Ep.350 Voices and Visitors

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You'll be away five seventeen.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
Do you want to report a UFO hanging in?

Speaker 3 (00:05):
We don't want.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
To report every thirty one.

Speaker 4 (00:08):
Do you wish to report a.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
UFO over hey, we want to one of.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
Those areas thirty one.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Do you wish to find a report of any kind
of it?

Speaker 1 (00:18):
I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds time areas
thirty one?

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Me neither there.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
See if it was anybody above us to pass us,
Like thirty seconds ago, we were sending one top of
golf negative, okay, OFFI the UFO. Yeah, it's murder ten
nine o'clock. Yes, I'll just passed over, I go. I
don't know what it was, but it's from at least

(00:45):
to three thousand feet above us. See, I passed right
over the top of US ninety one one.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
You just called up to me before.

Speaker 5 (00:56):
They're after staying the airplanes.

Speaker 1 (01:00):
He to God on an unidentified object every Liberty four
call or calm on an unidentified flying object.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share
their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had
an encounter, I would like to be on the show.
You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com.

(01:47):
Hello everyone, and welcome to the show. How are you
all doing. I'm Nick Canter and this is the UFO
Chronicles podcast. Tonight, on the show, we hear from two
guests on opposite sides of the Atlantic whose lives have
been marked by strange encounters. First, Peter from Dorset, England,
recalls a flight from Manila in the Philippines to London

(02:11):
when passengers were suddenly ordered to close their window shutters. Curious,
he left his half open and watched as a fast
moving object shot beneath the plane. What followed was even stranger,
a disembodied voice in his mind instructing him to tell
them you saw too. Decades later, the memory remains as

(02:33):
vivid and puzzling as the day it happened. Then were
joined by Jimmy in Ohio, who grew up with nightly
visitations in his apartment, shadow figures at his bedside, and
ghostly apparitions in the doorway, But after moving into a
new house, his experiences shifted into the realm of UFOs.
He describes lights descending through the ceiling and repeated face

(02:57):
to face encounters with a towering mantis, life like being
two voices, two continents, and two very different lives, but
both Peter and Jimmy carry the same enduring question what
exactly is visiting us and why Peter is up next?
But first, if you enjoy the show and you would
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Now on with the show. Hello, Peter, welcome to the show. Thanks,

(03:51):
thank you for joining us today. And you're calling from Dorset,
United Kingdom.

Speaker 4 (03:56):
That's right, beautiful warm day, beautiful.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
Warm day, beautiful part of the country. Okay, now, Peter,
you have an experience to share with us. Would you
like to start the beginning please, Sir Sure.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
I was flying back from Manila to London and we
were way, way, way above the cloud and I heard
the pilot up front and do an announcement over the
tannoy that all the air hostesses must walk up the
aisle and tell people to close the shutters on the

(04:29):
windows because we were going to fly through turbulence. Now,
I've flown a number of times before, and I know
closing the shutters would have no effect on the feeling
of the turbulence. And I'm kind of inquisitive. I wondered
why you would have to close the shutters, so I

(04:49):
half closed mine before they got to me, and I
saw this thing fly under the airplane. It was going
incredibly fast. I didn't see any flight surfaces because it
was moving so fast. It was flying straight in the level,
not curved as a missile would have done or and

(05:10):
it flew under the aeroplane and left this huge moiling
gray cloud after it, and flew into the distance over
the horizon. Then the captain came over the tannoy again
to say that we'd flown through the turbulence and would
the hostesses please opened all the shutters. But the problem

(05:33):
was to me is there was no turbulence, none at all.
So I believe that they wanted the shutters closed on
both sides of the airplane because they didn't want the
people on the airplane to see whatever it was coming
or going. It was so low under the aeroplane. If

(05:57):
it had been two hundred feet higher, it would have
gone straight through the airplane. Another linked story to that
is this is going to sound really strange, but I
guess we are involved in a strange subject. I looked
away from the window after the thing had gone, and

(06:20):
I swear I heard a voice in my head. This
is going to sound insane, but it said to me,
tell them you saw too. Quite a while later, I
thought to myself, no, I only saw one of whatever
it was. But then years later a friend of mine said, no,

(06:40):
what if it was somebody else saw it? I saw
it as well as somebody else, and I've often wondered
whether that was true. I tried to track the airline
that it was on, but it's all kind of lost
in time now, but it's always intrigued me. What it
was I don't know, and it's been a fascination for years.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
Good stuff, Peter. Interesting. You're flying out of Manila. I guess, yeah.
How long was you into your flight before you witnessed this?

Speaker 4 (07:17):
Probably three hours something like that.

Speaker 3 (07:19):
I would think, yeah, three hours, Okay, you had done
this flight before, Yes, this was the second flight, and
below you could see clouds.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
Yes, white clouds, and blue water and blue.

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Water, So I'm guessing you may have still been over
the South China Sea.

Speaker 4 (07:37):
Probably yeah, But it's always one of those things that
has puzzled me. I'm an inquisitive person by nature, and
I just want to know what it was that.

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Came over the tannoy. The hostesses were up and down
the aisles. How did they seem to you? Were they
just acting routinely or was there any sense of panic?

Speaker 4 (08:00):
It seems to me they kind of move fairly quickly,
but it seemed routine. I've often wondered if there are
any other aircraft who do that. If something is in
the air that they don't know, do they tell their
passengers to close the shutters and the windows. If they do,
it could be a pattern or something that the aircrews

(08:21):
are told to do. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
Obviously you won't be able to remember the flight number
anything that, But do you remember the airline you're on?

Speaker 4 (08:30):
I think it was. I think it was Philippine Air
I think okay?

Speaker 3 (08:34):
And do you know of any other pastures that might
have seen it?

Speaker 4 (08:37):
I guess if you think about it, the air hostess
hadn't reached me yet, otherwise they would have told me
to completely close the shutter, So I guess there's the
possibility of people behind me who hadn't shut the covers.
I don't know, do you see what I mean?

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Okay, so what Yeah? So well, the attendants were coming
down the aisle or telling everyone to shut there.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Towards me, yes, towards you. Okay, there's nobody going, there's
nobody going the other way. They were all coming from
the front of the aeroplane towards me, and I just
I just thought the order of closing the shutters was
odd because what effect would it have on feeling the turbulence.

(09:20):
It would just scare the people more because they didn't
know what was going on. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Of course, admittedly, whenever I had been on a flight
with heavy turbulence, it's always really been at night. Yeah,
the windows have always been down.

Speaker 4 (09:33):
Yeah, but this was during the day. I remember it
quite distinctly because I looked out and I could see
the clouds below me and water, and then I heard
the announcement and I thought to myself, that's odd. What's
the point of that. The usherettes walked up the aisle
getting people to close the shutters. I half closed mine,
and seconds later I saw this thing fly under the

(09:54):
aeroplane about two three hundred feet below, and it flew away,
flew under the wing and away towards the back of
the airplane and flew onto the horizon of course.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Okay, so you were on the right side of the plane,
is that correct.

Speaker 4 (10:09):
I was on the right hand side of the plane,
sitting on a seat opposite the wing, if you understand,
And I saw the thing pass under the airplane and
under my side of the wing, and it left behind
it like a round smoke tube basically with smoke curling
and moiling inside it. You would see more than that

(10:32):
if it was a rocket or a missile or but
who would be firing at a passenger jet that high?
That's what always puzzled me.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
Yeah, I mean in that region, hopefully no one you
saw this object. Did you see it approach of the
wing before it passed on?

Speaker 1 (10:49):
No?

Speaker 4 (10:50):
No. I think that's why the captain got the air
hostesses to close the window hatches, because they didn't want
people to see it coming. Because it was so close
under the airplane, people would have panicked.

Speaker 3 (11:05):
I mean if it had been or possibly a missile
or even another plane, which is extreme. I think three
miles is the distance planes have to keep away from
each other. So if that's the case, it was either
a missile or that or never plane, then there should
definitely be an instant report for it.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
Yeah, but it was really strange because it was unexpected,
totally unexpected. There was no there was nothing from it at.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
All other than the trail that it left. Could you
make out any shape to the object?

Speaker 4 (11:36):
No, no, no flight services, nothing. It was just this
following cloud, just this. It was moving so fast that
I couldn't see anything. And it was unexpected as well.
You know, if you would be able to see if
it was a plane because of the flight services as
it flew away some kind, But this was nothing. It

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was like a ball bearing was the end of a
smoke cloud. It was moving fast, so fast, I couldn't
see any flight surfaces, rocket engines, jets, nothing.

Speaker 3 (12:10):
And how long before the pilot came back on the
intercom again.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Well, as I say, the thing disappeared behind the aircraft
and it must have flown over the horizon. And then
the pilot came back and said, okay, you can open
all the window hatches now, all the window covers. The
turbulence has gone. But as I said earlier, there was
no turbulence, none at all. It was very strange.

Speaker 3 (12:37):
I know different airlines have different procedures and things they
do when it comes to closing the blinds and that.
But to any listeners out there, you know, if you
do have experience of working on airliners, if you can
give us some kind of idea of what prosceidures can
be when it comes to turbulence and popping your windows
downing because I know it does vary. I know they

(12:58):
do want to put them down to get you to
go leap, I know that.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
Right, But this was during the day, so yeah, And
if there's any this is a procedure when something happens
like that that they can't explain. Maybe the co pilot
saw it coming first and he told the pilot, and
then the pilot told the hostesses to close the windows
because the co pilot, I'm getting on the left hand side,

(13:24):
we'd see it coming first. And the radar, of course,
if it was available on radar. But is there a
procedure for airlines to do something like that if something
unexpected turns up?

Speaker 3 (13:36):
It makes you wonder because I don't know if I
had been a missile or something like that. I'm not
sure they would even have time to consider doing that
if you see what I mean, Yeah, the more likely
going to try and attempt some direct action.

Speaker 4 (13:51):
If itsisly reserve whatever. Yeah, but it didn't look like
a rocket. There was no rocket body, just this whatever
it was, in this cloud trail behind it. You know,
I've seen videos on the YouTube where there are elongated clouds,
fast moving elongated clouds. I've often wondered whether it could

(14:13):
be something like that. I don't know, but it's it's
just a puzzling experience all the round.

Speaker 3 (14:19):
I mean, you said there wasn't any turbulence. Did you
do you remember getting any sense of vibration or static
or anything else unusual like that.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
No, nothing at all. No, just this insane voice in
my head. It was there, and it said, tell them
you saw too. It's always puzzled me who them is?
Who is them? I don't know, no idea. Maybe I
will encounter whoever them is sometime. I don't know. I

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just don't know.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
How did that voice tell them use or too? How
did that voice come into your head? Was it more
like the inner monologue that we have.

Speaker 4 (15:03):
It was just there. It was a male voice. It
just said tells them you saw too, As I say,
at the time, I was puzzled. I looked back into
the airplane. I thought myself, No, I only saw one,
as this thing flying into the aeroplane. I didn't know
what it was, and I asked myself, well, who is

(15:25):
two that? Who is them? I don't know? And then
years later a friend of mine said, no, what if
the two meant not two items two things, but two
as in somebody else seeing it? But who is the them?
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Well, I was going to say that if you had
maybe spoken to anyone, any given pastors around you on
the flight, or even possibly the flight attendants or even
the pilot, because that could be what they were possibly
referring to tell them you saw two.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
Two, Yeah as well.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
I saw it as well.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Yeah. Yeah, it would be interesting to find other people
on the flight if that ever happened, and see if
you can find somebody behind me, because the air hostesses
hadn't got to them yet, so they might have seen
it too. I don't know. Maybe put out some kind
of appeal exactly. Yeah, keep it anonymous, it does.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
Happen, where we put an account. And then maybe a
couple of years later, we'd have someone email in and say, yeah,
I was on that road I witnessed the same thing.
So your flight was may.

Speaker 4 (16:34):
Quite a few years ago now, maybe sixteen seventeen years ago. Now, yeah,
it's quite some time ago.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Okay, yeah, okay, So you know, in a slim chance
that you were on this same flight from Manila to
London back in the early two thousands and you remember
seeing something from your plane window or heard someone that
had done do get in contact. I know it's yeah,
it's a bit of a long shot.

Speaker 4 (17:01):
But it was possible. And somebody who remembers the captain
coming and saying close the shutting because that was unusual
because of turbulence.

Speaker 3 (17:10):
Yeah, anyone out there that has worked on a flight
and is aware of these particular procedures. Yeah, again, just
to shoot us an email and see if we can
kind of get an idea that has this experience. Did
it change the way you feel about flying?

Speaker 4 (17:25):
No, I didn't know. I'm quite you know, I don't
mind flying at all. A lot of people don't like
the takeoffs of the landing, but I enjoyed all. I
have a secret thing that in a former life I
was a spitfire pilot, So that's just a bit of
a fantasy, but I love flying.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
Yeah, how do you ever have any strange experiences like
this before? Not necessarily on a plane, but I had.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
I went to disney World in Los Angeles many years
ago and we were stood there's a statue of Walt
Disney and Mickey Mouse in the center of the park,
the whole crowd of us. I heard a guy next
to me say, WA's that and he pointed it up
and this light moved very quickly in a straight line

(18:13):
and then turned a right angle, and that we all
had to move down to the lake where the parade
was going to be. And I actually tried to follow
the crown and look up at the same time, and
I saw it move again and it went in another
straight line, turned a right angle and shot away. So
that was odd. Planes can't do that.

Speaker 3 (18:35):
Indeed, no they can't. We're not the ones we know
about at the minute. They may have some no, some
tech going on that that's not quite in the public
domain yet.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Yeah. Yeah, as I say, I've been fascinated by the
subject since I was a kid, And I guess it's
the not knowing but wanting to that's the fascination. It's
something that could improve us if we found out what
it was. But maybe we're being held back from knowing
because it could change so many things. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
I'm enticed to go with you on that. I definitely
think the same thing after your siting, Well, who was
the first person you told? And do they believe you?

Speaker 4 (19:15):
The first person I told, I guess was a friend
of mine here back in Weymouth, and they were puzzled.
But it didn't fascinate them the same way it fascinated me.
It was just something else that happened. But I just
thought it was very odd because Hey, I'm an inquisitive
person and I like to know why things happen, and

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if I can't find out, it burns holes in me.
If you understand, I have to find out.

Speaker 3 (19:44):
You're not an engineer, No no, no, no, no no,
But it's.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
Just I'm just inquisitive. I just like to know why
things work. I'm sixty I'll be sixty eight this coming birthday,
and I need to find out before it's too late.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
Continue to share as many accounts as we possibly can. Yeah,
we do a lot of historic accounts on here from
the fifties, sixties, seventies, eighties. Yeah, we certainly try and
get the older ones before those accounts are lost. Peter,
what would you say to others who may have seen
something similar but too afraid to talk about it. What

(20:21):
advice would you give them?

Speaker 4 (20:22):
I would say, find a friendly ear, maybe a podcast
like yourself, who doesn't judge, and tell your story. That's
what I do with my YouTube channel. Basically, I get
people to tell their own story. The thing is those
people have stories and they're afraid to share because they

(20:42):
feel as though they're going to be judged by the listener.
But find a friendly ear like yourself and share your
story because it all builds into a huge archive that
might shake something loose.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
Exactly. It's all about commenting, it, isn't it. Yeah, you
have a YouTube channel. What I'll do is, Peter, I'll
put the YouTube channel and below this episode in the
description on the website so you can go check it out.
What's your channel about, Peter?

Speaker 4 (21:12):
Yeah, The channel itself is called Weymouth Community TV online.
Just go to YouTube plug in that name, and I'm
the guy in the hat.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
The guy in the hat. Yes, what type of subjects
do you have?

Speaker 4 (21:25):
On there, Peter, Well, I look at the channel a
bit like a TV channel, So it's a mix of
all kinds of things. It's things like video walks, interviews,
I talk to creatives, authors, all kinds of things. Poetry.
I love old music called monologues that you don't hear
these days, so I've got a couple of performances of
those on there. So it's a kind of missmash of

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all kinds of things. I go to local cafes and
restaurants and just do little food reviews whatever I can
think of. It's not good a niche, if you understand.

Speaker 3 (21:56):
Okay, So basically it's all set indoors, predominantly in way Yes.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
A lot of it is in Waymouth. Yes, yeah. I
look at it like a kind of historical archive in
fifty or roundred year's time. The archives will still be
there on YouTube if YouTube less that long, of course,
but something else will come in and take its place,
and my stuff will still be there.

Speaker 3 (22:19):
I agree, And you know, I do watch a lot
of channels which are are based around that. Still, that
kind of thing, whether it's old historic London, you know,
I love anything like that the wonderful. So you're basically
keeping the local spirit alive. Yeah, if you are in Dorset,
I'll put the link below for Peter pop along. And
because Dorset is a beautiful county. I've been down there
many times over the years. Yeah, it is good stuff,

(22:41):
Peter terrific.

Speaker 4 (22:43):
Great. Okay, I know.

Speaker 3 (22:44):
There's a lot of missing details, but I would probably
just put it out there somewhere, whether it's mouf On
or New Fork. Yeah, mostly because obviously not everyone in
the world listens to this show. But if you've got
researchers or wherever I Winness that had seen it, then
they could be looking too. But at least if it's

(23:05):
recorded somewhere, sure there is more of a chance for
its people to maybe connect it.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Yeah, okay, a look at mo Fin I.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
Would probably suggest that I wish everyone did it, but
a lot of people don't even realize there are such
organizations anyway, because people that have these experiences don't always
have an interest in the subject.

Speaker 4 (23:22):
That's right. Yeah, I think this is a world It's
not really a problem, it's just a puzzle. This is
a world puzzle, so the world should look into it,
not just America or Japan or Russia or anywhere. There
should be like a world organization, if you will, that
has is fully funded and should look into it and

(23:43):
make all its results available worldwide for free because it's
a worldwide.

Speaker 3 (23:49):
Thing, worldwide database.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
Yeah, and people with the right equipment. It's all possible
these days. I mean, we're talking to each other over
thousands of miles for free, relatively, so it should be
easy to build some kind of communications system. It's all there.
The technology is there to do it. Only nobody's actually
tried to do it to me.

Speaker 3 (24:12):
I mean there has been people which said websites and
apps and all that type of thing, but a worldwide
spanning the whole globe.

Speaker 5 (24:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:20):
I've actually been taking photographs since I was around six
years old, and I'm sixty eight now, so I've been
doing it quite a long time.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
So you must have had one of those the box cameras.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
Yeah. Well, the first camera I actually encountered my family
was on holiday in Blackpool and my mother and I
were out walking and I was about six years old,
walking beside my sister's pram, and we passed a tourist
sales shop sold postcards and all kinds of things, and
I saw this camera in the window and I said

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to my mother could I have it? And she said
no because she was thought it was one of those
ones that you're filled with water and sprayed everybody with it.
She didn't want that mess everywhere, right, But I kind
of demanded. I stumped my little foot and said I
wanted and she finally bought it for me, and I
got it home and it took one twenty roll film

(25:13):
where you had to put the film in the camera
and then roll the film over the shutter onto a
separate school, right. And I've been taking pictures ever since
with thirty five mil disc cameras, one tens now video
and digital, so I've had a lot of experience. I'd
love to get one of these things on camera.

Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yeah, easier said than done. Unfortunately, Absolutely keep watching the skies. Yeah,
good stuff, Peter. I really appreciate you coming on sharing
that for our listeners, and fingers crossed that someone does
get in contacts that may have been on the same
flight as you.

Speaker 4 (25:50):
It was really fun to do. Thank you for the opportunity.

Speaker 3 (25:53):
You're more than welcome, Peter, keeping contacts all right, and
enjoy the rest of your day.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
You take care to buy fine now.

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Okay, life and now.

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Speaker 3 (27:04):
Hello, Jimmy, Welcome to the podcast. Hello, it is great
to have you join us tonight and you're calling from
the state of Ohio. Yes, wonderful stuff. Okay, Jimmy, You've
got some experiences to share with us. Would you like
to start at the beginning please, sir? Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
In my early twenties, I had an apartment. I lived
on my own and one night I woke up laying
in bed and I saw a woman at the foot
of my bed. It was my first apartment. I was single,
you know. It was just a mattress on the floor,
so I was down low and there was this woman

(27:46):
just standing at the foot of my bed, and she
had on these this gown draping dress, and it was
so light. It was just this light was and emanating
from her like this. Her dress was just it lit
up the room. And I saw her and I just

(28:09):
laid there and then I got nervous, and I'm like,
what what? And I just started stuttering, what do you
what do you want? And I had this amazing feeling
of just peace and calm on the inside, but I
couldn't keep my mind, you know, it was just it
was too much. It really kind of set me off.

(28:30):
And then all of a sudden, she stood there and
then dissipated into these little sparkles and then she was gone.
And then after that it became almost a every night
occurrence where something or somebody would show up at my apartment.
Like I would be laying there sleeping and then I

(28:53):
could you know, when you're sleeping and you can feel
those eyes on you, and it wakes you up and
someone's looking at you. And I would wake up and
there would be someone on the side of the bed
or someone on the other side of the bed, and
I would see the shadow person just standing there. And
then I got pretty calm with it after a while,
and I would just tell them go away. I want

(29:14):
to I want to go to sleep. Started having things
where like people my friends wouldn't want to be at
my apartment because the cabinets would start slamming different kind
of weird sounds, and you would hear someone in the
other room, and then they would go in there and
then no one's in there. My friends would hear my name.

(29:35):
Someone would say my name from the other bedroom, and
they would go in there and nobody would be in there,
and I'm leaving, I'm out of here, and they would leave.
So it went down the supernatural path for a while,
and I would see almost like ghosts, where I could
see details. I could see, you know, someone with a beard.

(29:55):
I would see this older man with a beard for
a long time. I saw in with a little girl,
and sometimes a little girl would show up on her road,
and it was weird, like when I could see the details.
A lot of them wouldn't come into the bedroom. They
would stay at the door, because always slept with my
door open, and they would stop at the door, and

(30:16):
I could feel something in the eyes on me, and
I would wake up and I would see them, and
eventually they would just go away and I would go
to sleep and no big deal. And then years of
that happened, and then I moved into a house and
then things started changing and it went into another kind
of more of the UFO category. And my first, my

(30:38):
first weird experience was I woke up in my bed
and I was looking up at my ceiling and I
could see the stars and my brain was trying to
figure out what's you know, what's going on? And first
you think, oh, I'm dreaming, and then you start moving

(30:59):
your head around and then you realize I'm moving, so
I must be awake. And I could see through this
through my roof. It was like a wavy bubble and
I could see the sky up above, and then all
of a sudden, I was just out again. That was
my first experience. And then one night and a lot

(31:19):
of these instances were months apart, so I would say
maybe ten months later. I was sleeping and I thought
I heard an airplane, but it stayed outside. It didn't
you know, an airplane comes and goes and laying there,
and I was like, oh, I woke up and my

(31:41):
eyes are still closed, and you're like, oh, that's an airplane.
And then all of a sudden told my wife, but
she was sleeping next to me, and I just said
it to her, Oh, I know what that is. They're back.
And she was still asleep, and then I just kept saying,
they're back, They're back. And then she woke up. And
then through the ceiling came this blue grid. It was

(32:06):
like a neon blue grid of squares, and it came
through the roof and then it projected onto the wall
at the foot of the bed, and it kind of
moved down through the roof, down the wall, and then
you could kind of see it coming up over the
bed and then when I saw it kind of hit

(32:28):
the bed and then that's that was the last thing
I remember. And then my wife had woke up because
she remembers hearing something, but that's all she she just said,
she remembers hearing anything. She didn't remember anything. The next
day that was it. And then maybe some months down
the road. This one was wintertime and it was probably

(32:50):
seven or eight in the evening and I was taking
the trash out the front door. So I go out
the front door, I turned right, I go down across
the front of the garage. Then I turned right to
go down the side of the house to the trash can.
And as I'm walking down the side of the house,
I look into the backyard and I can see an

(33:12):
orange yellowish light. And our house actually backs up to
a cemetery. Our property line has a fence and then
on the other side is a cemetery and then sometimes
at night you'll see people driving through. And then my
brain was like, that doesn't look like a headlight. And

(33:33):
then I realized it was only one light. There wasn't two.
And then I realized it was actually in my yard.
And I stopped, and I was about halfway to the
trash can, and then I realized that this thing started
moving toward me, and it was like an orange ball,
like an orange yellow light, and it started moving toward me,

(33:57):
and it started getting faster. It was about eye level
and it was coming at me, and I just stood
there with the trash can, and then it got about,
I don't know, eight or ten feet away from me,
and I thought, this thing's gonna hit me in the face,
and I ducked my right shoulder down, and just as

(34:18):
I ducked, I saw it veer to my left, and
then it went past my head, probably just a few
feet past my head. It was about the size of
probably a little bigger than a grapefruit. There wasn't any
like distinct edge. It was just like a light, like
a light where it just it was just light. And

(34:40):
it flew past me, went down my you know, past
my cars, down my driveway, and I lost sight of it,
and I was I turned to watch it. I lost
sight of it, and then my first instinct was what
was that and where did that light come from? So
I started looking around. There was no neighbors out. There

(35:02):
was a neighbor kind of diagonal from the street that
had their porch light on. I started looking at is
there a reflection coming off my windshield?

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Is there? Like? What what was that?

Speaker 5 (35:15):
And all of a sudden it came back from where
it went and came back up the side of my car.
And flew right past me in the same exact same
spot where it went through. It came right back and
then flew through the back of my backyard and then
it was just it shot.

Speaker 4 (35:33):
It was gone.

Speaker 5 (35:34):
It just disappeared so gone. So that happened, and then
the next thing I saw was, you know, so many
months later, I woke up in my bed. My side
of the bed is against the front wall the house,
and there's a window next to the bed, and there's

(35:56):
just like a path can get around the corner the bed,
and they come up to get into bed with a nightstand.
The window is down toward the foot of the bed.
And then I woke up and I saw somebody standing
next to the bed, and then I realized they were
so tall that their head was above the curtain rod.

(36:20):
And I was like, they were so tall, and thinking,
how can they fit in this room? Like how are
they even in Their head is so tall, And then
I realized I looked at their face, that they had
a an insect looking face like they had that they
got praying mantis triangular looking face. I didn't feel scared.

(36:40):
I didn't have any feelings of doom or and I
didn't really panic and I just I just laid there
looking at him, like what are you? What do you want?
What are they doing? What do you what are you
doing here? And then all of a sudden, it was
like a light switch and I was out.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
I just didn't.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
I don't. It was like something just turned off. And
then I woke up the next morning, and then probably
a couple months later, I woke up in the same bed,
same spot, but I was laying on my side facing
the wall. And when I woke up, I opened my
eyes and in the wall was again that wavy bubble

(37:20):
where the edges were all wavy and like liquidity moving,
and I could see through the wall into the front yard.
And our front yard has a bit of a slope
that goes out to the road, and I was laying
down sideways, but eye level was another one of these

(37:40):
mantis looking creatures. And something made me feel like maybe
it was the same one, like he was coming back
to check on something for some reason. I don't know
where that comes from, but I just get that feeling
that it wasn't anything bad, but there was something. There
was a and he came back, and it wasn't a

(38:01):
bad feeling, It just I didn't feel upset. I was
almost kind of like, yeah, I'm I'm glad you're back.
Is everything okay? And I just lay there looking at him,
and then all of a sudden, the little little opening
just kind of closed down. It closed, and then I
was out, And then that happened. That was the only

(38:22):
thing that I think I felt. I felt like there
was like an actual connection, like there was like when
he was looking through that wall. It felt I couldn't
get the message, but I felt like for some reason
there was there was something trying to come through, even
though I couldn't pick it up. This was probably a

(38:43):
couple of years ago. We were driving We live about
thirty minutes east of Cincinnati, and we were coming from
downtown on some just regular roads, not an interstate, and
there's if anyone knows, there's Lunkin Airport, which is a

(39:03):
smaller local airport, and we were coming across where that
airport is. Coming across it's called the Beechmont Levee. It's
a straight stretch. It's kind of a long low spot,
kind of come down a hill, and then you're going
across the flat low spot and the airport's off to
the right and then it goes back up the hill.

(39:27):
But as we were coming down, I could see a
commercial plane up over the ridge off to the right
by Lunkin Airport, which seems kind of weird because it
was way too big of a plane to land at
that little airport, but with Greater Cincinnati Airport not that far,
maybe something's maybe they're diverting around. So we saw it,

(39:51):
and then all of a sudden I realized that it
wasn't moving. The plane was just frozen in the sky.
And we drove across the levee, which is probably I
guess a couple miles and we watched it the whole time,
and it wasn't It was not moving. It was just

(40:12):
frozen in the sky. And then we took a turn
and we could still We lost it for a second
when we made the turn, and then we picked it
back up on the street that we went on to,
and so now it was off to our kind of
far right, and we're going thirty five miles an hour
and we're passing this thing, which if it's a commercial plane,

(40:33):
I would think that whatever the trajectory was, the speeds
that it would, you know, thirty five miles an hour
would not put us passing a commercial plane up in
the sky, and my wife was with me. She saw
it like we we had cars behind us. We tried
slowing down even more just to try to see it

(40:55):
as long as we could, and it stayed in the
same place for least five minutes, if not closer to ten.
We lost it in the trees when the road kind
of veered off and and the trees got to be
too high and we couldn't we couldn't see it. But
the weird thing was is probably like maybe three weeks later,

(41:18):
we weren't downtown and we were coming home, and both
these times are about ten in the morning, eleven in
the morning, sunshine, blue skies. We were taking the Interstate.
This time taken four to seventy one to two seventy
five Interstate. And then in northern Kentucky, just across the
river from Cincinnati, there was another commercial plane right real low,

(41:43):
right over the houses of like Comington Newport area, and
it was just frozen. It was frozen, and we watched,
We drove several miles on the Interstate and just watched
this plane. After being the second time, we didn't know
what to think. It was in your head, you're going, well,
maybe the speed and if they're doing this, and the

(42:03):
plane's going this way, and it looks like it's frozen
in time. It's frozen in the sky. But for as
long as we watched it, it was it was unnerving
to see a plane just frozen in the sky with
things just constantly happening. You just you want to know more.
You want to you want to know what's what's going on,

(42:26):
And they're all these different things are so are they connected?
Are they not connected? In my old apartment, when all
the supernatural things start to happen, and I've experienced sleep
paralysis a couple of times. One of the times I was,
I woke up and my arms were straight out across

(42:48):
the bed and I could not move. I couldn't get up,
I couldn't I couldn't even turn my head. And then
all of a sudden, I saw this face, this old
hag looking woman's face with inches from mine. It's been
over and I could just feel the tears rolling down

(43:09):
my face and that's that's all I can do. Yeah,
it's been a weird. It's been a weird journey through
these years of supernatural and now just as recent as
a couple of days ago. There's been ever was able
to record for half an hour some some light in
the sky that was changing from red to white to

(43:33):
green and different patterns. It would move over, shift, would
kind of bounce a little bit and then move over
and shift and then just disappear and then pop back.

Speaker 3 (43:45):
And good stuff. Jimmy, thank you for sharing all that.

Speaker 4 (43:49):
It's weird.

Speaker 5 (43:50):
I feel it when I'm talking. It just feels like
is this really happen? Is this really happening to me?
I mean, you've dealt with this for all these years,
Like it just it almost feels surreal, like I'm talking
and I'm hearing myself. Is this really happening?

Speaker 3 (44:07):
We live in like two different worlds. We have our
normal life where we go to work and you know,
we go out for dinner and we do normal stuff,
and then when night falls, this strange stuff happens.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
That's really it really makes you want to know more
though you just you can't help but want to go
down that rabbit hole.

Speaker 3 (44:26):
It's a big old rabbit hole all right now. Jimmy,
you described waking up and being able to see through
the ceiling into the sky for that first time. What did.
What did you think that was the first time you
witnessed that.

Speaker 5 (44:40):
I didn't know what to say. First time, I thought
I was dreaming. I thought it was just a dream.
I didn't put that one on the list of things
for a long time in my life until I saw
it when the wall, when that mantis looking creature was outside,
and it was the exact same weird liquidity moving edge

(45:06):
to that bubble, and they were the exact same thing.
And that's when it kind of hit me, like, Okay,
even though I don't remember seeing any creatures or seeing
anything else other than the sky, seeing that same effect
made me realize, Okay, that is there was something that happened.

(45:29):
But one of the things that I've dealt with most
of most of my life was nighttaars I have. I've
had nighttaars since I was a kid and I went
to therapy, and I've gotten to where I don't really
have them that much anymore. But one of the things
that I wondered was when all this stuff started happening.

(45:53):
I wondered, you know, was it that the night teraars
are related to things happening that I don't remember?

Speaker 3 (46:00):
But when did the night terrors stop?

Speaker 5 (46:03):
Probably about eight years ago. Seven eight years ago, I
started doing I went to see a therapist and he
was really good at We never really found a cause,
but I think whatever we did through the sessions with

(46:25):
talking with him, I think it alleviated whatever the stressor
was that was causing that night terror. So I bet
I have one maybe once a year or so, but
I mean it was to the point where I was
having night terrors three or four times a week, But
we never really found out what it was.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
And what about regular nightmares we ever played with them.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
As a little kid. I can still remember having a
couple of the nightmares from when I was a little kid.
But I've never really had nightmares. I've had some very
lucid dreams where I'm dreaming and the dream doesn't make sense,
But at the same time, while I'm dreaming, I'm analyzing
what's going on like I didn't I can't wait until

(47:08):
the morning to try to figure out what the dream is.
I'm trying to figure it out why it's happening. It's
kind of a weird lucid dream where I'm analyzing it
during the dream is happening. But I've never really had
a problem with actually just like a regular nightmare. I
mean it would always be where I wake up in
an absolute panic, sweating. There were times I would wake

(47:32):
up standing in the bed, screaming, just in my you know,
my wife is just trying to calm me down.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
And these night terrors. Were they ever surrounding like high
stress periods in your life?

Speaker 5 (47:45):
They were around for so long, I can't you know,
I can't remember not I mean till they went away.
I don't remember not having them, So I don't think it.
I don't think it really had an effect on it
with the regular things in my life were stressful, like
the ups and downs of life, even when things were
going really smooth, like they were always there, and I

(48:08):
never really knew what they were because I never remembered
a nightmare or a dream. I would just wake up
in an absolute almost in that fight or flight panic
like you're, you know, you feel like you're fighting for
your life panic. And I would have never I would
never have any recollection of a dream, a memory or why.

(48:32):
But I don't think it was related to anything in life.

Speaker 3 (48:37):
Were they ever very disruptive to your sleep? Did you ever?

Speaker 5 (48:41):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (48:41):
I figure going to bed and possibly having these night terrors.

Speaker 5 (48:46):
Oh, yes, it was my sleep patterns. Most of my
life has been awful. I've always been a night owl,
and I think that has a lot to do with it,
just because it's hard to When you wake up like that,
it's a very disturbing, and then it's a hard time
to get back to sleep, and then you just always
feel tired because you're never really getting any good sleep.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
Yeah. I can relate to that, right, I'm a I'm
a night out and an early bird.

Speaker 5 (49:15):
That's a bad combo.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
It can be all right now, Jimmy, you said you
saw these two mantis beings on two different periods of time.
Do you think they were the same all? With these
beings different?

Speaker 5 (49:28):
I you know, I don't know, but there's something in
my gut that made me feel like it was the
same one.

Speaker 3 (49:35):
And I don't know.

Speaker 5 (49:36):
I mean, I can't say that. I felt like when
he was looking at me the second time through the wall,
I felt he was trying to tell me that it
was the same one, that he was come back to
check on me. If that makes sense, I don't. It's
it's just like a weird It was a weird feeling
I had in the moment and I still remember.

Speaker 3 (49:58):
That seeing them. How do you think it made you
feel you scared or was it friendly?

Speaker 5 (50:05):
I've like seeing some of the shadow people has really
unnerved me. Seeing like the old Hag really unnerved me.
Seeing some of the ghosts like creatures have been startling,
you know, when you don't know they're there and you
turn and it can kind of catch you off guard.
But with and you would think with the way he looked,

(50:25):
it would have made me. It would have startled me
because it's such an odd thing to see, you know,
it's but he I didn't feel I didn't panic. I
didn't I didn't feel fear at all.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Your wife, is your wife ever experienced anything along these lines?

Speaker 5 (50:44):
She hasn't. She's experienced. There was one time she said
she woke up and I was talking in my sleep,
and she said it was the weirdest thing because she
said my voice didn't sound like me. She said it
was unnerving because I was talking to her, but she

(51:04):
was like, it wasn't it wasn't you, It wasn't your voice.
She's experienced the stuff I guess that I'm having. She
experiences it. Me is that's probably the only experiences she's had.
I think she said when she was a kid, she
had an experience where she thought her uncle had like
was playing a trick on her, like one one day

(51:28):
in the house and like sneaking in, like hiding the scare,
and then she went to look for him, and her
mom's like, what are you doing? And she's like, I'm
looking for my uncle. He's playing a frank on me,
and she's like he's not here, you know, like kind
of that whole like there was something she saw somebody,
but has no idea who it was. There was no
one else in the house. I remember her telling me

(51:50):
that story, but as for anything else, I don't remember
her saying anything.

Speaker 3 (51:56):
Well about the paranormal stuff. Was always in the same
house or was? Did it ever happen at a locations?

Speaker 5 (52:04):
The paranormal Actually I had it started in the one apartment,
and then I moved into a different apartment before I
moved to this house, and then I've had some things
happen when I've stayed at other people's houses as well,
where I've seen things shadow people, I've seen smoke, like

(52:27):
I've seen that the room just fill with gray smoke
someone else's house, stay in the night, I had gone
to my room to go to bed, staying at their house,
going to their guest room and laid down, and then
all of a sudden, I just saw this. It was
like gray smoke scrolling around the top of the room,
swirled around, and then it just dissipated and went away.

(52:50):
So it has traveled with me.

Speaker 3 (52:53):
Never felt negative or anything like that any of these
paranormal experiences.

Speaker 5 (52:58):
Some of them were a I don't know if it
was negative in a sense of they were negative or
just because you get scared. You see something that you're
not expecting to see and then it makes you scared.
I think earlier on, when you start having these experiences,
it's easier for you to just get startled and get scared,

(53:20):
and then you kind of lose connection, I think, and
then whatever's there just kind of dissipates and goes away.
Whereas as I got used to living with it, and
then I would just start to see it, it wouldn't
unnerve me as much. But there were a couple of
times where you felt like that whatever was there was
wasn't there for good reasons. But that's really been very rare,

(53:44):
Maybe two or three times in my life where I
felt like I don't want that thing in here.

Speaker 3 (53:50):
And when you'd stay at other people's houses and see stuff,
would you ever tell them, No, you never never told him.

Speaker 5 (53:57):
I don't know if there was anyone that I stayed
with that that they would have taken it well, or
it would have it would have been a I don't
think the conversation would have gone well. So I've never
I've never told anybody you.

Speaker 3 (54:08):
Went to the therapist about the night Terwers and you
had a regression.

Speaker 5 (54:13):
Yeah, we did some past life regressions, which was a
different experience. You're sitting there and you don't think is
this I don't think this is working, and then all
of a sudden it you know, you're going through and
you're talking and he asking questions, and and then all
of a sudden he starts counting you back out, and

(54:35):
then you come out of it. And then that's when
you realize, like, oh, I I was in I was
in something. I was I was there because I had
to come here, so for me to come back here,
I had to go somewhere else. So it's a different experience.
Whatever we did, we never really found anything that could
connect to the night tares. But like I said, I

(54:57):
think somehow we tripped upon whatever was causing it, and
it it's gotten way better.

Speaker 4 (55:04):
And what was it?

Speaker 3 (55:05):
Past life aggression?

Speaker 5 (55:06):
Yeah, I did.

Speaker 3 (55:08):
Oh gosh, how many did we do?

Speaker 5 (55:10):
Four or five times? I went back to four or
five different past lives. The first one I remember, the
first one we went back to was the American Civil War.
I was in that. It was it was it was
a surreal experience to like look down and see your

(55:32):
clothes look different, and you know, you just it takes
a minute to get your bearings, and then once you
can kind of fall into it, you can kind of
get It's almost like information kind of downloads to you
to where you start to just kind of understand what's
going on in that in that life, and you almost

(55:54):
get you know, each one I got almost like a
meaning of life. And you know, I saw in the
American Civil War, I ended up being on the Confederate side,
and we all had on these you know, no uniforms.
They were just you know, regular ragtag looking kind of

(56:15):
clothes and I had a satchel. But we were hungry
and we didn't have anything to eat. And it was
probably about a dozen of us, and we didn't know
really where we were, and then someone said, there's an orchard.
I think there's an orchard this way, So we started
walking through the woods, and then all of a sudden

(56:36):
we came across the group of Union soldiers and then
they opened fire and we all scattered and I got hit,
and then all of a sudden, I was floating above
my body, and I looked down I could see my
body laying there in the leaves. I remember getting the
feeling that I was really happy that I never killed
anybody that I had to go to war, But even

(56:59):
though I got killed, I was very happy that I
never took anyone else's life. And each time I did
a regression, there was almost like that life lesson that
came out of that, and each one was a little
bit different. So I don't know if maybe one of
those or maybe piece and all those together did something

(57:20):
to help. But it's a really neat experience if you
get to if you have an opportunity to do that.

Speaker 3 (57:27):
Absolutely it's a shame you couldn't get any names or
locations or anything that you could probably check back in
the history books and see if you were able to
track down that soldier.

Speaker 5 (57:38):
I looked up and I tried to search a civil
war with orchards, and I think in Georgia there was
a battle near an orchard. But it was so hard,
I mean, it's so hard to find anything other than that.

(57:58):
But I had a Russian that I went back, and
an actual number popped up, like in my like almost
like if you're watching a movie and then like the
Star Wars pops up, like there was like this. It
was four thirteen popped up and I don't know what

(58:20):
four thirteen meant or but I ended up it looked
like it was somewhere in like Greece, the Mediterranean, and
the village I was. I was a young boy, arteage boy,
and the village had gone off to fight a war,
and all the men had gone, so the only thing

(58:42):
left were the women and children and the village. And
I was kind of at that age where I wasn't
old enough to go with the soldiers, so I stayed back.
But I ended up getting I was really sick, and
I was in like I was in this little house
in this and they were trying to care for me.
I had an illness and I ended up passing away

(59:05):
from the illness. But I remember having the feeling of regret,
feeling like I had let the community down because I
was passing away when they really needed me to help
take care of the village while the men were off fighting.

Speaker 3 (59:22):
Interesting. It makes you wonder how many lives we have lived,
doesn't it. You mean, Oh, I say, I think it'd
be too much for us if we remembered all of them.
I think we have to learn about this life.

Speaker 5 (59:35):
And that's where my therapist we actually have become really
good friends, and I don't see him as a therapist anymore.
We get together for dinner and go to seminars, and
he got me really into Edgar Casey. We really started
kind of going down to Edgar casey rabbit hole with
the reincarnation and the past lives, and it's just fascinating.

(59:56):
But one of the things we were kind of talking
about was maybe we're not supposed to know this stuff.
We're peeking behind the curtain when we shouldn't be to
Maybe we're not supposed to know.

Speaker 3 (01:00:08):
Yeah, maybe that the curtain which separates the lives. Maybe
they flutter in the wind and you get a quick
glimpse of something you shouldn't do. You know, maybe it's
like that, and I think you've probably got to learn
in this life. When you move on to the next life,
you learn something else, and I think it probably goes
that way. Well that's just what I think anyway.

Speaker 5 (01:00:26):
Yeah, that's what we kind of agree with you. You
have to wipe the slate clean or you know, how
are you going to learn the lesson if you already
have all the answers?

Speaker 3 (01:00:35):
Yeah, now I can agree. More wonderful stuff, Jimmy.

Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
I'm happy to I got to tell you, it's nice
to be able to talk about this stuff. So I
enjoyed that very very much.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
That's what it's all about, Jimmy, connecting people. Jimmy, I
really appreciate you coming on sharing that.

Speaker 5 (01:00:51):
For our listeners, and thank you for having me.

Speaker 4 (01:00:54):
Keep up the good work.

Speaker 3 (01:00:55):
It was great speaking with you today. Take care and
we will speak soon. Bye now, Jimmy, Thank you. Wow.
That's all for this episode. Keep updated and connected with
the show on x Facebook and Instagram. And if you
have an encounter that I'd like to share on the podcast,
you can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com,

(01:01:17):
or you can reach out to me via the contact
page on my website UFO Chronicles podcast dot com. A
big thank you to Peede and Jimmy be sharing tonight,
and thank you all for listening. I will be back
next week. Till then, stay safe and keep watching the skies. Goodbye,

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