UFO Highway Above Mount Shasta—What We Saw Was Unreal

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
There's so many different types and so many different kinds
of elementals and angels and ambus and all types of
like sky creatures right above your head twenty four to seven.
So whether you're looking into the sky gazing at the stars,
or there's clouds in the sky. It's so funny that
like I can go out and just kind of look

(00:22):
around and say, Okay, we want to see that. We
need to look into that. See this cloud. This is
what you're looking for here, there's no clouds. Okay, this
is what we're gonna position ourselves and see here. And
like all of these little techniques that we kind of
developed over the year, spending hours and hours of filming
and dissecting the footage. You're at the foot of Mount Shasta,

(00:43):
clear skies, you can see the milky Way, you see
all of the stars, and you see the pinnacle of
the mountain. And then suddenly you look over and there's
a formation of three, four, five lights fixed in this
guy that suddenly started moving across the entire sky, and

(01:04):
then another one comes behind it, going really fast, and
then a shooting star goes this way, all like NonStop.
As long as we wanted to sit out there, and
gaze into the heavens.

Speaker 2 (01:22):
Hey, welcome back to the Truth SEEKA and Aaron podcast.
I'm your host truth Sika.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Yep, and this is true Seek at the female version
of Seka. What's that? Oh my god? That was the intro.
No strings attached, Yeah, no, no, no back siats no
takes these backsies.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, we always swapped the names now tradition.

Speaker 1 (01:49):
No, we don't. I did that once and then you
expect me every time. You do it every time. Well,
ladies and gentlemen, we just got back literally like three
days ago at this point, three days two days ago, Yah,
from our retreat at Mount Shasta.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yeah, Ecstasia Shasta with the great Korean Guerrillalla, amazing angel alchemists.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
It was fun. It's amazing. We're going to go into
some stories. We're going to share our experiences with strange
lights in the sky. We saw so many UFOs or
angels or entities or satellites. Maybe there had to be
some satellites for sure.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Yeah, but what is the satellite?

Speaker 1 (02:38):
Yeah, we should pull up that the ancient picture of
Jesus with the satellite right right. Lights in the sky
are encounters with nature.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Which we had some otherworldly, amazing encounters with nature.

Speaker 1 (02:55):
Maybe they weren't otherworldly. Maybe they're normal.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
That's a good point. Maybe they should be normal.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Maybe they were normal experiences that we started having and
not experiencing them as otherworldly, Like that's not of this world.
This world is supposed to be cohabitation with your furry friends.

Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, I mean I like that.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
I like that feathered friends kind of like an Eden.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
When we all walked together and we all cohabitated together,
there was no fear.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Mm hmm. But then the animals became afraid because of
the fall, when we started eating them.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
And sacrificing them to the gods for the god.

Speaker 1 (03:45):
But then the God said, somewhere in one of those books, said, now,
don't delight in your sacrifices. Why are you killing animals
and giving them to me? Obedience is better than sacrifice.
I never delighted in your sacrifices. Who told you that?

Speaker 2 (04:03):
But in obedience I have to actually do something or
give a part of my self sacrifice. I just sacrifice
another being.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
You want energy, I'll give you the energy of this heifer. Heifer.
That's what happens.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
It does or did?

Speaker 1 (04:23):
That's interesting. They call women heifers, right, that old heifer.
And also and there's something that would sacrifice them to
the gods, right, seems like it first. And also they
sacrificed goats and rams and they call those kids. Yeah,
and also kids, let's don't go there. They would sacrifice
those two, right, living sacrifice.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
Yeah, we've seen the pictures old old ancient prince and stuff.
M I remember seeing one in particular and looking up
the words that was on it.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
That's not right. Shame on you if you're doing that,
and most of you, you know, physically aren't doing it.
Maybe mentally and spiritually you are. Maybe even that, maybe
there's a romanticization of the idea of that's what the
ancients used to do and that's what the gods wanted
them to do. But I'll tell you, I don't think

(05:18):
it's a good God that would have you sacrifice kill
something for them, you know, Yeah, because the like I
don't know, like it's it's the scripture says that we're
living sacrifice. Yeah, you lay down your life, You lay
down your life, not you take the life of something

(05:39):
else so that you can live. Man, Maybe we digress
because they didn't think we were going on that.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Was very deep and dark. So, yeah, animal snow white
moments on normal, getting back to what probably used to
be normal.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
We say all that to say that, Yeah, if that,
if the animals know that you're not going to eat them,
I think they treat you differently.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Yeah, they do.

Speaker 1 (06:07):
I think we're just now starting to see a little
bit more furry friends like opening up to us that
would never come around. Not just us, but that's a
lot of people.

Speaker 2 (06:18):
And yeah, and they start functions like you know, we
see the vultures and we've all honored the vultures now
for at least two years. We have a new appreciation
for them and the way that they spiral in the
sky and they shift the energy and they can even
lift like the heaviness, the heavy energy that rests upon you.

(06:40):
Like they can come, they can sense it. They come
and they circle and they Okay, talk.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
About that, talk about that experience with the retreat, because
we're talking about like us headed to California. We're headed
to Shasta, but at the same time our daughter was
headed to she would have been with us, got out
in Nevea, but she had a concert, a festival. She

(07:07):
was headed to Bonaru.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, she would have chosen to come with us, but
she had already paid for the tickets. By the time
this event was co created with us in Krinn, Karin
already had the dates set, so she wanted to come,
but she already had prior obligations to friends and people
she was traveling with. And we worked for weeks leading

(07:31):
up to her trip because her van needed a lot
of work, and between all of us, especially my dad,
who is a saint, you know, all of us working
together with my dad, were able to get the van fixed.

Speaker 1 (07:46):
She has a nineteen ninety five Chevy g Yeah, it's
a throw back tank of a van like retro. It's
super cool. Yeah, but it if you don't do up maintenance,
up keep on them, they tear it down really quick.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah. And this one had a lot wrong with it,
from the solar energy to the motor to gosh, so
many things. Anyway, it was fixed, everything was working and
working order. She loads up her friends and goes to Tennessee,
like a seven hour drive, and it blows up on

(08:26):
the interstate five hours away from home, and we are
in California. There's nothing we can do to help her
besides try to maybe arrange an Uber or an Airbnb.
We couldn't rent them a car because they weren't old
enough to drive it. None of them but my dad
ended up going to get her. Him and his brother,

(08:48):
my uncle Wesley, loaded up a trailer and they both
drove their trucks, so they left her my dad's truck
and then used Wesley's truck to toe the van home.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
We were at the store, fifteen minutes away from meeting
Karn and some of the staff at Cosa Condor to
be able to meet them in person for the first time,
and we're so excited, they're excited to see us fifteen
minutes away. Then we get this call Neveda crying stranded
on side of the hot interstate, Alabama interstate, crying, freaking out,

(09:24):
and we're supposed to go and be happy. We're excited
to see them, and it's like, there's no way that
we can go there, you know what I'm saying, and
just act like everything's okay and kick it with everybody
when your daughter stranded on side of the interstate. But
then again, not really much we can do but try
to line up some type of uber or something like
that your dad and uncle come through line something up.

(09:48):
They're five hours away to go and pick them up.
But it was still like this.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Before we even got that news. I think is when
we arrived at the retreat space Cosa Condor, and it's
this beautiful, amazing space and we're meeting one of our
favorite people that we've collaborated with over the years, and
this just like you want to put on a smile
because it's such a joyous moment, but then also like

(10:14):
there's this heavy, heavy weight like pressing because you just
your kids. It's something different. It's a different flavor of
worry when you're worried about your children. And it was
cool though, because as soon as we arrived there, that
land has been cultivated and curated and honored, you know,

(10:34):
in such a way that it takes it takes heaviness
and it takes garbage, Like that's what honoring the land does.
The beings that and the spirits that move those heavy
energies away from your body come and they show up.
So it's funny. We arrived, we said hello to Carinne,

(10:56):
and we went out front on the porch, which is
this magnificent view of Mount Shasta from the front porch.
It's an unobscured, pure view of the mountain. There's nothing
between you and the mountain, and the sky's clear. It's
got some clouds in it, but it's beautiful and blue.

(11:18):
And then here they come, the condors, the vultures, they
come spiraling in and and we have a relationship with
them where they we know they take our heaviness. And
so they all, several of them showed up spiraling really close,
wild and just you just felt the shift, the lifting
of that heavy energy. And then it wasn't long after

(11:41):
that I was just crying. I was just releasing because
it just needed to happen. And then not long after
we got the news my dad was on his way
to rescue our daughter. I got such a good dad,
you do, and I do too.

Speaker 1 (11:59):
He's my dad too. Yeah, you know, he's yeah, super super.
He already went above and beyond and thought he got
the rest of like working his butt off with the
van and then to have to go get throw it
back five hours.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
You know, fine masculine at work.

Speaker 1 (12:19):
He's the best, selfless, he's a good guy. He's a
good gay. So yeah, the birds, and you know, honoring
them back in relationship with them, like they serve a purpose,
and it's a spiritual purpose to honor them and see
them for the way that God created them and to

(12:40):
experience that. And and we totally experienced it. And that
was just a beautiful moment for them to come down
and cover directly above us. And we started the retreat
off right. We had an amazing retreat. Again, We're gonna
go into some more stories of these stars and UFOs

(13:01):
and the magical moments with the animals, and there were
so many different types of animals. We got to go
see the Redwoods. We'll share some of those stories and stuff.
But first, I hope this is building some type of
expectation because we do have another retreat already planned and
already set up. So the retreat is going to be
October the second through the fifth in Anderson, South Carolina.

(13:27):
We're going back to Anderson, ladies and gentlemen, and you
can join us. You can come and kick it with
some mystics. So everything that we've done, everything that we've
been doing, we've kind of been learning from day one
of all of these retreats that we've been doing for
years to find out what creates a beautiful experience, what
creates an immersive experience for everybody and for ourselves as

(13:50):
well as we go in as seekers but also as
leaders and stewards of this sacred energy and of these encounters.
But the main thing is for us to go in
and have an encounter ourselves and just take people with us.
It's always been the heartbeat of it and it still

(14:11):
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Speaker 3 (14:28):
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Speaker 1 (15:34):
Yeah. This is for those balling on a budget, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, but it's not going to be a budget experience.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
It's going to be all you know, that's the name
of the retreat.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Balling on a budget.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Balling on a budget with having.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
A budget, right for sure, that's why smart.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
Maybe I need to learn to have a budget. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
We picked up some new sound equipment that we're going
to include with our sound baths and stuff at Mount Shasta,
at the Town of Shasta, so that'll be fun too.
Bring some new energy and we have a gong now
that we didn't bring last time we went to South Carolina,
so that'll be fun.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Yeah, We've got a ton of stuff. It's gonna be amazing.
So yep, get tickets. We'd love to see there. Imagine this,
You're at the foot of Mount Shasta, sitting on the
doorsteps and sitting laying on your back in the yard
and looking up clear skies, you can see the Milky Way,

(16:35):
you see all of the stars, and you see the
pinnacle of the mountain. And then suddenly you look over
and there's a formation of three, four, five lights fixed
in the sky that suddenly started moving across the entire sky.
And then another one comes behind it, going really fast,

(16:57):
and then a shooting star goes this way, all like
NonStop as long as we wanted to sit out there
and gaze into the heavens at Mount Shasta, and people
were like blown away, right, and it was kind of
you know, they were asking like is this normal and

(17:18):
h and some people were like, no, this isn't normous,
Like no, this kind of is kind of is normal
if you will sit back, let your eyes adjust, spend
a few moments steady the mind, center the heart, and
just ask you know kind of thing. And we just
saw so much in the sky. It was like a

(17:39):
super highway in the night sky.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
But even arriving in Oregon, you know, taking those moments
at night to go outside and look up. We're in
the city, you know, we're not super close to the mountain.
Although the whole area we visited was beautiful, but there's
a lot of light pollution and stuff, and we were
just giving a moment to say thank you and to
look at the sky. And we saw so much even

(18:05):
in Medford, Oregon before we traveled down to Shasta. Yeah,
every night that we intentionally went out with gratitude and
awe and wonder and love, we saw movement, cool things.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
Yeah, we saw the two that we saw light up
really bright and travel together. I got of nowhere was
super cool for us to see.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
Because we've seen it before, Like the same type of lighting,
same type of power up and movement with the two.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
That was in or Yeah Medford, Okay, Yeah, we got
to say some cool airbnbs and stuff, And I mean,
this is something we do a lot, but it's it's
something we have a lot of success with and but
you're always seeing different types of aerial phenomena. You're seeing

(18:59):
things at night. Obviously a big part of my story
is when I started seeing things during the day. And
one of the big reasons that Karen wanted us to
come to the retreat is she wanted me to host
a workshop teaching people how not only to see these
celestial beings and angels, but also how to film them

(19:21):
because I've gotten pretty good at filming them, capturing them
on camera, and then knowing how to edit the footage
that where they pop and actually come out where you
can see them. A lot of them are like camouflaged.
They're like irridescent and translucent, but they're but you can
see them. But there's certain settings you can set your

(19:42):
phone to. You can set there's a frame rate that
you have to adjust on every camera. Also stuff you
could do once you have the footage to put it
on the computer that make it pop even more to
have your mind absolutely bone at the things that you
will capture. I hosted a little seminar there kind of

(20:04):
just showing off some of my work and some of
the things that I've captured, and that was blowing people's minds.
We maybe we'll show some of the pictures of people
just gathered around the computer screen like looking at the
stuff and their minds being blown, and then showing them
what to do, and then everybody actually wanting to go outside,
pull out their cell phone and start filming for themselves

(20:26):
and to see them all like they're with outside with
awe and wonder like a little kid filming all of
this stuff in the sky. All of these these stuff
you get you can't even explain. I could start to
say what they are. But the thing about it, like
there's so many different types and so many different kinds
of elementals and angels and me but and all types

(20:48):
of like sky creatures that's going on and all right
above your head twenty four to seven. So whether you're
looking into the sky gazing at the stars, or there's
clouds in the sky. It's so funny that like I
can go out and just kind of look around and say, Okay,
we want to see that. We need to look into that.

(21:09):
See this cloud. This is what you're looking for here
there's no clouds. Okay, this is what we're going to
position ourselves and see here. And like all of these
little techniques that we kind of developed over the year,
spending hours and hours of filming and dissecting the footage.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
But it was cool because so many people didn't even
realize they could change the setting on their phone or
change the frame rate. So something that simple that almost
every phone will do, and your phone will probably do it.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Yeah, you can.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
Utilize it to slow the footage down or capture more
frames and be able to see things that move so
fast they don't pick up on a regular yeah, twenty
four frame per second camera, So it was fun seeing.
And then the people that, like Laddan brought her laptop
and she was able to dissect her footage right there
and bring it to you and say, look at this,

(21:56):
look at this.

Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeap. That was so that was cool.

Speaker 2 (22:00):
That might be something we need to incorporate in the
future to other course retreats.

Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yeah, you know, it was Kren's idea to help to
tell me to put together a course. And I got
like halfway through with getting all of this stuff together
that I just got like I hit a brick wall
and didn't know which part to do next, just because
I'm you know, I overthink it. But I had like
the technical stuff like done. I didn't finish the course,
but I need to put the course out on how

(22:28):
to do it, just gonna lead you through a step
by stuff. That process pretty much did it there with
the community, so you know, I can show other people
to do it and then get results. I've been doing
it like because of just talking about it on camera
and showing my footage. People send me their footage. Yeah,

(22:49):
and the stuff that they pick up. It's just phenomenal man,
And I love I think, you know, I think just
over different regions and stuff, but people are able to
pick up and different different fund can pick up different things.
But I'm telling you, like once you learn to it's
super addictive once you start filming and learning how to

(23:11):
like get the things that are like almost like they're
behind the layer, like they're deeper in space or deep
deeper in the atmosphere, whatever you want to say, because
they're they're hidden their weight, they're further beyond the things
that you see in the front. There's things that are deep,
bigger and swimming deeper, almost like you're gazing into an

(23:35):
ocean and you see like a shark or a whale
or something, but it's it's in the water a little
ways literally, like the stuff is it appears to be
like that, like in the deeper swimming in the waters
of the firmament that you're able to pick up as
well those beings.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
Another really interesting thing about the star gazing there with
that group particularly is you can tell a lot of
people have been told like that's a satellite, the slow
moving things you see in the sky or satellite. Yeah, Well,
what is a satellite? A satellite is just something that
revolves around something that is larger than it. A satellite

(24:16):
is also a man made piece of machinery that goes
into space to project signals and things. It's also a
smaller representation of a larger thing, kind of like this
city is a satellite location of this city, like just
a smaller nearby representation. Or churches have satellite church exactly

(24:37):
the same thing, same idea there. But so some people
were like, oh, is that a satellite? And I was like, well,
you know, you can pull up an app and look
and see if it's a satellite. So they would pull
it up and see, and some of them were coming
up on the app at satellites. Was it, you know,
machines or natural satellites? Who knows? But then the ones

(24:59):
that don't show up on the app don't automatically assume
that their satellites just because they look similar. And we
were able to sit and ask and say, if you're
not a satellite, do something a satellite can't do. Change
your movement, change your pattern, and to be able to

(25:20):
see them start to zigzag and change directions and stop
and power up and light up, really really bright.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (25:29):
Like it was just so fun because like Melissa and John,
they help us a lot of our retreats. And they
had gone to bed.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
And every time they go to bed is when all
the activity happened. Yeah, just go to bed.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
We'll just put them to them. But they had gone
to bed, and we started seeing all this amazing stuff
and they could hear everybody else going oh like, because
when we'd see something big, we would all at the
same time as a collective.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
And they kept hearing that and they were like, I
knew something was going on.

Speaker 1 (26:04):
Yeah. Yeah, the sky's were full of activity and they're not.
They're not. We're full of activity again. They always are.
And we can teach you how to film them, how
to catch up capture them on camera, and how you
can share them on the internet and show people. And uh,
that was the first time I showed some of that
footage to people, for the first time that I had
some of my best footage. I need. I'm going to

(26:25):
go ahead and do a video and put that out. Yeah,
I just maybe I'll do a commentary over it or something.
But I got some really cool footage of them coming
out of the clouds and all types and the jellyfish.
We got the jellyfish, yeah, footage, so many different types
of them. So yeah, we will be doing that at
the next retreat as well. Also to something cool just

(26:49):
being around all of the vortex is what shafts seems
to be some type of energy vortex were. Then Jesus
is different there. It's a place where Heaven touches Earth. Literally,
that's what I've been. That's what the Bible teaches of
what a mountain is. Right, this place of connection, right

(27:11):
this this pyramid if you will, where the top of
it touches Heaven, the heavens, and in the bottom it's
the conduit of Earth. And it's kind of what we
are as well, you know, we are these voar texas.
But one thing we started to see in the sky
was the the different spiral energy which was clouds like

(27:37):
cloud formations that would start and then begin to kind
of spiral to look like a double helix if you will,
DNA strand. And we started seeing that in some of
the different trees and in the clouds a lot like
just those like wave patterns, which was really interesting.

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Well, a lot of researchers will tell you that vortex
energy and portal energy travels in a spiral, So a
lot of people claim and say that that Shasta is
a portal a vortex of energy, high energy field, so
the spiral effect comes from that. There's also really interesting

(28:22):
stories about people who have traveled to the mountain, gone
into caverns and caves in the mountain. There's stories of
some people never being seen again and never being found,
they just vanished. Yeah, there's stories of people who have
gone in and supposedly found skeletons of beings that are

(28:45):
seven feet tall, kind of laid in a catacomb under
the mountain, some kind of different species of human, kind
of fallen angel, some kind of Goliath type being.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Makes sense with all the giant redwoods being there and
feeling like you're kind of getting onto me and not
someone to say like it's fake. But the reason I
say fake because it felt like I was in a movie.
You know, that was like on a movie set of
like Honey, I shrunk the kids, where everything around you
is bigger, Like the trees are ginormous, but they're amazing

(29:24):
the leaves, not just the trees, but then like you said,
the ferns and stuff like everything was much bigger, you know,
around us, and it just felt like it felt like
the if there were people or you know, somebody who
lived there, that the people would have been bigger too,
you know.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, I could see that the Redwoods Man that was
That was a really magical part of our experience for me.

Speaker 1 (29:49):
You know what, you know what was magical about the
experience when we got home that we had a brand
new box Magic vine on us. These are cool because
we took them with us while we were traveling, and
we love to be able to take these on the
plane with us and have our magical elixirs. Yeah, that

(30:11):
help with focus, mental clarity, and also relief stress. They're
They're amazing. I wish I wish I could drink these
all day.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
I wish they had come before the trip because we
really needed to manage our stress. Yeah, but thankfully mother
Nature helped us with that.

Speaker 1 (30:28):
Yeah. And then when we got home, we had a
new we knew new boxes waiting on us.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Yeah, thankfully. These are so good and they have one
of my favorite nootropics is lines made ye really good
for cognitive function and brain power and love Lines made.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
But I was want to say before we get too
deep into the podcast, which were already getting deep in it,
because we usually drank these before the podcast. That there
are two well these things. We drank them usually before
either A our Bible studies, which helped me obviously, no,
I need help focusing, help me focus on what I'm reading,

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Speaker 1 (33:09):
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and you said it was magical. It said, you know
what Rhyme's was magical, magic mind magic. We had a
magical time with our magic mind. I love this stuff.
The Redwoods and everything just being super big. You you

(33:37):
want to talk about you can we show this picture?

Speaker 2 (33:39):
Sure, I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Show a picture right now. It's your cue to edit
it on screen er, All.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Right, thank you?

Speaker 1 (33:46):
And uh so, yeah, describe this picture that we're looking at.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
So you're seeing a picture of me holding out a
clover to my little furry brand this deer. It was
so the whole well, the whole experience was so surreal
walking the trail up to these redwood trees. But then
I wanted to get closer to one of the trees,

(34:09):
so I stepped down off the trail towards the tree,
and this little deer came up from below and comes
up around the trunk of the tree and approached me.
And it's just I'm not used to that kind of
thing because the animals here, you know, you see them
when you're driving and stuff, and they run off like
they're afraid. But I was just standing there like honoring

(34:31):
and reverencing the nature and the tree and extending gratitude,
and this little deer just comes up the hill and
around the tree and approached me. And so Derek, luckily
I had given him my phone cause I wanted a
picture with the tree, but he was, you know, taking
a little video of the deer coming up to me

(34:53):
and she was eating clover. So I picked a clover
and I just held it out to her and she
got so close to me. But then by the time
she got that close to me, there was a crowd.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
All these people are like, whoa look at the deer
and this lady is like about about to feed the deer.
The deer was about to eat the clover out of
her hand, and they're all like, oh my god, oh
my god. And some dude just cost real crazy and
it freaking startles the deer, and deer backs up and
sees all the people and stuff, and uh, so, yeah,

(35:29):
we didn't. That was that was the end of that.
Once all the people there's a whole crowd of people.
And then John and Melissa, who are two of the
people on our team. They were with us, but they
had gone a little bit ahead of us and they
looked behind us and we weren't there, and they're like,
where's where's truth in Aaron and uh and then they

(35:50):
turn around and they see me and I grabbed a
walking stick because I just had knee surgery, so it's
like I was like, I'm justified and using this as
a little cane or a stack as I'm walking through
the forest, right, And so I'm walking and they're saying,
I look like this old wizard, Like the old wizard
is like this huge staff, and and they look and

(36:13):
they see me holding the staff, and they see me
with all these people that looked like they were around me.
He's just like, what the heck is he putting on
a seminar? Like what's he doing? Suddenly everybody stopped in
there around me, but we're all looking at air and
in the deer. Yeah, it was a wizard. Yeah, it
was so fun. Temperature. You know, one of the biggest

(36:33):
things that we loved about uh California when when you know,
during this time and these places we went because the
temperature totally changed, was the temperature. Because the temperature and
the humidity down here in the South Alabama is a
smoltering and it's uh it's pretty it's heavy.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Yeah, hurts.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
But we always say this about any place that we
go to. In just a few hours up north, even
the humidity drops and that was cool because you had
warm days. It was still like it got fairly hot,
but It wasn't the humidity there, but how the temperature
drops at night, and you pretty much got hoodie weather
at night, like you could put on a hoodie, you

(37:21):
know what I'm saying. And because the temperature dropped like
thirty degrees every night, it was just perfect.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (37:27):
Like here, we love stargazing, we love talking to our
space buddies, but we don't love the mosquitoes that are
lighting your butt up usually, right, So we got to
wear a cover around us or something like that, or
put on some kind of spray that we would get
from the plants and kind of keep the mosquitos away.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
Because if you guys aren't familiar with the South, like
I'm not kidding, it'll be ninety five during the day
and the low at night will be in the eighties
and still ninety five percent of humidity. You can't you
really can't live comfortably without a c here. You cannot
do it. And that's another funny part of our trip.
We we take for granted that ac is going to

(38:12):
be everywhere. And John had picked this really cool cabin
for us near a lake to stay at one of
the nights, and there was no AC in the cabin.
You didn't really need it though, like it was cool enough.

Speaker 1 (38:24):
But I mean, yeah, you know, it was cool enough
because we're in a hot tub at night. Yeah, it's
so cool. It wasn't it down like in the I
was it in the fifties at night?

Speaker 2 (38:34):
I kind of think it was in the fifties. During
the day when we were in the Redwood forest, it
was cold.

Speaker 1 (38:39):
Oh yeah, oh yeah. And John showed up.

Speaker 4 (38:42):
With a tank to tank top shorts and flip flops
walking through the red and we all like had pants
and a sleeve in our in the trunk with us
and was like, yeah, yeah, that was It's so weird,
but it's.

Speaker 1 (38:57):
Going I guess up the mountains. Yeah, it was going
on the which was changing so much, so beautiful. Anytime
we travel and visit somewhere different, we're always like we're
moving here, because like we love to get back home. Usually, well,
in any retreat or any vacation, we're usually ready to
get back to our our home, our comfort space. And

(39:18):
you guys can see you guys probably can't see you
barely can see his head that might hurt, you can
see it. This little dog here, We're usually ready to
get back to him and our daughter and family and
and routine and uh, but we don't miss the weather.

(39:39):
So we're looking to relocate anywhere wants to have us.
We're looking everywhere we've been to. We love I could,
I could, I could see myself being Uh in Colorado,
Colorado Springs was amazing. Another huge, majestic, scary mountain.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
Yeah, we actually looked up to see which mountain was taller,
because Pike's Peak is really impressive, but then Shasta is
really impressive also, and Shasta is actually sixty feet taller.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
You googled it, I did or gpt heated Google?

Speaker 2 (40:10):
Remember who told me?

Speaker 1 (40:12):
So? We that would be fun because that was a
that was just amazing. Weather was perfect, snowed on the
smaller there. Greece. We love Greece. We love Greece for
the although when we went people said, we like, it
wasn't during during tourists heat, and it wasn't during the
hot season, which is when all the tourists are there.

(40:33):
There's still a lot of people there. But the weather
was was nice and we still got we still had
fairly cool, cool, cooler nights there because it was.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
Actually really cold here. When we were in Greece, it
was unnaturally cold here and snowy here. And then we
were in Greece with the highs in the sixties, which
was nice.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
Yeah, Greece was a good place. We'd love to relocate too.
I could see I could see living there. But also,
I mean, I never thought that I'd want to go
to California, and I don't want to. But California was
nice where we went to. Yeah, Mount Shasta was it
was so cool. Shasta was very cool.

Speaker 2 (41:14):
I only think of California in my mind from images
I've seen and stuff of big cities like La and beach, like,
you know, people rollerblading by the beach.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Who you've seen doing that?

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Barbie?

Speaker 1 (41:28):
Yeah, yeah, Barbie and skip skip Now. Who is her
daughter's name? Oh?

Speaker 2 (41:35):
No, I saw that her little sister movie, the movie
Margot Robbie.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Was she in it?

Speaker 2 (41:40):
A little sister maybe? But I don't think she traveled
to the human What.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
Was her name? What was Barbie's little sister's name?

Speaker 2 (41:48):
I played with animals when I was Skipper, not too much. Barbie.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
You remember Skipper mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
And I know who Skipper is. I don't think I
ever had a skipper.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
Skipper.

Speaker 2 (42:02):
Yeah, Well, we met some really cool people on the
trip too. We were able to meet two people. Yeah,
one is an acquaintance of another friend that we've made
and one's a longtime friend.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Shout out who do we shout out first? The one
ones we met first, we shout out to uh to Mark,
Shout out to Mark. When Mark sighed on fire, he's
a homie. He's been supporting, he's been a part of
the community like off and on for years now. Super cool, christocentric,

(42:34):
call him a Christian, loves Jesus but also just loves spirituality.
And you can tell that he sees Christ in more
things besides religion organized religion. So and if that that
those are, that's what that's how you become a homie.
When you were able to do that right, you're like,
we have some fun conversations and and what's understood doesn't

(42:57):
have to be explained kind of thing. We know that
you know, those are the that's family, I believe. So
he's been in a part of the community. And he
recommended a restaurant for us to check out while we
were in Ashland, and we went there and he might
he said he might show up, and he did show

(43:19):
up right, and he treated all of us to lunch,
and and he.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
Gave us some cool gifts too.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
He gave me a vial of Frankinsense oil. And we're
picky a little bit about our Frankensense now. So it
was fun because he was like, I've got some frankn
Cents and we're like, no.

Speaker 1 (43:37):
We got we got the franks.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
So we're like arguing back and forth. We're like, Okay,
where's your Frankensense from?

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Who's the plug?

Speaker 2 (43:44):
And he's like, these people like their names, the smoke Walkers.
We're like, oh, we love the smoke Walkers.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
Oh, I guess I'm not going to give you any
of my frank incents because you already got the good
frank since we're gonna thought he we're gonna put him,
put him onto something, but he already yeah, already was
onto it.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
Yeah. It's it's a different vibe when you use these
resins and these things with people who truly honor the
plant and the spirit the spirit of the plant. And
if you want to follow them, their Instagram is awakened
to the one. It's a husband and wife team. They
harvest the Frankenson's resin. They distill it into oils. They

(44:22):
have MRR also, and they also sell when they're in stock,
they sell little cauldrons and kits to burn it. Yeah,
so check them out.

Speaker 1 (44:30):
I'm gonna do something on camp. I'm gonna because I
seen him do it. He was I want to I
want to get my smelling salts okay, and then get
you to smell. Someone came.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
I'm not doing that.

Speaker 1 (44:43):
I saw him do it, so shout out to him.
I see him and say, hey, I got some of
those smelling you.

Speaker 2 (44:49):
Gotta do like him, though, smell and mrr right after.

Speaker 1 (44:52):
Yeah, instead of smelling. This little dog barting in the
room with your being fully awake and in tune, let
me go get it. I'll be right all right. He
likes any kind of look at him. He thinks it's treats.
This is not a treat. Oh, oh my god. He
thought I was giving him a hot they're saying that,

(45:12):
Oh my god. I just messed up, y'all because I
said the t R E a T word.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
And he heard it, and you held your hand.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Up and I held my hand up. He thought I
was giving an h I G h F I V E.
And I wasn't Oh my god, you don't want this.

Speaker 2 (45:26):
Buddy, Run good, run.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
Now, this will burn your eyes. Dude, you need to
get back. I'm gonna smell it checking wake up. Shout
out to awaken to the one. Smoke Walker's seen you
smell on some of these, buddy, So I bought them.

(45:50):
I was bad but good at the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I don't want this. Oh the double punch. It will
wake you up, though. Man, I like it because I'd
be too chill sometimes. So I'm not plugging this. I
just did it for because I wanted to. But what

(46:11):
we are plugging, y'all need to tap into the smoke
Walkers go to It's Awakened too, the one dot com.
I think that's the website, but that's where they sell
their Frankinsense. And again we say that they are in
relationship with the spirit of Frankinsense and Myrrh, and they

(46:33):
use it or work with it ceremonially and have a
deep appreciation for it. And it's not the same as
ordering it off of Amazon by any means. When we
smelled when they sent us some frankn Sense, we literally
started crying, just because we had developed a relationship with

(46:54):
Amazon frankn Sense and we had a deep appreciation for
it and it was amazing and it is amazing, but
we didn't know that there was there was levels of
purity and levels of the people that are cultivating it
and working with it. So yeah, shout out to our friends.
Is that the.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
Website now awakened to the one is the Instagram handle
the smokewalkers dot com is the website dsmokewalkers dot com.
It'll get you some We incorporated in ceremony, we incorporated
with breath work, we incorporated with our private practice. It's
just beautiful.

Speaker 1 (47:30):
Yeah, fumigation, we have Aaron has a like a mini
course teaching on how we work with Frankinstons. Yeah, and
how you can get started too.

Speaker 2 (47:43):
So go check that out. It's at Seer dot school.
You can join us over there and check out my
little mini course I made all right. I show you
how to use the charcoal discs to burn the resin
because a lot of people don't know how to use
incense that way. So I'll just show it right on camera.
Super simple, something that you can take with you and
use for any resident, not only Frankinsonse.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Yeah, make sure you check it out. You can check
that out for free. There's a bunch of free stuff
on the website too.

Speaker 2 (48:13):
So let's talk about your snow white moment before the
end of the podcast, which one, well, oh, it was
really cool. We did another trail and you you mentioned
earlier that you know, you are coming off of acl surgery,
like a huge surgery, lots of physical therapy, not sure
how it's gonna feel hiking and stuff. And we did
a five mile hike, y'all. It was moderate slash moderate easy,

(48:38):
but it was a lot of uphill and downhill, a
lot of rocks, and you handled it so well. I
was so proud of you.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
I think I'm feeling it a little bit now though,
like a few days after. Yeah, but uh no, I did.
I did.

Speaker 2 (48:50):
But just like I remember the first lap that you
did around the park, you know, shaky, easy to forget,
and then to see you hike in five miles, like,
good job.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
It's easy to forget about that lap around the park.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Not for me.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
Yeah, scary. That was a scary time, man. That we
went through recently, legs freaking swoll up probably almost four
times the size that it is and m m, the
pain that was wild, so.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Thankful that you're on the other side of that. And
we did this hike. It was McLoud River Trail and
it was called Middle Falls is where we were going.
We actually went all the way to the upper falls
and back, but we get to Middle Falls it's after
after our portion of the retreat. So along with fumigation

(49:46):
and other cleansing rituals that we do, water moving water
is a natural cleanser. So we're sitting at the base
of this enormous waterfall. The water is just cascading down.
You can feel the mist from it, you can feel
the charge in the air that just like sucks all
of the negative energy, all of the not even negative energy,

(50:10):
just other people's energy that's not supposed to be resting
with you. It just kind of like washes all of
that off. It's such a cleansing and beautiful feeling. And
so we're just admiring this waterfall.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Were I was. As you were closer to it. I
didn't want to go down those steep rocks just because
it looked a little much at the time, but.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
You could still see it, and I still went down
there eventually, so I guess, but I'm down at the
bottom with Melissa, and we're just like cleansing in the
waterfall energy and we look up the hill and you're
opening Melissa's kind bar, her granola bar that she brought.
It's like, oh, why is Derek opening Melissa's granola bar? This?

Speaker 1 (50:52):
He's hungry. I was hungry. There was a little chipmunk
up there. There's a couple of little chipmunks and and
they they they were interested in us, in me and John.
And I was messing with John because John was scared
of him. They were so tiny, so cute, adorable little

(51:13):
guys and uh, and they were getting kind of closer whatever.
And I said, John, man, give him some water. Because
John had this big thing of water. I was like, pot,
you some water in your cap and give it to
him and see if they'll drink it, you know, because
they were like like they were interested in and and
you know us, And he was scared of me. He's like, no, man,
I gotta watch out for them little things. Man, they're
gonna try to get me. I said, man, hold your

(51:34):
hand out, because he was closer, hold your hand out,
let him jump in your hand. And they might have
done that, you know, but uh, he was afraid. I
was like, hold on, man, give me something. They'll feed them,
and said, you had any more nuts? It's like we
got this candy bar and that well it's like a
granola had nuts in it and and some like jam
and syrup and stuff in it or whatever, just a

(51:56):
bunch of nuts. And I was like, w do me
see if they want this? So I cut it out
to him. The little joker came over there and he
held it. He was eat eating it and stuff. And
I break them off little pieces and throw to him
and he come eat it. But yeah, he was eating
it out of my hands. So there's a picture here
for those of you watching on the video, you'd better
see a picture of me feeding the little fellow.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Yeah, and you even put a little piece on your shoulder.
At one point he came and got up there and
got it off your shoulder.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
Put on my shoulder and kind of helped my shoulder up.
I was wanting him to jump up there, but then
I was like, he may attack me.

Speaker 2 (52:28):
I could see it in your eyes.

Speaker 1 (52:30):
I'm scaredish. I don't want to get bit. I've been
bit by squirrels, and oh I have to. I don't
want to They got some sharp teeth. They can crack
nuts and stuff with one chump like they could probably,
you know, crack my bone of my finger.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
And guys, don't come for us in the comments. Don't
say that he's not gonna eat squirrel food anymore or
any of that stuff. You seen enough we know already.

Speaker 1 (52:54):
Never do it again. We never do it again.

Speaker 2 (52:56):
Don't just don't.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Yes, we will. I will feed the animals if the
animals want a piece of my candy bar.

Speaker 2 (53:04):
It wasn't a snicker bar. It was a kind bar.
It was made.

Speaker 1 (53:07):
It was made of nuts. And he's like, you're introducing
food to him that he doesn't eat. We got like
there was some mean comments. It was so many. There
were so many amazing comments, but uh, you know it's
the ones that are there, just loud and mean. And
you're a murderer. You're gonna you don't know it, but
you're trying to be spiritual for a photo op, but
you're you're gonna kill him because now he's not gonna

(53:28):
eat regular squirrel food anymore. And I'm like my dog,
this little guy, y'all can't hear him, but he's storn.
He eats human food. He eats human food and he
loves it. He and he loves t R e A
t s. He loves those. But he doesn't turn his

(53:50):
nose up to his dog food. He still eats that
food and human treats, human food, And I'm pretty sure
it's gonna work the same way with the squirrel. They're like,
they're not gonna you're messing up. He's not gonna be
able to hibernate. Now. That squirrel was finding everything he could.
He was shoving it in his mouth. His cheeks were full,

(54:12):
and he'd get it one he'd shove it in. They
we gave him pistachios and they'd shoved that in. And
they're just like they're gonna eat that and eat more
and so like' like it's gonna disrupt their natural They're
not gonna be able to hibernate. Now, probably gonna be
able to hibernate better. They're gonna be full. Yeah, So yeah,

(54:33):
treat every now and then. It's like, just think, if
everybody did what you're doing, you're a killer. You're a monster.
All for a photo. Op didn't know my photo was
being taken. And trust me, it didn't matter if there
was a photo there or not. I would have fed
them anyway, and I would have tried to pet him,
high five him, because I feel like that's like, come on,
that's supposed to be normal. Man, They're supposed to be normal.

(54:56):
It was normal at one time. That's the spirituality I
believe in that. That's the biblical understanding that I believe in. Right,
that animals weren't afraid of me. We can share a
treat together. We could share a meal together with the chipmunks.
That I can take a bike and then hand it
to him, he could take a bite and we can

(55:17):
just talk.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
Yes, the Bible says that even the wolf would lay
down with the lamb. Yeah, so they weren't even afraid
of each other at one point in divine dominion, in
the way that the world was created and the way
it's supposed to work, they're not even having to be
afraid of each other. So yeah, I thought it was
just beautiful. I think it's awesome to respect them and

(55:39):
honor them as little totems and as little little beings
brothers and sisters, and yeah, it's so fun.

Speaker 1 (55:48):
I mean that's just how I look at it that way,
and also look at it like like what if I
was the squirrel because I am like, on some level,
I am the squirrel to an advanced civilization that you know,
whether it's aliens or whether it's angels or whatever you
think it is. Like, what if they came down and
they had something called Brahma Brahmas the food of the gods.

(56:13):
And it's a lot of our foods that we have
that came from the gods, Coco being one of them.

Speaker 2 (56:18):
Cow is literally called the.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
Brahma food and bramas in the Bible. Yeah, it's in
the Bible. It's like you got to dive into the
words of food because not all food is brama. There's
certain types of food for the belly, and there's food
for the soul. Yeah, and uh, and that comes from
the gods. But what if what if the gods come
down and have a you know, a sweet an amazing

(56:40):
sweet roll that you eat it in it you know,
makes you peaceful and just taste amazing, and they're like, here, man,
this is what we eat. We're gonna you want to
try it, like not going to kill you. You might
want more. I definitely want more. I definitely eat a
biteen like dang I want How do we get more.

(57:01):
I'm not gonna, you know, not go home and not
eat my food at all when I'm hungry. It's like
I look at it differently, and so that's how I
look at it. I know it's probably not how other people.
Maybe it's not rational, but that's how my damn mind works.
I look at it that way. And I look at hey, man,
you want to you want to buy I know you're
hungry boom. I look at the same way. Homeless dude outside.

(57:21):
You're an enabler. You're an enabler. You just gave a
homeless man ten dollars and he's gonna buy alcohol. You're
enabling him not to work. Man, listen, Like, what are
you gonna do with the ten dollars? You're gonna buy
alcohol with it too? Like why you're judging this poor guy?
You know what I'm saying. Like meet people where they are.

Speaker 2 (57:39):
We're cheerful, cheerful givers not only to people, but to
animals and everything. Plants like you give out of the
abundance of your heart because you feel so blessed to
overflowing that you want to share it with other people
and other animals. Other plants like you can't help, but
be a cheerful giver.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
Yeah, it's just one thing, like what if everybody gave it? Well,
first of all, everybody's not. Everybody's not traveling with the
with snacks on them at all times, and and what
if they are? Maybe maybe they are. Maybe that's why
the squirrels weren't as afraid. But it wasn't just the
squirrels there. Maybe it's all the people because they weren't
dependent on human food. That's the stupid to think of

(58:21):
that they weren't, But all of the animals at that park.
There were three different animals that we got to like
get up and close and personal with. One of them
was the deer that was not eating human food, was
eating like clover and then you I told you to
pick some you resigned and picked and held it out
and she was going to eat it out of your hand.

(58:43):
There was that experience. There was the little chipmunk experience
that I had. And then when we were getting in
the car to leave, there was a beautiful what's it
called Stellar's j It's like it's like a blue jay,
but just stellar.

Speaker 2 (58:59):
Yeah. A lot of face paint like war pain, had
a lot.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Of black instead of white. And blue. He was like
black and blue, so cool looking, and and he liked pistachios,
salted pistachios, because we gave him some of them, and
he the way he would swoop down so gracefully out
of the He was a little nervous for sure to
be around people, but he wanted those pistachios and he

(59:22):
lit them up. And he was getting super close to
us as well, and he was so big and pretty,
and yeah, just it just kind of hits home and
you know, remind you of the magic first of all,
just to see them, but to see that, hey, there's
some way of connection at that that maybe they're not

(59:43):
as scared of you anymore. Whether it's just at that park,
whether it's just in that location, or whether it's you
know you in general because of you don't eat them.
I don't know what it is. That's a part of
my personal convictions of wanting to try to build relateationship
with animals is to not to eat them. You know,
if I know there's something that eats humans, I'm going

(01:00:06):
to be a little afraid of them. Whether it's a
grizzly bear or a wolf or a vampire from another country.
You know somebody in the lineage of vampires or you
know what I'm saying, I'm a little bit scared of
you and your people because I know every now and
then y'all might it's in your blood to eat. So
you probably should be a little skittish. Animals should be

(01:00:27):
a little skittish because they know our history. But I
cried after seeing you with the deer, just for a moment.
I cried a tear of like, and this is how
it's supposed to be, because he knows that at least
these deer here know that nobody's about to pull out
a rifle and shoot them on the spot. Not here,

(01:00:52):
not at this park. You can't. It's illegal. That's a
designated place where humans and animals get to kind of
cohabitate together in a safe zone, you know what I'm saying.
And they're okay, they're protected there in the south most
they're gonna run from you people, you know, joke about

(01:01:14):
I like to put his head on my wall. They
literally had the heads of deers on the walls, and
you know, and do it, and they hunt them for sport,
and they joke.

Speaker 2 (01:01:24):
A lot too, like because we love them so much,
and they they're almost like friends to us, hindred spirits.
And then when people are like we're like, oh my gosh,
look a deer and they're like, oh, that looks like
it tastes good, or you know, that makes me hungry,
I'm like to eat my little sister over there.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
I remember, like in reality of like becoming vegetarian, there's
something I wanted to do for years, the animal that
the instinct in me, the you know, primate in me,
couldn't control it. I wanted to eat what tasted good
and I couldn't couldn't stop it, and what was convenient

(01:02:08):
and what was like quick, readily accessible, and I didn't
care what it was. So it was eating McDonald's and
all kind of chicken sandwiches. And I was addicted to
chicken sandwiches, you know, for the longest. And my body
showed what I showed it to, you know, the weight
and the age that it came with, and I looked ridiculous.
I looked like a different person looking at those photos.

(01:02:29):
Now I'm not that person anymore, and you can tell.
But I did it for convenience and to be able
to control that animalistic part of your animalistic nature that
we still have that primitive primate nature to the appetites

(01:02:50):
of the lust of the flesh, instant gratifications. To be
able to do that and to be able to control
it is a big deal for me personally.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
It goes back to talked about at the beginning, what
what are you going to sacrifice? Are you going to
sacrifice something that you desire, your own fleshly desires, or
are you going to sacrifice this animal is being.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
When there was because remember when we first was trying
to eat vegetarian and this was years ago, just trying
to because we had little off and on diets. Whether
it was you by yourself or me by myself kind
of going back and forth or together doing it. I
couldn't do it is the reason I didn't. I tried
my best, and it just wasn't. I just wasn't strong

(01:03:35):
enough time. I guess I didn't want it bad enough.
But we will go to like cookouts and stuff or
weenie roast. That's something your family does. Yeah, And I
posted a picture of on Facebook of like, hey, we
could still come to the Winnie roast. We're not going
to eat hot dogs because when I'm eating those right now,

(01:03:57):
So you made carrot dogs, and so you you like,
roasted a carrot and certain like spices on it and
stuff and made it taste really good and put it
in a hot dog, like, hey, we're eating a carrot dog.

Speaker 2 (01:04:10):
Put it in a hot dog, bune, put some you know,
vegetarian chili on it. Really good.

Speaker 1 (01:04:15):
It was good. So we ate it and and we
had it for dinner too. You know where we posted
the pictures of people like what in the world that
looks disgusting? It's what a lot of my friend said,
and a lot of comments said, that looks disgusting. You're
eating a carrot on a hot dog? One what that's disgusting?

(01:04:35):
It's like, do you know what a do you know
what a hot dog is? Your dad calls them snooters
and pooters because their eyeballs and buttholes that are ground up,
just body parts from a pig. And it just mushy,
mushed together, just random body parts ground and mush together

(01:04:59):
and and put in a little you know, sleeve for
you a little tubing and then you eat it. It's like,
this is freaking good. And uh, but they said that
ours looked disgusting. But that's the world we live. In. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Look, guys, I used to like hot dogs. Okay, I'm
not saying hot dogs taste disgusting. I'm just saying, like,
if you can eat that, don't say a carrot soaked
in some soy sauce and liquid, smoke and garlic is disgusting.
It's a carrot. It's one ingredient, carrot, the carrot disgusting.

Speaker 1 (01:05:32):
That's the word to call that disgusting, But called a
hot dog like that's good. Do you know what the
crap you're eating? What are you eating?

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
It's a disconnect.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
It is a disconnect because if you thought about what
it was, you probably wouldn't do It's so you had
to go.

Speaker 2 (01:05:49):
Slaughter the pig and grind it up yourself already eat it.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
No, I already knew would have been vegetarian years ago,
or I would have starved to death. I probably would
have starved. I just couldn't. It just was never in me.
They called me a sissy growing up because I wasn't
one of the dudes. I didn't like to go hunting
all that stuff. I like seeing dead animals and seeing
them cut open an animal and pull out all the
intestines and throw it listen more power to you. As

(01:06:14):
a baby, I knew that that was wrong. As a baby,
I knew that. My stomach turned and uh, I know
it's just a different while raised differently, trust me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
I know, yeah, because I did it. I was raised
in that culture of hunting. And I rebuke you, and
you know you the animal sacrifices this life so that
you and your family can eat. That's just what I
was taught and that's the way it is and how
I was raised. And so I've killed deer, I've skinned deer,
harvested them. You know, I thought it was thought it

(01:06:48):
was the way I totally honored the animal. Felt like
I was honoring the animal and their spirit. And uh,
but man, it's it's a beautiful place to be in
and that you can thrive, not just survive, that you
can thrive and they can too. That you don't have
to live that way. You can. You can make that choice,

(01:07:13):
and you can choose to try to honor them as
you kill them. But man, it's a it's a beautiful
place to be in when you realize you don't have
to kill them if you don't want to.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
Yeah, you don't have to.

Speaker 2 (01:07:25):
And I don't want to. I've always loved deer, and
I remember one of my probably the last time I
went hunting. I was bow hunting because I had gotten
to the place where I felt kind of like I
wanted to bow hunt because you know, guns and all,
it's really unfair you have a gun with sights and

(01:07:45):
you're feeding them. And so anyway, I learned to bow
hunt and I was bow hunting and a dough came
out and I was, you know, heart started racing. I
was going to I was going to harvest this dough.
But then a little baby came out and started nursing
own her, and I think that might have been the
last time I ever went hunting, because we had a

(01:08:10):
baby deer at Bukaroo Barn and we called her Bambt
and you know, she was just so much fun and
we raised her and took Nevega up to take pictures
with her when she was really little and just having
relationship with the deer and even wondering like what if

(01:08:31):
that is Bambett, you know the dough because she grew
up and you know it wasn't a pet, like she
went back to the forest. When once you become in
relationship with something like that. It changes things. Yeah, it's
kind of like people too, Like with the stories. It's
easy to hate a Muslim until you get in a

(01:08:52):
relationship with a Muslim. You know, disconnect, You have a disconnect.
They're not like us, But then you realize there they
are you. You know, we're all the same. We have
a few differences, sure, but y'all come from the same
place and we all go to the same place.

Speaker 1 (01:09:09):
You know, we're brainwashed. It was propaganda. You don't have
to do that. I don't think we were supposed to
do that by any means. I think that's part of
the fall I think, but it's the fall by by
at this point, by the choice to stay in this
falling nature. I mean when I dove deep into those
scriptures or whatever, because I was like these these dietary

(01:09:33):
restrictions about what you can and what you can't eat,
like that changed. I was like, why is it in there?
Like three times or whatever that I noticed, and I
was like, couldn't just being at one time one and done?
Was like, how are you telling these people y'all can
eat that? But these people y'all can eat that? And
there's there's so many disconnects and there's context in the

(01:09:54):
scriptures of like who's talking to who, and what happened
and who are they talking to, because you notice a
similar conversation happened with the African American slaves. So if
they was to write that down of what y'all can eat,
they gave them a different dietary restriction than what they ate.

(01:10:14):
When they would kill a pig, the white man would
get all the good parts, all the parts that they
wanted for the bacon and with other pork chops or whatever,
and they would give them the slops. They would give
the slaves the pig feet, the intestines, and so this
is what y'all so when we're talking about you eat this,

(01:10:35):
you guys eat this, we'll eat that. That's in the Bible.
If you go back to the beginning, when we were
closer to the alohem, when we were closer to eating,
you weren't you weren't killing and eating animals. They were
the homies. They were the big homies. And then later
after the fall, after Noah's flood, they get off and

(01:10:55):
then they start telling people to eat different things. But
they also said if you eat anything with blood in it,
then your life will be required, and you will be hunted.
If you kill and require and cause bloodshed, consume that blood,
there'll be a curse upon you and your blood will
be required. So like, why don't we like what the

(01:11:17):
heck happened there between after the fall and after the
flood versus before the flood, Because the story of Christianity
is to reverse the curse and make it back to
before the flood, make it back to eating back before
the fall where everything got mixed up and messed up.
And I think that's what we're doing on an individual basis,

(01:11:37):
and we're doing it together. It's a slow process, but
you know, we're here to hold each other's hands through it.
And I hope I don't sound hard or harsh, but
I'm just saying where my convictions, where I come from
with this, we don't beat people up. I don't know
if it sounds like you know, it probably sounds like
it could It could sound like gaslighting, but it could

(01:12:00):
also light of fire in your belly that you can't
put out.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
Yeah, because some people want to.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
They could call you up higher and call you up
the great things and you've been wanting to and you
can these are that was me I wanted to, and
I couldn't. But when you look at things differently, they
start to change, and so look at them a little
bit differently. Look at Maybe this is a trick because
you know all this stuff. We're looking at animals and say, well,
I prayed for the animal before I killed it. You

(01:12:26):
don't think they prayed for the slaves before they killed them.
Or cannibals there's still Cannibals are like a thing. Like
human sacrifice is still a thing. All of the traffic,
children and the people that come up missing, that is
still a thing that goes on in Satanic circles by

(01:12:46):
like the number is insane. There's a reason that movement
is so big. Of everybody like worried about the kids
and the people being kidnapped in traffic or at least
they prayed for them before they killed them, before they
ate them. They nourishments. It's the siths they need, man,
damn that. Like that's how I look at it, Like
I don't want something's gonna pray for me before it
kills me and eats me. Like, man, don't you know

(01:13:09):
what I'm saying? Like hold space, like do unto others,
which you have done unto you. I know that there
are beings. I know that there are people, evil or not.
They probably don't look at themselves as evil when they're
doing this. This is their blood line, where they come from.
But there's some dark stuff that I've you know, I
felt like I've seen and that I don't want to
be a victim of. So if i'm I don't have

(01:13:31):
no room to talk. If I'm treating others that way
and requiring the blood of animals because I need it
to live, I'm I'm proof that you don't need animals
and blood to live. We've been you know, going you know,
a year and a half, over a year and a
half with no flesh, no blood in our bodies, and

(01:13:52):
and we had to recalibrate. But we're doing well. And
if you're listening to this and it's calling you, you
can do it. You can do it too if it's
if it's not calling you, forget everything I just said.
And I'm still your homie. Yeah, And I don't want
you to feel bad.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
It sounds like judgment are judging ourselves.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
I'm judging the I can only speak from experience.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Because if God tells you not to drink alcohol. Then
that's for you. There are plenty of people who have
a beer and have no problems, and we're preaching to ourselves.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Just say that preaching to ourselves and whoever's ear is
that they may fall upon that it resonates, Yeah, because
I don't think it's right. I don't want to stand
up on a you know, you know, a soapbox and
beat you up. Maybe the animals wish I would because
they can't talk. Maybe they need me to talk to you.
So you know, hopefully that it doesn't fall on death's ears.

(01:14:46):
And I know it isn't leave us a comment, let
us know, but.

Speaker 2 (01:14:48):
They can talk. They just don't speak English, right, but
if you listen, they will talk.

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Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
Right saying your stuff right? You would you? You locked up?
We haven't talked about it. You locked up. I tried
to get you the same that song with me. You
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Speaker 2 (01:17:19):
I did you put me on the spot in a spotlight,
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Speaker 1 (01:17:24):
I couldn't do it at our concert the second time.
I know that song, though it didn't like you didn't
know the song you love that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
I literally just froze up.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
You're like, what is he doing?

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
This is not part of the this is not part
of the plan.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
We didn't rehearse The Seeker. But yeah, if you want
to private intimate evening with True Seeker and Aaron in concert,
that'll be something that we usually end out the retreats
with uh concert. So we'll be doing that as well.
I think it's worth it just for the concert fun. Uh, yep,

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Speaker 2 (01:19:21):
Yeah, shout out to Aurora. I don't think we ever
called Aurora.

Speaker 1 (01:19:25):
Yep, we met Aurora, the amazing, amazing purple haired friend
who offered us a free sound healing session. She was
gonna let us in our group come. We were so
busy though.

Speaker 2 (01:19:40):
Man, yeah, there are our schedules didn't align this time
this time, but there. I feel like it's gonna happen
in the future another time.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
She has a sound healing practice in Shasta, and she
was amazing. She We got to hang out with her
for a little bit and we met her, I guess
through mutual friends Tony Gazi when we interviewed him. She
was friends with him and I guess found us through
through his work, and uh no, it was She was
super cool and it was cool to have like friends

(01:20:09):
in the areas and like, oh, we got there's a
lot more people around here that we know or who
know us then we know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:16):
Yeah, definitely. The last two places we went, it felt
like there was a pretty big community there of people
that felt like community.

Speaker 1 (01:20:25):
Yeah, so she was she was super cool and check
her out online. Just go I'm sure if you type
in Aurora and Shasta Sound Healing you could find her
practice and book a sessions. She was going to hook
us up. If we could have got away, we would
have went. We just slammed pretty much the whole time
once the event started.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
Yeah, that's we got there.

Speaker 1 (01:20:43):
Next time, shout out to little Red Riding Hood.

Speaker 2 (01:20:46):
Oh yeah, to talk about a little red riding hood.

Speaker 1 (01:20:49):
So what's the name of that little spring?

Speaker 2 (01:20:51):
We were Headwaters Spring. It's a local spring near Shasta
where people will go and gather drinking water, which we
gathered drinking water from a spring here. So that's something
that we wanted to do. And we had some time
to spend before we checked in, and so we went
on a little hike and got us some water. And
there was this little barefoot girl in a red dress

(01:21:12):
out with a foraging bag and she was forging plants,
and so I asked her what she was forging and
she taught me three different plants. I just went off
on the trail with her and she showed me three
different plants and kind of told me what to do
with them and how you eat them. And yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:21:28):
So we see this cute little young I don't know
how she ho she was. It was hard to tell. Yeah,
I mean that's she wasn't like a little kid, like
eighteen maybe probably. And when we see her, she's like
picking forging for plants, and we said, that's pretty cool.

(01:21:49):
It's hippies everywhere, Bohemians and Gypsies or Egyptians as uh
John was calling them. And then Aaron's like, oh, what
do you what do you? What's that? This is what
I'm gathering, these horsetails whatever they're called. And that's cool,
and it's like, come here, I'll show you some morning.
Aaron just follows a little red riding hood off into

(01:22:11):
the forest and we're just standing there like, I'm not
I'm sure you're not supposed to follow these You see
these people in the forest, and I'm supposed to follow
them off. I think it's gonna turn into a wolf
for something and get you, you know, like it was
a trick and we were just joking. But that was
a cool experience.

Speaker 2 (01:22:28):
Yeah, Like you know the memes where it's a van
and it says like free puppies on it, like how
to capture me or whatever? Yeah, yeah, learn free foraging tips.
That would be me.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
Yeah. And also before we go, we didn't we didn't
really give a shout out to I know, we said
Karin Gerrillo's name. Karin. If you're watching this, thanks for
hosting us and thanks for inviting us to your space.
You are a amazing facilitator, an amazing woman of God.
You you were an amazing hosts and thank you for

(01:23:02):
allowing us on your property to to uh to share
our magic with you and vice versa. Yes, it was
such a blessing. Your community embraced us with open open arms.
Everyone there was was amazing. I mean we can we
can name off all the people, but everybody who showed
up was super amazing. Listen, we had a couple of

(01:23:23):
people who came. Kelly was there, Uh, Christina Kelly, Christina,
Christina Ledon Mark were some of some of our community
that showed up. So fun to spend time with them
personally and just hang out for three four days with them.

(01:23:44):
You know, we talked about like having an agenda and
stuff planed and stuff like that, but it's also this
part of like we're just hanging out, you know, just
doing life with people for a couple of days and
so fun. One thing I just want to just say
about like Christina we said earlier was on a different interview.
We talked about this, but Christina amazing individual. She's been

(01:24:06):
a part of our community. She comes and you know,
we meet Christina, she has her r She's just herself.
It's a little bit different, right. We love Christina, but
there was something different about her after the retreat. Now
that's like, okay, this is Christina.

Speaker 2 (01:24:20):
Cool.

Speaker 1 (01:24:21):
You know, I know you're dealing with some stuff and
you're saying you want to lay some things down. This
is what these retreats are for. We didn't know how
much or what you're going to get, but we want
to try to hold space for you, you know, and help
facilitate whatever it is that God's wanting to do in
your life. Because we just leave it up to the father,
man and the mother. But we end up leaving the

(01:24:43):
retreat having a beautiful encounter. We've seen God just working
everybody's life so amazing. We jump on our weekly zoom
call with our membership platform, see your school. Christina's on
after the retreat, and she's just glowing, looks like a
different person. I didn't know, Like that's the thing, Like

(01:25:07):
that's not Christina, Like something happened. And then she got
to kind of share her testimony of what she experienced,
and you know, part of the old Christina that wasn't
serving her anymore was buried and resurrected in the newness
of christ Man and she experienced a beautiful breakthrough. So
we're so happy for you, Christina, and for everybody who

(01:25:29):
showed up and just went in with us, Ladan, everybody
who brought their beautiful magic to the table. Kelly, such
a beautiful experience, man, I love to see that. And
we literally saw that after with her countenance freaking change
her face, like the color change. She was glowing, just

(01:25:49):
glowing after so cool.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
Yeah, so thank you from the bottom of our hearts
to Corinne and her whole team, to Chuck Sue Linn.

Speaker 1 (01:26:00):
Lin Lin's freaking amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
They all came through, man, and yeah, little little piece
of them came with us. Yeah, for sure, each one
of them.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
Definitely people I want to see again. Yeah, definitely people
I want to see again, whether it's at a retreat
or there's wherever we're at. I'd love to do that.
Those people want their family, you know what I'm saying,
And you want to see family again, and that's the beauty.
And you hear that a lot when when we host
these retreats. It's one of the most beautiful things is
that you meet so called perfect strangers. Right, you meet

(01:26:33):
a stranger, but it's like, man, I knew you my
whole life. Yeah, I felt like I've always known you
because you could just jump into conversation, be yourself. It's
like this is this is what we call tribe. And
it was so cool to cross pollinate with our tribe
and Corene tribe and create something beautiful for those you know,
four days that we had that retreat.

Speaker 2 (01:26:53):
Yeah, it was such an such an honor. And but
you're remembering, like you said, just remembering that we're all family.

Speaker 1 (01:27:00):
Mm hmm. That sounds fun. With another one coming up
in October, check it out www dot cre dot school.
We love you.

Speaker 2 (01:27:08):
Thank you, always have, always will.

Speaker 1 (01:27:11):
Always will dell on everybody. Hey, thank you so much
for watching this episode. I hope you enjoyed. I want
you to know that there is a video right here
that you can You can watch the video right by me.
Click thist.

Speaker 2 (01:27:26):
No, don't click his video. Click my video. His video
is probably about demons and dark stuff. Anyways, mine's probably
about angels and awesome stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:27:35):
She has a point. So you decide the demon or
the angel. What do you go with?

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