July 2, 2025 • 64 mins
Jerm and Ivor Cummins, a biochemical engineer and health researcher known for his work on chronic disease prevention, discuss the rapid changes in global events, focusing on the aftermath of COVID-19 and its effects on public perception and mental health. They explore the idea of mental resilience, emphasising the need to focus on what individuals can control. The chat shifts to nutrition, highlighting the 'Devil's Triad'—sugar, refined grains, and seed oils—as key drivers of modern chronic disease. Ivor shares his views on how diet and lifestyle affect health, cultural attitudes towards food, and the value of sustainable eating practices like hunting. They wrap up with thoughts on the future of health and nutrition, offering practical advice for listeners.https://www.ukcolumn.org/video/you-wont-win-if-youre-unhealthyJerm Warfare Archive: https://www.ukcolumn.org/series/jerm-warfare
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Ivor Cummins, thank you for joining me in the trenches.
No. Great to be back again.
Yeah, certainly interesting times, as the Chinese would say.
The last time you know I chattedwas a few years ago, actually.
Oh yeah. I mean, it was just, it was
comical to watch. I mean, obviously it's a
tragedy, but it has funny elements.
So COVID and all that nonsense went through and then suddenly
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it was dropped like a hot potato.
And I think it was because the game was up and the system was
realising, you know, a large minority of people know that
this thing is ridiculous, you know, with Omicron and all that
stuff. So across the UK and Ireland.
And then generally within a few days it just, it just got
dumped. But then Ukraine immediately
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replaced it. Like it was just a straight swap
of actors. And then we had monkey pox and
that failed bird flu. Recently more wars in the east.
It's just non stop kind of psyop, proxy war lunacy really.
And that's the world we live in.You know, you might as well get
used to it and not be phased by it.
I often try and advise people onmental health and mental
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strength and resilience and you just can't be getting phased
about stuff beyond your control.You must focus on your circle of
control, not the circle of concern.
But that's a long story. But yeah, that's what I try and
help people now with my workshops online on mental
strength and critical thinking, etcetera.
You know, it's just a time for people to do what they can to
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spread awareness, do what they can to resist the lunacy, but
not get down, not get miserable,not get nervous or anxious
because that gives a win to the bad guys.
You know, I, I try and explain that to people, even in the
family, if you get in any way down or nervous or apprehensive,
you know, it weakens you and thebad guy smiles.
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So you just can't allow that. How could you allow giving a win
to the evil mofos up top who aredriving this?
You can't do that. Come on guys.
People have now forgotten. It's that's just a psychological
defence mechanism. I mean you've gotten the
population as you well know, you've got around 30% who are
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lost who are just Marxist leftist, just will follow
anything, trust the experts regardless.
So 30% are gone, 10 or 20% critical thinkers on a good day,
you've got a big bunch in the middle who knows something's
wrong, but they don't want to stick their head up and be
called a conspiracy theorist, sothey keep their mouths shut.
That's roughly the population. But the 30% who are gone, they
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just automatically won't get into the topic because as far as
they're concerned, we did the right thing.
And then the masses in the middle kind of know something's
rotten and they worked it out inthe end and they realised the
conspiracy theorists were correct.
And that's very embarrassing andit's very difficult for self
esteem. So you have to forget it.
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It's kind of that is in a nutshell.
Yeah, the term conspiracy theorist became a thing.
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I'd come across it
somewhat because since 2013 I was out in YouTube about
cholesterol being nonsense and fat being healthy and
carbohydrate being the problem and all that stuff, you know,
low carb type stuff. So I'd come across it whenever
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you threaten industry or oligarchies, you'll begin to
come across it. But it was, you could ignore it.
It was just an amusement when a cholesterol expert lipidologist
would really lose his his nuts in an argument and you'd beat
him and then they'd start wailing conspiracy theorists.
So it's the lender of last resort.
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I mean, the most ridiculous kindof slur, but but that's all
you've got. But yeah, you're right.
Since COVID, it came out of the gates not as a lender last
resort, as a massive psyop, wallto wall psyop morning, noon and
night. Every single nuance of
questioning the experts got the label.
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So yeah, it was nuclear, nuclearfusion, thermonuclear device,
use of conspiracy theorists. And we know, of course, I
believe the the genesis is the CIA and the intelligence and the
military in America did a brilliant idea.
They had all these new weapons and he had lots of locals very
curious, particularly, you know,maybe anti government types.
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And people were sniffing. So they got this one idiot who
had a very fanciful imagination and they used Asians as fake
whistleblowers and they just fedhim information about aliens.
That's perfect. So this guy gets a following and
he goes out to him at aliens andsuddenly you've got all the
masses not looking at the ball and it's and it's perfect.
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And that's what they did again and again.
And it's like the big lie, the perfect thing.
Make the lie so big and so absurd that most people won't
believe it could possibly be a lie.
And we got loads of big lies, right?
These are very clever tricks andvery simple, but very effective.
Yeah, unfortunately. Would you go back to 20190?
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Wow, that's a question I often comment with the family and part
of it is to kind of make light of things towards what I
mentioned about having people. There's no point being anxious.
I mentioned that we're living inthe most exciting times.
I mean back in 2017 I was working full time as a manager,
technical manager and and mastertechnologist in corporate.
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So I was a corporate whore and life was OK.
I had all my cholesterol and fatand YouTube world and going
giving lectures around the worldon on interesting stuff.
So that was good. But now we we're living in a
world that is fascinating now itcarries a load of a threat.
There's a danger to the future of our children, our
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grandchildren. It's serious stuff.
It should be really disheartening and worrying, but
I'm inclined to say truthfully on behalf of the people which I
always work for. At the end of the day, I'd
rather it was 19 because I can'twish the lunacy of what's
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happening on people, right? That's not right.
But outside of that myself personally, yeah, I like the
excitement and and the thrill ofbattle against these evil
boogers. It makes life really
interesting. I I think it's all to play for.
We can lose and end up sharing the last cigarette, but in the
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15 minute city, it could happen.But if we did what we called
before that, we can be stoical about that or the whole thing
could roll over and collapse under its own weight, which
we've seen signs off regularly. So I think it's all to play for.
And I love the militaristic feelto it that we're not just moping
along like we did for decades. We're now involved in a kind of
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a great battle of sorts. It's very invigorating.
So I kind of, I'm, I'm caught onthat one to be honest.
Just before we started recording, had scrambled eggs
and bacon. Well, that's the perfect
breakfast. And in myself and Doctor
Gerber's book Eat Rich, Live Long, Yeah, we have 5060 recipes
and a chef, but yeah, we have many egg based breakfast style
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recipes. So the perfect breakfast is so
quick, all you need is, say, a half dozen eggs.
There's no point eating one or two eggs and it's a joke, you
know, it's like having one beer.Come on stupid.
But you get around 5 or 6 eggs and you make an omelette and you
can put in chopped chives and you can put in some mushroom or
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green Peppers. I like bell Peppers, not hot
Peppers, maybe some ham or whatever.
You throw in whatever you have and do this big omelette and
cover it in salt. It's delicious and it's a
superfood. Eggs are superfood.
Organ meats are superfood. Fatty, well reared meats are
superfoods. A fish or superfood?
These are the superfoods. The list I just gave, it kind of
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runs out after that. I mean, these leafy green
nonsenses, they're not superfoods.
They might have a few minerals and they're they've got some
utility, but superfoods are nutrient dense.
They're animal based foods. So yeah, that's a perfect
breakfast. And my wife even sometimes does
liver for breakfast. I'm not crazy on liver, I know,
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like my mother did when people were wise.
But I'm not crazy on organ meatsunless they're cooked just
right. But then I did develop a organ
ultra supplement with extended life in New Zealand for people
who don't like organ meats. You know, you still should get
the goodness. So that was a very terrible
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segue on my behalf. I went from 2019 to breakfast.
But I'm I'm doing that because that's your strength.
I mean, it's like over the last I just mentioned to people, this
is around 6789 years ago. When you think about it, you
don't want to get into conspiracy theories and I often
wanted to stay away from that with the low carbon nutrition
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work I did for a decade. But I would say to people, if
you look at all the health choices, even pre COVID that
were made by the authorities, think of it like flipping a coin
and tails is getting it wrong. Can you flip a coin 12/13/14
times and get it wrong in a row?We'll do the math.
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It's, it's extremely unlikely, but they got it wrong on
cholesterol, wrong on fat, wrongon the song, wrong on salt.
You go on and on over 50 years and probabilistically, you know,
it's not the constant stupidity that makes them get the wrong
answer every single time. And what it is, is it's industry
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and it's it's interests and theyalways push towards making the
population unhealthy because thefood industry, it needs cheap
poisonous foods to make money and to get shelf life like
vegetable oils and refined carbs.
They cost nothing and they give shelf life.
So and they're addictive. So they that's why the food
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industry does it. It's not a conspiracy theory,
but there's another benefit thatas people get fat and diabetic
from their food, they actually get more hungry and they eat
more. So there's a built in growth for
their Wall Street numbers, right?
And they know this at the top. So the food industry is doing it
for all those reasons and they're funding the nutritional
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colleges. Most of the money now is
flooding from industry to fund the nutrition councils and
training of nutritionists. So they've captured the whole
space as corporates do. But then you've got big Pharma
and they fund nonsense, of course, because they make so
much money from the cholesterol nonsense.
But also there's a kind of a synergy there.
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The food industry is feeding them customers by making people
sick so they can sell their antihypertensives and all their
other junk and their cancer medicines, to be quite honest.
So you've got these two biggest industries in the world, big
pharma, big food, massive industries with lobbying up the
wazoo and practical ownership ofthe FDA and their food
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regulation authorities and what to expect?
Yeah, the coin is keep will keepflipping on the wrong side for
1/2 century. So there's no conspiracy.
There is a conspiracy, but it's so obvious.
It's it's not like subtle or hidden and that that's the whole
food and pharma. And when COVID came up, of
course, you don't have to think about it for a nanosecond.
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The authorities were pushing this ridiculousness for the
vaccine, which probably is for the global digital ID for CBDC
down the road. Fine.
So that's obvious. But they want the people to be
sicker and more depressed and locked down because it makes
them malleable and it works withthe COVID programme.
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So yeah, they're going to stop everything healthy and and just
have them as sick and deranged as possible.
Why not? And and that was it.
It was pretty. They're pretty sick puppies.
I mean, up top, you know, a lot of useful idiots down lower.
I mean, if we're honest about it, and I went through this in
many videos, most of the officials driving this were
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largely hypnotised themselves. Deep down they probably thought
this is a bit ridiculous, but they know that their job and
their salary depended on gettingon board, but they kind of
convinced themselves it was somewhat legitimate.
That's the massive army of useful idiots across the world.
But if you move up the top, it'sa relatively small number of
people who pulled all the strings.
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I mean, a great example. I'll finish on this.
The masks. The masks in summer of 2020
across Europe and America. Astonishing.
And I thought, right, we've got the whole summer till next
winter now. And our group of doctors and
professors in Ireland, COVID recovery, I told them art of
war. We own the terrain now.
From April, May, right through to probably October, the virus
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will awaken or the whole winter thing will start.
We own the territory, so let's make hay while the sun shines.
And then the clever boogers up the top and no one knows exactly
who or what panel it came from. So high up you couldn't tell
where it came from. But very high up the word came
down the pyramidal structure mask, those little boogers.
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And it happened within a week ortwo with prison sentences and
fines came in coincident with the masks.
They didn't bring in the masks in the middle of the summer when
the hospitals were empty and nothing was happening, which is
absurd as it stands because people would say hold on a
minute. So they brought them in with the
prison sentences and emergency laws so they could force it home
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from the get go. And they did.
We had an Irish granny down in Cork who refused to wear them
and she went to court several times and they put her in prison
for a few days for not wearing afilthy piece of cloth over her
face. So it's crazy isn't it?
They are sick puppies. Other than vaccines and
mainstream media, what are the chronic causes of disease?
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Again, or disease. Yeah, I have a simple thing just
for lay people, and I say OK, Devil's triad. 2 words.
Devil's triad. What's the devil's triad?
It's the root, the largest root of modern chronic disease across
the board, whether it's type 2 diabetes which causes nearly all
heart attacks or heart attacks, which are nearly all type 2
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diabetes, or any of Alzheimer's,which some would call type 3
diabetes. So you see where I'm going here
and Parkinson's, one or two havebegun to suggest type 4
diabetes. So this insulin resistance,
hyperinsulinemia, blood glucose malady is probably 80% now of
Americans over 45 are essentially diabetic at some
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level. So this is the big thing.
So what's the root or the, the, the, the, the pillar that that
is built on all that suffering. Devil's triad sugar, refined
grains, refined wheats and seed oils made in chemical plants,
the vegetable oils supposedly heart healthy that are
inflammatory and toxic, disgusting milk.
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And that's the devil's triad. And the problem with the devil's
triad is if you generally don't eat sugar, which is great, and
you don't buy bottles of seed oils or use them, that's great.
And you don't use refined grains, you know, and you don't
really use wheat at all, you're personally, that's great.
There's still a massive problem.This is what gets people.
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Ultra processed foods are around55% of the calories eaten in the
UK in the BMJ report a few yearsago.
Ultra processed roots or foods are built on the devil's triad.
So you got to be a label reader because most of the foods you're
reaching out. I'll give an example.
Seed oils. I mentioned dreadful.
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OK, Hellman's mayonnaise, big brand, look in the back,
delicious mayonnaise with eggs and stuff.
Really healthy. Yeah, 78% seed oil, 4/5 almost
seed oil. And that's just an illustration.
You got to read the labels and the first few ingredients, the
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ingredients are legally put in order of the amount of them.
So in the first several ingredients, if you see real
food and good stuff and then down the bottom, maybe there's a
little bit of something might beOK.
But when you see Hellman 78% seed oil up the top, wow, enjoy
poisoning yourself. And, and this is the problem
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Devil's Triad, which the processed food empire is built
on. And it's most of our calories
nowadays that that's the big thing.
And then if you add in the otherthings, a lack of nutrient dense
meat, fish and eggs and organ meats is a problem.
Minerals and vitamins of varioussorts depending on the person
can be a problem, but we don't. Each person's different.
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But magnesium, potassium and a few other key ones are important
or you probably have problems and lack of sun exposure.
UV, vitamin D, nitric oxide, allthe stuff you get from sun
exposure. A lack of that is a risk for
chronic disease. And then the lack of exercise
I'd acknowledge. But I think if you just do
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resistance training 20 minutes twice a week and do some weights
to failure and press UPS, you'llkind of cover the the exercise
gap. You don't need to do much. 50
minutes a week you'll you'll probably tick that box.
There's probably other things I've forgotten but if you fixed
all those things, remove the devil's triad ultra processed
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food. Eat meat, fish and eggs and
nutrient dense food primarily. Do a little bit of good
exercise. Get as much sun as you can
without burning without burning and a few more things.
If everyone did that, chronic disease would just fall off a
Cliff over the next weeks, months, years, and most of
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pharma would kind of have to shut down because hypertension
would disappear. I mean, it would be, it would be
astonishing if that were done, but the industry is making sure
that that will not be done, of course.
When you talk about these things, people tend to push back
a lot, particularly when you say, well you must cut back on
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your sugar or your or your. Carbs.
I eat pasta and I'm healthy and look at look at India and and
look at China with all the rice.Yeah, absolutely.
The whole, the whole Japan, China, India Blue Zones thing,
it does confuse a lot of people.So if you're eating rice,
unprocessed rice with 0 vegetable oils or wheats, let's
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say, and your subsistence peoplewho has to struggle to get
enough food, lean and needy likethese vast populations.
If you're a subsistence and you're using rice as a base
calorie and you're getting just enough to keep you going along
with these ancient peoples in the old days always targeted
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nutrient dense foods. They made sure they got hold of
whatever fish or whatever meat they could get.
It was highly prized. So you're targeting nutrient
dense foods, but in fairness, there ain't easy to get.
So you need basic bulk calories as well, like rice if you live
in that way out in the sun with healthy.
Non stressed kind of traditionalsocietal values, not the modern
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stress. So you don't have that problem.
You've got these meats, fish andeggs and these bulk calories
from rice and you live like thatin a subsistence level.
You won't get diabetes. You won't get any problems.
OK. But yeah, if you are a Western
person now who's overweight witha little bit of an issue from
eating the processed food in theDevil's triad, it is absolutely
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a very tricky path to try and doan ancestral Indian diet.
You still have to remove all vegetable oils and sugars.
Remember that you have to removerefined wheats because wheat is
in independently toxic. So you still got to do most of
the stuff. But you eat mostly rice now and
fish and meat, but you got to eat it really sparingly.
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Remember subsistence? So no one in the West is going
to replicate fat ancestral type scenario.
So comparing to it is absurd. But a lot of people don't get
the nuances and what I just said.
They like you said, they just say oh, but they eat rice.
Well, India by the way is diabetes ridden, right?
There's foot feet coming off in India, Italy or in India being
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amputated every 5 seconds. So once the vegetable oils got
into India and the modern sugarydrinks and the other stuff, they
just exploded in diabetes. Japan's not too bad, but again,
Japan were doing the same thing.Women would titrate the amount
of rice they eat to maintain their body weight at an
acceptable level. So if Japanese women, this goes
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back 100 years or more, this wasdocumented, I think turning the
century. If a woman had an illness and
got very skinny or was hospitalised and needed to put
on weight, they'd, they'd increased their right portion,
they knew it would build weight.And if a woman was a bit fat,
she would reduce her rice and focus on the meat, fish and egg
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side. And the French women were the
same with bread. They titrated bread.
The joke in France decades ago was go over 25.
You got to start being real careful with your bread.
So all of this stuff is understood.
But to the layperson, you know what you said, they, they have a
simplistic view of it. It's tricky.
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I go hunting, so I guess I'm already a few points ahead of
everybody else who buys the meatfrom the store.
No, that's that's perfect. And and it will tend to be
leaner meat in general, but thatdoesn't matter now if that's
where the flavour is. And a lot of vitamins just.
Just just cook it in butter. Exactly.
You can add that's the perfect thing.
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And in Ireland, funny enough, not because we're all super
planned and strategic around having healthy meats, we just
happen to have such vast grasslands that grass fed is the
economical way to have the herdsin Ireland and still largely is.
So we automatically get grass fed healthy.
And we we banned all these antibiotics that America allows
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completely legally. So Ireland happens to have grass
fed super meats. And even McDonald's in Ireland
uses 100% Irish beef in the patties.
No wheat, no nothing. They get the fat content high
enough it's a binder and the patties.
If you go in an order like 6 or three double cheeseburgers and
you throw away the bones, you'reeating nutrient dense superfood.
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People don't. People get confused about that
as well. They think everything in
McDonald's is junk. Depends on the country.
I'm not sure about the patties in other countries but in
Ireland you've got superfood McDonald's.
If you don't take the drink or the vegetable oil soaked thighs
and you throw away the bones, you got superfood, the sauce,
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the sauce. But again, the dose defines the
poison. So I looked up years ago what
was in McDonald's sauce and to be honest, it's sugary.
But the little dab that they puton the burger, I wouldn't get
too anal about it. Like you're talking less than
the teaspoon of sugar. And to be fair, yeah, it's very
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small, but wipe it off if you want to be purist.
But the main thing is the bones,the fries, the drinks and
everything else but the parties.Boom.
Is that why everybody has becomefat?
Yeah, essentially. I mean, look, it's a complex
thing because they're second order effects.
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So you know, when people begin to get fat, they bestow fatness
propensity upon their children. So women who are insulin
resistant kind of predispose their babies to come out of the
at birth as insulin, high insulin, insulin resistance.
So you're, you're make, you're making a problem as you begin to
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get fat that's getting 2nd orderroll on effects.
And that's why the curve went upso bad since the 70s and 80s.
It's just, it's just like an Inflexion point straight up and
then it levels off as it reachesabsurdity.
That's where we are now. But this problem, even if you
fix the food supply because of the 2nd order effects on all the
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fat mothers and all this, there's nothing sexist about
that by the way. It's just a biochemical fact.
Very overweight insulin resistant mothers create part of
another added problem. So if you kind of begin to fix
things, the obesity won't come down really quickly because
you've built a hysteresis into the problem.
It's become so big and it's got inertia.
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But but that aside, what caused it broadly, it was not lack of
exercise. People often try to say we
stopped exercising. Well in the 70s and 80s, they
changed the food guidelines and they basically worked with
industry and said eat vegetable oils and eat carbs.
And they meant give them some credit.
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They meant eat low. Fat everything's everything was
low fat. Oh, exactly.
But but because it was low fat, you've got to eat something
else. And the answer was eat vegetable
oils because they're not saturated fat and eat
carbohydrates. So the low fat obsession just
led to eat this crap. And to give them credit, a lot
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of them did intend you to eat lots of vegetables carbs.
But what happened was industry came in with the refined wheat
and it was inevitable the carbs people were going to start
eating. We're going to be refined carbs
because that's how our industry was going.
So the reality they had the devil's triad since the 70s and
80's, the devil's triad exploded, which I mentioned is
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the root of modern chronic disease.
The devil's triad was just blessed by academia and the
experts as what you should eat. So they blessed the Devil's
triad. So go figure.
And and then the obesity and diabetes just just took off.
And during that period in engineering and I do a critical
thinking master class online nowand you know, there's
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comparative analysis, Kepner Trego and you look at what
happened and the different States and you do compares.
Well, what did come up with the problem?
What did not come up? And the hilarious thing is the
red meat that they talk nonsenseabout.
That's all geopolitical. There's nothing to do with
health but all this anti meat thing.
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The red meat per capita came down across those 40 years while
the problems went up and what went into up was vegetable oils
and carbs. Clearly the red meat went down
and what it went up was chicken,but real, real nutrient dense
red meat went down. So at one glance you can tell
well and the exercise, the exercise did not change enough
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to have any real impact on this.Lack of exercise is certainly
now a problem in the last 20 years, but the curve was heading
a way up without the exercise changing.
In fact, there were periods of obsession with gyms going on in
the 80s and 90s. There was a boom and all that
fond of crap. And so, yeah, it's just so
simple. I mean, that's just what
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happened. That's it.
I grind my beans and I drink coffee with cream.
I've tried it with butter. I've tried.
It with butter, it's just too rich.
Yeah. On the top, little bubbles of
oily buttery. The flavour of butter is
delicious melted onto some things, but in coffee it doesn't
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work. Yeah, I agree.
No, that doesn't work. And and then have bacon and eggs
or have some sort of high fat breakfast and you, you sorted
for the day. Absolutely.
And then you know, and then lastnight, for example, I made a
rump steak. I fried it in a bit of olive oil
and and butter. I'm not.
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I want to ask you about olive oil.
And, and, and I did a type of very simple salady thing on the
side with carrot and beet, not beetroot, cabbage, ginger, one
and one or two other things. It was delicious and very low
carbs. Yeah.
And you feel great. Oh, and I had a glass of red
wine with my wife and I feel amazing.
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Yeah, I usually have bit too much of the wine.
That's that's my only naughty risk.
That's why I said, that's why I said a glass, because I'm, I'm
very liberal with what a glass means.
Well, you know, I won't ever like and agree with you.
Yeah, a glass. But do you know the comedy
glasses that they dish and some of the mean?
That's probably about the glass I have.
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But yeah, I mean it's, I mean it's.
A glass that It's a glass that holds 750 miles.
Yeah, I'm familiar. Do do as I say, not as I do.
And I'm often honest in my weight loss master class and
health. I did one last night actually 2
1/2 hours roughly. I have the green screen up here
by the way, but I couldn't do a background on Riverside.
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But but behind the screen is a 75 inch touchscreen, a big
Samsung. So I do a class with a black
kind of curtain and this huge screen and you can do
interactive examples. It's actually working pretty
well. But then yeah, I mean, that's
that's I have one meal a day. Generally it works for me.
It keeps my life simple all day long from when I get up.
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I have the coffee with double cream so I'm not totally fasted,
but I'm not anal about it. And all day long I can work with
no interruptions for lunches, breakfast, yada, yada, yada.
And I know at the end of the dayat 5:00 or 6:00 PM, I'm going to
have my evening meal and I look forward to it.
And hunger is a good sauce, right?
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So I'm not too hungry during theday.
I'm fine. It's a habit now, but but I know
what's coming. And I really, you know, I really
enjoy it when it comes women, I think, and I explained this last
night as I always do, broadly females, 2 meals a day seems to
work a bit better and males, it seems one meal a day is
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achievable by anyone. Once you get fat adapted and
you're off the carbs for a week or two and you level out and you
can burn your own fat with impunity, then you can merge to
one meal a day and change your life.
It's the way to go, it's the wayto go.
You know another funny thing, German just occurs to me a
performance drug. So for me, fasting is a
performance drug. Now that sounds silly, right?
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That sounds like a acupuncture or homoeopathy or whatever you
want to say. No offence to people who are
into that, but you know, things that would not be automatically
obviously good. I when I was giving lectures
back 2015 sixteen, I was new to big audiences outside of
corporate. So I'd done big talks in
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corporate with 5080 people, but now it's beginning to be invited
to conferences with 56800 people.
And it was new to me. So one of the edges I used and
it worked great. I would not eat anything for at
least 24 hours or maybe 28 or 9 before I went on stage.
And I go on stage completely fasted my brain running probably
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60% on beta hydroxybutyrate fromthe ketogenic state I was in and
40% glucose, whereas everyone runs on 100% glucose.
I think that's part of it and brain derived neuropathic factor
goes up with BHB from keto. So lots of papers in this
showing the brain works differently and it works better
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in that state. So it was a performance drug and
to be quite honest, I'd be scared to go on stage in those
days if you forced me to eat a meal two or three hours before,
I'd actually be concerned. Now, after a while, I could get
open front 50,000 now and I couldn't care less.
But back then in the early days,it was an edge and it is an
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edge. And I think evolutionarily this
is just a guess. I have not seen this written,
but if you have no food for 24 hours in ancient times, that
usually wasn't because you wanted to fit in a nice dress,
right? That was because you didn't have
food. And that's as dangerous as it
gets in the wild. So I think in the first few
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hours after food, you feel hunger because the system wants
to make sure you keep nourishingyourself.
That's OK. But after around 24 hours and I
hear a two days, you get a kind of euphoria of clarity.
Well, that makes sense because after a day or two with no food,
you're now at high risk as far as the system's concerned.
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So you can't be going around muddled from lack of food.
You need to be the opposite. You need to be hyper hunter,
right? So you got to work.
You got to fix something here oryou're dead.
So I think that's part of why when the brain switches over
with lack of food to beta hydroxybutyrate, it operates at
a sharper, more clarifying level.
Your your, your responses. Everything gets clearer.
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It's hard to describe because most people don't go 24 hours
without food. You should try it, it's amazing.
But I've you're just talking nonsense, all that's required is
just a balanced diet. And eat a little and often,
regularly, 6 or 7 times a day. That's what industry says.
Don't skip your breakfast. Have a snack if you feel hungry.
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A healthy carbohydrate snack. Yeah, go figure.
It's like the coin again, right?It flipped up.
It flipped on the wrong side again.
They tell you to eat regularly. That's not good.
Because when you eat and digest,it takes quite a bit of energy.
And hormones all rise and changeand all of that disturbance is
not ideal, but you need to do itbecause you need to eat.
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But if you eat the right foods, it minimises it.
And if you only eat once a day, you get 24 hours of the day each
day. You are free from all those
hormonal disturbances and all that machinery having to work.
I mean, it's just super ideal todo 1 meal a day for Homo
sapiens. And I think that's
evolutionarily that's what kind of happened.
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Hunters got up and they weren't going to sit down to a big feast
of eggs and whatever. Generally they went out hunting
all day and I think generally then they feasted when they got
back with the kill. I think that's broadly our
heritage and you're you're maintaining that heritage now.
Personally, I like that with thehunting.
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I mean, can you hunt in Ireland?Oh yes, I was from the age of 13
or 14. I was very lucky as a city boy.
My pal locally in Dublin City isFather of the Farm around 50
miles away in the middle of nowhere and we got to go down
Wednesday nights and weekends for years doing turf hay baling
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in the summer, fencing cattle moving cattle crushing, painful
and all of that stuff. And he would also, he was very
libertarian and he'd say be careful with those guns lads.
This is what Mr Quinn would say.But he would allow us to take
the double barrel, 12 bar and the single barrel with us when
we were 14, maybe 13, and go down the fields and down to the
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bog and the furs with our pockets full of cartridges.
And he just told us to be careful.
But he let us that freedom, which was fantastic.
Nowadays it's the opposite, as you know, and that's the way it
should be. Occasionally 11 accidents.
Look, shit happens, but kids need to be out there doing and
learning. He would also let us take the
tractor, the Massey 35X, the classic old tractor, and he
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would let us take that on the little public road and go a
couple of miles to go fishing. So we go fishing in the tractor.
We had transport at the age of 14.
It was fantastic, but hunting mainly pigeons, you know,
pheasant, occasionally rabbits, but the mix of A totals, it
wasn't good for rabbits in my day and the occasional fox
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because they were kind of predators that were caused quite
a bit of trouble. And just vermin also.
But pigeons, you go out and stubbles with plastic decoy
pigeons, you're sure you're wellaware.
And when you get it going, you can come back with a dozen
pigeons. And you know, you pluck the
breast, it's not where roasting them.
But if you pluck the breast and just take the breast meat off,
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garlic and butter in the pan, lots of butter.
Delicious. I've never shot a bird.
Oh, an avian. Hopefully that's nasty.
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When I talk about hunting, I talk about generally antelope
back. Yeah, that's the classic South
African 2015. I was into Cape Town because my
funder at the time covered the trip because I was going to the
first big low carb conference, Knox's.
And it was great because everyone there I found out knew
me from my Youtubes. So I was a bit embarrassed going
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in. But Knox, when he saw me, ran
over and gave me a bear hug and I never even spoken to him
because he knew about my cholesterol conundrum video that
went viral and he'd referenced it on radio shows, which is
great. But I was there and we got the
meats and they brought us out aswell.
We went out on a not a safari. We went to a wine producing
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place on a bus ride towards Johannesburg and we went for
probably 50 minutes. But it was beautiful and we had
all these meats like you know, wild meats and it was just
fantastic experience. It was superb, superb.
Tim he's the reason why I changed my lifestyle.
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He's a great, great man and he was on my show a few weeks ago.
Great. Yeah, I'm sorry.
Go on. What I was going to say that I,
they invited me to their big nutrition conferences going on
around now, but you know, I've just, I have a lot of stuff on.
I would have loved to go on, butit's 1314 hours flight and stuff
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going on with family at home. Like it didn't suit.
But I would have loved to go back and meet them all.
But I hope it goes well for them.
Yeah, that flight, that's the killer.
It's, I, I travelled a lot on business to Singapore and
sometimes China and Thailand with my corporate, you know,
when we had huge factory bills going on.
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And yeah, Singapore, it's kind of tough From London, you go to
London, it's an hour and then you got your 12 1/2 hour.
It's long, but I kind of got used to it.
And nowadays I think the thing for flights is I need to
download using, I don't pay YouTube.
I use the YouTube downloaders. And I download a lot of
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interesting material. Well, I mean, I don't make them,
so I'm not doing anything illegal.
They can follow it up. But why 12D?
Or there's all these different named ones.
But you know what? They're very clever.
I know you're kind of into IT. What they do is now the YouTube
downloaders used to just download it in 1080, just put it
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in. And sometimes they pop up ads,
sometimes not. But now what?
They do the good ones. You can download it in 360 P
poor definition which is fine for the phone, for the airline,
for on a plane. But if you want the high
definition you can download the video and you can separately
download the audio but not the two together.
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But the great thing is you can always download both and if you
video edit like you do you just put them back together but the
layperson can't get them easily.But luckily I can, so it was
just a side thought. But yeah, play it.
It's a long journey now. It's not time zone, it's only an
hour or two time zone different.So the least there isn't that
like West Coast with the 8 hoursor Singapore with the 8 hours
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and the 12 hours flights is tougher than South Africa I.
Was going to say what do you useto shoot?
Pigeons, all the classic shotgun, a couple of shotguns
and I have one since I was 17. I My first shotgun I bought was
A5 shot pump action Remington. I was probably watching too much
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American TV and I quickly I realised it was not a proper
hunting gun and yeah, it didn't even fit me well.
I could tell I was hitting very little.
So I had made a stock for my friend's father, that great guy
I mentioned, he had a broken stock gun and I made when I
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carved it from a block of walnutthat I bought in Chatham's in
Dublin, a timber importer. And I said I wonder could I make
one? And I did and it worked well.
I carved it with spoke shaves, shaped all handling and machined
out the action with chisels and it worked great.
So I said to myself then I wonder does any of the gun
dealers in Dublin have one with a broken stock?
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And I asked them and 1 gun dealer had a nice little mariks
of Spanish side by side, you know, not an amazing gun but a
nice little Spanish gun. And I convinced him to sell it
to me. And he was very cynical.
He said, oh, you can't make a handle for a stock for this and
all those 3 tonnes pressure whenyou fire a shotgun and a lot of
pressure. Of course he was mixing up the
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pressure in the barrel and the actual, you know, impulse to
your shoulder. But anyway, so when I went back
a couple of weeks later with thenew stock, French polished, he
wasn't laughing then. So I've had that since I was 17.
I have another shotgun. I have a high powered hunting
air rifle and air arms. Lovely, lovely 22 proper 32
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jewel. So like you can take out say a
pigeon at 50-60 yards no problem.
And yeah, that's, that's what I have.
I sold my rifle many years ago because I wasn't using it much
in Ireland. Maybe it's a good thing to have
nowadays, the way things are. What rifle didn't?
So which rifle did you sell? Oh, I sold it in my mid 20s.
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It was a Bruno Czechoslovakian Brno 22 with A5.
It was a lovely little go on andI sold it because I just wasn't
using it. But in A5 shot magazine.
But it was just a 22 standard long rifle.
So probably if I was going to get a rifle now and there are
some people doing deer in Ireland and I do have
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connections. During COVID one guy wrote to me
and he's big into it and he offered to bring me out and I
never followed up. I was too busy so but I'd look
into that and then get somethingkind of proper like a 223 or
something maybe. You mentioned Czechoslovakian.
I've got a Czechoslovakian rifle.
I've got a CZ 600. It's a 3/8.
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Three, eight. Yeah, that's more like it. 3
three O 8 not 380. Sorry, I'm thinking yeah, 38
Special calibre, but no, no, no,of course three O 8 is common
hunting. Yeah.
What are you going to hand with the 3/8?
Well, that's what you said There's I thought it was 38
calibre, but obviously not the New York cops Snoop Nose.
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But I I didn't know that there wasn't a 38 calibre rifle.
Hunting rifle sure, there's probably all kinds of stuff
because if you watch these guys in America, my son was watching
them like demolition ranch and there's these guys in Texas with
big YouTube channels and they'refiring all kinds of arms.
So you do get to see every calibre you could dream of,
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including, well, the, well, of course, the classic 50 Cal, the
the BMG or the what's the. I've shot that, I've shot that.
That's incredible. That's a weapon, my God, but
they've all other ones as well. He had a handgun that was I
think there's maybe 50 Cal magnum in a snub nose made a big
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joke firing it and he's holding it like wincing, but like with
the little mass of a snub nose type revolver.
But the chambers around that long and the and the barrels
that long huge magnum bullet andhe's holding it next with hands
come right back. But the Americans are are crazy,
but in a good way. But fat Americans are very fat
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now. It's astonishing.
So you've seen the like. It's just, it's just hilarious.
Stuff. Yeah, I mean, it's like that
movie, you know, Wally or whatever where they're going
around in in floating cars. But if you look at what was the
big rock concert again, God, themassive mega in in America, we
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sometimes show pictures of it, The Rolling Stones and everyone
are there. Oh, it just rain fart here.
The huge open hair concerts. Anyway, there were a few of them
and beach stock. Woodstock, Woodstock.
All I can think was Rolling Stones, Rolling Stones for some
reason. So Woodstock and all the
pictures you see them all guys in their mid 20s, gals in their
mid 20s. They're all like they look
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nowadays. People would say to them, Are
you sure you're OK? Because relatively they worry
about people who are that slim. Everyone is that slim.
And one in 50 or one in 20 in the school was a fatty.
They were just addicted to carbsback in the day before everyone
else was. And you just look at it and they
weren't. They were two car families in
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the 50s in America. Everyone was driving everywhere
from the 50s. So the 50s through to the 70s
and 80s, driving was the thing. Kids were driving any everyone
was driving. And so there wasn't any more
exercise per SE. But then the Devil's triad came
in high volume food and gas stations.
Everywhere you turned was the Devil's triad and then it just
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took off. So now the Americans, now it's
comical. I mean, particularly I, I, I
transferred flights there in Minnesota once.
It's just, you're just looking around the airport.
I mean, there's a lot of these electric carts to move people.
They need to be helped to move around the airport like it's.
It's shocking. Is there?
Is there like a default? Ah well, I saw the norm in
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Sweden back around 2007. Even in Stockholm my wife's
brother treated us to a weekend away because we had a load of
kids that were under a lot of pressure.
Fair enough, and it was nice, nice thing to do.
We went to Stockholm and our jaws dropped.
Even compared to Ireland in 2007we were looking at Woodstock in
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Stockholm. So there you go.
So you don't have to go back toofar.
Now Sweden, that's another problem.
Sweden now is destroyed with themass migration.
So you go to Sweden now and it'sdifferent matter, especially
Malmo. So they got they got marked for
destruction clearly like Germanyand and all the other countries.
But yeah, even even back. And I was in Romania at a
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corporate management training and then I brought my wife over
after the three days and tense kind of, you know, these
corporate gigs, you're all looking at the latest concepts
and doing worked examples and you're stuck with the morning
till night for three days. Well, they did one of those in
Romania and they'd European corporate guys from our
corporate there. But myself and a wife walked
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around Romania, Bucharest and that was probably around 2000.
That could have been 2014 or 15.And I tell you Woodstock
everywhere. So you don't have to go back too
far. It all depends on when the
pipeline of American style devil's triad ultra processed
food took over your population. Always.
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That's when it goes up. So for guys, what is a generally
good body fat percentage? Oh well, the Super fits are down
at 7 or 8%, but I guess 12 or 13is not too bad.
You know one for Doctor Ted Naman Palomine on the West
Coast. He loves practical because he's
an engineer and then became a doctor.
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And one of the things he said tome, and he's right, BMI is
worthless, means nothing. You have big rugby player who's
a slab of pure muscle, right, zero diabetes and the BMI could
be like 32. So it's meaningless.
It's a meaningless figure. BMI, it means nothing, almost
nothing. Waist to height ratio, This is
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hard to achieve. But if you look at those guys in
Bucharest or Woodstock, broadly speaking, a lot of people will
be getting close to a 2 to 1 waist to height ratio.
And as he says, when you measurethe waist, it's not like you
just stand there relaxed and youput a tape around your belly
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button gently. That's your actual waist.
And if your waist to high is 2 or even close to two like 1.9,
that's the ultimate measure. How many people Now take out the
tape measure, walk into any western city and get 100 people
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lined up. Lift up their shirts, try not to
get into trouble and measure their height and measure them
relaxed around the belly button.If you get 1 is a Hong Kong.
Yeah, when I was when I was in Hong Kong last year, I saw
almost no fat people. Fair enough, but Hong Kong is
the highest meat per capita consumption in the world and the
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longest. Basically longevity and what you
said highest meat consumption per capita which is just another
interesting fact. So The Who are liars with their
anti meat in. Actual fact, somebody there told
me that it's culturally unacceptable for women to be
fat, so they look down on fat woman.
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Misogynism, you know, these days, Yeah.
Well, and yeah, a lot of cultures.
Now, there's other cultures, in fairness, like, you know, in
Africa, a very, a very large woman may help survive through
very bad periods. And then they would store, you
know, the booty thing actually has some genetic background
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where if you store a lot of fat around the waist, it doesn't
interrupt your walking and movement.
You know, it's stored around your midpoint and it's a massive
store to save you against famineand childbirth was important.
So there are all these cultures where women who are carrying
extra ballast. It was seen as survival and
health. But yeah, in Hong Kong, it
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sounds like not so much. But, you know, we've been
programmed now. You've seen all the stuff about.
You've seen the ads from Ralph Lauren or whatever, 1980s or
90s. You have the Super slim sculpted
man in his underpants and a woman in a bra and paying the
famous lady was a Twiggy or one of them did the famous Ralph
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Lauren or maybe was Armani. 1990s, super slim, beautiful,
tanned, you know, perfect examples of male and female like
native Indian, male and female like Hong Kong.
Maybe that is the blueprint for Homo sapiens, male, female.
And now what do we got? They got two big fat blobs, you
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know, kind of trans covered in tattoos, big man boobs.
That's Armani now. So actually that is beautiful.
It's laughable, risible, It's comical and I'm not, I would
never be anti or or fat shaming.Occasionally when I'm drunk, I
maybe do the wrong tweet, but generally I won't fat shame
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because I lecture in mental strength, resilience.
I got huge empathy and I've worked in weight loss with a lot
of people for a long time. So I wouldn't fat shame.
But outside of individual named people, it's absurd.
And and they're trying to teach us that not only is it not
absurd and it's not, and there isn't an obvious answer as to
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why, right. They also want to teach us.
No, it's, it's normal. It's it's.
Good. Some something I do quite often
when I'm in the shop and I'm in the checkout line, I always have
a look to see what other people have bought.
And do you do the same, particularly with food?
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It's fascinating and you will see the same trend every time
either fat people buy ridiculously bad.
Food. They do and it's tiered.
So the worst case is the fat person who doesn't give a flying
F and they have all the like standard original sugar, Coca
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Cola, maybe all the bread and all the junk food.
They just don't care. That's a chunk.
Then there's a chunk, God bless them who are fat people who who
would clearly like to be not fatbecause they've got loads of low
fat products and plenty type products in their trolley.
And God bless them, they don't realise that they're making it
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worse for themselves, but they are trying.
You see, they're trying, you know, and, and then you've got
the slim lean people and you just notice generally they've,
they've got smaller trolleys andthey tend to be meat, fish and
eggs and real food and then somevegetables and, you know, coffee
and cream. So that's my trolley when I go,
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when I go into the supermarket, it's hilarious.
We do buy more than that. But whenever I go and I don't
know what's needed for the pantry at home, I come out with
very heavy bags that are very expensive per bag.
You know, it's a big bill, but it's OK because I have nutrient
density and value density. I buy a load of meat, a couple
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of boxes of 12 of eggs. I get cheese and ham and meat to
cook in the oven. And I guess maybe 3 or 4 double
creams because we go through three or four every few days.
Double cream 250 mils. That's the way it is and I have
this bag. 250 mils. Sorry that's that's not very
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much. I buy a litre.
True. In Ireland sometimes with double
cream, they don't always have it.
They sometimes have half litres,but mostly it's two 50s.
It's, you know, the standard cream comes in the litre
regularly enough, but the doublecream, yeah, small packets, but
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that's where. I buy.
Yeah. Double cream.
Sorry, sorry, sorry. Yes, that's a good point.
Yeah, it's just the way they do it.
It's perceived as smaller packaging because it's more
concentrated, yada, yada, yada. I don't know, but but I always
just grab around four of them and there might be two or three
at home already, but that's fine.
If the seven, they get used wellwithin the date and we have the
top of the fridge double cream and I always because I'm
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relaying all, I reordered them in their dates to put the oldest
date at the back just goes, you know, makes sense.
Whereas the kids mix them up, but we just keep using them, you
know, and they go down, down, down.
Then you got to put four more in.
So the family really is a lot ofcream.
It's Irish double cream from grass fed cattle.
I mean the stuff is gold. It's gold.
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Well. Isn't what's also Golden Island
is potatoes? Yeah, potato.
Well, I go through my weight loss master class, the potato
diet and the fad diets, and the potato diet works.
It's just an interesting aside. It works because of ultra low
palatability. So the true potato diet, you
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can't put butter all over them and make them tasty.
You just eat potatoes. You try munching true potatoes,
cooked potatoes. So the reason people can
actually succeed on a potato diet is they've limited
themselves to the least palatable food on the planet,
practically. And as a result, they just don't
feel like eating it. And they reduce their calories
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and they lose weight. But it's a scam.
It's how sustainable is that? It's a joke.
But potatoes, Another interesting thing about
potatoes, people say, well, the Irish ate potatoes and they were
all skinny. Yeah, because they were
subsistence. They were getting rabbits and
fish and meat at a high premium.They knew.
And they had dairy, mega dairy in Ireland going back thousands
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of years. So yeah, they were filling in
necessary calories with kind of basic potato glucose.
But, you know, they were subsistence.
So they never got fat and they never got diabetic.
But if you keep eating loads of potatoes and you introduce the
devil's triad in a modern setting, boom, you're diabetic
in a few years. That's.
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It the one that gets me every time is when fat, when fat
people switch sugar for xylitol or diabetic something that's
they call it sugar free or what's it diabetic friendly
sugar or whatever. Yeah, it's the same thing.
It's it's well, it's the sugar alcohols.
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You could make an argument that if you want sweeteners and it's
a tricky, I always say in the weight loss, it's tricky because
you're better off getting away from the sweet taste and
triggering yourself. And then if you eat real food,
you'll begin to savour it. And then if you went back to
some sugar, it tastes disgusting.
So you want to get in that mode.But if you really must use a
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sweetener for a treat or something or added to ice cream,
or you want of ice cream, but you want to make healthy ice
cream yourself and something like a Ritz or tall, it's a
sugar alcohol that doesn't get metabolised.
So it just kind of goes through.So if you eat a lot of it, you
might start farting as well because bugs in your stomach
might eat some of it. But you know what?
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It's got a place maybe. But I'd say I'd advise just just
move away from sweetness and getsavoury and make it your new
life and just walk away from that problem.
Or you could get dragged back inagain, you know?
Give me a nugget of wisdom. Oh God, we went through the
Nuggets on health. Hudson's razor.
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You know Nick Hudson, right? We drink too much wine.
Yeah, enjoy your wine sensibly. Stay safe.
But no Hudson's razor. I just love that.
And I pushed it on on Twitter and God, can I remember it.
It's been a while since I said it, or he said it and I pumped
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it, got millions of views and I thought it was just a thing of
beauty. And at first when I heard that,
I thought, nice job, Nick. Except it's not always true
because I'm always looking for the exception as a problem
solver, as an engineer. And I actually tested it and
tested it and I realised, shit, I don't think it's ever not
true. So Hudson's razor is if there's
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something told to us as a globalcrisis and only thing that can
be entertained is a global solution, we all need to do it
together. And there's an atmosphere of
censorship or harassment of any dissenters if that scenario
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arises. It is always a scam.
And he's correct. I don't know a single exception
to that. So there's a simple heuristic.
If it's a global problem and a global solution is apparently
needed, and there's any pressureagainst people questioning it
openly, it is a scam. You don't need any science.
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And obviously climate, COVID andall the rest.
Perfect examples. OK, so on that note, how can I
follow you? Oh I'd say they still allow you
in even Google. If you put Ivor Commons, you
tend to get my YouTube, which isone of my main things, and my ex
at fat Emperor thefatemperor.com, the website
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I've not been using so much, butFacebook as well.
You'll get. So it's kind of Facebook and and
Twitter and YouTube are the mainplaces.
I I speak to the world through still, and I don't know about
you, but I I I mirrored all my stuff to rumble Odyssey and bit
shoot years ago because of potential risks, which we know
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about. To be honest, the view numbers
are so smaller than YouTube you unfortunately have to use the
devil's platform if if you want to reach I find.
You said Google and so many people say Google.
I, I deliberately go out of my way not to say Google.
I don't use Google. I haven't used Google for about
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two to three years now. Yeah.
And I and I when I speak to people, I don't say Google it.
I say search the Internet. True, and you know brave I
believe is a good one. My wife uses the other classic
that first came out. I forget the name.
DuckDuckGo. DuckDuckGo, to be honest with
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me, I'm so out there and I say everything.
I don't think it makes any difference if I'm tracked
anymore because I try and have apolicy of saying everything
openly. So people tracking me, tracing
me, it doesn't make any difference.
But for people in general, of course use Brave, use the good
stuff and don't support the the beast.
But I kind of said Google because even Google, which is
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dreadful for shadow banning, still allows Ivor Commons to get
links as opposed to I'm on the 20th page which happens to some
people. I mean the Great Barrington
declaration straight afterwards for a week.
Google, you could not find it. I'm just surprised they didn't
do that to me. I'm shadow banned on YouTube and
probably Twitter. Irish Twitter is probably shadow
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banning me pretty heavily. Not head office maybe, but
surprisingly you can still. Yeah, you can still search for
my name. Anyway, I don't know.
And having having said that, I love that you still say Twitter
I struggle with. X yeah, to me, let's hey, I did
a tweet yesterday guys and I I googled Twitter or Brave or
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search Twitter downloader and then I get to hit stall the
Twitter downloaders. And by the way, that's a tip for
there's another little tip for people.
People are still screen recording Twitter and Facebook
and YouTube vids. There's downloaders available
for all of them that work in a couple of seconds.
So you can just put the the tweet address HTML, get the
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tweet address or share and get the address and stick it in a
Twitter downloader instantly gets any video and then you can
share it elsewhere. Alva Cummins, thank you for
joining me in the drenches. Thanks so much Jeremy.
Love it.
Ivor Cummins, thank you for joining me in the trenches.
No. Great to be back again.
Yeah, certainly interesting times, as the Chinese would say.
The last time you know I chattedwas a few years ago, actually.
Oh yeah. I mean, it was just, it was
comical to watch. I mean, obviously it's a
tragedy, but it has funny elements.
So COVID and all that nonsense went through and then suddenly
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it was dropped like a hot potato.
And I think it was because the game was up and the system was
realising, you know, a large minority of people know that
this thing is ridiculous, you know, with Omicron and all that
stuff. So across the UK and Ireland.
And then generally within a few days it just, it just got
dumped. But then Ukraine immediately
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replaced it. Like it was just a straight swap
of actors. And then we had monkey pox and
that failed bird flu. Recently more wars in the east.
It's just non stop kind of psyop, proxy war lunacy really.
And that's the world we live in.You know, you might as well get
used to it and not be phased by it.
I often try and advise people onmental health and mental
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strength and resilience and you just can't be getting phased
about stuff beyond your control.You must focus on your circle of
control, not the circle of concern.
But that's a long story. But yeah, that's what I try and
help people now with my workshops online on mental
strength and critical thinking, etcetera.
You know, it's just a time for people to do what they can to
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spread awareness, do what they can to resist the lunacy, but
not get down, not get miserable,not get nervous or anxious
because that gives a win to the bad guys.
You know, I, I try and explain that to people, even in the
family, if you get in any way down or nervous or apprehensive,
you know, it weakens you and thebad guy smiles.
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So you just can't allow that. How could you allow giving a win
to the evil mofos up top who aredriving this?
You can't do that. Come on guys.
People have now forgotten. It's that's just a psychological
defence mechanism. I mean you've gotten the
population as you well know, you've got around 30% who are
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lost who are just Marxist leftist, just will follow
anything, trust the experts regardless.
So 30% are gone, 10 or 20% critical thinkers on a good day,
you've got a big bunch in the middle who knows something's
wrong, but they don't want to stick their head up and be
called a conspiracy theorist, sothey keep their mouths shut.
That's roughly the population. But the 30% who are gone, they
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just automatically won't get into the topic because as far as
they're concerned, we did the right thing.
And then the masses in the middle kind of know something's
rotten and they worked it out inthe end and they realised the
conspiracy theorists were correct.
And that's very embarrassing andit's very difficult for self
esteem. So you have to forget it.
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It's kind of that is in a nutshell.
Yeah, the term conspiracy theorist became a thing.
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I'd come across it
somewhat because since 2013 I was out in YouTube about
cholesterol being nonsense and fat being healthy and
carbohydrate being the problem and all that stuff, you know,
low carb type stuff. So I'd come across it whenever
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you threaten industry or oligarchies, you'll begin to
come across it. But it was, you could ignore it.
It was just an amusement when a cholesterol expert lipidologist
would really lose his his nuts in an argument and you'd beat
him and then they'd start wailing conspiracy theorists.
So it's the lender of last resort.
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I mean, the most ridiculous kindof slur, but but that's all
you've got. But yeah, you're right.
Since COVID, it came out of the gates not as a lender last
resort, as a massive psyop, wallto wall psyop morning, noon and
night. Every single nuance of
questioning the experts got the label.
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So yeah, it was nuclear, nuclearfusion, thermonuclear device,
use of conspiracy theorists. And we know, of course, I
believe the the genesis is the CIA and the intelligence and the
military in America did a brilliant idea.
They had all these new weapons and he had lots of locals very
curious, particularly, you know,maybe anti government types.
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And people were sniffing. So they got this one idiot who
had a very fanciful imagination and they used Asians as fake
whistleblowers and they just fedhim information about aliens.
That's perfect. So this guy gets a following and
he goes out to him at aliens andsuddenly you've got all the
masses not looking at the ball and it's and it's perfect.
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And that's what they did again and again.
And it's like the big lie, the perfect thing.
Make the lie so big and so absurd that most people won't
believe it could possibly be a lie.
And we got loads of big lies, right?
These are very clever tricks andvery simple, but very effective.
Yeah, unfortunately. Would you go back to 20190?
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Wow, that's a question I often comment with the family and part
of it is to kind of make light of things towards what I
mentioned about having people. There's no point being anxious.
I mentioned that we're living inthe most exciting times.
I mean back in 2017 I was working full time as a manager,
technical manager and and mastertechnologist in corporate.
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So I was a corporate whore and life was OK.
I had all my cholesterol and fatand YouTube world and going
giving lectures around the worldon on interesting stuff.
So that was good. But now we we're living in a
world that is fascinating now itcarries a load of a threat.
There's a danger to the future of our children, our
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grandchildren. It's serious stuff.
It should be really disheartening and worrying, but
I'm inclined to say truthfully on behalf of the people which I
always work for. At the end of the day, I'd
rather it was 19 because I can'twish the lunacy of what's
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happening on people, right? That's not right.
But outside of that myself personally, yeah, I like the
excitement and and the thrill ofbattle against these evil
boogers. It makes life really
interesting. I I think it's all to play for.
We can lose and end up sharing the last cigarette, but in the
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15 minute city, it could happen.But if we did what we called
before that, we can be stoical about that or the whole thing
could roll over and collapse under its own weight, which
we've seen signs off regularly. So I think it's all to play for.
And I love the militaristic feelto it that we're not just moping
along like we did for decades. We're now involved in a kind of
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a great battle of sorts. It's very invigorating.
So I kind of, I'm, I'm caught onthat one to be honest.
Just before we started recording, had scrambled eggs
and bacon. Well, that's the perfect
breakfast. And in myself and Doctor
Gerber's book Eat Rich, Live Long, Yeah, we have 5060 recipes
and a chef, but yeah, we have many egg based breakfast style
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recipes. So the perfect breakfast is so
quick, all you need is, say, a half dozen eggs.
There's no point eating one or two eggs and it's a joke, you
know, it's like having one beer.Come on stupid.
But you get around 5 or 6 eggs and you make an omelette and you
can put in chopped chives and you can put in some mushroom or
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green Peppers. I like bell Peppers, not hot
Peppers, maybe some ham or whatever.
You throw in whatever you have and do this big omelette and
cover it in salt. It's delicious and it's a
superfood. Eggs are superfood.
Organ meats are superfood. Fatty, well reared meats are
superfoods. A fish or superfood?
These are the superfoods. The list I just gave, it kind of
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runs out after that. I mean, these leafy green
nonsenses, they're not superfoods.
They might have a few minerals and they're they've got some
utility, but superfoods are nutrient dense.
They're animal based foods. So yeah, that's a perfect
breakfast. And my wife even sometimes does
liver for breakfast. I'm not crazy on liver, I know,
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like my mother did when people were wise.
But I'm not crazy on organ meatsunless they're cooked just
right. But then I did develop a organ
ultra supplement with extended life in New Zealand for people
who don't like organ meats. You know, you still should get
the goodness. So that was a very terrible
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segue on my behalf. I went from 2019 to breakfast.
But I'm I'm doing that because that's your strength.
I mean, it's like over the last I just mentioned to people, this
is around 6789 years ago. When you think about it, you
don't want to get into conspiracy theories and I often
wanted to stay away from that with the low carbon nutrition
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work I did for a decade. But I would say to people, if
you look at all the health choices, even pre COVID that
were made by the authorities, think of it like flipping a coin
and tails is getting it wrong. Can you flip a coin 12/13/14
times and get it wrong in a row?We'll do the math.
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It's, it's extremely unlikely, but they got it wrong on
cholesterol, wrong on fat, wrongon the song, wrong on salt.
You go on and on over 50 years and probabilistically, you know,
it's not the constant stupidity that makes them get the wrong
answer every single time. And what it is, is it's industry
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and it's it's interests and theyalways push towards making the
population unhealthy because thefood industry, it needs cheap
poisonous foods to make money and to get shelf life like
vegetable oils and refined carbs.
They cost nothing and they give shelf life.
So and they're addictive. So they that's why the food
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industry does it. It's not a conspiracy theory,
but there's another benefit thatas people get fat and diabetic
from their food, they actually get more hungry and they eat
more. So there's a built in growth for
their Wall Street numbers, right?
And they know this at the top. So the food industry is doing it
for all those reasons and they're funding the nutritional
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colleges. Most of the money now is
flooding from industry to fund the nutrition councils and
training of nutritionists. So they've captured the whole
space as corporates do. But then you've got big Pharma
and they fund nonsense, of course, because they make so
much money from the cholesterol nonsense.
But also there's a kind of a synergy there.
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The food industry is feeding them customers by making people
sick so they can sell their antihypertensives and all their
other junk and their cancer medicines, to be quite honest.
So you've got these two biggest industries in the world, big
pharma, big food, massive industries with lobbying up the
wazoo and practical ownership ofthe FDA and their food
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regulation authorities and what to expect?
Yeah, the coin is keep will keepflipping on the wrong side for
1/2 century. So there's no conspiracy.
There is a conspiracy, but it's so obvious.
It's it's not like subtle or hidden and that that's the whole
food and pharma. And when COVID came up, of
course, you don't have to think about it for a nanosecond.
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The authorities were pushing this ridiculousness for the
vaccine, which probably is for the global digital ID for CBDC
down the road. Fine.
So that's obvious. But they want the people to be
sicker and more depressed and locked down because it makes
them malleable and it works withthe COVID programme.
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So yeah, they're going to stop everything healthy and and just
have them as sick and deranged as possible.
Why not? And and that was it.
It was pretty. They're pretty sick puppies.
I mean, up top, you know, a lot of useful idiots down lower.
I mean, if we're honest about it, and I went through this in
many videos, most of the officials driving this were
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largely hypnotised themselves. Deep down they probably thought
this is a bit ridiculous, but they know that their job and
their salary depended on gettingon board, but they kind of
convinced themselves it was somewhat legitimate.
That's the massive army of useful idiots across the world.
But if you move up the top, it'sa relatively small number of
people who pulled all the strings.
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I mean, a great example. I'll finish on this.
The masks. The masks in summer of 2020
across Europe and America. Astonishing.
And I thought, right, we've got the whole summer till next
winter now. And our group of doctors and
professors in Ireland, COVID recovery, I told them art of
war. We own the terrain now.
From April, May, right through to probably October, the virus
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will awaken or the whole winter thing will start.
We own the territory, so let's make hay while the sun shines.
And then the clever boogers up the top and no one knows exactly
who or what panel it came from. So high up you couldn't tell
where it came from. But very high up the word came
down the pyramidal structure mask, those little boogers.
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And it happened within a week ortwo with prison sentences and
fines came in coincident with the masks.
They didn't bring in the masks in the middle of the summer when
the hospitals were empty and nothing was happening, which is
absurd as it stands because people would say hold on a
minute. So they brought them in with the
prison sentences and emergency laws so they could force it home
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from the get go. And they did.
We had an Irish granny down in Cork who refused to wear them
and she went to court several times and they put her in prison
for a few days for not wearing afilthy piece of cloth over her
face. So it's crazy isn't it?
They are sick puppies. Other than vaccines and
mainstream media, what are the chronic causes of disease?
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Again, or disease. Yeah, I have a simple thing just
for lay people, and I say OK, Devil's triad. 2 words.
Devil's triad. What's the devil's triad?
It's the root, the largest root of modern chronic disease across
the board, whether it's type 2 diabetes which causes nearly all
heart attacks or heart attacks, which are nearly all type 2
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diabetes, or any of Alzheimer's,which some would call type 3
diabetes. So you see where I'm going here
and Parkinson's, one or two havebegun to suggest type 4
diabetes. So this insulin resistance,
hyperinsulinemia, blood glucose malady is probably 80% now of
Americans over 45 are essentially diabetic at some
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level. So this is the big thing.
So what's the root or the, the, the, the, the pillar that that
is built on all that suffering. Devil's triad sugar, refined
grains, refined wheats and seed oils made in chemical plants,
the vegetable oils supposedly heart healthy that are
inflammatory and toxic, disgusting milk.
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And that's the devil's triad. And the problem with the devil's
triad is if you generally don't eat sugar, which is great, and
you don't buy bottles of seed oils or use them, that's great.
And you don't use refined grains, you know, and you don't
really use wheat at all, you're personally, that's great.
There's still a massive problem.This is what gets people.
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Ultra processed foods are around55% of the calories eaten in the
UK in the BMJ report a few yearsago.
Ultra processed roots or foods are built on the devil's triad.
So you got to be a label reader because most of the foods you're
reaching out. I'll give an example.
Seed oils. I mentioned dreadful.
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OK, Hellman's mayonnaise, big brand, look in the back,
delicious mayonnaise with eggs and stuff.
Really healthy. Yeah, 78% seed oil, 4/5 almost
seed oil. And that's just an illustration.
You got to read the labels and the first few ingredients, the
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ingredients are legally put in order of the amount of them.
So in the first several ingredients, if you see real
food and good stuff and then down the bottom, maybe there's a
little bit of something might beOK.
But when you see Hellman 78% seed oil up the top, wow, enjoy
poisoning yourself. And, and this is the problem
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Devil's Triad, which the processed food empire is built
on. And it's most of our calories
nowadays that that's the big thing.
And then if you add in the otherthings, a lack of nutrient dense
meat, fish and eggs and organ meats is a problem.
Minerals and vitamins of varioussorts depending on the person
can be a problem, but we don't. Each person's different.
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But magnesium, potassium and a few other key ones are important
or you probably have problems and lack of sun exposure.
UV, vitamin D, nitric oxide, allthe stuff you get from sun
exposure. A lack of that is a risk for
chronic disease. And then the lack of exercise
I'd acknowledge. But I think if you just do
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resistance training 20 minutes twice a week and do some weights
to failure and press UPS, you'llkind of cover the the exercise
gap. You don't need to do much. 50
minutes a week you'll you'll probably tick that box.
There's probably other things I've forgotten but if you fixed
all those things, remove the devil's triad ultra processed
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food. Eat meat, fish and eggs and
nutrient dense food primarily. Do a little bit of good
exercise. Get as much sun as you can
without burning without burning and a few more things.
If everyone did that, chronic disease would just fall off a
Cliff over the next weeks, months, years, and most of
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pharma would kind of have to shut down because hypertension
would disappear. I mean, it would be, it would be
astonishing if that were done, but the industry is making sure
that that will not be done, of course.
When you talk about these things, people tend to push back
a lot, particularly when you say, well you must cut back on
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your sugar or your or your. Carbs.
I eat pasta and I'm healthy and look at look at India and and
look at China with all the rice.Yeah, absolutely.
The whole, the whole Japan, China, India Blue Zones thing,
it does confuse a lot of people.So if you're eating rice,
unprocessed rice with 0 vegetable oils or wheats, let's
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say, and your subsistence peoplewho has to struggle to get
enough food, lean and needy likethese vast populations.
If you're a subsistence and you're using rice as a base
calorie and you're getting just enough to keep you going along
with these ancient peoples in the old days always targeted
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nutrient dense foods. They made sure they got hold of
whatever fish or whatever meat they could get.
It was highly prized. So you're targeting nutrient
dense foods, but in fairness, there ain't easy to get.
So you need basic bulk calories as well, like rice if you live
in that way out in the sun with healthy.
Non stressed kind of traditionalsocietal values, not the modern
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stress. So you don't have that problem.
You've got these meats, fish andeggs and these bulk calories
from rice and you live like thatin a subsistence level.
You won't get diabetes. You won't get any problems.
OK. But yeah, if you are a Western
person now who's overweight witha little bit of an issue from
eating the processed food in theDevil's triad, it is absolutely
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a very tricky path to try and doan ancestral Indian diet.
You still have to remove all vegetable oils and sugars.
Remember that you have to removerefined wheats because wheat is
in independently toxic. So you still got to do most of
the stuff. But you eat mostly rice now and
fish and meat, but you got to eat it really sparingly.
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Remember subsistence? So no one in the West is going
to replicate fat ancestral type scenario.
So comparing to it is absurd. But a lot of people don't get
the nuances and what I just said.
They like you said, they just say oh, but they eat rice.
Well, India by the way is diabetes ridden, right?
There's foot feet coming off in India, Italy or in India being
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amputated every 5 seconds. So once the vegetable oils got
into India and the modern sugarydrinks and the other stuff, they
just exploded in diabetes. Japan's not too bad, but again,
Japan were doing the same thing.Women would titrate the amount
of rice they eat to maintain their body weight at an
acceptable level. So if Japanese women, this goes
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back 100 years or more, this wasdocumented, I think turning the
century. If a woman had an illness and
got very skinny or was hospitalised and needed to put
on weight, they'd, they'd increased their right portion,
they knew it would build weight.And if a woman was a bit fat,
she would reduce her rice and focus on the meat, fish and egg
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side. And the French women were the
same with bread. They titrated bread.
The joke in France decades ago was go over 25.
You got to start being real careful with your bread.
So all of this stuff is understood.
But to the layperson, you know what you said, they, they have a
simplistic view of it. It's tricky.
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I go hunting, so I guess I'm already a few points ahead of
everybody else who buys the meatfrom the store.
No, that's that's perfect. And and it will tend to be
leaner meat in general, but thatdoesn't matter now if that's
where the flavour is. And a lot of vitamins just.
Just just cook it in butter. Exactly.
You can add that's the perfect thing.
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And in Ireland, funny enough, not because we're all super
planned and strategic around having healthy meats, we just
happen to have such vast grasslands that grass fed is the
economical way to have the herdsin Ireland and still largely is.
So we automatically get grass fed healthy.
And we we banned all these antibiotics that America allows
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completely legally. So Ireland happens to have grass
fed super meats. And even McDonald's in Ireland
uses 100% Irish beef in the patties.
No wheat, no nothing. They get the fat content high
enough it's a binder and the patties.
If you go in an order like 6 or three double cheeseburgers and
you throw away the bones, you'reeating nutrient dense superfood.
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People don't. People get confused about that
as well. They think everything in
McDonald's is junk. Depends on the country.
I'm not sure about the patties in other countries but in
Ireland you've got superfood McDonald's.
If you don't take the drink or the vegetable oil soaked thighs
and you throw away the bones, you got superfood, the sauce,
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the sauce. But again, the dose defines the
poison. So I looked up years ago what
was in McDonald's sauce and to be honest, it's sugary.
But the little dab that they puton the burger, I wouldn't get
too anal about it. Like you're talking less than
the teaspoon of sugar. And to be fair, yeah, it's very
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small, but wipe it off if you want to be purist.
But the main thing is the bones,the fries, the drinks and
everything else but the parties.Boom.
Is that why everybody has becomefat?
Yeah, essentially. I mean, look, it's a complex
thing because they're second order effects.
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So you know, when people begin to get fat, they bestow fatness
propensity upon their children. So women who are insulin
resistant kind of predispose their babies to come out of the
at birth as insulin, high insulin, insulin resistance.
So you're, you're make, you're making a problem as you begin to
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get fat that's getting 2nd orderroll on effects.
And that's why the curve went upso bad since the 70s and 80s.
It's just, it's just like an Inflexion point straight up and
then it levels off as it reachesabsurdity.
That's where we are now. But this problem, even if you
fix the food supply because of the 2nd order effects on all the
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fat mothers and all this, there's nothing sexist about
that by the way. It's just a biochemical fact.
Very overweight insulin resistant mothers create part of
another added problem. So if you kind of begin to fix
things, the obesity won't come down really quickly because
you've built a hysteresis into the problem.
It's become so big and it's got inertia.
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But but that aside, what caused it broadly, it was not lack of
exercise. People often try to say we
stopped exercising. Well in the 70s and 80s, they
changed the food guidelines and they basically worked with
industry and said eat vegetable oils and eat carbs.
And they meant give them some credit.
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They meant eat low. Fat everything's everything was
low fat. Oh, exactly.
But but because it was low fat, you've got to eat something
else. And the answer was eat vegetable
oils because they're not saturated fat and eat
carbohydrates. So the low fat obsession just
led to eat this crap. And to give them credit, a lot
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of them did intend you to eat lots of vegetables carbs.
But what happened was industry came in with the refined wheat
and it was inevitable the carbs people were going to start
eating. We're going to be refined carbs
because that's how our industry was going.
So the reality they had the devil's triad since the 70s and
80's, the devil's triad exploded, which I mentioned is
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the root of modern chronic disease.
The devil's triad was just blessed by academia and the
experts as what you should eat. So they blessed the Devil's
triad. So go figure.
And and then the obesity and diabetes just just took off.
And during that period in engineering and I do a critical
thinking master class online nowand you know, there's
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comparative analysis, Kepner Trego and you look at what
happened and the different States and you do compares.
Well, what did come up with the problem?
What did not come up? And the hilarious thing is the
red meat that they talk nonsenseabout.
That's all geopolitical. There's nothing to do with
health but all this anti meat thing.
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The red meat per capita came down across those 40 years while
the problems went up and what went into up was vegetable oils
and carbs. Clearly the red meat went down
and what it went up was chicken,but real, real nutrient dense
red meat went down. So at one glance you can tell
well and the exercise, the exercise did not change enough
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to have any real impact on this.Lack of exercise is certainly
now a problem in the last 20 years, but the curve was heading
a way up without the exercise changing.
In fact, there were periods of obsession with gyms going on in
the 80s and 90s. There was a boom and all that
fond of crap. And so, yeah, it's just so
simple. I mean, that's just what
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happened. That's it.
I grind my beans and I drink coffee with cream.
I've tried it with butter. I've tried.
It with butter, it's just too rich.
Yeah. On the top, little bubbles of
oily buttery. The flavour of butter is
delicious melted onto some things, but in coffee it doesn't
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work. Yeah, I agree.
No, that doesn't work. And and then have bacon and eggs
or have some sort of high fat breakfast and you, you sorted
for the day. Absolutely.
And then you know, and then lastnight, for example, I made a
rump steak. I fried it in a bit of olive oil
and and butter. I'm not.
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I want to ask you about olive oil.
And, and, and I did a type of very simple salady thing on the
side with carrot and beet, not beetroot, cabbage, ginger, one
and one or two other things. It was delicious and very low
carbs. Yeah.
And you feel great. Oh, and I had a glass of red
wine with my wife and I feel amazing.
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Yeah, I usually have bit too much of the wine.
That's that's my only naughty risk.
That's why I said, that's why I said a glass, because I'm, I'm
very liberal with what a glass means.
Well, you know, I won't ever like and agree with you.
Yeah, a glass. But do you know the comedy
glasses that they dish and some of the mean?
That's probably about the glass I have.
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But yeah, I mean it's, I mean it's.
A glass that It's a glass that holds 750 miles.
Yeah, I'm familiar. Do do as I say, not as I do.
And I'm often honest in my weight loss master class and
health. I did one last night actually 2
1/2 hours roughly. I have the green screen up here
by the way, but I couldn't do a background on Riverside.
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But but behind the screen is a 75 inch touchscreen, a big
Samsung. So I do a class with a black
kind of curtain and this huge screen and you can do
interactive examples. It's actually working pretty
well. But then yeah, I mean, that's
that's I have one meal a day. Generally it works for me.
It keeps my life simple all day long from when I get up.
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I have the coffee with double cream so I'm not totally fasted,
but I'm not anal about it. And all day long I can work with
no interruptions for lunches, breakfast, yada, yada, yada.
And I know at the end of the dayat 5:00 or 6:00 PM, I'm going to
have my evening meal and I look forward to it.
And hunger is a good sauce, right?
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So I'm not too hungry during theday.
I'm fine. It's a habit now, but but I know
what's coming. And I really, you know, I really
enjoy it when it comes women, I think, and I explained this last
night as I always do, broadly females, 2 meals a day seems to
work a bit better and males, it seems one meal a day is
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achievable by anyone. Once you get fat adapted and
you're off the carbs for a week or two and you level out and you
can burn your own fat with impunity, then you can merge to
one meal a day and change your life.
It's the way to go, it's the wayto go.
You know another funny thing, German just occurs to me a
performance drug. So for me, fasting is a
performance drug. Now that sounds silly, right?
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That sounds like a acupuncture or homoeopathy or whatever you
want to say. No offence to people who are
into that, but you know, things that would not be automatically
obviously good. I when I was giving lectures
back 2015 sixteen, I was new to big audiences outside of
corporate. So I'd done big talks in
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corporate with 5080 people, but now it's beginning to be invited
to conferences with 56800 people.
And it was new to me. So one of the edges I used and
it worked great. I would not eat anything for at
least 24 hours or maybe 28 or 9 before I went on stage.
And I go on stage completely fasted my brain running probably
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60% on beta hydroxybutyrate fromthe ketogenic state I was in and
40% glucose, whereas everyone runs on 100% glucose.
I think that's part of it and brain derived neuropathic factor
goes up with BHB from keto. So lots of papers in this
showing the brain works differently and it works better
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in that state. So it was a performance drug and
to be quite honest, I'd be scared to go on stage in those
days if you forced me to eat a meal two or three hours before,
I'd actually be concerned. Now, after a while, I could get
open front 50,000 now and I couldn't care less.
But back then in the early days,it was an edge and it is an
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edge. And I think evolutionarily this
is just a guess. I have not seen this written,
but if you have no food for 24 hours in ancient times, that
usually wasn't because you wanted to fit in a nice dress,
right? That was because you didn't have
food. And that's as dangerous as it
gets in the wild. So I think in the first few
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hours after food, you feel hunger because the system wants
to make sure you keep nourishingyourself.
That's OK. But after around 24 hours and I
hear a two days, you get a kind of euphoria of clarity.
Well, that makes sense because after a day or two with no food,
you're now at high risk as far as the system's concerned.
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So you can't be going around muddled from lack of food.
You need to be the opposite. You need to be hyper hunter,
right? So you got to work.
You got to fix something here oryou're dead.
So I think that's part of why when the brain switches over
with lack of food to beta hydroxybutyrate, it operates at
a sharper, more clarifying level.
Your your, your responses. Everything gets clearer.
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It's hard to describe because most people don't go 24 hours
without food. You should try it, it's amazing.
But I've you're just talking nonsense, all that's required is
just a balanced diet. And eat a little and often,
regularly, 6 or 7 times a day. That's what industry says.
Don't skip your breakfast. Have a snack if you feel hungry.
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A healthy carbohydrate snack. Yeah, go figure.
It's like the coin again, right?It flipped up.
It flipped on the wrong side again.
They tell you to eat regularly. That's not good.
Because when you eat and digest,it takes quite a bit of energy.
And hormones all rise and changeand all of that disturbance is
not ideal, but you need to do itbecause you need to eat.
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But if you eat the right foods, it minimises it.
And if you only eat once a day, you get 24 hours of the day each
day. You are free from all those
hormonal disturbances and all that machinery having to work.
I mean, it's just super ideal todo 1 meal a day for Homo
sapiens. And I think that's
evolutionarily that's what kind of happened.
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Hunters got up and they weren't going to sit down to a big feast
of eggs and whatever. Generally they went out hunting
all day and I think generally then they feasted when they got
back with the kill. I think that's broadly our
heritage and you're you're maintaining that heritage now.
Personally, I like that with thehunting.
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I mean, can you hunt in Ireland?Oh yes, I was from the age of 13
or 14. I was very lucky as a city boy.
My pal locally in Dublin City isFather of the Farm around 50
miles away in the middle of nowhere and we got to go down
Wednesday nights and weekends for years doing turf hay baling
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in the summer, fencing cattle moving cattle crushing, painful
and all of that stuff. And he would also, he was very
libertarian and he'd say be careful with those guns lads.
This is what Mr Quinn would say.But he would allow us to take
the double barrel, 12 bar and the single barrel with us when
we were 14, maybe 13, and go down the fields and down to the
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bog and the furs with our pockets full of cartridges.
And he just told us to be careful.
But he let us that freedom, which was fantastic.
Nowadays it's the opposite, as you know, and that's the way it
should be. Occasionally 11 accidents.
Look, shit happens, but kids need to be out there doing and
learning. He would also let us take the
tractor, the Massey 35X, the classic old tractor, and he
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would let us take that on the little public road and go a
couple of miles to go fishing. So we go fishing in the tractor.
We had transport at the age of 14.
It was fantastic, but hunting mainly pigeons, you know,
pheasant, occasionally rabbits, but the mix of A totals, it
wasn't good for rabbits in my day and the occasional fox
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because they were kind of predators that were caused quite
a bit of trouble. And just vermin also.
But pigeons, you go out and stubbles with plastic decoy
pigeons, you're sure you're wellaware.
And when you get it going, you can come back with a dozen
pigeons. And you know, you pluck the
breast, it's not where roasting them.
But if you pluck the breast and just take the breast meat off,
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garlic and butter in the pan, lots of butter.
Delicious. I've never shot a bird.
Oh, an avian. Hopefully that's nasty.
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When I talk about hunting, I talk about generally antelope
back. Yeah, that's the classic South
African 2015. I was into Cape Town because my
funder at the time covered the trip because I was going to the
first big low carb conference, Knox's.
And it was great because everyone there I found out knew
me from my Youtubes. So I was a bit embarrassed going
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in. But Knox, when he saw me, ran
over and gave me a bear hug and I never even spoken to him
because he knew about my cholesterol conundrum video that
went viral and he'd referenced it on radio shows, which is
great. But I was there and we got the
meats and they brought us out aswell.
We went out on a not a safari. We went to a wine producing
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place on a bus ride towards Johannesburg and we went for
probably 50 minutes. But it was beautiful and we had
all these meats like you know, wild meats and it was just
fantastic experience. It was superb, superb.
Tim he's the reason why I changed my lifestyle.
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He's a great, great man and he was on my show a few weeks ago.
Great. Yeah, I'm sorry.
Go on. What I was going to say that I,
they invited me to their big nutrition conferences going on
around now, but you know, I've just, I have a lot of stuff on.
I would have loved to go on, butit's 1314 hours flight and stuff
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going on with family at home. Like it didn't suit.
But I would have loved to go back and meet them all.
But I hope it goes well for them.
Yeah, that flight, that's the killer.
It's, I, I travelled a lot on business to Singapore and
sometimes China and Thailand with my corporate, you know,
when we had huge factory bills going on.
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And yeah, Singapore, it's kind of tough From London, you go to
London, it's an hour and then you got your 12 1/2 hour.
It's long, but I kind of got used to it.
And nowadays I think the thing for flights is I need to
download using, I don't pay YouTube.
I use the YouTube downloaders. And I download a lot of
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interesting material. Well, I mean, I don't make them,
so I'm not doing anything illegal.
They can follow it up. But why 12D?
Or there's all these different named ones.
But you know what? They're very clever.
I know you're kind of into IT. What they do is now the YouTube
downloaders used to just download it in 1080, just put it
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in. And sometimes they pop up ads,
sometimes not. But now what?
They do the good ones. You can download it in 360 P
poor definition which is fine for the phone, for the airline,
for on a plane. But if you want the high
definition you can download the video and you can separately
download the audio but not the two together.
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But the great thing is you can always download both and if you
video edit like you do you just put them back together but the
layperson can't get them easily.But luckily I can, so it was
just a side thought. But yeah, play it.
It's a long journey now. It's not time zone, it's only an
hour or two time zone different.So the least there isn't that
like West Coast with the 8 hoursor Singapore with the 8 hours
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and the 12 hours flights is tougher than South Africa I.
Was going to say what do you useto shoot?
Pigeons, all the classic shotgun, a couple of shotguns
and I have one since I was 17. I My first shotgun I bought was
A5 shot pump action Remington. I was probably watching too much
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American TV and I quickly I realised it was not a proper
hunting gun and yeah, it didn't even fit me well.
I could tell I was hitting very little.
So I had made a stock for my friend's father, that great guy
I mentioned, he had a broken stock gun and I made when I
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carved it from a block of walnutthat I bought in Chatham's in
Dublin, a timber importer. And I said I wonder could I make
one? And I did and it worked well.
I carved it with spoke shaves, shaped all handling and machined
out the action with chisels and it worked great.
So I said to myself then I wonder does any of the gun
dealers in Dublin have one with a broken stock?
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And I asked them and 1 gun dealer had a nice little mariks
of Spanish side by side, you know, not an amazing gun but a
nice little Spanish gun. And I convinced him to sell it
to me. And he was very cynical.
He said, oh, you can't make a handle for a stock for this and
all those 3 tonnes pressure whenyou fire a shotgun and a lot of
pressure. Of course he was mixing up the
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pressure in the barrel and the actual, you know, impulse to
your shoulder. But anyway, so when I went back
a couple of weeks later with thenew stock, French polished, he
wasn't laughing then. So I've had that since I was 17.
I have another shotgun. I have a high powered hunting
air rifle and air arms. Lovely, lovely 22 proper 32
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jewel. So like you can take out say a
pigeon at 50-60 yards no problem.
And yeah, that's, that's what I have.
I sold my rifle many years ago because I wasn't using it much
in Ireland. Maybe it's a good thing to have
nowadays, the way things are. What rifle didn't?
So which rifle did you sell? Oh, I sold it in my mid 20s.
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It was a Bruno Czechoslovakian Brno 22 with A5.
It was a lovely little go on andI sold it because I just wasn't
using it. But in A5 shot magazine.
But it was just a 22 standard long rifle.
So probably if I was going to get a rifle now and there are
some people doing deer in Ireland and I do have
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connections. During COVID one guy wrote to me
and he's big into it and he offered to bring me out and I
never followed up. I was too busy so but I'd look
into that and then get somethingkind of proper like a 223 or
something maybe. You mentioned Czechoslovakian.
I've got a Czechoslovakian rifle.
I've got a CZ 600. It's a 3/8.
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Three, eight. Yeah, that's more like it. 3
three O 8 not 380. Sorry, I'm thinking yeah, 38
Special calibre, but no, no, no,of course three O 8 is common
hunting. Yeah.
What are you going to hand with the 3/8?
Well, that's what you said There's I thought it was 38
calibre, but obviously not the New York cops Snoop Nose.
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But I I didn't know that there wasn't a 38 calibre rifle.
Hunting rifle sure, there's probably all kinds of stuff
because if you watch these guys in America, my son was watching
them like demolition ranch and there's these guys in Texas with
big YouTube channels and they'refiring all kinds of arms.
So you do get to see every calibre you could dream of,
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including, well, the, well, of course, the classic 50 Cal, the
the BMG or the what's the. I've shot that, I've shot that.
That's incredible. That's a weapon, my God, but
they've all other ones as well. He had a handgun that was I
think there's maybe 50 Cal magnum in a snub nose made a big
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joke firing it and he's holding it like wincing, but like with
the little mass of a snub nose type revolver.
But the chambers around that long and the and the barrels
that long huge magnum bullet andhe's holding it next with hands
come right back. But the Americans are are crazy,
but in a good way. But fat Americans are very fat
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now. It's astonishing.
So you've seen the like. It's just, it's just hilarious.
Stuff. Yeah, I mean, it's like that
movie, you know, Wally or whatever where they're going
around in in floating cars. But if you look at what was the
big rock concert again, God, themassive mega in in America, we
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sometimes show pictures of it, The Rolling Stones and everyone
are there. Oh, it just rain fart here.
The huge open hair concerts. Anyway, there were a few of them
and beach stock. Woodstock, Woodstock.
All I can think was Rolling Stones, Rolling Stones for some
reason. So Woodstock and all the
pictures you see them all guys in their mid 20s, gals in their
mid 20s. They're all like they look
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nowadays. People would say to them, Are
you sure you're OK? Because relatively they worry
about people who are that slim. Everyone is that slim.
And one in 50 or one in 20 in the school was a fatty.
They were just addicted to carbsback in the day before everyone
else was. And you just look at it and they
weren't. They were two car families in
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the 50s in America. Everyone was driving everywhere
from the 50s. So the 50s through to the 70s
and 80s, driving was the thing. Kids were driving any everyone
was driving. And so there wasn't any more
exercise per SE. But then the Devil's triad came
in high volume food and gas stations.
Everywhere you turned was the Devil's triad and then it just
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took off. So now the Americans, now it's
comical. I mean, particularly I, I, I
transferred flights there in Minnesota once.
It's just, you're just looking around the airport.
I mean, there's a lot of these electric carts to move people.
They need to be helped to move around the airport like it's.
It's shocking. Is there?
Is there like a default? Ah well, I saw the norm in
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Sweden back around 2007. Even in Stockholm my wife's
brother treated us to a weekend away because we had a load of
kids that were under a lot of pressure.
Fair enough, and it was nice, nice thing to do.
We went to Stockholm and our jaws dropped.
Even compared to Ireland in 2007we were looking at Woodstock in
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Stockholm. So there you go.
So you don't have to go back toofar.
Now Sweden, that's another problem.
Sweden now is destroyed with themass migration.
So you go to Sweden now and it'sdifferent matter, especially
Malmo. So they got they got marked for
destruction clearly like Germanyand and all the other countries.
But yeah, even even back. And I was in Romania at a
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corporate management training and then I brought my wife over
after the three days and tense kind of, you know, these
corporate gigs, you're all looking at the latest concepts
and doing worked examples and you're stuck with the morning
till night for three days. Well, they did one of those in
Romania and they'd European corporate guys from our
corporate there. But myself and a wife walked
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around Romania, Bucharest and that was probably around 2000.
That could have been 2014 or 15.And I tell you Woodstock
everywhere. So you don't have to go back too
far. It all depends on when the
pipeline of American style devil's triad ultra processed
food took over your population. Always.
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That's when it goes up. So for guys, what is a generally
good body fat percentage? Oh well, the Super fits are down
at 7 or 8%, but I guess 12 or 13is not too bad.
You know one for Doctor Ted Naman Palomine on the West
Coast. He loves practical because he's
an engineer and then became a doctor.
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And one of the things he said tome, and he's right, BMI is
worthless, means nothing. You have big rugby player who's
a slab of pure muscle, right, zero diabetes and the BMI could
be like 32. So it's meaningless.
It's a meaningless figure. BMI, it means nothing, almost
nothing. Waist to height ratio, This is
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hard to achieve. But if you look at those guys in
Bucharest or Woodstock, broadly speaking, a lot of people will
be getting close to a 2 to 1 waist to height ratio.
And as he says, when you measurethe waist, it's not like you
just stand there relaxed and youput a tape around your belly
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button gently. That's your actual waist.
And if your waist to high is 2 or even close to two like 1.9,
that's the ultimate measure. How many people Now take out the
tape measure, walk into any western city and get 100 people
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lined up. Lift up their shirts, try not to
get into trouble and measure their height and measure them
relaxed around the belly button.If you get 1 is a Hong Kong.
Yeah, when I was when I was in Hong Kong last year, I saw
almost no fat people. Fair enough, but Hong Kong is
the highest meat per capita consumption in the world and the
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longest. Basically longevity and what you
said highest meat consumption per capita which is just another
interesting fact. So The Who are liars with their
anti meat in. Actual fact, somebody there told
me that it's culturally unacceptable for women to be
fat, so they look down on fat woman.
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Misogynism, you know, these days, Yeah.
Well, and yeah, a lot of cultures.
Now, there's other cultures, in fairness, like, you know, in
Africa, a very, a very large woman may help survive through
very bad periods. And then they would store, you
know, the booty thing actually has some genetic background
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where if you store a lot of fat around the waist, it doesn't
interrupt your walking and movement.
You know, it's stored around your midpoint and it's a massive
store to save you against famineand childbirth was important.
So there are all these cultures where women who are carrying
extra ballast. It was seen as survival and
health. But yeah, in Hong Kong, it
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sounds like not so much. But, you know, we've been
programmed now. You've seen all the stuff about.
You've seen the ads from Ralph Lauren or whatever, 1980s or
90s. You have the Super slim sculpted
man in his underpants and a woman in a bra and paying the
famous lady was a Twiggy or one of them did the famous Ralph
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Lauren or maybe was Armani. 1990s, super slim, beautiful,
tanned, you know, perfect examples of male and female like
native Indian, male and female like Hong Kong.
Maybe that is the blueprint for Homo sapiens, male, female.
And now what do we got? They got two big fat blobs, you
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know, kind of trans covered in tattoos, big man boobs.
That's Armani now. So actually that is beautiful.
It's laughable, risible, It's comical and I'm not, I would
never be anti or or fat shaming.Occasionally when I'm drunk, I
maybe do the wrong tweet, but generally I won't fat shame
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because I lecture in mental strength, resilience.
I got huge empathy and I've worked in weight loss with a lot
of people for a long time. So I wouldn't fat shame.
But outside of individual named people, it's absurd.
And and they're trying to teach us that not only is it not
absurd and it's not, and there isn't an obvious answer as to
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why, right. They also want to teach us.
No, it's, it's normal. It's it's.
Good. Some something I do quite often
when I'm in the shop and I'm in the checkout line, I always have
a look to see what other people have bought.
And do you do the same, particularly with food?
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It's fascinating and you will see the same trend every time
either fat people buy ridiculously bad.
Food. They do and it's tiered.
So the worst case is the fat person who doesn't give a flying
F and they have all the like standard original sugar, Coca
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Cola, maybe all the bread and all the junk food.
They just don't care. That's a chunk.
Then there's a chunk, God bless them who are fat people who who
would clearly like to be not fatbecause they've got loads of low
fat products and plenty type products in their trolley.
And God bless them, they don't realise that they're making it
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worse for themselves, but they are trying.
You see, they're trying, you know, and, and then you've got
the slim lean people and you just notice generally they've,
they've got smaller trolleys andthey tend to be meat, fish and
eggs and real food and then somevegetables and, you know, coffee
and cream. So that's my trolley when I go,
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when I go into the supermarket, it's hilarious.
We do buy more than that. But whenever I go and I don't
know what's needed for the pantry at home, I come out with
very heavy bags that are very expensive per bag.
You know, it's a big bill, but it's OK because I have nutrient
density and value density. I buy a load of meat, a couple
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of boxes of 12 of eggs. I get cheese and ham and meat to
cook in the oven. And I guess maybe 3 or 4 double
creams because we go through three or four every few days.
Double cream 250 mils. That's the way it is and I have
this bag. 250 mils. Sorry that's that's not very
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much. I buy a litre.
True. In Ireland sometimes with double
cream, they don't always have it.
They sometimes have half litres,but mostly it's two 50s.
It's, you know, the standard cream comes in the litre
regularly enough, but the doublecream, yeah, small packets, but
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that's where. I buy.
Yeah. Double cream.
Sorry, sorry, sorry. Yes, that's a good point.
Yeah, it's just the way they do it.
It's perceived as smaller packaging because it's more
concentrated, yada, yada, yada. I don't know, but but I always
just grab around four of them and there might be two or three
at home already, but that's fine.
If the seven, they get used wellwithin the date and we have the
top of the fridge double cream and I always because I'm
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relaying all, I reordered them in their dates to put the oldest
date at the back just goes, you know, makes sense.
Whereas the kids mix them up, but we just keep using them, you
know, and they go down, down, down.
Then you got to put four more in.
So the family really is a lot ofcream.
It's Irish double cream from grass fed cattle.
I mean the stuff is gold. It's gold.
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Well. Isn't what's also Golden Island
is potatoes? Yeah, potato.
Well, I go through my weight loss master class, the potato
diet and the fad diets, and the potato diet works.
It's just an interesting aside. It works because of ultra low
palatability. So the true potato diet, you
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can't put butter all over them and make them tasty.
You just eat potatoes. You try munching true potatoes,
cooked potatoes. So the reason people can
actually succeed on a potato diet is they've limited
themselves to the least palatable food on the planet,
practically. And as a result, they just don't
feel like eating it. And they reduce their calories
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and they lose weight. But it's a scam.
It's how sustainable is that? It's a joke.
But potatoes, Another interesting thing about
potatoes, people say, well, the Irish ate potatoes and they were
all skinny. Yeah, because they were
subsistence. They were getting rabbits and
fish and meat at a high premium.They knew.
And they had dairy, mega dairy in Ireland going back thousands
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of years. So yeah, they were filling in
necessary calories with kind of basic potato glucose.
But, you know, they were subsistence.
So they never got fat and they never got diabetic.
But if you keep eating loads of potatoes and you introduce the
devil's triad in a modern setting, boom, you're diabetic
in a few years. That's.
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It the one that gets me every time is when fat, when fat
people switch sugar for xylitol or diabetic something that's
they call it sugar free or what's it diabetic friendly
sugar or whatever. Yeah, it's the same thing.
It's it's well, it's the sugar alcohols.
(58:21):
You could make an argument that if you want sweeteners and it's
a tricky, I always say in the weight loss, it's tricky because
you're better off getting away from the sweet taste and
triggering yourself. And then if you eat real food,
you'll begin to savour it. And then if you went back to
some sugar, it tastes disgusting.
So you want to get in that mode.But if you really must use a
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sweetener for a treat or something or added to ice cream,
or you want of ice cream, but you want to make healthy ice
cream yourself and something like a Ritz or tall, it's a
sugar alcohol that doesn't get metabolised.
So it just kind of goes through.So if you eat a lot of it, you
might start farting as well because bugs in your stomach
might eat some of it. But you know what?
(59:05):
It's got a place maybe. But I'd say I'd advise just just
move away from sweetness and getsavoury and make it your new
life and just walk away from that problem.
Or you could get dragged back inagain, you know?
Give me a nugget of wisdom. Oh God, we went through the
Nuggets on health. Hudson's razor.
(59:30):
You know Nick Hudson, right? We drink too much wine.
Yeah, enjoy your wine sensibly. Stay safe.
But no Hudson's razor. I just love that.
And I pushed it on on Twitter and God, can I remember it.
It's been a while since I said it, or he said it and I pumped
(59:51):
it, got millions of views and I thought it was just a thing of
beauty. And at first when I heard that,
I thought, nice job, Nick. Except it's not always true
because I'm always looking for the exception as a problem
solver, as an engineer. And I actually tested it and
tested it and I realised, shit, I don't think it's ever not
true. So Hudson's razor is if there's
(01:00:12):
something told to us as a globalcrisis and only thing that can
be entertained is a global solution, we all need to do it
together. And there's an atmosphere of
censorship or harassment of any dissenters if that scenario
(01:00:32):
arises. It is always a scam.
And he's correct. I don't know a single exception
to that. So there's a simple heuristic.
If it's a global problem and a global solution is apparently
needed, and there's any pressureagainst people questioning it
openly, it is a scam. You don't need any science.
(01:00:54):
And obviously climate, COVID andall the rest.
Perfect examples. OK, so on that note, how can I
follow you? Oh I'd say they still allow you
in even Google. If you put Ivor Commons, you
tend to get my YouTube, which isone of my main things, and my ex
at fat Emperor thefatemperor.com, the website
(01:01:17):
I've not been using so much, butFacebook as well.
You'll get. So it's kind of Facebook and and
Twitter and YouTube are the mainplaces.
I I speak to the world through still, and I don't know about
you, but I I I mirrored all my stuff to rumble Odyssey and bit
shoot years ago because of potential risks, which we know
(01:01:37):
about. To be honest, the view numbers
are so smaller than YouTube you unfortunately have to use the
devil's platform if if you want to reach I find.
You said Google and so many people say Google.
I, I deliberately go out of my way not to say Google.
I don't use Google. I haven't used Google for about
(01:01:57):
two to three years now. Yeah.
And I and I when I speak to people, I don't say Google it.
I say search the Internet. True, and you know brave I
believe is a good one. My wife uses the other classic
that first came out. I forget the name.
DuckDuckGo. DuckDuckGo, to be honest with
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me, I'm so out there and I say everything.
I don't think it makes any difference if I'm tracked
anymore because I try and have apolicy of saying everything
openly. So people tracking me, tracing
me, it doesn't make any difference.
But for people in general, of course use Brave, use the good
stuff and don't support the the beast.
But I kind of said Google because even Google, which is
(01:02:40):
dreadful for shadow banning, still allows Ivor Commons to get
links as opposed to I'm on the 20th page which happens to some
people. I mean the Great Barrington
declaration straight afterwards for a week.
Google, you could not find it. I'm just surprised they didn't
do that to me. I'm shadow banned on YouTube and
probably Twitter. Irish Twitter is probably shadow
(01:03:03):
banning me pretty heavily. Not head office maybe, but
surprisingly you can still. Yeah, you can still search for
my name. Anyway, I don't know.
And having having said that, I love that you still say Twitter
I struggle with. X yeah, to me, let's hey, I did
a tweet yesterday guys and I I googled Twitter or Brave or
(01:03:25):
search Twitter downloader and then I get to hit stall the
Twitter downloaders. And by the way, that's a tip for
there's another little tip for people.
People are still screen recording Twitter and Facebook
and YouTube vids. There's downloaders available
for all of them that work in a couple of seconds.
So you can just put the the tweet address HTML, get the
(01:03:50):
tweet address or share and get the address and stick it in a
Twitter downloader instantly gets any video and then you can
share it elsewhere. Alva Cummins, thank you for
joining me in the drenches. Thanks so much Jeremy.
Love it.
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