Monsters on the Edge #118 Quantum Physics and the Skunk Ape with guest Tim Turner

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On the Edge Here on the Untold Radio Network. I
am your host of Barnaby Jones from Cryptid's Anomalies and
the Paranormal Society. We have an awesome show today for you.
I am super excited to talk about all this weird
stuff with bigfoot and skun capes with my guest. But
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and comments throughout the show, that's why I apologize. We
are just not in studio. But coming up, guys, if
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you to get. So September nineteenth and twentieth, Gay's, Illinois.
Then I'm headed down to the Van Meter Visitor Festival
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paranormal and investigating. And then we are going to be
doing a paranormal investigation of the library. This is going
to be Wednesday, October twenty ninth. Awesome, So come on
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Wisconsin May eighth through the tenth. That's what we got
coming up here for caps. So without any further ado,
let's get to my guest. All right, guys, today's show

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is pre recorded. Just a reminder, but my guest is
Tim Turner. He is from Florida. He is an experienced tracker,
lifelong hunter and woodsman, and Army veteran. He became a
bigfoot researcher in twenty nineteen while searching for the truth
in central Florida, using tracking skills to find areas of
activity to research. He has had encounters, found tree structures,

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found footprints ranging from six inches all the way up
to eighteen inches, and has found hair and compared them
to hairs from wild animals in Central Florida, as well
as domestic animals such as horses and cattle. He has
become skilled with game cameras, audio recorders, camcorders, go pro
thermal cameras, and the drone, sharing and teaching what he

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finds and his experiences on YouTube channel as well as
his Facebook group. He is recording reenactments, comparisons, and size videos,
as well as tracking survival research gear videos, using science
methods such as forensic and experiments, and studying and teaching

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techniques about quantum mechanics and how it plays a part
in sesquatch, skuncaper research and connects with the paranormal orbs
and even UFOs. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the show,
Tim Turner. Tim, Welcome to the show. Thanks for being here.

Speaker 6 (06:20):
Hello, thank you, thank you for having me own.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
Oh it is my pleasure. I am excited to talk
all about quantum mechanics and bigfoot and skun gapes today.
So I tell everybody you know, when I started my
research into Bigfoot, I threw everything out that you know.
I didn't want to read anything from researchers or anything.
I want to start at the ground and I started
researching the Great apes just just going through a rank, tanks,

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gorillas and stuff, And never in my wildest dreams did
I think that that would have led myself to being
able to explain string theory and quantum mechanics and the
fact that it's all tied together. So I am. I'm
super excited to talk to you and see what your
research has found as far as the stuff all goes
as well. So it's so awesome. Thank thanks Maria, Thank you.

Speaker 7 (07:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (07:09):
I kind of started out the same way. I started
out thinking basically from the TV shows and commercials and
stuff too, thinking these were flesh and blood animals out
there that somehow they wasn't getting caught on camera. After
a little while, I started realizing, this is not just
an ape or it's not just an ape or a
monkey out there running around. Yeah. So I actually started

(07:33):
out in the twenty nineteen, at the end of twenty nineteen,
so it's been right out six years now and I've
caught a lot of stuff out there in the woods.

Speaker 5 (07:43):
Yeah, awesome. Yeah, I didn't know what to expect when
I started this, you know, I stumbled upon it and
I'm like, I don't I don't know if this is
a you know if this exists or not. And I'm like,
I'm just gonna start with the grade apes and see
how much of this actually fits. And it's been a
wild ride.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Now.

Speaker 5 (07:59):
I also started the end of twenty nineteen, so officially
with CAPS we started, but I'd been doing paranormal and
stuff before that.

Speaker 7 (08:07):
But yeah, okay, awesome.

Speaker 5 (08:09):
Well let's see. You have a lot of videos and
pictures that you have sent me, so I don't know.
If there's something you want to start with, we can
pull that up to begin with. Otherwise, it looks like
we have a thermal image on the docket over here, so.

Speaker 6 (08:25):
Yeah, whatever you pull up first, I guess we'll just
start going through.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
Okay, the videos are at the end, I believe, So
this is what we got first.

Speaker 6 (08:35):
All right, So this is a thermal camera. This was
at nighttime. This was like eleven o'clock at night, and
I was actually out here in the deep in the
woods with a few other people and we were actually
doing one of the people had the bigfoot call blasters
they were trying, and I was actually I was actually
filming one of my friends he's had sightings before. I

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was standing and kind of back in the field filming him.
He went over off to the very edge of the woods,
and as I was filming him with the thermal camera,
I seen him kind of turn and start coming back
towards me kind of quick, and he stopped and turned
around to look, and then he kept coming towards me,
and I thought he just it was kind of odd

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the way he was walking. So he come over to
me and he said, hey, I just had a sight,
and he said he got over to the tree line
and turned on his flashlight and he said he'd seen one.
It was it was kind of turned sideways and it
turned away from him real quick, and he could see
like dreadlocks down the back of its head. So I

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went over there with him real quick, and him went
back over there and we stood up on this kind
of up on a burn where it had been kind
of dug out before for a road, like an old
logging trail. So there was a burn there about about
three foot tall. Me and him got up on the
burn and right at the of the woods, and I

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stood there filming around with my thermal camera. This is
about eleven o'clock at night, and that was standing right
there in front of us. So he's about nine foot tall,
and I believe he's got either a deer or a
coyote on his shoulder.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Okay, so we were looking at this dark thing here
or exactly the.

Speaker 6 (10:24):
Head where you just were. That was the head. Yeah,
that's his head, the real dark black.

Speaker 7 (10:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
And you can see one year over to the side,
and then you can see what looks like his hand
down below one of the carcasses there. It looks like
a carcass on his shoulder. Yeah, that was his hand.
He just had his yeah, yeah, right there, that's his hand.

Speaker 7 (10:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (10:46):
Yeah. And then I also in the it's actually a screenshot.
All my everything I do is video, So that's a
screenshot from my video because I could see a couple
of faces move and around. There's a head kind of
back there on the on the riot behind him. You
can see it's kind of a dark gray. Yeah. You

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can kind of see the two eyes, the black eyes
on it.

Speaker 7 (11:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (11:10):
In the video, you can actually see that move a
little bit. Yeah, you can see it move a little
bit in the video. So that's one behind him. So
when you zoom in a lot of that you can
see better. You can see us here and one of
its eyes pretty good there and the hair on top
of its head.

Speaker 7 (11:26):
Definitely.

Speaker 5 (11:27):
I would like to remind anyone that's listening to this
if you're listening on a podcast platform, if you go
to the Untold Radio Network on YouTube and look up
the same title of this, you can actually see what
we're looking at. So all of our episodes are audio
and video, so if you've got the opportunity to check
it out otherwise, you know, it seems like we're gonna
have a lot of pictures and videos throughout today's episode,

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so I don't want anyone to miss anything. So okay, awesome,
all right, Well this is another one of that same things,
just a little bit later. Color looks.

Speaker 6 (11:59):
That's why. That's the actual full screenshot, the time on it,
the how long the video has been running, and yeah,
and it's on a one time soon.

Speaker 5 (12:11):
Very cool, very cool. All right, Now we are fishing.

Speaker 6 (12:19):
This is the spot that me and my wife went
back to one day to fish right there on the river.
And while we're standing there fishing, I had the thermal
camera set up on a tripod and a camp quarter
set up on the tripod, and not at this spot
right here, but we moved over a little bit and
there's some you could hear them across the river. You
can hear them over there breaking tree branches and stuff

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and throwing something in the water, and you can see
them a little bit on the thermal camera during the
daytime there.

Speaker 5 (12:48):
Yeah, I've always thought of that. My mom likes to
go fishing. I've never been a fan of it, but
she wants to go fishing all the time. And I've
always thought, you know, you hear all these stories of
people down there fishing and having their fish stolen or
messed with or played with that, i always thought that'd
be kind of an interesting way to too bigfoot. And
this place looks absolutely amazing, like really.

Speaker 6 (13:08):
Is it's really nice out there. It's on a river.
We hiked a little bit to get up to the
spot where we were fishing at.

Speaker 5 (13:15):
Yeah, I've had a lot of a lot of guests
come on and talk about how, uh, you know, when
you're out on rivers and stuff, you have the smell,
you have the sound of the river and everything, and
it kind of masks everything. So your cameras, your you're scent,
all that is kind of like masked away a little
bit because there's just so much stuff going on yep.

Speaker 6 (13:37):
So they're right there. I'm taking a fish off the
hook for my wife. So when she caught the fish,
and the thermal footage you can see her real and
the fish in because you can see the water, you
can see the fish as she's pulling it to her,
and you can see them back there on the thermal
camera moving moving around trying to look and see what
she's doing, what she's got. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Sometimes

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you can really hear them really good like that. So
this is another one. This was similar to the other
one there the shape of the head, but this was
the daytime. This is the daytime thermal footage, and he
stood out really good.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
Okay, so where are we looking on this one? This
this thing for black?

Speaker 6 (14:20):
Yeah, the black one.

Speaker 5 (14:22):
Okay, so kind of back in here.

Speaker 6 (14:25):
Yeah, a little bit to your to the right this one. Yeah,
that's the head right there. You can see the head.

Speaker 5 (14:30):
Oh it's that big. Okay. Yeah. I was picturing that
as being the whole, the whole body. But you're saying
that the whole black spot is the head.

Speaker 6 (14:39):
That's the head right there.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
Yeah, yeah, okay, all right, I got Youah, Yeah, I
don't think Yeah, I don't think people realize that how
hard it is to to get thermal in the woods,
because you think, like all, I can see through anything.
But if things are wet, or if you know, there's
a lot of leaf cover and stuff like that, you're
you're thermal does not go very far into the woods.

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And that's why you're only getting you know, this much
of a whatever standing there.

Speaker 6 (15:06):
Yeah, because the young the brush and all roight there
beasad him where it's kind of like a grayish color.
It's just it's all leaves and stuff and it just
kind of blends in. But these cameras are pretty good,
and I do get some pretty good details.

Speaker 5 (15:21):
Yeah. Yeah, we were talking before the show. You use
the AGM correct.

Speaker 6 (15:26):
Yes, a GM, yes, yes, yeah, very cool.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
Yeah, I was telling you as well for my viewers
and stuff, I have a GM Glory pro phone and
on the phone it has the built in thermal and everything,
and that's that's the highest quality thermal I have right now.
So I'm very very happy with a GM.

Speaker 6 (15:48):
Yeah, the cameras are pretty good. This was in that
same area. If you look up towards the top there,
towards the kind of middle top, you can see his
head and two eyes. And then I have another photo
too where he moved a little. He's up in the trees, yeah,
right up top. Yeah yeah, you can kind of see

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his head, his ears, his eyes, his nose. Yeah yeah,
that helps a lot when.

Speaker 7 (16:17):
You see on that.

Speaker 5 (16:19):
Yeah, that's kind of creepy.

Speaker 6 (16:23):
Same area, uh huh, very cool. And we also when
we walked up in there, you could hear him.

Speaker 5 (16:33):
Oh wow, it almost.

Speaker 6 (16:36):
Sounds like kind of like a monkey sound. I've heard
it a couple of times like that when I've walked
up into an area.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
Yeah, you can. You got like a different I don't
know if he's yeah, yeah, it really stands out on
this one.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
You can really see where he moved.

Speaker 7 (16:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (16:52):
Yeah, see the eyes of the black eyes. The eyes
always use a shot show really dark black the heat.
That's the black, so that the blacker it is, the
more heat.

Speaker 7 (17:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:05):
Interesting, Yeah, that one stands out good. You can see
the nose on it, the mouth.

Speaker 5 (17:10):
Oh yeah, that's definitely. If you guys are not watching
this on YouTube, you definitely should. These are really cool pictures.
All right, right, what we got here.

Speaker 6 (17:22):
That's right here. I had some following this and I
can hear them. I can hear them following this, and
some of the birds were sounding off alarms, going going crazy,
and right there there, they're within about five to six
foot of me. They're right there in the bushes. You
can see some of the dark the really dark spots.
They're right there in the bushes. Yeah, right there. Yeah,

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that's a couple of them right there.

Speaker 7 (17:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:46):
And I could not see them with my eyes, but
I could hear them. I could hear them right there.

Speaker 7 (17:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (17:53):
And that's that's where I start talking about quantum physics
and the light spectrum, because the quantum physics explains that
the light spec and there's a lot here like that
that you cannot see with your eyes. But using the
thermal camera, a lot of times you can catch them
really close to us. I catch orbs flying around us
with the thermal camera when you can't see them with

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their eyes. Things like that. Yeah, So I I do
talk about the light spectrum a lot.

Speaker 5 (18:19):
Absolutely. So what kind of camera is this? Is this
a goal pro footage or what is this ad?

Speaker 6 (18:26):
This is a camp cannon camp qorder. Yeah. My wife
was actually walking ahead of me filming.

Speaker 5 (18:32):
Yeahy interesting, but you so she didn't see this at
all when she was walking either.

Speaker 6 (18:39):
She couldn't see them either or no, no, no, And
I was kind of lagging behind because I was listening
to them. I was hearing them and listening to him. Yeah,
so I was kind of lagging behind her a little
bit there.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
Yeah, Yeah, these are interesting.

Speaker 6 (18:54):
Yeah, that's an orb that was. This was again with
the thermal camera. So it's on the black caught setting
and you can see how it's really black. You can
kind of see a little bit of a trail behind
it there and the footage it's moving really fast. It's
stuff there doing loops, looping around, and it was following us.

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I got a couple of really good shots of it,
like that where it stopped and it's a really good
black ball a heat. Yeah, that's it again right there.
That's the same one it was. It was doing loops around.
I caught it. That's a screenshot where I stopped it. Yeah,
it was following us around. Also, my wife she filmed

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with the cam quarter. She zoomed she like paying around
over that way with the cam quarter or two, and
you cannot see it on the cam quorder. You can
only see it on the thermal.

Speaker 5 (19:47):
So you were able to watch this live, live time
with your thermal.

Speaker 7 (19:52):
With the thermal camera.

Speaker 5 (19:53):
Yeah yeah, So about how big and how far away
would you say this was?

Speaker 6 (20:01):
I would say it was probably like twenty to twenty
five foot up in the air, and it's probably not
really big. I think it's smaller than a basketball.

Speaker 5 (20:13):
But you didn't see any any light any.

Speaker 6 (20:16):
It was and the camquarder didn't pick it up either. Yeah,
only because of the heat. The thermal camera caught it.
I've called a couple of them.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
It's very synonymous of like the stuff that they get
on like Skinwalker Ranch. It looks very similar to that.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
It does. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (20:35):
Yeah, So now you're you're saying black is hot in
this video?

Speaker 6 (20:41):
Yeah this picture, Yeah yeah, I used the black cart.
So everything that's heat is shown up black. Like you
can see the pone trees over there on the left side,
the pond trees and pine needles are showing up black. Yeah,
because of the heat.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
It's got a very cold ring around it as well.

Speaker 7 (21:00):
It does.

Speaker 6 (21:00):
Yeah, yeah, I'll see that when you zoom it in.

Speaker 5 (21:02):
Yeah, that's fascinating. I don't I don't know what would
do that. You know, it's not it's not a bird.
It's not a bug. Lugs don't really show up on
thermal too much. No, no, not like that, it doesn't.

Speaker 6 (21:18):
It's called dragonflies on thermal. Like when we were fishing.
There's a couple of pictures back you can see dragonflies
and you can see them in the cam quarter footage too,
the dragonflies flying around over the water and you can
see them on the thermal camera.

Speaker 7 (21:31):
Two.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
Yeah, that's fascinating. I've I've actually recorded an orb on
my thermal and it was on a blue basketball size
and it was moving through the woods and on thermal
it just looks like a soap bubble. You can see
a circle of movement, but there's no hot, no cold

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at all to it. Yeah, so interesting like that this
one has has heat to it, but with also also
the drastics the drastic distinction of the cold circle as well.

Speaker 7 (22:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (22:10):
It sure. Because of catching these, I went I started
filming birds with the thermal camera. Yeah, and I was
filming a lot of different birds with the thermal camera,
so I could do comparisons and and you know, show
that wasn't a bird flying around. But I like to
see the birds flying in the thermal too, because then

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you can you can actually see their wings moving and
stuff too. This is just a ball and it's just
zooming around up there.

Speaker 7 (22:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
Yeah, there's no there's no distinction of anything of tail, feather, wing,
anything that you'd expect to see with any kind of
bird or nothing.

Speaker 6 (22:48):
It's just a way it was looping around up there,
like staying above us O, looping around just a really at.

Speaker 5 (23:00):
Hmhmm. It's interesting. It also has kind of a cold
spot towards the middle.

Speaker 6 (23:08):
I've never zoomed in on a lot of that too,
so that's really cool.

Speaker 5 (23:12):
We have the good tech here. You should. You should
see it at the screen that I'm looking at it
on over here. It's it's you know, huge, even bigger
than on the on the screen there. But yeah, I
don't know. It's got this weird like flat side to
it here. Also, uh huh, all right, a lot more

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to get to moving on here. That's that's my listening.
I love it. I love that thing.

Speaker 6 (23:40):
So I catch a lot of orbs on game camera too.
That's yeah. You can see I've moved a little bit there,
but you can still see the yeah, the dark areas
up there where they're at Yeah.

Speaker 5 (23:52):
Yeah, yeah, you can really, you know, almost like see
a face here, like the eye, yeah, mouth, head, uh huh.
I don't know. It's it's probably not impressive to you know,
the the skeptic out there, but for somebody that you
know has done research and stuff, that's that's pretty impressive.

Speaker 7 (24:15):
Yeah, if you know what you're.

Speaker 5 (24:17):
Looking at, that's pretty impressive.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (24:24):
I'll try to show the pictures that people will see better,
see easier, So I'm not just showing like dark spots
where somebody could question it. I'll try to show stuff
that people will see easier.

Speaker 5 (24:36):
Oh absolutely, yeah, yeah, all right, and this is your
Facebook group.

Speaker 6 (24:41):
Yeah yeah, and I use that picture, yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
Oh yeah, yeah, I definitely.

Speaker 7 (24:46):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (24:46):
We got the links for this in the show notes
as well as your YouTube channel, so if anybody's interested,
you can go check that out and join the Facebook
group and the YouTube channel. So here's some hair comparisons.

Speaker 6 (24:59):
Yeah, this was some my resources that i'd use when
I do the hair comparisons, and I learned how to
check and see if they're actually fibers like organic fibers,
or if they're actually hairs, and then the difference between
the human hair animal hairs, the sasquatch hair because the

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human hair is the top one, yep. And on the
right side over there, it'll show medulla like the human
has very little medulla, where the sasquatch on the bottom
right has a real heavy medulla in it. Yeah, on
the inside of the hair. And then on the on
the right side there showing the outside of the hair

(25:40):
the cuticle. Yeah, it shows how rough it is compared
to the human. And then the animals all have different
distinct shapes on the outside of the hair too.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Cool.

Speaker 6 (25:56):
All stuff that I've just I've learned on my own
since I started doing in this. That's one of my
friends Kathy. They found hairs on a tire. There was
a tire they found out in the woods and there
was a little nick on the tire and had hairs
attached to it where something had been moving the tire
around and caught their hairs on it. So that's the

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sasquatch hair right there. You can see the outside the
cuticle part is really rough texture.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
It looks just like the pattern and the picture.

Speaker 6 (26:27):
There that we just need the picture, yeah it does, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (26:31):
Scaling to it.

Speaker 6 (26:33):
So I've done a couple of hair exams for her too,
and for her group. That's one of the hairs right
there that she had as well. See how it's clear.
It's got a lot of clear in it, and that
that's why I try to show too. It's got a
lot of clear. It's not a normal animal from around
here anymore.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
Now. What did they say also that the end shouldn't
should not be uh is it cut or tapered?

Speaker 6 (26:59):
Cut? Yeah, it shouldn't be cut like how we have our
hair hairs cut?

Speaker 5 (27:03):
Well, have it like some of the other animal species
to have like straight or cut edges? Not cut you know,
but yes, straight edges instead of being the tapered into it.

Speaker 6 (27:14):
Yeah, and that's the actual root of the hair to
the greener partners, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:22):
I see, Okay, I'm looking at backwards and I was
thinking this was the the external end and then.

Speaker 6 (27:28):
The okay, yeah, that's the actual root of the hair.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
Yeah, well that makes you more sense if this is
the root. It's darker and then as it goes out
it kind of gets clear.

Speaker 6 (27:37):
It's clearer.

Speaker 7 (27:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (27:38):
Yeah, interesting, a whole bunch of them.

Speaker 6 (27:43):
Yeah, and that's the hairs, that's the whole group of
hairs that she had on the tire from the tire,
so you can see there's different colors in there. There's
some clear, there's greens, there's blacks and browns. It's just
all mixed. And when when I compared that to our
human hair too, these are a lot thicker that they

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looked almost exactly a lot of human hairs. But these
are a lot thicker just just looking at them with
a digital microscope. And that's what that's what I learned
to look for. First. I'll take a digital microscope. All
it does is like magnify it like a powerful magnifying
glass and then you can actually see if it's hair

(28:23):
or if it's like organic. Yeah, that's that's one of
the hairs. From the tower. You can see the heavy
medulla in the middle of it there. Yeah, you can
see the thick medula.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
Now. See, you're saying that these the sasquatch has the madula,
and I've always heard doesn't because the medula is where
all the DNA or the blood or whatever is is held.
And I've always heard that the medulla is absent in
sasquatch hair.

Speaker 6 (28:58):
Yeah, from what i've resources, has the medulla?

Speaker 5 (29:01):
Yeah, huh.

Speaker 6 (29:02):
From Melbourne ketch On Scott Carpenter David Pilate's I've learned
a lot from from some of their stuff and watching
their videos and reading books on it.

Speaker 5 (29:14):
Yeah, as you say that the picture was from Scott
Carpenter's book there.

Speaker 6 (29:19):
It was from his book. Yeah, yeah, yep, I do
it continuous. Yeah, and that's one of the hairs.

Speaker 7 (29:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (29:31):
Interesting, And that's the human hair from my wife too.
I was showing that because you can see that there's
hardly any medulla in it. There's only like little sections
of medulla in the middle of it. There that's a
normal human hair. So I was taking like my wife's hair,
my daughter's hair, some of my mind and comparing them.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
That's interesting. I don't know. I've always heard it's the
other Okay, so this is kind of interesting to see
that because, like I said, in the in the picture
shows it the other way.

Speaker 6 (30:04):
So it does.

Speaker 7 (30:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (30:06):
Actually, I think I think doctor Jeff Meldram, I think
his field God that I have, I think it says
they don't have him in Dola.

Speaker 5 (30:14):
I was gonna say, yeah, I'm pretty sure Meldrum didn't
think that they did.

Speaker 6 (30:17):
So yeah, yeah, I think that was in his field
God that I have. Yeah, there was nodul.

Speaker 5 (30:24):
Interesting mm hmm, oh, trail cameras, All right.

Speaker 7 (30:29):
Let's get camera.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (30:31):
I catch a lot of orbs on the trail cameras,
a lot of them at night, every once in a
while catch one during the daytime. I do a lot
of photos. I catch them on photos a lot with
the game camera set on photos, but every once in
a while I have it set on video and it'll
catch one flying through the like going straight across flying.

Speaker 5 (30:53):
So what makes you think that these now, the other
ones we were talking about, you know, have no movement
or anything. But what what gives you the idea that
these are orbs and not bugs or.

Speaker 6 (31:03):
Something because of the size of it, so they're really Yeah, yeah,
I would say again that that's probably almost a basketball
saze there.

Speaker 7 (31:16):
Yeah, yeah, interesting.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
I know, I know there's a lot of people that
you know, have light trail camera images and stuff, and
they say that, you know, it's an orb or something.
But what happens when it flashes either in the i
R spectrum or in the visual light spectrum. The light
reflects off of the insects and causes kind of like
a lens flare effect, And a lot of people think
that that's an ORB, but you can clearly when you

(31:41):
zoom in on it, you can see like body structure
and stuff to it. But yeah, things are right, they
don't They're just pretty round.

Speaker 6 (31:49):
So yeah, because I do see that a lot of
sea bugs, birds, bats, I'll see all that stuff, stix,
fallen leaves, fallen, yeah.

Speaker 5 (32:00):
And that kind of structure anything on these.

Speaker 6 (32:03):
Just reflecting off the water. Rather, that's actually reflection.

Speaker 7 (32:07):
On the water. Oh yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (32:13):
See about half of the looking at.

Speaker 5 (32:14):
This ORB and it's this is a reflection on the
water surface.

Speaker 6 (32:19):
On the water.

Speaker 7 (32:19):
Yeah, that is.

Speaker 6 (32:22):
About the about the middle of that is down as water.
And then from the middle of the woods.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
Yeah, this is the water one right here.

Speaker 6 (32:29):
It looks like the water on yeah. Yeah, and I
caught it like a lot of baby alligators swimming around there.
I can see their eyes so things like that that,
you know, it's pretty cool to see.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
Now that that is cool. If that's the case with
this is a reflection, then whatever this is is putting
out enough light to reflect off the water.

Speaker 6 (32:51):
Off the water.

Speaker 5 (32:51):
Yeah, yeah, that that is a cool picture then it is.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (32:55):
Yeah, there's just.

Speaker 6 (33:07):
And the reason I do the photos too, because when
I first started putting game cameras out. I was setting
them for video, and I had one during the night.
One time, one of my cameras was moved. It was
moved away from a gifting area that I had sitting
in front of it. The camera was moved actually from
behind the tree and they moved it away from the

(33:29):
gifting area, and they actually they straightened the camera up
before they let go of it. So after that I
put a second camera up taking photos pointing out the
first camera to see if they come back and do
it again. And then I started catching a lot of
orbs right there in that area too. I was catching
orbs going to the game camera that was taking videos,

(33:51):
and you could not see them on the game camera
that was taking videos, but the one taking photos was
catching them. They were actually going to the game camera.
They were going moving around different places, down to the
bottom of the tree, up on actually sitting on the
game camera. And I was wondering if they were actually
like draining the batteries from the game camera, maybe getting

(34:12):
drawing energy from the game camera.

Speaker 5 (34:15):
Interesting, So let's take a break right here, and what
do you what do you think that these orbs are them?

Speaker 6 (34:25):
A lot of times, I think they're actually somehow the
bigfoot sasquatch. I think they're actually using them. Sometimes I
think I've seen somewhere. I think they're actually somehow like
traveling in them, using them to travel around and then
they can manifest or become their they're like normal sasquatch

(34:46):
shape again, come out of it. Sometimes I think they're
using them as like a like we would use a
drone to fly around and film or look around. Yeah,
so I think there's a couple of different things that
could be.

Speaker 5 (35:03):
I always like to bring up there's a like fairy
fay mythology and there's this woman of the woods or
she is a woman in white and she's you know,
the archetypal of that, and she's supposed to travel around
the woods with a large hairy man and candeal a
dancers or balls of light and this this mythology and

(35:28):
stuff goes all the way back, you know, pre written
history and stuff of these stories of that, And I
always think it's very interesting that you have, even back then,
you're linking these orbs of light to the sasquatch type being.

Speaker 6 (35:42):
So yeah, yeah, that's interesting.

Speaker 5 (35:45):
Cool.

Speaker 6 (35:46):
Now, I have one video one of my videos where
I call I have a deer, a deer standing out
in front of the game camera, like facing the game camera,
and you can see an orb around it. You can
it's white like just like that, but this is the daytime,
but the orb is white, but you can see the
orb is is round and it's got the deer. It's

(36:10):
right on the deer's body. And then the next photo
it took the deer backwards. It's taking the deer backwards.
And then the next photo you see this this head
pop up out of the palmettas. It's a cone shaped head.
You can see the back of it, and it's a
greenish color and it pops up out of the palmettas.
That's watching the the orb carry the deer off. So

(36:33):
that that's another reason I think that they.

Speaker 5 (36:35):
Use these orbs kind of like hunting, Yeah.

Speaker 6 (36:39):
Hunting or yeah interesting.

Speaker 5 (36:42):
Do I have those pictures or no?

Speaker 6 (36:45):
No, you don't know, know they're not on there?

Speaker 5 (36:48):
All right, All right, come on, looks what do we
got here?

Speaker 6 (36:57):
Now? This is a couple of faces right there. This
is thermal camera again, the black hot setting. This is
during the daytime. I was taking a friend of mine
up into see a structure and as I'm walking to it,
they're right there in front of me on thermal camera. Again,
I could not see them with my eyes. There's like

(37:19):
three or four of them. Actually you can see them
in the film footage. You can see them moving around
and there's three.

Speaker 5 (37:25):
Or four of them.

Speaker 6 (37:27):
And again this is another spot too where I went
back and refilmed it with the thermal camera and I
filmed it with the cam quarter and then I show
them side by side what it looks like just some
normal with the camquarder, and then what it looks like
here with them in between the trees there.

Speaker 5 (37:46):
So I'm presuming some of this video footage like the
thermals and when you're talking about how you explain it,
that's all on your YouTube channel.

Speaker 6 (37:52):
That's on the YouTube.

Speaker 5 (37:53):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that is in the show notes
for anybody that wants to go check out as well.

Speaker 6 (38:00):
All right, and then Chell, you this out. Now. I
have the thermal camera running the whole time I'm in
the woods. I'm walking around with it, and there's times
where I'll stop and I'll just slowly pan around or
look at some things, but I'm always filming. It's always
video and when I'm in the woods and I'm walking
around with it, and I do have it on the

(38:22):
tripods so I can set it up on the tripod
and let it sit there in film as well. But
right here I was walking and when I went back
and refilmed this, he's only about fifteen yards from me.

Speaker 5 (38:35):
Okay, what are we looking at here? Because this just
looks like residual tree to me.

Speaker 6 (38:40):
Okay, So when you actually see the different videos, you'll
see and I actually got one of the one of
the videos I have on here that I gave to you,
you can see him really good from starting to finish.

Speaker 5 (38:52):
Oh, this is the one where he's peeking in between here.

Speaker 6 (38:55):
Yeah, he's kind of peeking in between you because you
can see his dark hair, you can see his eyes,
his face human. Yeah, yeah, he's got a human looking face. Yeah,
right there. Okay, and it looks like he's got kind
of like a dark dark beard and mustache coming down
that's really giving off heat coming down the sides of
his of his face there.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
Okay, we'll get to that video in a little bit
because I remember watching that one. So okay, Okay, maybe
I'm zooming in on the wrong thing. Am I looking
at this or this? Because this looks more like what you're.

Speaker 6 (39:30):
Talking Yeah, that's yeah.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
This looks like a tree. That's why I'm all right,
very cool, all right.

Speaker 6 (39:37):
Yeah, and you can see his whole body. You could
actually see his chest as one of his arms. Okay, yeah,
that's just another part of it there because I was
moving and he was. He was stationary.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
But so were you facing him at this time or
you had.

Speaker 6 (39:59):
I was facing him, yeah, yeah. And this is another
one where I could not see him with my eyes.
He was fifteen yards from me and I could not
seem Yeah.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
I've had a very similar experience where one was peeking
out from behind a tree the very first time they
ever got it, and I didn't have a video camera,
just a photographic thermal, and you can see half the
full body with a half the head and then the
arm and a leg all standing there and we couldn't
see anything with their eyes. So yeah, very interesting. All right.

(40:33):
This picture is really interesting because for anybody that doesn't know,
this is a trifield meter. Yeah, yeah, it's registering.

Speaker 6 (40:41):
I went back and I was refilming the area there,
and I was refilming the trees. I filmed myself walking
up in there different different distances so I could get
measurements and compare it to where he's at. And I
was measuring the trees to the trees. Yeah, I was

(41:03):
trying to get as close as I could to the
actual size that he was.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
Okay, so how big do you think he was?

Speaker 6 (41:12):
He was quite a bit bigger than me, So I
think he was at least non foot tall. Okay, Yeah, yeah,
he's quite a bit bigger than me.

Speaker 1 (41:19):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
Yeah, interesting, So.

Speaker 7 (41:25):
Go ahead, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 5 (41:26):
Malogan for anything specific. But you're you're like Central Florida.
That's where all this is kind of taking place, is.

Speaker 6 (41:31):
Yes, Central Florida.

Speaker 7 (41:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (41:32):
Yeah, there's a really big area called green Swamp and
it's got it's got the Green Swamp East Track, the
Green Swamp West Track, rich Sloan, it's got Cold Creek
State Parror, it's got another part called the Hampton Track,
and it's it's a really big, huge area. It's like
one hundred and fifty six thousand acres. And then there's

(41:54):
a lot of private property to this in the green
Swamp as well. Yeah, but there's several several wildlife management areas.
The state Park yeah, a lot of a lot of really,
it's all called the Green Swamp. It's really big. It's
got the Hillsborough River runs up into it, the Wi
Lakuchie River, I think the Peace River connects into some

(42:18):
of it.

Speaker 5 (42:21):
Cool. So all this evidence that we've been looking at
is all from that area.

Speaker 6 (42:25):
Yeah, all from that area. Yeah yeah yeah. So also
this is the spot here too where my batteries kept dying,
my camp quarter battery, my GoPro batteries. I was flying
the drone. It kept killing my drone batteries. I had
three three batteries from my drone that was killing them
all right there at that spot when I went back

(42:45):
to refilming or refilmed the area.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
I mean, so let's stark, let's talk about this. So
you got a tryfield meter out here doing bigfoot. So
tell us why you're using that. Well, okay, so it's
it's trifield. It's electro like. It's the electric field, the
magnetic field, and the radio field radio frequency. Yeah yeah,
So why are you using this out in the field

(43:10):
for bigfoot? And what did you find that's led you
to do this?

Speaker 6 (43:13):
What did you started? I started using it because a
friend of mine thought that the infrasound might not be
actually infrasound that we were getting hit with, it might
be radio frequency. Okay, So I started carrying this out
there because I've been hit with infra sound a couple
of times, and so I started carrying this with me
and and checking the radio frequency while I'm out there.

(43:36):
And there's a lot of times we're getting hit with
really high radio frequency. This is just like standing beside
your microwave. If you take your microwave and put something
in it and turn it on, and it'll read real
high radio frequencies. And sometimes we're getting hit with that
that high a frequency out here in the woods where
there's nothing around, there's no cell phone towers close by things,

(43:59):
all that.

Speaker 7 (44:00):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (44:01):
And I've also started checking the uh the magnetic with
it too, trying to see if we're close to portals,
trying to see if we're if we can detect a
portal or something around with the magnetic. Yeah, there's there's
times where we're getting hit with real high radio frequency
out there, and you can go back the next time

(44:22):
and it's not you don't get hit with it in
the same spot, So it's not like a it's not
like it's a constant thing.

Speaker 7 (44:31):
M Yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:33):
Have you have you looked for ELF extremely low frequency?

Speaker 6 (44:37):
Oh no, I haven't, No, No.

Speaker 5 (44:38):
Okay, See, that's that's interesting when you when you're talking
about the infrasound, I thought that's kind of where you
were going to go with it, because ELF extremely low frequency.
The military has experimented and stuff with that with like
kind of making people sick or that's kind of like
the infrasound. Yeah, so it's it's been used to kind
of create paranoia and and things like that at and

(45:00):
kind of a crowd deterrent in that.

Speaker 6 (45:02):
So you have heard of that, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5 (45:04):
That would be kind of more where I would think
that you're going. But with the radio frequency, that's that's
definitely interesting. I haven't heard that before.

Speaker 6 (45:12):
I've also I haven't got one yet, but I've heard
that some people are using lightning detectors and getting they're
getting readings on the lightning detectors out there like that.

Speaker 7 (45:22):
Really.

Speaker 6 (45:23):
Yeah, so I haven't started doing that yet. I've heard that.

Speaker 5 (45:28):
Yeah, So what is the thought process behind that? Is
that kind of the infra sound too or what what
do you think the lightning represented.

Speaker 6 (45:37):
I'm wondering if that has something to do with the
radio frequency as well, or if it's something in that
range maybe interesting.

Speaker 8 (45:48):
I have you tried taking I'm sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (45:53):
I'm not sure if that could have anything to do
with the magnetic or not. Either the lightning.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
Maybe, well the lightning is what is it positive traveling
down to be grounded? Yeah, that would be a that
would be a magnetic charge.

Speaker 7 (46:11):
Yeah, I just charge.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
So have you tried taking a Geiger counter out to
any of these locations?

Speaker 7 (46:19):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (46:19):
No, I haven't. I haven't tried that yet either.

Speaker 5 (46:21):
Or no, No, we did that on a private property
where we were having a lot of bigfoot activity, and
we took it around to the different stick structures in
that and although, don't get me wrong, there's nothing dangerous
levels or anything, but there is a very small increase

(46:41):
on the Geiger counter in areas where these stick structures
and other bigfoot activity had been reported on the property. Now,
for anybody that's familiar with geig your counters or anything, like,
let's say your background radiation is like fourteen parts per
billion and we're looking at like maybe twenty twenty one,
so it's maybe like a five parts you know, so

(47:02):
it's no significance, you know, but a small increase at
these locations, so might be more if there's more recent
activity or something. I don't know, something else for you
to try out.

Speaker 7 (47:16):
There it is.

Speaker 6 (47:17):
Yeah, yeah, I've also been doing experiments with playing different
parts frequencies like I've been I've been trying forty herts,
the sixty eight hertz, I've been doing some of the
higher ones four hundred and thirty two, five hundred and
twenty eight.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
No.

Speaker 6 (47:36):
I did have one of the times I was playing
the sixty hertz and I had something come in and
was flying around my hat, doing circles around my hat
all just like a little light. And I caught it
on the camcorder. It was just like doing loops around
by my hat. I couldn't see it with my eyes,
and I had my cell phone sitting down close to

(47:59):
me with it as well, And you can't see that
on on the cell phone footage either, but you can
see it on the camp quarter footage. But it was
like doing circles close by my hat like that like
a little light.

Speaker 5 (48:15):
Interesting, So you find that the higher frequencies had more interaction.

Speaker 6 (48:20):
Well, I said that was a lower one that had
caught that with.

Speaker 7 (48:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (48:24):
Yeah, and when I when I played the four hundred
and thirty two hertz, all the birds come in close
and start chirping and singing.

Speaker 5 (48:34):
So yeah, fastly I'm thrilled. Awesome. All right, well let's
move on here. So all right, so okay, so this
is the comparison here. You got the thermal recreation. Yeah,
and then you got the the original there.

Speaker 6 (48:49):
Yeah, that's the original on the left, and then that's
me on the far right close to the camera, the
thermal camera.

Speaker 7 (48:56):
Gotcha.

Speaker 6 (48:57):
So with with measuring the trees and my distance and stuff,
that's really close to what I come up with the
size comparison. That's fifteen yards. I'm at fifteen yards there,
and that's what I determined. He was about fifteen yards
from me originally. And you can see he's almost like
twice my size, so I figured he's about nine foot tall.

Speaker 9 (49:23):
Very cool.

Speaker 5 (49:26):
That's another comparison.

Speaker 6 (49:27):
That's one of the same. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because I
was moving around and getting different distances, and that's another
spot that I was about fifteen yards away. I was
trying to keep all the trees the same size.

Speaker 7 (49:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (49:50):
Was this like close up of the same one or
is this something else.

Speaker 6 (49:53):
A different one? This is a different This was the
first time I took a friend of mine. He came
up from Sarah Soda and went out with me, and
we had a whole clan of him around us. And
we were actually we were following some hogs. You can
see the hog or the hog pooped. You can see
it really good on the thermal camera because it was

(50:13):
so hot as we walked up around the swamp. Here,
we had a whole clan of him. That's one of
the best best images. I caught him for like a
couple of minutes on thermal camera and you can see him.
You can see him move around a little. You can
see as you watch the footage. I think I have

(50:33):
a couple of different photos of him here.

Speaker 5 (50:36):
So this is an eye eye.

Speaker 6 (50:41):
Yeah, his eyes, yeah yeah. And I've caught him before
on thermal camera. I've caught him before. I recognized him.
M yeah.

Speaker 7 (50:54):
That's another one.

Speaker 6 (50:54):
That's the same one. It's just a little bit different
where he moved around a little bit. Now. This is
another area here, this one here. This was the daytime
as well, and I was with some with some other
researchers and friends and they had they had all stopped
to take a break, and they were all sitting down

(51:16):
on some tree tree trunks, and I was kind of
over off to the side. I was looking at a
there was there was a down tree, and I was
looking at the root parts of it that had something
to been chewing on it and pulling it apart. So
while I was standing and looking at that, I could
hear them moving around, and I started filming that way,
and I could see them in the thermal camera. So

(51:37):
I stood there filming them. There's there's two juveniles right there.

Speaker 5 (51:40):
Yeah, yeah, okay, so you got to.

Speaker 6 (51:43):
There's two of them.

Speaker 5 (51:45):
Yeah yeah, the heads yep, Yeah, that's neat.

Speaker 6 (51:52):
So I could hear them and I stood there filming them.

Speaker 5 (51:54):
Yeah, very cool looks think the same one the ones.

Speaker 7 (52:00):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (52:01):
You can see him a little bit better right there. Yeah.
You can see his ears, pointed ears, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
See how his nose, his nose stands out hot, and
his eyes and the hair on top of his head.

Speaker 7 (52:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (52:28):
All right, Now we got a whole bunch of footprints
to look at. What do we got here?

Speaker 6 (52:31):
Yeah, that's a footprint. That's the footprint there me and
a friend of mine we found quite a few that
day along the river here in the green swamp, one
of the rivers we were walking along, and that that's
over away from the river a little bit where we
were walking through, and you can see how deep it
is there. It's just it's a lot heavier than me.

(52:52):
It's a smaller smaller than my foot, and quite quite
heavier than me, probably about twice my weight. And then
these are something that we found here. This was the
eight inch footprint. You see the toes. Look at the
toes on them. We casted on like seven of these,

(53:21):
and he took three and took I kept four, I said,
I kept three. And then I had one that broke
and I kept it too. I glued it back together.
But these were on like seven and a quarter inches
and eight inches. There was two of them, and they
were traveling about a quarter mile or so, and then
they went down along the river. We found their tracks

(53:43):
on down right at the edge of the water. And
these were on a little bit further a step, a
little bit further apart than I can normally step.

Speaker 5 (53:54):
Is it just me or is this one looked twisted?

Speaker 6 (53:57):
It looks a little twisted. Yeah, the toes got look.

Speaker 5 (53:59):
Here, but then the toes are are up at this end.
Was turned as he was stepping.

Speaker 6 (54:05):
They are yeah yeah, yeah cool right.

Speaker 7 (54:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (54:14):
And that's another one of them too, the same ones.
Yeah yeah yeah. In the cast we casted them, they
come out really good. You can see the toes in them,
really good. We went back and set up game cameras
throughout the area trying to catch just catch my shirt

(54:36):
of the people. And there were people riding through there
at night on a there's little track or things side
by side. You know, we've seen stuff like that. I've
seen it was turkey hunting season, so I caught turkey
hunters out there walking around and some of them out
of the rocks of riding bicycles to get to their areas,
and a few people fishing, a few people going down

(54:57):
to the water fishing.

Speaker 7 (55:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (55:07):
Yeah, that's another one of them there. And again these
were like seven and a quarter inches and eight inches.
There was two of them, and then we found a
thirteen and a half inch footprint with them as well. Yeah,
and then again that one shows the toes really really long,

(55:30):
long looking toes on them, and they had actually walked
through there just a little bit before we got there,
because it was real windy that morning. The whole time
we were out there, it was pretty windy, and these
hardly had any kind of leaves or anything in them yet.

(55:54):
All right, now, this is from that same area here.
This is an orb that I caught when I set
the game cameras up in that area right there where
we found the footprints. So that's an order right there.

Speaker 5 (56:12):
Yep, sure is. I just look, you know, nothing against you,
but I'm just like looking for any kind of know,
wings or body structure or anything in there, anything that
it's reflecting off of. And yeah, I don't see nothing.
Yeah it's a solid ball.

Speaker 6 (56:33):
Yeah, solid ball. Yeah, now I caught one. No right here,
this one, this was actually from a video. You can
see you can see there's a deer down there at
the bottom above the zero four zero three. Yeah, there's
a deer standing there. So in this in this video,
you can see the deer standing there and he's looking

(56:55):
off towards the left, over towards where it says uh
guard proke down at the bottom and you can hear
a knock. You can hear a loud knock in the video,
and then up high on the on the left, up high,
there's an orb and in this video the orb is
kind of it's not really round. It's kind of kind
of like the tick tack shape. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (57:18):
This one, yeah, is more of a bug.

Speaker 6 (57:23):
Well, it flies through. As you watch the video, it
flies through, it stops and it becomes a round shape,
and then it moves again and it stops again. It
becomes a round shape. H.

Speaker 5 (57:36):
I'll take your word for it. But this one's got
kind of more of the structure that you'd see like
in a bug. You can see kind of like a
wing over here and a wing over there coming off
of it. Yeah, kind of more a.

Speaker 6 (57:49):
Lot that you're zooming in like that and looking at it.

Speaker 5 (57:52):
Yeah, but you can definitely see the difference between like
this one and the previous ones and.

Speaker 6 (57:59):
The other one.

Speaker 7 (57:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (58:00):
Yeah, like the other ones, the other ones I'll give you,
but this one I would say is a bug without
watching the full footage, just because you can kind of
see there's something coming out the side there and over
there that kind of looks bug formed but interesting. But
the other ones that our all right, another one was

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this the same thing?

Speaker 6 (58:27):
That's the same one. Yeah, it's flying around through the trees. Yeah,
that's the same one.

Speaker 5 (58:32):
Yeah, it's got a little bit more of a round shape,
but still it's got these protrusions that kind of still
got that outside here and a protrusion there. I would
still kind of lend this one to be more of
a bug.

Speaker 6 (58:47):
But it does change shape as it flies and stops
it because it's got that kind of cylinder looking look
as it's moving, and then when it stops it's more round.

Speaker 5 (59:00):
I'm wondering, what is this? Is this part of a.

Speaker 6 (59:04):
That's just a stick, that's a part of a small
tree branch sticking up in front of the camera. Yeah,
I cleared, Okay, I cleared some of them. Oy the
way it.

Speaker 5 (59:16):
Kind of looked like an orb hiding behind the deer there,
and I was kind of wondering, what, uh huh, all right,
just a stick, all right?

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Now?

Speaker 6 (59:28):
This right here, this is something I caught with the
drone One morning. I went out with a friend of
mine too, Dan, and we got up the trail a
little ways and then I told him, hey, I want
to I want to set the drone up and fly
it and let it follow us and like fly up
the trail ahead of us. A little bit kind of
film us walking up the trail, because we got a

(59:48):
long walk up the trail to get back towards where
we were going in. So I set the camera. I
sat there, I mean the drone. I set it on
the ground right there, on a good sandy spot, and
it's soon as I lifted it up. Soon as the
drone lifted up, I saw this, Uh, the one on
the far right there that circle. Yeah, I believe that's

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a female. I caught that on the drone footage. I
didn't see it until I got home looking at it
at the drone footage. You know, I didn't see it.
We didn't see it there with their eyes. But I
think that's a large male over on the far left
that circled. I think that's a mill he's bigger. But
I went back the following weekend and I set the

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drone right back in the same spot and flew it up,
and I flew it all around trying to get the
same exact footage, and it's not there. It's not there
the second time. And I even walked up in there
and got my size comparison to compare it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:53):
Hmm. Interesting this one, this one where am I going
this one, you almost look like you see a face there.

Speaker 7 (01:01:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:01:01):
Yeah, that one, you can kind of see a fa
Yeah yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:01:07):
This one's just kind of like body image or something there.

Speaker 6 (01:01:13):
Yeah, I kind of see a face almost in the
center of the circle there. Yeah, like this face. Yeah,
the eyes and nose. Yeah, that's why I think that's
a larger male right there. And with the dark the
dark body, because when I refilmed that with the DHN,
there's no dark spot there.

Speaker 5 (01:01:36):
It looks completely different on the screen over here than
it does over here. But this, this, I think is
is leaf debris. This is your whatever you're looking at.
The coloration is kind of off on the other screen,
so maybe that's why. But this is this is tree.

Speaker 7 (01:01:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:01:55):
It is really hard to tell sometimes when you're looking
at darker or even greenish stuff.

Speaker 7 (01:02:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:02:01):
Okay, all right, looking at this again, I think that's.

Speaker 6 (01:02:06):
The same one again. Yeah, you can see he's moved on.

Speaker 5 (01:02:08):
Okay, so yeah, so this is the same. This is
the same only in thermal.

Speaker 6 (01:02:13):
No, No, that was something I want a few minutes
back on thermal.

Speaker 7 (01:02:18):
Ok.

Speaker 6 (01:02:19):
You can see the head, yeah that's.

Speaker 7 (01:02:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:02:25):
Yeah, No, this is a comparison. Yeah, that's where I
went back. Yeah, you can see me on the right there.
You can see I circled the tree where she was
and me, and she's looks quite a bit bigger than me.
She looks about twice my size. Her head does.

Speaker 5 (01:02:41):
There's definitely nothing there.

Speaker 7 (01:02:43):
Yeah, set up.

Speaker 6 (01:02:49):
In the same spot and flew it up, and then
I flew it around and stuff too, to make sure
I was getting the same exact angle.

Speaker 5 (01:03:00):
So your angle is a little bit off, but not
too bad.

Speaker 6 (01:03:04):
Yeah, you know, even I took my camquarter and walked
up in there a little bit with the cam quarter
filmed all around, and there's there's nothing there beside the tree.
There's nothing up in the woods there near it.

Speaker 5 (01:03:19):
Very cool, that's without the circles. Yeah, and now we're
onto videos, all right, hang on, Okay, I guess I
let it playing. Let's see, I'll let it play. You
can kind of discuss it, I guess.

Speaker 6 (01:03:36):
Okay, So this is a spot here we get a
lot of strangeness during the daytime and sometimes it not.
So I was sitting there one night and I got
eye shine right between these two trees. Yeah, right there,
really good.

Speaker 7 (01:03:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:03:52):
There was another night that I was sitting right there too,
and we had an object flu thrown at us that
came across and hit my backpack that was sitting on
the ground.

Speaker 7 (01:04:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:04:03):
Right there, you start seeing the a shine right there.

Speaker 5 (01:04:12):
That's cool.

Speaker 7 (01:04:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:04:15):
Is that it for this video? It's four minutes long.

Speaker 6 (01:04:18):
Yeah. Actually, if you if you zoom through it a
little bit or fast forward through it a little bit
at alone, it gets where you can see it really good.

Speaker 7 (01:04:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:04:34):
Right there, it starts getting where you can see it
really good. And also I got up and took the
tryfield meter over there and set it down across the
little road from it to see if I could if
we were getting any breathings from over there, and you'll
be able to see the a shine above the.

Speaker 5 (01:04:54):
Yeah, you can still see the eye shine right above
the You got the big the big square here is
the tryfield and then you there yea.

Speaker 6 (01:05:05):
And going back there during the daytime, I figured the
eyes were about it just about seven foot tall. It's
about seven foot up where the eyes are right there.

Speaker 5 (01:05:16):
H So what did what did the tryfield get anything?

Speaker 8 (01:05:20):
No, it wasn't reading anything that night. No, Well that's
a bug. Yeah, yeah, all interesting?

Speaker 7 (01:05:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:05:35):
Is that for this one?

Speaker 7 (01:05:37):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:05:37):
Yeah, a little bit zoomed in there. Y, I'll take
this moment and tell everybody remember we are pre recorded today,
so if we if you have any questions or anything
throughout the show, I apologize. We can't take them live.

(01:06:00):
And if you guys are listening after the fact, uh,
and you are not seeing videos, head on over to
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and you can watch all the stuff that we're talking
about instead of just hearing it as well as you
can head on over to Tim's YouTube channel and check
it out there.

Speaker 6 (01:06:20):
So see that right there a rod that was like, yeah,
I thought it was a stick, but it goes up
as it moves on away from the camera, goes up
on the trail. It was it was like standing straight
along the trail. It was passing us that it was
going upwards.

Speaker 5 (01:06:41):
Huh. Yeah, you think it was something flying or do
you think it threw a stick?

Speaker 6 (01:06:46):
Hut, No, I think it was something flying. I think
that was something different that was flying. Yeah, that's the
end of that one. Yeah, that didn't appear to be thrown.

Speaker 5 (01:06:57):
Okay, Now this is that drone footage that you were
talking about.

Speaker 6 (01:07:01):
Yeah, this one here, this is another area that I went,
and I was trying to tell if there was one
spot here that was a could be.

Speaker 7 (01:07:09):
A portal, possible portal, and I was.

Speaker 6 (01:07:11):
Checking out with the trifield meter. I was filming all
around with the thermal camera, and I got my drone
out and flew the drone up to have a look
around at it with the drone, and it stopped my
drone at sixty six foot. It wasn't going to Hire,
and on the footage you can hear it grunting the
whole time like it's hitting my drone with a frequency.

(01:07:33):
You can hear it going the whole time like it's
hitting my drone with a frequency. So the drone would
only go up to sixty six foot. I kept trying
to get it to go Hire, and it wouldn't. And
as I tried to bring the drone down, I was
fighting trying to get the drone keep control of it,
and then it actually flew the drone right at me

(01:07:55):
and I moved out of the way and it hit
a tree. My drone went over hit a tree. At
least these drones are really really good. They're like it
hit the trade. It didn't do nothing to the drone.
The really good drones. But the whole time you could
hear it. You could hear him grunting, and I couldn't

(01:08:16):
hear him with my ears at the time either. You
can only hear it on the on the footage. That's
me down there in the trail trying to control it.

Speaker 5 (01:08:28):
Now. Do you watch The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch?

Speaker 6 (01:08:32):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
I do.

Speaker 5 (01:08:33):
Yes, that's that's very interesting. You kept up with this season?

Speaker 6 (01:08:38):
No, I haven't seen. I haven't been watching the newest
season yet.

Speaker 5 (01:08:42):
You really do need to with with those comments. You
really do need to. They got uh they got what
they're calling the bubble around the uh triangle area. So
one there, it's a two thousand foot radius in all
directions of this giant sphere, and whenever they try and

(01:09:03):
fly a drone through it, it hits the edge and stops. Yeah,
exactly like what you're talking about there. So you got
to go catch up on that season because that's that's
pretty cool.

Speaker 7 (01:09:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:09:14):
Interesting.

Speaker 6 (01:09:15):
That's the only time I've ever had them do that
to my drone, But I have been in an area
where it's killed the batteries. I'll put a battery in
it that I've charged up the morning before I go
and put a battery in it. I get the drone
up off the ground, it says dead battery. I've changed
the battery, and I went through three batteries. As soon
as I get the drone up off the ground, it'll

(01:09:37):
it kills the battery.

Speaker 5 (01:09:39):
Have you noticed a temperature flux in that at all?
Like is it a colder day or a warmer day
or anything?

Speaker 10 (01:09:45):
No?

Speaker 6 (01:09:45):
I haven't, No, No, I mean it was it was cool.
It was it was cool, but not real cold.

Speaker 5 (01:09:51):
I suppose what's what's cold for you in Florida?

Speaker 6 (01:09:55):
I actually about forty degrees.

Speaker 5 (01:09:56):
There's been a yeah, all right, we're not even to
talk about this anymore. Yeah, I've flown my drone in
the snow. So that's that's.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:10:09):
Yeah, I guess we're we're we're gonna leave that conversation
right there. All right, alright, then all right we got Okay,
so this is the one, this is the one with
and this is in slow motion? Is it supposed to be?
I was wondering because when I was watching, I just
wondered if it downloaded wrong or something.

Speaker 6 (01:10:30):
But I'll slowed it down.

Speaker 5 (01:10:32):
Yeah, okay, so this is the one where we're watching
in between these two trees right here. Yeah, like the
v of this tree.

Speaker 6 (01:10:42):
And I was trying to tell if it's a small
tree behind him or if he's actually like holding a
walking stick or a staff. Okay, it almost looked like
he's holding a staff.

Speaker 5 (01:11:03):
Oh wow, you're looking at like a whole body there,
the whole body.

Speaker 6 (01:11:06):
Yeah, the whole body.

Speaker 7 (01:11:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:11:09):
It looks like his arm and shoulders like real hairy,
and you can see his chest and stomach.

Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
And you didn't you didn't see him when you were there, right.

Speaker 6 (01:11:22):
I could not see him now. I cannot see him
when I was there, and like I said, I determined
he was about fifteen yards from him.

Speaker 5 (01:11:30):
You're you're looking at at this as being the staff
or whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:11:34):
Yeah, that's yeah, that's right there.

Speaker 5 (01:11:35):
Yes, Yeah, to me, that looks like part of the tree.

Speaker 7 (01:11:40):
It could be because it's.

Speaker 5 (01:11:43):
Just like a colder part of the tree and then
that's a warmer part. So that kind of looks like
just the edge of a tree.

Speaker 6 (01:11:49):
That's it just stood out to me.

Speaker 5 (01:11:55):
Mm hm no, that was yeah, yeah, yeah, he turns,
he like turns his head and you can just see

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his face there for a second.

Speaker 10 (01:12:23):
Hum hm.

Speaker 5 (01:12:26):
That's cool. Yeah, all right, another thermal What do we
got here?

Speaker 6 (01:12:31):
Okay, these are the two juveniles that I could hear
him moving around and I stood there filming them, and
I could see him in see him in the thermal camera.

Speaker 5 (01:12:40):
Hey, even looks like they're like blinking too.

Speaker 6 (01:12:42):
Yeah, they move around a little.

Speaker 5 (01:13:02):
So that let's say it's up in the air. How
high is that?

Speaker 6 (01:13:06):
Yeah, I think it's a little bit.

Speaker 5 (01:13:08):
Yeah, I think it's a hill or something there, or
a ridge.

Speaker 6 (01:13:12):
I don't think there's a ridge up in there now.
It was pretty thick up in there, so they could
be standing on a tree log or a tree trunk
or something.

Speaker 5 (01:13:21):
Yeah, it's hard to judge without being there and stuff.
But yeah, it looks like maybe like it is at
least five feet tall or something more there or five
feet up.

Speaker 6 (01:13:32):
Yeah. I think they were probably about seven foot up
right there.

Speaker 5 (01:13:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:13:36):
Yeah, a lot showing that because you can see the
point of ear. It's his eyes and nose.

Speaker 5 (01:14:03):
Very interesting.

Speaker 6 (01:14:19):
So all those years I was out there hunting in
those areas and I never you know, I never had
like one walk out in front of me like some
people say they do. And I just always wondered I
was are they really? You know, are they real? Are
they here in Florida? And I kind of I got
to looking around and watching a couple of people's videos
on YouTube. I've seen a couple of people actually showing something. So,

(01:14:44):
you know, I got tired of watching the shows on
TV because they wasn't really showed nothing. So I started
going out and really looking looking for for more human
looking footprints. Like before, when I was hunting, if i'd
have seen a footprint or something, I would have just,
you know, thought that was a hunter or something like that,
you know, just another person in the woods. Yeah, and

(01:15:06):
bare feet too, and yeah, because I have heard of
people out there running around barefoot. And I've actually seen
one guy there in shorts running around barefoot chasing his
dogs and his hunting dogs. But I really got to
where of now, I started going and really looking for
myself and started finding footprints. I was finding footprints like

(01:15:26):
coming out of a swamp, out of water. Started finding
things like that, started finding hairs like way way off
trail and the places where the only people in there
might be hunters that had the most people in their hunt.
And I would find hairs on bar bar fence and

(01:15:47):
then I started getting where I was collecting all the hog,
the deer, all the different hairs I could get, Bobcat,
I was collecting all those hairs. And we do have
some areas areas where people ride horses in areas where
there's cattle, So I was collecting the horse hairs and
cattle hairs too and using them to compare to as

(01:16:07):
far as the hairs, and I've found some hairs that
I can't identify. They have a lot of clear in them,
they have a lot of greens in them. Some of
the ends of them like like split off real quick
wickuld look in and I haven't been able to identify them.
I don't think those are even side squad chairs. I

(01:16:27):
think there's some kind of cryptid.

Speaker 7 (01:16:30):
Interesting So I.

Speaker 5 (01:16:33):
Think you should be able to hear audio on your end.
If you don't, let me know real quick here and
I'll see what I can do. But can you hear it?

Speaker 7 (01:16:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (01:16:44):
Okay, yeah, I hear it. This was really cool here,
me and Jason are off trail ripping the woods.

Speaker 9 (01:17:00):
H Yeah, that's che whoa whoa.

Speaker 6 (01:17:30):
Yeah, they were rowative.

Speaker 10 (01:17:38):
That's so cool. The babies too, that's christ though.

Speaker 6 (01:17:45):
Yeah, they were real cool.

Speaker 10 (01:17:46):
Like just maybe a hundred thirty yards.

Speaker 6 (01:17:52):
Yeah, whoa, he was guessing one hundred dollars at first,
but they were closer than that.

Speaker 10 (01:18:02):
Did I say something wrong the.

Speaker 6 (01:18:04):
Very first one, the very first Yeah, at first we
thought it was a person. Yeah, we got a thinking
about it. I don't think it was a coyote either.
That started them off, allen h that's but that was
really cool that we caught that like that. Me and
him both were standing there like, oh man, this is cool,

(01:18:27):
and we're up in the woods off trail. So that
was just my go pro footage. I had it on
to mainly to get audio and then sometimes I could
show a little bit where I'm shining the light.

Speaker 5 (01:18:42):
Yeah, so this is the first one right here though. Yeah,
that was kind of woo. It's kind of a weird.

Speaker 6 (01:19:00):
It does have more of us, almost like a human
sound to it.

Speaker 5 (01:19:07):
Yeah, yeah, that's weird. We've we've had that on some
some stuff too. You get like this weird, like a
weird call, and then they would set the coyotes off.

Speaker 6 (01:19:26):
But when pomps too, you have that was more often
the distance you heard that one first call that don't
sound right.

Speaker 5 (01:19:34):
Yeah, when you go back and listen to it, You're like,
I don't know what that was. It kind of sounded canine,
but canines have that very distinct tone to them. They
kind of, you know, the coyotes got the real yippy,
kind of barky yippie sound to their their vocals, and
then the the wolves and stuff we got up here
have more eerie kind of sound to them. But there's

(01:19:58):
something else there. So yep, awesome. It has been a
pleasure talking to you, man. I really like it, and
all your stuff and stories so very cool. And you
have you have a whole YouTube channel. Yeah, also about
what what else we can find on there and your

(01:20:19):
Facebook group.

Speaker 6 (01:20:20):
Yeah, because my channel is not just all big fist stuff.
I do fishing too, some fresh water we like to
hike to places and fish, but also do salt water
and my wife do saltwater fishing. We'll go over to
places like clear Water, Florida and fish. So I got
quite a few fishing videos on there. Yeah, I do

(01:20:42):
a lot of I've got like six tracking videos where
I talk about a lot of different tracking techniques and
tips and stuff like that, and then I'll do a
few survival survival videos where tips for survival, and I've
been going through all my gear too, and doing gear,
my videos on my gear, all the stuff I use

(01:21:05):
out there so very cool.

Speaker 5 (01:21:08):
Ye, So the stuff that you're finding here, how far
away from like we'll call it civilization are you? How
deep in the woods are you?

Speaker 6 (01:21:16):
Some areas are like a couple hours walk to get
in there, walking off trail or walking the trail and
then getting off trail and going Yeah. And I have
some some areas where it's taken me an hour to
get there once I get off trail and you can see,
like I'm going through all the different palmettos and stuff,

(01:21:37):
and it takes an hour to get up in there
to it. But then I have some places that's really
close to roads. I have an area that's really close
to the road that I think they're crossing under the bridge,
And you can't when you drive across the bridge, you
can't really see down there. You can't see you down
in there very good. And you would actually have to
be sitting in a passenger seat to really see anything

(01:21:58):
down there. And there I believe they're coming under the
bridge because I'm finding footprints on the there's a drivable
trail if you get a permit to go in there,
you can drive in there. Otherwise you got a walk.
But there's I've been finding footprints like maybe fifty to
sixty yards in starting like where they're coming under the bridge,

(01:22:22):
and then they're coming over to the roadway and they're
walking on the edge of the road, and I've been
finding their footprints going down along with you there anywhere
from ten innutes to twelve inches sixteen intes and then
even a cross from that a little further down. I've
followed their footprints eleven inches footprints before on an animal trail,

(01:22:44):
the deer trail, I've set cameras, game cameras up in there,
and I've caught deer crossing right through there. So there's
the food source. Plus there's a lot of wild hogs
in there that I think is a really good food
source for them. And then also really close to there
is one of the best tree structures I've ever seen.
It's got two trees like are parallel, coming from one

(01:23:07):
side and coming along and then it had an X
structure standing up at the end of the trees, and
the Hurricane Knee and a couple of years back took
part of it down, not part of it down, but
the first time I walked up in there to that
tree structure, actually I waited in the water to get
up into it. It was in a cypress swamp. It

(01:23:29):
was like towards the edge of a cypress swamp, and
the Trifield meter was going off crazy with the radio frequency,
like something was scanning us or watching us. They're close
and sometimes I think it's actually something scanning us giving
off the radio frequency. But the radio frequency was going
off real crazy, real high readings. Like I said, just

(01:23:51):
like you're standing beside your microwave with it running until
I touched the structure. When I've actually touched the structure,
it quit, the radio frequency quit.

Speaker 5 (01:24:03):
Yeah, that is insane. Did you did you like feel
like you're being watched or anything like that.

Speaker 6 (01:24:14):
I felt like we were being watched. Yeah, there's a
lot of times where I can actually to me, it's
like a sixth sense. I think a lot of the
Vietnam veterans got where they were having that sixth sense
of being watched. To me, it's kind of like that.
A lot of times I can feel and watching and
it becomes like a pressure on my head and I

(01:24:34):
can actually feel and watching one of the one of
the times I got hit with in for sound. I
could feel them, I could feel them watching us as
we were walking down the trail, and I couldn't tell
exactly where it was for a little bit. Once I
started pinpointing that they were off off to my left.
It's where it was coming from. And I stopped and

(01:24:54):
was looking that direction. I said, that's where it's coming from,
and it hit me with in for sound. Now, my
wife was standing right beside me, and it didn't hit
her with it, just me, and she was looking at
that direction because I was saying, it's I feel it
coming from that way. She was looking in that direction
and she saw something moving and she was standing there

(01:25:16):
telling me film that direction, Film that direction. And I
was standing there thinking about pulling my gun out because
I had my wife with me and the two other
female researchers, and I felt like a bear was coming
at me. That's how strong it was. And I was
sitting there thinking about pulling my gun out and being ready,
and as I was because I'm really calm in the woods,

(01:25:38):
and I just kept thinking, no, it's not a bear.
I've been hit with this before. I know what it is.
I know what's causing it, and I kept filming. I
was telling myself keep filming that direction, and I just
kept filming up in there. But I know it then
for sound affects people differently. It gave me a headache
for a couple hours time we got out of there

(01:26:01):
and then left and drove home. It was finally starting
to go away by the time I got home, But
it gave me like a migrant headache for a couple
of hours. But it was it was pretty strong, and
it it felt it felt just like a bear was
charging at me. Yeah, the feeling I was getting.

Speaker 5 (01:26:18):
Wow, I've heard that before from from firsthand and stuff,
and I've I've had like similar not similar experiences, but
I've gotten really sick while investigating with like a headache
and and just I don't know, that's interesting.

Speaker 7 (01:26:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:26:36):
One of my friends he feels it like that too,
like I do, but his is more of a pressure
in his ears. Okay, he's feeling the same thing, but
it'll actually make him more sick. It makes him more
sick too, like that. Yeah, he's actually had to sit
down and throw up and.

Speaker 7 (01:26:55):
Move.

Speaker 8 (01:26:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:26:55):
Yeah, kind of like a disorientation or nausea.

Speaker 6 (01:27:00):
Yeah, like nauseus.

Speaker 5 (01:27:01):
Yeah, that's that's the way mine was. Hum. Interesting. Yeah,
well I don't mean to change the topic. And uh,
but I I want to ask you this for first
of all, thank you very much for your service.

Speaker 6 (01:27:15):
Oh, thank you, Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:27:17):
And uh you mentioned Vietnam. So, so you were over
in Vietnam.

Speaker 6 (01:27:20):
Oh no, I wasn't. No, I wasn't in Vietnam. That
was over that was when I went in.

Speaker 5 (01:27:26):
Yeah, Okay, the Vietnam guys have gotten that sense. So
I thought, oh, you're in Vietnam.

Speaker 6 (01:27:33):
Okay, And actually they had. They had went to Grenada
Rot before I went in, because I went in right
out of high school. Okay, so I'll spend a couple
of years over in Germany.

Speaker 7 (01:27:44):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (01:27:45):
Interesting, Well you killed my question. I was going to
ask you if you heard anything about or you saw
any of the rock ape stuff over in Vietnam.

Speaker 6 (01:27:53):
Okay, I've heard about have.

Speaker 5 (01:27:58):
You have you heard any like firsthand stories or anything
from anybody I had to ask. You said Vietnam and
the military, so I thought maybe you were over there. Well,
Well again, thank you again, thank you for your service.
Thank you for all the work and stuff that you're doing,
and uh for coming on the show, I really appreciate it.

Speaker 7 (01:28:20):
Good.

Speaker 6 (01:28:20):
Yeah, I enjoyed it. Yeah, it's a lot of stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:28:24):
Yeah, yeah, that's absolutely And we've gone an hour and
a half here, so I don't I appreciate your time
and hanging around and going through all that stuff too.

Speaker 6 (01:28:33):
And long.

Speaker 5 (01:28:37):
There's a little timer up in the screen right up here,
and yeah, do you do you have anything else that
you want to talk about? You have any speaking engagements
or any events or anything that you're going to be
up or if somebody's had a sighting down in Florida
and would like to contact you. Uh, is there anything

(01:28:58):
coming up for you guys?

Speaker 6 (01:29:01):
Not really, not not that much right now when it's
getting really hot like it is right now too. I
don't I kind of been backing off a little bit
of going out.

Speaker 5 (01:29:10):
I don't blame you.

Speaker 6 (01:29:11):
I'll be going out here pretty soon with a friend
of mine, Joey. We'll be going out at night to
a spot where we were finding a lot of the
footprints and the last time we were setting up game
cameras and stuff there. We're going to go out there
at night here soon in a couple of weeks and
see if we can film anything at night. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:29:30):
Very interesting. Well my advice, my advice to you, not
that you need it, but take a take a Geiger
counor with you, okay, and see what you get. I mean,
it might just be very small fluctuations of background radiation
or something. But see see if any of your your
structures or anytime when you have activity, see if there's
any correlation with that as well. Because we've we've done
that a couple of times. And interesting, it seems like

(01:29:53):
something that you'd kind of be into and with with
your research on that.

Speaker 7 (01:29:57):
So it does.

Speaker 6 (01:29:58):
Yeah, yeah, because I like doing experiments all using different
technology like that a lot, trying to bring the science
part of it, quantum physics in and I've been been
trying to like like I'm not like real scientific as
far as quantum physics and doing the math and stuff
like that. I've just been studying a lot and learning

(01:30:19):
a lot about the the different things about it and
the light spectrum and all the different things to that.
So I try to teach a lot of stuff about
just the basic understanding of it just to get people's
not some knowledge about it. Yeah, and what we're.

Speaker 5 (01:30:33):
Doing Yeah, I hate people who try and throw Bigfoot
in like the WU paranormal category and stuff, because quantum
mechanics and stuff is science. And just because you know,
all the things that we're learning about, like the platypus
and the biofluorescence and how organisms glow and put out

(01:30:54):
a bio light, you know, like eating humans glow and
all the stuff that we're learning in your saying like,
oh Bigfoot can't be a flesh and blood animal because
it does all this weird stuff. Well, we don't know
what all the stuff that we can do even as
just humans, because we're continuing to learn about science. And
then and look at all the you know, people, the

(01:31:16):
mediums and stuff that are out there that can you know,
the monks and stuff that can vibrate and raise their energy.
And who's to say that all this stuff isn't just
natural and this this being has harnessed it more than
we're you know, at that level, and.

Speaker 6 (01:31:32):
That's just yeah, maybe I can use it more than
we do. Yeah, yeah, because there's a lot of a
lot of people out there have socic powers and actually
I think a lot of us do that we just
don't know it or we don't use it and we
don't learn to use it. Yeah, there's also been a
lot of studies. I'll do a lot of reading. I
do watch a lot of the videos and stuff like that.

(01:31:53):
There's been a lot of studies done at the universities
on that pschic powers and even where they just brought
people in that that don't normally have any kind of
power at all and done tests with them and then
had things happen and actually can record readings. They come
up with ways of recording the readings and can tell

(01:32:15):
that people are actually making psychic things happen. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:32:18):
Oh yeah, there's a lot of stuff, a lot of
scientific evidence that people go, oh oh, that's just you know,
crazy paranormal woo stuff. No, it's not gonna dig a
little deeper, yep.

Speaker 6 (01:32:30):
And I'll try to show everything. I'll try to show,
you know, everything that I find. I don't want to
just show something that you know, this could be just
a flesh and blood eight. I'm showing everything. It could
be paranormal, it could be spiritual, it could be something
that happened in the past, or something bleeding over from
the past into our timeline. It's there's a lot of
different things that could.

Speaker 5 (01:32:51):
Be absolutely well, this is a whole nother discussion. So
before we dig into this, I thank you so much
for your time. We're already at an hour and a half.
I will definitely have to have you come back and
you will dive deep into the weird and woo of
Bigfoot here and and more quant them and all that stuff.
But uh, for today, I think we're gonna leave it
here good. But thank thank you so much for coming on.

(01:33:18):
Thank you for your knowledge and all of your evidence
and stuff with us today.

Speaker 6 (01:33:22):
All right, thank you, thanks for having me on, baring.

Speaker 5 (01:33:24):
Me absolutely you take care man, Okay, thank you. All right, guys,
that is our show for today. Thank you so much
for joining us. Remember today was pre recorded, so if
your comments were ignored, not ignoring you, just not in
the studio. But check it out. And if you're again
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(01:33:46):
can see all the pictures and evidence and everything from
this episode. And then otherwise, head on over to Tim's
YouTube channel which is in the show notes, and you
can check that out and watch all of his videos
and more of his evidence as well, and He has
a Facebook group for you guys to check out and
see more of his cool stuff. Until next time, guys,
thank you all for watching, Thank you all for tuning in.

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