Ep.241 Aliens walk amongst us

Arizona is our destination tonight, as we hear from Don from The Grand Canyon State, about his UFO and paranormal encounters. Dons encounters began as a child and over the years has experienced multiple UFO and orb contact on occasions, and it's something that he shared with his Grandmother as she also had a similar connection.

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Episode Transcript

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I swear to God. Calm inon an unidentified on ject ever Liberty four
calm calm and unidentified flying object,welcome clock on it. Welcome to UFO

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Chronicles, a place where people sharetheir experiences of the strange and unexplained.
If you've had an encounter I wouldlike to be on the show, you
could email me at UFO Chronicles atgmail dot com. Hello everyone, and

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welcome to the show. How areyou all doing. I'm Nick Hunter and
this is the UFO Chronicles podcast.Arizona is our destination tonight as we hear
from Dawn about his UFO and paranormalencounters that he has experienced over the years.
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a description of this episode below.Any help is very much appreciated. Now
on with the show. Hello dotand welcome to the podcast. Hi,

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thank you very much for having meon. It's great to have you with
us today. And you're calling fromthe state of Arizona. Yes, I
am. Now, don't you havesome encounters to share? Would you like
to start the beginning place? Ye? Yes, absolutely. First encounter that
I had had was when I gota divorce and I was living in Connecticut,
and I moved out here with myson to the state of Arizona to

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live with my grandmother. Maybe Ishould give you some background on her.
Like, many months before I actuallymove here, she kept on telling me
that aliens walk amongst us on,you know, and I'm like, I
kind of, you know, tobe honest with you, I thought it
was kind of like the ramblings ofan old lady, like, yeah,

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come on, you know there's aliensthat that can't be true and everything,
and she, you know, kepton insisting, no, No, there
definitely is, and they walk amongstus here. I've seen them. I
think I've actually met people who Ibelieve are aliens. So with that,
I said, well, you know, what, really could I think of
it? You know what I mean, I'm kind of taking my EMA's word

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for her because she was a veryhonest and fourth right person. She was
also very psychic, and uh,you know, I am myself actually,
you know, I have pre commonand a lot of strange things where I
know things are going to happen beforethey actually do. You know. I'll
she's deceased, but to this dayI will still hear her voice sometimes,

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and you know, it's almost sometimesif it's warning, like something bad it's
going to happen, and so it'skind of like heads up from her.
You know, a lot of thissort of thing runs ami heritage, my
mother as well as you know,a very pre cognitive and you know,
she's very good at reading people.You would say, like she meets someone

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and she kind of knows their lifestory without them even saying anything. Scares
a lot of people, you know. So this encounter actually happened in the
year two thousand. I, likeI said, I had just gotten divorced
from my I moved out here atArizona and I started living with her own
apartment and you know, I'm restartingmy loaf over and I awoke, you

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know, out of the bed.My son was laying next to me,
because you know, it was thefirst time I'm there and being in this
apartment with him and with her,and all of a sudden, I had
just felt like something was watching me. It just felt very strange. I
felt off. And when I awoke, it was at three am, and

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for some strange reason, as soonas I awoke, I looked at the
window of the outside of the apartmentcomplex and it had shades, but you
could see the lights behind it,casting you know, into the room.
And there was a being for lackof a better term, in the window,

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and its head was massive. Itactually looked three times bigger than a
human head. The being or thecreature's shadow, had an outline of wires
coming from the left side of itshead and had its right hand with four
very massive elongated fingers, not fiveof like a human being would. It

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was pressed to the glass and itactually looked like it was starting to phase
through the window, but not opening. It just you know, passing through
the window. I screamed, andthe creature is simply vanished, much like
you would see in the movie Predator. That was the only thing I can

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ever liken it too, that thatwas it disappeared exactly like the movie Predator,
when you see the creature just simplyjust zip away. That was really
quite intense and scary for me,and I did not sleep for about two
days after that. The next morning, when I woke up, I talked

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to my grandmother and she smiled atme and sort of leave me and said,
you know, I told you thataliens walk amongst us. It here
in Arizona, eventually I would learnthat the being was there for her and
not me, at least not yet. That initial encounter in the year two
thousand would bring back a memory ofseeing a UFO over a deceased neighbors home

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where I was living in New YorkCity. This was in nineteen eighty and
I was eleven. We had justmoved into an apartment on the corner house
and it was a nice, youknow, apartment and everything like that,
very you know, clean, neatneighborhood. Everything back then it was,

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you know, much different than itis now. The neighbor across the street
had just died the premium night,and I woke to stroking light coming through
my window and at first I thoughtit was the police or an ambulance.
So I opened up the wooden shadea bit and saw a massive spinning top

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of multi colored lights above the oldgermans man's house who just had been deceased,
And it was spinning in sort ofa clock rotation, and it seemed
to be rather big, and thebest way in my young mind was that
it actually looked like a spinning topwith multi colored lights. This incident seemed

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to last about a minute, andyou know in my young mind, I
was in awe and shocked, justyou know, looking at in my mouth.
I'm sure I was a gape.And then I heard a voice say,
everything is okay, go to sleep, and I did just that,
never telling anyone of this experience untilI can fide it in a very good

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friend at the time, and aboutthe year two thousand and fifteen, he
said he believed me because he said, don do you remember when the alien
Grays came and paid us a visitin my apartment? And I was kind
of taken aback, and I said, well, what do you mean?

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And he said to me that hehad a fascination with what you would call
the alien Grays, although unbeknownst tohim, it wasn't really a thing like
it is now on the History Channelwith alien encounters and everything like this.
It was very sort of behind thescenes, I guess you would say.
And from this encounter, I remembergoing to his house and we were playing

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board games. I believe we wereplaying Monopoly and then the Game of Life,
and then you know, all ofa sudden, it seemed like the
whole ceiling had faded away and givenway, and you could actually see through
it out into the open sky,and then I recall very little of that

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what had actually happened, And manyhours had passed, because when this had
happened, it was still daylight,and then a few hours had passed.
It must have been about three hours, and he told me it was time
for me to go home now,and it was dark outside now. After
that encounter in living in Phoenix,Arizona, we actually moved out here to

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Gilbert, Arizona, where my motherhad a house being built and we were
all going to live with her.So after being there for about six months,
my mother wasn't living there, andNeila was my stepfather at the time,
it was just me, myself,my grandmother, and my son.
And I awoke one night, afterI said, being there for about six

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months, to go to the bathroom, and I saw my grandmother at the
bathroom window were looking out into thebackyard and there was a very intense lights
you can see flickering off her facecoming from the back light. And when
she finally noticed me, she said, don come look at this. And

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when I looked outside, there werevarious orbs of light, and some of
them were red, some of themwere green, some of them are very
white, and they were bouncing andzipping across the backyard in all shapes and
sizes, but mostly like balls oflight. I said, oh my god,

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what is that. I can't believewhat are we seeing. Her response
was, I don't know, butI am going to bed. And I
thought that was kind of strange answerto give, because you're seeing this.
So just being up on the secondfloor, I watched for several more more
minutes while these balls were doing theirlittle dance and you know, jigging the

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back yard and zipping and moving around. I was determined to get an answer
and headed downstairs to go out back. I put my shoes on, I
recalled going to the back door,and then nothing else after that. I
woke up a few hours later.I was in my bed, and I
do not recall how I got there, for it happened about midnight, all

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of death, and then it wasabout three o'clock in the morning. The
next thing I knew about a monthafter this incident came what I called the
paralyzation incident. I was asleep onenight and felt there were people entering my
room. As hard as I tried, I could not open my eyes.
I was scared to death and triedto get up. I could not move

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or speak, and I felt likeI was being suffocated. I felt there
at least three or four people orbeings in the room. I struggled,
twisted, but was glued to thebed. In desperation, I said the
lords over and over in my head. After what seemed like forever, I

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thrust upright from the bed. Iimmediately ran to my window and saw a
fast traveling light moving away from thehouse. Speeding away, it got higher
and higher until it hit what lookedlike to be a cluster of stars in
the sky, but in actuality,it really was a cloaked ship. From

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what it looked like to me,it looked like about a football feel long.
It then swirled and shot straight andleft up into the sky. From
there of living in Gilbert, Arizona, we moved into an apartment me my
girlfriend at the time who later onbecame my wife, and my son.

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And one night when we were livingthere, my son said to me,
Dad, please don't go. Ihave a very bad feeling. If you
go tonight, something bad is goingto happen. And I said, no,
no, don't be ridiculous. Weneed the money, It's going to
be okay, and he said,no, Dad, please, I just

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have the worst feeling like something reallybad is going to happen, and said
no, no, I'm gonna go. So as I left, I remember
him crying and having to put himinto the bed with my girlfriend who later
on became my wife at the time. And as I drove that night and

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went to work, I got intoa very bad car accident. I was
hit head on by a drunk driverwoman from a circle K, which is
a convenience store out here. Shehit me head on going about forty five
miles an hour and hit me sohard. When the air bag went off,

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it seemed like time had stopped.That was the best way I can
describe it. And I saw thatthere was this white flash that was above
me. I actually saw the glassmoving in slow motion, like as if

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actually time had stopped, and Istill to this day i'm very perplexed by
that. But as I did Isomething seemed to like shift and everything was
a blank for a bit, andthen I woke up from the initial crash.
The air bag was deployed and Istarted heading towards a brick wall,

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so I started pumping the brakes,but they didn't work, so I actually
smacked into a brick wall. Ihad a subdual hematoma on the left side
of my arm that was about thesize of a football, and my left
side of my chest got impacted fromthe steering wheel. After the initial deployment
of the air bag, I tookthe steering wheel on the ass and my

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chest swelled out to about six seveninches more than what it would be.
I was very hard to breathe,and in front of the vehicles on fire,
I kicked the door open, cameout, and I saw that the
two women who were drunk were,you know, just sitting there dazed.

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Got rushed to a hospital. Andthat's when my son had told me,
when you left, Dad, therewere these massive orbs of white light that
came in and out of the window, and he said, I felt like
they were looking for you, andso I told them go and see my

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father, go help him. Theseorbs of light seemed to be a very
common thing that goes on with mea lot of the times. In my
pictures there will be white orbs oflight, and there's an absolute no reason
why there should be. And avery strange thing was after this car accident,
we had to get a lawyer involved. And when my girlfriend, who

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later on it became my wife atthe time, took these pictures, there
were very strange black lights, almostlike fibers around my wound areas, with
like circles of light in it.And it was extremely strange. And you
know, when she took these pictures, they had to be done, you

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know, professionally, to see howbad the wounds were, you know,
so on so forth, and soagain. There was no explanation why there
was these lights again in the picture, but these were black lights this time.
To me, when I think uponit, it's almost as if that

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what I call the light beings wereusing their gifts to drain this damage out
of my body. So after this, I married my wife and we became
a couple. But I kept onalways feeling that, you know, something
was always watching over me. Andsure enough, during all of this,

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I had, in the year twothousand and seven, an encounter with a
young man at a security job thatI worked, and this was shortly after
the car accident, and this encountertotally changed my life, and to me,
it was one of the strangest thingsthat's probably ever happened in my life,
and I have experienced many strange andparanormal things. One night, while

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I was at work, I wasfeeling rather down and depressed. It was
over a recent court battle with mymom that turned very very ugly, and
had custody of him, you know, and just didn't work out that way.
It turned more or less into avery bad situation. And I'll just

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leave it at that. Anyway,the neighborhood that I worked and was a
very bad neighborhood, full of drugaddicts and homeless. It was truly bad.
So while I was depressed, Istarted praying. At this time I
had become very religious, and ayoung man shortly after my prayers walked up

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on the streets in early twenties.He's wearing an army jacket jeans, and
on his left arm was a patchwith a cross and the number three and
seven. I thought that was odd, especially because there was a very special
numbers for me. It was partof game and very spiritual numbers. At
least for me, they are welland still are. He was actually quite

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handsome looking, with wavy black hairand brown eyes, and for some reasons,
he reminded me of a Greek statuewith his chiseled features. He asked
me if the call center was hiringpeople. I told him probably, but
he would have to wait until Monday, as this was a Saturday, and
on top of that, sometime aftermidnight. He said thanks and asked if

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I believed in God. I saidyes, and he became animated. He
said to me he had just gotout of the desert because he was in
prison for forty days and forty nights. Well, I thought that was instantly
strange, because my mind instantly wentto Jesus and the story of him being
in prison for forty days and fortynight. As we talked, he said

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that while in prison he would readthe Bible to the prisoners, and some
would be violent and crazy. Eventhough they were getting crazy, he would
not stop reading, for he saidto me, some of them were possessed
by the spirit of wickedness. Helooked hungry, and I offered him some
food that I had for lunch.He ate very strangely, his fingers just

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taking little pinches and pieces. Itwas almost as if he didn't know how
to actually eat correctly, which Ifound extremely strange. He stayed with me
the entire night until morning. Hethen said, tell me about your mother
and the tribulations you were going throughwith her. Kind of found that strange
as well, because I didn't mentionanything like that to him. I told

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him how sad I was over thecourt case and spending lots of money on
lawyers, and how it was sounfair because it was not over child visits
with a grandparent. It was reallydoing and saying things about me and my
girlfriend. I would just vile andevil. He then said to me,
very calmly, I will tell youwith some in the Bible that you'll never
forget until the day you die.He said, the wicked show wither and

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rot like blades of grass in thesummer sun. Later on I found out
that that was Some thirty seven,again a number three and seven, which
is always very profound in my life. He said, do you know what
the song meaning. I said somethingto the effect you should not be evil
and trying to be good to people. He said no, and grabbed my

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hand and put it on the leftside of my chest and said, no,
your mother is wicked and she rocksfrom the inside. Later on I
found out out she had lost herleft breast to cancer. That really shocked
me when this gentleman had taken myhand and put it on the exact spot

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where he told my mother was wicked. He repeatedly told me he was an
instrument of God, told me personalthings about myself he should not have known,
especially knowing things about my mother.Seemed to know things about my girlfriend
too. I had no idea howwe actually knew any any of this.
At one point during the night,said while I was sitting down, that

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he could kick me in my rightknee and I cannot provide for my family.
I thought that was really extrange,because that was the right knee that
I had gotten into a bad motorcycleaccident, and for a long time I
walked with a limp. He hadsomewhat of a niahical look on his face.
I calmly said to him, no, you won't do that, and
his demeanor changed and he said,you are not like most men who would

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have attacked me. By now,he said, that's good, you have
a good heart. He kept askingme for cigarettes and I told him I
don't smoke. And I thought,oddly enough, many employees would come out
of this call center at night thatI was a security guard at they would
smoke, but not this night.Not one person came out in the entire

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eight hours that I was there,and again I thought that was extremely strange.
But anyway, I reached into mywallet and gave him my last five
dollars to buy his cigarettes at theseven eleven across the street. The night
started to wind down, and nowhe was very polite, nice charming.
At one point, while I wasmaking my rounds and turned to look where

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he was. I turned and Iwas completely startled and shocked. The young
man who I now saw was aseven foot tall being daised in white they
looked like white robes. He hadthree fiery orbs for his face and an
actual halo is what I could see. He changed back instantly and I rubbed

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my eyes, not really sure ofwhat I saw. He responded rather gleefully
but stern. He said, yousaw my real face, and if you
were to look on it for long, you would fall down and tremble at
the Almighty God. Surprisingly, Inever felt really scared of this man during
the entire time he spent with me. I was more shocked and really had

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a million questions in my head aboutwho this person or things was. As
my night shift went on and itstarted to become morning, he parted ways
with me. His last words tome were, remember don you must wear
the armor of God, and youwere a good man. Everything is going
to be all right. The nextday, I was doing my other job

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there, which was a day porter, cleaning all the garbage on the property,
cleaning the windows, maintaining the entireproperty. I was thinking of him
and how strange the whole encounter was, and how I was grateful to God
that I actually met this man.And the very strange thing about that was
too, is he knew my name, but I never found out what his
name was. Well. As Iwas cleaning up the very first piece of

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trash I picked up was a McDonaldbag with a five dollar dell attached right
next to it, the exact samefive dollars I think that I gave that
man also. What happened after thiswas we moved to Apache Junction. I
quit that job and became a fulltime garbage man. After about three months

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of living in Apache Junction, Arizona, I went outside with my dog Angel,
a Labrador, to go throw theball in the middle of the night,
and there were neighbors that were notvery goes by, so it was
actually a rather large, big backyard, and neighbors were far from the distance,

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not close to each other. Itwas still a very rural part of
Arizona and still is to this day. And so when I went out,
I saw this massive light just shineacross the entire back and then shoot up
into the sky. And I thoughtthat was extremely strange, and my rational
mind thought, well, that's ahelicopter. That's got to be a helicopter,

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and any minute I'm going to seea helicopter come out. But there
was no helicopter. And again itwas the orb of light, except this
one was actually bigger than any otherorb of light I have ever seen.
Fast forward a few months after that, and I'm having a barbecue with my
friend and I'm telling him about thelights that randomly appear in the backyard.

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And he was like, yeah,you know, I don't really believe you
don This doesn't really seemed like that'sthe truth. And I said to him,
no, I'm telling you the truth. So we went into the backyard
and we started barbecuing. Were sittingthere barbecuing and drinking a beer, and
as I'm telling him, no,there's very strange things that go on in
this backyard. A ball of lightabout a softball size floated in between him

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and I. It circled both ofour heads and then shot off into the
sky. He was very scared andswore to me that I was doing something.
That there must have been somebody plantinga light and pushing it around looking
at us and everything. And Isaid, showing on, there is nobody

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around here, nobody is doing anysort of lights and putting that on us.
I'm telling you that there's strange thingsthat go on here. And I
do believe that this is an alienin origin and nature. And he believed
it after that, because he hadseen it, and he actolutely no explanation

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for it and never doubted me again. Also, it was very strange in
that house because you always felt likeyou were watched, and sometimes they would
be at knocking on the door atlike two or three in the morning,
and you would go there and therewould be nobody there. Now what that

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was, I have no idea,but I assume that the what I referred
to, and I have always referredto these beings as the light beings,
because that is what they have toldme what they are, and strange enough
to say how I knew and eventuallyfound out what they were was when I

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started to meditate and commune with themin my backyard while living out in the
path few junction, because the lightswould appear and become more intense and move
around, and I believe that thesebeings are made of light. Around this
time, leave it was two fourteen, I went to the movie The Men
Who Stare at Goats. My wifeand I had wanted to go see this

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movie, and through the entire movie, I kept on hearing the word murkaba,
which is m E r k Ab A h. And I'm saying,
why am I hearing this word murkaba? I don't know what that is,
but it was playing throughout the wholemovie. So I told my wife

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at the time, did you hearthat? Were you listening to that when
they take on saying the word murkaba the entire time throughout the movie?
And she said, dot, Ididn't hear that. I don't know what
you're talking about. So I wenthome looked up on the computer what the
word merkaba was, and it iswhat a human being can use to make

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what you would call a light bodywhen you can travel out to the cosmos.
So now I felt that the lightbeings were conveying a message to me
that they indeed wanted me to dothis thing called the Mrkaba and it's very
old practice in Christianity. Again,I had no knowledge of this, but

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I believe it is something that theyhad implanted in my head and were telling
me about. I went out intothe backyard a few nights after this incident
and communicated with them and told themand asked, if you want me to
do this, what is the ultimategoal of this? And they told me
it was to go out and travelamongst the cosmos. I felt when they

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told me this that they wanted meto go out there but never come back.
And I said to them that Iwould not learn it because I could
not leave my wife and my son. I really wanted to stay with them.
The communications still endured, well,there's still those to this day.

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One night, when I was goingoutside to take out the garbage while
we were living out in this Apachejunction our house, I heard a voice
and it sort of sounded like agirl's electronic voice. It was very strange,
and it was calling Daddy, Daddy. And this was from down in

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a banded lot that was actually abouthalf a mile away from where I had
lived, very desolate, big openlot, and I saw a strange orange
light in there. I was soafraid, though I'm hearing this girl's electronic

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voice that mixed with electronics. Itwas so strange, but I knew it
was like a little girl. SoI became so afraid that I ran inside.
I told my wife about it andI said, I'm not I'm just
definitely afraid right now, and Idon't think I want to go down there.
And she said, okay. Well, my daughter was born four years

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ago, and I believe that thatwas her voice that was calling out to
me all those years ago. Veryvery strange. Again, you know,
more encounters with them. I believelike the light beings is what I would
call them to this day. Thisis going back. This is from part
of my journal. When I tookmy dog out for a walk last night,

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I was thinking about the light beingsand how they watch over and protect
me. As soon as I thoughtthat and passed onto a street light,
the light turned like a strobe lightand flickered crazy. I then felt like
I was being watched and got severechills. As soon as I got out
from under the light and it stopped, I turned around the corner and there

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was a white cat looking at theboth of us. And they're very strange.
I have also survived mersa and staffthat I got when I was a
garbage man, and this is whenI met the woman Mary. I am
also a diabetic top of all ofthis, so I should preface by say
that I was very sick and staffso I got from being a garbage man.

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I had a massive node on myleft ribs cists and a fever one
hundred and two degrees. I wentinto urging here and my blood sugar was
four hundred. I was so deadlysick that they told me to immediately go
to the hospital. I did,and then they put me in a room,
ran a bunch of tests and said, well, now you have staff,

(34:30):
so you have to be put offinto a room and we have to
quarantine you away from other people.I did, and I got operated on
and went through massive, massive problemswith a giant moon back on the left
side of my body, and beingvery sick and very ill, and I

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thought I was going to die.I was in fever and very sick,
very ill, for like a amonth in that hospital. And one night,
while I was sick and laying inbed with a wound back to my
side and just sheer and utter pain, knock came on the door and my

(35:13):
wife answered it and she said,don there's a woman named Mary here to
see you. And I thought thatwas very strange because my grandmother's name was
married, so I said, lether in. As soon as she entered
the door, she gave off aglowing light everywhere. She was just radiant.

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She was an older lady with sandyblonde hair, and she just you
could light and giving off of herShe exuded everywhere on her body. I
was very taken aback when she camein and started crying. And she immediately
came to my side and said,don why are you crying? And I

(35:59):
said, because I know you're hereto heal me, and I know you're
going to help me. This incidenthappened in twenty thirteen. And she said,
yes, I'm going to help you. And she said some prayers over
me and gave me the Eucharist,and when she did, I felt this
instant burning sensation in my esophagus.And we talked a little while longer,

(36:22):
and I said, well, Mary, could I ever see you again?
And she goes, no, no, not anytime soon, but one day
you will. And I thought thatwas kind of strange that I would never
see her again, you know,because she seemed like a genuinely nice lady.
Maybe we could pray together, justtalk and you know, and again,

(36:42):
very nice lady. But I thoughtit was rather strange. So with
that in mind, I said tomy wife Jennifer and my son Dakota,
who was there, I said,when you come up tomorrow, we should
go down to the chapel and thankthe father for sending it up Mary,
and they said okay. So theycame up the next day and they said

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to me, you know, thepriest at the chapel looked really strange because
we described Mary to him and wesaid what she looked like, and he
went through all the denominations in hisledger and said there was nobody there whoever
fit that description and who looked likeher. So again, another strange person

(37:30):
who came into my life and rescuedme from what seemed like clutches of death
and very sick. I've been avery blessed man my entire life and seemed
a lot of strange and paranormal things. Nick, I say the truth.
You know, some of it isreally very hard for people to swallow,

(37:50):
you know what I mean. Ican tell you other things, right.
My mother when she gave birth tome, was also very strange. Like
I said, you know, therewasn't my family where people are very psychic.
And I do believe that my motheris unaware of her connection to what
I refer to as the light beings. And you know, it'll be really

(38:15):
funny sometimes I assume this is apart of it. I'll think about you
know them and be like, oh, yeah, you know, it's the
light beings, And all of asudden, on this other UFO group I
belong to, Nancy Thames, it'stime for a disclosure. This woman says,
verbate them exactly pretty much what I'msaying, except they told her that

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they were called the light bodies,and I'm like, well, to me,
they call the light beings. Butthat's pretty much the same thing.
You know, my mother she'll oftenhave these strange red triangular marks on her
hand, and when she comes closeto me, you know it, she

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says, its like and I'm like, well, what do you mean it
burn? She goes, I justfeel intense when I get close to you.
And you know, we've repaired ourrelationship where it was a very destructful,
statistic personality towards one another. ButI think now it's at a better
stage and we can talk about things, and a lot of the things that

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she's told me that she has livedthrough as well. To me, always
seems like it's been intervention. Now, whether this is you know, you
would say, a religious aspect ofthis or a paranormal aspect, it runs
within the same circle and it leadsback to the same thing with these creatures

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or incidents. Well, and bythe way, the creature that this is
a feeling that I've gotten through meditationas well as just knowing that creature that
I initially saw in the phoenix myapartment with my hambler and my son,
I believe that was some sort sortof an AI that it actually wasn't like

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it was sent by them. Inother words, that it was some sort
of a servant to I don't know, watch and that's why it had those
wires sticking out of its ears thenlike that. So that is the only
conclusion that I can come to aboutthat, because you know, after you

(40:27):
sit here and you think about thesethings that happened to you, and you
say, I don't think a lotof people go through this, or well
maybe they do, but they don'ttalk about it. You know. I
should also say I had weird mutationsin my blood. And how I actually

(40:47):
found this out was five years ago, I had a stroke. I had
a blood clot in my brain thatwas the size of a half dollar and
I probably shouldn't have lived. Iwas. They told my wife that I
probably had a ten percent chance tolive with the size of the massive clot

(41:10):
that it was and if I didlive that I was going to be a
vegetable or a basket case that Iwouldn't be able to, you know,
maybe tie my own shoes or anythinglike that. Well, it was very
strange. Again, but when Ihad this stroke, I was not even
aware because the blood clot was somassive in my brain that I don't know

(41:36):
a whole month of my life.And this was again five years ago.
So when this happened, I kepton having a dream. And in this
dream, there was a Chinese doctortalking to my wife and my mother,
and he was saying, no,with these special herbs and roots and a

(42:00):
diet, we are going to gethim back to normal. He will be
okay, you'll see. And thenhe would strap me to this table in
a silver cocoon, a large silvercocoon with wires hanging off of it,
and he would say, okay,every time I throw this switch, it

(42:23):
is going to rewire the synapses inyour brain. And I was like okay.
So when he would throw the switchand it would light up, his
eyes would actually turn from a Chineseperson into a gray, an alien,
gray creature. This dream went onfor about a week until finally I came

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out of a coma, and theywere a made that I actually came out.
My kidneys were shutting down at thispoint too, because I was so
deadly sick and just ravaged. Mybody was ravaged. And then I just
started to make a full recovery andthey were amazed. The doctors were shocked,

(43:12):
and I had to go to rehabfor one week, and they said
to me they had never seen anyonerecuperate so fast in all the years that
they had been doing this at thisrehabilitation center from a stroke. And it
was even more amazing because of alarge blood cloud that I had in my
brain. And then I said tomyself again, I guess it's you guys

(43:37):
watching out for me again, becauseI should be dead ten times over with
all the things I've lived through inmy life. And again I was just
amazed that I lived through. Iactually, to tell you the truth,
I thought I was dead in livinga dream for about the first few months

(43:57):
after I woke up out of thecoma, I said, this came be
real, because you know you're tellingme everything I lived through. Here.
Matter of fact, there was onewoman who was a surgeon who was retiring
because they weren't sure if they weregoing to have to go operate on me
and wanted to look around in myhead again. And this was supposedly the
top surgeon who was retiring, andshe wanted to meet me. So I

(44:20):
said, okay, sure, Igo in there, and I'm sitting on
top of the table and as soonas she comes in, this little old
meek lady, she said to me, are you okay? And I said
yeah, And she said, Iam just amazed because I was just in

(44:40):
the other room reading all your files. And by every instance I would think
that she would be in a wheelchair, curled up in a ball in a
corner of the room. And shesaid, he are talking to me,
A everything is fine, She goes, It's truly amazing. She goes,

(45:02):
I've never seen anything like this.And when you hear things like this,
you know, it sort of makesyou say to yourself, am I something
different than a human? You know? I kind of think I am because
this I had this weird jack tomutation which made my platelets constantly go So

(45:24):
while the platelets are or the thingthat makes your blood stick and go together,
it heals you, and it healsyour body. And so even though
I was a diabetic, my bodywould heal very fast, which they couldn't
understand. So this was a mutationin my blood. And just about three

(45:44):
months ago I had to do acolon test and it came back abnormal.
They thought, oh, well you'vegot you've got cancer. You got abnormal
DNA inside of your colon. Sonow we have to do a colonoscopy.
So they do a colonoscopy, findabsolutely nothing wrong. But then they tell

(46:06):
me inside of your stomach and colontrack you have abnormal DNA, which we
have no clue why. So Ihave an abnormal blood disease and abnormal blood,
abnormal DNA inside my colon and intestines, which they don't understand. They

(46:27):
have no explanation for it. Again, very strange and very very surreal sometimes
that these encounters take place and everythinglike that. Again, I have a
lot of pictures as well, Nick, of you know, these strange orbs
of light and everything like that,So maybe I'll show them sometimes. Yeah,

(46:50):
feel free. People can listen,they can go and check. Ay,
well, I'll show you the pictureas well of the shadow Woman on
the original London Bridge out here,the one that's in Lake Havasu, Arizona.
You know, I will show youthat as well. Yeah, it's
a picture of a shadow woman.Very strange too as well. This was
are for a gut out of thehospital and I had the marsa and staff

(47:14):
and my wife was like, well, listen, let's go to the original
London bridge out here in Lake howas soon we'll go take pictures and everything.
And I said sure. And whenthey took a picture of me,
and you know, I felt likeit was just so cold, although it
was not because it was in themiddle of summer. I believe it was
August, and it was just sohot. And you see a woman in

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a Victorian dress and she's actually rightthere in the picture like in the fog.
It's crazy, that's right. Thebridge that's in London today is not
the original. For those who didn'trealize that, it says it's an Arizona
the original one. Yep. Theymoved it in the seventies brick by brick,
which I thought was very strange butvery cool. Yeah, very strange

(47:57):
and unusual location ascended to Yes,I do believe that they in the seventies
because the government of London was like, listen, we're just going to dismantle
it and throw it away. SoI forgot who was the governor at the
time, and he went over thereand had all the bricks numbered piece by

(48:19):
piece, and it was put alltogether exactly the way it was. You
can actually see, Like I believethat part of the story was that they
dismantled some of the metal land poston the bridge that were used in Napoleon's
cannons. I believe that's part ofthe story. Yeah, London would,

(48:39):
especially after World War Two, theywould use things that were left over from
the wall. There's parts of Londonwhich has railings they were used as like
stretchers and stuff. And then there'sthe Saint ballards around the city that were
originally cannons from past times. Iknow. The bridge was built eighteen eighteen

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twenties maybe, so it's interesting nowthey were just going to dismantle it and
throw it away, as you dowith bridges. Interesting that one, and
the spirit went with it traveled allthat way, yeah, apparently, and
it was creepy because again I haveseen spirits in my life and everything like
that, you know. But theodd thing is I'm more or less can

(49:21):
capture than on the film. Why, I don't know, you know,
I've never quite figured that out.But you know, it just happens.
We go, we go to Tombstoneand we've captured e vps and things like
that. But also too, youknow, you see the ghosts, things
like that, so and so forth. My mother and my grandmother were far

(49:43):
more able to see them and interactwith them then I'm able to. But
this is something which seems to havegone through you, you know, your
whole family, with your grandmother,your mother, yourself. What about your
son? He I believe is personallya little bit afraid of it. He's
a little bit frightened of it.See, he's twenty six years old,

(50:07):
he will be twenty seven, andhe has seen things. He's seen the
UFOs on one incident I did nottell you about it, And this happened
to be when we lived in ApacheJunction, first go around out there was
that He said he woke up onenight and he saw sparks coming off and

(50:28):
there was a power station that hadjust been down the block. It was
extremely close and he said he sawa ship and it was a disc shape,
you know ship, And he saidhe can see beings in the window
ports, and he looked at them, he waved at them, and then
all of a sudden, the shipshot off. He said it looked to

(50:49):
him like they were siphoning off ofthe power grid there. That's what he
shared with me. He was theone who also saw the orbs that night
I got in the car accident thathe said they were coming in and out
of the window looking for me.I don't know what those orbs. I
believe that they are, you know, UFOs or some sort of entity that

(51:15):
watches over and protects me, becauseI've seen them and it's just very surreal,
very strange. And I've actually capturedthem on film as well, so
you know, they happened to bejust balls of white lights. And that
was the night that, you know, when when they came in your son's
window and then he sat looking foryou. Then he sent him, sent

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him you away, correct, Andthe car accident that's when it happened.
That's when it was when the timehad stopped and everything like that. It
was very you know that that caraccident itself was I should have been demolished
and destroyed it. And another thingI didn't say was the hospital sent me
home with no blood thinners and everythinglike that. While I had a subdoor

(51:58):
humor tome armor, I signed myown the size about football and my chest
was well that you know, Icould have had a blood plot and died.
And do you think these beings havecertainly had a hand obviously throughout your
life, especially when it comes tohealth and recovery. Yes, most definitely.
Yes, many things that I shouldn'thave lived through. I did you

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took a religious route? Do youthink they're one and the same. Yes,
I do. I think a lotof these encounters that they talk about
in the Bible, especially Ezekiel andthe Wheel, that those were actually a
UFO encounter, because I believe thatthat he was describing starboards. I don't
know which section of the Bible.I'll be honest with you. I read

(52:44):
the Bible, but I'm not reallylike you know, gung Ho into reading
the entire thing, you know anddoing that way. I do believe there's
something, but I'm not exactly surepercent what you know still at this stage
in the game. I know thissomething. I've seen it with my own
eyes and everything like that, andexperienced things like this, you know,

(53:06):
Angel boy, and the lady Mary. You know. But again, that
young man who came to visit mewhen I was going through those hardships with
my mother in the court and allthis, he seemed, I don't know,
I knew things about me. Hecould have been a hybrid for all
I know. Very strange things goon out here in Arizona, Nick,

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They'll always have You'll see, you'llsee a lot of instances of UFO activity
out here. Yeah, you gotthat right. I have a little guest
which comes from Arizona. Yep,yep. Very strange, very strange.
You know. I met a lotof really cool people here too that I
never would have and everything like that. You know, when a matter of
fact, you know, like Isaid, the precognitive thing, I happened

(53:47):
to be better at it than mymother or my grandmother. Was a very
strange incident. Was my grandmother tellingme when I was in I think it
was fifth grade, so this wouldhave had to have been what when you're
like ten, so nineteen seventy nine, and she would tell me Don,

(54:07):
this was she told me one night, don do you want to see the
future? And I said, yes, sure, of course, you didn't
want to see the future, andshe said, okay, so tonight,
when you go to bed, whatI want you to do is dream of
a spiral. And I said,okay, I'll dream of a spiral and
she said and when you do,he said, keep on absorbing it and

(54:30):
looking into it, and you'll dreamabout what happens tomorrow. And I said
okay. So I went to bedand I had this dream the entire night
of what was going to happen thenext day in school. And so woke
up and I'm all excited, youknow, in my young mind, and
I'm like, wow, I can'twait to go to school because I know

(54:52):
exactly what's going to happen. Andthis guy who I was friends with,
Joey Robinson, he was like,hey, don how do you do?
And I'm like, good, good, Joey. You know, hey,
listen, you know what's going tohappen today. The principle is going to
call a special auditorium because we're allgoing to be called down for I think

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we were selling stuff through this magazineand it was, you know, slocky
Little Things and everything like that forthe school and he was like yeah,
and I was like, yeah,they're gonna show in the auditorium these cartoons
and in this order. And soall of a sudden, as I say
this, about ten to fifteen minuteslater, the principle comes on and says,

(55:34):
I'm gonna have a special auditorium forall the stuff the school has been
selling, and we're gonna come down. And then when I, you know,
told him what the movies were,the cartoons that we were going to
see, Tom and Jerry, Popeyeand whatever else it was, he was
kind of like shaken back. Andthen I said to him he got back
to the class. Okay, nowthe teacher's going to call a special pop

(55:55):
quiz, but don't worry, becauseyou're gonna get this score. And I'm
going to get this and we're goingto pass. Well. Teacher calls a
pop quiz, and sure enough,that's what happened. So I started looking
at Joey's face, and he waslooking a little queasy at this point,
and I think, you know,saying to himself, why is this guy

(56:20):
able to do? Why is myfriend saying this and able to see this?
And then I kind of heard thisvoice. I've heard this voice before.
I guess I guess it's my higherself. You would call it,
and it said, don don't shareanymore with him. He's scared. So
I didn't, And for a longtime after that, I wouldn't do the

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spiral trick because my grandmother showed me, because I didn't want my classmates to
be afraid. That's certainly is interesting, don I bean. I'm also interested
to know if that is a techniquethat people can use. It is this
something you tried? Again to tellyou the truth? I never really had
to, because they would just cometo me in dreams. Like an example

(57:10):
was again the Apache Junction where wewere living out there. Now we live
in Gilbert, Arizona, but whenwe were living in an Apache junction,
I had there's a dream we hadthis dog Angel. You know, she
was great watchdog and everything. SoI said to my wife one morning,
listen, Jen, you have togo out and you got to get more
dog food and kibble because we're gonnahave another dog. And she goes,

(57:37):
you're crazy. She goes, whatdo you mean we're gonna have another dog?
And I said, I'm telling youit's gonna be a little white dog.
It's going to be attached to ourson. I said, I had
a dream that I was in thecar with you, I said, But
I really don't think I was withyou. I think I was just watching
over you and able to see this. And you picked up this little dog

(57:58):
on the side of the road,and it came live with us, and
it loved us and was attached toour son. About five months after that,
another dog, little white dogs,she picked up on the Silo road
while she were driving my son toschool because I had told her to get
the dog food. What she didn'tshouldn't listen to me. It's a very

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That's paranormal Radio. My daughter,now, on the other hand,

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she's a miracle child. My wifeis younger than I am by like eleven
years, so I am fifty fournow, but I became a father again
at the age of fifty two.Little girl, blonde hair, blue eyes,
looks just like me, and thisone knows things. And again I
believe it's because I've also taught herthough. I will take things in my

(59:32):
hand and say like an eminem,you know, in two hands, and
I say, okay, what coloris this one? And what color is
this? And eighty percent of thetime she will get it correct because I
believe I'm training her mind to thinkoutside of the box. I guess you

(59:52):
would say, much like in thatmovie the men who stare at goats while
they were, you know, traininginto remote view and use their mind and
everything like that. I do believethat these things are quite possible, and
they are all within the realm ofpossibility. But not only do you have
to want to do it, youshould do it and try it because it

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actually brings you to a higher stateof consciousness. She is very gifted,
my daughter. She knows that.She knows that, and as I've trained
her, like I said, thethings outside of the box. While we're
walking on a dog the other night, the new Dog Lily, I'm thinking
of this ministry song in my headand all of a sudden had of nowhere.

(01:00:37):
She goes, Dad ministry and Isaid, what do you mean?
And she goes, that's what you'rethinking in your head, and lo and
behold, I was So she seemslike another one. Well, I mean
she you know, number one,she's your daughter. She has your DNA
when you were a kid. Youknow, you've got some ideas and stuff
from you from your grandmother. Butwhereas with your daughter, you know,

(01:00:59):
you're teaching of things. So maybeshe can be more acceptable, more connected.
Yes, I agree. Yeah,of course. The Ministeric Goats is
an amazing book and then later becamea film, and yeah, it's technique.
I think these techniques can be taught. We know, whether you think,
yeah, you know you have abilities, psychic abilities or not. These

(01:01:19):
you know, there's things there whichcan be taught. Yes, most definitely.
Just people have to get more connected. And you know, we have
a lot of listeners out there whichare connected and they you know, they
try these techniques and they learn fromthem. Yes, you get connected to
the source and everything. We've alsoseen things that were you know, quite
scary and sometimes too you know,so premonitions of nine to eleven. That

(01:01:40):
was that wasn't really scary when Ilived in New York City, because you
know, that's where I initially camefrom. And this happened to being about
I want to say, nighteen ninetyone. I was going on a train
right into Manhattan. We had workedthere, you know, ben wood Haven,
Queens in New York, with myfriend Nick, and I said to

(01:02:04):
him, you know, as wewere traveling along and we saw the Twin
Towers, I said, you know, one day that's not going to be
there. And he was like,what do you mean, what are you
talking about? And I was like, no, it's just it's going to
be demolished. Man. Some terroristsare going to attack that and it's just
going to be destroyed. And hewas like, oh, come on.
And then years later, sure enoughit happened, unfortunately, you know,

(01:02:27):
and changed our world. And thenI had this weird, I guess you'd
say, gift. I actually foundout a few years ago what it was
called. It was called Claire audience, where I smell if someone is going
to die, it smells like extinguishedcandles. And I smelled that when my
son with my ex wife passed away. He did unfortunately, wasn't born,

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but the night before it happened,there was a smell of extinguished candles all
around her boy, and she justreeked of it. It smelled like someone
had just snuffed out candles all overher body. And it was again when
my grandmother had passed away, forwe actually knew that she had cancer.

(01:03:15):
She came walking into the room onetime and I said to her, I
smell candles all over your body.And she said, no, no,
no, no, non, can'tbe and she was getting really nervous,
and I said to her, no, this is I definitely smelled it's all
over you man. Sure enough shedid. She had the cancer and then

(01:03:36):
she died. Yeah, it makesyou wonder when when pets, you know,
stayed by their their own aside,you know, before their pass in
that same of animals, they knowwhen someone's sick, they know when someone's
passing. Yes, yes, Ibelieve so. My dog Angel, though,
she was very different though the dogsLily I have. Now, she's
a good labador, you know,she's she's okay and everything like that.

(01:03:58):
But this dog Angel was it wasalmost as if she could read your mind
and think what you were doing.I could walk up without a leag She
knew when my blood sugar would golow. We trained her to do that
again because I'm a diabetic, soand we trained she learned how to do
that. She I would throw apiece of food on the floor and say,
no, don't eat that until Icome back. I would leave it

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would be there until I came back. Yeah, she was not only loyal,
smart, very good, very gooddog. Yes, animals are very
unperceptive, and I believe tap intoa primal sense that in some ways we
don't have anymore, you know,due to like the technology that sort of

(01:04:44):
makes us I don't know if youwould say lazy or complacent, but a
different way of thinking. Yeah,you know exactly. It's just like we're
wired in. I think we arelosing so much we are gaining. Of
course, I think we lose ina little bit a part of ourselves,
maybe becoming less human somewhat absolutely rightthat there's a lot of really scary times

(01:05:10):
coming down the pike, which Idon't think a lot of people are prepared
for. It's just I've always believed, I guess ever since I was young.
Eventually there has to be a reset, because we reached this plateau of
becoming too much of the ego inourselves and we say, oh no,
no, no, we can dothat, and we can do this well

(01:05:30):
because you know, we're human andwe absolutely can just you know, make
this and do that. And surethat's all great and good and everything like
that. But it's when you readchild and you really try and help people
and do things for a more peacefulsolution instead of the wheel based ego that
I believe that it's better. Ithink if everyone did that, you know,

(01:05:54):
everyone, then the water be avery different place and not the you
know the place it is at theminute, right right, right, agree,
But it is what it is.It is what it is. But
the world has become very strange inthe last twenty years, you know,
as soon as we hit the millennium. Yeah, well, especially with AI
now too and everything like that.You know, like just for example,

(01:06:15):
right in the Stanley Kruber doesn't wantto Space Odyssey, which that man knew
things. He had to be avisionary and probably somewhat say get clairvoyant.
That you see the astronauts and they'reall looking at tablets on the table.
This is way before there were evertablets for you know, children and kindles

(01:06:39):
and everything like that, and it'sall good and everything like that. You
know, you see them actually watchingthese things on a kindle essentially or you
know, a little flat screen TV. And but the very next scene was
the AI takes over and destroys everybody. So well, I mean it was
written biofs Clark and he was avisionary, yes, and a lot a

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lot of things that he's written inhis books over the years because it was
a space obviously there was there wasothers. You know, he wrote over
books around that as well, andthere there are many things which he you
know, he predicted. But heactually used to present a TV show and
he'd written books about the paranormal andstuff, and he was on a TV
show called Arthur C. Clark's Strangein World Powers and this is nineteen eighty

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three, I think it was whenhe used to do that. So he
did write about stuff which now I'veactually come to pass. Yeah, a
lot of those writers were visionaries,you know, Philip K. Dick someone
saw what a lot of paranormal experiencesin that field and everything like, they're
very strange. If you've ever readThe Extra Jesus of Philip K. Dick.
That's a mind opener for sure.I've never read that one. No,

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I've read I Enjoy The Dream ofall they're trying to choose. Yes,
Yeah, which actually became Blade Writerand Minority Reporters, which was all
about pre crime. But no,what was the one you said, Oh,
the actual Jesus of Philip K.Dick. Okay, I'll write that.
Then I was going to get holdof that one. Yeah, that's
that's a mind blower where he talksabout being visited by a pink light that

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revealed to him his past life andeverything like that. Yeah, I was
shown my past life. That waspretty wild, and oddly enough, it
was with a woman who I wasdating out here, and I had been
with her through quite a few lifetimes. It was very bizarre. I had
met this woman, well this isafter I got a divorce, and uh,

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you know, I sort of likedher, this girl Amy, but
at the same time, and Ihad just gotten a divorce and I wasn't
really sure I wanted to be involvedwith anybody at all. And we fell
I wouldn't say in love, becauseyou know, love after the divorce is
really but we became very close,you know, intimate everything like that.

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And the very first night when wewent out, I met this friend of
hers called Brand and we were havinga few drinks, you know, and
Amy says to me, done yougive her anything from you and she's able
to hold it and tell you whereit came from. So a few days

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prerevious to this, I had goneinto the garage to go get a nail
to hang up a picture on thewall, and there was a medallion of
Saint Jude in the box. AndI said, that's pretty damn strange that
there's a medallion of Saint Jude andthere. So I showed my grandmother at
the time. I said, Graham, what is this? And she goes,

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oh, my god, you knowwhere that is. She goes,
that's a medallion that your grandfather gaveto you when you were little and first
born. I said, really,I said, from what would it be
doing in a box and nail?She goes, I don't know. So
I hand this woman, you know, Amy's friend, Brand, this me
downie, and she holds it fora few minutes. She opens her eyes

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and she goes, don there's aman standing next to you in the brown
suit with gray hair horned rim glasses, he's smoking a cigar. He wants
you to know that he is theone that gave this to you, and
he's your grandfather and he always watchesover you. I dropped that beer nick

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out of my hand and was like, how could this girl know that?
You know? Yeah? And itwas crazy. So as we were going
home, this girl Amy got six. She drank a little bit too much
and was sort of not feeling welland she was like, hold on staying
with me and everything. And Iwas like, okay, but you know,
I want you to go home.I want you to sleep it off
and everything like that. So thisgirl, Brianne is saying to me as

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we drop Amy off, and wewalked into the door and put her in
a room and everything. When thatshe said, don you know you've been
with this woman Amy before? AndI said yeah, right, come on,
sure. She goes no, you'vebeen with her a few lifetimes before.
Yeah, sure, she goes,no, Listen, when you go
home tonight, you're gonna dream aboutit. And I said, listen,

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I'm not going to fall for that, you know. I said, my
mind's a lot stronger than that.And she goes, no, No,
you'll see so sure enough when Iwent home, I must have been with
her about three or four different lifetimesand I saw them all. I was
in Roman times in one. Anotherone was where I was this painter in
France and painting her, and anotherone was the wild West of all of

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all things, where she had likea bonded hat and everything. And I
had seen them all like they allplayed out in my head and everything like
that, and I just woke upand said, what the hell was that
all about? You know? SoI called her up. You know,
I must have been about two inthe morning, and I said to her,
Hey, you know, I justhad the stream or dream about about

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you and everything she does. Yeah, I just had to stranger stream about
you too, And she recanted thesame exact dream that I heard. That's
interesting, you know, they dosay, you know the people around you,
you know, we moved from lifetimeto lifetime and we're always in roughly
the same kind of group. Youknow, we're talking about AI and getting
connected and you know, locked intothis. And I think human beings are
already connected. You know, weare already on this this big hyperlink.

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You know, we're all connected.We're all in a big web of consciousness
all over the world. Yeah,I agree completely Nick with you that most
people don't know it though yes,no, I don't think they do.
No, but we are well keepus updated, you know if if anything
else you know, does happen.Sure, absolutely. And then that was

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important for me to tell that andsort of, you know, get off
my chest and speak my piece.I was a little nervous at first,
but then I said no, andyou know, my wife and since that,
she's like, you need to tellyour story down because you know,
there's a lot of strange things thatgo on, you know, within the
family and with you, and Ithink they need to be told because she
says, I do believe that otherpeople experience these things, and I said,

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yes, I agree. And sothat is essentially why I agreed to
come on. And you know,honestly, that is why it is very
important to talk to people. AndI've always felt and looked for I guess
you would call signs to do this, and they've all been pointing to that

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this is the time, now andeverything to do this and you know,
speak And I was very happy tospeak with you, and it was very
nice. I enjoyed it. Weenjoyed listening Tony. I say, you
know, if something strange and veryvery bizarre and it doesn't make sense and
it isn't like something mainstream, shareit, you know, because I guarantee
there are other people out there,you know, which have these very very

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strange accounts. Yes, yes,I agree. In Connecticut, where I
came from after I lived in NewYork, I had lived in Connecticut for
many years after that, that isa hotbed of paranormal activity. Really really
really very scary and old, youknow, that old New England town and

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everything like that, had an oldNew England field which was very I had
actually my very first apartment I hadcome to find out it was an insane
asylum and a funeral parlor. That'sa good mix, a real good mix
nic for seeing apparitions, you know. Oh it was. It was horrifying.

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It was really horrifying to our listeners. Anyone's thinking and move into Connecticut.
It's a beautiful place. But anyoneliving in Connecticut, if you've had
any strange experiences, feel free toshare them. We have had a few
guests from Connecticut, but I believewe could certainly get more. Yeah,
Yeah, there's a there's interesting times. I have a I guess we'd say

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a family member. Really odd enoughfor my ex wife's family. They still
talk to me more than they doto her. But he is her nephew
and he still talks to me thisday. And he experienced a lot of
this with me. He was therewhile these things happened. Like give you
one example before we go, andit was my son had passed away.

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I told you about that smelling thecandles on the ax life. So my
other son was born and he wasabout just about turned a year old.
We were downstairs playing pool. Wehad a pool table in this condo,
in the basement, and so Ihad the baby monitor on and at this
point my son Dakota, and allof a sudden one night, the baby

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monitor flared up and I said daddy, And it sounded like it was coming
from a tunnel, you know,was that voice saying daddy, daddy?
And then I said to myself,well, what is that. That's not
the code. I run upstairs.I'm looking around, you know, seeing
him, and I'm saying to myself, that's clearly not him. He's not

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even talking. So my ex wifewas working at night and when she comes
home. I say to her,you know, it was the strangest thing.
I tell about the incident with thebaby monitor and everything like that,
and she says to me, dondo you realize that was the day that
our fun passed away. It's unusual, isn't it. Yeah? I would

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say, like I said, Nick, I've experienced a lot of paranormal scary
things like that, But I wasnever really frightened of those things. I
guess because I grew up with it, you know. So I do believe
also too, that these ghosts andaliens encounters somehow travel within the of one
another. They're interconnected. I getthe impression that they are. You know,

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they are a lot of people whichhave these, you know, these
encounters, these eidien encounters. They'veusually been surrounded by paranormal activity the whole
life, you know, and several, you know, several other things.
We're strange to have multiple things happensnot uncommon, and it's not uncom one
for me to hear it all,you know, I hear it very very
often. Some people are very skepticalwhen they say, oh, you know,
you can't see a UFO ASI atghost ANCI at Big Fund and stuff,

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you know, but you know thesedo these things are interconnected somehow?
There they are in that circle orsphere. And I agree with you.
Interconnected. I mean, that's it'sthe million dollar question. Wonderful Don.
I really appreciate you coming on sharingit all for our listeners. Okay,
thank you. Nick. Definitely keepsupdated. I will, I will,
I will. Nick. You havea good night. Yeah, it's been

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great speaking to you, and youenjoy the rest of your night you as
well. Take care. Thank you, Don. That is all for this
episode. Keep updated and connected withthis show on Twitter, Facebook, and
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podcast, you can email me atUFO Chronicles at gmail dot com, or
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podcast dot com. A big thankyou to Don for sharing tonight, and
thank you all for listening. Iwill be back next week. Till then,
stay safe and keep watching the skies. Goodbye. An