August 2, 2024 • 45 mins
Owen and Stoney recap the week as the Tennessee Titans kicked off training camp over at Saint Thomas Sports Park. From Treylon Burks to Jarvis Brownlee Jr., who is going to step up in the absence of established starters? Is Malik Willis starting to put it all together? Is the right side of the offensive line approaching concerning territory? Is Kenneth Murray about to make the haters look like idiots? Are Titans fans sleeping on Jack Gibbens? All this and more!
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the Dad Zone Outspoken Owen read Owen, how you doing today?
My man?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Hey, everybody, Hey Stony Hay Skype notification. Uh, I'm doing good.
We're getting closer and closer to football season. Uh, and
I'm feeling it.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Man, did you did you watch any of the Hall
of Fame game last night?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I sure did. A lot of football happened. Not good football,
but football.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Is Colin Johnson the next Randy Ma. People are asking, I.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Mean, I don't know. I wouldn't go that far. I
saw a lot of guys out there that were trying
their bit. I don't know if there most of them
will make the team. The Texans looked really rough on
that third string defense, but yeah, I don't think that's
gonna matter much.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah it was. It felt like a true sicko moment
when I'm like into the third quarter and I'm looking
for players like maybe I've scouted in previous drafts, like
just trying to trying to watch the game and break
it down, like formations that are as vanilla as possible
that we're never gonna see in the regular season. And
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they're attempting fifty eight yard field goals in the Hall
of Fame game. I'm like, man, we are so back, baby,
We're so back. And then of course we got a
weather delay, and that's when I tuned out, So I
admit for as much of a sicko as our listeners
think I am when it comes to this stuff. I
did not watch the entire Hall of Fame game, but
I did have like a surreal moment sitting in mL
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rowse out in Mount Juliet last night where I was
just kind of like, oh shit, it's back, Like football
is here, man, and and I'm excited about it. I'm excited,
uh to talk training camp some of the news of
the week with you. But just before we start, man,
the general vibes like what are you How do you
feel about this team right now? Like a week indo
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training camp? Are you? Is the optimism still there? The
excitement level still there? What do you think about where
this team's at right now? Owen?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
You know that's a loaded questions, Tony. Uh, you know,
I still feel a general sense of optimism. I feel
like it's a better team than it was last year,
and that's all you can ask for. But I also
feel like there's some some cracks showing a little bit.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was an eventful week. I mean,
now we have DeAndre Hopkins as sideline for four to
six weeks. Arden Paul Kaharski reported he would be missing
six games due to suspension for got popped for Peeds.
It sounds like that might like there still hasn't been
an official announcement, so maybe they catch a break there.
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But debilitating blow to a pass rush unit that was
already pretty thin. And then the incident between Jeffrey Simmons
and Buck Rising he called him a pussy on Live
on one oh four or five to zone. Not a
good day, and from the reports that we heard, the
offense wasn't really looking that good against the defense. Maybe
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a frustrated Brian Callahan drops in a press conference this
week that the negative stuff around here tends to be overblown. Man,
it just didn't sound like a good day. But at
the same time, I think it's good for this team
to kind of face a little adversity. And the angle
I'm taking with it is up to this point it
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has by and large been all sunshine and rainbows. I
know there's some Tavandre Sweat haters out there that have
tried to make the conversation miserable, but I feel like
the reviews of Brian Callahan, Ran Carthon, will Levis, Calvin Ridley,
the free agent additions the draft class everything has been
met with glowing reviews so far. So maybe it's a
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good thing that this team had a couple bad days
this week, because now you start to get into that
territory where these scraps, these hiccups can build character and
you grow from it. What do you think of that angle, Owen?
How do you feel about how this team can respond
to adversity?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, I mean, this is the time to make mistakes.
You'd rather figure them out in training camp in the
middle of the season. Yeah, So, I mean you're never
thrilled with mistakes and fall backs and all that kind
of stuff happening, but this is the time to do it.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Well, let's talk about stepping up a little bit. But
because it's been a theme this week, there's there's been
some injuries, first and foremost, what do you what do
you think about the DeAndre Hopkins injury four to six
weeks sounds like it he might be available for Week one,
but it might go into the season. We might not
see him until week three. How how big of a
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blow is that to the receiving core for the Titans.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, I think we're at this point, like five and
a half weeks out from Week one, yeah. Uh so, yeah,
I mean, obviously that's a huge blow. That's uh, that's
your number two guy. Uh. You know you're obviously hoping
that the Dolphins comes full strength. You know, they're not super.
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It didn't seem like they were super addressing it. Uh,
they did have the knee wrapped. Yeah, but it doesn't
look maajor by any means. So hopefully it's not, you know,
a long term issue that we deal with throughout the
season and once you in, I mean a good time
to hopefully get it out of the way.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
That's what I'm saying. Man Like, if we can get
this out of the way and get healthy and not
have to worry about it, that would be great. You
hope it's not one of those nagging situations where you
see it with players sometimes where like one thing starts,
you know, one knee starts acting up a little bit,
and then the other knee suffers because the player's favoring it, Like,
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just shut him down, Just shut him down for a
few weeks, let him get healthy, and then go into
the season at one hundred percent. I hope that's the case.
But guys are going to have to step up because
I mean, you mentioned it Hopkins, a valuable member of
this receiving corps, one of the key cogs in this
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passing game. He was the key cog in the passing
game last year. He has that chemistry already set with
Will Levis. Who are you looking at to emerge in
Hopkins' potential absence or at the very least, maybe this
is a better way of framing the question. Who do
you think can capitalize the most from getting more reps
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with the first team offense?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Man, I feel like trailing Burks is really setting himself
up for success. They said he's put on like you know,
I don't know if it's twenty pounds of muscle, but
a lot of muscle. Just looking better looking, Sharper, you know,
he's in that. We've called it multiple times already that
the proven year. Yeah, and it seems like at this
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point he said out to prove it. So I think
that's gonna be who steps up.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I'm with you, man, Like this is kind of it's
almost like a story book. It's almost poetic. How all
offseason that a lot of the talk has been about
how improved Traylon Burks has been. And I will say,
just from watching the camp clips, that everybody's shuffling around
this week. The nuance to his game is what has
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been most impressive, running comeback route, post corners, things where
you have to kind of use nuance to get open
a little bit, you know, shaking shaking the hips one
way and moving the other way to get the defensive
back to bite. I think that is an advanced, an
advanced characteristic of Treylon Burke's game that we haven't seen before.
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So in addition to that, you have this hype building. Well,
now all of a sudden there's an opening and it's
it's an opportunity, and now it's kind of put up
or shut up where we are going to see whether
or not we were we were right to buy into
this Burke's hype. As he you, you'd figure he's going
to be the guy that's gonna start getting reps in
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that Hopkins role. I don't know, though there is old
faithful out there still Owen. I'm gonna bring up a name.
I'm gonna bring up a name that has been somewhat
polarizing in the Titans fan base, Nick Westbrookakine. He's just
old reliable, old reliable out there. We've written him off
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year after year, and yet he keeps getting contracts with
this team, and he keeps showing up in the big moments,
and lo and behold. This week, there have been a
few reps come out where n WI is getting open,
reliable hands. This is a good guy that you want.
I've said it all along, like you want this guy
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as your fourth, fifth, sixth receiver, really good in that role.
We've seen him when called upon to be more. He's
been a little spotty, but by and large, I think
he's a good security blanket, a good safety valve type
of wide receiver. Do you give him any shot if
they call upon him to fill the the X role
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that Hopkins is filling.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I mean, I share your sentiment. Maybe not to your
full extent. You're the biggest NWI fan I know, but
I think you said that he is a good utility receiver.
He's proved that, you know, throughout his time throughout his
time here. Yeah, I don't know if he's gonna be
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you know, And obviously you're not looking to replace Hopkins
at this point, But as far as the spot filler,
we need a guy to step up, don't I don't
see why not.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, I mean, I kind of wonder if Brian Callahan's
gonna go platoon mode with this and just give all
of these guys a few reps with the first team
just in case, instead of just giving it to one guy.
So it'll be interesting to kind of watch how the
wide receivers are deployed in practice while Hopkins is gone,
and then you hope that he's healthy for the start
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of the regular season and that you're not counting on
these guys to be something more than what they've been
so far, because I think that's part of the trouble
the Titans of the last couple of years have gotten into,
is that maybe they didn't address the wide receiver position
heavily enough, and then they got into the season, somebody
got hurt and they were counting on Nwi to be
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the guy, and it's just not an ideal spot. It's
not fair to put those expectations on him, and it's
not reliable to move the chains, so to speak. So
I'm kind of curious to see how the wide receiver
usage is going to pan out over the next several weeks.
The cornerback side of things is really interesting because Cheetoh
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a Woozie goes down with an injury. I don't remember
off the top of my head how long he's going
to be out, but he was going to be a
big part of this defense. He and Lugarious need outside corners,
locking guys down, physical leadership, all that stuff. Like a
big focal point of the defense was those two corners.
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And now it looks like he's going to miss some
time and the Titans are having to go back to
the well to figure out who's going to be that
other outside corner. Now, the logical first choice prior to
training camp starting probably would have been Trey Avery. He's
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an experienced guy in the NFL. Now, I think Tray
Avery's a really good athlete. I think what he has
struggled at at times is recognition and tracking, quite frankly,
And he's had a good summer from a lot of
people that have been out there watching OTA's mini camp
practices that sort of thing, he's had a good summer.
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He figures to be the guy that's next in line.
But then they post all these clips from training camp
online of these receivers making plays, and Trey Avery's on
the receiving end of a lot of them. So I'm
kind of curious as to where he's at right now
if he can fill that role. And then there's a
guy like Jarvis Brownlee Junior, the rookie fourth round pick
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out of Louisville, who I really liked. He was on
my Hidden Jim's List if you subscribe to Stacking the
Inbox in recip my coverage of the draft really loved him. Feisty,
scrappy cornerback. A lot of people miscast him as an
inside guy, only as Roger McCreery's backup. I don't think
that's the case. I think he can play outside. He's
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made some plays. He has put some really good clips
out there on Twitter this week, but a lot of
it is playing like the short intermediate underneath stuff, keeping
it in front of him where he can kind of
crash the throwing window. He really times his punch perfectly
to get that ball out there and prevent the receiver
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from catching it. He's been really sticky borderline holding on
a few of these plays, but hey, is what it is.
I've yet to see a rep somebody's posted where one
of these wide receivers has taken him deep. And that's
been the question with him, is his turn and run ability,
but so far so good Man Titans fans are waking
up to Jarvis Brownlee Junior this week, as they should.
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But how do you see And I didn't even talk
about a guy like Gabe Judy Lawley, who has been
kind of an underdog throughout the summer, former Tennessee volunteer,
undrafted guy. I liked him quite a bit, similar questions
to Brownlee, like the turn and run ability. I don't
know if it's there, but he's a feisty, scrappy guy.
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They have some options here in the absence of Cheeto.
Who do you see kind of as these these races
sort themselves out, who do you see being that guy
for the other cornerback spot.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah, I'm kind of with you on Brownley. I kind
of like the hype. I think give the rookie a
shot and go for it. Like I said, you know,
similar with the Hopkins thing. You're not looking to replace Cheeto,
but you're looking for a prime spot filler in the meanwhile,
I say, why not go with the rookie.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I'm with you, yeah, and I'll tell you what up
On Sobrosnetwork dot Com. I've got a quick little piece
about Jarvis Brownley Junior. If you guys want to go
dig up my evaluation on him from the Spring, watch
a couple clips that's up there on Sobrosnetwork dot com. Owen.
I also wrote a piece on Sobrosnetwork dot com this
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week just kind of tipping my cap to Malik Willis man.
I feel like this is a player that has really
gotten a lot of shit from this fan base, and
by all accounts like he's a really nice guy, really
good kid, the type of kid that you want to
see succeed but just hasn't been able to put it
all together. He goes out in Nissan Stadium and practice
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in front of what they said they sold sixteen thousand tickets.
I don't know if sixteen thousand people actually showed up,
but I.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Heard that it was at least ten thousand there.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Wow, that's so in front of ten thousand people, he
puts on a show. Sean McAvoy posted a series of
clips on Twitter showing the day that he had the
throws that he was making, and the thing that impressed
me was the antipation and the placement from Malik Willis,
which is not something that we had seen before. The
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important qualifier, of course, it's practice. You know, you're not
taking sax in practice. I get it, all that stuff,
but I at least approached this week saying, hey, let's
just say good for Malik Willis and let him have
a good practice. Let the people sing his praises for
a little bit, because he's put up with a lot
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from Titans fans. I'm happy for the guy for the week,
but I'm not gonna get carried away and say he
should be, you know, the backup over Mason Rudolph. I think,
at the very least, if he starts stacking practices like this,
maybe give him a couple reps with the twos and
see what he can do. But what do you make
of the week that Malik Willis has had, and what
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do you think it would mean for this franchise if
he were to start putting it all together?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah? Man, I'm happy he's doing good in practice. I
don't know if that's practically going to turn into anything. Yeah,
but I mean, I guess it's good for insurance purposes.
I don't see a reality where he ever replaces Mason
Rudolph at any point, you know, But yeah, I mean,
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why not give him shots with the twos. You know
that's the practice.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, I mean Brian Callahan said it was going to
be a competition. I don't think any of us believed
him it would actually be a competition, But you know,
I think it's I think it's an important potential camp
battle because we we just assume that will Levis is
going to rein in his physical, reckless style from a
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season ago. You know, I don't think anybody wants to
see him out there folding Jalen Ramsey in half on
every play that tends to lead to injury. But if
he doesn't, if he's not able to rein that in,
well then I think you're looking at the potential for
the quarter or for the backup quarterback to actually play
some in twenty twenty four. So in that context, how
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important do you think it is for this coaching staff
to really get to a point where Mason Rudolph or
Malik Willis has has just inevitably undeniably won that backup
quarterback job and they feel comfortable in whoever that is.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah, I mean, will Levis is not a proven commodity
by any means. Yeah, you know, we like what we
saw from him so far, and we think there's room
for him to grow. But yeah, by all means, the
backup is important. And that's why, you know, it was
nice to go see somebody like Rudolph gets signed. Yeah,
because he you know, didn't have an elite year with
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Pittsburgh by any means, but did get him at least
to the playoffs. Yeah, you know a guy that can
go out there and do it. And I just did
not feel comfortable having Malik Willis as the second screen
backup as your best option.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
But I'm with them. Go ahead, That's all I was
gonna say. I'm with you on that one. I think
Mason Rudolph probably played his best ball in twenty twenty three,
and I think the Titans, based on what they had
seen after the twenty twenty three season, you gotta go
kind of get an upgrade for form Malik Willis, that's all.
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That's all he's going to add to it.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah, No, one hundred, Uh, Malik Is just I don't know.
It was it was a good try. It was a
reach when we did it. I don't have personal animosity
against them, but no, I've just seen that that deer
in headlights look over and over again when it comes
time for Sundays.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
So we we get stuff, little nuggets coming out about
Tovandre Sweat being dominant across the defensive line and just
like blowing dudes up. And I'm curious how you process
this when I read on Twitter that to and Andre
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Sweat just completely blew up Lloyd cushion Berry on a play,
Because I think there are two ways to look at it. Man,
Sweat is as advertised, That's one, but then there's another
one that's like, oh shit, like, is Lloyd cushion Berry
not what they signed him to be. Now, I have
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been a longtime supporter of Devandre Sweat. I have gone
to bat for Devandre Sweat. He was the thirty sixth
ranked player overall on my big Board back in the spring.
This is exactly what I thought he could do, and
so far, so good. I tend to say, hey, I
tried to tell you guys about this Tovandre Sweat. Nobody
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acts surprised now, but I do. I would not have
expected that against a guy like Lloyd Cushionberry. So I
can understand why some people are saying, oh, well, you know,
maybe this isn't going to be a much improved offensive line.
How do you how do you process when you hear
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about these camp battles that are kind of one sided
and and and maybe one player is getting the better
of the other. Do you just kind of shrug it
off as camp battles or do you think there's something
more there for us to analyze.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I think, personally, uh, that the sweat disrespect has been
just you know, pretty out of range, out of control.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I'm with you. People.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
People see, you know, the weight issue and the character issues,
and they're already ready to write him off as a
bus yeah. Uh, which just you know it can't be
the case yet. There's no there's not a bust in
training camp first of all. But secondly, like you know,
the guy balled out in Texas like Big Yef was
excited to get him.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I think that people are just so ready to write
him off that anytime anything happens involving him, it couldn't
possibly be because he's doing good. It has to be
because the line's messing up.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah. That's that's an interesting way of looking at it. Yeah,
is is is the hate kind of clouding the judgment
some of these people that are just like, oh, Cushion
Berry's a bus the the line's not any better. I'm
with you, I think Sweat, I would say, confidently with
my chest, get used to seeing this, and it don't
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matter who's on the offensive line. That's that's how I
would say it. I'm I'm excited to see that he
is as advertised so far and the way I've framed
it this this offseason with the weight, the conditioning, all that,
you just want to see him checking checking boxes, all right.
You want to see him get to camp healthy. Check
that box. He's showing up in camp. You check that box. Now,
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Let's let's get to the preseason. Let's see if he
gets some reps in a game against an offensive line
that not his team, and let's see him do it.
Then if he does it, then you'll check that box.
And then we'll go into the season feeling pretty confident
about DeAndre Sweat. But I like him a lot, and
I think this is what you drafted him to be,
So don't flip it and be concerned about the offensive line,
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because this is you hope you see this a whole
lot more. But since we're talking about the offensive line,
it does sound like J. C. Latham is his advertised
frustrating Jeffrey Simmons and you know, getting into a fight
with him. That's I mean for me, like, that's the
shit I like to hear. I'm like, yes, that is
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our that's our dog. That's we need guys like that
on the offensive line. I'm stoked to hear about it.
I've heard Peter Skoronsky has bulked up. I've heard Peter
Skoronsky has looked pretty damn good. Lloyd Cushionberry to Andre
sweat reps aside been pretty good so far. But the
right side, man, it sounds like they're struggling, and it
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sounds like they have been Sadiq Charles Johnajukuu as the
first team. I've heard mixed things about a djuq Wu
and I'm a big proponent of a I'm sorry it's
a Juku. I keep forgetting the w Silent. I should
have never doubted the great Mike Keith. He's been saying
it right all along. John Ajuku, Johnnajuku's been inconsistent. I
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like the guy. I still think he's going to get
the job. But they've been working in. Jalen Duncan there,
Dylan Raiden's has been at right guard. Sadiq Charles at
right guard, Leroy Watson has been playing on the right side.
It really seems to me like that is going to
be the problem that that might keep this offensive line
from taking the next step in twenty twenty four. But
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from what I've heard, it sounds like they're kind of
willing to take their lumps to get the consistency from
that unit and j with Adjuku and Sadiq Charles. If
that's the case, do you think it's better for the
long term to build that chemistry or are you are
you a little concerned that news out of training camp
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has not been kind to that right side of the
offensive line. Uh.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I want to start with the things that I do
like about the line. I like hearing that late I
like hearing that Latham's working out. You know, that was
another pick that was immediately written off, you know, and
not just saying that this is you know, at point
proven and that he's going to be that guy. But
it's good to see the progress that you wanted to see. Yes,
I think that people often forget with Scarronsky, like his
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intestines were exploding last season, Like he went to the
hospital and got very, very sick. So even you know,
at whatever percentage he was fifty seventy percent, he still
is really good and I'm excited to see what a
healthy season, you know, is going to look like for him.
I think that you know, appendix thing was a rare
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one off, that kind of you know, it's one of
those things that just happens in life, but you don't
expect long term issues from it. So it's gonna be
good to see him back at full strength. But yeah,
as far as that right side go, it does look rough.
I mean, what can you do though, So you only
got one off season to try to fix issues where
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you can. The offensive line last year was abysmal, I mean,
one of the worst in the league. So the fact
that we have any kind of hope, you know, I
think is a step forward and that's all you can do,
you know, build a little bit of the time.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I'm I'm in line with the rumblings, man, like, if
you just know you weren't going to be able to
fix everything in one off season, which I've heard people
say all spring, all summer, you weren't going to be
able to fix everything in one off season. I get it.
So if you are gonna take your lumps on the
right side. I think Sadiq Charles is a pretty powerful guard.
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I think he has experience under Bill Callahan. I think
he's probably the logical choice to start there. I like Johnajuku.
I know I've been a bit of a homer because
I scouted him last summer and I said, Hey, the
Titans got a dog undrafted. This guy could turn into something.
So yes, I am invested for my own personal brand.
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I want to be right about Johnajuku, but I also
think that he fits Bill Callahan's system better than the
other options at right tackle. Right now. Jalen duncan super athlete,
but it sounds like the writing's on the wall. I mean,
just from what we're hearing, it doesn't really sound like
he's getting much run with the ones. NPF just came
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off the pup list. He'll be back in the fold.
He is probably the most athletically talented of these three tackles,
but I think there's an element of power missing from
his game that John Ajuku offers. And I think that's
a guy that has taken advantage of the reps in
OTA's mini camp and train and training camp so far,
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and I think you build that continuity and I think
if there's if there's upside there, you feel like there's
upside with that right side of your line, if you're
gonna run with Sadiq Charles, if you're gonna run with
John Ajuku, then I think you just you make that
decision and you stick with it so that this unit
can gel as five guys becoming one unit and you're
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not rotating. There's not a revolving door at tackle. I
think you go with that. I think that's the decision
to make. But NPF certainly the puzzle piece here that
complicates this because so many seem to think that he's
the most talented guy and that he's I'll shout out
our guy at the Hot Read podcast, j T Runkey,
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because he's been no matter how hard I try to
inflict Ojuku mania on JT, he maintains that NPF is
in the pole position for the right tackle job. We'll
see how it plays out, Owen, But as far as
NPF goes coming off of the injury, kind of working
back those reps that he didn't get that he lost
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to Janajukwu, how do you think he can impact this
race or or do you think it's just like too
far gone and he's missed too much time to get
back in it. At this point.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
You know, I try to think about, like pre suspension,
how he felt about him, and I feel like the
optimism was high. Yeah it was, you know, so maybe
you know, with some bounce back, you know, after that adversity,
maybe with some time to develop, we can get back
to that point. I think there's potential there.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
We'll see, We'll see how it goes. I think that
is still a situation worth monitoring. And now that he's
off the pup list, be curious to see, uh, see
how the practices are going. Let's shift gears and talk
about the defense before we get on out of here,
because I've been hyper critical of how the Titans addressed
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the linebacker position this spring. I hand on my chest. Admittedly,
I've watched some Kenneth Murray tape when he was with
the Chargers, and it didn't do it for me. I think,
you know, I would have been in the camp of
people that called him a bust just based off of
what I knew about him at Oklahoma. This was a
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guy that played with his hair on fire, and then
he goes to the Chargers and he doesn't really pan
out and everybody just thinks he's a bust. Well, I
started watching some of the Chargers tape and, like I
said on football and other f words this week, I
was preparing to do a film piece about Murray this week,
and I'm watching the Chargers tape and I'm just I'm like,
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I don't know what they were trying to do with
him and Brandon Staley, who is now not ahead coach
in the NFL anymore. I just wondered, like, what the
fuck was he thinking with Kenneth Murray. And now you're
starting to hear rumblings coming out of camp where Denard
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Wilson is high on this guy. He dropped a bar
this week. Everybody's saying, you know, y'all are asking me
about the green dot. We want Kenneth Murray to have
the green light. And I think that's going to be
a big component of this defense, is sort of streamlining
and simplifying the assignments of the linebackers, specifically Kenneth Murray
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and Jack Gibbons. But we're also hearing Kenneth Murray is
really growing into a leadership role as well, and that
other guys on the team are starting to look to
him as a leader. I think the word that I
can't remember if it was Denard Wilson or Brian Callahan.
One in a media availability said that Murray is being
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intentional in that role. And for me personally, I'm starting
to piece piece these things together, connecting the dots and
I'm like, uh, oh, I might be having to walk
back my uh my pessimism on the Kenneth Murray signing.
It sounds like he is is poised to prove a
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lot of people wrong that weren't a fan of this
signing to begin with. And hey, kudos to that guy.
As a Titans fan, I love it when guys prove
me wrong. But what's your level of optimism? Like with
Kenneth Murray as he continues to emerge in the leadership role,
do you think this is a guy that can solve
the linebacker problem for the Titans.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah, He's a name that's coming up again over and over.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
I like.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Denard loves bringing him up. It does seem like he's
kind of stepping up and stepping into a position to
do it at least.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, And it sounds like they recognize where his stre
are and they have said we want him to be
the heat seeking missile. We want him to see ball,
get ball, Like, don't stop and think about where you
need to be. Just be aggressive and with coaches that
can put you in position to do that. Theoretically, you know,
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putting it. The execution of this is still something we
haven't seen. But is if there's an understanding of that
and that's what they want him to do and he's
able to do what he does best, yeah, I can
kind of see how the other things start falling into
place where if he starts executing, he starts finding success.
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He's productive, that rubs off on guys. He feels confident.
When he's confident, he exudes that dog mentality that Denard
Wilson looks for. There's like a domino effect with this,
and it's just stems from just using him in the
right way and catering his assignments to his strength. So
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if you know, in theory, again we haven't seen them
play a down of football yet, but in theory, this
could lead to a resurgence for Kenneth Murray's career and
that would be fucking awesome for this defense elsewhere in
the linebacking corps. Oh and I'd have been like red
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pilled into Jack Gibbons, and he's taken a lot of
flak from this fan base since entering the league. But man,
there's something to be said for an undrafted guy scrapping
and clawing and hanging around and getting meaningful snaps in
game action. So I heard Brian Callahan on the OTP
(36:44):
with Mike Keith and Amy Wells recently when Mike Keith
asked him for a couple of names that kind of
stood out to him that maybe he wasn't expecting whenever
he took the head coaching job for the Titans, and
he named arden Key and then he named Jack Gibbons.
And he admitted that he didn't really know a whole
lot about Jack Gibbons when he took the job, but
his energy, his intelligence are things that have stood out
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to him so far that he wasn't necessarily expecting. And
then he mentioned that Jack Gibbons has an edge about
him and he's out there talking a little bit, and
that is not something that I think a lot of
Titans fans equated with with Doctor Gibby. So hearing guys
coaches constantly bring his name up, I'm like, Okay, I
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got to go back and watch some of this guy's
tape and figure out if we're missing something. And watching
several games of his I see it. I'm like, man,
I know why coaches love this guy. I mean, is
it is literally just a question of athletic ability. I
still think Doctor Gibby is not the guy you want
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turning and running with athletic tight ends. I think smart,
creative offensive coordinators are going to try and find ways
to play the matchup game and get guys on Doctor
Gibbie that the matchup favors the offense. I think that
is still a thing with him, and I don't know
how you improve that. I don't know how you improve
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the athleticism. Maybe this new coaching the training staff can
unlock something within him. But the things that the coaches say,
it's not bullshit. It's not just blowing smoke. He is
where he's supposed to be gap integrity, he's a sure tackler,
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he is has potential as a blitzer. He plays fast.
From a processing standpoint. For me, it is literally just
the turn and run ability. And I was surprised to
see how much Mike Rabel and Shane Bowen took him
off the field in nickel and dime packages. So it's
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almost like, well, you know what, he's not really in
situations where he's going to get it run by that often.
It's just that when he is, it is potentially catastrophic.
Like there was one play in the Browns game when
David and Joku just ran right by him. Deshaun Watson
didn't see him, of course, because Deshaun Watson is ass
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didn't see him, but if he had seen him, it
would have been like a forty yard touchdown ting Djoku.
And so you see stuff like that and you're like, oh, fuck,
Like we can't have him in positions like that. But again,
I go back to the Kenneth Murray conversation, and I say, well,
if the coaches put him in positions where he's not
counted on to do those things, maybe they'll be all
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right with Kenneth Murray and Jack Gibbons at linebacker. But
how do you feel about doctor Gibby And do you
think that Titans fans have written him off maybe a
little too soon?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah, I kind of feel like he has the stinking
stigma of being an old guard guy. Yeah, from the
Brable days, and you know, just because he was there,
doesn't mean he sucks.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
That was a that was a trial by combat roster. Yeah,
that was just kind of filling in holes where we
saw them. But you know, if they if they see
something in there that they could work with. I think
the kid Walker is a is a great comparison. Just
get the guy in where he could, you know, play
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to his strength. I think there's potential there.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah, we'll see how it goes. And I don't know,
maybe this is just cope. Maybe I'm just coping because
they didn't go sign Patrick Queen like I wanted him to.
But hey, I've been proven wrong before, I'll be proven
wrong again. We'll we'll have to see how that goes. Well,
that's all the notes that I have for today's show, Owen,
But I did want to ask you, is there anybody
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that we haven't talked about yet that you think has
stood out so far in training camp that maybe you
weren't expecting to Who are your your camp surprises if
we haven't already talked about him.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
You know, I don't know. I'm kind of kind of
stretching to figure out if I could think of anything,
but nothing really comes to mind that we hadn't address
what do you have?
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I'm going Kenneth Murray. I'm going Kenneth Murray because it is.
It hasn't shocked me that he's been good, because I
know he's a great athlete and you can go watch
the Oklahoma tape and see that. But it is, it
has really surprised me that he stepped up in a
leadership role and that he's starting to rub off on
other guys and it sounds like he's starting to build confidence.
(41:32):
And that's what's kind of made me take a step
back and say, oh, well, maybe they got something with
this dude after all.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
I like that too, because the media was harping so
heavy on the screen dot conversation over and over and over.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
So you know, if it does work out and you
feel the bullys, you know, perfect, they could shut up
for a little bit about the damn green dot.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Are you? Are you surprised that Cedric Gray, who we
kind of thought would be penciled in as one of
the starting linebackers, hired mid round draft pick out of
North Carolina. There's been nothing on him, and Paul Kaharsky
talked about him a little bit on the Paul Kaharski
podcast this week. The way he framed it was, It's
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probably gonna be a while before Cedric Gray's counted upon
to do anything like meaningful in this defense. I'm surprised
by that because he is a supremely talented guy, and
that's part of the conversation that leads me to like, well,
we just better be we better be okay with Kenneth
Murray and Jack Gibbons as the two inside linebackers. But
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I'm surprised to hear that Cedric Gray has had a
really uneventful camp borderline struggling. It sounds like from multiple
multiple people that I've talked to that have been at camp.
Are you surprised by that too?
Speaker 3 (42:54):
I don't know if I can say surprised just because
I didn't have that. HI have an expectation for him.
I know when we did there was a lot of
talk about it, but I can't say that I'm truly surprised.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
There you go, Well, when you got any any parting
thoughts for our listeners, our supporters.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Oh, that's just that's gonna do it for me. We're
so close to everybody, fellas, We're almost there, almost a
right around the corner. Just keep holding on.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yeah, yeah, Well got a shout out Memo's Mexican Kitchen
once more. Again, go on out there, get you a margarita.
We had some watermelon margarita's last week. Fantastic Katie out
there is making some otherworldly Gin and tonics. I think
I might be the only guy on the planet that
goes into the Mexican restaurant and is like, yeah, give
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me a gin and tonic. But hey, she hooks it
up every single time. Great menu. You won't find Mexican
food like this anywhere else in Nashville. I'm telling you,
I know a couple of you have already been out there.
We went last Friday night and Katie was like, hey,
we've had a few people come in and say they
watched the show, and that's such a cool thing. I
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want you guys to keep going out there and let
them know that Stony and the Sobros Network since you so.
Memo's Mexican Kitchen just about a mile north of I
forty off the Mount Juliet exit. It's worth the drive
out there, and if you go try him out, let
me know, let me know and let them know that
I sent you so Memos Mexican Kitchen dot com if
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Speaker 3 (44:53):
Always looking forward to Summer Slam. We'll see how it goes.
I'm not sure, but I'll I'll definitely have my eye
on it.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
You think Roman's coming back tomorrow night?
Speaker 3 (45:04):
God, we can only hope. I'm so stick a fucking
solo Sacoa.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
I'm with you, man, I'm with you, all right. Well
that's gonna do it for us. I've got a piece
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I just went last week last Friday night. I got
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beria that I don't even know what it is, the
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I think it's cilantro. I don't know. I should have
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is Cinderella Man one take Oh coming to us from
the Dad Zone Outspoken Owen read Owen, how you doing today?
My man?
Speaker 3 (02:36):
Hey, everybody, Hey Stony Hay Skype notification. Uh, I'm doing good.
We're getting closer and closer to football season. Uh, and
I'm feeling it.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Man, did you did you watch any of the Hall
of Fame game last night?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
I sure did. A lot of football happened. Not good football,
but football.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Is Colin Johnson the next Randy Ma. People are asking, I.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Mean, I don't know. I wouldn't go that far. I
saw a lot of guys out there that were trying
their bit. I don't know if there most of them
will make the team. The Texans looked really rough on
that third string defense, but yeah, I don't think that's
gonna matter much.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah it was. It felt like a true sicko moment
when I'm like into the third quarter and I'm looking
for players like maybe I've scouted in previous drafts, like
just trying to trying to watch the game and break
it down, like formations that are as vanilla as possible
that we're never gonna see in the regular season. And
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they're attempting fifty eight yard field goals in the Hall
of Fame game. I'm like, man, we are so back, baby,
We're so back. And then of course we got a
weather delay, and that's when I tuned out, So I
admit for as much of a sicko as our listeners
think I am when it comes to this stuff. I
did not watch the entire Hall of Fame game, but
I did have like a surreal moment sitting in mL
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rowse out in Mount Juliet last night where I was
just kind of like, oh shit, it's back, Like football
is here, man, and and I'm excited about it. I'm excited,
uh to talk training camp some of the news of
the week with you. But just before we start, man,
the general vibes like what are you How do you
feel about this team right now? Like a week indo
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training camp? Are you? Is the optimism still there? The
excitement level still there? What do you think about where
this team's at right now? Owen?
Speaker 3 (04:34):
You know that's a loaded questions, Tony. Uh, you know,
I still feel a general sense of optimism. I feel
like it's a better team than it was last year,
and that's all you can ask for. But I also
feel like there's some some cracks showing a little bit.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was an eventful week. I mean,
now we have DeAndre Hopkins as sideline for four to
six weeks. Arden Paul Kaharski reported he would be missing
six games due to suspension for got popped for Peeds.
It sounds like that might like there still hasn't been
an official announcement, so maybe they catch a break there.
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But debilitating blow to a pass rush unit that was
already pretty thin. And then the incident between Jeffrey Simmons
and Buck Rising he called him a pussy on Live
on one oh four or five to zone. Not a
good day, and from the reports that we heard, the
offense wasn't really looking that good against the defense. Maybe
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a frustrated Brian Callahan drops in a press conference this
week that the negative stuff around here tends to be overblown. Man,
it just didn't sound like a good day. But at
the same time, I think it's good for this team
to kind of face a little adversity. And the angle
I'm taking with it is up to this point it
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has by and large been all sunshine and rainbows. I
know there's some Tavandre Sweat haters out there that have
tried to make the conversation miserable, but I feel like
the reviews of Brian Callahan, Ran Carthon, will Levis, Calvin Ridley,
the free agent additions the draft class everything has been
met with glowing reviews so far. So maybe it's a
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good thing that this team had a couple bad days
this week, because now you start to get into that
territory where these scraps, these hiccups can build character and
you grow from it. What do you think of that angle, Owen?
How do you feel about how this team can respond
to adversity?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yeah, I mean, this is the time to make mistakes.
You'd rather figure them out in training camp in the
middle of the season. Yeah, So, I mean you're never
thrilled with mistakes and fall backs and all that kind
of stuff happening, but this is the time to do it.
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Well, let's talk about stepping up a little bit. But
because it's been a theme this week, there's there's been
some injuries, first and foremost, what do you what do
you think about the DeAndre Hopkins injury four to six
weeks sounds like it he might be available for Week one,
but it might go into the season. We might not
see him until week three. How how big of a
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blow is that to the receiving core for the Titans.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Yeah, I think we're at this point, like five and
a half weeks out from Week one, yeah. Uh so, yeah,
I mean, obviously that's a huge blow. That's uh, that's
your number two guy. Uh. You know you're obviously hoping
that the Dolphins comes full strength. You know, they're not super.
(07:45):
It didn't seem like they were super addressing it. Uh,
they did have the knee wrapped. Yeah, but it doesn't
look maajor by any means. So hopefully it's not, you know,
a long term issue that we deal with throughout the
season and once you in, I mean a good time
to hopefully get it out of the way.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
That's what I'm saying. Man Like, if we can get
this out of the way and get healthy and not
have to worry about it, that would be great. You
hope it's not one of those nagging situations where you
see it with players sometimes where like one thing starts,
you know, one knee starts acting up a little bit,
and then the other knee suffers because the player's favoring it, Like,
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just shut him down, Just shut him down for a
few weeks, let him get healthy, and then go into
the season at one hundred percent. I hope that's the case.
But guys are going to have to step up because
I mean, you mentioned it Hopkins, a valuable member of
this receiving corps, one of the key cogs in this
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passing game. He was the key cog in the passing
game last year. He has that chemistry already set with
Will Levis. Who are you looking at to emerge in
Hopkins' potential absence or at the very least, maybe this
is a better way of framing the question. Who do
you think can capitalize the most from getting more reps
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with the first team offense?
Speaker 3 (09:10):
Man, I feel like trailing Burks is really setting himself
up for success. They said he's put on like you know,
I don't know if it's twenty pounds of muscle, but
a lot of muscle. Just looking better looking, Sharper, you know,
he's in that. We've called it multiple times already that
the proven year. Yeah, and it seems like at this
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point he said out to prove it. So I think
that's gonna be who steps up.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
I'm with you, man, Like this is kind of it's
almost like a story book. It's almost poetic. How all
offseason that a lot of the talk has been about
how improved Traylon Burks has been. And I will say,
just from watching the camp clips, that everybody's shuffling around
this week. The nuance to his game is what has
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been most impressive, running comeback route, post corners, things where
you have to kind of use nuance to get open
a little bit, you know, shaking shaking the hips one
way and moving the other way to get the defensive
back to bite. I think that is an advanced, an
advanced characteristic of Treylon Burke's game that we haven't seen before.
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So in addition to that, you have this hype building. Well,
now all of a sudden there's an opening and it's
it's an opportunity, and now it's kind of put up
or shut up where we are going to see whether
or not we were we were right to buy into
this Burke's hype. As he you, you'd figure he's going
to be the guy that's gonna start getting reps in
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that Hopkins role. I don't know, though there is old
faithful out there still Owen. I'm gonna bring up a name.
I'm gonna bring up a name that has been somewhat
polarizing in the Titans fan base, Nick Westbrookakine. He's just
old reliable, old reliable out there. We've written him off
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year after year, and yet he keeps getting contracts with
this team, and he keeps showing up in the big moments,
and lo and behold. This week, there have been a
few reps come out where n WI is getting open,
reliable hands. This is a good guy that you want.
I've said it all along, like you want this guy
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as your fourth, fifth, sixth receiver, really good in that role.
We've seen him when called upon to be more. He's
been a little spotty, but by and large, I think
he's a good security blanket, a good safety valve type
of wide receiver. Do you give him any shot if
they call upon him to fill the the X role
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that Hopkins is filling.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
I mean, I share your sentiment. Maybe not to your
full extent. You're the biggest NWI fan I know, but
I think you said that he is a good utility receiver.
He's proved that, you know, throughout his time throughout his
time here. Yeah, I don't know if he's gonna be
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you know, And obviously you're not looking to replace Hopkins
at this point, But as far as the spot filler,
we need a guy to step up, don't I don't
see why not.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Yeah, I mean, I kind of wonder if Brian Callahan's
gonna go platoon mode with this and just give all
of these guys a few reps with the first team
just in case, instead of just giving it to one guy.
So it'll be interesting to kind of watch how the
wide receivers are deployed in practice while Hopkins is gone,
and then you hope that he's healthy for the start
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of the regular season and that you're not counting on
these guys to be something more than what they've been
so far, because I think that's part of the trouble
the Titans of the last couple of years have gotten into,
is that maybe they didn't address the wide receiver position
heavily enough, and then they got into the season, somebody
got hurt and they were counting on Nwi to be
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the guy, and it's just not an ideal spot. It's
not fair to put those expectations on him, and it's
not reliable to move the chains, so to speak. So
I'm kind of curious to see how the wide receiver
usage is going to pan out over the next several weeks.
The cornerback side of things is really interesting because Cheetoh
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a Woozie goes down with an injury. I don't remember
off the top of my head how long he's going
to be out, but he was going to be a
big part of this defense. He and Lugarious need outside corners,
locking guys down, physical leadership, all that stuff. Like a
big focal point of the defense was those two corners.
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And now it looks like he's going to miss some
time and the Titans are having to go back to
the well to figure out who's going to be that
other outside corner. Now, the logical first choice prior to
training camp starting probably would have been Trey Avery. He's
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an experienced guy in the NFL. Now, I think Tray
Avery's a really good athlete. I think what he has
struggled at at times is recognition and tracking, quite frankly,
And he's had a good summer from a lot of
people that have been out there watching OTA's mini camp
practices that sort of thing, he's had a good summer.
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He figures to be the guy that's next in line.
But then they post all these clips from training camp
online of these receivers making plays, and Trey Avery's on
the receiving end of a lot of them. So I'm
kind of curious as to where he's at right now
if he can fill that role. And then there's a
guy like Jarvis Brownlee Junior, the rookie fourth round pick
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out of Louisville, who I really liked. He was on
my Hidden Jim's List if you subscribe to Stacking the
Inbox in recip my coverage of the draft really loved him. Feisty,
scrappy cornerback. A lot of people miscast him as an
inside guy, only as Roger McCreery's backup. I don't think
that's the case. I think he can play outside. He's
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made some plays. He has put some really good clips
out there on Twitter this week, but a lot of
it is playing like the short intermediate underneath stuff, keeping
it in front of him where he can kind of
crash the throwing window. He really times his punch perfectly
to get that ball out there and prevent the receiver
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from catching it. He's been really sticky borderline holding on
a few of these plays, but hey, is what it is.
I've yet to see a rep somebody's posted where one
of these wide receivers has taken him deep. And that's
been the question with him, is his turn and run ability,
but so far so good Man Titans fans are waking
up to Jarvis Brownlee Junior this week, as they should.
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But how do you see And I didn't even talk
about a guy like Gabe Judy Lawley, who has been
kind of an underdog throughout the summer, former Tennessee volunteer,
undrafted guy. I liked him quite a bit, similar questions
to Brownlee, like the turn and run ability. I don't
know if it's there, but he's a feisty, scrappy guy.
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They have some options here in the absence of Cheeto.
Who do you see kind of as these these races
sort themselves out, who do you see being that guy
for the other cornerback spot.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
Yeah, I'm kind of with you on Brownley. I kind
of like the hype. I think give the rookie a
shot and go for it. Like I said, you know,
similar with the Hopkins thing. You're not looking to replace Cheeto,
but you're looking for a prime spot filler in the meanwhile,
I say, why not go with the rookie.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
I'm with you, yeah, and I'll tell you what up
On Sobrosnetwork dot Com. I've got a quick little piece
about Jarvis Brownley Junior. If you guys want to go
dig up my evaluation on him from the Spring, watch
a couple clips that's up there on Sobrosnetwork dot com. Owen.
I also wrote a piece on Sobrosnetwork dot com this
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week just kind of tipping my cap to Malik Willis man.
I feel like this is a player that has really
gotten a lot of shit from this fan base, and
by all accounts like he's a really nice guy, really
good kid, the type of kid that you want to
see succeed but just hasn't been able to put it
all together. He goes out in Nissan Stadium and practice
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in front of what they said they sold sixteen thousand tickets.
I don't know if sixteen thousand people actually showed up,
but I.
Speaker 3 (17:41):
Heard that it was at least ten thousand there.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Wow, that's so in front of ten thousand people, he
puts on a show. Sean McAvoy posted a series of
clips on Twitter showing the day that he had the
throws that he was making, and the thing that impressed
me was the antipation and the placement from Malik Willis,
which is not something that we had seen before. The
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important qualifier, of course, it's practice. You know, you're not
taking sax in practice. I get it, all that stuff,
but I at least approached this week saying, hey, let's
just say good for Malik Willis and let him have
a good practice. Let the people sing his praises for
a little bit, because he's put up with a lot
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from Titans fans. I'm happy for the guy for the week,
but I'm not gonna get carried away and say he
should be, you know, the backup over Mason Rudolph. I think,
at the very least, if he starts stacking practices like this,
maybe give him a couple reps with the twos and
see what he can do. But what do you make
of the week that Malik Willis has had, and what
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do you think it would mean for this franchise if
he were to start putting it all together?
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah? Man, I'm happy he's doing good in practice. I
don't know if that's practically going to turn into anything. Yeah,
but I mean, I guess it's good for insurance purposes.
I don't see a reality where he ever replaces Mason
Rudolph at any point, you know, But yeah, I mean,
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why not give him shots with the twos. You know
that's the practice.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
Yeah, I mean Brian Callahan said it was going to
be a competition. I don't think any of us believed
him it would actually be a competition, But you know,
I think it's I think it's an important potential camp
battle because we we just assume that will Levis is
going to rein in his physical, reckless style from a
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season ago. You know, I don't think anybody wants to
see him out there folding Jalen Ramsey in half on
every play that tends to lead to injury. But if
he doesn't, if he's not able to rein that in,
well then I think you're looking at the potential for
the quarter or for the backup quarterback to actually play
some in twenty twenty four. So in that context, how
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important do you think it is for this coaching staff
to really get to a point where Mason Rudolph or
Malik Willis has has just inevitably undeniably won that backup
quarterback job and they feel comfortable in whoever that is.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
Yeah, I mean, will Levis is not a proven commodity
by any means. Yeah, you know, we like what we
saw from him so far, and we think there's room
for him to grow. But yeah, by all means, the
backup is important. And that's why, you know, it was
nice to go see somebody like Rudolph gets signed. Yeah,
because he you know, didn't have an elite year with
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Pittsburgh by any means, but did get him at least
to the playoffs. Yeah, you know a guy that can
go out there and do it. And I just did
not feel comfortable having Malik Willis as the second screen
backup as your best option.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
But I'm with them. Go ahead, That's all I was
gonna say. I'm with you on that one. I think
Mason Rudolph probably played his best ball in twenty twenty three,
and I think the Titans, based on what they had
seen after the twenty twenty three season, you gotta go
kind of get an upgrade for form Malik Willis, that's all.
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That's all he's going to add to it.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
Yeah, No, one hundred, Uh, Malik Is just I don't know.
It was it was a good try. It was a
reach when we did it. I don't have personal animosity
against them, but no, I've just seen that that deer
in headlights look over and over again when it comes
time for Sundays.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
So we we get stuff, little nuggets coming out about
Tovandre Sweat being dominant across the defensive line and just
like blowing dudes up. And I'm curious how you process
this when I read on Twitter that to and Andre
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Sweat just completely blew up Lloyd cushion Berry on a play,
Because I think there are two ways to look at it. Man,
Sweat is as advertised, That's one, but then there's another
one that's like, oh shit, like, is Lloyd cushion Berry
not what they signed him to be. Now, I have
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been a longtime supporter of Devandre Sweat. I have gone
to bat for Devandre Sweat. He was the thirty sixth
ranked player overall on my big Board back in the spring.
This is exactly what I thought he could do, and
so far, so good. I tend to say, hey, I
tried to tell you guys about this Tovandre Sweat. Nobody
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acts surprised now, but I do. I would not have
expected that against a guy like Lloyd Cushionberry. So I
can understand why some people are saying, oh, well, you know,
maybe this isn't going to be a much improved offensive line.
How do you how do you process when you hear
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about these camp battles that are kind of one sided
and and and maybe one player is getting the better
of the other. Do you just kind of shrug it
off as camp battles or do you think there's something
more there for us to analyze.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
I think, personally, uh, that the sweat disrespect has been
just you know, pretty out of range, out of control.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
I'm with you. People.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
People see, you know, the weight issue and the character issues,
and they're already ready to write him off as a
bus yeah. Uh, which just you know it can't be
the case yet. There's no there's not a bust in
training camp first of all. But secondly, like you know,
the guy balled out in Texas like Big Yef was
excited to get him.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
I think that people are just so ready to write
him off that anytime anything happens involving him, it couldn't
possibly be because he's doing good. It has to be
because the line's messing up.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
Yeah. That's that's an interesting way of looking at it. Yeah,
is is is the hate kind of clouding the judgment
some of these people that are just like, oh, Cushion
Berry's a bus the the line's not any better. I'm
with you, I think Sweat, I would say, confidently with
my chest, get used to seeing this, and it don't
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matter who's on the offensive line. That's that's how I
would say it. I'm I'm excited to see that he
is as advertised so far and the way I've framed
it this this offseason with the weight, the conditioning, all that,
you just want to see him checking checking boxes, all right.
You want to see him get to camp healthy. Check
that box. He's showing up in camp. You check that box. Now,
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Let's let's get to the preseason. Let's see if he
gets some reps in a game against an offensive line
that not his team, and let's see him do it.
Then if he does it, then you'll check that box.
And then we'll go into the season feeling pretty confident
about DeAndre Sweat. But I like him a lot, and
I think this is what you drafted him to be,
So don't flip it and be concerned about the offensive line,
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because this is you hope you see this a whole
lot more. But since we're talking about the offensive line,
it does sound like J. C. Latham is his advertised
frustrating Jeffrey Simmons and you know, getting into a fight
with him. That's I mean for me, like, that's the
shit I like to hear. I'm like, yes, that is
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our that's our dog. That's we need guys like that
on the offensive line. I'm stoked to hear about it.
I've heard Peter Skoronsky has bulked up. I've heard Peter
Skoronsky has looked pretty damn good. Lloyd Cushionberry to Andre
sweat reps aside been pretty good so far. But the
right side, man, it sounds like they're struggling, and it
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sounds like they have been Sadiq Charles Johnajukuu as the
first team. I've heard mixed things about a djuq Wu
and I'm a big proponent of a I'm sorry it's
a Juku. I keep forgetting the w Silent. I should
have never doubted the great Mike Keith. He's been saying
it right all along. John Ajuku, Johnnajuku's been inconsistent. I
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like the guy. I still think he's going to get
the job. But they've been working in. Jalen Duncan there,
Dylan Raiden's has been at right guard. Sadiq Charles at
right guard, Leroy Watson has been playing on the right side.
It really seems to me like that is going to
be the problem that that might keep this offensive line
from taking the next step in twenty twenty four. But
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from what I've heard, it sounds like they're kind of
willing to take their lumps to get the consistency from
that unit and j with Adjuku and Sadiq Charles. If
that's the case, do you think it's better for the
long term to build that chemistry or are you are
you a little concerned that news out of training camp
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has not been kind to that right side of the
offensive line. Uh.
Speaker 3 (27:18):
I want to start with the things that I do
like about the line. I like hearing that late I
like hearing that Latham's working out. You know, that was
another pick that was immediately written off, you know, and
not just saying that this is you know, at point
proven and that he's going to be that guy. But
it's good to see the progress that you wanted to see. Yes,
I think that people often forget with Scarronsky, like his
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intestines were exploding last season, Like he went to the
hospital and got very, very sick. So even you know,
at whatever percentage he was fifty seventy percent, he still
is really good and I'm excited to see what a
healthy season, you know, is going to look like for him.
I think that you know, appendix thing was a rare
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one off, that kind of you know, it's one of
those things that just happens in life, but you don't
expect long term issues from it. So it's gonna be
good to see him back at full strength. But yeah,
as far as that right side go, it does look rough.
I mean, what can you do though, So you only
got one off season to try to fix issues where
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you can. The offensive line last year was abysmal, I mean,
one of the worst in the league. So the fact
that we have any kind of hope, you know, I
think is a step forward and that's all you can do,
you know, build a little bit of the time.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I'm I'm in line with the rumblings, man, like, if
you just know you weren't going to be able to
fix everything in one off season, which I've heard people
say all spring, all summer, you weren't going to be
able to fix everything in one off season. I get it.
So if you are gonna take your lumps on the
right side. I think Sadiq Charles is a pretty powerful guard.
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I think he has experience under Bill Callahan. I think
he's probably the logical choice to start there. I like Johnajuku.
I know I've been a bit of a homer because
I scouted him last summer and I said, Hey, the
Titans got a dog undrafted. This guy could turn into something.
So yes, I am invested for my own personal brand.
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I want to be right about Johnajuku, but I also
think that he fits Bill Callahan's system better than the
other options at right tackle. Right now. Jalen duncan super athlete,
but it sounds like the writing's on the wall. I mean,
just from what we're hearing, it doesn't really sound like
he's getting much run with the ones. NPF just came
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off the pup list. He'll be back in the fold.
He is probably the most athletically talented of these three tackles,
but I think there's an element of power missing from
his game that John Ajuku offers. And I think that's
a guy that has taken advantage of the reps in
OTA's mini camp and train and training camp so far,
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and I think you build that continuity and I think
if there's if there's upside there, you feel like there's
upside with that right side of your line, if you're
gonna run with Sadiq Charles, if you're gonna run with
John Ajuku, then I think you just you make that
decision and you stick with it so that this unit
can gel as five guys becoming one unit and you're
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not rotating. There's not a revolving door at tackle. I
think you go with that. I think that's the decision
to make. But NPF certainly the puzzle piece here that
complicates this because so many seem to think that he's
the most talented guy and that he's I'll shout out
our guy at the Hot Read podcast, j T Runkey,
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because he's been no matter how hard I try to
inflict Ojuku mania on JT, he maintains that NPF is
in the pole position for the right tackle job. We'll
see how it plays out, Owen, But as far as
NPF goes coming off of the injury, kind of working
back those reps that he didn't get that he lost
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to Janajukwu, how do you think he can impact this
race or or do you think it's just like too
far gone and he's missed too much time to get
back in it. At this point.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
You know, I try to think about, like pre suspension,
how he felt about him, and I feel like the
optimism was high. Yeah it was, you know, so maybe
you know, with some bounce back, you know, after that adversity,
maybe with some time to develop, we can get back
to that point. I think there's potential there.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
We'll see, We'll see how it goes. I think that
is still a situation worth monitoring. And now that he's
off the pup list, be curious to see, uh, see
how the practices are going. Let's shift gears and talk
about the defense before we get on out of here,
because I've been hyper critical of how the Titans addressed
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the linebacker position this spring. I hand on my chest. Admittedly,
I've watched some Kenneth Murray tape when he was with
the Chargers, and it didn't do it for me. I think,
you know, I would have been in the camp of
people that called him a bust just based off of
what I knew about him at Oklahoma. This was a
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guy that played with his hair on fire, and then
he goes to the Chargers and he doesn't really pan
out and everybody just thinks he's a bust. Well, I
started watching some of the Chargers tape and, like I
said on football and other f words this week, I
was preparing to do a film piece about Murray this week,
and I'm watching the Chargers tape and I'm just I'm like,
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I don't know what they were trying to do with
him and Brandon Staley, who is now not ahead coach
in the NFL anymore. I just wondered, like, what the
fuck was he thinking with Kenneth Murray. And now you're
starting to hear rumblings coming out of camp where Denard
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Wilson is high on this guy. He dropped a bar
this week. Everybody's saying, you know, y'all are asking me
about the green dot. We want Kenneth Murray to have
the green light. And I think that's going to be
a big component of this defense, is sort of streamlining
and simplifying the assignments of the linebackers, specifically Kenneth Murray
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and Jack Gibbons. But we're also hearing Kenneth Murray is
really growing into a leadership role as well, and that
other guys on the team are starting to look to
him as a leader. I think the word that I
can't remember if it was Denard Wilson or Brian Callahan.
One in a media availability said that Murray is being
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intentional in that role. And for me personally, I'm starting
to piece piece these things together, connecting the dots and
I'm like, uh, oh, I might be having to walk
back my uh my pessimism on the Kenneth Murray signing.
It sounds like he is is poised to prove a
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lot of people wrong that weren't a fan of this
signing to begin with. And hey, kudos to that guy.
As a Titans fan, I love it when guys prove
me wrong. But what's your level of optimism? Like with
Kenneth Murray as he continues to emerge in the leadership role,
do you think this is a guy that can solve
the linebacker problem for the Titans.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Yeah, He's a name that's coming up again over and over.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
I like.
Speaker 3 (34:48):
Denard loves bringing him up. It does seem like he's
kind of stepping up and stepping into a position to
do it at least.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, And it sounds like they recognize where his stre
are and they have said we want him to be
the heat seeking missile. We want him to see ball,
get ball, Like, don't stop and think about where you
need to be. Just be aggressive and with coaches that
can put you in position to do that. Theoretically, you know,
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putting it. The execution of this is still something we
haven't seen. But is if there's an understanding of that
and that's what they want him to do and he's
able to do what he does best, yeah, I can
kind of see how the other things start falling into
place where if he starts executing, he starts finding success.
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He's productive, that rubs off on guys. He feels confident.
When he's confident, he exudes that dog mentality that Denard
Wilson looks for. There's like a domino effect with this,
and it's just stems from just using him in the
right way and catering his assignments to his strength. So
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if you know, in theory, again we haven't seen them
play a down of football yet, but in theory, this
could lead to a resurgence for Kenneth Murray's career and
that would be fucking awesome for this defense elsewhere in
the linebacking corps. Oh and I'd have been like red
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pilled into Jack Gibbons, and he's taken a lot of
flak from this fan base since entering the league. But man,
there's something to be said for an undrafted guy scrapping
and clawing and hanging around and getting meaningful snaps in
game action. So I heard Brian Callahan on the OTP
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with Mike Keith and Amy Wells recently when Mike Keith
asked him for a couple of names that kind of
stood out to him that maybe he wasn't expecting whenever
he took the head coaching job for the Titans, and
he named arden Key and then he named Jack Gibbons.
And he admitted that he didn't really know a whole
lot about Jack Gibbons when he took the job, but
his energy, his intelligence are things that have stood out
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to him so far that he wasn't necessarily expecting. And
then he mentioned that Jack Gibbons has an edge about
him and he's out there talking a little bit, and
that is not something that I think a lot of
Titans fans equated with with Doctor Gibby. So hearing guys
coaches constantly bring his name up, I'm like, Okay, I
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got to go back and watch some of this guy's
tape and figure out if we're missing something. And watching
several games of his I see it. I'm like, man,
I know why coaches love this guy. I mean, is
it is literally just a question of athletic ability. I
still think Doctor Gibby is not the guy you want
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turning and running with athletic tight ends. I think smart,
creative offensive coordinators are going to try and find ways
to play the matchup game and get guys on Doctor
Gibbie that the matchup favors the offense. I think that
is still a thing with him, and I don't know
how you improve that. I don't know how you improve
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the athleticism. Maybe this new coaching the training staff can
unlock something within him. But the things that the coaches say,
it's not bullshit. It's not just blowing smoke. He is
where he's supposed to be gap integrity, he's a sure tackler,
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he is has potential as a blitzer. He plays fast.
From a processing standpoint. For me, it is literally just
the turn and run ability. And I was surprised to
see how much Mike Rabel and Shane Bowen took him
off the field in nickel and dime packages. So it's
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almost like, well, you know what, he's not really in
situations where he's going to get it run by that often.
It's just that when he is, it is potentially catastrophic.
Like there was one play in the Browns game when
David and Joku just ran right by him. Deshaun Watson
didn't see him, of course, because Deshaun Watson is ass
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didn't see him, but if he had seen him, it
would have been like a forty yard touchdown ting Djoku.
And so you see stuff like that and you're like, oh, fuck,
Like we can't have him in positions like that. But again,
I go back to the Kenneth Murray conversation, and I say, well,
if the coaches put him in positions where he's not
counted on to do those things, maybe they'll be all
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right with Kenneth Murray and Jack Gibbons at linebacker. But
how do you feel about doctor Gibby And do you
think that Titans fans have written him off maybe a
little too soon?
Speaker 3 (39:49):
Yeah, I kind of feel like he has the stinking
stigma of being an old guard guy. Yeah, from the
Brable days, and you know, just because he was there,
doesn't mean he sucks.
Speaker 2 (40:02):
You know.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
That was a that was a trial by combat roster. Yeah,
that was just kind of filling in holes where we
saw them. But you know, if they if they see
something in there that they could work with. I think
the kid Walker is a is a great comparison. Just
get the guy in where he could, you know, play
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to his strength. I think there's potential there.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah, we'll see how it goes. And I don't know,
maybe this is just cope. Maybe I'm just coping because
they didn't go sign Patrick Queen like I wanted him to.
But hey, I've been proven wrong before, I'll be proven
wrong again. We'll we'll have to see how that goes. Well,
that's all the notes that I have for today's show, Owen,
But I did want to ask you, is there anybody
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that we haven't talked about yet that you think has
stood out so far in training camp that maybe you
weren't expecting to Who are your your camp surprises if
we haven't already talked about him.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
You know, I don't know. I'm kind of kind of
stretching to figure out if I could think of anything,
but nothing really comes to mind that we hadn't address
what do you have?
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I'm going Kenneth Murray. I'm going Kenneth Murray because it is.
It hasn't shocked me that he's been good, because I
know he's a great athlete and you can go watch
the Oklahoma tape and see that. But it is, it
has really surprised me that he stepped up in a
leadership role and that he's starting to rub off on
other guys and it sounds like he's starting to build confidence.
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And that's what's kind of made me take a step
back and say, oh, well, maybe they got something with
this dude after all.
Speaker 3 (41:39):
I like that too, because the media was harping so
heavy on the screen dot conversation over and over and over.
Speaker 2 (41:46):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
So you know, if it does work out and you
feel the bullys, you know, perfect, they could shut up
for a little bit about the damn green dot.
Speaker 2 (41:55):
Are you? Are you surprised that Cedric Gray, who we
kind of thought would be penciled in as one of
the starting linebackers, hired mid round draft pick out of
North Carolina. There's been nothing on him, and Paul Kaharsky
talked about him a little bit on the Paul Kaharski
podcast this week. The way he framed it was, It's
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probably gonna be a while before Cedric Gray's counted upon
to do anything like meaningful in this defense. I'm surprised
by that because he is a supremely talented guy, and
that's part of the conversation that leads me to like, well,
we just better be we better be okay with Kenneth
Murray and Jack Gibbons as the two inside linebackers. But
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I'm surprised to hear that Cedric Gray has had a
really uneventful camp borderline struggling. It sounds like from multiple
multiple people that I've talked to that have been at camp.
Are you surprised by that too?
Speaker 3 (42:54):
I don't know if I can say surprised just because
I didn't have that. HI have an expectation for him.
I know when we did there was a lot of
talk about it, but I can't say that I'm truly surprised.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
There you go, Well, when you got any any parting
thoughts for our listeners, our supporters.
Speaker 3 (43:13):
Oh, that's just that's gonna do it for me. We're
so close to everybody, fellas, We're almost there, almost a
right around the corner. Just keep holding on.
Speaker 2 (43:21):
Yeah, yeah, Well got a shout out Memo's Mexican Kitchen
once more. Again, go on out there, get you a margarita.
We had some watermelon margarita's last week. Fantastic Katie out
there is making some otherworldly Gin and tonics. I think
I might be the only guy on the planet that
goes into the Mexican restaurant and is like, yeah, give
(43:43):
me a gin and tonic. But hey, she hooks it
up every single time. Great menu. You won't find Mexican
food like this anywhere else in Nashville. I'm telling you,
I know a couple of you have already been out there.
We went last Friday night and Katie was like, hey,
we've had a few people come in and say they
watched the show, and that's such a cool thing. I
(44:05):
want you guys to keep going out there and let
them know that Stony and the Sobros Network since you so.
Memo's Mexican Kitchen just about a mile north of I
forty off the Mount Juliet exit. It's worth the drive
out there, and if you go try him out, let
me know, let me know and let them know that
I sent you so Memos Mexican Kitchen dot com if
(44:27):
you want to check out the menu beforehand. He is
outspoken Owen Reid, and he's not on social media, but
I am at Stony Keeley and at Sobros Network all
of the work at Sobrosnetwork dot com. We got movie reviews,
titan stuff, all kinds of shit. There's a Summer Slam
drinking game up there. If you're a wrestling fan, want
to partake? That's a good question. Know when you're looking
(44:49):
forward to Summer Slam tomorrow night? You got a party
lined up.
Speaker 3 (44:53):
Always looking forward to Summer Slam. We'll see how it goes.
I'm not sure, but I'll I'll definitely have my eye
on it.
Speaker 2 (45:01):
You think Roman's coming back tomorrow night?
Speaker 3 (45:04):
God, we can only hope. I'm so stick a fucking
solo Sacoa.
Speaker 2 (45:12):
I'm with you, man, I'm with you, all right. Well
that's gonna do it for us. I've got a piece
on Stacking the Inbox about guys that we haven't talked
a lot about, but maybe we should. You're Trey Avery's,
You're Caleb Farley's that type of player that's up there
at Stackingtheinbox dot com. And of course rate, review and
subscribe to the Unofficial Titans Podcast, brought to you by
(45:34):
Memos Mexican Kitchen. Wherever you take in your shows, that's
how we get better and we always want to be
better for you guys. For outspoken Owen Reed, I am
big natural Stony Keeley and until next time, you stay
classy Titans fans
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