The Shocking Connection Between UFOs, Angels, and Sacred Land at Mount Shasta

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
We're live now. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the True
Seeker and Aaron Podcasts, and we are joined today by
our amazing friend Krine Grillo. Krin, welcome to the show,
to the podcast measure. How are you.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 (00:19):
Good to have you. As always, We've I called you.
I know you listened to the last podcast, I said.
A friend, A friend of the show, a friend of
the family. We've done a couple couple of shows and
talks together over the years. It's been amazing.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
Yeah, quite a journey.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
And uh and now we're doing our first retreat together.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yes, can you believe we finally got it together.

Speaker 1 (00:43):
To do that.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
It just is aligned perfectly, man and experience.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, timing is everything.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Huh Yeah, just having the idea of putting it out there.
And it's like it's kind of weird because we tried
to do it before and it's like, oh, there's too
many this got line up with that and that's gotta
book that and just got to do this and it
was just hard. And then probably a year later it's like, hey, already,
it's like I think we are okay. Boom here it is,
it's set up. Everything's good, and uh well we're running

(01:12):
into some problems already. We're running into space. Space is limited.
Just for you guys who are like itching, because people
have been asking us like when is the next retreat?
So if you want to share, kurent, let everybody know
what we're doing.

Speaker 4 (01:27):
Yeah, yeah, I mean, well what we're I mean, what
we're doing up there in Shasta.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, Mount Shasta.

Speaker 4 (01:34):
Yeah. Yeah, oh my gosh, what are we doing? I mean,
look that place. Look, guys, I got it. Three years ago.
I was guided to find a property that I could
take people to pilgrimage because I've done pilgrimages in other
people's you know lands and Mexico with the indigenous, and

(01:54):
we would go and go to a sacred mountain to commune,
you know, to connect with spirit and to pray. And
the Indigenous believe, you know, when you go to these
sacred places that when you go pray there, the veil
is center, so the veales come. But you know, I
would go like to Peru and you know, all over
the damn place, and then you know, then it's like,

(02:16):
you know, I asked spirit and I talked to the
to the good mountain spirit.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Hey, find me your friend in the United States, so
we don't have.

Speaker 4 (02:22):
To travel so far, like twenty four hours, and then
you know, Shasta landed, and then you know, like it
was literally a serious series of weeks later where someone
emailed me and said, hey, are you looking for a
retreat center or there's Shasta, And so I bought that property.
But I supremely underestimated the power and the magic of

(02:45):
sacred land and the power of this place, which is
known to be the root chakra of the world. That's
one of the most sacred mountains in the world. I
knew it, like intellectually, but the incredible wonders that have
happened since I've been there it's only been three years,
are so breathtaking and so astounding. So it is beyond

(03:09):
my pleasure to invite your community and our communities together
to commune with angels and to really have a deep
connection with just their own heart, with the land and
with the incredible bounty out there. My house sits on
a like a lava tube. So Shasta is a volcano,

(03:32):
and so my land is like this, It's like a bubble,
so it lifts up above the valley and you can
see a circle of mountains. So like the protection and
the teaching and the animals and the spectacles and the
unexplainable things that often happen when we are in the

(03:54):
act of prayer. There rainbows out of no where. We've
had rain. I did a water blessing with my people
last year, and it was summer, in the middle of summer.
There was no rain forecasted. But after I was done,
the heavens broke and they rained down upon us, and we're.

Speaker 1 (04:15):
Like, wow.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
You know, it's just just always so astounding when when
spirit speaks back to us like this. You know.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, it's been a it's been a hot hot spot
for all types of phenomena. And I've mentioned it in
my songs and stuff before, just because all the research
I've done over the years. And we're and it's popping
up in a lot of songs recently about UFOs and angels.
At oh yeah, top of Mount Shasta, and here we

(04:45):
are getting our first our first trip up there, guided
by Miss Karin the Great korein.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Grilla, guided by the Holy ones, you know.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, so they're you're guys. But while
we're up there, you're our guy, like your hands, yes, yes, yes,
make sure it's good.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
I love that you said you both.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Yeah. You know. Just I'm not one to just like
believe stuff just because people tell me, you know. So
that's what was so amazing of going over there is
you know, once I lived there or like my retreat
property was there, and I had people fly out from
all over to come commune with us and and just

(05:29):
go deep and do some deep healing and some deep reverence. Whoa, yeah,
the last one of the last private ceremonies that I
that I had there, you know, and I hold plant
medicine ceremonies up there, and you know, a variety of
other kind of spiritual natured things. But we did an

(05:49):
evening ceremony, and it was the first time I did
a nighttime ceremony. And we're going to be doing some
nighttime stuff, right all we're going to I know, for us,
it's like all night, all day party, right Yeah. But
uh but yeah, this woman, she she hadn't been to
my property yet and she was going through a lot

(06:11):
and it was her birthday actually, and so we were
we were in ceremony and I look up and I
see this craft, I guess there's only other, yeah, hovering
above one of the mountains that is called a black
butte and I I saw it there, just hovering, and

(06:31):
I was like, that's suspicious, that can't be. But it
stayed there, and it stayed there in the same place.
And then I didn't want to draw an alarm, you know,
I want my people to have their own experiences. Maybe
I'm just seeing it or whatever. But eventually she she
saw it there, and you know, I was already drumming,

(06:52):
getting reverence to it and lighting up you know, incense
and giving offerings and saying, you know, thank you siblings
for coming, and thank you family. But she eventually saw
it and she's like, is that is that? I was like,
it is what it is. You tell me exact you know,
you tell me. And as I walked over to her,

(07:15):
she was sitting in front, straight facing straight towards the mountain.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
As I walked over to her to do some healing work.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
The craft moved from that part of the sky all
the way too, directly in front of us. As I
started doing the healing work in front of her, and
she was just like we were both just like in tears, crying,
at just the incredible blessing of the love. First of all,
the love was palpable, as it always is kind of
at our at the property, especially when we were in reverence,

(07:44):
but it was just it's the these signs and wonders
that are just so next level fun. And that's why
I'm so excited about our retreat because we're actually, you know,
you're gonna finally you know, get cracking with we're.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Teaching, were doing the teaching in the workshop, right.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, we're doing it. June twelfth through the fifteenth is
the official and there's an add on for the sixteenth
for a mushroom ceremony psilocybin for those who want to
move forward with that. It's an add on. So mark
your calendars if you guys would like to go to

(08:23):
Mount Shasta with us. And I mean, there is an itinerary,
but we can use all of these words because we're
going to do it all. It's really hard for me
when we're talking about working with the angels and talking
to the angels and what do angels look like? And
it's like, okay, which ones you know? Like every moment

(08:44):
like where's the magic? How do you do it? It's like,
first of all, we're doing it right now just by
talking about them. So just by talking about them, you
increase the awareness, you increase expectation. Where people when they
get off their phones and they look up for a minute,
or look at the clock with the television, or watch
this this new season of Black Mirror, you'll be getting

(09:05):
signs and synchronicities and stuff everywhere where. The angels are
reaching out to you in numbers and colors and sense
and aromas and all of these things. And uh, and
they approach you, uh that way, they approach you as people,
and they approach you in the clouds and glorious forms
and dark forms and show so many angels come in

(09:26):
all shapes and sizes, and so I think we'll be
diving into I don't know what that was.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Oh sorry, that was something coming on? Was that you?

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Okay? That was me? I heard myself.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Sorry, I'm trying to find it. Sorry.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Want to check out and see who's here so I
can talk in the comments to.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
No, I don't want to hear myself.

Speaker 2 (09:56):
Good.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, it's coming through. It's playing like for some reasons, yep, okay.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
I see okay, Sorry guys, maham Mayham.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
So my thing that I want to encourage people to
do too, because we always say you don't need anything
outside of yourself, right, like you don't have to go
to Mount Shasta to have these amazing experiences. But there
is a word for it, and I can't think of
the word, but music festivals and things where people go
to a location that creates an atmosphere for an experience

(10:34):
and just being outside of what you're used to because
like being at home, sometimes we create ideas of what's
normal and what's going to happen here, and we have
expectations of this is kind of mundane and every day.
But to move somewhere else where you've never been, or
somewhere that people like you have set such a beautiful

(10:54):
intention and relationship with the land for these kinds of
experiences can be ultra powerful. And also just like we
do kind of have an itinerary, but to not get
in the mindset that it's like a checklist and just
flow through it that even though we might be in

(11:15):
between the itinerary, we won't be in between an experience,
Like the experience is always present with us no matter
what point we're at.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
Well, that's what I mean, that's one of the things
that I learned in teaching over there, is because I've
been teaching for years.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
I've been leading even retreats for years.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
However, over there, it's like I have a kind of
a basic map, but right away it was just like, Okay,
throw everything you knew out the table, because the instruction
starts coming almost immediately from the land and from the
allies that starts showing up. And I know, for me,
it's like I can buy a bunch of materials that

(11:57):
we're going to do or whatever, but it's usually the
last two hours that they're like, you need to go
to Walmart and pick up this thing and then pick
up that And so yeah, we do. We are instructed
and we're guided, and the presence there is very palpable.
Most people can feel it. Actually when you start coming in,
within probably about an hour of the mountain, you can
start feeling the peace kind of watch over. You start

(12:19):
feeling the comfort. But our land is specifically curated, right,
so I don't really have a lot of people on
the land unless we're in ceremony or unless we're coming
in for sacred things like a lot of fun. First
of all, because celebration is always key dancing. We do
a lot of dancing over there, but always in reverence,

(12:42):
you know, for fun and reverence and communing with each other.
But one thing that is for sure is that you
will do this photography class, Jo Secret. You will do
the smartphone you will.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
You will be compelled to brother, that's right.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
I know. Listen if you if you crack me up,
I won't stop. I won't stop talking. We're going to
nerd out. We're gonna nerd out and I and uh
and uh and we're gonna do it. We're gonna show
people how they can catch footage of angels on their phone. Anybody, everybody,
because they're around you every day, all day, even right
now in this moment. And and there's certain there's certain

(13:23):
light spectrums that are able to pick up the different
beings that are able to vibrate on that spectrum of light,
whether they're faster or slower than the other others. And
many of these are very fast. Many of these are
of them are faster than your eyes can even track
at all. So if you like, for some of them,

(13:45):
the ones that you want to see, they're hidden, they
have to actually slow down for you to see them, right,
But there's different divinatory instruments that we have, one being
a black mirror that I hold up here. This is
a black mirror called the smartphone. It's a Samsung Galaxy
or iPhone or whatever you have. You can gaze into

(14:07):
the black mirror and you can point it towards certain
clouds and certain spectrums of light, and they will appear
and show themselves to you, traveling and doing their duties
that they do for God and for humanity. And yeah,
we're gonna we're gonna nerd out on it. And uh,
I guarantee everybody will see something and catch something on
their own cell phone.

Speaker 4 (14:30):
Yeah, I mean it's so important, and I you know,
I know it sounds gimmicky in a way, like because
that's you know, it's not the crux of the radical transformation.
Of course, that angels can inspire inside of us. They can,
they're awakeners. They can open up the roads for us.
But what has been the creme de la cremoi, the

(14:52):
icing on the cake, is capturing them on film, praying
and then capturing them on film or capturing them in
the ceremonies.

Speaker 2 (15:04):
Well, it's incredible.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, we've we got it. We get a lot of
like pushback from the religious community, and so, oh, you
just use the word divination. Divination just means to commune
with the divine, because the divine God is divine, and
it's holy angels in Christ is divine, and you are divine.
So once you know this, you you're stepping into this

(15:25):
divinatory experience. And there's tools that we use to communicate
with each other, and there's tools that they use that
that they're almost like barriers. They have to use these
tools to communicate because we don't understand their language. Some
of their language, most of their language is love, and
most people don't even understand that language. So there's a

(15:45):
there's a there's a release, there's a release of awe
and wonder in what it's called inspiration to inspire you
when you see the holy ones traveling in in any
shape or form, and again they come in many shapes
and sizes, and so the and you know religious iconography,

(16:06):
they were painting these craft they were painting these divine beings.
They were writing about them in every holy book on
the planet, including the one that I know the best,
the Holy Bible. I've got a verse here pulled up.
This is Isaiah sixty and eight, and it says simply this,
who are these that fly as a cloud and as

(16:29):
the as the doves to their windows? Who are these
that fly as a cloud and as dove to their windows?
The Jerusalem version of the Bible says this, what are
these ships that fly to the clouds? It actually uses
the word ships because you said a while ago craft ship.

(16:50):
The Jerusalem Bible says, what are these ships that fly
to the clouds? And so you know for this goptics,
how like when was that written? When was that written
about these ships that fly to the clouds? And it
tells you who they are. It says, these are God's messengers,
his children coming to bring the children of Israel home.

(17:14):
It's like when it's time for you to go. So
we're gonna like we get into some really priesthood Melchester,
that priesthood stuff of what what their their roles and
what they do. And let me be the first to say,
it may shock you, it may spook you, it may
scare you, because there is awe and wonder that's imparted.
But there's a holy divine reverence when you watch them

(17:37):
do what they do, and vice versa. I think they
look at us with the same holy, divine reverence watching
us do what we're what we're doing here, and as
they got this this thing we call life.

Speaker 4 (17:50):
Yes, yes, that's that's fascinating and I love that. And
that's so much of what I love about your work
and why I'm so happy to have you also over
at the property is like like you, I think a
lot also with my work and the work that I do,
I like to look through the past, look to history

(18:11):
as to what these things we're doing or gravitating to,
like divination, or like going into trans states, or like
plant medicine. You know, plant medicine has been bastardized by
the West in their thought process around it, but it
is a sacred medicine and sacred communion, and it is
the one of the hidden sacraments because of religious colonization

(18:37):
and that it just separated us from so many of
the things, you know, like just being outdoors first of all,
is being out of the ports, communing outside. I mean,
you know, it's like wow, it's astounding really so so
much of the work I think for me now is

(18:58):
really encouraging people to get back to their roots. What's
natural to us because when you go outside with that
childlike wonder and you receive the blessing of it, it's
just with the right framework and the right mindset. And
when you gather like Aaron Arian you're saying, you gather
folks together and you create a principled container of just warm,

(19:24):
soft hearts and and profound reverence. It's just incredible what happens.
What happens, the healing that happens there is just just incredible.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
With all the people that show up and all the
people who know that they're supposed to be there. That's
the thing. When it comes to selling tickets or marketing mode,
there's like a mode you got to get in. We
just like to just announce it, make sure that we
get the word out so that like if you know,
you know, like you know, like, oh I want I
gotta be there. I'm not going to miss this. If
that's you, you already know, there's no like, uh you know,

(19:59):
I don't know, like there's something in you that says, yes,
there's other things that are going to tell you know,
but when the gut feeling tells you yeah, like I
trust that, I follow that it led me here to
this point. So it'll lead you to the retreat if
you're supposed to be there. The finances will come into alignment.
They always do, and so you And that's one thing
that when it comes to working with the angels, you

(20:20):
learn to trust your intuition or learn to trust your
gut feeling. And that's why we're putting this event on anyway.

Speaker 4 (20:26):
That is absolutely true, and that is how I got
you know, I was a licensed therapist and I'm still
a therapist, well you know, by by trade or by
by licensure.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
But it was.

Speaker 4 (20:41):
During a time when I really had We had no cash,
our house was going into foreclosure, and we were on
the brink of divorce. That's when the angels came. I
witnessed my first miracle. I was not religious. It was
really the first time I was actually calling on angels
and I witnessed a big mirror. And after that, you know,

(21:03):
the the.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
They came to life for me. On the inside.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
I could hear the other voice, I could see and
feel the presences and all of that stuff, and so
I wanted to like learn more. Except for there's and
you know, back then it was hard to find, you know,
but there was this one training or workshop over in Hawaii,
and I.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
It's like so freaking expensive.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
It was like really even forget I mean think about
that's like fifteen years ago almost. It was like a
few thousand dollars. And then I had a small child too.
It's just the wrong time for me to be going
for cash, to use a bunch of cash to leave
my family, which I had never done, and for me

(21:47):
to like sit there and advocate to my husband, I
want to go learn about angels, okay, random out of nowhere, okay,
and spend that kind of case, h.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Leave my child. You guys can't come because you know
they're so weird out, like out of the box. But
I was compelled to. I was compelled to.

Speaker 4 (22:11):
And it was the weirdest thing probably I had done
at that point because we didn't have the cash, like
I said, and he's he said to me, well, you're
gonna do anything with it, and I was like, no,
absolutely not, I'm not gonna do anything with it.

Speaker 2 (22:28):
I just I already have a career. What am I
gonna do with angels?

Speaker 5 (22:32):
I just I just like them.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
And so he looked at me like, you know, somewhat disapproving, shaming.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
But uh, you know, he he's like you are you
know what's he gonna do?

Speaker 4 (22:45):
Eventually, it's like you just choose, you just decide that's
who that's what you're gonna do.

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Hope for the best, right, I want to do it,
and I.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
Mean working around waiting for permission for every from everybody.

Speaker 1 (22:57):
That's all it takes. That's all it takes. Man for
any anybody. Listen, like you know how we like our
calling is to call people up higher, you know, and
it works on many different levels. And it's like, listen,
if you have the desire, and it's a good desire,
like you're here to experience good things in life. God
created this place and it was good, right, He created

(23:19):
all things and it's good, and so there's a desire
within you to go and to see and to experience
the world. I've never been to mout Shasta. This is
an opportunity for us to come for the first time.
And then, you know, like you were saying that that
poverty mindset that we had to come out of, and
then you wrote a book called Angel Angel Wealth, like
working with the angels to bring in wealth. It's really

(23:41):
just to bring you into alignment with what's already there
infinite abundance. That is the finances, the fuel, whatever it
is for you to go to Greece, which we just
got back from Greece and Colorado and I were like
traveling the world just doing what we love. And it's
one thing for us to do it, but we're taking
y'all with us, like everybody has to do it like that,

(24:04):
you know within you, I don't want to convince you
of anything. I want to just give you permission, like
you said, just like I want permission. This is your
permission to follow your dreams and follow your heart and
do what the Creator has put you here to do. Yeah,
And you already know that's the thing, And it's just
to trust that that voice. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
And sometimes, like when you get called to an event
like this, when you feel that gut instinct in that
pool to come, it's the the angels know there's something waiting.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
For you there too, that that you need.

Speaker 3 (24:39):
Whenever we had our retreat over a year ago and
I had a profound healing experience. I came out of
a new person. I just flat out the old me
died there and knew me was resurrected in new life.

Speaker 1 (24:54):
And she got born again, I did.

Speaker 3 (24:56):
Like really, and uh, I just had a a lot
of trauma and things that I was holding within me
that I didn't even realize. I thought that I had
processed it properly, but no, I hadn't. And so between
the music and the meditations and the breath work and
the cacal and the different modalities that we used, it

(25:16):
was able to shake up and heal and loosen up
all this scar tissue that I had within me and
allowed the angels and the Holy Spirit and Christ to
actually come in and make contact again where I had
completely closed myself off unknowingly. So sometimes when you get
called to events like this and you don't even know why,

(25:40):
you know it'll be revealed to you. Because I came
to that event just knowing I was kind of feeling
like very closed and at the end of my ropes,
and I literally came out of it a new person,
born again again for the you know, Christian lingo.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
But I just like the old me died and they
an't here no more.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
And it didn't even come to me in words, but
like through the breath work and the CACW, it just
everything was revealed to me in my body in the
in the chakras in my body, how I had blocked
it up from trauma that wasn't processed. And I just
always get so excited for these events, for the the

(26:21):
sound baths and the cacao and the other ceremonies, like
just to help people shed that that skin, you know,
that like a snake, like shedding that old version that
you don't need anymore so you can grow and come
into something new and beautiful.

Speaker 4 (26:37):
Yeah, And that's really it, And I think that that's
the that's the the daily opportunity we have to let
ourselves die completely in certain ways, you know. Yeah, And
so many of us kind of run from these things.
We run from change, were terrorized by the thought of
change and what it means. But any who is a

(27:00):
seeker and is coming from the heart's path, the heart
requires fierceness in the in the battle, you know, it
requires this this level of surrender, like you surrendered arian,
and sometimes it kind of strikes you out of nowhere
right like lightning in a good way. But yeah, I

(27:23):
think my first miracle was one of those moments. I
also died for real, yeah, because I was like, my
only prayer back then was just wishing I would die,
like every day I would wake up and that really
would be like, come on, let this be the last day.
And it wasn't until Yeah, the angels interceded and made

(27:44):
me go to a really weird thing in Hawaii that
I thought I was just the most impractical thing I
could think of. Was that at the time, the thing
that I never would ever have bought myself ever unless
that spirit was lied in me. That was the first
time I did anything like that. So, yeah, just we
have to die in order to live, is the thing.

(28:04):
There's a lot of walking zombies out there. It's yeah, yeah,
just not plugged in, not plugged into love or just
not having fun, but just kind of going with the
program this autopilot.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Yeah, they're on autopilot. Oh, I think we might have
lost her there for a moment, for a moment.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
But yeah, like so many people are walking zombies. They're
the walking dead. They don't even know it. But you
have to get to that point sometimes where it's like,
even if it kills me, I've got to have some change.
I've got to have some healing. And people are doing
whatever they can to escape reality because they don't see
it as a beautiful, joyful blessing anymore. But I bet

(28:55):
what at one point in their life they did.

Speaker 1 (28:58):
Yeah. Yeah, it's been a crazy roller coaster, a wild
blessing to be able to facilitate that for people. Yeah,
and see you know, the expressions, the look, the the
change that comes to them that they get to go

(29:18):
home with. I mean, we have a list of people
that we could just you know, it's I'm saying inside joke,
but it's just nobody know what we're talking about. But
it's so many people, man, whose lives have just been
like you pay it forward. Yeah, And I think it's
really just in creating an atmosphere for people to come
and experience what you have experienced in for most of

(29:41):
the stuff we talk about, like being intuitive and and
making sure that everybody's tapped in. You know, we're seekers
at heart, like we're going in, you know, and so
we just get to take people with us. That's all
it is. So when I say, like, you know, being
off schedule, the Angels don't, well, let me let me

(30:05):
if I was about to say the angels don't have
a schedule with which they do a lot of them do,
So let me let me not lie but but us
knowing their schedule as a whole, that's a yeah. Yeah,
Like if you know that every day at three o'clock,
you know, the school bus passes by, you can go
out there and wave it the children on the bus, Hello, everyone.

(30:27):
My little dog here, y'all can barely see them. He
likes to watch the children play and stuff. But uh,
and he knows when they're he knows, you know, when
they're passing by, when the cat comes by like clockwork
every day. Literally on our security cameras, you can see
there's the matrix every day three o'clock. This happens every day.
This happens every night. And once you know that, then

(30:51):
you can position yourself to be a watcher, be one
of the watchers. Like who watches the watchers? I want
to watch them do what they do?

Speaker 5 (31:01):
Yeah, And.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Where attention goes, energy flows, and they know when you know.
They know that you know, and they know that you're watching,
so they'll put on the show and they'll say hello.
You know. Most of those videos is say hey, can
you say hello? And it's just the prayer or just
the conversation is can you say hello? And then a

(31:24):
magical moment happens.

Speaker 3 (31:26):
Yeah, And we talk a lot about fragrance and emotion
and what the angels in these unseen forces feed upon,
because you know, they have to eat something, and we
feed them our joy and our gratitude and our honor.

(31:47):
And when you get in cycles of everyday life where
that autopilot mode, that zombie mode where you're kind of
feeding into the stress and the anxiety and the talking
down to yourself and that stuff that attracts that attracts
things too. But the angels we have found are super
attracted to joy, to ecstatic dance, to honor, to gratitude,

(32:13):
all the beautiful things. So if you can find something,
even if it's a fragrance of an incense or remembering
a beautiful experience that you.

Speaker 5 (32:22):
Had, or holding hands with your loved one, just anything.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
That can stir up those feelings of gratitude and joy,
then they're drawn to it.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
They can't help but be drawn to it.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
Yeah, just talking about about these moments and experiences does it,
you know, for it's different for everybody. You know, we
started talking about like I've been talking about, you know,
just mentioning encounters in the past and stuff you've mentioned
before or start talking about Christ, start talking about what,

(32:57):
you know, the love that emanates for or from from Christ,
and the grace that's shown to you. And and we've
talked about that for years, but for some reason, it
just is like all you got to do is talk
about it and you can feel it. Now there's a
different feeling to it, like once you go through life
like it kind of it hits a little bit different,

(33:18):
you know. Yeah, So just talking about this stuff. You
know what we say, your manifest your expectation brings about
your manifestation. Yeah, just start talking about So with that
being said, be careful what you're talking about. Be careful
what you're listening to. Be careful what signals you're putting out,
because you're going to attract those things to you, because.

Speaker 3 (33:40):
You are making agreements and signing contracts with things and
beings and realities that you don't even realize you're actually
like pinning a contract when you say some things. So
we want to undo those those kinds of contracts and
make contracts for abundance, for wealth, for.

Speaker 5 (33:58):
Ecstatic joy, for peace.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Let us know in the comment section, if you guys
can hear this snoring dog, Karen is.

Speaker 5 (34:06):
Going to be right back. She said, her daughter unplugged
her WiFi.

Speaker 1 (34:11):
Bad timing, right, Mom's on the podcast, I gotta charge
my phone, and like the dude's unplugging the breathing machine,
plug his phone up. Grandpa's you know, on the breathe
of scene of the house. God forbid. But yeah, let
us know if anybody has any questions. Karin will be
back momentarily. But if you have any questions for Karen

(34:31):
or for us while we're here, I gotta.

Speaker 3 (34:33):
Give a shout out to La don Laddan's watching. She's
coming to the retreat.

Speaker 5 (34:37):
I can't wait. I can't wait to hug her in person.

Speaker 1 (34:40):
Yeah, and I bet everything we just said ladn already there.

Speaker 2 (34:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
She just felt it down in her in her in
her i'll say, in her heart and her spirit and
her soul and her innermost being. Yeah, she felt it
within her core that this was what I'm supposed to do.
And uh and she did it. And I'm sitting here.
There's other people purchasing tickets right now. Reccuae says, Nope,
can't hear The snoring dog made me smile. I'll put

(35:06):
my mic.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Yeah, he's so cute, I.

Speaker 1 (35:19):
Know, yeah, I heard that. Well, I do have the
compressor turned on, so it kind of turns off like
the background north. But there's a little snoring dog here
on my lap. Yeah goody. So yeah. Shout out to
to everybody watching with this live shout out. We got
a good, good bit of people watching. Shout out to
all of Karim's people. Got a bunch of guests here.

(35:40):
Shout out to the outpost mafia out yeah clan, you know,
big boy, big boy, and it was here. What's that
big boy? How y'all doing? Everybody? Karma is back. I believe.

Speaker 2 (35:55):
She is. Oh my god, it's like, what the heck?
My daughter just on a whim of course, unclose the
whole wi.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
Fi uh oh you okay, miss h a snoring dog.
You missed the snoring dog. That's about it. Oh okay, okay,

(36:29):
we think you're good. I think of reset.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
Maybe no, still in and out?

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Okay, all right, maybe it'll pick back up here in
a second. And oh you had the connection is really bad? Virginia,
Virginia hiker says, a.

Speaker 2 (36:47):
Little wobbly, right, it was maybe ship Yeah, let me
see if I can.

Speaker 1 (36:55):
That's better when you stood up, it was better. We
can see you. That's better for us.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
Okay, listen, a different area here, I'll move a little closer.

Speaker 3 (37:12):
See.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
Gosh, darn it, those little those little wolf snappers. Huh right,
what did I meet? What? What did I miss them?
Did I miss anything?

Speaker 1 (37:24):
Oh? You just you just you miss just some small talk.
Our dog is asleep here snoring on us, and we're
just talking.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Oh my god, you're talking cute a little turkey leg.

Speaker 1 (37:41):
Okay, because you're looking at a different camera than everybody else,
you can see. Yeah, okay, all right. So you were
just on Coast to Coast a m with George Nori again,
how'd that go?

Speaker 2 (37:56):
Yeah, it's good. Yeah, it was like our or is
it our third third little interview of yours? And it was.
It was fun, super fun. It's always fun to chill.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
I'm always worried, you know, at that time of night
because it's like midnight to two am that I have
to go on live and then they want you to
be all smart and wise and stuff and right, because
you've done it too, You've done Coast to Coast. Oh
yeah yeah, but your your time is what is like
what it would like ten?

Speaker 1 (38:30):
Oh, it's earlier for you no, it's later for me. Yeah,
it's laws like midnight to like two or four am
or something crazy. But hey, I was I'm crowing. I
love it. It's such an honor.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
Yeah, it's I think it's so fun. Yeah, he's a
great interviewer. I've always had fun. And I did his
show on Gaya too. That was a real trip to
to meet those people.

Speaker 1 (38:59):
But yeah, hey, how were they? Can you talk about
how were they? Because because anybody like I've seen even
seen in some comment sections today where people give Guaya
a bad rap and so like they everybody everything associated
with Guya, all those people are bad. And so you're
associated with Guya by you know, guilty by association because

(39:21):
you've been on this show. How how was it that, Guya?
How are those people? Oh goodness and Guya freaking disconnected?

Speaker 4 (39:30):
You?

Speaker 1 (39:33):
I shouldn't ask that question, Guya. This I'm sorry. I'm sorry, Guya.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 (39:44):
Okay, okay, okay, So you were sack Okay, I'm gonna
try this front. Okay, So you were saying.

Speaker 1 (39:51):
You guys.

Speaker 4 (39:51):
I'm usually not this crazy, but every once in a
while on the important phase of course, it is, so yeah,
what if you people saying I don't.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
I don't keep up with the times. You know, I'm
too dizzy hunkered.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Oh, I'm sorry for telling you. I'm sorry to be
the bearer.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Of I want to hear the gossip. Doesn't everybody else
want to hear the gossip?

Speaker 1 (40:10):
I'm sure they do, no, because everybody knows that gossip.
I'm sorry. I don't know why the bad comments, the
mean comments, they stand out. But how how is your
time at Guya? How how was that whole experience?

Speaker 4 (40:24):
I mean, it was okay, But I'm just wondering what
is it they're saying that even the people speaking there,
or is it just the people that work there or I.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
Don't know, they just kind of blanket statement. You know.
It's like it's like, you know, if someone was just
said the government is bad. So if you're if your
cousin works for the government, then you're you know, they're
calling your cousin. You know what I'm saying, It's like
Guya is evil. Was like, well, Kren, she was on Guaya,
Like there's some some amazing shows on Guya. I don't

(40:54):
know that you can blanketly state that that Gaya itself
is bad. So I'm just asking how is your How
is your?

Speaker 2 (41:02):
I know, yeah, I mean I thought there's I mean
it was great, it was fine.

Speaker 4 (41:07):
I mean, you're only there. I'm only there to talk
to George. I mean they gave me like some freak.
I mean there's a makeup artist.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
That was fun. But you know, I don't go too deep.
I'm just wherever I show up, I'm just grateful for it.

Speaker 4 (41:19):
And and also like I think, when you think of
any organization, you show me that whose hands are clean?

Speaker 2 (41:24):
For SUREOD And so I'm just.

Speaker 4 (41:28):
I assume that there's always a shadow wherever we go,
and it's just whether or not people can deal with
their shadow. So again, I really want to know some details,
but I don't.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
Know any details. I just know a random Facebook posts
like that, people comment or whatever, Yeah comment.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
I definitely wouldn't put it past any organization to just
get weird at some point.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
But I just feel like.

Speaker 4 (41:55):
They have a lot of different content, different athors, and
so just to stay up link statement about whoever is
working there or whatever. It's just it's rude really for
all of us, because the bad seeds can make an
entire organization look bad.

Speaker 1 (42:09):
Yeah, yeah, they have a lot of great content and
uh and especially your interview on on the interviews that
you did with with Gaya in the program there and
the Yeah, I believe it was on the Gaya because
George interviewed you there too. You talked about the bird
miracle that Aaron just brought up the other day. Do

(42:30):
you want to do you want to go into a
little bit of detail about that crazy like first experience.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
Yeah, that's what got me into it, and that's what
made me take a risk to to buy my first
really expensive retreat. I was, I'm just trying to get
plugged in just to make sure I was going through
a really hard period and at the time, I was

(42:57):
drinking probably about a fifth of tequila read a couple
of days, and just working my socks off full time
because like I said, we were in the process of
divorcing and stuff and or thinking we might divorce. So
I was like, I better get my tail into high gear.
So I was burning the candle at both ends. And
prior to that, I was a full full time mom.

(43:18):
So it was real like intense. All this mom guilt
and just in general just a general self feeling of
self loathing was massive, and I had a friend who
bought me an angel reading because it was my birthday,
so she didn't know I was struggling. But I went

(43:40):
to this angel reading.

Speaker 2 (43:41):
The lady.

Speaker 4 (43:44):
After the session. First of all, I felt so much
better at the end of the session. But at the
end of the session, she told me, she said, you
have a lot of angels with you, and they want
to talk to you, and so talk to the angels
as if they're real and see what happens.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
And I was like, okay.

Speaker 4 (43:59):
So then a few days later, I mean, first of all,
the synchronicity started happening. You know, the angel synchronicities. We
all know those ones. But then yeah, it was like
like on day three, I was driving through the hood
in LA going to a client's house. I used to
help save kids off the streets, like gangs, gang kids
and stuff. And it's like me, yeah, like little little streets.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
I still love them cubs. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
So, I mean, the sweetest kids ever, always right, But
the system isn't so kind, is it. So we do
our best to keep those kids contained out of jail
and go into their homes and stuff. So I was
driving through the hood and it was broad daylight. I

(44:48):
as I drove down, I saw a bird sloped down
in front of my car just and it bounced, and
it was so jarring because the vibe. But I was
cultivating after a couple of days of talking to angels.
I was feeling lifted, already feeling a weird connection. And
like I said, it was all new to me, so

(45:09):
I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
I just for me.

Speaker 4 (45:11):
It was just an experiment. I'm just experimenting. But up
to that point it had just been seen chronicities, so
there's still room for doubt. Again, I'm a very practical person,
grounded person, therapist, so you know it's going to take
a lot to convince me of stuff. So then the
bird lands, and I'm like, I don't know what to
do with dang birds on the street in the middle

(45:32):
of the hood. But I felt so bad because as
I drove around it, it had a broken wing and
I could see it like kind of scooting around in circles,
And so I decided to ask the angels to help
take it out of its suffering. It's probably my first
prayer for something else or someone else. And I drove
around it and as I looked in the mirror in

(45:53):
the rear view mirror, I saw the birds start shimmering
on the ground, and I watched with my eyeballs that bird,
A tiny bird jumped up from the body of that
bird and flew away, and then a second did, and
then a third one. And I remember this one kid
was a little darker than the other two and a

(46:14):
little more wobbly. It just seemed like the runt of
the of the three. And it it flew off too.
It took it a second, but eventually it flew off.
And so when I saw the saw what was left
on the ground, the total the whole bird had it
was gone. So it transformed into three and flew away.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (46:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
And then I was like, well, maybe I.

Speaker 4 (46:38):
Want to get out of the car this time, just
to make sure, And so I did. The bird was gone,
and I saw what I saw, and I think I
could have probably talked myself out of maybe I just
made that shit up in my mind, But it was
the feeling that was there. The presence was very palpable.

Speaker 2 (46:57):
The love was on high.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
And that's really the moment that I knew that I
had just been witnessed something that is extraordinary. And that
is the day that really was really game changing for me,
and that's why I was willing to advocate for like
maybe maybe I should learn a little bit about angels,
because like God, it's really powerful. It's not just the

(47:22):
I didn't realize how much this stuff was real. I think,
like we all know read books right about, we're reading
the Bible, We're reading you know, little things like this
and that and that and dipping our toes into all
these pots and thinking about it in theory. But that
stopped the conversation about is it true?

Speaker 2 (47:41):
Is it not true? Hmm? I wonder into it's true, and.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
It's no one can take that away when you know
it's it's not a belief system, it's just this, this
stuff is real, and so I felt compelled to learn
everything I could about it. And it's really like how
it changed me.

Speaker 2 (48:00):
That was the biggest miracle.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
I think. You know how when the spirit comes, it
s wounds you and then you do die, and you
know my wish. I always say, like my wish because
I wanted to die like every day for most of
my life, especially from the age of sixteen on. And
on that day I finally got my wish right. But
it wasn't in the way that I was that.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
I thought, yeah, yeah, yeah, Jesus says you must lose
your life in order to find it, and that's those
who die or those who are able to truly live
once you die.

Speaker 5 (48:32):
I think that's my shirt.

Speaker 1 (48:34):
Okay, so so yeah, you may. She designed a T shirt.
So we got these searts for sale.

Speaker 5 (48:39):
But she has got a big vulture on it.

Speaker 2 (48:43):
You guys are into vultures too, Now.

Speaker 1 (48:46):
Well, we're into the eagle. Was getting straight. We'll get
into the eagle because it's in the Bible. The vultures
aren't in the Bible Bible that much until we found
out that the word eagle in the Bible is really vulture.
No joy really oh and listened.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
By the way, I'm shocked, but not shocked.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Yeah, I know, right me. Yeah. At that point we
were like, it was an amazing, amazing epiphany. But it's
like looking at all the ministries and stuff that were
into the prophetic and seeing from a bird's eye view,
and so like the eagle is the symbol for the prophetic,
which is like the Christian psychic if you will, you know,
spiritual gifts and being able to see what's the second sight.

(49:30):
But and they get a lot of scriptures from the Bible.
But it was like, yeah, they don't they don't even
know that the word literally it means like vulture. And
so so that's when we when you look at Egypt
and why it's a symbol of eternal, eternal life and
everlasting life and resurrection life. It makes perfect sense. And

(49:54):
so that you know, the vulture was definitely and you know,
demonis for the Christian. We don't want that. We want
the ego, the pleasant ego and the dove, oh the dove,
and listen, shout out to the ego. Shout out to
the dove. We love them. But uh, but it's something
about those who are attracted to the things that you
don't like and the things that you have given up
on and the things that have decayed over time and

(50:17):
the things that you just threw away. There's something that
comes and makes purpose and makes something out of nothing.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
And uh.

Speaker 1 (50:23):
And and that's that's what what God. That's what nature does.
And God is in nature, right, He uses nature. She
she is nature, right, she has a name, and and
we're all a part of this ecological kingdom that that
that Jesus says. Listen, it's closer than you think, what's

(50:43):
it gonna look like when it comes, Dear Jesus, He's like, well,
if you think it's coming, you've already missed it because
it's here exactly. That's how I feel.

Speaker 4 (50:53):
I mean, you guys, because for people who don't know
Casakondor and the house that I own, and it's called
Kasa Kandor, and the it's you know, Condor is also
a vulture, right, it's a different kind of vulture. But
the how boy, did I like what you're describing with

(51:14):
the eagle and the vulture is like, I know that,
but from experience since I moved up there. And the vultures,
I mean they, I mean when I'm opening ceremonies sometimes
they'll come and circle around us. They'll come and swoop
down us when and I mean it's it's really and
I'll open up a new direction and then the vultures

(51:36):
will come and go in that direction. And to us,
that bird is the most sublime and sacred right now
because it is a death eater. It'll come and just
eat and transform our darkest, deadest parts that we're having
a hard time dropping that corpse like a vulture can
come and let me get that for you. Yeah, it's disgusting,

(51:57):
but I love disgusting.

Speaker 1 (51:58):
I'm here for it exactly. There's certain beings that that
eat disgusting. There's certain people that eat disgusting, you know
what I'm saying. Like we're from the South, We're from
you know, mudbugs and catfish and pig feet, and like
that's what we grew up on, all that kind of stuff,
right and like this at this moment, I don't eat
that anymore. But there was a people it's a delicacy

(52:20):
to them. There's people like that, but but they're they're
there are angels who operate that way as well. There
are supernatural life forms that would gladly take take those
things that that you don't want anymore. Gladly take your hatred,
Gladly take your racism, gladly take your you know, your anxiety,

(52:43):
Like give them that stuff. Don't carry that. You were
not designed to carry that stuff and worry about these bills.
You have a desire to experience something, and it's good.
Lean into that. Whatever stands in the way, give it,
give it to God, and keep giving it to God,
and you'll find that his angels and his helpers come
to take that stuff and carry it away. Just it's

(53:04):
a process. Do you do it once? It's not a
one time thing. The scripture talks about we die daily.
This is a proces. Death is a process that you
may die, that you may truly truly live.

Speaker 4 (53:18):
Yes, yes, I mean I love I love that I
loved it. I love that you're talking about that because
I was. Over the last three years, I've I feel
like it's been a kind of a really a communion
with death, with the spirit of death, and really understanding
just the incredible compassionate spirit of it. And I guess

(53:43):
just getting so close with the land and the birds
and the ancestors and all of that. It's again to me,
it's one of these missing traditions and rites that we
were disrupted from. Are learning about the portal of death
in a healthy way and being able to really, I mean,
you cannot fully celebrate life, I feel until you've really

(54:07):
gotten looked death in the face like this and seem
like God like, what a blessing it is, What an
incredible opportunity to be alive because you know, in connection,
because now I'm very connected also with the ancestors as well.
They're dancing literally over then they're like, what are you

(54:29):
guys doing?

Speaker 2 (54:30):
And by the way, we're not the dead ones. You
guys are Wow.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
You know, I was just we like to interpret that.
We like to just reimagine the Bible from different perspectives,
you know, and say, you know, what if we didn't know,
Like what if there's something that's different, What if we've
missed something Because we go around like experts thinking we're
experts of theology and of vacant texts and stuff, and
so we were talking about yesterday, I just had this thought,

(54:56):
you know it, like there's this thing about like contact
the dead, and Christians are scared of like contacting the dead,
and it's like you shouldn't contact the dead, and there's
rules about it, and the dead know nothing and all
of these things. And so they read that and they
interpret that as far as them talking to their great

(55:17):
grandmother who passed away, like they shouldn't try to talk
to their great grandmother who's gone. But what if you've
missed the shoe. What if that's the angel's rule to
for you? What if you are the valley of the shadow?
What if we are in the land of the dead
and they have rules and regulations about how they got
to operate around us. Like I'm just saying, what if.

(55:39):
It's not until you're able to reimagine and reinterpret some
of these things, until they start to make sense, when
you're able to see them in a different light. So
it's like, what if the shoe is on the other foot,
Like you know, what if Jesus was What if the
gods were told not to answer your prayers because you'll
try to manipulate them, and we do. There's people who

(56:02):
as soon as they find out somebody is an angel
or somebody's walking in power, they're here to extort it.
They're here to use and abuse it for for their
gain only, right, it's not for the betterment of humanity.
And so we have to start looking at these things differently.
And once you look at them differently, you'll find that
they look at you differently as well.

Speaker 4 (56:25):
It's true, I mean, it's there's so much learning if
we just keep an open mind. Right.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
If I don't know nothing, I'm just talking Aaron knows everything.
No no, no, no, don't want she being quiet listen
to to I can't. I can't hold my mouth shut.
That's not she got over here walking in wisdom with
the T shirt.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
I love it.

Speaker 5 (56:50):
I love all of it. I'm excited. I'm excited to
meet you in person.

Speaker 3 (56:54):
Oh me too, I'm excited to get out there in
nature and meet some new some new nature.

Speaker 4 (57:00):
It's yeah, totally. Yeah, just making allies wherever we go, right,
making new allies.

Speaker 5 (57:06):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
It's a it's a different energy. Man, like folks who
think they haven't figured out like and I'm and I say, folks,
I'm talking about me. You know what I'm saying, Like, oh,
I know what the you know what it's like. And
you get out there, It's like, man, this is I
could never like this is intense, you know what I'm saying, Like,
the energy is intense, especially being around when we talk

(57:30):
about it in an idea in theory, but when you
get out there, like I remember we went. We was
in Colorado going up the mountain. What mountain was it
Pikes Peak? Yes, going up Pike's Peak. And we're getting
closer to the beings that I've been filming from.

Speaker 5 (57:49):
Like nine thousand feet below yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:52):
Below sea level and stuff. And I bet because we're
down here in the swamp, you know. And then we're
going up the mountain getting closer, and I'm like, oh
my god, like like I'm getting I could feel their
aura and it's not from a spectator. It's like, oh,
this is what you've been you know, taking pictures of.
This is what you've been wanting to know. You're coming

(58:12):
up here to our necklawards. So now I'm like, I
don't know if I need to be up here, Like
this is holy like you read in the scriptures though,
like there was the same type of reference. Not anybody
could just go up the mountains and commune with the gods.
You had to be invited. So thank you for inviting
this Korean. Yeah, I am not coming up there on

(58:33):
my own, but listen, my own free will. We have
been invited to come up the mountain.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
Yeah. Yeah, Oh that's so interesting.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Yeah, I mean it's yeah, there's just yeah, there's so
much for us to learn and to experience, and I
really do. I just feel so incredibly blessed that I
was able to acquire this place. It was beyond reason
what I thought I could afford. And but I guess,
like where there's a where there's a volition and a

(59:03):
little light dose of insanity, amazing things happen, you know. Yeah,
But sometimes I walk around and I see people just
enjoying themselves up on the porch that faces the mountain,
and sometimes they're like dancing or laughing, and I just
couldn't haven't imagined anything more beautiful than what happens. Just

(59:28):
the people to come are just so just ready to
just get over it, you know, just get over or
whatever they're saying. Oh yeah, sure, they're ready to just
be less grips and just ready for some real real
connection like with themselves, with spirit and really with each other. Yeah,
trying to get there. They're exhausted from the trip. They're
just like, I'm done fighting. I'm ready to just surrender,

(59:51):
you know.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Yeah. I mean just the conversations that people have genuinely
are are like a encounter and experience in in itself
for you and then for you as a facilitator to
step back and just watch the people do what they
do and like meet new friends and stuff and find
and they can let their freak flag fly where they

(01:00:13):
can be themselves and they don't have to be proper
and they can talk about whatever it is and not
be looked at crazy. Like that energy is so freaking
magical and it's like it touches me to like I
feel like like the creator that gives me just like
this little nudge be like, man, listen, if you wouldn't
have said yes, like, none of this would be happening.
So every single I've been doing it for years, even

(01:00:34):
from just like little prayer meetings or something like that,
or being for all these people who don't know each other,
but now they're like, you know, crying together and sharing
stories and best friends and stuff and they felt alone
or maybe they could just do it on the internet,
but then they're doing it in person. There is nothing
like it. There's nothing like meeting our community, being able

(01:00:56):
to hug hug these guys and gals who part of
our community for years and stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:01:02):
And I know it's not the.

Speaker 4 (01:01:03):
Best, that's just it's the best, right when you finally
get to meet the heads that you've been talking to
on zoom.

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:01:10):
I mean I have been known to like, you know,
just pummel them with with love, you know, just wrestle
them all.

Speaker 1 (01:01:17):
Pick somebody up. I was like, oh, it was head
like a tree.

Speaker 4 (01:01:23):
Like I'm just like I'm and I'm just gonna I'm
gonna be like a cupola and I'm just gonna climb
right up you it's inappropriate.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
But yeah, some time, so we were at the corn
concert and uh, we went backstage to hang out with Brian, right, yeah,
we went backstage to hang out with Brian, and like
afterwards or whatever, he's like getting his people and as
soon as I see him, we're pick him up. But
the way his security was looking at me, I wasn't

(01:01:50):
even thinking about it until I like I grabbed, grabbed
him and just scooped him up. And he's way bigger
than me, calling me, but the security way he's looking
at me, He's like, no, no, these are my people,
the every okay man.

Speaker 5 (01:02:02):
You almost.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
You're about to pop them over your shoulder and take them,
steal them.

Speaker 1 (01:02:07):
Yeah, yeahs like security and he's like no, no, no,
they're they're cool with us, They're with us.

Speaker 4 (01:02:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:15):
Yeah, remember that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
You know. I was going to ask you guys, because
you know, part of what we talk about for the
retreat is we talk about ecstatic communion and we talk
about you know about that and I'm still like learning,
i mean just through experience, what what what some of

(01:02:37):
that is? But I'm wondering, like what can you share
with with these folks about your guys' experience or definition
Because we called this you know, we mentioned the word
communion in the title, and there's a difference between communication
and communion.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
So and we mean it, we mean communion.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
And first of all, before we get there, I do
want to say that for those of you who know
about the integration that I had with Condor Spirit and
with the Allies and ancestors, and how this had to
recover from my identity breakdown, it was like an ego,
just a personality breakdown for a few months. Truth Seekert

(01:03:21):
was having a similar experience at the same time.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
No, I wasn't.

Speaker 2 (01:03:28):
Light pants, but he was at the same time, And so.

Speaker 4 (01:03:32):
This was communion. This is part of the communion at
different levels, right, I'm going I just had another recent
one that's a totally different texture, but.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
And it probably linked a little bit, linked together to
some degree, because I feel like.

Speaker 2 (01:03:47):
I did too, Were you recently?

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
Yeah? Oh one, I just I'm a little bit you know,
I have to watch how I talk about it kind
of thing, and you probably you probably feel the same way.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Yeah, maybe we should, Well we'll sidebar, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:03):
Person, yeah, yeah, yeah, I've been I let a little
bit out here and there, but it's like part of
it is like, okay, we let you spill the beans, now,
can you can you be quiet a little bit?

Speaker 4 (01:04:14):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:04:14):
And we're kind of testing me to see if I can.
I'll say that maybe I said too much by saying that.
I'm sorry. I don't know. No, I don't think so,
I don't think so. Okay, I just got to make
sure I'm good. Like you know, how it is.

Speaker 2 (01:04:26):
I'm curious. Yeah, I just yeah, I'm just.

Speaker 1 (01:04:28):
Uh, it was yeah, it's do what you're about to do.

Speaker 4 (01:04:33):
Yeah, I'm just tenough exactly. I don't know if it's
the down because it seems that it's. It's still it's
still an integration process. I'm still catching up with.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
All all of that. And you know how it goes.

Speaker 4 (01:04:48):
You you have your integration, you have your awakening quote
unquote moments, but it takes a while to really unpack
the some of the lessons. And I'm i'm I'm my
physical body has changed. It's changing. It's changed because of
because of this and so far and so yeah, it's

(01:05:09):
it's it's interesting what's.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Going on here.

Speaker 4 (01:05:13):
But but yeah, communion, we mean it. And I'm saying
that because I don't know if I would in the
title collaborate with anyone else and use that word unless
I know that there's been there's a communion there, because
to me, it's very sacred and it's not just the

(01:05:33):
word you throw around, and it's not what we think,
what we think of, and just owning that in the
title is very much the nature of what I like
to open up for people.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
This powerful.

Speaker 4 (01:05:49):
Whatever you want to call it. So let's with that,
tell us what communion is from your perspective.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
So from my perspective, my perspective of communion has changed
a lot in the past year. Coming from the church world.
They would sit you down, pass out the communion, which
is the bread and the wine or the you know,
wafers and the juice, and everyone is supposed to sit
and basically do like a life review and think about
all the things you've done wrong, all the people you

(01:06:18):
haven't forgiven, the people you got mad at, the mean
words you said. You know, whatever sin you have in
your life, you're supposed to muster it up and think
about it and try to make it right before you
accept the communion.

Speaker 5 (01:06:31):
Because there's a scripture that says.

Speaker 3 (01:06:35):
If you eat or drink of the communion unworthily, then
you are eating and drinking condemnation upon yourself. So that's
the whole point to sit and do the life review.
But I was shown, like to sit there and wallow
in all of the things that I mean, I mean

(01:06:58):
God doesn't hold this stuff against you. Yes, there are
lessons to be learned. Yes, a life review can be
very good, like I think people should do a life review,
But to sit at the moment where you are partaking
of Christ, which is what it is in the church.
And Christ is not only in the church, guys, like

(01:07:19):
he is in all and through all and good experiences,
in the bad experiences, in the hardest places you've ever been.
If you thought He wasn't there, he was there like
always with you. And He is this beautiful, beautiful, shining
heart energy like pure love, unconditional love. And to sit

(01:07:44):
and like wallow in your sin, I feel like I.

Speaker 5 (01:07:47):
Was shown that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:50):
You're eating and drinking it unworthily, that you need to
stand in your worth, that you need to stand side
to side with Christ, and you know, be thankful and
be laughing and joyful and gracious that we get to
partake of this amazing divine frequency, this love, unconditional love energy,

(01:08:11):
even if we don't feel like we deserve it, that
we are fully partakers of it, that we are worthy,
we're not eating and drinking it unworthily, that we are
coirs and co habitators with Christ and the Christ's energy.

Speaker 5 (01:08:27):
And so I was able to take communion.

Speaker 3 (01:08:31):
With joy and gratitude, which it I mean, they call
it the Eucharist, and Eucharist means gratitude. That's what the
Greek bird means.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
Yeah. So yeah, so it's like partaking and not just
like you know, woe is me, and partake like the
woe is me? You didn't like you just don't lie,
you did that before you got there, right, So we
come together to find gratitude, like let's find something to

(01:09:02):
be thankful for. And so, you know, with with a
communion aspect, it's like remembering Christ that knew your that
you were worthy, that believed in you and believes in you,
and and it sees worth in you.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
I mean, it is literally imbibing the divine essence of God,
of pure unconditional love into your body, Like what more
joyful grateful thing could we possibly experience than to you know,
integrate that love into ourselves and then be able to

(01:09:43):
give it to others.

Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
Like communion is. Communion is co union, co union with
the divine being one with Christ, the divine part of
the gods is now like you're a part of that.
You are co heirs with that energy that that was

(01:10:07):
sent from the beginning and is now here in this form.
So becoming aware of that and just simply saying thank you, yeah,
like that's and like that's you know, that's gratitude. It's like, man,
thank you, Like and that's just that's just where you start,
you know what I'm saying. That's not where we where
we end, but that's where we start. And it's a

(01:10:29):
beautiful place to start.

Speaker 4 (01:10:31):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
We we pray and things, but the most the best
prayer that that we can teach people to pray is
just simply just say thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
Yeah, oh that's so sweet.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Just say thank you. Just thank you for the breath,
thank you for the thank you for the hardship, thank
you for the trial, thank you for the moments the time.
Just listen before I go, let me say thank you
before I breathe. My last breath. Did I say thank
you when I'm gazing at the stars and they blink
at me? Man, listen, I got one prayer. I can
think of elaborate prayers to get them to come down

(01:11:04):
and all kind of stuff, but it's just a hey,
thank you. Yeah, in cause I'm telling you what. They
echo the same thing back to you. No no, no,
no no no no no no, thank you for doing
what you like.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
Back and forth. No, thank you, thank you first, like
a love best.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
That's that's that's communion, Yes, communion, it really is. It's
it's a co union.

Speaker 4 (01:11:27):
It's to me, it's it's sweet, it's tender, it's it's like,
I mean, it depends on what what experience, but that
bringing the energy of just this heart that is so penetrable,
so vulnerable, so stripped down, childlike humble, I guess. But

(01:11:51):
like I find myself walking my property and just I'll
just like buckle sometimes I'll just buckle like my knees
and I'll just go into just tears and gosh, there's
always just people watching, you know, but what if there's
no one watching, like you don't just to let ourselves
just get so stripped down outside not poised at all.

(01:12:14):
Just honest, you know, just honest. So I find that
the new qualities of the heart that I are emerging
for me and also for a lot of my community.
They are getting so much more sensitive, but not in
a weak way, but like in a really fierce way,

(01:12:35):
like almost the more tender that you become, the more
powerful you feel, the more insulated, I guess, shielded. Wow, communion,
you know, and you know, I can just definitely testify
we do not have to think we're worthy, Like, we
don't have to feel feel like we're worthy.

Speaker 2 (01:12:55):
We don't have to we don't have to.

Speaker 4 (01:12:59):
Yeah, because every time these things have happened to me,
it's often been in some of the worst challenging times
where I'm being less devout than I should be in
my mind, less in my mind. Yeah, but spirit doesn't
care about that. Sometimes spirituist is here to show up
when we need it most, to remind us, you know.

(01:13:21):
So communion to me, it's an imbibing in the body.
It's like the symbol of taking the bread. That's that's
what it feels like when it's spontaneously the communion is
spontaneously happening. It is the body comes inside and your
body feels the presence and it for me just gets

(01:13:42):
animated by it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:43):
Oh yeah, No, it's a it's a recalibration of who
you really are, beyond the ego, but beyond the facade
that that you've built up or what people have told
you you are, what you think life is, and the
matrix and reality and what really matters. All that stuff

(01:14:03):
comes into alignment, and there's a recalibration that happens when
you come into that presence. And it's very simple, and
when you could do it with bread and wine, or
you could do it with the breath and the voice
and just say thank you. And so let's just do
it right now, just for a moment, because this is simple.
It's just simple as what we teach is a three

(01:14:23):
part breathing. It's to breathe in really deep through the nostrils,
three two to one breathing, and at the peak of it,
just say thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you
to the creator and then exhale through the mouth, letting
go of all the stress, all the junk. Blow it
out if you need to. It's like some of y'all
need to blow it ain't just a little just exhale.

(01:14:46):
You need to who I've been going through it, put
you back into it, guys. Yeah, and then do it again,
three two one, breathing really deep, and it's just the same.
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you, and release everything,
not serving you because they'll take it. They'll take it,
they'll take it. Release it, give it away. That's simple.

(01:15:10):
That's communion. That's just to say thank you and uh.
And a lot of times there's a feeling that comes
with this. If you're looking forward, if you lean into it,
there's a little bit of a wind that kind of
you feel like a wind moves down your body. There's
a little chill. There's a little euphoria that comes upon
you when you move your heart into gratitude because your
your heart may have been sitting in the in the

(01:15:32):
gall of bitterness. You know you could have been in
this place of what where you weren't thankful. And then
immediately you're like, man, what was I thinking? I should
have been dead years ago? I've been giving the second
chance at life and the third and fourth and fifth chance.
I'm still here. There's air and opportunity here for me.
Somebody believes in me, even though I might not believe

(01:15:53):
it myself. The creator, whoever's breathing this breast back to
me and allow me, allowing me to in hell, allow
my heart to keep beating this drum beat to keep going.
I'm still here. There's hope, it's opportunity. And for that
we just say thank you, thank you, thank you. Man.
Start there and then and then I'd like to teach

(01:16:15):
people to move out. Just start moving out to other
things in your life. Man, This little dog sitting next
to me, Man, thank you for this little guy. I
love my little dog. He's a comforter man. Yeah, he's
the absorber man. He knows how to comfort, he knows
how to he knows how to make your laugh, he
knows how to make your smile. He's a he just cute.
The look at you, just look at him, and and

(01:16:36):
suddenly everything's okay. You know. Man, God, thank you for
my dog. Thank you for my wife, thank you for
just move out. Thank you for my trial, Thank you
for my demons that came to shake me up and
hit me a couple times in the stomach and then
hit me in the chin one time and wake me up.
I just need to be I said, I wanted awakening.
I didn't know it came in that shape or form.
But thank you for these these figures in our lives

(01:16:59):
which are angelic.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
And something something I want to say about that is like,
we're not taught to actually receive after you pray. We're
not people pray but they don't stop and yeah, receive.
We're not used to receding back. We're used to it's
always being this one way thing like, Hey, I'm going
to pray and then I'm done. I've done my prayer right.

(01:17:23):
But if people really take a moment and do whatever
practice you're going to do, whether it's the breath work
or even right now, and you intend, you say to God, Okay,
I'm ready to feel you now. I'm ready to bring
it in. I'm ready to taste you, I'm ready to
breathe you, I'm ready to feel you. I'm ready to
sing you. I'm ready, you know, and you just get

(01:17:45):
into your swoon. But we're so used to pushing love away.
Sometimes we push the big one away to ye, it just.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
Takes a moment. It's just a moment. It's a quickening,
it's in a it's a it's a divine suddenly, it's in,
it's in. It's it's a it's an you know, we
close the door, we kind of go through our list
and what we need and what we want and you
know who needs man? When I go when? When when

(01:18:15):
we go in deep? The spirit says this, you know
the first time we went in, like I went in
really deep with the community. And it's still it still
echoes us to me, it's like, oh, we go in
like beyond the veil into the holy place where you're
just like oh okay, and they're looking around, like I
can feel them watching me and they're like, oh, another human,

(01:18:36):
what do you want? What do you want? You need
to do you need a bill paid? Is that why
you hear? Humans only come here when they want their
bills paid? They hear when they want somebody healed? Who
do we need to heal?

Speaker 4 (01:18:47):
You know?

Speaker 1 (01:18:47):
Who do you? And so I knew it was like
a double edged sword. It was a it was an
entendrum of like you better not. It's like, I know
this was for me to ask a question and to
reflect because they know it what I want. But it's
from my response and my heart position to quickly change.
He said, I don't want anything like I did want something.

(01:19:09):
You know, I came because I wanted something, but it's whole.
I just want to say hello. I just want to
say hi and just say hello. And it's like, okay,
now you okay, next time, just come to say hello
and we'll greet you. I just started crying and just weep.
And it's like, you know, God's got a lot of followers.
God's got a lot of pastors, a lot of preachers,
a lot of Shimans, a lot of holy people. God

(01:19:32):
don't have a lot of friends. You know, I just
want to come and hang out. I just want to
say hello. I didn't want nothing. You know, you got
people that call you and say, ah, they want something
you already know for you answers.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
They just want to complain. They just want to complain
about something.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
Complain or they want a few dollars from you or something.
And so God's the same way. They got my complainer.
They got my few dollars, guy, true seeking my few dollars.
Let me God, let me let me borrow twenty dollars
to the God. I promised I'd been your back.

Speaker 4 (01:20:02):
God.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
You know, it's like you just always want a few dollars.
It's like man, listen, I just want to say thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:20:06):
Bro.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
It's like what a human traveled all. You came all
the way up the mountain. You made it all this
way up the mountain just to say thank you. Yeah,
you're damn right, you damn right.

Speaker 2 (01:20:18):
I think you're pretty thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:20:22):
Thank you to turn around to go back down. You
didn't want nothing, hold on and then you find out
you get a few dollars for that, like you, every
people get healed around you, like everything. Everything's like the
you know, the wrongs become right when the position of
your heart changes. Yeah, and if you can keep that
and maintain it, it is the envy of nations. Man.

(01:20:45):
It's hard, but it's it's the sweet spot.

Speaker 3 (01:20:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:20:50):
So good.

Speaker 4 (01:20:51):
Yeah, it's so good.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
It's so good.

Speaker 4 (01:20:54):
When you run out of prayers, you know, it's just
for yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:20:56):
You're just there because you just love it.

Speaker 4 (01:20:59):
You know, you just you're just showing up because your
heart is compelled to just say hi, Hi, thanks.

Speaker 1 (01:21:05):
Guys it thanks for everything you find out. Like I said,
in your life paying forward signnicities. What was that sign?

Speaker 4 (01:21:13):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
I just saw the sign. What is it? Man? We're
just saying what's up? You know you're on the right path.

Speaker 2 (01:21:18):
Keep it keep it moving, keep going man, keep trucking.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
Yeah, because we know you want to give up. Man,
keep it moving. You're doing good exactly. That's it.

Speaker 4 (01:21:27):
Just because gosh, it's so easy, yeah, so easy to
lose our way to you know, just be so feel disconnected.
A lot of times we feel disconnected and we get
hard on ourselves, like, ah, I've lost my way. But
if you keep your eyes open and you tell yourself,
I'm ready to feel it, I'm ready to see it,
I'm ready to receive it. Whatever you know, the love

(01:21:49):
or whatever you can just see just the benevolence that's
always there, the medicine that's always there. It's pretty amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:21:56):
I'm like, it's just it's just come on you guys,
like we're so Yeah, we're lucky. We're lucky.

Speaker 4 (01:22:02):
Also, it's challenging, you know, like not to diminish the
hard parts of life. It sucks, really sucks, but also
it's amazing. It's amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:14):
Virginia Hiker in the chat says God, thank you for
coffee with angels.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
Thank you for coffee with the angels. Yeah, thanks for
hanging out.

Speaker 4 (01:22:22):
And you know, I was just seeing. I was looking
at the chat and I saw that Tricia, she came
to our property. Was that last year when we had
our uh one of one of those retreats. But she
said a vulture actually pooped on her head. I forgot.
I forgot that, Trisha, But yeah, I was there, pooped
on her head right during ceremony.

Speaker 5 (01:22:42):
They say it's good luck. That's like a common thing.
They say it's good luck when a bird pluck.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
It was like a vulture blessing. I mean, it's better
than eating her carcass, you know, for sure, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:22:54):
It's the best they can do for now, man, for sure,
Like yeah, man, like people, it's just a revelation. It's
a it's an initiation into into life. And then you
like everywhere you look, you see like you see the
cycle of everlasting life. You see the cycle of gratitude.
You see the cycle where it's like there is no

(01:23:16):
end and there is no beginning. It never was there
never will be. And so yeah, your your loved ones
aren't gone, they haven't went anywhere like they're like especially
if like you know to to like our the religious community,
our family, like there is no death like Christ, his
whole story, like we just celebrated Easter. Shout out to

(01:23:41):
ith star. You know, I gotta say it, but it's
it's it's celebrating resurrection, life everywhere, everywhere, And because death
is defeated. Are you You didn't think that you thought
that was the end. No, these molecules they changed, they
become one. They're part of the very fabric of of
this reality, the air that you breathe and the song

(01:24:05):
that you sing.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
That's one of the things I love most about the
Bible is like we've been taught to sometimes we've been
taught to demonize or look down on nature. But the
Bible is full of things that say, just look at nature,
look at the birds, look at the lilies.

Speaker 1 (01:24:20):
And then like and then you don't do what he said,
do and look at the birds.

Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
But if you if you compare yourself to nature, like
you said, you look around and they have all these
cycles where you know, the leaves will die and fall
off the tree.

Speaker 5 (01:24:34):
Well those leaves, those.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
Dead things that no longer serve the tree are fertilizer
not only for the tree, but the next generation of
trees and the mycelium network that connects all the trees.

Speaker 5 (01:24:45):
Together, like the joy, the energy, Like, yeah, those those parts.

Speaker 3 (01:24:50):
That's been a part of my journey is looking back
on the parts of me that died that at first
I'm like.

Speaker 5 (01:24:56):
Oh, how could you? How could she be so stupid?
Like how could you not see?

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
This was here the whole time? But like that that
part of me that died was necessary to fertilize and
fuel the meat that's here now.

Speaker 5 (01:25:10):
And I know that the parts of me now that.

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
Die off and change will transform into the next version
of myself. And you just see it all around you
in nature, but you could you have to see it
reflected in your own life too, that the end is
not the end, it's a new beginning job exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28):
Yeah, I think that, you know, I think one of
the biggest teachings I think over the years of doing
this transformative work with like the beautiful endings, right, the
ways that we can let go of things in reverence
is a lot of us.

Speaker 2 (01:25:46):
Can track.

Speaker 4 (01:25:46):
We can feel this pull when something in our life
is in the process of death, but we don't want
to own it, whether it's a relationship or a friendship
or or I'll set you're living in you know, the
better we can get at letting things die with grace,

(01:26:09):
letting go with grace, with reverence, like letting the relationship
go if it's toxic, but doing it with reverence. There's
such a wonderful like learning that. I because so many
times you want to cling to a turd. We want
to cling to this thing that's like, we're done with it. Okay,
we've ingested it, we've processed it. It's down on the ground.

(01:26:30):
But we want you know, but that's my turn.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
It's all of that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
I know, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:26:35):
And like, you know, our creator has something that's alive
and refreshing that you can and vibe and partake on.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
Or you can keep clinging to the turd.

Speaker 1 (01:26:46):
Yeah, don't, Yeah, don't give it up. Yeah, give that
thing up because something like and and and and it's
a nasty example. But Aaron's going to give you the example. No,
you go. It's a nasty example, but it's in nature.
It's natural like that. How can I it's food for

(01:27:07):
something else, something else eats that, and they need it
to live. If you don't let it go, they die.
And I say you, but if we look at like
I like to look at the angelic as a mirror
as the upper worlds and the lower worlds. So we
can look into to space or into the firmament, and
we see the different densities of beings that operate and travel.

(01:27:30):
And some of them can only go so high. They
can't breathe the ether. They only breathe oxygen. They can't
breathe the ether. And it's same with with you know,
those beings in the ocean. There's fish that are tadpoles
that don't go down to the depths. There's catfish that
don't come up to the light. You know, they stay

(01:27:52):
in the mud. They stay away from the sun. To
look at the sun hurts them to you know, too
much sunlight hurts them sort of a certain brackishness of
water that they live in. And so the fish that
are above them, thriving, the perch and all and many
other fish. When they eat worms and bugs and things,

(01:28:15):
and then they get rid of it, they poop it out.
It falls down to the bottom into the mud. And
the catfish, the crawfish, the shrimp, crabs, the bottom feeders crabs,
they love it. They the pigs they love it. They

(01:28:35):
eat it, they thrive it in this ecosystem of this realm,
and so you have to look at that as going
down within within the bottom of the trenches, but also
going up into the etheric realms as well, because the
angels operate in such a way as well. There's angels
that are that are right here with you and occupying

(01:28:56):
this airspace as we're talking. There's some that are you,
and there are angels that are governing the ones that
are above you that are there's angels and that are
governing your ancestors as they're helping, governing guid to do
their role in in in the next life that still
coincides with this one and above them. And so we're

(01:29:19):
gonna we're gonna, we're gonna gaze, We're gonna ask, you know,
if we can see them, and uh and use our
imaginations and use our smartphones. At the retreat, we're gonna
use those smartphones.

Speaker 4 (01:29:30):
And uh, I'm really looking forward to it because there's
so much deeper teaching around the angels. And then also
it's gonna be fun to actually see them on camera.
I mean, because I know you have photos, I have photos,
but like if we catch some real real time and
to really talk about what we're seeing and to connect
with what we're actually seeing together because.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
We learn so much more well as a group as
we share.

Speaker 1 (01:29:57):
You know, there's so much it will do it all. Well,
I'm not gonna hold back. I'm not gonna hold back.
We're gonna we're gonna do the water, the or the
the divination in the sun with the water. I'm I'm
gonna show you. I'm not gonna We're not gonna hold
anything back. We try to, you know, just depending on
the group and and what's there, Like there's certain there's
certain ways, and you can see different ones in different

(01:30:19):
different ways and uh, and there's so many different ways though,
you know what I'm saying, So and that we salute
everything on one of them and uh and one's not
better than the other, you know, in our opinions. So
we just the fact that we just get the like
what comes forth though, it's like because people like judge
us or whatever, you guys just want to see do
you ever just sit in silence?

Speaker 4 (01:30:39):
No?

Speaker 1 (01:30:39):
No, no, no, no, we totally do. Like this is
how this is how you get to film them. They
have to let you film them, just know that, and
you have to ask and then then then they'll put
on a show for you is what happens? But what
like what is birthed in people? Like songs come out
of me like song like lyrics, cut like down loads,

(01:31:00):
and like because there's a feeling, there's an energy that's birth.
And I'll just I'll go into you know, prophecy mode,
which the ancient prophet they were poets and it began
to write songs and to journal. What's what do you
think the Bible is?

Speaker 4 (01:31:15):
Is?

Speaker 1 (01:31:15):
You know these people? You know Isaiah sixty and eight?
What are these ships that are flying up to the clouds? Please?
Someone tell me why is there nobody who knows what
the hell is going on? Let's put it in a
song because that's the same energy, the same thing that
we're feeling and we're and that's what you feel the
same way and you and you embody it and he's
like you look around it. Sometimes it feels like you

(01:31:37):
can't find nobody who knows what you're going through, who
understands it. And then you find an ancient prophet or
somebody who wrote a book who was a part of
a society, who wrote about all this stuff that you
think that you're the only one experiencing. There's been so
many people come before you who've experienced the same thing,
and you are surrounded by such a great cloud of

(01:31:58):
witnesses who have witnessed the same saying and are now
witnessing you witness them.

Speaker 2 (01:32:04):
Yeah, like all of that phenomenon has not gone away.

Speaker 4 (01:32:07):
It's just it's not It's definitely not new That's That's
one of the things like that when people talk about
this stuff they say it's new age. There's really nothing
new age about it. It's old age. We're just catching
up with it. And it's like I said, I'm excited.
I'm always excited to bring people out there. But you know,
the teachings around really learning how to be and just

(01:32:31):
own your own prophetic nature, own your own ability to
go outside and to read the signs, to really receive
the blessing, the medicine, the teaching, and not just received,
but like be the channel, be the vessel for the
inspiration to move through through the song whatever whatever they

(01:32:52):
want to sing through you true seeker, Right. But I
think it's it's wonderful. It's such a great opportunity for
us to go deep with the angels, but not just
the angels, the mysteries of the angels and what they bring.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
Yeah, speaking of song, we're going to be performing some
songs while we're there. We're going to do a concert,
the True Seeking Aaron Concert. We're gonna We're going to
do that, So there will be some songs coming.

Speaker 2 (01:33:14):
And I'll be your dancer. Can it be your dancing?

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
You have to be, of course, yeah, you have to be.

Speaker 5 (01:33:20):
Maybe a new song will come out.

Speaker 2 (01:33:21):
Yeah, you know, a new song will come out.

Speaker 4 (01:33:24):
When I was asking permission to be your dancer, I
didn't I was going to do it anyway.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
I'm just letting you know what it say. Is better
a big question? Yeah, it's better to ask forgiveness than
it is to ask for permission. Yeah right, no, no,
no no. If you're not dancing, it's awkward. But trust me,
like this is what Yeah, heck yea. Everybody's dancing. It's
the energy and we're going to make everybody feel awkward
for not dancing. So you gotta right to get in

(01:33:52):
there and get it. Yeah, it's so. June twelfth through
the fifteenth, officially the Ritree sixteenth add On Plant Medicine
Ceremony for for those of you who are interested. You've
been asking, been asking asking when is the next retreat
June twelfth through the fifteenth, Karinn. Let them know where

(01:34:13):
they can buy tickets from you we have. We're both
selling tickets because this is a coh we're putting on together.
You're selling tickets on your side. We're selling tickets on
ours for our for our community and stuff. But let
people know who want to come and want to ticket.

Speaker 4 (01:34:29):
You guys can like find it on on you know,
I see a lot of these people are our people
from my list. So it's good to see you guys.
Do yeah, go to Cornbrilla dot com. You'll see it
on the landing page there and just click and please.

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
Come you guys this week.

Speaker 4 (01:34:43):
I hope you can tell this is gonna be a
really special one and it's gonna be fun for us
because I'm gonna I'm gonna pummel you and you you guys,
both of you.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
I'm taking you down.

Speaker 1 (01:34:54):
We're gonna do some okay, we're gonna do a three
way hug and we're gonna hit the ground.

Speaker 4 (01:35:00):
I promise will be rolling around on the ground at
some point. I'm just gonna pummel you guys. I won't
supplex you, but.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
I don't know. I'm a big old love bug, but yeah,
it's gonna be fun.

Speaker 4 (01:35:13):
It'll be fun and really to for us to all
to collaborate right and just channel real time about what
we're feeling right here and just in all of us,
because in my communities, I love to hear from I
think everybody is a wisdom keeper and things are happening
in real time, and I find when people share, we

(01:35:33):
get a clearer picture of the presence.

Speaker 3 (01:35:37):
So yeah, everybody has something to give, Like, even if
you feel like you don't. I feel like almost always
people have this idea or this word that comes to
them that they want to share, but they're like, no, no,
I'm just making it up or whatever. But when everybody
gets on the same page and actually shares what comes
to them, it's magic.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
Man magic, You're magic. I'm so glad.

Speaker 1 (01:35:59):
Yeah, So guys, make sure you go to the website.
You can go to Korengrillo dot com get tickets to
find out more about her work, her podcasts, her community.
She she does a lot, and she's one that we
vouched for. We've been working together for years. You're on
so on Seer School. We got the webinar remember the

(01:36:20):
webinar we did, Like we got a webinar workshop that
we did with the I forgot. We've done so much. Yeah,
we done a lot of We've done so much.

Speaker 2 (01:36:33):
We keep doing, we keep doing stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:36:35):
Right, Yeah, there's so much. You just got to dig
at this point. It's like I've been on your show
like three times, you've been online three.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
You know, we're all like, yeah, we're on coast to coast.

Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
But you know I was, you know, I wrote the
forward to to to one of your books, you know,
Angel Wealth, and you know, at least a forward a
word in there, and what an honor. Thank you for that.
But you know, we've been we've been creating and this
is what creators do. And listen, everybody here who feels
the spirit of inspiration, you're one of us. You're a creator,

(01:37:08):
and the breath of the creator is in you so
that you can breathe out and create something beautiful as well. Yeah,
just say yes, all right, Well, thank you guys for
watching things, for being here with us, anything else.

Speaker 5 (01:37:22):
So don't forget to get your tickets.

Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
They're extremely limited, and we do have early bird pricing
right now, but it's not going to be going on
for more than just a few more days, so you
can go to Corenegrillo dot com.

Speaker 5 (01:37:37):
Or see your dot school. We both have tickets for our.

Speaker 3 (01:37:40):
Community on those sites and we hope to see you
there because it's going to be amazing and magical and
the more the merrier, right.

Speaker 2 (01:37:49):
Oh god, we're having your concert.

Speaker 1 (01:37:50):
Yeah, Like if you guys just want to do this
with us, like this is the thing. We do this
but in a room of people. It's so fun. Yeah,
it's so fun. So shout out everybody, thanks for watching things,
for being here. We love you guys.

Speaker 5 (01:38:05):
Thank you guys for holding down the chat too.

Speaker 1 (01:38:08):
One more time, one more time, everybody lists breathing together,
three to one, breathing deeply, breathing as much as you
can sniff it.

Speaker 4 (01:38:19):
So good.

Speaker 1 (01:38:20):
Thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. In release
all right you know that Priana baby? Yeah, yeah, saloon everybody. Peace, Peace,

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