Episode 209 - John Cena's Farewell - TWC Show

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resting classic. We are back for the TWC show virtually
this week. We've had some issues recordings since been back
from San Diego. I still got to get the uh
the entire log up. I've seen everybody else's blogs will
flying up. I will get ours up this weekend, hopefully,
but I don't even know if I should this weekend
because it's pretty big. Maybe should got up by Sunday

(02:23):
because after his Saturday, I'm going to be back to normal.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
You should probably just put clips of me and then
John Cena back to me, back to John Cena, Ladies, gentlemen,
boys and girls.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
In three days, on December thirteenth, twenty twenty five, John
Ceno will wrestle his final ever match in the WWE
and his final match and his resting Kirk. Because nobody
thinks John Cena's going anywhere else. He's a w lifer
signed a five year ambassador deal. We are winding up
to that day. As I dropped this. It will be Thursday,

(02:56):
December eleventh, recording this December tenth, after like a thing
on my laptop after a w dynamite but uh.

Speaker 2 (03:04):
Dynamite was shut up. You didn't even watch it and
you won't even be on the show. Those two girls
win the championship. The fact that he said those two
girls Harley Cameron, Yeah, and willing Dale still called Willow.

Speaker 1 (03:27):
Willow Nightingale with willing Dale.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
To say, I'll just stick to willing Dale, willing Dale
and Cameron Quinn. How about the heart No, it's Harley Caer,
Harley Cameron, Harley Quinn. I really try my hardest. I
just I was born this way. Looks like that so dyslexic.
Oh this way.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
But this is not about a w This's about Johnson.
That's the best I said we should do a special,
uh conversation. But John Cena, obviously, I know he's your
favorita of all time and you probably have all these things.
But I messaged you the other night and this is
not alpposed to be like a bummer episode like obviously
it is John Cena, regardless of how I feel about
him as a fan. And I wrote about it in

(04:13):
my capture when I made that video that I'm not
the biggest John Cena fan, I'm not his target audience.
He was waving the flag after Ben Wah did whatever
he did for this company through a PG era.

Speaker 2 (04:24):
But it just was never for me.

Speaker 1 (04:26):
I never liked the super white meat babyface. I wasn't
alive for Hogan as a babyface. I mean I was
for like the end half of it and like in WCW,
but that wasn't for me either.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
I liked the.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Anti hero like Stone Cold. I like the The Rock
and Rand Jorden and see him Punk and all these guys.
Sina wasn't my guy. That being said, I thought that
I would feel something about him retiring, And I've watched
plethora of interviews clips of his on Joe Rogan, on
Chris Van Vliet, on all the one he did special

(04:57):
with that broadcaster guy that w W is promoting for
like six weeks.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
I watched all these clips.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
Then I went on Instagram and I went on w's
Feet'm watching the throwback John Cena videos, him f viewing
Mark Henry If, viewing great Colleague, beating Omaga, revealing the
new Spinner title, all these things, and I feel nothing.
I feel nothing, And it's not even like the hatred
has gone too. It's not even like, yeah, Johnson doesn't
try And finally, like, if I say that, it's me

(05:24):
joking around. There's a clip that Bell Developed posted what
I kind of said, We're gonna have a pizza party
at your house and we're gonna like that's that's me
being an exaggerated version of myself. Me at the beer
like normal regular day, justin like, I feel nothing, like
I'm not upset, I'm not happy about it. I'm indifferent.
I have no emotional connection to John Cena.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Go ahead, well, let me talk to you as a
Scena fan and not not as RB I Actually, as
of right now, three days out, I have very little
emotion to anything. Like I've been watching the videos. I've
been watching the tiktoks, Instagram REOs clips, so people are
making I don't know, I'm not feeling it yet. Maybe

(06:08):
I'm just too far out. It's three days out. Maybe
the day of it'll hit me a little bit more,
but as of right now, there is nothing that is
making me think like, holy shit, it's seen as last
match and I.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Feel it in terms of it's gonna be a big
shift for the industry. No more John Cena, no more surprise,
no more surprise returns of John Scene.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Like I saw that clip.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
I even shared it to you, like I can't deny,
Like when he returned at that, I believe it was
money in the bank or SummerSlam, the surprised Roman that
pop was insane. I'm not gonna say Sina was never
Like all my beef for Sina's gone.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
I put it that post.

Speaker 1 (06:42):
I've put on that Like you know, I've seen Seena
more times this single year than I ever have any
other year of my life. And it was this retirement year.
And even though I don't like the guy, I've always
respected the guy. I would if I own a company,
I want a guy like John Cena to work for me.
I think it's an amazing work. I think I would
definitely hang out with Johnson and grab a bite with him.
I'd love to pick his brain. I think he's so interesting.

(07:04):
I watched all these interviews. I'm like, this man is
so good at propaganda, so good at not answering questions
but really given an answer, so good at just like being.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
So robotic and proper.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
That like the only show where he kind of felt
like he put his guard down or was chilling was
Joe Rogan.

Speaker 2 (07:22):
But every other interview he did it seemed like he
was being John Cena, telling the story his fault. He
spent at least twenty five years being the company man.
He can't just turn it off. You know, it's not
his fault. It's not his fault. And you talk about
not having emotion as well too. You just admitted as well,

(07:42):
how many times did you see Sena this year?

Speaker 1 (07:44):
So you've seen him showing were WrestleMania, Summer Slams survivor
says the Raw after Menia something like five times.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Yeah, so you're, of course your attachment is gonna be
little bit different, or your emotion going to his match
him a little different. But for those people that haven't
seen wrestle live this year, I mean I got friends
all over Canada as well that we talked about Sena,
and the guys that haven't seen him perform live, they
are obviously feeling a little bit more. I mean I've
even seen him twice now, So even for me, again,

(08:12):
maybe the build up isn't there. Maybe the day of
all these emotions are gonna kick in my childhood's gonna
flash before my eyes. I'm like, oh shit, you know whatever.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
Fifty and I understand, I like Seenah as a big deal.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
He is a big deal.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
He's I'm not gonna call him the goat, but to
many people, he is the goat. And I understand that,
and I accept it.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
To the disaggressionaire generation, right, a.

Speaker 1 (08:34):
Lot of the yeah, a lot of the people that
were kids during those years like that were ten, twelve, eleven,
eight years old and now like thirty, twenty three, twenty four, twenty,
like you know, the in the twenties. This was their
stone cold, This was their whole Cogan, This was you
know what I mean. This was their Staw Michaels, Brett Hart,
Macha and whoever you want to use. I don't think

(08:57):
he was a stone cold. I don't think he was
dear stone cold dude. I'm reading some of these comments
on w w's posts, like, oh my god, I remember
this moment. I remember, Oh that was so crazy when
you beat up like to us we were teenage and adults,
when you beat up the nextus. To some kids, that
was stone cold coming out there and stunnering everybody it's
not the same. But someone said something to like, there's

(09:19):
a there's a thing on Twitter that actually pissed me.
I remember, and it was an nWo segment, And I
get it. All wrestling acting is cheesy, even so I
Sena's cheesy. But there's a segment where Sting dropped a
dummy and then the real Sting popped out after all
these fake Stings came out, and someone quote you being like,
thank god I grew up on John Cena. This acting

(09:39):
is so cheesy. That's how John Sena's cheesy. Well, but
these kids are deluded or delusional because that's what they
grew up on, and that's what they that's there, Like,
I'm nostalgic for the nWo and Sting in Austin, guys.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
They're nostalgic for John c I'll tell you for a
guy who who wasn't a little kid watching John Cena
in that Rutus Aggression era. The reason I was a
big fan of John Cena is because when wrestling sucked,
he was the main guy and I never had a
yeah he was right, which obviously no one was disagreeing.
And I'm not even arguing that with you. With you

(10:15):
It's just I personally had nobody to watch in ww with,
so I just got I don't know, I just became
a fan of John Cena because he was carrying the torch.
So now as wrestling started to revive again, people started
coming back on board. You know, guys like the Rock
would show up, people would all they would say, and

(10:37):
obviously I would get annoyed as a wrestling fan. I
think that's why I became a scene fan too. No
matter what happened in wrestling, it could have been a
great Christ Jercho match, Kurd angle, or a Batista Wead
mysterious match, all people would talk about would be wrestling socks.
It was way better when Austin and Rock were there.
Like people were just so glued to that era that

(10:58):
they would not even give that wrest because it did.
It did start sucking when Sina was the top guy.
I think it started a little before that, you know
what I before that it was, I think I think
it really got bad for me.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I'm only see in my experience. Obviously, everyone was different.
Like I remember when I used to talk to Daniel
and he was very nostalgic for like two thousand and seven,
two thousand, Yeah, yeah, and he is really nostalgic for
like twenty two thousand and seven, two thousand and two
thousand and nine, and I was like, Daniel, those are
the years I could barely watch. I watched Raw every
Monday because I was on TV. I'd watch SmackDown if
I was home, and I'd watched the pay per view.

(11:32):
I'd watched Mania and Rumble that that season especially, but
I watched the pay per views sometimes, like I didn't
watch any Capital Punishment twenty eleven from start to finish.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
I only watched a lot of those pap per views.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
Once I finally got the network, and then I was like,
all right, let's watch Extreme Rules two thousand and eight.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
I tuned in just to watch wrestling, and because I
enjoyed it. I didn't. I didn't think it was better
than Attitude Era. It wasn't good as the early nineties,
even the early two thousand, but I just watched shit,
that's all. It was.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
My point is I feel like, I feel like you're
gonna like whatever you watched as a kid, that will
always be specialty.

Speaker 2 (12:06):
And then that that was my point of think.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
I thought it was bad in that time, but for
some people is the best time. We also said yesterday
when I was telling you about this whole Johnson, I
think I was actually also messaging another buddy or other
buddy Gavia earlier, and he was like, you know, same things.
I just don't feel anything. I'm like, I don't either.
I don't have no And it's crazy because I can say, oh,
maybe it's just Era. You can be like, oh, because
it's not awesome. I will feel I swear I will.

(12:29):
I felt something when Kurt Angle were tired, I felt something.
I knew Bautista was happening his last match at Wressell
Menia thirty five. I felt something when Edge came back.
I felt something. If Randy or Never retires, I'll feel something.
Kevin Owen, seth rollins, guys, anything is a force to retire,
or feels something, Punk leaves again, I'll feel something.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
I just don't feel anything.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Like I just like, I'm gonna go into this and
I will be like, oh, this is a big moment
in the history of professional wrestling, But I like, I
get it too, Like we're gonna have a whole weekend
of like and we've already started raw and smacked and
where they're having the rest is putting this guy over
and like Sino, what is it? But I'm like, okay,
as his colleague, maybe you do have a special personal

(13:11):
relationship with them that you feel that way about him.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
I don't even have a personal relationship with him.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
I would be biased towards Shamus and Gender and anybody
like Charlotte retiring because I've built a personal relationship with them.
They've helped me with my growing on my page, and
I've helped them, so it's different.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
I don't. I have nothing with Sina. I have no
connected with the guy at all. I think they've been
showing him a lot on TV too, like outside of wrestling,
so I think we feel like we're still seeing him,
and we're still gonna see plenty of them after the
show's over, you know, on movies and TV and what.

Speaker 1 (13:44):
And he has an ambassador, so you might And I
don't think he's gonna be cutting promos and stuff. I
do think you'll be doing like meat and greets and
stuff still.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
And I'm telling you also, which you know, I'm a
big Scena fan. He's probably my second third favorite wrestler
of all time, number one being Bred, number two, Sea.
I currently, as of this moment, have no emotion or
any feel towards the lead up right now, because there
wasn't a story told towards this, right, it was just

(14:15):
so a tournament that happened. The winner gets to face Sina, right,
And that's I told you earlier too. I don't I
never really cared for who the appointment was going to be.
We're tuning in for Sena's last match. But the fact
also is we're in a shitty month of December right now.
It's raining, it's dark, it's gloomy. I think people's energies

(14:35):
and moods are off, so maybe we're just not feeling
it currently as well. So we'll see you. I genuinely
don't care.

Speaker 1 (14:42):
Like I hate to say it, but I don't like
even if it's not even like I don't for you,
like you just want to see that, I just I don't.
I saw him live a Survivors Series and I was
like checked out, Like I wasn't like, oh my god,
his entrance.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
I was just Survivor Series. I was actually a little
disappointed the reaction he got after the match and during
the match, and even beginning the match. I thought the
crowd would be way more hot for Sina. I think
you don't realize that that's his final pay per view,
but it just felt like another match that's seen A
wrestled and that's it, and then he took I also.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
Think the interviews he's been doing has also made me
feel like, oh yeah, I'm not going to miss this guy.

Speaker 2 (15:17):
There's too many. He's doing too much stuff. Right now
he went again and he's got to promote it.

Speaker 1 (15:22):
But even ibu Fro himself made backup hang On on
Twitter was like, I can imagine seeing those in a
GUNT in four minutes and the opening hall Wani talking
about some and see it going on haw Wani or
something talking about some. The sounds of time are inevitable
and they claim everyone. I am no different in the
current stage of my life. I felt like it was
imperative for me to generate human feeling and link that
pass on to the next generation. Now and forever, GUNT

(15:44):
will be extra partly linked to that moment.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
I'm proud of that.

Speaker 1 (15:48):
That's a beauty of that's a beauty of this jazzy
at first cent, he's in big what's tapestry of this
entertainment medium? We got progressing this unique interpersonal synergy, Like
that's a way Scena talks.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
And you're just like that is like, well, like what
do you like?

Speaker 1 (16:02):
You didn't even answer the question, like address that. You
just made it sound like a beautiful thing.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
Well, he's gonna He's gonna give you the political answer, right,
he just and the promise too. The more they keep
showing Scena clips, the more I keep remembering how much
I disliked this guy. Yeah, well, I told you, what
are my favorite Scena moments? Always when he lost for
some reason, those were some of my favorite moments.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
I liked John Cena from two and I liked him
from two thousand and two to two thousand and five.
I will sit here and tell you that when he
beat jbl for the title, I was happy. I remember
being happy that both him and Batista won. I was like, Wow,
new era, let's go. I think wrestling was still fine.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Were facing off, You're like, shit, that's a new generation, right,
Randy Jordan and Sina Yeah, yeah, Like remember do you
remember that one?

Speaker 1 (16:45):
I think it was SmackDown versut to like the first one,
and they had a face off of Randy and seen
at the beginning something. No, it was like the first
SmackDown Versuill like before any of those.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
It was.

Speaker 1 (16:57):
It was a video package of them talking, and that's
Randy wanted whatever face. I was like two thousand and
four or five or something.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
I I liked him from two thousand and two to
two thousand and five. I actually really liked him in
two thousand and four two thousand and five, Like I
liked the basic thugonomics, him coming out there, rapping and
all that stuff, even though I do think it was
appropriation of black culture and they never had a black
champions so they made you gave me John Cena. I
also liked his theme song when he changed and he
was going for the title. I was off for something
about the moment he got drafted to RAW. I was

(17:25):
a bigger Batista fan and either taking Batista SmackDown on
like this sucks, and then he just became this guy
that was beating like Seaw Michaels and the Undertaker and
Chris Ben, Chris Jericho and Kurdak, Like he was just
beating everybody that I grew up watching, and I'm like,
ef this guy, We're like I felt about Sena probably
the same way fans in the last ten years that

(17:45):
grew up on Scena but were teenagers for Roman Raids
didn't like Roman Reigns because he was beating Triple H
and the Undertaker and all these John Cena Like he
was beating all these guys that you liked. Yeah, that's
how I felt about johnsna Is the same way these
people felt about Roman Reigns.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
The differ.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
For instance, Roman switched gears, became a heel, everybody went
to love him. Sena never changed, And that was always
my arguing about Sina. I'm like, outside of changing the
color of his shirts and going from a rapper to
a fake marine, he never changed.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
It was just the same, right that's on Vince like
man and whoever.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
No, I know that, and I was like, get older,
I understand that. I just I just did never liked it.
I didn't care if he got a reaction in the
fans of Channing. You go, Sina, Sina sucks. I just
never like, I can't And then I did, Like I
didn't mind Sena twenty fifteen forward. But I think you
pointed out to me one day, You're like, yeah, that's

(18:39):
when he like started showing up last, and I was like.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
Oh yeah, but I was just not I hate it.
I can't. I like, you know, like you probably have them.
I know, what is your favorite John Sina promo? I
don't have one. I never liked any of his promos. Cheesy. Well, no,
they weren't all cheesy. When him and Rock were going
back and forth, I think he won those battles as
much as people get upset, he beat the Rock on

(19:03):
those promos, and the Rock came back. I couldn't quote
you one line from those promos. Blow me how about that?

Speaker 1 (19:09):
I remember that now at the pinwell, but that's because
you said it. But I remember the Rocks promos the
little kid you can't see Me like? That show was funny,
foty pebbles and stuff. I blow me things that one thing?
What else did he say in those promos?

Speaker 2 (19:23):
That's all I remember.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
I'm trying to say, and I'm not I'm not a
bad I'm just saying, like, because all of his promos
were the same and be emotional, bring the crowded, start yelling,
all in this together and bring your.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
Back promo where he called out Roman Reigns. Listen, I yeah,
you ye say something good before you blow your push.
He's probably swat. He still is one of the best
on the mics of all time.

Speaker 1 (19:49):
He's confident as how want it so the promos, there's
a difference between confidenting best. Yeah, because if his if
if his whole things, he's supposed to pull emotion out
of you. He probably was pulling emotion to lose the
kids and never have friends and little children. But he
didn't pull any emotion out of me.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Well, of course not because you're not hustle loyalty in
respect what exact I have missed her hustle loyalty respect.
I think the reason I was obsessed with Sina were
those three words, hustle loyal.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
I was like, embrace it, Hey, please embrace it. Turn
it to Darth Vader, and it was it was. It
was so like fate, and it was so like like
it was meant to it happened. It was dasty that
I was there when you finally turned heel. Obviously didn't
play out as we wanted it to, but like at
least I was there for that because all I wanted

(20:42):
to see back in like twenty twelve.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Turn this matter into a bad guy. I remember when
he fought the Rock at WrestleMania. I watched it with
like fifteen other guys. I was the only guy cheering
for John Cena.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
What are your favorite JOHNSONA matches?

Speaker 2 (20:57):
I don't have any. If I you.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
Sina when I stand yeah and that And that's my
other point. Any match I like to see it is
because I was a bigger fan of the other person.

Speaker 2 (21:10):
I was a bigger RBD F.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
I was the bigger Kevin Owins fan. I was the bigger,
bigger punk Fall.

Speaker 2 (21:18):
Truthfully, like a lot of my favorite matches were when
he lost, Like I'm they were just enjoyable A j
styles when you fought him, that was great. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
I'm just saying I don't feel anything. I watch all
these clips and I know everyone's in the comments. Sac
That's the other thing that.

Speaker 4 (21:39):
On Saturday, it's gonna be you, me and like fifty
fans and we'll just watch watch the show.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Dude.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
I sat there and I was like watching all this
what do you want to read? And I was reading
the do you want to cry? Do you want to
get emotional? Like know that I should care care about what?

Speaker 2 (21:56):
Though? What do you want to I don't care you
do care a little bit. You're talking about it, so
you do care a little bit. Because we need content.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
I feel like this would be a good topic to
talk about how I don't care about John seen him
because I've been so nice this entire year. I even
put a little tribute video up to him, ending with
him Gonna Kick to the Nuts by Live Morgan, and
I came to peace with that he's leaving, and I'm
okay with him.

Speaker 2 (22:17):
I'm a little happy.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
That a little easy to because he's been gone so
much the past few years, like he hasn't been here.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
We don't.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
But I'm just and I think that's part of it too,
Like I think he's smart enough to realize the ship
has sailed and he's not the guy no more.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
No well, I mean you watch him in the ring.
He he doesn't perform that well unless he's got someone
to carry him.

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Now, right, He's how bad with the last couple of
years matches against Solo and Austin theory.

Speaker 2 (22:42):
They were trash. But you know what, this year, you
got to give it to him. The matches haven't looked bad.

Speaker 1 (22:46):
Though he popped off. He popped off, but even myself.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Like when he got squashed by the Undertaker. I was like, man, like,
what retire? Right? Like even myself, I was thinking, like,
this guy's got to go now, like, he's not going
to get a seventeen title, And unfortunately it didn't work
out the way we wanted. When he turned heel, we
thought we're getting new haircut, new shorts, new theme song,
new t shirts, but that that didn't happen as well.

(23:10):
So I didn't mind.

Speaker 1 (23:12):
I didn't mind the presentation with the black billboard and
just being like that. It was more so the rock
thing didn't work out and it wasn't if Now looking back,
I know everybody was debating at the time, is this
bigger than when Hull Covid turned heel? And I can
proudly stand on the opinion that nowhere it wasn't because
it sucked at the end of it.

Speaker 2 (23:33):
Yeah, the long term, the long did not panel. But
at that moment it was. I had friends that didn't
watch wrestling that tuned into say, oh shit, SA kicked.
It was a big moment. It was over. It was
more than big. It was a massive moment. It was
a massive moment, but it didn't change a business like
the n W, not at all. I think regardless whether

(23:53):
he turned.

Speaker 1 (23:53):
Heel or not in this run now, like it would
have been a big deal that he's retiring this year
and they would have had the same amount of business
because he's retiring this year.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
I've had a lot of people that are know that
actually haven't even watched anything after Wrestledia because they were
just disappointed. They like they have no idea what's happening.
And you saw the Logan Paul thing that he said about.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
About why Travis Scott ever came back like he's no
show and just kind of was like whatever about everything?

Speaker 5 (24:19):
Right?

Speaker 2 (24:19):
These guys are all bullshitting at this point. What do
you mean they're all bullshitting? We all are? They all
are what he said, Travis Scott was scared wrestle and.

Speaker 1 (24:29):
He's just no showed, you know, He's like, I think
it's probably because he didn't realize how real it was
and that like you're putting your body through Payne and
the MAT's not made out of like a trampoline soft Matt.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
I just think he just didn't of ship.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
I know other other artists I know, Travis Scott was
just like he's a flaky on everything. Even in real life,
like he's a great artist.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
I mean, he took the Cody Roads. What's a what's
the finish it all man? Cody Cutter cross, that's a
thing too. I think Cody cut doesn't move too and
he does. He took that really well. He took it
really well.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
So anyways, this isn't an episode of trast and john Sena.
It's just me event about my feelings because I was
just literally this is just you looking back here, and
to keep telling me you don't care. That's what I'm
looking back. I don't even know I could have done
this by myself. I don't even need you here.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
You care? Trying to make you keep telling me that
doesn't matter that I don't care. It doesn't matter. I'm
the wrestling classic.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
My opinion mettle, my opinion matters, and I am a
voice of the population of this fan base that doesn't
care because they do exist.

Speaker 2 (25:35):
There's a group of fans like me that have sit
there being like good riddance, and there's a lot there's
a group of fans I don't care about sampunk and.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
I what does that happen?

Speaker 2 (25:44):
That has nothing to do with anything seampunk? All right,
I'm gonna have no emotion when he leaves. How about that?
I had so much emotion when he came back twice. Well,
I had emotion when he came back twenty maybe twice twice.
When he leaves, I'm not gonna here because my best
Seena memory of this year is you seeing Sina. Otherwise
like that, and I'll admit the Heilton not be number two.

(26:07):
The Heilton was. Yeah, well that was my favorite movie,
Pa Turned Heel, so that was cool. I think if
I didn't see Sina all year and I got to
go to his last match, I would have felt something
more because I've seen him twice already. I feel like
I've got in my closure on this guy. I've got
to see him wrestle. That's what I was missing personally.
I've seen him wrestle. I'm happy, I'm content he can.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
I just think I just think I wasn't a Sena fan,
so like, it's just not like I said, I go
back on ww is going hand posting clips And the
only thing that made me go like yeah was when
the Doctor Thuconomics they put the entrance video up, like yeah,
this is the time I have him beating Mark Henry

(26:52):
or unvealing the title or coming to raw anything.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
I watched a video of him coming around. I'm like,
I hate it this day.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Okay, but when did SCENEA come in from what?

Speaker 6 (27:02):
What?

Speaker 2 (27:02):
Year? Two thousand and two, so two thousand and two
to what? What was his peak? Twenty sixteen? Peak? Like,
what do you mean by peak? Like when he like
when when did he kind of start feeding off?

Speaker 1 (27:12):
Like twenty sixteen, twenty seven, twenty sixteen, twenty sixteen, because
I did the feud, We did the feud the day
and then they did the draft. He was unsmacked it.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
In life, what were you doing from twenty two to
twenty sixteen? You graduated? What like a couple of years
after that? Then what did you do? No?

Speaker 1 (27:27):
In two thousand and two, I was in elementary school.
I was in great sense. In two thousand and nine,
I graduated. That's what I mean, though, you understand all
my adult life to twenty sixteen, what what were you doing?
I'll tell him the rest building the Wrestling Classic. You're
dating a girl that I did not like that twenty fourteen. Yeah,

(27:49):
so like those other guys, because those nine I was
going to school dating your girl.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
Yeah, So I don't think wrestling was that important that
those like first four or five years of No, I
will tart you right now.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
The two thousand and seven eleven I did, I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah, you missed on a lot, you missed on some
good Jubby songs, some Hindi songs.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
No, that was two thousand and eleven to twenty eighteen,
the Pundubby songs also, then you switched.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
Back into wrestling.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
I guess, yeah, yeah, so I think you. I just
became a big Beatles and classic rock guy for those years.
I moved to South Surry white rock, and my personality
change from my he's a factor in here too, Like
you got to think about those years that you know,
But it doesn't matter. None of those plays I found.
But I still watched wrestling the entire time. I never
stopped watching wrestling. And the shitty part about it is

(28:33):
the one show I did watch for sure every week
was Monday Night Raw, and that was the show Johnson
was on. I wasn't watching SmackDown, Jeff Hardy, seem Punk Batista,
all these other guys like.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
You also said Jeff Hardy does nothing for you.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
No, Jeffarty, No, I didn't say he doesn't do anything
for me.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
I just I don't relate to Jeffardy.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
I like Jeffery, a Jeff Party fan, but I don't
think that I cared about Jeff Harty as much as
I realized other people care about Jeffardy. John Seene, I
legitimately did not Like I thought. He was like a
plain white piece of wonderbread, like a slice of bread.

Speaker 2 (29:08):
That's what he was to me. And he would change,
he would change the colors of his clothes. And he
was really good for the children. He was like Barney
like he was for the kids.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Little kids want to see Mickey Mouse.

Speaker 5 (29:23):
Like you know, just is what it is.

Speaker 2 (29:24):
When you rode with the chain Gang, you had to
ride with that till the end. And I didn't. I
wrote with the chain Gang. And then he started doing
he started doing this, and I took.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
My chain off and I said, this guy's trash.

Speaker 7 (29:39):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
That's your opinion. My opinion is.

Speaker 1 (29:42):
And then there's so many people. There was Edge, and
there was Randy or Wrestler. There's Daniel O'Brian, and there's
all these great wrestlers.

Speaker 2 (29:51):
Chris Jercho more beyond just him being a wrestler, his
theme song was so cool.

Speaker 1 (30:00):
I don't know what there's a they tried to putting
that view up like twenty five johnsos walked out.

Speaker 2 (30:05):
I'm like, this was junk. Get this trash out of here. Yeah,
so I think there's all little things.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
It's Johnsona's greatest WrestleMania match. For me, it's it's a
five life on house because I didn't give a crap
of either one of them matches against the Rock.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Did I like the build up? Yes, I didn't give
a crap about the matches. His greatest match again was
probably Rock Racina number one. I don't care about it.
You guys walk fifty people about watching it. I didn't care.
You're telling me, well, that's because you were but hert
Team Punk wasn't the World Tinda match. Probably No, that
wasn't next Stress telling me you weren't even a little

(30:41):
bit excited to watch scene Verus Rock in the main event,
like at all.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
You were just like, I'm gonna turn it all. I
don't even care to watch, but like not even to
get me in trouble. No, no, what was your opinion
on I'm also not the biggest rock fan. I'm just
not I'm not a big rock fan. You know what
I liked about the Rock is his character and his promos. Now,
I can give you rock matches that I like. But
if you asked me twenty twelve, justin what are your

(31:04):
top five favorite rock matches, I'm like, all the one
with Austin and that's it.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
What about when man I quit match? Huh? Like, No,
I didn't. I didn't have an opinion like you.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Gonna like I was a kid though, But you're telling
me you weren't even excited or like, No, I was
excited he came back, and I excited that he was
dragging John Cena and the promos and it was like,
finally he.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Came back in twenty fourteen whatever he was no.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Twenty eleven, he came back. I know, but I didn't
care about like watching the match. I never looked at
Rock as.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Like, which match? Did you care about? Telling me? Which
a match you can Jericho fucking trash that's in the.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
Worldress Jericho, Yeah, was a bigger match than Uh Sina
versus Rock.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (31:49):
Shoot Undertaker face that year, Well, you.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
Were tuning in to wrestling Classic Undertaker of his triple
h and the hell in the cell come on right
end of an era that was that was that match
was trash, wrong or I was so invested in the
story Sean Sean Live, You're like, what the hell I was?

Speaker 1 (32:16):
So it was almost as good as I'm sorry, I
love you like That's what I felt in that match
all through those guys.

Speaker 2 (32:26):
This is the end of the bet. You watch that
match live, That match was trash. It was great merutality.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
You don't think it was sick when like Sean superkick
Taker and hit the pedigree, He's still kicked out, crying no.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
You know, I yeah, but you know I can tell
you that spot. I can't tell you spot on Rock
and I can't. I don't know what. I only those
famming finishers on each other. I remember that. I remember
the Rock got hurt. That's okay, you don't have to remember,
but you remember. I don't like you're trying to convince
me that I did care. I don't.

Speaker 1 (32:56):
I just I don't like it's I wanted to come
on here and be civil and just be like, I
feel nothing for John Cena in his retirement, and you're
bringing out the hatred back.

Speaker 2 (33:04):
I said, the hatred's gone. It's over. The beef is over.

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Speaker 2 (34:13):
Oh list in real too. I'm telling you, in this
current moment, I have no emotion. Maybe it's because it's
almost nine pm a night, and it's dark, it's raining,
And there's a reason we did this podcast virtually because
we don't want to drive in the rain in the dark.

Speaker 1 (34:26):
But let's wake up at ten am for our other show,
a belt about which Tara Zepp would be as because
you can show up.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
To work, Sarah Zepp for me getting me off talking
about aw.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
You don't want to talk about Hayman Page and someone
with Joe and and Harley Harley, Harley Quinn and Cameron
Quinn and Willindale.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
In the background while I was making food too, was
there was there a world title match?

Speaker 1 (34:55):
Like Mitchell not Mitchell, not Michell At the end, was
that okay, okay, I to something. I just didn't swerve,
and Hangman had a tag match against Hobbes and Shabata
and my, my, my prediction is you were thinking that
Hangman's still the champion for a second.

Speaker 2 (35:11):
No, I knew okay because Hanging Hanging Man was the
middle of the show.

Speaker 5 (35:16):
No.

Speaker 2 (35:16):
I just saw some ojo fighting. I was like, oh, look,
here's another mid card world title match. I don't know
when to end it again. I saw the girls on
the tag team title and speed Boy Mike Bailey defeated
Kyle Fletcher. What h listen. I don't want to love
in this tournament. I'm not gonna say anything bad because

(35:39):
I want Tony Con to invite us to a W.
All right, we're invited. I can get us invited. I'll
try to be kind Tony kN just pay us and
I'll support a W. But I almost I'll be for
John Cena. I'm probably not excited right now. Saturday, I
will be. I got friends coming over that excited for Sena.
We'll probably emotional. We'll probably go quiet for a little bit.

(36:03):
You're just gonna be knowing, Hey, look at you're using
cry loser. That's all I'm gonna do so just give
us our moment. I might have to watch that by
myself and then that's it. Life goes on. Then you
just accept it and then you move on and on too.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
That it was like a how because we had this conversation.
But there's a love of excitement that he's gone. You
know how long have waited for this?

Speaker 6 (36:25):
Good for you, Good for you, bris a tear to
my eye, retired. I'm so happy for you that you
had the eras of him just beating everybody because I
want what you know what the worst moment was.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Let me tell you one of the worst moments of
my life, guys, one of the most trash, just like despicable,
disgusting moments.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
Of my life. When I came on to your podcast.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
It was two thousand and eight and it was the
World Rumble and the final guys in there were like
Batista and Triple Ah and I was so hype, like, yeah,
Triple Batista are.

Speaker 2 (36:59):
Gonna win this, and no, they're doing a countdown thirty.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Okay, here we go, Ted and Johnsino came out to
do this dumb little stance and his little all I'm
back when he's supposed to be injured for eight months.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
He came back on like three.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
That was one of the worst days of my life.
I watched that rumble and I was so mad. Do
you want to know another one of my worst days
of my life?

Speaker 2 (37:16):
I'll tell you that much.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
Huh. Let me tell you another night that e Fin sucked. Okay,
let me tell you another night that I Fin sucked.
There was a night all right and two thoy thirteen
We're Dwain beat cum Punk for the world title and
John Cena won. There were a rumble wa. I was like,
I thought this was once in a lifetime. What the

(37:40):
fuck are we doing this again? I was living pasted
number three time. I was really pissed off. Brock Lesner's
back Baby twenty twelve F five's John Cina brock Lesner's back,
and you know what happened in the first pay per view,
brock faced John Cena. John Cena won and announce that
it was Alma Bin Laddin's been dead or something, maybe

(38:01):
a'll Saddam Hussein.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
I don't remember, But why did John Cina win? And
then he said he let me take you?

Speaker 1 (38:07):
And then even but no, maybe that wasn't the one
I think he'd beat Brock and he said, hey guys,
I'm gonna go get a divorce. I'm gonna take some
time off. I need to figure out my life, and
then showed up two weeks.

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Later, piss me off.

Speaker 1 (38:20):
Fourth time, this guy, man, you are my memories of
John Cena, not the matches, not the poles. Then there
was this time when John Cena where the Nexus came
in right, and I was like, oh my god, twenty
ten wrestling was so boring. Everything was kind of bland,
like everything was kind of dying out straight at society.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
Wasn't that cool anymore? Like wrestling like TNA was killing.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
It in two thousand ten not be and Sina's wrestling
seem fun from the main man. The next has come
out and like holy shit, like these tearing up the ring,
that doing all this stuff off all the momentum. And
then they go into Summer Slam and scene as the
last guy left with him in the elimination match, and
he beats him like three and twenty beats them, and
then he doesn't whole situation. We never drops about the

(39:01):
way Barrett. Then he does his match where like if
he hits Barrett something he gets fired.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
He got fired. They did a whole.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Walking backstage shaking everybody's head senas goodbye and I know, okay,
I'm not dumb, and we didn't actually get fired. But
you know how they resolved the situation, not that he
had to earn his jaw back or join the next
is to get back in some like.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Long term creative storyline.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
No, he just sorted attacking them at the hotel rooms
of shit and tell somebody's like.

Speaker 2 (39:25):
Oh, John Cena, you're back. The stupidest shit in the world.
But that's people's childhood that they love and adore. This man.
Oh okay, I'm back. Did you know I pause my
screen there for a bit.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
No, I thought you just really look and I'll just
listen to you.

Speaker 2 (39:39):
Yeah, you just hate the guy. I get it. You
hate the guy. What do you want me to say.
I'm not I'm too old to try to convince you
to like this human being. I don't hate him. It's fine.
You don't have I don't we complete each other your
own men, You don't have to like the guy. We complete.
Me and John Cena complete each other. You are John Cena,
that's the best part. You are. John.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
A couple once when I'm on somebody else's podcast, I'm giving.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
The like I've become John Cena, and that's what you
hate him like, and that's what.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
You're see him pong being like, you're the Dynasty now
justin you become everything you.

Speaker 2 (40:13):
Ate no longer. You're no longer the Boston Red Sox.
You're the fucking New York Yankee.

Speaker 1 (40:20):
You are.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
You are the New York Yankees, and the Boston Red
Sex are big deal too. But you became John Cena.
I think that's what really really annoys you. You became
who you didn't want to be.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
I'm a baby outside of John Cena. I'm a baby
basis with every other aspect of my wrestling opinions to
my audience, at least at least tell my audience with
everything else I say, even if they disagree with me,
and I say a lot of things people disagree with,
like I was a huge ass Carmela fan. Not everybody
agree with that initially, Uh, most people, and a lot

(40:49):
of people don't like MJF and a lot of people
don't like See Himpunk, But they won't argue with me
about it. They'll say their piece and move on. John
Cena is the only trigger where people will be like,
f you, just I can talk shit about Omega, Ocotta
anybody else in this industry and be like, this is.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Why I don't like him.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
I think Ocada is lazy right now, or Occatt is
not the same, or Omega's not the same as he's
a new dream.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
And don't be so bad as I. They might be like, oh,
he has a point.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Maybe I talked negatively about John Cena and people like
I gotta unfollow you. I can't believe you think this.
This has gotta be trolling. No, I mean every single word,
this is not trolling. I do respect John Cena. I
got to see him more times this year than I
ever have any other year of my life. Every other
year probably seen him one time or two times or

(41:38):
something like five. I can see Sina now all five hands.
I put him down. I saw him five times. I
can see him, and I understand it's a big deal
for the industry. I understand his colleagues and people that
worked with him that were close to them will be sad.
I don't base my opinions about how people that personally
feel about no one feel about him, like of course
he's gonna you know, other peopeople in the industry are

(42:00):
gonna cry because they actually know him.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
I don't know him. I'm a fan. I have had
no actual interactions with John Cena compared to a lot
of the other wrestles. I can say I've had interaction.
I don't want on crying either. I mean, I don't
know what you expect from me. I'm just gonna watch it.
I'm enjoy it. I'm like, I'm thank you.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
You're gonna cry, They're gonna shut it here. You're gonna
be like, hey man, i gotta go fix my and
then they're gonna disappear for the class.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
I'll do it. Thank you Sina, you know, in my
head aloud because you'll be there, so I don't want
to say it out loud.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Oh thank you Sina. Yeah, I'll do the chat with
my listen man, my propaganda ask. I'm gonna put a
post up right app he's retires being like, thank you, Sina.

Speaker 2 (42:37):
Coorse you are, You're gonna do the rest in class
and things. I'm John Cena because I'm John. You're John
Cena social media, that's exactly.

Speaker 4 (42:44):
What you are.

Speaker 2 (42:47):
And I'm like cheating but I'm telling you, man, I'm
gonna wrap this up because this is just USh talking,
going and circles now. But I don't know that this
is you. I'm not cepan ship talking. You're just upset.
You're just not upset. I'm just saying you'retiring. You're upset
that he wrestled your upset that he was a child.
I hated this. I hated this, Okay, I just he's

(43:10):
just not my guy. No one asked him to be
here guy, So it's all right, so lame right, It's
all right, man, that's sorry. See him punk cage, cupcakes.
Just remember that.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Muffins.

Speaker 5 (43:26):
I don't know, man, the belt spin it like, do
you remember this? Do you remember this at all? I
can't see you from the arm wrestling much. Yeah, with
Mark Henry, Like, I don't remember this.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
I don't remember that.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
I would actually like, and this is how messed up
I was. I would actually change a channel on Johnson.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
You know you wouldn't. I did. This is for internet clout,
and I know I literally did, because I don't remember that.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
I don't think I've ever watched that segment in my life.
I built the wrestling class called barely barely posting John Cena.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Clips that is impressible.

Speaker 1 (44:05):
I tugonomics clips I did like the raps with him
spanking Stephanie like I posted that song. I'm not gonna lie,
but I barely posted any like two thousand and seven,
eight nine ten, John Cena clips I did.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Yeah, well, I can't really really relate to the young
kids either. And my favorite sena was the rapper when
he said things off limit making fun of Stephanie McMahon,
eminem you know, John Cena, that's what he was.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
He was the best one. Yeah, this actually made me pop.
And I was going through the last night. I'm like, oh,
this made me feel something.

Speaker 2 (44:39):
And I think me being a sports guy, the fact
that he were like getting sports like this is the ship.
So one.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
No, his current one is sick. I will never I
remember when he came out to WrestleMania to that song
for the first time, and I'm like those and just
like a person that likes music, this is nothing, John Cena,
I'm a those trumpets are sick.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Oh this is cool.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
And do you remember at the very beginning, there was
like that little and it was like this little build
up before the trumpets hit like they kind of got
rid of it as he was going on, but like
there's a little like I was like showing him.

Speaker 2 (45:15):
Then like that was the best. Yeah, any beat boxing
man that's walking crazy was that was the best. That was?

Speaker 4 (45:22):
That was?

Speaker 2 (45:22):
I listened.

Speaker 1 (45:23):
So that's a John Cena memory if I was, what's
some of my favorite John Cina matches?

Speaker 6 (45:27):
I like.

Speaker 2 (45:29):
Has a lot of memories and moments of John Cena.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
You yeah, trauma, you've heard of trauma.

Speaker 2 (45:37):
I might ever go to Baldi after this retirement. I
think you can go scream and cry and I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
Have to see a therapist. Like that man ruined my life.
He ruined wrestling for me so much that I had
to make I had to make a wrestling page based
off of nostalgia to find my love again.

Speaker 2 (45:54):
No, No, all you need is some shows, some dim lights,
and probably some pizza. You'll be okay. And it was
because johnsona hortime is a Saturday. Yeah, Justin I'll care.
And if Justin I care, because I'm glad it's you
might actually do a solo episode just about Sea.

Speaker 1 (46:12):
You know, like that whole quote where it's like, don't
be sad because it ended. Just be sad because it happened.
Oh no, like because no, don't be don't don't be
something I fully butchered. Like, don't be sad that ended.
Just be glad that it will happened.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
To be sad because it was over. Be happy because
it happened. I'm like the opposite. I'm the opposite. I'm
sad that it even happened, but I'm very glad that
it's over.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Now we can tell the man because like I just
like wow, like it's finally like we can officially say
it's anywhere on wrestling.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
The John Cena era is over all these guys, all
these era was over a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
To me, every time he showed up, I was like,
he just want the seventeen. He just won a seventeenth title,
just a second title.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
I don't feel like we were ever in the John
Cena era. In the last three to four years. It
was a Roman reigns era for me. I never felt
like it was anything with the senior era. Even this
we know in this final year he won, but like
he's only been showing up for a limit amount of time.
The shows weren't still revolving around.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Sina Nastlemania thirty four, Cody thirty four he was squashed
by Taker.

Speaker 2 (47:24):
Yeah, that already live.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
In thirty five he just showed up and as Dagnomics.
I forget who he beat up Elias I believe, so okay,
so I remember that because I did, like I was like, oh,
doctor Thagonomics, let's go. Thirty six was pandemic Bray thirty
seven he didn't wrestle, right, thirty eight was Austin thirty No,

(47:52):
thirty nine was Austin thirty thirty eight was thirty seven
and thirty eight.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Did you wrestle on time? I know he didn't wrestle
thirty seven and thirty eight.

Speaker 2 (48:05):
He fought Austin thirty No, that was thirty nine. That
was in La I was there.

Speaker 1 (48:10):
Thirty seven and thirty eight.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Thirty six he fought. He didn't fight in thirty seven.
Thirty eight? Wow? Was that Tampa?

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Tampa was thirty seven? That's because they did. They were
supposed to Tampa pandemic closest, so they did the next year.
That's where that doesn't mean a Sasha Bianca and then
edge Ling at thirty two either, No, he didn't, but
he came out and he saved the Rock from the
White Family.

Speaker 2 (48:32):
I was there. Oh, I'm actually surprised you never got
upset that bray Way never beat him at Wrestlmingia either.
I feel.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Like he did in the in the Firefly finals, because
I don't it wasn't a match. But like if you
said who won the mind Games, it was bray Wyatt,
I guess so, But I was upset he didn't win.

Speaker 2 (48:54):
That thirty Yeah, but you not being a Senif fan,
you don't want him. You want to see the guy
win anyway, so it doesn't really matter.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
Never I've never want to see him win.

Speaker 2 (49:03):
Yeah, so who cares like you're rooting I never was
rooting for him.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
I'm trying to like great stopt me think if it
was ever a time I was rooting.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
For him, I'll tell you the hardest ever rooted for
this guy?

Speaker 1 (49:14):
Ye post two thousand and five, I mean post because
I was wating for him. Maybe on two thousand and
five you didn't. You just hated him ever since. Maybe
Survivors There is twenty fourteen when Sting debut and he
was on the team. Was Siggler against the authority, Like
maybe okay, I never rooted for him against guys like
Triple Ah Sean. I was always reading for those guys
because I grew up with them. It was just a bias.

(49:36):
Did not root for him against the Rock because the
Rocks till my childhood.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
What about when he fought Big Show. That's two thousand
and six, No, that's two thousand and when he fought
Big Show at Edge. Oh you mean two thousand and four.

Speaker 1 (49:50):
Yeah, yeah, rest me twenty like I once again, I
said two thousand, two thousand and five. In the end
half of two thousand and four, when they were building Johnson,
I actually like John Cena before that.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
I liked the rapping gimmick and whatever. Like we all
like we became Seena fans, and some of us stuck.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
Because that's how they that's how they condos.

Speaker 2 (50:10):
They did, and then half the guys like you like
jumped off. They're like, yo, screw this guy. And guys
like me got bought into the exact same.

Speaker 1 (50:18):
Thing as the Roman thing. Because people liked Roman when
he was in the Shield. It is when they tried
to push him as the top guy, then people didn't
like him more.

Speaker 2 (50:25):
I was one of those guys.

Speaker 1 (50:27):
Then people and I was one of those guys. I
always liked Roman, but I did always accept and Dean More.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
I liked Shield Roman, I hated heel or babyface Roman,
but I loved the tief. I never just liked Roman.

Speaker 1 (50:41):
Both have because but once again, that's how because I
was older now and I wasn't a teenager. I was
in my twenties and I was doing the wrestling Classic thing,
and I was like, I saw it differentely. So once again,
like maybe I would have saw seen it differently if
I wasn't a teenager in his prime.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
That's another perspective. I just didn't mind him.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Yeah, because you were a little bit older me, so
like you're.

Speaker 2 (51:02):
Probably just like, oh, like I wasn't like obsessed with
Sina like I would have been like with Brad or
Scheleka you said as we were kids. Yeah, I wasn't upsessed.
So yeah Roman, I mean I got what a few
years on you, So when I watched it, I wasn't
like just like I wouldn't defense Sena like some of
these young kids are probably depending on Instagram, like he's
the greatest, send all be all. I think he's on

(51:24):
the Mount Rushmore. We've had this discussion as maybe the
four greatest, like you know you could. But again some
people argue that he's not on it because the Rock
should be on the Taker should be on it.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
And an objective in an objective like not my actual
personal opinion like Russ's that made the biggest impact on
the industry, you can't this guy held the guard down.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
For like twenty years. Hogan Sina Austin and I say
the fourth could be Undertaker.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
That's mine could be Undertaker. Or if you're old, you'll
say Bruno. If you're young, you might even say Flair.

Speaker 2 (51:52):
If you're old.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
Some guys and some guys have Rock in Austin and
Hogan in there, right, some guys don't even have Sena.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
They're like, it's a lot of people.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
I'm taking Hogan off because they don't agree with this person.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Who people have not us of course personally, you don't
have to have Hogan in there. Like none of those
guys I mentioned other than Seen are in my top four.
I got like Brad and like Dean Malenko and those
guys there. I told you in Bell the Bell seen
as in my top fifty. Maybe maybe hundred is crazy.
Maybe top hundred absolutely ridiculous top fifty. But you don't

(52:24):
like the guy, so you know, I don't dislike the guy.
I dislike the I'm just the fact that you just
have him in your top fifty. It's okay. I can
live with that. It's fine because it probably my top
seventy five.

Speaker 1 (52:36):
So it's crazy if a hat a top one hundred, seene,
that's probably.

Speaker 2 (52:41):
Number one hundred. You just said he's in your top fifty.
You know what, let me check.

Speaker 1 (52:47):
I'm not going to go because I said I'm not
going to go through the whole list, give me a second.
I want to see where I did play them a
long while ago, because I did do the list for
myself and I posted are.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
You telling about wwstlers at all? Too? Everybody?

Speaker 1 (52:59):
Everybody ever go watching? So this is my top twenty list,
right and I and I did it all the up
to like one hundred.

Speaker 2 (53:05):
I'm pretty sure. No, I'm gonna ask you if he
has ahead of these guys? Are not here about that
two hundred and one people here? You want to go to?
Number one hundred and two is John Cena? Come on?
And I didn't even edit anything. I didn't have enough
time to change anything. You know who's right above?

Speaker 1 (53:20):
John Cena, Fon Dongo, Fon Dongo, Bondongo, gold Dust, Ahmed Johnson, Hoover,
Tude Guerrera, Yoko Zuna, Brody Lee, Jeff Jared Ken, Shamrock,
Christopher Daniels, Dean Malinko, Christopher Dean Malinko, Bam Bam Bigelow,

(53:44):
Bam Bigelo, Rakishi Bruiser, Brody Umaga, Taz Miro, Bobby Miro, Versina, Yeah, Bobby.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
Rude, Lex Luger. Yeah. Do you know you want a
teen fan? Because you you really didn't pop up?

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Christopher Daniels, A Barker, are the Giant Shelton Benjamin, Christian,
Pete Dunn, Mustafa Ali, Kofi Kingston, Vampiro, Jinder mahal Ken,
You omega, you know these aren't all better than this.
Jake the Snake, Roberts, Drew McIntyre and Drade Champa, Ricky, Steve.

Speaker 2 (54:17):
Rode and Champa.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
You're ridiculous, man, Okada, I do need to redo this
list because this list is pretty.

Speaker 2 (54:23):
Horrible list, trash ass list. Man. I'm not those guys. No,
this needs to be redone. This needs to be like
you got this was.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
This was last edited in twenty twenty one, and I
honestly probably made this list to piss off Vic.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
You know what, Actually, Saturday, well after the Scena match
for ships and giggles, I'm going to make a top
hundred list. Do you know who's going to be crying
on Saturday? O kid?

Speaker 1 (54:51):
Vic, give me one second. What time is in the
West Coast East coast?

Speaker 2 (54:55):
Ninety one till twelve thirty one? See if he's away?
I said, my kid, and you said, Vic, I mean
by the same thing. Right, Oh my god, you're calling him.

Speaker 1 (55:04):
We're gonna wrap this up. It might be too late though.
He's working night shift at the gym. He's in a
mess of twil he'd you call his evne Okay, you're like, no,
Johnson is retired, Din answer three rings done. But he's

(55:25):
gonna cry. He's gonna cry ahead of his hand. I
guess we had some of the most heated arguments because
of Johnson.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
Yeah, I don't know. I'm a growing ass fan. I'm
happy that he was there. I'm not I'm not happy
that it happened. I'm glad that I'm glad I got
to see him in my journey of life.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
I I've become a lot more religious as pastor. I
think God is like a prank on me this year,
Like he put me there at the best times too,
Like I got to see him go face to face,
well see him pond, got to see him get archalled
by Rad Jordan Domine like most of the times I
saw John Clia besides WrestleMania when he won the seventeenth

(56:12):
or like pretty happy moments he turned heel like gods like,
I know you don't like this guy, but for his
last year, I'm gonna let you see a bunch of
things they're gonna enjoy. He's in turn heel, he's in
the face off against punk, he's archaoled by Rad Jordan.
He's gonna lose to Dominic. These are all things are
gonna like justin. But the one thing you have to
put up with is he's gonna win the seventeenth and
you're gonna.

Speaker 2 (56:32):
Be there for it. Well, maybe it's an each thing
at this point. I don't care, man, if you liked
him or not, it's all good. I'm not gonna have people.
I'm not gonna fight you over this. We've had worse
battles over pizza. We ended because that's what it's serious.
That's what it's serious. I wish you recorded that, right.

(56:53):
Imagine just trying to get me to argue, and I
didn't want to argue, but we ended almost everything because
of sausage.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
I've been mystage, my most peaceful, most shaunt the most hippie.

Speaker 2 (57:08):
Like Saturday, Well, we'll we clean those two pizza.

Speaker 1 (57:12):
That my most relaxed, most calm justin I've been probably
ever since, like the last two three years.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
And this guy brought.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
It because like you need to let out that bottle
of anger.

Speaker 2 (57:26):
Pizza got that pizza. We almost lost. This podcast is over.
The on location deals almost done. That was crazy. Uh
can you imagine the documentary And that's why they why
did they end the show? Like what was the breakup? Man?

Speaker 1 (57:44):
There's this playing and your wife comes on. She covers
the face, changes the voice because she doesn't want to
be exposed.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
To the deeper voice.

Speaker 8 (57:50):
Yeah, there was a company called Pizza Box. They sent
the wrong pizza and these guys spot I was there
first hand, and the crazy my kids started and she
walked away.

Speaker 1 (58:06):
She said the things that you thought we said and
blamed the hospitals.

Speaker 2 (58:09):
Her she's eight years old for people I don't know.
She's started almost walk. That's why I call her her
name b B.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Cord because she's already got that empty in her.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
Yeah. Well, I'm excited to watch Saturday.

Speaker 1 (58:25):
I'm not excited, but about not excited.

Speaker 2 (58:27):
I'm going to watch. I watched wrestling. Yeah, of course,
I think. I think you'll enjoy it because you'll be
around some Sena fans and you'll appreciate a little bit.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
And to wrap this all up, thank you Sina. You
raised a generation of children. Not me, but you raise
the generation of children.

Speaker 2 (58:44):
They probably have.

Speaker 1 (58:45):
Better murles than the rest of us. I grew up
with stone cold than everybody else.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
And you know, like the one thing I'll always give
him credit for is.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
When you think about the make a Wish thing, those
were kids that were on the dying days of their
life and their only wish was to meet John Cena.

Speaker 2 (59:06):
He made their life.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
He has some effect over people that people want to seem.
Like I said, one of my my first time, even
before he turned here, was you see John Cena for
the first time life. That was cool for me that
you got to see that, you know what I mean. Uh,
there was a time he was selling a book and
if you bought the book, he gave you a shout out.
I got a couple of shout outs to my nieces
and like they're not even nieces, like my little cousins,
but they're like so young they feel like nieces. But

(59:29):
I got shout outs for them, and they were like
showing their friends at school and stuff like. I appreciate
that John Cena was somebody that people looked up to
and he did a good job at it.

Speaker 2 (59:39):
I think that's the attachment to Sina because I think
when people went through difficult times, they just leaned on
the guy man. He was your hero for us. He
wasn't my hero. He's just the one I enjoyed watching.
Never anybody I leaned on. But I know people he
was your hero.

Speaker 1 (59:54):
And there's a lot of fat kids like Vic. Sorry, Vic,
I'm calling you out. There's a lot of facts like
that got in shape because they like jumps and they
looked up to him.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
Those three words or a few like well one never
give up was very a very powerful statement, and hustle
loyalty respect was that resonated with me out about the
wrestle world, but that resonated with me. It wasn't to
never give up. That was that was cool, but the hustle, loyalty, respect, truthfully,
that's what life was about to me. That's what taught
me to become the person who I am. So I

(01:00:28):
respect him for that. What I thought it was a catchphraise.
I thought it was like eat your vitamins and say
your prayers. I didn't. Yeah, I'm not the affected me
and I think because of that, I was always a
sene Offen and that that's what I mean, Like, my, my,
why am I a punk?

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
That's not because of punk's tremendous wrestling skills or anything.
He's a little slung that you know that. It's because
I related to see I'm punk. There was a point
where he was anti authority, talking a ship, and he
stood by his beliefs and values, even if that meant
he's gonna walk out of that company because he wasn't happy.
And I believe you do what makes you happy. I
always thought I saw John Scene as a sellout, a

(01:01:05):
company man, a flag waiver.

Speaker 2 (01:01:07):
I like people that believe in themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:01:09):
Do you know my favorite my favorite wrestlers walked down
at w W Savage Sasha Banks I love I love
people that. I love people that are passionate and stick
to the core, and that even if they're wrong, that
you have so much conviction that you actually believe in something.
And it doesn't sound like a catchphrase, it doesn't sound

(01:01:31):
like it was like a role you were playing. Like
these people genuinely are passionate and cared about something. My
favorite wrestles are the rest of the love wrestling. Not
that Johnson doesn't love wrestling, but a lot of it
seemed manufactured.

Speaker 2 (01:01:44):
The role and the role he was playing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
But like, hey man, that role worked.

Speaker 2 (01:01:49):
He did, and that was a business. And you know
me as well too. I probably hate anyone that is
a John Cena in real life. That's against in real life.

Speaker 1 (01:01:57):
And then I also think that John seen in real
life was a cool ass motherfucker.

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
We just don't know it.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Like he's way more chill and way way more cooler
in real life than we really know because we don't
know him personally.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
I want to meet that johnsona one day. Maybe one
day we will. We're only we know someone, but maybe
one day he'll let us meet him.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
My beefle is always just with the characters, never with.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
John thank you for sharing that. Yeah, this session is
now over a hundred bucks. You can't see me. Thank
you for being my therapist. I have to get this
off my chance before johnsona retires. And I don't hate you,
John Cena. I actually like you, but I actually like you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
Without you, the Restling Classic wouldn't be here because I
hated you so much.

Speaker 4 (01:02:44):
I'm just what he did, That's that's all. I'm just
appreciating the fact of what he did for me in
those years of wrestling, and he made me Wrestling Classic.

Speaker 2 (01:02:58):
He created, He made me to know that's what we did.
And he made me this fellow toy collector and turned
into the toy business. No one Scena figure eight one
Scena figure turned in about that. It was just it
was because of one Sina figure that I got that
I turned this whole thing into a business. So and
because you hated Seena so much, you turned this into
the Wrestling Crossert And not because I hate scene it

(01:03:20):
too much.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
It was because I loved wrestling and I felt like
I was falling away from wrestling, and this is how
I'll get seen a credit for it. At the time
I started the Wrestling Classic, Wrestling wasn't cool. People stopped watching.
It was the Sena era. I want to make wrestling
cool again. And it just happened to coincide with Sina
fading away a little bit twenty fifteen sixteen and the

(01:03:42):
shield and all this other cool stuff happening that it
worked out.

Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
And I think, and you hit it, man, because my
thing was because people didn't think Sina was cool. I
defended Sina because I wanted to be different and stand out. Yeah,
I just whatever, man, We'll see what happens out. The
man's rehiring. We're supposed to have a twenty minute.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
All my favorite Scenia matches were against guys that he
lost to that were my favorites, like you you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:11):
Will remember not matchall, always remember now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
And Sina will finally give up. No, we're to never
give up. Sina will finally tap and say I quit
and for the last time. And then he'll stand there
and people is thank you see that, and then and
then they're gonna cut him off like they did Goldberg
before he says talking unfuly right, this is what it's
going to be.

Speaker 2 (01:04:36):
The last time is now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
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Uh check out just Y Happy. We have to record
another to drop this weekend. Drop my interview with Otanga.
I just interviewed Mosche from the head Bang, which is
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out soon.

Speaker 2 (01:04:55):
By the way, great documentary. It was great.

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One last time and uh I'm down having I'm down

(01:05:31):
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