believe in and that there just then.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
They also will say that science is settled, like Fauci said,
he is science. Where do you go from there? But
he's destroyed science, He's destroyed medicine. So much in this
country has been destroyed because they believed Anthony Fauci, the mask,
the distances, the whole thing, the fact that if you
(07:23):
had COVID at one time, that's the best protection you
could get. No, he didn't allow that. I mean, this
is just one lie on top of another, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
It definitely is.
Speaker 4 (07:35):
And you know, you see a book like our book
by doctor Pierre Corey called the War on Ibermectin, and
you get sort of a microcosm of what was happening
on such a large scale that they were just attacking
every kind of treatment because they did not care about
helping people. They just cared about making money.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
They wanted to promote. They wanted to promote romdisappear, which
was very expensive and tore up your kid, as opposed
to ivermexan and hydroxychloric when they both worked. I had
a friend and I talked, just talked with a person
has another friend of his who took the ivermectin, and
immediately you can feel results taken for the five days
(08:16):
that it's over with. It's cheap, it's not patented, it's
been around forever. They don't want it.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
That's yeah, that's the problem with it is that there's
no money that a big pharmaceutical company can make on
a generic drug. So you take you know, one course
of ivermectin. You know, the pills cost thirty cents each
or something like that, right, and so you know, versus
things that that you can just milk the public for
(08:42):
that you can just you know, and they don't really
care whether it works or not. You know, they don't
they don't care whether it's actually helping people. They just
care that they can get away with it, that they're
protected from liability, and that they can force it onto
the American public.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Not only that, but nobody talks about out how you
should be taking vitamin D three, How you should be
out in the sunlight, not keeping inside the house. When
you're in the sunlight, you're getting D three, that's very valuable.
How you should not take ibuprofen because it formed the
receptor sites. How children children do not have receptor sites
(09:18):
form most of them. And Germany, the number of patients
there children, None of them died with COVID. Children very few.
I mean, at point oh one percent if that the
die of COVID, it was almost negligible number who died.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
Yeah, So the only reason that they wanted to give
it to children, from what I can tell and from
what I've heard, is that it was just another very
large market.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
So it was an assault on children. You know that.
Obviously children could have gone to.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
School like they did in Sweden, like they did in
so many other countries, And if they'd gone to school,
you wouldn't have seen the incredible spike in suicide rates,
incredible spike in learning disabilities, you know, the incredible spike
in social issues, you know, all kinds of things. By
any measure, children really suffered during COVID. Now four children
(10:12):
suffered more than than wealthy children for obvious reasons, like
they didn't have access to good computers, so they lost
two or three years at a pivotal developmental stage. And
you know, that just shows such an incredible lack of
caring of children.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Who are the future for all of us.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
You know, they're the future of this country, and and
nobody really protected them because these big pharmaceutical companies and
the corrupt government officials who were being you know, controlled
by them and colluding with them, just wanted to make
as much money as they could.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
And we wearing masks. Wearing masks also Tony that children
weren't able to socialize whenever one they looked at had
a mask on. This was bad for children to run
around with a mask on and made them fearful.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
This is not right, sure, I mean yeah, I mean
mask use in New York City was. It was just
an incredible thing. Like if you walk down the street
and you didn't have a mask on, people would run
up to you and say, hey, where's your mask? And
you know, you know the point is that people were
just indoctrinated. Nobody cared whether the mask worked. Nobody cared
(11:22):
whether the masks had big holes in them, if they
were Chinese masks with little plastic particles in them. It
was the idea of the mask, not the mask itself.
It didn't matter that it protected you or didn't protect you.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
It mattered whether you were complying with the rules. That
what people cared about.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Even people standing in the streets in New York smoking
cigarettes with their masks off, nobody cared. Nobody cared just
as long as the mask was sort of like sitting
on their chin, so it showed that they were basically
complying they had the mask with them, you know, because
it was never about public health, It was never about
protecting anybody.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
No, the mask had a number of doctors has told
me this. They said, the mascot is about as valuable
as having a chain lake fince to keep mosquitoes out.
Speaker 3 (12:08):
Right.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Yeah, so, you know, you know, this entire period seems
to be about control. But so many people, so many
smart people still believe and I and I hear it
day after day because I'm in touch with a lot
of people on all sides, right, and I hear day
after day people who believe that, uh, that the COVID
(12:29):
vaccines were the you know, the thing that saved civilization,
and so just to have smart people on both sides
who just have totally different views of the world. And
my view is that the reason that the other side
has this view is that there were such incredible propaganda
tools that were used against them, you know, billions and
(12:53):
billions of dollars worth of it. And basically the ability
to tell a message and you confuse people and trick
people and give them false the information is just so
strong now, I mean, it would be the envy.
Speaker 3 (13:08):
Of any dictator in the history of the world.
Speaker 2 (13:10):
Well, they followed the Chinese model, and the other thing
they kept saying was it's a disease of the unvaxed.
We're gonna have to take a break right now, and
we'll be right back with Tony Lyons. This is a
book you ought to have, the book on Anthony Fauci
by Robert Kennedy. It's amazing book. We'll be right back
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wanted to say about the was poisted upon us as
the truth, where we were not allowed to say anything
other than the government propaganda. They to restrict you from
Twitter and all of that. I was restricted from all
that go ahead.
Speaker 3 (15:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (15:14):
So the amazing thing is how how hard the opposing
forces worked to control the message. And one of the
great ways that they did that great in the sense
of effective ways that we should all learn from is
that they they use sort of double speak. It's sort
of a you know, it's a nineteen eighty four type
(15:36):
tactic where they where Biden says that he's trying to
protect us from misinformation.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Right, that he's that that that he's going to help us.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
So the so the person who is sort of at
the forefront of censorship at the moment, you know, then
says comes out publicly and says, we're going to work
day and night to make sure that you don't get
any wrong information. And what they mean by that is
they're going to just tell you what the truth is.
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You know.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
They're gonna tell you what to think, what.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
To do, what to read, what to eat, what to
you know, what vaccines to take, what pills to take.
They're going to control your whole life, and they're gonna
do it in subtle ways so that you feel good
about it and you feel.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
Like it's your own choice. And so in so many different.
Speaker 4 (16:24):
Ways, the people who told us they were gonna protect
us were lying to us, but they did it in
that sort of way that it sounded like they were
trying to do something good.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
They wanted to control, to manipulate, and ultimately may have
wanted to kill off certain people in the country. Are
a huge bunch of the population. Because this is what
even Vice President Harris said, the population's too large. I
think this may have been a part of it also
because this was worldwide. Now in India they had hydroxychlorok
(16:56):
when they gave to people, they gave that to people
in Africa and ivermectin. Both of those were effective and
they knew it. But how many doctors, how many nurses
even now, doctor Tenpenny, doctor Maryland Singleton, doctor Meryl Nass
All those are mentioned in the book, but they all
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have been censored by who, by the Medical Association, which
is owned by what it's owned by the drug companies.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
So what you see, which is really shocking, but you've
seen it in all kinds of other ways in the
last ten twenty years, is that the you know, richest
and most powerful country on Earth, you know, the.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Country that spends the most.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
Money on healthcare, you know, that could have that should
be a shining example of health to people all around
the world, is actually at the bottom of almost every
list of the eighteen most industrial countries on the planet.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
So you know, in you know, child mortality, baby mortality.
Speaker 4 (18:03):
And pregnant women's health, in obesity, in allergies, in you know,
diabetes and heart disease, in young children, cancer and young children.
I mean, we are at the bottom of the list
in everything. And it's really you know, shows you what
led up to COVID. So you know, we have the
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opportunity in all kinds of ways to like I said,
you know, do better than anybody else, to be be
a leader and to you know, really study and think
about human health and have our citizens be more healthy.
And there were presidents in the in the fifties and
the sixties who actually did.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Kind of focus on health.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
It was almost like a Cold War thing where they
wanted to prove that Americans were tough.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Look at what happened, Look what happened with polio. They
did a great job with that in many respects. And
this this was back when people actually aired. But now
it seems like the dollar has become most important to people,
and this has become the bane of America and the
bane of the world. People like yourself, you're bringing it
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back with truth. That's what we need is a light
shining shining on and I want to say there's a
couple of people who are doing a great job. Brand
Paul's one of them. He's really bringing out facts on
doctor Fauci, and I think doctor Fauci's going to come
to justice before it's over. We'll take a break right now,
be right back. We got a whole lot more to
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We're talking with the publisher of Skyhorse Publishing, Tony Lyons,
the book The Real Anthony Fauci. Now. One of the
things that the reason why this book is so important
is that this isn't over. Doctor Mandy Cohen, who recently
placed doctor Rochelle Wilensky, says, the new CDC recommendation is
(21:25):
that they are going to have a new COVID nineteen
vaccine coupled with the flu vaccine. They noticed that the
efficacy data from trials they've been relying on antibody measurements,
animal experiments, observational studies see whether the vaccines are effective
(21:47):
mostly against infection and severe illness. They don't have any
any actual stats on long term or anything else concerning this,
so it's still virtually experimental basis of mandates from colleges
and other institutions. That's going to be coming in again.
(22:07):
Updated shots would be rolled out in September. First time.
We won't contain any components of the Wuhan variant the
original strain spending five billion on what it calls Operation
Next gen an effort that includes trying and support development
of better vaccines. Major drug companies are preparing the combination.
The FDA gave Pfizer buy in tech permission in twenty
(22:30):
twenty two to track a candidate that uses messenger RNA
technology like their vaccine or during US work on a combination.
The companies need a new market for the COVID product
and then get that by combining it with influenza. It's
still here, they're still doing this book should be in
everybody's hands to get the truth.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Yeah, what's amazing is that that one. It's so hard
to get the truth. You know when somebody like Bobby
Kennedy comes along and risks everything and has nothing to
gain from it. He's already from a you know, from
a family that's that's well known, that's wealthy.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
That has given that has given so much to this country.
Let's put that on there too. Sure that dollars life
is uncle's life, right.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Yeah, that they gave their lives for this country.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
But you know that didn't make him hide, you know,
because it's clear that he's more afraid of what's happening
to his country than he is about losing his own life.
And you know what you see when when you look
at what the DNC has done in the last few weeks,
that they've come after him in all kinds of ways.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Well, they're they're afraid. They are already running the twenty
twenty four they're already working on how they're going to
steal the election. What they've done to Donald Trump, but
what they've done to Robert Kennedy. Also, eight and ten
Democratic primary voters want Joe Biden to debate. They want
him to debate, and that's because Robert Kennedy and debate
(24:05):
would tear him up. Fifteen percent back Kennedy, six percent,
Mary Ann Williamson twenty one percent undecided, and most Democrats
maybe fifty percent a little over fifty support Biden. But
the fact of the matter is debate. Everything that's happened
in the last two weeks Hawaii and everything else where's
(24:28):
the president been at the beach. He doesn't want to
debate anybody.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
No, he's afraid to debate Bobby Kennedy, and the DNC
won't allow that to happen because they just want to
be able to, you know, to decide for all of
us who gets to be the candidate, and that's not democracy.
They want him to be the candidate because he's not
going to do anything about the corruption in this country,
anything about their corruption. So they're afraid of Bobby and
(24:57):
they say that Bobby Kennedy is dangerous, and we know
you and I know what he's a danger to. He
isn't a danger to, you know, hard working middle class
people in this country. He's a danger to the corrupt,
really powerful people who are taking your money, who are
lying to you, you know, who are making it impossible
(25:18):
for you to get really good, honest information.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
That's what he's a danger to.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
And they're fighting that tooth and nail, but I think
that it's not going to work in the end. And
that what you see is if they've been kind of
throwing the kitchen sink at Kennedy, you know, just making
up story after story, right, and you see, you know
how much power they have. I mean, I mean, think
about our government. I mean, we have so much trouble
getting anything done. But they came up with this fake
(25:46):
story that he was an anti semi not a.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Shred of truth to it.
Speaker 4 (25:50):
But they're able to get one hundred Congress people to
sign a document saying that, and then they send out
millions of emails trying to get Bobby Kennedy taken out
of the ballot. So you're right, you know, they're scared
to death of him. They're doing everything that they can
and it's just not working.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
The last election, no Democrat and combany in office. Biden
was in eleven sanctioned debates. He looked terrible in some
of those, even uh Camella, even Camell beating a couple
of those, but he looked terrible. But this time he
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no debates for him, no debates, no questions, nothing, He
just walks off.
Speaker 4 (26:33):
But I think that the American people are tired of
this stuff and they're not going to just let it
happen this time. You know, they see that on the DNC.
You know, from the DNC side, this is the same
kind of playbook that they used with Bernie Sanders and
that they'd used before that they're going to just try
to take down anybody who.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
They disagree with.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
They don't care whether it's true or not, they don't
care what they have to say. They just want to
control the outcome, and they want to control everything that
has to do with politics and the American people can
see that it's so obvious what's going on now, and
there's so many alternative shows that they can go through.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
So we're sort of coming out the other end where
you know, you can kick.
Speaker 4 (27:14):
Tucker Carlson off Fox News, but then he goes and
he gets you know, thirty times the number of viewers
on you know, Twitter now x. Or you look at
Joe Rogan versus any mainstream, you know, primetime TV show,
and he's getting you know, five times what they're getting,
or ten times what they're getting.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Because people are just tired of being lied to.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Now, if you read the opening, he has this list
of the doctors who have stood beside and have come
out against it. This is a who's who of medicine,
isn't it. Doctor Jane Oriot I know her very very well.
Doctor Graves, Kathleen Graves, she's been on my program. I
know her very very well. There are just a whole
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ton of people who have come out and are on
the uh what they call that the main line doctors
or those who are standing up you know what I'm
talking about.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
Yeah, yeah, the FLCCC, but also you know, lots of
other groups that came together so you know a lot
of people in places like New York City think that
there's this incredible consensus, and what they don't recognize is
that it's an absolutely manufactured consensus that anybody who disagreed.
Speaker 3 (28:28):
You know, they didn't only use people to take them down.
Speaker 4 (28:31):
They weren't doing research into whether people were right or
wrong and trying.
Speaker 3 (28:34):
To protect the public. They were just protecting themselves.
Speaker 4 (28:37):
And they were using bots, and they were using AI
to track down, you know, specific people and specific combinations
of words to take things, you know, off the Internet,
even from from chat rooms.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
From anything. They could just destroy.
Speaker 4 (28:52):
An idea without having to make a better argument, just
by force.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Right, And this is what you went from the start
of Skyhorse Publishing. This is what you were fighting against,
isn't it.
Speaker 4 (29:05):
Yeah, well, there's something about the printed book that I
think is a lot harder to just shut down. You know,
you can do a lot, but you know, for the
real Anthony Fauci, we really were going out there and
we were talking directly to people on any any shows
we could get in. People were running book clubs, people
were having parties. It was a total grassroots operation and
(29:26):
we sold one point one million copies of it despite
you know, the worst censorship that I've ever.
Speaker 2 (29:32):
Seen, one point one million on a band book. That's incredible. Now,
Vaxed Unvaxed, tell me a little bit about that because
I haven't seen it. It just came out.
Speaker 3 (29:42):
Yeah, it's a brand new book just coming out now.
Speaker 4 (29:45):
And you know, the story there is you know, what
you hear is that vaccines are safe and effective, there's
nothing to worry about. Give them to your children, give
as many as you can, give them, all on the
same day. But what they did in this book is
and it's proper that their sirens in the background.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
It sounds like the police are coming for you for
telling the truth, right.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
Yeah, yeah, but but but but also the you know,
the police ought to be coming for the people who
lie to the American public.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Police ought to be coming for doctor Fauci for sure,
for lying to a public and number of people did.
He's our own version of doctor Mengelo in my opinion.
Speaker 4 (30:25):
Yeah, I mean he is, you know, obviously somebody who
needs to be investigated.
Speaker 3 (30:30):
And so the idea that.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
How much money is this man, how much money is
this man made? He was the highest paid person in
the federal government at one point.
Speaker 4 (30:40):
What we know, to go back to the thing that
I said before about us living in an oldigarchy is that,
you know, we we have a system where the leading
pharmaceutical companies can all be guilty of criminal uh you know,
can all get criminally fined, so they can be investigated,
found guilty of crimes, but there are no criminals, you know,
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so they can do whatever they want. It's just the
cost of doing business if they get a criminal fine.
Speaker 2 (31:05):
Right.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
So I think, you know, in a hundred years, people
are going to look back and they're going to say
that all these companies are you know, creating products that
are funded by the government. They're funded by the taxpayers.
The private company gets to keep all the money. They
don't have any liability for it because Congress votes, you know,
to give them immunity from liability. The individual actors can't
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be prosecuted, don't go to prison, nothing happens to them
when they commit crimes. There's just a fine, which is
a small percentage of the money that's coming in. So
it's it's just corruption at every level. So corruption in
the agencies of government, corruption, and the pharmaceutical companies themselves
that they're really just not They just don't care.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
They just want to sell more products.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
And see the worker a company and I come up
with a product, the patent belongs to the company. In
this case, a patent belongs to doctor Fuci.
Speaker 4 (32:04):
Yeah, well what can happen now in government which a
lot of people don't recognize. So you know, for example,
seventy five percent of the FDA's budget comes from the
pharmaceutical companies and the other companies that they're supposed to
be regulating, and we all know that would never work.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
That people work for the people.
Speaker 4 (32:21):
Who pay them, so if they're funding the government, the
government works for them. And you know, so those kinds
of things are just very scary to think about. And
if you're a government employee and you come up with
a patent, you know, in any other kind of business,
it would be owned by the company that you're working for.
Speaker 2 (32:41):
Right, Well, when you're working for the government, you own.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
It, right right.
Speaker 4 (32:48):
When you're working for the government, you know, you own
a share of it. So people can work for the
government like doctor Fauci and own a part of a
patent and get millions and millions of dollars that they
don't have.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
To you know, publicly disclosed.
Speaker 4 (33:02):
So you know, we need to get to the bottom
of how this whole corrupt criminal.
Speaker 3 (33:08):
Organization, which is public health works.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
And the point that Bobby Kennedy is making is that,
you know, he's really looked into public health. But I
think that if you look at the other areas, you
find the same kinds of things. And so, you know,
we are living in a corrupt country and we need
a politician. We need a you know, president who's going
to fight that, because it can be fought if you really.
Speaker 3 (33:34):
Have the political will to do it and.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
You're not afraid of consequences, you know, like Bobby Kennedy
Isn't you know that. I think you go in there
and you make it and you change the rules, and
you say, we don't want our or organizations of government.
We don't want our agencies of government controlled by private companies.
Speaker 3 (33:54):
You know, we don't want our prisons run by private companies.
Speaker 4 (33:57):
We want a government that is acting the American people,
that is small, that is honest, and that is working
to help us.
Speaker 2 (34:06):
Absolutely. Now, did you do the published Life My Government
Told Me by Robert Malone.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Yeah, that's a fantastic book.
Speaker 2 (34:16):
And I wanted to mention that, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (34:20):
I mean doctor Malone is is a you know, incredibly
well credentialed, uh doctor scientist, and he sees.
Speaker 3 (34:28):
He's war He's a warrior for truth, he really is.
Speaker 4 (34:32):
And you know what you see with doctor Malone, and
you see it with Bobby Kennedy, and you see it
with so many different people who are fighting to tell
the truth is that they attack you from all sides,
and they use all kinds of psychops you know, psyops
psychological sort of methods to try to take you down,
to try to confuse people, to try to turn people
(34:54):
against each other.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
And that's exactly what's happened.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
You know. I was listening to an old clip from
Chucks on President Trump, and what he says is, you know,
he gets on too. I think it's CNN, might be MSNBC,
but he gets on and they're discussing how Trump has
been attacking the intelligence agencies, and Chuck Schumer starts laughing
(35:19):
and saying he has no idea what he's doing, He
has no idea what's going to happen to him next,
that they have six ways from Sunday to take you
down to him.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
He said, they've unleashed the whirlwind when he did that, right,
and they have certainly come after him, and that's exactly true.
But this is how they function, has nothing to do
with truth, has nothing to do with the America public.
They have decimated the Constitution. We're going to have a
hard time getting it backed. But I know Robert Kennedy,
(35:49):
I know Donald Trump. Both believe in the Constitution. They
are people who believe in America, and that's a plus.
That's why I like both of them. I would be
very up that if Bobby Kennedy or Donald J. Trump
became president again, because I know they care about we
the people. They are our only things standing between us
(36:10):
and autalitarianism.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Yeah, I mean I think that. You know, when you
look at Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
You know you see somebody who, to a lot of
people has become a folk hero, who is sort of
a real old fashioned warrior.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
Let's do a quote to him before we've finished this segment.
Let's do a quote from John F. Kennedy. Robert Kennedy
is a profile encourage. We'll be right back with Tony
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You've got a new book coming out by Robert Kennedy.
Don't you not having to do with COVID?
Speaker 3 (38:04):
Yes, it is the Well it does.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
Have to do with COVID. It goes back to doctor
she and the whole group, and he gave them money.
Even though Barack Obama told him not to send any
and Trump told them not to Sunday still went through
and threw shot it there through Echo Health Alliance. Did
he get into.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
That, Yeah, he definitely does.
Speaker 4 (38:24):
And when you think about it, it's a little bit
like you know when the you know, when the US
governments kind of came out and said, hey, wait a second,
you're not allowed to torture people that, you know, even
if we're trying to do something good, we can't go
around the world torturing people. And so so the military
and the intelligence agencies did it anyway. But what they
(38:48):
did was they farmed it out to other people. They
paid them, They sat in the other room, told them
what to ask and that kind of thing.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
Well, that's what the foucher did with the Echo Health Alliance.
He just farmed it through another brand should send over
basically a laundering money, but it went to where he
wanted to go to, to Wuhan.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
Yeah, that's exactly right.
Speaker 4 (39:08):
So the government, you know, legally and constitutionally shouldn't be
allowed to farm out to a third party what they
can't do themselves. So they shouldn't be able to do
that with you know, bioweapons research. They shouldn't be allowed
to do that with torture, and they certainly shouldn't be
allowed to do that with censorship. But they've been doing
all three and so much of what's covered in the
(39:28):
book is the history of bioweapons research. That book is
the Wuhan cover up.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
Wow wow.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:41):
So the first half of the book is all about
bioweapons research that's been.
Speaker 3 (39:47):
Going on now for decades. It's incredibly dangerous.
Speaker 4 (39:51):
It's you know, it's something that if it got in
the hands of terrorists, it could be.
Speaker 3 (39:55):
Used to target ethnic groups or racial groups because people
react differently different.
Speaker 4 (40:00):
Viruses, right, So it's an incredibly dangerous tool, and it's
being you know, developed by people who don't have our
best interest in mind.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
They're not really trying to protect us.
Speaker 4 (40:13):
They're they're creating something that is very, very dangerous and
it needs to be shut down all around the world.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
And we've got these labs.
Speaker 4 (40:21):
And we know they're all around the world, and it's
just you know, country after country where we've been farming
out things that are illegal in the United States.
Speaker 2 (40:30):
They admitted to forty labs on the border with Russia
in the Ukraine that they set up forty, and they
set up the one in California now and this set up,
I mean, it just doesn't stop. These people are merchants of.
Speaker 3 (40:46):
Death, definitely.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
So you know, when you think about it, you know,
you just need to have a president who isn't going
to allow this kind of criminal activity to happen all
around the world, isn't going to allow these sort of
fake wars, these endless wars that are really just about
making money for military industrial companies. And you know, all
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of this ties in together, and we just need somebody
who will stop it, who will turn this all around
and start to make us the kind of country that
we can be once again. And I think that Bobby
Kennedy would do that. That's why I'm the co founder
of the super pac American Values dot Org.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
I encourage people to look it up.
Speaker 4 (41:31):
They can also follow me on Instagram at Tony Lyons
is uncertain And the reason that I use that is
because you know, the truth is not easy to figure out.
You have to kind of do your research, you have
to live in uncertainty and try to learn as much
as you can and not allow yourself to become the
subject of propaganda and censorship.
Speaker 2 (41:52):
Absolutely, and the fact that now give me that the
company or the place for your you're not the website
but for Robert Kennedy that you're talking about just now.
Speaker 4 (42:04):
Yeah, Yeah, it's American Values twenty twenty four dot org.
Speaker 3 (42:09):
And if you want to find any of the books
that I.
Speaker 4 (42:11):
Talked about and that we discussed, it's Skyhorse Publishing dot com.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
American Values twenty twenty four dot com.
Speaker 4 (42:20):
No, American Values twenty twenty four dot org dot org.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
Gotcha, and that that would be a good place to
go to safeguard our freedoms. Do you think we're going
to have well, I know we're not going to have
a free and fair election this time either. I don't
think so.
Speaker 3 (42:37):
Well.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
One of the things that the superPAC is going to
work day and night to get done is to ensure
that they are free. And you know, it's a battle
and everybody.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Should be involved if they.
Speaker 4 (42:48):
Can, if they have you know, the heart for it,
the energy for it, and if they're willing to spend
the time. There's a lot of work to be done
and there's no way that you get freedom in this
world unless you're willing to fight for it.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
No matter how you vote, it should be done honestly,
and that's what we want to do in twenty twenty four.
It's going to be very difficult, but it takes something
like American Values twenty twenty four dot org to do it.
Thank you so much, Tony Lyons for being on. God
bless you and the work that you're doing and the
words that you bring out to the American public and
(43:22):
the world.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Yeah, thanks so much, and thanks for doing this great show.
Speaker 1 (43:29):
All Aboard the Truth Express. You can listen on your
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