Ep.201 Black Diamond / Hungarian UFOs (Throwback)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 3 (00:06):
To report every thirty one.

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See if it was anybody.

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Above us to pass us, Like thirty seconds ago, we.

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Speaker 4 (00:37):
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Speaker 1 (00:39):
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Speaker 2 (00:43):
I don't know what.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
It was, but it's from at least to three thousand
feet above us.

Speaker 6 (00:47):
See, I passed right over the top of US.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
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They're after staying the airplanes.

Speaker 6 (01:00):
He is to God on an unidentified object every liberty
or call or calm on an unidentified flying object.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share
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You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com.

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Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. Wherever in the
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I'm Nick Canter and this is the UFO Chronicles podcast.
We start off to with Blast from California with an
encounter of a black diamond shaped UFO hovering over her
back deck. Then, for our second guest, we speak with

(02:09):
Daniel in Hungary about his UFO and paranormal experiences. Blass
is up next. If you enjoy listening to the podcast
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Speaker 6 (02:42):
Now on with the show, Hello, bless.

Speaker 4 (03:01):
And welcome to the show.

Speaker 3 (03:03):
Hi, thank you very much for having me.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
You are more than welcome and you're calling from California. Correct,
would you like to take uspat to your encounter and
let the listeners know exactly what you saw, please, ma'am.

Speaker 5 (03:15):
I would love to because the further I get away
from this, it feels like I'm losing part of it,
and I don't want to lose it. So I'm grateful
to you for providing me this opportunity to get it
on tape or whatever. So this happened back in late
twenty twenty. It was wintertime because I was living in
the mountains, and I know that I have had a
two story house. My bedroom was downstairs, my living room

(03:37):
was upstairs, and off the living room was deck. And
I have a degenerating, degenerating spine. My spine is disintegrating.
I have collapsed discs and so it's very difficult for
me to sleep through the night and I usually end
up waking up about one two o'clock in the morning.
And that's what happened on this particular morning late in
twenty twenty. And Plus it was cold, and there's a

(03:58):
floor bend upstairs on that I like to did like
to sit on. I don't live in this house anymore,
so I had gone upstairs. It was probably about two
between two and three o'clock in the morning, I had
gone upstairs and sat in my recliner. There was nothing
else on in the house. The recliner faced the outside deck,
and I had sliding glass doors from the floor to

(04:20):
the ceiling in front of me. And I was just
sitting in my recliner, you know, looking outside, looking at
the night sky. And then I was probably in the recliner,
maybe sitting upright in the recliner, maybe five minutes, and
then all of a sudden, out of the blue, this
black diamond shape appeared hovering over my back deck. Now

(04:40):
to describe the shape, it wasn't like a it wasn't
a straight lines on the diamond. They were more concave
and I could see you might be saying, well, how
did you see this black diamond against the black sky.
It's because there was flames. There was flames around the
whole the whole perimeter of the diamond was surrounded by
these flames, and so I could see it, and I

(05:02):
could see that it had depth. It was just I
was in such astonishment. I mean, I'm sixty three years old.
I've had some pretty phenomenal things happened to me before
in my life, but never ever anything like this.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
Before, and so I was. I was pretty much glued
to my chair.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
I wanted desperately to get up and to get my phone,
but I found that I couldn't move. Whatever this diamond
was that was outside hovering over my deck, it just
had I could see it, I could register what was happening,
but I could not physically move off of my chair.
My feeling was just awe through this entire event. I
wasn't afraid. I was just like, oh, wow, it's finally happening.

(05:43):
Because I've always kept an open mind to these things,
you know, but I've always said that, well, if one
really exists, I wanted to land in my backyard ha
ha ha.

Speaker 3 (05:52):
And then it's like, here it is.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
It hasn't landed because there's no place to land in
your yard, but there is this awesome some deck where
there's no power lines, and it was the perfect place
for this diamond like shape to just.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Appear out of nowhere. And so we sat there. I
sat there engaging with it. I don't know exactly what
we did.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
I was just like in awe and just disbelief the
whole time. Didn't again, it didn't feel fear, didn't feel
like it was out to harm me.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
I just felt totally a piece.

Speaker 5 (06:23):
Except for the fact that I could not get out
of my chair, and that kind of bothered me because
I don't like to be restrained in any way, and
I did feel as if there was every time I
tried to make a move to get out of the chair,
I felt like something was forcing me back into the chair.
So this entire accounter probably lasted, I'm going to say,
anywhere from maybe five to ten minutes, and then as

(06:44):
quickly as it had appeared, it suddenly vanished, and then
I was left with the flat expanse of sky. I
looked at my clock because I know I have read
about you know, time loss and all that.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
I didn't lose any time.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
It was like, you know, ten minutes and it's past
whatever time I had started to experience the black diamond.
So there wasn't I wasn't abducted, there wasn't any time loss.

Speaker 3 (07:08):
But what it did was it showed to.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
Me that what we perceive as space as being like
a flat space is not flat. There's dimension, there's dimensionality
to space time, and that's where this diamond shape came from.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
It came interdimensionally, So that's why I.

Speaker 5 (07:26):
Say it's more of a UAP as opposed to a UFO,
because UFOs.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
You know, it seems like they've come well. I guess.
I don't know if there's any difference.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
Or not, but it just it proved to me that
what we see in our normal, ordinary reality of perception
is not is not all there is.

Speaker 3 (07:46):
There's so much more.

Speaker 5 (07:47):
And in trying to explain the flames, I know I've
made a drawing of this again so that I wouldn't
forget it. In trying to explain the flames that I
saw all around the perimeter, I have since become as
you can imagine, I didn't know anything.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
About reporting this. I didn't know about that you were
supposed to report this to Moufon, So I had no
idea what to do with what I had just experienced.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
I was too embarrassed to tell my son, although I
did end up telling him much later, and then this
brought out a bunch of other stuff from him about.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
What he has experienced. So I didn't know what to do,
but I did research it.

Speaker 5 (08:23):
I did after this occurred, I did everything in my
power to research, just think, you know, to see if
anybody else has had this experience, and I since joined moufon,
and what I realized was that I was not the
only one experiencing the diamond or a geometric shape. That
Mofon has regular sightings of people seeing my particular diamond

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shape of at least.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
Five per month throughout the world. I'm guessing.

Speaker 5 (08:48):
And also getting back to the flames, I watched the
Skinwalker Ranch video and I had never seen a Tesla
coyle before in you know, to see what it does.
But in the particular flick on Netflix, they showed what
a tesla coil admits as far as the flames. That
is exactly that is exactly what I saw around the

(09:11):
perimeter of this diamond shape, because it wasn't like it
was on fire. But if you've ever seen a Tesla coil,
the you know, the whatever it is that it admits,
that's exactly what it was around this diamond shape. I've
since moved from the house, unfortunately, because.

Speaker 3 (09:28):
I feel like I had a portal there.

Speaker 5 (09:30):
This was This was my first encounter of this type,
but I had had other weird experiences living there.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
I've since moved down to u Kaipa.

Speaker 5 (09:39):
I have not experienced anything thing like it since and
it's kind of a disappointment. It's a letdown, but then
again it's okay. Something has told me that it is there,
and and I feel that, you know, even though there's
other people you know in the move On report that
are experiencing these shapes, I still feel special. I feel
that it I had somehow sought me out because it

(10:02):
appear over my back deck, you know what I mean.
It wasn't where people experience the UFOs and thousands and
the entire city of Phoenix sees.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
It wasn't like that.

Speaker 5 (10:14):
This was very upclose and personal to me for me,
and so I will never forget the experience, and I'm
just happy to be able to share it.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
And hopefully because in my search and trying to find
other people who.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
Have experienced this black diamond, I am hoping that you know,
that I can share my experience to make other people
who have maybe experienced a geometric shape or a black
diamond coming out of space that they're not alone.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
And that's my story.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
Wonderful blasts, such an interest in sight, and they do
come in all shapes and sizes, and I get diamonds
on air, I get cubes, you name it, all different
shapes and sizes the flame that you described, So it
wasn't like a burning, normal fireflame. No know the color,
what kind of color was it.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
It was like a yellowish It was like a yellowish
white color.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
So it wasn't orange. That's why it didn't. It wasn't
like real fire. It was like a yellowish kind of
like a pale yellow light. But it was all around
the sides, and it was almost like it was showing
me that it had depth, because at one point, i'd say,
at the bottom part of it, I could see I

(11:29):
know this sounds weird, but I'm sure you're.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
Just hearing the weirdness. But I could see the dimensions.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
I could see the fact that it was going inwards
into space, and that space does have dimension.

Speaker 3 (11:43):
It's not flat. I don't have words to describe it
any other way.

Speaker 4 (11:48):
It just it was.

Speaker 5 (11:49):
It showed the flames allowed me to see the dimensionality
of the diamond.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
So the effects was a bit like, you know, like
a plasma ball.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
Yes I do.

Speaker 5 (12:00):
I'm not sure what a plasma ball would look like,
but yeah, I'm thinking it probably would because it wasn't
It wasn't flames that like you said, it wasn't flames
like fire. It was more all I can describe. It
is exactly like what a Tesla Coil would admit. It's
that kind of energy light thing, whatever it is, whatever

(12:22):
it was.

Speaker 4 (12:23):
It's interesting that you're saying about the color and the
effect could be something to do with the effect in
the electromagnetic field. Yes, just like Tesla Coil did.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (12:33):
Can you gauge a size of the object from where
you were?

Speaker 5 (12:37):
I'd say it was probably about two to three feet
in height, maybe two feet in diameter.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
It was fairly close to my glass.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
It was fairly close, but yet it was probably maybe
a couple of feet away from the glass. And in
doing my research about the radiation effects, I've since I
realize now that the last is probably what protected me
from any type of radiation that you know, because I've
you know, done reading as far as like the people
at Skinwalker Ranch and the radiation effects. I'm thinking it

(13:12):
was my double paint, my dual pain glass slider that
protected me from any possible radiation.

Speaker 4 (13:19):
Did you personally have any health wise after the event,
anything anything that was different?

Speaker 5 (13:26):
No, nothing different except for one not this is not
health wise. But and again I don't know how much
of it as being. This is why it was like
I was a pure I was a totally pure, uncontaminated
subject because I hadn't done any research prior to this.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
But now afterwards, of.

Speaker 5 (13:45):
Course I am researching and I am hearing about all
these other effects, and I did you know, read about
the hitchhiker effect as far as the people at Skinwalker
bringing home things to their friends and relatives. And was
really interesting to me is that my son, I have
an only child.

Speaker 3 (14:03):
He's thirty four years old. He lives on his own.

Speaker 5 (14:05):
He as a firefighter, and I'm very very proud of him,
and I feel like he's down to earth compared to me.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
But he had a very.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
Interesting synchronistic event shortly after this that was just unbelievable
when he told me about it. I mean it wasn't
health wise, but again it was it was this synchronistic
events that I did find have increased in my life
tenfold since this happened.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
You know a lot of people that have experiences, they
tend to get opened up to things that they normally
wouldn't have done and then sometimes effective for people around you.

Speaker 5 (14:37):
Well, what's interesting is, like I said, I've always had
an open mind to this, and I have a master's
degree in psychology, and I got very interested in parapsychology
when I was going to school and college and Charles
Tart and all the researchers at the time, and I
was very interested in trying to prove, you know, this
stuff exists. And then I just started to lose the
interest because it's like, well, once you once, you prove it,

(15:02):
or you can't prove it.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
That's the whole thing, and that there's no need.

Speaker 5 (15:05):
To prove it to the people who really know, and
for those who don't know and don't will never understand it,
there's no point in proving it. So I always had
synchronistic events and I was, but never ever to this degree.
I mean, it's to the point now where I will
say something out loud because I live alone and I

(15:26):
have a tendency to talk to myself, and the next
thing I know, I'm hearing the exact.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Same word on television. I mean, it's that kind of thing.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
It's where the synchronistic event is almost instantaneous at this point.
So it's the WU has intensified tenfold from what it was.

Speaker 4 (15:46):
Welcome to the wu big shout out to your son.
We have deep respect for firefighters all.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Over the world.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
Now, the object you said, it completely vanished just like that. Yeah,
did you say it appear or was it just there?

Speaker 3 (16:03):
It was just there.

Speaker 5 (16:05):
It came out of nowhere. It just popped into view suddenly.
And hence my shock and awe because it was like,
all right, you know, you're suddenly looking at this black
sky with stars, you know, expecting to continue to see
the same thing, and then all of a sudden, this
thing appears out of nowhere. So yeah, it just appeared,

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and it disappeared as quickly as it had appeared.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
You can certainly hear the excitement in your voice as
well when you were telling it.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
It was totally the most awesome thing I have ever
experienced in my entire life.

Speaker 1 (16:38):
It really was.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
And now it's put you on a mission to discover more.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
It has because I know.

Speaker 5 (16:45):
That there is that there is for sure, because of
my own experience. I always knew, you know, I always
had this, knowing, this intuitive knowing that there was much more.
But now I know for sure because I did experience it.
But it so it's like a couple months, okay, This
was in late twenty twenty, so in January of twenty
twenty one, I ended up joining the app Clubhouse. I

(17:09):
don't know if you're familiar with that, but it is worldwide.
It's an audio social media app. And from Clubhouse I
did find out. That's how I found out about move On,
because there's mofon investigators on there. I found out about
a bunch of things regarding this, and yeah, I do
get the move On.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
I've subscribed to the move On letter. I have a
hard time with a.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
Lot of it because I feel like people are trying
to make a buck out of this whole thing, which
I think is totally wrong. I've always felt that it's
wrong to try to make a buck off spirituality or
even things like this, and there's a whole bunch of
people out there who are and so I am kind
of turned off by that, and I feel like move On.
And I'm not to put down move On, but the

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fact that they're selling merchandise shirts and hats and all that,
I mean, that really turns me off. But I do
like seeing the shapes. I do because they give an
absolute listing of all the geometric shapes that have been
seen throughout the world and how many people have reported them.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
So I do follow that. I just I'm reluctant, don't.

Speaker 5 (18:17):
I shared it a couple times on Clubhouse, but you're
probably maybe the third person that I have shared this with,
because there's still a part of me.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
I'm from that generation.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
I'm sixty three, and I'm part of that generation where
you know, if you told anybody about this kind of stuff,
they would think you were a luney bit too, And
so part of me still that was My reluctance to
even tell my son about it was because of that
stigma attached to it. But you know what, I no
longer have that because there's just too much evidence at
this point. Even though what was released from the government

(18:50):
is really the most minimalistic thing they could have possibly released,
at least it was a start. At least there was
some thing showing that there is legitimacy to the whole
UFO phenomenon. I still give this I think I told
you or I had mentioned that, I still give it
a ten percent chance that this could have been man
made tech, because I think that's out there. I do

(19:13):
feel that we have, you know, have the alien tech,
and we are reverse engineered it since.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
Raw aswell, and I think we are experimenting with it.

Speaker 5 (19:24):
However, I just I give it a ten percent chance
it could have been man made, but I just don't.

Speaker 3 (19:31):
I mean, I don't think it was. I don't think
it was. My intuition tells me it was not man made.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
Since the government has come out and released so you know,
I know it's only been stepping stones and small tip
bits of information, but it is a start, and it
has brought a few more people at the woodwork to
share their accounts. And you know, Blast your age bracket
is probably about sixty percent of my guests that are

(19:57):
coming out and sharing their accounts that they've never told before.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
That's interesting, that's very very interesting, And it probably has
to do with that stigma because I see all these
old men on these old men on TV, like the
guy from the Israeli Defense that was talking about how
you know we were living with on Mars, that there's
a colony of earth people with Martians and with the

(20:23):
Israelis there are.

Speaker 3 (20:25):
Living on Mars.

Speaker 5 (20:26):
And it's like these people are now dying, these old people,
and they don't want to go to their deathbeds with
this information. Because they know that this could possibly benefit humanity.
So that is very interesting that it is my age group,
and I think that has a lot to do with it.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
That they don't want to go.

Speaker 5 (20:43):
They don't want to die knowing that they haven't they
haven't fulfilled.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Whatever mission or whatever they were supposed to do here
on earth, and I think that's got a lot to
do with it.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
Plus, it is extremely liberating for someone to come out
and share something, finally, get it off their chest.

Speaker 6 (21:01):
They have never told.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
They may have told, you know, a couple of members
of the family, but generally, you know, nobody knows. And
a lot of that also, some of that is to
do with people's jobs. You know, they don't want their
peers to find out, especially if they're in professional jobs,
which I get an awful lot of guests that are
quite high the top of their game. I should say,
you know from, but my guests are from all walks

(21:23):
of life. My guests don't come from the TV. They're
not on the lecture circuit. I avoid them. I say,
this show isn't for you, but this show is predominantly
only for everyday people. Good and you're right about move
on the downside of move on is that you have
to pay a membership to be out of view or
their information. Everybody knows moufon, you know, everybody knows them.

(21:47):
A lot of people, you know, when they have a
site and they have no interest in the subject, they
don't know where to go. You know, that's normal. But
in America you've got the National UFO Reporting Center, which
is free to file a report. It's free to view
past sightings, and they're the same. They have shapes on there,
they have times and dates, and so that's a wonderful

(22:07):
place to fire the report to.

Speaker 3 (22:09):
Okay, that's good to know for the future.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
Yeah, I mean you can even add historic ones. I
always say to people, you know, if you've had a
sighting and never report it, you know, just report it
because okay, lot a lot of researchers will go and
people like yourself, you know, where you've You've tried looking
around to see whereever people have seen this diamond shape,
and it's just a good place where people can and
go and then and check out check out the archives.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
Okay, that's good to know.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
One for what an interesting sighting, Blass, I really appreciate
you coming on sharing that for our listeners.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Okay, no problem, Thank you for having me. I'm glad
we got this done.

Speaker 4 (22:44):
Yeah, you're more than welcome.

Speaker 5 (22:46):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
It's wonderful talking today. Take care of yourself and.

Speaker 3 (22:49):
We speak to bye bye.

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Speaker 1 (24:09):
Jona pot Nick.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
Thank you, thank you for joining us today. And you're
calling from Budapest in Hungary.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
That is right the capitol and you are our very first.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
Guest from Hungary, so that's good to hear. Daniel, thank you.
Looking forward to it now, Daniel, you have some UFO
and paranormal experiences to share with us. Would you like
to start at the beginning? Please?

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yes, thank you. Just a few words about myself. I'm
Daniel from Hungary, Buda quession of you or any mentioned.
I'm thirty two years old now. I was born in
nineteen ninety, just at the end of the Soviet occupation.
That meant that we were able to get our hands
on best the media including covies, books and whatnot about

(24:51):
the bidden topic in the during the Suvit occupation, So
it was pretty easy for me and also for my
family to get stop it. My mom especially, she was
always really keen on identified saying gray aliens, the what map,
So that just sets the tone. Let me start with

(25:14):
the first account that I have. I was probably six
at the time, so the summer of nineteen ninety six.
I only have really blurry memories about the Sisson, but
I have checked on my mom to ask for out
and our memories are the same as this. So the
way it went down, it was a summer evening, a Tuesday,

(25:37):
that's the player already later, which is a Tuesday, and
my sister had a friend over. We were just hanging out,
what to do in a small town. We've looked out
the window and just about the horizon, my mom started
two red dots. Not an airplane, definitely not an airplane
because they were static. They were just hanging there at

(25:59):
the sky. So, yeah, does come look at that? What
is that? We were all standing in the windows, standing
on the balcony and watching those two red dots. Then
they somehow started to ship colors from red to kind
of warm white, like like light bulbs. But no fixed

(26:19):
structure was there. I mean, I lived there for two decades.
I know that it was just pure sky that we
were looking at. And as they were switching their colors,
as we were getting kind of suspicions what they can eat?
And they started to move in a kind of erratic way,
just bumping from one point to another, switching places, switching colors.

(26:46):
I mean, it was just extraordinary. We couldn't figure out
what they were. We all, of course had some regular explanations,
like us have been a helicopter or what, No, it
was the helicopter. Helicopters have blinking light as well, Yet
the thing somehow vanished from the sky. I really only
have take memories of this, but one thing I forgot,

(27:08):
but my mom will remembered that it was a Tuesday.
From then on, she was looking out the window constantly
every single night for hours and hours. And the following Tuesday,
the craft appeared again, did just the same thing again

(27:28):
and disappeared. Of course, my mom lost her mind and
she was staring out of the window even more, even longer,
just to spot these things again. They never reappeared, But
that was the first time when quose related saw something unexplainable.
Just to give a little more background, I was an

(27:51):
aeronautics and aliatics and whatnot enthusiast from a really early age.
I knew what her a playing looks like, what kind
of the flights it has green under righting red on
the left wing and so so on and so forth.
So I could tell the difference, even at a very
young age, between an airplane and unidentified plank contract. I'm

(28:14):
not stating that it's extra terrestrial, but it's definitely not
an airplane. It couldn't have been thrones in nineteen ninety
six in Hungary. I mean weever broke like wow, no
one owned the thrones. Couldn't be really military, couldn't be anything.
I'm identified that. We had nothing more to say about that.

(28:35):
Time went on until the next sighting. It was in
the summer of two thousand and five. We were on
our way to a very different city about one hundred
and fifty kilometers that's less than one hundred miles away.
The bus started its journey in the dard hours, so

(28:56):
it was practically dark when it went off, and at
the break of dawn Peo were at the height of Tomashy.
It's minor city in Hungary. Not much to say about it.
But as the bus went on between the hills, my
mom or my dad can't remember, but it's something the

(29:17):
sky that wasn't there before. It was really strong, cold
white light. As people were looking at it, because it
didn't look like any of the stars. Didn't look like
anything appeared from basically over. As we were looking at it,
started to have to say it morph from a dot

(29:37):
to a line. At that time I thought it was
morphing itself. But later I came to the conclusion a
conclusion that it must have been a cigar shaped object.
And at first we will look in it from the
tip and as the boss went on and made its
way through the hills, because take a look it from

(30:00):
the side as well. That is why it became a lie.
The weird thing is that my dad had his camera
with him. It was a pretty vintage piece by that time.
It looked like some kind of military equipment to put
really huge. Some people thought that he was from the

(30:23):
State TV or whatnot, because that thing was really huge.
It was high end technology back then. It recorded directly
to the VH State in a really nice way, gave
a pretty good picture. At the end, he thought gotta
take a video of it. He took out the camera

(30:45):
soomed in and tried to switch the thing on, and
it didn't switch on. He pushed the power button on
and on and on and on again. Nothing. The battery
was completely loaded because that's how he operates his precise man.
The tape was empty, then again, he's a precise man,

(31:08):
and the thing didn't manage to turn on. As the
Boss went on between the hills, made a few turns
and the lost side of this object in the sky,
and suddenly the camera turned on. So we have fantastic
pictures of the dawn sky and nothing else. It still

(31:30):
gives some good dumps. How how that is possible. I
don't know if there's any logical explanation for a purely
electronic device not to turn on then pointed on an
unidentified fine object, but it happened. And break my heart
that we had the footage of that craft because it
looks awesome. I've sent you a reconstruction about that as well.

(31:54):
It's pretty accurate. I've managed to find the exact location
on the Google treat you and also the type of
the boss sitting because I'm kind of a nerve about
public transport. So that was the second sighting that I
have really clear memory thought. The third sighting that I
would like to speak about doesn't belong to me. It's

(32:19):
from my wife. Back then I didn't know her, but
at the beginning of her relationship. She told me this.
The strange thing is that it must have been so extraordinary.
I couldn't grasp it why she wasn't out of her mind.
And when she saw that, she was on a train
to a larger city named Pitch that's in the south

(32:40):
part of Hungary. The train goes around the Magic Mountains,
beautiful area really recommended for everyone who's going to Hungary,
and she was staying the other at the wind though
she saw something that she just described as three bladed
fan with an almost brushed like metallic surface. What she

(33:04):
thought initially is that it's wind generator, And she thought,
what moron puts a wind generator in a valley between
the hills, Because this thing was rotating blockwise, not really
not really fast, but visibly rotating, and that she was
just tearing out at this thing she thought was the generator.

(33:27):
This object turned vertically and flew away, and she couldn't
figure out what the heck that could have been, because
the generator doesn't fly away, no known man made flying
object behaves like behaves like that, and the whole thing

(33:48):
was just unexplainable. And what I wrote you in my
emails when I was listening to episode one of seven.
A lady spoke there described a really similar object that
she encountered into the woods. It's it's pretty eerie. I
kind of said that I wasn't part of the citing,

(34:11):
but but yeah, it was. It was something. It must
have been something. What she told me that the thing
was hovering about the ground really close, really really close
to the ground. It's almost touched it. And the time
diameter was like a two story house, and she said
it must have been approximately ten feet if I had

(34:33):
have to say something, because it was not that high
like a two story house. It was like one story
house plus roof, common hungary and the concept of building houses,
so it was not a large object. But it's still
hot breath. What that must have been. Going on to

(34:54):
spring twenty ten, I was with my wife then to
old friend. We were kind kind of dating, getting to
know each other, and we used to hang out at
an Embeddan factory in our hometown web which had a
pretty neat water tower approximately one hundred feet high. No
one gave them about what we were doing there. Pretty

(35:16):
ideal for a couple in their late scenes to hang out,
and we were just hitting up at the top of
that water tower one evening. It's a pitch black keeping
it's very nice. It's a stitch black and as we
were looking out on the surrounding fields, it discovered strange

(35:37):
white orb that is snding from ground level. It's made
a perfect quarter circle trajectory and to away them horizontally.
No man made device makes that. An airplane has a
very different trajectory. A helicopter doesn't have to make a

(35:58):
quarter circle and lift itself up vertically. Really can't tell
what that was, but as far as I know, it
was unidentifying and flying and probably an object, so I
must say it's a It was pretty far away from us,
approximately two kilometers that's a bit more than one mile,
and the diameter hard to say. I would say ten feet.

(36:24):
Really can't tell, and the height it was flying was
probably five hundred feet. It just got lost on the horizon,
disappeared behind the tree line. So no such movements or
anything like that was discovered. It was just taking off
from a nearby field called by Globe. Moving on to

(36:45):
the next one, that's one of my favorites. It was
page the aforementioned city September twenty ten. My wife back
then girl friends went to college there, and I was
there helping her in and pick up that that's a
concert by some really small bands. They doesn't even exist anymore,

(37:08):
the concept of the tiny. It's just outdoors, which was
nice the hill side, approximately fifty to one hundred people
over there, but really it's a small gig.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
It was.

Speaker 1 (37:22):
Quite the evening. The sky was this purplish grayish shade,
and as they were just sitting there on the hillside,
people around us started say out what is that and
what is that the sky? As we looked up we
saw a really bright orange orb, and then another, and

(37:43):
then another. In total there were five orbs flying in
an almost perfect alignment behind each other at a rapid space,
and they were really bright orange. People say to these
orange lights that they are only Chinese lanterns, or those

(38:06):
lanterns people use a weddings or whatnot. But I have
seen Chinese lanterns standing close to them from a distance.
Whatever they flicker, they bound. These things had a really
heavy glow, really bright orange glow, and that kept on

(38:29):
right until we lost contact with them. When they went
down the horizon. It's such a long path for a
Chinese lantern to go. They would just burn out. Until
then these things had their own light sources. It wasn't
a candle or any lit oil or something like that.

(38:50):
These things were really bright and moving at a rapid pace.
And it's been a mass sighting because basically the whole
concerts saw that. Because of that reason, when I got home,
I thought, well, let's do Google search about it. Maybe
there are some accounts about that, and I found them

(39:13):
from a year before that when one of the council
members of the Hungarian Flight Association was attempting a wedding
and basically saw the same thing, and people also claimed that, oh,
those must have been Chinese lanterns wedding lanterns, and come on,
the guys from the Hungarian Flight Association, he can tell

(39:36):
a Chinese lantern from an identified flying object or a
man made plane or anything. So I felt quite verified
about that sighting. These things, if I had to estimate,
were flying at about five hundred feet pretty bos well,
and they each had a diameter of ten feet. But

(39:58):
it's really hard to tell because these are just works
of light and you can see a craft or anything
like that. They were absolutely silent, nothing to really help
the guests moving on it's another orange light in my hometown, Gobleware.
It was the nineteenth of March twenty eleventh, my birthday. Actually,

(40:23):
we were going to at hoc birthday party. My friends
were throwing me really lovely people because it's the spring.
It's pitch black at seven o'clock. Already at seventy am.
It was just living my parents' home. Then they looked
up at the sky and so a really bright orange light.

(40:46):
Again I couldn't say we were used to that, but
we just said, oh, another one. And as we were
staring at it, my then girlfriend now wife yelled at
you can see the craft. I was like, whoa, what
do you mean? What craft? I can only see the light. No, no, no,
look behind it. It's fair. And as I was focusing

(41:10):
on the night sky that wasn't you know that black?
It was kind of a really really really dark gray.
You could see a black elliptical shape behind that orange light.
I was mesmerized because that was the first time that

(41:30):
I have actually saw something solid moving in the sky
that I cannot explain. The thing went from west to
east as rapid spaces, and it went all over the sky.
We last conducted it when it went behind the rooftops.

(41:51):
There were a few other people on the street that
they didn't give them about it. As usual, people tend
to look before their feet, not the fellow over. They
aren't looking at the sky even if they if you
bag them too. So the thing was pretty stunning because
you could actually see some some craft, a solid thing

(42:14):
omitting that light at the front of it. I tried
to make a reconstructional picture about that, tried to grasp it.
It's like ninety percent accurate. The street lights were much
dimmer back then. They were renewed a few years ago
and they are kind of blinding now, but back then
the whole city was darker. Reach is easier to spot

(42:37):
something in the sky. I don't have to tell you that.
But when we arrived at the party, I screamed up.
I saw a UFO and all of my friends. So yeah, yeah, yeah,
I know you do all the time. Come on, sit down,
have a drinks. So USO empathy as usual going on.
We are in the year of twenty eleven, twenty of June.

(43:01):
I know because I have the state stamp on the
picture that I was trying to take of what I saw.
I was on the train from a Dombobat to Budapest,
the capital where I let down. It was the break
of dawn and I was at the height of Tomashi,
where where the second sighting from the summer two thousand

(43:22):
and five plates. So I was just staring out the
window of the train. I saw a cold white light
hanging in the sky. First I thought, huh, business is
still up? Should be and not there. I looked around.
I saw no other sleecial objects, bodies. It was really

(43:48):
at the brain. We were getting from dawn the morning,
so it's the night sky was It was already pretty
bright in the morning, so starts shouldn't be visible at
that point. Then I thought, okay, it must see a
reflection on the window of the train, so I pulled
the window down. It's still there. Okay, it's still there.

(44:14):
I was solely arranged. I had to ask a fellow passenger, sorry,
did you see that white lights in the sky?

Speaker 3 (44:21):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (44:22):
I do, okay, so I'm not crazy. I was released. Okay.
I had my camera with me back then all the time.
It is a pretty deat compact camera, but sometimes of opticals,
do you know, the usual stuff? Back then in twenty eleven,
I tried to take a picture of it, and as

(44:43):
I checked it back on the display, nothing can be
I see the other passenger season I tried to take
another picture, and then another, and then another, and now
I have four beautiful pictures from a nearby hillside and
the morning sky and nothing of that bright, cold white orb.

(45:07):
I don't know how they can manage that to get
caught on camera, but they do. I even try to
distort these pictures in different ways in a photoshop, so
maybe there's a glitch in the pixels. There must be something.
I saw it with my own eyes. A fellow passengers
slow it as well. How come my camera doe? And

(45:28):
it didn't About the size and height, I would say
it was about one mile away from me at one
thousand feet height and had a diameter of ten to
twenty feet. Really hottel esthetic. It was just hanging in
the sky and then suddenly disappeared, just burned out. It
wasn't there anymore. Moving on. In the same year, twenty eleven,

(45:52):
it was the twentieth of August. It's a national holiday
in Hungary. That's pretty much going on. We are celebrating
our one thousand year old country and sup forth giant fireworks,
usual field, and my wife was on her way to
meet me in a busta. I was coming home from

(46:13):
somewhere else and she was running down the stairs of
our the best apartment. She looked out of the window
staircase and so five orange warps flying from west to
east at her rampid space in a formation. The first

(46:36):
three warps formed a triangle and the latter two warps
followed them. It looked like a perfect arrow shape. They
stayed in that formation the whole time. She was able
to keep to the whole complex with it, and they
didn't stop places. They were just flying that way. What

(46:58):
is interesting with this west to east flight, that is
that winds in Budapest usually blows from the north to
the south. It is extremely rare that we have west
to east winds. It wasn't west east and probably that
day as well. I have to check it. But there's
a really minimore chance of that. So these things were

(47:21):
flying on their own power. Couldn't be in pennye lanterns
of our wedding lanterns and what not again, because they
had very different way of movements, just keeping their formation
and up bouncing all over the place, and they had
a really heavy glow. Again. There's one more that I

(47:41):
would like to talk about. It happened to me just
recently while after I wrote to my you know. It
was on the first of July two thousand twenty one.
It was rainy day, some thunderstorms came in the night time.
Kind of looked up on the photographs of lightnings because

(48:02):
they're awesome. They are. And I was on our balcony
with my tripod and okay, just philly smart phones that
makes pretty good pictures. I took long exposure pictures of
the sky, some pretty bad. The other search is rubbish.
But as I was making these pictures, taking such a
picture takes at least ten minutes, I was just standing

(48:26):
at the sky because why not keep watching the sky,
And from from the edge of my eye, I saw
the white flash just in the in the middle of
the sky. I looked there and I saw a really
blurry flight dot in the in the sky, just moving

(48:47):
at asteticse Okay, never mind, could be anything, set of life,
I don't know. And then I saw another really strong
white flash like someone used the camera on the rooftop
of the neighboring house. It's really hard. And as I
looked there, I saw that white swarp hanging in the sky.

(49:11):
I had my phone with me, I had my tripod
with me. I zoomed in at it and just started
to say, please stay there, please stay there, let me
take a picture, please please please, let me just left me.
I started the exposure, and as I finished, that thing
just blanked out, and I was excited to see the picture.

(49:34):
And it's loading and loading and still loading. Okay, let's
take another one, just from the sky. It appeared perfectly.
Another one. It appeared perfectly. Okay, that's the picture of
the legend UFO. It's still loading, and it is still

(49:54):
loading on my phone to this day, no one can
tell how that is possible. I have even sent an
email to the manufacturer about some text support how to
make a picture stop loading. They can't tell what they
are facing, because no, that shouldn't happen. I have pushed

(50:16):
the button, Yes, started the exposure. Yes, I have pushed
it again. Yes, finished the exposure. Yes, then it should appear.
And it doesn't appear still to this day, not even
on my computer. I sent the email uploaded through data table. Nothing.
It's unbelievable for me how these things can solve that

(50:38):
not to appear on digital photographs. So basically that's all
about my most relevant sighting.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
Great job, Daniel, thank you, And that photograph is still
loading to this day.

Speaker 1 (50:53):
Yes, yes, it's still just running circles, you know, that
little gray whatnot on a blank white background. I took
several screenshots of it. Maybe it's just it's a visualization
error or something. No, it's not existent. I took the
photographs and it's still loading. And it was the first

(51:13):
of July twenty twenty two.

Speaker 4 (51:15):
They don't seem to like to be filmed sometimes.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
And I even begged them to let me, but it
seems that I wasn't allowed to do it this time,
and my father wasn't allowed to do it in two
thousand and five, and I also wasn't allowed to do
it in twenty eleven with that white warm from the train.
I don't know how people manage to get these things
on camera. I mean, if they have some system to

(51:40):
block these devices from taking the picture from them, I
don't know, if they have specific measurement that's taken, then
they notice that people are trying to make photographs of them.
Because sometimes I see excellent pictures and they are impossible
to debunk. There they are real, they must be real.
Other times, I have no, no freaking luck with it.

Speaker 4 (52:01):
And I think a lot of people can relate to this.
I mean, these days everyone has a camera, but you know,
these days it's all on the phone. And these camera phones,
even though they're quite you know, they're relatively high tech,
they're not great for taking pictures of objects in the
sky from a distance. You know, they just come out
as like little dots or blurry, or people tend to

(52:22):
focus a little bit too much.

Speaker 5 (52:24):
You know.

Speaker 4 (52:24):
I've heard it endless amount of times where people have
tried taking pictures and either the camera doesn't work the
batteries run out.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
So it's strange, Yes, And I was thinking about that,
you know, the good old days and the use the
cameras films in them. That's a completely electronics free system.
Light entered it and it's made the mark on the film.
It must have been helpful, lot easier to take pictures

(52:51):
back then because you cannot block that kind of technology.
That's basic technology.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
That's the thing that those days was. Not everybody had
those cameras, and not certainly not everyone who's carrying them
around with us. I see what you're saying there. You know,
if people can get their hands on the old type
of film cameras, and you might have a little bit
more success taking pictures of these objects than you do
with your camera phone.

Speaker 1 (53:15):
Yes, And whenever I talk with skeptics, they always have
this argument that how come that no one ever took
a decent photograph of a UFO. We have ten twenty
forty whatnot megapixel camera phones and no decent photographs. How

(53:36):
come I cannot think of any other solution. That they
are just simply blocking these devices.

Speaker 4 (53:43):
That would certainly make a lot of sense. And I
think a lot of people when they do get, you know,
relatively good video or pictures, a lot of it is luck.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Yes, maybe they take those pictures undetected, or I don't
know if if it's blocking, if I make it like
that applies to every device in the area, or only
those that are deliberately trying to take a photograph of
their of their craft or something. I don't know, but

(54:13):
that's the only thing that I can think of. And
myself and my father also tried to take pictures of
these things at least three times that I have just
told you and nothing, the device won't turn on, or
the real nothing visible, or the picture will fload. I'm
kind of a bad luck Brian. I don't know.

Speaker 4 (54:34):
I mean, like like you said, you know, I mean
you obviously know what you're doing when it comes to
a camera because you know you do DSL for the
photography with lightning, Okay, so you've got to know what
you're doing with that. Your father knew what he was doing,
so there's no chance that you know, he would forget
to put the factors in or be dead. So it's frustrating.
I know, it's how frustrating it can be for people.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
It is, it is. Indeed, I also have a pair
normal one than I wanted to talk about. If we
still have the time.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
I certainly do. Let's hear it, Daniel, Thank you, Nick.

Speaker 1 (55:06):
So this thing occurred on the eighteenth of July two
thousand and eight. I also have photographs of the place.
That is why I can tell you the exact dates.
In an abandon railway repair shop in the Best Hungary.
And we we were just hanging out to the few
railway into ts I'm one of them as well, and

(55:28):
as we were just ramping all over the place. I
started to take a peek into more I don't know, offices,
workshops and in the distant edge for larger building. It's
the whole place is really eerie to us. The abandoned
trains all over shadow glass. I mean, it's magnificent if

(55:49):
you're into the urban exploration thing. And also if you're
a railway into theF because you'll seel railway vehicles and
you can go close to them and they are rusty
and they look like and it's awesome. So as I
was wandering around the area, I stepped into a workshop.
Yeah yeah, yeah, that's ropping. I stepped into the other one.

(56:12):
This one's rupping as well, And I was going around
like that. As I stepped into one specific such room,
it was it's really hard to grasp what it was.
I fund like someone stepped on my chest, or if
someone was trying to push the air out of my lungs.
And while that happened, it seemed like twenty these people

(56:35):
were talking to me at the same time, like I
was dropped in the middle of a parliament debate. It
was really heart to grasp what that was. But that pain,
that the pressure in the chest I one hundred percent
sure that I fell that and those the sounds I
couldn't make out any words, felt like they were speaking Hungarian,
because you know, Hungarian has a really specific rhythm and

(56:58):
a pronunciation to it. One of the hardest languages on earth,
and I do not envy anyone who tries to learn that.
But it sounded like Hungarian, but spoken by many tough people.
And I had this transition. I jumped back. I'm not
a sportsman, but I have probably jumped back three meters

(57:19):
from a standing positions. And I don't know why that.
I have decided not to take another step into the
direction of that room. With my present brain and not
the brain of the eighteen year old self, I would
have gone back into that room again and started to
figure out what that is, what am I experiencing. But yeah,

(57:42):
it's just just pretty eerie and places like super abandoned.
It's just an industrial facility. I don't know how many
people had different accidents there that may have even caused
their lives because attacked in the Second World War, the
bod that are really heavy by the all, it's probably
again many people die there during that period. And the

(58:04):
whole thing is it's just creepy. I have sent you
a picture just to get the atmosphere of the place.
The picture was taken on the that specific date, but
I haven't taken a picture of that room. I didn't
go back, and few years later, when I had a
possibility vivid that so called trained raveyard again, I went

(58:26):
through all rooms, and of course that was a once
in a lifetime thing, and it freaked me out and
I escaped. I feel sorry for that because I am
quite a believer of these things, both parenormal, the ghost rolls,
the extra terrestrials, the u both the everything. It's like
questioning the existence of a higher power. Yes, you can

(58:49):
stay as material as one. That gives me one reason
these things can't exist, and if they can exist, they
probably do. Take a look at this best universe, that element,
and no man in their actions sciente can that we
are alone and the only real experience you get have
in this world is what we see around us, this

(59:10):
material world. Such now mindedness that that I cannot understand.
And plenty of people that I tried to talk with
about this subject showed these symptoms how to product. They
are just not feeling tough this topic because it's not
something you can put your hand on, it's not something
you can own, it's not something in the material world.
So it's creepy. For it's creepy, Let's just say it

(59:33):
doesn't exist and everything's back to normal.

Speaker 4 (59:36):
That's all true words spoken by Daniel. You're absolutely right.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
Thank you, Nick, Thank you Nicks.

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Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
Just another short thought, I was really shocked by any
of your guests when they talked about undescribable fear of
the gray aliens until a few weeks ago, when I
started to really be into your podcast, I thought that
I'm crazy that I have unexplainable fear of the gray
aliens because I had it ever since I was a

(01:00:47):
small child. I have plenty of pretty bed Sobiete I'm
afraid of dead birds. That's that take any sense. It doesn't.
But still when I see one, I screamed and I jump.
But if I had to look at it, I mean,
that's sick. But if I had to look at it,
I could not be the grace. I tried a kind

(01:01:07):
of a stresterpy on myself, looking at three D animations,
looking at pictures, artistic renders, anything, and I cannot keep
looking at the gray aliens. I don't know what is
wrong with me. I have zero memories about every encounter one,
but they are just freaking me out. And I just

(01:01:29):
believe to hear that other people have similar symptoms as well.

Speaker 4 (01:01:33):
Indeed, you know the only one, Daniel.

Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
And if I could ask anything from a higher power,
I don't really give them about the meaning of life
because it's forty two be all of that or what's
in the afterlife, I don't know. I will get get there.
Sometimes I really don't worry about that, but I would

(01:01:57):
really want to be said why. And plenty of others
are deeply scared and terrified by the Gray Aliens, and
the people who are abductees tell them they're nice or
at least neutral. They don't harm you. They have this
kind of positive vibe or relaxing vibe. I don't know.

(01:02:18):
Whenever I see a picture, I just scream and run away,
or close my eyes or crawl really fat chest over
rolled my phone. I don't know. I would really love
to know that why people have this unexplainable fear.

Speaker 4 (01:02:33):
You can certainly tell you're a Douglas Adams fan forty two.

Speaker 1 (01:02:38):
It is indeed.

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
Absolutely right what's going on in the skies of Hungary.
It seems a very active place. There must be countless
of sightings in Hungary that we don't hear about.

Speaker 1 (01:02:50):
Well, yes, it is, it is. It is an active place,
and the area of my hometown. I just recently found
the map showing possible UFO activity. On the map is
different sizes of gray alien heads marking the more or
less active areas. I was kind of devastated by that.
But whatever it is, it is an active area. It's

(01:03:12):
really hard to tell what is true and what is
only made up, but I'm pretty convinced by my own sightings.
There are some really strange people, rock musicians and other
deranged minds who claim that they are abducted. Multiple abductives
and they are laughing. Matter. That's also pretty bad thing

(01:03:34):
whenever you start talking about usos with people that okay, okay,
so just like that rock singer abductive as well, do
they come for you now? Do you see them now?

Speaker 5 (01:03:46):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:03:46):
I don't. It's terrible how how people can use the
subject for their own own purposes, probably getting a few
articles in Low Dear Table or whatnot. But yes, in total,
Hungary is kind of active, and mostly the mountainous regions.
We have a pretty big lake called Poloton the northern

(01:04:10):
side of it, the so called Bacon Mountains that is
definitely a hot spot. And like my next friend of mine,
I planning the visits there in the early autumn, just
looking up at the sky and probably shifting up hands.
If there's some place where it's like to be something explainable, unidentifying,

(01:04:31):
then it's death place the bugo. So so yeah, plenty
of things going on. Commercially. Airplane pilots have some sightings,
of course, they only talk about that after they are tired.
Air Force pilots have their own sidings, and people slowly
but surely are coming forward with this. So I hope
in a few years there will be some change of

(01:04:54):
side in this topic, not a in the world, but
also in Hungary. Some silest classic by us as well,
and there are some accounts, mostly military that might raise eyebrows.
As far as I know, the book was only published
in Hungarian about the Hungarian UFIO files. I will get
in contact with the author, maybe she can get it

(01:05:16):
translated by somewhat who's qualified enough for to do it
in an adequate manner, and maybe people in Hungary and
outside of Hungary as well would start looking at the
Hungarian skies more often. My sister, she's also pretty much
into this topic. She also had a book called Ufo
en Psyclopedia with a gray alien on its cover. I

(01:05:39):
was terrified all the time, but yeah, I read it
several times. Also a twotist, and probably got my institution
from her party. And we just had a chat and
she has been, how come you always see these things
and I see nothing? After Are you watching the skies?
She was like, no, then maybe you should because they

(01:06:03):
are there. And just as I said that, something just
blinked out in the corner of my left eye. Usual things.
So you get just by looking at the sky you
can see a handful of unexplainable. Things that aren't satellites,
aren't airplanes or helicopters or any type of man made things,

(01:06:24):
aren't drones, especially because today, whenever you see something unexplainable,
people just say, oh, drones, they are drones. Now I
can tell a drone from something that's unidentified.

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
So yeah, you're absolutely right. You know, if you're not
watching the skies, you're not going to see anything. So
you're absolutely right. You know, if you're watching the skies,
there's a lot of amazing things to see. And you're right.
The tide is changing around the world and hopefully in
Hungry as well. I know I have a lot of
listeners in Hungary. I know you're right there. Get in contact.

(01:06:58):
I want to hear your sighting experiences, and especially if
you're military, if you know, if you've involved in the military,
you're a civilian pilot, also get in touch. It's like
a family affair. You know, your sister is interested, you're interested,
your father was taking pictures. Your mother was obviously interested
because you spent how many nights out there on a
balcony watching the skies.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Yes, my mother is obsessed. She's completely obsessed with and
it's really developed such an interest about this topic in
a family where people are interested in it and not
agnostic rather skeptic. So yeah, that was a huge help
if I made put it that way.

Speaker 4 (01:07:39):
And Hungary in general, is there much interest in this subject?
I mean, do you see reports on the news and newspapers.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
No, not really, the low tier tabloids and really bessy
commercial TV shows sometimes they cant this topic. We also
have a UFO megazine in a year that is just
simply rubbish. They're thoughts he had that land that translates
to incredible magazine rubbish as well. It still feels like
we are in the nineties just exploring this thing, and

(01:08:10):
there's very little serious matter in the subject. So it
will probably still take a few years for authors, experiences
maybe abductees to come forward in a fashion that the
people will take them seriously at least a bit, because,
as I told you, some deranged the rock stars here

(01:08:33):
use the think abduction as a matter to their personal fame,
as a road away to their personal fame, and I'm
convinced that these people were never abducted, so.

Speaker 4 (01:08:46):
They basically use it as a form of publicity.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
A form of publicity gaining clouds and making a full
of themselves of course, and just making this whole subject
matter a joke. That is why I'm extremely angry about it.

Speaker 6 (01:09:01):
Yeah, it's a shame.

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
There are people out there that do that, and it's
bad because the people that I've really had these experiences,
they don't want to come forward because they will feel,
you know, they will be ridiculed and made a joke
of Yes, because of Charlatan's and people which are obscuring
the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:09:17):
Yes, indeed, And whenever, whenever I try to talk to
people about my sightings, they're all like, okay, miss me
with the shit, non Na, I don't care. I don't care.
Go to that rock musician and hold hands with each other.
I don't care. And that's epicity. To get over with
it and or ignorance. It will take many years, many

(01:09:37):
years of hard and honest work from people who really
believe they're all night.

Speaker 4 (01:09:42):
Absolutely, the tide is changing. We need more people coming forward.
We need journalists that are going to report on these
things in a proper manner, not as a joke. They
don't have a picture of a stuffed alien or or
anything from the X Files on the front of the
newspaper or magazine. It needs to be and looked as seriously,
and it has to be looked at by scientists in

(01:10:03):
your country as well, and we need pilots coming forward.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
Yes, yes, Whenever I start talking about citing, someone always
starts with all the X Files theme song.

Speaker 4 (01:10:13):
I've had it done to myself, don't worry, and I
like the X Files.

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Yes, it's awesome. That's still a form of ridicule. Can't
put it any other way. They they just they think
it's still some sci fi nonsense and it has nothing
to do with reality. Yeah, some light in the sky,
there must be an explanation, Yes, there is an explanation.
It's an unidentified flying object. What's more about it?

Speaker 4 (01:10:39):
Exactly? And it's easier for people to point a finger
than to have the finger point at them, So you know,
it's it's a serious subject. And these people all over
the world are having these experiences.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Yes, yes they do. As far as I heard. The
South American country more open minded about all level subject matter.

Speaker 4 (01:10:59):
They are, and they have been for a long time,
especially the military that they are constantly coming out and
saying this happened. This other country is not so much
you know, they like to keep secrets unfortunately, but people
need to be more like you know, the South American
countries and be more open because this is happening, you know,
whether we like you know, whether people like it or not,

(01:11:19):
these things are happening.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
Indeed, and Hungary is also in NATO. So whenever our
military want to maybe leak something down to the public, no,
we're a really strict military life in the United States
and of other countries who are way more than we are.
And yeah, we're not playing seconds, they're playing fifty this

(01:11:42):
whole game. So I really don't see our military coming
forward and standing out on the podium and just yelling
out to the world, Yes, these things are real and
we don't know they are, or maybe we do, but yeah,
it's too early for you. So about that.

Speaker 4 (01:12:00):
This information is not going to be coming out via
the government, you know, they're just going to give you
little tidbits they always will do. This information is going
to come from people, okay, the everyday people, the people
which are interested in the subject, you know. So we
need people coming forward. We need people that were in
the military. You know that obviously if you're in the
military and you had a sight and you never told
anyone come forward, because this is how this stuff comes out,

(01:12:22):
and they will reach a point where the military, the
governments will have no choice but to have to start
turning truth because it's in their face, it's everywhere people
are talking about it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:31):
Well, I really hope so, because really I feel like
something changing again. I have high holder forward the next decade.
I'm not expecting you are thought to end on the
White House lawn and people always say or on the
Pushment square in front of the Hungarian Parliament that I
really have high hopes that you're going to get your

(01:12:51):
picture about what's going on in our sky and you know,
seas in our mountains, because they are everywhere and you
just have to keep our ryes.

Speaker 4 (01:13:00):
We have to keep watching the skies. Daniel. Indeed, good job, Daniel.

Speaker 1 (01:13:04):
Thank you. Nick. It with a pleasure talking to you,
and thank you very much for the opportunity. I'm really
glad that this podcast is running up this way because yeah,
the bird must get out, and I wish you a
lot of power editing all these material and looking forward
to here in videw the episodes, and also if you
could put it in if there are people in my area,

(01:13:25):
mostly people the fashion area the capital who have similar
sightings and are interested in organizing some skywatcher groups. I
would be more than happy to participate in that, and
you can give them my contact.

Speaker 4 (01:13:38):
Wonderful idea, have you got a have you set up
a Facebook account or anything like that yet?

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
I have my personal Facebook page and you can give
them my email address as well.

Speaker 4 (01:13:47):
It's not that personal wonderful Okay. To our Hungarian listeners
out there, if you're interested in meeting up with Daniel
for a SkyWatch and maybe talking about UFOs, I will
put his links below in the description, so you know
you can. You guys can get something together and hopefully
start spreading this information and start getting people interested in

(01:14:11):
the subject in Hungary.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
Thank you very much, lovely, Daniel.

Speaker 4 (01:14:14):
I really appreciate you coming on and sharing that for
our listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Thank you for having Men and Heaven last evening.

Speaker 4 (01:14:19):
You're more than welcome, Daniel, and it was good talking
to you and meeting you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:22):
Daniel. Okay, thank you very much. Nick really appreciate it's
excellent podcast. Good luck with us.

Speaker 4 (01:14:27):
Thank you, Daniel, take care of yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:14:28):
Thank you bye for now.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
Bye, that's all for today. Keep updated and connected with
the show on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram. And if you
have an encounter that you'd like to share on the podcast,
you can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com,
or you can reach out to me via the contact
page on my website at UFO Chronicles podcast dot com.

(01:14:50):
A big thank you to Blast and Daniel for sharing tonight,
and as always, thank you all for listening. I will
be back next week. Till then, stay safe and keep
watching the skies. Goodbye then, st

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