Ep.146 Come And Play (Throwback)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You'll be away five seventeen. Do you want to report
a UFO hanging in? We don't want to report every
thirty one.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Do you wish to report a UFO over.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Hey, we want to one of those data areas thirty one.

Speaker 1 (00:15):
Do you wish to find a report of any kind
of it?

Speaker 3 (00:18):
I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Time areas thirty one Me neither there or see if
it was anybody above us to pass us, Like thirty
seconds ago, we were sending one top of golf negative. Okay,
OFFI the UFO.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeah, it's murder ten nine o'clock. Yes, I'll just passed over. God.
I don't know what it was, but it's from at
least to three thousand feet above us.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
See, I passed right over the top of us.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Ninety one one.

Speaker 4 (00:51):
You just called both to me be four.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
They're after staying the airplanes he.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
I swear to God. More calm in an unidentified object
every liberty or call or calm on an unidentified flying object.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
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(01:48):
Hello and welcome to the show. Everyone, wherever in the
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keep those emails coming in. Tonight's guest is Brandy from

(02:12):
Iowa in the US and her encounters, which began at
the age of just five years old. Many strange occurrences.
Brandy will be sharing with us this episode. If you
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helps the show to continue running. Now on with the show, Hello, Brandy,

(03:10):
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Thank you it's good to be here.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
Thank you so much for coming on. And you're calling
from Iowa.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yes, yes, just outside Omaha, just.

Speaker 4 (03:19):
Off the river, is it right right?

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah? Good stuff.

Speaker 4 (03:22):
Okay, that's great. Now, your experiences are life long and
also ongoing. Would you like to start the very beginning
for USh please, Brandy.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yes. So the first memory, well, I shouldn't even say memory,
the first experience I've ever had. I was actually just
a little baby, and my mom is the one that
has told the story to me over and over, and
she will tell it the same way every single time
and never misses a beat with it, so I two
hundred percent believe her when she tells this. But apparently

(03:54):
there was one night where I was sleeping with her
in her bed and I think, I don't know if
I was like six months. I was little, and I
had a tendency of kicking the blankets off, and it
was in the middle of winter, and she saw a
shadow of a person standing in her bedroom doorway. She
thought it was my dad and thought it was strange
that he was just standing there staring at her, and

(04:17):
kind of wondered, like why he wasn't coming in the bedroom.
And then she noticed the shadow come over to the
side of the bed where I was, pulled the blankets
up over me, patted me on the back, and then
backed into the corner of the closet and disappeared. But
as she was trying to turn and face who she
thought was my dad, she realized she couldn't move. She

(04:40):
could move her eyes, but she was completely paralyzed. She
couldn't do anything until that shadow actually backed into the
closet disappeared, and the minute it disappeared, she could move again,
and so she didn't. For whatever reason, she didn't say
anything to my dad about it that night, but the
next day she confronted him and asked why I was

(05:00):
standing in the doorway watching them sleep, and he said
that wasn't him. So she was completely flabbergasted as to
what happened. And so I guess my strange occurrences started
off really really early in life. But when I was
probably about I would say, five years old, I lived

(05:21):
right next door to my grandparents, and my parents were working.
It was during the summer, and my grandparents would watch
me throughout the day, but sometimes I would just go
to my house to go play, and then I would
go down to her house for lunchtime. And that day
I was sitting in my bedroom just playing with my toys,
and there was a little girl that came to my window.

(05:44):
My bedroom windows I had four, two on each side
of the corner, and I would say these windows are
at least ten to twelve feet up off the ground,
and there was nothing outside for her to stand on
to be outside of the windows. So she tapped at
the windows and wanted me to come out and go play.

(06:04):
So I ran out the back door and met her.
And so we were sitting on the swing set, and
it was one of those the pole style swing sets
from the nineties that had had like a double facing
swing on the one side, and she was sitting on
the opposite side of me, and I remember her asking
me a question, and at the time I don't like

(06:28):
I still to this day don't remember what she said,
but at the time, whatever she asked me upset me
so badly. I remember thinking that I didn't ever want
her to come over and play again. Thinking back, I
think she must have come more than one time, because
I remember saying to her, I don't want you to
come over and play again. After that point, I don't

(06:49):
remember what happened other than the next thing I knew.
I was standing in my backyard, which would be directly
on the back side of my bedroom, which would have
been where she was tapped at my window for me
to come out and come play. And behind our house
was an orchard and a little small garden, but it
was kind of fenced off so you really couldn't see

(07:12):
into it very well. But sitting in this orchard was
this what I would call like a little black scout
ship something. It seemed very small to me, and she
was standing there then with like two other boys, or
at least who I thought looked like my brothers at
the time, but they didn't live with me, so I

(07:32):
thought it was weird that they were there. And I
was begging the one boy. I said, please don't make
me go, Please don't make me go, and the boy
just stood there kind of like with this like empathetic look,
like I understand, but like said nothing, made no comments
about anything. And I don't remember going in. But the
next thing I remember from there was being in there

(07:55):
and laying on this like black table but face down,
like I was bellied down, and I remember like being
told or having a sense of knowing that I was
not to turn around, it was not to look because
this girl, or who I thought was a girl, was
talking to someone else in there, and I was I

(08:18):
went from being sad and upset to just pure livid
that I, for whatever reason, wasn't allowed to look. But
when I was in there, it was this dark kind
of a cross between like gun metal gray and black everything,
and it had this amber lighting that kind of ran
across just above the floor, but you couldn't see the

(08:41):
source of the light. So I don't know if there
were like panels that it was tucked behind, but I
remember thinking it was so odd that I couldn't see
a light bulb or you know, a strand of lights,
and I was just I was so upset. And then
the next thing I remember, I woke up in bed.
It was nighttime, it was dark out, and I had
a day at the time, and I just woke up

(09:01):
and I was sobbing, and I just remember thinking, oh,
my gosh, it was just a terrible dream. Oh, I
feel so much better. But the odd thing was looking back,
before I had gone to the swing set with her,
I had asked the girl how she got up to
the window, and she said she just climbed, which we
just had that like Vinyl sighting at the time, and

(09:24):
I still can't quite I never could understand how she
got up there and stayed up there the way she did.
But I do remember weeks after, I had friends come
over and I remember showing them that you could get
up to the window by climbing it. So I know,
thinking back, that whole occurrence was one hundred percent real,

(09:44):
But in the moment, it just seemed like a dream,
and I think I wanted it to be a bad dream,
and so I must have just tucked it into my
subconscious But for a while after I I must have
remembered it in much better detail, because I remember telling
one of my cousins about the situation, and I had
told her that the girl had looked like me, but today,

(10:07):
like I can't remember what she looks like to this day,
but I remember telling her at the time that she
had looked like me, but she had all black eyes.
My cousin told me that story had stuck with her
for years and that that was the one part of
the story she could not shake because it freaked her out.
And that's just it's just over time. That was one

(10:29):
thing I completely forgot about. I remember certain parts of
that situation, but I didn't remember that detail until she
told me, and then I remembered. I remembered the blonde
hair and her face in the window, and it's it's creepy.
It's creepy to think that this stuff happens, and in

(10:49):
some part of your brain it didn't seem that abnormal
until you look back on it twenty twenty five, thirty
years later, and you realize how distur being the whole
situation was. And that wasn't the last of it, but
that was the one time I actually remember being taken

(11:10):
and she looked just she just looked like a normal girl,
and I knew that she had come before. I also
realized that when she had come, it probably would have
been before my parents came home from work, so I
would I would say anywhere between like one two in
the afternoon, and then when everything wrapped up, it was

(11:33):
it was well after bedtime. So I somehow that day
I lost like an entire evening with my family, and
I they wouldn't remember that night for me to go
hack and ask where was I or what happened? But
it's just gone. That one hung with me for a
long time. But fast forward, I was probably the one
I was telling you about earlier when I was eleven

(11:55):
and I was with my mom in our local km
art and she ducked off to go into another aisle,
I think, to look at vacuum stuff, and I didn't
want to look at any of that, and I was,
you know, pre teenager, too cool to do any of
that stuff. So I went into the arts and crafts
aisle and was kind of browsing around when I noticed

(12:15):
this couple. There was a girl and a guy, and
I remember the girl had deep red hair, like almost dyed,
and she had really kind of bony, masculine features, and
the guy was a little shorter with dark hair. I
can't remember if he had a beard or not, but
in my mind I think he did. And they were
both wearing the same black trench coat, and they had

(12:38):
those nineties style metal frame bug eye looking sunglasses on,
and I remember thinking it was so strange because it
was in the middle of the department store, and I
was just saw anybody that wore sunglasses inside of a
store was just odd for one. But they were looking
around like they were looking for somebody and not like

(12:59):
they were shopping, and they came up to me when
I was in the aisle, and I remember trying to
just shake it off. I didn't want to notice them
noticing me, and so I just kept trying to browse
through this stuff. And I finally did turn and face them,
and they're just stone faced, no expression, staring at me,

(13:20):
not at anything in the aisle, just facing me directly,
and so I asked them, I said, can I help you?
Because I was feeling kind of bratty and kind of
annoyed that they're in this store with sunglasses on and
is staring right at me. I thought it was rude.
And the guy asked me, what's your sign? And he

(13:43):
asked it in this flat It was just such a
weird way that he asked such a weird question. And
I remember being taken aback, like what kind of a
question is this? And so I go, what do you mean?
Like Sagittarius? And I just stared at it. I was
just so I flabbercasted, like what kind of a question

(14:04):
is that? And they just stared at me. They said
nothing else, and they just kept giving me this cold,
empty stare, and I high tailed it out of that aisle.
I went and found my mom, we checked out, we left,
and I remember saying to her at the tech how
I was like, I think those are aliens, and this
other gal laughed, But I felt like they just weren't.

(14:28):
They weren't hundred percent human. That's the only thing I
can say. I don't know what they were, what they wanted,
and I kind of wish I could go back to
just ask them why they asked that question, why they
wanted to know, and what it meant. But I'll never
get that situation back again, so I do not know.
It's just it was completely bizarre. There was a few

(14:53):
years later. This was probably about the time I was
really waking up to everything that was going on. I
think I've in so form or another known, but I've
always kind of been able to tuck all these events
just away in a certain part of my brain that
I could just ignore and focus on the rest of
my life. But right before I got married, my husband

(15:16):
and I we had moved in. He had moved in
with me. Actually we lived in this farmhouse. And this
house actually had a U shaped driveway. It was gravel,
and I'm going to say it was like a dream,
but not a dream, but felt very dreamlike. I woke
up standing in my driveway, staring at the gravel in

(15:38):
the back part of my car, and I remember telling
myself in that minute, I have to remember this when
I wake up. I have to remember this when I
wake up. And I was taking in the detail of
the rocks, and it had a very hyper vivid quality
to it, like not a complete waking state, but in

(16:00):
such a way that I was taking in it was
kind of a head in the fish bowl feeling. And
I had remembered that the we had a yard lamp
that was right by that part of the driveway. It
had burned out a couple weeks prior, and so there
was no light anywhere outside other than the moon. And

(16:21):
I realized, as I'm standing behind my car that it
is bright, like very very bright, like spotlight bright. And
it clicks in my head that the spotlight was broke,
and so I finally I worked myself up to look up.
And as as soon as I look up and see

(16:42):
the underside of this thing, it hit me with the light.
And when I say it hit me, it felt like
it hit every fiber of my body and the next
thing I know, I was being not set, not dropped,
but slammed into my bed. And the other odd thing
was when I was standing outside, I had noticed it

(17:04):
was a full moon and it was kind of a
brightly lit night because of it. And when I was
tossed into my bed, I remember it feeling very electrical
in the air. There was this almost kind of like
a helicopter sound that's like woo sound, but I could
both hear it and feel it. It was both kind

(17:27):
of a sound and a vibration at the same time.
My husband never woke up, He didn't stir the cat
on the bed, didn't even budge. I sat up, thinking,
oh gosh, was that like a terrible nightmare? And I
turned out to look out the window and the moon
was the exact same. The next day, I had taken

(17:47):
notice of where I had parked my car and where
he had parked his car, which we had parked differently
every single day, they were the exact same as they
were when I was standing out behind my car. And
that was that was kind of the starffart of all
of the weird and wild things that started happening. And
this was probably around two thousand and thirteen this would

(18:08):
have happened, and by like twenty fifteen, a lot of
weird and strange things were happening. But this was about
the time that I was really waking up to all
of the events. And I would wake up with bruises
on the inside of my arms, thumb marks on my forearm,
and a lot of these marks would match dreams where

(18:28):
I would I would be dreaming about them and fighting
with them and being stressed out because of it, and
then just putting the two and two together that these
things were these weren't just bad dreams, that this was
real and it was happening. And my husband, bless his heart,
I think he was just shell shocked to see this

(18:49):
stuff happen and not be not experience it. But he's
he's taken it pretty well. Over the years, things have
greatly calmed down. That time shortly after when we got married,
we had two boys, and I think things have kind
of calmed down vib There's been a few events with
them kind of make me think that it is definitely

(19:12):
familiar because my dad has experienced stuff too, And I'll
actually tell one story when he was a teenager and
he was living at home he would go out and
walk around in the woods. They lived out in the country,
and there oftentimes people would pull like in their their cornfield,
just kids, young kids. They would go drink or make

(19:33):
out or do whatever, and he thought he'd be funny
to go sneak up behind this car and just go
mess with them and scare them to get them off
the property. He was a product of the sixties, so
I'm sure this was his way of walking around, probably
like smoking pot or something. But he remembers walking to
this back part of the field and seeing these red lights,
thinking they were the cars break lights, and the closer

(19:57):
he got to the lights, he realized it wasn't a call.
And he says he remembers nothing other than walking up
realizing that they were not car lights, and then all
of a sudden walking away from it, not knowing how
he turned around and just saying to himself, well that
was weird. Well that was weird. And he's told me

(20:19):
some of the things too that make me think that
he's had experiences. But he you know, it took him
years to tell me that story, and it was it
was only because I drug it out of him that
he told me that because in that same location that
he ran into these lights in the field and in

(20:39):
the woods was where I had been going on a
walk with one of my friends. It was our family farm,
and I remember I had a friend over and we
just would like to go on adventures and we'd go
walk up the creek, go walk through the woods, and
we got to this back part and I'd never really
explored it as a kid, so I figured, you know,
i've got company and we were filling adventuress, so we

(21:00):
went to go check out this part of the property
and it was very beautiful, but I felt watched. I
got this this feel of unease, and I remember coming
back and saying, you know, it was just the strangest thing.
That was so pretty, and we kind of wanted to stay,
but we just we got such a terrified feeling being
in there that we just get addled. And I tried

(21:23):
to go back one other time and I got creeped
out and I couldn't. I couldn't go. But he told
me at that time when I had my friend over,
He's like, someday i'll tell you about that story. And
it was probably about fifteen years later. I dragged it
out of him. And that was exactly where he ran
into those lights. But he's he's always made comments. He's like,
I sometimes don't think my parents are my parents, but

(21:45):
he's he won't really talk about that sort of stuff.
But we did have one night where we had a
shared experience. It was in the middle of the night
and I would say, probably like two in the morning,
and out of a dead sleep, it sounded like a
bomb going off. I looked it up and I've since
learned that it's something called exploding head syndrome. It can

(22:08):
happen when you're stressed out. I guess there's not a
lot known about it, but people have likened it to
the sound of a bomb or a plane crashing, or
just some loud explosion. And I woke up and I
honestly thought a bomb had gone off. And I sat
up in bed and the air felt electrical. It there

(22:29):
was just this vibration and all again I experienced that
that sound that won't almost like a helicopter sound, but
a little slower. And I was able to shake it
off and go back to sleep. And I was talking
to my dad about it, and I told him how
just like bizarre it was, and I had figured out
what it was called. But I to this day have

(22:50):
never had it again, and I don't understand why it
happened to me. But he said that he had the
very same thing that same night happened to him. He
was asleep in his bed and he heard something and
his first thought was a plane had crashed outside. That
it was so loud he ran out of bed and
went out the front door to look to see what

(23:12):
had crashed, and there was nothing there. And just the
simple fact that him and I had the same just
just a strange thing happened on the very same night.
Is it just kind of connects so many dots, so
it's it's very weird.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
Yeah, it is unusual that you and your father heard
this sound. And you know, I don't think you know,
if it was like an exploding head syndrome, it would
be shared, if anyone would, I think it'd just be
the one individual that is suffering that great distress. So
that is very unusual. Did you ever actually tell him
about your experiences?

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yes, he is probably one of the few people I've
told him, and pretty much my mom and my husband
here the only souls that have ever heard the full
the full versions I've made off comments to my friends
and stuff, and they just think that I've you know,
had a weird luck of the draw with having haunted
houses since I was a kid, but it was always

(24:08):
easier to play stories off as hauntings as opposed to,
you know, being taken. Sometimes I kind of wonder, though.
My grandpa was in the military, and I kind of
feel like there's a big connection with having military family members,
and he was don't remember what his his title was,
but he he was was involved in communications somehow, and

(24:33):
he was also a teacher for them, and he did
a lot of engineering stuff. My dad probably could pop
off what his title was, but it was I don't
think it. Whatever his position was is something they still
currently have. I can't help but to think whatever he
may have been involved in maybe why my dad and
me and probably my kids are experiencing.

Speaker 4 (24:56):
It is quite often the case generations of a family
can be in I don't ever really like to jump
to conclusions instead of it is, you know, it does
seem patterns and similarities, right.

Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, And I sometimes think that when you're you're with
a person that is being taken, they take interest in you. Two.
Because my husband has lived like the most normal life,
Like I don't think he's had anything weird or strange
happen to him until he's lived with me. And there
was right after we had our first son and I

(25:28):
had had I'd woken up with a like triangular, like
three pronged bruise on the inside of my left bicep
and it was either around the same day or within
that same week. He had the same mark on his thigh,
and it's just one of those weird shapes that's like,
how do you get a bruise like that in? You know,

(25:49):
on areas? Like for whatever reason, the inside of my
left bicep is usually the one that always shows most
of the markings. But I kind of speculate if maybe
that has something to do with the side of the
bed that I've slept on and the side that I
sleep on, maybe that's my more accessible side for them.
And I don't know they're opportunists too, because my husband

(26:11):
he sometimes very rarely he goes out of town for work,
and there was one here where he went just for
like an overnight, and I hate being by myself, mostly
for this reason alone. But so I had my son
in bed with me and I left the TV on.
It just provides me a little bit of comfort when

(26:32):
I'm by myself, and after a certain time it does
go to like a dark screen, but you can still
it still kind of dimly lights up the room. And
I that night woke up sitting up in bed and
I was facing one of them, and it was standing
directly between my closet doors and my bedroom door, staring
at me. And I remember staring back at it, not

(26:55):
feeling scared, not feeling anything, and thinking that it was
one of those weird moments where I felt, Okay, I
see you. I should I should start feeling really scared
right about now, and about the moment that I thought
that I blanked out, I blanked out, and I remember

(27:16):
just having a weird dream about being in a circular
room with a bunch of doctors. That was all that
I can remember that night. I don't remember if I
woke up with anything after that, but in that moment
when I was staring at it, I remember feeling it
in my head too. I could feel its thoughts and
I could feel it feel my thoughts, and it was
just the instantaneous moment that as soon as I remember

(27:39):
thinking I should start freaking out. It was like I
was in a completely different place. I'm going to call
it a dream, but I was in this like doctor's office.
It was a like a round white room, and I
was going into surgery. I don't know what for, and
I remember being at peace with it. I think in

(28:00):
my mind that these were like friends or coworkers, and
they were happy for me. Thinking it was weird. I
didn't know what I was having surgery for, but I
felt okay about it.

Speaker 4 (28:10):
Can you actually remember any details about the form itself?

Speaker 2 (28:13):
Yeah, it was. I would say it's your typical gray,
but I feel like a lot of the images you
see of them is not never quite right. This one,
I think would probably be a taller one because its
head came to right about the middle of this picture
I had hanging on the wall and it I could

(28:34):
stand and face it. And I'm five four, so I
felt like it had to have been just as tall
as me, or maybe just slightly shorter, but slender, just
black eyes, And I remember thinking it was weird that
I didn't like wake up and sit up. I was
just I woke up sitting up, So it was almost
kind of like they were putting me back, and I

(28:56):
came to too quickly and they had to correct the situation.
Or maybe they were taking me and I came out
of whatever trans they tried to put me in. Do
you really want to fight it? You can, but it
takes a lot of concentration, and I feel like it
irritates them.

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Speaker 2 (30:28):
When you want to try and remember, and sometimes they'll
let you, like if you ask, you know, just say
I want to remember part of this you do. I
don't know whether that's a blessing or occurs, but it's
that's just been my experience. And sometimes i've you know,
I've just asked, can you calm it down? Like I
just need a break, And then I feel like I

(30:50):
don't have any experiences for a long while, or at
least I don't remember. It's really hard to tell, because
there are some nights where and I am a big
dreamer and I'm vivid dreamer, and I would say I
probably dream every single night. And there are some nights
where I feel like I lay my head down on
the pillow and the next thing I know, it's time
to wake up, and I feel exhausted. And you know,

(31:13):
I've noticed it with my son too, and he's five.
He should have an endless volt of energy and he
there's just some days he's dragging, even at the end
of the day when I pick him up from daycare
and he'll tell me, Mom, I'm just so tired. I
just didn't get enough sleep. And I know he's with
me or I you know, I lay him down, I

(31:35):
know what time he's going to bed, I know what
time I'm waking him up, and he should be getting,
you know, enough sleep in a night. And I just
can't help but to think that, you know, those those
are just nights that stuff's happening, and we just we
have zero recollection.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
And he's never mentioned it even you know, he's.

Speaker 2 (31:54):
He's he's an interesting little soul. My youngest is you know,
he's his is still just he's three, so he really
can't tell me much of what's going on. But my
five year old, he's said some things, and I honestly
think he's had past lives. He tells me about his
grandma and it's not my mom, and it's not my

(32:15):
husband's mom. And he tells me all these stories of
things he did and just things that a little kid
shouldn't know. And he's just there's something different about him too.
He's smart. He's extremely smart and he's he's got a
big interest in this stuff. And I try to when

(32:38):
I'm reading about books like this, or if I'm watching
a show like I try to keep that carefully to myself.
I don't want to, I don't want to taint his experience.
But I find he's just as interested by these topics.
I was that little kid that was scared and obsessed
with learning about aliens and Bigfoot and Egypt and you

(33:00):
know those big mysteries like early on in I see
so much of that in him too. And there's there
was one night where we had just put his toddler
bed in his room. We had in our room for
a little bit to get him adjusted to his bed,
and I woke up to seeing a flash and short

(33:22):
like right after the flash, it sounded like him falling
out of bed, which his toddler bed was only oh
six seven eight inches off the it was low. He
shouldn't have made that sort of a sound, but it
almost sounded like a body being thrown off of the
bed or it just didn't make sense. And then he

(33:44):
started screaming. We run in there. We had cameras set
up in the house, but none of them were in
a position to where we could see the flash or
make anything out of it other than just you heard
the thump and then you heard him scream. So I
don't know if he was being brought back and I

(34:05):
got tossed out of his bed. I it had been
the flash that woke me up, and we tried to
go back and scrutinize all the videos, but there was
just in the end, there was nothing more that we
can make out of it. The booms and the bangs
is a common thing. Just two nights ago, I woke
up it it was three oh six in the morning,
and I don't know whether something had exploded outside or

(34:28):
something big. It sounded like something could have either fallen
or crashed or banged downstairs, but nothing was out of place.
We lived next to a golf course, so there was
really nothing outside that we noticed could have made that sound.
Even at our old house. I would be working from
home some days and it would sound like a bookshelf

(34:49):
or some big cabinet had fallen over and just slammed
onto the floor. Like I would hear big booms, and
I would go upstairs and there would be nothing amiss.
Go outside, just to make sure that a tree limb
hadn't fallen on the roof, there'd be nothing, nothing would
be broken, nothing would be tipped over. But we would
just have these random things happen. And I don't know

(35:11):
if it's just sometimes they liked a toy with you,
or if it's something you do by proxy, if being
tapped into them, if it's not like a Poltergeist thing.
When everything was kind of coming to fruition to me
back in like twenty fifteen, I was getting overwhelmed with it,
Like it felt like there was an external force driving

(35:33):
me to learn, research, take in what I could, and
it was almost like I had a self guiding system,
like I knew where to look, I knew what books
to read, I knew which interviews sounded hokey. Like it
was just like something was pushing me to just cram
in all this information hard and fast. And I think

(35:55):
in a way, some somehow, you kind of have one
foot in this world and one foot on the other
side of the veil. And I think your energy, your spirit,
whatever you want to call it, reflects that. Because I
was having computer problems at work, I would be doing
simple tasks and my computer screens would flicker out, go down.

(36:19):
I pretty much nuked two computers at work. The graphics
card would go out on them. Our phones bleep like
somebody was talking through the phone. When we had a
house phone. We didn't keep that for very long. The
kitchen lights would flicker when I would stand under them,
and oftentimes we went through light bulbs like crazy. And
I had it was around Christmas time. I had three

(36:41):
little decorative Christmas trees and I had little lights strung
on them. And these were not the kind of lights
that had the settings that you could have flash, alternate,
nothing like that. And I was folding closed and I
noticed these lights are just flashing like crazy. So I just,
as a form of an experiment, backed away and they stopped.
They stayed down. I stepped closer to them, they'd start flashing.

(37:04):
I finally just gave up and I just unplugged them
because I thought it was just so strange. But we
still have that problem. And we had this is oddly enough,
we had problems with clocks. We had in our old
farmhouse two houses ago. We had a clock that was
hardwired into the wall. It was not a battery. It

(37:24):
was kind of a fifties retro style thing, and it
granted it was old, but it would keep time for
months perfectly, and then just one night it would just
be twenty minutes behind, or it would be fast a
little bit and we would reset it. It would stay
fine for a couple of months, and then it would

(37:46):
just seem like when things were happening to me or
in the house, the clock would mess up. And that
followed us. We moved to not the house right now,
but the one before, got a new clock, had a
new batteries. We move and the clock started running twenty
minutes slow, and I figured, screwt, I know it's twenty

(38:09):
minutes slow. I'm just leaving it that way. It kept
time for a while, and then there was one day
I came home and then it had jumped twenty minutes
of well forty minutes faster, so now it was twenty
minutes fast from normal time. At that point, I just
threw the clock away because like I'm starting over. My dad,
he for the longest time, could not wear a wrist watch.

(38:33):
He said he would just drain the batteries. And I
remember in high school I would try and wear a
wristwatch too, and I felt like I was changing the
battery every couple of weeks, so I stopped wearing them myself.
So I really do feel like when things are especially
firing up changes your energy somehow, and it eventually calms

(38:53):
down after a little bit. But you know, I would
have problems with the electronics in my car. If this
could be a super this was the worst superpower to have,
because I could never, never reain it into my own benefit.
But I don't know if it's just a byproduct of
being aware they take you, if it changes you somehow,
or whatever they're doing on the other end. It really

(39:16):
it affects your physical Here.

Speaker 4 (39:18):
In your family, is there anybody with psychic abilities or
anything or anything like that.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Well, it's funny you say that. My mom's mom, she
she would always say she had she would have premonition
type dreams. And my cousin on that side of the family,
she's probably the most like me. We've we've shared our
weird stories together, and she's had her own interesting things

(39:45):
that have happened to her. But she is very she's
a very empathetic personality, and she's had a lot of
premonitions happen. I have in small forms, but it's usually
in a dream form. Something well, I'll dream about something
thing and then in maybe not in the exact way
it happens in my dream, but I would say at

(40:06):
least fifty percent of what's happening does come to fruition
within like a day or two. I had a my grandma,
before she got put into a nursing home, was living
alone and my grandpa had passed. And I dreamt I
was in the house and he was there and I
knew he was dead, and I was talking to him,

(40:27):
and he had this weird light around him, just this
like really warm glow. And in my dream, my grandma
is just she was busy in the kitchen as she
always was. She was just a farm wife and that's
just kind of how she always was, and she was
busy running from counter to counter, and I kind of
shed it was like she didn't know we were there

(40:48):
in the dream, and I talked to my grandpa and
I said, you're dead, and he kind of just smiled
at me, and I said, she doesn't knowwhere here, and
he kind of, you know, kind of kept looking at me,
like he never verbally said anything. And I said, she
needs help because at this point she had Alzheimer's and

(41:09):
it was really starting to set in and affect her
memory and just her daily living. And the very next
day she had fallen and couldn't get up, and she
had been on the floor for the better part of
the day and a half. And at that point she
got put into a nursing home. And I kind of

(41:29):
felt like that was Grandpa's way of looking out for
her and having a sense of knowing that things were
changing in her life for her, and I just I
was there. I was aware of it, and actually had
just last week, I had a cousin who him and
his wife they were expecting a baby. They weren't very

(41:51):
far along, she was only probably about ten eleven weeks,
but I had a dream of that I had been
approached by another friend and said that your friend that
is pregnant has lost the baby. Yeah, you need to
go to her, And for whatever reason in my dream,
I thought it was my best friend who's also expecting,

(42:13):
But as I woke up, I realized that that day.
Then the night before I had the dream was the
night before my cousin's wife was going in because she
had had some spotting and was going to get the
baby checked to make sure everything was okay. And that
was the day they found out they lost the baby,
so the dream was about her. And I still haven't

(42:34):
had the heart to tell her that I've had this
dream because I don't really want to upset her. But
I knew before they told me that she had already
lost the baby.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
It's a difficult one to approach that one. Yeah, haven't
experienced the same thing. It's it's very difficult. Yeah, let
alone just knowing what to you know, what to say, right.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
I basically just text them and I said, you know,
I'm thinking of you saying my prayers. Sure, because you
can't say, hey, I dreamt about you, and I dreamt
you lost the baby, and you know, I hope everything's okay.
You can't. You can't say those things. So it's kind
of it, I don't.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
Know, maybe further down the line, you know, if they
further down, Yeah, if they do get lucky later later on,
then maybe after that.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
They're a very spiritual couple, and I would think, especially
my cousin being in his faith, like I think that
he would see it as a gift and not not
anything other than that. But yeah, those feelings are still
pretty raw for them, So I'm yeah, we'll keep that
to myself for a while.

Speaker 4 (43:36):
Yeah, and it's something that doesn't really go away as well.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
No, no, And sometimes, you know, being like such a
vivid dreamer and having all these experiences, sometimes it's hard
to tell, like what's what's real, what's you don't really
know until it happens and you're like, oh, yeah, I
dreamt this. So I feel like there's definitely a heavy
intuitive gift that's kind of been passed. And I don't

(44:02):
I don't know if I am the way that I
am because my mom came from a family that had
certain gifts, and you know, maybe my dad side the
family had their own and maybe they were brought together,
or maybe because they both came together is why you know,
my family now has had experiences. It's definitely been a

(44:26):
thought I've mulled over many, many times. But the more
I read and the more I hear other people's stories,
it makes me feel better that I don't know the
only one. This sort of strange stuff happens too, and
I guess I don't feel so alone.

Speaker 4 (44:41):
Oh you're not alone, but people like you all over
the world. I mean your little five year old for instance,
you saying he was having these past life memories.

Speaker 2 (44:51):
He will talk about how he lived with his grandma
and he can't remember her name, but he called a
grandma and they lived in a house in the woods,
and he was telling me about driving with her one day,
and so I just out of curiosity. I never try
and ask leading questions. I just let him tell me

(45:12):
the facts as he knows them. But I was just
out of curiosity, asking well, what kind of a car
did she have? What color was it? And the way
he was describing it, I think he was trying to
describe the color of rust, but he couldn't. He doesn't
know rust. And you know, it's just certain details that

(45:33):
he talks about. And I like earlier this summer, we
were sitting outside and he was picking flowers and he
was getting kind of aggravated, and I said, what's what's
the matter, buddy, And he goes, oh, I just have
to pick all these weeds. And he said, no, no,
you don't. Why do you say you have to pick them?
He's like, oh, my grandma used to make me do this.

(45:55):
I didn't like it, but I would just do it anyways.
I'll just do five more. Go inside. And he was
just so irritated with the task, and I wasn't making
him pull the weeds out of the grass, and it
was just like he had feelings left over from a memory.
And I believe him. I totally believe that people can

(46:16):
have past lives, and somehow he's he's still tapped in.
I've tried asking him about his grandma, about his grandpa,
and from the things I've gathered, I don't think the
grandpa was with the grandma, but he was, you know,
a figure in that that lifetime. And he will talk
about how his he had an uncle who also lived

(46:39):
near there, and that he, you know, he was his grandma.
He knows perfectly well that she's not alive. He knows
that she's dead because but the way he tells me,
he goes, well, you know, because she lived a long time,
she had way too many birthdays, so he knows that
she was old, and he knows that she's not here.

(46:59):
But sometimes the way he talks about her, it's almost
like she's still a present figure. Uh. And there there's
just there's spans of time where I feel like that's
all he talks about. He knows that I'm his mom here,
and he knows and loves his family here, but he
also knows that he has a grandma somewhere else that's

(47:20):
not you know, his either of his current grandma's.

Speaker 4 (47:24):
That's that's interesting. You certainly want to make a note
of it somehow, whether you know, you take notes or
you or you record, yeah talking because obviously you know
he won't remember this forever, sooner or later it will pass. Yep, Yeah,
you don't. You don't want to ask leading questions, but
just say something like, you know, what, what did grandma
used to call you?

Speaker 2 (47:44):
And you know I've asked that, and he doesn't remember.
He will. That's where like his stories will get skewed.
And then he knows himself as his name and uh.
He told me one day we were driving by it
was a field of cow. And he told me one
day that he tried to ride a cow once and
it didn't work out. Some of these stories are pretty funny.

(48:07):
And that he had a horse and he told me
the name of the horse, and I it was something
like tricky or it was like he knew the color
of the horse, and so I had him describe. I said, well,
what was it like where you lived? And he basically describes,
you know, something like a prairie and not not like city,

(48:28):
not like a desert, not mountainee like it was like grasslands,
and so it's like, how how many lives have you lived?
But but yeah, he's an interesting little soul. I definitely
do I journal anytime he says something just completely like
off the wall like that. I journal those, and ajournal

(48:51):
dreams and a journal anytime anything weird is happening in
the house, because sometimes you can look back and then
sometimes you can really are to notice particular times of
the year things fire up more than others. Sometimes it's
just it's just all over the place, and it doesn't
really seem to have a rhythm or a rhyme to it.

(49:11):
But there are times in the summer where I know,
activity picks up and then I know kind of when
it dies down. I figure, if nothing else, one of
these days, I'm going to write a book. I've got
I've I've got some stories and I've got some weird
events that I would eventually at least like to put
in print form for them, so when they become adults

(49:32):
and they have questions, I can be even you know,
by then, if I forget everything it'll be there for them,
be like I didn't have this when I had questions.
Here you go.

Speaker 4 (49:43):
Yeah, it can. It can make things a little bit easier.
Plus it'd be nice for him to see, you know,
when he's older and you could say, you know, this
is what you used to say when you when you're young,
when you were five years old.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
Yeah, yeah, he I'll be interested to see, if you know,
things change in a few years, if he's still remembers,
because he's five now and he can still he can
still tell you all about it. And he and I
really haven't noticed a whole lot out of my youngest yet,
but he's still he's just starting to learn, like how
to say full sentences, and half the time I think

(50:14):
he just likes to repeat what his big brother does.
But my oldest, he's a he's a deep thinker. The
day he was born, he came out, he didn't cry,
He just sat around and looked like he was just
taking in the whole hospital room. He just he just
had a depth to him from the get go, And
I kind of had a sneaking suspicion that there was

(50:36):
just something to him, because I know some people say
they have a lot of like number synchronicity, and before
I was even pregnant, I would see a lot of
the repeating two two two, three three three, nine to eleven,
nine eleven, nine eleven was a big one, and I
just thought it was odd. And by that point I
had kind of figured out that, you know, some people
have attached meaning to that, and sometimes it can course

(51:00):
respond what's happening in their life. I read it as
far as like entertainment value goes, But the biggest ones
that came through were nine to eleven and to too too.
Funny story when I was delivering him, the hospital room
they put me in was too too too, and he
was born on nine to eleven, so it was in

(51:20):
a weird way. He was introducing himself before he even.

Speaker 4 (51:23):
Came sounds like it's.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
It's been a wild adventure, and you know, you don't.
I forget to talk about these things. So I'm kind
of grateful for podcasts like this where you can actually
kind of just spill your guts because you can tell people, oh,
last night, I woke up to this really weird thing
in my room. There's there's very few people that have
a tolerance for listening to those things. And it is

(51:49):
just kind of nice to get it off your chest,
because you know you can't explain to your employer why
you feel just zonked and you come into work and
you really don't know why what happened to you the
night before, and.

Speaker 4 (52:02):
They wouldn't understand why you're physically and mentally exhausted.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
No, I think even if you told most people, they
would still just think you're crazy telling you to go
get on MUDs. It's just one of those things where
you can't control it. You don't feel like you've signed
up for it, but here you are. You have to
to silently deal with it and still try and function
like a normal, normal human being in your waking daily life.

(52:26):
Sometimes you just kind of you can get mad about it,
or you can just roll with the punches. And we're
just trying to roll with the punches. My husband, I think,
in his weird little way of dealing with it, he'll
joke around, like if he doesn't get any sleep to night,
he's like, oh man, I think they took me to
and it's kind of sad, but you kind of have

(52:47):
to laugh. I don't know what this is or what
it's about. I don't know if I think they're good
or if they're bad. I've definitely had some frightening experiences,
and I feel like I've had some enlightening ones. So
I think you just have to make the best out
of the situation. And I don't know if their intentions
for us are good, if they're if it's just out

(53:10):
of curiosity, I don't know. I just know they're here.
They mess with us. But my husband jokingly says, well,
they bring you back. Yes, they do, but it's it
takes a toll that most people that deal with this,
they know that it's a silent thing that you have
to quietly deal with. Just have to make the best

(53:32):
out of it.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
When you're talking about your son, how he would quite
often wake up tired. You know, I could hear some
concern in your voice. Does it bother you that he
may be going for the same kind of thing?

Speaker 2 (53:43):
Yeah? Yeah. You don't ever want anything to happen to
your children. And I think back on some of the
things that happened to me as a kid, and I
was terrifying. I as a kid, I remember hiding under
my bed because I felt like that was the safest
place to be, and normally most kids think monsters under
the bed or in the closet, and I remember like

(54:03):
thinking through a game plan. If they come to get me,
here's where I'm gonna hide. This is how quickly I
can get to this spot, thinking that I was safe
in those spots, but also in a weird way, knowing
there was nowhere you were safe to go. And I
remember my mom waking me up one morning. I was
I had shimmied myself under my bed and she was

(54:26):
asking me why I was sleeping under my bed, and
I said, I feel the most safe in that bedroom.
There was a window, and I actually, when all my
curiosity was burning at me, I went to try and
go get hypnotized and get regressed and see what I
could see because I wanted answers. There was a part

(54:48):
in the hypnosis where I was in the bed and
I could tell something was on the other side of
the window, and the therapist was like, it's okay, you're safe,
go ahead and look out of the window, and I
just remember telling her, no, I can't, and I came
completely out of hypnosis. There was just there was no

(55:08):
way I wanted to see what was out there. And
I still don't think I could see in a complete
a waking state. The few times I have seen them
or been aware of their presence, I've kind of been
in a weird, lack of emotion state. I could have
cared less, and I don't. That must be something they

(55:29):
do to you, because there was one night where I
woke up and I had honestly put the TV on
and the it had kind of dimmed out, and I
saw something run around the corner of my bed. I
remember thinking, oh, so not a cat jumping off, But
then I noticed the cats were still on the bed.

(55:51):
It was not my dog. She was sleeping on my pillow,
so there was there was nothing to have jumped off
or But it wasn't cat was jumping off the bed.
It was literally like I saw this. It was almost
like a light tan in the color of the room
that was just being back by my TV. It's like
a little round thing going unbelievably fast, faster than my

(56:11):
cats could have jumped off of anything. But it just
went boop around the corner of my bed, and you
would think your natural response would be to sit up,
get scared, look to see what that was. I couldn't
have cared less. I rolled over, went back to bed.
It's sometimes it's just like that. Then the night where
I woke up sitting in bed staring at one it

(56:33):
was it took effort for me to realize I should
be scared now, and I wasn't until I thought about it.
And then they did something and took took me or
took my mind out of the situation I was in,
because I don't think they would want to do with
me freaking out. But it's it's really bizarre the states
they can put you in where you're just kind of

(56:54):
in a I don't want to say emotionless, because you
can think through your emotions, but it's just you don't
care or like in that state, they don't terrify you,
or the situation doesn't terrify you.

Speaker 4 (57:06):
It's like a mental sedation, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Yes, very much, And those those few times it feels
like you're in a state that is summer, not dreaming,
not fully awake. I just always caught the head and
the fish bowl feeling where you're you're there, you're taking
in the exact details of the room, the things that
are going on, but it's not the same heavy concrete

(57:29):
feeling of like a normal waking state. It's difficult to describe,
but that's that's the best example I have.

Speaker 4 (57:36):
That's wonderful.

Speaker 2 (57:36):
Those are the biggest ones. Those are always the ones
that have never left my mind, Like I could tell
those to the same detail over and over. Sometimes it's
the little ones that you you kind of just let
your mind forget about. And that's why I started journaling,
because I don't want to forget and I want it
to be there, and eventually my goal, my over my

(57:58):
overall goal is to put it in a book. I
know how I'm going to map it together and make
it work in a flowing story, but I want it
to be somewhere. I wanted to be there for my kids.
If they start going through the same the same things
that I went through, they'll have something and who knows
what will come of it. But you know, I've read
other people's stories of things that have happened to them

(58:19):
and it brought peace to me. Definitely made me feel
like I'm not alone in this and that you know,
everybody's story is just completely unique.

Speaker 4 (58:26):
I agree. And also these accounts, you know they shouldn't.
It's a shame when they never get journaled and written down.
And they just kind of just get forgotten.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
Yeah. Yeah, And sometimes there's there's importance in the small
details where if you're talking to somebody, they're not going
to ask you, well, what were you thinking about the
time that you One of the stories I forgot to
even mention, so before I got married, I was coming
home from dinner with my husband and well, my boyfriend
at the time, and we were driving over this viaduct

(58:58):
and I looked up and there was east ten I
would say ten to twelve reddish amberish orbs in the sky.
They were way up there, and thinking is that my windshield?
Because I had cleaned my car that day and I
did a terrible job of wiping off my windshields, so
it was all smeary and blurry, and the street lights
were glaring everywhere, and I was kind of craning through them,

(59:19):
like are you seeing what I'm seeing? And my husband
was like, yep, we're counting them, and it was it
was almost kind of like the moment we noticed them,
I remember thinking, oh, no, I just got past this.
That was the first thought that came to my mind.
And we're watching them. They're just it's not even like

(59:39):
they were flying away. It was just they would instantaneously
blink out. They were just gone. They didn't move, and
it wasn't a time of the year where it would
have been Chinese lanterns, and they were way up there
this I don't think that was the case, and one
stayed lit until we got to our next destination, and
I just watched. It was curiosity the whole time, and

(01:00:01):
an adrenaline rush, like I was kind of excited to
have seen something so unique, but I was also terrifying
because at that point, I think subconsciously like I had
gotten myself in a state where I had worked past
some of these things, where I felt like I could
move on and be a normal person. And I kept
dwelling over the words I had said to myself was
I had just got past this, and there it was

(01:00:24):
right in front of me, and I couldn't help but
to feel This might sound weird, and this might sound egotistical,
but I felt like they were there for us, They
were there for me to see, because it was like
the minute that I noticed them, they just started blipping away.
And it was after that things really started hitting in

(01:00:47):
hard and fast, and it was like they were saying, okay,
it's time for you to remember, it's time for you
to wake up. It's time for you to learn about this.
That's exactly what happened.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Yeah, it's it's been a wild ride.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
You know the best thing about this show is that
everyone that listens to it all over the world, you know,
they're all like minded. They're like yourself. You know, when
you've heard previous guests and it will resonate with people.

Speaker 2 (01:01:13):
You know. Helps.

Speaker 4 (01:01:14):
So there's things you've said tonight, you know, which someone
to be listening right now? Obviously not right now because
we're not live.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Yeah, well, that's that's what happened to me. That's how
I ended up writing into you. I sometimes you just
hear certain things about somebody who's experience and like I
had that they're not alone, they're not crazy. I've had
that same thing. And if it's nothing else that I can,
you know, and a few times like that day write

(01:01:41):
in and say I've had the same thing happen, and
they get to see that and they have peace of mind,
then that's a good thing.

Speaker 4 (01:01:47):
I mean, because to be honest with you, Brandy, you
know that I don't really look at this show as
being entertainment. You know, I see it more as being
kind of more of like a forum. So it's a
nice release for you. You know, you probably said about
million times. It can be quite liberating, you know, to
talk about these things, and in turn, you know, the
people listening, you know, if it can help them in

(01:02:09):
any way, even if it's just one person, you know,
then that's job done. It's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
Yeah. Well, for a lot of people like me, it's
been therapy because when I was trying to learn and
research about this whole phenomenon, like you can only take
in so many books a day, but you can listen
to people's stories back to back to back at work,
and you know, it was therapy to be able to
listen to shows like this one, to be able to
hear people's experiences, because that's how I was able to

(01:02:38):
not feel so crazy. There was there was definitely a
time where I felt like I was in one part
of my life, was coming off my rocker, and you know,
hearing other people's experiences it definitely grounded me and made
me feel like, Nope, you're not crazy. Yes this happened,
you're going to have to deal with that, but you're

(01:03:00):
not crazy, and I mean I appreciate people like you
taking the time to do this because you save a
lot of people. They save a lot of people's sanity.

Speaker 4 (01:03:10):
I'm very humble the fact that people take a time
to come on because with I guess sharing our experiences
like yourself, you know, there wouldn't really wouldn't be a show.
But the feedback I receive special to me. You know,
it feels, it feels good. So I know, even if
I kind of want to back out of doing this,
I couldn't so to speak, no.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Please don't. I very much look look forward to shows
like yours time. So we appreciate it. Even if we're
just a bunch of people that are quietly listening, you know,
at their jobs or you know, while they're out for
a walk. I mean, there's there's people taking it in
and having an appreciation for it, even if you don't

(01:03:48):
get the feedback, So know that that's happening.

Speaker 4 (01:03:51):
Oh I do. I receive emails all right, all different
types of people from all over the world, So it's
it's nice. So it's it's really I really like to
receive Agie, he's good.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
Yeah, And I will say there's there was things that
it took me time to focus on, and memories did
come back for me too, And it's amazing how many
things you can live with and those those little blips
of events can hang in the background until you you
put focus on them and you're, Wow, that was actually
really profound thing that happened. And I can't believe that

(01:04:25):
my brain didn't make more of a big deal about it.
But I kind of speculate that whatever they do, they
kind of make you ignore it. And it's the same
with like waking up and finding the bruises. For years,
I would get bruises on my arms in such weird places,
and I would glance at them and it was like
I didn't want to look at them again. And it

(01:04:45):
took great effort for me to actually start taking pictures
and noting that they were happening. And I still find,
like to this day, like I'll think about it and
then I'll just be like, nah, i'll do it later,
but then I will I'll forget to do it. Kind
of they're just way of making you not want to remember.
I guess show it under the rug.

Speaker 4 (01:05:06):
I'm sure, you know. I think some people that do remember,
I think they kind of whether they're allowed to remember
or not. I think there's a lot of people out
there which have experienced and will never remember, and I
think that's deliberate. They're not supposed to remember because they
won't be able to deal you know, they won't be
able to deal with this type type of trauma.

Speaker 2 (01:05:26):
I kind of feel like if I would have remembered everything,
that probably would have been super traumatic for me. I've
been given enough to know and to answer a few questions,
and in a weird way, I'm good with that, Like
I'm good not knowing everything, because I don't know if
I could function like a normal person every day if

(01:05:47):
I remembered half of the stuff that happened. But I've
been given enough to know that I'm not crazy. You know,
phenomenon's really weird and really real.

Speaker 4 (01:05:57):
It is really real and also really weird, but it's
what you really want to take out the situation as
well from your experiences. You know, you can even have
it a massive weight on your shoulders, or you can
kind of work with it, learn from it, yeah, the
best you can, because of course it's difficult because there's
not really any answers out there. You know, you can
you can hear people's experiences, and you can read books

(01:06:18):
and stuff, but you know, generally people don't really know
the full story.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
That's right. Appreciate you having me on. I enjoyed this.
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:06:27):
You're more than welcome. I really appreciate you coming on today,
Brandy and sharing all that for our listeners.

Speaker 2 (01:06:32):
Thank you. I appreciate you having me.

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
All right, keep in contact and I'll talk to you soon.

Speaker 2 (01:06:36):
All right, all right, sounds good. Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (01:06:39):
Now, you're more than welcome. Thank you. That is all
for this week. Keep updated and connected with the show
on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram. And if you have an
encounter that you'd like to share on the podcast, you
can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com,
or you can reach out to me via the contact
page on my website UFO Chronicles podcast dot com. A

(01:07:01):
big fanger to Brandy for sharing tonight, and thank you
all for listening. I will be back next week. Till then,
stay safe and keep watching us guys. Goodbye,

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