Episode 188 - Pink Strikes Back - Two Slips & A Gully

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Speaker 5 (01:47):
Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of Two Slips
in a Gully and we're a sight happier this episode
we were in the last one. I'm joined by Aaron.
How are you mate, mate?

Speaker 2 (01:57):
I am really really well and I won't give away
the surprise, but yeah, we're all pretty happy about about
this episode.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
And I've also got Glenn. Glenn has come back.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
How you doing.

Speaker 6 (02:07):
I'm back. I think it's almost been a year. I think.
I think the last one I was on was when
we were driving to the s CGS exactly one year.

Speaker 5 (02:16):
Yeah, life kept getting in the way, but as the
Jurassic Park movies alway said, it found a way to
bring you back.

Speaker 6 (02:25):
I can't do Jeff Goldman.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
So last week, obviously that we we had to talk
about the sky falling down. We're all probably a bit
sort of shell shocked at the response to the Australians
in Perth and just how good the Jaspit Boom. Indian
side was completely wipe the floor with us. We did
sort of say that, you know, a week before that test,

(02:51):
we were most pundits hatus winning for one. Well, you know,
they were very confident and we you know, we needed
to win Adelaide and turn it around, and that's exactly
what we did. It was a much better performance from
the Australian side, and the momentum that India has had
built up after the Gabbam has been well.

Speaker 6 (03:13):
And truly I did think the public and then just
the general cricket watching public did overreact a little bit.

Speaker 5 (03:21):
I think that's all that we get into it. But
I do think that's a lot largely to do with
the media cycle. They've got to beat it up, they've
got to get those clicks. So you see it in
England all the time that you know, if on half
for a day's play where they've been poor or the
worst thing ever, they come out and Harry Brook's score
of you know.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Love them again.

Speaker 5 (03:44):
And I think there was a bit of it in
there there. As we talked about in the last episode,
there were some fairly poor and sipid performances from some
of mainly the batting unit. You know, India played very well,
but we did say at the end of that episode
that Adelaide will be a line in the sand that
if we can bounce back and rally and put a
good performance on the board, we can hold the momentum

(04:06):
and bring it back into our favor and turn it
into a three test series so to speak, where we
play Gabba Sydney, Gabba, Melbourne, Sydney and we like playing
at the Gabba, and that's exactly what we did. So
we'll get into that and have a chat about the
second Test. We'll also have a chat about Super Coach
and Big Bash because it's that time of year again.
The Big Bash is going to start this weekend with

(04:27):
the Stars taking on the scorches. We've got our two
slips in a gully at Super Coach League underway, so
we're all ot our teams fairly sorted, guys.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
It's actually the first it's actually the first week and
I was in I could only actually put my team
together in fifteen minutes during my lunch break the other
day because I really wanted to get out there. I
probably spent more time coming up with ridiculous non diplume
than I did. Yeah, if you're in one of our

(05:00):
two strips in a gully leagues, you'll see some ridiculous
sounding German name on there. That's probably me.

Speaker 6 (05:08):
Wow, I just went pretty simple. I just called my
team the Slags.

Speaker 2 (05:13):
Yeah I didn't.

Speaker 6 (05:14):
I didn't go with Treek week this time. I've gone away.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Well yeah, that's disappointing to say the least. But anyway,
so we'll get into it.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
We'll have a chat about the Adelaide Test and where
we go from here, and then we'll get talking about
all things Big Bash and getting ready for the upcoming season.
So I hang around all that is coming up right
after this. So massive, massive turnaround for the Australians, a
comprehensive ten wik at victory at the pink ball Test.

(05:45):
As we're talked about in the end of the last episode,
we are undefeated in pink ball tests and we're really
lents on that expertise to level the series again. At
one one, I thought Mitchell Stark was incredibly unlucky not
to be Player of the match with Travis Head's massive
first inning score.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
What does a bowler actually have to do? I mean,
the guys look at his pink ball record has I
think he's got one man of the match in however
many it is. We don't win the way that we
win in those pink ball tests.

Speaker 5 (06:16):
Without Mitch Start I think you said career best figures,
it's for forty eight and really just set the game
up from there. Like the pressure was largely off once
we got that done. And then Marnus and McSweeney, who
you know, really both stood up when the pressure was on,
considering the conjecture about their positions of the side had
had some good scores Marnas sawing sixty, McSweeney seeing out

(06:40):
you know, Boomer and like under lights getting us through
to the next day. Once we were only two down
heading well one down headed sorry, heading into a daytime
session and we were what eighty so seventy runs behind.
At that point you really felt that Australia's got this
game well in hand. Now it's now Australia's going to lose.
They got all dight a bat under the sun, you

(07:02):
know that well enough. They might even declare have a
look at them on the lights. As it was, they
ended up being bowled out, But the same thing they
were bowled out gave India a crack under lights and
then they had them five five down, still needing what
forty runs or thirty runs to get just to make
Australia bad again. And I think that that's obviously very
much set up by the fact that Stark really took

(07:23):
the sting out of the Indian. The pressure of the
Indians could build by knocking that batting line up over
again for another really under passcore. I thought he was
for not. I think this whole series, Stark has actually
been really good that whole well.

Speaker 6 (07:37):
In Perth, like I mean, like I've been a fair
critic of eventual Stark because he you know, his RPO
goes up when he's not in form and he tends
to spray it. But like even in Perth he was
unlucky and he's found he's found a way to take

(07:57):
wickets when the ball's not swinging, and yeah, he's found
that stockball and his accuracy was was really.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
That's That's the thing that I've been really impressed with
with Starkey is that you know, I kind of get it.
His job is the big booming new ball in swing bowler.
He's going to pitch it up, you know, he's going
to get driven back past him a few times and
you're going to cop going at maybe four or.

Speaker 2 (08:18):
Five and the over it's fine to see if you can.

Speaker 5 (08:20):
Get that that pink ball that that new cooker barro
to swing and go through someone's gate. And he's largely
found a way to maybe just drag that length back
a little bit. Still challenge of stumps with that that
full ball and not go for as many runs and
then not also having that loose four ball that he
bowls every over. He's really worked in and been I

(08:44):
think reliable as well as Yeah, I.

Speaker 6 (08:46):
Think that's that's tactics, you know, like you used to
try and bowl a lot of wicket balls and over
now setting up he goes for the wicket ball and
then goes back to back to the plant, back to
the tight line.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
I actually think we need to give a lot of
credit to Yes, Mitch Stark was absolutely phenomenal. There was
no letoff and pressure. But was that bowling unit were
just superb Scottie Boland again doing what Scott Boland does,
come gets a few wickets for not very many runs
in Australia.

Speaker 5 (09:24):
He pat was brilliant in the second in English.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
Look that it was. It's actually interesting and it's probably
segueying a little bit away from from where we are
at the moment, but I want to reflect a little
bit on the preparation that these guys had. Yeah, I
you seriously have to look at the wisdom of the
way that cricket Australia, and probably given how player driven

(09:49):
and everything is these days, at the players themselves. I mean,
clearly in Perth, our attack was well underdone. Probably everybody
was well the dungers, nobody had really been playing, and
he read well cricket.

Speaker 5 (10:03):
I don't necessarily think the attack was well underdone. I
thought Cummins looked short of a gallop. I thought Stark
and hazel Wood were exceptional at Perth, to be honest.
And then in the second innings when now batters hadn't
stand up, India battered without any pressure. In that second
innings they did very well to get through the new
ball without losing too many wickets. I mean, we got

(10:24):
on a roll early in the first innings and then
those those opening like Joycewoll and ra Haul got stuck
in and got them the platform. And once they got
to that platform, you know, the wicket had started a
flatten out. It had been under the sun for a while,
you know, the balls starting to get soft now, and
the batsmen we were able to bad a bit more freely,
and then it suddenly looked like our bowlers weren't weren't

(10:45):
bowling well. But I thought, you know, even in that
that that next day, after that first initial burst with
the in the second innings, I thought that hazel Wood
and Stark were doing a good job of creating.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Chances that weren't in the hands, so you.

Speaker 5 (11:00):
Know, a misstime drive that would go over cover or
edges that would go over the slips, and they just
had a bit of luck on their side, no pressure.
So I don't think it's necessarily fair to say that
we were underdone. I thought Cummins especially looks under done well.

Speaker 6 (11:13):
He was well well short of his usual standard.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
But I thought Stark, by and large was pretty good.
I just think mostly what it was was that we batted.
They batted without any pressure in that second innings.

Speaker 6 (11:25):
Yeah, And I thought, because they battered without pressure in
that second innings, Josh Hazelwood was actually quite amazing. He
built about twenty overs, like I remember looking twenty overs
for thirty when there's no pressure on them.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, I just felt just as they just wasn't the
at times during that Indian second innings that they really
seemed to lack energy and like normally there'll be one
of them there who really really steps up and just
does something. But given the conditions, given everything that was

(12:00):
going on, it's understandable why they may have been a
little bit down. But again you've got to come back
to the preparation of these guys. I really don't like
this idea that we've got a lot of our key
players going into probably the second biggest Test series on
the planet, because in your Pakistani playing.

Speaker 5 (12:23):
It's not a great look when your captain can't get
any red ball cricket under his belt. But we'll post
selfies at Coldplay concerts and not saying that they can't
have a life. That's absolutely you know, I'm not one
of those guys ago. Oh, they shouldn't be allowed to
go there. People they get to go at that this
is a job. They're allowed to go and do things,

(12:43):
but it just is a poor look where you walk
out your peer underdone as the captain of your country.
And there was quite a big gap between the last
time that you played for your country and this time
and there was shield games to be played. You know,
you didn't even go and play any like grade cricket
in that was just it. Just if he came out

(13:03):
and took fiver looked awesome. No one talks about it,
but it's just one of those things that go when
you work out. When you work out this is how
we're going to do things, you run that risk that
you go, yeah, like it's it's social media. Everyone's got
access to You're going to be posting stuff on social
media and then go out and don't back it up.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
It's always absolutely and again I think the performance in
Adelaide is just delaying in the inevitable that we need
to really really be looking at the guys who we've
got batting for us. It's unfortunate that a lot of
them are coming to the end of their careers, but yeah,

(13:41):
some type of succession planning needs to be coming into
place now because they a couple of them look really old,
out of form. Just wasn't good that were bet they
were They were better in Adelaide. Marnus was better in Adelaide.
I have serious concerns about was it I don't think

(14:04):
that to me As an opening batsman, he looks at
half a step behind where you don't want to be,
and he's ended up playing a lot of balls again
that floor that he gets into his technique where he
gets the bat face on that angle's push, Yeah, squares
up and pushes out towards. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
That was a lot of the issues that we had
before he was dropped in twenty sort of nineteen and
the time.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
It's the that's the technical flour for him, the beggining.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
The takeaway from that though, is he's not going to
be facing Borner every test. So whether or not that
it's a case of this is a bowler that's got
his number and he's just got to work away through it,
or we are right like we're at the obviously at
thirty seven, there's lessusy to come than there is that
been behind, so they're going to call the curtains yet.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Whether this is terminal for his career or it's just the.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
Fact that you're run into a good bowler who's played well, I.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
Think it was.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
It's probably got enoughing to tank to you know, maybe like, look,
we're right near the end of this World Test champion cycle,
we've got two Tests against Sri lank Aarron Uzy has
you know, really improve on slower wickets and been one
of our better performing batsman's on turning tracks and could
be a big component to getting a series win over there.
We've then got the World Test Championship final, and you'd

(15:21):
think that he's being such a key part of this
group for this cycle that they will at least give
him then. And then not long after that, we've obviously
got the home Ashes winter, So I would be thinking
for any of those players that have got runs in
the bank, and I would say at this point Usman's
one of those, so Ouzzie's got runs in the bank.
Smith's obviously got runs in the bank. I can't see

(15:43):
any significant changes to that batting lineup for the established
players until the Ashes conclude, unless they call their own number.

Speaker 6 (15:50):
Would you consider maybe fiddling with the side a little
bit to get someone in once we've qualified, assuming that
we qualify for that World Test finally, I would have
to go take someone in the squad to Sri Lanka
and go, well, look, well I don't already.

Speaker 5 (16:13):
I would con certainly consider that, you know, obviously, the
last time that we've gone in Sri Lanka along to
the sub continent, we've had Travis Head open the batting
and depending on obviously cam Green's fitness, does that mean, say,
for example, maybe Head opens with the kowaja and then
everyone shuffles down one so you get seem like Sweeny
it more of a typical number three position, which is

(16:35):
battered in shield. I don't know, but I think we're
looking a bit too far ahead. I think obviously getting
back to the Adelaide Test and how I performed there.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
They say, winning papers over a lot of.

Speaker 5 (16:46):
Cracks and while there is some concerns over our batting
lineup if you go back to India, this is the
the third time that batting lineup's failed in four innings
on this tour, after being whitewashed in their home conditions.
You know, Rowat Shama has been well well short of form.

(17:09):
You know kl ra Hall wasn't even taken on this
tour at the beginning of the squad he was called in,
so I think there's some kolie in that same position.
He's obviously got that brilliant hundred over in Perth, but
he's been very short of runs for a long period time.

Speaker 6 (17:24):
That hundred came after the pressure was off a little bit,
and I think.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
It wasn't a typically true I don't think it was
one of the better hundreds that I've ever seen you make, guy,
which is quietly there's an element of struggle to veer
out Coolie now that he at his best he never had.
There are times when even when he's gone well, he
can be pinned down. He looks he still looks very
vulnerable to that fourth stumpble where he's always trying to
flick at it. He doesn't. That works well for you

(17:54):
when you're in form, but it doesn't work well for
you when you're at quarter of a second behind the pace.
And that four stump line is just going to continue
to be an issue for him for oud rest of
his career because balls just worked it out and you
can see that the success that they're having with it
all over the world now.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
But it's not just them. Should mc gill. You know,
he's obviously in white ball cricket has really really just
hitting his strapsman in red bull cricket that averages mid thirties.
You know, Richard Parn't I think is possibly a bad
even position too high. Ideally, there seems to be a
lot of pressure put on the guy that's essentially it's

(18:33):
six or sticks with Richard, he's obviously incredibly talented, but
this is a guy that is going to play a
certain way and if it comes off, it comes off,
and if it doesn't, this is a guy that will
lose his wicket fairly cheaply.

Speaker 6 (18:44):
It'd be more intimidating if he was batting at seven
like Gilchrist used to do that way, because you've.

Speaker 2 (18:50):
Got through the top six and then you've got this guy.

Speaker 6 (18:52):
This guy running out, walking out, and he could change
the game in an hour.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Ye impressed with Ready though.

Speaker 5 (19:01):
I think Ready's been a really good way for them
coming in.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Is he that I can see what they're looking for.
They really do need for the balance of their team.
They need a seam bowling all around it as opposed
to the spin bowling arounders that they've got because they're
well stop for spin bowling all rounders. I mean, Washington
Sunda's not even in this team, you know, and you've
got DeAsia, You've got Ashwin who why certainly classes in

(19:26):
a rounder. Anybody who's got six Test hantridges and all
arounder man.

Speaker 6 (19:31):
So, I mean it depends on the conditions a little bit.
He struggles with a short ball.

Speaker 5 (19:36):
He's definitely a bowler depending on where it is. If
you're going to South Africa or Australia, anywhere there's a
bit of bounce, I would say he's a bowler that
that's a bit in the subcontinent. Genuine arounder Ashy, Yeah,
genuine all arounder in the subcontinent where he doesn't have
to worry about, you know, sort of pace and bounce
as much. But yeah, he's definitely at worst he's a

(19:56):
bowler that can bat. Conditions will dictate whether he'd give
him that genuine all rounded dat and over here, No,
he's not a genuine all rounder in Australia. I wouldn't
say he's a genuine all rounder in in places like
South Africa. But he's obviously got enough runs on the
belt that you know that he can handle a bat.

Speaker 6 (20:15):
There's a lot of fans of Washington over an injury
as well. I think I think because he's younger. He's
younger than ash when we're younger than Jadeja.

Speaker 5 (20:25):
Oh yeah, they've got a fantastic air apparent. When those
guys hang up there. They're not going to lose too
much with that, you know, needing that skill set. A
guy that can bat sort of you know six to
eight off of some spin and you know he's really
going to you know, to punch above his weight in
terms of batting position. Sundar is an incredible player, but
you're looking at that. So you know, we talked about
Australia being really hard up against it. You know there's

(20:46):
question marks over the openers. Smith and Labershane are struggling
to find runs and then you know we're all sort
of you know, sticking in, kicking the boots into the
Aussies and some of those questions haven't been answered yet.
I mean Marnus was you know, he survived a tough period,
went and cashed in and got a sixty odd. But
you know, this Australian side doesn't count fifties as success.

(21:07):
We want to see those players get in and score hundreds.

Speaker 6 (21:10):
Smith's's talking about it was a disappointing shot on sixty two.

Speaker 5 (21:15):
But the flip side of things, you know, we're joy
swollen and COOLi to a large extent, batting probably the
easiest conditions that any team has had in the series. Today,
once the sort of pitch had flattened out a bit
and the scoreboard pressure was off, they've obviously cashed in
and papered over a lot of a lot of cracks

(21:36):
in that side. But this is a side that, like
I said, three out of four innings that that batting
lineup has failed. They're just coming off a significant series
defeat where their bats are exposed by let's face it,
not exactly extravagant spinstocks that New Zealand offer. No one's
expecting Glenn Phillips and Mitchell satin And to go and

(21:57):
run through an Indian, but E.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
Jazz as well. He is a world class been an
unfortunately plays in his land.

Speaker 5 (22:05):
I don't mean to disparage them, but if you're looking
at that Indian lineup, you know six months ago you
go show you, I read you out that Indian lineup
and I say they're about to get whitewashed by Mitchell
Santner and Glenn Phillips.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
You're going to laugh at me.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
You go, whatever they are not And so there's there's
a lot of question marks there. They're going to be
trying to get some they're going to be looking forward
to moving to the Gabba where it's a bit and
it's not exactly the easiest condition to imagine. It's going to
be a bit of pace, but it bounce. Some of
these players may not be used to it. Probably green, humid. Yeah,
it's always going to I mean, they did play well

(22:43):
in the Gabba last time they're out here, but it's
not that was the.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Last Test of the season, so that wasn't the first one,
or the or the or the mid range one. I
mean we're not even at Christmas time yet, and traditionally
at this time of year, it's going to be humid,
the ball is going to swing, and yeah, it's it's
going to be challenging. It's definitely going to be challenging.
India do definitely have issues, but there's just something, there's

(23:11):
just something about them that you've got Boomera, I mean,
bo is just he's shown what a great bowl if
he actually is in these first two Tests, when he's
not in the attack, they don't look anywhere near as threatening.
And every time he's in the attack you're almost expect
him to take a look at every ball. Well he
almost has. His strike rate is just absurd. Overall, his

(23:35):
strike rate in this in this series is just absurd
and if he stays fit and can get some meaningful
support from the rest of the guys that got in
the team, they're not out of this way. An absolutely not.

Speaker 5 (23:47):
I just feel that Australia has done enough in that
Test now to the blow torches off them a little bit.
They've won the game and now everyone's got to start
looking all right, Well, India is actually three out of
four times they've not done a great jobs.

Speaker 2 (24:00):
Remind me, is Mohammed Chami injured?

Speaker 6 (24:03):
Injured?

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, they are talking about getting him back out here
for the last two Tests.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
I last heard that every time that he's gone a
bowl of meaningful spell in first class cricket, his knees
stilling up and needing to be drained. So I'm not
excited for his prospects of finishing this series at all.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
Him has been a big blow for India because he
is that other like Saraj is a good bowler. Don't
get me wrong, I quite rating highly as.

Speaker 5 (24:30):
A bowl and a very strong three from attack Saraj,
Shammy and Boomra.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
So just if you're if you're going with Saraj and
as you're two opening bowlers, and then you're looking at
what are cash Deep these other guys who were just
coming into the team, and you're looking to use nitash
Ready as the fourth Sema.

Speaker 5 (24:53):
That being said, they beat us with their third string
bowling line up the last time out, so I think
we'd be wise to count out the third.

Speaker 2 (25:00):
Bowling line up from that last time has proven to
be fairly handy. Yeah. Absolutely, when we called him their
third string at that stage, I mean, now you know
they're pretty handy. They really really are.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
The first and a half.

Speaker 2 (25:15):
Yeah, first and half they've all been in the u A.
I mean again we come back to the fantastic system
they have with their prickters come through and how they
do exposed and to long form cricket. They coming ready
to play.

Speaker 5 (25:29):
Just have like a bit of a chat about Travis
Head before we move on to the next part. How
phenomenal Travis had been. He is now the leading century
getter in the Adelaide will buy a South Australian batsman.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
And that's saying something you consider you had Allan Chapel,
you had all those other guys and David pet Bragman
for South Australia.

Speaker 5 (25:51):
I think I don't think they Brad. I think Bradman
is locked in as a new South Welfman. But you know,
he's still got plenty of years left in him and
he's all already overtaken guys that have played a lot
of cricket at the Adelaide Oval. Like you said, Higging
Chapel really does like a hitout at the Adelaide Oval
and filling his boots. So he's got three hundreds there

(26:11):
and I think the next Eye was a.

Speaker 6 (26:14):
Great to watch Travis headline as well. Gosh, we were.

Speaker 2 (26:18):
Very privileged at that last last year at the Test,
in the Sydney Test when we got to watch him
just toying with the South Africans. It was just like
we probably threw one hundred away that day. But it
was very entertaining while he was out there. And to
hear the thump you hear being alive obviously, you hear
that that flump a lot more crisply than what you

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do on TV and he hits the ball. Seriously, what
do we think about the.

Speaker 5 (26:48):
Stout that has started now between Siraja Will were just
talking about before and Travis head after. You know, Travis
Head starts playing the Indian attack around. He scores forty
runs left than what they do all together, clearly just
going after it. You know, he's he's sort of played
all around one rather than actually been beaten by a

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Saraj gets knocked over and then gets a quite a
vicious send off from a bowler that's just been sort
of spanked around for.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
And the interesting sidelight is that Saraj drops Travis Head
when he was on seventy six, so he got just
watched Travis Head double his score after he dropped him.
And then on the reverse side, Travis Head was a
man who went running back and took a very similar catch.
So dismissed Sharag in the second inning. There's a lot

(27:38):
of dynamics going on between these two guys. Personally, I
think it was nothing on the field, ye at least
on the field, you know, it just happened.

Speaker 5 (27:48):
But the thing is quietly Travis Head media well, I
asked Travis Head about it. Obviously it was going to
be a talking for it, and he said himself, Look,
I don't want to give too much Heads is what happened.
I'm not not proud of the way that I handled it,
you know, told him, I said, well Bold, started to
walk off, and then he was abusing me, and I

(28:11):
abused him back, you know, a bit of fire in
the belly and left it on and all that. And
then Saraje comes out and basically says that Travis Head's
a liar and was abusing him. So he swore at
him and told him to get and that's how it
all blew up. Now I'm one of those guys because
his conjecture is that Travis Head did not say well Bold,

(28:32):
And I think I've watched enough of Travis Head, and
especially I was like, manus this sort of new approach
that they've got. But you watch them all the time
where I'll get one that rips past the outside edge,
or a bouncer that got a duck and weave and
you can see them going, oh wow, well Bold and
giving the bowler.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Credit for a good ball.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
There's none of that, you know, Ricky Ponting, Steve wore
Allen Boord a steel trap focus where they give nothing away,
they get beaten or ends up. Usually the first people
to tell the bowl that they're bo or was the batsman.
They'll they'll sit there and go oh, yep, yep, nod
well bowls give him a bit of a cheeky green
take guard again. But there has been a genuine appreciation

(29:11):
for how what the bowls have done. When but when
in the Australian some of the Australian batsmen have been beaten.
So I can see right in that moment Travis Head's
no pressure on. They're well in front of the game.
He has just been carving up, gets a really good
ball full in swing and Yorka knocked his pegs out
of the ground. He would have definitely said and meant

(29:33):
it yet well Bold got me. Yeah, I was going
after you and you ended up winning well Bold, And
it would have been a genuine well Bold.

Speaker 2 (29:41):
It wouldn't have been a sneery or I'm.

Speaker 6 (29:44):
Not a brilliant lip breader. But I don't I don't
think that's that is what he said, But.

Speaker 5 (29:49):
It's not what he said after Saraj had to go
at him. No, yes, I know what he said when
go with him and much rather he.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
We we've seen much worse. We really have so much worse.
The fact that there's so much scrutiny on these guys.
Now look and you've got close ups of their facial
expressions and you're looking at their body language and stuff.

Speaker 5 (30:15):
It's like, really, I'm not too fussed with the content
of what happened, but I am a little bit like,
are you serious right now, Sarage. You're well behind in
the game, Like if he knocked this guy over second
innings after him to scored one hundred for a duck
or something like that, and you finally got the measure
of maybe, But you don't give a guy that has

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scored almost as much as your entire team ascend off
like that.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
It just makes you look like a clown.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
And you can see from the rest of that game
that every time Saraj got anything where he was center attention,
the adelaide Oval let him have it. And I can
just imagine that the Queenslanders are going to be just
like that when they get to the gap. But he's
going to hear about making a fool of him off
because I don't even care.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
That's what he did. He made a fool of himself.

Speaker 5 (31:03):
You don't give a guy on one hundred and forty
send off like that.

Speaker 6 (31:06):
He's the pantomime villain.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Now, yeah, well, we need to have one every summer.
We usually we usually manufacture our own, but we didn't
have to do it this year. He actually he's stepped
up and so you know you're going to get what
you're going to get, mate, and when well, and when
we're at the Sydney Cricket Ground, we're going to boot
you too, believe me, but that is what it is.

Speaker 5 (31:28):
Well, he may not hear us. I've been looking at
tickets for the Sydney Cricket Ground and we made be
pretty far away, yes.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
But it will be. We will be there anyway. So
that's amazing. Stay tune for that episode.

Speaker 6 (31:40):
That's going to be a lot of fun one of
these years. I know it's not going to be this year,
but we're going to don the bone the off like
the Ivory of the Beach. Yeah, it's just not going
to work out this year.

Speaker 2 (31:53):
It doesn't work for us this year, but trust we're
going to and imagine the episode when we're part of
the bridge. Can you imagine it's a great setup.

Speaker 5 (32:04):
Well, I'm truly happy for people to join them. You've
just got to make sure, you know, the expectation is
that you've got to rock up in the bow and
the White Green Bay all of that and the wig
and and you.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
They've got rules like you have to wear it.

Speaker 5 (32:17):
You can't complain about you being hot.

Speaker 6 (32:19):
Well, no, you can complain about it, but if you do,
you have to drink a beer.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Oh. We're just not going to fit in here at all,
are we. Anyway?

Speaker 5 (32:31):
So moving forward, right, so we were talking about that,
we've got the gap are coming up. What do we
think is we're going to see toing and throwing in
this series or are we going.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
To I don't think we've seen anywhere like half the
swings and roundabouts we're going to get in this series.
We've got two very very good cricket teams here. You know,
we just sit here for fifteen minutes and ragged on
all the weaknesses. That's when we sit back in five
years and we look at the list of these teams
and we're going to go all time great, all time great,
Old time great, Old time great, old time great. We're

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just taking that a little bit for granted at the moment,
because we're living in the moments. Two very very good crickets.

Speaker 5 (33:10):
It's going to come down to which teams middle order
can find form quickest. Yes, that's if head's obviously a key.
He's in formed. He's going to keep He's got to
keep batting. We've got some question marks over our top order,
but I don't think any more question marks than India's
top order. So whichever whichever batting unit manages to get

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in and capitalize and find a bit of form first,
because I think, you know, I think our bowling attack
is the best bowling attack out of the two sides.
And I think and I think Boomera is good enough
that he will almost go toe to toe with our
bowling attack by himself. So whatever advantage is that our

(33:52):
bowling attack gets Boomera will replicate almost the same extent.
So Boomera will keep them in the game, especially at
the Gabba. I've got question mark's how he's going to go.
Maybe it's Sydney, and I think being a flat, low,
slow wicket, it might damage his penetration a little bit,
like we see with all of the fast battles that
go to the Sydney. But he'd be foolish to think

(34:13):
that he's going to be ineffective. I just think that
it's going to be less ill dart around a lot less.
They won't be quite as much zip and carry, So
Sydney could be interesting, but it is the last test
of the series. He's going to be a handful when
you go to Brisbane. A lot rides on his shoulders
and he's going to need you know, Rana and Saraje
or if they make any changes and bring someone like

(34:36):
cash Deep into the side, they're going to need those
guys to step up. But yeah, it will come down
to who's going to find form first. Will it be
Gill and row It or will it be Manus and Smith,
you know, whichever batting unit finds its groove. And if
Australia goes and finds its groove heading into the Gabba
and comes away with a big win of the Gabba,

(34:58):
you know, it could be It could almost be that
door closing and we're getting that border Gavesco trophy back
because we can see that this team does tend to
do well when the momentum is on their side.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
We're massive front runners, aren't we. We've send to have
developed that over the last few years that we are
massive front runners.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
Which is why Adelaide was such an impressive game. Because
we are massive front runners. We get off to a
good start we usually carry on with it, but if
you know, we drop that momentum, it can be difficult
for that side to get it back quickly. So that's
going to be the big test. So it's going to
gather again. It's like everything every test in this series
is going to be a big test because as you're right,

(35:38):
these are the two teams that are well at the moment.
They're second and third because South Africa has done really well,
but they're the teams that have been at the pointy
end of the World Test Championship cycle for the last
two cycles. So the battle test, they know what they
need to do. So it's going to be it's going
to be. It's gonna be a big series coming.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Up, the World Test Championship. It has it's really I
think it's really taken on an interesting life in this cycle.
There seems to be a lot more teams that are
certainly in the race except for England because I mean.

Speaker 5 (36:14):
I love before we jump on and talk about the
super coach. You're right. So South Africa at the moment,
I think they've only just got to win one more
test against Pakistans.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
They've got two tests years against Pakistan.

Speaker 6 (36:27):
All of their tests in South Africa.

Speaker 2 (36:30):
No, they played some away one, they played a couple
of way one.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
But if they win one, win one and draw, if
it might be a win and a draw, or it
might just even be a win. But they've got a
fairly easy You're not easy. But it's a straightforward equation
for them to be one of the teams in the final.
And then it'll come down to obviously how Australia and
India go and.

Speaker 2 (36:51):
A lot of it it's actually going to depend on our
tourdustry Atlanka. They actually need to get a result there.

Speaker 5 (36:58):
I believe if we win three two then we're through,
or for one and then we're through. It doesn't really
matter what happens with Shrilanker. I'd have to go and
check the equations. But yeah, so it's India's got at
all the play for They really need to win the
series to get through to the World Championship finals. If

(37:20):
Australia wins the series, especially if it's convincing they march
on from here for one, then we means that we
don't have to do as much work over in Sri Lanka.
But yeah, you're right, it's gone to there's been a
few teams all snipping about on that comment about England.
I do think it's really funny that a couple of
weeks ago Ben Stokes was completely just saying, oh, I
don't really care about the World Test Championship because it's

(37:43):
because it's confusing, I don't understand it. And I'm like, yeah,
that's funny. That's just if it doesn't know anything that
doesn't reflect well on the glory of basball, then we
would just pretend that we don't care about it. And
then they got done for slow overrates and lost more points,
and then all of a sudden, Ben Stokes is out
there complaining about the slow over rates and affecting their

(38:03):
World Test Championship standings ends, and it's like, well, do
you care about it? Do you not? Exactly? Now I've
got I've got a point that I'd like to make
regarding slow over rates, because I see it a lot
coming through is why do we penalize team for slow
overrates when the game has been well and truly sorted

(38:24):
out within five days it's not going to withdraw. Why
do we care They've finished the game, no harm, no foul,
And I'm going to put it to you this way.
The rule is that you need to complete ninety overs
in a day every day for five days, yep. And
so by not doing that every day. So for example,
what happened over in England where we lost. Both teams

(38:45):
lost points, very overcast, droop ball doing everything. Stokes just played,
rotated all of his quicks. Now, if you're going to
play for the rules and make sure that you get
ninety overs in a day, bold, at some point you
are going to have to relent. Be it after the
next break when the sun comes out and you bowl

(39:05):
lots and lots of overs of spin to catch it up.
But you can't just keep rotating broad Anderson, you know,
whatever your quicks are to make advantage of the ball
swinging in these conditions. At some point the batsman knows
that this has to stop because it's taking too long,
and they have to bring a part time or a
spinner on where it'll become easier to bat. Now, if

(39:26):
you just ignore that and keep going and cop the
you know the whatever the fine for only bowling eighty
overs in that day and not actually relenting, you're actually
damaging the integrity of the game. So it's part of
managing that. So part of that being is if you're
in really predominantly helpful bowling conditions, and by the same

(39:47):
thing in a pinkball test, it could be if you're
sitting there along and then you haven't got enough overs
in because you've been a bit slow during the beginning
of the day. Then you've got to make it up
at nighttime when you really want to be playing your quicks,
and then you don't get there, which means at the
beginning of the day where you trying to manage things,
you might have to bowl quite a lot of spin,
which point, by the time you get to the later

(40:07):
on where the ball's doing a bit, it may have
been roughed up. It might not be as good a like.
You know, there's that balance as part of the rules.
The rules state whether you think it's fair or not,
or relevant or not, the rules state that you have
to get ninety overs in a day done, and by
ignoring that, you're actually changing the integrity of the game.
And you know, sometimes it will help. That's been knowing that, Okay,

(40:29):
if I just see through this and this and this,
and they're going to have to bring the spinner on
because they've taken way too long I mean, you know,
there have been times whether the overrate's been as low
as like eleven or ten overs in an hour, and
to speed that up you need to bowl some spinners
that is.

Speaker 2 (40:43):
Actually fifty percent less than what you're supposed to be bowling,
because it basically works out that it's bowled ninety overs
in a day, you must bowl fifteen overs in an hour. Yeah,
we've had how many you know, I've lost an count
of the amount of podcast time we have devoted to
slow over rates over the years and the solutions that

(41:04):
we've come up with. They don't seem to be prepared
to bite the bullet on this issue, which doesn't surprize
me because, I mean, the ICC doesn't bite the book,
do you see the things.

Speaker 5 (41:14):
I don't know why the ICC wouldn't bite the bullet
on this one, because if anything, enforcing overrates actually advantages
teams like India who have bought her very spin heavy sides.

Speaker 2 (41:25):
So overall, if you.

Speaker 5 (41:27):
Make a really big punishment for overrates, obviously they've got
to be careful when they go to places like India
and Australia, sorry, England and Australia and South Africa and
New Zealand where they're going to be more pace heavy.
But if they know that everyone else is playing under
those conditions, and they play fifty percent of their games
or even possibly on a cycle, it might be his
high as seventy five percent of their games. If they're
doing towards the Bangladesh or Sri Lanka, where they can

(41:50):
just rattle through with three frontline spinners, they don't have
to worry about huge over huge penalties for slow overs.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
It's in the BCC eyes.

Speaker 5 (42:01):
Interest to be pushing for harsher penalties because they know
that predominantly it doesn't apply to them because they bowl
lots of spin I've.

Speaker 6 (42:09):
Got a bit of a practical solution. It probably won't
make a huge difference. But have you ever noticed that
when they go for a review they all bring drinks
onto the field. Everyone has drink, they'll all run on
and all the physios will run on. If there's a
review around about the hour, why don't you just make

(42:32):
that your drinks break and not.

Speaker 5 (42:35):
I think there is some common sense discretionary things the
umpire should be doing to manage that, and that would
be one of them. You know, we're taking drinks in
and over we've just called for a review. All right,
we're having a drinks break now while we sort this out.

Speaker 6 (42:50):
Yeah, so maybe it's a little bit longer after the review,
but it wouldn't be that much different a review break.
I mean it varies, doesn't it, depending on how close
the decision is. But yeah, that can be probably longer
than your average drinks break on some occasion.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Ab slowly depending on the amount of angles that they've
got to go to and stuff like that. I actually
think that the only way that it ever really really
gets fixed is the shot clock. We need to have
a shot clock. And if you're not bawling your fifteen
overs in an hour, then you get penalized in some way.
I don't know how you do it. I'm not enough. Well,

(43:28):
we've talked about something.

Speaker 5 (43:29):
We've talked about it before. I don't necessarily know. In
test cricketive, you can put a shot clock on the
over itself, because you know, sometimes you may need to
be adjusting things in the field. But the time between
overs is what I would like, you know, it should be.
It should just be the umpire has you know, what
is it twenty seconds to walk from one ends and

(43:52):
whatever it is for them to get to there and
get themselves set, So twenty twenty five seconds maybe rounded
up to thirty and everyone needs to be ready.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
To be ready to pay and then play their part
in time wasting too.

Speaker 5 (44:03):
And then you have warnings put in place, so if
it's all right, we're ready to go, are you ready
to go? And if they're not warning, warning, five run penalty,
and then every subsequent breach is a five run penalty.
So it's you know, if you're a batsman, you get
five runs taken off your score, if your bowl or
you're adding five runs every time that you're not ready

(44:23):
to go within say whatever the arbitrary number is that
you decide it's going to be between the overs, if
their umpires are there set and if the batsmen are
still scratching away and not facing up, that's a warning batsman.
And the next one that's your second and final third one.
Al Right, it's five penalty runs. You're going from one
hundred to ninety five. Same thing with the bowl, as
captain ready to go in they're not ready, warning warning,

(44:46):
Then they're every subsequent and.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
You actually make it an entry in the score book.

Speaker 5 (44:51):
And then and that's on and that's on top of
losing your points for slow overrates in the World Test Championship,
on top of the fins that can have, on top
of potentially having your captain.

Speaker 2 (45:06):
Suspended consequences, serious real consequences. But the thing is, we
have seen this in the past where captains have been
suspended in that and it hasn't hasn't really made much difference.
But yeah, I think you just got to keep You
just need to keep applying sanction. And it may be
that you suspend somebody for free ups, you know, suspend

(45:29):
somebody and don't allow them the opportunity to be anywhere
near the game for that free ups. A full suspension
almost like a disqualification because you're cheating the people who
come to watch the game, you're cheating your opposition, and
you're basically you're not performing in the spirit of the game.

Speaker 5 (45:49):
I don't necessarily know why I can agree with a
three month suspension. I mean, we have I'm being totally
extrain don't get me. We've got we've got, you know,
far more lenient punished for teams that actively tamper with
the ball in the ICC. So I think a three
month suspension for a captain might be a bit, but yeah,
I think that it's it's something that doesn't matter what

(46:10):
the ICC do. All these half measures aren't changing it.
And it is and it is something that is more
serious than what people give it credit for, because if
you've got fast bowlers on a tear and batsmen that
are really struggling to death, you know, and you're knowing
that at some point this has got to stop because
they're they're seven overs behind, they're nine overs behind, they're

(46:34):
twelve overs behind. They've got to come and pull up
this stop and then we're going to go. We're going
to cash in because they're gonna have to bowl, you know,
Jack Leach and you know, Joe Root. If it's England,
for example, if you're playing there, we're not too fussed
about having a We're much rather faced Jack Leach and
Joe Root than Stuart Broad or you know, commun Jimmy
whichever it might be, so you know, or if it's

(46:56):
South Africa, we'd much rather face Kishev Maharaj and Aiden
Mark for the rampant mark O Yanson and e Robarda
on a cloudy day.

Speaker 2 (47:05):
So we just s get through and stick this.

Speaker 5 (47:06):
Then we're going to get probably an hour worth of
part time as and spin to catch the over eight up.
But if they don't ever actually make those concessions, and
they're just like, all right, we're happy getting eighty two
overs done in the day, and we'll then fine, and
we'll cop our suspensions and we'll cop we'll just cop
the half measures that they're coming at it.

Speaker 2 (47:23):
So that's all we're doing it.

Speaker 5 (47:25):
Because we picked up, you know, three cheap wickets in
that time that we should have been bowling spin, and
now we're going to win the game in.

Speaker 6 (47:32):
It. He's still winged about that's just what then ses
all right, well, that's I divert.

Speaker 2 (47:40):
I didn't want to go down that rabbit hole.

Speaker 5 (47:42):
What I did.

Speaker 2 (47:42):
That's fine. That's my opinion on that we needed to
go down that rabbit hole, because it's quite frankly, the
situation around in the world is getting fastical. It's been
bad for a long long time, and until this governing
body shows some teeth and comes up. I mean, these
guys getting paid hundreds of thousand dollars years sitting in
these committees coming up with rules and stuff like that,

(48:03):
surely we can get you to come up with a
rule that makes a team bowl ninety overs a day.

Speaker 5 (48:09):
And it just comes down to the fact that if
the if they're not fussed, if it's near enough, is
good enough approach, you know, make it they've got a
bowl at least eighty five.

Speaker 2 (48:19):
To whatever it is a minimum of.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
But I don't know. But if the rule is black
and white ninety overs in a day must be bold,
then there needs to be a different approach to it.
Either allowing teams to bat on until we will play
on until you get to that ninety overs unless it's
unsafe to do so because of light or conditions or whatever,
or make you need to be giving the umpires the
ability to keep teams on track in the game. And

(48:46):
if they're not, I if the ICC is serious about
this being a rule and putting measures in place to
stop it, then they're not doing enough. They need to
figure out what it's going to be. Are we are
we putting in different measures to allow team because meanwhile,
like this is ninety overs in a day, we're not
getting to ninety overs in a day plus half an hour, yeah,
because everyone takes the final half an hour and they
still don't get there. So it's not ninety overs in

(49:09):
the a lot of times play, it's eighty four overs
India a lot of times play plus thirty minutes. That's
how far behindh And it's not just England, it's not
just it's everyone. Australia does it, India does it, South
Africa does it.

Speaker 2 (49:23):
And everyone is said, we have come back to the
Only time you don't see this is in the subcontinental
conditions where you can just bowl spin after spin after spin.
You've got guys like you Daysia and Ashwin who get
through and over in two minutes. So in those conditions, yeah,
it's it's whatever. But as a general rule, not all
crickets played in Asia, and there needs to be something.

(49:44):
We need to come up with something, because I get
sick of talking about it. What are we talking about
something so banal about in such a wonderful sport as
we can't get the bowls to bowl enough balls.

Speaker 5 (49:56):
Do you imagine playing like soccer or rugby league or
basket all or something that's got a time limit and
they've got to get to their time limit within you know,
you know, rugby league is eighty minutes of game time and.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
Usually it will take you about two hours.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
Could you imagine if it took them that long and
they just went, all right, we haven't got enough time in,
so we're just going to play seventy four minutes tonight
because because you know what, there's been too much stuff
in around before get packing the scrum or around before
every goal line drop out, and they just go like, right, okay, look,
you guys wasted too much time.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
So the score is twelve to six at the state
of origin.

Speaker 5 (50:32):
Yeah, yeah, you didn't get enough. It took too long
to get this happening, so play. You're rather playing seventy
four minutes instead of eighty and you've missed it, like
you just you wouldn't do that, like it's it's cricket
is one of those things. It doesn't have a timer,
so to speak. But the timer is how many overs
are Like a one day you would you wouldn't call

(50:52):
it one day or a t twenty short by a
few overs because it took too long.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
You penalize its penalized.

Speaker 5 (50:59):
You play the amount of overs you have to play,
and then there are things in place where you be
that monetary fine, whatever, they still play the overs. So
it's just, yeah, if the ically ces determined to keep
this as a requirement and a rule of Test cricket,
then they need to figure out a better way of
enforcing the rule. Here we go, guys, we're about to

(51:25):
come to the part of the year where there is
cricket on a daily basis. That's right. It is a
big bash fourteen.

Speaker 6 (51:32):
Now and.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
Yeah, and it does put it. It does put a
significant strain on your relationship. I think it's I think
it's fair to say that it's a train. We're prepared
to put it.

Speaker 5 (51:43):
And like the cricket tragics out here, I mean there's
a series against New Zealand and England going on, so
the cricket starting at nine am, and you've got our
Test series that will go to what six thirty at night,
then you'll have a big bash game, maybe two depending
on the fixture. And not to mentioned that the South
Africa is about to start a series against Pakistan soon,

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so you know, around that sort of time, we could
end up having cricket going from nine o'clock in the
morning till three o'clock the following morning.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Respective, spouse, we'll see you in March.

Speaker 5 (52:14):
Yes, you book in the marriage counseling and I will
see you so we're getting here. That's Big Bash time
for Big Bash fourteen. We've paid out on it a
little bit. It's been a rocky lead up to this one.

Speaker 6 (52:32):
You know.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
They started off by doing good things and reducing the schedule,
making it sort of more accessible to some of the
players that you may not be able to commit to
a full season because the last obviously the thing that
you really hate to see is teams getting to the finals,
and then they're import players that have showlded a lot
of the work being unavailable due to other domestic tournaments

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or other series things like that. But then they go
and undo all the good work they do just some
really silly things, like we've made fun of the draft.
They put it in for one year, and then the
next year they then undercut it by allowing you know,
pre draft signings. The whole spectacle of the draft just
seems to be half asked and underdone. You look at
things like the IPL auction and then they.

Speaker 6 (53:16):
Watched the NFL Draft with the sound off like at
the pub, and then they decided, okay, we know everything
about the about the draft that we need to know.
You know, it's I.

Speaker 5 (53:31):
Don't even think it's that I reckon that they've they've
heard about the NFL draft from someone who has watched
the draft at the pack the pub with the sound off,
and the guy that guy, and that guy doesn't know
anything about the NFL and has tried to explain it
to the people who run the Big Bash.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
And then that's how they worked it out.

Speaker 5 (53:50):
So a drunk guy that has got a mute recording
of the sport that he doesn't understand has then poorly
explained it to these people who have tried to repl it,
because it's just it was such a just the complete
waste of time the draft that they both drafted all
honestly that they've had in the last couple of years.
But we're here now, we're on the doorstep with a

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big Batch. It is the premiere cricket tournament going on
in this country in modern the modern age.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
You know.

Speaker 5 (54:18):
Yeah, Now, as much as I hate to say it,
it's gone to much bigger heights than the old One
Day Cup Mercantile.

Speaker 6 (54:25):
Yeah, that was the one irew up.

Speaker 5 (54:27):
On, as much as that was good Sunday out, good
Sunday afternoon TV. But the Big Bash is certainly trying
to cash in on this.

Speaker 2 (54:35):
I'm going to show my age here. I remember Tasmania
win in their very first title in nineteen seventy something
in what was the Gillette One Day Cup back then
forty overs a side and flat Jack Simmons, the Tasmanian
captain and Lancashire legend, led the way for him. And

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like they you talk about building Scott Bolander statue, they
built this guy shrine with his edifice made in gold.
So that's how long I've been watching the one day
tournaments for in Australia. I'm pretty sure it was sponsored
by McDonald's actually, so yeah, it's sad to see the
demiser of those of the fifty over game, but unfortunately

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was sponsored. I'm sure that there was a McDonald's sponsorship
in there something. You know, I was only a very
young man. Sore call is probably not token.

Speaker 6 (55:34):
Then there was like the Coca Cola Super Eights or
something along the way.

Speaker 5 (55:38):
The Iron Cup Iron g Cup is one of the
ones that I made and then grew up with the
Ironge where you hit the irong sign you could win
fifty thousand dollars.

Speaker 6 (55:46):
Yeah yeah, yeah, meurvent.

Speaker 2 (55:49):
Time Miture the ones who started that. It was originally
a big M and then they put the line on
there instead.

Speaker 5 (55:56):
Anyway, we digressed, so it's now involved obviously the world
the World Cricket has turned into a T twenty. It's
the T twenty's oyster and here it is. It's the
fourteenth edition of the Australian premiere T twenty competition. And
going along inside of that is bbl's Super Coach, which
is the fantasy version of that which we're all aficionados of.

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I think aficionado is maybe a generous term, but I'm.

Speaker 2 (56:19):
Not that's extremely generous. I've never been called an officiado
of anything.

Speaker 6 (56:24):
Maybe you you might go under that.

Speaker 5 (56:27):
Enthusiasts, maybe enthusiasts amateur instance.

Speaker 6 (56:30):
I mean I know that you're you change your team
several times before number fifteen.

Speaker 5 (56:37):
Absolutely, I think I've got some more editing to do
before the game kicks off this weekend.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
So obviously going to keep my year of the ground.

Speaker 6 (56:44):
I mean, I had fifteen minutes to choose who I
kind of like and that was it. I can get
them under the salary cap.

Speaker 5 (56:50):
I did finish in the top two hundred one year,
and then that's been about as good as I've got
everything else. I've floating around that thousand mark.

Speaker 6 (56:56):
But to get the money, where's the money?

Speaker 5 (57:01):
Top five, Top five made. It's a bloke that one
at two years in rows that guy. That guy's marriage
is on life support right up until he won that.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
Fifty shows up with the check and then that that
kind of a lot of marriage therapy. I would have
imagined some at some fancy more or on a tropical
island somewhere.

Speaker 5 (57:25):
So those of you who are unfamiliar, Supercoach is a
fantasy game similar to fantasy football that you've got where
each of the players involved given a monetary value. You've
got a certain amount of money to be able to
build your team which has made up of wicket keepers.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
Batsman bowlers.

Speaker 5 (57:39):
And this year there is a flex position that you
can use like a supersup, like a super sub.

Speaker 6 (57:45):
And then so what does flex stand for?

Speaker 2 (57:48):
Is that like flexible, I don't know flexibility.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
Once you're once you selected those players, what they do
achieve in a game is reflected with the score. So
you get points to runs, points of wickets for strike, great,
points for all that, you lose points for drop catches,
all that sort of stuff, and you get a score
at the end of the game, and then your players
then depending on if their score outweighs their monetary value,
their price goes up, and then you trade them in

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and out and try to build the best team to
get towards the end of the year. And we've been
doing this for a couple of years now with mixed success.

Speaker 2 (58:21):
So my third year I've kind of little behind it,
behind those boys, their experienced super.

Speaker 5 (58:27):
Coaches, And to be honest, I don't think i'd watch
half the big Bash games or on if I didn't
play super Coach. I think a lot of the time
I'm watching it because I want to find out how
much super coach play goes.

Speaker 2 (58:38):
So the interest you have after Christmas.

Speaker 5 (58:41):
Essentially it has enriched the experience a bit because it
gives me a reason to actually sit down and watch
the games. I find it particularly interesting. So before we
just delve into super Coach, I think we'll just have
a bit of a chat speaking as cricket fans about
what we think of the tournament. So there's been some
movers and shakers, So Civil and z Emperor have been
Melbourne Stars starwarts for a while. SIL's obviously gone and

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played with the strikers as well.

Speaker 2 (59:08):
There.

Speaker 5 (59:08):
Now with the Renegades, they've sort of retooled a little bit.
They've got the bright young hope that he's James Frader McGirk.
So they'll be looking under the leadership of the up
and coming will subtle and to get back towards the
pointy end. The Stars, you have a pretty poor for
a long time, for a long yeah. The Stars too
in that sort of boat. They've got a fairly talented

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roster that never seems to get it all together. They're
going to be up against it with Glenn Maxwell coming
into this torn under an injury cloud. Rashi Khan, who
by and large I think he could make a fairly
substantial argument, made his name in international cricket through the
Big Bash. So of his performances there he's not come back.
He's whether it's been a conflict of interest or if

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he's decided that the Afghanistan hiatus that Australia is on has.

Speaker 6 (59:59):
I think there's a factor. I've read some of the
interviews and then seems to be.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
Doesn't want to come back and play.

Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
Well.

Speaker 6 (01:00:08):
Yeah, I mean it's very critical cricket in Australia saying that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
Cool at the door hit him on the way up.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Yeah much.

Speaker 6 (01:00:15):
Yeah, I think he said that they kind of picked
when they feel morality. Yeah, well, you.

Speaker 2 (01:00:22):
Can do whatever you want, you can say whatever you want.
The fact that the matter is that women can't play
cricket in your country, mate, Women can't do a lot
of things in your country. And this might be a
token effort, this might be whatever you wish to describe
it as, but I guarantee you've got this is would
be one of the things that public support for is

(01:00:45):
almost unanimous. We don't like that sort of thing in
this country, mate, and you don't like it, don't come.

Speaker 5 (01:00:52):
The Brisbane Heat will be looking to go back to back.
They've a fairly strong side as well. They've brought most
of their key contributors back to this side of this sea,
and people like Nathan McSweeney are going to be who
are fairly key contributors in that side, are going to
miss large portions of it, being hopefully involved in the
test side. For the Strikers, they're going to be missing

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a couple of their big guns in head and carry,
and can you imagine if they managed to keep themselves
sort of treading water until they get to that end
of the tournament having an influx of Travis Head and
Alex Carey, coming back to a side that does look
very fairly strong on paper with Matthew Short Darcy that
the Shorts Matthew and Darcy and then some strong bowling

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options in Jamie Rabittson. They're going to be a side
that's going to be tough to beat. The Sydney Sixers
are always a fairly strong side led by Moses Enriquez.
I'm really keen on Jack Edwards, hoping he has a
big breakout year for them and gets play some some
consistent cricket, along with Josh Philippy having a strong, strong

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tournament at the top of the order and maybe getting.

Speaker 6 (01:01:57):
Himself back in that now playing for WA in the
He's definitely who Philippy.

Speaker 5 (01:02:05):
Philip philipp is playing for New South Wales in the Shield.
Oh okay, he was playing for w A and playing
for the Sixers. Yeah, the Big Bash contracts and their
Shield contracts are are different, so there's no issues there.
So I think it's going to be It's poised to

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be an interesting tournament. I hope it's going to be
fairly even keeled. I think I've made my position on
white ball cricket that there's sort of like a sweet
spot where you should be aiming to get somewhere in
the vicinity of twelve to fourteen wickets a game, and
then if your scores somewhere between say three fifty and

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four hundred runs in the game. So if you look
in at twelve to fourteen for two eighty or sorry
to eighty brown, it's probably a little low, probably close
as like maybe three fifties. That's like one that's six
for one seventy're playing six for one seventy sort of thing.
I think that's the you know, a really nice sort

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of sweet spot for batters and bowlers being involved in
that game hasn't got too out of like two over
the top that the bowlers are.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Just there to be pummels where you're and there's still
plenty pl scores last year where we're eating Lot two
for two hundred and ninety or twenty eighths. Is it's
entertaining to watch, it's not really good cricket.

Speaker 5 (01:03:35):
But yeah, I'm thinking if you're sitting somewhere between you know,
twelve to sixteen wickets between three hundred and fifty and
four hundred runs three hundred or three hundred, maybe three
hundred and seventy to four hundred and ten. I think
at fourteen is probably the high. You're getting pretty.

Speaker 2 (01:03:52):
High at that point, but it would be an exciting
game year your first team makes two hundred, and second
team chases it down. In that circumstance, That's one thing
when you're having these these blowouts where somebody is getting
two niney and the other team gets blowed out for
one hundred and ten because they're trying to chase a
ridiculous score.

Speaker 6 (01:04:09):
That's I feel you feel like the bowl is in
it though.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
Yeah, I do too, And that's that's I think that's
what we do do out here a lot better than
they do in a lot of other two twenty tournaments
around here. It's just very predominantlymed. We try to make
it a relatively even We're not even contest is probably
the wrong word, but certainly we don't make it. There's

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more balance, Yeah, there's more balance than there is for
the for most other tournaments around the world. So who's
going to go first? With the name in your.

Speaker 5 (01:04:42):
Chain, I'll go first, Ale. This is my team now.
So yeah, so the my my, my super coach team
heading on Heading into this tournament, I've gone with Tom
Seffert and Jacob On from the Hurricanes as my wicket keepers.

(01:05:05):
I've gone with Draam because I don't think you'll play
a lot and I think it'll allow me to loop
use the vice captain captain loophole where appropriate, so I
can get in there and you know, possibly exposed where
I've got a player that I think might do well
early in the in the round, and I've got a
guy that i think might do well playing at the
back end. I can almost have two cracks at it.

(01:05:26):
So that's why I've gone in that position. So for
my batters, I have one of the players and I
can see that there's been, you know, on various Internet
forums and things, there's been a lot of conjecture about
do you start with with Matt Short considering there is
a number of double game rounds, so that the Stars
and the Renegades both played double game rounds, you know,

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do you capitalize and try and get as many of
them in or do you bite the bullet on paying
premium dollars for Matt Short for knowing that he's then
going to have his double game round in round two.
So I've gone with Short at his three hundred and
four thousand dollars price. Yeah, purely because i know that

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I want him next round and I'll have to rip
my team apart to be able to afford to get
him in. So I've gone with it there. I'm going
to take it in. And there have been times where
Shorts scored more than you know, if he goes and
scores a big hundred and maybe takes two or three weeks,
he'll score as many as some other players might get
him there both their games. So yeah, he's he's a
player that's I think you you really can't start without,

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you know. Obviously he goes and as a really shocking
start to the season, but at this point on four,
I think that Matt Short.

Speaker 2 (01:06:38):
Would you silly start without him?

Speaker 5 (01:06:40):
And then I've got some of my double game brigade,
So I'm starting with the English all round of Tom
Curran from the Stars, Jake Frasier McGirk, who's probably going
to be batting in the opener three for the Renegades,
and then Marcus Doyness, who say seem to be saying
it every year, comes into the tournament. A great value
for what he offers. You can dual position bat and
he's only eighty four thousand dollars to pick him up.

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He's only eighty four thousand dollars because he never seems
to play well recently in the Big Bash. But he
is the captain of the Stars this year. So hopefully that's,
you know, the burden of leadership will bring out the
best in him and he can have a really big tournament,
because I think I remember it was it five or
six years ago where he had that absolutely outrageous tournament
where he had a couple of hundreds opening the batting
and just was phenomenal. I've gone with Matt Renshaw as

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a bit of a cheapie in the batting.

Speaker 2 (01:07:29):
I think he's.

Speaker 5 (01:07:30):
Been in really good white ball form considering some of
his up and down red ball form. You know, I
can see him batting in the top four for the
for the heat. May offer some sort of middle over
spin every now and then, and it might.

Speaker 2 (01:07:44):
Be embarrassed to get out to me probably you'd be
a batch.

Speaker 5 (01:07:48):
But I think hopefully that's you know, he'll be someone
that can maybe get a few price rises in and
help me get some of those big guns coming into
the back end of the tournament. On my bench. I've
got Curtis Patterson, who you know eventually could be batting
in the top three for the sixties sixty game. Yeah,
he went over the scorches and had a relatively productive

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time over there. So I'm hoping he comes back and
maybe finds himself somewhere in the top order and can
get some runs out and again a bit of a.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Price rise, great gas on a hot streak at.

Speaker 5 (01:08:19):
The moment, and then filling out my batters with the
young gun Sam Constance, which seems to be in everyone's
lips and I think could be an absolute bargain, especially
because word is he may open with David Warner for
the Thunder and at rock bottom dollar he.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Should be did come in about sixty grand or no
is the bottom.

Speaker 5 (01:08:38):
He's the cheapest play he could get his thirty nine
point five thousand dollars. So if he is named in
the top three for the Thunder, he should be in
one hundred percent of teams because you know that kid
is class. All he's got to do is get one
decent score and then he's going to get a stack
of price rises for a while and you'll you'll be

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set and then you can trade him in for forever
you need to.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Going to the bowlers.

Speaker 5 (01:09:03):
I've got Bo Webster recently released from the Australian cricket
team to play for the Stars, which is good because
he's not a double game round.

Speaker 6 (01:09:11):
This was confusing. We talked about this, Josh English not
being released.

Speaker 5 (01:09:18):
Josh Inglass is remaining with the side as the reserve
keeper slash backup bats but in case something happens they
need a concussion sub. But they're released by Webster. I've
gone with the renegades. A new captain, Will Sutherland. I
think he's prom for a really big year. I've actually
got him tentatively as my captain heading into this round.
I've got some more renegades in Fergus O'Neill who has

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just been dominating Shield cricket the last couple of seasons.

Speaker 2 (01:09:44):
Hoping that turns into.

Speaker 6 (01:09:47):
Bowl and wouldn't have gone so well in Adelaide. I'd
be saying that Fergus O'Neill has to be four fourth
seema yeah once if there's an injury, I.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
Would actually not far away from getting into that spot.
I like him, I'd like to see Hi Boler probably
an extra five kilometers now faster. I think he's a
one thirty bowler at at this point in time, and
we don't traditionally like one thirty bilers in this country,
but certainly his form over the last two years in
the state creage it has just been he's like probably

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the form biler in the country those numbers. But yeah,
I'm digressed. I never stopped doing this, Aaron.

Speaker 5 (01:10:31):
I've also got Adam Zander from the Renegades as well,
so capitalizing on some double game round players are finishing
out my bowler with my starting bowler with Ji Richardson,
who as long as he doesn't go in too exuberantly
high five anyone could be due for a really big year.
He's a really great price point, especially considering he will
have a double game round in round two at one

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hundred and thirty. I was like, yep, thank you, I.

Speaker 2 (01:10:56):
Will have at Barler.

Speaker 5 (01:10:57):
I picked I've got Is it Fabian Allen? I was
gonna say fin Allen, but like, no, that's the key weast.
It's Fabian Allen from the West Indies. Their import on
my bench again ahead of a double game round that
they've got in round two Will Saltzman from the Thunder.
I've got as a bit of a nuffy, so I can,

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you know, muck around, muck around. He's also dual position,
which is why I've picked him, so I can move
in between batting and bowling. Helped me sort of balance
my team and in my flex position, I've gone with
Jack Edwards. I'm hoping he lands somewhere. It's sort of
in the higher up the order, but I think they
probably use him as a finisher. But he's come a
long long way as a bowler. I'm hoping he'd be

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one of those guys that picks up a stack of
wickets for the six.

Speaker 2 (01:11:42):
It's an interesting He's an interesting case, that isn't it,
because they brought him in like when he first started
getting around the traps at East South Wales there's very
much batsman and now he's like an opening bowler.

Speaker 5 (01:11:53):
And picked up Tempa one of the game against w A.
There is some talk that they potentially may have you
know which I mean, I might have to do some
shuffling with the team. But if Curtis Patterson doesn't get
that spot, there's talked that Jack Edwards might be used
as that, you know, hard hitting, get them up to
a quick start with Josh Philippy all round her, and

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in which case I think that Edwards would be a
player that's you'd be really hard to say no to.
If he's going to bowl as well as been bowling
in domestic cricket at the moment while batting the top order,
could be one of the fins of the tournament. It's
just a shame they don't have any sort of doubles
early on. But so, yeah, that's my side. How you
got on the bench, that's.

Speaker 4 (01:12:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:12:34):
So I've got Patterson, Constance, Alan and Saltzman sitting on
my bench.

Speaker 6 (01:12:42):
Well, I I haven't had as much time as always.
I do everything last minute, so it's good to see that.

Speaker 5 (01:12:49):
Again worked on your homework.

Speaker 6 (01:12:51):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, there might have been that. There might
be a few clunkers in here. But you know what
I as I said, as you know, I'm sick of
chasing doubles in this stuff. I'm just going to pick
who I think is going to score strategy for if
they you know, if they happen to have a double,

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that's that's fine. But I'm just going to pick who
I think he's going to score. So, uh, my wicket
keeper is going to be Ben McDermott. I think he'll
have a big tournament. He's been pretty good in the Shield.

Speaker 2 (01:13:30):
I think so far he got sixty of the other day.
I was watching a bit of it. He looks pretty solid.
Actually made a couple of little adjustments to his twist,
stance and everything to be a little bit more closed off,
and he's really really open at one stage.

Speaker 6 (01:13:46):
So I've got Jimmy Pearson on the bench for my
wicket keeper.

Speaker 5 (01:13:52):
I like he's polased to open the batting for the
for the heat as well, which could end up being
quite a value pick.

Speaker 6 (01:14:00):
Well, maybe you shouldn't be on the manch anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:14:03):
I've actually resisted that Short.

Speaker 6 (01:14:05):
I just don't I don't know. I look at these
things and my frugal side sort of kicks in and
he's not worth that much. So instead of Short, I've
gone with chrislin. I think he might have one more
good season in him.

Speaker 2 (01:14:22):
Well, the thing is that with someone like Chrisline the
other it's had two good games and he's going to
wrap up some serious points for you.

Speaker 6 (01:14:29):
Yeah, yeah, the thing is to pick him at the
right Yeah, he drives people nuts.

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
I was lucky I've got him a couple of times
last year when he went off and was able to
ditch him before he failed.

Speaker 5 (01:14:42):
Yeah, every year, I say, ever, I'm not doing Chrislin
this year and every year I will be.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Sucked into.

Speaker 6 (01:14:50):
Yeah. I've got bow Webster as well. I think he's
in cracking form and so much flexibility. I've got Ollie Davies.
I think he'll play a more senior role at the
Thunder because he's been playing in the middle order for
New South Wales, so I'd say he'll play most games.

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I've gone with Darcy Short again. I think he'll have
a bit of a Renais renaissance this year. And Curtis Patterson.
He's just a value by sixty two k for a go,
probably played top three. Yeah, Sam Constance on the bench,

(01:15:32):
there's a no brainer. Had to have him. And I've got.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
Joe is it Joe Joel Davies, Olie's brother Joel.

Speaker 6 (01:15:42):
I think he he might play a few games and
maybe just build up some money for me. Yeah. And
then for bowlers, I've got Xavier Bartlett. I've walked out
for him. I'm a big fan of him. He's and
my strategy obviously for bowlers this year is to get

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people who are going to take wickets, and so he's
got to be the top of your shopping list there.
I initially had Aaron Hardy, but then I realized he's injured,
so I just traded him for another sport trip. Jason
beren north Well, I think he's always underrated. I've got
Lance Morris again with the strategy of wicket takers. Will

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Sutherland he was really good for me last year, so
I think I've just banking on memories from last year. Yeah,
you get your players that you like based on that.
And I've got Fergus O'Neill as well, because i think, yeah,
even in the first couple of T twenties that he played,
he looked good on the bench. I've just got Jordan

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Buckingham and Saltzman as well, So and my.

Speaker 5 (01:16:54):
Buckingham could be a really good pick up if he
gets fit and firing, especially I'm leading him for this
one because there's conjecture he might not be ready, but
if he gets ready for next round with the Strikers double,
he's another player that should be in almost all teams
because he's had a really good start to the Shield

(01:17:15):
year before picking up that injury. I think he got
a broken rib playing in one of the Australia A
games is what's ruled him out. So he's pretty close
to returning and he gets one of those quick spots,
especially considering that Sidles left and he ends up taking it.
I think it's come down something between like Doggett and Buckingham.

(01:17:35):
So Buckingham could be one to really keep your eye on,
and if he gets in there, he's certainly a player.
I'll be looking at him.

Speaker 6 (01:17:41):
I didn't really understand what the flex was, so I
just picked Where's Aga? But I could change I probably would.

Speaker 5 (01:17:50):
I don't know who is in the starting eleven fort
starting eleven for the Thunder at the moment.

Speaker 2 (01:17:55):
So he's kind of dropped off the rago a little
bit over the last twelve months. He was getting himself
a bit of a reputation and going forward. But yeah,
I actually picked him up. Are you done?

Speaker 5 (01:18:09):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:18:09):
I'm done?

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
Yeah, Okay, So I'll start off with my work at keepers.
I've gone off. I've gone with Jimmy Pearson, who is.

Speaker 6 (01:18:17):
Just a favorite of mine.

Speaker 2 (01:18:18):
I tend to pick him at most times I think
he's really really good value at one hundred and seven
thousand dollars. Yeah, and he's going to he's going to
play most games. He's going to be batting high in
the order. And my other wicked keeper was Joe Clark
at the Stars. I've seen quite a devastating player, and
again he's one of those guys that if you can

(01:18:39):
get him to go off for you a couple of times,
it's just a matter of catching him really, but he
does rack up the points. He does rack up big points.
They were my two wikie keepers. My batsman. I didn't
really know where to go with a lot of the batsmen,
so I've kind of picked like a.

Speaker 3 (01:18:58):
Rump.

Speaker 2 (01:18:59):
I went with Colin Monroe, Marcus Steiness, Ashton Turner and
Jake Bethel, the English player. I put Warner in you
know the battle's going are available for the first round? Rock? Yeah,
well he is my reserve. He's in the reserves anyway.
And I also picked up Olie Davies as well.

Speaker 5 (01:19:22):
I trade, you pick someone who's going to play for
the rene games if you've got to double up.

Speaker 2 (01:19:26):
So anyway, yeah, I figured Olie Davies at seventy eight thousand.
You can't go wrong there. He's going to do something
at some stage somewhere, so I like to I like
Oli Davies as a player, and I like him as
a T twenty player as well. The ball was I
kind of got a bit of a left handed bent,
except for the first guy who I picked, which was

(01:19:47):
Joy Richardson. If he can stay fit, please n't hurt
yourself in any way, shape or form this season. Play
a full season. You'll take twenty five weeks.

Speaker 6 (01:20:00):
Watch out for those high Yeah, watch out. I've already
said it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:06):
I also went with Jason Beredorf. I think he's a
very very underrated bowl always does really well in T twenty.
He's been a key to this scorgeous success over a
period of time. I also went with two of my favorites, actually,
Ben Walshes the Left Armor and Hayden Kerr. I've always
got a spot in my team for Hayden Kerk. He's

(01:20:29):
always done very well for me. Probably didn't have the
greatest season last year, but I was able to catch
him on a couple of occasions. And one hundred and
five thousand dollars, I think that's just a really good
value pick up. My fifth bowler in my in the
starting team is Matt Kelly from the Scorches. Again really
really good value and a good performer. I have Spencer

(01:20:53):
Johnson and where's Agar on the bench? Obviously Spencer Johnson's
injured and where are well we shall see, but he
was he was pretty good value, so I picked him
up and my flex player was Will Sutherlin. I think
I've spoken enough about Will Sutherlan. He is, he's going
to play for Australia at some stage and yeah, he

(01:21:14):
may well actually end up being the captain of my team.

Speaker 5 (01:21:18):
I think he's a pretty good Captain's the option Will Sutherland,
I've got him currently, this is captain. I've got Curran
as my vice captain. So Kuren has a good game
to not against the Scorches in the first game. I
could potentially loop him, but yeah, I've got eyes on.
What I like about you know, Curran is he has

(01:21:40):
a propensity to pick up some cheap wickets in the
back end when teams are slogging against him, whether they
be bolds or caught on the boundary and things like
that doesn't happen, But you don't get a discount in
points on super coach when you're you know, if you've
been blasted around and you pick up a couple of
cheap wickets when teams are teaming off again. So he's
going to buy a lot of those depth overs. And
if he picks up and gets at the death where

(01:22:01):
even if either through really good bowling or just teams
needing to go hard, can make a difference between a
sort of mass super coach score a really good one.
So yeah, so we're all set to go some interesting
picks there and all the teams, I feel, well.

Speaker 6 (01:22:18):
Who's everyone? Who's everyone going for?

Speaker 2 (01:22:20):
So I'm a sixth person, so you know they're white team.
That's too long.

Speaker 5 (01:22:27):
I've always had a soft spot for the Thunder back
when Callous and Hussy were going around playing for them,
so I'll probably be sticking with them. I do like
the Sixers as well. I like some of the players
that they've got kicking around in that side. You know,
Todd Murphy is probably going to be the starting spin
option there. I like Jack Edwards, I like Moses and Mariquez.

(01:22:47):
So you know, Sydney, Sydney boy. For me, putting under
my head, I'd picked the Green Ones over the pink ones.
But someone's as the Sydney team winning, I'm pretty happy.

Speaker 6 (01:22:58):
I'll go for the Hurricanes because I I love the
city of Hobart. I almost moved there, and that's basically
the only reason.

Speaker 2 (01:23:08):
The Hurricanes. They went from being a real horse a
couple of years ago to be sort of nowhere for
maybe two or three years now.

Speaker 5 (01:23:17):
But yeah, that top three of McDermott short and weighed
they had there for a while was, yeah, it's pretty
good luck. Good luck.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
I was scoring about one hundred and seventy strike rate
normal getting back for five or ten.

Speaker 6 (01:23:32):
No one picked up Nathan Ellis, though you did drop
off a bit value wise.

Speaker 2 (01:23:37):
I think the tough thing with the Hurricanes they want
too much money for him from mine at the moment.
I think the thing is with the Hurricanes as well.

Speaker 5 (01:23:43):
They don't have any double game rounds for a while,
and there are so many good bowling options that you
can pick up in that are going to get doubles
with the first two rounds. I mean, you guys have
picked up quite a lot of scorches who are gonna
have double games next week. There's a stack of really
good bowling options that you can pick between the Stars
and the renegades. You've also got some good bowling option
to the strikers. I think it's almost that the value

(01:24:03):
that he is. I mean, when you're looking at it
and you could have, you know, two cracks of Fergus
O'Neill versus Nathan Ellis, you know, or you know, it's
almost and you know what half the price.

Speaker 2 (01:24:17):
Two cracks of Joy Richardson.

Speaker 5 (01:24:22):
Round two, you've got two cracks of Dry Richardson, who's
also still cheaper than Nathan Ellis. I just think it's
a it is, you know, as Glenn put it, when
you're chasing double game round scores, you can actually get
caught out sometimes and quality players, quality players, And there
have been times when you know, you see it, you
see it all the time. I've had that regret, sellers

(01:24:43):
regret when you sell out someone that's not on a
double and.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
You bring in a guy that is, and that guy.

Speaker 5 (01:24:47):
Has an absolutely astonishing game, picks up a four for
or a five for and absolutely kills it and was
scores way more than what the guy that you brought
in you had two games does and you're just like
a I just got I got sold down.

Speaker 6 (01:25:01):
The probably reaction for me. But I'm just I'm not
going to go doubles unless unless, like you say, their
quality players.

Speaker 5 (01:25:13):
All right, well that's our super coach analysis done.

Speaker 2 (01:25:17):
As I said, Probably a Fishianados might be a bit
of a stretch.

Speaker 5 (01:25:20):
Enthusiast is probably more more.

Speaker 2 (01:25:21):
Accurate, but a little bit above the casual observers and
a little bit less an.

Speaker 6 (01:25:26):
Expert the intermediate boxy.

Speaker 5 (01:25:32):
Yep, I'm just doing it. Just do it, picking up
all right, guys, that'll do for us. Next week we'll
be back with a wrap of the upcoming Third Test
at the Gabba, which we're all very excited for.

Speaker 2 (01:25:42):
It's going to be a big series.

Speaker 5 (01:25:43):
It will be privately hoping that our midle order finally
get to tack together and scores some runs and really
puts the Indians to the sword on a tough Gabba
wigt and get back to calling that Gabba the Gabatoire
because I think they were the ones who broke the
spell from rumblings. We might not have gap require much longer.
I only have a few more years and then it'll
become whatever stadium they build for the Olympics. We'll be

(01:26:08):
But thank you always for joining us for this one.
There's always been a pleasure talking great. It's great to
have you back, Glenn.

Speaker 6 (01:26:15):
We're going on the road this year too.

Speaker 5 (01:26:18):
Yeah. The plan is to get down from one of
the days with the Sydney Test, so that'll be a
fun one. So there'll be some podcast, there'll be some
videos that will all be.

Speaker 6 (01:26:25):
My schedules clear enough, so you know, let's get some
episodes in.

Speaker 5 (01:26:30):
Good You just entite us to go off for the
Christmas break.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
You're going to be available again.

Speaker 5 (01:26:35):
Good stuff. We might try and squeeze I think at
least one.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
We've got to try and get one more infore Christmas.
Get the Christmas edition, guys.

Speaker 5 (01:26:44):
We'll get definitely one more in before Christmas. I don't
know how we'll go with two, but.

Speaker 2 (01:26:48):
We'll definitely have one.

Speaker 5 (01:26:50):
We'll definitely have one, all right, guys. Until that one
comes around next week, it's by for now.

Speaker 2 (01:26:58):
Over. This podcast is part of the Sports Social Podcast Network.

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