Ep.159 Abduction In Auckland (Throwback)

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Tonight we are going to be hearing from Chris in Auckland, New Zealand. Chris has had many UFO encounters over the years, ranging from bright orbs to boomerang-shaped crafts, and has also had interactions with beings in vivid dreams as well as a wide awake state.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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a UFO hanging in? We don't want to report every
thirty one.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Do you wish to report a.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
UFO over hey, we want to one of those areas
thirty one? Do you wish to find a report of
any kind of it?

Speaker 3 (00:18):
I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Time areas thirty one me neither there were self if
it was anybody a U above us to pass us,
Like thirty seconds ago, we were sending one top of
golf negative, okay, OFFI the UFO.

Speaker 4 (00:37):
Yeah it's murder two nine o'clock.

Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yes, I'll just passed over.

Speaker 5 (00:42):
God.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
I don't know what it was.

Speaker 6 (00:44):
But it's from at least to three thousand feet above us.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
See, I passed out over the top of US.

Speaker 5 (00:51):
Ninety one one.

Speaker 6 (00:53):
You just called both to be before.

Speaker 5 (00:56):
They're after staying the airplanes.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Here to God more Calm on an Unidentified object every
liberty four call or calm on an Unidentified flying object.

Speaker 6 (01:13):
A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share
their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had
an encounter, I would like to be on the show.
You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com.

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Hello and welcome to the show everyone wherever in the
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a pleasant week. My name is Nick Hunter, and you're
listening to the UFO Chronicles podcast. Tonight, we're going to
be hearing from Chris in Auckland, New Zealand. And Chris
has had many UFO encounters over the years, ranging from
orbs to boomerang shaped objects, and she has also had

(02:11):
interactions with beings in dreams as well as being wide awake.
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Speaker 4 (03:10):
Now on with the show. Good morning, Chris, and welcome
to the show.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
Thanks Neck, thanks for having me.

Speaker 6 (03:32):
You are welcome, so thank you for coming on today.
And you're calling from Auckland and New Zealand. That's right,
which I think means desired by many.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
I'm not so sure now with COVID, that's pretty boring
living here at the moment.

Speaker 6 (03:46):
Understandable. Now, Chris, you have had a lifetime of experiences.
Would you like to start at the very beginning please?

Speaker 5 (03:52):
Man, Yeah, sure. The first one that I can clearly
remember is, Yeah, I was around three years old. So
my family and I were at our beach house and
it was a weird kind of house that had all
the bedrooms around the outside and the kitchen in the middle.
And I woke up about no, probably about five o'clock
in the morning at first daylight, and I felt that

(04:15):
I had to go to the beach. So I dragged
an oak, real heavy dining chair over to the back
door and scraping on the floor, and you know how
loud that is on the wooden floor, But none of
the adults woke up, and I climbed on the chair
and I must have been a good ten minutes or
so trying to unlock the back door because I had

(04:36):
real little hands and I could only just reach the lock.
And I took myself to the beach and I sat
on the sand probably felt like about half an hour.
And then there were no adults, there, no cars driving around.
It was just dead, and I knew I wasn't allowed
to go on in the water by myself, so I
just sat there and then after a certain amount of time,

(04:56):
I just took myself home. So with other things happening
in my life, I just think that was probably the
first thing that happened. I can't understand why none of
the adults woke up in the house when I let
myself out. The next thing that happened, I was four
or five years old, and a man tapped me in
bed and woke me up, and he looked like he

(05:19):
was maybe Italian or Spanish. He had short dark hair,
quite dark skins, and he seemed to know me, and
he had on like typefiting clothing, like like they were
on Star Trek, but all the same color, like you know,
tight top and tight trousers, and he said something like

(05:40):
I want you to come with me to see your family.
And I can remember thinking in my little kid well,
these people aren't my family. They don't feel like a
good fit, and it makes perfect sense to me. So
I stood up on my bed and we held hands
and we started flying up through the ceiling, and I
was thinking, this is really cool. I'm flying and started

(06:02):
going through the ceiling and I could see the insulation
in the ceiling that Dad had put in, and we
were just about to go through the iron roof, and
I panicked because I didn't want to go anywhere, and
I tried to pull my hand back, and the next
thing I know, I've collapsed and a big keep on
my bed. So I don't know if I went anywhere,

(06:26):
and then my own memory is of returning or whether
i'd managed to pull my hand out of his grip
and crashed in the heap on my bed. So years later,
my dad like we didn't have an interest in UFOs
in our house. I didn't even know if they were
called that yet. Dad woke up in the middle of
the night. We lived down in the South Island and
in Vocago, that's the most southern city in New Zealand,

(06:49):
and he said that he looked up and he saw
a craft and it looked like a Star Wars craft
because Star Wars had not been long out. Oh yes,
that was thirty years ago now, And he said it
filled up nearly the whole sky. So he watched it
for a while until it went out of sight, and

(07:09):
on the radio the next morning there was a report
of a few police cars had followed it also, and
it had gone out to Old v Beach and then
went out over the sea. So that was like a
public siting that more than my dad had seen. So
that was pretty cool. And then my dad started buying
a lot of books about UFOs, but I wasn't interested.

(07:32):
I was too young, I guess, and I thought that
UFOs were what you saw on TV. Like it wasn't
a real thing. It was just something made up on TV.
I saw. So when I lived in Australia, I saw
a silver orb that that looked kind of like a star.
If you look through a telescope at a star and
it's out of focus. It was like a silver plasmable.

(07:55):
That was the longa bay that I was at, and
now I saw that with another per since so I
didn't think too much of that because you couldn't prove
what it was, and i'd never heard of ball lightning.
But I've since looked into ball lightning and I don't
believe it was that. So the next thing I really remember.
There's a whole group of things that I could talk about,
but it would just pay hours, so I just checked

(08:17):
in the main thing. In my early twenties, I had
a dream one night that I was sleepwalking and it
was quite a horrible train was some traumatic events to it. Yeah,
I don't really want to talk about it too much
because it's quite upsetting still, even all this time later.
When I woke up in the morning, I woke up

(08:37):
so startled, and the dream has felt so real that
I checked the bottom of my feet because I just
had a shower before bits, so my feet should have
been clean. But my feet were super black, like the
blackest you could have of the bottom of my feet,
so i'd obviously been walking around somewhere at night. I

(08:58):
told my mum about it, and she was dressed out
as well, so she said she'd locked me in my
bedroom at night. I was sleeping in a sleepout. So
the next couple of nights the same thing again. Each
morning when I woke up, I'd checked my feet and
my feet were super black on the bottom. So you know,
as a young girl in your twenties, you're not wearing

(09:20):
that much to bed, you know, just like a big
T shirt or something. So I completely changed how I
dressed the bed over the next six weeks, like every
day I was putting something extra on because it was
the winter. So in the end I was that scared.
I was wearing shoes and socks to bed, plus like gymyre,
so that if I was going somewhere at night at

(09:42):
least I would be fully clothed wherever I was going.
Around that time, living in Pumaston, North and I was
a sober driver for most of my friends. I only
ever drank one or two drinks. And one night I
was coming home from a lap shift at work and
this big white light was hovering above the railway lines

(10:04):
and I felt like it was watching me and keeping
peace with my car, so that really freaked me out.
And then not much long later, I dropped a friend
out at the army camp. So it was about a
fifteen to twenty minute drive from where I lived, and
probably about fifteen minutes in the dark and real windy road,
quite narrow, and I was coming back from dropping him

(10:27):
off one night and a big white light that sounded
like a cross between a freight train and a track
came roaring up behind me and it filled my whole
car up with white lights and it was really super loud,
but the white light didn't go through my windscreen and
onto the road ahead. It kind of just stopped in
my car. It was terrifying. I thought I was going

(10:51):
to drive off the road. So luckily I was on
a straight at the time, so I just kept accelerating.
And then it came up and over my roof and
went straight up and then it was silent. So it
wasn't a truck, it wasn't a motorbike. I don't know
what it was, but it was terrifying. And not long

(11:11):
after I was chatting to another Army guy and he
looked really stressed about something, so he was a friend
of her friends, so I tetted to him for a while,
and he said that he was really frightened because he'd
been chased by a big, loud, white light on the
country road. He was either going to the army based

(11:31):
or coming back, and I knew he was telling him
the truth because he was so absolutely terrified. So I
felt a little bit better because at least there was
someone else that's seeing the same thing as I had.
I didn't keep in contact with him. He was a
friend of my sisters, but it was good to know
that someone else had seen the same thing. Not long

(11:52):
after that, my partner and I woke up one night
and we were living in the house of no Insolation,
and it could get down to minus six minus seat
degree selsy es at night, so not too pleasant, and
when you breathed inside in winter, like them came out
of your mouth and it just wasn't heatable. Didn't matter
how much heating you put into the room, you just

(12:14):
couldn't make them warm. So we wore many layers to
be edged were like staring, more underwear and pajamas. Sometimes
I wore a dressing gown, always wore a hat in winter, socks.
Sometimes I'd even wear slippers to bed, that stuff freezing.
It was so one night we woke up and it
was kind of weird because I sleep on my side
all the time, and he swept on his stomach and

(12:38):
we woke up and we were both lying on our
backs and we were like we'd been placed in a coffin,
but our arms were by our sides and our toes
were pointed, and we were both naked, and it was
like we startled awake and we sat up and started
clawing at each other, going, what the hell happened? Were
are we naked? What we're clothes? What happened to us?

(13:01):
Where have we been? What's going on? And we were wet,
like soaking wet. Not out here, but our whole bodies
were wet. I don't know if you've had an operation
and you've been wiped down with whatever they wiped you
down with when you've had an operation, but it was
kind of wet like that, like it didn't dry. It
was I know, it was almost like being dunked in

(13:22):
a swimming pool and pulled straight out. That's how wet
we were and freezing cold. So the oddest thing about
that was our clothes were in two neat piles, almost touching,
but crumpled. They were all crumpled, one on top of
the other, like you'd packed them up in a heap,
taking them off and then dumped them in a heap.

(13:43):
And then the bed clothes and all the blankets. I
probably had about six blankets on my bed. They were
all pulled out perfectly straight and stretched on the floor,
as if someone had grabbed the bed clothes on each
side of the bed and then lifted them off and
walked them all the way up and stretched them out flat.
So we'd jumped out of bears. We're jumping around trying

(14:07):
to get warm, got to dressed, jumped back into bed,
and husband tried to get warm. And we never spoke
about it again, which is really strange, but probably one
of the strange things. That's what happened to me after that.
Not long after that, I moved up to Auckland where
I am now, and I was living in my boss's house,

(14:28):
and she had a beautiful home on the cliff top
and it was overlooking Little Mandy Beach in Golf Harbor,
and there's a little island that shaped like a sail.
I think it's called Someone's Hat as the name of
the island out in the bay, so that's pretty easy
to line things up with it and figure out how
being pubig things are. So one night, it was around

(14:51):
midnight and I was chatting to my friends overseas on Facebook,
and I saw I always had the person's open, so
I should mention that because it was such a beautiful
view of the ocean, and I saw an orange light
and it was ringed and red, and it was brilliant orange,

(15:13):
and it was out over the sea, and by measuring
it up against the island, I figured out it was
about the size of a single car garage. So I
watched it for a while and thought, oh, maybe it's
one of those balloons that people talk about. So watched
it for a little while and was going backwards and fords,

(15:34):
and then from across the ocean, a smaller blue orb
came in and it was a brilliant blue and it
was super fast. I couldn't understand how it could move
that fast, But then it stopped hid when it got
right next to the orange orb, and then they started
playing a game of like cat and mouse around the sky.

(15:54):
So I watched that for a little while and thought, oh,
maybe I should try and get some of this on
my phone on my camera, so I tried to video
it and it came out the orange ball just came
out like a little orange dot on the screen. So
I know I gave the phone away or got rid
of the phone it wasn't or deleted it. It didn't
come out of anything that was of any use to anyone.

(16:16):
The little blue light must have annoyed the orange light,
so the orange one started vibrating super fast from left
to right, and after a little while, the blue light
shot off back to sea at this massive speed. So
I was lucky enough to talk to Sudie Hanson, who's
on the new Focus group in New Zealand, and she'd

(16:37):
had two other people who had reported the orange light
that night, but not the blue one. So I hadn't
considered that I'd seen a UFO before in my life.
So I was having a lot of trouble trying to
deal with it. So instead of standing there and keeping
on watching it, I just shut the curtains and pretended
it didn't exist. Then every so often i'd poke my

(16:58):
head out in the crack and the curtain and it
was still there. So that was pretty interesting. A guy
and in the next bay he has it came right
up to his kitchen window, the orange light, and he
showed me a photo a few days later of the
flashing grass outside of his kitchen window. So that was

(17:18):
pretty cool that someone now said seen it as well.
And he had other fightings that led on from there.
One was he said, the following day he saw a
car that looked like a Jets and Bubble car from
the cartoon, and he said, you're not going to believe neither.
It's filled with a clichede assortment of aliens every type

(17:39):
you can imagine. There was one of each sitting in
there and they were just staring at him. So he
was incredibly freaked out by that. And I'm just glad
I didn't see anything like that. We moved after that,
we moved down to the southern end of Auckland, and
one night, so by now I realized that I was

(18:01):
actually seeing UFOs. I started googling and realized that it's
called an orange orb what I've seen, and that other
people have seen them as well. So now I'd known
that I'd seen in the UFO from a distance, but
the next one I saw up really close I was
driving home on the motorway from the city one night.

(18:22):
I'd dropped my boys into boarding school, and as I
was coming back, I saw what I thought was a
plane that couldn't make it to the airport, and that
was big, so I thought it was going to crash
on the motorway, and I kept driving to woods it
because I thought, well, I can either help out at
the accident scene, or if I can't help, I can

(18:43):
get off motorway, exit closer to home and get home.
So I got closer and closer, and when I was
probably about a kilometer away, I realized that wasn't a
plane at all, so I'd sit up. Everyone else is
doing about eighty ks on the motorway, realized to do
one hundred. I was probably doing one hundred and ten k.

(19:07):
Zoomed up and I found a place where I could
pull over in the breakdown lane and have a good
look at it. And it was the size of that
giant airbus plane, the A three eighty, the two story
plane and its wings were on one side of the motorway,
and then the other wing was on my side of

(19:29):
the motorway. But I couldn't see the shape of the craft,
but the shape of the lights were halfway between a
V and the boomerang, and the lights didn't illuminate anything.
They were probably trampoline sized, like the round trampoline size.
They were evenly spaced. There were seven lights, and this

(19:50):
craft could do figure eight almost on the outside light,
and it could bank almost onto its side, and it
was flying so lazy and slow. If it wasn't any
sort of craft we have, it would have fallen out
of the sky. So I watched that for a few minutes,
and then I'm thinking, this is really weird. There's no

(20:10):
vehicles on my side of the motorway, and there's no
vehicles on the other side of the motorway. And the
motorway is always busy, it doesn't matter what time of
the day or night. He's always hips the traffic. It'd
be free flowing that time of night. But I should
have been able to see a hundred cars around me,
and there were none. So I'm also noticing that those

(20:31):
craft doesn't make any sound. So I wound on my
window and I stuck the whole top half of my
body out of my vehicles, and it was absolutely silent.
So then another car came around the corner. It was
another lady by herself in her car, and she stopped
right in the middle of the motorway, and the look

(20:53):
of horror and shock on her face it was different
to my response. I was just curious. I thought, well,
it's not going to be able to do anything. It's
too big to land. Whatever it is, it can't hurt me,
so I'll just sit here and have a look. But
she was terrified, so we had a bit of a

(21:13):
yelled conversation between us and hand gestures, and then I thought, well,
a track could come around the corner and take her
out and kill her, so I better get her off
the motorway. So I gested for her to come over
closer to me, and I took off slowly. So my
radio was still working in my car, so I thought, well,
this can't be a UFO because my radio is working,

(21:34):
and isn't it supposed to have interference? I don't know,
And then I thought, well, I have a look at
my mirrors as I drove away, and I could see
it in my rear vision mirror and also in my
side mirror, so I could see it in a mirror.
Of whether that means anything or not, I don't know,
but instead of following me, she just took off at
great speed. So I was too scared to go and

(21:57):
cross the motorway and try and be exactly under I
locked on Google Maps later and there was a power station,
a little mini substation over where it was going round around,
so I don't know if that had anything to do
with it, but I went home and thought, well, surely
tomorrow on the news there's going to be thousands and

(22:20):
thousands of reports about this b shaped UFO go around
and around over the motorway. But there was nothing, nothing
at all, and I couldn't understand it, and it took
a lot of googling, and I found out about the
Phoenix lights, so it sounded like it was pretty similar
to the Phoenix lights. But I've since spoken to new

(22:42):
Facebook friends that were right there. One of the men
has seen two Phoenix light like brafts, and one I
think he said was over a kilometer across, so it
wasn't as big as that one. It was a whole
lot smaller, but the same sort of shape, and he'd
actually made a documentary about it, which I watched. We're

(23:02):
still Facebook friends today and I just keep waiting for
the next thing to happen. The next fighting I had
was another She's fighting. I was at home waiting to
go to my afternoon shift at work, and I just
knew I had to go out on the deck and
look up. And when I went outside and locked up,
there was a massive craft and it looked like it

(23:24):
was only halfway here, or it was a shadow on
our atmosphere. And it was shaped like a club, like
a long elongated club with a real fancy tail shape,
which those tails really hard to describe, but it was bizarre.
And I called out my son and his friend and
I said, what do you think that is up there?

(23:45):
And they had a look as well, and they said
they don't know. It must be a cloud. And I said, well,
clouds aren't great, and they don't come with a geometric
shape on the tail. That's the UFO. So I called out, hey,
you know, we can see you. You might want to
smudge around your itches, but a little bit, because people
can actually see you. And over the next hour more

(24:07):
clouds came in and covered it over. This craft took
up a quarter to a third of the sky and
linked that's how long it was, and it was above
the fluffy clouds, so I locked up how far that
was above us, And then with planes flying above the clouds,
I'm kind of in between three reports. I tried to

(24:28):
figure out how many planes were to sit in the tails,
and I think anywhere between one hundred and two hundred
planes would have split it in the tail section if
it was just above the clouds. But then I have
no way of gauging how high up it was. So
again we waited for that one, waited on the news
to see if that would be on the news, and

(24:48):
there wasn't a single report of it. So that one
had given me made me real nervous. It just about
my head, and because I realized that these writings were personal,
and there was personal to me and my family. It's
different seeing a UFO from a distance, but when you
see this one was packed right over my house.

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Speaker 5 (26:24):
I've got a friend who also sees UFOs and she's
recently moved away, But just before she moved, she came
over to my house. She was real pale and stressed,
and I asked her what was wrong, and she sees
that she's been waken up during the night and she
looked outside and she's seen a UFO and up above
the clouds, but it was a real weird shape. And

(26:47):
I say oh really, and I see was it like
Bester And I drew it really quickly, and she was
I think she was more horrified that I'd seen exactly
the same thing. The reason why I think I saw
only half there was iron. He saw a gray out,
like a gray, very soft gray color. She saw girders

(27:10):
underneath that. She said it had all sorts of different
all different sort of shapes underneath it. And she didn't
see the front of the craft. She only saw like
tail end of it. But she just couldn't believe that
I'd seen the same thing as her, So that was
kind of cool. We'd seen them a few well maybe
three years apart, but we've both seen the same craft
in the same part of New Zealand. The next one

(27:31):
I saw was during COVID. We were kind of between
lockdowns and I quickly whipped up the road to see
a girlfriend, and when she was saying goodbye to me
at the car, we saw there's a little boy. He's
autistic and he used to live in the same street
as the primary school, and he liked flying his Joane
at night with his dad. Because we lived by three airports.

(27:55):
They just fly it kind of just above the rooftops,
so it's not too high, and it looked like a
police helicopter had come over their house and had forced
the drone down a little bit lower, but the lights
were red, white and green, and then the lights turned
into a larger size, like trampoline size, And I said

(28:16):
to her, what's the sin it over there? And she
said it must be a police helicopter. And I said, well,
why can't we hear it? And she said, oh, it'll
just be a helicopter. Don't worry about it. So I
jumped in my car said goodbye to her. I knew
it wasn't a helicopter because we couldn't hear it for
a start, and it was only two blocks away, and
then I started driving closer and in my head, I'm

(28:37):
trying not to think about it, because I've got a
theory that they can hear you thinking about them, and
I wanted to get a photo of it. So next thing,
it stood up so that the points were pointed to
the sky, and it was turned into the seven light
halfway between a boomerang and a V shape again and

(29:00):
into the seven white lights, but instead of having seven
trampoline I was like, this time it had seven smaller
broat white lights and with the street lights, because it
was only the tail was just above the rooftops on
the house, I could see that the outline was very
slightly curved, and the craft looked like it was gun

(29:20):
metal gray. So I'm still driving towards it. I've been
driving about I must have been looking at it for
a few minutes by now, so it was only a
few seconds away from getting to the street and being
able to get a photo, and it completely disappeared. So
that was a bit disappointing. So the next one I
saw was I've had a few dreams over the years,

(29:42):
like more so in the last six to eight years,
and I've seen beings and that kind of a creamy
color was like giants reckors over them. And they've either
got black like typical aliens looking eyes what you see
of a gray but small. But they they sometimes have
blue eyes like more like ours, but they're a real

(30:04):
brilliant blue. So I'm not sure whether the black the
black powders like sunglasses they have over their eyes, or
whether they have two different sorts of eyes. And one
was always like getting really disappointed. I hadn't seen a
craft for ages, so it's where I was going to sleep.
I was wondering if I could see one, and I
really wanted to meet who was on board them. I

(30:26):
saw a group of them in my dream, and they
said not to not to cool them up because not
all of them are as nice as them. They were
all different heights and slightly different goals, but all with
that mothilly looking skin, and they were friendly. They seemed
friendly as but that gave me a fright so I stopped.
I stopped stressing about them, and stopped thinking about them

(30:49):
so much like I took it as a proper warning.
Another day, I was out hanging and washing and I
saw I saw a meteor coming down and it was
going to crash in my suburbs. And I started getting
really frightened because when it was a few blocks away
from my house and I'm not knowing what to do,
it felt like it was burning my eyelids and my face.

(31:11):
And then then the next thing, it's like far away.
So I went inside and I was really angry by now,
and I said, I don't know who you are or
what you're doing, but I want to see you, Like
where am I going? What's happening? What are you doing?
And I felt a pressure on my forehead, like you

(31:32):
know when you put a vacuum cleaner on your hands
to kiss how good the suction is. I felt like that,
and then little in my forehead got stronger, and it
got stronger, and then it got almost painful. And then
there was a blackbush of nothing, and then I was
in a tunnel and that tunnel looked like it was
made a plasma and it said like stars. I don't

(31:54):
know whether its stars or goods or at it. And
it was flowing that was bright pink and bright green
and clear, and I was flowing along the tunnel and
I thought, wow, this is amazing. And I was super calm,
like the date had calm, like I'd had a alien calm.
And I reached and tried to reached my arms out
to the side, just see if I could touch the side.
But I couldn't touch the side, so I wasn't sure

(32:14):
how big it was. And then I thought, well, that's
the cool I can fly like Superman. So I put
my arms out the front. And then there was a
bend in the tunnel like far away. So I was
getting closer and closer to it, and That's when I
started freaking out and realized that it was all very well,
flying along like Superman. But I didn't want to see
what was at the destination. I decided I wasn't brave enough,

(32:37):
so I started yelling out no, no, no, I said,
I wanted to see it. I didn't want to go there.
And the next thing I know, I'm back in my
dining room. That night, I had a dream my partner
and my son and I were standing on the deck
and an all craft came down. It was white, and
the light got bigger and bigger until it was all

(32:57):
dust on the deck. I woke up the next morning.
I've had a very long sleep. I don't sleep that long,
but I had an incredibly long sleep, and I was
dehydrated so much my mouth was stuck dry, and as
soon as I tried to roll over so that I
got a massive spooting blood nose. So I managed to

(33:19):
get to the bathroom and lay on the cold tiles
for about half an hour until it came down. When
I went to the toilet, my urine was so dark
brown it was almost black, and I was quite frightened
by now. I felt really sick. I was really hot,

(33:40):
I had the worst headache I've ever had in my life.
It felt like I'd been run over on my stomach
on the inside and out, felt like I'd been run
over and beaten up. It was really painful. It took
me three days of sculling water till I felt like
I was hydrated at all. I was that starved of water.

(34:00):
I asked my partner and he said we were all
in bed for the night, but I don't believe that
we were. I believe I went somewhere that night, so
I went. I managed to go the doctor a few
months later because I was scared that I'd blurt out
that I've been on a space ship, because I believe
I had been. I had blood tastes and that was
all fine, but it took months for my bleeding nose

(34:20):
to settle down. So after that then I started seeing
beings when I was awake. We have a lot of
police helicopters over my area. It's like quite a fancy
area in Auckland, and there's a lot of car FFTs
around here. There's not much garage packing. There's a lot
of people pack on the streets, so we have police

(34:41):
helicopters come over every night, and one night I hadn't
long gone to bed and I got woken up by
what I thought was a police helicopter. They light shining
in my window, so the lights were so bright I
couldn't I couldn't open my eyes properly to sea, and
it was really painful with the light. So I managed
to roll over and looks outside on the balcony and

(35:02):
there was definitely no helicopter deer. And then I freaked
out as the light was actually coming through my bedroom ceiling,
but it just came just below my bedroom ceiling. So
I lit up the room, but the brilliant white light
was my whole ceiling. When I'm squinting and I look
at the end of my bed and there's a small
I guess what you call a gray were about three

(35:25):
or four feet tall, and it was at the end
of my bed. And then the spot chicken. I didn't
see its legs moving. It was right up beside my
head and it kind of leaned over and it was
a feminine voice and it said, don't worry, You're not
going for long this time. So then I felt super calm,

(35:46):
and then which felt like I'd just fallen back into sleep.
My next memory, Oh, I freacked out, so I started
when I realized that the white light coming through the
ceiling wasn't a police helicopter. I started threshing around, trying
to get free in my bedding. The first thing I
did was try and reach for my partner, but he
wasn't in the bed, which was really strange because he

(36:07):
normally goes to bed real early. So then I tried
to get on my blankets and do vet's off me,
and I could feel the sweat falling off me because
I was working so hard trying to get out of bed.
And I managed to get one leg on the ground
and I was free of the blankets, but I hadn't
quite stood up when she told me not to worry

(36:27):
that I wouldn't be gone for long. Then I woke
up on a table that was soft and hard. I
don't know how to describe it. I was in like
a silvery room. There were no corners like where the
warm at the floor. It was rounded and I could
see out into a corridor. And I was still threshing
as if I was in bed, trying to get rid

(36:48):
of my blankets, so I couldn't see anyone around me.
And a few seconds of that, and then it was
like I was unconscious. So I kind of wrote that
one off as a nightmare, but I'm not convinced because
of the sweat that I could feel forming And when

(37:09):
my partner did eventually come up to bed, he'd stayed
downstairs till well after midnight, but he's normally in bed
to sleep by eight or nine, so it just seems
really weird. I think he was consulted to stay downstairs
and I went on the trip that time. The latest
one was I would have been about last April May,

(37:30):
so i'd gone up to bed. It was the end
of daylight saving, so it was getting dark pretty early.
It was only like seven forty at night. And the
only reason I'd come upstairs was because my partner likes
watching dumb YouTube videos and I prefer to watch something
different or read a book or whatever. So I was
just sitting on the bed closed watching TV seven forty

(37:52):
at night. And then and in my head, I hear
go to sleep, and I think, why would I go
to sleep at this timmer night. It's not even quite
dark yet. Go to sleep? Okay, So I'll go to sleep.
Maybe I just need to have an early night, but
I'm not tired. Go to sleep, okay, So I turn

(38:13):
off the TV leave the bed sidelight on so my
partner can see when he comes up to bed leader
And normally I faced the balcony to going to go
to sleep, but this time I faced the doorway, and
as my eyes were closing, I felt someone's in the room,
and it was a freaky feeling, like when I always

(38:36):
sleep with my bedroom door open for fresh air. But
one of my sons has a habit. He'll tiptoe into
the foot of the bed and then call out Mum
quite loud and just about give me a heart attacks.
So I thought he gets into the room quietly again,
and I hadn't heard him, so I panged my eyes open.
So I'm wide awake, and there's two being standing in

(38:57):
my room. So I'm wide awake. They're not quite here,
they're by see through one of them. Their head is
almost touching the feelings, and the are the ones like
a shorter one like I've seen before, but the tall
one stepit spingily. Their thumbs and legs are as bad
as broomsticks, or maybe a little bit more, and they're

(39:21):
like kind of grayish, but see through grayish, bluish, but
see through, and I can see they've got muscled skin,
and I can see their heads are perfectly oval, and
their eyes are black, and I can see an almost nose,
and I can see all my lips. I can't see ears.
I can see the muscling on their chests and on

(39:42):
their necks, and I can see the bones, and I
guess the tendons in their necks. I don't know, is
that what they called tendons. And they seem to have
clothing and it was tight fitting in the taller one
upper arm were a lot shorter than ours, so the

(40:03):
elbow was a lot higher, so it had an incredibly
short upper arm, but normal links the rest of the arms,
so overall their arms listed the length of their body,
but just the elbow joint was in the wrong place.
And so I sat up in bed and then leaned
over the bed because I wanted to see what their
feet looked like. And the big one I could tell

(40:25):
that it definitely had two or three toes, and the
little one as well, but the little one at feet
were planted on the floor, but the taller one was
hovering just over the floor. And then the both of
them together. When I sat up, they realized that I
was actually awake, that I hadn't been knocked out, and

(40:46):
they both at the same time leaned their heads flowed,
and they looked really inquisitive, like they were kicking me
out like a science experiment or something. And then they
both tilted their heads slightly to the side, and I
sort of gave them a week wave, thinking well, you
know what's going to happen next, And it seemed forever

(41:07):
that we were just staring at each other and nothing
was happening. And then I thought, well, if they're going
to take me somewhere, I'm going to have a really
terrible sleep, and I hope I don't wake up horribly
sick tomorrow. Then I started getting scared and I had
I saw if they come another step closer, I'm going
to kill them in my head, and then let it

(41:29):
be known that if they came any closer to me,
because I suddenly got frightened, and then it was like
I'd been knocked out, and I just remember falling back
towards the pillows, and that's the last real signing off
had apart from So when would it have been August
August last year, I saw a giant sighing saucer in

(41:50):
the clouds just to the left of my house, and
on the top of it it looked black, like a
black raised it on the top, like a black dome
on top, and it was tilted in the clouds, hiding
in the clouds. But because I was beside the cloud,
I could see it. And then over time the clouds
covered it and you couldn't see it anymore. And that

(42:13):
brings us just about up to do, because when you
talk about it, all the feelings come back, some like
it's just happened there, and then sure, so you yeah,
you feel sometimes that you were fearful. Oh so the ones,
the last ones that I saw, I didn't feel that
they were unfriendly, and I didn't feel that they were
going to hurt me. It was that I panicked, Yeah,

(42:33):
and I panicked. I don't think they would have hurt me,
just I don't know whether it had been a minute
or more had passed however long we were staring at
each other, but there got to be a point where
what's going to happen next? And I wasn't sure, so
I got frightened. But I haven't seen any since then,
so that's been probably about nine however many months eight

(42:53):
nine months.

Speaker 6 (42:54):
Ago, so it's been very quiet recently.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
Definitely ramping up now I can actually see me and
remember seeing them.

Speaker 6 (43:02):
And does it bother you all seeing them?

Speaker 5 (43:04):
No, it doesn't bother me now. And I've been apologizing
profusely for telling them that I was going to kill
them if they came a step closer, because I don't
think they were here to hurt me. I think they
were super friendly, like they were just so calm and
stuft while and gentle. I was quite awful to them, really,

(43:25):
And I don't get why people call them demons. I
don't think they are. I think I don't know. I
just think they have their best interest at heart. I
think it's intergenerational because I'm sure my dad had such
a massive interest in UFOs for a reason, and I
know that my children have seen them as well, so

(43:47):
I'm guessing it's intergenerational. Yeah. I hope I see more
because I want to. I want to talk to them
and ask the Christians and be able to remember because.

Speaker 6 (43:55):
Of course you had the sighting as well, and.

Speaker 5 (44:00):
Is you never know when you're going to see them either, like, usually,
I'll have my phone next to me. No matter what
I do, I'll take my phone wherever I go because
I want to try and record them, and each and
every time that I haven't picked up my phone, that
will be when I'll see them.

Speaker 6 (44:15):
Yeah, it's usually. It's usually the way that when you
had the experience when you're driving the car on the
freeway with the white ball of light. Yes, and you
said that actually came through the wind screen.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
The light came in through the back windscreen, but it
didn't go out the front. It was like the whole
car was full of light, but it didn't light up
the road in front of me. So if it had
been a track or whatever, you would have seen it
lighting up the road in front, and you also would
have seen it overtake me. So it disappeared. I'm guessing

(44:46):
when it got to the roof of my car just
went straight up.

Speaker 6 (44:49):
How big was it?

Speaker 5 (44:50):
I filled one half of the road. So oh that
was on the country road. So how wide there's a
lane on the road or five minutes at least that wise,
and taller than my car.

Speaker 6 (45:04):
They just passed passed out the top.

Speaker 5 (45:06):
It must have passed over the top because if it
had stopped, I would have seen that behind me, And
if it had passed in front of me, my car
head lights would have illuminated whatever it was. But it
came up to my back wind screen of my car,
the light filled the car, and then pretty much as
soon as it got to my car, the noise stopped

(45:27):
and it was completely gone.

Speaker 6 (45:28):
And and your army friend had a very similar sight
in quite recent to that.

Speaker 5 (45:33):
He had exactly the same experience, but he was on
a motorbike. Imagine how scary that would have been. He
was on his motorbike coming into town or going out
to the army either or so, that would have been
so terrifying. I had the protection of my car around me.

Speaker 6 (45:49):
Was that in the same general location, same location.

Speaker 5 (45:52):
It was just outside Palmerston North, between Palmerston North and
Lindon Army Camp and around the same time, within a
few months or so of the same time as me.

Speaker 6 (46:03):
Yeah, that's a bit of a coincidence that one.

Speaker 5 (46:05):
Yeah, and I knew something was wrong with him, so
I didn't tell him about my experience. First, I asked
him why what was wrong with him? Because he looked
so stressed all the time, and he offloaded his experience
to me, and then I very happily told him that
the same had happened to me, which made both of
us feel a whole lot better.

Speaker 6 (46:25):
Yeah, it's always good if someone else has shared the same,
you know, the same experience you have. Yes, it's confirmation as.

Speaker 5 (46:33):
Well, Yes, confirmation that you're not hallucinating.

Speaker 6 (46:37):
Certainly saying a lot going on in New Zealand.

Speaker 5 (46:40):
Ah, yeah, there is. It's a bit of a highway
here that with the lay lines. I don't know if
you've read anything of Bruce Kesey, the Pilots and the
Cookora Lights, but he wrote books on the lay lines
and the Orange aw befos them to go up and
down the west coast of the North Island, up and
down the coast out towards Pe harm other way. There's

(47:03):
been a lot of sightings out that way.

Speaker 6 (47:05):
Yeah. Sure, these lay lines are these power lines criss
crossed the planet, didn't they?

Speaker 5 (47:09):
Yes, So I had a look in. There's one by me,
so I get see. They look like the moon, but
super low. They fly by my house, so north of
my house they flow from east to west, and south
of my house they go from with the east. So
I seem to be on a bit of a highway

(47:31):
as well, so you just catch them out of the
corner of your eye. Sometimes you'll get a real good look.
So a few times as well, I've been outside my
house when I still live at the beach, and I
thought the moon was in the wrong place, but it
was just above the roofhouse top that my brain couldn't
comprehend what I was looking at. So my brain's telling
me it's the moon, but it's an orange orb.

Speaker 6 (47:51):
And you journal all these experiences.

Speaker 5 (47:54):
Down, yes, I do. I've drawn like hand drawn pictures
of them, and then I write about them and just
to keep a record. Sometimes that take the earlier ones,
it could take like six months or a year before
I could even talk about it to anyone because it
would take that long to process that through my brain.

(48:14):
And your brain's trying to tell you it's not real
and it didn't happen, and you if those aren't real.
So until it's kind of until you've seen someone else
has had the same sort of experience, you can't exhibit
it yourself, of course, but now it's a lot easier.
I can normally tell someone within hours or a day

(48:34):
if I've had a sighting. I can chat to my
online friends about it.

Speaker 6 (48:39):
Of course, because it's very important that more people you know,
come forward with their experiences and the and their sightings obviously,
so this is a called out to New Zealand. You know,
anyone listen out there which want to share their experience,
come forward because obviously the more, the more.

Speaker 5 (48:52):
The better I hope they do, because you feel so
alone until you bump into other people that have had
the same topic experiences. The only lady that I know
from New Zealand that's had the same sort of things
really she's in the Cadgol. She had them more intense
experiences than me. And then my friend that's moved down

(49:13):
there by christ Church, so I've got no one local
and I can talk to about it.

Speaker 6 (49:18):
What is the general attitude towards these type of encounters?

Speaker 5 (49:22):
It's not real, you're crazy, it's not real.

Speaker 6 (49:26):
What about when the news cover stories.

Speaker 5 (49:28):
Are most people, it's still not real. You're crazy. Even
on the few that the news does cover or it's
just unexplained or they'll say it's us secret craft or whatever.
But I know that's not true.

Speaker 6 (49:41):
You know that general attitude, you know it's difficult because
people don't want to come forward and share it without
being ridiculed and made fun of, you know, whether it's
from their peers or family members.

Speaker 5 (49:51):
Oh absolutely, And I work in a school as well,
so that makes it even more difficult.

Speaker 6 (49:56):
Yeah, understandable.

Speaker 5 (49:57):
And I left takes out. There's just so many, but
we you try to put them all together, you actually
realize that it's remping up. I'm saying more and more
every year, I'm saying more than the year before, or
I'm remembering more.

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Speaker 5 (50:52):
Yeah, my friend James, she thinks I've got alien kids
as well, but that's more than my mind can be
a I'd rather not know. So I'm not an interested
in having regression because I'm not sure that regression therapy
is one hundred percent truthful or accurate. So I'd rather
just most of my fightings have been when I'm wide awake,
so I think my own memory is good enough.

Speaker 6 (51:12):
Yeah, and you're happy with that. Yeah, some people, you know,
it's not really for them.

Speaker 5 (51:16):
Yeah, I mean maybe if I'd figured it out when
I was like twenty or something. Yeah, but it's even weird.
It's kind of like they put something in your mind
so you don't even consider it because like listening to
it is ridiculously obvious at this point in my life,
and it seems to be when I've spoken to my friends, said,
most of the women, they don't come to a realization

(51:37):
until their late forties or early fifties. They suddenly fetch
it all together.

Speaker 6 (51:42):
Yeah, that's often the age. Yeah, I believe it or not.

Speaker 5 (51:44):
Yeah, Well, hopefully you'll get some listeners out of that,
and you might even I might even get someone that
wants to contact me and wants to offload about their
experiences quietly. You know, in my suburb these few t
or three thousand houses, and I know for how I've
seen them get visiting craft. I know of four houses
in my suburb, and that's just the ones I've seen,

(52:06):
so I think it's a whole lot more common than
what people realize.

Speaker 6 (52:09):
Yeah, it's a lot more common. And I said, you know,
you've got the people which remember, then you've got the
people which is either purely don't remember because they're not
allowed to or themselves are not allowed them to remember.

Speaker 5 (52:21):
Yeah. Yeah, and books. That was the thing that our
parents did because there was no internet, so they'd buy
the books. And even when I was having most of mine,
there was we didn't have internet at home. So the
internet's really I've only had really good Internet in the
last ten years, so it's only in the last ten
years that I've managed to find the people, the people

(52:43):
that have helped me cope with it exactly. And even
if you look on Google, it's like most of the
results are hidden. So you try and look something up
and you can't find you can't find what you're looking for.
You have to go on another search engine and you'll
get a whole lot more answers.

Speaker 6 (52:59):
Yeah, I mean many years ago. Obviously, before the Internet,
you'd have to obviously you'd buy a book, a specialist book.
You know, it couldn't just be about unexplained mysteries. It
would probably be a book written predominantly for this, and
then there might be an address in the very back
of the book that might say, you know, if you
want to running information or you want to share your experience,
you can write to this address, you know, and then
you might get you might eventually get a letter back

(53:20):
from you know, the author or whatever. But yeah, there
just wasn't anything around, even in the UK and the
night is. You know, there was there was information, but
we didn't have the Internet, and of course you had
the movers and stuff coming out, but that was about it.

Speaker 5 (53:32):
And movies are stories. You don't connitt, you don't commit
stories on TV or movies. It's not the same.

Speaker 6 (53:42):
No, it's not the same. And most movies that do
get made about this kind of thing aren't very accurate,
you know. They're more ramped up, the more made to
look better than the actually you know, even though the
actual truth is usually stranger. But these Hollywood movers and
that they tend to glamorize it up a bit, a
little bit too much for my liking.

Speaker 5 (54:01):
Yeah, and even Trevis Walson who said that they kind
of made out, they kind of made the alien's bed
whereas he actually thinks in real life they were actually
good and they were trying to help them that accidentally
blasted them, and we're trying to make him better before
depositing him back.

Speaker 6 (54:17):
Yeah that's right, Yeah, that's true. Yeah, it was just
it was a mistake more than anything else. He just
got he's got in the way of it.

Speaker 5 (54:22):
But all the people that I know, sort of apart
from the guy and why we're upper, all the people
that I have chatted to online around New Zealand or
in Australia, they all seem to have had mostly positive experiences.

Speaker 6 (54:36):
A lot of people generally have bad experiences in the
beginning for many years and it's not until later life
that they realized, you know that it's not wasn't that bad.
They didn't really mean you mean you any harm.

Speaker 5 (54:48):
Yeah. I'm pretty sure when I when I was angry
and frightened, I was coming back with massive bruises on me,
like suff full sized bruises on my abdomens and my
under my arms, like I've been fighting something. So I
think that was my fear. I haven't had bruises and
several years now, so since I've stopped being frightened, I

(55:10):
haven't been harmed.

Speaker 6 (55:11):
I mean, it's quite understandable, isn't it.

Speaker 5 (55:13):
Yeah, yeah, because you get a fright. I think they
sedate you. So whether they do it with a frequency,
you know, like a sound or something like even their voice.
It's like I've had bailium once before in operation, and
it's like you've had a alien. Like the whole world
could be exploding around you and you wouldn't even react.

(55:33):
That's how calm you feel.

Speaker 6 (55:35):
I mean, you've got to understand that. I mean, of
course people have traumatic experiences, you know, because you know
you're basically being taken out your bed at night. You
know you're very vulnerable. You don't know what's going on.
People are going to be scared, you know, and they're
going to be if they're able to lash out.

Speaker 5 (55:49):
Yeah, when you feel like it's not your choice, like
you feel like you're a dog or something, you know,
compared to them, Like they can speak to you, but
it's in your head that's not really as not coming
out their lips kind of in your head. Do you
feel like you're a pit rather than a person.

Speaker 6 (56:05):
But when they're showing no emotion, you know, they're just
kind of just getting on with their job.

Speaker 5 (56:09):
Yeah, I don't have any memories of anything nasty, but
the ones that I saw, the last ones I saw
when I was wide awake, they just sort of gentle
and sweet, furious concerned that I was awake. I could
feel a whole lot of things, and normally I can
hear a conversation, but because they were only halfway here,
there was no conversation going between us. Yeah, so now

(56:30):
I know not to be scared now. But I'm just
waiting twice through the next ones. I'm really looking forward
to that, and I'll let you know if what ever happens.
By all means, Yeah, I had an experience where I
was sitting at a bus stop during the day and
looking out over the sea and looking back over my
life since the last one when I was awaken. They
try and put you to sleep. I've had heaps of

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times they've tried to put me to sleep and I've
managed to fight it. But I was sitting at the
bus stop and just cunked out and was out for
over an hour, like sitting looking straight out at day
with my fung glasses on. And when I came back
to this's exactly where I was. Same position.

Speaker 6 (57:05):
Yeah, day or night. It doesn't matter at a location, Yeah,
day or night.

Speaker 5 (57:09):
Crowded or not crowded, exactly.

Speaker 6 (57:11):
It doesn't make a difference whether it's in the middle
of the desert or in New York City. It still happens.

Speaker 5 (57:16):
Yeah, absolutely. Oh well, good talking to you, Chris.

Speaker 6 (57:19):
I really appreciate you coming on and sharing that for
our listeners.

Speaker 5 (57:22):
Oh yeah, no worries. Hopefully it'll help somebody or help
them remember or whatever it will.

Speaker 6 (57:28):
Don't worry and enjoy the rest of your day, all right,
next see you, take care, bye, bye bye. That is
all for this week. Keep updated and connected with the
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on my website at UFO Chronicles podcast dot com. A
big thank you to Chris for sharing tonight, and thank
you all for listening. I'll be back next week till
they and stay safe and keep watching the skies. Goodbye.