Episode 208: Spooky Summer Vacation in St Louis

We went back to St. Louis, Missouri this summer to visit some friends and do a bit of spooky exploring. It was the perfect summer vacation. We even did an Estes session in the St. Louis Haunted Mansion and got some pretty amazing results. Listen as we talk all about our latest adventure.

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Oh before, before we get intoit, I watched a so I put

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on in the background while I wasat work this week, a movie.
And I don't know if you've seenit recently or if you've seen it all
at all. I mean I'm sureyou have, Ntra, I'm sure you
have. Okay, it's a horrorcomedy. Okay, okay, comedy from
nineteen eighty five, and I'm gonnaI'm gonna give you like clues and you

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tell me if you know which oneit is. Stars Jeff Goldbloom and Ed
Begley Junior. Do you know whatI'm talking about? No, it's based
on the title of the movie isbased on a Glenn Miller's song in the
mood I don't know No settlemental JourneyTransylvania six five thousand. Oh that's Pennsylvania

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six five though exactly, yeah,exactly, that's where the title of it
came from and everything. And youknow, I watched that movie the first
time when I was a kid,and it was on like one of those
like Sunday afternoons. You never evenheard of it, You've never heard all.
I thought, I don't sure youwhatever. It's a horror comedy from
nineteen eighty five is I think it'slike a cult classic type thing. I
enjoy it. There's a lot ofpeople who don't like it. It's Jeff

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Goldbloom just being Jeff Goldbloom, andit's fan the only thing I could think
of him, and like old isthe Fly, Like I don't think I've
seen anything other than like he's inthe Earth Girls Are Easy too. I
haven't seen that either. Okay,well, I obviously Jurassic Park, Independence
Day, obvious, Fly Yeah,Apartments Apartments dot Com Yeah, the or

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Ragnarok Poor Ragnarok yep. So thatwas it, honestly. Maybe at some
point he's character to guy. Sothere's that. Oh and he would he
did a Friend's episode two. He'sbeen I mean, Jeff Goldman has been
in a lot of different things.He was also in the Best Hotel's oddly

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good Looking. I don't know what. Yeah, you know. And it's
funny because I feel like he's becomemore and more like like he's doing an
impression of himself at the joke,Like everything he does is like he lays
it on thick. I think,very thick, super thick. But some

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people like it thick. Nobody likesa thin, so I mean that's just
how it goes. Nobody nobody likeshit. It nice and thick, just
like this episode thick episode of Unrefined. For you, guys, thick and
girthy. What's wrong with me rightnow? Because you made me drink beer?

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Okay, those you are not awarewe are both drinking some delicious,
delicious, delicious Shiner beer. I'mdrinking the Shiner Bob, I have the
original. Yeah, you're drinking theoriginal, which we did not realize was
the thing until we visited the ShinerBrewery. Which anybody, if you're passing
through Shiner, Texas for anything onthe brewery tour, it is absolutely fantastic.

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I have no idea what anybody wouldbe Shiner, but you know you'll
pass through. You will pass throughShiner if you're on your way to the
haunted old Lavaca County Jail to godo an investigation. But I wonder where
that takes you. Obviously it musttake you somewhere else. Those are just
little just a road like see ninetytowns, you know. Yeah, Shiner's

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like nothing. There's nothing there exceptfor the brewery. Yeah. Palettsville literally
it's like the little town square.Yeah, massive amount of donuts shops for
such a small area. I don'tunderstand a lot that was so strange.
Yeah, you know, maybe notlike Duncan donuts, like Mama Pop donut
shops, which I like. Ilike that there's small things like that there.

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Yeah, it was nice to visitit. Like small towns, Like,
we'll have to get back to Hallettsvillesoon. We owe my son wants
to go. Literally, it's funnythat we're even talking about it, because
on the way to school today hewas talking about how he loves small towns,
and I said, well, Halottsvillewhere the jail is. They have
the courthouse in the center and literallylike it's like a square and the perimeter

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is all shops around the square andthere's like even a movie theater there.
It's so like nineteen fifties, likethey should film movies there because it looks
like it's frozen in time almost,you know. I thought that Devin Lias,
it's one of those that they didfilm a movie there at one point.
I can't remember did they. Icould be wrong on that, don't
quote me, but it's like exactlywhat you think a little small town should

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like, yeah, it was,or a TV series could be like this
is our make belief talent, likeit would be suff Yeah. So yeah,
he was like I want to go, and I'm like it's a cool
place. Maybe when we go dothis jail, we're not spending the night.
But I was like, maybe thekids can come with us. No,
that would be fun. That wouldbe fun. I mean, so

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we've been to quite a few placesnow as we've you know, hit over
two hundred episodes now on Unrefined,And you know, when we first started
out, we weren't going anywhere.Now we've we've started to venture out do
some exploring. We've done quite afew investigations and gotten a lot of that
under our belt now and it's reallyfun. But one place that we really

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enjoyed going to last year was SaintLouis, Missouri, and that's where we
met our friend Nicole, who ownsthe Saint Louis Haunted Mansion. That's where
we met her. Her. Idon't know the mind behind everything that goes
on at the Saint Louisan and mansion. Eli yes, all the planning and

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executing and everything, and she justdoes a wonderful job with all of their
events. If you're not following themansion's page over on social media, make
sure you do so because you cankeep up with all of the different events
that they have going on there,and it's a lot now. They do
night markets, they do psychic fares, they do all kinds of things at

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the mansion. It's not just theplace to go and investigate, but you
can also go and do a paranormalinvestigation there as well. They're just regular
ghost hunts at this point too,So sat I think it's fun if you
go to like the nightfares or thepsychic fairs because you get to go in
the building. Yeah, check itout, see all the vendors. The
psychic fair is like different card readers, psychic mediums that you can go and

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they also have their selling you know, some incense and crystals things like that.
Yeah, and it's a lot offun. Yeah, they are a
lot of fun and they're really coolevents. So if you are listening and
you happen to be in the SaintLouis area and you're not aware of those,
you can definitely go check those out. It's really really cool and make
sure you market down on your calendar. November fourth, Okay, November fourth,
we are going to be back inSaint Louis at Saint Louis Haunted Mansion

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and we are going to be hostinga ghost tour there, so we have
details coming soon for that, butit is happening November fourth. You'd be
able to go with us and investigatefor a few hours the Saint Louis Haunted
Mansion, and it's a fun placeto investigate. And that's actually what we
are here to talk about tonight,because we just went back to Saint Louis

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over the summer. We were onour little break. We went on our
little summer break and we took ayeah, summer vacation of Saint Louis,
Missouri. We brought my kids becauseit's their summer break too, and I
wanted to kind of show them whatthe whole paranormal investigation thing is. I
had talked about the mansion. YEwanted to show them what that was and

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let them get a little taste ofit. You are hoping to freak him
out a little bit. I thinkit is they weren't freaked out enough.
I feel like my youngest son,who's they're both teenagers and they're in high
school, he was a little bit. I think he was a little bit
nervous when we did the spirit boxsession because he went under for it because

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he wanted to do it. AndI think when he went under, I
could see I was watching the recordingthe other day, he was very tense.
He was very tense. Through thewhole thing. He only did it
for like, he only did itfor like three minutes maybe at the most.
I mean when I first did ittoo, I was I was also
tense. I've kind of loosened upa little bit, but there are times
when we're going to do it whereit's like, I don't know where you

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can feel that things are a littlebit heavy and tense, like energy wise
and everything like that, where it'sstill a little bit nerve racking to go
under and do that kind of thing. But I wanted to talk about the
Haunting Mansion like a little bit ofbackstory. I know we already talked about
it again, but just to likerefresh. Yeah, everybody. Yeah,
So the building that stands there today, I believe it was built in nineteen

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twenty, so that's what it sayson like the records. But I know
Nicole told us something about there beinga corner saloon there and like the mid
eighteen hundreds, so I don't knowif it was a separate building that was
there or if this building got incorporatedinto that one. I don't know,
but the building is listed nineteen twenty, so so okay, okay, that's

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all I know. And that's justgoing off the records, and I don't
even know if sometimes these records likeit was from the real estate, like
basically when it was up for sale, it was listed as nineteen twenty,
which I don't know how accurate thosethings are, but that's all I could
find. Yeah, there was ahouse that was attached to the building at
one point that like shares a wallI think in the basement or something,

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and or the base part of thebasement where the house is is still there
and you can walk in. Ithink that's what it is, because it's
that separate door. I think,Oh, okay, could be wrong,
right, I think sure? Isit where all of those big the big
fans and stuff are now because they'vegot a c in the building? Is
that where that is that where you'retalking? Well, you know, there's
the main area, but then itjust extends through a room. And I

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don't know if that's what it was. But remember when she's like knocking on
her greenhouses and all of her plantsgrowing on the other side though, Yeah,
yeah, anyways, anyway, Okay, continue on. Whatever it is,
there used to be a house attachedto there. It may or may
not have been a brothel. Wereally don't know. The restaurant in the

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nineteen twenties, possibly involving bootlegging duringprohibition. It has ties to the mafia.
The stairs leading down to the basementfrom like the main area, there's
like a bullet hole in the brickwall, so just going down, let
somebody shot it up. Yeah,possibly the basement may have been where a
lot of this bootlegging and like maybemafia activities took place, right, Yeah,

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And there's definitely some weirdness down there. We didn't experience any activity down
to the basement this time while wewere there, but last November in twenty
twenty two, we did. AndI believe there really is like a male
presence down there. And I knowlast time I saw a shadow figure.
Other people have also saw a shadowfigure pulled down there. Yeah, she

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got her hair pulled, and theowner, Nicole, like she told a
story about what happened there recently.So she had a girl's night at the
Haunted mansion, like, hey,let's spend the night, let's do some
girly things. Why not, right, So they went to the basement to
play bloody Marry with this old antiqueHaunted mirror that she had now this.

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Yeah, so this mirror, shehas it in the entryway of the Haunted
mansion. So if you go therefor the psychic fair or the night market,
you will one hundred percent. Themirror was given to her for free.
And I can't remember if it wasa family member they gave it to
her or a friend of something,but I was given to her for free.
And because the person that gave itto her said it was scaring their

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grandkids, and the grandkids kept sayingthey couldn't sleep because the lady in the
mirror watches them. So naturally Nicolesaid, yes, I'll take it.
And it's a pre it's it's precivil war. This mirror is a pre
war mirror, like silver backing.Yeah, like it's like a heavy duty
antique gear. It's serious stuff,guys. And it is like, I

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mean, it is heavy. Thatis a year. So she takes it
downstairs in the basement and they're notonly going to play bloody mirror, but
they're also doing kind of like whatis it called a scrying thing where they're
like looking and trying to see intoanother dimension or whatever. Yeah, we're
trying to look into the mirror andsee what they and so they were doing

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that, and they were seeing likea lot of shadows and activities and stuff
behind them. Yeah, which isso creepy. I don't think I could
stand to do that as a basementbecause basement is creepy. So they're seeing
all kinds of weird shadows and everything. Her phone was low on batteries,
so she goes upstairs gets her charger. Right, this is just a few
minutes to go upstairs, get thecharger, come back down to the basement.

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When she comes back down, thirtyminutes had passed. Like she lost
time. Like everybody I believe losttime. They can't explain how thirty minutes
went by. Yeah, and it'sjust unexplained. I'm like, that's really
weird. So it might have somethingto do with what they were doing in
the mirror. I don't know.She's also acquired two other items at the

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mansion that may have attachments. Shehas a turn of the century cane back
wooden wheelchair from Indiana State Mental Asylum. Yeah, she said. Three days
after receiving the chair, she hasit in the building. She walks in.
Everything is unplugged, like everything allthe electricity is just out the acas

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unplugged, the lamps are unplugged ineverything, and she can't explain it.
And then she finds a giant deadrat. Oh god, no, a
me a picture of that rat?Did huge? Yeah, I said,
yeah, I sent it to you. I showed it to you. It
was nasty, I don't remember.She was like, there was no evidence
of there being any like anything inin that, like no animals or critters

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or anything like that. So firstof just appear there dead was super with
everything unplugged, which is really weird. So she doesn't know if it has
anything to do with the wheelchair beingthere or if it was just a coincidence
something else, did it The wheelchairjust happened to be there. Yeah?
Yeah, Also she has a steamertrunk now and she said sounds are coming

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from inside the trunk and they don'tknow anything about the trunk. You know,
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you so we're there. We didthe tour and everything with the kids and
get a taste of what all thisstuff is. We did a spirit Box
session. Yes, and this wasa live that we both did on Instagram
and TikTok at the same time.So the actual you can see the whole

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thing unedited on Instagram. You haveto kind of scroll down to go because
it was in June or July.It was in July July. Yeah,
you gotta go all the ways downto see it. So if you go
to if you go too far inthe description and click on our Instagram page,
you'll be able to go and scrollthrough and you'll be able to find
that video. And I directly tothe video and the description of this to

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make it so, we were blindfoldedand we had the noise canceling headphones on.
I went under first and BJ wasasking the questions and everything, and
the very first thing I said ishigh and mommy. So it was very

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interesting because when my son did it, Now, both my kids did it,
but they were not on the livebecause I don't put my kids on
social media or anything. Yeah,I do have recordings of them, but
I won't be posts yet. Buthe also said mama, which was interesting.
So what's interesting about us both sayingmommy and mama. No. The
next day we go to the mansionand they're doing the psychic fair there and

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we get introduced to a psychic mediumnamed Cookie and we're all over there near
the steamer trunk and he points tothe steamer trunk and he said, a
little girl is attached to that trunk. And I was like, oh my
gosh, that is so weird becauseI got mommy, like somebody was saying
mommy, and he got mama.And I don't know if that was the
little girl coming through or not.I'm I don't know, but it was

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weird that we would both get that. Yeah, So some interesting things that
came from everybody's session. I'm justgonna like run through them or them.
BJ asked for name and I saidLeo. I also mentioned Nicole's name,
which was very interesting. And thenlike, without going into like any kind

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of detail about personal lives, Ifeel like that there was some kind of
spiritual guidance going on during my session, but it was it's like, this
is like a hindsight thing because wedidn't know it at the time. Me
going back and listening to it theother day and knowing things that literally have

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just recent happened was like, Icannot believe this this was literally it happened
our future. I don't like,I don't know if it was predicting.
It was literally I think telling usto like that what I was saying was
opportunity and offer. Yeah, andthen I said the number three over and

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over and over again, and thenumber three is significance as a spirit guide
giving you, you know, likethey're with you. You need to go
for whatever you're doing. You know, it's positive energy. And it was
really really weird that I would besaying the number three over and over again
as well as saying opportunity, offerand the other stuff that was going on.

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So it was really and when yousent that really weird earlier, I
was like, what is going onhere? Like and I don't know,
and like sometimes I sent him aclip of it and I didn't give him
any info. I said, whatis I said, here's this, I'm
not going to say anything. Yeah, said came to the exact same conclusion
on as I did. I waslike, it's really weird, Like I
said, I don't want to talkabout like our personal life stuff, but

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it was just like really really interesting. And then it makes me wonder about
spar boxes and the information we get. Is the information we're getting sometimes not
relevant to like who's haunting or thisthe actual place. Is the message sometimes
for us is could a spirit guidebe coming through? I mean, I

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don't even know anything about spirit guysor quote unquote guardian angels or just somebody
we know who has passed, whohas some kind of knowledge who's telling us,
Hey, you're going to have thisopportunity to offer take up And it's
kind of like you need to actupon this, you need to don't pass
up the opportunity. Like, Imean, that's the message that I was
getting out of it in the waythat it could convene us on the spirit

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box, which is incredible if it'strue. Like it was really weird,
crazy, And I just wonder ifanyone else had thought about that or experienced
that on a spirit box session thinkingthe message was actually for them and not
necessarily related to the haunting. Yeah, it was just very interesting. But

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at the same time, I'm alsolike, Okay, well, we didn't
know that at the time. Weonly know that in hindsight are we trying
to put something together? And alsoif they were the spirit guide or whoever
whatever is trying to tell us somethingdid it give and get through because we
didn't know. Do you know whatI mean? Or is it just something
that gets pushed in your subconscious youknow what I mean? Because I don't

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know. I don't know how thingswork on the other side. Sometimes,
you know, it's funny when likewhen you hear people describing things that you
get either from a spirit box oreven like with an EVP, when you
hear a noise or something like that, Like it's like, do you want
is that what I heard? Oris it what my brain is? Is
it brain wants to hear? AndI'm kind of putting it then at the

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same time. So if it iswhat your brain wants you to hear,
then is that the message then becausethat's sposed to hear. Yeah, yeah,
it's a good thing. I don'tknow who knows. So I during
that session, like I felt likesomebody kept walking or like putting their hand
in front of my face. Itwas almost like movement was going back and

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forth in front of my face,just like waving or coming up or a
face was close to my face justlooking back and fourth, and it was
just like I literally almost felt likeI could see something moving back and forth
and it was weird. I almosthad a sensation to like lift the little
eyemask up to see who was there, because I felt like I was going
to see like my kid trying tomess with me or something. You know.

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Yeah, I don't think we wouldhave done that out of like we
were doing that as like a liveYeah, it was alive, so obviously
he's not doing that. Yeah.So and that's how I came out of
the session. I like ripped mymask out because I literally couldn't take it
anymore. I was like it wasbothering me and distracting me so bad.
Yeah that I just had to,like, I just like suddenly just ripped
it off. I was like,tell me, somebody's in my face.

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When you do the when you doan s method, if you've never done
or it is, it's it's sodifferent from anything else. You're like totally
just immersed. But you know,it's funny about I don't know, did
we mentioned we were in the mainlike parlor ballroom area of it was haunted
mansion and everything, and that roomrecently, Nicole said, had been getting
a lot of activity and a lotof different paranormal things that had happened there.

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Because most people will go right tothe basement and we know that there's
stuff down there. And I feltlike last time, that's where we recorded
our live episode, and we didn'treally have a lot going on there.
You know, there wasn't a wholelot of stuff happening. Yeah, this
time though, you know, whoknows spirits move around, right, So
it's pretty who knows because they're doingpsychic fairs there. Maybe they've called some

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things over there. Who knows thatsomebody was doing ruins and other things up
in the upstairs that was upstairs.Who knows somebody did some witchy writing and
they said they trapped the guy upstairs. Yeah, she has no idea what
they're talking about. They're like,oh, okay, so there's somebody trapped
upstairs now, right. So nextup was bj spirit session, also on

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the live that you can watch,ye, and his was really weird.
I felt like you were Yours waslike so much more aggressive. Yeah,
I mean you put on the headphonesand unprompted, nobody said anything to him
right away. He says, don'tdo anything. They're outside, Yeah,
And I asked who's outside and yousay thieves And then there's a pause and

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you say another and then you likejumped, like something touched you, and
you're like, you know, likeyou just jumped when that something touched my
shoulder and my shoulder my back likearea, like I felt that happen.
So it was pretty intense. Itwas pretty intense. So when that happened,
Nicole goes she goes upstairs so thatshe can get a view out of

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the windows. Now there are windowsdownstairs, but you can't look out at
them. They're like the special kindof glass. You can't really whatever.
Yeah, there's just a blur.So she goes upstairs so she can look
out the window. Yeah, andshe sees people hanging out in the alley
right over there. There's just Idon't know, maybe they were up to
no good. Who knows thes like, hey, by the way, there's
these people out there. People awayfrom there before. So yeah, So

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as she's coming back down on thestairs, he j says, she's here.
Yeah, And so I asked whowho I was talking to and immediately
says Charlie, which we hadn't knownthat name before. And then you say,
can we stop shut the fuck up? Beat it? And at this

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point, like when you start talkingafter this point, I am convinced that
you are no longer communicating with usand what we're saying, and that it's
two different spirits communicating with each other, like it's a conversation from the past.
It's like are recording and we're hearingthese two people speaking, and it's

(29:40):
no longer relative to anything I'm sayinganymore. It's a back and forth.
And it was really weird. Ye, Like I said, it was a
mob hangout, and I feel likeit was like some kind of fight or
something something bad that resultsed in someonedying or something. Yeah, we don't
know, Like that's a thing aboutthat place. There's a lot of mysteries

(30:02):
surrounding it. So you said somethinginteresting. You said, I can smell
you, you can't see me,which was really really maybe it was the
ghost scene of though, honestly,like yeah, And then the next thing
you said was we know one ofyou, which I think you're referring to
Nicole at that point. Okay,we know one of you, which they

(30:25):
would be very familiar with her.And then the last thing BJ says is
I don't know if you're going toheaven or not. And then there's a
pause and he goes rage and thenhe just like ripped off the headphones because
you felt like some coldness all overlike moved. My whole body got cold,
and I didn't like the feeling.And I think that's when you feeling

(30:45):
like that, because, like Isaid, like it's you're totally immersed.
If you are feeling weird, likepull yourself out of it. Don't stay
under for too long, you knowwhat I mean. It can be crazy,
and I feel like I feel likewhen you said I don't know if
you're going to go to heaven ornot. I don't think it was directed
towards anybody in the room. Ithink it was literally one guy talking to
the other, like, like Isaid, a replay of something in history,

(31:08):
like the right before someone got beatup, shot or something, and
they're having a conversation. He's like, well, I don't know if you're
going to have it or not,but I'm going to send you there right
now. When Silvio, Tony andPAULI were executing Big Pussy on the boat,
look, it felt like an execution. It really did. It was
literally like a confrontation between two peoplethat did not go well. I feel

(31:33):
like a lot of the time inthe mob too. You're when you're doing
an execution like that, it's probablysomebody that you know, and yeah,
they're paying the price exactly. Sothe next step we did was my son's
session, my younger son. Yeah, like I said, both my sons
are and we didn't put on socialmedia or anything. Yeah, we don't
put that on social media. Soman, first he said basement so many

(31:56):
times it was crazy. I shouldhave counted and how many times he said
basement and it was maybe like atthe most five minutes his session. So
he also said down below fire story. Yeah, so like, whoever is
coming through really wanted to know that, hey, something happened in the basement.
So we kept asking, like what'sthe story, and he would just

(32:17):
say basement. And then you askedagain, what's the story you want to
tell about the basement, and hesays pillow soup, And then my son
says fire and DJ asks tell usabout the fire, and my son said,
I can't face it anymore. Sohere's the interesting thing. One of
the rooms upstairs had a fire init and they think it was intentionally set

(32:42):
because it burned really hot and fast, and it I guess I don't know,
like it looks kind of like therewas a body there. It was
very strange, the like burn likeis starts one place and like the fire
started on a trail. Yeah,in a big burst right there, Like

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that's what it looks like. It'sit's it's intense. It's really weird,
like and this building has been abandonedfor a very long time, and I
think one of the so there's norecord of this fire, and there's no
record of anyone dying in this fire. That didn't exist, you know,
there's no death associated with it.There's no record of fire. But clearly
you can see the scorch marks.It's clearly a fire. So it's really

(33:28):
weird. And they thought maybe itwas a homeless person and like nobody,
you know, nobody cared or whatever, you know. So what's interesting is
that I feel like, whatever happenedthat person, I don't know why.
I think this that person started thefire and that somebody was killed and they

(33:50):
know it. And I think theywere in the basement. They were sleeping
in the basement because it was abandoned, and like almost people were there.
There's drug paraphernalia in the dummy waiterclearly people had been there, you know.
I feel like that's why he saidwhen you said tell us the story
about the basement, you said pillowsuit like sleeping, eating, you're living
there, right. Yeah. No, that's kind of the conclusion that I

(34:14):
kind of came up with. SoI mean, I mean, maybe I'm
stretching, and I probably is.So my other son goes under and immediately
he says, lift the weight down. And at the time, we were
like, my son lifts weights.He's my older son, and we were
like, well, maybe he's talkingabout like maybe it's specific to him,
and like there's a one of thespirits that are downstairs. They know,

(34:37):
Big Joe, who was a wrestler, and Nicole even said he has the
same built as my son. Yeah, so we were thinking maybe he was
just connecting with Big Joe. Theyboth like have you know the muscular Maybe
that is. But after hearing andputting together with my younger son, I
kind of made up a little storyin my head did and it's probably correct.

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So yeah. So the other thingthat my son said when he was
there, he said needle, yeah, and that like, like I said,
there was drug paraphernalia in the dummywaiter and then he says, you'll
get your chance. Yeah, AndI was thinking about it, and I
was like, what if that's whatit was? Somebody who was downstairs lift

(35:23):
the weight. I was thinking,the dummy waiter, like you left to
lift it up and down, youknow, to go up up and down.
And I think it's Bipullian weights andall that. And I don't know
if that's what he was referring to. So if somebody was down there,
they're living there, they're doing drugs, you know, and did something happen
they set somebody else on fire forwhatever reason, maybe just didn't want anyone

(35:45):
else living there. Maybe they're justdid drugs, but they feel some kind
of guilty conscious about it. Becausehe would not stop saying basement, like
he would not get over it.He said it down there basement fire story.
You know, there's no fire evidenceof something happening in the basement.
I feel like he was talking aboutsomething else, like the fire upstairs.

(36:07):
You know. What it reminds meof two is like when you see addicts
and they're like living the way thatthey're living and anything can result in like
a fight, like you know,you don't get the last bump or whatever
it is, right, yeah,ever right, it could have been something
drug related. Reminds me of thatepisode of Breaking Bad with the little kid
that Jesse rescues and his two parentsthat are the junkies, and because the

(36:28):
guy is going in and in onthe woman and she finally just like lets
an atm fall on his head andkills him. And she doesn't think anything
of it, you know, likeit's it's wild, it's insane, and
that's be a situation. You know. That's my little story I made up
in my head. It makes senseto me. I don't know, but
there is a there's a lot ofmystery surrounding the Saint Louis Hana Mansion.

(36:52):
There's a lot that we don't knowwith the history. We have stories,
we have things that other paranormal teamsand invest gators have found. Yeah,
but it's not it's not solid.This is not sound. So it is.
That's why we keep going in thereand doing these things and asking these
questions. You know, we've identifiedat least a couple of spirits that are

(37:13):
in there. It's been consistent.So that's why we keep going back,
and that's why we're going back andagain in November, and if you want
to join us, just keep onlooking for that link and you can come
and hang out with us at theSaint Louisan and mansion. That the room
that was set on fire, thatwas the only they had. There's like
some little closet and in that closetthe cat ball went off and that was
the only time in the mansion thatthe cat ball went off. I think

(37:36):
it went off twice in there.Yeah, it did go off twice in
there. It move was creepy becauseit was pitch black. We were all
dark in there, and when itwas scared the crap out of everybody.
It didn't just light. It litup and rolled like something rolled it and
we put it down and we jumpedall around that we did. I was
like, let me test it.Yeah, So yeah, definitely creepy.
The whole place has got a lotof paranormal If you've not visit did it,

(38:00):
You got to check it out.It's why we went back. One
of the reasons we went back toSt. Louis this summer was to check
that out. So come see usin Novembers. In November, guys,
we'll keep you updated with the linksand everything, so you can come on
ghost hunt with us. Another placewe visited after we did the St.
Louis Haunted Mansion, we went tothe Campbell House. Yeah. So the

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Campbell House Museum in Saint Louis isfirst off, it's a really awesome house,
and I'll say right now, itis haunted, but they are not
into doing the haunted stuff. They'renot. They just like literally, I
think the day that we were therethat we did the tour of the house,
and this was just the basic museumguided tour, was the first night

(38:43):
that they were going to do aghost story tour haunt and I don't know
what that entailed, but that wasgoing to be the first time they did
it. Yeah, so, andI'll just do a little story on the
house and I, like I said, I don't know anything about it because
it's all new, and I don'tthey don't have a lot of research on
the paranormal in this house, sothere's not a lot. But I'm just

(39:04):
going to go in the history ofthe house. And if you're in Saint
Louis to do the Haunted Mansion,you should look to see if they're also
doing the Campbell Ghost tour thing too, because that would be really awesome.
Yea. So the house was builtin eighteen fifty one by Robert Campbell.
He was married to Virginia Campbell.He was a successful fur trader and entrepreneur.

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Yeah, the house was owned andoccupied by the family until nineteen thirty
eight and then it was basically givenover and made into this museum. One
very interesting thing, like when yougo to most of these houses that are
like museum houses, the pieces aren'toriginal to the house. They've collected them

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and brought them in and they're justexamples of this is what would have been
in this house. But this house, most of the things in there,
the furnishing, the paintings, thesilverware, the plates, they are original
to the house. These are thethings that these people actually used and lived
in, which is crazy that theyhave so much of the stuff still.

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The wedding dresses, like the yeah, all those that they have, like
it's and there's pictures. Yeah,they have pictures from the eighteen hundreds of
what it looked like and literally it'sthe same. Like the entryway they have
a picture and there's like this likestatue of a dog down below there's this
chandelier, there's all these things.It's exactly the same, the wallpaper,

(40:30):
everything exactly the same. So it'sinsane. One really cool thing was so
Robert Campbell. There's this huge paintingof Robert Campbell in the house and he's
sitting there at his desk and he'sholding a pen and he has a ring
on, and they have the actualpen and ring in like a display case,
like they have all that stuff,which is really weird to see it
in this eighteen hundreds painting. They'relike, and by the way, this

(40:51):
is the actual thing right here,and you're like, what I know,
there's it's it's a wonderful like historicmuseum. And it's really cool that they
have now started to embrace the hauntedside. The woman and forgive me because
I do not. Kathy was hername. Okay, So Kathy is who
gives the tour. As we're goingthrough we she goes, she says,

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she goes, you know, somepeople think this place is haunted. She
goes, I kind of think itis too, like the way and everything,
and we're like, well, letus interrupt ourselves to you. Yeah,
we didn't say what we were doing. We mean, we were just
there for the tour because we weren'ttrying to do any kind of goost on.
We just we just wanted to wantto. Yeah, it was like
how many times you get to seelike a like a historic like mansion like

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that, Yeah, like a Victoriandeserved mansion. And it was like so
amazing because of all the Victorian likethey had that sitting room where it's just
super overindulgence like conspicuous consumption thing goingon. And you know, like back
then, like to show and flauntyour wealth, you basically put out every
single thing you owned. It waslike, look at all the things I

(41:58):
could buy with my money. Iknow. It like poor people didn't have
anything, so they didn't have anythingto display. And I kept thinking,
like, it's so funny nowadays becauselike you see like when rich people like
you see their houses and it's likenothing minimalists, they have nothing, Like
Kim Kardashian's house is like devoid ofany personality. There's white, there's nothing,

(42:19):
you know, so it's like theopposite of what we think. But
it was like, a really,that's what I think. What do you
think, Bob? When I thinkof like the over indulgence And then you
have the poor person. I thinkof Bob Cratchet from a Christmas Yeah,
boiling the laundry on the on thestove, I think of So, like

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I said, we said the ghosttour. Things are new, so we
don't really know who could possibly behaunting it. But Yeah, unfortunately,
there was a lot of deaths atthis house. The Campbell's had thirteen children.
Yeah, ten of them died inthe house in Saint by the way.
That's trouble. They're all from like, they're all from diseases like measles,

(43:06):
scarlet fever or colorade, things likethat. Several of them were babies
when they died one years old,the youngest fifteen months old, and to
the age seven years old the oldestI think two of them were seven when
they died. So the three survivingchildren were all boys. Youngest to oldest

(43:29):
was Hugh, then James and Hazlettor Hazlet Hazlet. Yeah, these three
never married and never had children,so basically the family line with them died.
YEA. The middle one, James, died in eighteen ninety at the
age of thirty. The oldest ofthe three boys, Hugh Campbell, never

(43:50):
married because he was committed to takingcare of his younger brother, Hazlet.
Hazlet had mental health issues, andhis brother Hugh basically did everything for him.
He took him all around Europe,tried to find a cure for him.
Couldn't you know, do anything forhim. Today, Halt might have
been diagnosed as like bipolar or aschizophrenic, but back then they didn't know

(44:14):
how to help him. He endedup having a stroke in nineteen twenty four,
which paralyzed his vocal cords and hecould never like really communicate after that,
and he was confined to a wheelchair, and he was confined to the
second floor of the house, whichis crazy when you think about it,
because, like, you know,he's confined to a wheelchair on the second
floor. He never left that roomunless somebody were able to carry him down.

(44:37):
So is that the That's the placewhere they said that he would go
out onto the balcony to kind oflike look at like what was going on
in like the neighborhood. And therewas a school right there. He would
watch the school children, yeah,and they would make fun of him.
Stories would develop about him because hewas the creaky weirdo in the wheelchair so
yeah, yeah, kids are sorule. In the late eighteen hundreds,

(45:02):
it was more cruel. Kids areinternets. I don't know, both,
I don't know, yeah both.So what did I say, Hazlet or
Haslet? What are we saying hazlet? Hazelet began showing signs of paranoia and
like the late eighteen hundreds, Sothis was interesting. The thing he thought

(45:22):
he believed the wires that ran throughthe neighborhoods into people's houses were being used
to spy on him. Ah.So that's like kind of that schizophrenic paranoia
thing yea. And that was anew thing to have, like wires running
through houses and electricity and things likethat. So it probably freaked a lot
of people out. And I wasjust thinking how like conspiracy theorists are today.

(45:45):
They don't want their devices listening tothem. They're like, oh,
they're spying on the stuff. AndI was like, man, everybody's a
freaking schizophrenic now, yeah, everybody, nobody trusts anybody. So he was
the last one to pass away,and he passed away in the house in
nineteen thirty eight. And just readingabout his brother, Hugh, he was
like a really great older brother.He dedicated, like he dedicated his whole

(46:06):
life helping him. And he alsodonated lots of money to like Children's Home
and like religious organizations, but henever would say that. He never had
his name attached to anything because hedidn't want people to know that he was
donating. He just did it becausehe felt like it was right. Something
else interesting that I learned. Sothe mother, their mother, Virginia Campbell

(46:30):
her mother, So their grandmother,Lucy Anne Winston Kyle, moved into the
house with them in eighteen fifty six. Ye, Lucy Anne was very much
against slavery, and she had twodaughters. Her other daughter was married to
a slave trader, and I believethat was in North Carolina, and they
had like this major falling out overthe whole slave thing. She was a

(46:52):
Quaker and they Quakers were very muchdid not believe and anything like slavery or
anything like that, which I didnot know. And she wanted her to
I don't know what she wanted herto do, not be married to that
guy, for him not to bea slave trader, I don't know what.
The obviously not to be a slavetrader, right, because she thought

(47:13):
it was a terrible thing. Whichit is obviously, but back then to
be having I think that view wasI guess not mainstream. I don't know,
I mean it was. I thinkthe tides were turning at that time
in certain areas because I think therewere free people at the time. And

(47:34):
this is literally right before like theCivil War broke out, Yeah, where
you were living at the time.Yeah, So the Campbell family did own
slaves, at least three that Icould find. So the nanny, the
children's nanny, Eliza Rohona, andher two young children were owned by the
Campbell family. Yeah. And ElizaRohna was married to a free black man.

(48:00):
And I don't know how that works, that you're married to a free
black man but you're not free,Like, I don't know how that works.
I never, I guess thought aboutit, like, and I don't
know how that would work. Yeah. So Lucy Anne told Robert Campbell,
her son in law, that youknow, it's morally wrong to own slaves

(48:21):
and that you cannot have slaves.So in January eighteen fifty seven, right
after Lucy Anne moved in with them, he freed Eliza Rone and her two
children. And I believe she stillcontinued to work at the house, but
as a plaid paid employee, andshe eventually moved to Kansas City with her

(48:42):
husband and her children. Yeah,and I believe they still have descendants and
everything over there. Said I wasgonna say, they told us that a
lot of the people were people whoworked at the home, like the chambermaids
and staff and everything. A lotof them were like they liked being there,
and they worked there a long timeand they were well taken care of.

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So Yeah, and Eliza Rona apparentlywhile she was enslaved, had very
high ranking within the house among peoplewho were paid. You know, she
was high ranking that they entrusted herwith the children. That they must have
really liked her and really trusted herto keep her with the children, you
know. Yeah, she traveled allaround with them too, like everywhere,

(49:29):
So anytime they went anywhere but onlike trips and stuff, training rise or
whatever, she went everywhere with them. I wish that we could investigate that
place, because I bet there isa lot going on there, and especially
if, like other people that workthere think that it's got some interesting paranormal
energy. It's nice to see thatthey're kind of coming around to doing that

(49:51):
sort of thing with their hauntedations.Did it again where I cleared my throat
but I forget to me. Yeah, it's so funny. Sorry. Yeah.
And nice thing is everybody, likethe whole family seemed really good and
nice. Like if there's anything there, I don't think it would be anything
negative. So nobody go over thereand say something negative, because it seemed
like all good positive things. Imean, sad they had a lot of

(50:15):
tragedy with the kid's diet and thenthe other son having schizophrenia, air or
whatever, but I think, youknow, not non negative energy or anything.
Now. One of the other thingsthat we did while we were there
too is we had to do itagain, was we went out on the
historical ghost tour with our friend Markfrom Sea Agost. Yeah. It's it's

(50:37):
an absolutely it's a great tour.It takes you past the Lamp Mansion and
into some historic areas of that areaof Saint Louis, down into the tunnels
of the Lent Brewery, which atone time rivaled Budweiser, which is pretty
amazing. And he has some absolutelylike mind blowing stories from things that happened

(51:02):
in the tunnels of the Lamp Brewery. And just the the neighborhood and everything
else all on its own. Likeyou got to if I could recommend doing
something in Saint Louis where you wantto learn a little bit of history,
you want to be entertained, andyou don't like bs, like you gotta
go on his tour see a ghostdot com. He does them. I

(51:23):
believe most nights he's doing the ghosttours around Saint Louis. So you got
you you you have to go checkit out. One of the places that
we tried by the way to goto was the was the one cemetery and
I can't remember the name of it, Belle Bellefontaine, right, So we

(51:45):
tried to go to Bellefontaine Cemetery,but it was closed because they had had
a lot of crazy storms in SaintLouis like weeks before and there was a
lot of down uh tree like branchesand trees and things like trimming all that
away. Yeah, they were cleaningeverything up, so they weren't allowing anybody
in. So we were like,ah, next time we're there, we'll

(52:05):
go check out. That has ahistorical significance too. We did have to
go to Alton, Illinois because wehear all the stories about how this is
the most haunted small town in America. Bullshit, the Salem of the Midwest,
right, So we were like,oh, we have to go.
Yeah, it was super lame,false, like it was false like that.

(52:30):
I have never been. Look,we didn't do any investigations, so
I don't know, we didn't doany investigations. But also, like you
know, all there were were thriftstores and antique shops like now, they
all closed at like four o'clock inthe afternoon. So if you're going to
go there for like a few hours, if you're in Saint Louis, me,

(52:51):
might as well go there. Itis a very cute little area to
walk around. They had a lotof like vintage antique stores which we went
in, and those are for me. I love doing. That was a
lot of fun. I mean,there was cool scenes stuff, but like
you know, for the most hauntedsmall town in America, I wasn't feeling
the vibes. Well. So,like one of the really like haunted areas

(53:13):
is the mysterious Mineral Springs Hotel,which is now kind of turned into like
shopping area, like a bizarre likethat. Yeah, and then there was
like a museum of like haunted itemsin there. Yeah, And I was
like, I don't know how Ifeel about like haunted items. Like you
have a museum and it's full oflike all these haunted items. I don't
believe you they're all haunted. Ireally don't want to pay your fee to

(53:37):
see like your fake haunted items.No, I'm not saying if this person
has fake haunted items, that's notwhat I'm saying. It's all entertainment.
Go and have fun. But Ijust personally am not into I'm not into
the haunted items. But other peoplelike that stuff, So go and entertain
yourself. It's a little circus sideshow to me, you know what I

(53:59):
mean? You know, yeah,I mean there was the ability lady.
You know. Yeah. They don'thave like really a good like what they're
doing, Like they're trying to dosomething, but there's no real cohesiveness to
it. Yeah. Another place wewent to is the Milton Schoolhouse There.
Okay, cool, that pace wascool. It was cool. So it

(54:20):
is a school house and they've turnedit into these little shops. There's a
coffee shop there. There's also anotherthrift store there. It's cool to walk
through it there's just all kind ofweird things in there. It is haunted.
Yes, they also have an Airbnbso you can actually rent like space
there and stay there, which Ithink is so cool. And I didn't

(54:44):
know that until afterwards, and Iwas like, man, I would have
totally stayed here if I wouldn't know. It's pretty would have been an interesting
sperience. I'm gonna totally say,because you could do an investigation there too.
So the story with the Milton schoolHouse is and this story is most
likely not true, but something doeshaunt it. So it's the janitor kills

(55:07):
a kid story. Yeah, thegirl stays late, she's there, the
janitor, Caesar takes opportunity and killsher, because every janitor is a murderer,
like you know, So that's she'shaunting. Her name is Mary.
I don't think it's true, there'sno you can look it up, and

(55:27):
a lot of the historians are like, there, it's not a true story
or whatever. But I think alot of times there is hauntings and people
don't know why things are haunting,so they just make up a story to
explain the haunting. So there's somethingthere. There is haunting. There is
something, but nobody knows what,so no clue. It's just a very
tiny little area. Yeah. Soit's cute. Yeah, But and then

(55:52):
they have the tallest man ever ripples. His name Robert something. I'll look
it up, Robert something or whatever. They had the whole like memorial and
statue to him. He was likewhat like ten feet tall or something like
that. It was pretty insane.I don't know, I don't know.
Yeah, Robert, Robert. Yeah, they have a statue of him.

(56:15):
He was eight eleven, wing spanof nine five. So in the park
they have a statue of me.You go stand next to him, and
it is insane, like because youthink like okay, oh yeah, and
you go stand next to here,you're like, oh my god, Like
my face is right where his crotcheswhen I stand up. So it's really
weird. It's perfect tight. Somemight say, yeah, those take your
picture with the Yeah, man,I it was something in life that made

(56:39):
me feel short. You know whatelse made me feel short was when we
were in Saint Louis and I hadto go meet Brian from Tara Tacos.
I don't mean he was super tall. Yeah, he was way taller than
I was and then his brother andhim own it Bradley And that's another place
if you are in st Us youneed to go check out Tara Tacos.

(57:01):
It's vegan tacos horror themed and heavymetal themed restaurant. And it was and
it was fantastic. It was itwas really cool. Yeah, I remember
where that area was called where hehad it, but it was kind of
like, I want to use theword hipster area, you know. Yeah,
yeah, renovating those areas, makingit was like clingy, definitely revitalized,

(57:25):
and there was a lot of stufflike that. Yeah, there was
a lot of interesting restaurants there andTara Tacos fit when very nicely. We
also want to go to uh oh, what the heck is that the neighborhood
that we went to as well wherewe went to uh that restaurant as well
with the chuck Berry statue that wasoutside and the lamest planet walk that we've

(57:46):
ever been to in our entire lives. Like, I don't know what we
thought. It was called Cherry Hillor Blueberry Hill. Blueber restaurant was called
Blueberry Hill pop culture. That's acool place to something. There's nothing paranormal
about it. It is just it'sjust fun, an amazing pop culture like

(58:06):
museum inside of it. And youcan also get really good food really but
not the chicken tortilla soup not recommended, but the rest of their stuff was
great. I can't recommend the food, okay, but it was fun to
go in there and look at itbecause you have the chicken tortilla not your
cheese. Listen, I love chickentortillas soup, and it is a chicken

(58:29):
broth based soup. It's a chickensoup with a Mexican flavor and some tortillas.
And it said on there that thiswas a cheese tortilla soup, and
all I'm thinking is, old,there's cheese in every tortilla soup. They
put cheese in it, you know. Yeah, this was like a velveta

(58:51):
cheese dip. Okay, you couldhave insane actual tortillas with it. They
should have given me some tortilla chipsfor dip because it was literally a dip.
It was a dip. And I'mlike, I don't know what this
is. So this is not soup, so good I love it. Yeah,
And then there was this planet walk, so this whole this whole street

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was part of whatever this neighborhood iscalled, and it, you know,
it is one of the things thatyou should see when you're in you know,
Saint Louis is this planet walk.And my son had found it in
this book we have, and Isaid, okay, let's go find it,
and so we're putting it on Googleand it's like just taking us to
nonsense areas and I'm like, Idon't understand. Like I thought it was
in a park, like this planetwalk was part of a park and it

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was on the cement. So wewalk up and down this long street and
everything, and we couldn't find it. And we finally look up and there's
a sign and it says whatever Plutoor something. Yeah, And then we
look further in and you see allthe different the along the street that we've
been walking up and down. Thereare just signs above saying this is where
Earth is, this is where themoon is, this is where this is.

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It was. It was the weirdestthing. It was just part of
the street and it was just givingyou the distance of like this is like
relative distance of where these planets are. We thought we were going to see
like planets, like we thought itwas like gonna be. I thought it
wasn't a park and it was writtenon the ground and you could like look
at it, We're solar system andwe're like, yeah, that's what it
said. I said, walk theSolar System. I was like, oh,

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it was It's just the street.The neighborhood, by the way,
is called the Loop. The Loopis the name of the neighborhood that that's
in, which is a very coolneighborhood. If you get to go there,
you can go and check it out. You can get the famous arch
root beer that they have and allthis other stuff. Like there's just a
lot of interesting things there. Youcan go to the same Starbucks we went

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to to recharge ourselves. I thinkNicole's husband has a like, yes,
game shop there too, tabletop gaminglike Dungeon and Dragons type of thing.
Magic, Yeah, all that stuff. It was a lot of fun.
It was a good trip. Youknow, that was nice. It's it's
tough because you know, like SaintLouis has, like you know, every

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city has its reputation and everything likethat, but Saint Louis. Saint Louis
has become one of our favorite placesto go to. It's got great people
that we have become really good friendswith. It has amazing food. Frank
and Helen's that's another place that welike to do. It's got the the
Their pizza is delicious, They're toastedravioli is delicious. It's just a great

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little family restaurant to go to.And then Sugar Fire Delicious. Saint Louis
Barbecue, we've talked about him before. Oh God, yes, and uh,
you know the Fountain on Locust isanother great restaurant that does their own
he go to the Fountain on Locustsand you get the dill pickle soup.
Yeah, okay, Yeah, Ithink after having that soup, the cheese
soup, like you can't compare.So I was like, and we didn't

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get to talk about that last timebecause we went to that after we recorded
our episode. I believe I don'tremember the Fountain on Locust the first time
was kind of a blur because wealso went to the Anheuser Busch Brewery right
beforehand. I think we talked aboutYeah, I don't I don't want to
regret it, but yeah, don'twant to Anheuser Bush get the pickledal soup.
People pickle dill soup. Yeah youheard it. First, go get

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the pick They do a little miniice cream cones. Do you hear what
you said? Did you hear whatyou said? What you say? Go
get the pickledal soup, Pickle dialsoup, whatever, bill pickle soup.
Come on, bill pickles soup.I don't I don't know. You guys
know I had a strainer. Youknow what happens? Yes, I do.
Anyway, I think that's it.I think that's all. We had
to recap our spooky little visit toSaint Louis this past summer. Again,

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we're going to be back there inNovember. Keep your eyes open as we
get more event information on that.We will be doing a ghost tour and
a ghost hunt at the Saint LouisHaunted Mansion November fourth, So if you're
in the Saint Louis area, bethere. You're not gonna want to miss
out on this. It's gonna beaffordable too. That's the key thing.

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All of these paranormal events go outand you can say you can go ghost
hunting with them, and it's anarm and a leg. We're gonna make
this super affordable so that everybody cancome. That's what my game plan is,
So do not do not be donot be scared. We're not going
to price it like a lot ofthese other event companies are doing right now.
So anyway, I think that's it, right, That's all we have

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for our little Saint Louis sub strolldown lane right and Alton, boo,
Alton whatever. Don't go to Alton, go to Saint Louis. That's all
I have to say. Anyway,you can, they can go to Alton.
If you're going to Saint Louis,it's literally right over the bridge.
Yeah, it was like thirty minutesaway, but man, I can't get
that thirty minutes back. They're anhour an hour of driving. I like

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looking at all the antique shops,all right, but you can be the
good angel and I'll be the badangel. There you go. That's right.
So anyway, guys, make sureyou head over to the description of
this episode, get to all ofour links, links to all of our
merchandise, links to all of oursocial media, and of course in the
description of this episode, we'll havelinks to the Saint Louis Haunted Mansion,

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segost dot com, and the CampbellHouse Museum as well, all great amazing
places with fantastic haunted history for youto check out while you do your little
trip to Saint Louis, Missouri.Guys on behalf of Mitra and myself,
we will catch you on the nextepisode of Unrefined