Monsters on the Edge #123 Bigfoot of Sussex County with Guest Michael Familant

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All right, guys, Coming up, we have Silcon in Gays,
Illinois coming up the September nineteenth and twentieth. I'm gonna
be down there doing a presentation on the Heightened Adventure.
We have the Heightened Adventure exhibit is going to be
on display as well. That is showcasing bigfoot activity in
Upper Peninsula of Michigan. So if you guys have not

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got a chance to see the traveling exhibit. Head on
down there to Silkon. We will be there Friday and
Saturday in Gays, Illinois, and then coming up in two
weeks or three weeks, we are going to be at
the Van Meter Visitor Festival September twenty seventh in Van Meter, Iowa.
We are doing paranormal tours of Wisconsin's premieer Haunted Gentlemen's

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Club in Macville, Wisconsin. With over a one hundred year
haunted history of the building. It has been passed down
for three generations before finally being sold to its current owners.
There are over four reported deaths in the building and
we have had activity you name it, from EVPs to
full bodied apparitions to all kinds of stuff in the building.

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We have always had very exciting tours and investigations. So
if you're interested doing something spooky this October or coming
up this month, we have a few tours as well,
head on over to Haunted Beansnappers dot com and click
on the spooky side. Coming up on October sixteenth, I
will be at the Shanno County Library, October twenty second

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the Brownsville Public Library, and the twenty fifth at the
Nina Public Library. All these events are free to the
public and are exploring the paranormal. So we are going
to talk about all things paranormal, how to use your equipment,
how to stay safe, and how to conduct paranormal investigations,
as well as share some evidence that we have captured

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with the CAPS team. And then after each of these presentations,
we are going to be doing actual investigations of the libraries.
Both Brownsville Public Library and Shanno Public Library have given
me some activities that have happened at the library, so
we're going to be looking into some weird stuff that's happened. There.
Going to be a great time. And then guys, coming

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up Fondlac, Wisconsin, May eighth through the tenth, we are
at CAPCN Wisconsin. Coming up here at the end of
the show, we are going to be going over the
first guest announcements. But I don't want to waste any
more time before we get into the show today, so
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All right. My guest today is Mike Famlan. He is
a thirty six year old past emt firefighter and graphic designer.
He is a full time bigfoot researcher, producer, and lead
investigator from northwest New Jersey. He first got into big
footing in twenty eleven on an expedition in North Florida,
where him and a friend experienced rocks being thrown at

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them while sitting around a campfire. Since then, he has
made it his personal goal to find out exactly what
is roaming the woods of America. In twenty sixteen, after
becoming frustrated with the lack of true research expedition shows
on TV, he created his own show called In the
Shadow of Big Red Eye. The show is currently filming

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its ninth season. In twenty eighteen, Mike also created the
docu series called Squatchables, which was created for people who
are just getting into bigfooting sort of a bigfooting one
oh one. With a passion for bigfoot bigfooting and a
history in video editing, he decided to make his first

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real show about what expeditions are truly about. You'll see
raw uncut footage of what bigfooting actually is. If there
is one thing that he hopes people will gain from
the show, it's uh family and friends to get off
the couch and outside into nature and explore what the
amazing world has to offer. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome

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Mike to the show. Mike, thanks for being here.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
Hey, how's everybody doing. Thanks for having me so much.
I really appreciate being here, and no worries about the
technical difficulties. All happens, but I'm just glad that we're
here and we're chatting.

Speaker 4 (08:21):
Absolutely, I'm glad to have you here. Man, it's so
good to talk to you. So tell us where do
you want to begin with this? Like I said, you've
you've told your story of how you got into this.
Tell me a little bit about your background, because you know,
like with being an EMT and you know, firefighter and
stuff like that, a lot of our professional workers, police

(08:42):
officers and stuff are trained in observation. So I'm sure
this has helped you a lot, like going forward and
with your big footing one on one and stuff, you know,
being able to teach people proper observation techniques and you know,
being present in the moment because with any of the police,
MT firefighting and stuff, there's so much risk involved in

(09:04):
that that your your technique and stuff can carry over
into the Big footing.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
You nailed it on the head and being present in
the moment. That's what that taught me is with all
the hectic activities and everything that can go on during
the course of a shift working as an EMT firefighter,
you always have to stay present within the moment. And
that's helped me so much along my big Foot journey
because when I've when I found activity, when I found
these footprints, I didn't you know, I didn't freak out

(09:30):
and I didn't like do something crazy. I didn't mess
him up. You know, when I document everything, I go
into it like like with with protocols and with like Okay,
this is how investigation should be should be done. This
is what I need to do to be able to
film my show. This is how what key points we
need to hit when we investigate, Like this is where
I want to get. All that stuff is all planned out.

(09:50):
It's very it's it's very intensive the way I go
about expeditions, and that's mostly in part because of my
training as an EMT fighter paramedic.

Speaker 4 (10:01):
Absolutely, and also the documentary filming and film editing and stuff.
I mean for myself, you know, we do we do
much the same thing with the shows and just more.
You know, I've heard you talk about how you didn't
like watching television shows because every time they play audio
like a Bigfoot howl, there's music playing in the background.
And I got a hand it to you, man. That

(10:23):
is one of the things that has ticked me off
the most about watching any paranormal or stuff is this
dramatic music, like, oh did you hear that? No, you
were playing music over the top of it. So being
a video editor and stuff too, you're filming from the
perspective of how to tell the story when you present.

Speaker 3 (10:43):
It right right. And I think what sets my show
kind of apart from really every other show that's out
there about Bigfooting is I do everything myself, like I
from the you know, from pre filming, from expedition planning
all the way up to host editing and advertising and
marketing and stuff like that. Everything is done solely by

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me and my manager and my good friend Jill, who
helps out a lot. But without I mean, I don't
have a production crew. There's nobody that comes out in
films with me. There's nobody that helps me with the
editing process, nobody that does YouTube stuff. It's all self taught.
I've all taught this myself. And that's another thing that
like that big Footing has done for me. That's kind

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of like a you know, an unthought of thing. Is like,
what other stuff besides just you know, get out in
the woods. Is big footing done for you? And for me,
it's like, you know, yeah, the video editing and stuff
like that, but I've I've gotten into like phishing and
hiking and stuff like that, all stuff that I wouldn't
have never done if I didn't go on my first
big footing expedition. You know, I can now like, semi Okaylee,

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rub two sticks together and make a fire.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Semi okay Lee.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
I like that.

Speaker 4 (11:55):
Yeah, I've always said, you.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Know, depend on it, but you know there's a chance.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
I've I've I think we're kind of about this in
the same boat with all this stuff because I've always
I grew up in the city. I've never gone camping
growing up or anything. The first time I went camping
was because of Bigfoot, and I always said The only
way you're gonna get me in the woods to go
camping is if I'm looking for Bigfoot and lo and behold,
this is how it go. And I think that that
your kind of origin story kind of fell along that

(12:27):
same line as well.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Right, it's very similar, very similar. Growing up always indoors,
you know, uh, and I just never never experienced outdoors.
It's just I never never had the inkling to, never
wanted to, and it wasn't just not part of my radar.
And you know, I remember the first big Foot trip.

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It was. It was me and my buddy Jimmy, and
I have never packed a car. I packed like I
can fit a lot of stuff in my car. This
car was packed so much. We brought the kitchen and
I think we did bring a kitchen, sick like that's
how that's how like packed this thing was. We knew
absolutely nothing. We were I remember Jimmy, it was like

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hanging up this tarp like for rain and stuff, and
somebody just like walked over and was just looking at
us and was just like, are you guys okay? We're like, yeah, yeah,
we got it. We're just banging a tarp, you know.
But you know, it's a learning experience too, you know.
Now now you know I can do backpacking trips and
bring you know, fourteen pounds of gear and be set

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for a week, which is amazing to me. It's crazy
to me too, But all because a bigfoot. It's it's
the point I love distressed at people, especially like with
my presentations and my programs that I do, is it's
it's all about getting off the couch and into nature.
You know, that's my mission statement, and it's it's just
it's so near and dear to my heart because, like
I said, like you, it was just you know, never

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never an option or never a never thing as a kid.

Speaker 4 (14:01):
Well, let me talk about this when you talk about
your fourteen pounds of stuff that you bring out with
you being an EMT and you know, having that background
and stuff, you got to look at like all the
dangers that can happen out there. Yeah, well, what is
it that you put in that pack to keep you
safe for your your week out there backpacking?

Speaker 3 (14:22):
Well not a lot. Turns out, I had a little
incident over the weekend last weekend with a knife and
it kind of I don't know if you could see,
but it was not doing too good for a hot
minute there, and it turns out I do not have
that great of a first aid kit as I thought
I had because a lot of stuff was missing because

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I've just picked at it. So I have to go through.
That's that's on my list to do today is go
through my first aid kid and restock because I was
I was a leaker for a little while there.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
So what do you have in there? Or what would
someone have in there?

Speaker 3 (15:01):
I guess I should say what should somebody have in there?
Just basic stuff? You know, you got to think of
like ABC's airway breathing circulation, So what are the things
that you can fix when you're out in the in
the woods. It's not gonna be airway because you're too
far away to carry oxygen and stuff like that. You're
not gonna do CPR for an extended period of time,
no offense, I mean, it's just the nature of the beast.

(15:21):
So you don't need to bring anything like that. But
basic first aid stuff, band aids obviously good. Neosporn infection
is a big thing, especially when you're out in the
woods for an extended period of time, so you want
to stay clean, sterile water or any kind of water
to clean out the infections. You know, don't plan on
ri instant in a stream. That's probably not the best idea.

(15:43):
Just like you know, I wouldn't suggest you drink from
a stream either, but if you need to, you need
to type of thing. But yeah, some off the wall
things that I do carry and probably shouldn't be And
I'm no longer an EMT so I guess I could
say this, but I carry like duct tape and super
glue because that'll stop bleeding for a lot longer and

(16:05):
than than a band aid will. So again, not not
from professional medical advice, coming from from Mike on this
lovely afternoon, but uh yeah, but other than gauze band aids,
I carry a tourniquet just in case.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (16:21):
They're they they're cheap and you can get them right
on Amazon, and they're they're I mean, they're worth their
weight in gold, really, especially if something happens to you. Yeah,
that's that's it. Wound clotter, Uh, I have that. It's
like it's like this sand that if you're bleeding really good,
you could put it on there that stops the blood
from from coming out. That's always. That's that's good. To

(16:44):
have in there, but another scissors, you know that kind
of uh all just sorts of bandages all, you know,
general stuff.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Lisays, And I've heard this from somewhere else as well.
Spiderwebs will stop will help stop the bleed.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Oh I've never heard that.

Speaker 4 (17:02):
Yeah, I don't know if it's true or not, but
I have heard that before, like from survivalists and stuff.

Speaker 3 (17:08):
But interesting. Hopefully we'll never never have to try that
one out.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
I think that if you get the spider on there too,
they kind of like help and knit it up. I
don't know.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
Yeah, and then you can turn into Spider Man after
it bites you, and you'll be good to go. You'll
be invincible forever.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Absolutely. There you go. That's that sounds like a worthy
goal for this weekend living. So what what do you
do now? You you you travel around and you do
these these shows and stuff. And I think this is
really interesting because you know you have said that you
figure out where you want to go to research and

(17:46):
then try and get your your presentations and stuff booked
in that area. Is this what you do full time?

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Then?

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Like, how's how's that work?

Speaker 3 (17:54):
Yeah? Yeah, full time job? I do average about ninety
presentations per year and that will you know, what I'll
do is I'll just pick, like say, I like to
go to Indiana. Indiana is really cool. It's one of
my favorite states. So each year I go there and

(18:16):
I'll pick an area in Indiana, and what I'll do
is pick a base camp and I'll email every library
in that whatever area that I choose and if they
book me, cool, If not, then we'll go to a
different area. But uh, and then we'll kind of strategically
pick where we're going to go camping and film the
show and look for Bigfoot at the same time. So

(18:36):
it's it's it's pretty cool. It's like it's it's a
win win because not only am I, you know, funding
my my my touring across the country and being able
to provide gas buddy, which is cool and they eat
stuff which is neat. Also, you know, I am capable
of seeing the country and meeting people and filming the show.

(18:56):
And that's that's one of the things, especially the meeting people.
I have that so many people. I've been doing this
full time for four years and I just you know,
there's so many people that I've met along the way
and said, you know, best friends to this day. I
can't I can't say anything anything more about that.

Speaker 4 (19:14):
That's that's really cool. I think that, you know, I've
met a lot of the bigfooters and the paranormal people
and stuff, you know, these celebrities and stuff that you
see on TV and that, and I think it's really
interesting to point out. And you know, I this might
you know, get some flack in that, but all of
the cryptied people, like all the quote unquote TV personality

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and stuff that I've I've friended on Facebook and met,
I've become friends with and talked to. And the paranormal
side seems to have a little bit more of like
this ego and stuff that people are too good to
be friends with you on Facebook and stuff. But all
the cryptied people, like anybody that that you know, has
been just absolutely amazing, been on the show, you know,

(19:56):
friends talk on Facebook, all that stuff, and it's it's
a one orful group of people. But I want to
come back and just show this because this is your
your itinerary for this past was this this is this year?

Speaker 3 (20:09):
That's this year.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
Yeah, ones that you have been to and stuff, and
a lot of these are crossed off. We're getting to
the end of the year, but this is this is
what we got coming up yet, so a lot of
New Jersey, Pennsylvania, North Carolina in there, so.

Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah, yeah, there's there's some good stuff coming up. We
got Denton, North Carolina, the Wood Booger Festival coming up
at the end of this month, which is I'm MC
and I'm hosting the whole thing. It's going to be
really really ridiculous. What else we got? And then we
got yeah, just some libraries coming up we have let

(20:47):
me get my schedule just to see while we're while
we're talking about it, we got, oh, this weekend, if
anybody's New Jersey local, I'm at the Randolph Country Fair
which is in Randolph, New Jersey. I'm gonna be speaking
there at two o'clock this Saturday. And then we got
a we got a bunch of a bunch of New

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Jersey libraries coming up in October, which is going to
be super fun. And then we're kind of closing out
the year at the New Jersey Pair of Uni Expo
in Woodbridge, which is Uh. I've met so many really
just out upstanding and amazing people there and I can't
wait to do it again. Mike who puts it on

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and is just and Chris. They're just amazing people. So
it's gonna be so much fun.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
Absolutely, we will come back. We got more to talk
about on that with your whole next year stuff as well.
We'll get to go. But you got you got so
much cool stuff coming up. But tell me a little bit.
I don't know what this is. Oh, that's a new
Jersey joke. Okay, exit.

Speaker 3 (21:49):
Yeah, I'm not on an exit. Actually, go figure.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
I know.

Speaker 4 (21:54):
That's a new Jersey joke. All right.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
I was.

Speaker 4 (21:56):
I was confused as to that.

Speaker 3 (21:58):
I was like, no, user, I got you, I got.

Speaker 4 (22:01):
You context here. Yeah all right, So what do you
talk about in your presentations? Tell me a little bit
about that.

Speaker 3 (22:11):
It's kind of like the same thing that you talk
about in your presentations, which I find really intriguing, except
more of the cryptid stuff. It's I try to answer
the who, what, when, where, and why of why I
look for a Bigfoot and I don't. There's there's absolutely
no no, no like pushing of Bigfoot's real. There's no

(22:34):
there's no I think you should believe this. It's it's
it's all about I challenge people to for for two
things out of my presentation, uh to to to have
an open mind, leave with an open mind, with the
possibility that anything could happen and anything's out there. I
think that's so important in life, just not even for
cryptids or just in life in general. Is so important.

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And get outside and into nature, see something, just see
something different, you know what I mean. It's as we
said before, and I hate to nail on the topic
so much, but it's so near and dear to my
heart that we're growing growing up inside video games, TV screens, movies.
You know, that was it. That was my life for

(23:17):
you know, twenty something years never explored and enjoyed nature,
and I missed out on so much. You know, I
missed out on it. That's why I think I do
what I do now is to try to you know,
make up for lost time, I suppose, and see everything
that I couldn't see because I started so late that
that's just a realization I had, jeez, Monday afternoon realizations

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here on the Untold Radio Network.

Speaker 4 (23:47):
So one of the things that I like to ask
people is, you know, we talk about we don't want
to talk about all the other stuff that everybody else
talks about. So what I want to know is what
is it that you think that you've learned so far?
You've traveled all over from Florida to New Jersey and
Indiana all these places, So what have you learned about

(24:07):
these creatures? What do you think that you know, like
behavioral patterns, family patterns, anything that you think that you've
learned or in your research come across.

Speaker 3 (24:17):
That's great. Yeah, So because I do, I travel so much,
it's difficult for me to focus my research in one area.
And I don't stay I stay a week at a
location before moving on to a different location. So it's
very difficult for me to really get in depth and
study any specific sort of area. But what I like

(24:39):
to do is I do a lot of research in
New Jersey since that's kind of like my home area.
And I do a lot of research in Sussex County,
New Jersey, which is cool. Sussex County actually has We
just actually had the New Jersey State Fair where I
picked up. I almost almost doubled the number of bigfoot

(24:59):
sightings in Sussex County just by setting up with the
state Fair. People came up and forty people came up
and shared their Bigfoot experience that they never shared ever
before forty people that we have seventy one current sightings
in Sussex County, New Jersey, which is the highest east
of the Mississippi. Super cool, But from looking at the numbers,

(25:19):
you can actually go If you go to my website
at shadow offredeye dot com, scroll all the way to
the bottom of that, you could click on this map
and you could read each individual. Each pin on the
map represents a Bigfoot sighting. And what I've learned over
the years of looking at and interviewing witnesses and plotting

(25:39):
these things in a map, which I think is very important.
I think every researcher should have a map with the
research area with sightings on it. I've learned that bigfoot
seem to follow the gas lines and the power lines,
which is not a new concept to anybody, but you
put some numbers behind it. Seventy percent of bigfoot sightings
in Sussex County, New Jersey happened within one mile of

(26:03):
this major gas line that runs through the county. So again,
if you're a researcher in your area, you know, instead
of you know, randomly just popping out in the woods,
somewhere maybe try to try to research that gas line
or power line to see if you can find any
footprints or hear vocalizations. It's there's a lot of food
sources for bigfoot along that those areas. Of course, do

(26:26):
it legally, you know, I know some some places there
are you're not allowed to do that, so legally of course,
but yeah, that and also you know zooming out from
Sussex County. Sightings of bigfoot increase eighty percent every third
year in the state of New Jersey. So why you
know that's we have to ask that question. As a researcher,

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you once you have that number in front of you,
you have to you have to ask why. So I
think like and you know, if people don't agree, you
know whatever, I'm glad you have your own opinion. So
I think bigfoot are biological creatures. I think they're here
on this planet like we are, like a like a
chicken or a duck or a turkey or what have you.

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But with that being said, the bigfoot need to eat
stuff and need to you know, have have patterns with
and what I take if you take a big foot
sighting map and you overlay it with a bear population map.
We they're almost they're almost exactly the same. Right, So

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for example, New North Jersey, sixth County, New Jersey has
the highest density of black bear population east of the Mississippi,
we have the highest number of bigfoot sightings east of
the Mississippi. That's cool and that makes sense. So where
there's black bear, there's people. Why what do black bear
have that bigfoot have? Also, I think it's very similar appetite,

(27:52):
So I think they eat very similar things. So what's
what bears? The They berries, right, mostly berries, bushes seventy
percent of their diets. That's that's what they consist of.
So so you have these these two things eating very
similar things. You have to look at you know where
these where these things are found, you have you have
a bear out.

Speaker 4 (28:12):
Where you are up north?

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yeah, yeah, and I think that's that's bigfoot has been
seen up up that way as well. You could take
any state overlay the bear population map. It's very cool.
But yeah, so so you take that number eighty percent
of those sightings. What's super interesting is that happen every
third year. So what's you take a little bit of
biology and you put it behind these sightings? Right, if

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you take a berry bush, which we think bigfoot eats
all the time, and you strip it completely so there's
no berries left on it. Three years for that berry
bush to grow berries again. I think bigfoot are nomadic,
which means they follow the food source kind of like
like we used to as people did back in the day,
so they would make sense Bigfoot may do the same

(29:02):
thing as well.

Speaker 4 (29:05):
That is interesting. I like that every three years.

Speaker 3 (29:08):
Yeah, yeah, it's and it's it's not like it's eighty percent.
I mean, let's that's not like, that's not oh, it's
like a fifty two percenter you know, No, no, no,
it's you know, eighty percent is a substantial number.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
So when you're talking about the three year berry bush,
which which berry is, is that all berries.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
All but most most every barrier and most every berry
bush shares the same common traits as a three year,
three year cycle thing. Yeah, some some don't, don't get
me wrong. There's like Mountain Laurel, and there's some other
there's some other bushes that that don't follow that. But
generally speaking, I think that's with with any plant really,
usually it takes about three years to regrow its berries

(29:50):
and stuff. I didn't know, yeah, especially when when it's
picked anyway. Yeah, I don't know, maybe I could be wrong,
but that's what I've been researching.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
We are live Grandizer, So if you have any questions
or comments, throw them in the comments section and we
will we will get to them as soon.

Speaker 3 (30:09):
As we can. So super live right now.

Speaker 4 (30:12):
Yeah, we are here in studio taking your questions and comments.

Speaker 3 (30:16):
Whoever you're looking at.

Speaker 4 (30:18):
Yep. Well, this is an interesting thing is you're not
the first person to bring up the fact that these
things also follow the gas lines and stuff. So now,
I you know, anybody can correct me if you're wrong here.
But I don't know of anywhere in Wisconsin where we
have these gas lines or pipelines and stuff. I know

(30:40):
other people have talked about states in that. But is
this like an above ground pipe or is it just
a power line cut.

Speaker 3 (30:48):
It's like it's pretend to take a power line cut
and just don't take any power lines, take the power
lines out of it. So it's just like that it's
below it's a gas line that's below the ground. And
this one actually extends from basically New York City all
the way out into the Pocono Mountains and it's clear cut,
so there's a there's just a I mean a straight line,

(31:10):
straight shot of highway for a bigfoot to walk to
get from point A to point B. Found interruption.

Speaker 4 (31:17):
That's awesome. Yeah, I agree with this, and that's that's
really interesting because I don't know. I would assume that
these things are following be you know, these areas because
they're an open area, big corridor that they can move down.
But I don't know if there's anything else because I've
heard people talk also about like the power lines themselves

(31:38):
as a reason why they're there, and I don't I
don't know why that would be either.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Yeah, I'm not sure. I mean that you could get
into other other philosophies of bigfoot when it comes to
powered energy and orbs and everything like that, but uh,
I don't. I don't really dip my toes too far
into that those theories just because I've not that I
don't believe in them. I just never experienced them. So
I'm just going with what I've experienced, and I want

(32:07):
it to be very clear. I'm totally open. I would
love for the day to see Bigfoot disappear in front
of me. Love for it. I would blow my mind.
I would be so happy, I would be I would
I would be so happy, I think I would cry.
But that would change my whole philosophy. But that's important though.
I think everybody should keep that. Like I said in
the beginning, my whole thing is keeping an open mind

(32:29):
about everything. You know, any anything's possible. So anyways, I'm
sorry to go on that tangent a little bit.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
No, absolutely, you can go on whatever tangent you want.
I think I think it's really important when we're talking
about like research and stuff. A lot of people say
trail cameras, you know, possibly they can hear them, smell them,
see them, stuff like that. I think that these power
line cuts are an amazing opportunity because you have all
this straight energy, all this electrical noise and stuff off

(32:57):
the high high power lines, stuff like that. That if
you could get trail cameras on the edge of these
power line cuts or right on the power line poles
or something as well, uh that this is a huge
opportunity to watch anything that's moving through that area, and
the the sound and smell of the power lines themselves
are going to try and cover up a lot of

(33:17):
that little battery power that's running your your trail cameras.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
That's so true. Yeah, I'm I'm of the philosophy Bigfoot
has the capabilities of seeing like the ir that the
trail cameras produce. However, if you try to mask that
anyhow somewhat differently, that's that's always going to be, you know,
always going to be a a better opportunity to to

(33:44):
to see, you know, to get that, to get that
awesome trail camera.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
Photo Sussex County Bigfoot, which is you, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (33:55):
Yeah, that's yeah, Yeah, you can see how good I
am I have the I am.

Speaker 4 (34:03):
I noticed that. I noticed this.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Yeah, that is my my wonderful manager, Jill at the
at the at the behind the keyboards over there. Yeah,
thanks thanks Jill.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Jill says it is also less traveled areas as well,
because people are not allowed in a lot of these areas.
I think that's that's important as well. You know these
sometimes these power line areas are are fenced off for
something as well, if they're close to the power stations
and that so yeah, absolutely, Okay, we have a lot
of questions popping up here all of a sudden now
that people realize that we're actually in studio, so let's

(34:36):
go back up here. Stuph would like to know. Okay,
so what about the reports of bigfoot hunting deer.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
That's great, So I guess going back to like talking
about eating what they with their diet is it's it's
very common for bear to not attack deer as well. However,
they will do it if the opportunity arises. I don't
think bigfoot is going to, even in a family group
with hunting tactics. It wouldn't make sense for a bigfoot

(35:06):
to chase down a deer. The calories that it outputs
are just not worth what the deer is going to
give them, especially a group of bigfoot that's going to
be hunting the deer. Right, it's not just not going
to give them enough calories. But you pick at berries
all day long, you get hundreds of pounds of berries
in your system, just like bears. Do you know it's

(35:26):
very rare that bears bears will kill like a rabbit.
I'm sure. I'm sure bigfoot do. I'm sure bigfoot pick
frogs like it's like shish kebabs, you know, absolutely, But yeah,
but I don't think they would. I think they're smart
enough not to You don't see human hunters, you know,
chasing down deer to try to catch them. I don't
think you know, even though bigfoot are substantially better than us,
I don't think they would chase down a deer most

(35:48):
of the time either.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
Have you got any reports of hunters I've heard them
before that like they'll shoot a deer and then when
they go and track it down, bigfoot's there and rips
like it in half and stuff like that. Have you
got any of those out in New Jersey.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
No, I can't say I've interviewed anybody that has that encounter.
I've interviewed a bunch of hunters, though, and I find
this fascinating that a have never been in the woods
or I've been in the woods all their whole lives hunting,
I've never seen a big foot, and then they see
one that's cool and it changes their their whole life philosophy.

(36:26):
But I've also talked to the hunters that have had
big foot in their crosshairs and cannot pull the trigger.
Why because it's too human, Like they think they're gonna
they think they're gonna catch a charge. And that's not
something that any hunter is should be capable of doing.

(36:47):
I know there's there's people out there say, oh, I'm
out there just to shoot a big foot. You know,
good for you if you if you do, you're lucky,
you know. But that's not me. I'm not I'm not
that person.

Speaker 4 (37:03):
All right, got back up here. All right? So, uh,
grand iSER says, welcome to the show. Apologies if you
already covered this. But why does Bigfoot fascinate you besides
your encounter? Or was the encounter enough? Were you always
interested in Bigfoot?

Speaker 3 (37:18):
Sa squatch? Now? It wasn't. It wasn't until in North
Florida where I got my rocks thrown at me. Was
was my my first real encounter with Bigfoot. I mean,
I honestly watched the TV show to be interested enough
to go on this thing, but because it was a
BFIRO expedition. But it really Uh. I think why I'm
into it so much is because it's it's unique. It's

(37:42):
not a it's not a thing. Two, I'm I never
have enjoyed working for somebody. I know that'sund but I
like doing what I do, like I own my own company,
Like I I'm working for myself. I make my own hours,
which is terrible because I work literally eighteen hours a day,

(38:06):
but that's part of it. But to answer your question,
it fascinates me because I get to see the country.
That's why I love to do it. It's not about
looking for a big for me, for me anyway, it's
it's about it's not about the finding, it's about the journey.
And it's you know, I'm not I If I do

(38:30):
find bigfoot, hey cool, that's awesome. I'll let you know.
You know, one of those things, But uh, I'm not.
You know, I don't. I don't go out in the
woods and sit in silence for eight hours in the
dark and hope that bigfoot comes out. Why Because that's
not fun to me. I am in this to have
fun and have a good time and enjoy life. That's

(38:52):
what it's all about. You only get one of these things,
you might as well have a good time doing it.
That's why I do bigfooting.

Speaker 4 (38:59):
Let me ask you this, when when you go out
and go on these expeditions and travel around and stuff,
have you ever run across any other weird cryptids or
anything we you know? Have you been to Pennsylvania. There's
a lot of thunderbird sightings and stuff out in that area.
And then obviously the dog man and stuff is kind
of over in that area as well. Have you run
into any evidence or anything that you'd consider other cryptids

(39:22):
out there?

Speaker 3 (39:23):
So yeah, Now, so here's the thing. So I spent
one hundred and thirty nine nights last year alone tent
camp and looking for Bigfoot. So and I put myself
And I don't mean that, I don't. I'm not bragging.
That's that's borderline homelessness, So I'm not trying to brag
about that at all. However, I was. I was doing

(39:44):
it by choice, so that counts. But the thing is,
I put myself in the scenario to have any any
of above said creatures and interact with me. That's that's
why I'm out there. My main focus is Bigfoot. But
I don't think you know, if you're out there looking

(40:04):
for bigfoot dog man's and be like, oh, he's not
looking for me, never mind, you know, I'm gonna I'll
just go harass somebody else is not gonna happen like that.
So I think it's But to answer your question, I
have never come across anything that I cannot relate to
be bigfoot. So does that mean that there's not things
out there. No, But have I come across anything? Absolutely not?

Speaker 4 (40:31):
What about I know, I know that you talked about
some of your early expeditions in Florida. You talked about
finding the Florida panther footprints and steam. Have you ever
come across any of the black panthers?

Speaker 3 (40:43):
No, No, I haven't. It would that would be really cool.
The only panther incident I've had really besides finding that
the foot the Mountain lion footprint in Maryland, which they
say they don't exist there obviously, but was when actually
we were down the Everglades this past year and that place.

(41:03):
If you ever want to see a big cat, go
down to the Everglades, because the Florida panthers there are
like they're like they're like flies and mosquitoes. So yeah,
it's it's definitely a crazy thing. Uh. Never, that's the
closest encounter and I've I've come across never anything black
panther or anything. That'd be super cool to see.

Speaker 4 (41:23):
Though, when you when you go down to these places
like you've talked about, like finding alligators and panthers and
stuff like that out on the Southern trips and that,
do you have any kind of protection or anything when
you go out with them.

Speaker 3 (41:38):
No, used to carry bear mace. Had a little incident.
Don't do that anymore. So now the only thing I
carry with me is a knife, and it's only it's
a little it's a it's not you know, it's not
like a rambo thing bear girls type of knife. It's
just a it's just a you know, a common little

(41:58):
pocket knife. And I've never really had to need to
use it, besides obviously when I just cut my thumb open,
So that was cool. That's the only time it's ever
been in something that it shouldn't have been.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
So, you know, it's funny. But I have heard more
bear mace stories going bad than actually ever people using
them on bears.

Speaker 3 (42:21):
Yeah, yeah, that's pretty accurate. Yeah, it's that was not.
If anybody wants to see me getting sprayed with bear mace,
it's on my YouTube. Just search bear mace.

Speaker 4 (42:35):
I think I think that's your billion dollar video right there.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
I don't know how that hasn't gone viral. To be
honest with you, man, me falling over a fire drake
got more views and me getting bear mace. That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (42:49):
That's just shows you how terrible the world is in
the internet, is all right. We have a lot of
questions you're piling up, all right, I'm wondering if you've
ever encountered other bigfoot hunters that are not with you
or your group hunting at the same time. I often
wonder if calls people could here could be other bigfoot groups.

Speaker 3 (43:09):
So yeah, a little funny story I've I was out
researching one evening and we were doing bigfoot calls in
this area, and the next morning I had gotten an
email saying, Mike, last night I heard these crazy hows
through the woods, and I looked up where she was,

(43:31):
and I looked up where we were, and there's no
way that she did not just report me doing bigfoot calls,
which is the most awesome thing I think that's ever happened.
But then, really the reality of it is the woods
are a big place, and if you have two research
groups that are at the same area at the same time,

(43:52):
they're probably there to mess with each other, or they're
working together. They know that each other's there, and they're
doing different tactics and calls back and forth. Be that's
that's hopefully the reason the other the other reason is
if if you have two people, is the whole messing
with each other and trying to ruin everybody's evidence, and
that that I don't think that happens often, and when

(44:13):
it does, you could pretty much with with some easy,
easy uh uh sound sound analyzation, you can rule out humans.
That's that's an easy way to do that as well,
if you have any questions about if it's human or not.

Speaker 4 (44:28):
That's a very good point. I use Sonic Visualizer, and
it's really interesting to look at these calls that if
a person does a bigfoot call, the vocal goes across
the whole spectrum through a lot of the different ranges,
whereas the what I would consider is real calls of
bigfoot are very localized in the bottom range. So it's

(44:50):
it's really interesting to to see like the difference of
looking at it visually on a graph and stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
It is cool. It's cool seeing you can see that.
I mean, and I love it too because I don't
know about you, but I record a lot of audio
when I go out, so you can really especially overnight,
if you don't want to listen to everybody snorting, you
could see what their snores look like and just kind
of fast forward through it. It makes it makes you know,
it makes it an eight hour clip into like thirty

(45:18):
minutes of listening. It's wonderful, very good.

Speaker 4 (45:22):
I look at audio more than I listened to it first.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
I know. Isn't that awkward?

Speaker 4 (45:26):
Yeah, it sounds funny for people that don't understand what
that means. But yeah, all right, let's see A grandizer says,
what do you think is the golden age of Sasquatch research?
If so? Or do you think there is a golden age?
If so, what decade or era is it the current
times or have we not seen it yet?

Speaker 3 (45:49):
That's a good question. Everything is always evolving, so it's
hard to say if there's a golden era, if we've
had one, or if there's about to be one. I
think living right now is really at the most interesting
stage of bigfoot research, because within the next five years,
I personally believe we will know if there's a big

(46:10):
foot beyond a reasonable doubt or if there's not. With
all the technology that's going to become available to and
not only the Bigfoot researchers but everybody else, chances are
we're going to come across something that has to do
with bigfoot within the lat next five years. Now. With
that being said, this right now is really cool because

(46:33):
of that advancing technology. You know, we're getting to play
with all the cool stuff that ten years ago is
way too expensive for anybody else. Now we're you know,
we're still not in that like like the we don't
know yet, but we we we we're trying to find out.
It's that. It is, it's the it's the golden age
of exploration right now, especially when it comes in terms

(46:54):
of bigfoot research.

Speaker 4 (46:58):
Do you think this is my question to you here,
do you think that you know, I don't know, if
you're familiar with a lot of the UFO stuff and
the disclosure stuff going on with the government and everything,
do you think that there's a chance that the government
does already know about these creatures? And if so, do
you think that any of this might come forward through

(47:18):
disclosure with the stuff that Annapolina Luna is doing with
the disclosure and the JFK files and the UFOs and stuff,
do you think bigfoot might be part of that?

Speaker 3 (47:29):
So? Okay, so here here's my little I try to
avoid the G word because that's you know, the G word,
but since you brought it up. I think if Bigfoot
is alive and real, the government does know about Bigfoot
and has studied them, tested them, is knowledgeable, has somebody

(47:51):
somebody knows something about them? Right now, with that being said,
is Bigfoot is Is the government gonna knowledge the existence
of this creature? I don't believe so. Why because there's
one big reason and that that is if Bigfoot, if

(48:11):
the government does acknowledge Bigfoot, it's going to be an
endangered species. Right So where and where is Bigfoot mostly
witnessed or found? What's their habitat is the Pacific Northwest?
Right So what is the major economic development in the
Pacific Northwest? Logging? It's going to shut down all of

(48:34):
logging across the BMW PNW and it's going to ruin that.
That's logging is like the number one source of income
for the United States. Like, that's We're not going to
stop that. That's not going to happen. We're not going
to let anything get in the way of that. So
I think that right there is probably a good thing.
Now with that being said, there is a circumstance where

(48:55):
I think the government will acknowledge Bigfoot, and that's when
somebody hits one with the car and it makes the
news and they can't cover it up anymore. That's that's
probably more the more realistic thing of what's gonna happen.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
I think that's a very good good point on your
your you made there as far as that, as well
as your your pipelines and stuff too that we were
talking about earlier, all the oil lines and stuff. You're
not gonna be able to run any of that through
the woods and them. And I think that, you know,
if if if somebody hit one of these things with
a car, I think it would be the same as

(49:31):
going back to Roswell, the news would say Bigfoot hit
by a car, and then the next day, oh, we
looked it was just the bear. Yeah, the picture of
a bear hit by a car and we misidentified the
head was at a weird angle. We couldn't tell.

Speaker 3 (49:46):
Now I'm saying like like something crazy, like like Bigfoot
was hit by a car. And then they did everything right,
like they sent like they cut pieces off and they
like they sent it away a different like they did
it right. That would be cool. Yeah, did you hear
about the Bigfoot body up in at the New York
State fair. They had a they had a quote unquote

(50:11):
Bigfoot in it. It's kind of like the Iceman that
that was just it just like last week.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
Yeah, I think I saw something about it. I didn't
look too close into it.

Speaker 3 (50:19):
But yeah, one of my one of my good friends,
Steve Coles, the Sasquatch detective, is going to go up
there and investigate it live, which is going to be amazing.
Or I think he did. I have to check it out.
I haven't seen it yet.

Speaker 4 (50:30):
Interesting. Yeah, well, I know quite a bit about the
Minnesota ice Man. We've had Terry Cullen on the show,
who was the person that brought it to the attention
of modern science and stuff. Yet he wasn't the one
that founded it, but he, yeah, did a lot of
the research and and and saw it, you know, and
and that really good episode. If anybody's interested to go

(50:51):
back and check that out. It's one of our older episodes.
But all right, let's just go back here. Let's see
try this one. In your research. Do your thoughts that
Bigfoot has a type of camouflage like a glimmer man
or cryptid or do you believe Bigfoot uses portals?

Speaker 3 (51:14):
It's kind of touched on this a tab that earlier.
I think Bigfoot's more biological. Uh. I think portal things
a cool theory. For me, it's almost impossible to explain.
It's just morally wrong for me to explain an unknown
with another unknown. So it's just it's just fundamentally hard

(51:34):
for me to do that. So that's why I think
I'm more biological. I think they have an awesome camouflage.
I mean, I think a lot of people say Bigfoot's
there one second and gone the next second. Right, I
think they just lay down, you know, like like that
could be a thing. A lot of people say they glide.
That's because their only job is to literally walk in

(51:55):
the woods, you know. That's and they're they're very very
good at it. Like you see Native American you know,
walk in the woods. They glide just like we don't,
you know, we as people were very awkward in the woods.
So and and the fastness and stuff like that. Yeah,
and it just makes you know, I think, uh, like
I said, unless unless I could see Bigfoot zapping up

(52:18):
into a portal, I'm stuck on the biological section of.

Speaker 4 (52:22):
It, all right. Grandier again would like to know what
is your take on gifting to Bigfoot. It seems like
maybe half a Sasquatch community has split on this do
you gift and what results have you experienced?

Speaker 3 (52:37):
So I, yeah, that's a that's a great question. I
don't know why. So like I get it. I used
to I used to have a research area and I
had the capabilities that I used to leave little trinkets
and stuff in this It was actually a tree that
I found in this one area that was I mean,
you couldn't tell me that it wasn't interwoven. It was

(52:57):
crazy right next to what I found in upside down tree.
So you know, it's just a very good area. So
and what would be cool about it is I would
come back every month or so and the structure would change.
So it's like, hmm, let me it's active, So let
me try to figure out what I can do to
see if it's super active. So my lot, my theory

(53:19):
was I was going to start leaving small little cat toys,
right and maybe put some cat nip bottom just as
a little attention getter. I don't know why not, and
you know, get Bigfoot a little you know, present. But
and then my theory would Bigfoot would take and put
them back, take and put them back or whatever, and
they would gradually I would gradually get larger and larger

(53:41):
little animals the point where I would be able to
get a GPS tracker and surgically insert it into little
Teddy Bear and that way sew them back up. Hopefully,
in theory, Bigfoot's not going to notice this or feel
this or whatever and take it to wherever it goes.
And I'm not saying that I'm gonna live track it

(54:02):
and go check it out at real time, which would
be really cool. I think that would be a really
cool thing to do. But I could just find where
it goes, and it goes back, go back there at
a different time, and you know, get all the physical
evidence that I could possibly need to prove the existence
of Bigfoot.

Speaker 4 (54:18):
Interesting. We did a similar thing. We talked about doing
research up in Upper Michigan at the Heightened Adventure, and
we hung a jar of peanut butter up in a
tree and we came back about a month later. The
jar is gone. It's a big jar, right, There's no
evidence of it on the ground. It is nowhere to

(54:41):
be found. To this day, still haven't found it. So
either something picked it up carried it miles away or
something couldn't find it. So we hung another one there,
same thing. The jar is completely gone. So the first
one we had one trail camera on it. The second
time we put two, a video and a still picture.
Neither one of these pictures or neither one of these

(55:02):
trail cameras got anything. One picture it's there, one picture
it's gone. So to your point, I went out and
I got little like air tags that have records in them,
and I electrical taped the crap out of this thing
to the peanut butter jar. The third peanut butter jar
was completely empty, and you can sit and watch squirrels

(55:25):
come and eat. The entire jar car was still there. Yeah,
because I put a tracker on it.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Yeah, and I figured that's the exact same thing that
would happen. I figure, so they're too smart for that.
But it's cool philosophy.

Speaker 4 (55:40):
Yeah, I like.

Speaker 3 (55:41):
I like your way you're thinking.

Speaker 4 (55:43):
To be fair, I can't tell you that bigfoot came
and took the first two jars. But like I said,
one picture it's there, the next it's completely gone, and
there is no pictures of squirrels eating out of it.
Raccoons any animals eating out of those jars. One it's there,
next that's completely gone. Fine.

Speaker 3 (56:03):
One one of my favorite research techniques is along that line,
is you get a bunch of old They're actually called CDs.
Some people may remember them. They're little shiny things that
have like mirrors on the back, Britney spears, that kind
of music. I would take some of that style, and

(56:24):
what I would do is I would put them and
hang them by fishing wire from a tree. I'd put
thirty CDs in this tree, and I would put on
one side of the CD. I would put double sided
tape on the non shiny side, and then on the ground,
I would make sure to put fresh top soil or
just clean off the top soils so there's no leaf

(56:45):
litter around or anything like that. Maybe wet it down
a little bit or something like that. So when theory
Bigfoot's going to come in because it's attracted to the
shiny thing that's shining around his woods, come in, check
it out. Step on the ground, leave a footprint, leave
a thumbprint on the shiny side, leave a hair on
the other side. With the double sided tape, and boom,
three piece of evidence and Bigfoot in one gathering.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
Did it work? No, Now, I will on a note
on that. One of the things that we tried was
different bait stations and stuff kind of similar to that,
and we uh cleaned up the ground underneath them and
found a ground bee's nest. So he quickly abandoned that practice.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
Yeah, that's not a good thing to find.

Speaker 4 (57:35):
Yeah, it's really good. This this goes back to your
videos of your getting maced and stuff. This video would
probably be our viral videos from the ground bees. What's
a Yeah, that was our experience with trying that experiment.
So yeah, awesome, we have Uh, well, I think we

(57:56):
have two more questions, but we'll get through these here.
If you have any more last minut questions, get him
in before we wrap up the show. Grandeiser says, can
you give us an example of the sasquatch sound you make?
Do you have any of the audio or anything on
your website or YouTube channel?

Speaker 3 (58:11):
Yes, it's all on the YouTube channel. You just got
to watch watch one episode of my YouTube show and
you can see how much of a fool I make
myself every Monday night at seven o'clock.

Speaker 4 (58:21):
Awesome, very good. Do you have any audio like actual
bigfoot audio and stuff.

Speaker 3 (58:26):
Do you have any evidence that I do? Again, on
the YouTube channel, I think it's called Best Bigfoot Vocalization
or something like that. You can you can listen to
it and what it was. What's cool about it is
I actually sent the audio away to a linguist from
the military, and because I I don't know what I'm
listening for, I'm not I'm not a sound guy, you know.

(58:48):
So he listened to it, and he does bigfoot research
on the side, So he listened to it and he said,
because of X, Y, and Z, this is outside of
human vocal range and it's no known animal from northwestern
New Jersey. And that's really cool. Five of us heard it.
Five voice recorded it, and it's all on the YouTube
channel to check out.

Speaker 4 (59:07):
Scott Nelson.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
Ye different guy that was gonna say, I'm I'm actually
not allowed to say this gentleman's name.

Speaker 4 (59:15):
That's fair.

Speaker 3 (59:16):
Yeah, yeah, very good.

Speaker 4 (59:18):
All right, And your last question that I have, well,
I'll see last question from here, which you think is
the best documented bigfoot encounter William Rowan counter in nineteen
fifty five, Patterson Gimlin nineteen sixty seven, eight Canyon incident
in nineteen twenty four, Albert Austman abduction nineteen twenty four,
or other.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
I gotta go with the you know, the B Patterson Gimlin.
It's the og. You know we talked about a little
bit before the show. But it's it's just it's the
it's just the the original. It's not that it's well,
I mean, it is well documented because it has I
mean today you can really go back and analyze it
and stuff like that. It's it. It was, I mean

(01:00:02):
without the and I look at it like this, Without
the PG film, Bigfoot would not be anywhere what it
is today. And I would not be what I'm doing today.
Without without even finding Bigfoot, I wouldn't be where I
am today. That's a show that got me into Bigfoot,
so I can't knock it. Did I make a show

(01:00:22):
because I wanted to make one a little bit different
and well other than that, yes, I did. But I'm
not gonna I'm never gonna say bad things about Finding
Bigfoot because it's you know, it's it's what I what what?
Where I where I started this journey?

Speaker 4 (01:00:37):
Absolutely very good. That's a whole other topic. I was
going to start there, but we'll leave it at that.
I was gonna say, if it wasn't for for the
PG film, what do you think is the next footage
that came out or would have come out?

Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
I you know, I well, I don't know. There's I
like then, know, it's so hard to to to determine that.
I like the new one. There's a new one that
came out. He was at a provo Utah, there's a
bigfoot throwing not the train one, but the one. There's
a bigfoot like side tossing a rock at somebody in

(01:01:14):
a parking lot. That was pretty cool. I thought that
was legit because the rock was like landed like right
next to the person, which is kind of you know
what happened to me on my first adventure. Uh, that's cool.
So oh there we go to Stacy Brown Junior or
a friend of mine or Senior, I'm sorry, Senior was
the one that captured the thermal imaging of the Bigfoot

(01:01:35):
traveling through Terreo. That was That's a that's pretty cool too.
I gotta say for thermal, that's got to be top
up there on the list.

Speaker 4 (01:01:45):
But see, I think going back to your point, I
don't think any of those would exist without the PG.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
Film right exactly exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
That's a whole show in itself there, but uh, I will.

Speaker 3 (01:01:57):
Leave to have me back.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
Absolutely. We talked about here you got a lot of
great events coming up here, still less of this year.
I'll throw this up here for anybody, but you talked
about some of the stuff. Remind everybody where you're going
to be this weekend and where they can find you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
Yeah, this weekend we're in Randolph, New Jersey, at the
Randolph Country Fair. Next up after that, at the end
of the month, we're in Norton, Virginia. I'm MC and
the Woodburger Festival. We're going to close out the year
with some libraries up in New Jersey, which is going
to be wonderful. I'm going to be at in Ogdensburg
at the sterling Hell event again in New Jersey. It's

(01:02:36):
just going to be It's going to be a great
end of the year and I'm excited to kick it
kick it out in style.

Speaker 4 (01:02:43):
Very good. And you are already planning your twenty twenty
six I.

Speaker 3 (01:02:48):
Did just announce so we are doing the the do
you Believe Tour right now. Mike Familans, Do you Believe?
Twenty twenty five tour next year. I just announced a
few weeks ago that I'm doing this whole thing all
over again. I'm just a glutton for punishment. I'm setting
myself up to do probably close to one hundred and

(01:03:09):
twenty nights tent camping. No, yeah, yeah, about one hundred
and twenty. I'm thinking give or take, obviously. But we
already got a couple already booked for next year, which
is very cool. Up there it is. There's our beginning
tour poster. We are starting the year off correctly as
everybody should. We are snow burning it down to Florida

(01:03:33):
and getting out of the cold for a couple of
weeks or for a week or two. We're gonna be
an oh p d Land Hastings. And then we got
another one. Oh yeah, there's a I don't know. We're
all over Florida. So if you want to come and
check that out. It's a whole new presentation this year
or next year. So if you've seen my presentation, you know,

(01:03:56):
fun fact for you. I present to the like twenty
five hundred people this year. So that's crazy, and we're
gonna do it all again. All all try to get
friends and families off the couch. I think that's so cool.

Speaker 4 (01:04:09):
That is awesome. So where can people reach out, Like,
let's say there's library or anybody listening events and stuff.
How can people get ahold of you to book you
to come to their events? And how do they get
ahold of you if they just want to talk to
you or share some stories.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Everything is on my website at Shadow of Redeye dot com.
You can email us through there or email Shadow of
Redeye at outlook dot com for booking information. We have
all of our socials going. If you want to get
in contact with me, just don't call me. You could
do anything else or text please, but you can email us,

(01:04:46):
send me a message on Facebook. I try to answer everything.
I can add me as a friend if you want.
I got a lot of friends and it's great. Follow
our journey over at our YouTube channel Sussex County Bigfoot
and the name of the show is in the Shadow
of Big Red Eye. There's over I think there's over
like three hundred and sixty episodes for you guys to

(01:05:08):
check out. That's like one a day for a year.
That's crazy. New episodes come out every Monday evening seven pm.
That means tonight seven pm, part two of the Everglades Expedition,
where we're down in the Everglades looking for not only
Bigfoot but the Skunk Gape. So check that out. Be
short to subscribe. It's gonna be a really great episode.

(01:05:29):
I'm excited to rewatch it, so I hope you guys
are as well.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
Awesome do you watch it live when it comes out?
Like commentary and stuff in the comment section and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:05:39):
I generally know because I'm never home, That's the short answer.
I love, love love YouTube scheduling because it helps me
so much. I think I actually might be around to
watch the premiere of the episode this evening, so depending
on I have another podcast this evening, so depending on
how long that goes for, I should be able to

(01:06:00):
pop in and chat in the comments as well.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
Very cool. I know we we've tried that a couple
of times, but like you said, when when you're on
the road and stuff on the weekends and when the
show's dre up, it's it's hard to be there live
to come awesome, man, Well, all your stuff, your YouTube channel,
your Facebook and website are all in the show notes
for anybody that's interested in that. You can head on
over and give it a like, give a share, give

(01:06:25):
it a subscribe, and make sure you head on out.
If you're anywhere in New Jersey or anything, or coming
up to Florida, head on over and see your shows.
You're all your events are are free too, Is is
that right?

Speaker 2 (01:06:35):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (01:06:36):
The ones that you don't have to pay for are free? Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:06:40):
Yeah, fair enough. Yes. I was gonna say, yeah, I
heard you'd said like all the libraries and stuff were free.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
But yeah, yeah, majority of the only ones and stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:49):
The only ones you'd have to pay for is if
you had to go into like a festival and have
a gate fee or something like that. But all my
libraries are free, no charge. Ever, I don't want to
do that. I think Bigfooting should be available to everybody,
and not just people that may be financially more well
off than other people.

Speaker 4 (01:07:03):
That's my thing, absolutely, absolutely big footing for everyone. Absolutely
All right, Matt, Well, I appreciate you hanging around here
and going a little bit long, especially with our delay
and stuff at the beginning. So it's so much man,
I want to invite everyone. Once we sign off here,
we're going to talk about the convention coming up and
some announcements. But Mike, thank you so much for coming on.

(01:07:24):
And when you get your start of your new tour
and stuff, you got to come back and share a
little bit about all your new presentation and keep us
all informed.

Speaker 3 (01:07:33):
I can't wait. That sounds amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
All right, man, I will talk to you later.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
Thank you so much, suir, take care of you guys.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
All right, guys, that is our show with Mike this week.
But for you guys in Wisconsin, we have promised you
that we are going to be announcing the first round
of our guest speakers and our lineup for the twenty
twenty six cap Con event in Fondolac, Wisconsin, May through
the tenth. So guys, if you're interested in that, that's

(01:08:03):
what we're going to talk about here. Our first announcement,
we had a lot of people interested in coming out
and seeing your television personalities and stuff, and we wanted
to hear some people from finding Bigfoot or finding Bigfoot
expedition Bigfoot, and my first announcement for the twenty twenty
six convention has been on finding our expedition Bigfoot, but

(01:08:24):
probably not one that you think of. So our first
announcement we have. Christopher Duncan will be joining us. He
was a guest on Expedition Bigfoot twice. He is, for
those of you who don't remember, the gentleman who came
out and did the military experiment with looking for certain
vibrational frequencies of animals out in the woods and being

(01:08:46):
able to track them to determine bears or Bigfoot or
monkeys or anything like that. He was also towards the
end of that season as well doing the remote viewing,
so he was the one that remote viewed the bridge
with the cage and the area that they couldn't go
that ended up at the end of that season. He

(01:09:07):
is a ex military as well as done a lot
of remote viewing for the military, so he will also
be part of our workshops series at this event. He
will be teaching you guys how to do remote viewing.
I've gotten a chance to take his classes when I
was out at Phenomenicon a couple of years ago. Really
good time. He is the guy that trained me in

(01:09:28):
remote viewing. So we're looking forward to having him here
to talk all about Bigfoot, remote viewing and that kind
of stuff. So he is our first announcement. It is
going to be awesome coming up. Guys. We had a
lot of requests for casting, so one of our other
workshops we have Dan Nedrello. He is a Wisconsin biologist,

(01:09:50):
field researcher and has traveled all over the United States
researching Bigfoot, conducting interviews and all kinds of stuff with Bigfoot.
He is joining us as a workshop as well to
teach you guys how to do proper casting of prints.
So this is going to open up the show at
ten am for you guys. You are going to actually

(01:10:13):
get make and takes, so you're going to be able
to make a big foot cast or a footprint cast
and take it with you. So real hands on stuff there.
Looking forward to that. And guys, we have a panel
announcement here for doing UFOs, UAPs disclosure for Wisconsin and

(01:10:35):
in general. So it's going to be hosted by the
one and only Jeff Finnupp and we have Ian Degraff,
Jeremy Soka, Zach Screedy, and Dustin Shuda is going to
be joining us on this panel, all of which are
specialists in their different fields of UFOs disclosure and UAPs.
A lot of them have been guests on my other

(01:10:57):
show the Paranormal Spectrum. We have a awesome group of
researchers and stuff there for our UFO panel. Jeff Finnup
is also going to be leading our brand new thing
this year. We are doing a special showcase dedicated to kids.

(01:11:17):
So we are going to be doing Kids and Bigfooting
with a series of shorter presentations, thirty minute presentations that
are directed towards kids and getting them involved. So Jeff
Finnup is going to be doing Wisconsin Urban Legends and
Lore for Kids, followed up by Kelly Milner Halls is

(01:11:38):
going to be doing a presentation on getting kids involved
in reading and all of her books that are specifically
directed towards kids and getting them interested in everything from cryptids, aliens,
bigfoot and the paranormal. Really awesome to have her on

(01:11:58):
board as well. And rounding out our kids section, we
have Lauren Smith, the host of Night Callers Bigfoot Radio,
is coming up to talk about getting little footers involved
in bigfooting, how to get them interested, how to be
safe when you're out there researching, and of course guys,

(01:12:18):
we couldn't have a kids section without doing a kid's
Bigfoot hike in the afternoon on the Friday prior. It's
going to be a one hour event that you get
to come out with Lauren and Kelly and they are
going to take us out into the woods for a
brief time and kind of give kids a in person

(01:12:38):
how to bigfoot experience. For the younger people, it's going
to be an awesome event there. And we are also
doing a night bigfoot hike on Friday, but we are
not announcing our guests for that just yet. You'll have
to wait and see and then guys. At six pm
on Saturday, we have a seance provided by the one

(01:13:01):
and only Christina Bloom. It is going to be an
awesome time. She is going to be doing some channeling
as well as her seance as well. And we also
have a psychic Gallery reading that we will be announcing
as well. So two hers will be at six o'clock
and the Psychic Gallery reading will be at seven with
another guest coming up. So a lot of stuff still

(01:13:24):
coming up in the future, but we want to give
you a really cool taste of some of the people
and stuff that we got coming up. Tickets are not
available just yet for this event. The workshops will be
a separate price, but a lot of them have make
and take things, so you will get your money's worth
out of that in information and some things that you
can take with you for that. And we have the

(01:13:45):
Bigfoot hikes on Friday and a ton of vendors and stuff,
so it's going to be a huge three day event.
A lot more information coming on that as well. Head
on over to Wisconsin Caps and click on the can
link on either the homepage or in the search bar
up there, and head on over to Cryptid's Anomalies and

(01:14:06):
Paranormal Convention on Facebook if you want to stay updated
on all the information there. But that's it, guys. We
are super excited to have all this stuff and more
announcements to come with more guests as including our special
guests for the night Bigfoot Hike. We have some really
cool bigfooters coming out as well, but awesome stuff coming.

(01:14:28):
I hope you guys can all come out and enjoy
this event with us. Head on over and you know,
stay tuned for more until next time. Guys, Thanks for watching,
thanks for tuning in, and remember to like, subscribe, and
share all things here on the Untold Radio Network as
well as all things from Mike on our show here
at the Big Red Eye. Until next time, guys, I'll

(01:14:51):
see you on the edge.

Speaker 3 (01:16:02):
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