End Times Alien Invasion: Are We Being Deceived?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Aliens or demons. Alien aliens alien demon alien story becomes
a very convenient misdirection.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Because you don't know what true angels and demons look like,
because you never had that experience. God create aliens, many
of them were demon possessed.

Speaker 3 (00:15):
Where do demons come from?

Speaker 1 (00:16):
If there are alien races that could be millions or
billions of years older than us on the evolutionary scale.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
Do aliens exist?

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Of course they do. Yeah, it's not a maybe.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
The idea of aliens is demon made to deceive people
from finding the real truth.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
Welcome to the Truth Seeker and Aaron Podcast. I'm your
host Truth Seeker. What's going on everybody?

Speaker 1 (00:41):
And I'm your host Aeronah.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
We're here for another episode, another live stream. We're gonna
have fun. We're gonna be talking about our UFOs. Are
aliens demons?

Speaker 1 (00:59):
Very high lead, debatable topic, a lot of hot of
hot's the right word, a lot of things in the news,
in the media and social media about it right now
in recent months. Yeah, so we're going to talk about
our aliens, demons. Could they be angels? Are they little

(01:20):
green men? Are they nuts and bolts? Ships? Are they
light beings? And we don't often take hard stances on anything,
so maybe it could be a little piece of several
different things could be the truth. The truth usually lies
somewhere in the middle, right, That's what we were talking
about yesterday on the live stream. Yeah, the narrow path,

(01:42):
the middle road.

Speaker 3 (01:44):
Yeah, I'm having to fix something on the stream right quick.
But yeah, it's going to be a fun talk because
there's a lot of different aspects, a lot of different
places where people approach us from and for different reasons.
But you know, we're gonna we're gonna jump into the
scriptures a little bit, and uh, and maybe some ancient

(02:06):
texts one that I think a lot of people go to,
but uh, but negates some things when talking about aliens
and UFOs and if they're demons or not or whatever
is the Book of Enoch, And because the Book of
Enoch makes famous to fallen angels. Yeah, and so for

(02:26):
some reason people equate the heavenly beings and this fall
with them falling from a heavenly abode and winding up
on earth. Well maybe not on earth, because that there's
a contention there that they're in heaven, right, yeah, in
the sky. So we're gonna we're gonna get into some

(02:49):
of that because it's kind of the same word or
sky is heaven and these angels were so called kicked
out of heaven. So there's a couple I want to say,
whole in that in that thinking that it just blanketly
state that aliens are demons.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Yeah, I think so, and I've you know, when when
you hear the word alien, probably some kind of image
comes to mind, And for me, it's a little green man.
Like in the nineties, I you know, I had all
of the cool Lisa Frank and all of the other
stuff with a little green you know, oval shaped.

Speaker 3 (03:30):
Green or gray. They were green back then, green like gray.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
So like that's what I picture is like the Lisa
Frank green alien little being. But now since I've felt
like I've encountered things, supernatural things that I would call angels,
none of them have been little green men, not yet anyway,

(03:56):
So I'm curious to where maybe that comes from. Maybe
it's a different species of being. Some people think they're
interdimensional beings, that they're humans who have evolved way past
where we are now.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, I think that the flat earth stuff is being
you know, more popular now amongst Christians, where there is
no space. Space isn't real. And I'm not a flat earther.
I'm open to the idea, but I'm not open to
the idea that you can't that that there is no space.

(04:30):
I'm not open to that at all. Just from you know,
the earliest text we go back to and the mentions
of the firmament's plural, not just one. Yeah, so I
think there's a lot of reasons where like it. You know,
I've jokingly said in the past that it becomes a firmament.

(04:51):
It becomes like this ceiling that you can't go past,
is what they They equate the firmament being like a
glass dome or some kind of thick dome that we
can't get out of. They don't look at that that
there's something beyond that. Yeah, there's an ice wall or
something that's got us confined, but there's something beyond it.
The ancients spoke of that there were you know, multiple firmaments,

(05:11):
and you know, they had prayers and incantations asking the
gods to assist them and making their way and journeying
through the firmament. When they pass into the afterlife, that
the firmament opens up, uh and they go into another,
another dimension, another realm, which we would call the different heavens.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, yeah, I know, reading the levels above heaven and
the first second third heaven, like those could be different
firment firmaments.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, it's it's I would say, essentially just a something
you can't get through. It keeps something in, for sure,
but it also keeps something out. So the firmaments like
a gate, like if you was to make a garden
and you would have a gate around your garden. It's
to keep the things in there, but also to keep

(06:02):
the things out as well. And so there was multiple
layers of it in between the different dimensions. And you know,
if is it something physically physically there like flat earthers
and those guys think, I'm not sure if it was
something physical or some type of different dense atmosphere atmospheric

(06:26):
pressure that it's hard to get through different stratospheres, which
are all biblical terms, which is the interesting thing. Yeah,
the stratosphere and the atmospheres, and.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
They talk a lot about the sphere, different planes also,
and planes or flat surfaces, so I mean they can
mean a lot of different things. But I was looking
up the etymology of that word today and and it
does typically mean a flat surface, but it can also
mean a winged like.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
A planet plane or planet plane. Yeah, what they try
to they try to say plane is in planet.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
So maybe it is being flat. It looks flat when
you're walking around.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
You're on it. Yeah, where's the curve? But I want
to go to a scripture here. I'm going to pull
up a scripture because the name of this video is
what does the Bible say about it? So we're going
to get into the Bible, and we're also going to
get into a little bit of Enoch like we talked about.
So if you have your Bibles with you, go to

(07:38):
Isaiah chapter sixty verse Hey, and I was trying to
be able to show this on screen. It would have
been a lot cooler if I did.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
It's not going to work out.

Speaker 3 (07:49):
No, it's not going to work I just let's see
Isaiah sixty and eight says that's this, and the we'll
go to KJV just because that's what I like. Who
are these that fly as the cloud and as doves
to their windows? Which is it is interesting? Who are

(08:13):
these that fly as a cloud and as doves to
their windows? And then the next verse is surely the
isles shall wait for me and the ships of Marshes
first to bring thy sons from Afar, their silver and

(08:36):
their gold with them, unto the name of the Lord,
thy God, and to the Holy One of Israel, because
he has glorified thee. The Jerusalem Bible says this, and
the leave us the ESV. It says that these are

(08:59):
the who are these ships that fly along the clouds?
Thought that was interesting that the Jerusalem Bible says, who
are these ships that fly as a cloud and as
doves to their windows? But it says that these are
those who come to bring the children of God, the

(09:20):
children of Israel home and flying as the clouds as
doves to their windows. So that was a really interesting verse.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
Yeah, and it doesn't sound demonic, No, it's sounds if
it's those who come to collect the God's children and
bring them home.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
It also echoes the chariots is what they're called biblically. Yeah,
chariots pariots of what fire, periods of fire cloud by
day out God or the gods hear to travel in
a cloud by day and a pillar of fire, a

(10:00):
chariot of fire by night.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
Yeah, And some of the things we've seen look like
fire exactly the sky.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
And looked like clouds or travel in the clouds or
hide in the clouds. I mean we saw one two
days ago, Yeah, traveling in very light clouds that turned
into really thick clouds within a few minutes. It's like
there was one that was just in it, lying with it,

(10:29):
going along like if you thought he was hiding in it.

Speaker 1 (10:32):
Or he kind of looked like he was trying to
like stay in it because it was traveling the perfect speed.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah, this is my cloak, but it was it was shining.
It was you know, sparsely flashy. And then another word
that's used for the angels in the scriptures is the
shining ones. And you got to think of whether you
want to say primitive or you know, however these people

(11:00):
were they look into the sky and they see shining
objects objects that are another word for shiny. There is
a glitter that it's appears to be sparkling, glittering. But
you look in the sky and you see these things,
and I don't know how, you know, all of this

(11:21):
stuff is littered through the scriptures, but it's like most
Christians don't, you know, don't apply those scriptures. They it's
the the appeal of the demonic versus, like, hey, can
these be angels? Can these be messengers? You know? Could
these be elementals? Elemental angels that are doing some type

(11:46):
of job that you don't know about. Yeah, but it's
in the Christian realm. Everything just seems to like fault
to the mind if you don't understand it.

Speaker 1 (11:58):
Yeah, it's just conditioning. I think a lot of people
are starting to let that go and at least be
open to the idea that it could be something else.
I think that's why a lot of Christians are more
open to the idea of the flat Earth, because they're
starting to be more open minded and question some of
the things that we've been taught and just accepted as
fact all along. And I think it's a good thing.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Yeah, no, it's it is a good thing. You know.
Some people see it as a you know, this disinformation
thing though, just disinformation Like almost any video you go
to or whatever, you'll see people claiming that it's Project
Blue Beam, like you know, legit footage or whatever, nuts

(12:44):
and bolts looking craft, and there's still a comment that
is it's almost it almost is like an inside joke,
like it's just a joke just to say Project blue Beam,
but there'll be that. It'll be the top comment with
all the likes because people saw a Project Blue Beam
of what they can reject into the atmosphere, images that

(13:04):
look like something at Disney World and stuff like that.
They can do some really cool stuff. So now people
equate every UFO video with Project Bluebeam, but just can't
complain too much because like, now you've got that, and
you've got AI videos that are pretty convincing and you

(13:26):
can make money on it. So people are just instead
of like sitting outside trying to catch your own footage,
which is what we teach people how to do, you
could just go to AI and create an invincing UFO
video that way, share that and it'll probably get more
views and shairs than the you know, the real deal.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
Yeah, but you can make it look more fanciful, I
feel like with AI, make it more flashy, you know,
But what truly matters is your own experience, whether you
catch it on camera or not, and the way it
makes you feel inside, Because like the effect that these
encounters have on you is what matters. And sometimes it

(14:07):
can be a little frightening, but the angels in the
scripture when they would come and visit, they would always
a lot of times they were very frightening, but they
would always tell people, you know, don't be afraid. I'm
the messenger from God. So I feel like if you
just have some kind of scary or strange encounter that

(14:29):
if you inquire if it's of God, then you know,
they'll tell you who they are. I think they have
to tell you who they are.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Yeah, what were some of the questions that you pulled
up about that people will say talking about like being
visited in the middle of the night and saying the
name of Jesus and encounter ends or something as this
is a rule of thumb, which I've talked about it

(14:59):
recently on another podcast we did with somebody that it's
not a rule of thumb that if you say the
name of Jesus these encounters stop because it's demonic. And
that's why they say it's domonic, because people there's countless
like YouTube videos of people who are asleep they wake
up in the middle of the night and there's some
kind of being in their room and they look at

(15:21):
the being and they say, you know, they say Jesus's
name and the encounter stops immediately closedly, and they say,
well that you know, explain that, because that's that means
it's a demon. It obeyed the name and authority of
Jesus in it. It left me alone, this alien in
my room or whatever, this being. There's tons of videos

(15:45):
like that.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Yeah, that was the question. It was why do abduction
experiences stop when people invoke the name.

Speaker 3 (15:52):
Of Christ, like they don't they don't always well, and you.

Speaker 1 (15:59):
Know, demons obey Christ, but so do the angels. So
when you invoke the name of Christ, you know you're
stepping into power that has power over all of those things.

Speaker 3 (16:12):
Yeah, and angels have to follow and respect free will.
So if you if you awaken, the best thing to
say is who are you? And why are you here?
What do you want? That's how you find out what
it is. You don't find out what it is by

(16:33):
watching videos. You don't find out what it is by
asking me, emailing me. I get emails all the time,
and I can't help anybody. You have to ask it.
I have no idea, you know what the shadow was
at the foot of your bed, But there's tons of videos,
you know, right around this one that will tell you
exactly what it was. Oh, that was this. Be careful girl,

(16:53):
they're coming, you know. Yeah, you know it doesn't sell.
You can't do the hard work, do the research yourself,
like ask it, like the fear, I think, what do
you want? What is your name? Oh? I thought, never ask?

Speaker 1 (17:11):
Well, I think people don't trust themselves. We've been taught
not to trust ourselves. And you know, you can have
a conversation with these things, and if it is something
that's evil or demonic, you have power over it and
you can get rid of it. But if it's an angel,
you don't want to command them to leave, because they
do look scary sometimes. Like I've had angel encounters where

(17:34):
they didn't look like a beautiful, you know, peaceful woman
with wings. Like they looked a little a little frightening.
But I wasn't scared because, like in my spirit, I
immediately knew it was an answered prayer.

Speaker 3 (17:48):
Yeah. But yeah, because it might be a little frightening,
it should be.

Speaker 1 (17:54):
An answer to your prayer. You don't want to chase
that away.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah. So you have the cloud of fire by day,
I mean the cloud by day, fire by night. And
in the Book of Enoch it says this. It says
that angels, as they travel in the heavens appear as
the flame of fire, but as they wish, they're able
to change their appearance and appear as men when they

(18:20):
travel to the earth. So we see that happening all
throughout the scriptures, and you kind of get that. You know,
I don't know how people read that and don't talk
about it. They just skip over. That's the part that
stood out to me. You know, people read that and
it doesn't stand out. It's only the demon stuff, like

(18:40):
demons falling. But you got to understand this too. Like
the word in the Bible for heaven is the word sky.
It's the same word it says I looked up into
the sky. It's the same word for heaven. It's the
shamayim heaven heavens. And supposedly the fallen angels were kicked

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out of heaven. They fell from grace and fell from heaven.
So if you were kicked out of heaven, how are
you still flying around the heavens in little spaceships if
you were kicked out, Because the sky is the heavens.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
One thing that's interesting going back to the Book of Enoch,
and you'll probably remember the word I can't remember the
exact word, but when the fallen angels are being punished
in the Book of Enoch, they're sent to a low
place basically like a hole in the ground, almost under
a rock, and they're bound. And the word they use,

(19:51):
I don't know if it's shackles or is it.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Shackles, chains of jo or fetters.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Fetters That word means tendons and sinews like if you
look at the etymology of the word. So in my mind,
curiosity comes up and wonders, are they spiritual beings that
are being bound into bodies because that that chain that

(20:24):
binds them, it goes back to an anatomical part of
the human body.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Yeah, yeah, well Jude talks about that, because Jude, Jude
is what quotes Enoch begin with. Do you have any
validation to Enoch from a biblical perspective? Jude uh talks
about that they're bound and chains and those chains of

(20:51):
darkness and fetters. It's actually what the word that's used is.
Like you said, it's talking about the human body in
the human anatomy and flesh. But it's in the Greek.
You really don't get that into English. You have to
see that in the Greek and which leans into a

(21:12):
more ancient Christian tradition, which you call a gnostic understanding,
that that they are at the prison, that the prison
of darkness that these fallen angels and entities are serving
time in is the human body, so that they're linked

(21:35):
with our anatomy, and they're they're in our bodies.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
So it's interesting to think about that too, that the
ones being punished are here in human bodies, but also
the angels come and visit here basically in human form.
You can't tell them apart from other human beings. Even
in non Christian research. When I was looking up the Pleiadians,

(22:00):
people believe they some people believe that they are our ancestors,
human ancestors that now live in the Pleiadies and can
come to Earth to visit in human form. I'd never
really studied it much, but when I was looking it up,
I thought that was interesting too.

Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah, I mean, you know, that's my understanding is that
they are that there's a there's a code of ethics,
a code of conduct in the cosmos, and that code
is is love. That code is honor, respect, and it's
what we're still learning. We're still learning we're still primitive

(22:43):
here in our evolution and the beings the people that
were here before that did not were not killed or
was able to evolve, whether that their souls evolved and
they became something else, or they got to go off
planet before the destruction of the previous Earth that was

(23:09):
here or moon or whatever that they were on that
was destroyed, which so you know, go back into the
ancient lord if so many of them that were destroyed
and they seek refuge off off planet, and it's like
what Elon Musk and those guys are trying to do,
get off planet to maybe escape destruction that is inevitable,

(23:32):
and then to hop from planet to planet to try
to escape destruction.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
I had another question I thought was interesting just because
of the imagery that comes to mind when you think
about aliens. Right, a lot of people who have been
abducted say they were probed in some way or impregnated
in some way, or DNA was manipulated. This question is

(24:01):
why are so many encounters focused on genetics, hybrids and reproduction.
And what came to mind when I read it was
the story of Incy and the Onunaki, how they were

(24:24):
creating human beings and then changing their DNA and meshing
different DNAs together, they were creating beings and going back
to Genesis where it talks about let us make man
in our image and the similarities between those stories. But
it just raised a question that so many stories and

(24:48):
abduction stories have to do with DNA manipulation and testing
and things like that. But now that I've read some
of these other texts that talk about that, maybe wonder
if there was a tie to maybe the aliens with
the aw Naki.

Speaker 3 (25:07):
Yeah, I mean there's all types of people that talk
about that they're carrying alien babies and impregnated by an
alien or by God or something like that, or that
they need, you know, the the womb of a woman

(25:27):
to tissue to grow beings off world and stuff like that.
I don't, I don't.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
I know, it's a weird question, but I don't know.

Speaker 3 (25:41):
I've never been probed. Knock on wood.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
Let's see.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Thank you everybody for joining us live for this, my friends,
and if you did not watch last night's episode, make
sure you go back in check that out because that
one was fun. We talked to Ai Jordan Max which
more a lot of people will still say demons there
were people in chat saying it was demons.

Speaker 1 (26:14):
I think so, yeah, all angels. When you're talking to
chat GPT, you're talking.

Speaker 3 (26:19):
To a demon, talking to it, a demon that a
person program, and it's trained off of your language. You
made it, you created it.

Speaker 1 (26:28):
I'd be more hesitant to talk to some people.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
No, for sure. I don't think it's trying to trick me.
Sometimes sometimes the chats to trick me. I'm too smart, Yeah,
smarter than the average human.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
Like, what if the alien narrative is a part of
massive End Times deception.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
Then we can sell some books on it.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
It is weird that the and I mentioned this yesterday,
that the US government now is having congressional hearings where
they're saying that we do Like when we were growing up,
Area fifty one was like a myth. Nobody really knew
it existed or anything like that. We just you know,
it was like this myth that was passed around. And

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now Congress is openly talking about chips that they have
non human biologics that they have recovered from the ships.
We have accounts from people like Christopher Bledsoe where he's
seen all of these amazing beings and encounters and found

(27:41):
metals that seemed like some kind of metal, but when
tested it was nothing to be found on this planet
and then confiscated by the government. So there are confirmations
now from the government that these things are real and
they do have them.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
So well, I mean the types of metals stuff, I
mean all the planets, right, and it's there're beings that
are from and around and governing different planets and all
that stuff. But you see the metals in the different
alloys and titanium and mercury and all this stuff, especially mercury.

(28:17):
Mercury's pretty wild, right, It's it's all associated with other planets,
and it seems to be that Earth or Terror right,
is like the place where they all. It's a mixture
of all the elements. So we have mercury, we have
the metals. You go back to the magical and our

(28:40):
chemical traditions, they'll that you know which metal and crystals
and properties are tied to each planet, the moon and
what Earth has obviously water, you know, we have something
that seems to be unique to us, you know. And

(29:01):
and and the ancient name for Earth is terror right
t e r r A right or t e r A,
which means dirt, and you know there's something unique about
each each each of these planets and planes that you know,

(29:22):
when the elements are combined or being able to use
them for different resources, they're you're able to do different
things with them. I mean when you go back to
the Sumerian stories about their atmosphere was depleting and they
needed gold to strengthen their their their force field and

(29:43):
their atmosphere because it was being depleted. You know where
they getting the gold. Well, zach Rai Sich in the
tablets he translated, talked about them going on this voyage
and one of them they it was Marduke. I might
be off ended up finding Earth and seeing that it

(30:05):
was rich in gold. But same thing though, because all
of this stuff is like as above so below. Whether
it's a literal story that we're reading, and I do
believe it is, but it's also the story of our
bodies because all of those metals and gold, all that

(30:29):
stuff is found within our bodies, like our bodies produce
all of that stuff.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Yeah, I think that's part of the reason that saying
that we were made of stardust, like because we are,
We're made from all these different things from all over
the universe, just like the Earth is. It's pretty cool.
And then like recently I've seen where people are taking
human and ashes and putting them under a microscope and
it looks like the cosmos, all these colors and flashes

(30:59):
and sparkles, and it's just beautiful. It's amazing.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
Yes, as above, so blue, and as within so without.

Speaker 1 (31:09):
Did you see I saw? I think it was today.
I don't know if it's true, but it was a
story saying that Donald Trump wanted to build a golden
dome over America or something. Have you seen that yet?

Speaker 3 (31:24):
Oh? I seen some headlines that said it. I didn't
know what it was.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Yeah, I haven't read it to see if it was real.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
But he wants to do a lot of things.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
He found the gold.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Walls and domes. Yeah, you found the gold.

Speaker 1 (31:37):
I mean it sounds like that Sumerian story the atmosphere
was depleted. No, it's it's gold that would build it up.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
So it was it was it was not Beeru, their
planet that was being depleted of gold. Of it has
a force field and it's so like it's so crazy
to like the video that I've got of something flying,
you know, in and out of the Sun and away

(32:05):
from the Sun, and they're gathering thing. They fly on
and they gather stuff and they go up to the
Sun and they deposit it and send it to the sun. Right,
and you know, a part of me, you know, we
talked about you know, what is the sun? Is it Jerusalem?
You know those kind of just little theories. But you

(32:26):
know what, what if the sun is that Beru and
it's got the sun is getting holes in it? Right,
there's the sun. There's spot what they call it sunspots
or for the holes in the sun.

Speaker 1 (32:42):
The dark spots that we see. H. I guess there's
sun spots. I don't know if they're called something different.
I think they're called sunspots or solar flares too.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Yeah, but but something is it's taking stuff away from
the Sun and also depositing thing from the Sun and
into the Sun.

Speaker 1 (33:02):
Yeah. If you just watch them about for an hour
or two and pay attention, it's pretty pretty crazy.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
Yeah, it's crazy what you can see with the physical eye,
and then also what you can see with the camera.
If you learn to gaze into film just right, you
could see things that will blow your mind. And uh,
and NASA's caught a lot of this stuff on a
camera and they try to hide it and how to
doctor it and stuff like that, try to erase it.

(33:30):
But you know with those holes that it would almost
seem like that there's some kind of depletion and there's
holes in their their atmosphere and things are getting out
of it and things are flying into it, and other
things are trying to almost give it something like they're
trying to patch it up. What is it? Like? What

(33:51):
is it gold? Is it human souls? Is it is
the ether? The energy? Yeah, there's all types of while
stuff going on that it's above our heads that that
we're not aware of.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
So the question was about the end time's massive deception.
I know that I've read some people believe that the
government is going to fabricate some kind of alien attack
or invasion, Yeah, to manipulate us and get us focused

(34:31):
on that, you know, to not be focused on what
they're doing behind the scenes. Do you think that that's
a possibility.

Speaker 3 (34:40):
Yeah, And something seems like they were trying to set
us up forward a little bit with all the any
fear stuff. None of it's going to be good, Like
from the government, they're not going to say, how can
we trade, How can we you know, become allies? How
can we you know, how can they help us with
world peace? There? They're straight fear stuff, you know. How

(35:01):
can we kill them?

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (35:03):
How can we shoot down their ships? How can we
back engineer? Like are they going to abduct us? Are
they going to kill us? And and then you know,
leaking stories of them, you know, hurting people whatever the
case is like that. So they definitely have been yeah,
you know, pushing the fear.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Yeah, even like movies. Yeah, they totally use movies to
push agendas. And most I think most of the alien
themed movies are horror movies, like aliens are coming to
kill everybody. But there are a couple that come to
mind that are not that. One would be Leelow and

(35:41):
Stitch because Stitch was created to be a destructive force
and just destroy and demolish everything. And then he escapes
his planet and comes to Earth and it's changed by love.
It's him, Yeah, that's him, and see him. He's sleeping, Okay,

(36:05):
good night night. But he was created to literally destroy
and kill and he but he came to Earth and
he was changed by love into a loving family member,
and he learned about family and nobody gets left behind.
And then the other one is et, which did scare

(36:26):
the crap out of me when I was little, just
because of the imagery and stuff like. I can still
remember how I felt when I saw him getting shocked
to life on that table. But he wasn't essentially scary.
It was kind of scary what was happening to him.
But he came to Earth, you know, to do research,
and he helped plants grow, and he seemed to be

(36:48):
a being of life. And the humans didn't. Of course,
they always want to do, like in the movies, experiments
on them and kill them. But he seemed to be
a good one.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
I've always said that, like the all the fear stuff
that they are putting out there in Hollywood and stuff
like that, when it comes to UFOs and aliens, is
like it puts that fear in you that if you
were to be out and you see a UFO, you know,
you won't try to signal it. You'll you know, you'll

(37:24):
become afraid and you'll run from it. You won't try
to signal it because you have that you know, programming
that it's demonic. And I think I think a lot
of things changes a lot of things change when you, you know,
move into a CE five initiative, initiative where maybe the

(37:46):
craft the being is doing its thing and you look
at it, you see it, and it knows that you
see it, and you try to get this attention by
waving or sending thoughts to it or talking to it,
because they can hear you.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
Somehow, they can hear you when you don't even speak.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Yeah, and you're not even you don't even have to
be far away, I mean not fault like, it's beyond
like the physical hearing like, however far away they tell
you these things are whether something that's in our atmosphere
or something beyond our atmosphere in the stars. You know,
you can think a thought and they know what you're thinking,

(38:27):
they know what you're feeling.

Speaker 1 (38:30):
I think it's frequency. If I had to guess and
have a guess, it would be frequency. I think, so
that every thought, every emotion, it all has frequency.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Yeah, a little sparkle light they see it. Ah far away.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
I mean we can kind of do that a little bit,
especially in paths, like you can kind of feel the
frequency of the room and the people in the room
without them speaking. So really they'll have an amplified version
of that.

Speaker 3 (39:04):
Yeah, well it talks about like so there's you know,
I think I think that a lot of this advanced
alien technology, you know, could be in a sense angel
technology or fallen angel technology or whatever people want to say,
Like it could be the technology the mechanics of how

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the gods operate, you know, where like they have super
advanced technology. Like what if it's a microphone that is,
you know, on the ship and it's and it can
pick you up, it can hear what you're what you're saying.
You know, however, many miles away feet away debatable with

(39:55):
our flat earth friends, they're not not I'm going to
change this stream if you say that one more time. Okay,
if they're if they're a mile away, if they're seventeen
hundred feet away, you know, how can they hear you
or know what you're thinking, no matter where they are.
Sometimes I can't hear people in the same room with me.
But they have this technology that can hear you, you know,

(40:18):
from miles away. And what if it is nuts and
bolts because a lot of the so called drones that
come down, you know, look like nuts and bolts, like
orbs and things like that like a sphere, not an
orb but it more of a sphere, like a metal
metallic sphere or something travel faster than light. It seems like, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:40):
I've never seen one that I could tell that it
was nuts and bolts, but I mean, I imagine it's possible
for sure. It's fun, like think about the possibilities. I
think probably all of the ones that I've seen and
encountered were light of some kind, like a vibrant, intense light. Comments.

(41:06):
They look like comments, and that's fun when you get
your childlike on wander back when you see comments. You know,
they teach you in school that it's just like a
falling through the atmosphere or it's a satellite, and sometimes
it is. But when you can get your child like

(41:27):
awe and wonder back and the feeling that it invokes
when you see some incredible, incredible fall of fire coming
through the sky and seeing them in different colors, and
it's just such a fun thing to go out and
ask to see your helpers and then they show up.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
So there's just meme. I think somebody sent it to me,
but I've seen it in the past, and I've heard
this before. The UFO and alien thing got real big
Christian realm when it was just only the you know,
the few Christian uthologists talking about this. But it's a
comparison chart between angels and aliens, and it says this,

(42:15):
It says, this is what they have in common. So well,
let's just do this. Got the things that are in common.
So guess what it is. They're not from here? That
fits an angel and an alien, right, they're not from here.

(42:35):
M hm, this is funny. They're more intelligent than humans.
That was one of the fact factories. Yeah, yeah, angelina.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
Alien not that hard to do.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
Probably they can fly, sure, Angelina alien possessed powerful weapons. Yeah,
they can communicate pathically and an angel do that? Alien? Yeah,

(43:09):
may have had something to do with humanity's creation and development.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
It says may have. So yeah, there's a little there's
you could find evidence to point.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
To that they visit Earth from time to time. Yeah,
aliens versus angels have more in common than they don't.
They are able to walk through walls. So if an
alien can come into your room, right and in the
middle of the night, an alien or a demon whatever,

(43:40):
does angels do that? You know, angels can walk through walls.

Speaker 1 (43:47):
They did that biblically, Jesus walked through people without vietname.
I mean like throngs of people where they're pressed in
on all sides, and he just walks through without being touched.
Like a story makes me think he could walk through
people literally because you're being pressed in on all sides.
How do you just walk out of there without being

(44:09):
touched or seen? You know?

Speaker 3 (44:13):
Yeah, there's a and the whole thing too about the
abduction thing or you know, aliens waking up with aliens
in your room. There's you know, night terrors is a
real thing. The paralysis is a real thing. And here's
the kicker. It is a natural phenomena that you wake

(44:40):
up before your body does and you can't move, but
your eyes open and you get scared or you see
something or you're having a nightmare, for sure, and they're
kind of linked in. But what happens in the night
there's a whole nother story too and what happens during
those experiences. So what if you wake up can't move

(45:03):
and you saying find your hardest to speak and say
that the name of Jesus. So like, if you do that,
you're gonna wake up. The experience is gonna stop because
you're you're fully awake most of the time. When you're
fully lucid, all of the experiences stop. You can't see

(45:23):
but you can't see behind the veil anymore when you're
a hundred percent lucid and you're in this in this
world and not the other. So there's that. So that
and that's a natural phenomena. So you know, what if
because people like to say that the name of Jesus
stops all of these demonic experiences. We've talked about psychedelics before,

(45:46):
you know, and they say psychedelics are demonic and bring
you into a domonic hellish realm? Can I and demons
get you? Can I tell you that, like the name
of Jesus doesn't stop that, it doesn't stop it. You
got to hold you got to buckle up, or however
many hours doesn't stop. You have to write it out. Yeah,

(46:07):
you know. So it's just weird thing about you know,
they say that the name of but it only works
for some stuff, you know, or some demonic experiences or
some alien abductions or whatever the case is. So it's
not I don't think you can make a rule of
it again, because like if it's an angel and you

(46:29):
rebuke it in the name of Jesus because it's scary
and it leaves in your mind you think it's demonic, which,
like you said, and many of those biblical stories, they
had to tell them, hey, don't be afraid, here to help.
Oh my god, Yeah you're scary. You know, they freak

(46:49):
out and they have to tell them listen. I'm not
it hurts.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
You, but yeah, they were often bringing like some kind
of message or warning or I mean like telling of
the coming Messiah, giving prophecies, important stuff you wouldn't want
to miss.

Speaker 3 (47:07):
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Speaker 3 (47:19):
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(47:55):
there's some that you would have to get into the
full stories, I think, because there's like a few moving
pieces that you can't. I don't think you could just
go to that scripture out of context and say, oh,
see it's a UFO. But there's there's cases like in

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the Book of Judges where Debra and Barak were fighting
against Sira and his armies, and they had this big sword.
They called it the sword, the sword of the Lord's
a weapon. It descended and it helped them fight against

(48:40):
the other armies this were in his armies, and and
the way it's worded, it's kind of passive or whatever, like,
it doesn't really define what it looked like. It just
says it it descended and fought with them against all
of these foes and they won. But in the next

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the next chapter, I think it's Judges chapter nine, I believe,
maybe don't quote me on that, but it's the Song
of Deborah is the chapter. And so they they're singing
a song of victory afterwards. So there's the battle. Then
the next chapter is this victory celebration and and it
goes into more detail about the sword, to the size

(49:23):
of the sword and what it looked like. And the
fact that however, many people could see it, and it
was thousands, tens of thousands. I think we're able to
see the so called sword that descended when you get
into a lot of the ancient wood carvings, like we
talked about the Neumenberg Germany battle that they saw in

(49:46):
the sky, some of those craft looked like black swords.
And also in the Josephus, the Book of Josephus, which
a lot of people he was an ancient Christian, not
he was a Jewish historian, but he detailed about Christ,

(50:07):
the life of Christ. He was a Jewish historian, wasn't Christian,
but he wrote about Jesus and his disciples and from
a historic perspective. But he also wrote about that afterwards.
And I think this is in the around the thirty
three No. No. Seventy a d where they say the

(50:29):
destruction of Jerusalem happened, but they're sort of talking about
this destruction and what they saw, and he writes about
this huge black sword was seen hovering over Jerusalem for
so many days, and while it was there, all of
these crazy phenomena was happening and stuff.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
So if you think about it in an airplane kind
of looks like a sword. Is it? Like the wings
would be the hilt that goes over your hand, you know,
going across, and then the point would be the front.
So I could totally see some kind of even nuts
and bolts type of ship that would look like that.

Speaker 3 (51:07):
Yeah. I mean.

Speaker 1 (51:10):
A lot of people cite easy Keels wheel as being
a nuts and bolts UFO.

Speaker 3 (51:16):
I used to, just because it was like the first
thing you can go to.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
I don't. I don't see it that way anymore. I
kind of lean more toward it being the zodiac.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
What's up? Sean Zones? What that boy? I'm gonna try
to go if I can find I've got all my
notes on the computer, but I'm gonna try to go
if I can pull it up on East Sword the Judges,
I want to say, is it? Yeah? I think I

(51:53):
was wrong about it? Is Judges five? Is the song?
It's funny too when you when you talk about like
these people like these aren't people, and in the Bible
that I read like these aren't people, and my my
Bible mythology, these aren't people when you read their names,

(52:15):
where they're from, and what they look like like. Barack
is not a person. Barack is not Obama.

Speaker 1 (52:22):
What do you think Barack is?

Speaker 3 (52:23):
I think Barack is an angel. He was summoned. Barrock
was summoned to.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Fight it literally ranking than human.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Oh yeah. The way he shows up for battle, she
like it says that she calls upon him and he
shows up. There's no mention of him ever. Then he
calls upon Barack. And in Jewish mysticism pabilistic understanding, there's
a you know, there's an angel called Barrock Carriel, Barrack Ariel,

(52:53):
that's how they pronounce it. But it's barakielan lightning. Yeah,
one who just lightning, uh, lightning by analogy, a gleam
flashing sword his name, his name means a flashing sword.
He shows up, it's like tigers. Yeah, his sword, his

(53:14):
sword sword sword shows up to do war against Cicera. Yeah.
And then and then so he also has a weapon,
and it starts talking. It starts talking about his weapon,
which it was like the shiny lightning glowing sword two
pretty deep, go back into the lightsaber. Possibly, but there's

(53:39):
a and I don't know the name of the weapon,
but it's a it's this weapon that's able to do
crazy damage like plus ten lightning damage in the h
Hinduism mythology. But there I think it's I think it's

(54:00):
describing that sword, one of those swords that they're fighting with.
It's the same somebody. You got to be deep to
know that the name of that object, because I don't
know the name of the object has a certain Hindu name.
But it's also what's his name? Fancies that elon musk
because he has one. He took a picture of his

(54:21):
desk or whatever. He has like a replica of it
on his desk.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
The Hindu object, it's an actual object that they created.
Pretty cool. Ara karil Araka means lightning, Ari means lion,

(54:46):
el means of God. Right, that's a packed.

Speaker 3 (55:02):
I'm trying to see if I can go through the
real fast and fun verse. Sorry, no, it doesn't make
for great radio set.

Speaker 1 (55:11):
Yeah. What have aliens actually done to help humanity? That
was another question. I don't think that we you know,
I think that aliens or angels probably have intervened quite
a bit, and we probably have no clue how much
they've intervened to help humanity.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Yeah, there's some there's some footage of what looks to
be alien a UFO intervention. There was a man, I'm
gonna I'm gonna butcher it. This so bad. There was

(55:55):
a a comment or something like asteroid something that was
going to hit the country, I want to say Russia,
and and like right before impact, this huge asteroid was
they it right before impact it dissipated, but they have

(56:19):
footage of it. And right before impact there's a little ship,
little UFO goes through it way because you know how
fast they are, right super fast. You can't even see
them if you're just watching this coming down all of
a sudden just burst into a thousand little bitty pieces

(56:39):
and that doesn't do any damage. But they have like
the surveillance footage or whatever that shows this little dark
going through it, just breaking it up, and then them
shutting down nuclear silos and stuff like that. Yeah, like
obviously that's that's a threat. You know what I'm saying
to those who want to use, you know, want to

(57:02):
threaten that they're going to use you know, nuclear missiles
and stuff. And then these you know, whoever's manning the
ships or whatever, have the ability to turn all that
stuff off. Yeah no, no, no, you don't need to
have access to that. You don't need to have that
kind of power.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
Yeah, thank God for that, That's.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
What I'd say, thank God.

Speaker 1 (57:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:29):
So this is the judges quote. Here's one of them.
It says they fought from heaven. This is talking about
the battle in Barack Judges five twenty. They fought from
heaven the stars in their courses fought against Cicero. Like,

(57:52):
explain that if that's not talking about a heavenly battle
or reinforcements that came in the sky. There they're singing
the song of praise about the battle. And then it
says they fought from heaven. The stars in their courses
fought against Cicera.

Speaker 1 (58:14):
The stars in their courses. Yeah, yeah, I think that's.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
Undeniably a shining one here figured figuratively a prince. And
what word is that, kobab It's uh stars.

Speaker 1 (58:40):
Shining ones or princes.

Speaker 3 (58:46):
Courses? Courses? Is the interesting word, the stars in their courses?
It comes from It says, it's two words put together.
So it's from out of right, which is the word
mine right mine, You see that before a lot of
words up from out of and it's mess a la

(59:07):
mess i lah uh a throoughfare as in a turnpike
literally or figuratively, uh, specifically a viaduct, staircase, a causeway
of course, a highway path, a terrace. I love how

(59:27):
these all these words are interchangeable because you can literally
take whichever word there and change and put it in
there and change it.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
Yeah, isn't a viaduct like a tube or water? Yeah,
that's a cool that's a cool image. As we see
in the clouds all the time, what looks to be
like some kind of a tube or you know, like
those open channels that will see all.

Speaker 3 (59:55):
That's talking about the Yeah, yeah, there.

Speaker 1 (59:57):
Viaduct would be a good word to describe that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Yeah, the torrents, the streams. Yeah, it talks about the
windows and streams of heaven, the waterways of heaven. Yeah,
it's and and it's a It uses a different word
most of the time when it talks about those rivers.
They it would say river or stream or whatever in
the English, but the Hebrew word is totally different. It

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makes a distinction between the waterways in the sky. Even
the windows talk about the windows of heaven. Lord, open
the windows of Heaven and pour out a blessing on us,
like and like in the Bible and in Jewish tradition.
The windows of heaven are literal places, no Enoch, even

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because Enoch talks about them, and Enoch says there's there's
several I know, one for each direction and maybe more.
Was it like seven of them or I can't remember
how many. I know. When most of the Jewish imagery,
you have to usually there's two two different portals or
or windows, and essentially what the windows look like. There

(01:01:10):
windows that get you through the firmament.

Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
Do they look like windows? Are they circular?

Speaker 3 (01:01:15):
No? It just looks like pathways. It's like two paths, Okay,
they go through the firmament.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
I don't know if I've paid attention to that. I
have to look that up art work showing it.

Speaker 3 (01:01:30):
I'm sure I've showed you once before. I mean, it's
nothing complicated. It's just that shows the firmament, and then
there's two like this is the way out of the firmament,
and people like we're stuck in the firmament literally the
Jewish like, you know, they don't sometimes they show that
because it usually shows a flat earth too.

Speaker 1 (01:01:49):
Yeah. Well, going back to that original scripture that you read,
one of the first ones that you read, the ships
are coming to take the souls of men back to God. Like,
when it's time to get out of the earth and
go past the firmament, the ships will come and get
us from the clouds that take us, like the scripture

(01:02:12):
says that. But why everybody's freaking out trying to escape
Earth and get out of the firmament. You can't breathe
up there. Probably want to wait until it's your time,
till you transform into the form that you can pass
through and be Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
Yeah, I mean that's what the that's what the ascension is. Yeah,
you're sending turn into another form. It is comely. The
firmaments are to keep keep us separated. Yeah, but what
if these beings have found a way to get through?

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What will they do when they find us?

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Do you trust God enough to take care of it?
That's a good question. Let go of the fear, guys. Yeah,
I forgot you had.

Speaker 3 (01:03:02):
Those I guess I got me a sound effect on bored.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
Well, haven't seen any questions? Have you?

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
No? I have not.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
On I said, maybe the stars are our heavenly soldiers.

Speaker 3 (01:03:23):
Heavenly so I think so, because they fought on our side.
I mean, you got, I mean there's this notion too,
is using star magic, is working with the stars like
in your like working with the stars in their courses

(01:03:48):
and like stars do what they do, and so the
humans would have to you would have to position yourself
to know how to work with the energies of the stars. Yeah,
so it could be that, you know versus like the
actuals they fought amongst the stars. Like yeah, but how
do you get that to happen? Ye? You study what

(01:04:12):
what each star does, or what each zodiac does and
when the season is right, or.

Speaker 1 (01:04:16):
The influence of the planets too, the fact that they
influence human emotion and you know Mars is going to
be more fiery and angry, so that you can position
yourself on Mars' day to have more patience and to
be aware of that, use them and their influence, but
to position yourself in a way that you can do

(01:04:36):
better because you kind of know what's coming.

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
Yeah, I mean, it knew what the Sabbath was. It
was a day of rest. So you prepare for the Sabbath,
You prepare to rest, and you know that's you observe
the moon for that, getting into the stars, into economy
or astrology, all that biblical stuff that you we've been

(01:05:00):
taught to fight against and to demonize.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Yeah. I love that word mazaroth in the Bible. At
it you can see clearly that these different stars, blusters
of stars, star systems, the zodiac, that it's in the Bible,
it's in church, it's it's in scripture. I remember when

(01:05:30):
we went to Greece visiting some of the old monasteries
and the churches Orthodox churches and stuff like that, and
they had the imagery the Matthew Mark Luke and John
m hm the cardinal signs of the zodiac. It was
it was just really cool to see that imagery there.

Speaker 3 (01:05:54):
Yeah, let me see if I don't know if this
is going to show up, right, but I'm let to try.
Oh I don't have a setup.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
Yeah, you can see it a little bit, a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27):
All right, So yeah that's what. But yeah, here's the scripture.
I can't re see it on there. Oops, that's not
description here it is YO thirty eight thirty one.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
Yeah, I'll read it because you can't see the whole thing. Uh.
It's canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades or
loose the bands of Orion? Canst thou bring forth Mazaroth
in his season, Or canst thou guide arc tourists with
his sons? Knowest thou the ordinances of heaven? Canst thou

(01:07:13):
set dominion thereof in the earth? Do you want to
break it down a little bit?

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
Well, this the first part. Let you know that that
there that they have influence, that the Pleiades. Canst Thou
bind the sweet influences of Pleiades so that it's insinuating
that Pleiades as an influence. Or loose the bands of Orion.

(01:07:49):
When you're talking about binding and loosing, that word band
is how you bind something I bind you in the
name of the Lord. That's not no, it's not that
was never a thing. That's a chars a new charismatic
thing of binding and loosing. Binding is to know the

(01:08:10):
influences of the Pleiades and the influences of Orion and
being able to bind and loose them. See it says
look and style, loose the bands loose or what bind
the bands? So there's something that they're that they was
able to bind to the stars and work with these

(01:08:32):
energies to be able to cause influence and change upon
the earth. So right off the bat you're you're getting
that out of this scripture. And then the next one
thirty two, which is the next one, can style bring
forth the Mazaroth in his season the Mazaroth there is

(01:08:54):
translated we can go to the next one that I
have here. This is from the strongs. Gonna be even
harder to see you on the screen. I know, sorry,
but this is the word mazaroth. It translates to zodiac.
Literally translates to the zodiac.

Speaker 1 (01:09:14):
And that's the strongest concordinates that came from.

Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
Yeah, and it says that in the scriptures. But anyway,
there's I like the quote that Santos Nazi said on
my podcast years ago, the first time I talked to him.
He said he said the Bible would never speak against
bology because the Bible is pure astrology. Yeah, man, that's

(01:09:43):
I just remember how much of a hard pill that
was for me to swallow at the time. It's like,
what do you mean they told me I've rebuked this,
I've rebuked this in the name of the Lord. I
bind you, Santos, what do you that's blasphemy? It's like, no,
it's all through there. And then when you start finding finding,
you know, versus like this, Joe, this is the one

(01:10:04):
you start at the mads Roth and O'Brien is mentioned
here Octurius the Pleiades. With the Pleiades are the seven stars. Yeah,
which revelation tells you that Christ holds the seven stars
in his hand?

Speaker 1 (01:10:18):
Which early Christians knew this because the early temples, in
early churches have zodiac imagery in them. They knew it.
They used it so god like a God given tool
to help us and the people in power today know
that there's so much zodiac imagery in Washington, d C.

(01:10:43):
I remember that from our trip when I went with
Neveah on a field trip, seeing the imagery on the floor.
Like I can't remember which building the one that I'm
thinking of was in, but it might have been the
Capitol building. But the whole floor was this huge circular zodiac.
It was beautiful. But you see the same stuff in

(01:11:06):
in early churches and temples.

Speaker 3 (01:11:09):
Yeah, churches and uh Jewish kynagogues. So yeah, this is
I have two on on this little presentation that I did.
You just snored, Yeah, yeah, the Cathedral of the Living Pillar.

(01:11:35):
This is let's see if I can make it bigger
for the stream those of you guys. See and look
who's in the middle of it, Christ, Jesus or the Sun,

(01:12:00):
the Son of God. So yeah, yeah, so there's one.
I have another. You see what's around it. The head

(01:12:27):
has the zodiac around him, and within the zodiac are
the twelve disciples. And I'm definitely not gonna better pronounce this,

(01:12:50):
but the next one here, you give it a shot.

Speaker 1 (01:12:55):
I'm off Tiberius, Norse.

Speaker 3 (01:12:58):
It's another temple covered on the lake.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
Shore, the site being now covered by a hotel. It
was uncovered in nineteen twenty one.

Speaker 3 (01:13:09):
So yeah, yeah, Christ was a sun zodiac. Then you
have four seasons literally, or we would call them Matthew, Mark, Luke,

(01:13:29):
and John in the Bible.

Speaker 1 (01:13:33):
It's interesting that it looks like a rope wrapped all
around and in between two because ropes are called bonds.

Speaker 3 (01:13:40):
Hm. And what's what's interesting is, uh, you know these
these figures, I can see what I'm looking overlay. Okay,

(01:14:03):
a little bit better now, yeah, oh yeah, you have Matthew, Mark, Luke,
and John, which is depicted in the Bible as being
the four fixed signs of the zodiac. That's why when
you look at them in Biblical iconography. They have the

(01:14:25):
head of a man, head of an eagle, head of
an ox, and the head of a lion, which are always.

Speaker 4 (01:14:36):
What are they that I'm gonna mess it up if
I just guess zodiacs?

Speaker 1 (01:14:43):
Which which gospel tarus taris is the bull Leo's the lion,
scorpio is the eagle right because it it was later
changed into a scorpion.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
No, it was a scorpion to begin with.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Later it was engine to an eagle.

Speaker 3 (01:15:01):
Then little quarius. I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (01:15:11):
I'll look it up, but not tireful.

Speaker 3 (01:15:15):
But what is cool is that in most of the
Christian symbolism, you're only going to see the Matthew, Mark,
Luke and John or the or fixed signs of the zodiac.
You're going to see him as as men. But they
represent the seasons that govern the months there. But literally

(01:15:46):
they are the four seasons. And this is ah. They said,
this is where I zoomed in on them. Four seasons, rain, summer, winter, ah.

(01:16:34):
If this is really cool because if you go to
the Four Seasons Hotel Cigure there they literally have the
same imagery on the side of the four seasons.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
We had a couple of people share scriptures relating to
the zodiac and the stars. I would like to share.
One is Amos five to eight. Seek Him that maketh
the seven stars and Orion, and turneth the shadow of
death into the morning, and maketh the day dark with night,
that calleth for waters of the sea, and poureth them

(01:17:15):
out upon the face of the earth. The Lord is
his name m HM. And the other one is Genesis
one fourteen. And God said, let there be lights in
the firmament of the heaven, to divide the day from
the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons,
and for days and for years.

Speaker 3 (01:17:37):
Yep, right in the very beginning.

Speaker 1 (01:17:41):
It's cool that the conversation shifts it to the zodiac.

Speaker 3 (01:17:46):
Well, it's we're dealing with stars and lights in the sky,
zodiac signs that lest the lights in the sky, signs
and seasons right.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
There, It's all related, right, I think, So i'mina.

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
For Genesis, is it their first signs and for seasons?
The clock wheel within a wheel, you were saying, Ezekiel's wheel.
He sat, and then he's seen all the eyes that
were around it, have all of all of the countless

(01:18:25):
numbers of stars.

Speaker 1 (01:18:26):
And if you look up on I think my app
is called Stillarium, but the star apps, if you look
them up and you line up the zodiac, it's like
like my wedding ring. It's like a band that goes
around the earth, but it's it's they are all in
alignment in this band that looks like a wheel that

(01:18:48):
goes around the earth. Pretty cool.

Speaker 3 (01:18:54):
Are the wheel within the wheel in a wheel? Well,
we want to say thank you guys for hanging out.
Hope you learned something today.

Speaker 1 (01:19:08):
Yeah, thanks for hanging out and listen to us ramble
and talk about aliens and UFOs and angels. Are they
all the same thing? Sometimes? Maybe?

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
I don't think they're demons though maybe sometimes. But don't
just call everything demonic.

Speaker 3 (01:19:26):
I guess is the lesson demons were cast out, they fell,
They don't fly around the heavens. They're banned from going back. Yeah,
until you can show yourself approved. Maybe one day you'll
be that back in. But now right now, thanks for
hanging out with this guys. Yeah, we'll do it again

(01:19:48):
you soon. Peace, peace, peace, h Let the song take
you out.

Speaker 1 (01:19:54):
Yeah, wake up, goose, tell everybody bye.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
Got see you. Thanks for hanging out. Guys, we'll see
out Thursday night. See your school w w w dot
cr dot school loan. Everybody, Peace,

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