Ep.345 The Ones Who Stood in Silence

Tonight's guest is Yossi, who, in 1981, experienced a powerful out-of-body event in Los Angeles, but what followed was even more extraordinary. In a face-to-face encounter with non-human intelligences in his room, Yossi was drawn into a silent, telepathic exchange that revealed messages of profound consciousness, love, and a stark warning for humanity.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
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a UFO hanging in? We don't want to report every
thirty one. Do you wish to report a.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
UFO over hey, we want to one.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
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find a report of any kind of it?

Speaker 3 (00:18):
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Time areas thirty one me neither there.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
See if it was anybody above us to pass us,
Like thirty seconds ago, we were sending one top of
golf negative, okay, OFFI the UFO.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeah, it's murder ten nine o'clock.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yes, I'll just passed over.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
God.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I don't know what it was, but it's from at
least to three thousand feet above us. See, I passed
out over the top.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
Of us ninety one one. You just called both to
be be four rest.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
They're after staying the airplanes he.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Is swear to God more calm on an unidentified object
every liberty or call or calm on an unidentified flying object.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share
their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had
an encounter, I would like to be on the show.
You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com.

(01:47):
Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. I hope people
had a great week. I'm Nick Hunter and this is
the UFO Chronicles podcast. Tonight's guest is Yo Si, and
he comes to us from Israel. And in nineteen eighty one,
Yos experienced a powerful out of the body event in
Los Angeles, but what followed was even more extraordinary. Yos

(02:10):
recounts a face to face encounter with non human intelligences
in his room. Yosi was pulled into a silent telepathic
exchange that revealed messages of deep consciousness, love, and a
stark warning for humanity. Yos is up next, but first.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
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with the show. Hello, Yo Si, Welcome to the podcast.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Helloonie, thank you for inviting me to your beautiful podcast.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
You were more than welcome. It is great to have
you with us tonight and you'll call him from Israel.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Yes, I'm from Israel near television in Holoan.

Speaker 5 (03:18):
Wonderful stuff. Okay, now yo, see you have an experience
that occurred in nineteen eighty one. Would you like to
start at the beginning place, sir.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yes, the contact begins on eighty one when I was
in LA with my brother. He invited me to work
with him. He was walking in the valley in Los Angeles.
And it happened two or three months after I came
to work with him, And it happened in the afternoon

(03:52):
when we came back from work. We came to rest.
He went to his room to sleep, and I to
my room, and I went to bed and fall in sleep.
And the first thing that happened to me was that
I was out of my body the first time in
my life. That was a very strong experience that because

(04:16):
it doesn't happen to me before. What happened is that
I stow myself sleeping on the bed from above, like
from I'm looking at my body sleeping on the bed
from above from the ceiling. And the feeling was very
good feeling. I felt very calm and even happy to

(04:38):
see myself sleeping on the bed. In that situation, it
seems that I knew that I'm out of the body
and looking at my body sleeping, even that it happened
in the first time for me, in that situation that
I'm conscious from out of the body, this consciousness knew

(05:01):
that I'm out of the body, and I look at
the body and I felt very empathic to my body.
It seemsact I knew this, this is my body, and
I'm looking at it from outside, and it was amazing
feeling because I could see, you know, my eyes my

(05:21):
body eyes were shut, but I was looking from some
way from outside that my body sleeping, and all the
senses was a little bit different because I could see
without my eyes. I could see from above from like
thirty sixty we have any sixty degrees. And another thing

(05:47):
that I told there is that a couple of breaches
walking in the room. There were four or five of them.
One of them was standing near my body, which was
split and looking it was very close to my body,
close to my head. It was like looking at my
head doing something that after I woke up, I don't

(06:10):
remember what it did, but then I knew that he's
doing something good that was very calm and peaceful and
even happy that I see these pitches things in that situation,
that I know them in a way like I know
them from many years ago, very old friends or something

(06:33):
like that, old family or something like that. And the
other beings were walking in the room, touching things like
furious beings that walking or visiting a new place. And
they look like children, but they had the different kinds

(06:56):
of bodies. They were most of them. There were ski
They looked green. The skin looked green. They had long
hands and long fingers, and a big head with very
big eyes black eyes. Some years after that, I saw

(07:17):
that they are similar to the grays, but they were
green or gray. That was the beginning of the contact.
When I was out of my body, we had a
good connection with each other with telepathic communication, and we
are we were like friends, you know, like friends from
childhood that play with each other and communicate with each

(07:41):
other with a very playful communication. And the thing is
that I knew that I thought of my body, and
I am going back to my body, and I'm going
back to and will wake up to. So this is
what happened. I suddenly wake up in the bed and

(08:05):
my eyes were still to the wall. We had a bed,
and I woke up because I heard the noise in
the room. And the second thing was that I remember
that I had I thought it was a dream that
I'm out of my body. I didn't have the concept
of out of body. I was very young. I was
twenty one. I was not into this spiritual situation or

(08:32):
even the idea of being out of the body. I
was not interested in this kind of stuff. There were
no Internet then, you know, it was twenty one, no
knowledge about out of body experience or UFOs or beings
or things like that. So what I thought is that

(08:52):
I dreamed that I'm out of my body and I
stick creatures green preachers in the room. And that remember
of the dream was very surprising for me. I thought,
what a weird dream that I have, that I'm out
of my body and I stick preaches in the room.
And then I heard the noise behind me. I was

(09:16):
still in my face to the wall, and I turned
around to see what's going on in the room, and
what I saw gave me the shock of my life.
I suddenly saw those creatures that I saw when I
was out of my body. I saw them in the room,
and the one that in the outer body was standing
near my bed, was standing half a meter from me

(09:40):
look at me with these big black eyes, and I
felt the most fearful feeling that I have in my life.
I was my body began to be frozen from fear.
I think I was shaking. Even I didn't I realize
what I'm seeing because I thought maybe I'm still dreaming,
and I pinched myself and I realized that I'm totally

(10:01):
awake and I'm still see those creatures. And I realized
this is you know, I have two choices to think, Oh,
that I still dreaming and I believe that I wake up,
or that I've lost my mind. You know, I never
saw these creatures. I never heard about these creatures or

(10:25):
you those or things like that. So I thought I
am the first one that saw them, or I am
just lost my mind. And that was the beginning of
the face to face contact with when I was totally
awake and my eyes are open. So that was the

(10:45):
real face to face waiting connection with them. And it
was different, totally different than before when I was out
of my body, because when I was out of my
body and connect with them tell partly instead of them.
It was very calm and good and we had a
love connection with each other, like knowing each other. But

(11:09):
when I wake up and see them through my body,
through my eyes, through my conscious, through my open consciousness,
you know, body consciousness, it was totally different. There was
it was afraid. It was a fear like death. Sometimes
after that, many years after that, I realized that the
fear was the instinct fear of the body from something

(11:31):
that it doesn't understand and see for the first time
and doesn't know what it is. So the instinct fear
was be careful, you don't know what is that that
you see. And the instinct fear was dreadful, I mean,
very not good feelings. Another thing that was I was

(11:52):
sitting there on the bed and watching them, you know,
the one that was stood near me didn't say likely nothing,
and the other one, the other beings that was in
the room were standing there looking at me too, but
doesn't do nothing, just watching me. And I felt that

(12:14):
one that is close to me can hear my thoughts
and feel my fear and observe my thinking and everything.
That made me fear even more because it felt like
invasion to my mind invasion to my privacy, and the
fear began even be stronger, and I almost could not

(12:36):
breathe from fear anymore. In that issue situation, I didn't
know what to do. The last thing that I could
do is to remember that a minute ago I saw
them the same creature, and we were okay with each other,
and we had a telepathic communication and we even love.

(12:56):
I thought, maybe that feel that I feel now is
only my fear, and maybe I will give a chance
to my fear to go down, to be lower, and
maybe something will happen. And as I started to do that,
I felt that I understood that the feeling of invasion

(13:19):
to my brain, to my privacy was they're trying to
communicate with me, and there is no reason to fear,
because it's only the body fear. It's only my brain
fear that something goes inside of it. And actually they
are trying to communicate with me. And as I realized

(13:41):
that I felt their emotions and what I felt there
was a very different communication now because the fear got
lower and I've started to communicate with them, and I
realized that they are connecting telepathically, and this communication is

(14:07):
by communicating to my consciousness. It means that they have
the ability to communicate with my consciousness. It's not that
they are pausing themselves inside my consciousness, but what is
happening is that my consciousness is now open to their consciousness,
and we have the ability to be with our consciousness

(14:32):
connected to each other and to the one that was
close to me. To his consciousness, I could realize that
his consciousness is connecting to the other beings that in
the room too, because this is his natural communication. It
doesn't they are doesn't have to talk very in any
verbal way or in a voice or something like that,

(14:54):
because for them it's a very natural way to communicate
to each other. They don't have to speak. And I
realized that me, as a usual human have this ability too,
because I communicated to his consciousness, and I can realize
his consciousness the other consciousness, and in his consciousness, I

(15:16):
can realize that he is communicated into mine. So it's
a kind of one oneness with his consciousness and me
or we as human being can do that. But we
just don't know that, or forgot that, or don't realize that,
or not conscious to that. In the usual consciousness when

(15:39):
we are away and that's start the communication between us.
And what I felt from his consciousness was very special
because they were very calm in their personality. Their personality
was in a very peaceful mood, very calm, very quiet
like and with an ego at all. It seems like

(16:02):
the I realized that they have a very big awareness.
Their consciousness is very wide because they are connected not
only to each other, but to my consciousness, to my
brother consciousness on the other room that was sleeping, and
they are aware to the outside of the room, the
cat that walking the trees. All that I realized from

(16:27):
his consciousness because it was totally open to my awareness,
to my consciousness in that instant, and I felt that
they are very fund and without an ego. That was
like I would think that someone that has such a
white consciousness would be probably have a big ego and

(16:48):
felt superior than me. They were not feeling like that
at all. They were like open to my consciousness and
they have a great respect to me as the humans
that have this stability. But he's not aware of that
because he isn't a body that usually limits his awareness
to who is a very strong consciousness of being, but

(17:13):
it's not aware of the first question that I like
hearing myself question him, you know, without words. It was
like when the question arise in my mind, he knew
that question and get me an answer. And if I

(17:34):
will make the question to a sentence to us, who
are you? I asked him, like, who are you? Where
you came from? And his answer was you think that
maybe we came from a different star or a a
very far place, because your mind is translating the thinking

(17:57):
of being very far to a different style. But actually
we are from a different dimension for your understanding. And
that answer. It took me a couple of years to
realize what it meant by a different dimensions, and I
wrote it in the book. It's a very interesting and

(18:18):
long explanation, but it's close to what we think about
different dimensions. But actually a different dimension in the way
they're man is not a different place. It's the same
physical place that we are inside, but in a different
mode of realizing or different kind of conscious awareness. What

(18:43):
I mean is that there are the other dimension is here,
but we are not aware of it. Maybe there are
many dimensions that we don't conscious. All we only conscious
to our physical three D world, our sensors from the
body and be connected and realized. So this is that

(19:05):
was his answer. And another thing was that I was
very curious to his to their good feeling and good
and happiness and love that they fell to everything. And
because I was allowed to be inside their consciousness, I
wanted to know or to understand where that happiness came from.

(19:32):
I mean, what is the mode of their consciousness? Why
are they so calm? And I mean I wanted to understand,
like the deepest awareness of the way they understand reality.
I was very curious to know how they think, why
they feel the way they feel? Who are they? What

(19:54):
I realized when I can deep inside their consciousness is
that they are aware of strong loving light. This is
the way I interpret it looked to me visually like
a strong white yellow light. That they're aware of it,
and this light gave them existence and for them, that

(20:18):
light give existence to everything and like a field of
light of energy. The only word that I can say
about that, it's love that gives existence to everything, including me,
humanity and everything. And this is the way they believe

(20:39):
they know. For them, it's not believing, it's like knowing,
And you know. Years after that, I realized that what
they well is like our believing in God, but we
do it differently because we have a different way of
thinking and realizing reality. From them and for them, it

(21:02):
was very simple and like knowing the basic structure of reality,
and in the structure there is a light, loving light
that gives existence to everything, to our dimension, to that dimension.
This is the most beautiful and happy feeling that I
had in my life and in the contract. It was

(21:24):
an amazing feeling to know that, to feel that, because
it was when I realized that in my consciousness, it
was realizing of something very deep of our reality and
the truth to one. I mean, in the second that
I realized that loving light, I knew it's true. I
know it's the basics for everything. And the first pages

(21:48):
of the contact, in the book and in the rest
of the book, I opened all of that contract to
what I realized from that.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
Thank you for sharing that, YOC one interesting experience. How
many times would you say you've encountered them over the years?
I mean this was in nineteen eighty one, so several years.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Yes, it's been more than many years. The mother farting
years from that. That was the only time that I
had an experience of a face to face contact with them.
I wanted to have another one with them before I
started to write the book, but I couldn't do that.

(22:30):
I was I find myself suddenly afraid again. I couldn't
handle the idea that I'm going to meet them face
to face again. So it was the only time that
I did that, But it was enough. You know, the
contact gave me a memory in my brain or my consciousness,

(22:51):
a memory that I can go back into and have
the same experience of contact them, but only to my consciousness,
not from face to face contact that is very, very
difficult to the body, especially when it is away. So
it was only one time that I had a face

(23:13):
to face contact.

Speaker 5 (23:14):
And during that time of that face to face contact,
what specific ideas or insights did they communicate with you?

Speaker 1 (23:24):
Well, it's so big and so much like information, but
in a very different way because because they are not talking,
they're not like stending information like us talking hearing information
and sending information to each other. The only thing they

(23:45):
did is let me go inside the consciousness and have
whatever I want to check or to understand, or to
listen to or to or to realize. And it was
only a couple of minutes, I think three or four
minutes that I could stend physically the contact with them.

(24:06):
But in this three minute there was no limitation of
the information because it was not a regular information that
specific world or sentences or different ideas, because like at
once everything and my usual linear thinking now have to

(24:29):
divide it to ideas and sentences and words, and it's
a very wide thing that it's connected to many many things.
But I think the most important thing for them to
make me realize is to understand my own consciousness as
a human being. And the way they did the communication

(24:52):
between me and them by the consciousness is one of
the ways for them to give me the opportunity to
do that, because because they contact me out of the
body with my pure consciousness and then from the body,
from the consciousness that is limited by the body, I

(25:15):
had the chance to like to parallel them and to
understand what are the limitations of my body consciousness compared
to my open consciousness. And this is a very long
explanation or ideas that I wrote in the book.

Speaker 5 (25:32):
You said they communicate with you that they were from
basically another dimension. Did they indicate who they were?

Speaker 1 (25:40):
They didn't I don't know if they didn't say or
I was not interesting on more than the answer we
came from a different dimension, because they were totally open
for me to observe whatever I want. But I realized
that who they are from a different dimension means that
they are in a they have the ability to go

(26:04):
from their dimension that it doesn't need anybody because it
was not a physical dimension. It was a different dimension.
But because they're very wide consciousness and probably very advanced one,
they could go and visit the different dimensions, dimensions like

(26:26):
our and they could do that by exactly the way
I saw. I saw them with a body. I saw them.
Each one of them had a body that gives them
the opportunity to experience to be anybody in a pretty
physical world. And they showed me that even when they

(26:47):
go out of the room when I did, they wanted
to stop the communication. They did a very special thing
that it took me some time to realize, but I
realized that they just told me how they go back
to there. They mentioned what they did. They went a
little bit far from me. They stand in a circle.

(27:08):
They hold their hands with each other and a circle.
They started to walk in a circle, and then to
like to run. They didn't run, but they they started
to fast movement of the circle, and the circle went
so fast that began to be a very strong light.

(27:30):
The circle thin, very strong light that thin, and that
pinning light became to be smaller and smaller. Really, it
became to be a very small point of light that
disappeared from my eyes. In that situation, I realized that
they didn't really disappeared from reality. They just disappeared from

(27:53):
my conscious eye. It means that they disappeared from the
pretty physical world that I see with my standards, and
that gives me a more understanding of what it means
to be in a different reality. You know, I think
that we are doing it too when we borone in

(28:16):
this pretty world in a body, and then we go
back to that dimension when we die and our consciousness
continuous after relieving the body.

Speaker 5 (28:26):
When you had the body experience, Now, do you think
they were responsible for causing that and then giving them
the ability to make this communication with you?

Speaker 1 (28:37):
Yes, I think that they did it on purpose, but
I know that they in a way they didn't did
not do that post in force on me, because when
I was connected to them, I felt that they are
very very gentle with me and don't force me to
do or they didn't forced me to realize nothing, only

(29:03):
what I wanted to be to know or to hear
or to understand from them. So what I realized that happened,
that it was a situation. Probably they knew there is
a situation in that time and place with me that
I could be open to their consciousness, and they did

(29:25):
it in a way that it was easy for me
because they did it in a two separate ways of consciousness,
and at the beginning it was easy, and then when
I woke up it was not so easy. But because
I remember the communication with them before, it made the

(29:46):
communication much easier. Natural fear that my body and rational
thinking felt in front of them.

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Speaker 5 (31:00):
So when you would have a further contact with them,
is it something that you initiate or does it just
randomly happen the.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
Other communications that I have with them, It was not
place to pace, It was not physically. I did it
in my attention, but I did it in a very
light way. I realized when I was writing the memory
of the contact, my mind is like concentrated on that
place in my brain that another the contact, and he

(31:32):
is like opening the memory. And the opening of the
memory in my brain is like opening the place in
my consciousness that is connected all the time to that dimension.
And I think that we all have the ability. I
think every musician that have the you know, a download

(31:53):
of music to his mind, the music that he didn't
hurt before, and it got it fully from beginning to
the end. He is like doing that. It's like communicating
to it that they mentioned that is much more wider
and can download information from that, or an artist can

(32:14):
do that, or you know the scientists that want to
have an answer and suddenly got it in his brain.
Probably what happened when I'm writing is like getting closer
to that situation, and I have this ability to contact
that they mentioned that they are communicating from. I have

(32:38):
even more understanding and realization from that situation.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
I feel like what Tesley used to do, because he
spoke of connecting roughly the same way.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yes, it was amazing for me to hear that about him,
because you know, I had all the information about people
that have this kind of contact. Only many years after
that when the Internet began to be open that I
bought a computer and I could go inside the Internet,
and I realized that many people like me had this

(33:11):
communication that and have this you know, very similar to
my And when I heard about I read about tesla
story that he was communicated with them, it was very
thrilling for me, you know, And then I heard about
many people that have the many ideas many people have

(33:32):
this kind of usage of communicating. Part of the people
say that they were creatures. The other ones said that
I was connecting with God. The other will say that
they're connected with the angels. And I think it's the same.
It's all the same because they are all connected to
a different dimensions and get the information. But they when

(33:55):
they go back to the usual ways and they write
the memory of the contact with the other dimensioned, they
usually do that with their belief of what is the
meaning of being communicating with other demands, communicating to a
higher awareness, And I think meeting an angel, or meeting God,

(34:21):
or meeting a very wise light that gives you information,
it's all the same. It's only the invitation of the
personality of the individual that have the contact with this
other dimension. You can hear that from many people that have,
for instance, clinical death, and when they get into the

(34:44):
tunnel and meet the beings that are inviting them to
the other side of the tunnel and receive them, some
say I saw an angel, and some say I met
my grandmother that I love so much, and others say
I mess Jesus that I love so much. And what

(35:06):
I think is that they all communicate with the the
other dimension the eye of stuff of them, and when
they come back, they interpret that to what they believe
to the most higher love that they know in their
conscious mind. And I don't think that they wrong. I mean,

(35:31):
the ones say that I saw my grandmother really saw
his grandmother, and the one that saw Jesus really saw Jesus.
Because in that dimension, in that other dimension, all these
concepts live together as one, and we only interpret them
to different individuals with our conscious brain.

Speaker 5 (35:53):
I suppose in this collective consciousness. Now, I suppose it
does depend a lot on someone belief system and also
the period of time where they experienced this. I think
a lot probably depends on that.

Speaker 1 (36:07):
Yes, exactly. Yes. For instance, my mother, my grandmother, and
my sisters, all of them have out of body experiences.
They are all good now and living, but in my family,
especially with the female in my family, they had these experiences.
And for instance, my mother, when she had her clinical death,

(36:30):
she told me that she went up in the sky
and she saw on the other side she saw Abrah
and Jacob and Itak and they communicate. And I think
that she told them because she was this is was
her belief. That's the way she interprets them. And it
doesn't mean she was an illusion. I think that she

(36:53):
really met higher beings when she went out of her body.
But for our conscious body, when he comes back, when
our consciousness is coming back to the body and we
go back to our usual sensors, we have to interpret
this non familiar higher being to something.

Speaker 5 (37:16):
Did your sister also Varis in that body experience.

Speaker 1 (37:19):
Yes, she was in a It happened to her in
the middle of surgery. Technically, what happened is that the oxygen,
the mass oxygen was off her face. She couldn't breathe,
and she started to like to die. And she tells
us that when she started to went out of her
body and saw the saw the room in the hospital,

(37:41):
and went up of the celling and go she saw
her husband that dies a couple of years before. She
She loved him very much. Her husband died in the
Sixth Day War when she was very young and only
started to be married, and she was pregnant in that situation,

(38:05):
And she told us that she saw him there and
he told her that everything is okay, and she is
going to come back, and you have the little girl
from him, and she going to talk care of her
and everything to be okay, and she woke up and
she was okay after that, And this is a similar story.

(38:30):
I think that each one of us to enslate connecting
to the higher being, Oh God, doesn't matter how you
expressed that being to be is that we have to
interpret it in a way. It doesn't mean that she
didn't met her husband, because I believe that each one

(38:54):
of us that go out of his body is conscious
face on that other dimensions, and we can meet them
in that dimension when we go out of the body.

Speaker 5 (39:06):
Now, was that first initial out of the body experience?
Was that the only time you've done that? Or have
you experimented again with it?

Speaker 1 (39:15):
No, I didn't have another out of body experience like that.
I can go to that dimension in a very relatively
easy way because I like itaches I had to do
it in a way of kind of a meditation. I
sit in a comfortable chair, I close my eyes. Sometimes

(39:36):
I hear very so tough music, and I shut down
my conscious awareness and led my conscious to be open
to the other dimension. And I can receive from that
place many things that I want. I can receive like paintings.
I used to paint pictures. Sometimes I want to have

(39:59):
a to paint a picture of an idea that it's
hard to understand, and I do that and it's amazing.
I mean I had an idea like, for instance, the
darkness is full of life. You know it's a contradiction,
but I know that that contradiction has the ability to
be and I wanted to have a picture of that.

(40:20):
So when I did that, I had a picture of
a full picture, Like I I was that any usual way.
It took me like hours to think how to paint it,
and it was it came to me finished picture with
the frame and everything, you know, with the colors, with
the everything was ready and I had only just to
copy it from my memory of the picture that I

(40:44):
saw them.

Speaker 5 (40:45):
And does it need to be certain conditions? Has it
got easier to connect in that way over time?

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Yes, there is a need to be very calm, peaceful,
not in a stress, in a very positive emotion, because
good emotion is a very strong tool to be connected.
You know, telepathy between us humans is achieved most of

(41:15):
the time between people that have a strong good emotion
or love to each other, because the empathy that we
have to each other is a very strong tool to
be communicate with each other, and I think it's the
time with our ability to communicate to other dimensions. Is

(41:36):
a very good empathy in your consciousness. I mean the
feeling feeling of love, not especially to something, but the
emotion can communicate you to that they mentioned, because that
they mentioned is made by love. Like everything is connected there.

(41:58):
And it seems that love is the most strong like
material that connects things to each other. And when you're
feel in love, you can communicate.

Speaker 5 (42:08):
I mean you would seem that over time there has
been lots of communication in different forms with these beings.
Do you think that a lot of our world has
been shaped by these ideas that have come from the
conscious realms?

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Yeah, I'm thinking about that a lot, because you know,
after a couple of years after the contact, I started
to meet people that they have the same contact to
realize the meaning of the contact, to realize because you know,
if you are only with yourself with the contact, you

(42:42):
cannot compare it and you cannot be aware of the
personal translation that it's not connected to the real thing
that happened. So I wanted to meet as much as
more people that have this same connection, and I made
a lot even in Israel or many people that I
could talk with them about that contact. I realized that

(43:05):
there are many similar like experiences with a very similar
attention from the being themselves. I think that most of
the people that have that experience have that very strong
emotion of love after if they can survive the first fear,
because most of the experiences feel that fear, especially the

(43:30):
experiences that have a face to face one and not
only in a dream or in out of body experience.
The people that have that contact face to face when
they are awake have the body reacts with a very
strong fear. But if they survive that fear and continue,

(43:50):
they continue the communication. They have a very similar experience
of understanding and communication with them and many people. People
realize that the communications attention is to help us as
human as humanity to develop to a higher ability, and

(44:12):
not because they give us something that we don't have,
only like they're triggering an memory that we have a
memory that we are very very high spiritual being, but
we don't remember that. On the other hand of that,
they gave them the realization that because they are not

(44:35):
using their white consciousness, it have a dangerous consequences. Like
before they left the room, they gave me a vision
or call it a vision, but it was like a
movie that I'm Stanley inside the movie and they see
something that is happening around and it was different from

(44:57):
the of the communication that we have because it was
not They were not passive anymore. I mean all the
communications they were passive and gave me the opportunity to
communicate to whatever I want in their consciousness. But in
the end of the contact that when they want me
to realize something, they gave me that vision of that

(45:20):
I am in a very beautiful field, like in a
forest with a green field and a very blue sky
with a beautiful sky, and they see cows near me
eating the grass with a beautiful day. And suddenly I
see a strong fire come from the horizon that burned

(45:41):
the trees and all the cows in front of me,
and everything that I saw began to be a black
ash after a fire. And it gave me a very
bad emotion of responsibility to what happened. And what I
heard from many people that have similar experience that they
have the same like warning, it's not a prophesy that

(46:04):
they want us to know. It's not a prophecy to listen,
this is what's going to happen. They want us to
realize that if we not going to use our ability
in our consciousness, we can ruin ourselves. The other experiences
have it with the vision of water. The other one

(46:26):
is it and a vision of you know, other kind
of destructions. You know, each one of us has a
different or similar kind of vision, but the meaning is
the same. The meaning is that our world, our beautiful earth,
is in contact with our consciousness because human being, and

(46:49):
if our human conscious will not be in a good
like vibration or in a good attentions, we can ruin
ourselves and nature included with it.

Speaker 5 (47:02):
Yeah, and that's something I agree with. Did you ever
get an indication of how they perceive us, how the
beings actually perceive us as humans, and does it differ
from how we see ourselves.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
I have different levels of understanding that. First of all,
in the contact, what I felt for them, because they
were open to my awareness to know their awareness, I
could have the opportunity to realize that they are treating
us in a very very good attention. They even love us,

(47:38):
They even appreciate us in a very strong way. And
I think this is because they are aware of our
consciousness that is now in a pretty limited physical world,
and it limits the awareness and consciousness and do we have

(47:59):
a very you know, not easy for us, but we
did it. Seems that they know that we did it
in purpose, like we choose to do that, like before
we came to this world, we choose to come here,
and maybe we choose to be born in that time
that we're born, in that neighborhood, in that father and mother.

(48:21):
We choose specifically where to be born and to have
these years of being with a body that probably have
a chance to learn or develop in a way that
we cannot do without the body. It seems like this
world is pretty world with the body give us a
chance to do something very special and very important to

(48:45):
our achievement and progress our consciousness as the being.

Speaker 5 (48:51):
So do you believe that your encounter with them, your
face to face encounter. Do you think it was by
chance or do you think possibly you were singled out?

Speaker 1 (49:00):
Well? I thought about it a lot in the beginning.
I didn't know if it was a chance or not.
But now I think because I realized them complicated consequences
of the meeting with them and the wise way they
did that, you know, with the two kinds of consciousness

(49:23):
that helped me to realize what is going on. It
seems that they really like planned that, and it was
a very wise way that I'm still, you know, more
than forty years after that, I still learning from the communication.
But in the same time, they gave me the opportunity

(49:44):
not to give it a serious attention. What I mean
by that, they gave me a totally opportunity to choose
if I take it seriously or not. And I realized
that from many any other experiences here in Israel, that
they realized that in the time that they're like not

(50:08):
pausing us to realize things, but trying to help us
without pushing us to realize. So in that way we
can really achieve the learning from our own choosing.

Speaker 5 (50:25):
Yeah, that makes sense. That is from the time that
you had this face to face contact in nineteen eighty
one in la in California, when did you start speaking
about it.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
I didn't tell it to no one after the contact
for years because I'm a very rational guy. I knew
that if I will tell this story to anyone, even
my close friends, I knew what the reaction will be
because I know that if a couple of days before
my contact, if my friend will come and stay to me. Listen,

(50:58):
I saw these green creatures in my room and we
had a telepathic communication that I would say that he's
he's got crazy, or maybe he took something too strong
and he got lost his mind, or I don't know.
So I didn't tell that to anyone, and it was
a good thing. I don't because you know, it took

(51:18):
many years to community to the people to realize this
is a real thing. I started to talk about that
I think five years after the contact, and the first
one that I told them about that experience was my mother.
I don't know why I told that to my mother.
Maybe we had I felt a strong urge to talk

(51:38):
about it, you know, after a couple of years and
after I realized it was totally reality and I did
not imagine or translate it in an imaginary way. So
I started to tell it to my mother, and I
remember when I told her the story, she lowered her
head that I could not see that she's crying. I

(52:02):
told her, what's the message is? She told me, Now,
I realized that when you were in LA, you probably
took drugs and you are now believing in your imagination
that was a natural reaction to that. I knew that
maybe she will react like that. It took some years that,

(52:22):
you know, after these stories became to be more popular
in the television and we have the Internet and we
have many stories, so it's more. You can talk about
that if you have the correage, but not in work
or something like that.

Speaker 5 (52:39):
After your experience, what changed in your day to day
life following this.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Well, I changed everything in a very simple way, because
this experience is really earthquake to your way of thinking
about reality. You know, only the beginning that you realize
that you're not only your body shake you totally, because
you know, I was twenty one and I didn't heard

(53:08):
about that. You know, I was not interested, so I
didn't read about these things. And when I realized that,
you know, you are not only your body, and there
are there is a different dimension, and there are these
beings and they come to visit us, and there is
God and this kind of stuff, it really shakes you

(53:29):
because all of your life you've been going in a
direction that is, you know, different, totally different way of
thinking about what you should do, what you want to do,
or what is interesting you. Before I was interested in
science and nature. All my curiosity was to know about

(53:50):
these things. But after that, when you realize that you
are a spirit that have a couple of years ago
to be in a body, and there is a reason
for that. There are beings that are more developed in
the awareness and their contacting, your attentions and your curiosity
began to go to a very different road. And it's

(54:13):
not simple because it's not common thing that your friends
or your family or people in the work think the same.
So in a way, you hide your real interest in
trying to live your living in a usual way. You know,
go to university and have a work and speak and

(54:34):
do things like you are ignoring that. But in your
inner self, with yourself, you know that what is really
going on. And what I did is that I used
it in the book. I mean, I write for many years,
I write about that meaning of the communication, I read
books about that, I meet people that have the same contact,

(54:56):
and I started to paint. And you know, in the years,
all of my attention when straight to learning this meaning
of what it means and in a simple way to
understand our consciousness. It's a very interesting and very wide
and rich area to learn. See how it connect with

(55:18):
your body and how this give them an opportunity to
heal yourself and to heal others, and all the meaning
of the communication between your spirit and your body, the
communication between them. And it's ever many, many, many roads
that you can go and have many very interesting understanding.

Speaker 5 (55:39):
From that wonderful stuff you'll see. Thank you for sharing
all that today. Now you have mentioned it, but you
have allered the book and it's called One Face to
Face Contact Experience in et Consciousness and Human Consciousness Evolution.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
Yes, this book is on the internet.

Speaker 5 (55:57):
It's all the usual places Amazon, good Reads, and you
also have a website.

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Yes, I have a website. It's called one Yo Serone
and Read Double. You know. I wrote it for many
years and I think it's very interesting and very important,
especially to people that have experiences that probably is hearing
your podcast. It helps to and give opportunity to use

(56:25):
the contact that each one of us having to open it.
Another thing I want to say that if anyone don't
have any can not afford him stuff to buy the book,
he can write my email. You can put the email
in the you know, near the podcast or the YouTube

(56:46):
and it can write me that you want to read
the book, and I will send him to I will
stand him the book that it can read without paying.

Speaker 5 (56:54):
It's okay, wonderful stuff. What I'll do is, you see,
I'll put all your links below in the description so
people can chase you up. Now you've got a few
social media as well as I'm also at them. Thank you,
You're more than welcome. Now you'll see. You know, our
listeners are very open minded, from all types of backgrounds.
Some have had experiences, some haven't. What advice would you

(57:17):
give to someone that is listening to this for the
first time.

Speaker 1 (57:22):
Well, I think for the experiences to remember that probably
from what I met, many experiences have a good experience,
and many have a bad experience or even very confusing one.
Many of them not sure that they have a real

(57:42):
experience and think maybe it was an imagination. And you know,
there are many ways of thinking about the experience, And
what I suggest is that to take in consideration, especially
for those that have a bad experience, to take to
a consideration that fear that they had in the communication

(58:03):
was a very natural physical instinct, fear that could be
translated even to a bad beings that want to control
you or to harm you, or I don't know what,
And to think about that again and to go back
to that situation and try to look at the experience

(58:24):
from a different point of view, and maybe it's going
to heal the experience and give opportunity to be open
to a lot of rich information forgotten because of the fear.

Speaker 5 (58:39):
The emotion of fear, I mean, that is a very
human emotion, isn't it, Especially something that we don't understand
or we can control exactly.

Speaker 1 (58:49):
We have this in our existence, in our survival body
that knows that. It's a very basic thing that protects us,
especially when we were, you know, living in a jungle
and we had to protect ourselves. Imagine yourself in the jungle.
If you meet something that you don't know what, it
is better to think it's something that can harm you

(59:11):
and you should run because if you don't understand, it
could be dangerous. So we still have this instinct in
our body, and those other beings are the most understudible
thing that we can imagine totally not from here, It's
totally not in the memory of our DNA. Something. Emotion

(59:34):
of fear is the most your body can develop because
of the unfamiliar thing that the face. Now, so take
consideration that the fear is very strong, but it doesn't
mean that you really meet something.

Speaker 5 (59:47):
Dangerous, wonderful stuff you've seen.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Yes, I think you're doing it very wisely because of
many things. First of all, really people that into said
in these kind of experiences probably have their own experience
even that they don't remember. They are just feeling like
very curious about this kind of experience. And what is

(01:00:14):
interesting then is what I think is the most important thing,
and not the academic research of the idea of that
if it's real or not real, or how you can
explain it important by itself, but especially for the experiences
they have over this and they want to realize their experience,

(01:00:39):
and it's very important that you do it like that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:43):
That's right. There is so many different sides to this subject,
and it's also moving at different paces as well. You
see the stuff online, the things are going on in
congress about are they are they real? Are they not real?
Do we have any do we have this technology? And
then you have the conscious side of it. You know,
you have these people which you've had, like yourself, these deep,

(01:01:03):
meaningful experiences. So the whole subject is fractured in a way,
and it's moving at different paces in different locations.

Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
But I see that too because i'm, you know, because
of the experience that I had and because I'm writing
about that. But I say that people are very curious,
and many give comments to my book and say their experiences,
but they think about that. I think that if you
look the wide reaction and development of the researching of

(01:01:33):
the UFO phenomena, you can see that most of the
people and even the researchers started to realize that the
phenomenon is really begins, really connected very strongly to our consciousness,
and it gives opportunity to learn about the consciousness itself,
and it widened the subject very much.

Speaker 5 (01:01:55):
It is, and it took them many years because a
lot of us already knew this, and I think a
lot of it was more to do with scientists kind
of had the idea, but they weren't willing to put
their ideas forward. They didn't want their peers laughing at
them with their obscure ideas. But took a while. But
it's slowly going in that direction now, which is good,
and that's how you make progress, isn't.

Speaker 1 (01:02:15):
It, yes, exactly, and I totally understand why it goes
so slow. But I think like you that because the
root of that phenomenon is really inspite our psyche and
consciousness influenced in our psychology, that it has to be
open very slow, and this is maybe the right way

(01:02:38):
to do that in a healthy way, so we don't
get used from that subject.

Speaker 5 (01:02:43):
That's right, you see. I really appreciate you coming on
sharing that for our listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:02:49):
Thank you, Thank you very much for your invitation and
this kind of conversation that we have.

Speaker 5 (01:02:55):
Thank you, you are more than welcome. You see, keeping
contact and we will speak soon. Great, take care bye
for now. Well, that's all for this week. Keep updated
and connected with the show on x, Facebook and Instagram.
And if you have an encounter that I'd like to
share on the podcast, you can email me at UFO

(01:03:18):
Chronicles at gmail dot com, or you can reach out
to me via the contact page on my website UFO
Chronicles podcast dot com. A big thank you to Yosi
for sharing tonight, and thank you all for listening. I
will be back next week. Till then, stay safe and
keep watching the skies. Goodbye,