Ep.166 The Four Who Are One (Throwback)

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
You'll be away five seventeen.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Do you want to report a UFO hanging in? We
don't want.

Speaker 1 (00:06):
To report every thirty one.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Do you wish to report a UFO over hey, we
want to one of those areas thirty one.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Do you wish to find a report of any kind
of it?

Speaker 2 (00:18):
I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds time areas
thirty one?

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Me neither there. See if it was anybody above us
to pass us, Like thirty seconds ago, we were sending
one of golf negative.

Speaker 4 (00:34):
Okay, OFFI the UFO.

Speaker 2 (00:37):
Yeah, it's murder ten nine o'clock. Yes, I'll just passed over.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
I got. I don't know what it was, but.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
It's from at least to three thousand feet above us.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
See, I passed right over the top of us.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Ninety one one.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
You just called both to be be fours.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
They're after staying the airplanes.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
He is God on an unidentified object every liberty four
call or calm on an unidentified flying object.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share
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(01:48):
Hello everyone, and welcome to the podcast. I hope you
are having a good week. I'm Nick Hunter and you're
listening to the UFO Chronicles podcast. Tonight we meet Robin
from Colorado, and Robin is a lifelong experiencer with visitations
by non human entities, vivid dreams of UFOs, outer body experiences,

(02:08):
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(03:00):
welcome to the show.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Him next. Thank you so much. I'm so happy to
be with you.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Great to have you come on. And you're calling from
Colorado today?

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Yes, yep, Western Colorado.

Speaker 3 (03:10):
Good stuff. Okay, Now, Robin, as a lifelong experiencer, you're
going to be sharing several of your encounters. Would you
like to start in the very beginning for us?

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Please? Yeah, Nick, thank you so much. So the timeline
is going to be a little I want to jump
around a little bit, because, strangely, the beginning of all
of this for me in a conscious way was in
late twenty nineteen. I had had life long experiences, and

(03:40):
I had obviously gone through the process of living them,
but I hadn't been able to order it into anything
that made sense. It was just a lot of fear
that went along with it that in late twenty nineteen,
I hadn't had experiences for a few years, and in
December twenty nineteen at all started up again. And what

(04:03):
happened during that time was that I began to have
paralysis and you know, buzzing and visitations once again that
I had had earlier in my life. And what this
generally feels like is I'm laying in bed and all

(04:25):
of a sudden, my body just starts going through an
overwhelming buzzing sensation. And in late twenty nineteen, when this
started happening again, The first experience that I had during
that time was that I had that intense buzzing sensation
and I, you know, there's always often a feeling of

(04:46):
sort of lifting up. Sometimes it's a full out of
body experience, or sometimes it's just this sensation of being listed.
And I lifted up. I rose into this golden, buzzing,
overwhelming light, and I heard a collective of voices that
I've heard before, and they said, we can't go that low.

(05:10):
You have to come higher, and the buzz being intensified,
and I went higher and I just went into a
very altered state that was all emotion and sensation and light,
and that sort of restarted all of my experiences in
twenty nineteen, and then after that I had several out

(05:33):
of body experiences which I haven't had for a long time.
It's really overwhelming, you know. The paralysis is terrifying. The
not being able to talk to anybody about it is terrifying,
not knowing what it is or what to do with it.
And so as a result of that, I decided to
get a between life's soul regression, which Michael Newton did

(05:59):
a lot of work around this, and basically, you know,
a path like regression is how it starts, and then
you regress to the time between lies and sort of
find out what your sole mission is. And I really
wanted to know why this was happening to me, What's
my purpose on Earth. I've always been very had this
very strong sense of mission, so I had this regression,

(06:22):
and through the regression I had was very unexpected and rattling,
you know, it was. It was a very difficult experience
to go through. But basically during my between life space,
I communicated with beings from other planets, from another space
or dimension or planet. I'm not sure exactly what it was,

(06:45):
but told me that I had signed up for this
and gave me a specific mission as to why I
was here. And that was, like you said, absolutely unexpected,
and it rattled me from many after that experience. And
one of the things that they told me to do
was to write a book, which I thought was the

(07:07):
most ridiculous thing that an extra trust trial being could
tell you was to write a book. But I've since
learned that that's apparently something that happens, and it was
through writing the book and looking back through my life
that I was able to kind of make sense of everything.
That it happened to me, or at least put it

(07:27):
into a narrative that is useful rather than it being
just a series of scary and confusing experiences. And so
with that, I'll start now kind of at the beginning.
My very first experience that I remember. I was four
or five years old. I grew up very connected to nature.

(07:52):
My parents were back to the lander hippies. I grew
up in a geodesic dome for the first several years.
We didn't have of indoor plumbing, we didn't have electricity.
We lived in a little valley in the middle of
nowhere in southern Colorado, and it was a very idyllic childhood.
But I'm an extremely sensitive person. I was an extremely

(08:15):
sensitive child, and so being that closely connected to nature
and not having any buffer between between my experience of
the world, and it wasn't run through the culture, you know,
it was. It was a very direct experience of life.

(08:35):
And so when I was four or five years old,
I remember standing in you know, downstairs in the dome
in the kitchen, which would have been difficult for me
to get to without waking up the house because it's
sort of a one room space and there's a ladder
like staircase made of wood and it's sort of creaky,

(08:58):
and there's you know, I don't know how I got
down without without waking up the house. But I was
standing down in the kitchen and in front of me
was a it's still difficult to talk about this stuff,
but in front of me there was an inspectoid being
and I wasn't afraid. He had an exoskeleton and this

(09:20):
sort of red brown and otherwise is human shaped, you know,
ahead and two arms and two heads. Because of the
exoskeleton and the color, I called him aunt Man in
my head, and that's what I called him. That's what
I still call him, because that's that's how it presented
to me in my you know, four or five year

(09:41):
old mine. That's the closest I could come. And he
was standing in front of me, and I got the
sense that he was just checking on me. I had.
I have a couple of other vague memories from childhood
that where he would come and visit. But mixed in
with with that experience and with those early years of
my childhood were also these dreams of armageddon. I called

(10:05):
him my armageddon dreams. I would have for example, after
this experience at four or five years old, I recall,
you know, the next thing I kind of remember was
being in this dream of seeing the planet in turmoil,
so explosions and fire and people running and visions like that.

(10:28):
And I had those dreams for most of my life.
I haven't had them in a while, but when I
was a kid, they were common and my parents, we
were not religious. I certainly at that age, had no
context for them, so it was scary. So I would
have these dreams, and also along with his dreams this
very intense sense of mission, like I was supposed to

(10:49):
do something about this, which was also very confusing. I
had multiple times where I would sort of wake up
and be outside of my house in the sky, you know,
the sensation of kind of floating away from from my
home with an entity next to me. And those were

(11:14):
just common experiences when I was a kid. It was
it was part of the landscape of reality for me,
and I didn't realize until later that everybody's landscape wasn't
that way. The first time that I saw a UFO
that I can remember, I was probably ten or eleven

(11:35):
years old, and my sister and my cousins and I
had gone to sleep in the front yard and a tent,
and it was summer and we had the rain flap
offs who we were laying in the tent looking up
at the sky, and I lived, you know, we lived
very remotely, so the stars were always incredible, and there
was a red light in the sky that my memory

(11:59):
of it is, but it was really really high up
in the stars. It wasn't low down in the valley,
and it was flying back and forth and making sharp
right and left turns and zipping around, going really fast
and then going slower, and we were all excited by it.
I was really really excited by it because it was

(12:19):
kind of undeniably something that was not identifiable. We didn't
know what it was. And I just note that because
I'd forgotten about that for a really long time. But
I had that experience. But again, going back and writing
this book and kind of putting all of these pieces together,
I remembered. I've remembered quite a bit of what happened.

(12:42):
So I'm a very very sensitive kid in this very
idyllic life. I grew up around horses and we had
a beehive, and it was a really beautiful, beautiful childhood.
And I because of my nature, because of my sensitive
When I left that valley to go to college, I

(13:04):
was very unprepared for the world. My connection to the
natural world made sense to me. It wasn't There was
no fairy tale, sort of Disney version of nature. I
saw the hard things. I saw when things died, I
saw things being born. It made a lot of sense
to me. And going out into I guess the real

(13:26):
world made no sense to me. It was very, very difficult,
and I spent a lot of time just kind of
running during that time. I had a lot of chaos
in my life, addiction, and the world was very scary
for me and remained that way for a really long time.
And I bring that up because there was a there

(13:48):
seemed to be a correlation for me. Not always, but
several times in my life when I sort of stapt
running and settled down somewhere and got sober for a
period of time, all of these anomaloust experiences would come back.
That pattern repeated several times in my life. And the

(14:09):
first time that it did I was living in northern
New Mexico and my life was very quiet. I had
a career, I you know, I kind of had my
life together a little bit, and and right in the
middle of that, I started, for the first time that
I remember in my life, having that paralysis I was
talking about. So I would be laying in bed, falling asleep,

(14:34):
and suddenly this overwhelming buzzing sensation would happen, and also
just full body paralysis. And for anyone who's had that experience,
you know, it's completely terrifying. It's absolutely terrifying. And many
times there would be a sensation of someone in the room,
the feeling of something climbing onto the bed. I had

(14:55):
several experiences where I woke up out of that and
everything in my room would be shaking, the bed would
be shaping, there would be paintings smacking the walls, really
really terrifying things happening, and I had no context for it.
I didn't know what to do with it. Often during
that time as well, I would sort of go through

(15:18):
that experience, have a sensation of losing consciousness, and then
I would be standing on the floor next to my bed,
looking down at my own body and bed. So what
I later learned were out of body experiences. And during
that several times there would be a being there, an
entity there, and they would take me and we would

(15:38):
travel together, would wake up in the morning after this
and research what is this, What's happening to me? And
the closest that I could come to was the sleet proalysis.
And there are a lot of similarities between fleet proalysis
and what I experienced, and then there are a lot
of things that are not that as well. Sleet paralysis
doesn't make everything in the bed, you know, in the

(16:00):
bedroom shake, and I have heard of people having sleep
proalysis and then going into out of body experiences. So
it was the closest that I could come to what
I was going through, but it didn't answer all of
my questions. And I finally confided in some people about
what was going on with me, and you know, the

(16:22):
answers that I got were, maybe you should see a psychiatrist,
and you know, this is a medical issue and or
a mental state issue or something.

Speaker 5 (16:32):
And that was.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
Really a difficult time for me as well, because I
had the sensation that it wasn't just that because of
my experiences as a child, I had similar things happened before,
so there were multiple things going on at this time.
Another thing that happened was that I in my dreams.
I began to have these orbs, you know, or spheres

(16:54):
of color and light show up, and so I would
be dreaming often and Armageddon dream very distressing, you know,
running and lines of refugees and out of the sky,
and those dreams would float down, these orbs, and there
was three of them. One was sort of a purple,

(17:15):
a deep purple, one was kind of an indigo blue,
and then there was a green one, and they would
float down out of the sky. Oftentimes they would sort
of envelop me in the dream, and that be this
again sort of sensation of becoming unconscious and then waking
up in a new place or shifting to a different dream.

(17:38):
I know, I've had so many of these experiences that
I am able to discern when it's a dream, when
it's out of body, and when there's something else going
on that's more physical than that. So these fears began
to teach me things and give me these lessons. One

(17:59):
of them, for example, the most one that has stayed
with me for up until today. You know, it's kind
of a lesson that I go back to over and over,
and it was specifically with the purple sphere. It sort
of flexed around me, and I popped into the bubble
of this purple sphere and inside was a being, an

(18:21):
entity where wearing a long purple cloak with a high collar,
feminine looked human but had crazy wild gray hair and
a feeling of being sort of in a teaching space
was the sense that I got. And walking along, we

(18:43):
were walking through a landscape similar to where I grew up,
so it was you know, the Southwest and practices and
things like that, walking through this landscape, and she was
speaking to me and teaching me things, and she was
saying that in order to move to a new sort
of state of being, to a new paradigm, all of

(19:04):
the bodies have to be close in frequency of vibration.
And in this space that made absolute sense to me.
I understood what she was talking about. As we were
walking along, there was a there was a spider rising
on the ground in front of us, and she was
very clear to say, she said, this isn't literal. This

(19:26):
isn't you know, a literal spider that we're seeing. There's
nothing bad about spiders, nothing like that. But what she
was showing me was there was all this like anger
and pain and rage coming off in this spider and
being in this this sphere that we were in, it
was rising in pain and couldn't couldn't exist there because

(19:47):
because of all the anger, and eventually it died, and
I understood the metaphor of that. In that space, there
was just so much clarity. My consciousness was kind of
free of all of my doubts and over analyzing and
meaning making, and she showed me that metaphor, and it
makes sense to me. We continued walking along and came
to the edge of the sphere and on the outside

(20:08):
of it was a friend of mine who was angry
and raging and crying, and I was saying, come in here,
it's great. In here, everything makes sense and it's really clear,
and it's just about love. And the being that was
next to me reminded me. She said, her physical body

(20:30):
could not make the trip at this moment. If she
tries to move from that state of being into this
other state of being too quickly, her physical body won't
survive the trip. And so that's just an example of
the things that I was being taught and how that
lesson has continued to unfold through my life and I
continue to have a greater understanding of it as especially

(20:51):
now as I'm kind of returning to going at the
pace of my physical body and really listening to its wisdom,
understanding that I can't just snap my fingers and be
in a new state of being that my emotional body,
my physical body, my mental body of existence, I'll have
to go together, and the body goes the slowest. So

(21:13):
that's an example of what I was being taught during
that time. I kind of in response to it felt
like in response to me considering being a psychiatrist and
going on medication during all of these difficult things that
were happening. During this time, I also started to have
a lot of precognitive events, so mostly in dreams, I

(21:37):
would have this really detailed dream of someone in my life,
and I would wake up and I would call them
or send them an email or something and tell them
about it, and over and over again they would say,
how did you know that? Oh, my god, that's exactly
what's going on. So I started getting all this confirmation
that the things that were happening inside of me were

(22:01):
somehow connected to things that were happening outside of me,
and that gave me courage and it gave me strength
to believe in my own experience rather than what you know,
the culture might have to say about my experience that

(22:21):
I needed medication or something like that. So that was
a really helpful thing that happened during that time as well.
And the next one of the top three most profound
and important experiences in my life happened. After the precognitive
dreams began and the spears you know, were actively coming

(22:43):
to me, I was still having the prolysis and the
fear that was going on with that, and one night
I was in I was paralyzed, and I was fighting.
I was really fighting to get out of this proalysis
because it's so terrifying. So I would be paralyzed and
I would use all of my effort and will and
wrench my body and move my body, and then I

(23:07):
would instantly be paralyzed again, and it sort of felt
like I was drowning and I could not get my
head above water, and it seemed like it went on
for hours in the middle of the night, just fighting
this prolysis, And finally, because I didn't know what else
to do, decided I had the thought, what if I

(23:28):
just surrendered to this, What if I just stopped fighting
and let whatever was going to happen happen. Others have
asked me if that's a good idea, and I don't
know the answer to that. I don't know if that's
a good idea to surrender to these things that are happening.
But when I did, I which took a lot of courage.

(23:49):
I had to really kind of gather my courage to
surrender and stop fighting against the prolysis and just let
whatever was going to happen happen to me. So when
I was able to do that, the buzzing, the overwhelming
noise and light and vibration came over me and it
felt like I was inside of it. And instantly my

(24:14):
my consciousness was clear. I was not, you know, the
fear was gone, the the constraining, restricting parts of my
mental process were gone, and I was just had a
lot of clarity of consciousness. And what I realized was
that all of these you know, the buzzing, this vibration,

(24:35):
was every sound simultaneously on the planet, was what I
was the information that I was told, or that I
just knew. I feel like I just knew that that's
what it was. And because of that, I knew that
I that anywhere that I wanted to go, anywhere that
I wanted to travel. All that I had to do
was focus on a specific sound and I would instantly

(24:57):
be there. And that's what happened. So I I focused
on one particular sound, which was a rustling in the leaves,
and I instantly I felt like I was zooming through space,
but that it happened in an instant just to get
to that location where that was happening. And what it

(25:17):
was was night in a jungle and there was a
jungle cat with black panther or jaguar, and I instantly
went inside of that being. My consciousness went inside of
the of that being, and I had the sensation, I

(25:37):
had every sensation that that cat had. Exquisitely sensitive hearing
my vision even though it was night, was extraordinary. I
could feel kind of an electric charge as I walked
on the earth and connected the paths of my feet
with the earth. It felt like every hair on my

(25:59):
body was in an I had a three hundred and
sixty degree three dimensional map of what was around me
because all my senses just worked that way was extraordinary.
I feel vulnerable telling these stories. I really really do.
I get very used to being inside of my own

(26:20):
head about it. But and I know that these things
happened to me, but I feel a little vulnerable. So I,
as I was inside of this experience, was fully embodied experience.
The buzzing began to return. I kind of began to
hear it, and I realized that I could go, I
could experience whatever I wanted to just by focusing on

(26:41):
the sound. So I had that understanding. But the next
thing that happened was that I felt, you know, I
left that scene. I felt like myself again, sort of
in a serial version of myself, and I felt like
I was made up of all these tiny little champagne bubbles,
all these little maybe molecules of me, and all these

(27:06):
things happened simultaneously, so it's hard to talk about in
a linear sort of aspect. But the next thing, you know,
I had, that sensation of of myself is all these
little particles of me, and I found myself in this
velvety black void, although it wasn't avoid because it was
full of this which intelligence, you know, this this velvety black,

(27:30):
rich space that I was in, and the little particles
of me, the little bubbles of me, began to spread
out and get farther and farther away from each other.
And that made me afraid. I felt like I was dissolving.
I was trying to keep track of all of those
parts of me, because it felt like my consciousness was
in all those parts as well. It felt like was

(27:51):
sort of dissolving and expanding, and it was. It was
a scary feeling. And then in front of me there
was an entity that physicals that I could discern that
I understood that there was this feminine entity in front
of me, and she was beckoning me towards this sort
of gateway, this kind of triangular shape that was vacuuming

(28:13):
me into it, that was pulling me in and drawing
me into this gateway, and she was beckoning me to
go through. And as I was getting closer to it,
the little particles of me we were already through it.
And that made me really scared. And I had a
sensation that I had a thought, actually, I had a
very clear thought that on the other side of that

(28:35):
gateway is where we go when we die. And I
just knew that with certainty, and that terrified me. It
terrified me that part of me was already through And
so I used all of my strength and will and
pulled myself back away from it. And the next thing
I knew, I was back in my body, back in bed,

(28:56):
and I sat up in bed, and I gassed. My
heart was pounding, I was full of adrenaline. It was
such a real, undeniably real experience. And so I had
this and my body was having this big bear reaction
and all this adrenaline and trying to figure out what
had just happened. And then for no good reason, I

(29:19):
immediately just laid back down put my head on the pillow.
And the second that I did, I was in a dream.
And in the dream I was seeing I was in
I was in my childhood valley, and I was looking
at the horizon. It was a snowy field. And between
the snowy field and the tree line, right at that

(29:40):
line of the horizon, these four massive beings rose up.
When they were taller than the ridgeline. They were huge,
and they were they were made of that golden buzzing
electric light and sound. But in this it was silent
in the dream. And when they rose up, there four
of them, and they were one mass. So it was

(30:04):
four heads and four steps of shoulders. But the rest
was just one mass and they said we are here
for you when you're ready. And so that experienced the intensity,
the undeniable reality of it, how overwhelming it was, how
thrilling it was in a lot of ways it was.
It was very magical and exciting and confusing.

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And after that experience, I decided that I needed to
drastically change my life, which is which is one of
the things that all of my liken of experience that
have done for me over and over again have brought
me to a point. Through these specific experiences with other

(32:11):
beings and other entities where I've completely reordered my life.
And that happened at this moment in my life, and
I gave away everything that I owned. I rented out
my house in New Mexico because I couldn't sell it
fast enough. If I could have sold that, I just
would have sold it. I rented out my house and
I got a yurt and I moved to two hundred

(32:32):
empty acres and for the next year and a half
or so, I lived in the RT. I had one
middle solar panel to give me a lamp and charge
my phone and things like that, but I didn't have
any electricity beyond that. I didn't have a refrigerator. I
had a wood stove that I cooked all my meals on,

(32:53):
no running water. And it was very again, this return
to nature and the natural world. And during that time
I had a lot of experiences. I saw a lot
of UFOs. I had a lot of intense dreams. I
had a lot of UFO dreams, which are their own
unique quality and experience. Many dreams of you know, standing

(33:19):
outside looking up at the stars, and then all of
a sudden, all of the stars start to move and
they're just swarms of lights. That is a dream that
I've had for my entire life, and then also saw
you know, stockcraft in the sky there. On a regular basis,
I had to go outside at night if I needed
to use the restroom. And in the middle of winter,

(33:42):
in the middle of night, in the middle of nowhere
in Colorado, the sky is full of stars and you
see stuff, and I saw a lot of I saw
a lot of things there. So after I left the yacht,
I went through a pretty tough time. I started drinking again.

(34:03):
I was really struggling with that. I won't go into
the whole story of that, but I'm bringing it up
because an important event happened during that time, which is
that the next time that I saw the beings, the
next time that I saw the who I call before
who I want, that massive being was in that space.
It was a very dark time. I was in a

(34:24):
really rough relationship, really struggling, and one night I was
just in a blackout drunk and I fell. And when
I fell, I broke my ankle pretty badly and I
sprained my other foot pretty badly. It was a terrible experience.
But as I was falling, that's the only memory that

(34:49):
I have of that night is that as I was falling,
this very clear experience of those four beings in the
room with me, and they told me it was this
or something worse. And I have no doubt in my
mind that I was stopped literally in my tracks because

(35:10):
my life was getting so out of control and I
was doing so much damage to myself, and I believe
that they that they saved me from from my life
getting worse. And worse than that, they also saved me
from some pretty heavy karma that would have come my
way if I continued down that path. So it was
incredibly painful. It was dramatic and drastic, but that was

(35:35):
the last day I had a drink and I am
five and a half years So they really, you know,
I really feel like they intervened, and I don't want
to I want to be careful with that because during
that time I also had really a lot of really
dark experiences and it wasn't with them specifically. But not
all beings that we don't see are good. People have

(35:58):
had a really horrendous experience those with entities, and I
don't believe that that we can. I think they're like
the human race. Some are good, some are wonderful, Some are,
you know, less conscious. Some are suffering and wounded, Some
have agendas that are not for our highest good. And

(36:21):
so even though I've had I've had a mix of
experiences with them, this one was I felt done with
a lot of love and concern, but I still broke
my ankle and I still went through a really, really
difficult times following that. So but I my experience in
that moment in my life was that it was a
positive thing for me, and I felt like they were

(36:43):
looking out for me. And I'll also say at this moment,
I until later in my life, I didn't necessarily associate
them with the word aliens or I don't I still
don't know what they are. I still don't know who
they are. It's all mixed together, these experiences, and I'm

(37:05):
still trying to make sense of at all. You know,
after that experience, after breaking my ankle, after my life
just really stopped and had to be reordered, I did
a lot of healing, I did a lot of therapy.
I went I never told my therapist about these experiences.
One therapist I had told early on just hinted at
it gave me an impression that that was not okay

(37:27):
to talk about. And so the healing that I did
was around relationship and around trauma and addiction and things
like that. And also during that time I went through
a lot of deconditioning or reconditioning about around the New
Age movement, because there was a lot of us that
was very very helpful for me, and then there was

(37:48):
a lot of us that was very damaging for me,
sort of the toxic positivity, the spiritual bypassing the just
you know that you can, you know, the sort of
easy answer of you can manifest anything, and if you're
not happy, it's kind of your fault, or if bad
things happen to you, it's because your vibration isn't high enough.
Like it's very difficult to pick apart the truth in

(38:12):
those things and the things that are damaging. And I
spend a lot of time doing that during that time
in my life, Like what is my actual experience? Is
what is real and true for me? And what feels
like I'm skipping steps or I'm just trying to bail
on the difficult parts of the experience of life or whatever.

(38:32):
It is a lot of that brings, you know, there
during I guess during that time, I kind of stopped
having experiences, and I stopped having dreams. Even I didn't
even have any profound dreams, which is a very strange
thing for me in my life. I'd always had very vivid,
profound dreams that would help me with things, or teach

(38:53):
me things, or entertain me even just something, you know,
but my all of my experience isn't even my dreams
really faded away for about two years, two and a
half years, and then again at the end of twenty nineteen,
they all came at all, came back with a vengeance.
And that's when I decided to get the regression. That's

(39:15):
when I began to come to terms with putting these
experiences in some kind of narrative that would be useful
for me in my life. And I was told to
write this book. I really really didn't want to, because
what they wanted me to do was write about not
just this stuff that I'm talking about, but also all
the really you know, the trauma, the drama that was

(39:39):
in my life, the addiction, and getting clarity around all
of that, around what was what, learning to recognize what
state of being I was in, and sort of also
just confessing this these really bizarre things that had happened
to me my whole life, and I really related want

(40:00):
to do it. So again, this is late twenty nineteen,
so twenty twenty happened. The pandemic, as we all know,
was a very confusing time, really hard to make sense
of anything. But my experiences continued during that time, and
towards the end of twenty twenty, I moved into a
new place, and the minute that I moved in, I

(40:22):
began to have this overwhelming kind of paralyzing spear. Although
there was no good reason for it. My apartment's great,
I live in a nice neighborhood, My life is fine.
You know. I couldn't understand the spear that I was having,
But I just began to feel this immense pressure and
this immense sensation that I was supposed to be doing

(40:43):
something with my life that I wasn't. I had a
feeling that I was being watched. I was having I
could not sleep, and when I did sleep, I would
have nightmares. I started having the paralysis again on a
regular basis, and and then I had three I have

(41:03):
a heart tame time about it that I had three
back to back experiences with whitebirds that shifted everything so
radically and kind of shook me that I began to
write a book and I just said, here we go.
I'm just going to say it all. I'm just going
to do it. I don't know what else you're supposed
to do. I can't make this pressure go away. And

(41:24):
so writing the book releads a lot of a lot
of that for me, because I was able to make
sense of my life and in some ways and put
it into a narrative. And around that time as well,
I discovered euthology, which I had met I didn't even
know was a thing. I knew nothing about the history
of euthology, that people had experiences that were similar to mine,

(41:47):
that they'd had dreams like mine, that my experience was
similar to anyone else's. I had no idea that I
start to engage with that world, and it's terrifying for me.
I buy Whitley Striever's book Communion, and I just put
it on my altar. I just like put it there
and I would look at it and I couldn't crack

(42:08):
it because I was still afraid of what was inside
of it. But eventually, as I'm writing, and as I
got helped by the way I joined a group of
people that had had similar experiences and I could talk
to them. And so I started sending these support groups
for this and that really helped me, and I sort
of gained my courage and began engaging with this stuff,

(42:31):
and it changed everything in my life. I had had
a very successful career for fifteen years that I quit.
I just could no longer do it. I knew my
life was taking me in a different direction. I got
certified to facilitate past life and between life regressions, hypnotic regressions.

(42:52):
I started really pouring my life into these other fields,
and I started to trust my own interior experience. All
these experiences that I had pushed away as crazy or
too weird or didn't know what to make sense of,
I started giving them a validity in my life. That

(43:13):
is truly when everything changed for me, when I started
to be able to hold paradox and to hold a
broader understanding of you know, I don't know. I doubt
that I will ever have the answers to any of this.
It remains a mystery. But I can hold it now
and I can see it, and I trust that what
happened to me happened to me. And I guess I'll

(43:35):
wrap it up. I have so many experiences in my life,
but the other, you know, one of the three main experiences,
the three most profound experiences in my life. I'll share
the last one because it happened a little over a
year ago and it was similar to the time when
the spears and things were showing up, because it set

(43:57):
me on a path of once again completely changing my
life life. So one thing that I did, I started
to work with my guys. I started to develop a
spiritual practice. I started to meditate a lot more and
sort of strengthen my container so that I could hold
these experiences and they wouldn't knock me off my square
every time that happened. So I was doing all of that,

(44:18):
I was meditating a lot, and I was setting protection
around me so that I could, you know, if I
had experiences, I could go into them less fearful. And
it was working and it was and that was great.
It was a relief. I could sleep. I wasn't having
a many nightmare And one morning I was meditating, laying

(44:41):
in bed, and I began to feel the shifting vibration,
buzzing light, you know that sensation that I'm so familiar
with and that has become for me an indicator that
they would like to communicate. And because I've been doing
all this work and meditating and developing trust in my

(45:03):
experience and in my guides and things, I agreed. I
said I was meditating, and I got the buzzy and
I said, okay, I agree to whatever experience this is
going to be. And I as soon as I did that, I,
you know, had the sensation of listing. And for the
first time, I think that first time ever in any

(45:23):
of my experiences, I could see and so I looked
down my body. I had been laying on my back.
I looked down my body, and it looked like the
covers of you know, my blankets were tented over me
as if I was physically resitating. I don't know if
that If I was, I don't know, but that's what
it looked like and that's what it felt like. And
that was my experience. I thought to myself, Wow, that's

(45:45):
never happened before. And then the next thing was that
I did leave my body. I shot up out of
my body. I had a very clear visual of being
right next to the ceiling. I could see the little
edge of paint, you know, where the wall met the ceiling.
I could see the texture on the ceiling, and then
went through the ceiling. I could see my roof below me,

(46:10):
my neighborhood, the city, you know, the landscape. I went
higher and higher and higher, and I went really really
fast up into that It felt like I went into
the cosmos, into space. I could see little stars in
the distance, and I stopped suddenly, and then I believed
that it was the four hu are one that collective

(46:31):
of being handed me down something that it's hard to explain.
That it was a It was sort of a line
of buzzing light and electricity, and they gave it to me,
and I didn't know what it was for, but I
understood that it was for me, and I took it.
And then the next in the next moment, I was

(46:52):
back in bed, but I was on my side. You know,
when I was meditating, I was flat on my back.
But when I was back in bed now, I was
kind of over on my side and the blankets were
halfway across my face, and I didn't understand that. I
thought that was weird, and I felt very heavy in
my body and very difficult to set up. It was

(47:14):
really hard to open my eyes, and I was sort
of slowly blinking my eyes open, and as I did that,
I sat up and blinked my eyes open, and everything
in the room was like a misty gray, and I
didn't understand what was happening. I flicked the light next
to my bed to try to turn on the light,
and the light didn't work, and I remember thinking, that's

(47:35):
really weird. The power must be out. And then sort
of in an instant, the wall in front of me
that was also that misty gray that had depth to it,
and out of that depth came for being. I had
the sensation that they were the four who are one,
but they weren't in one mass. They just came into

(47:55):
the room and they were next to my bed, and
I looked around and I realized that it was my bedroom,
but there was this matrix everywhere. It was this grid,
and it was hexagonal shapes. That was a honeycomb matrix
of hexagons, and I could see inside of the hexagons

(48:17):
that there were little bits of information in there, and
the being, you know, very This all happened quickly and
lots of information coming in all at once, and they
told me they said, this is what your reality, meaning
this reality that we all exist in, that humanity exists
in on this planet. They said, this is what reality

(48:38):
hangs on. That this is behind the scenes of reality.
And I was looking around and if I looked to
the left, I could see all of the hexagons and
it was really clear, and it went it went way
back into space and up and down and left and
right and forward and back. It was multi three dimensional,
multi dimensional. And then if I turned to look somewhere

(48:59):
else that face the way, and then wherever I looked,
then I could see the matrix over where I was
looking now. And they said, you need to learn to
use the operating system of your reality. They said, where
you place your attention and the quality of your attention
can affect this reality. And I said, am I not

(49:21):
in my body? And I got this sensation that they
were very disappointed in me, that I didn't appreciate how
much effort it took for this visitation to happen. And
I felt like I should be asking better questions. But
I said, I need to get back in my body now.
And then in the next instant, I sat up in bed.

(49:42):
Everything was back to normal. I turned the lights on,
the lights worked and it was gone, and that experience
shook me to my core. It was I had to
get up and go to work, you know, I had
to go on about my day. People did not understand
when I told them about it was incredibly real, just
like all these other experiences I had were real. So

(50:04):
that since then, what I've learned, I believe is that
the light that they gave me, the line of light
and vibration and sound, is to help me travel more easily,
and to help me communicate with them more easily, and
to help me navigate these other spaces that I keep

(50:25):
finding myself in any way, whether I want it or not,
and it's to help that make that easier. And it
seems to be working. I've been working with it and
trying to learn to use it. I think that that
kind of wraps it up next. I feel. So it's
still so hard to talk about all of this. I
will say that I will say a couple more things.

(50:46):
One of them is that through this final process, or
the last year or whatever of me really making sense,
trying to make sense of these things that happened in
my life, I have discovered this incredible to our planet,
to the planet Earth, to humanity, to what we're facing.

(51:09):
I have this, you know, that deep sense of mission
that I've always had only intensified, this sense of the
Earth as a consciousness herself, and that this new sort
of life energy is moving through me. And it's very
much related to nature and to these long cycles that

(51:30):
humanity has had where we keep falling, you know, we
keep having we keep kind of rising up and falling,
and that we're facing that right now. I've come to
a moment in my life where my dedication and devotion
is to our planet and to humanity. I don't want
to I'm not anti humanity. I know that we do

(51:51):
a lot of things that are not in alignment with
our highest potential and with what be here on this planet.
That I have a lot of faith enough, and I'm
in devotion and dedication to all of that in fact,
and I'm ready to once again return to your life
very connected to nature.

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Speaker 1 (53:29):
Part of my mission is to talk about this stuff
because I think that culturally, the interior of our lives
is not respective. It's not seen as something to pay
attention to. We're only supposed to pay attention to this
external world where we're sort of running towards the edge

(53:50):
of this cliff as fast as we can. And I
think that I want to help people remember how rich
and beautiful and important and their own interior landscapes are.
That's all I think I did it. I think I
said everything nixt thank you for listening and holding that space.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
First of all, congratulations on being five and a half
years sober.

Speaker 1 (54:13):
Thank you, Thank you so much. Yeah, it's a big
deal for me.

Speaker 3 (54:17):
It is a big deal, you know, it's no easy feat.
And also, congratulations on finishing your book.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
Thank you so much. Thank you. That was Also it's
been like a year and a half and it was
I had no idea how hard it was to write
a book, but the beings told me that. They told
me this very clearly. They said, the book will span
the gap between these two major blocks of your life.
And that's exactly what it's done. And so it's been

(54:46):
a true gift to be able to sort of write
myself into the story of my life. It's been really amazing.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Have you called a website? But your book's available now?
Is it?

Speaker 1 (54:57):
It's not. It should be soon. It's been going through
the last editing process. But I do have the book
is called Earth a Love Story, and I do have
that website, Earth a Love Story. But at the moment,
it takes you to my just my personal website the

(55:18):
other work that I do with the regressions and things
like that. But soon, in the next few months it
will I'm hoping to get it published and then it'll
be available and if you go to my website you'll
be able to find it. But right now it's still
it's still on a Google docing in on my computer
and still not out in the world yet, but it's
getting there.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Okay, So your website is my.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
Website is There's a couple of ways you can get
to it. One is the name of my business, which
is Honeyheart, so it's Honeyheart dot org. And then you
can also find the same website at earth alovestory dot com.

Speaker 3 (55:52):
Okay, we'll do is. I'll put the link for listeners
down down below in the show description. Some of the
beings that you've even came to, how many different types
over the years, would you have said, from were you
four or five when it all began?

Speaker 1 (56:05):
You know, the one at the age of four or
five was clearly infectuoid, and people who have asked me
if it was a mantis being because I know that
some people have experienced with mantis, and I don't know
the answer to that. I suspect that it's it's not unlikely,
but there, you know, he was certainly an inspectuoid being.

(56:26):
The four who are one have shown up to me
as I guess what I would call light beings. I
don't know what's behind the light necessarily, I'm not certain.
But they were also there during my regression where I
went to another planet. I call it another planet. It
seemed like another planet. Then I also the beings that

(56:48):
came into my bedroom I believe were the same four beings,
but they they were shapes. They were it was as
if the densest thing in the in the bedroom, like
the bed and walls were the darkest gray, and they
were kind of the most solid, and when the beings
came in, they were you know, head arms towards the legs,

(57:10):
I think, and that they were that same dense gray
myths and so they were definitely beings there, and there
were shapes, but I feel like I have very rarely
been able to see what's behind how they present themselves.
And I don't know why that is. But I'm grateful
a little bit because the ontological shock of these experiences

(57:32):
on their own are enough, and I don't know if
I could handle I guess the short answer to that
question is, I'm not positive. My sensation is that I
would have between two and four different types of beings
that I that I've encountered.

Speaker 3 (57:48):
It does seem to be the certainly had their hand
in your own personal development, you know, especially you've been
strutting over trauma an addiction for all these years.

Speaker 5 (57:56):
You know.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
That's one thing that is a really important part of
my story is that through these experiences I have grown.
They have fueled my own personal evolutions. And that is
not to say that it hasn't been traumatic, because it has.
But I've made massive major changes in my life directly

(58:18):
related to these experiences. And I think skepticism is a
good idea. I think resistance, my resistance that I felt
and the difficulty that I've had accepting these things that
have happened, is good because whatever I'm moving towards, I
want to arrive at in my sovereignty and conscious and clear.

(58:41):
Because these are relationships like any other relationships. You know,
you wouldn't just leave your door open and whoever wants
to come be in your house and sit in your table,
gets to come do that. And I think of these
relationships in the same way that they need to be
developed with consent on both sides, with everybody having sovereignty. Otherwise,

(59:03):
these are things that are just happening to me, and
I'm a victim of them, and so that's a really
important part of this for me, and it has the
experiences have strengthened me and my spiritual practice and my
greater understanding and my own autonomy. Absolutely, what advice.

Speaker 3 (59:20):
Would you give anyone else out there that are kind
of struggling with these with these types of experiences.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
For me, when it really started to become easier for
me is when I found community, when I found other
people who were having experiences and didn't just want to
think of them in a way that was almost too easy,
you know, I didn't. It wasn't helpful for me to

(59:46):
talk to people who said, Yeah, these these beings are
going to save the earth, They're going to they're coming
here to rescue us. And it also wasn't helpful for
me to have the lens of oh, they're only dark
and evil, like I needed to find a community where
I could that could hold that complexity with me and
understand that it deserves a broader lens, and that I

(01:00:08):
needed to find people that could hold that liminal space
with me, that could understand paradox, that could think about
all of this really, really deeply. Finding that community was
tremendously helpful. And then, you know, working with a helper
who could help me with my spiritual practice and teach
me about working with my guides and setting up protection

(01:00:32):
and all of those things that you know, because of
all of this, I had looked at every kind of
spirituality throughout my life. I've been seeking and looking through
for answers my entire life. But until I found a
framework and a structure and started really dedicating myself to that,
to those practices, it wasn't helpful. It was just platitudes,

(01:00:54):
you know. So I would say, find a community, find
a helper, take it seriously. And only after I was
able to kind of face the difficulty of it, am
I able to find some joy and excitement and kind
of the magical side of it. But it's slow going
and it takes a lot of effort and clarity to

(01:01:15):
not take the easy way out of these questions about
who are they, why are they here? So from my experience,
that's what was helpful.

Speaker 3 (01:01:23):
Good stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Okay, great, I love your show, and I'm very grateful
to you, and I hope that you I hope that
you're getting a really good energy exchange with this work
because you're doing You're doing a whole lot, and so
I hope it comes back to you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:37):
You know, when I when I very first started a show,
I was worried that I had set up like like
free episodes, and I was worried what would happen if
if people wouldn't contact me, would I have to search
for people? But that never happened. You know, by the
time I've done my second episode, I got a ton
of emails and it just never stops. And amongst all
those emails, I get people from all over the world

(01:01:58):
thank me for it. And that's enough for me. It
makes me happy to read these messages and stuff every day.
It's nice, you know, people going out of their way.
They don't necessarily have to be people which have had experiences.
I've had emails from scientists who have never really looked
at the subjects in any particular way other than we've
kind of you know, kind of tongue in cheek and

(01:02:19):
they've even said, you know, these accounts have opened me
up to it and it's something now I'm going to explore,
which is great. Yeah, And I get emails for all
walks of life from all different professions and you name it.
Even my guests, they are varied and we don't always
say what their job is. Sometimes they're quite high profile.

Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Oh, it's wonderful.

Speaker 5 (01:02:38):
I have I drive a lot because my family lives
about seven and a half hours away from me, and
so when I get in the truck to drive, it's
your podcast that I pull up and listen to that
on the whole way. So it's been very helpful for
me to be able to share my experiences too. So
thank you so much, and feel free to reach out anytime.

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
I will indeed. Okay, then I really appreciate you coming
on today, Robin and sharing your experiences with us today,
and we wish you well and continuing on on your journey.

Speaker 1 (01:03:09):
Thank you so much, Nick, Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
Take care. That is all for this week. Keep updated
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A big thank you to Robin for sharing tonight, and
thank you all for listening. I will be back next week.
Till then, stay safe and keep watching the skies. Goodbye,