Are UFOs Interdimensional Demons?

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Hey, what's up. Welcome tothe Truth Seca Podcast. My name is
Erin. I'm excited and delighted tobe with you. Now you're making fun
of me. You do it,You're doing my thing and you and you're
making fun of it. I'm notmaking fun. I love it. I'm
excited and delighted to be with you. I'm just dorky. It's just what
you get. So all I amexcited. My amazing guest today that I

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have with me is truth Seeker.Hey, what's up? Everybody? World
renowned scholar, no UFO expert.Keep going, belove it of christ mystic,
Christian mystics. I'm joking Christian mysticfor sure, talent. Well,
thanks for having me, Erin,You're so welcome. One of the last

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ones. They were like, itwas so cool to see you interviewing your
wife. Yeah. I had to, you know, I talk a lot.
I had to make myself. Iwanted to make sure we got your
story out on the on the traumaone in your story, So try my
best. You did good, youdid great, And I don't talk a
lot, so talking a lot isa challenge for me. So here we
go. Well, we're going totalk about uphology, UFOs and angels and

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aliens and what they may be.Maybe we'll share some of our experiences,
because God knows, we got some. We got some. I feel like
I'm leaning in for the mic andjust yeah, okay, all right,
So what do we got going onbefore we start talking about weird stuff?
So let's talk about weird stuff.Let's talk about regular stuff. So we

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want to talk about our retreat comingup. We have a retreat coming up
July eighteenth through the twentieth in Knoxville, Tennessee. Our good friends Melissa and
John Powell are having us up there, and Melissa is going to teach on
urbalism and medicinal plants, and we'regoing to have ca Caw ceremony. We're
going to have a sacred sound immersionwith the sound bowls and a gong.

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We just got an amazing gong.It's super resonant. It's really you can
feel your heart shaker vibrating when youplay it. It's amazing, it's freaking
awesome. We are going to dosome teaching on fumigation incense, and we
recently got in relationship with Awakened tothe one. Is that the name that

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get right awakened to the one.It's a new company, new people that
we learned about through someone else,and they have relationship with the Frankinsense trees.
Yeah, and it's Boswilia's sakra.It's the sacred Frankensnse strain. So
this one is is bred only forthat purpose of being used in sacred ceremony

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and they actually go and harvest itthemselves and have relationship with the land and
with the trees and the sap andman, it is beautiful and yeah,
it's beautiful medicine. And we're goingto be bringing it to be a part
of our ceremony with you guys inKnoxville. Yeah, I'm excited to uh
be able to introduce that to everybody. It kind of sucks, though,

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because like, once you've been introducedto that, you can't go back.
Oh, I know, you can'tgo back to Amazon incense or or resin.
Like, it's not the same.It's not the same at all.
Intention matters, man, when youreally do it with your heart right and
your intention set for what it's goingto be used for, and it helps

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create a more beautiful experience for people. Yeah, listen, I mean shoots
there's a lot of amazing stuff towhere like where we're going with this podcast,
when we're talking about aliens and UFOsand angels and demons and all that,
I think that that there's a conversationwhere, you know, fumigation,

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for one, played a role inantiquity and in ancient Christianity to drive out
spirits, to subdue and make spiritssubside, and to calm them down.
I mean even with you your spirit, you know, with your your feelings
and emotions and stuff, and there'sall of that just the way you feel.
But also like a deeper conversation thatthese plants and mushrooms and things like

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that were before the embodiments of godsor people. You know, all of
the mythology ties ties the plant,all the kingdoms back to a former kingdom
that existed. So, you know, I think it's real easy because we

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get caught up in like that's notspiritual, Incense isn't spiritual, you know,
And you see that by most Christians, they've been taught to demonize or
to not to demonize what do youcall it, disrespect and really trample these
precious gems pearls under their feet.The moment we begin to talk about them.
You don't need that for exorcisms.Well, O, the people before

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you did, the early Church did, and they wrote about it extensively.
Let me tell that to people whocall on Jesus every day asking for help
and then nothing happens. Like,what are you going to tell those people
you need Jesus. It's only Jesusis what you need, is what they
say, until Jesus doesn't work.Yeah. So I like the cut one
comment you said about fumigation and incensewhere it came to somebody said, Jesus

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is all you need? Would yousay? I said, but Jesus is
the one holding this plant out toyou, saying this can heal you,
and you just slap his hand awayand say, no, I want you
to do it. I don't wantto do it. I want you to
do it. Yeah, Jesus isall you need. Okay. Jesus has
given you these incense that He's madeaway for healing to flow freely from the

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throne of Heaven to the bosom ofMother Gaiah to you that you, by
partaking your body would be at ease, your mind would be at ease,
your emotions will come into subjection.To the perfect will of God, the
word of God, by coming intoharmony and unison with everything. But you

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don't want it. You'd rather takean alternate route and have Jesus. The
Bible says, do not tempt theLord that God. I think all of
that falls under the guise of tempting, because you're like, I don't want
that. I want to wear theclothing. I want to eat what I
want to eat. I want towear what I want to wear. I
want to do what I want todo. That's rebellion. Rebellion is as
the sin of witchcraft. God's givenyou precepts. And the reason we're so

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passionate about these is because we findall of this in the Bible, like
in Passing. In Passing, youdon't just like read about Abraham planting a
grove of a certain tree and thenkeep moving and that tree is never mentioned

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again. We're like, when we'rewhere we are in the Bible, we
don't let anything slide hold on onAbraham, what tree? What growth did
you plan? What is the tamerisktree? The termrist tree look like?
What does it do to the psyche? What does it do to your body?
Why the pastor didn't tell me aboutthe termrist Tree who came through that
desert later and encountered those trees.Yeah, so there's little pearls that are

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spread out before the swine, andwe've all trampled them because we just oh
yeah, tamrist Tree seen one ofthem before. Oh yeah. Franknsin's resident
that the priests would burn in thetemple and go in and receive messages from
God. I don't need frankinsense.I just need Jesus. Okay, your
life looks like it too. Yourlife looks like all you need is Jesus

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because it seemed like it ain't working. I mean, if Christ is in
all and through all, it isit is. It is just Jesus.
I know it sounds like facetious orwhatever we're mocking, but we're mocking the
fact that every good and perfect giftcomes from the Father above. We reject
Christ when he comes in other forms, like even other people, Like somebody
can do something mean to you,that doesn't mean that they don't have Christ

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and Love within them somewhere, Andwe reject people. We reject plants,
foods. The moment you tell,so many evangelicals, won't they find out
that Jesus wasn't a white man.They're not. They're going to reject that.
They already do, like he hasto look a certain way, speak
a certain language. And when youfind out that he's not any of those

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things that you think, but allof them at the same time. Yeah,
you know, for me, it'sa greater love or greater respect,
you know, for him, agreater power that he literally is in all
and through all. I don't knowwe were talking about this. This is
the you know, the details ofthe relationship that it is ancient and it

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is an intelligence with all of thekingdoms, especially the plants and the minerals,
in the crystals and all of that. So to to deny people an
aspect of any of that is todeny them an aspect of Jesus. It
is it's blasphemy in the biggest formYEP to demonize these things that are so

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beautiful that that help you himself breathelife and created it for us to show
us an aspect of himself. Yeah. The studies are as as simplistic and
as close or as deep as youwant to go with them. And I
would, you know, suggest toany and everybody to just do a simple

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study on like you know, whateverplant that's mentioned and look up the medicinal
properties, but also look up thestudies that were done by different universities,
and you'll find out that, holdon, there is a plant Sage,
frankinsense, Mr Paolo Santo, copolresin, jasmine, lavender, all of

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these you know, central oils gotbig for a reason. They exist like
in tandem with with with us andand uh and help us and alleviate so
many symptoms and make us feel betterand relieve stress. And the fact that
you know, people don't want totie it into demons and you know,

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demonology or using it with exorcisms orwhatever is They don't you know, they
don't know what whatever definition they havein their mind of what a demon is
and what at least what the symptomsthey also cause. It's a spirit of
infirmity. And so if you readthe list, when you look up these

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studies, they like Sage and somany friends in the plant kingdom, like
their DNA, they exist to counteractall of these things that were done to
us by the enemy, like theyfight against these symptoms. They fight.
Eat this plant, your depression goesaway. I don't want that plant.

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I want Jesus, Okay, youdon't. What is the spirit of infirmity?
If it's not depression and sickness?What is a demon? Then?
Is it a ghostly ghastly goblin?It is, it's all of those things.
But you know, the way youtell that they're there is not you

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know you're seeing them outside of you. It's you're seeing how you're responding to
you know, under pressure, andyou have this stuff in you well,
And demons come to show us thingsabout ourselves that maybe we need to change
or get rid of things that arestuck in us. They come to like
prick us and you know, bringout these negative energies and negative emotions and

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things and so that I mean,they even have a purpose. But when
they come and stir up this depressionor anxiety or whatever, and it's it's
giving you an end to say,hey, I know now that this is
in here, and I can dosomething to get it out. Then why
wouldn't you use every tool in yourarsenal Because as a society we are taught

(12:09):
to look for a quick fix foreverything. You don't want to change your
diet and exercise every day and getout in the sunlight. You'd rather just
take a pill, go to thedoctor and take a pill, so quick
fix you don't you don't have tophysically do anything. Just take this pill.
All the work's been done for you. But I mean, how many

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times does the easy road lead tothe good result? They say, well,
you pay now or pay later?Yeah, you know for your diet
or for your health. You know, so we got more than enough,
you know, allies. And whatI always tools like, we have so
many tools in our arsenal that helpus that we don't have to be reliant

(12:56):
on one thing. We can seeGod and in count our God through all
of those things. And uh,it's so amazing that we have, you
know, diet and nutrition and incenseand resin. Man, that's just a
couple that's not like our only thingit is. They're amazing when you get
into relationship with it and just thefeeling and what it's doing to your body.

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I think that leads us to somethingwe should talk about. We talked
about on the last episode is ourfriends at Magic Mind. Since this these
awesome shots of love energy, cognitivefunction, Yeah, that really that really
helped We always talk about like justbecause of our you know, routine and

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what we're doing in the mornings andstuff. And we've been taking them first
thing in the morning with our coffeewhile we do our Bible studies and so
helping them to focus. And we'retaking vitamins because it's got vitamins in it,
it's got nutrients. It helps youto focus and then to be calm

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and not to be jittery. Andit's got this like extended like prolonged release,
so it's not like this quick energyshot to stay awake. When I
was a truck driver, I totallycould have used these. Everybody's like hitting
no those to try to stay awakeat the wheel and stuff. And it's
crazy. I couldn't drink that stuffhard racing and pounding and stuff. But

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like something like this I think wouldhave been good for me as a truck
driver. And shout out because wegot a bunch of truck drivers listening to
this. I get messages people loveit. They're like, dude, I'm
doing what you used to do andit's awesome. So shout shout out to
our truck driving community. But Iwould have I would have loved to have
this, Oh yeah, totally becauseit's so good for you. It's got
new tropics in it, it's gotlions made that's good for forming new neural

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connections in your brain. Yeah,So any kind of study or anything you're
doing that you want to form newpatterns, this is great to accompany that
kind of a lifestyle. Yeah,our lifestyle has changed drastically in the last
five months, and we have alot of new things that we're in relationship
with. And and I say alot, I wouldn't even say it's a

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lot. It's just different things nowthat are a part of our daily routine
and daily regimen. And so gettingthe right nutrients and vitamins and the mushrooms
and all of the stuff from youknow, we're talking about frankinsense and sage
and all of the stuff that youknow, the mushrooms that this this drink

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has, and it has the vitamins, and we take our vitamins every day,
and it's got turmeric in it,and we take turmeric every day.
Like a part of our daily doseof what we take is already in here.
And we we have like we takeour vitamins and stuff like separately,
but now we've got them all inone place. Yeah, because we're buying
all these We have vitamin C,vitamin D K, vitamin K, turmeric,

(16:03):
and then I wanted to get someof the supplements for the Lion's main
There's a guy here locally that sellslines maine, but he's he's like a
good hour drive away, so wetry to hit it when we're nearby,
and we just haven't worked it out. But I mean, this has got
that in there. It's got linesmaine, it's got cordyce EPs. It's
just like an amazing little mind performanceshot. Everything on in one your vitamins

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and focus and a little bit ofcaffeine and the green tea that he puts
in here. It helps your bodyabsorb the caffeine over time so you don't
have that spike and then feel likecrap later. Yeah. They have a
no risk money back guarantee that ifyou try it and you don't like it,
you can get your money back,no questions asked. Yeah, but

(16:48):
the thing is, like they believein their product, and we believe in
it just as much to say,go check it out because you're gonna love
it. Yeah, you're not gonnawant your money back. I mean,
so many people were working from homenow and have a problem focusing. Go
check them out. The link isin the description. You can go to
the website for Magic Mind and wehave a promo code that will give you

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twenty percent off of a one timepurchase and I think it was like forty
eight percent off of a subscription.So and again risk free money back guarantee.
Go try it, use our promocode and hopefully they'll keep sending us
more because it's amazing. We'll makesure the links in the description. This

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stuff's awesome. They grow the mushroomsorganically in California. They source out everything
from the highest quality. I knowthat their macha is the highest grade available
for purchase. They really made asuperior product and it does what they say.
And that's why they have the moneyback guarantee because they know you try

(17:53):
it and you do it want more. There are people who will do that,
but they're justaking. They're just ahater. They're just do Hey,
I can get something free. Youjust want to free, be like you
buy it and to try to getit back, Like you're not gonna want
to like if you like, whenyou pay for this, you're gonna you're
gonna want to you're gonna want tosign up for the subscription. And I
want to say we noticed a differenceon like day two or three. It

(18:15):
did not notice it. I noticedas soon as we took it, though,
I mean that's it. Yeah,you like imbibe it and it integrates
with you of like, cause you'rejust your your whole mood over the span
of like I think it's like aseven day thing or seven to ten days
or whatever. To drink it.It just changes the way that that you
you feel like in general. Yeah, it's just like it just gives you
a boost, like you know.And uh, but I mean as soon

(18:38):
as I took it, like youcan feel the benefits then, but then
you know, I don't know,it's just I love it. So how
about cheers? Cheers? Magic mind? And they say you should chill it,
but I don't think you have toit the way it is sharper mind,

(19:02):
lower stress, better energy. Again, we take this usually with our
with our Bible studies first thing,but since we were doing a podcast where
like let's wait, let's drink iton camera and show everybody. Yeah,
because we really love it, andwe thank you guys will too there's gonna
be a bunch of stuff that we'regoing to be promoting again. We talked
about the incense and the resin andall of the stuff that those guys Synthus

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is amazing, Like you you wereabout to cry. It brought tears to
my eyes. That's crazy. That'sis that it's weird. It's awesome.
But like I know, I'm weird. It's okay, No, I'm just
it's awesome. It's it's cool becausewe you know, we get emotional over
burning incense. Yeah. Well,even like the last podcast we did,

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we talked about when you give somethinga meaning that doesn't have meaning, Like
a lot of people could get thatand you know, and aren't it ritualistically
and not mean the same thing.But for me it has a deeper meaning
and it's just very very emotional andspiritual and yeah, yeah it touches me
here. Yeah, I mean justbecause there's levels to it, you know,

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because we were like we were contentwith Amazon bought frankensense. It's good.
We love it, like it's ohyeah, spiritual, awesome. But
then it's like I feel like God'slike, hey, we got some people
we want you to meet who Yeah, are in relationship and know the angels
that you guys are talking about andyou guys are teaching people about now that

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we just tested you to make surethat you like the knockoff you know,
Amazon Resident whatever it is, becauseit's not the same thing. Yeah,
that's what I'm saying. Because it'snot the same thing, and we're going
to introduce you to this. Well, there's several different strains too. Once
you start studying Frankensnse and the Bosweeliertrees that it comes from. There's several
different trees and like I said,this one that he harvests from that they

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harvest from. The Bosweilia sacra iswas created and cultivated only for sacred purposes.
Yeah, so anyway, we'll haveall that stuff. We're gonna if
we believe in something, man,we're going to share it. Like and
that's weird too. Who somebody saidthat recently, But it's been a meme
over years for people like trying tohide the good stuff, like they don't

(21:29):
want to tell you about the goodstuff or how you can become successful or
something like. There is a scarcitymentality. I forget who it was,
but somebody brought it up recently andwas just like blown away that we're like
giving away all of our resources andplugs and stuff like that. It's like
we don't operate out of a lackof mentality anymore. Like when you realize

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that there is no such thing aslack, this is just something that you
create. Abundance is everywhere. Anda friend of mine shared this today on
Facebook that fundance is all around you. It's you that creates the limitation.
So when you realize that and removethe limitation, well, I mean,
what what's the fear? Yeah,the only fear is like, oh my

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gosh, everyone's gonna have this awesometool, this awesome experience. And that's
not a fear, that's a hope. Yeah, and you you know,
it comes full circle. I doit in hopes of that. I feel
like I've projected some in the pastwith my friends, but you know,
of like how to you know,start a podcast, so let's do this,

(22:33):
or how to do this with music? And they, you know,
I don't know if they you know, I would say that they didn't ask,
but they did. And you justwant to help, yeah, because
I want somebody to help me,Like like if you're starting a podcast,
or you say, man, Iwant to do this, I want to
quit work in my job. Iwish I could stay at home and make

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music. Guess what you can,sir, I love to stay home and
make music. You can. Ilove to stay at home, and you
can as long as you're showing upand you do something that you love.
I really wish that everybody could dothat. And I always would say everybody
deserves to do what they love.But the deserve is a strange word to

(23:19):
say that you deserve. You don'tdeserve it if you don't go get it.
If you go get it, thenthe deserving is going to meet you
and you're going to get it.There is no deserve. You went and
got it. You worked for it. Nobody gave it to you. Somebody
else would make excuses and say,well, you were this and you had
this, and you had that inyour faith, in your favor going for

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you, and man, listen themwould just when we talk about demons,
getting demons out and what they are, those are demons that tell you that
it goes back to that same mindsetof wanting a quick fix and want somebody
to do it for you, ungodlybelief everything you want is there. You
just have to get it. Youhave to go get it, and you're
in that limitation on yourself that somebodyhad a different circumstance, they had better

(24:04):
circumstances than me, they had moresupport than me, they had we done
heard it all we could be andwe set them all. Yeah, that's
how we know. There's no opinionthat we know this. We've seen it
happen and done too many times onboth sides. Those beliefs that enabled people

(24:26):
and those beliefs that hindered and stoppeople dead in their tracks. Because it's
a voice that speaks. It's avoice that tells you. It's been telling
you your whole life. Get backin line. When we used to get
out of line in school, we'dcut up. When we's like in even
in elementary and stuff and playing around. Get in line. You guys are
not in line. Get back insingle fire line. And when you still

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hear that voice, the moment youget out of line of what is normal,
of what everyone else is doing,what your family's doing, you had
to work through it, and yourfamily may have not even had said certain
things, but the voice in yourhead tells you these words in the tone
of your family, what they wouldsay or what they might say, and

(25:11):
it puts your butt in check sothat you don't get out of line because
you don't want that teacher yelling atyou. Derek, get in line until
you like, hold on, I'mforming a new line. We made our
own line of clothing. You shouldcheck it out. And it's fun too
when you get back to that placewhen you have manifested all this abundance and

(25:34):
you're doing what you love and thenit starts to show on paper and they're
like, dang, I'm really proudof you. You're doing really good here.
Yeah, We've not seeing that toomany times, like they didn't believe
it was possible. You know,what does Derek do for a living?
He sells drugs? What how doeshe He's got a podcast. You can't

(25:56):
make it big with the pot,you know, you know you can do
anything with the podcast. You knowwhat you have to do? Keep doing
it, keep showing up. Youcan't just do it. I try to
podcast. Ain't tried. How manyepisodes you got consistency? I tried to,
you know, put meditations together andsell them? And how many did

(26:18):
you do? I tried to write. I wrote a song. I put
a song out. Nobody listen howmany songs? You know? You get
better at it the further you goyou do. None of it's easy mm
hmm. I mean if if theycan only see, like how many settings
we had to go through on thecameras and the lights and the moving this

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one degree this way, and like, it's not easy. You have to
want it and you have to workfor it. It's how bad do you
want it? Yeah? And Iwant it bad? And then how many
times I still want to quit?Man? Damn this podcast? Do tomorrow?
You know, but it's how baddo you want it? Nobody's going
to do it for you? Soyou know, paying attention to the voices

(27:03):
that speak and where they're speaking from, so that you can learn the voice
of the accuser and the voice ofChrist, because the scriptures say that my
voice, you hear my voice,and my sheep follow me. A stranger's
voice they will not follow. Soif it's the voice that's always beating you
up, putting you back in place, and not calling you up higher and

(27:26):
trying to encourage you, you knowquickly what the voices are that are speaking
and uh, and you can youcan key in on the good one.
Yeah, you can key in onthe good one and it will lead you
everywhere you need to be. AndI think that everything we've mentioned with the
you know, fumigation and frankinsense andall that kind of stuff, it all
helps because with your mindset, theway you feel, you know, longevity.

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Yeah, and that voice, theother voice, is not all bad.
Sometimes it encourages you to encourages youto do things that you would think
is bad, but it always comesfrom a place of trying to protect you
or do something good for you.Like well maybe not always, but for

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instance, like the one that tellsyou don't try to do that because you're
going to fail. Like it's comingfrom a place of trying to protect you.
But it's also a test that youhave to rise above and say,
you know, thanks, but nothanks, I've got it. You can
go rest, you can go sitdown somewhere. I don't need the animal
voice right now. I need tolisten to the spirit voice. Yeah.

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Yeah, it's you know, theego thing, and it's good and bad.
It's it always checks you. Andyou know, we want to we
want to call people higher, youknow, And we've been dealing with that
a lot lately, as we're beingcalled hire you know, and we're living
our truth. There was a therewas a comment on one of my videos

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and somebody, you know, theykeep it's a weird People don't like that
term when people say your truth.You know what I'm saying, live your
truth, live your truth, likewhat you like. And they were like,
they say, there is no yourtruth, there's only the truth.
This is hype. And then theperson I think, you know, graciously
wanted to know, they like,hey, what do you mean when you

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say that? Because we know there'sone truth and it's Jesus, Like,
what do you mean your truth?And my truth is different than your truth
or whatever? What do you mean? I mean it's your belief systems,
because it becomes true for you ifit's true for nobody else. The Bible
says that whatsoever a man believeth inhis heart, so shally be so according

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to your belief, according to yourfaith, it will be done unto you.
So if you believe it's possible thatall things are possible to him that
believe, then they are don't matterif I believe in it or not.
That's your truth. Well I thinkyou should have you know, I think
the judge should have, you know, not pardoned you, I think,
But that's not the truth. Andit's definitely not your truth because he didn't
do that. That's an opinion andthat so these opinions that people are giving

(30:07):
about other people's beliefs or other people'struths, that's their truth. That's not
the truth. So it's always likeconvenient for the person to say, like,
how convenient is it that your truthis always the truth? That's why
they pull your truth out because theirtruth is the truth. So there is
no their truth. Oh, Ijust believe in the truth God. And

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so the moment you just try toget clear on their truth, you find
out, okay, those are beliefsand opinions that isn't the truth. What
goes back to that one person havingall the answers and every person who is
unaware of the fact that there isno one truth. It is your truth
that you're kind of making yourself Godsaying no, my truth is the only

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truth. Like that's putting yourself inthe place of God. Because even when
Christ came, he asked more questionsthan he gave in yeah, like we're
not supposed to have it all figuredout. We're supposed to be on a
journey. It's your relationship with thetruth. So yeah, Jesus is the
truth. It's absolute truth, Likeif you follow it alone, it'll stem
from a place. The facetious thingis you pretending you know it. You

(31:15):
know it and all of all ofthe routes and roads to that truth,
right, That's that's the pride oflike. And I guess unless you've been
up several of them and made itback down to the same starting point,
you know, then you don't know. I don't know what it is that
you know. Obviously, experience andgrace and humility gets you there. But

(31:38):
you know, I can agree onlike, there is truth, but beyond
that's just your perception and your relationshipwith the truth of an aspect or an
emanation. Anyway. Yeah, becauseChrist, like we already said, I
mean, He's in all and throughall, and their truth is you can
only have a relationship with Christ ifyou pray to the image of the white

(32:00):
guy with the brown hair and thelittle robe on. But then my truth
is I had an encounter with Christin the deepest parts of my being where
he showed me that He is ineverything, the sun, the plants,
the air, the sky, themushrooms, the water, everything. He
permeates everything, so I can havea relationship with Christ through everything. Those

(32:23):
and those people would say, no, you can't. Yeah, that's your
truth, that's not the truth.And I said, yeah, so that's
where you That's how quickly you learn. Just have a differing of opinion with
somebody who thinks that they have thetruth. It's okay to say, you
know, I salute you. That'swhat you believe. I salute you.
That's your truth. It's okay tosay that, Like, don't demonize other

(32:45):
people's truths. And it's okay foryou to have your own absolutes man like
the things that are bringing you comfortand bringing you like helping you, and
make them absolutes in your life aslong as it's not hurting nobody or hurting
yourself. You'll know all things bythe fruit. It's so easy to tell,
is the fruit that it bears insomeone's life. But trust me,
those absolutes are subjects or change.Yeah, that's how you know there is

(33:06):
no the truth. The moment youcall them an absolute, maybe maybe you
shouldn't. I don't want to encouragethat you have things that you hold in
higher regard. Yeah, you know, I said, I know this,
this is now because like I said, the next week, here you are
singing a different song. Yeah,the absolute thing that you absolutely totally believe
can you can be revealed to youon a deeper level later. Like that

(33:30):
was me in Christ. I alwayssaw him in the persona of a human
until he came to me and showedme otherwise. And now I have this
deeper, wider revelation of him.It doesn't negate the thing that I believed
before. It just increased my belief. Well, I mean, shoot,
almost everything has been that way forme. With studying. Most of those

(33:53):
the people who don't study, becausethis is what they say that a a
a wise person, a scientist,a philosopher will read hundreds of books,
thousands of books, and still knowthat they don't know anything because the vastness

(34:13):
of information and the things they're intoit, there's so much to learn every
day. And then some of thesepeople were talking about will read one book
and claim to be experts and knowit all. You know, that's the
difference here where you know, thosewho those who know don't speak, and

(34:34):
those who speak don't know, it'sjust how it is. I mean,
you know, but hey, letthem talk. So something else that people
have always thought they know the truthon his UFOs for many years, like
everybody thought it was nuts and bolts, like a metal a metal saucer,
because that's kind of what most ofthe imagery was. The government's coming out

(35:00):
and saying that they have you knowthat, yes it exists. Yes,
it's a lot of times they'll sayit's their own technology. They were doing
testings or trainings or whatever. Andthen when you start looking for the UFOs,
a lot of times they don't looklike metal nuts and bolts. They

(35:21):
look more like living beings. Yeah, and I don't know how much of
that is public. I knew earlyon when the UFO stuff started to be
mainstream, when the China UFO,you know, the China balloons and all
that was, they were cutting thenews was covering. When the news is

(35:42):
covering, you know something's going on. They just gonna they're not gonna speak
on anything unless they can spend thenarrative to the mass of the population,
you know, in a way that'sgoing to benefit them. Now, that's
gonna benefit the people, but it'sgonna benefit them, and so once they
started talking about it, we werelike excited because we'd like been into this
for a minute, you know,had our own experiences. We want,

(36:05):
you know, a higher up tosay something they're not once you know that.
But there was some of these briefingsthat certain senators and stuff were a
part of, and they came outkind of like shocked, and I knew,
like I knew what was talked aboutbecause the guy come out shocked and
they're like, senator, what youknow, what can you tell us about

(36:27):
UFOs? And one from like eachyou know, district or whatever, and
they're like, just make sure lockyour doors. Lock your doors. That's
what he said. The old mancome out saying lock you lock your doors.
And he was hip. So it'slike, hold on. They debriefed
him on something that's scared him andhe doesn't maybe told him not to talk
about it or doesn't know how totalk about it or what. But it

(36:52):
it's all of the nuts and boltsstuff started being mainstream. You know,
the footage from two thousand and fourthat they released of the tic tac ufo,
Yeah, you know, and allthat's you see how fast that things
travels. Man, this stuff thatthat we know exists out there, you
could not track it on a radar, right that one is it like disappears

(37:14):
up there? It is, wegot it. It went from here to
here like in soul respective you wouldnot be able to the thing could like
it travels faster than light, thanthought, and it's insane. Your mind
can't even comprehend how fast it travels, which is what blows my mind away.
Yeah, because you think about howfast a plane travels, like super

(37:36):
fast because it has to because it'sso heavy and to keep the velocity to
keep it airborne, it has totravel so fast. But when you see
one in the sky, it's goinglike really really slow because of the distance
in the perspective. So if you'reseeing something that's up that high or higher
and it's traveling so fast, youcan barely track it. Like there's no
way to even measure how fast thesethings are going. And yeah, that's

(38:02):
you know, the nuts and boltssaying of how can a human or how
can a physical entity in Maybe there'sway it's maybe there's a membrane around them,
you know, how they can travel, you know, because it's not
just one thing that's what gets usinto the conversation of UFOs being demons,
because there's certain people who it onlycan be one thing. So there's the

(38:27):
truth thing you want to know thetruth about UFOs, Well, they're demons.
They're not space travelers because there's Ihave cognitive dissidence that only lets me
go up so far, and it'sI have a firmament that doesn't allow me
to get out. So now anythingthat you see, reader hear, you're
not you know you it has tobe this one way because your belief won't

(38:50):
let you go any further than that. So what in the news, Tucker
Carlson, you know, is talkingto Joe Rogan, And it's been a
couple people have kind of let afew things slip and slide out. Who
are scientists and researchers in those thingsand you know, notable people. He's

(39:10):
a journalist, right, yeah,And he said that he has you know,
he thinks they're spiritual. There's someof the things that they're doing.
Again, how they're traveling. Howcan something travel that fast? How can
something appear in two places at once? How can something something you know morph?
And you know, all of thesethings and feats that they're doing,

(39:34):
and all of these other reasons thathe has, and he's like, they're
spiritual and in his opinion, theydomonic in nature. Just whatever reasoning that
he has behind that or or whatever. But you don't hear people talk about
what we've been talking about, thatthey what if they're angelic in nature,

(39:58):
if they can be, if theycould be demons, can't they be angels?
Well, if the war is notagainst flesh and blood, it's in
the heavenly realms, it's in thespirit realm. Who are they warring against.
It's not all angelic that's out there. There could be both. It
could be angels and demons out there, right, Yeah, And that's what

(40:21):
you know when it comes to thedemon things. It's so weird because they
think the fallen angels, the fallenangels did something. You call them fallen
angels for a reason because they fell, They were kicked out of the heavens,
they were banned. Don't come backhere again until you learn your lesson.
You're too wicked. You cannot beup here trying to usurp authority.

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And you can't be up here,so you are cast to the earth as
lightning, to the earth, andso you fell. So fallen angels fell,
they were kicked out of the heavens. So when you see something flying
around the heavens, the what isit the word shamayim, which is the

(41:05):
heavens and Hebrew fallen angels fell outof the heavens, So why are they
flying around in the heavens? Sothe Bible calls the sky the heavens.
And when I don't know why,it's the first thing. When people look
up and see something flying through theheavens, their mind says demon. There's
a demon flying in the heavens.And there's maybe one scripture you know that

(41:30):
says something like that that Satan isthe prince of the air, so it
sees the air and his princes areflying around the air, and their mind
defaults to demons. So what abouttheir mind defaulting to something good or just
saying what if? Yeah, theycould be angels. Yeah, my mind

(41:50):
defaults to the good. I've onlyever felt that feeling that gets stirred up
when I see stuff like that.It's a good feeling, magical feeling.
Yeah, it's not as a fearor any kind of a like. I
know how I feel when I encounteredthe demonic and it's not that feeling,
right, Yeah, there's a differentenergy in the room. Yeah. Now,

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if you've ever been a part ofa demonic have you ever been a
part of a watching the Demonic movieon television, Yeah, you can go
to a family member's house dealing withdemons and you leave just feel you feel
it. Yeah, the atmosphere ischarged with a different energy. And then
so that's how I knew too.I was scared at first, sort of

(42:34):
having my experiences with those things inthe air. My mind was I started
researching this from the Demonic. It'sso funny. I've got I feel like
I got a one up as faras that goes, because I've been on
both sides, so that i canhave a contrast, right like literally with
you know, spirituality and witchcraft andstuff. We started in the dark side,
right, We started with Satanism andwitchcraft, and we started with demons

(42:58):
and to thousand we dedicated our lifeto Christ and renounced all of that,
and God showed us what's possible withhis kingdom, with the beauty, with
the love, and with the light. Far outweighs anything that you know's available
on the other side, and inour studies with euthology, I studied under

(43:21):
all the Christian guys first, andhowbeit that all the Christian guys all under
the consensus that their demons like handsdown, hands down, and I had
to go outside of Christianity because theyhad a It's like they had an agenda.

(43:42):
They wouldn't even like consider anything elsebecause there was cognitive dissonance that that
aliens or UFOs were demons. Therewas no considering what if, what if?
What if? They wouldn't even haveit. So that's what led me
to researchers such as Jordan Maxwell ormaybe David Ayke and Steven Greer, just
people who were having a broader conversationthat I was locked out of from Christianity,

(44:09):
from Christendom, which allowed me tohave a bigger conversation, but still
there was fear there for me togo out and eventually want to pray under
the stars and make contact and askGod to show me, God, do
you have angels out there that areflying around watching over us? Like are

(44:29):
they traveling through the stars or throughportals in the heavens or like and if
so, can I see one?And it was the feeling I was hesitant,
scared because you could get abducted,you could be asking for a demon
to come get you. That wasalways in the back of my head.
Probably somewhat still is, just becausethat's how programming works. You don't forget

(44:51):
about those movies you watched. Butthen when you ask, and the Bible
says that if you believe, youwill receive anything you asked for in prayer.
And God said, who among youif you ask your father for bread,
he would give you a stone.That's that's the scripture. I hung
on, yeah, because I had, like, you know, remember Joey

(45:13):
Amaker for what he told me.He was like, hey man, because
I'm I didn't have nobody to talkto, and I said, hey man,
I'm going out like trying to makecontact. Man. He's like,
hey man, be careful. Hewas doing that was like wanting me of
like demon stuff. And I thoughthe would be one to say, you
know, like encourage it or whatever. He was like the Christian came out
of him and he didn't consider himselfa Christian, you know, He's like,

(45:35):
hey man, be careful, couldbe could be a demon. Man.
You don't want to just just usecaution and that's what people say when
they don't know, and they're scaredtoo. But there's a reason we're all
scared, because somebody taught us tobe. But you know, when I
started seeing them, the feeling ofawe and wonder and inspiration that is imparted

(45:57):
by through a sighting, by saying, how are you up there? God?
If are the angels are up there? If the Malachem, the Elohim,
if the ones who watch over usand protect us, if they're whoever
has our greatest good in mind?Father, If they're up there, can
I see them? And then allof a sudden they light up and shoot
across the sky and do stuff likecome on that. The feeling that's imparted,

(46:22):
the atmosphere is charged. It changes. You feel like a little kid
again. You feel like a kidon Christmas morning. Yeah, what if
you could feel like that every day? You know, yes, you can,
right, Yeah, it's awesome andit was for me. It was
you know, it's been years now, going out a lot a lot of

(46:44):
hours in the darkness under the moon, looking into the sky, looking for
lights and stuff. And then Iremember telling you about it this years ago,
telling you, and I was kindof scared to tell you because it's
silly, like I'm seeing these things, you know, they come to me
or whatever. And we go outsideand and I raised my hands and I

(47:09):
pray and I ask for God toshow us and to show you. And
I remember you saw like a littleblink, or at least you said you
did. Yeah, like, oh, I think I saw one. It
was just like the little spot,you know, the little out the corner
of your eye, you see onelight up. You're like, oh,
I saw one as soon as youas soon as you prayed. And I
was like, okay, it waslike just enough for the time. But

(47:30):
it was years ago. But thenrecently after your you know, double dip
in the awakening and going deeper.We were just laying in the backyard on
a cool, cool December January nightsomething like that. I think it's January.
You want to you want to sharethat like from your it was awesome.

(47:50):
So we were we were really justlike blissed out. I was still
super high on the Holy Spirit frommy transformation, my healing, and I
still am, but like we werejust laying out in the cool in the
dark, looking at the stars,and I think we were talking about experiences

(48:13):
and seeing stuff, and I waslike, well, let's just try to
manifest one now, Let's see ifwe can make it happen. And so
we stirred up our emotion. Wewere so grateful and showing gratitude and just
prayed to God that if our angelsand our helpers are up there, if
he would allow us to see them, we would be totally grateful. And

(48:35):
if not, we're still totally grateful. Like just staying in that mindset of
gratitude. And you know, Idon't need it, I don't need a
sign to believe, but it wouldbe really cool if you could show us
if they're up there. And wejust started praying and kind of praying in
tongues, and we picked where wewanted to. Yeah, we picked where

(48:57):
we wanted it, and we pickednear, which is a star in the
Orion constellation. And so we juststarted focusing our minds and our eyes towards
that area and praying and staying inthat attitude of gratitude. And right above
the star that we named and pickedout two bright lights. They just it

(49:22):
powered up out of nowhere and theywere together together, right beside each other.
They powered up. They traveled downto regale the star that we named
and they faded away, like itwasn't like a shooting star. I don't
know how to describe it other thanthe way I just did, but that
it was an incredible manifestation that wejust we prayed and opened our hearts and

(49:51):
it happened. We saw it.It was and we were there together.
So that was cool too that itwas not like, oh, I think
I'm making things up. I thinkI'm going crazy, because we both saw
the exact same thing happened at theexact same time, and it was just
an incredible experience that we shared andreally uplifting and increase the gratitude, increase

(50:15):
the feelings of pleasantness. Yeah,no, it was No, that was
a cool experience. And it wascool because like that was like one of
the first big ones that I hadwas years ago driving the truck and I
would try to hurry up and getmy truck loaded for work early and leave

(50:39):
the warehouse. Like I think oneday I left the warehouse at like three
thirty am and then it thinks aboutan hour to get to Pensacola when I
was going east, and so Istopped at the there's a there's a hill
right there in Milton, right overthe water with this gas station and you

(51:00):
can overlook the lake there and stuff, and it's dark. There wasn't open
yet, so I'd get there andthere was nobody there, and I'm just
out and there's something about it withthe cool the coolness of the of the
day or the coolness of the nightthat just adds this extra layer, you
know, of just awesomeness. Andthe wind was blowing, it was cool,

(51:21):
and I was just looking up andpraying and naming all the constellations that
I that I knew, because I'mlike trying to learn the stars and the
planets and constellations. Still am butI look at Ryan. It's Beetlejuice.
There's Mars. There's Vega, there'sthe Pleiades. There's that, you know,
and there's little things that I know. And I'm just worshiping God,

(51:43):
like talking to God. I hadjust wrote the song Awesome God, me
and Anthony Cummins, and I wassinging it, singing it to the Lord
as I'm naming it. My Godis in Awesome God. WHOA. I'm
just You're in some God, welift you up you're in some god,
we lift you, we lift youup. And I'm just looking on wonder
like a little kid, expecting tosee and then I look up at Orion

(52:07):
and then I look away and Orionwas like directly above my head, and
I look at it, I lookaway, and then I see Orion here.
I was like, hold on,it's like two Orion's in the sky.
What the heck. And as soonas in my mind said hold on,
wait a minute, what the heck, I turned and I looked back
at the other Orion, and onewas Orion and one wasn't. One had

(52:30):
two other stars like lined up withOrion's belt, but just below it,
so they were on both sides ofRegal, and they were like stationary.
I said, that's not Orian,because that is, And all of a
sudden, they lit up even brighterthe moment I gave the acknowledgement like hey

(52:51):
something, it got really big bright, powered up, and then just took
off, flying real slow into Orion, kind of zagging just a little little
bit, and I'm like, ohmy god, what the what the heck?
This is amazing. I'm trying tolike fumble from my phone. I'm
trying to film it and then I'mlooking away and then it's gone. As

(53:13):
soon as it starts, it's over, you know. But I thought it
was so cool because that was likeone of my first like really awesome encounters.
And then how it was like thesame space and it was two lights
that were positioned with regal or rigl or whatever that that star and how

(53:35):
because I think I had I thinkI mentioned to you about it, like
it's something about like the you like, we get to charge the atmosphere with
these stories. So maybe people listeningright now they're like, you know,
some people are that may may beskeptic and like, oh he's lying,
man, it could have been thiscool. But other people are like,
oh man, I want to seethat. I want to see that.

(53:57):
That'd be amazing or or they orthey have seen it or something similar.
So it's light in a different fire. So the atmosphere like in them and
around them, is being charged byhearing a story and reliving it or hearing
it for the first time and buildingexpectation and stuff. So we were doing
that as I was like sharing withyou, like I remember my first time,

(54:20):
my first looking up at the star, and you're like, let's try
to do it again. Yeah,and I was like, okay, where
do you want to focus? Becausethere was other stars that even call out
to us and stuff. It's different. You know your zodiac sign, you
know, you know, why don'twe look there? Because maybe that's where
you should look. If that's whereyou're from, maybe you should look.
But it was you said, let'sfocus here, and we did, and

(54:43):
we asked from that place and itflew in. It was incredible, and
I might not believe it if Ididn't experience it. I know, Yeah,
it's hard to believe. You probablyshouldn't do. All of this stuff's
hard to believe. And and evenyou know seeing it, seeing isn't even
believing because you're because you want to. You want to go through and say,

(55:07):
okay, what could what could havethat been? You want to count
out like everything first. I alwayssay that as a skeptic. I'm a
skeptic, but I've got all thestories. Isn't that funny? It's like,
okay, it's everything, it's everythinga UFO. I'm trying to I'm
trying to disprove myself so that Iknow that what I'm encountering is legit.

(55:30):
It's not my truth, my truthbecause we because you could totally apply it.
Yeah, you can apply my truth. I saw UFO. That was
a satellite, Dude, that wasstarlink. It was Starlink. Nope,
it was the UFO. God,you know. So that's how your truth
works. But I want to Iwant to. I want to be sure
because I don't want to be outhere, you know, signaling satellites and

(55:52):
thinking I had a you know,an encounter or saw the real thing.
And if I think, if youkeep that hard work, that you are
a skeptic just because you want toencounter or you want to know for sure
that you're invited into the real becauseyou get past this layer of fake because
you're like, oh, I didn'tsee it. I'm gone. We're only

(56:15):
down here thirty minutes. What doyou mean you're gone? Yeah? I
thought you really wanted to see itgoes back to you don't want it bad
enough. I do want to seewhat I got it. I need to
go to bed. You don't wantto see. We're not from the same
place like I'm from the place wherewe grew up. We knew crackheads.
What were they willing to do toget the thing? They wanted. Yeah,

(56:36):
they're the all night adventure trying toscore drugs. Like, hold on,
I'm on an all night adventure tryingto say hello to the lights in
the sky. How bad do youwant it? You don't want it bad
enough? Yep, that's a crazyanalogy, but it fits like who like,
who's hungry for the thing? Howbad do you want it? You

(56:57):
don't want it? Yeah, theywant it. I wanted. I wanted
it, and I still want itbecause just as much as I stayed out
there, you know, at inthe night finding anomalies and things, we
started going out there seeing stuff inthe day. So now we're just that
whole thing I was locked out ofin my mind that you can see them.

(57:20):
You can only see them at nightbecause the lights you see them travel
as lights. That was your truth? Was it the truth? Nope,
there's my truth. Yeah, andit was valid. I don't There wasn't
anywhere else that I could go.I couldn't even go to the Bible and
get that truth because my mind wasn'topen to it. I had a firmament

(57:40):
that kept me from going beyond nighttime craft. So you can't see this
stuff at during the day until tillyou do you can. Yeah, So
what unlocked it for you where youwere able to see things during the day,
Like, what changed for you?I mean I had seen them during

(58:06):
the day over the years, eventually, but it was a little bit more.
I felt like it was rare.Oh I've had my first day time.
So I have had experiences just drivingthe truck and gazing into the sky
and stuff during the day. Butwhat really changed it was like how dominant
they are or how prevalent they are. Being able to see them, you

(58:28):
know, during the day was theexperience that had I know it's been two
years ago now. Well, wewere pumping gas at the gas station and
I just happened to be pumping gasand We're parked under the awning and the
sun was hid like just barely becauseof the awning, and maybe I hit

(58:50):
it just a little bit to keepthe sun from reflecting on it. As
I'm pumping gas on a warm day, and as I look up at the
sun because I'm always looking, likeI always got one eye looking at the
sky, and I saw I sawlike this shooting like UFO, like same
things you said at night, justreal fast. But during the day,

(59:14):
Oh wow, there was one,Wow, it's cool, it's awesome,
Thank you lord. I'm just kindof still looking, and then another one
oh two wow, you know whenyou see two, maybe there's three.
And so I stick my head outand look. And then I started seeing
them like everywhere and like flying allaround the sun like this crazy anomaly.

(59:40):
And started seeing them everywhere and differentkinds and traveling at different speeds and stuff.
And I'm like, oh my god, I saw yelling at you.
I was like aaric, come seecome here used in the passenger see.
I was like, cod see theseUFOs. And you came came out and
you looked and you looked up andyou saw something and saw all kind of

(01:00:01):
weird things bugs whatever they are.I call them whispys now. But I
couldn't see past them then, likeI only saw it looked like dust or
like little dandelion fluffs or something comingoff the roof of the gas station or
a little higher like they were lowerdown. But there were lots of them.

(01:00:21):
Yeah, I don't know. Icouldn't look past them. I was
like, are you talking about that? Are you talking about the the puffs
like the dust stuff. You're like, no, no, look higher,
and I never could see them thatday. Yeah, well that was like
the first time and we saw thatand I'm like, what is it?
And then we ended up going home. I spent the rest of the day

(01:00:43):
ye filming and getting binoculars and justseeing how I can see them and see
what they were, and like therewere stuff parked like right next to the
sun so hard to see, likeyou had to be able to hide the
sun to be able to see nextto the sun without the corona of the
sun damaging your eyes with binoculars orjust being able to see it. And

(01:01:07):
so filming it into going back dissectingthe footage and slowing it down and then
having my mind blowing, like whatthe heck like for me? That day
was so you know monumental that Ithought it was gonna be all over the
news, Like I thought all overthere was gonna be people reporting on this

(01:01:30):
these you know UFOs or whatever somethingmajor, and then nothing, nothing about
it. So you know, Istarted getting stuff like on camera and then
being able to see other kind ofanomalies as you you know, turned the
different gradients and the gamma down onthe camera and how it revealed other things

(01:01:51):
that were traveling and stationary and allkinds of stuff going on that if you
would look at it differently, ifyou would look deeper or or you could
see into the light, you couldsee more. So that's what changed it
for me, you know, ofbeing like every day because the next day
I'm like going out. Eventually Ijust had too much footage. But it's

(01:02:12):
then experimenting with how do you getbetter footage? And you know, so
now we have a I'm working ona course on how to how to do
this. That's it's almost done.Yeah, it's almost done. I just
need to finish it up. I'mjust I'm paying attention to too many details
to finish it up, and Ijust need to go ahead and put it
out as it is and then maybeadd to it because I've got like a

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step by step process on how tofilm, how to use your cell phone,
and then how to put it intothe computer editing programs, and then
what do you do once you getin there? And that's one of the
things where we're talking about how fastthese things travel. It's mind blowing.
Yeah, and then you'll see likea bigger blob, like a dark blob,

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come and eat the ones that you'rewatching, and like there's so much
crazy stuff you can see if youjust follow. Like your little tutorial is
so helpful because like you know allabout computers and I know a little bit,
but I wouldn't know enough to howto do that with somebody helping me.
And it's hard for me because Ihad to, like, you know,
it's hard for me to dumb allof this down, you know.

(01:03:19):
And uh it's like, you know, plug your USB into the into the
computer. Now go to this folderand drag. But it's really just documenting,
like just slow down. Some peopledon't know exactly it has to be
done. Yeah, and it's adisservice not to do it. But I
mean, ever since like uploading thosefirst videos, the response has been insane.

(01:03:43):
The response has been amazing. Yeah, Like people who following my work
and stuff are like they're going outdoing it. Yeah, and they're just
some of the funny video that liketheir commentary is funny. Yeah. Oh
shit, you sec Oh shit,I see him, man, you were
right, was right Like on camera. I'm like I need to say this
because this is a great promo forthe course. You were right. Man.

(01:04:06):
I see them and it's like gettingthem on camera and stuff, and
then like you know, positioning peoplein different places and other people with different
cameras and different frame rates. Sonow when the government's releasing their UFO nuts
and bolts, yes they're nuts andbolts. No, you see, it's
too prevalent, and it's too prevalentto have to fake anything. Yea,

(01:04:30):
too just so much real out thereand just go in as a skeptic,
like go in as like thinking thatthat it could be dust or bugs,
you know, until you see likesomething that does something that a dust particle
nor a bug does, and writeit off because that's how we get to

(01:04:51):
the truth. That's the process ofelimination that you saw an angel, you
saw the b that hold this spacetime continuum together. They're working while you
sleep so that you can breathe cleanair. Like we don't know the implications

(01:05:11):
of all of it to think that, you know, any of us have
it all figured out. We're onlyprivy to so much. And there's a
lot of things going on, andthe government does have their hand in on
a bunch of the stuff, especiallyhiding it, oh yeah, especially covering
it up. It's like clockwork almostlike a profit can go out and say
in ten minutes the sky will bedark, and then like clockwork, all

(01:05:36):
of them, even the day thatwe like went out that night and we
manifested and showed gratitude and saw thosetwo angels. I think they're for sure
angels for sure. Right after that, like three or four like planes and
helicopters, they all were coming outof the woodwork. I remember that because

(01:05:57):
we've been in not long after that, because it was absurd how many helicopters
and planes came out right after thathappened. Now we've had encounters with the
helicopters and crazy stuff like I.You know, they try to cover it
up and a lot of times theytalk about black helicopters showing up to do

(01:06:18):
like you know, to intimidate people. But you know my story, not
many people do. But I had, you know, we were camping,
me and two friends who we wentout to camp to make contact, to
go out and make contact, andwe documented the whole thing. And we
had a friend there who had neverseen and he wanted to And so we

(01:06:39):
go camping close to the Indian landand at More, Alabama, and went
with intention and fasting and stuff.And then we're playing music, playing jimbei
and guitar and singing and just likemeditating, doing all just trying to connect.

(01:07:00):
We don't know how to connect.We're just trying and praying and stuff.
And then all of a sudden,within like an hour, I think
I forgot how many we counted,but I think it was like twenty four
or something that we saw just likeall like going the same direction for like
an hour straight, just this amazingsighting for an hour straight, and then
it was cut off no more afterthat, And we woke up the next

(01:07:26):
morning while camping to a helicopter hoveringdirectly above us right after sunrise, and
it was down low to the ground, something out of a movie, where
like the you could feel the windfrom the propellers in our tent was like
blowing, and there was a bargoing across the front and the guy was

(01:07:51):
spraying stuff on us. He wasspraying like chemical on us, laughing,
and we're looking at him like,hey, what's going on? What the
hell man? He's like laughing atus and spraying us with chemical We're like,
what the hell is going on.We're like, you could smell it
in the air, It's like chemicalswhat the So we're like, man,

(01:08:13):
we hurt and get our stuff andget it in the car without trying to
breathe it as much as we could, fast as we could, just to
roll our stuff up, jump inthe car and take off. And the
guy was going back and forth,like from us, and he'd go to
another spot and like dump out abunch of fluid and then he'd come back
to us and turn the bar onand circle right above us and spray us.

(01:08:36):
Like, what the hell is this? So I don't know what connection
you mind? Just wanders I can'tsay for sure. Yeah, they knew
that we were summoning UFOs and weopened the portal and they wanted to see
who did I'd have no idea whatwas going on. Some crazy person who
works for the county and sprays youknow, duster over. Well, this

(01:09:01):
was a campsite. It was verystrange. But yeah, a lot of
people talk about intimidation and stuff likethat that happens. I know what's his
name, Christopher, the UFO ofGod guy. He talks about them showing
up and so many more people,James Gill and anybody who's like gone out

(01:09:23):
and be able to do the spiritualwork to where like you, you start
attracting them, and like we talkabout like portals opening up in the sky
and stuff like that, But whatif you are the portal and what if
you are the one who believes itjust enough and ask for help and want
to know that our angels are outthere, that we're gonna be okay,

(01:09:44):
you know those kind of things.And then they start popping in because you
called upon them and you asked them. And I can give you many Bible
scriptures and stories about how you knowthey are there. You just can't see
them until you can until they wantyou to see them, or they allow
you to see because you want to. Yeah, I remember the day I
was able to see the ones inthe daytime, like you were talking about.

(01:10:05):
Was at work at the barn,and it was about the eleven o'clock
hour and I we have a rampwhere people, the patients go up to
mount the horse. It's a rampso they can be up higher because they're
little kids and they can get onthe horse. But I was sitting on
the ramp and I was having mylunch. I was just looking at the
sky and we have that awning thatlike you said, the awning just barely

(01:10:28):
blocked the sun, and I startedseeing them. Yeah. Now all the
dust and the whispy stuff was theretoo, but I could see. I
could see up high day, Icould see up high by the sun.
I was like, Oh, that'sweird. And then, like you said,
it was one, two, three, and then I started seeing shapes
that looked like a bird flapping itswings. Yeah, right up by the

(01:10:49):
sun, but way up high,coming out from the sun. And I
was like, holy crap. AndI was sitting next to a co worker.
I was like, do you seethis? Are you seeing this right
now? And they're like what what? And I kind of said, the
block the sun and look and seeif you see it. They're like,
yeah, what is that? Andthen everyone else came and started looking.
And I think there were two peoplethat couldn't see it, but everyone else

(01:11:12):
could. And they started like googlingon their phones news stories and same thing.
Yeah, nothing, a big anomaly. And one lady was like,
well, maybe it's space garbage,just like I don't think that's space garbage.
Yeah. You know, I've beenyou know, scouring the internet over
the years. I've seen some thereare convincing videos out that have been out
for a long time. And evenwhen the you know, the cameras weren't

(01:11:34):
as good that you know, youcould see you know, shots from space
or at least higher altitude. BecauseI know my Space friends are tuning out
there is no space. Somebody justpunched their their their phone, I think,
or their there's no space. Itold you, God, you're so
stupid. Space is real. Idon't know. Space is pretty cool,

(01:11:56):
I guess, but I've seen footageof up there from NASA leaked footage that's
like you're not supposed to see andand so you kind of know what to
expect when looking and uh and thenand then back in the day too,
I ran across videos of people tellingyou how to block the sun and see

(01:12:18):
like I heard about this in liketwo thousand and seven or whatever, two
thousand and eight and h but I'vetried it. I remember trying it too,
but nothing. I don't see anything. I don't know where to look.
And he's like, you just wantto block I almost thought he was
trolling, Like the videos is likethis is t or a crazy person.

(01:12:38):
Yeah you know, right, youknow, yeah, because some comments do
say dust right there, there arethose or bugs, and maybe there are
there, but I would say I'vegot a little blog I was working on
about what is dust because I'm sayingthat's just dust. There's no just what

(01:13:00):
is just dust? Because whatever dustis, serpents eat was cursed to eat
that. Whoever the serpent is ofthe Bible, he was cursed that he
would eat dust. He was cursedthat he would go onto his belly and
dust would be his food and hewould eat it. So there's no just,
Okay, what is he eating?And so what is dust? So
it's a deeper conversation there when youknow, I've got a whole thing on

(01:13:25):
it. When NASA shared some UFOstuff or some like anomalies close to the
sun and called it dust or spacedust or whatever, yeah, and it's
like they didn't lie to you.So just so you know, they didn't
lie to you, you just don'tknow what dust is. Yeah. So
but yeah, sharing it, youknow, you get the skeptics. They're
going to come out the woodworks.Yeah. I saw some people come in

(01:13:46):
and we were looking preparing for this, and I was looking through YouTube and
somebody had said, you say,all the time, you have all this
footage and all this stuff stored upand all these videos and you see them
every day, and how come youhaven't shared it? How come we're not
seeing it? How come you can'tprove it? And it's like we're not
just putting it out there Pearls beforeswan all over Facebook, and because too,

(01:14:11):
like it is Pearls before Swin,people will get on there and say
that's just dust, or that's this, or that you edited it. You're
making this up, like well,it's not going to be real to you
unless it is. I know.So that's the thing you can't. Yeah,
it's not to put it out there. And I think God honors that

(01:14:31):
is the fact that you're not puttingout there to try to convince somebody because
or look at me, I'm solike spiritual, I could summon no,
because I've angels showed people immediately thatthey can. They're like I want them
to do it because they have They'reconnected to different angles exactly, they're connected
to different angels and we come together, you know, and then now we're

(01:14:51):
walking with the one hundred and fortyfour. You know, from each tribe
they have different reasons, different functions, but you know, you do get
those those comments or whatever, butthose are nothing. The comments, those
comments help the algorithms. The amazingcomments and why I release them released that

(01:15:11):
footage is the ones that are likepeople are like, oh my god,
I'm in tears right now watching thisfootage, and the awe and wonder that
it's like imparted to us, youknow, while we're having the sighting and
we just so happened to be ableto film something or whatever. People can
feel it translates sometimes and like theMarcaba video got over five hundred and fifty

(01:15:38):
thousand views on YouTube. Of yeah, their skeptics, but they helped the
algorithms for the real people who neededto see it to see it. The
people who know that they're real blessed. Blessed are they that believe and have
not seen so then because you believe, God honors your truth, and your

(01:15:59):
truth comes reality and you get tosee the things that you know are out
there. You know they're there.I've never seen an angel. It blows
my mind. Being a podcast hostover the years interviewing people about everything UFOs,
aliens who write books on it,researchers all of that, paranormal people
who investigate, they write books onit, and the sheer amount of number

(01:16:25):
of these people who have not seenor encountered a UFO, who are experts
but they've not seen one, andexperts on the paranormal we've not seen a
ghost or seen a spirit or anyof that stuff, and who speak on
this stuff as experts. It blowsmy mind. But for the people who

(01:16:46):
believe and could go out there andhave encounters, anybody can go out like
even the interview we just did that, the interview I did with the Raelian
dude, and like at the end, I was like, so have you
had any encoun Yeah, do theytalk to you? Sir? No,
No, I've never had one.They he said, they only talked to

(01:17:08):
Rayal. Only get your only selfoff of my podcast, sir. That's
one of the things I said.I didn't want to interview people who were
like Messiah. We talked about Messiahcomplex. Sir. You was not supposed
to drink the kool aid. Youweren't supposed to drink. You don't drunk
all the kool aid. Now youare the Messiah, you know. But

(01:17:30):
I saved I remember saving myself,like one time. Whether I was supposed
to interview this lady and then cometo find out she was like, I'm
the only one who can do allof these things. I'm okay, I'm
glad they got canceled. I'm like, I'm glad that got canceled because I
don't want to talk to those people. Yeah, And I think the reality
and like I could, I could, I can get down with it.
If they're teaching everybody like how toconnect, well, you guys are speaking

(01:17:54):
on this and this is your lifeand you've never had it blows your way
because how it is accessible, likeall of this is I mean, what
are these people going to do whenRayel dies? Do they think he's not
going to die? Probably because he'swhat like eighty now he was born in
the forties, Yeah, I rememberthat from the podcast. Yeah, forty

(01:18:15):
six. Yeah. I think theytried to, like, I think he
was drawn to the conclusion that hewas born the year that Israel became a
nation. I didn't hear him saythat, but he emphasized, you know,
he said, the Messiah is right. L It's right, l Oh,
I got it. You know.Anyway, this is if you don't

(01:18:38):
know what we're talking about, gowatch the last episode. That's a great
segue for you to go listen.I interviewed, you know, one of
the bishops or rabbis of the UFOcalled the Raelians. Yeah, and he
got me on it as a surprise, like he interviewed the guy and I
didn't see the interview, so Ikind of reacted to it a little bit.

(01:19:00):
Yeah, a little bit wild stuff. Yeah, go go watch it.
But anyway, we just wanted totalk about uphology, angels and demons
because it's always been a part ofthe conversation. Well no, no,
no, no, the demon parthas been a part of the conversation and
still is. It's the it's thesensationalism. We can get clicks, It

(01:19:24):
can get clicks, like real easywith the demons, the angels, Like
it's got to be them that likeallow you to get the clicks or something.
I don't know. Yeah, butit's something about the fear stuff,
you know. It's why a lotyou won't hear a lot of the good
stuff from any of the pastors.They if they knew it was angels,
they wouldn't even speak on it.If they know it's demons, and they

(01:19:47):
gotta warn people. I don't know. I think that's the monic. Yeah,
I think the angels will allow youto see based on your intention,
of your heart and the position ofyour hard to No, I do because
there have been times we tried tosummon them for other people and it didn't
work. And it's like, Iknow my heart was right, but yeah,

(01:20:08):
you don't know about other people.They might be their intentions going until
later. Yeah, they're not supposedto see. It's very strange. But
again, all of the comments thatwhen we are able to film and share
stuff, and again I will sayit again, I've got tons of footage
and the goal was to have thiscourse already out and to roll it out

(01:20:30):
that you see the footage and thenyou want to check out the course because
everybody's dming me, how do youfilm it? How do I do it?
And they're sending me their footage andthey got some great stuff. I
don't want to teach people how todo it and also give something to our
members, you know, who arepart of the community, you know,
for a walkthrough on how to doit. And so that's why I was
kind of holding off on just releasingfootage. Yeah, because I got so

(01:20:54):
so much. But again the commentsthat you know, the people that are
in tears. I guess if it'sone or two. You got two comments
where these ladies were touched deeply orno, no, no, there's a
lot with that start off. I'min tears right now. Oh my God,
I feel the Holy Spirit while you'respeaking. Oh my, you know,

(01:21:14):
and they're really like God is usingthis pretty crappy cell phone footage,
you know. Yeah, And becauseit's deeper than that, it is it's
when the outside reflects the inside.Yeah, because you know deep down within
you that that we have friends inhigh places and that we all are connected.
And then when you see it,when what's outside of you bears witness,

(01:21:38):
what is inside of you connects withyour faith that the the feelings that
are birth within you are godly,amazing, beautiful, It bears beautiful fruit.
A lot of people of those peopleeven that said they'd never encountered an
angel, They probably have, theyprobably just didn't recognize it. And that's
what we really want to show.That's what we really want to teach because

(01:22:00):
they're they're all out there and uh, and there's levels to it, but
you won't and you don't really getaccess until you honor all the angels and
learn to honor you know, theirmessage, because the word angel just means
a messenger, a ma loch,a messenger, and they bring messages there.

(01:22:21):
There are their presence, their jobtitle, what they do. All
of that tells you. Who tellsyou their name, because you'll be able
to find their name based on whatthey do. It's in their DNA.
And once you're able to honor allthe messengers from every realm, whether they
are here in the physical or arethey are etheric and have become light and

(01:22:45):
they're and they're brighter than the sunthat's out there, like our light.
That's why most of us can't seethem until our eyes are able to behold
and take in much light or youlearn, you learn how to see them.
So it's because people ask, youknow, like remember somebody said,
do y'all ever go out and prayanymore without the camera, just because we

(01:23:09):
were like talking about it so much, like and uh, it's like yeah,
like just as much, you know, and it was a thing where
like it had we had to belike allowed to do it. Oh yeah,
because the moment, like you said, you pull out a cell phone.
There's nothing I felt for the longesttime, I wouldn't do it because
it's so special to me. AndI remembered of me having my first encounter

(01:23:31):
and fumbling with the phone to hurryup and film it, and then the
experience is over and you missed itbecause you wanted to. Well, I
used to say kiss and tell,like, oh, y'all want to show
everybody, No, this is yourencounter. Instead of you listening to the
information and move into the heart space, you run and go grab a cell
phone. So I made sure thatthe years you know of this work was

(01:23:55):
done without that. And it's justrecent that we can pull our phones and
just ask for a sighting or startpraying and you'll find out one thing about
the bugs and stuff like that andor what it is. Go out there
and those of you who are connectedin the spirit and film and then start
praying while you're filming, and Iguarantee you'll see an increase. You'll see

(01:24:18):
different types of beings and craft startshowing up and coming on camera, and
then all it they'll start moving faster. It is insane. Leave so start
blowing in a circle and coming down. The birds start acting crazy. Yeah,
that's one of the weirdest things tothe birds because we pay attention to

(01:24:38):
the birds and their activity and themflying back and forth when we're connecting and
showing us word a look. Itis insane. It is a world that
you have to be introduced in toand and step into. Really like it's
an initiation that we're all like inthat school, but we're all in different

(01:25:00):
phases. Once you can see Godand see Jesus, like we've been talking
about since the beginning with fumigation andthe angelic, you're not allowed to see
them, you know, in thephysical or in the sky if you're if
you've been disrespecting the homeless dude that'san angel who's been at the same corner
for the past seven years, thatyou won't give them five dollars to get

(01:25:21):
a beer because you're like, he'sjust gonna buy a beer with it.
It's cool, that's the same thingyou were going to buy it with it.
Let him have it. Yeah,you know, while you're judging this
guy, like, start honoring people, and start honoring the animals and start
honoring everything, and then you're initiatedand grafted into a world within a world
that is mind blowing every day.It's incredible. They all have their their

(01:25:45):
order to their divine order and thenymphs and they have different names. Yeah,
yeah, I mean it's in fairiesand angels and all them that take
care of the animals. I meanthere's reasons that they don't worry about anything
because they know they're superiors have gotthem. The nature spirits are going to

(01:26:06):
take care of them and make surethey have seed to eat and a place
to nest. And yeah, ifthey can get it, we got to
learn from them and learn that oursuperiors have got us, that it's abundance
that you don't have to worry.It really helped me with you know,
conspiracies and into the world. Andthey're like, watch the animals. What

(01:26:27):
are the animals doing? Because they'llfilm the animals like going in circles and
stuff. The animals are getting intune with the energy. Ye, so
that y'all can't take their energy they'rebuilding because like because I watched the animals
and the birds ain't freaking out.The birds are still on Like if they're
not freaking out, I don't wantto freak out. Jesus is like listen,
look at the look at the lilies, look at the birds. Ask
them what do they say, andthey can teach you and impart a lot

(01:26:53):
on what the freak out about andwhat not to enlest genealogies and fables and
those things like and and maybe peoplethink some of the stuff is that until
you experience it, Like you mentionednyphs and fairies or whatever, that's a
myth and a fable until they've encounteredGod or the Angelic in the form of

(01:27:15):
tiny lights that come out of thetop of trees and look like fairies and
come down and go back into it. It's all fake and it's all imagination
until it's not the nyphs, untilyou read read the scriptures and you read
that there's a town called Nyphis orwhatever, and you're like, what does

(01:27:39):
that word mean? And you lookit up and you're like, hold,
well, maybe nyphs are real.And you let that sink in from your
head down to your heart. Iwould love it if nyphs are real.
Would you. I've got a coupleof shrubberies I would like you to push
to the side, and there's anip hiding in this rubbery. It's really

(01:28:02):
goose. Goose eats the shrubbery sowe can find the nymphs, right,
No, it's a yeah, it'sfun. Yeah, every everything, everything
exists. Everything is this if itdidn't exist the moment you think it it

(01:28:24):
existed, I think that that's that'show powerful we are and we don't know
it, and we just like hopethat we get to see or whatever versus
like you go out there, youbelieve it, you speak it, and
then it I don't know. Idon't know the science, but it's fun
experiencing the spirituality behind it because theydo go hand in hand. Yeah,

(01:28:45):
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maybe and see if we can seesome entities in the sky. Yeah,

(01:30:04):
it's so hard to like, youknow, have your one thing. What
do you do? We just showup and we just do sound healing,
No like we did. We're justgonna show. It's gonna be a CE
five. We're gonna go out underthe stars and we're gonna ask God to
allow us to see our angels andwe're gonna say hello. And if we

(01:30:26):
all are in one accord and wewant it, many times it happens.
And if not, we've got nightvision goggles that allow you to see beyond
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(01:30:53):
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but in the physical. Yeah,it's fun, that's what. That's where
these retreats really are amazing. Ilove being a part of it, being

(01:31:40):
able to hug people and all thatcool stuff. Is that it what we're
doing. I hope you guys enjoyedthese stories. I hope your faith is
built and I hope that you're walkingin honor. And if you are,
man maybe comment some of your storiesbelow. I love to hear people's like

(01:32:00):
experiences, whether they came from this, you know, this podcast, which
there's so many because it like burstssomething in them. They're like, oh
wow, I can try that,and then they do it, and now
they're like excelling past our experiences becausethat's their thing, you know, or
stuff you've had in the past.Like, we get so many messages,
but I love I love hearing them, so make sure you post those in

(01:32:23):
the comments below let us know.Yeah. And if this like really stirred
up emotion in you, and itstirred up your faith and your your gratitude
and your desire, go out,go out and ask Go out right now,
if you're able and block the sunwith just the edge of a building
or a poll or something, justblock the sun and look and see what

(01:32:44):
you see. And if it's nighttime, go out and look at the sky.
Pray ask God. Yeah, it'sit's so prevalent that you don't even
have to do any of that.It's everywhere you look, and it's wherever
the sun, it's wherever the lightis or you know, and the light
is within you. So whatever yousee outside of you, and it's telepathic
communication stuff. It continues after asighting, so it's not just about seeing.

(01:33:09):
It's about like what is the transformation, Like what is the encounter.
That's how you know you're in relationshipbecause you saw them, but then you
really see them when you get themessage. Because angels aren't just they don't
just exist for you to see them. There is impartation by seeing seeing them.
That's why you don't need to seethem. Many people don't need to
or they can their eyes are callous. The majority of us we're learning to

(01:33:33):
see. We're becoming lighter, we'regetting more light in us, and we're
tapping into what people call the fourthdimension. The veil is coming down.
We know that with the evil we'vebeen seeing that that's low hanging fruit.
How about the good that's happening inthe fourth dimension. That's where we come
in. So yeah, there's podcasteverywhere about ufoses, demons and blah blah

(01:33:57):
blah blah. Okay, what aboutthe angels? What about the fairies?
And I want their messages? Yeah? So yeah, with that, we're
gonna say peace and shalom. Thanksfor hanging out with us. If you
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the good stuff check out sear dotSchool. Check out our online community and

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that's where we'll be hanging out twicea week. We've got a session tonight.
This is what we do with ourfolks. Folks all around, all
around the world. We can't say. You can't say around. We got
folks all around the globe. Ican't say that because the Earth is not

(01:34:42):
round. It is flat, andit's not a globe. It's a flat
earth with a dome. I learnedone day. That's not Listen, hey,
debate me. What's that I gotto do with the price of rice
in China? For some people itdoes. It's stair awakening. Yeah,

(01:35:05):
it is their UFOs or demons.It's stair awakening to the UFOs or demons.
Flat Earth. Listen, interdimensional doesn'tmean demon. How about that.
There you go, You're ready tohave that conversation tomorrow. I'm the truth
to the podcast. Shalo on everybody,

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