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The first guest we have for you tonight is Angelo from Spain. Angelo received a message from a recently passed loved one, and that message prevented another tragedy that was about to happen. Then we make our way to the Outback of Australia to talk to Johanna, about the paranormal experiences she has had over the years.
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The first guest we have for you tonight is Angelo from Spain. Angelo received a message from a recently passed loved one, and that message prevented another tragedy that was about to happen. Then we make our way to the Outback of Australia to talk to Johanna, about the paranormal experiences she has had over the years.
More information on this episode on the podcast website:
https://ufochroniclespodcast.com/ep-195-to-save-a-life-the-outback/
Want to share your encounter on the show?
Email: UFOChronicles@gmail.com
Or Fill out Guest Form:
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Podcast Merchandise:
https://www.teepublic.com/user/ufo-chronicles-podcast
Help Support UFO CHRONICLES by becoming a Patron:
https://patreon.com/UFOChroniclespodcast
X:
https://twitter.com/UFOchronpodcast
Thank you for listening!
Like share and subscribe it really helps me when people share the show on social media, it means we can reach more people and more witnesses and without your amazing support, it wouldn't be possible.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You'll be away five seventeen.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
Do you want to report a UFO hanging in?
Speaker 3 (00:05):
We don't want.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
To report every thirty one.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Do you wish to report a.
Speaker 4 (00:09):
UFO over hey, we want to one of those.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Areas thirty one. Do you wish to find a report
of any kind of it?
Speaker 4 (00:18):
I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds.
Speaker 5 (00:20):
Time areas thirty one me neither there were self.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
If it was anybody a h above us to pass us,
Like thirty seconds ago, we.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Were sending one top of golf negative, okay, OFFI the UFO.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeah it's murder two nine o'clock.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yes, I'll just passed over. I go.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I don't know what it was, but it's from at
least to three thousand feet above us.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
See, I passed out over the top of US.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Ninety one one.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
You just called both to be be four rest they're after.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Staying the airplanes.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Here to God on an unidentified object every liberty four
call or calm on an unidentified flying object.
Speaker 5 (01:15):
Welcome to UFO Chronicles, a place where people share their
experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had an encounter,
I would like to be on the show. You can
email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com. Hello everyone,
(01:49):
and welcome to the show. Wherever in the world you
are listening from. How are you doing? I'm Nick Canter
and this is the UFO Chronicles podcast first hand encounters
of this unexplained. The first guest we have for you
tonight is Angelo from Spain. Angelo received a message from
a recently past loved one that prevented another tragedy that
(02:11):
was about to happen. Then we make our way to
the outback of Australia to talk to Johanna about her
paranormal experiences she has had over the years. Angelo up next.
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on with the show, all Angelo, and welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Oh hello, Nick, thank you for having me.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
You're more than welcoming. It's great to have you come
on this evening call in from Spain.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yes, sir, it's getting hot already over here.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
It's all overcast and windy over here. Now, Angelo, you
have a paranormal experience to share with us. Would you
like to start at the very beginning?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Please?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yes, yes, sir, we have to go back. This was
around the year two thousand and one approximately, and it
is something that is very It was a very, very personal,
emotional story, and it is only now that I'm starting
(03:52):
to talk about it in public to honor the person
that was sort of the protagonist of the story. But
as I said, it's very emotional, and I've been talking
about it only in private, and it's only recently that
(04:15):
I've begun sharing the story in more public forums like
this one, like your excellent podcast. And it all started
with a friend of mine, my best friend, who happened
also to be the singer of my band. I was
(04:37):
playing drums in a gothic rock band and the singer
was my best friend. She had a girlfriend at the time,
and it was they were having a sort of an
open relationship, and I had really good vibes with his
(05:00):
go for him too. Her name was Sheila, and one
day she came home and well, things just got started.
We started a sort of romantic relationship and in this
(05:20):
strange love triangle. At first it was really intense. It
was really good because we were good friends, good friends,
the three of us. But you know, after all, we
were pretty young, and to pull something like to put
(05:41):
that kind of relationship, to pull it off, you really have,
you really need to have a level of emotional psychological
maturity that we obviously didn't have. Also, despite being within
the gothic rock scene that was supposed to be really
(06:02):
open minded and liberal, people started talking and messing around
and getting and middling.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
And so.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Because of both our emotional immaturity, because of our youth
we were in the early in our early twenties, and
because of the people talking and meddling and giving us
a hard time, we started to have troubles amongst ourselves.
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And so one day, just to make a long story short,
one day she told me that that was it, that
we better just remain friends, and that was about it.
So anyway, we kept on as we could, and one
(06:57):
day I received a car from another friend of mine,
and he told me that Sheila, this girl had had
an accident, has been had been in an accident, and
that's what they told me. They told me nothing more.
(07:19):
And I already had a really, really bad feeling. But
I picked up my best friend, the singer of my band,
and we went to the We drove to the hospital,
and when we got to the hospital, we found out
that Sheila had just died. She died in that as
(07:42):
a result of that car accident. It was a car accident,
so obviously we were devastated, and it just so happened
that during that period of time, I was reading a book,
if I recall correctly, it was a book by sojo
(08:05):
al Room post Shape, which which is sort of famous,
a famous author about Tibetan Buddhism. And I think the
book was called The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying.
I think that was the although it was a Spanish translation,
so the title was different, but I think that was
(08:26):
the book. So in that book there were meditations or
sort of rituals to help people who had recently died,
and so to help myself and to help this girl,
to help Sheila I thought to myself, why not try
one of these meditations, one of these rituals to try
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and help her and try to heal myself too the
pain that I was feeling so so one evening at
my in my bedroom and I was started to I
was in my bedroom and I started to perform one
of these meditations, and I literally invited her sort of
(09:10):
spontaneously invoking her, so to speak, inviting her to participate,
and even even to use my physical body to participate
in the meditation. And so after a few minutes, the
air in the room started to feel really dense, almost
(09:35):
in a way watery. The atmosphere was like watery. It
was like it felt as if I was underwater in
a weird way. And I also started to get a
strange feeling of anxiety, negativity. It was a bad feeling.
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It was a really bad feeling. But I tried to
go on with the meditation and try to forget about
those negative feelings. I tried. I just tried to go
on with the meditation and with the lad you know,
the Tibetan rituals usually are very wide, light and colliery
and stuff. But I couldn't shed that feeling of something
(10:24):
being really really wrong. I kept going on, and after
a few minutes, I had the absolute certainty don't ask
me how, but I knew somebody else was in the
room with me. I was definitely not alone in the room,
and I was physically alone, but there was definitely somebody
(10:50):
else in the room with me. And it got even
more interesting. I started to behave like an automaton. I
started to behave like a robot, as if somebody else
were pulling the strings moving me. And in this disposition,
(11:15):
I felt the absolute urge to call my best friend
on the phone, the singer of my band, to call
him on the phone.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
So I did.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I called him. I called him on the phone. He answered,
and with a very trembling voice, words started to pop
up in my mouth, and I started talking, not really
conscious of what I was saying. I was not speaking
(11:51):
deliberately on my behalf. I was somebody else. I was
speaking on somebody else's behalf. And in this awfully trembling voice,
I said to my friend something along these lines. I
(12:14):
said something like f which is the name, you know?
Then I said my friend's name, his name. I said,
Sheila is here and she wants you to know that
she holds no grudges. She wants you to know that
(12:36):
she forgives you, and she wants you to know that
she loves you. My friend heard those words and he
said he quietly said, oh, well, thank you both, thank
you for this call. And so we hung up. After
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we hung up, all those feelings, all those sensations and
all these behaving like an automaton, the atmosphere of density,
all that just puff it went away, and suddenly all
was normal again. Oh, everything was feeling normal again. So
(13:23):
I thought, Wow, that was wild. But everything felt normal again.
So I kind of relaxed and just went to sleep.
And we're getting to the end of the story now.
So the next day, my best friend and I meet
in person. And this is what's most emotional for me
(13:48):
and most that's what makes this story even more I
don't know how to put it all inspiring.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
He tells me, dude, do you know what I was
doing when you called me to say those words? I
said no, And he tells me, do you really don't
know what I was about to do right at the
(14:17):
moment when you called me to tell me those things?
And I said no, No, how am I supposed to know,
and he tells me, dude, I was just about to
commit suicide. He was about to hang himself in his room.
(14:38):
And that's the end of the story. Take it or
leave it. That's what happened.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
That's absolutely amazing. You know, you made a connection with Sheila.
She came through and used you as a conduit. So
then you then spoke to your friend and saved his life. Yeah,
truly remarkable.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
I never had in ever since, I never had anything
any experience remotely similar, not nothing even close to that.
So that's what happened.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
That's absolutely amazing. You never had anything like that. Again, No,
it certainly makes you one, that doesn't it. I mean,
what what made you pick up the Tibetan book.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
It was a matter of.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
I was.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I've been always interested in in esotericism and mystics, mystical stuff.
But it just so happened that somebody, some other friend
had lent me the book. It just so happened that
that I was reading it at that time. It was
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a coincidence at the moment.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Well we can say coincidence, but so it's all connected,
you know, it's it was everyone was at the right time. Yes, Yes,
if you hadn't have been meditating after reading the book,
then you know, you wouldn't have had this experience, and
you wouldn't have called your friend, and then you know
obviously what would happen.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Yeah, that is amazing, Angelo, thank you for sharing that
with us.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Oh, thank you. I'm most grateful to you. And I
do this as a as a loving memory to Shila
because I think she did that somehow, and I think
it's high time that I pay honor to her to
her memory.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Well, you couldn't have done it any better. Wonderful, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Thank you, Nick.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
I haven't heard an account of that in a long
long time.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
That is perfect. And thank you so much again for
this opportunity.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Yeah, Angelo, I really appreciate you coming on sharing that
for our listeners.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Oh, thank you. You're very kind.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Great talking you and thank you. Yeah, thank you so
much for coming in with that. Definitely, that was definitely
an interesting one. That's certainly one that's going to stand out.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
M thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Thank you very kind and have a wonderful evening, sir.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Yeah, you enjoyed your rest of evening, and I'll talk
to you soon. Angel.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Okay, Okay, okay, thank you, thank you, thank care bye.
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Speaker 1 (18:22):
Thank you very much, Nick, it's nice to be here.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
You were more than welcome calling from Queensland, Australia. Yes,
now you have some experiences to share with us. Would
you like to start at the very beginning?
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Please?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
I will. I will so. In a nutshell, I've lived
all over Australia, mostly in the deserts, in the outback
as we call it, in the bush in the country,
and it started when I was about seven years old.
I was convinced that I could fly. So way back
when I was seven, I was living in this tiny,
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tiny country town way off in the western Australian wheat belt,
and I went through this phase of not knowing what
was real and what wasn't because as far as I
was concerned, I would come home from school and i'd fly.
I'd just walk around the house, I'd take two steps
and push. I'd be off flying and i'd go above
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the tree line. I'd go over the tops of the
houses in the town. And it didn't seem to matter
to me whether or not it was day or nighttime.
It wasn't as though I fell asleep and I was flying.
It was just something that I thought everybody did. And
one time, I was flying again in my mind, and
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I was convinced that I went to Ireland. I'd never
heard of Ireland. I was seven years old. I don't
know what made me think it was Island. But there
were green fields, low profilestone fences, fluffy sheep cattle, and
I just was convinced I had been to Ireland. And
I told my parents, and they looked at each other,
and they looked at me, and nobody said a word.
(20:05):
I didn't watch TV back then, I never listened to
the radio. There was obviously no internet because this was
way back in the seventies. I didn't read magazines. I
didn't know anybody from Ireland, so I had no exposure
to anything Irish. But I was just convinced I've been
to Ireland anyway. So I started to become a little
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bit more aware that not every child could fly, and
I thought, oh, well, that's kind of weird. You know.
I'd go off, flying around in the sky and I
wouldn't ever see anybody. It felt really euphoric, It felt
very freeing, and I stopped trying to explain it to
my parents, because you know, when you're seven years old,
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you don't know what to think, and I just didn't
bother trying to rationalize it. There was one other time
I saw a person in the air in the sky
when I was flying, and I was over kind of
like these very old warehouses. I don't know what country
I was in, what city it was, but it was
a big city and there were these dilapidated old warehouses.
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And this other person was about fifty meters away and
looked to be a very tall, long, thin man with
long trousers. And I thought, Wow, that man's really clever
because he's wearing long pants and your pants don't fly up,
you know when you're flying. That's that's a smart guy
right there. And we kind of acknowledged each other in
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the sky, and we sort of slowly drifted apart and
flew away. And then I started to slowly realize over
it must have been over about a year that oh,
perhaps this flying business happens when I go to sleep,
and I would have these really beautiful dreams and then
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push i'd be off again, flying over parks and houses
and highways and cities and whatever. Now, when I was
about eight, all of that stopped. My little sister was born,
and you know, things just got hectic, and it all
faded away until I was about late thirties and I
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dreamt that I was flying above some people in a
park and it was a very sunny day. It was
just lovely, and there were very tall skyscrapers, and I
was going in between the skyscrapers and woo around in
the sky. And I remember smelling the air in my dream,
but it felt as though I was really there. It
was very weird, and there was a very sweet, almost
(22:40):
like a sickly sweet smell in the air, but there
was no breeze, and I couldn't feel the air against
my skin or ruffling my hair. It's like I was
just gliding away. And then the sky, the sunny sky,
became a little bit darker and then darker, and I'm
just floating away and then I sort of kicked my
heels when and woloshed off and the sky became almost
(23:04):
instantly black. And I'm there and I'm going around through
the sky and I'm looking at all these twinkly things,
and I realized, oh the stars, Oh wow, look at that.
And I prepelled myself up a little bit further and
was looking around and I felt completely safe, absolutely at
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ease and just marveling at how beautiful the sky was
in space, and I was totally at peace, and it
felt like I was in a womb or something. Anyway,
as I'm casually looking around, I turned around over my
shoulder and I saw the earth, and the earth was
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quite bright, and instantly I saw this like a thick,
shiny silver cord coming out of my belly button, and
I just went bang. I was filled with shock and horror,
and instantly I woke up because I was terrified of
just dangling there in the sky. And oh after that,
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I never flew again. I woke up in my bed
in a cold sweat, just absolutely petrified. And as much
as the whole flying thing was lovely, I'm a little
bit relieved that I don't do that anymore, because that
feeling of that loss of control was really overwhelming. Anyway,
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So that was the end of my flying escapades. But
back again in the seventies, when I was seven and
I'm doing all this flying around, I used to see
these shadowy figures, and living in Australia, one of them,
of course, was a kangaroo. And this kangaroo would come
at night, probably a meter and a half tall. I
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wouldn't see it appear, but I could feel it, and
it would just sit on the end of my bed
and I'd lay in my bed staring at it, and
I couldn't move my arms on my legs, and I'd
just be terrified. And I can't remember how the kangaroo
ever went away, or how I managed to get out
(25:18):
of that situation. I think I would just fall back
to sleep. I really don't know. But I couldn't call
out to my parents, I couldn't call for help. I
was just totally frozen. And for the cricket fans, I
used to also imagine that Tony greg the South African cricketer,
was standing in the window outside my bedroom waving a
(25:41):
cricket bat. There was this and he's a huge, hulking man.
Back in the day, he was about six foot two,
very tall, strapping chap and this figure of I assumed
it was him. I would see standing in the tree
outside my window at night, and you know, the street
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light would be behind him and so I could see
his profile, and I swear to god he was waving
a crick about. And again, when you're seven, that doesn't
really make sense. And again completely frozen, arms straight down
by my side, not able to move. And then I
would just beg all of the toys in my bedroom
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on the top of my wardrobe, all these stuffed animals
and you know, dollies and toys, and I would just
beg them not to move, you know, just don't move, Please,
don't move, because there's somebody standing outside my window and
they might get you, and you might in turn get me.
It was all very very confusing when you're seven, and
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I would have night terrors. I'd sleep walk constantly, sleep screaming,
you know, night sweats, all of that sort of thing.
All of this was going on at the same time,
and I was still able to fly all around the world.
And again that also stopped when I was about eight
years old. So another paranormal thing that happened was when
I was in my early twenties by that stage, living
(27:10):
in London, and I was home alone, staying at a
friend's apartment, and there was nobody else there, and I
was watching a movie on the telly and this sound
struck the lound room door. My back was to the door,
and it was the sound of about twenty or thirty
(27:30):
steel or white coat hangers being flung at the door.
I could almost feel the impact of them hitting the door,
and I could hear them all as they landed on
the floor, and I thought, my god, someone's someone's coming
to the apartment or the flat and they're tearing the
place apart. I don't know what's going on, and so
I just literally sat there waiting for someone to come home.
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So that was about three hours later. Someone eventually came
home and there was nothing there, no coat hangers. So
that was a very odd experience, and I didn't mention
it to anybody because you know, how can you explain
something like that, You really can't. Fast forward to sort
of mid nineteen eighties. I was in my twenties and
(28:16):
again I was living back in Western Australia, and I
was living in the bush in the country, about halfway
up the northern northern part of the state, in a
very small country town, and I had been bought in
to work at the pub. And I'm a pretty hopeless
by maid, but I said, yes, yes, of course I
(28:36):
can do that. Anyway. Myself and another girl we started
working at this one and only pub in town and
it was never busy. There was never much going on.
It was quite a rundown sort of place, and I
just did it, you know, just through a bit of
a giggle. And my friend was staying at the pub
(28:57):
one night, and I'd been invited to I did friends
farm about seven k's seven kilometers out of town, so
I went there for dinner and I stayed the night
and I just slept on the lounge, on the sofa
in the lounge droom, and I had a very disconcerting
dream about being a passenger in a car at night
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time and my friend from the pub seven kilometers away,
she was behind the wheel of this car and she
was driving it extraordinarily fast, and we drove past people
on the road and they were reaching their arms out
to us, and we were just like, nah, we've got
to go, got to go. And then the car left
(29:41):
the road and started flying through the sky. It was
like something out of Harry Potter. And then the people
ended up walking in the sky as well. And so
you've got people in the sky, you've got this car
being driven insaney quickly going in the sky. And I
remember very clearly almost with a bank being on the
(30:02):
ground at nighttime back in the town, which was odd
because my brain said, no, you're on a farm. You're
not in town. What are you doing in town? And
then I felt this overarching sensation of you've got to hide,
You've got to run. It's coming. And in my dream,
(30:25):
the fear that had a hold of me was so
it was so overwhelming. I was desperate to hide. I
was running in my dream up and down lane ways
and streets of the town where the pub was, trying
to hide. I tried to hide in someone's shed. I
jumped somebody else's fence. I tried to hide down the
(30:48):
side of someone's house. I tried to hide, you know,
like climb under a bunch of old rubber tires. And
I knew it. It's in there in the sky. It's coming.
You've got to go go, go, go, run run, And
there were no lights on in town. My friend, who'd
been driving the car like a crazed maniac, she was
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also in my dream, and she was also trying to
hide around in the town, and I knew this thing
was zooming around in the air. I was desperate to
avoid it. Anyway. Next memory was that I'm screaming and screaming,
and I'm kind of watching myself being pulled up into
(31:29):
the sky and there's this bright, irridescent blue white light
and I am utterly powerless to resist it. I can't move,
I can't fight. All I remember feeling was total fear,
and in my head, I'm screaming. I'm screaming. And then
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somehow I found my voice and I was shouting at
the light as I'm probably thirty or forty me off
the ground by this point, and I'm shouting I'm not ready,
I'm not ready. Don't take me, I'm not ready. And
then I remember having this very irrational thought of oh,
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I'm not wearing the right shoes, which sounds really quite odd.
I suddenly went, my god, I've got bare feet. Oh
this won't do it all. If I had rubber soled
shoes on, I would be able to break the electrical
circuit and then this wouldn't be happening. Yeah, oh, silly me.
And then bang, I woke up and I was back
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in the lound room on the farm and I couldn't move.
My legs were ramrod straight. I was laying on the
sofa like an Egyptian mummy, you know how they put
their arms across their chest, and there was this incredible
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again blueish whitish light pouring in through the window because
there was a window down the side of the laundream.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
And the light.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Was almost blinding. And then that kind of the light
sort of moved across the room a little, and then
with my eyes, because my little eyes were the only
thing that could move, I was able to kind of
look strain my eyes to the fireplace, which was to
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the left of the sofa where I was sleeping, and
all this blue light had me just came like rushing
out of the fireplace and it filled the entire rooms
the entire room on that side, on the left side,
and then on the right side was still this blue
white light. Ah, and it just it was just terrifying,
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and it was incredibly bright. And then I thought, oh,
oh god, you know I must be dreaming. So I thought,
if I can blink my eyes three times and remember
that I've done that, then it'll be proof I'm not dreaming. Aha.
So I did that and blink, blink, blink, and I thought, oh, okay,
well I'm I'm not dreaming all right. Then my next
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thought was, don't close your eyes, stay awake, don't go
to sleep, stay awake. Until the sun comes up. If
you close your eyes and you go to sleep, they'll
get you. And the blue white light very slowly dissipated
and slowly disappeared, and then I was left still completely frozen,
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with my arms locked across my chest and everything still
frozen on the sofa. And then I could oh, that's right,
and the room slowly returned to you know, normal, and
I could feel something breathing on my cheek on my
left hand side, like on my face, and I thought, oh, oh,
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I'm going to pass out. This is too much. And
then I turned my eyes a teeny weeny kind of cry,
you know, sort of trying and pick out my left
hand side. And the people I was staying with had
a huge Alsatian dog, and I didn't know they had
a dog, and at that time I was very nervous
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around big dogs. But I thought okay, and I looked
kind of at its head, and in my mind I
said to the dog, please don't bite me. If you
bite me, you can bite my throat where you're at,
just please don't bite me. Anyway, so he didn't, but
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he didn't move from that spot for what seemed like ages.
It could have been five minutes. It could have been
an hour, I don't know. And eventually the dog, you know,
wandered off and went and over to the corner and
laid down and fell asleep. And I still laid there awake.
I don't know how long it was until I could
slowly move my toes and then I could move my
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shoulders a little bit. My elbows are tiny bit, but
I still couldn't move properly, and I just laid there
awake until the sun started to come up, and then
I could move things a little bit better. And eventually,
when the sun had fully come up and I didn't
feel quite so terrified, I got up and I went
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and woke the friends I was staying with and I said,
I'm sorry, I really.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Need to go.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I have to leave. I've got to go back to
the town anyway, So I did that. I didn't tell them,
of course, what happened. And when I got back to
the town, I saw my friend who was also working
at the pub, and I told her what happened. Well,
I know, sorry, I said to her, I had a
very weird dream last night, and she said, oh, shut up,
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so did I And I said, will you tell me
your dream. She said, well, you were in my dream
and we were in a car and we were in
the sky. And I just went, oh, okay, okay, now
you're you know, starting to worry a bit. I said,
what else happened in your dream? She said, oh, we
were hiding and something was chasing us, and I think
it got us. And I went, oh, okay. And it
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occurred to me that she had the same dream. And
I told her a little bit about what happened in
my dream, and we both decided that we were going
to sleep on the floor of her bedroom in the
pub that night, and were robers old shoes like sneakers
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in case it came back. And I know this sounds
really irrational and probably even quite funny, but we were
in our twenties and we were so frightened. Anyway, we
tried to go to sleep that night. We couldn't sleep.
There was a big party going on downstairs in this pub,
and we thought, oh, you know, suresh with the party.
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We could hear people talking, a little bit of music,
glasses clinking, all this sort of thing, and eventually we
just kind of, you know, fell asleep, and the next
morning we both spoke to the manager of the hotel
the pub, and we said, oh, what was with the
party last night? He said there was no party. He
said it was just a normal night. We had about
two customers and we closed at nine pm. What are
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you talking about? And we went, oh, nothing, nothing. We
swore there must have been, you know, one hundred people
at this imaginary party. Anyway, that night I thought, I'll
be brave, I'll go and I'll sleep in my own room.
I'm going to sleep in bed, though, in all my clothes,
with my rubber soled shoes on my sneakers, just in
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case I have to make a run for it. And
that night I dreamt that a little boy had drowned
in an outside laundry which was underneath my window. I
was on the second floor of this rickety old pub,
and the laundry was under my window and about twenty
meters from my room. And I woke up just, you know, snapped,
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just this cold, hard bang. I wasn't frozen, everything was fine,
but I leapt out of bed and I could hear
this groaning noise outside my door, and I unlocked my
bedroom door and I opened it, and without the word
of a lie, there was the pub manager's three legged cat.
He had one ear, one eye, and three legs, and
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his name really was Lucky. And he was sitting outside
my bedroom door and he was groaning. You know how
cats do, they kind of go and I thought, oh,
this is too much, and I shut my door. I
locked it. The cat stayed there, camped outside my door
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all night, and I had to step over him when
I opened my door the next morning, and I ran
to my friend's room and I told her what happened,
and she said, we're leaving. We're leaving town. And we
literally went and spoke to the bloke who managed the pub.
Didn't stop for breakfast, no nothing. We just went to him.
We said, this is this is getting too odd. We've
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got to go, and he went when we said, now
we've got to go, and just like that, off we went.
I don't know if other people who have stayed at
that establishment have experienced similar things, but it would come
as no surprise whatsoever. Anyway, that was in my mid twenties.
Life goes on. You know, I live all around the world,
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I have had an amazing job, I'm very busy, blah
blah blah. There's no nothing odd or unusual. Happens for
years and years and years. Then I start working again
in the outback in Australia. And the outback is pretty
much anywhere where there's a desert, either on the edge
of the desert, in the desert or on the way
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to the desert. So twenty and seventeen I would have
been in my early fifties. I was living on a
two million acre station far far far west Queensland. There's
only red dirt, blue sky, some cattle, of course, no trees,
there's really no vegetation, nothing, and the night sky is extraordinary.
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In one year I saw sixteen shooting stars. In twenty seventeen.
At this property, I used to sit up very late
watching satellites go over and planes in the days when
planes used to fly and go places, and so I
was very accustomed with, you know, the different flashing lights,
what they were and you know sometimes where they were going,
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all that sort of thing. And to give you an
idea of the distance that this property was from Brisbane,
if you got in a car at the property and
you drove for twenty three hours without stopping, you would
get to Brisbane. So it was a forty six hour
drive return trip. So It really was very, very isolated,
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and there's a certain amount of comfort in living somewhere
that is that far away from civilization. And we were
directly under the Milky Way way out there, and so
there were a few weird things. Every night for two
weeks there was a bright light, orangey yellow, very low
to the horizon, far far away in the distance. I
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thought it might have been somebody who was camping, but
the light itself was in like a semi circular. It
had a semi circular look to it, and it was
very glowy. I asked other people at the station what
they thought it was, and they said, oh, you know,
look it's probably just a work crew and they're camped up.
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But I, look, I wasn't. I wasn't convinced. And one
night it was just gone. Was there for two weeks
and then puff gone, just like that. There was another
instance where I couldn't sleep and I got up at
two o'clock in the morning, and I went out side
to you know, have a cigarette and look at the sky,
and blood dar and the moon was up. It was
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a very silver, glowy moon, and that was over my
left shoulder, and I noticed in front of me again.
Way off in the distance, there was this glowing, very small,
yellowy orange. It wasn't an orb it was this shapeless mass, really,
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and it got a little bit bigger and a little
bit larger, and it grew into this elongated egg shape,
and it was very orange and sort of pointing at
the top and point at the bottom, and it just
grew bigger and bigger. And again I looked at the
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moon over my shoulder. I went, no, that's okay, that's
definitely the moon. And I was just transfixed, and I
knew that if I went to get my fire to
take a photograph, that you know, it would vanish or
something would happen. And so I just sat there staring
at it. And then the deep orange color became a
more yellow, a very golden color, and it went through
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this phase where it became quite dark, just hanging in
the sky from maybe two minutes, and then very slowly
it just sort of seemed to gradually get smaller, small
or smaller, and then it disappeared. And I watched it
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and thought, wow, what even was that? And I didn't
have any handswers, so I went back inside and I
went to sleep, and again didn't mention it to assault,
and that brings me up to twenty twenty one. So
last year, by this stage I'd worked on several isolated
cattle stations around the country. I hadn't seen anything unexplained
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or weird until last year. So now I'm in central
Queensland and again on another cattle property. The sky here
gets quite cloudy quite often, not like the desert sky,
so you know, you can't see as much, but what
you do see is worth riding home. About three times
it's happened where I've been driving, either on the main
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road or on two of the back roads here in
between the towns. The towns are maybe an hour, two
three four hours apart, so you know, nothing too mad.
One night I was driving along and there was this
very low cloud of purply pink long just this glowing,
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this glowing light, and in the center of it, this
crack of red lightning came out and then pink, like
a hot pink magenta lightning, and it was quite low,
and I thought, oh, that's fantas so I pulled over
it was at night, of course, turned off my lights
and sat there on the bottom of my car just
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just watching this performance. And then I realized that these
extraordinary happenings were over the top of a mining a
mining operation. There's a lot of coal mining that goes
on around here. And then I was a little bit disappointed,
and I thought, oh, well, it must be you know,
the mining company must be shooting fireworks or explosives or something.
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And as soon as I thought that, I saw this again,
purply pink, not an explosion, but a cloud that was
above this particular mind site, and it came up and
it loomed up, and then it just went back in
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on itself and disappeared. And the last color to fade
away was this beautiful dark pink, reddish movie color, and
very slowly, yeah, it just faded away. And then I thought, oh, oh, well,
that was lovely. And then I got back into my
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car and I turned the lights on and off I drove.
And I've not seen anything quite like it before or since.
And that's my story.
Speaker 5 (47:21):
Wow, interesting stuff when you were a kid seventy eight
years old, astraw traveling, I.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Think that's what it was. I in my twenties did
a bit of reading about it because I didn't understand
what those experiences were. And I swear to god, Nick.
I would come home from school and I would see
my mum and I would say, I've been flying, mum,
and she'd say, okay, well, good for you. Where did
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you go today? And you know, i'd tell her what
it all looked like and she would just say, oh, darling,
that's lovely, good on you. And in places I would
go to, they were very foreign looking to me. I
was a little kid from the country who used to
climb trees and you know, play with puppy dogs and
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sticks in the creek, and you know, I would see
these lush green forests with tall almost like poplar trees,
and people wearing these beautiful, very old world clothing with
the men would have very high collared shirts and long,
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dark black coats, and the women would wear very sort
of pumpy dresses. And then, you know, another time i'd
be in a city and like the skyscraper time, you know,
I'd go down and got a little bit like Spider Man.
I'd go down in between the skyscrapers and just troofing
around the sky as though I owned it. It was amazing.
Speaker 5 (48:59):
Yeah, it seems quite the adventure for when you're when
you're at that age.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
Yeah, and if I had read a lot of fairy
tale books, I would counteract that with saying, oh, well,
you know, it's it's all in my mind. I read
fairy tales, and you know, I've made it all up.
But my mother actually stopped reading me fairy tales because
they were too scary, you know, Jack and the bean
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Stalk and the Hansel and Gretel the wicked Witch and
all this sort of thing. I no, I didn't really
really enjoy fairy tales that much. And so, yeah, my
life was very it was very simple, little outdoor life
and all this flying. I was quite shocked when when
my sister was born and I realized that I couldn't
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go flying anymore. Oh I can't go anywhere. Oh oh,
I wonder why that is. Oh oh well, and then
life just carried on and that's pretty much stopped.
Speaker 5 (49:54):
And then you had that one occasion in your thirdies.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Yes, yeah, I have sometimes wondered about trying to reconnect
with that experience again. But the draw, the draw to
reconnect with that and try to re experience is not
strong enough for me to actually give it. Another guy,
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like you.
Speaker 5 (50:20):
Said, the loss of control, and I think when you're
a kid, you're kind of open to everything. You know,
you're free, and I think when you're an adult, we are,
you know, in kind of closed boundaries and we want
to be more in control of our life, you know,
instead of things just happening. So I think we lose
a lot of a lot of that kind of stuff
when you're a kid.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
Yeah, when you're a kid, you've got that whole spontaneity
and you know, it's a very right brain existence. Everything's
all about emotional gratification. You go, oh, that looks good.
We I'll go over there, or we will do this,
and then yeah, I think a lot of that as
we get older and we start going to school, and
then you know, we grow up, we get a job,
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I think a lot of that just gradually disappears.
Speaker 5 (51:03):
Yeah, I think that's you know, I think when you're
a kid is better. You know, everything is exciting, everything
is fresh, you know, there's no danger, Everything is you know, amazing, colorful.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Yeah, everything's fascinating. Yeap. And you know, I'll never forget
that feeling of seeing the long, skinny man in the
sky and thinking just how clever he was to wear
trousers because when I would fly sometimes I would have
to remember, oh, oh, what's the Oh, I've got a
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skirt on today. Oh, well, you know when I land,
when I go down, you know, I'll have to hold
my skirt down. And sometimes i'd wear shorts. But yeah,
he was in long trousers, and I thought, oh, he's
a clever cookie.
Speaker 5 (51:48):
It is quite possible that he was another traveler.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Well quite likely. Yeah, yeah, And he's the only person
I've ever seen out there in the sky. And I
don't know what made me expect that there would be
more people. Oh if just remembered. I remember seeing a
man and a woman in a park and it was
a beautiful, oh, very very green park, like a very old,
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very old world park. And I remember coming down from
the sky. I went down below the level of the trees,
and I saw this lady and she had this beautiful
pale blue dress on and it was satin and I
wanted to touch it, and I thought, well, you know, gosh,
that's probably a little bit rude. So I flew down
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and I landed on the path and I walked toward
this lady and this man, and they were very polite,
and we had a very short conversation and I remember
just staring at her dress, desperately wanting to touch the
fabric because it just looked so lovely, and I thought,
I can't do it. You know, that's quite bad manners. No, no, anyway,
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so we said our goodbyes and off they went, and
I waited until they had gone, and then I just
very slowly leaned forward, took two steps, and went back
up in the sky. And then I flew around in
circles above them, watching them because I wanted to see
where the lady in my favorite blue dress was going
to go. And then I thought, no, I've got things
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to do wolf, and off I went again. Wow.
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Speaker 5 (54:08):
And what's up with Tony Gregg?
Speaker 1 (54:11):
Tony K I know right? My dad was a mad
cricket player and watcher, and we used to have to
go to all these weekend cricket games. You know, in
the country, that's all you do. You play sports is
you know, not too much else to do. And Tony
greg was on the South African cricket team. He was
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the captain, I think, and he was very tall, very tanned,
very blonde, with piercing blue eyes, and he had this
South African accent that I'd never heard before. And I
was both enthralled by him and utterly petrified of him.
And to imagine that he, of all people, would be
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standing outside my bedroom window waving a cricket bat. I
know it's it's absurd, but I can still see clear
a Isabelle in my mind's eye, the shape, the head,
the arms, his legs, and that's the thing that he
was holding, which in my little seven year old brain
was definitely a cricket that it was very odd. There
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used to be a lot of spooky things going on
in that house. Things banging at night, things banging on
the water pipes, people running around in the in the
side garden and the front garden, and we had an
outside toilet back then. Very sophisticated set up. And I
was so scared to have to go to the outside
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toilet because you know, there were no lights, no torches,
h And I would literally sprint outside ooh, do what
I had to do, and then sprint back in because
I was convinced that, you know, something was going to
get me. But it didn't, of course, and I'm still here.
Speaker 5 (55:52):
And the shadow kangaroo. Did you have a fear of
kangaroos or anything?
Speaker 1 (55:56):
No, No, not at all. No kangaroos, you know, kangaroos, wombats,
little marsupials of all sorts. No, I know, I'm not
afraid of any any animals. But this this thing, it
came about three times and I could feel the end
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of the bed go down when it sat on the bed,
and just looking at its profile, I was just convinced
it was a kangaroo. It was a malevolent kangaroo.
Speaker 5 (56:31):
I wonder if it could be anything late, you know,
like skinwalker, but maybe as an Aboriginal form.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
Oh maybe, well, you know, in Aboriginal folklore back in
the day, they had they had a being called featherfoot
kaditecha Man and he was a spiritual He was a
spirit who could take human form, and if kaditch cha
Man wished to ill on you, you would mysteriously end
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up deceased. And it never occurred to me that it
could have been a shape shifting thing. Well, I've never
really thought about that. I have listened to episodes about
skin walk Ranch and it's really put the fear into me.
But you know, I liked to listen to these things
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to try and work out an answer to some of
these experiences.
Speaker 5 (57:30):
It's just an idea. I mean, it never did you
any harm, did it. It just came and sun your bad.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
It just came. I remember its eyes, very dark, very
dark eyes. And don't ask me how it could even
see its eyes because it was pitch black. But I
felt that I could see its eyes and it never blinked,
not once. And it bothered me a lot that I
couldn't move, But it bothered me even more that it
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wouldn't move. I would want to to be be gone,
get off my bed, you know, and it wouldn't. And
like I say, I don't remember how those experiences resolved themselves.
Perhaps I went back to sleep. I can only hope
I did.
Speaker 5 (58:14):
But you said there was an active house as well,
you know, and I have plenty of guests that in
their childhood, you know, they talk about visits from different
types of creatures, you know, that used to come in
and either hide behind their bed or sit on their beds.
So and I don't think it's all necessary a childhood imagination,
you know.
Speaker 1 (58:32):
Yeah, yeah, you've just reminded me that I was convinced
that something lived inside my wardrobe, and the wardrobe was
opposite my bed, and where this kangaroo would sit wash
oh a foot away from the wardrobe. But yeah, I
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very rarely opened my wardrobe doors, and if I did,
it would be just to reach in, snatch a piece
of clothing and slamm shut. I was quite sure that
if I lift my wardrobe door open, I would be
sucked into it, and I'd be taken away somewhere.
Speaker 5 (59:06):
A scary closet.
Speaker 1 (59:08):
I know. It's like the lion, the witch and the wardrobe,
but nowhere near as much fun.
Speaker 5 (59:12):
You See, I had, I had a guest on I
think it's going to be released in a couple of weeks,
but she had she had the opposite Her solace was
actually hiding in the.
Speaker 1 (59:21):
Closet, really hiding in there from.
Speaker 5 (59:24):
From her experiences.
Speaker 1 (59:26):
Yes, Oh wow, And I suppose in there it's warm
and it's dark and and nothing you can get inside there. Oh,
isn't that interesting.
Speaker 5 (59:37):
She's in the seventies now, and she was telling me
she would still do that up until her fifties, where
the closet would be her safety, you know, a safety
in the place where she can go and be safe
and just close out the world from you know, a
lot of things that happened to her.
Speaker 1 (59:53):
Ah, I think that's really beautiful to have a nice,
warm place that is that that sanctuary and that safety
I think is so good because one thing that I
have always felt when these odd things have been going
on is I have always felt very exposed. And for me,
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my sense of safety is the opposite. To be out
in the desert. To me, that's very safe.
Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
Out in the open. Yeah, yeah, I see what you mean.
Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Sorry, Yeah, because you can see what's coming.
Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
You've run in any direction as well. Danger.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Yeah, you'd have to you have to run for a
jolly long way to get anywhere. But you could just
keep running.
Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
Yeah, you would literally be still running now.
Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Oh, I'm just going down the shop.
Three weeks later, no, I'm nearly there.
Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
And yeah, it's true, you know you stay over that
it's just down the road, but it would be seventy
one hundred, one hundred and fifty two hundred k's down
the road, just down the road exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Just as an aside, so I know you've you've probably
got to go in a minute. But tomorrow night, I've
just popping popping out for a chicken palmi, which is,
you know, a dinner, and it just happens to be
an hour up the road. And to me, that is, oh,
you know, just ducking out, just gonna pop out for
a chicken parmi and I'll be back later on. And
it's a two hour round trip, but that is actually
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incredibly close. I've done a six hour round trip to
get a pizza.
Speaker 5 (01:01:20):
It better be good pizza.
Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
It was worth it. It was worth it. Oh, and listen,
this has been such such a good experience. I know that,
you know, people do thank you, and I hear their
gratitude in their voice to you, and I am also
saying a big enormous thank you to you because you
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do you just you make people feel so comfortable. And
I hope I didn't ramble on too much. But yeah,
a big, big thank you to you for having a
chat making me feel relaxed, and yeah for just letting
me get that off my chest because I've I have
tried to tell a couple of people a couple of
times and it didn't end well.
Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Yeah, I hear.
Speaker 5 (01:02:07):
Yeah, And you know you haven't just told a couple
of people, you know, you've told thousands and thousands of
people all over the.
Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
World now or literally all over the world.
Speaker 5 (01:02:14):
So well done, and that's you know, that's what it's about.
It's a comfortable place to come and share it, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Yeah, And I do love listening to the episodes, especially
the throwback Thursdays, because those are the ones I've not
heard yet. And I tell you, I'm listening at every
moment I get to every episode. You know, once you
open that door a little crack, you can't close it,
(01:02:42):
and then suddenly the door's open and you're getting flooded
with all these stories. And people's experiences are so wide
and so varied, and it's wonderful that they can all
be validated in the in the way that you do that.
So yeah, thank you.
Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
In fact, I get email from people which have listened
to all the episodes and they have to restart listening again,
and they keep saying, will you release morely, release more.
Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
And you've done so many and there I mean, statistically speaking,
there are more people in the world and more people
seeing more things, and there are more avenues for them
to report their stories, and so it's just going to
keep growing exponentially.
Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
Yes, you're absolutely right, Johanna. I really appreciate you coming
on sharing that for our listeners.
Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
You are very welcome. Thank you very very much for
having me, and yes we will talk again soon.
Speaker 5 (01:03:38):
You enjoyed the restu evening and Kim content as speak
you soon. All right, take care of yourself, Thank you,
see you Okay, bye for now.
Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
That is all for this week.
Speaker 5 (01:03:48):
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you to Angelo and Johannah for sharing tonight, and thank
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you all for listening. I will be back next week
till then stay safe and keep watching the skies. Goodbye,
You'll be away five seventeen.
Speaker 2 (00:01):
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Speaker 3 (00:05):
We don't want.
Speaker 1 (00:06):
To report every thirty one.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Do you wish to report a.
Speaker 4 (00:09):
UFO over hey, we want to one of those.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Areas thirty one. Do you wish to find a report
of any kind of it?
Speaker 4 (00:18):
I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds.
Speaker 5 (00:20):
Time areas thirty one me neither there were self.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
If it was anybody a h above us to pass us,
Like thirty seconds ago, we.
Speaker 5 (00:32):
Were sending one top of golf negative, okay, OFFI the UFO.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeah it's murder two nine o'clock.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
Yes, I'll just passed over. I go.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
I don't know what it was, but it's from at
least to three thousand feet above us.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
See, I passed out over the top of US.
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Ninety one one.
Speaker 2 (00:53):
You just called both to be be four rest they're after.
Speaker 3 (00:57):
Staying the airplanes.
Speaker 4 (01:00):
Here to God on an unidentified object every liberty four
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Speaker 5 (01:15):
Welcome to UFO Chronicles, a place where people share their
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and welcome to the show. Wherever in the world you
are listening from. How are you doing? I'm Nick Canter
and this is the UFO Chronicles podcast first hand encounters
of this unexplained. The first guest we have for you
tonight is Angelo from Spain. Angelo received a message from
a recently past loved one that prevented another tragedy that
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was about to happen. Then we make our way to
the outback of Australia to talk to Johanna about her
paranormal experiences she has had over the years. Angelo up next.
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on with the show, all Angelo, and welcome to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Oh hello, Nick, thank you for having me.
Speaker 5 (03:13):
You're more than welcoming. It's great to have you come
on this evening call in from Spain.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Yes, sir, it's getting hot already over here.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
It's all overcast and windy over here. Now, Angelo, you
have a paranormal experience to share with us. Would you
like to start at the very beginning?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Please?
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yes, yes, sir, we have to go back. This was
around the year two thousand and one approximately, and it
is something that is very It was a very, very personal,
emotional story, and it is only now that I'm starting
(03:52):
to talk about it in public to honor the person
that was sort of the protagonist of the story. But
as I said, it's very emotional, and I've been talking
about it only in private, and it's only recently that
(04:15):
I've begun sharing the story in more public forums like
this one, like your excellent podcast. And it all started
with a friend of mine, my best friend, who happened
also to be the singer of my band. I was
(04:37):
playing drums in a gothic rock band and the singer
was my best friend. She had a girlfriend at the time,
and it was they were having a sort of an
open relationship, and I had really good vibes with his
(05:00):
go for him too. Her name was Sheila, and one
day she came home and well, things just got started.
We started a sort of romantic relationship and in this
(05:20):
strange love triangle. At first it was really intense. It
was really good because we were good friends, good friends,
the three of us. But you know, after all, we
were pretty young, and to pull something like to put
(05:41):
that kind of relationship, to pull it off, you really have,
you really need to have a level of emotional psychological
maturity that we obviously didn't have. Also, despite being within
the gothic rock scene that was supposed to be really
(06:02):
open minded and liberal, people started talking and messing around
and getting and middling.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
And so.
Speaker 3 (06:15):
Because of both our emotional immaturity, because of our youth
we were in the early in our early twenties, and
because of the people talking and meddling and giving us
a hard time, we started to have troubles amongst ourselves.
(06:36):
And so one day, just to make a long story short,
one day she told me that that was it, that
we better just remain friends, and that was about it.
So anyway, we kept on as we could, and one
(06:57):
day I received a car from another friend of mine,
and he told me that Sheila, this girl had had
an accident, has been had been in an accident, and
that's what they told me. They told me nothing more.
(07:19):
And I already had a really, really bad feeling. But
I picked up my best friend, the singer of my band,
and we went to the We drove to the hospital,
and when we got to the hospital, we found out
that Sheila had just died. She died in that as
(07:42):
a result of that car accident. It was a car accident,
so obviously we were devastated, and it just so happened
that during that period of time, I was reading a book,
if I recall correctly, it was a book by sojo
(08:05):
al Room post Shape, which which is sort of famous,
a famous author about Tibetan Buddhism. And I think the
book was called The Tibetan Book of Living and Dying.
I think that was the although it was a Spanish translation,
so the title was different, but I think that was
(08:26):
the book. So in that book there were meditations or
sort of rituals to help people who had recently died,
and so to help myself and to help this girl,
to help Sheila I thought to myself, why not try
one of these meditations, one of these rituals to try
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and help her and try to heal myself too the
pain that I was feeling so so one evening at
my in my bedroom and I was started to I
was in my bedroom and I started to perform one
of these meditations, and I literally invited her sort of
(09:10):
spontaneously invoking her, so to speak, inviting her to participate,
and even even to use my physical body to participate
in the meditation. And so after a few minutes, the
air in the room started to feel really dense, almost
(09:35):
in a way watery. The atmosphere was like watery. It
was like it felt as if I was underwater in
a weird way. And I also started to get a
strange feeling of anxiety, negativity. It was a bad feeling.
(09:58):
It was a really bad feeling. But I tried to
go on with the meditation and try to forget about
those negative feelings. I tried. I just tried to go
on with the meditation and with the lad you know,
the Tibetan rituals usually are very wide, light and colliery
and stuff. But I couldn't shed that feeling of something
(10:24):
being really really wrong. I kept going on, and after
a few minutes, I had the absolute certainty don't ask
me how, but I knew somebody else was in the
room with me. I was definitely not alone in the room,
and I was physically alone, but there was definitely somebody
(10:50):
else in the room with me. And it got even
more interesting. I started to behave like an automaton. I
started to behave like a robot, as if somebody else
were pulling the strings moving me. And in this disposition,
(11:15):
I felt the absolute urge to call my best friend
on the phone, the singer of my band, to call
him on the phone.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
So I did.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
I called him. I called him on the phone. He answered,
and with a very trembling voice, words started to pop
up in my mouth, and I started talking, not really
conscious of what I was saying. I was not speaking
(11:51):
deliberately on my behalf. I was somebody else. I was
speaking on somebody else's behalf. And in this awfully trembling voice,
I said to my friend something along these lines. I
(12:14):
said something like f which is the name, you know?
Then I said my friend's name, his name. I said,
Sheila is here and she wants you to know that
she holds no grudges. She wants you to know that
(12:36):
she forgives you, and she wants you to know that
she loves you. My friend heard those words and he
said he quietly said, oh, well, thank you both, thank
you for this call. And so we hung up. After
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we hung up, all those feelings, all those sensations and
all these behaving like an automaton, the atmosphere of density,
all that just puff it went away, and suddenly all
was normal again. Oh, everything was feeling normal again. So
(13:23):
I thought, Wow, that was wild. But everything felt normal again.
So I kind of relaxed and just went to sleep.
And we're getting to the end of the story now.
So the next day, my best friend and I meet
in person. And this is what's most emotional for me
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and most that's what makes this story even more I
don't know how to put it all inspiring.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
He tells me, dude, do you know what I was
doing when you called me to say those words? I
said no, And he tells me, do you really don't
know what I was about to do right at the
(14:17):
moment when you called me to tell me those things?
And I said no, No, how am I supposed to know,
and he tells me, dude, I was just about to
commit suicide. He was about to hang himself in his room.
(14:38):
And that's the end of the story. Take it or
leave it. That's what happened.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
That's absolutely amazing. You know, you made a connection with Sheila.
She came through and used you as a conduit. So
then you then spoke to your friend and saved his life. Yeah,
truly remarkable.
Speaker 3 (14:58):
I never had in ever since, I never had anything
any experience remotely similar, not nothing even close to that.
So that's what happened.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
That's absolutely amazing. You never had anything like that. Again, No,
it certainly makes you one, that doesn't it. I mean,
what what made you pick up the Tibetan book.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
It was a matter of.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
I was.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I've been always interested in in esotericism and mystics, mystical stuff.
But it just so happened that somebody, some other friend
had lent me the book. It just so happened that
that I was reading it at that time. It was
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a coincidence at the moment.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
Well we can say coincidence, but so it's all connected,
you know, it's it was everyone was at the right time. Yes, Yes,
if you hadn't have been meditating after reading the book,
then you know, you wouldn't have had this experience, and
you wouldn't have called your friend, and then you know
obviously what would happen.
Speaker 3 (16:03):
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 5 (16:04):
Yeah, that is amazing, Angelo, thank you for sharing that
with us.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Oh, thank you. I'm most grateful to you. And I
do this as a as a loving memory to Shila
because I think she did that somehow, and I think
it's high time that I pay honor to her to
her memory.
Speaker 5 (16:28):
Well, you couldn't have done it any better. Wonderful, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 3 (16:32):
Thank you, Nick.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
I haven't heard an account of that in a long
long time.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
That is perfect. And thank you so much again for
this opportunity.
Speaker 5 (16:40):
Yeah, Angelo, I really appreciate you coming on sharing that
for our listeners.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Oh, thank you. You're very kind.
Speaker 5 (16:46):
Great talking you and thank you. Yeah, thank you so
much for coming in with that. Definitely, that was definitely
an interesting one. That's certainly one that's going to stand out.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
M thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Thank you very kind and have a wonderful evening, sir.
Speaker 5 (16:57):
Yeah, you enjoyed your rest of evening, and I'll talk
to you soon. Angel.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Okay, Okay, okay, thank you, thank you, thank care bye.
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Speaker 1 (18:22):
Thank you very much, Nick, it's nice to be here.
Speaker 5 (18:24):
You were more than welcome calling from Queensland, Australia. Yes,
now you have some experiences to share with us. Would
you like to start at the very beginning?
Speaker 4 (18:34):
Please?
Speaker 1 (18:34):
I will. I will so. In a nutshell, I've lived
all over Australia, mostly in the deserts, in the outback
as we call it, in the bush in the country,
and it started when I was about seven years old.
I was convinced that I could fly. So way back
when I was seven, I was living in this tiny,
(18:56):
tiny country town way off in the western Australian wheat belt,
and I went through this phase of not knowing what
was real and what wasn't because as far as I
was concerned, I would come home from school and i'd fly.
I'd just walk around the house, I'd take two steps
and push. I'd be off flying and i'd go above
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the tree line. I'd go over the tops of the
houses in the town. And it didn't seem to matter
to me whether or not it was day or nighttime.
It wasn't as though I fell asleep and I was flying.
It was just something that I thought everybody did. And
one time, I was flying again in my mind, and
(19:43):
I was convinced that I went to Ireland. I'd never
heard of Ireland. I was seven years old. I don't
know what made me think it was Island. But there
were green fields, low profilestone fences, fluffy sheep cattle, and
I just was convinced I had been to Ireland. And
I told my parents, and they looked at each other,
and they looked at me, and nobody said a word.
(20:05):
I didn't watch TV back then, I never listened to
the radio. There was obviously no internet because this was
way back in the seventies. I didn't read magazines. I
didn't know anybody from Ireland, so I had no exposure
to anything Irish. But I was just convinced I've been
to Ireland anyway. So I started to become a little
(20:28):
bit more aware that not every child could fly, and
I thought, oh, well, that's kind of weird. You know.
I'd go off, flying around in the sky and I
wouldn't ever see anybody. It felt really euphoric, It felt
very freeing, and I stopped trying to explain it to
my parents, because you know, when you're seven years old,
(20:48):
you don't know what to think, and I just didn't
bother trying to rationalize it. There was one other time
I saw a person in the air in the sky
when I was flying, and I was over kind of
like these very old warehouses. I don't know what country
I was in, what city it was, but it was
a big city and there were these dilapidated old warehouses.
(21:11):
And this other person was about fifty meters away and
looked to be a very tall, long, thin man with
long trousers. And I thought, Wow, that man's really clever
because he's wearing long pants and your pants don't fly up,
you know when you're flying. That's that's a smart guy
right there. And we kind of acknowledged each other in
(21:33):
the sky, and we sort of slowly drifted apart and
flew away. And then I started to slowly realize over
it must have been over about a year that oh,
perhaps this flying business happens when I go to sleep,
and I would have these really beautiful dreams and then
(21:57):
push i'd be off again, flying over parks and houses
and highways and cities and whatever. Now, when I was
about eight, all of that stopped. My little sister was born,
and you know, things just got hectic, and it all
faded away until I was about late thirties and I
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dreamt that I was flying above some people in a
park and it was a very sunny day. It was
just lovely, and there were very tall skyscrapers, and I
was going in between the skyscrapers and woo around in
the sky. And I remember smelling the air in my dream,
but it felt as though I was really there. It
was very weird, and there was a very sweet, almost
(22:40):
like a sickly sweet smell in the air, but there
was no breeze, and I couldn't feel the air against
my skin or ruffling my hair. It's like I was
just gliding away. And then the sky, the sunny sky,
became a little bit darker and then darker, and I'm
just floating away and then I sort of kicked my
heels when and woloshed off and the sky became almost
(23:04):
instantly black. And I'm there and I'm going around through
the sky and I'm looking at all these twinkly things,
and I realized, oh the stars, Oh wow, look at that.
And I prepelled myself up a little bit further and
was looking around and I felt completely safe, absolutely at
(23:24):
ease and just marveling at how beautiful the sky was
in space, and I was totally at peace, and it
felt like I was in a womb or something. Anyway,
as I'm casually looking around, I turned around over my
shoulder and I saw the earth, and the earth was
(23:46):
quite bright, and instantly I saw this like a thick,
shiny silver cord coming out of my belly button, and
I just went bang. I was filled with shock and horror,
and instantly I woke up because I was terrified of
just dangling there in the sky. And oh after that,
(24:09):
I never flew again. I woke up in my bed
in a cold sweat, just absolutely petrified. And as much
as the whole flying thing was lovely, I'm a little
bit relieved that I don't do that anymore, because that
feeling of that loss of control was really overwhelming. Anyway,
(24:30):
So that was the end of my flying escapades. But
back again in the seventies, when I was seven and
I'm doing all this flying around, I used to see
these shadowy figures, and living in Australia, one of them,
of course, was a kangaroo. And this kangaroo would come
at night, probably a meter and a half tall. I
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wouldn't see it appear, but I could feel it, and
it would just sit on the end of my bed
and I'd lay in my bed staring at it, and
I couldn't move my arms on my legs, and I'd
just be terrified. And I can't remember how the kangaroo
ever went away, or how I managed to get out
(25:18):
of that situation. I think I would just fall back
to sleep. I really don't know. But I couldn't call
out to my parents, I couldn't call for help. I
was just totally frozen. And for the cricket fans, I
used to also imagine that Tony greg the South African cricketer,
was standing in the window outside my bedroom waving a
(25:41):
cricket bat. There was this and he's a huge, hulking man.
Back in the day, he was about six foot two,
very tall, strapping chap and this figure of I assumed
it was him. I would see standing in the tree
outside my window at night, and you know, the street
(26:03):
light would be behind him and so I could see
his profile, and I swear to god he was waving
a crick about. And again, when you're seven, that doesn't
really make sense. And again completely frozen, arms straight down
by my side, not able to move. And then I
would just beg all of the toys in my bedroom
(26:25):
on the top of my wardrobe, all these stuffed animals
and you know, dollies and toys, and I would just
beg them not to move, you know, just don't move, Please,
don't move, because there's somebody standing outside my window and
they might get you, and you might in turn get me.
It was all very very confusing when you're seven, and
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I would have night terrors. I'd sleep walk constantly, sleep screaming,
you know, night sweats, all of that sort of thing.
All of this was going on at the same time,
and I was still able to fly all around the world.
And again that also stopped when I was about eight
years old. So another paranormal thing that happened was when
I was in my early twenties by that stage, living
(27:10):
in London, and I was home alone, staying at a
friend's apartment, and there was nobody else there, and I
was watching a movie on the telly and this sound
struck the lound room door. My back was to the door,
and it was the sound of about twenty or thirty
(27:30):
steel or white coat hangers being flung at the door.
I could almost feel the impact of them hitting the door,
and I could hear them all as they landed on
the floor, and I thought, my god, someone's someone's coming
to the apartment or the flat and they're tearing the
place apart. I don't know what's going on, and so
I just literally sat there waiting for someone to come home.
(27:54):
So that was about three hours later. Someone eventually came
home and there was nothing there, no coat hangers. So
that was a very odd experience, and I didn't mention
it to anybody because you know, how can you explain
something like that, You really can't. Fast forward to sort
of mid nineteen eighties. I was in my twenties and
(28:16):
again I was living back in Western Australia, and I
was living in the bush in the country, about halfway
up the northern northern part of the state, in a
very small country town, and I had been bought in
to work at the pub. And I'm a pretty hopeless
by maid, but I said, yes, yes, of course I
(28:36):
can do that. Anyway. Myself and another girl we started
working at this one and only pub in town and
it was never busy. There was never much going on.
It was quite a rundown sort of place, and I
just did it, you know, just through a bit of
a giggle. And my friend was staying at the pub
(28:57):
one night, and I'd been invited to I did friends
farm about seven k's seven kilometers out of town, so
I went there for dinner and I stayed the night
and I just slept on the lounge, on the sofa
in the lounge droom, and I had a very disconcerting
dream about being a passenger in a car at night
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time and my friend from the pub seven kilometers away,
she was behind the wheel of this car and she
was driving it extraordinarily fast, and we drove past people
on the road and they were reaching their arms out
to us, and we were just like, nah, we've got
to go, got to go. And then the car left
(29:41):
the road and started flying through the sky. It was
like something out of Harry Potter. And then the people
ended up walking in the sky as well. And so
you've got people in the sky, you've got this car
being driven insaney quickly going in the sky. And I
remember very clearly almost with a bank being on the
(30:02):
ground at nighttime back in the town, which was odd
because my brain said, no, you're on a farm. You're
not in town. What are you doing in town? And
then I felt this overarching sensation of you've got to hide,
You've got to run. It's coming. And in my dream,
(30:25):
the fear that had a hold of me was so
it was so overwhelming. I was desperate to hide. I
was running in my dream up and down lane ways
and streets of the town where the pub was, trying
to hide. I tried to hide in someone's shed. I
jumped somebody else's fence. I tried to hide down the
(30:48):
side of someone's house. I tried to hide, you know,
like climb under a bunch of old rubber tires. And
I knew it. It's in there in the sky. It's coming.
You've got to go go, go, go, run run, And
there were no lights on in town. My friend, who'd
been driving the car like a crazed maniac, she was
(31:09):
also in my dream, and she was also trying to
hide around in the town, and I knew this thing
was zooming around in the air. I was desperate to
avoid it. Anyway. Next memory was that I'm screaming and screaming,
and I'm kind of watching myself being pulled up into
(31:29):
the sky and there's this bright, irridescent blue white light
and I am utterly powerless to resist it. I can't move,
I can't fight. All I remember feeling was total fear,
and in my head, I'm screaming. I'm screaming. And then
(31:53):
somehow I found my voice and I was shouting at
the light as I'm probably thirty or forty me off
the ground by this point, and I'm shouting I'm not ready,
I'm not ready. Don't take me, I'm not ready. And
then I remember having this very irrational thought of oh,
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I'm not wearing the right shoes, which sounds really quite odd.
I suddenly went, my god, I've got bare feet. Oh
this won't do it all. If I had rubber soled
shoes on, I would be able to break the electrical
circuit and then this wouldn't be happening. Yeah, oh, silly me.
And then bang, I woke up and I was back
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in the lound room on the farm and I couldn't move.
My legs were ramrod straight. I was laying on the
sofa like an Egyptian mummy, you know how they put
their arms across their chest, and there was this incredible
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again blueish whitish light pouring in through the window because
there was a window down the side of the laundream.
Speaker 5 (33:09):
And the light.
Speaker 1 (33:13):
Was almost blinding. And then that kind of the light
sort of moved across the room a little, and then
with my eyes, because my little eyes were the only
thing that could move, I was able to kind of
look strain my eyes to the fireplace, which was to
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the left of the sofa where I was sleeping, and
all this blue light had me just came like rushing
out of the fireplace and it filled the entire rooms
the entire room on that side, on the left side,
and then on the right side was still this blue
white light. Ah, and it just it was just terrifying,
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and it was incredibly bright. And then I thought, oh,
oh god, you know I must be dreaming. So I thought,
if I can blink my eyes three times and remember
that I've done that, then it'll be proof I'm not dreaming. Aha.
So I did that and blink, blink, blink, and I thought, oh, okay,
well I'm I'm not dreaming all right. Then my next
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thought was, don't close your eyes, stay awake, don't go
to sleep, stay awake. Until the sun comes up. If
you close your eyes and you go to sleep, they'll
get you. And the blue white light very slowly dissipated
and slowly disappeared, and then I was left still completely frozen,
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with my arms locked across my chest and everything still
frozen on the sofa. And then I could oh, that's right,
and the room slowly returned to you know, normal, and
I could feel something breathing on my cheek on my
left hand side, like on my face, and I thought, oh, oh,
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I'm going to pass out. This is too much. And
then I turned my eyes a teeny weeny kind of cry,
you know, sort of trying and pick out my left
hand side. And the people I was staying with had
a huge Alsatian dog, and I didn't know they had
a dog, and at that time I was very nervous
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around big dogs. But I thought okay, and I looked
kind of at its head, and in my mind I
said to the dog, please don't bite me. If you
bite me, you can bite my throat where you're at,
just please don't bite me. Anyway, so he didn't, but
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he didn't move from that spot for what seemed like ages.
It could have been five minutes. It could have been
an hour, I don't know. And eventually the dog, you know,
wandered off and went and over to the corner and
laid down and fell asleep. And I still laid there awake.
I don't know how long it was until I could
slowly move my toes and then I could move my
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shoulders a little bit. My elbows are tiny bit, but
I still couldn't move properly, and I just laid there
awake until the sun started to come up, and then
I could move things a little bit better. And eventually,
when the sun had fully come up and I didn't
feel quite so terrified, I got up and I went
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and woke the friends I was staying with and I said,
I'm sorry, I really.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Need to go.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
I have to leave. I've got to go back to
the town anyway, So I did that. I didn't tell them,
of course, what happened. And when I got back to
the town, I saw my friend who was also working
at the pub, and I told her what happened. Well,
I know, sorry, I said to her, I had a
very weird dream last night, and she said, oh, shut up,
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so did I And I said, will you tell me
your dream. She said, well, you were in my dream
and we were in a car and we were in
the sky. And I just went, oh, okay, okay, now
you're you know, starting to worry a bit. I said,
what else happened in your dream? She said, oh, we
were hiding and something was chasing us, and I think
it got us. And I went, oh, okay. And it
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occurred to me that she had the same dream. And
I told her a little bit about what happened in
my dream, and we both decided that we were going
to sleep on the floor of her bedroom in the
pub that night, and were robers old shoes like sneakers
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in case it came back. And I know this sounds
really irrational and probably even quite funny, but we were
in our twenties and we were so frightened. Anyway, we
tried to go to sleep that night. We couldn't sleep.
There was a big party going on downstairs in this pub,
and we thought, oh, you know, suresh with the party.
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We could hear people talking, a little bit of music,
glasses clinking, all this sort of thing, and eventually we
just kind of, you know, fell asleep, and the next
morning we both spoke to the manager of the hotel
the pub, and we said, oh, what was with the
party last night? He said there was no party. He
said it was just a normal night. We had about
two customers and we closed at nine pm. What are
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you talking about? And we went, oh, nothing, nothing. We
swore there must have been, you know, one hundred people
at this imaginary party. Anyway, that night I thought, I'll
be brave, I'll go and I'll sleep in my own room.
I'm going to sleep in bed, though, in all my clothes,
with my rubber soled shoes on my sneakers, just in
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case I have to make a run for it. And
that night I dreamt that a little boy had drowned
in an outside laundry which was underneath my window. I
was on the second floor of this rickety old pub,
and the laundry was under my window and about twenty
meters from my room. And I woke up just, you know, snapped,
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just this cold, hard bang. I wasn't frozen, everything was fine,
but I leapt out of bed and I could hear
this groaning noise outside my door, and I unlocked my
bedroom door and I opened it, and without the word
of a lie, there was the pub manager's three legged cat.
He had one ear, one eye, and three legs, and
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his name really was Lucky. And he was sitting outside
my bedroom door and he was groaning. You know how
cats do, they kind of go and I thought, oh,
this is too much, and I shut my door. I
locked it. The cat stayed there, camped outside my door
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all night, and I had to step over him when
I opened my door the next morning, and I ran
to my friend's room and I told her what happened,
and she said, we're leaving. We're leaving town. And we
literally went and spoke to the bloke who managed the pub.
Didn't stop for breakfast, no nothing. We just went to him.
We said, this is this is getting too odd. We've
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got to go, and he went when we said, now
we've got to go, and just like that, off we went.
I don't know if other people who have stayed at
that establishment have experienced similar things, but it would come
as no surprise whatsoever. Anyway, that was in my mid twenties.
Life goes on. You know, I live all around the world,
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I have had an amazing job, I'm very busy, blah
blah blah. There's no nothing odd or unusual. Happens for
years and years and years. Then I start working again
in the outback in Australia. And the outback is pretty
much anywhere where there's a desert, either on the edge
of the desert, in the desert or on the way
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to the desert. So twenty and seventeen I would have
been in my early fifties. I was living on a
two million acre station far far far west Queensland. There's
only red dirt, blue sky, some cattle, of course, no trees,
there's really no vegetation, nothing, and the night sky is extraordinary.
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In one year I saw sixteen shooting stars. In twenty seventeen.
At this property, I used to sit up very late
watching satellites go over and planes in the days when
planes used to fly and go places, and so I
was very accustomed with, you know, the different flashing lights,
what they were and you know sometimes where they were going,
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all that sort of thing. And to give you an
idea of the distance that this property was from Brisbane,
if you got in a car at the property and
you drove for twenty three hours without stopping, you would
get to Brisbane. So it was a forty six hour
drive return trip. So It really was very, very isolated,
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and there's a certain amount of comfort in living somewhere
that is that far away from civilization. And we were
directly under the Milky Way way out there, and so
there were a few weird things. Every night for two
weeks there was a bright light, orangey yellow, very low
to the horizon, far far away in the distance. I
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thought it might have been somebody who was camping, but
the light itself was in like a semi circular. It
had a semi circular look to it, and it was
very glowy. I asked other people at the station what
they thought it was, and they said, oh, you know,
look it's probably just a work crew and they're camped up.
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But I, look, I wasn't. I wasn't convinced. And one
night it was just gone. Was there for two weeks
and then puff gone, just like that. There was another
instance where I couldn't sleep and I got up at
two o'clock in the morning, and I went out side
to you know, have a cigarette and look at the sky,
and blood dar and the moon was up. It was
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a very silver, glowy moon, and that was over my
left shoulder, and I noticed in front of me again.
Way off in the distance, there was this glowing, very small,
yellowy orange. It wasn't an orb it was this shapeless mass, really,
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and it got a little bit bigger and a little
bit larger, and it grew into this elongated egg shape,
and it was very orange and sort of pointing at
the top and point at the bottom, and it just
grew bigger and bigger. And again I looked at the
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moon over my shoulder. I went, no, that's okay, that's
definitely the moon. And I was just transfixed, and I
knew that if I went to get my fire to
take a photograph, that you know, it would vanish or
something would happen. And so I just sat there staring
at it. And then the deep orange color became a
more yellow, a very golden color, and it went through
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this phase where it became quite dark, just hanging in
the sky from maybe two minutes, and then very slowly
it just sort of seemed to gradually get smaller, small
or smaller, and then it disappeared. And I watched it
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and thought, wow, what even was that? And I didn't
have any handswers, so I went back inside and I
went to sleep, and again didn't mention it to assault,
and that brings me up to twenty twenty one. So
last year, by this stage I'd worked on several isolated
cattle stations around the country. I hadn't seen anything unexplained
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or weird until last year. So now I'm in central
Queensland and again on another cattle property. The sky here
gets quite cloudy quite often, not like the desert sky,
so you know, you can't see as much, but what
you do see is worth riding home. About three times
it's happened where I've been driving, either on the main
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road or on two of the back roads here in
between the towns. The towns are maybe an hour, two
three four hours apart, so you know, nothing too mad.
One night I was driving along and there was this
very low cloud of purply pink long just this glowing,
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this glowing light, and in the center of it, this
crack of red lightning came out and then pink, like
a hot pink magenta lightning, and it was quite low,
and I thought, oh, that's fantas so I pulled over
it was at night, of course, turned off my lights
and sat there on the bottom of my car just
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just watching this performance. And then I realized that these
extraordinary happenings were over the top of a mining a
mining operation. There's a lot of coal mining that goes
on around here. And then I was a little bit disappointed,
and I thought, oh, well, it must be you know,
the mining company must be shooting fireworks or explosives or something.
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And as soon as I thought that, I saw this again,
purply pink, not an explosion, but a cloud that was
above this particular mind site, and it came up and
it loomed up, and then it just went back in
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on itself and disappeared. And the last color to fade
away was this beautiful dark pink, reddish movie color, and
very slowly, yeah, it just faded away. And then I thought, oh, oh, well,
that was lovely. And then I got back into my
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car and I turned the lights on and off I drove.
And I've not seen anything quite like it before or since.
And that's my story.
Speaker 5 (47:21):
Wow, interesting stuff when you were a kid seventy eight
years old, astraw traveling, I.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
Think that's what it was. I in my twenties did
a bit of reading about it because I didn't understand
what those experiences were. And I swear to god, Nick.
I would come home from school and I would see
my mum and I would say, I've been flying, mum,
and she'd say, okay, well, good for you. Where did
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you go today? And you know, i'd tell her what
it all looked like and she would just say, oh, darling,
that's lovely, good on you. And in places I would
go to, they were very foreign looking to me. I
was a little kid from the country who used to
climb trees and you know, play with puppy dogs and
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sticks in the creek, and you know, I would see
these lush green forests with tall almost like poplar trees,
and people wearing these beautiful, very old world clothing with
the men would have very high collared shirts and long,
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dark black coats, and the women would wear very sort
of pumpy dresses. And then, you know, another time i'd
be in a city and like the skyscraper time, you know,
I'd go down and got a little bit like Spider Man.
I'd go down in between the skyscrapers and just troofing
around the sky as though I owned it. It was amazing.
Speaker 5 (48:59):
Yeah, it seems quite the adventure for when you're when
you're at that age.
Speaker 1 (49:02):
Yeah, and if I had read a lot of fairy
tale books, I would counteract that with saying, oh, well,
you know, it's it's all in my mind. I read
fairy tales, and you know, I've made it all up.
But my mother actually stopped reading me fairy tales because
they were too scary, you know, Jack and the bean
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Stalk and the Hansel and Gretel the wicked Witch and
all this sort of thing. I no, I didn't really
really enjoy fairy tales that much. And so, yeah, my
life was very it was very simple, little outdoor life
and all this flying. I was quite shocked when when
my sister was born and I realized that I couldn't
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go flying anymore. Oh I can't go anywhere. Oh oh,
I wonder why that is. Oh oh well, and then
life just carried on and that's pretty much stopped.
Speaker 5 (49:54):
And then you had that one occasion in your thirdies.
Speaker 1 (49:58):
Yes, yeah, I have sometimes wondered about trying to reconnect
with that experience again. But the draw, the draw to
reconnect with that and try to re experience is not
strong enough for me to actually give it. Another guy,
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like you.
Speaker 5 (50:20):
Said, the loss of control, and I think when you're
a kid, you're kind of open to everything. You know,
you're free, and I think when you're an adult, we are,
you know, in kind of closed boundaries and we want
to be more in control of our life, you know,
instead of things just happening. So I think we lose
a lot of a lot of that kind of stuff
when you're a kid.
Speaker 1 (50:38):
Yeah, when you're a kid, you've got that whole spontaneity
and you know, it's a very right brain existence. Everything's
all about emotional gratification. You go, oh, that looks good.
We I'll go over there, or we will do this,
and then yeah, I think a lot of that as
we get older and we start going to school, and
then you know, we grow up, we get a job,
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I think a lot of that just gradually disappears.
Speaker 5 (51:03):
Yeah, I think that's you know, I think when you're
a kid is better. You know, everything is exciting, everything
is fresh, you know, there's no danger, Everything is you know, amazing, colorful.
Speaker 1 (51:13):
Yeah, everything's fascinating. Yeap. And you know, I'll never forget
that feeling of seeing the long, skinny man in the
sky and thinking just how clever he was to wear
trousers because when I would fly sometimes I would have
to remember, oh, oh, what's the Oh, I've got a
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skirt on today. Oh, well, you know when I land,
when I go down, you know, I'll have to hold
my skirt down. And sometimes i'd wear shorts. But yeah,
he was in long trousers, and I thought, oh, he's
a clever cookie.
Speaker 5 (51:48):
It is quite possible that he was another traveler.
Speaker 1 (51:51):
Well quite likely. Yeah, yeah, And he's the only person
I've ever seen out there in the sky. And I
don't know what made me expect that there would be
more people. Oh if just remembered. I remember seeing a
man and a woman in a park and it was
a beautiful, oh, very very green park, like a very old,
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very old world park. And I remember coming down from
the sky. I went down below the level of the trees,
and I saw this lady and she had this beautiful
pale blue dress on and it was satin and I
wanted to touch it, and I thought, well, you know, gosh,
that's probably a little bit rude. So I flew down
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and I landed on the path and I walked toward
this lady and this man, and they were very polite,
and we had a very short conversation and I remember
just staring at her dress, desperately wanting to touch the
fabric because it just looked so lovely, and I thought,
I can't do it. You know, that's quite bad manners. No, no, anyway,
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so we said our goodbyes and off they went, and
I waited until they had gone, and then I just
very slowly leaned forward, took two steps, and went back
up in the sky. And then I flew around in
circles above them, watching them because I wanted to see
where the lady in my favorite blue dress was going
to go. And then I thought, no, I've got things
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to do wolf, and off I went again. Wow.
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Speaker 5 (54:08):
And what's up with Tony Gregg?
Speaker 1 (54:11):
Tony K I know right? My dad was a mad
cricket player and watcher, and we used to have to
go to all these weekend cricket games. You know, in
the country, that's all you do. You play sports is
you know, not too much else to do. And Tony
greg was on the South African cricket team. He was
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the captain, I think, and he was very tall, very tanned,
very blonde, with piercing blue eyes, and he had this
South African accent that I'd never heard before. And I
was both enthralled by him and utterly petrified of him.
And to imagine that he, of all people, would be
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standing outside my bedroom window waving a cricket bat. I
know it's it's absurd, but I can still see clear
a Isabelle in my mind's eye, the shape, the head,
the arms, his legs, and that's the thing that he
was holding, which in my little seven year old brain
was definitely a cricket that it was very odd. There
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used to be a lot of spooky things going on
in that house. Things banging at night, things banging on
the water pipes, people running around in the in the
side garden and the front garden, and we had an
outside toilet back then. Very sophisticated set up. And I
was so scared to have to go to the outside
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toilet because you know, there were no lights, no torches,
h And I would literally sprint outside ooh, do what
I had to do, and then sprint back in because
I was convinced that, you know, something was going to
get me. But it didn't, of course, and I'm still here.
Speaker 5 (55:52):
And the shadow kangaroo. Did you have a fear of
kangaroos or anything?
Speaker 1 (55:56):
No, No, not at all. No kangaroos, you know, kangaroos, wombats,
little marsupials of all sorts. No, I know, I'm not
afraid of any any animals. But this this thing, it
came about three times and I could feel the end
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of the bed go down when it sat on the bed,
and just looking at its profile, I was just convinced
it was a kangaroo. It was a malevolent kangaroo.
Speaker 5 (56:31):
I wonder if it could be anything late, you know,
like skinwalker, but maybe as an Aboriginal form.
Speaker 1 (56:38):
Oh maybe, well, you know, in Aboriginal folklore back in
the day, they had they had a being called featherfoot
kaditecha Man and he was a spiritual He was a
spirit who could take human form, and if kaditch cha
Man wished to ill on you, you would mysteriously end
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up deceased. And it never occurred to me that it
could have been a shape shifting thing. Well, I've never
really thought about that. I have listened to episodes about
skin walk Ranch and it's really put the fear into me.
But you know, I liked to listen to these things
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to try and work out an answer to some of
these experiences.
Speaker 5 (57:30):
It's just an idea. I mean, it never did you
any harm, did it. It just came and sun your bad.
Speaker 1 (57:37):
It just came. I remember its eyes, very dark, very
dark eyes. And don't ask me how it could even
see its eyes because it was pitch black. But I
felt that I could see its eyes and it never blinked,
not once. And it bothered me a lot that I
couldn't move, But it bothered me even more that it
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wouldn't move. I would want to to be be gone,
get off my bed, you know, and it wouldn't. And
like I say, I don't remember how those experiences resolved themselves.
Perhaps I went back to sleep. I can only hope
I did.
Speaker 5 (58:14):
But you said there was an active house as well,
you know, and I have plenty of guests that in
their childhood, you know, they talk about visits from different
types of creatures, you know, that used to come in
and either hide behind their bed or sit on their beds.
So and I don't think it's all necessary a childhood imagination,
you know.
Speaker 1 (58:32):
Yeah, yeah, you've just reminded me that I was convinced
that something lived inside my wardrobe, and the wardrobe was
opposite my bed, and where this kangaroo would sit wash
oh a foot away from the wardrobe. But yeah, I
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very rarely opened my wardrobe doors, and if I did,
it would be just to reach in, snatch a piece
of clothing and slamm shut. I was quite sure that
if I lift my wardrobe door open, I would be
sucked into it, and I'd be taken away somewhere.
Speaker 5 (59:06):
A scary closet.
Speaker 1 (59:08):
I know. It's like the lion, the witch and the wardrobe,
but nowhere near as much fun.
Speaker 5 (59:12):
You See, I had, I had a guest on I
think it's going to be released in a couple of weeks,
but she had she had the opposite Her solace was
actually hiding in the.
Speaker 1 (59:21):
Closet, really hiding in there from.
Speaker 5 (59:24):
From her experiences.
Speaker 1 (59:26):
Yes, Oh wow, And I suppose in there it's warm
and it's dark and and nothing you can get inside there. Oh,
isn't that interesting.
Speaker 5 (59:37):
She's in the seventies now, and she was telling me
she would still do that up until her fifties, where
the closet would be her safety, you know, a safety
in the place where she can go and be safe
and just close out the world from you know, a
lot of things that happened to her.
Speaker 1 (59:53):
Ah, I think that's really beautiful to have a nice,
warm place that is that that sanctuary and that safety
I think is so good because one thing that I
have always felt when these odd things have been going
on is I have always felt very exposed. And for me,
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my sense of safety is the opposite. To be out
in the desert. To me, that's very safe.
Speaker 5 (01:00:20):
Out in the open. Yeah, yeah, I see what you mean.
Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Sorry, Yeah, because you can see what's coming.
Speaker 5 (01:00:25):
You've run in any direction as well. Danger.
Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Yeah, you'd have to you have to run for a
jolly long way to get anywhere. But you could just
keep running.
Speaker 5 (01:00:34):
Yeah, you would literally be still running now.
Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Oh, I'm just going down the shop.
Three weeks later, no, I'm nearly there.
Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
And yeah, it's true, you know you stay over that
it's just down the road, but it would be seventy
one hundred, one hundred and fifty two hundred k's down
the road, just down the road exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:00:54):
Just as an aside, so I know you've you've probably
got to go in a minute. But tomorrow night, I've
just popping popping out for a chicken palmi, which is,
you know, a dinner, and it just happens to be
an hour up the road. And to me, that is, oh,
you know, just ducking out, just gonna pop out for
a chicken parmi and I'll be back later on. And
it's a two hour round trip, but that is actually
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incredibly close. I've done a six hour round trip to
get a pizza.
Speaker 5 (01:01:20):
It better be good pizza.
Speaker 1 (01:01:22):
It was worth it. It was worth it. Oh, and listen,
this has been such such a good experience. I know that,
you know, people do thank you, and I hear their
gratitude in their voice to you, and I am also
saying a big enormous thank you to you because you
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do you just you make people feel so comfortable. And
I hope I didn't ramble on too much. But yeah,
a big, big thank you to you for having a
chat making me feel relaxed, and yeah for just letting
me get that off my chest because I've I have
tried to tell a couple of people a couple of
times and it didn't end well.
Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
Yeah, I hear.
Speaker 5 (01:02:07):
Yeah, And you know you haven't just told a couple
of people, you know, you've told thousands and thousands of
people all over the.
Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
World now or literally all over the world.
Speaker 5 (01:02:14):
So well done, and that's you know, that's what it's about.
It's a comfortable place to come and share it, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Yeah, And I do love listening to the episodes, especially
the throwback Thursdays, because those are the ones I've not
heard yet. And I tell you, I'm listening at every
moment I get to every episode. You know, once you
open that door a little crack, you can't close it,
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and then suddenly the door's open and you're getting flooded
with all these stories. And people's experiences are so wide
and so varied, and it's wonderful that they can all
be validated in the in the way that you do that.
So yeah, thank you.
Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
In fact, I get email from people which have listened
to all the episodes and they have to restart listening again,
and they keep saying, will you release morely, release more.
Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
And you've done so many and there I mean, statistically speaking,
there are more people in the world and more people
seeing more things, and there are more avenues for them
to report their stories, and so it's just going to
keep growing exponentially.
Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
Yes, you're absolutely right, Johanna. I really appreciate you coming
on sharing that for our listeners.
Speaker 1 (01:03:33):
You are very welcome. Thank you very very much for
having me, and yes we will talk again soon.
Speaker 5 (01:03:38):
You enjoyed the restu evening and Kim content as speak
you soon. All right, take care of yourself, Thank you,
see you Okay, bye for now.
Speaker 1 (01:03:45):
Bye.
Speaker 2 (01:03:46):
That is all for this week.
Speaker 5 (01:03:48):
Keep updated and connected with a show on Twitter, Facebook,
and Instagram. And if you have an encounter that you'd
like to share on the podcast, you can email me
at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com, or you can
reach out to me via the contact page on my
website at UFO Chronicles podcast dot com. A big thank
you to Angelo and Johannah for sharing tonight, and thank
(01:04:11):
you all for listening. I will be back next week
till then stay safe and keep watching the skies. Goodbye,
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