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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Uh, my name is Donald had a Brooke. Uh, I'm
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gonna do it through because.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
Of a crime that I did.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Almost thir eight years ago. Uh sure, great coming and laugh.
I think it's week Uh and uh that's pretty my chun.
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Okay, okay, yeah, we can talk about the crime as
as we go on. So can you can you talk about,
uh what exactly you're convicted of under the circumstances using
the word that we just spoke about, like like how
it happened, why it happened, when it happened, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Well, they got me.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
A runner the hate crime, but here it feel like
it's a race crime. That really makes me sad because
you know, as I'm sure you know, I'm a hat breathing,
I'm a mother.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And you know that may really think, I mean the.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Whole things think, but that me, you know, and uh
that was published from the truth. That is not why
it's there took place. Uh. It's a play couple big
more slow, not a cause being anything else.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
So so so obviously they said this was a hate
crime due to racial slurs being used and the fact
that he was African American and he was I don't
know if you can say this word, but tortured, tortured
and unlived? Is there any truth to to this being
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a hate crime? Whether it was you Brewington or your
wife at the time, well.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Uh what it what it angle? Co uh? He educated
the dru using the hate crime thing, you know?
Speaker 4 (02:54):
And uh I had like I told you I had
a lawyer, hey crop thing.
Speaker 5 (03:02):
You know?
Speaker 4 (03:02):
And uh I had like I told you I had
a lawyer.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
And he was tickled to that. He you know, he
came up and he said, he says for me, Brook,
my Brook. Uh, you know the uh spake trying to
church with this hay craft. I get it out of you.
I should have been easy to do. Uh. I looked at.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
And I said.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
That person. I said, I got one question to ask you.
He said, what said? I said, did that boy gets
crawled back out of the ground?
Speaker 6 (03:49):
Right? And it's boy looked at me like I was, like,
I said, do what I said? Does he get to
crawl back out at the ground?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
He said, But no, that's.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
What then't what does it matter?
Speaker 1 (04:04):
At that time I didn't realize that. You know, to me, I've.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Always accepted my fate, you know, Uh, my partner, I've
always accepted that. And that's one of the.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
One of the most hardest things because you know, people goes.
He beat you know, the police just their parasal for
me because I was not white and he beat you know,
not my TV lost his job. Well, I mean all
my life, I thought again, because I've.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
Been called him much.
Speaker 1 (04:51):
Uh you know, even in school. Uh I almost called
the name that teacher m I made the d minors.
She said, well, honey, after actually got that tactics blood
in you, we don't expect much from you. Cause I
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went and ask my grandmother was that meant?
Speaker 2 (05:14):
And uh, my little, poor poor grandmother got.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Hot and I just, uh, I wish people knew every
day about someone in here, especially me. You know, when
a person gets in here, they get dipnotized at that
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five minutes of evil.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
And yes, I'm not saying they should be funnished, yet
that's how I meant. She be worse about then, But
what about the ten year old little bird that used
to pick.
Speaker 6 (05:54):
Fires and count to the nursing hall, And what about
that uh uh in your river fern the neighbor down
the road he cut takes far and I mean she
would she didn't. I tick on her to get when
she seen me coming up on the sidewalk.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
You never hear that, y'all.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Would hear the negative?
Speaker 1 (06:19):
You know, y'allways hear the downside. And people are a
lot more than that. Just lock into that bidle minute
pickle us so much more.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Yeah, I'm sorry, I got on.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
H oh, No, you're fine, You're fine.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I just got a lot, you know, I just really
wish I pouted people in here.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I wish we had something.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
And how can I say that some of that was
created because granted they got uh, you know, they can
hire attorneys to they can and have these attorneys. I
would like to see. I've got to see, uh, the
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state anything start taking a step towards the unity, you know,
even the higher attorneys.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
And I can understand why they make.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Cannot right the victims and black them because obviously, but
if you can afford the attorney, you know, if you
can afford to hire these attorneys.
Speaker 6 (07:42):
Guy, one would the highest mediators want to have an organization?
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Word if I want to make amend.
Speaker 1 (07:50):
I write these people. I wright these people every letter,
and they formed your family. You know, lettle scamper in
proper work stead.
Speaker 8 (08:03):
You know.
Speaker 1 (08:05):
It would work on. Yeah, it would work on it
work on killing people. That's what we're mentioning is we're
missing all. We're mincing and kuelling people instead of innsing
and hulling people. And that's wrong. I mean somewhere we
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need to focus.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
So far, so Donnie, uh so, I'm gonna read what
the prosecution claims was the motive for this un alive
and okay mm hm so so it said that the
reason that Carrick was unalived was because he was at
a flea market with his friends, right, and he accidentally
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broke a vase. And it says that it says that you,
with your wife Tammy and a friend, Robert Bruinton Junior,
you had a kidnapped him and then did things to
him for hours, which included racial slurs and abuse, and
there was an ex actually carved into his chest as
so as are you saying none of that is true? Well,
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obviously he was unlived, but what about any of that?
Was any of that true?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
None of them?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
That the leave market never took place, that's uh momus
uh race things.
Speaker 8 (09:26):
Now.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
I'm not gonna say it's a stay closer every boy. Thanks,
just as you think. But my laughter's life just as
much as a state lie. It ain't not true that
about that. It's who can tell the fat law and
make it believable? I said, And yeah, that is something
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that was added, you know, stuck in that to.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
As take the jewy.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
And I've already I took.
Speaker 9 (10:00):
What does it matter?
Speaker 1 (10:02):
You know I would already in that night that I
actually respons does it matter?
Speaker 8 (10:12):
You know?
Speaker 1 (10:13):
What does it matter? I wish I could treat place.
Speaker 3 (10:19):
It's been said, I don't know who said this, but
it's been said that you were a part of a
I can't say the word, but it was you were
a part of a racist organization that wears point, that
wears point the hoods. Is there any truth to you
being a part of that that group.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
No, they would, honestly, because I'm if I got it
probably anywhere near that group, I'd probably be on a
bad dad of them, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
No, there's no truth today.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
There is definitely no truth today. Again, that's that's the
us to annoy the jury that you know, just anything
the jury and they got him so bad. I'm gonna
tell you, I'm putting a listen to these people talk
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about me and I hate to say this. I'll sit there.
I would give me the death penalty.
Speaker 2 (11:20):
I mean, I'm sitting there listening.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
To these people describe this evil I would have Uh yes,
I mean, I'm like, man, I have to keep in
mind and me that that's me they're talking about, because
I wanted to. It's horrible that I.
Speaker 2 (11:47):
I guess.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
One of the things that I could be grateful for
is I didn't lay it down.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
I have to accept that there's the ng more. I
had to because nobody deserves boot. So I had to
accept that there's something on me. And I had heard it,
and I became part of a group of people here
right now. I'm a mediator. But it was called reach
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it Speciptical Education and community giving.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
I became a part of that.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
And when they talked as the studio it stopped looking
to their eyes and looked at the victims as at.
Speaker 3 (12:34):
DAMI, Have you ever been affiliated with anybody from that
organization or known anybody from that organization?
Speaker 1 (12:42):
I had no.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
I've outrun them a couple of times.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
But now.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
Uh me and uh as it's adventure out of dating.
Uh up in a Beaumont and uh yeah, I had
long hair back then, and I walked into a bar
and they said, look at this sweet thing. Well, so
another when talking about her to talk about you was
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treating and uh, I just need those that we need
to be doing. And we lived at a Beaumont and
got halfway out to ghost Case, the type of town.
If you understand what I.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Mean, I mean, yeah, Now, I've never been a.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
I don't. I don't even like you. Look, that's a coward.
Anybody that has had to wear up to a coward.
I'm sorry, you know, I.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Don't much care for them because I think there are problems.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
That's what's almost the fact of today. You know, all
these groups breaking up, that's the problem. You know.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
As long as wing and I back on that again.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
But as long as we keep these little boxes of uh, well,
this person is gay, this person's great, this person is
this person's bad, and we keep the boxing, then we
keep the power.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
The government.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
It ain't the people. It ain't the government for people.
That the people for the government. Now. But if we
ever get over ourselves.
Speaker 6 (14:27):
And get beyond the new boxes that we're trying to
put everybody in and even ourselves, and we become a
whole people it's gonna be once again.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
It's gonna convert to a government for the people.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
So can you talk about how you were sentenced to
death and the few execution dates that you did have
that didn't go through and why they didn't go through?
Speaker 10 (14:53):
Well, uh, you go on.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
Our pen then.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I vac inum eighty. I forgot what wady back in
the eighties. Uh. One of the things if you ever watching,
you'll see me smile, you know when I'm sitting across.
I've always been talking, you know, because I was traffic.
You never allowed anybody to tease it.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
They hurt you, never let.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
The way it hurts you. So I cloud Uh and
that was Uh, I just got why won't you quits again? Oh?
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Basically, can you talk about how you were sentenced to
death and the few executions that you did have and
why they did not go through?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Oh? Yeah, well I've had a counble. I mean they
got what they called locker execution.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
Date is where you get uh, like they.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
Were posting bition. They put a date on you know
over there they.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
Put a date until you're out of court. Then they
put the real.
Speaker 8 (16:13):
Date on.
Speaker 1 (16:15):
Which I caught the real dates. And I've had two
of them. The one before was December the eighth, nine,
twenty twenty two, and uh the reason it got cut
off is because they weren't popularly throwing chemicals here to uh.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
Do that with, and they's allowing the chemicals to go bad,
you know when they when.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
They kept on a courting fairly pretty much.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
I've had uh so far.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
I just had that one other date, and then I
had this uh for September.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
Uh, except it's September twenty fourth or twenty seventh. I
forget now what exact date it is.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
My lawyers trying to think, you know you.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Got it, say you know that, no exactly that after
I will breathe, I'm sorry. I do not trust go
you know what I mean. I know you should trust
your largist. I'm don't you know, and uh.
Speaker 2 (17:30):
That has I'll do to you.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
I don't trust him.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I'm very lyric people I trusted. Back At twenty twenty two,
I got a letter from a bishop.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
From my old home long I think it would. He
was a bishop. He said, I heard you got the death.
I heard you got dated. I hope it takes a
long long time even die you wake up at I'm
like really that is very sad that people would believe
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like that. I mean, that is that is truth that
because life is valuable. I wish I would have known this,
but life I just secret, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
And it's I watch your interview you did with so much,
and that's true that you said.
Speaker 1 (18:37):
You know what I mean, if someone gets your death sir, uh.
Speaker 2 (18:42):
A murder, I'm a uh doesn't leave me.
Speaker 10 (18:47):
If someone gets your deaf since.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Then the uh.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
They you know, the punishment is as long as high
ver until then, or if someone get your last I
just wanted to laugh. And I will tell you from
my own experience, there's no way. I don't care who
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you are, that you can do something so evil, so
an acle and did not be in your brain. I
think about it every day.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Every day.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
That's in my brain.
Speaker 3 (19:34):
And Jackie, oh no, you're fine, You're fine. So Donnie.
So you're originally sentenced to death, right, and then in
nineteen was it nineteen ninety two your death sentence was
overturned to life in prison? Is that right?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Now?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Now, in nineteen the opinion they had a law called
the Middlebrook versus uh the States, and that was called
any murder And what It amounted to is that people
was using to tell any murders why that used to
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get a convinitional and that's usual to give a kick,
and we said you can't do that called double jeopardy.
Well I got kicked that of course.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
I think thirty something people got off death or except
the Mientle group. They they you.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Tacked set me back here.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
So so in nineteen you said, nineteen ninety seven, doc
ninety Okay, So so you just went to court your
descendants wasn't overturned. They were just were they like debated
on it or what like. What happened was that.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
I think they had to take the.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Now I heard it got a resent or something like that. Uh,
I really pay much change. I had got a resentence
and what I who I what I have gathered is
I went back to I went back to court and
they put another Uh what do you call that?
Speaker 2 (21:23):
They put a hack on me or you that.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
To keep the defence on me.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
So, so, Donnie, are you afraid to die if that
your time comes in September?
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Actually no, I know that sounds crazy to know.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
It's like, uh, you know, all the time I've been here,
I've worked through there.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
You know it's uh, you have nightments. You know, you
be cried, you have what tells you up, you know,
be any kind of a human being. It says your part.
You know what I'm saying. She don't do something like
that and you don't remember it. I'm sorry that don't happen,
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you know. Uh no, I actually look for for your ending.
No more night in there's no more memories, no more thoughts,
just ending.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
So do you feel do you feel at peace right now?
Or are you scared?
Speaker 8 (22:35):
Like?
Speaker 3 (22:35):
What is your mental health?
Speaker 5 (22:36):
Like?
Speaker 1 (22:36):
Right now? I'm thankful.
Speaker 2 (22:41):
I'm cool with it. I mean, you know, I'm all right.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
I'm not good with the dying park, Okay, because.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
Like I said, I they call.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Life is sacred. However, how the good would getting over
all that nightmares and.
Speaker 2 (23:08):
The sweat not sweat, and.
Speaker 1 (23:12):
The seizures and all that. I mean, it's all gone.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
So you're one hundred percent completely at peace no matter
what happens.
Speaker 1 (23:21):
Oh, yes, yes, I.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Really, I really am.
Speaker 1 (23:27):
I mean I talked to how can I say that?
Another individual?
Speaker 2 (23:33):
That mean last month, if you remember here, I.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Spoke with him and me and him would sit down
and uh, I asked him, I said, so they're going
to execute you here soon, right He said yeah. I said,
how do you hear you about that? And he said,
well on this book, and he said, they're finally going
to do something. Get off the pot. I hain't said that.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
We've all been here so long as.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Yeah that think knows why we're here, and we've all
been here thirty something forty something years, or it's not
not good.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
And if we doesn't that.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
I mean because we're investing it in the wrong thing.
We're investing in death. It should have been investing a life.
All the money I know, I'm back in my house,
but all the money that has been wasted or I
don't want to term wasted, but you know what I'm saying,
All the money to house felt Row could have been
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taken a tack to the inner city build somewhere they
could uh uh uh, people would get trained. Uh sup
of pennies.
Speaker 8 (24:55):
I mean.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
We're doing at factories.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
I'm doing it.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
When you call back, I want to talk to you
about the lawsuit that you're you're a plaintiff in right now,
but we're just gonna cut us off in like a
minute and a half. Are you able to hang up
real quick and call back so we can talk about that.
All right, okay, all right, sounds good. Okay, all right,
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Hey Jacob are you still in here? And Monica are
you still in here? If you guys want to come up,
you can. I'm only going to do like another one
and a half calls with him on. Let me invite
you up real quick. Hey, what's up? What's up? Oh?
Not much? How you doing?
Speaker 8 (25:41):
I'm good?
Speaker 3 (25:42):
That's good.
Speaker 5 (25:43):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Yeah, he's yeah, he's at riverbend right now. He's he's
scheduled for execution September twenty fourth. Donnie, I have a
friend up here named Jacob. He was wrongfully convicted.
Speaker 1 (25:54):
Do you know what? Do you know what?
Speaker 3 (25:55):
ZANNERI means? Yeah, okay, well this is this is Jacob,
this is Donald Middlebrooks.
Speaker 11 (26:04):
How are you doing? I'm trynasee. Yeah, but I was
exonerated out of this set.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
Yeah, he's Did you hear him? Yeah? Okay, yeah, yeah
he was. He's originally from Tennessee.
Speaker 11 (26:19):
I mightn't.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
I don't, yeah, but you know, I don't.
Speaker 2 (26:33):
People there there's not deserving this.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
I mean, I actually had some questions about him. People
didn't hear the older people I mean it makes you, hey,
we gonna creates the question, you know, honestly, I want
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you gotta.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
I wish that that was something that would.
Speaker 1 (27:04):
Be a patch of the cases because I have noticed
that if you're black and you're poor, you're gonna get
this one. And since if you're from a certain area,
I mean, there's nothing about that. I wish, I wish
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it would do.
Speaker 9 (27:30):
I actually wanted to get more involved in like justice
reform myself.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Uh exactly.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
I mean, because it's like it when you're talking about
when you're talking.
Speaker 1 (27:46):
About now thing death, you're not talking about. That's not
a very serious case. You need to take it serious.
And uh, if they're gonna have a death pointing and
like I said, I'm an impact, good don't let me
if I'm gonna have we're gonna have death. Conte, we
don't think walking him percent sure, you know what I mean?
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If there is any doubt.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I would I would Ruther stand in front of God.
Speaker 1 (28:18):
And him say, well find that you let the junky
person go. Then stand in front of God and he said,
well why did you kill someone that was innis?
Speaker 11 (28:27):
Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
It's better than let ten guilty people go free than
to kill one innocent person, for sure, exactly.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
Exactly get on as they got. I think they're at
the state shoes, two people jumping, don't you've got some
guys and they got five and kill the murders and
population again. If I'm you got you got shaated got one.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
And here they are.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, I don't even know that.
Speaker 9 (29:13):
I was in a maximum security prison, you know, and
with a with a thirty five with an eighty five sentence,
and I couldn't even bitch because everybody that I was
in there with was doing triple life and quadruple life.
And but but it's crazy because I really didn't even
mean to kill the dude that I killed, you know.
I was just not shun going to get my ass
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whooped in a bar fight. And the guy happened to die.
And I eventually got exonerated for it, you know, but
I ended up doing seven years in prison before they
finally overturned my case and all that.
Speaker 11 (29:52):
A lot of people say that, but we're just so.
Speaker 9 (29:55):
It was up bringing experience, you know, and I I
became a I feel like a better, smarter, wiser, more patient,
you know.
Speaker 11 (30:04):
I used it for the better and not for the worse.
Speaker 2 (30:11):
Yeah, just like that, even a vacation.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
And then you know he had a fat and some
a bunch of hit and die.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
That's a good.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
To be in here on someone at h one each carreer.
And this guy got in, the fat guy who had
hit the pavement and he died. He got the I
mean it's messed up.
Speaker 9 (30:44):
Yeah, man, you know I used to I had a
he wasn't just my seventh grade teacher, but he was
also my football coach.
Speaker 11 (30:53):
And uh it was mister Gridson and somebody.
Speaker 9 (30:58):
People used to say, well, mister g so, that's not fair,
and he'd say the fairs in August.
Speaker 11 (31:04):
And I've thought of that my whole life. You know,
every time I think, you know, life just think fair.
She just think fair.
Speaker 1 (31:12):
You know.
Speaker 11 (31:12):
I hear mister Grison in my head say the fairs
in August. Ain't nothing fair around here. That's what he
was saying.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
You know, I am you got about it, dumb?
Speaker 5 (31:29):
I mean, oh yeah, well my dumb mans went back
to pre I went to prison in Tennessee after I
got out in New Jersey, which is retarded.
Speaker 11 (31:40):
I know, I've been on parole. I've been on parole
over four years.
Speaker 9 (31:46):
I've got a perfect record so far, and I'm doing
real good, and I don't I'm ever going back. And
I really do want to do more, get more involved
with whatever I can to, you know, try to make
a difference for legal reform. Uh any any there's plenty
of causes that need somebody to stand up for them,
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you know. And if I could use my life story
to you know, influence people or whatever. Uh, if I
could use it for for for a benefit to the world,
I'm for it.
Speaker 1 (32:21):
Well you know what. You know, I was traffic to
my mom, you know, And that's one of the reasons
that I took the mediation class. If I haven't a
chance to step out there to call the child that's
going to this, I'm not gonna tell you, I'm not
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gonna help them. Some I don't because they would tell
my Mester.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
Black you know.
Speaker 8 (32:50):
What it is.
Speaker 9 (32:54):
I had a conversation with my dad the other day.
He's like, you know, I wouldn't tell people that, And
I said, well, I guess that's the difference between.
Speaker 8 (33:01):
Me and you.
Speaker 11 (33:02):
You know, I don't care to look bad. I don't
care what people think about me.
Speaker 9 (33:07):
If I can shed light on something that will keep
somebody from going down the path that I took and
saved them that that heartache.
Speaker 11 (33:16):
You know, then that's what I want to do. I
don't care how bad I look or how big of
a dumb ass it makes me look.
Speaker 9 (33:23):
If I could change the course of someone's life, you know,
that would give me a purpose that.
Speaker 11 (33:30):
All the bullshit that I've worked here wasn't for nothing.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
You know, I commit you to play lives Glass Last
is right, I'll convince I'm go. I'm convinced your we're
creating an image of God. And you know, if you
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look at you know, at you, you look at Genesis
challenge me for saving it is that, uh we became
a living showing God. I think that part is the
image God. Flitch right, and.
Speaker 11 (34:14):
That part is hippy, Yeah, yeah, I it's it's pretty ironic.
Speaker 9 (34:26):
You know that I've been in prison, you know, accused
of murder for beating a human being to death, and
I am actually like, I don't wish no ill on
any creature on this earth, you know, I don't want
no problems with nobody.
Speaker 11 (34:41):
And uh, it's just.
Speaker 9 (34:46):
It's just kind of strange life is sometimes, but you
know it's everybody has their own path, and everybody has
their own journey in life, and uh, you know.
Speaker 11 (35:01):
Right exactly. It sure does.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
And I I'll think of thinking, my yard, I'm sorry,
it's not I take it.
Speaker 9 (35:23):
Yeah, it's just the you learn to look at things,
so from such a different perspective. Man, there's not many
people like I wasn't on death Throw, but I felt
like I was. You know, I didn't know if I
was ever getting out. I didn't know if I would
ever see my mom again. You know, like most people
don't know what they're like. I feel that, and uh,
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you know, it's it's it's a trip for sure. And
so when people tell me that they're sorry, I I
this and this is true. This is some real life
true ship. I'm sorry for them that they don't appreciate
life the way I do. That they haven't learned to
appreciate the way I have, you know what I'm saying.
So it's it's it's it's crazy.
Speaker 1 (36:09):
Yeah. Well, you know, the actual difference between you and
death Row is a sentence on because like you said,
you're still with through hell. You know, people don't understand,
uh a lot of sense of death Row. It's a
sentence and you still go through hell, you know, I
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mean you still think about the pile mat freaking day,
you know.
Speaker 8 (36:38):
And.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
Godesspecially on the holidays. Squall, I mean it preaching people,
b I commend you, man, you take up that good
you keep up good battle.
Speaker 11 (36:53):
Okay, yes, sir, I sure will.
Speaker 1 (36:57):
We need you.
Speaker 11 (37:00):
Will.
Speaker 8 (37:01):
I appreciate getting talking to you, man, you know, and
I can already I can already tell you that, yes, sir,
hang in there, man, Oh yeah, yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
So Donnie so so currently you're a plaintiff in a
federal litigation, right challenging the constitution. Constitution. However, you said
that word of the Tennessee's lethal injection procedures, right, yeah,
so can you talk about that?
Speaker 1 (37:39):
But you know, I found a flannel that I wish
I would have done it long before the other guys,
because the two of the guys went before, you know,
and they.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
Didn't. It was a tree there. I mean, I think
they as the saying a pre wor.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
But they're pumped. Man, I'm gonna passionate about I'm.
Speaker 2 (38:16):
Sorry, but I'm really really yeah, I'm.
Speaker 1 (38:20):
Intention a lot. This one thing like that, you know
that Justin's or whatever but having someone to struggle like
that and just no, I'm sorry, I can't even imagine that.
I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (38:41):
So, so you were you were referring to the last
two bots? Were you referring to boxed executions? Is that
what you were talking about?
Speaker 1 (38:48):
Uh? And uh do you remember Donnie Johnson?
Speaker 3 (38:53):
Donnie Johnson? I the name doesn't sound familiar, but I'll
have to look him up.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Well he was before this one.
Speaker 8 (39:01):
He uh.
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Had the guy after one time back. I wish thought
this back before he's hit because I'm a man. It's
horrible and I'm sad. I wish i'd had each respect
to La and I'm out there you didn't hear anything,
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you'd be a whole new view a life. You know
after Uh, it just don't even think about it, just
goes from one day to the next. But and hear
you you wanted to appreciate even the small things in mine,
you know, I mean you appreciate friends and appreciate me breathing.
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You appreciate them breathing and another taste sharing, yo, I
mean appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
That's why it hurts so much, girl.
Speaker 1 (40:07):
You know I can see a friend go. I mean
it really mh It hurts more than anything to stand
at your door.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
And watch to when someone said.
Speaker 1 (40:19):
Why do you says do what we do? When it
caught me fick do you can you last deep of
watching someone go? But it still makes that crap because
you cannot do nothing to help someone you know for
thirty something years. You can't stay and can't do it.
Watch you can't stay and can't do that. Watch and
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every time you see them, they're gonna be on on
the news. And because of that, that is so oh
my god, that is ef. They can call it. I
don't care what they call that evil. It's fire.
Speaker 3 (41:02):
If this goes through in September. Is there anything you
want the world to learn about yourself or the death
penalty or anything when it comes to them taking your life?
Speaker 2 (41:14):
That everybody here is more than that.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Worth the worst five minutes of the life. You know,
you all have good in us and we all have bad.
I think I at one time I am some one
cache which group you you bad? And I chose bad
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group that we're gotten here and a lot of people
make that mistake. That's a mistake.
Speaker 2 (41:50):
Don't forget that.
Speaker 1 (41:52):
Don't forget the pad. I don't think going up that's
good going up. I mean that comes more than a
him five minutes where they committed the most critic climate
you could imagine. I wish I wouldn't. I wish I
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would have known.
Speaker 2 (42:18):
More than I know that well, no one I know
now more than one I you out there.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
I wish I often say I would have actually taken
time to teach me, you know what I mean, to
fix my head. But it's like I said, Uh, I
can't blame them because they weren't there. My mom wasn't there.
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It was me. I had to kept that responsibility. But
I want people to know that I'm a lot more
than that five minutes. I'm a lot more that I meant.
I'm I'm a son, I'm a father, and I'm a
writer of shoot what heck?
Speaker 3 (43:08):
The friends? So, Donnie, somebody asked, do you have any
regrets in life?
Speaker 1 (43:15):
Oh? Yeah, right here, this is the worst regret of
my life, even leaving Texas and coming to see Uh yeah,
I just wise people. I won't cat you to know
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that I'm a lot more in that fat and what
I really want to know, and that's the hardest thing
to die under, is that label.
Speaker 3 (43:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
That I hate things that.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
It's like a throwing in my side. That's the worst thing,
even about going over that's the worst, you.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
Know, because I thought all my life and.
Speaker 1 (44:14):
The guy I said, that's why fan m hm, that's
that's That's why I want people knew about that. Now.
You know I screwed up. They've grown choice, you.
Speaker 10 (44:31):
Know, their life.
Speaker 8 (44:32):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (44:37):
I just I wish, I wish I could go back
in time.
Speaker 1 (44:40):
That's where I really regret. Is I regret.
Speaker 6 (44:47):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (44:49):
I may just regret all this. I don't. I don't
regret what I did. You know, because my mom may
be choose between me and my baby sister, which one
of us it is gonna service men, and I chose Lee.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
I don't regret that.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
I would still make that same choice again. That was
my biggest pitch. I mean, I would still do that.
That that's the most. That's what I want people to
know about now, more than that five minutes that they've
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heard about. There's more than the book than uh it's
race card that this state needs to tank on Misers
because he's not he's not he's not even were in
that vicinity.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
You felt like the mississ that represented your case when
it was a race crame when it when it wasn't.
So so if it wasn't a race crame, what would
you say that it was just I know you said
that he was slow and that's why he was unlive.
But what do you.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
It was some evil, hateful people. It was out on
the planet. I talked about me and there's just some
evil people people. It wasn't about racist about hate. There
was people that was just had people in their mind,
hatred in their heart, and they didn't kills who they call,
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you know, I mean, it wouldn't have mattered if he
was purple, that was that would have been the outcome.
All right, thank you, and that would have been the
outcome I just got cost. I'm got uh. That would
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have been the outcome of okay, you know the results.
He died. He didn't die come from no races. He died.
But it's like I told, uh, that's allrier.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
He was talking out of he's ringing his hands.
Speaker 1 (47:02):
Because he had a win because my grandmother's school bloody
and he said, you know, of course we had to
live by the railroad track because that when white people
lived lived by the school. Uh.
Speaker 2 (47:15):
He had good cown over on railroad track.
Speaker 1 (47:18):
He had the black gun on the other side of
raroad track and uh he had a sure win. He
just he had a sure win. And I at him
in that's a goody.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
What does it matter?
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Did that boy gets crawled back out of the ground.
And that guy looked at me and like I lost
my mind when I said that. Really, what doesn't matter?
You know, I mean, I'm say what didn't matter?
Speaker 8 (47:48):
You know?
Speaker 1 (47:49):
I participated in this. What does it matter? I get
aggravated myself to ben stupid.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
So, Donnie, you said that, you said that he was
un alive because he was slow. Were you chasing all
of his friends or just him?
Speaker 1 (48:05):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (48:05):
He checked the whole crew, everybody, I think it and
all of them.
Speaker 1 (48:09):
I mean he feels he felt and got caught.
Speaker 3 (48:14):
Do you remember how many of them there were?
Speaker 1 (48:17):
No, I've been some pieces and that. I mean I've
read some pieces. I've been trying to erase that out
of my hated they were his vain. I've tried everything
just to uh get rid of it. Don't go it,
don't weark that can. I prayed that, you know, I
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got God to have me. I mean, I've tried everything.
I've been praying and meditating, and that you know they
got rid of. That's hid me. It's helped me to
deal with accept me, Duke can. It's made me. It's
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created in me a desire to uh you know, uh,
like have a truth. Even that happened, they had a
truth and reconciliation thing. They should have that here because
I mean I would yet and I understand that, then
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I'm gonna have contact. They have to have offensive myself.
But if you know, to be's some family.
Speaker 2 (49:31):
If they won't sit.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
Back, come and sorry, you know what, I accept that
because that's mine.
Speaker 2 (49:37):
I earned it right.
Speaker 1 (49:39):
Whatever thing they won't call, I earned that, you know,
it's because that's I forget it. Forget it. That's not
the person that forgive it. It's fucking you know, it's
fucking right.
Speaker 3 (50:00):
So somebody asked, Donnie, do other inmates have issues with
you because it's labeled as a hate crime? What do
other inmates have issues with you on death row because
it's labeled a hate crime?
Speaker 2 (50:12):
Now I get along with everybody. Everybody goes away, I mean.
Speaker 1 (50:21):
Really, and I'm like, yeah, you know, they got me
with the hate crime. Fuck uh huh, And I have
to show.
Speaker 2 (50:31):
Up I had this show pay people. I mean, they
really got this.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
Only I how steaky it is. I think he's speaky anyway,
because honestly.
Speaker 2 (50:46):
That term.
Speaker 1 (50:47):
I think that curve is dun because you never had
that insident to take. Please and look, I I'm just.
Speaker 10 (50:56):
Sorry, it's not you know, it don't matter, roight me?
Speaker 3 (51:09):
Right, So it's about to cut us off in a minute,
are you able to call back one more time?
Speaker 1 (51:17):
Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3 (51:26):
If I don't hear from you in like five minutes,
then I'll then I'll know that that you weren't able
to get the phone again.
Speaker 11 (51:32):
I'm not real familiar with the details of it.
Speaker 9 (51:35):
I mean I know the gist of it, but I
don't know any of the details, like like the cause
of death like that if it was a beating or
a stabbing or a torture.
Speaker 3 (51:45):
Right. So, so basically, long story short, this African American
kid was with his friends. This these two men and
this woman chased him, basically grabbed him by the neck,
heard him, abused him, peede on him, did all such
of sorts of horrible things to him. And then the
fatal wounds were too two pricks. I don't know if
you could say the s T A B word, but
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two pricks to the chest, which he claims he did one,
and then Brewington did one. But Brewington claims that middlebrook
delivered both fatal blows, which will always be up for
discussion because you know who wants to admit that, you
know what I mean, I mean, Middlebrooks admits his wrongdoing
for sure, But then and then his wife, Tammy Middlebrooks,
she's been released. I was trying to find her. I'm
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assuming she's changed her name by now. I would if
I were her. I don't know what she got out
of prison, but but yeah, it's a it's a really
brutal case.
Speaker 9 (52:38):
A few of the last name. Where I'm from, which
I mean I'm not from very far. Where Where did
that happen?
Speaker 3 (52:45):
At it happened in? Let me see real quick, Davidson.
Speaker 11 (52:57):
County, fifteen minutes from there.
Speaker 3 (53:02):
Yeah, yeah, I'll ask him what, I'll ask him what
exact city it was?
Speaker 11 (53:08):
So Davidson County, that's pretty much Nashville.
Speaker 3 (53:12):
Yeah, it might have been Nashville now that I think
about it, But I'm honestly blanking on where it Where
it did happen.
Speaker 1 (53:18):
Department of corrections. Have we ever been maximum security institution?
Speaker 3 (53:23):
Hey, Donnie, was this in Nashville? Okay? It was in Nashville? Okay, okay,
because I know it was Davidson County. I was, I
wasn't sure what city it was in.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
Yeah, yeah about up right?
Speaker 9 (53:44):
It ain't it?
Speaker 1 (53:46):
I mean, and he can elasted Field, but not the
comment street up. But I mean, I'm a comfort boy,
you know how I'm from amhm or you know, if
you go out and break wind, don't that what you had?
Your pan bus?
Speaker 2 (54:07):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (54:09):
I'm a live case.
Speaker 8 (54:12):
You know.
Speaker 5 (54:15):
I was.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
I was ready to respect that. I don't what the
heck happened to me? You know, I don't know what
you know.
Speaker 3 (54:27):
What happened, right? I mean, there's a there's a million
different things that could have happened. But you know, I'm
not a doctor by any means. I'm definitely not gonna
give my opinion. But I I've read, I've read thoroughly
about your case. I do I do know it is
true you were traffic by your mother for years, and
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I'm sure that has you all mentally messed up. You know,
I can't imagine my own mother or father doing that
to me. So I'm sorry that's happened to you, and
I know that's happened to countless other people. But you know,
there's there's there's there's the argument hurt people, hurt people,
but sometimes hurt people do not hurt people. It's just
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it's just a extenuating circumstances sometimes, you know. So it
so some some people want to say, you know, people
want to blame abuse for what they've done, but then
look at me. You know, I was abused, I was this,
and that I haven't done anything but mental health, drugs, alcohol,
all that definitely plays a part in and somebody going
down the wrong path, you know it.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
And I don't mean it does good.
Speaker 1 (55:34):
Like I've told you before, until the accept responsibility for
your own actions, you can't be you mean, do my
child would say, and I've got it. Yeah, it's but
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you know there's a lot of people that through this
don't do that, you know, that get high and pat
mess of chatters that don't go around killing people. I mean,
so I'm not having to really view with the life.
Speaker 2 (56:19):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (56:20):
I don't pat myself on the bag that you can see.
I'm not Uh, I'm probably my almost crew.
Speaker 3 (56:26):
So you mentioned God a few times, Donnie, and I'm
not religious by any means, but I'm curious. Do you
feel like you've been forgiven if there is a God,
and if so, do you feel like there's an afterlife
to where you'll you'll be an internal you know, like
damnation or do you feel like you'll go to heaven
if there is a If there is a heaven, I
know that I.
Speaker 1 (56:46):
Have there's you know, I mean, I believe in both
heaven and hell, but I really believe in heaven, and
I I think that that's where I'm headed.
Speaker 2 (57:02):
Because God ain't no hole him.
Speaker 10 (57:08):
I mean, that's what kay, that's what uh.
Speaker 1 (57:12):
Not REGIMSI uh, you know, repentance. I mean in God
died a students just as bad as you know that.
I mean in God guys one one prints of sin,
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and I think when he said he forgives sin, he
forgives the sin and for someone to say where he
couldn't and that's because God's short. But then having the
ability to accept the person's reteenpence, I mean if the
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person true ends heard and God knows the heart, he
de pints of this. Yes, I do believe that he
will go ahead.
Speaker 3 (58:09):
So let's say you do go to heaven and Kerrick
is there. What what do you think you would say
to him if he was standing in front of you
asking you why his life was cut so short.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
I don't know if I.
Speaker 1 (58:25):
Could say anything. I mean everything I said was just
called more hurt. It just caused memory.
Speaker 2 (58:37):
And I don't know if I would, you know, I
think he would already know.
Speaker 1 (58:47):
Seriously, I mean, I think we had that ability and
after that the next flash that we know a person's heart,
if we can see the intire and.
Speaker 2 (59:01):
I think he would already know that.
Speaker 1 (59:05):
I think he would already know that. Happy worked at
my grandma. You know she's up there.
Speaker 3 (59:16):
Oh my goodness, did she pass away? Did she pass
away before this happened?
Speaker 1 (59:21):
Yes? And I really, you know, that's what made me
go put in that house. You know, Grandma got cancer
and they remember in Texas and I was.
Speaker 5 (59:33):
She died.
Speaker 1 (59:33):
I went to that house and I was there for
ninety days to the insurance ran out, and then I
went to a branch just to uh to uh what
do you call that house? I was there and I
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told him, but I was trying to go back, you know,
because of I knew I didn't need to be a
out there. I could already tell I did not need
to be out.
Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
And the guy that was over the brass house.
Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
He says, well, min and Brook, we can't put you back.
Uh your insurance is out, so I gotta give.
Speaker 2 (01:00:18):
Me mister peel.
Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
Mister who mister peel. Yes, I got a mister.
Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Pier cruve top and I said, on a curve.
Speaker 1 (01:00:30):
And I struck in the down seeing it on a
curve right, and I said there after one.
Speaker 10 (01:00:39):
Shade of my arms to the other opened the.
Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
Door, and he was like, oh wow. I mean I
had asked this.
Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
I did not hate to be out there, and I
told this guy I did not need to be out there.
You know, I don't need to be in society right now.
And uh he really you didn't care, but really you
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didn't care as uh uh path down, I'm shut up
a pil have things down, lay my arm hope, and
I said, now any day evening. Of course I went
up there as doctor and I too were what it
(01:01:39):
called them in terms of one of their right and
the doctor is provit com I don't need to tell
that's the way. We can't take it back. Well, I look,
and he had the male doctor and young in terms,
you know what I did. But I got a girlfriends
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here that bought me extra week. That about me an
extra week and and not half comfort man, not half
comfort man, saying I just hope people, I really do.
I hope that our world wakes up.
Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
And they stop investing in.
Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
This murder and start investing in killing people. Let's speed.
Speaker 2 (01:02:42):
Yeah, I just really I was like.
Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
To see people. I hope people just stack way from
pack dolomy on this murder that does not sob anything
and start advancing and uh you for what happens?
Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
How are you going to.
Speaker 1 (01:03:11):
Uh huh, hey don't happen? That makes sense.
Speaker 3 (01:03:18):
Have you thought about your last requests, you know, last meal?
What's gonna happen, you know, after the fact, Like, have
you thought of any of that or is it just
gonna be like you're gonna wing it?
Speaker 1 (01:03:29):
Oh yeah, I wanna hold I can jump up my
last thankfully crid oprah Uh yeah, uh black ad pee. Yeah.
(01:03:53):
You know, I'm an I won't simple bunch of things.
Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
Right, I'm sure it's I'm sure it's hard to think about.
I don't think I could ever think about what my
last meal would be, because I want to I would
be I would be so sick to my stomach. I
don't think i'd be able to eat.
Speaker 10 (01:04:14):
It's really a hard steps to think about.
Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
Because black.
Speaker 10 (01:04:23):
Black, it's hard such a thing about. Oh, it's scary to.
Speaker 1 (01:04:33):
Think about that.
Speaker 3 (01:04:35):
Yeah, I can only imagine. So, Donnie, let's let's let's
say let's say hypothetically you were you were to be
re sentenced to life with the possibility of parl and
you did get out. Do you think you could be
rehabilitated to where you wouldn't offend again ever again in
the free world, even just a like assault or or
probation violation anything like that.
Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
No, I mean as she should hurt me. That already
pretty much that that's when I get in here, even
though I do know I have uh that to day right, I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Pretty much really do take myself in here even though
I don't see that, I.
Speaker 1 (01:05:21):
Can't see freedom, but I have to look at the
mirror of the day, you know. And like I said,
I was traffic.
Speaker 2 (01:05:29):
Well, that can be my downfallow, that.
Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Can be my narrative. It happened to me that means
that I have a gift. And I hate to call
that a gift. Ill and I hate to call that
a gift because it's really evil in itself. I have
a guilt that I can share with, say a child
(01:05:56):
being abused for traffic. Actually sit down, and they said
opening a book. I said down and I talked to
a child war on one another. Actually, I talked to
one on about this about the tractic. You know, Uh,
they're not I'm I'm talking about them. Listen they I mean,
(01:06:20):
that's what I'm working at, tourist, you know, sometimes to
get the opportunity to write and here and uh one
one named a high school. We had high school here
we wrote for we can Reach. And I used to
wrest them about you know that being traffic and stuff.
(01:06:43):
I used to wrap them about that if they had
problems that they would rather let us know. Father Ryan,
that said father Ryan. But that's my goal, you know,
my going to rehabilitate one stuff in here. I said, Yes,
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I'm not gonna get in trouble unto two reasons.
Speaker 2 (01:07:10):
One A two old.
Speaker 1 (01:07:14):
And hair is gone. And two I got my learning
a little bit better. And uh, I got more of
a respect of appreciation for life. That what I have.
You know, yeah, I think rehabilitation actually start b here you.
Speaker 2 (01:07:42):
Who you are, I mean, don't be rehabilitated.
Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
Is the idea of getting out reabilitate because you don't
like who you are, if you can let me, if
you want to sit back at that image because you
can't stand the image that you have to come so
you want to you want to change because you don't
(01:08:07):
you want to accept that, and like I said, you
want to accept the stop scooping. You don't realize you're broken,
and the only way to take someone broken is to
work on killing you don't know. The first step of
that is I'm said, I've been acting. Yeah, I mean
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that's you know, in honor.
Speaker 2 (01:08:35):
For someone to.
Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Come to the realization.
Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
If they're broken, okay, come to realization they.
Speaker 1 (01:08:47):
Need help, is to come to the realization that hey,
excue us and said something. I don't know what it is,
and I wish I could put my thing on it
right now.
Speaker 2 (01:08:58):
I don't know what it is.
Speaker 1 (01:09:00):
Something crazy in h and gave except that twisted mind
to take it. Okay, it it works, you know, I mean,
give us a mind to take that that was an
acceptable behavior when it was.
Speaker 3 (01:09:24):
Yeah, yeah, is there any Is there anything you want
anybody to know about you that's not already public that
you've never shared with the prosecution, media, anything like that.
Speaker 2 (01:09:39):
Pretty much to day what we did dot here that.
Speaker 1 (01:09:44):
It's a much harbwash. I'm just me. I'm a country boy. Uh,
it's screwed up. I'm not some or what doing John
kre or something like.
Speaker 5 (01:10:00):
That, you know.
Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
I mean, I'm just a country boy. I'm more than that.
Five minutes in that five minutes, Ah, that's all I
pretty much more to know. You know, people know that
about me.
Speaker 2 (01:10:22):
I want to know. Never catch yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
House and never give up on your dream because I
don't care who you are, don't care what you are,
you can reach that dream.
Speaker 2 (01:10:35):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:10:36):
That's it is full of people with global dreams.
Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
I can only imagine. And nightmares too, I bet.
Speaker 1 (01:10:44):
Oh god, yeah, I'll tell you at that time, and
I'm not how I don't wanna talk about about that.
But you want to talk about the lip ring? Oh
my gosh.
Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
At that time you can hear gripp ring.
Speaker 1 (01:10:59):
You don't know who it is.
Speaker 2 (01:11:01):
You always hear someone whippering, and you know that time's got.
Speaker 1 (01:11:07):
A bit that right here, you cut your head, bo
turned to scare you walk and just hope it goes away.
Speaker 3 (01:11:15):
Yeah, I can only imagine. I'm sure there's well, there,
there's there's there's one gentleman on death thrill for sure.
I know who is innocent. Who's Gary Sutton. I'm sure
you're friends with him? Correct?
Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
Uh? Yeah, I get along with everybody. I mean, he
can't get me, you know, and hat and uh, I
guess I get this from my grandma. Just my grandma
used to be tapped at. You come up cash, grab
a chair and put up at the table and don't
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even eat, don't leave without evil. For me, I'm just
a country boy.
Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
Where people see they get I don't.
Speaker 1 (01:12:03):
I'm sure.
Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
I appreciate you calling today, Donnie. Oh no, you're okay,
You're okay, But yeah, I know I appreciate you calling.
And I have somebody that wants to talk to you
on the phone. Are you able to call back in
like ten minutes or do you want to try tomorrow?
Are you all talked out atween? Okay? Okay, okay, okay, yeah,
(01:12:33):
I don't want to get you in trouble then, okay,
all right, all right, thank you, Donnie. We'll talk to
you soon, Okay, all right.