Episode 189 - New Years Road Trip - Two Slips & A Gully

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Speaker 1 (00:27):
Your Future, our goal cloud Chase. Hi, verywan and welcome

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to a very special episode of Two Slips Innagali. It
is our annual road trip, Fellas, how we feel it
right trap. We are currently en route to the SCG
where we will be watching day one of the fifth
tests of the Border Gavesco Trophy, Australia coming in with
a two to one lead, and what a test it
was for us to get up to one.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
How good was Boxing day, Fellas? Boxing Day?

Speaker 4 (01:16):
Even seriously, if you're if you looked at that, if
you were improlled by that by the whole five days
such with test.

Speaker 5 (01:22):
Cricket brings such a good which just a free indverdishment
for the game wasn't it.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Yeah, really really stuck into the people that are like, oh,
we should reduce it to four days, and you know,
you can see that there's a bit of an argument there.
There's been quite a few tests especially this seems to
be very I would you say very but there's tilting
towards bowl of friendly, especially in you know conditions like
like Australia at the moment where the tests are being
wrapped up sort of well within four days and it's

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is it time to reduce test cricket five to four
days to free up the calendar a bit more. This
test is the perfect advertisement for that, is after nonsense.

Speaker 6 (02:01):
Absolutely we've covered this before.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Yeah, absolutely, enthrawling test match Australia with a gearchu and
seven for forty three effort in the final session to
come away with the victory to the test that too,
throwed so many storylines. We're gonna have a chat about that.
We're also to a bit of a preview for the
Sydney Test that we're on our way to attend. We've
just got some huge gratifications for not only the Border

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Gaves but Trophy, but also the World Test Championship and
also for the careers of certain players. So we'll have
that all to talk about. But all that cricket goodness
is coming up right after this, all right, guys, So
Water Test match, Now, this was teed up to be

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so many storylines right from the beginning we debuted.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Sam Constantly came in from McSweeney.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
I know, I got on and had a bit of
a chat online about my thoughts around McSweeney being being dropped,
but Constance was brought in. He was helicoptered in apparently
that the best plan that the Australian selectors could come
up with was a nineteen year old with you.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Know, less than a dozen first class games to his name.

Speaker 1 (03:13):
That was the best I don't think so, but he
was the best qualified person to take on the best
fast bowler on the planet. That's that was the thinking
you got to this question. It's a questionable thinking there,
I feel. I don't honestly think that there was a
lot of science behind that one. But you know what,
at the end of the day, constas will paid them

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in spades with one of the most entertaining pre lunch sessions.
I think since Shane Warn got his seven hundred against
Andrew Stretts, in the six oh seven series.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
I don't think we've had a Boxing day morning be
quite so talked about with It was great.

Speaker 7 (03:54):
I mean, I've got to admit that I was the
wondering why he was there when he.

Speaker 6 (03:59):
Played ramp shot for the tenth ball of the game.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
At least I had similar reservation as well.

Speaker 7 (04:09):
Near that that was what saved him, Yeah, the first couple.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
But then came back and found his groove. He hit
him from what was it six six four six or
four six six, all ramp shots to get him from
I think what six to twenty or whatever.

Speaker 6 (04:28):
It was.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
The first time that Cole had been hit for a
six in like three thousand days or something. Just the
absolute I think, I think you shared a great one.
The South Park meme about the size.

Speaker 6 (04:45):
Of a Yeah, yeah, he has his particular in the wheelbarrow.

Speaker 3 (04:52):
Yeah, the confidence of a concerts to come in. I mean,
and you've got to think about that.

Speaker 1 (04:55):
This is the nineteen year old biggest occasion and like
Australian Test Cricket Day one Boxing day, he's nineteen years old,
has really stuff, all experience behind him. He's facing a
guy that has consistently made the Australian batting lineup look
feeble and he's.

Speaker 3 (05:10):
Just like whatever.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
Really set the tone got us off to a great
start then, you know. Obviously, then Marnas and Kowaja, who
have been under quite a bit of scrutiny, they chipped
in with some really solid half centries, didn't kick on
with it, and then we all got to see possibly
my favorite part of the Test other than the last session,
was number thirty four for number forty nine, Steve Smith

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getting it another one hundred. The guy that apparently was
on his way out at the beginning of the series
has now got two hundreds to his name just doing
what Steve Smith does. Are we really that surprised? I mean,
I'm not. I never stopped believe it's Steve.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
I'm not that surprised, dive. I think we realistically we
understand soon tweets Steve Smiff Pete, Steve Smith has gone
and gone, but hey, it's like with Ken Dooka. It's
still a pretty high mountain he's up on, isn't it,
And just go, well, you're at your age and against

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this attack you're able to still chip in with two
really really solid match winning hundreds, or maybe not match winning,
but certainly match defining hundreds and you look the same
as what you've always looked.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Or you know, people who have been sort of disparaging
Smith because his average has fallen to fifty six.

Speaker 6 (06:37):
Oh yeah, that's terrible, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (06:39):
And his average, despite the fact that he's apparently past
it now, is still better than totally, still better than Root,
still better than Williams and the three best batsman of
this generator his generation, and Root has been on just
a ridiculous tear to get of late and still can't catch.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
Smith who's in apparently in free fall. So it was
it was really good to see that the you know what,
what does Smith say? That he found his hands?

Speaker 1 (07:07):
You know, the biggest problem solver in cricket has come
back to it again, guided Australia to just a dominating.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
First inning score of well over four hundred.

Speaker 7 (07:19):
When I do wish he'd found his feet a little
bit in the second she fished at that.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yeah, he sort of made us all of his nerves.

Speaker 6 (07:28):
Yeah, yeah, take one hundred and forty or.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
Whatever in India's batting lineup again or wobbles.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
There was a contribution from from Joyce Wall with an
eighty odd before in the most spectacular fashion.

Speaker 4 (07:47):
Was run out one of the best barbecues you've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
And that was when the game was well and truly
sort of tipping back in India's favor, like Coley looked
absolutely untouchable. Gyce Wall was just sort of marching onto
another hundred and then just yeah, everyone says it's gis
Wall's fault. I think the fault can be laid two ways.
I think that Gill was being audacious. Well he was running.

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I think he was running towards the danger and and
if Coli had gone, they weren't getting it. If Collie
had had accepted his partner's call who it was Gill's
call and gone, they weren't going to get him at
the keepers at the angle.

Speaker 6 (08:26):
Of the road. He would have been running between the
stumps and the.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Throw anyway, Yes, Coli would have made it at the
keeper's end. So while while yes, you know, it was
probably at.

Speaker 4 (08:36):
Least it again, it was a pretty bad frontwards well,
it wasn't like with over the top of the mails.
Carrie took that three or four mayors behind the stumps
on an angle, running towards the leg.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
Well, I think that was because that was because obviously
Carrie hadn't gone to the stumps yet, because of.

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Yeah, the runout wasn't I wanted that point sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
But yeah, I think if Coli had gone and take
it and trust that these parts, Yes, it was a
really risky single for a Test match when you're you know,
you're too too far chasing a huge score, you know, comfortable.
But I think if Coli had just accepted the word
of Gisquel when he said yes and ran, they would
have made it a tight single and yeah, and relatively

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comfortably made it tight and everyone would have been like,
that's really good running.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
But because colely Borg's.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Had set him back, and then how Gispol's got this,
you know obviously him running out quite quite a way.
So and then from there colonly then Nicks went off
first time, he looked even close to being uncomfortable for
the whole eatings that he had in that in that
first in and then we've gone bang bang cracked.

Speaker 7 (09:41):
Open the earth for me. The runout though, the worst
part was that the Colone just turned around, like he
didn't put his hand up in the screen, No, he
just turned around.

Speaker 4 (09:52):
Yeah, once he realized that there were that he wasn't
going to go. He's his instinctly self preservation back on
you and go back.

Speaker 6 (09:59):
To that's not heroids, that's you know, that's really cricket,
kind of gorlic, you know.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
But see, I think Coly realized that if he had
taken a few more steps and Joyce gits passed him,
because realized very quickly once he decided not to go.

Speaker 3 (10:16):
There's no run there and something's bad. He's going to
happen here.

Speaker 6 (10:20):
Yeah, yeah, in the form he's in, and he was he.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Was on.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
What sacrifice?

Speaker 7 (10:34):
Funny, Yeah, exactly, it's not even a conversation.

Speaker 6 (10:39):
Is Yeah.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
Australia rolled on from there and again sort of a
certain subdominance. Innings before I think probably the fines of the.

Speaker 6 (10:51):
Of the tour.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Ready came out scored a fantastic hundred. I'd be batting
him at five.

Speaker 7 (10:57):
I don't know where he's come from, because like you
look at his crick in both things and his stats
in first class and have nothing to write home about.

Speaker 6 (11:07):
The average is about twenty with the bat, so they
must he must have come up through He's.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
Come through the IPL and things like that. But in
that lineup, I be batting him at five. Yeah, and
shuffling Richard part who has been appalling in this not
only just this match, but this series in the manner
that he's getting himself dismissed.

Speaker 7 (11:31):
Well, I think I think the Indian lineup is actually
inherently confusing. Like there's so many all rounders, there's so
many guys. I don't think they really know what roles
are expected of them.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
Get the same Judaisha.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
While he's a good player M.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Six in any subpintinental conditions, I don't think he should
be batting and high. You'd probably people going to bat
him seven or eight in normal circumstances. What is Ready's
role I mean is here?

Speaker 7 (12:11):
Yeah, that's right, confusing him and he's I mean, he's
still thriving. But I think, yeah, you just say, you
know what, you're a good one about top six batsman
and you're bowlings bonus, but you're not You're not telling
someone that when you're batting them at seven and eight.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
I just think that Rishard is too much of a
wild card to be at five.

Speaker 7 (12:35):
Well, that throws you out as well. I think, you know,
like when you keep his batting higher than seven. Just
can confuse the issue because like then you've got to
bat someone else.

Speaker 4 (12:45):
I'm not I wouldn't be concerned about that, But what
might be concerned with Rishard is you're you're a key
part of that middle order man.

Speaker 3 (12:52):
You can't be given your wickets away the way you
give him away.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
I think he's talented enough to bat it five, absolutely
shown a complete in aptitude to display the temperament to
bat at five. He just will not put those shots away.
And I think especially in this year, is when India
have been losing wickets fairly early at the top. You

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can't be three down and then sitting there thinking God,
number five could go out and just shell one straight
to a fielder for eleven and then all of a
sudden we're four down. Whereas if you've got someone that
built a bit of a partnership, we know how dangerous
part can be when he's given a platform and a
bit of a license.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
But I just think that he's obviously still trying to
find a bit.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
Of form after the significant injury that he's come back from,
and I just think it's just the way that he
bats doesn't lend itself to be hold reliable at five.

Speaker 6 (13:47):
It's mental.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
I don't know if we're When you can see him
in that second indagy, you've really seen him get struggling
with himself because he's about thirty off what about one
hundred balls, and we're going okay, they looked relatively solid
and he had put away the stupid shots.

Speaker 1 (14:05):
But they decided to stay a long hot so and
like at that point it was starting to get easy, Australia,
Like right when they've been in there for a whole session,
they've battered, spread the field. Travis Head's coming on like
you've nearly you've nearly saved the test. Australia right on
the oppressives of like this is going to be a draw.
We're just throwing spaghetti at the wall and seeing what's

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six now, and part immediately falls into the trap and
tries to hit a long hop out to mid Wigi
for six, when all they needed to do was just
bunt that along the ground and they could just rotate
the strike and maybe even set themselves up for a
bit of it, like a bit of a dash at.

Speaker 3 (14:41):
The end if they managed to hold.

Speaker 4 (14:44):
I personally think that they had decided when they come
to the ground that day. They really showed no great
intent that all in their first session, and yet we bold,
we bowled really well, but well.

Speaker 7 (14:55):
Those pat commings were saying, though, hope clearly trying to
play for a little victory in the.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
First session, were like to be fair though coming I
haven't seen comments and Stark bowl that well without getting
wicked like they were awesome absolutely all, especially with Start
coming in under a bit of an injury cloud. I
was like, oh man, this could be anything. Stark was
fantastic that second innings. He deserved probably three wickets with
that new rock. He just the amount of times he

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went past the bat. Suppose we should, actually, before we
go too much into Australia's march to victory, talk about
how India managed to set themselves up, because even with
the heroics of Ready, they were still well over one
hundred runs behind.

Speaker 6 (15:34):
And it was just some.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
There's no I can't think of it.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
I'm just going to go brilliance because I can't think
of the best word to summ up what Jaspitt Boomer
has done, but reduced Australia to six for ninety gave
India a real shot if they could just clean up
the tail of turning what was a four hundred run
first innings lead by Australia into a very chasable fourth

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innings chase with plenty of time.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
But again one stage they would have been thinking we
could go and here we're gonna we're not over one
hundred and twenty and be chasing.

Speaker 6 (16:12):
Actually two seventy seventy took Pat cover and it took coming.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
The native lion doug Us out the bowlers.

Speaker 6 (16:21):
Chasing too fifty.

Speaker 7 (16:23):
They get it's a very different game, you know, like
they've got so many dangerous players. They need two good partnerships.

Speaker 6 (16:30):
And the run rate was never going to be an
issue before day to play. He disappointed.

Speaker 4 (16:35):
If you won't score on two fifty in a day's place,
that would have really swung things back. Well, that had
six for ninety, but we're fucking six or two hundred basically.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
And yeah, it's interesting how good a player Bomber has
been in this series. Okay, so we've had Stark bowling
probably as good as we've ever seen in bowl keeps
in terms of line length and all of that.

Speaker 6 (17:03):
Comens's bin, Pat Cummins and.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Josh Hazel before he got injured, was bowling very well,
was at a very I think he's taken his wickets
at thirteen for the summer. Scott Boland has come in
and done fantastic. We've played in some very fast bowling
friendly wickets with arguably the best bowling attack in the world,
and Jaspit Boomra has kept pace with the Australian bowling

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attack almost by himself himself. Saraja's on paper got some
very good well not very good, he's got some acceptable numbers.
I think he's taken some wickets of what twenty eight,
which you're not going to turn your nose up that,
but it's just been like that's largely coming through where
he got that forfit where he bowled out the tail
when Australia had play after like Travis Head scored that

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one fifty had flayed him around the park and then
he's picked up a few late wickets. You know, the
support hasn't been there from the other bowlers and yet
Jaspit boomer on his own has kept just India in
Test matches against what is probably the best four prong
attack on the planet. And it's mind boggling how good

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he's been.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
His performance.

Speaker 1 (18:12):
I think I saw a fantastic sort of video meme
which was a scene from Goodwill Hunting where Robin Williams
is saying to Matt Damon that it's it's not your fault,
your fault, and then Matt Damon eventually breaks down. But
it was like Indian cricket fans written over Robin Williams
and then Jasper Former written over Matt Damon. So it

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was just like, you've done everything that you could have done,
everything he could have done.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
I mean, it's amazing to watch the point where you
just feel every ball he boils, he's a chance because
of the way that he goes about it. He's just
targeting the stumps. He biles a pretty full length of
somebody as sharp as what he is. And you know
some of those hitting that high one thirty early one for.

Speaker 6 (19:03):
Moving the old ball. He's moving a new ball.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
He finds where there's where nobody else is getting it
off for straight.

Speaker 6 (19:11):
It's just, h have you seen anything like it?

Speaker 4 (19:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (19:14):
And he he doesn't feel the neat to engauge with either.

Speaker 7 (19:21):
No, he'll go past the edge and he'll just smile
at him like there's there's this quiet confidence to it,
like I'm.

Speaker 6 (19:28):
Going to get to you eventually.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
But you know, well, a lot of that come from
the fact too, that he gets to run his own race.
You can imagine if he's had someone like Sam Constiens
coming at him, Like if there was someone coming at
him really making him work for it, put the pressure
back on him. I don't think he'd be quite so jovial,
but he has just had the run of the country
since he's.

Speaker 7 (19:45):
Gotten that small reaction and Sam Conscience, but even then
it was pretty positive and it was like it was
him reving up the Indian crowd like Sam Consience was
to the Australia.

Speaker 6 (19:55):
I think there's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (19:58):
But I think that the lack of nigg and the
lack of any sort of really sort of barking at
the Batsmen come from the fact that he knows that
he's going to get them, whereas he hasn't really been
tested at any point in this series other than that
first session of the and so I don't think he'd
be quite so jovial if you know, he was if

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he got into a groove and the Aussies are sort
of getting into him and he really needed a dict.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Even Bull well and to get on top.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
I don't, but I think the fact that he just
he walks up, he gets a fifer and then asks
the other Indian bowlers to just grab the other five,
could you please? So I don't have to do it all?
And he knows, he knows he's just going to walk in.
He's going to set the place, he's going to burn
the place down, he's going to walk out. And I
think that's why he's obviously quite so positive, because he's
he's getting.

Speaker 6 (20:45):
His own way. But you wish CHARMI like back in
him up.

Speaker 1 (20:49):
Oh man, we are lucky that fully fit Muhammad Chami
has not been on this tour.

Speaker 6 (20:53):
Yeah, well, I think the conditions as the way they've been.

Speaker 4 (20:57):
Imagine having show me up him picking up to twenty
wid sc very very different series.

Speaker 6 (21:03):
Easy work was.

Speaker 7 (21:04):
Yeah, he's the guy at the other end and you go, okay,
ten overs for twenty runs and he'll do that.

Speaker 6 (21:12):
He just keeps coming so that they'd be the perfect
foil for each other.

Speaker 4 (21:16):
You know.

Speaker 3 (21:17):
I actually think Akhash Steep has been very very young lucky.

Speaker 4 (21:20):
He has bowled a couple of spells in this series
that have just been unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
He's got the absolutely no reward.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
For apparently he's out for this Test as well. They've yeah,
got a bit of a back. He's come out with
an injury.

Speaker 6 (21:34):
I'll have to go back to run.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Think no, the other they're going to the other fastball
and they've brought too or I'm pretty sure. I suppose
before we jump into talking more about the Sydney Test,
we should have to talk about what a phenomenal fourth
innings that was. I mean, it was one of them.

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Was the most watched Test match in Australian history. Three
hundred and seventy five thousand people attended seventy five thousand
on Day five, which is just unbelieva.

Speaker 3 (22:05):
I mean, admittedly, it's the holiday period.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
It's you know, it's it's easier to get a big
crowd for all five days when no one's working sort
of thing. But you know, it's still nearly four hundred
thousand people to attest, but nearly soldout crowd for day five.
To the point apparently they were that they didn't anticipate
the crowd that they got that they had to go.
They were getting people shipping in high screams and through

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to drink during the day because they knew they did
not have enough.

Speaker 6 (22:32):
Well, what an.

Speaker 7 (22:32):
Excellent initiative to make Day five tickets ten bucks to
the point where like I was, like, guys, can we go?
Melbourne is about a half hours from where we are,
not Like, it was almost almost worth it. If the
stars would have aligned, it would have happened.

Speaker 3 (22:52):
If my employment didn't get in the way.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
I was very close to just go. You know what
I'm keen for this, Let's just do the craziest road trip.

Speaker 7 (23:01):
Yeah, so evering to do an eight hour road trip,
you can just imagine like just people around Melbourne, Victoria,
you know, like Bend to Go, those kinds of places
just be like ten dollars tickets.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
I think that I think that they said the opening
sort of takes and one sort of play. It started
in that first sort of hour, it was sitting around
twenty six thousand people, and then yeah, by the time
tea had set in, it had balloons to seventy five.
Now we're used to looking at Day five where the
grounds are three quarters empty and you're just sort of
you're just there to watch the mop up of what's happened.

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But this obviously was a fantastic contest that went when
the distance went all the way down to after tea,
it was.

Speaker 6 (23:42):
Probably the most exciting day to go tech.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Yeah, it would have been, particularly with the twos and
frozen because certainly at the start of the day, with
the way the Australians bold, you think we're right in this,
and then the Indians have held out, well maybe not,
And then always felt like once you once you broke
through and got into the middle order, that things would

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start to happen, because I think it was a pretty
difficult win the battle actually on that.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Last day, being probably quite a nitpicky and criticizing their
you know, he was selected to bat at eight and
is a bowler.

Speaker 3 (24:20):
Do we think that Washington Sundan did enough to protect
the tail at the end?

Speaker 1 (24:24):
There he gave, he gave, he didn't, he didn't. He
didn't force the try to force the rotation of the
strike at the end, and so like he batted out.
He had a throwing three balls, three or four balls
to face on two overs where he just batted them out,
didn't even look like trying to force a signal a single.

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And then in the subsequent over we got Boomra out
and then the same thing, you know, face off and
over of didn't try to force a single at all,
was kept on strike and then the subsequent over line
then got Saraja.

Speaker 4 (24:59):
And that was I actually thought that was a really
good piece of captaincy by by Pad Cummins to leave
Lye on because he looked like he was bowling really well.
But I guess the temptation want to be I will
bring back, We'll bring back the toe crusher and see
if he could just knock it over. But now he
persisted with Lion and Saraj was I'm not sure how

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far he missed that vibe, but I guarantee it was
more than a hitch.

Speaker 1 (25:24):
Well, I think they were backing that Sarag's defensive technique
was with it, Like with four hundred people standing around
the bat, they were likely to grab an edge, grab
a glove on the way through things like that as
opposed to you know, it.

Speaker 7 (25:39):
Was beautifully but still by Lion, that's just that fine wicked,
just the the flight to disrupt his foot back.

Speaker 6 (25:48):
Yeah, I mean likes still at the talent end.

Speaker 7 (25:51):
His footwork wasn't going to be great to start with here,
but he bowled the perfect balls to a number eleven.

Speaker 4 (25:56):
Then, yeah, particularly one that's just going to try and
prop My first consume when I said it is that
it may he may have just been outside the line, but.

Speaker 3 (26:10):
The technology said.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
I think, I think his feet would have been outside
the line. But I think where it's hit him on
the pad it was we was in saw Obviously Hawky
proved that it was hitting in line with the stunt
so and so obviously then I think before we press
on to talk about Sydney, we should definitely be talking
about the well what the Indians are calling the elephants
in the room, which was some controversial d RS decisions,

(26:35):
So it wasn't controversial.

Speaker 6 (26:36):
I didn't think it was particularly controversial.

Speaker 4 (26:39):
Like from it looked like he hit the cover off
it from the first look, look I can looked at it.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
I think the right decision was made, but it was
made in what would be a confusing way for the
public when they don't understand how the system is for
d r S work. Obviously, talking about the gisch Old
dismissal where there was a massive deflection through the air,
the fact that it was not given out live was

(27:04):
was staggering because if quite obviously has hit something on
the way through. It could only have been battle glove,
like it wasn't forearm, wasn't shoulder, wasn't helmet. He could
only have been battle glove. Very obvious deflection then and
it was through. So they've gone through Australia's quite rightly

(27:26):
then reviewed it. Ice Walls actually then made like he's
looked like he's walked, and then and then and Giswall's
sort of nodded and Travis heads like, yeah, all right, cool,
we'll get this. So they've gone through replays clearly show
a the ball hitting the glove b after the ball

(27:48):
has gone past the glove or bat changing trajectory, but
when they go to real time shicko, nothing has come up.
And so at this point the Indians have all thought, okay,
we've got away with this one. That they're going to
overturn it.

Speaker 6 (28:01):
We're not.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
They're going to stay not out because that was decision.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
On field, whereas the third umpire has then said no,
like there's clear and obvious evidence that there is a
deflection that has looked at tip the glove either to
change a decision to how so, which I think is
the right decision, and that and then so obviously, Sonny
Gaviscara and all of the other Indians have absolutely blown
up about it.

Speaker 4 (28:23):
Really starting to annoy me that Sonning of Ascar. It's
just one big constant wing from the blow.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
But the annoying thing is about it is not well
other Sonny ofv Ascar is he's of crazy person. He's
talking about it being an optical illusion. But most of
the people who were talking about it acknowledge that Joyce
Walls hit it, but they don't like the technicality of
how they got to that decision. So it's like you're
happy with the you'd be happy with the wrong decision

(28:50):
being made in a Test match like this, but because
they didn't follow the right path, you would like the
wrong decision to be made if isn't in the other
way around. If this has been you know, Usmond Kowaja
on his way to saving the Test for Australia and
they gave him not out on a technicality. They maybe
blood blown up and it was really interesting. They had

(29:13):
the interviewed Simon Teufel about it and they said that's
actually Snicko is not the deciding factor. It is a redundancy.
So if there is clear and obvious visual evidence that
the ball has hit the bat. Snicko is not actually
required to make that determination, which is what's happened there.

Speaker 7 (29:31):
So Simon Twerful basically said that shouldn't have gone to
snicker because that was just confusing for people.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Yeah, which is like what you see it all the time.
If there's an LBW shout, for example, where it's clear
and obvious that the ball has not hit the bat
on the way through, they don't go ask for rts.
They go it's obvious the ball has not hit the bat,
bring up the ball tracking ready, and we don't do
sneaker to see if his edge onto his pads. This

(29:58):
is just the reverse here. It's clear and obvious evidence
that he has hit the ball, and so Schnecko is
not required.

Speaker 6 (30:07):
So how do you think that missed it? Is it
because the microphone was sort of away from it.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
It would looked like it was possibly only a glancing blow,
and it's gloves sort of muffled a lot of the sound,
and it was obviously above his head.

Speaker 3 (30:22):
So probably the furthest point away from the microphone that.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
You could be. So, I don't know, Maybe it was
just an issue with the microphones at that point. But
at the end of the day, I think we can
all agree that the right decision was made. He's obviously
hit the ball and it was for the layman.

Speaker 7 (30:41):
There are Indian commentators and fans who've admitted that, yeah,
he's definitely hit that. There are the qualms, some of
them are the process, Yeah, but the process is what
the process is. Yeah, the process was agreed upon, Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 (31:00):
You remember not that long.

Speaker 3 (31:02):
Ago how he was saying pal they didn't have any faith.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
In DRS and you know that's why they didn't want
to use it for their home series, and they finally
come around. It's turned out their use of DRS actually
in this series of atrocious.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
Well the thing is as well, and I'm not going
to go down this rabbit hole because we'll be talking
about it when we pull up to the SCG is.
You know, I really found it quite amusing when Rowan
Sharva was saying that they've been on the wrong side
of you know, the fifty to fifty DRS cause when
Joyce Wall in all honesty should have been given out
much earlier in the innings, When when Stark had him

(31:39):
plumb LBW absolutely just sold down the river LBW Joel
Wilson doesn't doesn't give it out, and that's showing to
be crashing into the top of leg, Whereas Joel Wilson
was quite happy to give Marnus Labershine out, who was
further down the crease hit him higher above the knee
roll and DRS has saved him by showing that there

(31:59):
was just enough of a kriger ball flicking the bales
to retain umpires call, whereas in this one, I think
the frustrates me so much about this particular one. Is
the deciding factor in being bold is the bales, and
they're not included. I think, I don't know for sure,

(32:21):
but I think it's because the bales aren't the same
height like that that's not a level of well, no,
they're standard size, but the bales go up and then
down in the middle and then up and then so
it's not a level across the whole thing. So they
go from the highest point that is level the whole

(32:42):
way across. Because it's a computer algorithm, because if it's
you know, I don't understandstand why. But if you go
for that bit where the pegg is as opposed to
the actual bale, it's slightly lower and in the balla
so they've just which is dumb. It's completely asinine. They
should just take the to the highest point of the
als and play for there. And if you include the baials,
it's absolutely more than fifty percent of the ball was

(33:04):
hitting the stumps, but it's stay not out. Should have
been given out on field. Gyce well gets a reprieve.
The Australians carry on and go with like Joel Wilson.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Is an awful, awful umpire.

Speaker 1 (33:14):
He has been bad for a long period of time
and that game should have been well and truly done
and dusted well before that when Star could knock Joyce
well over.

Speaker 6 (33:23):
But can they bring Simon do it would be able
to dudicate on this test anyway.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Well, have they changed? I think they've gone back to
the normal rules.

Speaker 1 (33:32):
They were allowing one home umpire during the throes of COVID,
but I think now they've gone back to no home
umpires for four Test matches.

Speaker 6 (33:40):
And there is a reason why we have what we
don't have home umpires. And I have no problem to
be honest with you.

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yeah, there's there's been some dubious well everyone not just Australia.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
But there's been plenty of dubious home umpires looking after
the looking after the boys in days gone by. But
as we all know, if anyone has listened to the
podcast for any stretch of time, I'm sure that I
have read it about this. A nauseum is that there
should not be umpires call for LBW. It should just
be you work out what percentage drop.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
The ball is required.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Be at fifty, be at thirty seven, but at eleven whatever,
pick a number that is the minimum requirement the ball
has to be to be doing what it's doing. And
if it's the computer tracking algorithm says that it's doing it,
then it is out. Because you cannot tell me that
a pensioner from twenty five meters away watching it at

(34:33):
one hundred and thirty five kilometers per hour at real
time with one look is more accurate than a sophisticated
computer tracking program with dozens of cameras that are all
doing predictive telemetry. I know which one I would be
putting more faith in. But no, this person who DRS

(34:54):
is supposed to be black and white. You're giving me
a black and white answer. You're going to You're going
to the video replay Diddy it yes no? Is it
hitting the stumps?

Speaker 6 (35:02):
Yes no?

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Did he cross the line before the bails were taken off?

Speaker 3 (35:06):
Yes no.

Speaker 1 (35:07):
But with LBW it's just like, oh, it's pretty close,
so we'll just take old mates word for it. Just
you tell everyone, this is the step, the level that
we're playing to, this is what it is, and you
just play to that.

Speaker 3 (35:20):
No one's being disadvantaged.

Speaker 1 (35:22):
And what you do then is you get rid of
You get rid of, review retained if it's out, if
you if you review it. If you review it and
you're right, you keep it. If you're wrong, you lose it.
And that way you're still leaving it in the hands
of the umpires because now teams have to be more
frugal with how they spend them, which then gets you

(35:45):
what you want, which is a little bit of human
error because it's the nature of the game.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
You deal with the human error.

Speaker 1 (35:52):
But you shouldn't have the safeguard, you know, the limited
time offer that we provide to safeguard against poor human error.

Speaker 3 (36:02):
Sullied by that human error.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
It should be taken completely out of it, what the
umpire says, and you just give me a yes, or
no answer. Technology says yes, technology says no, and you
live with that result. You don't muddy that by incorporating
the actual decision that you're trying to overturn into it.
It's like when they give soft signals for catches in

(36:24):
the outfield there and the square leg umpire is over
one hundred meters away and I think it's in, and
the player has caught it in such a way that
his body is shielding the cats, and the umpire is like, yeah, out,
and then they.

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Use that to determine I haven't got really enough evidence.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
It's like, well, you've got more evidence than what the
umpire had making this decision.

Speaker 5 (36:46):
Just yeah, anyway, should they should ask the guy on
the boundary be whose was watching? Which one the guy
who's twelve scoon is in.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
Closer? Is closer?

Speaker 6 (37:01):
Closer?

Speaker 1 (37:03):
Al Right? I think that'll do for Boxing day. It
was absolutely phenomenal test match. I think probably top five
test matches that I have seen in this country ever.

Speaker 6 (37:15):
Had amazing Adelaide vines.

Speaker 1 (37:18):
I can think of three test matches that have resonated
with me more and that would be probably it, and
that would be amazing Adelaide. That would be the Sydney
Test from that same series when Warren mcgraarh and Langer retired,
and in all honesty, it is the nostalgia of those

(37:39):
legends retiring that gives at that level rather than the
actual content of the game.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
It was absolutely belt at them.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
It was a much boxing day, was a much better
game in terms of the quality of cricket than that
Sydney Test. But I just think saying goodbye to Langer,
saying goodbye to McGrath, saying goodbye to Warn just emotionally
resonates with me. And the other one that I think
would put up there would be the Adelaide Test match
in twenty fourteen after Phil Hughes died, when Smith and

(38:07):
Clark scored those amazing hundreds and then Lion bolded the
victory late on day five, and that would be. That's
all that I can really think of in this country,
there being that I would consider better Test matches.

Speaker 7 (38:21):
So remember one as a kid that we lost Craig
McDermott supposedly gloved one down the leg side of Courtney Welsh.

Speaker 3 (38:30):
Yeah we lost by one run, one run.

Speaker 6 (38:33):
Yeah, I think that was a pretty great Test and that.

Speaker 4 (38:37):
Was that was where the West Indies was standing on
the precipice of being undone by us and they that
was the that was their last gas lucky escape though,
to be honest with you, and from there on, yeah,
they won the state, won the series at the end
of the day, but we knew we could beat them
and that was fun.

Speaker 6 (38:55):
That was where it all started for us.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
That's a shame though, because it wasn't Border that then
talk them to that inevitable victory.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
That was his last chance and he suffered at the
hands of the West Indies so much. We'll not him
personally because he used to do it like he's phenomenon,
but yeah, we used to get beaten by them for fun.

Speaker 6 (39:14):
Yeah, yeah, and that.

Speaker 7 (39:16):
Was like that was really a lot of our success
in that goldment area. You have to attribute to Alan
Border in that period. Absolutely, he planted the seats.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
Yeah, him and Bobby Simpson anyway, we can talk about,
but we have more important we have.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
More important issues to discuss, that being where we're heading
right now.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
So we're we're currently traveling through the Blue Mountains of
a New South Wales.

Speaker 3 (39:42):
So if anyone's out on the road there, you don't
want to poke head out we'll.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
Actually do because by the time you hear it will
be well passed. So we're not broadcasting broadcasting, So don't
bok head out to see where driving past because we'll
be long gone by the time where you hear this.

Speaker 3 (39:59):
So we're on away the seg And finally we've got
what we've been calling for for a while. That is
a debut for bow Webster.

Speaker 1 (40:08):
Yes, good luck, bo. It's good to see that finally
way runs and wickets at domestic level is being rewarded,
because you've got to feel that in recent times that
has not been the case that it's been. Will persist
with the players that we know, and we know they'll

(40:32):
come good, and you know, largely they do they have
come good. But in this case, yeah, it's just you know,
the combination of marsh really playing poorly over the last
little while and then Webster are obviously playing incredibly well
as forced to select his hands, and we've got what

(40:53):
I think has been a necessary change because they've persisted
with Mitchell stark and as much as I love Starky,
we all know that he is good for a fade
out in a long Test series. Yeah, he's coming under
a bit of an injury cloud and I just don't
think they backed Marsh's ability to handle workloads should anything

(41:15):
happen to Mitchell Stark.

Speaker 7 (41:16):
Well, I don't think he was fit. I think they
were underplaying. I mean they were overstating his fitness.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
Because this Marshall stuck Marsh Yeah.

Speaker 6 (41:26):
Yeah, because when he came on to bowl, he was
he was dropping below one twenty. So yeah, that doesn't
screen to me. I've never seen him do that before.

Speaker 7 (41:37):
Yeah, Like he's always mid one twenties, can touch into
the high one thirties.

Speaker 6 (41:44):
So yeah, I don't think he was one.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
I personally think that they went down that road with
Mitch Marsh and they've decided, for better or for worse,
that we're going to persist with him regardless until it
got to the stage where you.

Speaker 6 (42:02):
Just couldn't persist with him anymore. And that's where there at.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
And look, we're all good for a bit of marsh bashing.
But you know, since that Winter tour of the West
Indies in the Odie I series where he's established himself
as a gun white ball player, he has been near
faultless for Australia. For the white ball team, Cam Green
picked up an injury over in the ashes, Marsh came

(42:25):
in and played one of the the better ashes hundreds
that I've ever seen, important and I think really earned
his spot back in the side. He bowled okay, without
being brilliant, but certainly good enough with a bowling attack.
We had to sort of just you know, you know,
change them. But you know you had Cameron Green as well,

(42:46):
so we had two all round us, so Marsh wasn't
really asked to.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
Do a lot of the bowling. You're always going to
ask Green to bowl before you asked Marsh.

Speaker 1 (42:53):
The mind, he came home and he had a couple
of a couple of good knocks and solid fifties. I
think there was a ninety and eighty in that home
series over there. So he's saying, okay, he's batting well,
he's earned his spot on the side. But then from
there the runs have started to wane, and I think
with Marsh.

Speaker 6 (43:11):
He come back or is he no?

Speaker 1 (43:14):
And I think this is what we've been talking about
before the podcast as well, is the Marsh hasn't improved
as a player. He's improved of mind. When he came
out he was given a license to just play. How
you play and he was confident. The ball was coming
off well, which made him more confident, which made the
ball come off even better, and it was just a

(43:34):
cycle that fed itself. He was playing how he knew
how to play, Things were going well, and he was
feeling better and playing better.

Speaker 4 (43:41):
Now.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
He's done that before when he was recalled in the
twenty seventeen ashes and scored those really big hundreds against
England against the beaten English side, went over to South Africa,
was playing well over there, scored a pretty good ninety
against a good bowling attack, and then you know, things
got a little bit difficult, and then the reverse happened.
Without confidence, his lack of technical ability became more apparent,

(44:06):
which when he would then struggle with his confidence, which
would cause him to struggle even more, and then that
was the vicious cycle the other way and he ended
up being dropped. And so I think at this point
we've come to the point where we know, Okay Marsh
is now not really a Test quality player. He can
be a Test quality player on day on his day,

(44:26):
but he's a momentum player. And when he doesn't have
the momentum, it feeds on itself and it makes it
really hard for him to work through that. He's not
a player that you could just sit there if the
runs aren't coming. That he'll defend his way through and
grind to a twenty or a thirty and start to
becoming a bit more fluent. If he's not getting what
he wants early in the innings, it's not going to

(44:49):
happen for him.

Speaker 4 (44:50):
Now.

Speaker 1 (44:51):
I'm really happy for Mitch Marsh because he genuinely does
seem like one of the really good guys in international cricket.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
He got a crack. He's hit some really high points
in his Test career.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
But at thirty three, with webs now on the side,
cam Green to come back, and then guys like Hardy
and Sutherland and all those guys coming through, I don't
think we'll see Mitch Marsh in a bagging green again.
But you know, I'm really happy for him that he's
hit some of those highs. I still think he has
a lot to offer at the white ball game. I

(45:22):
don't think we're going to see the end of Mitch
Marsh as an Australian cricketer, but I think unfortunately his
Test career has ended in a bit of a whimper.

Speaker 4 (45:31):
But the thing is still like, well, when you look
back in ten years and they look at at the photos,
who was Victoria's team?

Speaker 6 (45:37):
He's going to be in it, isn't he?

Speaker 4 (45:38):
Yeah, it's a lot like I think guys like Matthew
Wade and stuff like that who've had less than decorated
careers numbers wise, but have been there in some pretty amazing.

Speaker 3 (45:50):
Situations that you look back on and they're part of
part of history. And I don't think his is going
to be particularly kind to the March the Test players.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
He's going to finished with twenty seven batting average or
twenty eight batting average and nearly forty bowling average, So
the question will but is how he managed to play
so many Tests for Australia, but which is probably about
thirty five too many. But you know, it was good

(46:20):
to see that he hit those highs and we could
see what Mitchell Marsh in full flight could really offer.
And I hope that that continues for the next few
years in white ball cricket, because I think he has
a lot to offer there.

Speaker 3 (46:29):
But I would say unfortunately that Marsh is now.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
He's on the way out and we probably won't see
him in a bag of green again. But I'm going
I'm going to take the high road and wish him
well as a Test cricketer.

Speaker 3 (46:43):
I know that we've bashed him quite a lot, but.

Speaker 6 (46:47):
A fantastic guy.

Speaker 3 (46:49):
Apparently it makes a fantastic coffee. Apparently flogs all of
them a call of duty and that appeals to me.
I like that about Mitchell March and.

Speaker 6 (46:58):
He left his baggy green. You our friend? Remember that?

Speaker 1 (47:03):
Oh yeah?

Speaker 6 (47:04):
On the show, his son asked if he could.

Speaker 1 (47:08):
Have a photo wearing his bag of green in a marsh.
I don't know if I would do that, and I
know them well. I don't think i'd do that for them,
any of the Baggerina is mine. They're like one of
the more precious possessions that I'd have. But no, Like,
he seems just such a great bloke and you can
tell that that's probably what's carried him through that they

(47:30):
know what he can do and they're willing to persist
because he's such a good guy to have around the team.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
And apparently the first thing that he said was when
he was dropped with.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Yeah, I get it. I haven't been scoring the runs
or getting the wickets, and needed I really hope bo
rips in and that was it Like that's not like, oh,
super disappointed or like it's just the first thing is like, yep,
I get it.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
I hope the next guy is awesome. So you need
guys like that.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
We just wish he had guys like that that could
also play cricket system would be fantastic. So moving over
to the other side, speaking of disarray, India coming into
this side with all sorts of questions. So I've already
covered as deep as out and wrote it. Apparently from
what I've heard heading as we're traveling down to the

(48:19):
ground this morning has been dropped or rested and Jaspit
Brumer will be taking his place and as captain.

Speaker 4 (48:27):
I believe that phrasing was opted out, opted opted out. Wow,
that's that's getting very nice. In so that Johnathan shot
Graham Swan, I can't.

Speaker 6 (48:38):
Deal with it anymore.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
I don't think that he has opted out. I think
he Gautam Gambier has opted him out. I can't imagine
that Roward Sharma would be just deciding he didn't brought
to play.

Speaker 7 (48:49):
Galtam Gambier was was full on, like quite testy at
the press conference. Was to I don't know if you've
seen him, but.

Speaker 4 (48:56):
Yeah, I've seen a little bit of a market, very like,
very reactive to the press.

Speaker 1 (49:02):
It's like they lost seven for forty six for forty
three or whatever. It was on a wicket that wasn't
obscenely difficult to be batting on, Like it wasn't easy,
but yeah, it certainly. And you know, like they just
watched Nathan Lyon and Pat Cummins score forties the day before.

(49:22):
I had to tear added that much. So this is
a batting lineup that has failed and got whitewashed at
home and then failed in basically every innings bar the
second innings at Perth in this Test, other than maybe
one or two. So I can see why it'd be
a little bit testing. But yeah, they've got some serious shakeups.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
Apparently.

Speaker 1 (49:41):
Richard part was very close to being dropped as well,
deliberately for his approach to the game. But I think
he's retained his spot.

Speaker 6 (49:51):
Well, he's going to be scoring rounds, doesn't he though
you can't.

Speaker 3 (49:55):
Be going out and playing like that.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
In I understand, And I'm not a great fan of
Sonny Cavascarez as a commentator, to be honest, with you.
But he's one hundred percent right in what he says
about you can't play that that way in certain situations,
you just can't.

Speaker 6 (50:14):
I like his conviction. It's a little bit of one
eye he's entirely, but I admire his conviction about it.
Just didn't he just didn't mince his words on the
radio there. He was just like I did that.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Just stupid but like it was, they were appalling, appalling
dismissals and quite honestly, it cost India the game. If
if Richard part bats for another half an hour, yeah,
they probably get through it in you and you don't
lose that game.

Speaker 3 (50:47):
Like it's just as simple as that. Like that that
opened the door.

Speaker 1 (50:51):
And then Pat Cummers went fulled kool aid man and
smashed it down, Like I love the reference and so
and that's why I think he's too high for five
because we can see what he does when he's given
a platform, like he should be used in a guil
Christ role for India batting coming in at six or

(51:12):
seven and just going.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
All right, she guys thought you were in trouble before.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Yeah, like you know, just that that whole like Avengers
Infinity War, where like they lose where Thoor rocks up
and then someone, oh, you guys are in so much
trouble now. It's like, yeah, the number six batsman walks
off the field after being dismissed, saying that the crowd,
you guys are in trouble now, as Richard walks out,
like that's what should be. It's just he's there to

(51:38):
go yeah cool, we'll let me add him. But I
think at five when there's especially when the batting lineup's
not we've talked about earlier, when batting lineups are firing, Yeah,
you got to go coming in at five, and I
have to be thinking that the Indian dressing er ever
sitting there with their like hands across their eyes, going
oh my god, this could be anything as opposed to
confidence that Okay, rich Sharp's going out.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
We're good now.

Speaker 1 (52:00):
It's like, oh man, we could either see marching back
in here after he fell on his own stumps trying
to ramp it, you.

Speaker 7 (52:07):
Know, like Constance got a couple of those rams and
they put blokes down there, and the nineteen year old
had the maturity to stop playing that shot. He started
playing down the ground and in front of square and
all of that he put the ramp shot away, but

(52:28):
they had two guys back behind square on the lake side.
A guy you know, flights like whatever you want to
call it, almost directly behind the keeper and.

Speaker 6 (52:38):
He still plays it. Now you're almost playing to his goo,
aren't you.

Speaker 1 (52:41):
Yeah, I think it's exactly what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (52:43):
They're just like, we know what you can do, and
you're going to try.

Speaker 7 (52:47):
And he's still in the same splot mentally that you
said around a few years ago. He believes his own home.
But like the reason that Gil Chris is legend is
I mean like he scored quickly, but he didn't score recklessly.
We never saw Gilchrist play a ramp shot. I know

(53:09):
it wasn't the thing at the time, but he would
play cricket shots and just play the very effectively.

Speaker 1 (53:16):
The thing is as well, gil Christ would read the
situation and play to that like it wouldn't just come
out and go right, I'm blazing away from Baurmark. He
would always be positive, but if the situation called for
him to be a little bit circumspect, he would be.
He would play circumspect. Like everyone remembers these what that
innings in Hobart against Pakistan second Test match, Like this

(53:37):
is a guy that's become like the destroyer of worlds
and you know, a strike rate of eighty which in
that period of time for.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
A Test batsman is absurd.

Speaker 1 (53:46):
But like he came out and played the sensible innings
until got into a position where he could be expensive,
whereas her partners in this position, and we know what
he can do. We as Australians have seen firsthand what
Richard part can do. But I just don't think he
has He hasn't earned the right to do that in
a lot of the innings that he's played and where

(54:06):
teams are essentially baiting him into getting out playing these
shots knowing that he will get himself out. It's almost
like we don't try to bowl him out or nick
him off or rap him on the pads. We'll just
set guys back for the ramp and he will hit
it to us. He's kind of the cricket version of
Barty McFly no one chick. They bait him into doing

(54:34):
this stuff so easily. For end of our younger audience
out there haven't seen it. Back to the future, you should,
you should. So a bit of analysis about the Test.
So obviously the standings are if Australia win or draw
this Test, I am ninety percent sure given the calculations

(54:55):
that are going on that doesn't matter what happens in
Sri Lanka, we will qualify for the World Test Championship
Final against South Africa. India I believe need to win
the Test and for Sri Lanka to beat us to
Niil for them to qualify could be wrong. I'm sure
someone will correct me if I'm not, but yeah, so

(55:18):
obviously all the play for for the World Test Championship standings.
Obviously India, of the loss that in Melbourne, has put
their backs up against the wall, and obviously as well
there as been the current holders of the Border Gavesca Trophy.

Speaker 3 (55:30):
They need a win here in Sydney to retain.

Speaker 1 (55:33):
The trophy, and obviously Australia needs either a win or
a draw and then we'll finally get that trophy back
for the first time since twenty fourteen. I think that
would have been the Phil Hughes Test Series. That would
be the last time that we held it, so the
first time in ten years that we have held the
Border Gavascar Trophy. So obviously quite a lot to play for.

(55:56):
I am a little concerned about, obviously the the fitness
of Mitchell Stark. I think, especially if it goes down
early in the Test, trying to get through those injuries, we.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
Could be in for a world of hurts.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
As we know that it's despite being the spinner's wicket,
spin doesn't typically do well as Sydney, it's not really the.

Speaker 6 (56:16):
Spinner's wicket anymore.

Speaker 4 (56:17):
The only thing I would say to that but is
I think this year, I mean the last couple of
years we've had wekish weather around about this time. I
think this year that we get a couple of days
where the sun really gets onto the wicket and may
break it up and allow for a little bit more
spin than month we've seen over the last few years.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
And that is very true.

Speaker 3 (56:37):
Unfortunately for us. This is statistically Nathan Lyon's first round
in Australia, so.

Speaker 6 (56:45):
Stark as well.

Speaker 4 (56:46):
Yeah, you know, these guys don't traditionally do well on this,
on this featherbed wicket that they've been producing in Sydney
for the last couple of years.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
But on the flip side, Steve Smith scores a lot
of runs here, which is what I'm all about. Yeah, well,
I want to see number thirty five either today, well,
ideally probably sometime tomorrow because Sam Constas has brought up
number one and we don't need Smith until late in
the afternoon.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
But the thing is, if Sam Constence brings up number one,
there's probably more than enough time in the David Stauf
to come out make a hundred.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Anyway, I don't think that Australia should get used to
the fact that Sam Constace is going to play that
five ram shots in the first hour of a Test
match because I watched both of his innings at the
Cricket Central against South Australia and he didn't play anything
remotely resembling those sort of shots. In fact, he brought

(57:40):
up his fifty off one hundred and twenty seven balls
and then like he played a very typical opener's knock,
he then started to accelerate and I think he made
his you know, he got to one hundred before he
got to two hundred balls, but that was what he did.
He got in he played a solid defense, very still,
the wicket left a lot of balls. I think obviously

(58:00):
got that attacking game in him, as we've seen at
you know, the PMS eleven's game at Boxing Day, at
that game for the Thunder and his debut game, absolutely
phenomenal ball striking.

Speaker 3 (58:12):
But I would think that once.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
He settled into his groove playing for Australia, that you'll
probably see maybe not quite a steady as she goes,
But I don't necessarily think that that's going to be
the norm for Sam Concains. I think he is a
very he can be a very classical cricketer that has
that gear that he can change into. And you could

(58:34):
tell that when they immediately placed the guys back there
for the ramp, he just put it. He put it
away and was trying to play very very orthodox, very straight,
trying to defend, you know, glance off his pads and
then obviously got a good rock.

Speaker 6 (58:49):
From bomb promising to see that he had a plan
for woman, he had a way that he was going
to do with him.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Will be interesting to see if they go back to
that strategy of cutting off that ramp, if if Constance
can battle Boomera in a more traditional orthodox way, hitting
him off his length in front of the wicket when
the balls pitched up because it was a release valve,
pitching the ball up, attacking the dump teed ramp him.

(59:21):
They put the ramp, the players back for the ramp.
He couldn't play that shot. Does he still have the
ability to put the pressure back on Boomra playing more
traditional cricket shot. So that'll be the big That'll be
the big test now, is you know, do you have
a way of being this positive without being that reckless?
But very very exciting to come out and do what

(59:43):
he did at Boxing Day at nineteen, I think, well,
I think he'll be okay.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
But he certainly looks like he's half for the challenge.

Speaker 1 (59:51):
The a.

Speaker 6 (59:54):
He has to wear, he's woody upside down.

Speaker 7 (01:00:00):
It's almost as good as balls.

Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
So we're obviously very very excited.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
We'll be down there for Day one, looking forward to
watching all of the cricket unfold. As I think we're
all we're all we're all thinking we want to bat
first year.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
We're wanting to see Constance and co.

Speaker 6 (01:00:19):
I don't mind either way, but yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:00:24):
I would like us to bat first.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
I would like to be bowling last on the SCG
wicket rather than chasing, partly because I just want to
see the young kid go at it.

Speaker 3 (01:00:34):
I think it could be you know, if history is
anything to go by.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
You know, they're typically slow wickets, which means that it
could be a bit of a slog for the bowlers
and I'd rather watch the Indian slog it while I'm
there watching some runs come up on our side, as
oppose our precious time.

Speaker 4 (01:00:50):
Needs to be shed all watching to fly to the
fence from Australian bats.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Indian we are absolutely one eye and unapologetically so. So
we're hoping obviously Australia go out there, Patty wins the
toss that goes in, we score ever runs and then
you know, we roll. India come out of their three
to one. Job done on Shri Laka, well Shredland.

Speaker 4 (01:01:16):
I mean, we haven't really looked at the World Test
standings for a little while and lot through all the permutation.
But from what I understand, if things went a certain way,
shrew Lanker could almost make it in.

Speaker 1 (01:01:27):
But I don't believe that is the case.

Speaker 4 (01:01:30):
I think they needed needed a result in South Africa.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
Yeah, I think so, And I think they needed like
the Border Gavesca Trophy to go a particular way.

Speaker 6 (01:01:41):
Like it was.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
It was one of those ones that you get at
the end of the rugby League season where it's mathematically
possible but unl practically unlikely.

Speaker 3 (01:01:50):
Pakistan also was.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
In with a shout as well until they lost that test,
but I think again so of the border Gavaska results
also impacted that. And yeah, so essentially it is now
Australia or India are the ones that kid meets South Africa.
Full meet South Africa because they've qualified, which we will
talk about in a subsequent podcast. But I think that's

(01:02:16):
awesome news in South Africa are in. I know that's
come up with quite a lot of criticism and social
media and from obviously some pundits about the game, but
I've won a static that South Africa have made it.
I think it's fantastic for the game that South Africa
have done so, and for all the winding and owning
out there. If India had looked after their business at
home against New Zealand, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

(01:02:38):
It'd be Australia and India going over.

Speaker 6 (01:02:40):
You can only play to what the results are.

Speaker 3 (01:02:43):
You start the World Test Championship of a clean slate,
you know who you're going to play, you know where
you're going to play them, and you have a pretty
good idea actually going through what results you need to
get the business done. And India only needed to win one.

Speaker 6 (01:02:57):
Of those tests against New Zealand, I think, and in.

Speaker 4 (01:03:00):
Only one of them out of three, and then you
can't get whitewashed in your own conditions and line badly
they would badly be.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
At the end of the day, you know, South Africa
can only play against the people that are lining up
to play against them, so and they've buy and large
beaten those teams. So you know, if you don't think
it's fair that South Africa doesn't play with the big
teams like Australia and India, need to go and play them.
But at the end of the day, that's that's who
South Africa have drawn. That's what the scheduling has been,

(01:03:33):
and they've looked after the business as best as they
can and it's been enough for them to qualify. And
I think that's fantastic because I had real concerns in
South Africa given their financial situation, given the amount of
legends that have retired from that Graham Smith arside, and
given their predilection for playing whitewall cricket would be after
thoughts in the red ball game, and that's not the case.

(01:03:57):
They've managed to go I think largely on the back
of their bowling attack, but you know, their batting has
still got lots of question marks over it. But they've
done enough to win the games I needed to win
and now they get to try and win.

Speaker 3 (01:04:10):
An ICC.

Speaker 6 (01:04:13):
Trophy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:13):
So and you know what, South Africa have qualified for
multiple World Cups in the women's game, def now qualified
for the World Test Championship Final.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
So cricket is looking healthy over in South.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Africa after what's been an exodus of some of the
best players to have ever played the game, regardless of
whatever country. So I'm super super stoked that South Africa
is there. But will talk more about that in the
next tasspatch. Right now, we're focused on the board of
Gavesco Trophy and I'm going to ask it for the
sake of asking what the answer is going to be?

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Predictions, guys, what have we got?

Speaker 6 (01:04:49):
I think this one will probably be drawing, will win
two moneth I'm in Australia boys three to one, three
to one.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
I've got Australia as well. I think that I just
think that there's a little bit too much disarray in
that Indian side at the moment.

Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
You know, who knows what that lineup's going to be.

Speaker 1 (01:05:06):
You know, ro WIT's on the way out apparently though
that being said, when woman was in, woman was captaining,
they absolutely blasted us. Yeah, girls in for Shama batting
it three and put and Rahul back to the top.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
I just think that they're a bit shell shocked. I
don't think they're bowlers of outside of Booma have done
enough to really.

Speaker 4 (01:05:29):
Well, there's no thread outside of him. I mean Saraj
has had to make case spells. Oh gosh, Deeps bowled
very well without luck. But I mean, you know, you
can't have one like taking thirty wickets to twelve and
then your next results on eleven wickets at twenty nine
or something.

Speaker 1 (01:05:45):
It's too And it's just how he gets like, you know,
like the pressure of being like he's been good initially,
but then in like second and third and fourth spells,
Sarage has struggled to keep that pressure on, meaning that
Bomber has got to come back and bolmore Over us
any outlandish predictions, if you've got something that you'd either

(01:06:07):
like to see or that you think could happen, I.

Speaker 4 (01:06:11):
Would actually like to see Nathan Lyon, do you have
his best Test at the SEC during this time.

Speaker 3 (01:06:15):
I just get a.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
Feeling that if we can get some sun on the
wicket for a couple of days, it'll be prone to
breaking up a bit. Over the last week, I said,
the last couple of years we've had dambish, whether we've
had rain delays, we've had light, bad light stuff that,
and it hasn't really been that sort of continuous two
or three days, continuous play on the wicket that you

(01:06:39):
need to get it to break up. So yeah, I
would like to My outlandish prediction is Nathan Lyon and
grab a fire.

Speaker 3 (01:06:47):
I would like to see Mitchell starkatrick.

Speaker 6 (01:06:51):
That would be impressive. I want one of us to
dive over three rows of seats and take a catch
in the crowd.

Speaker 1 (01:07:00):
I'd tell you what, if a six is being hit
to where we have got our tickets, it is an
all mighty year.

Speaker 3 (01:07:06):
If you can get it up there to us, mate,
we'll be.

Speaker 1 (01:07:10):
We were we were a little disorganized for this one,
and obviously the New Year's Test whenever India's playing is
quite popular, so we would almost be better off watching
this Test from home, but we're going anyway. So if
we catch a six in the crowd, were either we're
either gone to go and get a beer and or

(01:07:30):
someone who's hit a world record breaking shot.

Speaker 6 (01:07:33):
So well, apparently.

Speaker 4 (01:07:37):
Simon O'Donnell hit one up into the top tier at
the Melbourne Cricket Ground and would have to be it
would have to be a comparable tight hit.

Speaker 7 (01:07:45):
I think did one that was even bigger at the MCG,
but it doesn't count because it wasn't in the first
class manage.

Speaker 3 (01:07:58):
The stadium size our big hope.

Speaker 6 (01:08:00):
Really he's a big fellow.

Speaker 3 (01:08:02):
That would be good.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
I would like to see I rack you know, a
couple of wickets at are fifty from Webster on one
d or one hundred to be good. But he's batting
at six, you know. Hopefully we don't leave enough work
for him to do the need needed to score one hundred.

Speaker 4 (01:08:17):
But well, I mean, we'll figures. He's the best case scenario,
semi constance. That's in the first session he's like eighty
and wus he's about twenty at lunch.

Speaker 6 (01:08:28):
Then he comes out.

Speaker 4 (01:08:29):
They push on a little bit in the middle session
but lose a few wickets and then both comes out
and say, I know half and half an hour.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
Before Teening's eye in and finishes the day one hundred
not out.

Speaker 6 (01:08:41):
I think the realistic threat, one realistic threat that we
haven't able talked about that hunch describing Jadasia he always
plays really well at Sydney.

Speaker 7 (01:08:51):
Yeah, yeah, quite, I'll give you that. Give both a
lot more of this stuff than I remember.

Speaker 4 (01:08:59):
He both or loose stuff away from India or I
think in India he tends to get away with a
lot of his loose stuff because of the nature of
the wickeds out here.

Speaker 6 (01:09:08):
You bowl. It's a long line.

Speaker 7 (01:09:10):
It's just I don't know his exact record, but I
remember launching Australia games yeh CG quite a few times
and he's ripped us apart and him along with.

Speaker 6 (01:09:24):
Which they won't have it.

Speaker 3 (01:09:26):
I actually really puzzled about the way that they treat Fold.

Speaker 4 (01:09:30):
I rat him very, very highly. His test record is outstanding,
but he can have the same thing in a game anywhere.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
They went with the three spin bowling all rounders essentially
Jadejah Ashman.

Speaker 3 (01:09:40):
And Washington and Washington Sunda.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
So yeah, it'll be interesting obviously now that Ashman's retired
and you know, you think that Jay is not too
far away from that himself.

Speaker 3 (01:09:52):
This is the last thought right before we go, because
we're we're still progressing through the mountains as it is.

Speaker 1 (01:09:58):
You know, this is the last obviously, if things go
the way that we're hoping they go, this with the
last Test this Indian side plays in this World Test
Championship cycle, they won't qualify for the final and then
they've got the new cycle starting.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
I think they've got a winter tour to England. How
many casualties from this tour do we think there will be?

Speaker 6 (01:10:18):
Do we quite a few? Do we?

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
Obviously Ashwan has done he's not playing anymore. You would
have to imagine if they're dropping Sharma the way that
it's been playing and giving the captaincy, it's a boomera
that this could possibly be the last time that Rowart
Sharma plays Test cricket. Do we not think Coley goes around?

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
Does Coley want to go around? That's where I think
he's at now.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
He's fallen into that position now where there's a bit
of speculation about him and they might go.

Speaker 6 (01:10:48):
He might go.

Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
You know what, I don't know this because okay, let's
just say that he gets knocked over for thirty in
Perth instead of scoring a one hundred. If it was
anyone other than Cola, do you think that he would
be playing in Sydney like he's been out of form
for quite a while, has not really looks like scoring

(01:11:09):
a great deal of runs other than that that one
hundred in Perth where the pressure was largely off at
that point. He hasn't really contributed in a meaningful way
with the game on the line in quite a while.
So could we could this be the last hurrah for
that that you know, very talented Indian core unit that

(01:11:31):
we've we've seen over the last few years.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
Do we think that Coli and Sharma go to England?
Do you think there a reset?

Speaker 4 (01:11:39):
I personally think co won't want to go. I really
think your Colla quits after after this Test match. Sharma,
I don't think he's going to have the choice. I
think that court's already been made for him.

Speaker 6 (01:11:53):
They've been to get rid of because he's making the
rest of them.

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
Look that and.

Speaker 6 (01:12:00):
They have him bowlin from both ends. I think, yeah, exactly,
that would be that would be very.

Speaker 4 (01:12:06):
Difficult to face, wouldn't man, Because guaranteed he'd adapt to
the conditions from my rent as well, like you know,
the winds blowing into me face.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
So well, either that or if you can, if you
only lose maybe sort of five wickets in that initial blast,
you could probably capitalize them because Buman will have actually
bowled himself to death. Well you've got to get ken
for in the first twenty overs because that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
I'm done.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
After that, you guys are.

Speaker 6 (01:12:32):
On your own.

Speaker 3 (01:12:34):
So I think that there's some serious, like not maybe concerns,
but this because are.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
Very like it's a possibly an end of an era
line in the sand moment to the Indian cricket team
that we could be witnessing the torch being passed on
happens to everybody man, And you know, I think there
are some question marks over how India is going to
going to go. Obviously they've got some very talented cricketers there,
but you know, Shipman Gillers had the world at his feet,
but is really hovering around in that mid thirties Test

(01:13:01):
batting average despite being a very very good white ball cricketer.
So jury's out whether or not like what he's ceiling
is as a red ball cricketer. Yet so there could
be some a bit of a fluctuating period for a
cricket but luckily they've obviously got that printing press of
talent that is the IPL to call on, you know,

(01:13:23):
as you said, Glenna tish ready has got questionable first
class statistics, but obviously a lot of elite, elite cricket
experience playing in the IPL, and there's taken to this
series like nothing else.

Speaker 6 (01:13:37):
There's no doubt about that talent they've got that. Sure,
he could get another shot at.

Speaker 4 (01:13:44):
I'm speaking, they're more likely, I don't think Pritty, Sure,
I'll get backward. And you look at some of these
young guys like young Abishak who opens a batting with
Travis Heed for the Sunrises. Yeah, my goodness, he's not
even on the tour. And there's a couple of others
as well. You know, you look at the team that
they sent away to then the last twenty thing, I

(01:14:05):
think they played few people who was ill playing. Might
have been Bank of the Desh or somebody, but might
goodness some of those players in there, and they've got
excellent first class records, you know, like some of those
guys that have running around in tween twenty are averaging
fifty in first class cricket.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
You know they have an enviable talent pool, that's for sure.
All right, guys, we're going to be done.

Speaker 1 (01:14:29):
We're going to enjoy the rest of our drive and
head down to the SCG where we're going to live
it up, watch lots of cricket and potentially hydrate ourselves.
Well well, Glenn and I will Aaron will be hydrating
less as he is, as I am that designated that
designated driver, So thank you, Aaron.

Speaker 3 (01:14:47):
Round of applause.

Speaker 6 (01:14:49):
That's all right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
But if anyone's there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
And listening to the podcast and is at the SCG
today for day one and want to say hi, you
know when I find us on the social media will
be We'll start away. We'll start away, all right, guys.
I hope you enjoy the test. That's the first one
of twenty twenty five and it poses to be an
excellent one. We're hoping for an Australian victory, but you know,
from what we're saying from this series, Indians aren't going

(01:15:14):
to give it away easy. So hopefully it's another enthralling
created game that we can finish off this water Gabasca Trophy.

Speaker 3 (01:15:21):
In style Until next time, guys, Bye for now.

Speaker 6 (01:15:26):
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.css-14f5ked{margin:0;word-break:break-word;display:-webkit-box;-webkit-box-orient:vertical;box-orient:vertical;-webkit-line-clamp:2;overflow:hidden;}Episode 189 - New Years Road Trip