August 12, 2024 • 47 mins
What did we do on our summer vacation? Went to visit our favorite New England city of course! Unrefined went back to Salem, Massachusetts for our third and fourth times respectfully, and BJ got to experience the Salem Witch Museum for the first time. We will give you a run down of our visit, the ghost tour we went on, and places we think everyone should go to when they head to the Witch City.
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Speaker 1 (00:13):
All right, it's another episode of Unrefined for you guys.
DJ's here, so is Metra that we were excited if
you couldn't tell, we're very, very excited because we were
a fresh off of a little summer vaca. Right, it's
like we're in school vacation. This is how we spent
our summer vacation and we had a lot of fun.
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But thank you guys so much for listening, and thanks
to h everybody just started. We just got a bunch
of new followers on Instagram as.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Well, so you know, the memes are meaning hard for us.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
That's right. The stupider you post, the more people you get, apparently.
So there you have it. But we're back and we're
veryfreshed a little bit, and we are fresh off of
a trip to Salem, Massachusetts, which you guys know, we
love that place and there's a lot of things there
and we're going to talk all about that, plus a
couple of the other things that we've done on our
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summer vacation. That's right. So anyway, but yeah, what did
we do before Salem?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
We went to Alice Cooper concert. Yes, is second concert
I've ever been to in my life and what was
the first concert Alice Cooper.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
That's all right, you've been into concerts.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Neither one of them was of my choice.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, I said we're going to Alice Cooper and you
were like, okay, but you had fun?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, I did.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
The first it was a lot more like theatrical. The
second one not so much, maybe like more towards the end.
So it was a little bit bummer because we took
my teenage son as well with us this time, and
I was kind of like hyping it up and then
it wasn't and I was like, sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
It is fun though, because Alice Cooper does do some
fun things. Yeah, you know, he brings.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Out like a seventy six year old man parading around
leather pants.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
It is fun, it is. And his guitar player, Nita Strauss,
is so good. I watched her play guitar all night,
like Eddie van Halen everybody did. But I like going
to see Alice Cooper anytime that I can. I'm gonna
do that fun. He does the song with Jason and
that's fun. And then Jason comes out and kills somebody
with a machete and everything. It's great.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Then they chop his head.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Off they chop his head off, the big Frankenstein comes
out and everything and anybody who's a child of the
nineties like we are, besides Mitra, because I don't think
she's seen this movie. Has seen Wayne's World, and that's
where he was first introduced.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I have seen Wayne's World, okay, but it was like
when it first came out, and I've seen it once,
so I don't remember anything about it.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I mean, that's the first time that I was ever
introduced to Alice Cooper was because Wayne and Garth went
to him.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Honestly, like, probably didn't even register that he was an
actual famous person.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
You. Yeah, so we went to an Alice Cooper concert.
We also saw the blockbuster hit of the summer, Deadpool
and Wolverine. Where's it Wolverine and Deadpool? I think it's Wolverpool.
It's Deadpool and Wolverine.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Don't even know.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Well, it's got a bad I wasn't sure which one
had the market.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
It's a Deadpool movie.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
It is a Deadeyes a Green movie.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Too's in love with Hugh jacks I love Hugh Jackman.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
He's a man.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So that was it was.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
On the It was on the list of things to do.
Like when we're trying to come up with things to do,
I said, Deadpool Woverine.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Is because I'm here visiting BJ right now. Usually I'm
in Texas. Yeah, but I'm here for a little while
in New York.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Land and we're going to see dead Pool Woverine. Now,
I would have seen it again if there was time,
But busy lives and also long movie. I would say
it's on par So if you haven't seen it yet,
i'd say it's on par with the other Deadpool movies.
And it's a nice little nod to all of the
old X Men movies as well. It was fun. It
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was a lot of fun. Movies are always good, and
we got to see like that. You get to see
like a lot of characters that you haven't seen in
a really long time too. I'm not going to spoil
anything because I'm not a spoiler, but there's a lot
of there's a lot of really cool things in that.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
We seen it. I've already seen it.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I know it like a billion dollars or something already. Right,
we're talking about this late came out end of July.
This is the middle of August. Now we're already in
the middle of August. I know, I just like, looked
at this.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
It's been so nice here.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
The weather has been so nice here in New York,
like in the seventies. Back in Texas were in the hundreds.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And I'm like, I don't want to go back.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, the suffocating heat. Yeah, so wow, it's been nice. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
And then last weekend we went to Salem.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Oh I was going to say, where do we go?
Last weekend? Salem?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
We went to Salem.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Ye been wanting to go back. My son loves it there,
and so I was like, we got to go this summer.
So we did a little mini trip there.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, it wasn't long. We only like we knew exactly
what we wanted to do while we were.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Last time we went, we went in October. We went
Columbus weekend like two years ago, and it was insanity.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
It was it two or three years ago?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
It was three years ago. No, it was age ago.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
No, it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
It was when they first opened it back up after
COVID and they had record breaking numbers and the mayor
was like, its telling people stop coming to sale and
we cannot support the crowds anymore. Yeah, And so that
was the first time they had these like insane oh
like crowds or whatever, because I had been there with
my both my sons yea years before when they were
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real little, and it was just like normal amount of
people like that you would see at any given time
of the year. They trick or treated, we did the parade, everything,
and it was just very minimal amount of people.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
It was it was like it was Marty Brawl.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
When we went last time.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I would say, you didn't get to get into any
of the like the Witch Museum or anything, even though
I had been there previously. At the Witch Museum, we
didn't get to go in with the kids now that
they're older.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
They went when they were younger and they didn't remember anything.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
We didn't need to do much of the things that
required UH tickets in advance. Last summer there in October,
which I would highly recommend, Like listen, if you want
to go to Salmum in October and you want to
go there for the Halloween vibes and everything, then might's fun.
Go for it. It is fun, but just realize that
it is going to be very busy and is going
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to take over.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I mean, there was.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Lines to get into stores just to get in and
you had to wear masks still at the time and everything.
And I don't know if they were letting limited people
in the stores because of social distancing.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Oh for sure. Yeah, I don't know if that was.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
How it would be normally, like during Halloween. I mean
it could be.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
A just for like too many people in the store,
for thieves and things like that.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
But prior to going there and in October, we had
gone there.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
In April and there wasn't hardly anyone there. Oh, it
was old and it was great.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It was great. It was awesome. That was a lot
of fun, and April was fun, and now we just
went in the middle of summer, which is a totally
different thing.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
There was a good amount of people walking around to
a restorer, yeah, but it was obviously nothing like.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
A lot of people from like way outside of the
United States too. There were a lot of people there
from other countries, which I thought was very interesting. So
this whole like hype about Salem has definitely gone beyond
the United States and everything like that. Like, what do
you think is the trigger of that? Do you think
it's just like people being like more into like that
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style or.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
No, I think probably people are coming to the United States.
I know, like people who come from like you know,
other countries, they have longer periods of vacation time. You know,
it's not like in the US how we do vacation
and they'll come to the US and they'll like be
here for like a month literally, So they're just touristing everywhere.
So if they go to Boston, right, they're going to
do Boston things and then naturally filter into Salem and
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do some things in Salem.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
So and it's not that far out of they have.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Right, someone's coming over for England just to go to Salem.
They're doing a bunch of things. It's just one of
their stops on their list.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
That's right, that's true, That's what I assume. I will
say that of the three periods of the year that
we have been there, while October is cool because you're
in the thick of it, April was great because it's
very separated from everything else.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
It was cold to walk around.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, it was, it was. The April is the best one.
That time of year, early spring is definitely the best
time to be there. I would say if you're planning
going to plan on going there, then you would probably business.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
So that was your first visit to the Witch Museum.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah, how did you like it? So the Salem Witch Museum,
and we have had people from the Witch Museum on
the show before and they kind of talked about it
and everything like that. So I was under the impression
that it was going to be more museum ish and
it's actually more theater based, which I thought was really interesting.
It is very old school though, Like the whole thing
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with that is wild. If you've been there before, you
know what I'm talking about. If you haven't, then you'll
be surprised the way that I was surprised that you're
seeing like this kind of theatrical show that's going on before.
It's the whole story. Yeah, it talks about everything. It
talks about like why people were the way they were
backed and then why it started and everything.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
When they really don't have much museum.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
There's like no museum. Yeah, there's no museum. It's the
Salem which playhouse is what they should call it. With
Disneyland style animatronics.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
That are not animatron If you are familiar with what
was the Hall of Presidents at Disneyland or the Carousel
of Progress, I would say that it's very similar to
that minus them moving around.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
That's exactly what it was. Yeah, So I do think
they need a better formula for it. I think it was. Yeah,
I liked it. I think it was okay. I liked
the narration. But if I could have just sat there
with like my eyes closed and listened, I think I
would have liked it better than having to like sit
you sit in like this this center of the thing,
and then the production or whatever goes on all around you.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
We okay, just say this. Okay.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
We get into and it's a theater and you're supposed
to sit in the center on these red st duels,
and it's a lady on the microwave microphone microwave pikewave
on the microphone, and she said, please everybody, for the
best viewing option, please sit in the center of the
red stools. And Bja goes and sits on this bench
on the perimeter, and the lady is just repeating it
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a thousand times, and me and my son are just
looking at Bjay, like, what do you not hear this
loud voice. It's literally telling you off the bench.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I thought she.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Was like specifically talking to you or just like looking
at you, like, what are you know?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
And as it filled into there was a lot more
people there. I was surprised though, because like, there were
a lot of people going to the Sandwich Museum and.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
That's the thing you do there.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I guess it's the thing I know.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
But the big huge Gothic looking castle and church building
that you got to.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Go back dab in the middle of it. It's so
well known there, you know. When we talked to I
believe her name is Rachel, she was very educated on
the subject and everything like that. Personally, for me, I
was a little bit let down that it wasn't more
focused on history and it was a lot more focused
on being theatrical and trying to be a little bit
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into scary stuff, which I think, if anybody knows who's
listened to the show in the past, I am way
more into the historical side of things and lesson to
trying to make thinks scary.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I had to make it.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I don't think the theatric part tried to make it scary.
I think they explained it and at the end, you know,
they were like, you know that girl that accused the
Rebecca nurse and everything apologized to the family and stuff
like that.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
They had a giant devil statue come out at the
beginning with glowing eyes. I think that's trying to make
it a little bit scary. I don't know. I don't
think that there's a lot of history behind it. I
think that it's a a place that wishes it was
a museum. I think they do a good job at
the end of it for the little ten minute thing
that you have after the production that takes you through
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like a I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Know, three of which is pop culture.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah, history of witches through time and everything like that.
I that's a that's more history based and everything like that.
But you know, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
It was pretty museum at the end. I was like,
what is this?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
If you're going to go to it, go to it.
Because it's one of those things that I have to do.
I have to go to it. It was fun. Off
my bucket list.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
That was the second time I've been to it. The
first time I went my son that was with us
this time. Yeah, he was like three years old in
a stroller and he threw up during the theatrical part
and so we didn't get to go see there's your review.
There's Yeah, he threw up everywhere. Yeah, we tried to, like,
you know, pay attention to what was going on, and
we really couldn't. And then when we went to go
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to the walk around museum part, which was kind of
a joke, we never got to make it there because
I was like, we got to go, I'm covered in vomit.
I do have a I didn't get to see that part.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I have a bit of an issue with a place
that has a museum where the gift shop is bigger
than the actual museum.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
It's a great gift shop too, and you don't have
to go to the actual museum.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
You can just go into the gift shop. In case
you want to bypass.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
That, that's true, you can just go into the little
gift shop and you can probably pick up a book
and learn about just as much as.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
But yeah, a lot of But it was fun knowing
you got to see it.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I like the whole theatrical thing.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Okay, meta recommends, I say, if you got time, do it,
but you don't have to. Yeah, that's what I say.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
So the other thing we did there, yes, what was
it called historic Haunted walking?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So yeah, sorry, So we decided now We've gone on
several uh walking ghost tours in the past now, and
by far our favorite is the Saint Louis Yes, yeah,
the one with from seeghost dot com. Anybody who's listening
and wants to go on a great ghost tour, it
is in the Saint Louis area. Ghost dot com killers
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you're into true crimes. Our friend Mark does a fantastic
historical walking ghost tour. And when I say historical, I
mean he talks about the history of everything, behind everything
and doesn't just try to make it a creepy thing
that he does. It's educational, it's entertaining, and it's spooky,
and I think that those are creepy. It checks off
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the three things that I love about that and he
is just really good at doing it. It's the best
one we've been on by far. We've been in other ones.
We've been in San Antonio. We've gone on one and
we weren't so thrilled with that ghost Star either. It
was fine, but this one was by far, I think
the worst one we've ever been on. Of all the
ghost tours we've done. It was the Historical Salem walking Tours.
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It's the big Purple Sign it's down by the trolley depot.
If you're walking in Salem, that's where you do it.
And our host was a guy named I don't even
know what schmiegel. I don't know. It was Stash Dash,
a guy named Stash my first red flag and my
major issue. And now listen, I know a lot of
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these walking tours are performance based. I know that, okay,
But when he leads in and says, I'm not really
big into the history. I am a stand up comedian,
I'm like, okay, so what have we gotten ourselves into here?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
But I thought he would be a good storyteller, because
those medians are storyteller.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
He was bad, terrible storytelling.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I thought that there was moments of that where he
was funny when he was interacting with people that were
on the tour. I thought that it was funny and everything,
but he was way leaning into things that were not.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
He just didn't, I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Know, really tell a cohesive story.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Time he was saying anything, it was like he just
didn't have his thoughts together correctly.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
And it just was not the way that this this
tour is described is called like ghostly footsteps or something
like that. Yeah, and you know it's supposed to be
a lantern too, And no, it wasn't suposed to be
a lantern.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It was a lantern.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
No, it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I was expecting a lantern.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Well, I don't know why you were expecting a lantern.
There was no mention in the lantern. I thought it
was I think you just had that in.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Your I saw other people walking with them offering a lantern.
Different companies doing a ghost tour, so it's going to
be hard to like if you're going there to find
one that's good. I'll say the reason probably not only
just the tour company, but from worker to worker it's
going to be different.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Well, and they also just did that new thing in
Salem now where each place has to pay three hundred
dollars per tour guide. So it's a lot. But the
reason why we went with this particular tour company was
because we wanted to support a local Salem business and
they've been doing it.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
For twenty plus that has one in every city, exactly
a mom and pop type situation, right, That's why I went.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
And this was the most highly reviewed one on Google,
Like I did my research and everything like that. We've
been to Salem a couple of times now, and we decided,
let's do one of these walking tours and maybe we'll
learn a little bit. Now we did, I will say
this to their credit. They did take us into some
places where I wouldn't have normally thought to go. Yeah,
we learned some stuff that we didn't know and everything
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like that. But it's sold as a historical tour with
sprinklings of spooky and everything like that. This guy was
like encouraging everybody to try and take pictures of what
was going to be ghosts. He's like, take.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Pictures, you give explanations on things and where things came
from and stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
So it was just what I did not like, okay,
is that he kept telling everyone to take pictures of
buildings and make sure you get good pictures of the windows.
Windows is where you always see the ghosts and everything
like that. Now we know, just from going out and
doing paranormal investigations that when you take a picture of
a window and what is it paradalia or something like that,
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there's yes, you did have that happen on this tour, Okay.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I had it happen, yes, but it was a face
and my son took the same picture and there's no
face in his ya in the same window pane at
that Grimshaw house right by the burying point point it's
Charter Cemetery.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, the char Charter Street Cemetery, the old burial point
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
But the thing is is when you take pictures of windows,
and anybody who does paranormal investigations will tell you that
there's going to be reflections and light's going to refract
and all this other stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Well that's why you pick multiple And what's annoying is
I didn't because, Okay, a weird thing happens.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
We're out of practice.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It is, so a.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Weird thing happened to me while we were there. We
go immediately this guy when he introduces and talks himself, like,
my brain shut off immediately.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Did not like his demeanor or anything.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
So I was just like I kind of almost just
like turned my brain off, and I was like, this
isn't going to be good.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
You were like that TikTok off it and it's like
I've seen what I needed to see. Yeah, immediately, I.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Know that's exactly what I went through my head. So
I kind of like wrote this guy off right away.
So the first thing we do is we He talked
forever too, before we even got.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
To it was brutal. It was pretty brutal.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Often let's go.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
The thing is like, he talked forever, but it wasn't
anything about the tour. He talked about himself.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, and it was just boring. I was like, let's go.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I don't need your back.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
So anyway, So the first place we go is the
Charter Street Cemetery, which is the big one. It's the
one seen in hocus Pocus. I believe they do a
shot of it or do something with it or whatever.
Think it looks like a fake cemetery, like it looks
like a movie set because it's just so old.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
It's where the memorial is for all the witch trial.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
That's so anyway, like that, we go over there, we
don't go inside of it because I don't think they're
allowed to on these tours.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I was actually surprised at all the places that tours
were not allowed to go into. Like you have more
access just walking around on the street on your own
than you do with a walking tour, which I was
surprised by.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
So we go over there and he's just talking, talking, talking,
and I'm just like barely listening. He's talking about the
things that I already know about because anybody can read
it on theline, right, So I already know these stories
that he's telling or whatever. And so I'm just like
whenever I'm bored, so I'm taking a picture of my son.
A few times, I'm taking a picture of the house
next door. It's called like the I think Grimshaw House
or whatever. I'm taking of that in like different angles
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and stuff and taking a picture of him. And it
was lightning a lot in the background, like far background
that night, which was nice, gave it a nice spooky
atmosphere or whatever. Yeah, and I see the lightning like flashes,
and I had a few pictures of him and I
was like, oh, this is cool. Here's one where the lightning,
you know, like I said, far in the background, you
can see like the light is the skylight lit up?
And the next picture it wasn't. And then he the
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tour guy, says something about does anyone believe in ghosts
or anything like that, and I just barely caught him
saying that no.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
No, no, He didn't ask that anybody's believes in ghosts.
He says, has anybody ever here seen ghosts or being
a ghost. And I stood there with my hands at
my side, looking at the ground because I just didn't
want to talk to him, and I and you weren't
paying attention.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I wasn't paying attention, like your.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Son puts up both of his thumbs and points at
both of us to him like he's like, these two
right here have seen ghosts. And he points out He's
like you two have seen.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
It, and I just said and I was, it's just
kind of like that dear common the headlights. I didn't
know what to say because I was literally looking at
a picture, not paying attention to what he was saying.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
And I was like, yeah, we were like not quite.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
We do like paranormal stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
We have like a podcast, We've done some investigations or whatever.
But like as I'm saying this, I am like, the
weirdest thing happened. So I'm like saying this to him,
and like this weird blue light is like going like
outlining half his body and I'm just like looking at
this light.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
And I'm like confused.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
So he's saying it and I'm almost I can't even
like describe, like I don't even know what I'm saying
I'm saying words, but I'm not really paying attention to
like what I'm saying, so I don't know if I'm
just babbling like an idiot, because I'm seeing this blue
outline on him and it was just weird, and I
was just like, that was weird. I don't even know
what I saw, and so I didn't know I had
taken this picture of what I think it looks like
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a face in the in that house, and it wasn't
until I went back, and it was at the same
time that like I took the picture of the house,
saw that face, and then I turn over to him
and then I see this weird blue outline on just
like where his shoulder is down to like maybe his waist.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
And we did we go anywhere before we went on
the ghost tour to eat or anything like that. I know,
we were just that we didn't go to Ori we did.
That wasn't when we went to O'Neill's. Was that O'Neills
that we go there before?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
We did? That was before the ghost tour, Oh it was,
wasn't it a.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Few hours before We went back and relaxed for a
little bit and let our food settle and then walked
around on the tour.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Oh maybe you're right. Yeah, I was going to say,
but we did have some drinks, so I don't have alcohol.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
It was a while because we didn't want to go
right after.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, and I only had one drink and I didn't
even feel buzz from it.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
It was like nothing.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
There's some one thing that you guys need to understand
about Mitra is that she does not drink for the taste.
He drinks to feel it, and that's it.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
He drinks to feel it.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
What do you I guess because you want to have
a buzz.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
If I want a delicious drink, I'll drink a diet
coke like I don't need to have like a cocktail
of juices, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
By the way, the side note, there is a new
trend online where people are doing this diet coke challenge
to see if you can tell the difference between all
these different diet cokes. Do you think you could pass that?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Easily?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, what do you mean? All these different diet cokes?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
So they'll have like a bottle of coke to drink
out of a can of coke, and then the various
fountain cokes from like a Wendy and McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Tell you a fountain because they taste well.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
You have to identify which restaurants.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I don't eat a lot of fast foods, so I
wouldn't be able to do that.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
But you know what they.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Do McDonald's because there's is probably probably mcdonald'suntain drinks.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
But yeah, I don't think I could pick out the
other ones though I don't. I don't eat.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Also never eat anything fast food, and I'm definitely not
getting drinks there.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, I think that there's a consistent drink that we
both drink a lot of this, probably diet coke, well
water Diet Cokes a close second.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Okay, So anyways, back to the tour. Yes, so we're
going we're continuing on the tour or whatever. And I,
you know, that was a weird thing that happen. But
I'm also still writing this guy off. I don't really
like him, and I felt like, I honestly felt like
he could feel that I was.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Annoyed by him.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I think he could feel.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Hanging back and not really like liking what he was
saying and not paying attention. He was just going on
and on about tai Chi and all this stuff, and
it was really aggravating me.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
He brought us to by He brought us to the
to the Ropes Mansion, which is what's our phase, his
house from pocus Pocus. What's her name Abigail? No, it's
not Abigail.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
No, that was the vampire that was the vampire movie Alison,
Alison Alison's house in hocus Pocus.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
He brings us there very famous house right near the
Witch House in Salem, which is Alison's home in the
movie White One, and it's it's I guess you were
telling me, like the three sisters that are from the
Ropes Mansion are the like vaguely based on the Sanders
you make.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
When we went there with Joel, we were just joking
around about it. That's the real thing. He was saying
something about it. We were just joking around. Oh okay,
I got but I don't know if like he had
seen it somewhere, but we were just going I don't know,
but anyways, we were doing like.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
So we went to the garden, yeah, the gardener.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Surprise, we were allowed to go there, and.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Tai Chi in the garden with us. He's like, let's
all feel everybody's energy.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
But he was like, let's like, let's get in a
circle and make energy. And I get what he was doing,
you know, when he was trying to make it interactive
and I was.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Trying to make it interact with it was also like
but he.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Was like, do you feel the energy? Do you feel
the magnet magnets?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
And I said wait, wait, wait, wait stop, it is
dead quiet. No one is saying anything, and Mitri goes, no,
I feel the energy. I feel negative energy or somebody
I said, I.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Feel negative energy. I'm non magnetizing right.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, because that's what they kept saying. He's like, are
you magnetized? Are you guys magnetized right now?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Magnetizing right now?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Feeling the magnetism between is like, you know he has this.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Okay, there is I'm from Texas. I'm from San Antonio.
There was three other people there. There were like college
age students from off from Austin, Texas, which is like
an hour and a half away from me, and we're
I was like, god, that's so random. But they were
like hook line and sinker with everything he said.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
They bought it every.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Thing he said.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
And me and BJ are rolling his eyes when he's
telling us, like all these things and everything.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So like my eyes at half of everything. Everything you say.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
So we're doing the tai chi and we just barely
stood in a circle and put hands up to each
other and they're like, oh, I.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Can feel it.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
They're like, yeah, I can feel it. So that's why
I said, no, I don't feel it. I'm I'm magnetized
right now. Because I was like, get out of your
own heads, people, like that's what I was thinking. So
then he was going on and on about this haunted
bench over there and how haunted it is and such
energy over there.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And seen apparitions on it and everything's.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
On this picture over there at the bench and everything.
I had my EMF with me and I had all
my ghost hunting stuff with me just in case. So
the group goes on me and BJ hung back and
I was like, let me wait a second, get the
MF dead, silent on the as.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Because he was saying, let's bring energy here. That was
the whole thing with the tai chi, like let's bring
some energy and draw the energy to us.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
The whole thing with his tour where he started out
was like he's like, we're going to walk the street
to Salem, you guys are going to experience paranormal activity
and people have felt it and seen it on my
tours and everything like that. Okay, so but whatever.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Something did, something else did happen to me. So not
only did I see the blue thing, so here I am,
I'm bashing this guy and I'm saying like his tourist crap,
and things actually happened, because this is how it happens
with me. I'll be negative about something but then like
things actually start to happen. Yeah, this happened at the
jail too, where I was basically like, this is stupid,
nothing's even happening. Lavaka County Jail, Laua County Jail where
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I was I literally said, outlined under my breath, this
is stupid, nothing's even happening.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
And then it was like all hell broke blues.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah, and then a lot of activity happened all that.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
So, yeah, when he brought us to whatever, like street alley, whatever.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
And he was talking about Houdini and I don't remember
exactly where we were, we walked from that place over
to where it was the town hall area where another
location where hocus Pocus they'd put the Yeah, the fell
on me.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, was saying that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
So as we're walking from one location to the other,
and it's just literally almost like diagonally like across the street.
I had a tote. It wasn't a purse, it was
a tote, and the tote was like long, like halfways
to like my thigh area. It felt like the bottom
corner of the tote like somebody pulled on it. Yeah,
And I immediately turned because I thought it was like
BJ or my son. And I really felt like my
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son because when he was little he did that stuff
to me all the time. He would pull on my purse. Mom, Mom,
that's what it felt like. And I turned and it
was like nobody was there, and I was like hmm,
and I kind of jumbled the things around in my purse,
thinking did something my purse just shift while I was walking,
and like nothing felt like that.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
And I was like, that's that was weird.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Because I've never had that happen before. I've never had
my shirt pulled or my purse pulled or my hair pulled,
like people talk about it all the time. I never
had that sensation before. So of course I tell PJ
about it and he's like, that didn't really happen.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
He couldn't slave me because because I am far more
skeptical at this point, and Mitra is way more the believer.
If we're going Molder and Scully, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
She's done, like yeah, yeah, on everything.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
It's because I just see through it at this point.
I don't know. I mean, I do believe it. We've
experienced some interesting things that I can't explain and everything. Yeah,
there's a lot out there that is just byes.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Yea, but you should believe me, of all people when
I say, like it's something weird happened, I believe you
don't believe me. Wrong anyway, Okay, that was the highlights
of the tour.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Basically, Yeah, I would say, you know, support a local business.
It's fine. People really like it. They do a good
job of doing like you know, campfire ghost story stuff
while walking around Salem. But for us, who have you know,
gone into locations and sun research that we just.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Know too much about?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I think, yeah, I think to too many people that
have for us at this point, like we are a
little bit ye ruined for things.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I think so, But so we did that and then
now like what other things that we did there which
we highly recommend if you're going to sail on, these
are places that you need to go to because they
are really fun and they are awesome. First of all,
while it's still there, Which City Thrift is a really
really they're right on uh Essex Street. It's yeah, right
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right next to the Witch House. And the Witch House
is another thing that you have to do while you
go there.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
That's the famous one that's black that everybody takes picture from.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
No witch is involved there, No witch is involved that.
They just call it the witch House. Uh. But that
The Wich City Thrift is a great store, locally owned
and operated. They are moving, they aren't going to be
on Essex Street by the end of this year, but
if you can get there beforehand, it's just like so
many weird, awesome, crazy things in there. Metros found a
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bunch of Halloween blow mold in there. It's just it's
really cool. So I would highly recommend going there. Another
spot that I personally enjoy going into is the Harrison's
Comic Book Shop. That's also street. It's nothing to do
with spooky stuff, but I love me some comic books.
As you said, we went and saw Deadpool and Wolverine,
so that's a great place too. They've got a lot
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of really interesting pop culture things in there. The Trolley
Depot too. The Trolley Depot is a really really great store.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
That's I guess that would be my favorite souvenir shop.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I think it's a great souvenir shop. I think it's
just a great little interesting store to go in that
has a lot of everything in there, from Salem souvenirs
to Christmas ornaments to just like weird interesting things like that.
I would highly recommend the Trolley Depot. I really like
that store a lot, and they're super friendly in there,
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which was great. Another place that we like to go
now because it's the second time that we went, is
that O'Neill's Irish Pub on Washington Street. I think that
is a great place. Awesome food, amazing atmosphere, very friendly service.
That waitress uh was super friendly, she was fell fell
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in love with Mitra. She called us babe a lot,
a whole lot. But that was great. And they make
their own beer there and I drink that every time
we go and it's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
And the Seaport, we've been there three times.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Rody's Seaport is our That was the third time that
we went, and the third time that was an absolute home.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Ra was just dreaming about going there and eating against.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, they do a hat I think it's haddock. They
do a hattock sandwich, and he.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Said it's the best sandwich ever. Yeah, I don't like fish.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Everything that we've ever gotten there has been delicious. Every
single thing we've ever gotten.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
There is based non fish items.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yes, they do don't like fish. Metro and I got
the chicken tenders because we're because we're twelve years old,
but we got the chicken tenders. But they also had
great sweet potato fries, which were good. We've gotten other
things all we've been there, and.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
It's just it's good.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
And it's really close by the water, so if you're
going over into the little lighthouse over there, it's literally
right there.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, and I cannot remember the name of it, but
we went to This is the second time that we've
gone to that like smoothie place. It's like a health
food store. It's right down the road from the from
which city Thrift and I apologize for not being able
to know the name. The sign of it is like
a big purple circle. Yeah. Yeah, but we we've gone
there now twice and it's delicious. It's just like a
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nice quiet escape oasis type nice.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
We have like couches you can sit on really smoothie
or your tea or whatever.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Really good, really really good Joe Hoo coffee, Joho coffee too.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Oh yeah, you've had that a few times.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
I cannot. I can't go to Salem and not have
that coffee.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Which is also by the little lighthouse over there on
that area.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, over there, like the waterfront by sale where the
Friendship Salemon is and stuff like that. So if you're
over there, get that problem.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
That stupid friendship.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Stalem is like under construction every single time. Do you
like an old ship? What did it need to do
repairs on you? Man? I just want to look at you.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
So we stayed.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
So we stayed at an Airbnb. We've done an airbnb before.
The first time we went, it was like a house
from the sixteen hundreds.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Barbie Wire if you're listening you follow us on Instagram.
We still appreciate that air I.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Wanted to stay at her place again, but it's not available.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
That's because it's the best Airbnb ever and the greatest
location that you could be in right next to Bunghole Liquors.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, you have to gowhere.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Just go to Bunghole Liquors. If you go to second place.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
To the one we stayed at, it was Christy right.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Christy was the Crombie House.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
The Crombie House built in eighteen oh five.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Now, I didn't know anything about the house being haunted
or anything, and I don't know anything about the other
airbnb about it being haunted.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
We didn't have anything happen there.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
But when I was at this house, there was when
I was in the bathroom, there was a weird knock
and I couldn't tell if it was like on the
door or on the wall, but it was like a knock,
and I kind of thought it was either BJ or
my son knocking. Yeah, And I asked him, thinking somebody
was just trying to play a joke or just knock
or something. I said, I asked him, did y'all knock?
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And Everyone's like, no, we didn't knock or anything. And
I was like hmm. So, like I said, I had
all my ghost hunting stuff with us, and I told BJ,
let's just do a little sparro box session, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
So wed Yeah, So we did, and.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
We got two names, Philip and Mike, and apparently there
was a third there was, like I mentioned that a
third one was there, but they.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Didn't want to give a name or anything.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
But I was just trying to We're just trying to
ask like questions about like kind of just to.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Like validate anything.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yeah, I asked, because the room is painted, like, the
place is really cool. It's kind of got like a
weird Victorian like goth theme going on or something.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
It's like romantic scary.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, scary I interview with the vampire.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, but it's like postelles and stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, it's that type of thing.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
A lot of flowers, but then there's a skull on
the flower, you know, like that thing.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
So anyways, there's a.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Door and it's painted purple, and I'm right next to
it and I said, BJ's the one that was listening
to the spirit box with the headphones on.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
I said, what color is the door?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Now? To listen, we have the spear box of the
headphones on, but we were not we didn't have cam yeah, yeah,
and we didn't have a blindfold on or anything. It
was just kind of imprompt too, right, And I listen.
I only put I put the earbuds in just so
I could hear it more clearly, because I couldn't like a.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Thing with just it listening to it so we could
hear it, I couldn't make it. And yeah, it was
too hard, so you had to hear turn the volume
out loud enough.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
On those things.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
So anyways, anyways, it was purple, a purple door, and
I asked what color is this door?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
We get the answer purple.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, like straight up, like and I'm the one who
heard it, and it was clear. It was really cool.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Yeah, we asked a few things, and I wish because
it was just like, let's do this real quick.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
We didn't report anything, but I think we asked.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Like we asked like you like is this your home?
Like do you know where you are? And things like that.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
And we got questions.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
It was it was like can you leave? And this
I think it said something like they were stuck there
they can't. Yeah, like there was a thing and then
we asked the names, like I said, we got the
first one was fill Up, the next one was Mike,
and then there was a mention of someone possibly the
else being there. But we didn't get the name of
that one. And also it felt like they were kind
of joking around and didn't really want to like talk,
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but it wasn't like mean or menacine or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
And we think you.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Asked, I asked what year you is it? Or what
year you died in? And you got eighty nine And
I said eighty nine? What, yeah, you know, like nineteen
eighty nine, Yeah, seventeen eighty nine.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I never got We never had confirmation on that, So
eighty nine something somebody passed away or something like that.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah, And I oh, and I asked, do you look
out the window? Do you watch anybody out the window?
Do you look out the window? And I think he
said like the man, like he sees the.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Man up there, Yeah, something like that, which is funny
because I mean, we were staying on a pretty busy street.
We were staying on Crombie Street, right, Yeah, So we
were staying on Crombie Street and it was busy, like
there was traffic up and down it the entire time
we were there. There was people walking up and.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
There there was literally a construction worker outside the window. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Yeah, that's why like when he said.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
The skeleton that greeted us too, the Giant a Giant.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
So anyways, we check out all the Airbnb and I
messaged the lady that runs it. I said, yeah, I
don't know if your place is haunted or anything, but
I had a weird knock on the bathroom door, and
I didn't want to.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Tell her that we did a spearbox session house.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah, so because sorry, but I just told her.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I didn't say any reference. I just said I got
the name Philip and Mike if that means anything to you.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Yeah, And she.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Said, yes, the place was haunted and she has had
similar reports from other people, which yeah, And she didn't
say anything about the names, but she just said I've
had similar reports from other people. So I didn't get
any more detail on You've.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Done a pretty decent job of finding us places that
potentially might be haunted.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Well it's old enough, that's true.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
But it's like the.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Guy apparently I did a little research on him. That
whole section of street over there was a waterway apparently.
Oh really, yeah, that the street was actually a waterway
and he had a tavern there. Yeah, and it was
called like Cambrey's Combrey's Tavern.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Or Robbie's Robby's tavern.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
There's a plane going by and I'm distracted.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
The MIC's picking it up, but it's really loud.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
So anyways, and he lived in a in like because
he owned like the whole like plot of land or whatever,
and so he lived in one area.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
He had the tavern in another area. So all those houses.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
There, I'm not sure how old there are, how many
that are still there that maybe he owned in that area.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
So it wasn't just that house.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
I believe it was like the whole section. But then
I guess when they blocked off the water somehow, yep,
because the water came up really far before.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
We learned that on the Ghost that's ocean had come
all the way into the city of sandwhich I thought
was interesting.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yeah, So at some point, like the water whatever they
do to make it go back, that built the land
up or whatever, and that becomes a street and that
was then a private driveway going up to all his property.
But then it became a street and that's a teeny
tiny little street, so I can understand it being like
a driveway.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
So though that was that was interesting.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Yeah, it was really cool. So the last thing that
we'll be doing on this, which we won't be able
to report on, is we're going to go see Prime
and Cohating Cambria, So another concert.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
And I don't know any Primus songs.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
You're in trouble then, yeah, you know any Coding Cambria songs.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I don't even know if that's a group or a person.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
This should be an interesting time. Yeah, it'd be very interesting.
But yeah, that's it. That's a third Salem trip in
the books. We'll have to get back there again. I
don't know when we'll go back though.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
And that's the only time we've had any kind of
paranormal things happen in Salem. I've been there four times,
you've been there three and this was the only time
we've had any kind of paranormal.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah, yeah, that was it, just that one time.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
So I wouldn't expect ever if people are going to
see it.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
It's like when I when I go to Salem, I
I don't think of paranormal. Honestly, when I go to Salem,
I think of history. I think of tragedy. I think
of like a city that's embracing it's, uh, you know,
kind of horrible history. I guess making the best.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Of uvenir shops and seeing a lot of crystals potions.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Yeah, yeah, every stop there sells the same thing. You
guys need to branch out a little bit more. I
don't need that many crystals, and I don't need that
much incense or tarot cards, So think of something else
to sell, right, I guess that's why.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
They shouldn't be get ringing rid of the Witch City Thrift.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I know that's two beds. I hope that they opened
back up it will be Also biggest gripe I have
with Salem is the lack of bathrooms for people to use.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Now.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
I understand if you're a restaurant or something like that,
you want to make sure that you're paying customers are
using it. But when the only bathroom available is the
mall is the Wich City Mall, and the men's room
was boarded up, literal board literally boarded up a literal
two like two by fours and plywood drilled into the walls,
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I know, like I had like walking dead, don't open
dead inside, Like I told.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
You to go use a girls bathroom. Nobody was in there.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
I know it was crazy though, Like you know, so
Salem needs more access to public restrooms. They need to
like build some public restrooms.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Like at a park, if you were to have like, oh,
you mean, like the.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Giant park in the middle of the city.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
They have nice restrooms there.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Should they should. Anyway, we like Salem, but they need
more places for you to pee pee. But I think
that's it. That's all we have.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
We also watched that Abigail movie too last night, which
is a vampire movie. I'm sure many of you listening
have seen it. What I said when I finished it
was that I thought it was a fun movie. It's
got a lot of really good actors and actresses in it.
I just like, don't know what I'm looking for at
this point when it comes to vampire.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Also, he had never seen the Tom Cruise Brad Pitt
Interview with the Vampire.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
No, I watched that for the first time. Watch that
for the.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
First time, and then he watched like two days later, Abigail.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Yeah, which one was better?
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Interview or Aigail.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Interview with the Vampire was better than Abagai? Yeah, because
I like traditional vampires and there are more traditional vampires
in Interview with the Vampire. So also made me realize
how much the people on True Blood kind of just
ripped off and run, which I had seen. I had
seen a lot of True Blood. I just watched that
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whole season or a whole series. But I had never
seen an interview with the vampire. I was never I
was never an an Rice person. You're an an Rice person.
You love that movie, so you showed it to me.
The only thing I don't love is Brad Pitt. I
didn't think he was a very good actor in that movie.
I like, I like Tom Cruise.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
I had never seen anything with Brad Pitt in it.
That was my first introduction to Brad Pitt. And I
was like thirteen or something watching that movie. Totally in
love with Brad Pitt.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
After seeing that, and then after you watched it now
as an adult, are you like, why is he so robotic?
Why doesn't he talk like a human being?
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Even like girls like Twilight and it's the brooding vampire.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
I know something about that.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Like a tea, each girl just loves you, know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (45:01):
I like Tom because he was he was so wild
and crazy.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
I love Tom PRIs because he's not Tom Cruise.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Yeah, very much, Tom Cruise. Yeah. Is that line? That
that one line that he gives and he's like, why
should I know these things?
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (45:16):
So good? I love that screams at him like that.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Kirsten dun I know, she's such a good little actress.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
She is good. Yeah, I'm happy that I got to
see that movie for the first time. Man, I didn't
sleep on it any longer, even though what is said,
how long was it? Thirty something years? Thirty year old movie?
Speaker 3 (45:31):
Or sometimes there's a lot of movies I haven't seen.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
That's true. That's true. So well, we'll have to let
you guys know what happens on our our next adventures here.
But that's pretty much what we've had cooking and what
we've done. So you know, if you're looking for something
fun to do, I recommend Salem. I think it's a
lot of fun. It's going to start getting busier.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Our next uh scary trip, I guess should be to
either New Orleans, yeah, sleepy Hollo.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Which I don't think oh would be easy for me,
but it's.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Just like I want to go there, but I really
want to go to New Orleans again and right because
I was Anne Rice fiend for a while.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Yep, And you just have to if you're an Rice.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
But I think like the next like spooky ish thing
that we're going to be doing is eventually this is
months from now, but I think we're going to go
to Galveston tech Les. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
We are so love Galveston, so I think very I
think people don't really realize that.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Yeah, so we'll have to give you guys a report
on whatever we do there. I don't know. We don't
have anything spooky planned or lined up at this point,
so there, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
But I don't know about investigating anything.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Yeah, I don't know about that either, but we could
at least super hardcore yep, that's true. And we are
connected to that one woman who does tours there, so yeah,
we could potentially do that. Who knows. Anyway, that's all
we have for this one, guys. Thank you guys for
tuning in and listening and giving us downloads and everything.
We appreciate all of the support and everything like that.
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And that's it, right, Yeah, I think that's all we got, guys,
Thanks for the listening. This is on behalf of Mitra
and myself. I forgot how it ended. The show on
behalf of Mitra and myself, white people. We'll catch you
on the next episode of Unrefined
All right, it's another episode of Unrefined for you guys.
DJ's here, so is Metra that we were excited if
you couldn't tell, we're very, very excited because we were
a fresh off of a little summer vaca. Right, it's
like we're in school vacation. This is how we spent
our summer vacation and we had a lot of fun.
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But thank you guys so much for listening, and thanks
to h everybody just started. We just got a bunch
of new followers on Instagram as.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Well, so you know, the memes are meaning hard for us.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
That's right. The stupider you post, the more people you get, apparently.
So there you have it. But we're back and we're
veryfreshed a little bit, and we are fresh off of
a trip to Salem, Massachusetts, which you guys know, we
love that place and there's a lot of things there
and we're going to talk all about that, plus a
couple of the other things that we've done on our
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summer vacation. That's right. So anyway, but yeah, what did
we do before Salem?
Speaker 3 (01:14):
We went to Alice Cooper concert. Yes, is second concert
I've ever been to in my life and what was
the first concert Alice Cooper.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
That's all right, you've been into concerts.
Speaker 3 (01:24):
Neither one of them was of my choice.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yeah, I said we're going to Alice Cooper and you
were like, okay, but you had fun?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Yeah, I did.
Speaker 3 (01:32):
The first it was a lot more like theatrical. The
second one not so much, maybe like more towards the end.
So it was a little bit bummer because we took
my teenage son as well with us this time, and
I was kind of like hyping it up and then
it wasn't and I was like, sorry.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
It is fun though, because Alice Cooper does do some
fun things. Yeah, you know, he brings.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Out like a seventy six year old man parading around
leather pants.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
It is fun, it is. And his guitar player, Nita Strauss,
is so good. I watched her play guitar all night,
like Eddie van Halen everybody did. But I like going
to see Alice Cooper anytime that I can. I'm gonna
do that fun. He does the song with Jason and
that's fun. And then Jason comes out and kills somebody
with a machete and everything. It's great.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Then they chop his head.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Off they chop his head off, the big Frankenstein comes
out and everything and anybody who's a child of the
nineties like we are, besides Mitra, because I don't think
she's seen this movie. Has seen Wayne's World, and that's
where he was first introduced.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I have seen Wayne's World, okay, but it was like
when it first came out, and I've seen it once,
so I don't remember anything about it.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
I mean, that's the first time that I was ever
introduced to Alice Cooper was because Wayne and Garth went
to him.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
Honestly, like, probably didn't even register that he was an
actual famous person.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
You. Yeah, so we went to an Alice Cooper concert.
We also saw the blockbuster hit of the summer, Deadpool
and Wolverine. Where's it Wolverine and Deadpool? I think it's Wolverpool.
It's Deadpool and Wolverine.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Don't even know.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Well, it's got a bad I wasn't sure which one
had the market.
Speaker 2 (03:03):
It's a Deadpool movie.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
It is a Deadeyes a Green movie.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Too's in love with Hugh jacks I love Hugh Jackman.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
He's a man.
Speaker 2 (03:11):
So that was it was.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
On the It was on the list of things to do.
Like when we're trying to come up with things to do,
I said, Deadpool Woverine.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Is because I'm here visiting BJ right now. Usually I'm
in Texas. Yeah, but I'm here for a little while
in New York.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Land and we're going to see dead Pool Woverine. Now,
I would have seen it again if there was time,
But busy lives and also long movie. I would say
it's on par So if you haven't seen it yet,
i'd say it's on par with the other Deadpool movies.
And it's a nice little nod to all of the
old X Men movies as well. It was fun. It
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was a lot of fun. Movies are always good, and
we got to see like that. You get to see
like a lot of characters that you haven't seen in
a really long time too. I'm not going to spoil
anything because I'm not a spoiler, but there's a lot
of there's a lot of really cool things in that.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
We seen it. I've already seen it.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I know it like a billion dollars or something already. Right,
we're talking about this late came out end of July.
This is the middle of August. Now we're already in
the middle of August. I know, I just like, looked
at this.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
It's been so nice here.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
The weather has been so nice here in New York,
like in the seventies. Back in Texas were in the hundreds.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
And I'm like, I don't want to go back.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Yeah, the suffocating heat. Yeah, so wow, it's been nice. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:29):
And then last weekend we went to Salem.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Oh I was going to say, where do we go?
Last weekend? Salem?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
We went to Salem.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Ye been wanting to go back. My son loves it there,
and so I was like, we got to go this summer.
So we did a little mini trip there.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Yeah, it wasn't long. We only like we knew exactly
what we wanted to do while we were.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
Last time we went, we went in October. We went
Columbus weekend like two years ago, and it was insanity.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
It was it two or three years ago?
Speaker 1 (05:03):
It was three years ago. No, it was age ago.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
No, it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
It was when they first opened it back up after
COVID and they had record breaking numbers and the mayor
was like, its telling people stop coming to sale and
we cannot support the crowds anymore. Yeah, And so that
was the first time they had these like insane oh
like crowds or whatever, because I had been there with
my both my sons yea years before when they were
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real little, and it was just like normal amount of
people like that you would see at any given time
of the year. They trick or treated, we did the parade, everything,
and it was just very minimal amount of people.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
It was it was like it was Marty Brawl.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
When we went last time.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
I would say, you didn't get to get into any
of the like the Witch Museum or anything, even though
I had been there previously. At the Witch Museum, we
didn't get to go in with the kids now that
they're older.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
They went when they were younger and they didn't remember anything.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
We didn't need to do much of the things that
required UH tickets in advance. Last summer there in October,
which I would highly recommend, Like listen, if you want
to go to Salmum in October and you want to
go there for the Halloween vibes and everything, then might's fun.
Go for it. It is fun, but just realize that
it is going to be very busy and is going
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to take over.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
I mean, there was.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Lines to get into stores just to get in and
you had to wear masks still at the time and everything.
And I don't know if they were letting limited people
in the stores because of social distancing.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Oh for sure. Yeah, I don't know if that was.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
How it would be normally, like during Halloween. I mean
it could be.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
A just for like too many people in the store,
for thieves and things like that.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
But prior to going there and in October, we had
gone there.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
In April and there wasn't hardly anyone there. Oh, it
was old and it was great.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
It was great. It was awesome. That was a lot
of fun, and April was fun, and now we just
went in the middle of summer, which is a totally
different thing.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
There was a good amount of people walking around to
a restorer, yeah, but it was obviously nothing like.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
A lot of people from like way outside of the
United States too. There were a lot of people there
from other countries, which I thought was very interesting. So
this whole like hype about Salem has definitely gone beyond
the United States and everything like that. Like, what do
you think is the trigger of that? Do you think
it's just like people being like more into like that
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style or.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
No, I think probably people are coming to the United States.
I know, like people who come from like you know,
other countries, they have longer periods of vacation time. You know,
it's not like in the US how we do vacation
and they'll come to the US and they'll like be
here for like a month literally, So they're just touristing everywhere.
So if they go to Boston, right, they're going to
do Boston things and then naturally filter into Salem and
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do some things in Salem.
Speaker 1 (07:39):
So and it's not that far out of they have.
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Right, someone's coming over for England just to go to Salem.
They're doing a bunch of things. It's just one of
their stops on their list.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
That's right, that's true, That's what I assume. I will
say that of the three periods of the year that
we have been there, while October is cool because you're
in the thick of it, April was great because it's
very separated from everything else.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
It was cold to walk around.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Yeah, it was, it was. The April is the best one.
That time of year, early spring is definitely the best
time to be there. I would say if you're planning
going to plan on going there, then you would probably business.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
So that was your first visit to the Witch Museum.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah, how did you like it? So the Salem Witch Museum,
and we have had people from the Witch Museum on
the show before and they kind of talked about it
and everything like that. So I was under the impression
that it was going to be more museum ish and
it's actually more theater based, which I thought was really interesting.
It is very old school though, Like the whole thing
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with that is wild. If you've been there before, you
know what I'm talking about. If you haven't, then you'll
be surprised the way that I was surprised that you're
seeing like this kind of theatrical show that's going on before.
It's the whole story. Yeah, it talks about everything. It
talks about like why people were the way they were
backed and then why it started and everything.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
When they really don't have much museum.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
There's like no museum. Yeah, there's no museum. It's the
Salem which playhouse is what they should call it. With
Disneyland style animatronics.
Speaker 4 (09:17):
That are not animatron If you are familiar with what
was the Hall of Presidents at Disneyland or the Carousel
of Progress, I would say that it's very similar to
that minus them moving around.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
That's exactly what it was. Yeah, So I do think
they need a better formula for it. I think it was. Yeah,
I liked it. I think it was okay. I liked
the narration. But if I could have just sat there
with like my eyes closed and listened, I think I
would have liked it better than having to like sit
you sit in like this this center of the thing,
and then the production or whatever goes on all around you.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
We okay, just say this. Okay.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
We get into and it's a theater and you're supposed
to sit in the center on these red st duels,
and it's a lady on the microwave microphone microwave pikewave
on the microphone, and she said, please everybody, for the
best viewing option, please sit in the center of the
red stools. And Bja goes and sits on this bench
on the perimeter, and the lady is just repeating it
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a thousand times, and me and my son are just
looking at Bjay, like, what do you not hear this
loud voice. It's literally telling you off the bench.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
I thought she.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Was like specifically talking to you or just like looking
at you, like, what are you know?
Speaker 1 (10:35):
And as it filled into there was a lot more
people there. I was surprised though, because like, there were
a lot of people going to the Sandwich Museum and.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
That's the thing you do there.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
I guess it's the thing I know.
Speaker 3 (10:47):
But the big huge Gothic looking castle and church building
that you got to.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Go back dab in the middle of it. It's so
well known there, you know. When we talked to I
believe her name is Rachel, she was very educated on
the subject and everything like that. Personally, for me, I
was a little bit let down that it wasn't more
focused on history and it was a lot more focused
on being theatrical and trying to be a little bit
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into scary stuff, which I think, if anybody knows who's
listened to the show in the past, I am way
more into the historical side of things and lesson to
trying to make thinks scary.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
I had to make it.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
I don't think the theatric part tried to make it scary.
I think they explained it and at the end, you know,
they were like, you know that girl that accused the
Rebecca nurse and everything apologized to the family and stuff
like that.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
They had a giant devil statue come out at the
beginning with glowing eyes. I think that's trying to make
it a little bit scary. I don't know. I don't
think that there's a lot of history behind it. I
think that it's a a place that wishes it was
a museum. I think they do a good job at
the end of it for the little ten minute thing
that you have after the production that takes you through
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like a I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
Know, three of which is pop culture.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Yeah, history of witches through time and everything like that.
I that's a that's more history based and everything like that.
But you know, it's.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
It was pretty museum at the end. I was like,
what is this?
Speaker 1 (12:17):
If you're going to go to it, go to it.
Because it's one of those things that I have to do.
I have to go to it. It was fun. Off
my bucket list.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
That was the second time I've been to it. The
first time I went my son that was with us
this time. Yeah, he was like three years old in
a stroller and he threw up during the theatrical part
and so we didn't get to go see there's your review.
There's Yeah, he threw up everywhere. Yeah, we tried to, like,
you know, pay attention to what was going on, and
we really couldn't. And then when we went to go
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to the walk around museum part, which was kind of
a joke, we never got to make it there because
I was like, we got to go, I'm covered in vomit.
I do have a I didn't get to see that part.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
I have a bit of an issue with a place
that has a museum where the gift shop is bigger
than the actual museum.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
It's a great gift shop too, and you don't have
to go to the actual museum.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
You can just go into the gift shop. In case
you want to bypass.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
That, that's true, you can just go into the little
gift shop and you can probably pick up a book
and learn about just as much as.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
But yeah, a lot of But it was fun knowing
you got to see it.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I like it.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I like the whole theatrical thing.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Okay, meta recommends, I say, if you got time, do it,
but you don't have to. Yeah, that's what I say.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
So the other thing we did there, yes, what was
it called historic Haunted walking?
Speaker 1 (13:28):
So yeah, sorry, So we decided now We've gone on
several uh walking ghost tours in the past now, and
by far our favorite is the Saint Louis Yes, yeah,
the one with from seeghost dot com. Anybody who's listening
and wants to go on a great ghost tour, it
is in the Saint Louis area. Ghost dot com killers
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you're into true crimes. Our friend Mark does a fantastic
historical walking ghost tour. And when I say historical, I
mean he talks about the history of everything, behind everything
and doesn't just try to make it a creepy thing
that he does. It's educational, it's entertaining, and it's spooky,
and I think that those are creepy. It checks off
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the three things that I love about that and he
is just really good at doing it. It's the best
one we've been on by far. We've been in other ones.
We've been in San Antonio. We've gone on one and
we weren't so thrilled with that ghost Star either. It
was fine, but this one was by far, I think
the worst one we've ever been on. Of all the
ghost tours we've done. It was the Historical Salem walking Tours.
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It's the big Purple Sign it's down by the trolley depot.
If you're walking in Salem, that's where you do it.
And our host was a guy named I don't even
know what schmiegel. I don't know. It was Stash Dash,
a guy named Stash my first red flag and my
major issue. And now listen, I know a lot of
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these walking tours are performance based. I know that, okay,
But when he leads in and says, I'm not really
big into the history. I am a stand up comedian,
I'm like, okay, so what have we gotten ourselves into here?
Speaker 3 (15:09):
But I thought he would be a good storyteller, because
those medians are storyteller.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
He was bad, terrible storytelling.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I thought that there was moments of that where he
was funny when he was interacting with people that were
on the tour. I thought that it was funny and everything,
but he was way leaning into things that were not.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
He just didn't, I don't.
Speaker 3 (15:31):
Know, really tell a cohesive story.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Time he was saying anything, it was like he just
didn't have his thoughts together correctly.
Speaker 1 (15:38):
And it just was not the way that this this
tour is described is called like ghostly footsteps or something
like that. Yeah, and you know it's supposed to be
a lantern too, And no, it wasn't suposed to be
a lantern.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
It was a lantern.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
No, it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
I was expecting a lantern.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Well, I don't know why you were expecting a lantern.
There was no mention in the lantern. I thought it
was I think you just had that in.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Your I saw other people walking with them offering a lantern.
Different companies doing a ghost tour, so it's going to
be hard to like if you're going there to find
one that's good. I'll say the reason probably not only
just the tour company, but from worker to worker it's
going to be different.
Speaker 1 (16:18):
Well, and they also just did that new thing in
Salem now where each place has to pay three hundred
dollars per tour guide. So it's a lot. But the
reason why we went with this particular tour company was
because we wanted to support a local Salem business and
they've been doing it.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
For twenty plus that has one in every city, exactly
a mom and pop type situation, right, That's why I went.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
And this was the most highly reviewed one on Google,
Like I did my research and everything like that. We've
been to Salem a couple of times now, and we decided,
let's do one of these walking tours and maybe we'll
learn a little bit. Now we did, I will say
this to their credit. They did take us into some
places where I wouldn't have normally thought to go. Yeah,
we learned some stuff that we didn't know and everything
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like that. But it's sold as a historical tour with
sprinklings of spooky and everything like that. This guy was
like encouraging everybody to try and take pictures of what
was going to be ghosts. He's like, take.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
Pictures, you give explanations on things and where things came
from and stuff.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
So it was just what I did not like, okay,
is that he kept telling everyone to take pictures of
buildings and make sure you get good pictures of the windows.
Windows is where you always see the ghosts and everything
like that. Now we know, just from going out and
doing paranormal investigations that when you take a picture of
a window and what is it paradalia or something like that,
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there's yes, you did have that happen on this tour, Okay.
Speaker 3 (17:49):
I had it happen, yes, but it was a face
and my son took the same picture and there's no
face in his ya in the same window pane at
that Grimshaw house right by the burying point point it's
Charter Cemetery.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
Yeah, the char Charter Street Cemetery, the old burial point
or whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
But the thing is is when you take pictures of windows,
and anybody who does paranormal investigations will tell you that
there's going to be reflections and light's going to refract
and all this other stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
Well that's why you pick multiple And what's annoying is
I didn't because, Okay, a weird thing happens.
Speaker 1 (18:21):
We're out of practice.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
It is, so a.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
Weird thing happened to me while we were there. We
go immediately this guy when he introduces and talks himself, like,
my brain shut off immediately.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Did not like his demeanor or anything.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
So I was just like I kind of almost just
like turned my brain off, and I was like, this
isn't going to be good.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
You were like that TikTok off it and it's like
I've seen what I needed to see. Yeah, immediately, I.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Know that's exactly what I went through my head. So
I kind of like wrote this guy off right away.
So the first thing we do is we He talked
forever too, before we even got.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
To it was brutal. It was pretty brutal.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Often let's go.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
The thing is like, he talked forever, but it wasn't
anything about the tour. He talked about himself.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Yeah, and it was just boring. I was like, let's go.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
I don't need your back.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
So anyway, So the first place we go is the
Charter Street Cemetery, which is the big one. It's the
one seen in hocus Pocus. I believe they do a
shot of it or do something with it or whatever.
Think it looks like a fake cemetery, like it looks
like a movie set because it's just so old.
Speaker 1 (19:20):
It's where the memorial is for all the witch trial.
Speaker 3 (19:23):
That's so anyway, like that, we go over there, we
don't go inside of it because I don't think they're
allowed to on these tours.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
I was actually surprised at all the places that tours
were not allowed to go into. Like you have more
access just walking around on the street on your own
than you do with a walking tour, which I was
surprised by.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
So we go over there and he's just talking, talking, talking,
and I'm just like barely listening. He's talking about the
things that I already know about because anybody can read
it on theline, right, So I already know these stories
that he's telling or whatever. And so I'm just like
whenever I'm bored, so I'm taking a picture of my son.
A few times, I'm taking a picture of the house
next door. It's called like the I think Grimshaw House
or whatever. I'm taking of that in like different angles
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and stuff and taking a picture of him. And it
was lightning a lot in the background, like far background
that night, which was nice, gave it a nice spooky
atmosphere or whatever. Yeah, and I see the lightning like flashes,
and I had a few pictures of him and I
was like, oh, this is cool. Here's one where the lightning,
you know, like I said, far in the background, you
can see like the light is the skylight lit up?
And the next picture it wasn't. And then he the
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tour guy, says something about does anyone believe in ghosts
or anything like that, and I just barely caught him
saying that no.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
No, no, He didn't ask that anybody's believes in ghosts.
He says, has anybody ever here seen ghosts or being
a ghost. And I stood there with my hands at
my side, looking at the ground because I just didn't
want to talk to him, and I and you weren't
paying attention.
Speaker 2 (20:48):
I wasn't paying attention, like your.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Son puts up both of his thumbs and points at
both of us to him like he's like, these two
right here have seen ghosts. And he points out He's
like you two have seen.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
It, and I just said and I was, it's just
kind of like that dear common the headlights. I didn't
know what to say because I was literally looking at
a picture, not paying attention to what he was saying.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
And I was like, yeah, we were like not quite.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
We do like paranormal stuff.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
We have like a podcast, We've done some investigations or whatever.
But like as I'm saying this, I am like, the
weirdest thing happened. So I'm like saying this to him,
and like this weird blue light is like going like
outlining half his body and I'm just like looking at
this light.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
And I'm like confused.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
So he's saying it and I'm almost I can't even
like describe, like I don't even know what I'm saying
I'm saying words, but I'm not really paying attention to
like what I'm saying, so I don't know if I'm
just babbling like an idiot, because I'm seeing this blue
outline on him and it was just weird, and I
was just like, that was weird. I don't even know
what I saw, and so I didn't know I had
taken this picture of what I think it looks like
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a face in the in that house, and it wasn't
until I went back, and it was at the same
time that like I took the picture of the house,
saw that face, and then I turn over to him
and then I see this weird blue outline on just
like where his shoulder is down to like maybe his waist.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
And we did we go anywhere before we went on
the ghost tour to eat or anything like that. I know,
we were just that we didn't go to Ori we did.
That wasn't when we went to O'Neill's. Was that O'Neills
that we go there before?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:19):
We did? That was before the ghost tour, Oh it was,
wasn't it a.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
Few hours before We went back and relaxed for a
little bit and let our food settle and then walked
around on the tour.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Oh maybe you're right. Yeah, I was going to say,
but we did have some drinks, so I don't have alcohol.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
It was a while because we didn't want to go
right after.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, and I only had one drink and I didn't
even feel buzz from it.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
It was like nothing.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
There's some one thing that you guys need to understand
about Mitra is that she does not drink for the taste.
He drinks to feel it, and that's it.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
He drinks to feel it.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
What do you I guess because you want to have
a buzz.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
If I want a delicious drink, I'll drink a diet
coke like I don't need to have like a cocktail
of juices, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (23:01):
By the way, the side note, there is a new
trend online where people are doing this diet coke challenge
to see if you can tell the difference between all
these different diet cokes. Do you think you could pass that?
Speaker 3 (23:11):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Easily?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
Yeah, what do you mean? All these different diet cokes?
Speaker 1 (23:14):
So they'll have like a bottle of coke to drink
out of a can of coke, and then the various
fountain cokes from like a Wendy and McDonald's.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Tell you a fountain because they taste well.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
You have to identify which restaurants.
Speaker 3 (23:26):
I don't eat a lot of fast foods, so I
wouldn't be able to do that.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
But you know what they.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Do McDonald's because there's is probably probably mcdonald'suntain drinks.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
But yeah, I don't think I could pick out the
other ones though I don't. I don't eat.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Also never eat anything fast food, and I'm definitely not
getting drinks there.
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Yeah, I think that there's a consistent drink that we
both drink a lot of this, probably diet coke, well
water Diet Cokes a close second.
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Okay, So anyways, back to the tour. Yes, so we're
going we're continuing on the tour or whatever. And I,
you know, that was a weird thing that happen. But
I'm also still writing this guy off. I don't really
like him, and I felt like, I honestly felt like
he could feel that I was.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Annoyed by him.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
I think he could feel.
Speaker 3 (24:06):
Hanging back and not really like liking what he was
saying and not paying attention. He was just going on
and on about tai Chi and all this stuff, and
it was really aggravating me.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
He brought us to by He brought us to the
to the Ropes Mansion, which is what's our phase, his
house from pocus Pocus. What's her name Abigail? No, it's
not Abigail.
Speaker 4 (24:24):
No, that was the vampire that was the vampire movie Alison,
Alison Alison's house in hocus Pocus.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
He brings us there very famous house right near the
Witch House in Salem, which is Alison's home in the
movie White One, and it's it's I guess you were
telling me, like the three sisters that are from the
Ropes Mansion are the like vaguely based on the Sanders
you make.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
When we went there with Joel, we were just joking
around about it. That's the real thing. He was saying
something about it. We were just joking around. Oh okay,
I got but I don't know if like he had
seen it somewhere, but we were just going I don't know,
but anyways, we were doing like.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
So we went to the garden, yeah, the gardener.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
Surprise, we were allowed to go there, and.
Speaker 1 (25:07):
Tai Chi in the garden with us. He's like, let's
all feel everybody's energy.
Speaker 3 (25:11):
But he was like, let's like, let's get in a
circle and make energy. And I get what he was doing,
you know, when he was trying to make it interactive
and I was.
Speaker 1 (25:17):
Trying to make it interact with it was also like
but he.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Was like, do you feel the energy? Do you feel
the magnet magnets?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
And I said wait, wait, wait, wait stop, it is
dead quiet. No one is saying anything, and Mitri goes, no,
I feel the energy. I feel negative energy or somebody
I said, I.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Feel negative energy. I'm non magnetizing right.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
Yeah, because that's what they kept saying. He's like, are
you magnetized? Are you guys magnetized right now?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Magnetizing right now?
Speaker 1 (25:44):
Feeling the magnetism between is like, you know he has this.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Okay, there is I'm from Texas. I'm from San Antonio.
There was three other people there. There were like college
age students from off from Austin, Texas, which is like
an hour and a half away from me, and we're
I was like, god, that's so random. But they were
like hook line and sinker with everything he said.
Speaker 1 (26:03):
They bought it every.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
Thing he said.
Speaker 3 (26:05):
And me and BJ are rolling his eyes when he's
telling us, like all these things and everything.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
So like my eyes at half of everything. Everything you say.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
So we're doing the tai chi and we just barely
stood in a circle and put hands up to each
other and they're like, oh, I.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Can feel it.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
They're like, yeah, I can feel it. So that's why
I said, no, I don't feel it. I'm I'm magnetized
right now. Because I was like, get out of your
own heads, people, like that's what I was thinking. So
then he was going on and on about this haunted
bench over there and how haunted it is and such
energy over there.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
And seen apparitions on it and everything's.
Speaker 3 (26:38):
On this picture over there at the bench and everything.
I had my EMF with me and I had all
my ghost hunting stuff with me just in case. So
the group goes on me and BJ hung back and
I was like, let me wait a second, get the
MF dead, silent on the as.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Let's go.
Speaker 3 (26:53):
Because he was saying, let's bring energy here. That was
the whole thing with the tai chi, like let's bring
some energy and draw the energy to us.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
The whole thing with his tour where he started out
was like he's like, we're going to walk the street
to Salem, you guys are going to experience paranormal activity
and people have felt it and seen it on my
tours and everything like that. Okay, so but whatever.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Something did, something else did happen to me. So not
only did I see the blue thing, so here I am,
I'm bashing this guy and I'm saying like his tourist crap,
and things actually happened, because this is how it happens
with me. I'll be negative about something but then like
things actually start to happen. Yeah, this happened at the
jail too, where I was basically like, this is stupid,
nothing's even happening. Lavaka County Jail, Laua County Jail where
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I was I literally said, outlined under my breath, this
is stupid, nothing's even happening.
Speaker 2 (27:40):
And then it was like all hell broke blues.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Yeah, and then a lot of activity happened all that.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
So, yeah, when he brought us to whatever, like street alley, whatever.
Speaker 3 (27:50):
And he was talking about Houdini and I don't remember
exactly where we were, we walked from that place over
to where it was the town hall area where another
location where hocus Pocus they'd put the Yeah, the fell
on me.
Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yeah, was saying that. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
So as we're walking from one location to the other,
and it's just literally almost like diagonally like across the street.
I had a tote. It wasn't a purse, it was
a tote, and the tote was like long, like halfways
to like my thigh area. It felt like the bottom
corner of the tote like somebody pulled on it. Yeah,
And I immediately turned because I thought it was like
BJ or my son. And I really felt like my
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son because when he was little he did that stuff
to me all the time. He would pull on my purse. Mom, Mom,
that's what it felt like. And I turned and it
was like nobody was there, and I was like hmm,
and I kind of jumbled the things around in my purse,
thinking did something my purse just shift while I was walking,
and like nothing felt like that.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
And I was like, that's that was weird.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Because I've never had that happen before. I've never had
my shirt pulled or my purse pulled or my hair pulled,
like people talk about it all the time. I never
had that sensation before. So of course I tell PJ
about it and he's like, that didn't really happen.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
He couldn't slave me because because I am far more
skeptical at this point, and Mitra is way more the believer.
If we're going Molder and Scully, yeah.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
She's done, like yeah, yeah, on everything.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
It's because I just see through it at this point.
I don't know. I mean, I do believe it. We've
experienced some interesting things that I can't explain and everything. Yeah,
there's a lot out there that is just byes.
Speaker 3 (29:22):
Yea, but you should believe me, of all people when
I say, like it's something weird happened, I believe you
don't believe me. Wrong anyway, Okay, that was the highlights
of the tour.
Speaker 1 (29:34):
Basically, Yeah, I would say, you know, support a local business.
It's fine. People really like it. They do a good
job of doing like you know, campfire ghost story stuff
while walking around Salem. But for us, who have you know,
gone into locations and sun research that we just.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Know too much about?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
I think, yeah, I think to too many people that
have for us at this point, like we are a
little bit ye ruined for things.
Speaker 1 (30:06):
I think so, But so we did that and then
now like what other things that we did there which
we highly recommend if you're going to sail on, these
are places that you need to go to because they
are really fun and they are awesome. First of all,
while it's still there, Which City Thrift is a really
really they're right on uh Essex Street. It's yeah, right
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right next to the Witch House. And the Witch House
is another thing that you have to do while you
go there.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
That's the famous one that's black that everybody takes picture from.
Speaker 1 (30:41):
No witch is involved there, No witch is involved that.
They just call it the witch House. Uh. But that
The Wich City Thrift is a great store, locally owned
and operated. They are moving, they aren't going to be
on Essex Street by the end of this year, but
if you can get there beforehand, it's just like so
many weird, awesome, crazy things in there. Metros found a
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bunch of Halloween blow mold in there. It's just it's
really cool. So I would highly recommend going there. Another
spot that I personally enjoy going into is the Harrison's
Comic Book Shop. That's also street. It's nothing to do
with spooky stuff, but I love me some comic books.
As you said, we went and saw Deadpool and Wolverine,
so that's a great place too. They've got a lot
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of really interesting pop culture things in there. The Trolley
Depot too. The Trolley Depot is a really really great store.
Speaker 3 (31:33):
That's I guess that would be my favorite souvenir shop.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
I think it's a great souvenir shop. I think it's
just a great little interesting store to go in that
has a lot of everything in there, from Salem souvenirs
to Christmas ornaments to just like weird interesting things like that.
I would highly recommend the Trolley Depot. I really like
that store a lot, and they're super friendly in there,
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which was great. Another place that we like to go
now because it's the second time that we went, is
that O'Neill's Irish Pub on Washington Street. I think that
is a great place. Awesome food, amazing atmosphere, very friendly service.
That waitress uh was super friendly, she was fell fell
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in love with Mitra. She called us babe a lot,
a whole lot. But that was great. And they make
their own beer there and I drink that every time
we go and it's fantastic.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
And the Seaport, we've been there three times.
Speaker 1 (32:38):
Rody's Seaport is our That was the third time that
we went, and the third time that was an absolute home.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Ra was just dreaming about going there and eating against.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Yeah, they do a hat I think it's haddock. They
do a hattock sandwich, and he.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Said it's the best sandwich ever. Yeah, I don't like fish.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Everything that we've ever gotten there has been delicious. Every
single thing we've ever gotten.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
There is based non fish items.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yes, they do don't like fish. Metro and I got
the chicken tenders because we're because we're twelve years old,
but we got the chicken tenders. But they also had
great sweet potato fries, which were good. We've gotten other
things all we've been there, and.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
It's just it's good.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
And it's really close by the water, so if you're
going over into the little lighthouse over there, it's literally
right there.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, and I cannot remember the name of it, but
we went to This is the second time that we've
gone to that like smoothie place. It's like a health
food store. It's right down the road from the from
which city Thrift and I apologize for not being able
to know the name. The sign of it is like
a big purple circle. Yeah. Yeah, but we we've gone
there now twice and it's delicious. It's just like a
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nice quiet escape oasis type nice.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
We have like couches you can sit on really smoothie
or your tea or whatever.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
Really good, really really good Joe Hoo coffee, Joho coffee too.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
Oh yeah, you've had that a few times.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
I cannot. I can't go to Salem and not have
that coffee.
Speaker 3 (34:00):
Which is also by the little lighthouse over there on
that area.
Speaker 1 (34:03):
Yeah, over there, like the waterfront by sale where the
Friendship Salemon is and stuff like that. So if you're
over there, get that problem.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
That stupid friendship.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Stalem is like under construction every single time. Do you
like an old ship? What did it need to do
repairs on you? Man? I just want to look at you.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
So we stayed.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
So we stayed at an Airbnb. We've done an airbnb before.
The first time we went, it was like a house
from the sixteen hundreds.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
It was amazing.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Barbie Wire if you're listening you follow us on Instagram.
We still appreciate that air I.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Wanted to stay at her place again, but it's not available.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
That's because it's the best Airbnb ever and the greatest
location that you could be in right next to Bunghole Liquors.
Speaker 2 (34:45):
Yeah, you have to gowhere.
Speaker 1 (34:48):
Just go to Bunghole Liquors. If you go to second place.
Speaker 3 (34:50):
To the one we stayed at, it was Christy right.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
Christy was the Crombie House.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
The Crombie House built in eighteen oh five.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (34:58):
Now, I didn't know anything about the house being haunted
or anything, and I don't know anything about the other
airbnb about it being haunted.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
We didn't have anything happen there.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
But when I was at this house, there was when
I was in the bathroom, there was a weird knock
and I couldn't tell if it was like on the
door or on the wall, but it was like a knock,
and I kind of thought it was either BJ or
my son knocking. Yeah, And I asked him, thinking somebody
was just trying to play a joke or just knock
or something. I said, I asked him, did y'all knock?
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And Everyone's like, no, we didn't knock or anything. And
I was like hmm. So, like I said, I had
all my ghost hunting stuff with us, and I told BJ,
let's just do a little sparro box session, you know.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
So wed Yeah, So we did, and.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
We got two names, Philip and Mike, and apparently there
was a third there was, like I mentioned that a
third one was there, but they.
Speaker 2 (35:51):
Didn't want to give a name or anything.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
But I was just trying to We're just trying to
ask like questions about like kind of just to.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Like validate anything.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
Yeah, I asked, because the room is painted, like, the
place is really cool. It's kind of got like a
weird Victorian like goth theme going on or something.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
It's like romantic scary.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
Yeah, scary I interview with the vampire.
Speaker 2 (36:15):
Yeah, but it's like postelles and stuff.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah, it's that type of thing.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
A lot of flowers, but then there's a skull on
the flower, you know, like that thing.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
So anyways, there's a.
Speaker 3 (36:23):
Door and it's painted purple, and I'm right next to
it and I said, BJ's the one that was listening
to the spirit box with the headphones on.
Speaker 2 (36:29):
I said, what color is the door?
Speaker 1 (36:30):
Now? To listen, we have the spear box of the
headphones on, but we were not we didn't have cam yeah, yeah,
and we didn't have a blindfold on or anything. It
was just kind of imprompt too, right, And I listen.
I only put I put the earbuds in just so
I could hear it more clearly, because I couldn't like a.
Speaker 3 (36:46):
Thing with just it listening to it so we could
hear it, I couldn't make it. And yeah, it was
too hard, so you had to hear turn the volume
out loud enough.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
On those things.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
So anyways, anyways, it was purple, a purple door, and
I asked what color is this door?
Speaker 2 (37:01):
We get the answer purple.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, like straight up, like and I'm the one who
heard it, and it was clear. It was really cool.
Speaker 3 (37:08):
Yeah, we asked a few things, and I wish because
it was just like, let's do this real quick.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
We didn't report anything, but I think we asked.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Like we asked like you like is this your home?
Like do you know where you are? And things like that.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
And we got questions.
Speaker 3 (37:23):
It was it was like can you leave? And this
I think it said something like they were stuck there
they can't. Yeah, like there was a thing and then
we asked the names, like I said, we got the
first one was fill Up, the next one was Mike,
and then there was a mention of someone possibly the
else being there. But we didn't get the name of
that one. And also it felt like they were kind
of joking around and didn't really want to like talk,
(37:46):
but it wasn't like mean or menacine or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (37:49):
And we think you.
Speaker 3 (37:51):
Asked, I asked what year you is it? Or what
year you died in? And you got eighty nine And
I said eighty nine? What, yeah, you know, like nineteen
eighty nine, Yeah, seventeen eighty nine.
Speaker 1 (38:04):
I never got We never had confirmation on that, So
eighty nine something somebody passed away or something like that.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah, And I oh, and I asked, do you look
out the window? Do you watch anybody out the window?
Do you look out the window? And I think he
said like the man, like he sees the.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Man up there, Yeah, something like that, which is funny
because I mean, we were staying on a pretty busy street.
We were staying on Crombie Street, right, Yeah, So we
were staying on Crombie Street and it was busy, like
there was traffic up and down it the entire time
we were there. There was people walking up and.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
There there was literally a construction worker outside the window. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
Yeah, that's why like when he said.
Speaker 1 (38:40):
The skeleton that greeted us too, the Giant a Giant.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
So anyways, we check out all the Airbnb and I
messaged the lady that runs it. I said, yeah, I
don't know if your place is haunted or anything, but
I had a weird knock on the bathroom door, and
I didn't want to.
Speaker 2 (38:57):
Tell her that we did a spearbox session house.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah, so because sorry, but I just told her.
Speaker 3 (39:05):
I didn't say any reference. I just said I got
the name Philip and Mike if that means anything to you.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
Yeah, And she.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Said, yes, the place was haunted and she has had
similar reports from other people, which yeah, And she didn't
say anything about the names, but she just said I've
had similar reports from other people. So I didn't get
any more detail on You've.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
Done a pretty decent job of finding us places that
potentially might be haunted.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Well it's old enough, that's true.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
But it's like the.
Speaker 3 (39:33):
Guy apparently I did a little research on him. That
whole section of street over there was a waterway apparently.
Oh really, yeah, that the street was actually a waterway
and he had a tavern there. Yeah, and it was
called like Cambrey's Combrey's Tavern.
Speaker 1 (39:50):
Or Robbie's Robby's tavern.
Speaker 2 (39:52):
There's a plane going by and I'm distracted.
Speaker 1 (39:55):
Yeah, I don't know if.
Speaker 3 (39:56):
The MIC's picking it up, but it's really loud.
Speaker 1 (39:58):
I doubt it.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
So anyways, and he lived in a in like because
he owned like the whole like plot of land or whatever,
and so he lived in one area.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
He had the tavern in another area. So all those houses.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
There, I'm not sure how old there are, how many
that are still there that maybe he owned in that area.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
So it wasn't just that house.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
I believe it was like the whole section. But then
I guess when they blocked off the water somehow, yep,
because the water came up really far before.
Speaker 1 (40:27):
We learned that on the Ghost that's ocean had come
all the way into the city of sandwhich I thought
was interesting.
Speaker 3 (40:32):
Yeah, So at some point, like the water whatever they
do to make it go back, that built the land
up or whatever, and that becomes a street and that
was then a private driveway going up to all his property.
But then it became a street and that's a teeny
tiny little street, so I can understand it being like
a driveway.
Speaker 2 (40:50):
So though that was that was interesting.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
Yeah, it was really cool. So the last thing that
we'll be doing on this, which we won't be able
to report on, is we're going to go see Prime
and Cohating Cambria, So another concert.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
And I don't know any Primus songs.
Speaker 1 (41:05):
You're in trouble then, yeah, you know any Coding Cambria songs.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
I don't even know if that's a group or a person.
Speaker 1 (41:12):
This should be an interesting time. Yeah, it'd be very interesting.
But yeah, that's it. That's a third Salem trip in
the books. We'll have to get back there again. I
don't know when we'll go back though.
Speaker 3 (41:23):
And that's the only time we've had any kind of
paranormal things happen in Salem. I've been there four times,
you've been there three and this was the only time
we've had any kind of paranormal.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
Yeah, yeah, that was it, just that one time.
Speaker 3 (41:35):
So I wouldn't expect ever if people are going to
see it.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
It's like when I when I go to Salem, I
I don't think of paranormal. Honestly, when I go to Salem,
I think of history. I think of tragedy. I think
of like a city that's embracing it's, uh, you know,
kind of horrible history. I guess making the best.
Speaker 3 (41:57):
Of uvenir shops and seeing a lot of crystals potions.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Yeah, yeah, every stop there sells the same thing. You
guys need to branch out a little bit more. I
don't need that many crystals, and I don't need that
much incense or tarot cards, So think of something else
to sell, right, I guess that's why.
Speaker 2 (42:12):
They shouldn't be get ringing rid of the Witch City Thrift.
Speaker 1 (42:15):
I know that's two beds. I hope that they opened
back up it will be Also biggest gripe I have
with Salem is the lack of bathrooms for people to use.
Speaker 2 (42:25):
Now.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
I understand if you're a restaurant or something like that,
you want to make sure that you're paying customers are
using it. But when the only bathroom available is the
mall is the Wich City Mall, and the men's room
was boarded up, literal board literally boarded up a literal
two like two by fours and plywood drilled into the walls,
(42:48):
I know, like I had like walking dead, don't open
dead inside, Like I told.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
You to go use a girls bathroom. Nobody was in there.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
I know it was crazy though, Like you know, so
Salem needs more access to public restrooms. They need to
like build some public restrooms.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
Like at a park, if you were to have like, oh,
you mean, like the.
Speaker 1 (43:07):
Giant park in the middle of the city.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
They have nice restrooms there.
Speaker 1 (43:12):
Should they should. Anyway, we like Salem, but they need
more places for you to pee pee. But I think
that's it. That's all we have.
Speaker 3 (43:23):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (43:23):
We also watched that Abigail movie too last night, which
is a vampire movie. I'm sure many of you listening
have seen it. What I said when I finished it
was that I thought it was a fun movie. It's
got a lot of really good actors and actresses in it.
I just like, don't know what I'm looking for at
this point when it comes to vampire.
Speaker 3 (43:44):
Also, he had never seen the Tom Cruise Brad Pitt
Interview with the Vampire.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
No, I watched that for the first time. Watch that
for the.
Speaker 3 (43:51):
First time, and then he watched like two days later, Abigail.
Speaker 1 (43:55):
Yeah, which one was better?
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Interview or Aigail.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Interview with the Vampire was better than Abagai? Yeah, because
I like traditional vampires and there are more traditional vampires
in Interview with the Vampire. So also made me realize
how much the people on True Blood kind of just
ripped off and run, which I had seen. I had
seen a lot of True Blood. I just watched that
(44:18):
whole season or a whole series. But I had never
seen an interview with the vampire. I was never I
was never an an Rice person. You're an an Rice person.
You love that movie, so you showed it to me.
The only thing I don't love is Brad Pitt. I
didn't think he was a very good actor in that movie.
I like, I like Tom Cruise.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
I had never seen anything with Brad Pitt in it.
That was my first introduction to Brad Pitt. And I
was like thirteen or something watching that movie. Totally in
love with Brad Pitt.
Speaker 1 (44:43):
After seeing that, and then after you watched it now
as an adult, are you like, why is he so robotic?
Why doesn't he talk like a human being?
Speaker 3 (44:51):
Even like girls like Twilight and it's the brooding vampire.
Speaker 2 (44:58):
I know something about that.
Speaker 3 (44:59):
Like a tea, each girl just loves you, know what
I mean?
Speaker 1 (45:01):
I like Tom because he was he was so wild
and crazy.
Speaker 2 (45:05):
I love Tom PRIs because he's not Tom Cruise.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
Yeah, very much, Tom Cruise. Yeah. Is that line? That
that one line that he gives and he's like, why
should I know these things?
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Do you know?
Speaker 1 (45:16):
So good? I love that screams at him like that.
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Kirsten dun I know, she's such a good little actress.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
She is good. Yeah, I'm happy that I got to
see that movie for the first time. Man, I didn't
sleep on it any longer, even though what is said,
how long was it? Thirty something years? Thirty year old movie?
Speaker 3 (45:31):
Or sometimes there's a lot of movies I haven't seen.
Speaker 1 (45:33):
That's true. That's true. So well, we'll have to let
you guys know what happens on our our next adventures here.
But that's pretty much what we've had cooking and what
we've done. So you know, if you're looking for something
fun to do, I recommend Salem. I think it's a
lot of fun. It's going to start getting busier.
Speaker 3 (45:51):
Our next uh scary trip, I guess should be to
either New Orleans, yeah, sleepy Hollo.
Speaker 1 (45:59):
Which I don't think oh would be easy for me,
but it's.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
Just like I want to go there, but I really
want to go to New Orleans again and right because
I was Anne Rice fiend for a while.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Yep, And you just have to if you're an Rice.
Speaker 1 (46:11):
But I think like the next like spooky ish thing
that we're going to be doing is eventually this is
months from now, but I think we're going to go
to Galveston tech Les. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (46:20):
We are so love Galveston, so I think very I
think people don't really realize that.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Yeah, so we'll have to give you guys a report
on whatever we do there. I don't know. We don't
have anything spooky planned or lined up at this point,
so there, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
But I don't know about investigating anything.
Speaker 1 (46:37):
Yeah, I don't know about that either, but we could
at least super hardcore yep, that's true. And we are
connected to that one woman who does tours there, so yeah,
we could potentially do that. Who knows. Anyway, that's all
we have for this one, guys. Thank you guys for
tuning in and listening and giving us downloads and everything.
We appreciate all of the support and everything like that.
(46:58):
And that's it, right, Yeah, I think that's all we got, guys,
Thanks for the listening. This is on behalf of Mitra
and myself. I forgot how it ended. The show on
behalf of Mitra and myself, white people. We'll catch you
on the next episode of Unrefined
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