Ep.354 Precognition: Through the Glass Darkly

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You'll be away five seventeen. Do you want to report
a UFO hanging in? We don't want to report every
thirty one. Do you wish to report a UFO over hey,
we want to one of those data areas thirty one.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Do you wish to find a report of any kind
of it?

Speaker 3 (00:18):
I wouldn't know what kind of reports clouds.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Time areas thirty one me neither there were self.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
If it was anybody above us to pass us, Like
thirty seconds ago, we were sending one top of golf negative, okay,
OFFI the UFO.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
Yeah, it's murder ten nine o'clock. Yes, I'll just passed over.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
I go.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
I don't know what it was, but it's from at
least to three thousand feet above us.

Speaker 1 (00:47):
See, I passed out over the top of us.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Ninety one one. You just called both to be be four.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
They're after staying the airplanes he.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
To God on an unidentified object every Liberty four call
or calm on an unidentified flying object.

Speaker 4 (01:13):
A Welcome to UFO Chronicles a place where people share
their experiences of the strange and unexplained. If you've had
an encounter, I would like to be on the show.
You can email me at UFO Chronicles at gmail dot com.

(01:47):
Hello everyone, and welcome to the show.

Speaker 2 (01:50):
How are you all. I'm Nick Hunter and this is
the UFO Chronicles Podcast. In this episode, Gabe from Flint,
Michigan shares a lifetime of strange encounters that began in
childhood and never really let go. School yard esp games
and a shattering altar prayer to psychedelic warnings, prophetic dreams,

(02:11):
and a vivid encounter with a horroring orb of light.
His story threads through faith, trauma, precognition, and the search
for meaning. Along the way, we hear how writing seemed
to spill into reality, and how a pilot friend reported
a UFO between Camchatka and Alaska, and how patterns of
coincidence shaped his belief that consciousness and information are inseparable.

(02:34):
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the podcast.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Hello, I live in Flint, Michigan. I have seen a
paranormal light from less than four feet away. When I
was given information to share, I became highly precognitive. After this,
There's a lot more to say. I will be sharing
a wide variety of ideas and position statements, not all
of which the listener is likely to agree with. But

(03:37):
my goal is not so that you will agree, but
so that you understand what happened and how I think
this all maps onto the present, at least how I
think it does. I was born in April twenty sixth,
nineteen eighty one, Louisville, Kentucky, six weeks premature. I nearly died.

(03:57):
I think it's hard to get clarity on that. And
this is a possible link to what happens later, and
as far as there's hypothesized link between people that have
near death experiences and then the paranormal and so this
narrative will support the idea that there is something to
a link between early trauma in any case and paranormal

(04:21):
experiences later. To exclude this schizotypal this is all about
reality testing. I will have to compete against, you know,
the alternate idea that I'm mentally ill, but I'll have fortunately,
you know, and mm pies that I kind of gives

(04:41):
me a clean bill of health. Excludes the notion of
the schizotypal diagnosis. The reader might not be familiar. This
is like being schizophrenic. The schizotyples will have magical thinking
and ideas of reference going on, and they will critically
have a failure to test their reality, so that you know,

(05:01):
basically that means that they will not be able to
rationally analyze against evidence clearly their own ideas. And besides,
I don't have a problem reading people. This is a
lot of qualification before I proceed into the narrative, but
I think it might be necessary to do it first
for how strange this is going to be. So I

(05:23):
was the second child. The first child died a strap,
and everything I say, I'm going to try to, you know,
make relevant. Everything has to do with everything here. So
my parents were both one of seven children. They were
both sensitive, although they would probably deny that, the overarching
kind of impromater that they operate with is that if

(05:45):
you can't love yourself, you're going to have to find
something else to do. I kind of want to take
a step back and look not just at my parents
in my situation, you know, at the situation of the world.
You know, this baby boomer thing, there's something to it.
When you talk about the qualities of these people that
are born by generation, can kind of class them. Baby

(06:06):
boomers are going to be born into large families, and
to a greater or lesser degree, they're going to in
the economic boom, have their material needs taken care of
in a way that kind of contrasts today. I would
suppose back then, in the late forties and fifties, as
far as I understand, you'll be dropped into large families,

(06:29):
you'll have certain material needs taken care of, but then
the needs higher up on Maslow's hierarchy of needs might
not be taken care of. And I'm looking specifically at
the need for significance. If you have six brothers and sisters,
the challenge might be if your belly is full, and
you've got clothes on your back, and you've got to

(06:49):
roof over your head to differentiate yourself and to be significant,
to be meaningful, to have enough attention from the parent
or the caregiver. It's just my intuition that my parents
didn't receive that kind of attention that they needed and
internalize this and essentially, you know, internalized the lack of

(07:10):
perceived love from the parents and develops cluster B personality
disorder essentially. And I'm racing to get to the paranormal.
But this is it feels necessary because I need to
paint the picture as to my childhood and like the persistent,
pervasive and permanent problem that I lived with and under

(07:31):
that I could not fix, although I tried desperately. The
idea is, I think, and you know, I don't have
a degree in psychology, so Sam talking outside of my wheelhouse.
Historical trauma plus kind of a protection from analysis or
you know, kind of protected status can result in a

(07:53):
disorder of the personality. They're historically traumatized, they maladapt that
maladaption isn't looked at or penetrated to be analyzed early
enough and or extensively enough, and then it develops into
this problem and is a relational problem. So you're gonna
have kind of a folly a do at least situation

(08:16):
where it's like the story of the Vampire, unfortunately, and
where they'll need a thrall. They'll need a host they'll
need someone else to operate. And it's my map that
the folia do becomes the foliatoi becomes the like follia
to demand. There's a an infection you're susceptible to. You've

(08:37):
got to fight against. And then this is the kind
of social disease I think that's operating in the world
at large. This is the major problem in the world
under my lights, this particular type of person, narcissistic, borderline
history on antisocial the sociopaths and psychopaths of old have

(08:58):
risen to the top and have reproduced their methodologies, and
it's causing disinfection. I'm trying to get into early childhood.
There were signs. I was dropped into corrective shoes right away.
That's my first memory. So looking down at these shoes
that were like highly uncomfortable and unwieldly, and I felt

(09:20):
like I didn't need them. I was given an eye patch,
I was put in headgear, just hobbled with it seemed
like unnecessary medical interventions, interventions of all sorts. The notion
came early enough that there was a kind of sabotage
going on. I don't want to say that life at
home was the worst and that I had at the worst.

(09:42):
But it is important I need to relate the sense
that there's an inescapable predation honestly that was going on
that caused such a strain that it would be almost
a physical exercise to pray to God constantly reaching out internally,
if not verbally, reaching out and sensing a failure to

(10:05):
get any real help back from the effort. I think
this trauma, this particular you know, it's called complex trauma.
Many instances through time that a crew that contribute to
this complex body of trauma that I think results a
kind of growth if you do it right, if you
thread the needle, you need resistance to grow. If you

(10:28):
want to become a bodybuilder, you have to basically go
to the gym unless you're even if you're genetically gifted,
you have to go through the pain of the repetitions
to get the strength. And I think that there might
be something with like the central nervous system, maybe even
in interaction with like the fine body, If there is
such a thing as the ether body, I don't know,

(10:50):
but trauma in childhood operates this way to present people
with the opportunity to get paranormal powers. This is what
it turns out to be pre cognition, primarily in my case. Okay,
so dealing with this stuff, there was there's anger. You
go through the stages of grief, and through this process

(11:11):
you arrive at kind of the naturally a notion of emptiness,
and you realize, if you do it right, I think
the fullness in emptiness, there's a constellation in the emptiness
that I'll try to describe. As we go through this thing,
you're also going to arrive at dissociation. If you're in
a complexly traumatic situation, you're going to probably use self

(11:33):
hypnosis as a coping mechanism. All of these things I
think contribute to a strange familiarity with what a lot
of people would call the paranormal. Out of this kind
of method, just coping method, paranormal experiences will rise. I
got into the paranormal in the second grade. I would
go through the school's library, you know, pick up books again,

(11:54):
you know, coping, probably trying to escape. It doesn't end
at the home, right It just you carry it with
you and a lot of the times and it had
happened in my case, you got problems at home. These
transferred concretely to problems in school social integration. Having inappropriate
emotional responses to situations will cause problems. The strongest drug

(12:16):
on the shelf at the time that I found was
a book about UFOs. I looked into the material and
it got into what blue book was. And I kind
of had a friend who I was reading this book
with and then passing it to him and him to me.
We related on the notion that there was a massive

(12:36):
lie on this subject, that this stuff was so strange
and yet the study was dropped. We both detected an
immediate and patent lie and the magnitude of the implications
of the subject. I mean, it was all all there had.
There was a resonance. I didn't know the word, but
it was an isolated example of gas lighting with my

(13:00):
home life, and so I was attracted again to this
material for that reason. It gave me a lot to
think about, and it had me thinking about system wide
problems and basically I didn't have the language for it,
but gas lighting as the major problem. And then I
would quickly get into experiments. UFOs are adjacent to ESP,

(13:24):
and so I tried ESP experiments. We would go out
into the field on recess, my friends and I and
in additions of about fifty feet, I would try to
pick out a person, a famous person, dead or alive,
that they would choose and then think about. And then

(13:44):
there would be a go between a person who would
hear my guests and relate this to the person who
was thinking of a famous individual, dead or alive. And
I would get back positive results anywhere between thirty and
forty percent of the time, and I would think that
they would be putting me on and there was no
way for me to confirm it. I mean this outside

(14:05):
of intuitional feelings, so I would have to kind of
table it, you know, put a pin in it. But
the effect was that it increased my interest in the subject.
I was born in Kentucky, yes, but moved to Michigan
by the time I was five, where all this was
playing out at this point. And I say that because

(14:27):
it was the hometown of Dow Chemical, and I was raised,
you know, in an environment and in a family that
respected the scientific method and above board consensus, and so
I had a lot of reason to kind of drop
these investigations. But on the other hand, this evidence was

(14:47):
coming back, and I had my own personal reasons as
I've explained, to try to get into this stuff, to
continue to get into the parent normal. After this point
developed a magic symbol which will come in later, which
is a circle. This essentially looks like an eye with
a crossover it, and this would be a highly introverted endeavor.

(15:09):
No one else was involved with this. I would show
the symbol a couple of times to friends importantly, but
mostly I would look at this symbol. I derived it after,
you know, basically meditating thinking. Basically, I would have said
into the subject, I drive this shape. I would draw
it in the dirt, I would draw it on paper, whatever,

(15:33):
and I would kind of use it as focus, and
I would say, this thing sees me somehow, and I
see it. It's not an eye, but it looks like
an eye, and it's not like Roman Catholic per se,
which was the religion I grew up in and kind
of half adopted. I wasn't an atheist at this point,

(15:54):
but it sees me and I see it. I'd say,
and this thing is like everywhere, kind of like interpenetrating everything,
and I could use it to confer with a greater reality.
I just this was the notion, and it gave me
a sense of peace to do it. But I didn't

(16:14):
get any kind of real dopamine out of it until
a year ago. So I'm going to race to get there.
I'm just gonna put it out there. I've already gone
this far. I would go out during recess about this
time with another friend to this tree. It was like
an outstanding fur tree along the edge of the woods

(16:37):
that I joined the fields kids would get released to
go and enjoy recess with. I would go out to
the edge of this field there was this fir tree,
and my friend and I would go out there and
hang out. And I was wanting to name this tree
like kids do, and so I'd call it the consulting tree,

(16:57):
but you know, this wasn't the first name for it.
And we would go out there basically and I would
do the same kind of thing that I would be
doing with my magic symbol, but in an extroverted way,
with an anchored, you know, physical object, living thing this tree.
Kind of use it as a focus and reach out again,
you know, basically asking for information and for help and

(17:18):
to be integrated with this larger, greater and more healthy reality.
The first I'm almost sure this is this sounds like
I'm making it up. But the first thing I wanted
to call it was like the hill, but there was
no hill, so it didn't make sense. Now it kind
of makes sense with this telepathy types thing with you know,
there's this notion about the kill. Kids are remotely convening

(17:42):
through consciousness on this They call it the hill and
they talk to one another there. And I never got
that far to where I was having a discreet conversations
with other people. But there was this felt into it
body out there at that time, and things were laying
at home all the while. I would, you know, try

(18:03):
to use rational discourse, all different kinds of methods to
try to make improvements or make the ground. All of
it would be used against me, so I would have
to keep trying, keep trying, and nothing was ever good
enough as far as my own criteria. Things were not
improving at home. They were getting worse. I'm in tenth grade.

(18:24):
I'm having a real religious crisis at this point, sensing
that Roman Catholicism has failed me. So I'm right about
to become a properly angry atheist. I'm walking downtown, it's
about eleven at night, and I come across a Roman
Catholic church. There were like two major Roman Catholic churches

(18:48):
in town. This was the other one that I was
not familiar with. I tried the door, it's open. I
walk in. It's dark. There's like there are two people
in the pews. I go up to the altar and
there's like maybe a side altar, it's not like the
major proper altar. And there are like votive candles. It's

(19:08):
like a marble top to this altar. And there's an
ashtray and there are punks, I guess you call them
right there, sticks that you like to use to light
the candles. And there are you know a number of these,
and I take three of them and I'm trying to

(19:28):
reach out. I'm doing this experimental process. I'm saying, okay,
I'm gonna do this thing. If you know there's if
there is a god, I need a sign, I really
need one. And so I light these three punks over
this ashtray in the kind of a teepee, and I'm concentrating,
you know, I'm like, you know, it's like proper Roman Catholic.

(19:50):
My hands are clasped and I'm tunneling. I'm tunneling. I'm
tunneling in in in just you know, almost physically pushing.
And it was like someone had come over top with
like a ten pound sledge and smashed the ash tray
and the glass scattered, not so far that there was
glass everywhere on the floor, but it was everywhere on

(20:12):
this altar, this admittedly large altar. So I was totally shocked.
And I gathered up this glass and I put it
in an envelope. They had envelopes there, and I left
a little note. And this is back when you know,
people had pencils in their pocket, nineteen ninety eight seven
in Midland, Michigan, and I wrote, I'm sorry. You know

(20:35):
it was more extensive than that. And I cleaned up
and I left in shock, thinking what am I going
to do with this intensifying all over again? This relation,
I thought, between consciousness and a greater reality, which wasn't this?

(20:56):
This go between exactly Roman Catholic and Podology. You know,
the first time my reading level was tested was in
fifth grade, and I tested in the twelfth. I would
read the Bible and non traditional interpretations from a very
young age would come to me. I had this pretty
inco hate, but burgeoning notion about gnosissism, that there was

(21:21):
a truth to the gnostic approach. I didn't. I wasn't
aware of gnocissism as such until I was about thirty.
But it's an important piece in this whole thing. And
then that year or the next year in school, this
is what I think think about when I try to
explain in a long form, which I've never done in

(21:43):
my life before. Now, what's happened? So in tenth grade
and now I'm sure still you know, I was in
history class and there was this big old book report
and I was terrible with homework, I always have been,
and we had to do this book report. I had to,
you know, choose his book and write a report on it.

(22:05):
And so it was the night before it was due.
It was like essentially what comprised the entirety of our grade.
I said, I don't know what the heck I'm going
to do, but I'm going to pick a person and
then write about them. And this was like early internet,
so I thought maybe I had a shot at using
the Internet to try to get a book report done.

(22:27):
And there was also CDs that were in like a
there was an encyclopedia of CDs and they figured in.
But it's not a major point. The point is, as
I sat there and I decided to write about Respute
and you know, the Russian figure, and was later poisoned
and then shot, I think. But the idea was that

(22:49):
he was clairvoyant and substantiated. His claims were sometimes substantiated.
So you know, I didn't know anything about Edgar Casey
or any other psychic that had the similar kind of
like quality about their claims substantiated as they seemed to be.
So I fixed on him, and I made up a

(23:09):
book title, and I said, I'm going to you know,
reverse engineer. I'm going to actually find a real book
tomorrow about him and fix it up so that it
maps to the book, and my report maps to the book,
and it's it'll be fine. You know. I kind of
had this, like this backlog of successes doing this kind
of thing, not I mean doing my homework, but making
it work in the end. So the next day I

(23:31):
write this report roughly, I make assumptions about his story,
I make up a title, and I go and find
my book the next day. The book I didn't have
to change anything, had a title which mapped exactly it
was the title to my report, you know, the Life
and Times of Grigory Resputing, and the correspondence to the

(23:53):
report and this book. It really shocked me. It was
like I had remotely viewed or was precognitive about this book,
which itself was about someone who was clairvoyant. So that
was another one, another shock. Basically jumping ahead, I am
twenty one or two, and you know, again, things escalated

(24:14):
at home, but I'm in college. I'm tripping on acid
using it as a you know, I was experimenting again
with consciousness and escaping. It's me and my girlfriend at
the time. We're in this park. We're sitting on the
top of this park bench. It was a park that
was having built around it a disc golf course, which

(24:38):
was a new This is two thousand and one, two
thousand and two, two thousand in that area, when disc
golf was yet to kind of like de recognized as
a sport. So, you know, again this whole like novelty thing.
I was always about the novel under the category of
things that helped me escape. So anyway, we're this park

(25:01):
bench and I'm tripping, and I'm tripping hard. It's probably
the hardest I've ever tripped, and meaningful because it's hard.
It would be hard to talk at all in this state.
But all of a sudden, I had this really clear
idea that it was not safe where we were, and
so I told my girlfriend we have to go, like now,

(25:21):
we have to get out of this area right now.
So I get up and I grab her wrists and
I like almost pull her up off of this table,
got off the table, and we're walking twenty thirty feet
out from the table. This giant limb from the tree
that we were under comes clapping down onto the table

(25:42):
right where we were sitting, like we would have been
seriously hurt. I mean, this limb, it wasn't like a
small little tributary. It was like a proper, substantial element
to this tree. It was so shocking. So it's not
to be able to be recognized, I think by my
girlfriend at the time. She was tripping too, So you
can say, well, she was lost in the fugue. Man.

(26:05):
She wasn't, you know, attending to the strangeness of what
had just happened, and you know, to your significance. She
was in her own you know, she didn't quite recognize it.
And that's a feature of these things. If anything like
precognitive or clairvoyance, notion arrives and you air it and
then it gets substantiated shortly thereafter, you're gonna get radio silence,

(26:29):
Like you're not going to get a sense, you know,
a sensible feedback. There's like a distributed sensory suppression to
these highly novel experiences. Okay, I get through undergrad, things
are still escalating, you know. I always think this is
the worst that's gonna get There's no way it could

(26:50):
get worse, but it keeps going. At that point, it
becomes clear that I'm getting shoehorned into mental health care.
I'm trying to become independent at the same time that
there's a kind of dependency fostered. I take responsibility for
my failings in life. I need to say this, like,
I know I'm not perfect, and I'm not trying to

(27:13):
make myself look like a pure and perfect martyr against
the backdrop of like evil doers. In case in point,
I was not independent to the extent that I should
have been. See what happened in my car broke down.
I was coming back from undergrad to visit and I
didn't have the money to fix my car. So I
moved into my dad's place. The car went off to

(27:36):
the you know, dump. But it was just like a
radiator problem. They're like a two hundred and three hundred
dollars problem. But I didn't have it, so goodbye car.
I mean, my parents in my dad's house anyway, and
you know, trying, you know, to work through this this problem.
And I, you know, I was thinking about telling a
story and like, is there any way I can tell

(27:58):
this thing without allving other people, like exposing this whole thing.
It's impossible to relate what needs to be related. So anyway,
I'm dependent on him at this point, and he he says,
you know, if you're going to live with me, basically,
you need to see a psychologist. So I have a

(28:20):
job and then I get into grad school. And on
the other hand, I'm getting shopped around to doctors. I'm
seeing a psychologist who doesn't give me any diagnosis but
ADHD and I'm not sure I have that, you know.
It's like I would say, probably CPTSD at this point.
Now again I'm not the doctor. So silver lining, I

(28:44):
take this Minnesota multiphasic instrument. It's a test basically it's
like three hours long. That really gets to an answer
about you know, am I mentally ill? Comes back clean?
I go to another doctor, doctor number three, no diagnosis,
doctor number four and five, except for that the first

(29:06):
one who had given me this diagnosis of ADHD is
unsatisfactory for the purposes of a person who needs to
paint me as properly mentally ill. So, you know, five
doctors later, but I'm getting into PhD. At this point,
I got accepted to sixty six percent of the schools

(29:26):
I applied to. It was offered full rides to these schools,
so the pressure was on. They needed to cast me
as a complete incompetent, and I was succeeding academically at
least up to this point.

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Head down to Mississippi begin my PhD. Trying to get
some space, you know, and I'm just about to figure
out what Coloster B is. I'd start doing my research with.
You know, this is a highly productive time. And as
far as like getting my bearings in the real world,
having had the space put between myself and my family

(31:09):
of origin, I kind of had room to do this research.
I'm in PhD. You gotta break all contact. When my
father reaches out and says that he wants to visit
me in school, and I still had some growing up
to do. I still kind of had a child's heart,
and I wanted to reach out and kind of make

(31:29):
things good, you know, try one last time to make
things good. So I said, sure, come on, you know,
come on down. We'll visit. We'll try to reconcile. Here
I'm in PhD. You'd have to think I'm achieving, and
so maybe they'll see the light, maybe they'll say I'm sorry.
You know, all this the classic. But of course he
gets down there and it's all on attempt to draw
me back and to gaslight me, and very much a

(31:53):
lot of pressure. I have my dad sleeping on my
couch where I'm trying to teach and do my studies
all at the same time. On top of this, there
is you know, you probably know there's a correlation between
higher education locusts of power and mental illness. There's a
positive correlation. The more higher you get up in education,

(32:16):
the more likely it is you're going to be running
into people with mental illnesses to include personality disorders of
the dramatic subtype, clusterbes, borderlines, narcissists. I was seeing people
I was experiencing gaslighting hardcore in school. Okay, let me
make it plain. The first day I walk into school
and you know, in the meaning PhD, I'm talking with

(32:40):
the director of composition about this book that we are
to review and teach from, but quickly review and in
class that first day, so I look through it, and
it's a writing program PhD in English. So I'm looking
through it and I'm seeing a lot of the standard

(33:00):
fare about clarity, but nothing about any figurative writing as such,
you know, poetry and fiction and creative nonfiction as a category.
So it seemed, and I said this to her, to
privilege clarity to the exclusion of any mention of figurative language.
She took this comment twisted it to say that this book,

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in my view, unduly privileged clarity, and that I had
argued against clarity and produced this to my real boss
at the time, the director of the creative writing program,
so it was completely sabotaged behind my back. I had
an idea about this. I was taken out immediately of
all the courses that I had self assigned, and they

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chose my classes for me, and I was put into
a punitive class that you take for punishment. You know,
in my field, it's literary criticism, and hardly anyone likes it.
You have to take it if you haven't taken it before.
The funny thing is is people have perceived me similarly
not to take seriously the idea about clarity. It's probably

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the you know the way I woul I talk and write,
I do dissociate. You know, sometimes I am in this
mode what is it, right, brain hardcore, and so you
could get the impression that I don't I don't take
clarity seriously. Anyway. The point is I took the class
like three times before this. There's no reason anyone looking

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at my at the classes I took before this time,
that I wish I should land in this class anyway,
PhD culminated in review of the findings that I had.
I discovered this about you know, the director of composition
and what she says to proper boss or whatever you
would like to call him, the director of the creative
writing program. I discover the gas lighting. It's not just

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you know, in the top, it's in my cohort. I
have a mental breakdown at this point. I think, oh
my god, I'm clearly being given this lesson that no
contact is the way to go, and I have to
I was forced out of school. They wanted me to continue,
and I dropped out. And you know, there's my father

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sleeping on the couch, staying in the apartment or whatever,
waiting for this suit to drop. I get drawn back
into the house and I have a proper mental breakdown,
I mean full blown. My hair grows long, like super
super long, and I'm in my room like self isolated,
pressing again for contact, reaching out, reaching out. What am

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I going to do? I don't know what I'm going
to do. When my graduate advisor from my master's program
reached out and said, hey, if you've got a book ready,
we're going to consider it for publication because I had
shown promise as a writer, and so I hurried to
finish a book and there was a couple of weeks left.

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And this is where things are going to pick up
speed pretty quickly. I was writing in this state, you know,
highly stressed. When everything I was writing suddenly began to happen,
the people I would be writing about would be knocking
on my door at the moment that I was writing
about them. I mean literally the moment I was writing
about them. These are people that I, you know, chose

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not to write about until then. This book opens with
a firefighter who's fighting fires in Canada. This is just
prior to a massive wave of fires that would sweep
over Canada and then the smoke would drift down over
Michigan and the other Northern states, and it would become
a feature, you know, kind of a water cooler conversation.

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This is just prior to then I'm writing about this.
The firefighter fighting fires in Canada and he to pass
the time and to escape the work of the day,
he's telling stories to fellow firefighters, and the first one
he tells is about a fire in Hawaii. You know,
I thought, you know, what a great achievement of mine.

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You know, like, how odd. There's no way it makes
sense that Hawaii would have a kind of fire, a
massive fire sweep over it. And so it was absurd
enough to be an escape for the character in the
situation and for his fellows. And then of course this
fire happens in Hawaii shortly thereafter, but it was to

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the point of the book wasn't finished yet. And there's
other precognitive elements in the book, like it would go
on to get focused on UFOs, and it would go
on to get into a situation where the man character
was pre cognitive, and they would have conversations about how
they were able to look into the future, and then

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people would be enviously looking at this character going like
how do you do that? And explain to me, how
you do that? And I wasn't demonstrably precognitive at this point,
but I would become that, and so this itself is
a precognitive elopment, another development in this book. But it
was to the point of things that these people that

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I was writing about would be knocking on my door,
namely my mother and another friend. These are people I
haven't seen in months and years alternately, so super shocking,
just take my word for it, that these little details
that I would be writing about would be manifesting in
real life. And so I was. I was super weirded out,

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and it was a kind of a moral question, like
what am I to write about? I would be okay
with happening, and I couldn't manifest on the page the
problems that stories require without feeling bad about it, Like
every story basically needs a kind of problem, theoretically speaking roughly,

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and then it would be this problem that may or
may not get resolved. But I wasn't ready to manifest
any of these real worlds, so I didn't know what
to do. Deadline was approaching, so I reverted the Roman
Catholic practice of praying. But my own spin on it,
like this, gnostic praying. And I was thirty eight years

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old at this point. This is twenty eighteen, late September.
You know, the skies are bright blue in the day,
and there was a big moon at night. I got
down on my knees and I prayed. I reached out
to the unknown, and I said, if there is anyone
or anything out there that can give me information, give

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me something to say in this book, I'll wrap it
up and I will try to help people with it.
So please, please, please, I know I can, I know
I can relate in word, so that I can I
can be of use on this planet. Please. And I

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fell asleep thinking of my slim chances. Three days pass
and three nights pass. On that third night, I woke
up to a spotlight of moonlight on the wall against
which my bed sat, and it was distinctly circular, like

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a construction paper cutout of moonlight or moonlight's normally diffuse,
and it was hypnotic for that. I looked over my
shoulder at the window. There was a big moon, so
it began to make sense. And I looked back and

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forward into my room again, and hovering three feet above
and in front of me was a light that was
equal in brightness to headlight on brights. It looked to
be like light itself that was organizing to the curvature

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of a sphere, but roughly, and there was a bit
of like a corona on I was looking at the
top edge first, and I could see a semi transparent light.
It was semi transparent blue washing over semi transparent pink

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and white. There was motion over this topology of this
looked like roughly a sphere. I couldn't capture the entirety
of this object. It was so close and so bright
at one time, but I'm extrapolating from this top curvature.
And although there was apparent motion within it and on

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top of its surface, the overall shape seemed like it
was pinned into the air. I looked at it for
six to about eight seconds, when I looked back to
the window into the moon to recalibrate, to catch my breath,
and I looked back into my room and it was gone.

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And in that time I had an idea of such
complexity that I attributed it to kind of download. And
this is that idea that there is no information is
itself information. It came not like a voice but like
as information like itself. I relate it this way. If

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you remember your childhood home in the address, you might
have just thought of it by my referencing it. Make
it didn't come in a voice to your head largely.
It was just probably informational in like a kind of
statement of fact. That's how it was. And then at
this time I saw in my mind in my imagination

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two circles coming together, one from the left side and
one from the right side. And they came together, and
what I would learn later is called the the pisces
vesica or the vesica pisis actually piscis. It's like the
classic Venn diagram where you've got two identical circles overlap

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a little bit, and it was kind of like the
middle part that there was a cognitive weight put on
that there was an important thing about this. I did
not know at that time what that meant, although my
first assumption was that like one circle represented information and
the other represented that there was no information, and you know,

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and then it would mean that they're coming together would
represent that statement that there is no information? Is itself information?
Later on I would think that it might it could
mean and this is where I'm landing today that it
means that with all information comes awareness, that these co
occur at the same time. So and then the idea was,

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this is all prior to the Big Bang. This is
the first principle that there is no information is itself information.
And then once you have this informational body, Sina Kwannon,
you have awareness, and so you kind of have a
basis for like a monad or a two pole monad

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or something like this, kind of like a godly figure.
There was a spiritual quality to this thing, and I
have to say it was really gratifying. It was beyond
talking about in the moment to look at this light
was beautiful, you know, it is like what they say,
like effulgent. There was like a bloom to it in
the like a CGI effect. The bloom was on this thing, gorgeous,

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the two circles coming together. It was about as dry
and mathematical and ungratifying in a way as this light was,
but super clear. I got I have to try to
figure out what this thing is. About six months after this,
I run across an image in a book called The

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All Knowing Buddha. And in this image, which was I've
found in a Tibetan monks private chambers, pinned up against
the wall by a European I think German hiker, who
then takes it and puts it in a book. And
then that's how we have access to it now today.
As I understand it, this image of a guy meditating,

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sitting down, and then there's like this adjacent to him,
a pinwheel of light. The similarity to the light that
I saw was so striking that I almost knew that
this was an historical representation of the same phenomenon that
I had seen. And so I said, Okay, wow, this

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might not be like a psychotic breakdown, but it could
be an actual phenomenon that other people have experienced. So
I kept looking, and this whole notion about emptiness, it's
central to the Buddhist endeavor. I'm so aware about this.

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I would come to understand with time, as I was
trying to figure out what happened to me all of
this about Buddhism, and that more specifically in Tibetan Buddhism
and Vadriana. I think there's a sub sect of it
called Zogagchen, which has as part of its practice and

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like body of knowledge, this figure of the I don't
know how you pronounce it, but it's th h I
g l e with an accent over the eigle, which
is this this like orb. It's like an orb. It's
like these people have been meditating for centuries seeing these orbs,
but they're buried in these Tibetan texts that only up
until today like have been secreted away, you know, and

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they meditate on emptiness and this thing appears. Okay, great,
you know, I'm getting anchors down and this is a
major finding for me. Helps to heal me up and
out of the situation that I was in practically, which
in its own way was continuing to intensify. So you know,
it was imperative that I get out to find out

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that there was like a secret trust I guess that
was organized at this time. You know, my immediate family
convened in secret that they should organize this this trust
so that you know, my brother and sister are going
to control my inheritance basically, and they're going to strap
me down to a bed and pump me full of drugs.

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You know, quote unquote, it was important that I get out.
There's no other way, but no contact in one of
the last conversations I'd have with my mom actually prior
to this, just kind of like throw this out there randomly.
She saw a red light in her room. She said,
you know, I'm trying to investigate the paranormal, and I'm thinking, like, oh,
maybe maybe my you know, mom saw something, and so

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I ask. She says, like, I say, do you have
any recollection of seeing anything of this nature, of the
paranormal nature? And she would always keep her cards close
to her vest, and she did so in this she
says pretty vaguely that she saw a red light in
her room, but you could tell that there was there
was something to it, there was much more to it,

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and I would try to get more information about it,
and she would like rebuff the inquiry or whatever. Okay,
So reaching out getting more properly extroverted. I find myself
talking with a pilot friend who I ad met an
undergrad when he was going to school to become a pilot,
but today is a pilot. I got this idea out

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of nowhere that he was going to see a UFO,
and then six to eight days later he comes back
from flying halfway around the world, saying that in between
the Kumchatka Peninsula, which is, as you probably know, the
on the eastern coast of Russia and Alaska, out over
the ocean, hundreds of miles out over the open ocean.

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He sees a UFO, sees a light out there and
it's remarkably bright, orbiting quickly around around. Highly a novelist,
and he hadn't ever seen anything like this, and he
had a co pilot. He said, do you see that?
Co pilot says yeah, and then he gets on the radio,
and you know, there's this channel up there, apparently to

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come find out. It's called fingers. The frequency is one two,
three four five, and that's why they call it fingers.
You hit this this channel, and then you're talking with
everyone in the area a vector highway. There's a lot
of planes up at the time any given time in
between Russia and Alaska. Planes are coming and going, cargo

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planes of all kinds. And there are six planes up there,
including my friend's plane, each with two pilots, so we're
talking twelve pilots and to a pilot. Each one of
them says that they see this thing and they've never
seen anything like it before. So my friend comes back
and reports on this, and I asked him if it's

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okay to do a little interview because I need I
needed to get this on tape. He says sure, So
I've got that. He shows me the route, he tells
me the story, think back, do a quick life review.
I'm like, is this happening. I'm starting to figure out,
you know, like people get contact, they get clairvoyant, or
they you know, they have kind of an escalating paranormal experience.

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So then let's just jump jump to I don't know,
I'm gonna quit rapid fire and give you some pre
cog stuff. Okay. So April seventeenth, twenty twenty three, maybe
a year or two after my friend pilot Friend came
back and reported on his sighting, I said that they
were going to push back the date of the Big Bang.

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Three months later, space dot com in July twenty twenty three,
they put on an article that the universe was possibly
twice as old as previously thought. So I said, well,
that's pretty wild. And then in April of twenty twenty four,
I had a dream, a super vivid dream about an
aurora and an idea that there would be like this

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realization that human beings were psychic, that we had psychic capabilities,
and that this aurora would happen and then we would
find out that we were psychic. And so I wrote
this little silly poem about that. And then two weeks
later there was a massive aurora that reached down almost
to the equator, unlike previous auroras, and people were posting

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their pictures about them online and it was something to
talk about for many days. And it was exactly my dream.
It looked exactly like my dream, you know. And in
a strange way, this quality of light in the orb
was found broadcast in the sky for everyone to see.
And that was part of the meaning of the dream,

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that there was this connection I had with consciousness that
co occurred with this orb and that people generally are
going to see the light like I saw the light,
and that literally happened. And a couple of months later
after that, I had a dream with two dogs. This
little girl was trying to break up a dogfight between

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her two dogs. And the next day at work, I
pulled up into a driveway and there were two dogs
the kind that you would find in target commercials here
in the States, bull terriers, strange looking dogs, you know,
wide snouts and biyes and not like the dogs in

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my dream, which were more like labs, you know, more
like the common type of dog you'd find here. So
and on top of this, I had known and loved
dogs my entire life, and so wasn't prone to being
scared of dogs, even with this dream just prior. So
I get out and within ten seconds I get bit

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and it's like bad. It cuts through the my jeans
and it punctures my leg, and I'm like, this is
no way this is happening. The shock of it, it
like helps, it helps to deal with the uncomfortable nature
of the situation, Like was I naturally dissociated in the moment.
I'm like, there's no way. And the owner comes out,

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you know, she takes care of the dogs and I'm
on my way and it was no serious, super serious injury.
So I'm on the phone with somebody shortly thereafter, and
I'm talking with them about the situational I just had
a dream yesterday, you know, it wasn't exactly what this
situation is today, but so creepy. And they said, oh yeah,

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you know, and I said, you know, eventually, like how
are you? And they're like oh, I'm not too feeling well.
And it was like again an informational injection that they
had COVID, that I knew that, and I said, you
need to get tested right now. I said, you have COVID.
And they did super strange there. And I'm skipping a
lot of like you know this precognitive stuff, you know,

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let me let me throw this out there. I had
a bit of a drinking problem prior to this. I
had broken out. I wasn't like addicted, but I would,
I would use it as a crutch. But I found
myself at a bar because they had a what do
you call it trivia night? And I like trivia. So
I was there and I'm trying to, you know, build

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a social network. I'm trying to, you know, go out
there and build a life, and this is part of that.
So I'm there at this bar. And this must have
been twenty twenty three because the next day was the
Grush hearing. David Grush was to testify in Congress. I
was talking on the phone outside of the bar about
the situation. I said, you know, unless he gets assassinated

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or or comes down with like a turbo cancer or
something like that, there's no way to stop this train,
that this there's going to be a development. And as
I was talking about this cancer element, I turned around
and there was a woman who was staring in shock
right at me. And she she had this like platinum

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blonde hair and this look to her. It was something
going on with her. But I'm not one to brood
about things like this. People have their own lives, you know.
So I turned back around, I continue my conversation. I
end that I go back inside the bar, and I'm
sitting down and the waitress is like about to cry,
and I look at the tabletop. The vibe is way weird,

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and there's like plastic stand up that you put inserts
paper inserts into for like ads typically at bars and stuff.
And instead of like an ad for like the special
or the you know, incoming schedule of events or something
like this, for the bar, there was a notification that
there was that night donations being taken to help the

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circumstances of this woman who had worked at the bar
that everyone knew and loved, that had cancer and was
about to die. And I asked the bartender, like was
she here? And she said, and this is what I learned.
She said, no, she's getting ready to die. And she
almost you know, cried, She's basically half crying, you know.

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I felt so bad. At the same time, I'm like,
there's I can't tell anyone this. They're not in a
frame of mind to receive it. It's totally inappropriate. It's
not about me. But I saw her ghost. I felt
like it was her in the insert was a picture,
you know, that quality of blonde hair that just is

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rare in certain areas of the world, as it is here.
The look to her, it was her. I saw her
from twenty feet away and it wasn't like she was ephemeral.
It was like she was just another person. So but again,
she wasn't like she had that emotional flag made you
remember what she looked like. So then that's the only

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time I've ever seen, like, I think, a ghost. But
I mean so weird that it was so weird, And
then kind of I to try to maybe wrap this
up a little bit about my own personal precognitive experiences,
although I'm gonna be leaving some stuff out, you know,
it's just this is the these are the greatest hits
or whatever. Last year in September, I reached out I

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reached back out. Here's a you know, the theme, me
reaching out to a friend who and it was that
kid I had read the UFO book with in second grade.
Do you remember I used to draw a magic symbol.
Do you remember me doing psychic experiments and that I
used to draw this psychic symbol, and I drew in

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the text app the symbol. I drew it ten times
before I sent the one that I had sent, and
the one that I sent it wasn't geometrically perfect like,
it wasn't geometrically vertically or horizontally symmetrical. It was rough.
There was a scant the lines. There was a break

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in what you could call like the equator line. Again,
there was like an I and then a cross over it.
Roughly speaking, that's what it looked like. But it wasn't
an eye. It was my magic symbol. And I sent
this out to him, and two weeks later an image
of a photon came out and it maps to the symbol,

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even to include the imperfection, the parent roughness of it.
This canter to the equator line map mapped in the
photon's image to my magic symbol from right to left.
It bent down and there was a break in the
equator line right where my break had been, and there
was a little node on the top of the photon,

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and then I had a little node on the top
of mine. It was so creepy, but I put all
this on social media. I'm doing this, you know, experimental
protocol where I'm doing these experiments. They're time stamped and
then evidence results are coming back out, so I'm I'm
proving what I'm saying to some extent, And what's happening,

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I'm getting radio silence, like ontological shock, you could call
it maybe, but like there's this protective mechanism or something like.
I don't know. I have this idea that these things
happened to people who are on the fringes of society,
and there is a truth to like the schizotypal diagnosis
and all of that. But at the same time, there

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are people that have these paranormal experiences and they're on
the fringes of society. And what's happening is I think
the novel novelty is getting feathered in to pistemological structure,
to the above board consensus that were slowly getting woken up,
slowly getting feathered in and the phenomenon chooses situations in

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which there's a kind of plausible deniability that such and
such hermit on such and such day twenty years ago
saw a light. Well, big deal. They are a crazy hermit.
They hardly have any friends, and when they talked about it,
nobody said anything that this all works to effect. Not
a kind of shunning from me. That's not what it's about.
It's about the way this phenomenon feathers itself in unconsciousness

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is an element. I mean, I think about writers who
show perhaps a kind of precognition. I'm thinking about Ingersoll
Lockwood with his story about someone a child named Baron Trump,
who grows up in Trump Tower to become the last president,
you know, the quote unquote last President. The same author
who would write about the Titania. Titania, a ship that

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was like eighty eight feet long. It is within like
three feet of the actual dimensions of a Titanic, a
ship which in the novel strikes an iceberg and sinks impossibly.
You know, I'm thinking about Edgar Allan Poe when he
writes about the narrative of Arthur Gordon pim that there's

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a cannibal situation with a character named Richard Parker, and
then years later there is actually a Richard Parker who's
subjected to a cannibalistic circumstance that is exactly what's in
the book. And I'm thinking about Philip K. Dick and
the Pink Beam, you know, and Vallie and the fact

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that he, Philip K. Dick, got this idea that his
son needed to go to the doctor because I think
it was like an inguinyl hernia, a very specific medical situation.
It was threatening to his son, and his son has
this exact hernia. And then you know, again with Philip K. Dick,
there's a lot of material there that speaks to precognition.

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There's this woman with black hair that manifests in his
real life. And I'm thinking about Grant Morrison, the comic
book writer who wrote the Invisibles that the Matrix was
based on, who talks about this that there's a literal
like magic to writing that he manifested a girlfriend and

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all this other stuff that he had contact with non
human intelligence. After getting physically stressed out, he climbed his
pyramid up in like a single breath. It was like
three hundred steps and at the top of this pyramid.
He had like an experience I think, but then it
would be recapitulated later on that night in his hotel
room where he had contact with Nhi became precognitive or

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realized that he was. I would like to say also
that you know, I said earlier that there was an
unconscious element unconsciousness. This that's a feature of this, this process.
I think there are there are people who are precognitive
and they don't know it. I have one interesting to
me anyway, example that I was thinking the other day,
you know, some time ago, really that j R R

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Token right, the lord of the rings, the elves are
the tall whites, Galum is a gray, sar On is
a reptilian. Humans are in the middle. This is all
all pseudo factual to believe the witnesses talk about these
races that j R. R. Token is presaging, reconfiguring it

(01:03:09):
in his own scheme, but relating truthful information. This is
what's called I think today's instrumental communication that artists through
time using consciousness and this you know, methodology of the
emptiness producing illness that's utilized by humanity. And I would

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I would just probably in conclusion, I would like to
land on the idea about Prometheus, the myth of Prometheus.
The name means foresight literally to include that notion about
planning ahead, precognition and Prometheus steals fire from the gods
by way of a hollow fennel stock. This is a

(01:03:51):
looking at it the other day. This is clearly a
metaphor for the central nervous system, the spine as the
hollow fenel stock that hides the PREMEI in fire that
rises up and descends down, you know, the Kundalini energy thing.
This is Promethean fire that allows occasionally clairvoyance. The thersis

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t H y R s U S as a metaphor
for the central nervous system really kind of messy. At
the end, I want to say, you know this download, okay,
there's a lot to be made of it. That there
is no information is it self? Information seems to be
a super toutological fact, self evident but deceptively simple, And

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in thinking about it, I relate to information theory, like
if there was a mountain of rushmore of information theory,
you'd have as one of the faces on the mountain,
claud Shannon. And there's a kind of information which is
named after Well. Information state after him call called Shannon entropy,

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which is kind of a measure of uncertainty or certainty
regarding input and output of information. I think, like again,
this is out of my wheelhouse. This stuff lands on
my lap, and I think it's meaningful. So I'm not
here to not say this at this point. If you
look prior to the Big Bang at the notion as

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a thought experiment, that there is no information there that
itself is information, which you could call a specific kind
of Shannon entrophy. Claude Shannon was famous for also coming
up with the idea of the white space, the break
in between words, as a kind of twenty seventh letter.
It helps to obviously break and set communications. But here,

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prior to the Big Bang, we might have a kind
of white space, this non information which is itself information
that co occurs with awareness that this is prior to
the Big Bank, not before right, that there's a difference
between the two where one refers to a logical sequence.
This is the logos. If we can develop and understand

(01:06:13):
this logos prior to the Big Bang, we could possibly
see ourselves in a future where there's a bridge between
spirituality and science one that may have been present in
prior times and now they're divided falsely or you know, productively. Also,

(01:06:35):
it makes sense to categorize materialism on one hand and
idealism on the other, But so much is lost in
the If you maintain the distinction forever, we're bearing the
fruits of that. We need to reconvene over the subject.
If we can figure out that prior to the Big Bang,

(01:06:56):
there could be a kind of Shannon entropy that represents health,
the minimum entropy value and the maximum entropy value. At
the same time, there are all kinds of spiritual notions
that are waiting for us to take them up and
realize and perhaps meditate on, you know, and empower ourselves

(01:07:16):
by way of doing that. Who knows what could happen.
But I believe in this, this idea that consciousness is fundamental.
It's the thing in itself, the gnomon a G N
O M O N. That's where I'm at today, That's
what I've got.

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Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
Thank you for sharing that, Gabe. In fact, when you
grew up Grant Morrison, it reminded me of a post
I did, I think a couple of months ago, and
it is all based around famous creators and inventors and
visionaries who all claim that their ideas came from another place,
pretty much loads that you mentioned we had in their tesla,

(01:08:54):
and a Grallaan Poe, David Bowie I think was in there,
and Carl Jung, David Lynch, Philip k Dick, William Blake,
Terrence McKenna had loads in there.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
So you posted about this recently.

Speaker 2 (01:09:07):
Back in the summer. I think the pre cognition. When
was the last time you had something that happened last
pre correlated.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
It was just a couple of weeks ago, maybe like
six days now. I want to say, really maybe less
than a week. This is going to be maybe a
minute long. What happened was I wanted to contact somebody.
I'm on ex the social platform, and I wanted to
contact Cliff High, who has this theory about people, you know,

(01:09:36):
having they're all precognitive and they have psychic impressions that
leak unconsciously through language use, in particular through non sequiturs
and strange linguistic artifacts that seem out of place but
aren't noticed as such, I mean as psychic impressions by
people unless they're really paying attention. So we built this machine,

(01:09:57):
this algorithm to scrape the net and to aggregate psychic
impressions and then publish reports about what's coming down the
mountain this way. So I said, I want to talk
to this guy absolutely, And I said, at the same time,
I'm going to do another experiment. So I'm going to

(01:10:18):
sit here, I'm going to try to telepathically, which wasn't
really strength of mind. It was all precognition mostly like
ninety percent of this stuff experiences that I've got are
pre cognitive. So I said, I'm going to try to
telepathically reach out to Cliff High to have him contact me.
So I did. I'm like, okay, Cliff, please please contact me.
I wake up the next day to someone who was

(01:10:42):
posing as Cliff High, a fake Cliff account, but I
am ready to believe, and it's the real Cliff High.
So I get all excited. I explained about the experiment
the night before, and we continue this conversation and I say,
you know, I mentioned a philosopher. I'm interested in a
living American philosopher. At the same time, the real Cliff

(01:11:06):
Hi suddenly begins a conversation with this philosopher, this living philosopher,
and they have this argument. I'm like, wow, this is
really Cliff High. I'm talking with him in his d
MS about this guy. He goes in on his public
post and starts an argument with the same guy that
I'm talking about with in my DMS. And then you know,

(01:11:29):
the conversation extends into the next day and I beg
this post about you know, the absurdity of a scientific
experiment that had thousands of beagles dying by way of
the bite of the sand flea like they had all
these dogs pinned down? Are they what's going to happen?
You know, We're gonna subject them to a million sand fleas?

(01:11:51):
What's gonna happen? And how absurd that is? You know,
some of the experiments that we put up so much
money for and costs so much offering through their completion
to only arrive at an obvious answer at the end.
And I put this post on Facebook kind of separate
from Cliff right, Cliff I and both his fake and

(01:12:12):
real manifestations. But and then in real life, I continue
and I see a dog. The very next delivery out
I've got is to a veterinarian's office, and the only
animal in the waiting room with their owner was at
beagle with the cone around their head as though they
had fleas. So I'm like, wow, I'm going to share
this with Cliff. This is totally like possibly precognitive. So

(01:12:33):
I send it to him, and then Cliff, the real
Cliff I posts about a metaphor about dogs with fleas, right,
So I'm like, Wow, this guy's really into me. I
can't believe it. Like I am getting the attention from
the Cliff I and we're having this like two day
long conversation and he's referencing our combo all the way through.

(01:12:55):
And then come to find out, this defake Cliff I
starts getting me into a crypto and he wants me
to like put money into this account for crypto, and
you know, the real Cliff High is about crypto. He's
basically about this like precoc thing on the one hand
and crypto on the other. So I figure out this
guy that's talking with me and the DMS is fake.

(01:13:16):
At the end, I'm like, no, this is a scam.
This is a fake Cliff High. Unreal. I can't believe it.
And then I kind of like look back, like six
days ago, I looked back at the whole thing. I'm like, wow,
it wasn't And it was not a case of successful telepathy.
It was a case of precognition. I was precognitive about

(01:13:37):
a fake Cliff High contacting me that very next day.
I was precognitive about the real Cliff High posting about
beagles with fleas and that I would see a beagle
with you know, a cone around is or her head
as though it had fleas. And it was just like
an ego inflation that had me not realizing not discerning

(01:13:59):
correctly that it was a fake Cliffy that was to
contact me, if that makes sense. So that was just
six days ago.

Speaker 2 (01:14:07):
Pretty recent. Then it seems to come in many forms.
You mentioned that it happened when you were writing. The
first thing that jumped to my mind was about Grant
Morrison again, when you were actually saying that you were
writing these characters that were real characters, and then they
would start appearing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
Yeah, it was real people exactly, and you know, I
was going to try to obscure or conflate their appearance
in this like fictional novel, right, which, to be honest,
eighty percent autobiographical, you know, Like I think most of
these novels that are purported to be pure fiction are
they're just straight up auto bio with like twenty percent fake.
And I was going to like obscure it. But yeah,

(01:14:47):
I was real people that I was intending to work
with as material, and yeah, they would show up like
that moment in the day at the time, like I've
got my computer in my lap and I'm typing about
the situation. I'm like, Okay, it's time to crack open
some of this material that I've reserved until now because
I need to finish this book and I've got to
get something done. So here we go. I'm when I

(01:15:09):
started doing it. Knock knock, knock, knock knock. You've got
somebody at the door. Who is it? It's them? Wow?

Speaker 2 (01:15:16):
Because all like a manifestation, isn't it. Have you ever
tried experimenting with that idea? We write in and see
what you can produce. Well, try the same kind of
experiment again. If something happened like that, then even right
in is a short story.

Speaker 1 (01:15:31):
Yeah. The beagle example is one of these. I just
posted randomly about this bagle, you know protocol. That's one.
That's an example exactly like you describe. I just pulled
out of thin air this thing. I wrote it down
in a post. That's That's the other element is I
am doing that while doing it in public, in timestamp,

(01:15:51):
you know, with the social media, so people can see
the process. Like look like although you might think I
had this picture of this dog with the this cone on,
is that before I wrote the thing and now I'm
just fixing it to fake precognition. I've got the data
in my phone, you know. And the poem about the aurora,

(01:16:14):
the dream that I had. If you recall, I had
a dream about the Aurora last year in April, on
my birthday, late April, I put that I'm like, I
need to post this. I'm going to spend four to
five hours in the middle of the night. I have
to work the next day, but I'm compelled to write
this poem, get the dream down in a poem form
and put it out online. So I do, and two

(01:16:36):
weeks later, phantasmic glorical light is cast across the skies
and the language of the poem maps to the reality
of the Aurora, and then also the meaning of the poem,
which I do make Plaine in prose in the same
post where I say this is about everyone realizing they

(01:16:56):
are psychic. We are psychic people living within a psychic cosmos.
That's what I said. And then like the telepthy tapes
broke out, which by the way, in my novel, I
have an autistic kid who and I wrote this in
twenty ten. Wait, way before any of this telepathy tape

(01:17:17):
stuff come out, I have this autistic kid using facilitated communication.
You know, I have the language. I have it literally down.
They use facilitated communication, and the idea is they're psychic
and I've you know, I've got the metadata in on
the computer. People can say, oh, I wrote this after

(01:17:37):
the telepathy tapes. Well the evidence is literally here. You know,
anyone can come and go and look on my phone
that they want to. So, yeah, I'm doing that. I'm
proceeding with them doing the experiments on social media. There's
absolutely something to that little quick things. You know, I'm
leaving stuff out. I mean a high number of incidences

(01:17:59):
that any little post just seeming to come back with
results this feedback loop, which is really intense. It was
so intense that I had to stop. I was doing
like a protocol right, Like I was fasting. I'm eating
quite well these days, I was. But on top of this,
I was fasting and I was being an extra good boy,
you know. And the same phenomenon I was trying to

(01:18:22):
describe with wrapping up my novel with was happening in
the last couple of weeks. And when one is going
to say, oh, this kid's exaggerating, now, it's like everything
he's writing is like they write movies about this, and
the movies are corny, you know. But it's another example.
This is within eight days ago or so, I just
did a little quick post about Hey, guys, you know what,

(01:18:44):
here's another example of precognition that's quick and light. I said.
I used to say, as a turn of phrase, you
know the glaze thing that's like really popular today in
the twenty twenty one before anyone was saying it, And
I said glaze glazed glazing as a joke, you know,
in my own speech, so much that I had all

(01:19:09):
forms of the word burning to the ground, I said,
just before it was time to deploy socially in a
way that everyone was doing it. I was done with
all forms of that, just before it was time to deploy,
I said. Two days later or the next day, I'm
walking down an aisle in the grocery store and I

(01:19:30):
see a gigantic display of cereal and it says glazed
is genius, Glazed is genius, over and over and over
and over and over, right like they were. It was
like Kellogg's. There's somebody where they were taking advantage of.
And I know I'm a little long wounded man. Thank
you again for like having me on and letting me

(01:19:50):
go like long form here.

Speaker 2 (01:19:51):
But that's all right, that's sorry. It's no problem.

Speaker 1 (01:19:55):
Brother.

Speaker 2 (01:19:56):
Do you think this stuff you've experienced over the years
has any connection with early trauma?

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Yeah? Absolutely. I didn't do a good job explaining earlier
that the trauma was like forcing me out of a
comfort zone that had me pushing my biology to its limits.
And I think there was something maybe with the nervous
system that developed out of that trauma that allowed me
the capability to be precognitive. Say yeah, let me add

(01:20:27):
this that there might be something to evolutionary biology, like
a biological pressure to see around corners, to survive sociopaths,
Like it was incumbent on me to see the future
in some sense, to get along.

Speaker 2 (01:20:43):
Do you think this has helped you over the years
or do you think has hindered you in any way?

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
It's mostly helped me. I would say, there is hindrance,
but it's on me to grow up, make something out
of that, alchemize it, you know. So it's again pressure
that you can use to produce or to grow. And
I don't got it perfect triple underline that I'm not
a perfect person at all. I don't know. I've got

(01:21:09):
major problems and a lot of it has to do
with integration and the kind of hindrance that comes from
you know, it's like I'm getting stonewalled right now by
people that are supposed to be my friends. I'm showing
this remarkable evidence, Nick, It's remarkable, and it's radio silence.
So I mean, it's like remarkably quiet out there.

Speaker 2 (01:21:31):
That's just the way it is. I always look at
things the world as if everyone is shouting at the
same time, but nobody is listening.

Speaker 1 (01:21:38):
Your podcast is such a good godsend. You're doing it, right, man,
I think.

Speaker 2 (01:21:44):
So it's several things gaber right because with obviously we're entertainment,
that's just a sense tainment goes on the airwaves. But
also it's many ever things as well. So it's a
place where people can come and share to get things
off their chest, which is liberally for the guests, yeah right, yeah,
And then in turn you've got listeners out there. Some

(01:22:05):
people just listen just for the spooky stuff, all right.
Some people listen because they've experienced things themselves and again
they don't understand and they just want to kind of
connect some dot if they can. So it works on
several different levels, all right. So even though I've got
an aiding on the front cover, and it's called UFO.
Doesn't necessarily mean this is what we're doing. We do

(01:22:26):
many different things, but the main idea for it is
it's like like a digital campfire more than anything.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
Awesome. Yeah, I like the way you put that encapsulates
a lot of how I feel about it. I've listened
to two episodes and you tell no lie, you I
think accurately self report. That's really good.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
That's what it's all about.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
All right, man, and thank you again. I don't have
anything to add except for I'd like to express again
in my gratitude and I've got some rough interpersonal edges,
you know, so oh I just want to do is
just say thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
You're more than welcome. Sometimes those edgeous make a person, Gabe.
I really appreciate you coming on sharing that for our listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Thanks, thank you.

Speaker 2 (01:23:10):
It has been wonderful to meet you. Okay, take care,
keep in contact Gabe, all right, and we will speak soon.

Speaker 1 (01:23:16):
Thanks bye, Nicky bye for now.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
Well, that is all for this episode. Keep updated and
connected with a show on x Facebook and Instagram, And
if you have an encounter that you'd like to share
on the podcast, you can email me at ufo Chronicles
at gmail dot com, or you can reach out to
me via the contact page on my website, ufo Chronicles
podcast dot com. A big thank you to Gabe for

(01:23:41):
sharing tonight, and thank you all for listening. I will
be back next week. Till then, stay safe and keep
watching the skies. Goodbye,

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