Ep.346 Something Else Was in the Forest

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You'll be away five seventeen.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Do you want to report a UFO hanging in?

Speaker 1 (00:05):
We don't want to report every thirty one.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Do you wish to report a.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
UFO over hey, we want to one of those.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Areas thirty one.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Do you wish to find a report of any kind
of it?

Speaker 4 (00:18):
I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds time areas
thirty one?

Speaker 1 (00:23):
Me neither there.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
See if it was anybody above us to pass us,
Like thirty seconds ago, we were sending one top of
golf negative, okay, OFFI the UFO. Yeah, it's murder ten
nine o'clock. Yes, I'll just passed over.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
I go.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I don't know what it was, but it's from at
least to three thousand feet above us. See, I passed
out over the top of us.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
Ninety one one.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
You just called both to be be four.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
They're after staying.

Speaker 4 (00:58):
The airplanes here to God on an unidentified object every
liberty or call or calm on an unidentified flying object.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share
their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had
an encounter, I would like to be on the show.
You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com.

(01:47):
Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. How are you
all doing. I'm Nick Hunter and this is the UFO
Chronicles podcast. In this episode, we meet Bill coming to
us from the state of Bammer and Bill shares his
account of witnessing a UFO with his mother and sister
in the late nineteen seventies and physical evidence on his

(02:09):
property of a perfectly burned circle. And when Bill, a
former Marine, got deployed to Egglin Air Force Base in
two thousand and nine, he wasn't expecting to stumble into
one of the most secretive radar installations in the world,
site CE six. Bill is up next, but first, if
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(02:30):
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Any help is very much appreciated. Now on with the show. Hello, Bill,

(03:03):
Welcome to the podcast.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Nice to meet you.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
It's nice to meet you too. It is great to
have you with us this evening. And you're calling from
the state of Alabama.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
That's right. I've had this to be my home for
let's see, since nineteen eighty three, give or take, because
I've moved and came back a few times.

Speaker 3 (03:26):
Cool, you've been there. Well, what's your favorite thing about Alabama?

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Well, I love the summertime. I have a jeep, so
during the summer, I leave my top off and we
usually go riding into the canyon and you just can't
beat that fresh country air. And where I live is
a very scenic area. We have a lot of tourists here. Also,
the country group Alabama is actually from here in my city.

(03:54):
I went to high school with a lot of the
band members children and actually got to meet a lot
of the band members and worked a few of their
concerts that they've had over the years. There's a lot
of people here that are very musically inclined. Music is

(04:15):
one of the more popular things here. We have a
lot of city functions during the summer, you know, where
everybody gets together and it's truly a nice place to
bring up a family. Still, it's still small, about fifteen
thousand people for the population, but it's growing all the time.
We have a lot of people moving here because because

(04:36):
living here is a lot cheaper than it is up
north throughout west somewhere right well.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
Shout out to our listeners in Alabama. Great stuff. Okay, now, Bill,
you have some experiences to share with us. Would you
like to start the beginning please, sir.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah. So I was born in Athens, Georgia, is a
home for the University of Georgia is located, and my
family lived in a small town outside of Athens called
a Hole, Georgia. I think holds about twelve miles away
from Athens. Anyway, we lived there from the time I

(05:15):
was born to about nineteen seventy eight, and when I
was around four years old, we had a very strange occurrence.
One night, I was walking across this little gravel driveway
that we had in this small trailer park had about

(05:36):
eight trailers and four on each side, and at the
end of the trailer park there was a barb wire
fence with a huge pasture right beside it. And that
night I was walking across the little road that went
between the trailer park and I caught something out the
corner of my eye, and at first I thought it

(05:58):
was a fire, had a glow to it, and I
just froze looking at it. It was off to my right,
and I would say it's probably about eighty yards away,
just estimating here. I thought, well, I better talk to
somebody about this before you know, our houses burned down here.

(06:21):
And then I saw it move slightly. It was just
like slowly moving through the trees. I thought, well, it
can't be a fire. It's kind of moving and it's
not leaving a trail behind it. So I'm sitting here
just staring at this thing, just frozen, looking at it,

(06:42):
trying to figure out what it was. And then I
hear my mother calling my name over to my left,
and I looked over and she's crouched down behind the
edge of our trailer, which is across the road, and
she's waving for me to come over there. She's calling
my name. So I finally was able to move and

(07:05):
I went over and got behind her, and I kept
trying to look around her to see, you know, what
it was. I could tell she was really upset. I mean,
something was making her really nervous, and every time I
would try to look around her, she would push me
back and we ended up going inside the trailer. I

(07:29):
remember the next day we went out to the field
where I'd seen this light the night before, and we
crawled through this little barbar fence, and shortly after we
got through the fence, I see this big, huge burnt
circle in the pasture. Now, the burnt circle was more

(07:53):
centered up on the road compared to where I saw
it the night before. I don't know how many feet
it had moved over to my left, but it was
more centered up where the road went through the trailer
park where we lived. And I remember it just being
like a very surreal feeling and not really knowing what

(08:16):
to make of it. It just felt, if I had
to put a word to it, it just felt kind
of ominous to me. And I was really bewildered by
what I was seeing. And for the next several years
I just tried to forget all about it. So fast
forward to in nineteen eighty nine, we had a UFO

(08:40):
flap here in five, Alabama, which is inside the county
where I live now. We had cattle mutilations. We had
CNN and a lot of the major news networks come here.
They were doing stories about these UFOs people were seeing
here and cattle mutilation. Is Linda Moulton Howell. I talked

(09:02):
to her she said she came down for that too.
Now at that time when we had them in the
late eighties and early nineties, I don't recall seeing anything
during that time, but I do recall, you know, it
made me have a flashback out of what I saw
when I was a kid, and I never talked to

(09:23):
anybody about it. Well, shortly after I graduated high school,
I went into the Marine Corps in nineteen ninety four
and I spent four years in the Marine Corps. I
got out and was going to college. In two thousand
and three, I joined the National Guard, and shortly after

(09:43):
I joined the National Guard, my unit got activated. We
went overseas for Operation and during Freedom. I spent three
years with the National Guard. I spent a year and
a half active duty overseas. I was stop lost while
I was over there. When I came back, I got
out my son, he had been born when I was
over there, and I needed to get out of the

(10:06):
military for a while anyway, So in two thousand and
nine I went back in for the third time. Well,
when I went back in for the third time in
two thousand and nine, we got orders to go overseas
again and they sent us to Eggland Air Force Base
in Fort Walla, Florida. And when we arrived there. At
this time, I was with a military police unit. I

(10:29):
had three MOSS, which is military occupational especially I was
a military policeman. I was a shooting coach, and I
was also in food service at the time. At that time,
I was getting ready to deployed with the military police
and they sent our unit to Eggland Air Force Base.

(10:50):
And the first day we got there, we have a
meeting which they called guard Mount. Guard Mount is the
time when they tell you what you're gonna be doing
there on the base. They tell you about the different
areas of the base that you're going to be patrolling,
the different sectors. And Eglan is, I believe, the biggest

(11:14):
base in the US, if not the world. It's believed
the biggest air force base. So at the briefing there
was the guy that was head of security. He came
up and he told us, oh, yeah, by the way,
if you get a chance to patrol with the Marine
patrol that patrols the waters outside the base, you might

(11:38):
get to see some space jump because occasionally space debris
falls in the waters surrounding the base. Well, we just
kind of laughed and I didn't give it another dog.
I just remember thinking, well, I'll probably not patrol that
area if I have a choice, because I don't want
to touch anything that's not from here. So on days

(12:01):
that we were out in the field, we're supposed to
be doing a marijuana eradication. Now, we worked with the
Air Force Security Forces and their contract security people they had,
so it was US National Guard, Military Police, Air Force
Security Forces, which are their version of military police. That's

(12:25):
what the Air Force caused, their military police and then
their contract security people. Okay, so on the days we're
out in the field, we were supposed to be looking
for marijuana. The other main function we had there was
to do garrison security with the Air Force Security Forces.
In those days, we would ride on the main side

(12:46):
of the base and you know, just do regular military
police duties like give tickets for speeding parking where you're
not supposed to be parking, things like that. So one
of the days that I was working in the field,
I was teamed up with one of the Air Force

(13:07):
Security Force guys. We hit it off really well and
he said he had to go to this site. He
really didn't tell me what it was. We rode up
to this strange looking shaped building. I didn't really know
what it was at the time. We walk in the

(13:30):
building and he goes ahead of me, and I'm standing
in this like a lobby of the building and there
is an Air Force Security Forces airman to my left
at a podium. He had like a little chick in sheet.
They didn't check our IDs we got in there. We're

(13:50):
in uniform anyway, so it wouldn't mattered. And I want
to add that all military police have secret security clearance.
They have to have it because they have to be
able to go to any place on a base. If
there's a security breach, you have to call the military
police to go arrest people. So you have to be
able to go anywhere on any base your station. Well,

(14:13):
he goes ahead of me. He opens the door and
he meets a guy in a white lab coat and
they're conversing about something. And I look on the wall
of this lobby and in gold letters, I see this
science says we monitor all space activity terrestrial and extraterrestrial

(14:35):
from planet Earth. Okay, So at that very moment when
I read that, I got a funny feeling in my stomach.
I immediately recalled the incident I had as a kid.
Something deep down inside me told me to get out
of the building, like something was actually talking to me.
I don't know if it was some sort of a

(14:58):
telepathic mess. I don't know what it was, but it
was clear as day it told me to get out
of there. So I started sweating. And finally the guy
that I came there with, he comes out, walks out
there where I'm at, and we get in his truck

(15:18):
and we leave. And before we got to the side,
we were talking a lot. You know, We're talking about football.
He was telling me that he played college football for Colorado,
Colorado State, and he was a kickoff return guy, and
we were just, you know, talking about we were talking

(15:40):
about religion. That was kind of odd. He was telling
me he was a gesture with you. I had no
idea what that was, and he told.

Speaker 2 (15:47):
Me what it was.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
I never heard of that religion. And I remember, you know,
just snippets of the conversation like that we had. And
on the way back, I just remember being silent, like
I don't remember us talking at all. When we left,
and one of the days after that, I'm in a
humbye and I think, I'm just with another guarden member

(16:11):
that day and I had to stop to make a
nature call out there, and i'd stopped the humbe and
I heard something over my shoulder and I looked and
these guys were just all dressed in black. They were
sitting what we'd call Indian style, you know, left leg
over their right leg, and they had their hands on

(16:31):
their knees. And there were about twenty guys, ten in
each column, looking straight ahead, just acting like you know,
I wasn't even there. I waved at them, I let
them know that I saw, and they were just stonefaced
though time. So I got the humbie and left. And

(16:52):
one of the knights that we were there. Right before
we left, we were playing cards one night and our
first sergeant came out and made us go inside. Unexplicably,
he he said, everybody come in now. And you know,
I heard something off in the distance, like something was
in the air, but I never got to see what

(17:13):
it was. But we had no curfew, so that kind
of surprised us that he wanted us to go in.
That night, we left Egglin, and you know, it just
had a very strange sense about the whole place. It
was probably one of the strangest bases I'd ever been.

(17:34):
On one of the days I worked with one of
the security force guys there. We were eating lunch by
this runway that had a huge hangar at the end
of it, and I kept watching these planes that didn't
have any tail numbers taking off, and I asked him,
I said, what are these planes taking off of hotel numbers?

(17:56):
And he said, well, we refer to him as secret
squirrel planes. And I said, why do you refer to
them as secret squirrel planes? He said, well, the CIA
has projects that they do here, and that's the plane
they used to fly back and forth, you know, working
on all the different projects they have there. So some

(18:19):
years go by, and I got out of the National
Guard in twenty twelve. We started having some really strange
things happening around the house. One morning, I got ready
to teach, and it was middle of the winter, and
I kept feeling something like cold on the back of

(18:39):
my neck, and I looked behind my blinds and my
window was up about six inches. I started seeing like
these strange things on my back deck. It looked almost
like a division sign. It had like a bar and
it had like a little dot above it and a
dot below it. And it was a plane clean place

(19:01):
that came up on my back day. Now I have
to occasionally pressure wash my back day. This place just
showed up on my security camera and when it would rain,
it would not absorb water. Okay, Well, on my back
fence to my property, something set on my fence. It

(19:25):
was about five foot across that killed all the vegetation
underneath it, which I have pictures of it. There were
two indentations where my fences were. Something set down on
it from the top, so it wasn't like a deer bed.
Someone had suggested it was a deer bed or something. Well,
I live in the city. I have security cameras. I've

(19:48):
never seen any deer over here lay down long enough
to make a bed out of it. For one, and
I used to deer hunt, and I've never seen one
like that. The tree that was across from the indentation,
she was completely scorched on the side. I started seeing
these round, circular patterns in my grass that were probably

(20:09):
about fifteen to twenty feet across. We started watching the
security cameras and some of the stuff I recorded was
really really crazy. I started talking to my mother and
finally I brought up what happened that night in Georgia.
You know, we had never talked about it, and finally

(20:30):
I just broke down and I asked her, I said,
what was that we saw on the field that night?
And she about came out of her seat. She said,
you remember that. I said yeah, I said, I've thought
about it for years. I said, we just never talked
about it. And that's when she told me that she
had seen it land and she drew a picture of it.

(20:52):
I had a picture that she drew. She had never
drawn a picture of it in my life. We had
a NYU film student come here and interview me and
my mother for about three days. She wanted my mother
to show her what it looked like. And it didn't
take my mother just a few seconds to draw it,
and she said, once she saw a ramp come down

(21:17):
underneath this thing, that's when she got us in the
house and locked the door. So when I saw it,
I don't know if it had just landed and that
it moved over to where she saw it in the
middle of the field, But just from what I can

(21:38):
remember in it, the position that it was in or
the spot that it left on the ground. The next day,
I think it moved from where I saw it to
where she saw the ramp come down, So I think
when I saw it, it maybe had just landed, and that's

(21:59):
when she in to tell me that they had an
experience before that were Ronnie Thomas. He saw it come
over the car, And I remember the story of my
grandmother telling me, and my mother was telling me that
people were coming up missing, and they started all writing
to work together because it was just scaring them to

(22:22):
death from what was happening. These are really strange things,
and a lot of times, you know, I just think
I wished that I had never seen anything, because it's
so extraordinary to see something like that, and it's also
hard to talk about. It's hard to live with it,

(22:44):
I think, because you've seen something that you can't really
talk to other people about because they look at you
like you're crazy when you talk about it. So there's
a limited number of people that I discussed about it.
You know, if they're curious or something, I'll talk to
about it, but you know, I don't mention it to anybody.
Me and my fiance talk about it because she had

(23:06):
an experienced work her daughters one night they were coming
back from a mall, and this was at the time
we had the UFO flat in the late eighties. They
were coming back on an old country road about twelve
miles from here, and they saw these two lights shining
on cattle in a field. So they pulled over to

(23:29):
the side of the road and they watched these things
for about fifteen minutes. And she said, well they would do.
They would over like a cow and a light would
come on like a flashlight, like a real bright light.
And she said it would click off real fast, and
then would go to another one and do the same thing.

(23:51):
The light would come on, and there were two crafts
doing this, and she said at the end they both
clicked their lights off. The first one shot off. It
didn't make a sound, she couldn't hear anything, and a
few seconds later the other one took off. Now her daughter,
her youngest daughter, she got on the floorboard of the
car and started crying, want to leave. Her daughters are

(24:15):
very educated people. The one that was in the floorboard crime.
She's a teacher now and the other one is a
registered nurse. And they've never talked about it. The only
reason I know about it is because my fiancee told me.
But they've never all three of them, ever talked about it.
My mother and I. You know, I'm glad after all

(24:35):
these years we finally shared that experience with each other
because it amazed me. Forty something years went by before
we even talked about it, and it took Egglin and
a few other things happening to kind of jar my
memory about it enough to tell me, hey, this is
real and what I experienced was real and we need

(24:59):
to discuss it. It still makes my mother feel very
uncomfortable about it. The only reason she talked to me
is because I brought it up. He never talked about it.

Speaker 3 (25:08):
Good stuff that bill interesting us. Some strange stuff that's
happened in your life.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Yeah, the anomalies, the things happening in the yard. We
got to the point where we just started ignoring it
because I couldn't get anybody to come here to look
into it. I think when I would call people that
actually did this for a living, they were scared to come.
One of the photos that we took with a security

(25:34):
camera looks like an angel. It was. I took a
still photo of something that looked like people would probably
think is like a Virgin Mary type of apparition is
what it looked like. For a few nights, there was
this light shining through the rails on my back deck.

(25:54):
My back deck, SI's only like two or three feet
off the ground. There was something a light through my rails.
And this went on for two or three nights. There's
nothing that low that can shine a light through my rails.
When I went out to look at where that light

(26:15):
was coming from, there was a burntmark in my grass,
like a strip of burnt grass. And I took pictures
of this where that light was coming from. It was
some of the strangest things that I'd ever seen. And
like I said, we got to the point where we
just ignored it because it was driving us crazy. We
would come home, our back sliding glass door would be

(26:37):
open slightly, you know, just enough to let us know,
you know, that something opened it. I don't know who
or what did it. And one day we got a
visit by two guys in a black suv. What happened
was my son called me. He said he was at
Walmart with a flat tar. Walmart's on the other end

(26:59):
of town here. Well, my fiance, she had just pulled
up in the driveway and this big black suv pulled
right up to her bumper and these two guys got out.
She said one was well dressed. He had long hair,
but she said it was really well kept, and the
other guy had short hair. She said they parked right

(27:21):
up on her bumper and they were out of their
vehicle before she even got out. So that made her
kind of nervous because years ago she had a home invasion.
A guy had escaped out of jail and held her
at gunpoint, so that made her very uneasy. Anyway, they
said they were roofers. They said that they wanted to

(27:42):
inspect our roof because there had been flood damage in
the area and we were under a drought warning. We
were under a no burned ordinance when these guys came.
And I've never seen a roofer in a black, shiny
suv in Alabama. If a roofer comes to your house,
most time they're in an old, beat up truck with

(28:03):
a ladder on it. But these guys were in a
very nice suv. She said it was very black and shiny.
They were really pushy about wanting to get up on
the roof. Now I had posted some videos on YouTube
about some of the things we were capturing on the video,

(28:24):
and I had talked to some kind of astronomy group
that was over in Huntsville, and you know, the Space
Command is considering moving to Huntsville, Alabama, which is only
about seventy miles from here. I've often wondered if they
were sent to take a look at some of the
things that we were recording, because some people said, oh,

(28:45):
those are bugs. Okay, yeah, some were probably bugs, but
some weren't like anything I'd ever seen, which I still
have some of the pictures I could show you brange
of property.

Speaker 3 (28:54):
Now, are you still getting things happen?

Speaker 1 (28:57):
Probably if I actually looked at the cameras, if I
started looking at them. A lot of times we see
some really really strange things on the camera. So unless
it's something like something comes up missing or we hear noises,
we don't really look at them anymore because it was

(29:18):
driving us crazy.

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Speaker 3 (30:25):
Let's go back to your childhood experience quite a long
time ago. Now you've still got quite a clear memory
of what happened in how.

Speaker 1 (30:33):
Yeah, I was very profound what I saw, and it
just kind of burned into myself. What I saw. I've
never seen anything like it since. I've never seen anything
that looked like a glowing fire on the ground except
a glowing fire on the ground. It was such a
like a brilliant light that once you see something like that, extraordinary,

(30:58):
I guess is the best word I can come up with.
It's something I never forget, and sometimes I think it
was meant for me to see it, so I would
never forget it. I've tried over the years to just
ignore what I saw. And when my mother confirmed, you know,
that that happened, she went into detail more about it.

(31:22):
I couldn't figure out why it took us so long
to talk about it. But I've heard, you know, other
people say sometimes that happens with UFO witnesses, you know,
sometimes that they don't realize till after the fact something happened. Well,
I remembered it happening at the time, and it just
always kind of stayed in the back of my mind,

(31:45):
and I had always meant to bring it up to
my mother, but I just never did. And when I
went to Eglin and what happened. After I went to Egland,
I wanted to find out more about this place that
I saw, so I got on ready That's how ended
up on readit and lo and behold, one day I

(32:08):
saw a picture of site C six because at the
time I did not know it had an actual name
to it. And I found the article under what you
call machine porn and read it and there were these
two guys talking about the site and this one guy
said he worked there, So I sent him a private

(32:31):
message and I asked him if he'd be willing to
talk to me because I was really intrigued by what
I saw there. I saved the chat transcripts, which I
gave Turol's co Heart and News Nation. They saw the
transcripts that I had with the guy that worked there.
He said he worked there from nineteen eighty one to
eighty four. He described the place on the inside, so

(32:54):
I knew that he was telling the truth, and he
told me during the Gulf Breeze sightings, side CECI was
tracking him because he had friends that worked there after
he left. He said that they had begged him to
stay there. He said that when they were observing those radars,
the radar texts, if you fell asleep, he said, the
gardener coming there and escort you out with weapons. So

(33:18):
it was very imperative that you stayed awake and watch
the screens. And that radar is so powerful it contract
objects twenty two thousand nautical miles into space inside of
a break fruit, and it contracted thousands of objects at
one time. And you can actually google this and it'll
tell you about it. Now Chris Mellan. He has came

(33:41):
out and said many times about the capabilities of the
radars we have in the US, but he won't ever
call SIGHTSEE six by name. I've noticed now what I believe,
and this is something that came up today on an
interview I did, is why Chris Mellan won't mention Site
SEA by name. Well, maybe he signed an NDA where

(34:04):
he can't. He can only talk about maybe public knowledge
that they're willing to share with the public, because, like
I said, you can google Site C six and it'll
tell you all these capabilities I just told you. But
what they want to you is that they also track
you aps, which they have the capabilities to do there,

(34:24):
and the radar tech that worked there told me that
they tracked them. He also got into HARP, which I
don't know much about. HARP. All I know is some
kind of weather manipulation type of program that the military had.
Supposedly they gave it over to some civilians to work

(34:46):
it now, but he knew a lot of the technical
parts of it and explain to me about a little
bit about HARP. And he also told me one of
his friends that work there died, like they told him
the guy had committed suicide, but he said there was
never a body like they never had a funeral for him.

(35:08):
And he worked at the site and he said one
night when he worked there, they had brought something covered
on a truck up there to the site. And he
said they never did that before, and he thought that
was really odd. But he was getting on up there
in his years. The only reason he agreed to talk
to me is because I was military as well. He

(35:31):
just confirmed just some of the hunches I had about
the place. A lot of units would put, you know,
some kind of mission statement like that up on the wall,
like we monitor all space activity terrestrial and extraterrestrial from
planet Earth, as like a joke. Well, I kind of
felt like there was more to that, and I was

(35:52):
right when he confirmed my suspicions. After talking to him,
and I saved all the chat in scripts that I
had with him, and I gave him to Ross Cauthart,
and I also gave him to Jeremy Corbel and George Knapp.
I was talking about a lady by the name of
Amy Escridge, now Amy Escridge. She was working on some

(36:16):
kind of propulsion system in Huntsville. Now, what's interesting about
her is after she died, David Brush came forward in
Huntsville where she was working, and that's where he first
approached Jeremy Corbel and George Napp because he got nervous.
I believe she was one of the people that David

(36:37):
Grush was referring to that was killed trying to keep
this stuff a secret. And if you look on YouTube
under Amy Escridge, she made some videos claiming that people
were trying to kill her. And I believe this is
what spooked David Grush into coming out and spilling the
beans and becoming a whistleblower. She's a very interesting person

(37:01):
and I think her death is what put David Grush
over the edge to come out and blow the whistle
on all this stuff. He knows it all originated over
in Huntsville, and I think it's very interesting also that
after we had that big UFO flap in the late
eighties and we had cattle mutilations also, and there's videos

(37:21):
on YouTube with interviewing people a combination of all these
articles and interviews that people have given over the years
about UFOs, and they had the five UFO on there
had an interview with the police chief and some of
the police that were the cattle mutilation investigations. Very interesting.

(37:44):
Five UFO, it's fyffe UFO. How long were you we
were there? My unit was there for two weeks for
the Alabama National Guard. That's designated Alabama National Guard Training Site.
And it's still there. I was down at Eggland back
in April or wedding. There's still signs saying, you know,

(38:06):
this way like to the Alabama National Art Training Site.
So it's still there for all these years.

Speaker 3 (38:12):
And it's a powerful radar they got. So yeah, so
twenty twenty two thousand norqual miles. So that is about
twenty five thousand regular miles, isn't it.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah, And see that radar extends all the way to
the Quaduling Atoll in the Pacific Ocean. See, so they
basically have a three sixty view of the Earth and
they connect to other radars. And when they're telling people
that all they have is these grainy photos of these UFOs,

(38:48):
you know, when they have these UAP hearings, you know,
it's it's a lot. Basically, it's just straight up lock.
They have very high resolution photos of these craft and
if they can track an object the size of a
break for twenty two thousand nautical miles out. You know,

(39:09):
they've got better photos of UAPs and see that also
shows you something else that tells you they know from
where they come from and where they go once they
get here. See, that's why they don't want to acknowledge this,
because it opens up a whole other can of worms
when they acknowledge this fact. Sy.

Speaker 3 (39:30):
Yeah, so that kind of radius that would probably extend
out to geostationary orbit quite a way. They probably know about,
you know, just about every seatellite orbit in the Earth.

Speaker 1 (39:43):
And like I said, they can track thousands of objects
at once, and if something shows any kind of intelligent control,
they're going to see it there.

Speaker 3 (39:53):
Yeah, and I'm sure they get a lot of it.
So the statement you saw in the wall was we
monitor or space activity terrestrial and extraterrestrial from planet Earth.

Speaker 1 (40:05):
And that's it. That's right. And what's funny. Doctor Stephen
Grier just came out with a documentary and I got
invited to one of his conferences a few years ago.
It was the National Press Club conference he had up
in Washington, d C. And they sent me an email

(40:26):
asking me if what I saw was ARV I didn't
know what that was. I was like, what is an ARV.
I saw UFO, but I don't know what an ARV is.
It was an alien reproduction vehicle. And I'm glad I
didn't go because there was a guy there claiming that
he was in Indonesia and they were dropped off there

(40:48):
without communication devices, and they were seeing bodies loaded into
a UFO and it was just a crazy story. And
the guy claimed to be in the Marines and said, well,
for one, Marines wouldn't be dropped off on a real
world mission without a radio, for one, And that would

(41:09):
never happen. And if it did happen, other Marines that
were with him would have vouched for his story. I
have plenty of friends that vouched for the integrity of
things that I say that I still keep in touch
with to this day, and they have passed this guy's
story off as legit. And I'm here to tell you

(41:32):
it would never happen the way he described it. And
this guy was basically kicked out of the Marine Corps.
It went ua, which is unauthorized absence, and he received
a general under Honorable Circumstances discharge, which means he didn't
have the option to reenlist. He had to get out
after his enlistment because of something he did. It was

(41:53):
a disciplinary issue. And they've tried selling this story to
the public and you won't find one marine that believes
that story.

Speaker 3 (42:03):
But you know, you're always going to get people which
do that, which come forward and flights of fantasy and
all that, and it kind of sells it really because
it might is the water a bit from people which
you know want to come forward exactly.

Speaker 1 (42:18):
And you know what happens when people report those stories
as legitimate, It destroys their own credibility. Ross Cothart has
come out telling stories about this guy that claims that
he can summon UFOs and what happens is he trusts somebody.
Somebody's telling him a story that he wholeheartedly believes hook

(42:42):
Line and Sinker, and what they're doing is they're destroying
his credibility because people are smarter than that they can
see through these stories. He doesn't realize he's destroying his
own credibility by reporting these ridiculous stories, but he thinks
the person he's talking to he can trust. And the

(43:04):
stories have gotten more ridiculous over the last few months
than I mean they have been in the past, and
they keep getting I mean just crazy. Just a lot
of people have lost interest and stop subscribing to a
lot of these people because the stories have become so outrageous,

(43:25):
And that's what the intelligence community wants to happen. They
want people to lose interest in these stories. And when
people hear these, you know, outlandish stories like that, they
start thinking, well, I keep trust this guy. He's telling
this crazy story, and it's all by design. It keeps

(43:46):
the subject matter quiet because people stop believing them and
they wonder, hey, where did my viewership go? Well, you're
telling stories about some guy that says he can summon
UFOs and one that claims that alien bodies or human
bodies were loaded into a UFO. My question was, if

(44:08):
you were down in the jungle and you see a
UFO and a clearing, the helicopter that comes and picks
you up is going to be able to see that
UFO from the air? Correct? That's the problem I have
with that story too. And what if somebody gets wounded
out there? How are you going to call for them
to be picked up? If you were dropped off with

(44:29):
no communications whatsoever. As the story goes what if you
have to leave the area early. There's so many things
that could happen. And that's also against Marine Corps field doctrine.
And you can't get one guy that served with him
to back that story. That's especially with Marines.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
I think, you know when they put a call light
for whistledlows and that it basically brings a whole crowd out.

Speaker 1 (44:56):
I spoke with Ross. You know, he interviewed me and
at the end he said, I don't believe you saw
a thing, and I thought, well, I just filled my
guts to this guy. And you know, it was my
first big interview, and you know, it wasn't a podcast interview,
it was national news, and I think he kind of

(45:17):
failed to realize how nervous I was talking about it.
And I'm sure my nervousness came out in that interview
because it was the first time I'd ever talked about it,
especially nationally, and you know, it took a while they
were trying to get lighting right, and it was just
very off putting to me. What I was going to
do was tell Ross my story and be done. He

(45:39):
kept interrupting what I was trying to tell and it
was just it didn't go like what I thought it was. So,
you know, now more just comfortable talking about it on
podcasts because I can relax more, the interview's not rushed.
I just feel like people hear me out more and
better on podcasts than what he was doing. And and

(46:02):
I'm not going to lie. I mean, it hurt a
little bit because he has, in my opinion, aired some
ridiculous stories, especially lately, and I think he'll air that,
but he won't air what I told him. So I
think it all really came down to how nervous I was.
I mean, I wasn't ratings material. What he wanted to

(46:23):
know was if I saw uf on Eglin. That was
what he kept asking. I was like, no, I didn't
see one. When night there was something blind around and
they wanted us come inside because they didn't want us
to see whatever it was. But I told him, I
said I couldn't see it. That wasn't what the main
thing I was trying to get across to him. What

(46:44):
I was trying, you know, mainly to make him understand
was the capabilities they have at Egglin and what they're
doing there and all these grainy photos that they show
when they have these UAP hearings, they said, oh, this
is this is all we captured, you know, by the cockpit.
You know, they'll show cockpit pictures, you know, these grainy

(47:06):
photos and things, which I'm surprised they admit to that much.
I know that they have the capabilities to have better
resolution pictures that they have. Chris Millan talks about it
all the time, but he won't mention Sight C six
on Egglin by name. That He'll pretty much tell you

(47:28):
the capabilities that our radars have, but he always stopped
short of saying Sight C six specifically.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
When it comes to the grainy stuff. I mean, you know,
they're not really going to release any good, juicy stuff
to the public. You know, it's just it's just a
reality of it.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
They would have to answer a lot more questions if
they did exactly.

Speaker 3 (47:49):
As far as the capabilities of some of these sites,
I mean, I'm sure there's sites around the US, probably
around the world that are very high advanced Egglin C six,
I mean, it's it's pretty well knowniced. I absolutely believe
they're already monitoring the skies things from outside.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Yeah, I'm just I'll talk now, maybe once a month
or something like that. I tried to contact Jeremy Corbel too,
and the only email I got back was, uh, yeah,
your story is a little piece of the puzzle. And
I'm like, man, you know, I'm telling you here that
they have these capabilities, you know, and they're telling the

(48:29):
American public they don't. This new whistleblower, this brown guy
that Corbell interviewed, he came out and he was talking
about they have the capabilities to monitor these things and
that God exists. And they did a two hour segment

(48:49):
and all I got out of that two hour segment
was that they have the capabilities to monitor UFOs and
that Seanka Patrick Lotte. It took them two episodes to
say those two things.

Speaker 3 (49:01):
Does not surprise me. So when did you know you'd
have this very early experience. Did you have much of
an interest in the subject in UFOs and.

Speaker 1 (49:10):
That not really?

Speaker 4 (49:11):
No.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
I always when I was growing up, you know, I
was too busy playing sports. I was in the boy Scouts,
you know, doing things like that. I was never interested
in UFOs at all. I always thought that basically, I
always thought that, you know, people that claimed all this
stuff were crazy. That's what I always, you know, felt

(49:34):
like and then I started, you know, having some memories about,
you know, what happened to me when I was a kid,
and thought, well, maybe they're not so crazy. And when
my mother verified it. My sister was with us too,
but she was way too young to remember it. She
was only like a year or two old when it happened.
And some of the things that have been seen over

(49:57):
the years, like the big UFO flap we had here
in the late eighties and calmulations we had in the area,
those are just things you can't ignore.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
So when did you start thinking that maybe the experience
you had in seventy seven, seventy eight, it was maybe
maybe could be related to the subject.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
When I started being aggravated by the subject, like when
we started seeing things on the cameras, things in the yard,
just things that would not let it go, Like it
was like it was saying, Hey, pay attention to me,
you know, pay attention. It just got to the point

(50:37):
I couldn't ignore it anymore, and so I started going
over things you know, that I saw personally as a kid,
that my family experienced as well. So multiple people in
my family experienced it, Multiple people here in my city
and county experienced things. And then what I saw at

(50:57):
egg Line, and that puting on the cake for me
that hey, the government knows these things are here, so
why the cover up? You know, why do they not
want people to know about it? I have a good
idea of why they don't want to talk about it,
and I think it's because these things aren't good. I mean,

(51:20):
if they're taking people's cattle and there's people that came
forward and said they were abducted, that's not something that
you would want to share with the public to make
them feel safe. Their job is to make us feel safe.
And if they came out and admitted all this stuff,
it's true, it would it would cause panic. I mean,

(51:40):
the more I've learned about it, the more I understand
why they want to keep it quiet. But I would
just like to know, just for the sake of knowing,
you know, hey, what is it? So I can quit
wondering about it. That's why I say a lot of
times I wished I hadn't seen anything.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
And when you spoke to your mother about it, and
she and said to you that she described something landing
with free legs and a round, well.

Speaker 1 (52:05):
It shocked me when she mentioned all that stuff and
she drew it out. I mean it didn't take her
a few seconds, and she drove it like she drew
it and like she just saw it a second ago.
And I can understand why she drew it so fast,
because what I saw was so profound myself that I'll
never forget it as young as I was. You know,

(52:26):
there's some things that are traumatic when you see and
when you're a kid that you'll never forget. That just
kind of and I think when you when you experience
things as a child, they stay with you longer anyway.
You know, you could when you grow up to be
an adult. A lot of times you forget what she
did yesterday. When you're a kid, when you see something

(52:51):
that's really extraordinary, you don't never forget that. You need
like traumatic experience you have as a child, I mean,
it stays with you for life. And that's one of
those experiences that stay with me. It's something that I've
talked to my son about it. I don't really talk

(53:13):
about it around him very much because I don't want
to freak him out about it. The only people really
that I have in depth conversations with is people that
have experienced these things, like you know, my mother. My
mother and I we've since kind of drifted apart. Sadly enough,

(53:36):
we don't speak very much anymore, but we have this
experience that will bond us forever together.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
Yeah, I'm sorry to hear that. Hopefully you can get
that get that back on track again. You've never ever
mentioned anything which happened prior to the experience in whome.

Speaker 1 (53:53):
What happened was me and my fiance had talked about.
We just happened to mention our experiences with each other.
Her daughters never ever have talked about what they saw together,
but me and my fiance shared our own experiences together,
so we have a bond. We've had sightings together. We

(54:16):
saw something a few months back going down the main
street of town that blew us away. We pulled over
on the side of the road. There were these thousands
of objects in the sky. They were swirling around. They
looked silver in color. They looked like kind of like

(54:36):
the wind bow. They looked like a flock of birds,
but they were really high in the sky. They weren't birds,
but we saw them go straight up. We saw them
swirl around and then they split in two. But when
they split in two, they swore around on the ends.
Then they joined back together, and then they shot right
back up out of the sky. We pulled over. I
got video of it. I got a steel picture that

(55:00):
shows like six or seven things in the still. They
look white, and I couldn't really get them a good
picture of them. We couldn't believe nobody else was seeing
them because we just sat there with our mouth open.
It was broad daylight. There was hardly a cloud in
the sky when we saw it. And I've seen videos

(55:21):
over the internet where these things have been spotted in
like Ohio. I saw one and then over in I
think it was Florida, and people are like, what is this?
And it was the same thing we saw, except ours
were more together. They looked they moved like a flock
of birds move almost. But we One night, I was

(55:45):
out on my back porch with the night vision. I
have night vision, and this was when they were having
all the drone sightings. Here something that looked like a
drawn It flew over the house and it hovered below
this house next to mine, and I put the night
vision on it, and this red beam shot past us

(56:08):
and it made us both jump when it did it,
and a few nights after that. It was about two
thirty three o'clock in the morning. I heard this buzzing
sound and I looked out the blinds and there was
something hovering over at my fence line. And I was
just tired. I didn't care what it was that I
could tell us over and over the fence right there

(56:31):
because it was loud enough. It woke me up and
I just went back to bed. There are so many
things like that that if you're looking for it, you'll
find it, and I just got tired of looking for it.

Speaker 3 (56:43):
So what made you want to come out and share
your account with us?

Speaker 1 (56:48):
Because I know the stories that the government is telling people,
like when they had these UAP hearings and they play
dumk that that's not the truth. I mean, if you
know the capabilities of what they can do at Eglin,
you can put two and two together and you know
that they're not telling the truth. And the big question

(57:10):
is why, And you know that it's real. What real is?
I don't know. That's a big question. What is this
real thing? How much do they know? But I do
know enough to know that they have a lot of knowledge.
If that radar facility at Eglin's been there since I

(57:31):
think nineteen sixty five, so it's been there a long time.
It barned once and they rebuilt it. I think people
have a right to know that the government knows a
lot more than what they're willing to admit to. And
if you know where to look, you know where to
start asking questions.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
I think a lot of people have a little piece
of a puzzle. Do you believe that the government are
going to be the ones that release stuff or do
you think is going to come from people just sharing storm.

Speaker 1 (58:00):
From a normal person if it comes out? Because what
what people don't understand why Egglin is so important, Because
if you realize they can do that, you know that
they know where they come from and where they go
once they get here. I'll give you an example. Lonnie
is the more you've ever heard of Lonnie is the

(58:21):
more the policeman. Ye. Yeah, this core of anciding. There
were government people that showed up at that site before
he called anybody. And what I understand, government people, military
people showed up there where he had that incident before

(58:42):
he even called for backup. That's one reason I think
it goes back that far that they've been tracking on
that far back. They that's why they know when something
goes down, that's why they are able to scramble people
so quickly to get them. You know, David Grush come
out and said that these things that they had, several

(59:05):
of them craft that is and if they can track
objects like that, then they know when they crash, they
know where to go get them. And it really makes
sense of how they get to places so quickly. That's
why Egglin's important. I've had some really over the top

(59:26):
criticisms and people sending me ugly message. I could show
you some very ugly messages I've gotten on Reddit talking
about this stuff. I mean timber Chet, congressman from Tennessee,
you know, he likes to say when you're over the target,
that's when they start shooting at you. And I believe
I'm close to the truth that they don't want to

(59:47):
talk about because I've just gotten some really over the
top criticism just by saying that they track UFOs from
Egland C six. I mean, if there's nothing to that,
why criticize me so harshly? You see what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
But then again, you're all singing at people which say, yeah, yeah,
I did spend a little bit of time there, you know,
and this is what I witnessed, this is what I heard.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
Yeah, a lot of people that have talked to me
that were stationed on England say they've seen a lot
of crazy things there. Now, I never really saw any
crazy things there except for the radar side. I try
to be as honest as I can, you know, I
don't try to inflate my story or exaggerated or anything.
I just try to say, hey, this is what I saw,

(01:00:31):
this is what I believe. And that's after me being
a military policeman for ten years. And I do have
a bachelor's degree in criminal justice with a minor in psychology,
so you know, I do know a little bit about
you know, investigative work and trying to find out the
answers to things. This place just really got my attention.

(01:00:55):
But had I not experienced what I did when I
was in Georgia when I was, I would have never
gave sat C six a second thought. I'd have just
been like, oh, this is a cool place, and I'd
have never dug any deeper. I would have never tried
to find out more about the place and say that's
what I was trying to tell ralse I could not
tell one story without telling the other. You see what

(01:01:17):
I'm saying. They were just one contributed to the other.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
Well, of course, I mean their experiences that have happened
to you. Very often the case. I've had hundreds of
guests on here over the years, and you know, they
come on really just to say one story which happened
maybe a few years ago. But then they started the
beginning they say, well, this is something which happened to
me and my mother when I was a kid, and
then this happened all these ever strange occurrences and experiences,

(01:01:42):
you know, and it's still part of the puzzle really.

Speaker 1 (01:01:44):
All right, Well, it was good speaking with you man, Bill.

Speaker 3 (01:01:48):
I really appreciate you coming on and sharing all that
for our listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:01:51):
Are you welcome?

Speaker 3 (01:01:52):
It was great meeting you tonight. Okay, take care of yourself.

Speaker 1 (01:01:55):
All right, have a good day, man. Thank you.

Speaker 3 (01:01:58):
Well, that is all for this episode. Keep updated and
connected with the show on x Facebook and Instagram. And
if you have an encounter that you'd like to share
on the podcast, you can email me at UFO Chronicles
at gmail dot com, or you can reach out to
me via the contact page on my website UFO Chronicles

(01:02:18):
podcast dot com. A big thank you to Bill for
sharing tonight, and thank you all for listening. I will
be back next week. Till then, stay safe and keep
watching the skies. Goodbye to

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
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