Monsters on the Edge #124 Bigfoot Recon with Guest Robert Lemle

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Joining us on this week's show:
Robert Lemle is a retired truck driver, a father of 5 kids and a grandpa (papaw) to 4 grandsons. He is an outdoorsman who likes to camp, fish, and hunt. Robert got into the cryptid scene after he had a strange vocalization experience in the woods in 1989. Since then he has had three sightings and many other encounters. He has a YouTube channel where he shares some of his outings for others to see.

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Speaker 4 (02:55):
Good morning, Monsters, and welcome to this week's episode of
Monsters on the Here on the Untold Radio Network. I
am your host, Barnby Jones from Cryptid's Anomalies and the
Paranormal Society here in Wisconsin. We got a great event
coming up this weekend. We are going to be at
Silcon in Gays, Illinois. It is a paranormal horror, anime, gaming, cosplay,

(03:20):
and Cryptid convention. Is going to be two days for Friday,
September nineteenth and Saturday, September twentieth. I'm bringing out the
Heighten Adventure traveling exhibit, so if you're interested in Bigfoot
in Upper Michigan, we are going to have the display
down there the whole museum and I will be giving

(03:40):
the presentation about the Heidened Adventure on Saturday afternoon. I
believe it's at one or two pm. I'll have to
check on that, but I will be there and you
guys can come check that out. If you haven't got
a chance to see it then coming up guys in
two weeks, we are headed down to Van Meter, Iowa
for the Van Visitor Festival September twenty seventh. It is

(04:03):
going to be really cool. Kicking off for Friday the
twenty sixth with a VIP walking tour and Saturday is
the convention with speakers and vendors and more. Walking tours
giving the highlights of all the sighting locations of the
Van Meter visitor.

Speaker 5 (04:20):
Always a good time down there.

Speaker 4 (04:22):
This October, if you're looking for something spooky to do,
we are offering paranormal tours of Wisconsin's premiere Haunted Gentlemen's Club.
It is a building over one hundred years old with
several recorded deaths in the building. We have had every
bit of paranormal activity throughout the building, from full bodied apparitions,
people being touched, EVPs. All of our equipment has gone

(04:47):
off at one time or another in the building, so
it is a very active location. A lot of great
stuff also featured on the television series My Haunted Hometown,
So if you're interested in more information on that, to
do a public tour or a private investigation, head on
over to Haunted beansnappers dot com click on the Spooky

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side all right, and then coming up in October, I
will be at the Shanno County Library, the Brownsville Public Library,
and the Nina Public Library. All these events are going
to be free for the public and are exploring the paranormal.
We're going to teach you how to properly use paranormal

(05:28):
equipment why we use it and how to keep yourself
safe on investigations. After the presentations, we'll be doing live
paranormal investigations of the libraries, so stick around afterwards if
you want some spooky fun there as well. I know
for a fact that both the Brownsville and the Shanno
Public Library have told me that they have experienced paranormal

(05:52):
activity in the library, so we'll see if Nina lives
up to the other two. But October sixteenth, twenty second,
and twenty fifth, all the information is at wisconsincaps dot com,
forward slash public events or click on the public events
tab for all the information on those events. Just announce, guys,
I will be at the Contact Modalities Expo May first, second,

(06:15):
and third in Delavan with Wisconsin all kinds of great
people there, a lot of former guests on my show
as well, Jack Chavez and Jabachocin and some other really
great people are going to be there. So we'll talk
more about that later. And then of course we are
going to be at capcom in May eighth through the
tenth next year, and we'll leave it at that. So

(06:38):
that's what we got coming up here. But guys, we
have an amazing guest here and we are live.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
Kim, Welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (06:45):
So if you guys have any questions or comments throughout
the show, throw them in the comments section and we
will get to them as soon as possible. Would that
being said, let's get to our guest. Well, my guest

(07:11):
is using his phone to be on the show today,
And as soon as I said let's get to my guest,
he dropped out of the background there, so hopefully he
will be back with us. My guest is Robert Lemmel.
He is a retired truck driver, a father of five
kids and a grandpa to four grandsons. He is an
outdoorsman who likes to camp, fish, and hunt. Robert got

(07:32):
into the Crypti scene after he had a strange vocalization
experience in the woods in nineteen eighty nine. Since then,
he has had three sightings and many other encounters. He
has a YouTube channel where he shares some of his
outings for others to see. He still hasn't popped back
up here, so as soon as he comes back, there

(07:54):
we go.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
There we go.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
Robert's back on the show.

Speaker 3 (07:59):
Robert, I just get near it in.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
Well the audience, I said, as soon as we were
gonna announce you woo you dropped off, or like he'll
be back.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
So I can see people's comments and yeah, yeah, never mind,
hello everybody, sorry about that.

Speaker 4 (08:26):
Playing for real. Yeah, we are live, as you can tell.
So if you have questions for my guests here throughout
the show, feel free to throw them in the comments section.
Kim as well here says Hi, uh, we will get
to them as soon as possible, So don't worry. I
will read the comments out for you so that you
don't have.

Speaker 3 (08:43):
To look my hands back. I won't touch hands.

Speaker 5 (08:50):
Up, don't touch the phone. We'll be all right. Not
a problem, man, not a problem.

Speaker 4 (08:59):
But uh so, welcome to the showf thanks for thanks
for being here.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Thanks for inviting me.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
Absolutely so.

Speaker 4 (09:07):
I read your background while you were your your bio
while you were coming back here, So give us a
little bit of what happened in nineteen eighty nine. You
said you heard some vocalizations.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
I I used when I was younger. I do a
lot of deer honting. And you know here in Ohio
where I'm from, and in northern Michigan, and I had
a friend of mine who moved up there to Wexford County, Michigan.
And I'm sure most of people who are in crypto
have heard of Wexford County, Michigan. You know, basically the

(09:41):
home of the Michigan dog Man. Well, anyways, I was
at my buddies. It was a beautiful October day. I
mean it was it was sun was shining like seventy degrees.
It was like noon. So I decided I'm going to
come in and get a bite, you know, take a
break from my hunting. And so I ran into town

(10:06):
if you want to call it that, to the general store,
grab a sandwich, something drink, and I went for a
ride and I went way back up and into the
uh Manistee National Forest Area and I found the spot
where and you know, it's kind of hilly and stuff,
and I found the spot where high power lines come through,

(10:27):
you know how they clear it cut the forest. And
I thought, wow, this is what a great spot, you know,
the summer shining. So I pulled off there and you know,
drop tailgating on my truck and I'm just sitting there.
I got my sandwich in my drink and just just
just you know, enjoying the time out there and enjoying
my lunch and all of a sudden, I'm hearing At

(10:51):
first I thought it was elk bugling, and now there
is Elka Michigan, and there was Elk Michigan back then.
But back then that was you know, back in eighty nine,
so that was all the off was like towards Mile, Michigan,
one hundred and fifty miles by on the other side
of the state, like you're on national Force. I'm not

(11:14):
saying that they're not there, because there are you know, uh,
game farms. You know that people have there. But you know,
I heard it again. I thought that's not enough because
you know, my hunting experience, I've heard them and started
listening to it again. I'm like, what is that? You know?

(11:35):
And it started to creep me out, you know, I
didn't I didn't know, and well, I don't know what
that is and it's getting louder and I'm not put
to stick around to find out. I mean, I believe
in Bigfoot back then, because I mean, I it's moose people.
I I remember as a kid landing in front of

(11:55):
TV seeing the Patterson Gainlin film on TV when you know,
back in the sixties, you know, so yeah, that was
my first experience and ever since then it's like, I
want to, you know, find out what caused that, you
know what that was, and I yeah, it was weird.

Speaker 4 (12:18):
So well, hey, let me let's stick with this for
a little bit here. So when you said that you
never heard anything like this sounds like elk googling now
without I'm not asking you try and mimic it, but
what did it sound? Did it sound because you've you've
brought up the Michigan dog man area, So did it
sound like like a dog howl wolf thing? Or did

(12:40):
it sound like a bigfoot? As we we understand.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
Elk, I do it, but it was you know, I mean,
I know not all elk sound the same, but I
just it just wasn't the right place for time. It
wasn't a how like a wolf how or wherever for
a dog man how. It wasn't a wolf or how
from Bigfoot, which I've heard, but I mean it may

(13:03):
have been, you know, I mean they say Bigfoot can
mimic a lot of things, you know.

Speaker 2 (13:08):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (13:11):
But what really got my goat was about a month
or two ago. I was getting ready to go to
bed and I was watching YouTube, you know, I watch
all the things on YouTube and come across some thing.
I was watching it and the thing about uh, Windy
goes come up now, winding goes creep me out, I don't,

(13:33):
you know. And they're talking about, you know, like you know,
the noise, and the commentator I don't know who it
was at the time, but said that they can make
a sound like an elk. That that gave me goosebumps
because that brought back, you know, And I'm going to

(13:55):
kind of link the sin or something about wow, okay,
because you know that is also known. And I just
seen the show last night when I got back from
my investigation about Michigan, dog Mad, Bigfoot, windygoes, you know,
because that's you Northern Michigan. You know, the Jimaws are
in the up. It probably in your area where you're from,
you know. And I'm like, Wow, that's you know, and

(14:19):
it's it and they're always it's always the Man of Stee.
I don't know if you know much about the Manisteria,
but it seems like Michigan. All the weird things happened
in the Man of Stee. Yeah, that's what got the
ball rolling for me. And I'm beginning to wonder, now,
was it dog Man Vicker. I'm you know, I'm opening

(14:39):
my I'm leaning, you know, maybe it was a window go. Yeah,
it was creepy. Was this?

Speaker 5 (14:48):
What time of year was this? This was like, you're
sitting on your tail. It's warm out though.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
October first, when most season opens up in Michigan. So
it was like and so yeah, it was October first, beautiful, beautiful.
So as matter of fact, last year, there was a
I don't know if you know who Jason Kinsey is,
and I don't feel for him and the Sheepwalker. I'm

(15:16):
sure you've heard of them, and they had a thing
going on and in northern Michigan in the general area
I'm not gonna give exact location, but not far from
Reed City. If you heard of Reed City. That's like
dog Man Central for Michigan pretty much, but not far

(15:37):
from there. So I'm friends with all them, and I
went up there. And so while I was there and
I had a buddy of mine, I said, you want
to ride with me? I said. After that, you know,
I went said hi to all of them, and you know,
and everything, and talk to Jason, and he kind of
documented in my stories and stuff, and then we went

(15:58):
back to the place where I had my first sight
and we're kind of weird, but you know, we're talking
eighty nine, so that was what forty years ago, just
about you know, and something like that close to it,
and it's not more whatever, it's changed a lot. Like
they went in there and they logged it. But what

(16:22):
they did, because you know, I'm assuming you you know
how they got the pop up poplar trees everywhere, cut
those all down and just left them lay so you
really you couldn't there's no way navigation through that stuff.
It was neat to go back. And we're actually gonna
go back up in that area again here in October,

(16:49):
mid October. We're going back, same people with me. I
don't know if you heard of Chad Date, Gwenlin, Guthrie Cherry.
We have to. We're going back to St paceho were
last year. We're going to have a little kind of
like a free, little Bigfoot conference in a small town. Nothing,

(17:12):
nothing major, but you know, I'm going back. I gotta
I'm gonna find out what it was.

Speaker 4 (17:18):
You know, so you said that you were you're into
the Patterson Gimlin film and all that stuff. You know,
prior to your your vocalization encounter, were you, like, take
me back to then, was dog Man or anything even
on anyone's mind or when did that start playing a

(17:39):
factor in anybody's fuse?

Speaker 3 (17:44):
That was before you were a twinkling your mom, Dad's sides.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
I'm eighty seven, so at least I was alive.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
Okay, well this was back with TV. We're a piece
of furniture. I've always I mean I had an older
brother and my mom and I were always in the
monster movies. You know, did traditional drag the other Frankenstein

(18:14):
to wear canage or creature from Black Lagod, who I
think is probably the most likely to really exist. Is
the way they did his outfit. By the way, that's
just my my thing. And if you look at it
compared to all the other ones, and we got it
back then makeup was great. But yeah, I've always been
in the monsters and the ab normal and paranole. It's
just it's just a fascinating you know. But I'm also

(18:37):
you know, I'm a dude, so cars, you know, another
big thing. But yeah, when it comes to that, and
I've always been an outdoorsman. So but and then after
my experience that really brought things back, you know, I mean,
and that's what really got my curiosity. It's like I
got a you know, but yeah, Patterson Gamland. As soon

(18:59):
as I saw that, I was like, wow, you know,
maybe a vulnerable but I know I'm open minded because yeah,
I've just always been into the monsters and ghosted. If
it's weird, I'm into it.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
So But but do you know when I mean, Linda
Godfrey started the Beast of Rayroad dog Man stuff in
the early nineties in Wisconsin here, but when did do
you know any of the kind of like the history
of like the dog Man for Michigan there when people
started reporting that and seeing it was it before god
for your it.

Speaker 3 (19:35):
Was, No, it was about the same time because eighty
nine that was about the time if you remember in
the Cadillac area and they say, you know that that
DJ who wrote the song you know and stuff that
was kay, like that wasn't Traverse City, Okay, uh, that
was not the same time. But no, really, when it

(19:58):
comes to the dog Man thing, that's only been the
past couple of years since they since they gained popular.
Because I'm not gonna lie, I'm still up in here
on the dogment. I mean as much stuff as you're
seeing now, they're probably out there. And some people were saying, like, oh,
they're you know, there's something new. I don't think so.

(20:18):
I was it Nephilims or whatever from Egypt or wherever?
You know, the guys with the hyena heads or whatever
they were? What were they called? The Yeah, okay, so
I think I think they've always been around. But are
they dog men? Are they were wolves? You know? Are

(20:39):
they something that's been around for a thousand years? Are
they man made? I mean, who knows? What's that? Uh?
I can't think of anything. Name of an island out
there on the outside of New York, you know what
I'm talking about, Mom talking?

Speaker 5 (20:59):
So what Mon talk?

Speaker 3 (21:01):
No, it's where the the FDA has that plant and
now the Homeland Security took it over. It was a
bird island or whatever they call it, or somewhere all
the weird things supposedly they you.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
Know, I want to say, there's another one. I was
gonna say, mon talks out there that's a genetics lab
supposedly and that.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
But then again up there, uh, like where I go
north Michigan, there's a town called Reed City, and I
don't know if you guys ever seen expision and miekfoot
where they were out there by the airport. I know
exactly where they were at. I know that area well,
and uh, you know, according to what they dug up,
I don't know, because there is that small airport there

(21:47):
and it's weird because Reed city isn't it's just a
little borough, man, it's not. It's a one light town.
It's that, you know. And then they got this airport,
which I mean a lot of sometimes, but the uh,
the buildings, like you know, we're uh, you know, air

(22:07):
traffic controllers sitting that is huge. I mean it for
a small town. They were huge and supposedly made by
a guy who owned the manufacturing company up there or
something to wear a house and to fly his products out.
But that fell through and suppose I don't know the
story for so please don't vote me, but the government

(22:29):
took it over and supposedly they were you know, just
just theory from when I heard or speculation. I don't
know if it's true. Where they were like I don't
want to say storing, but you know, training and dog
men and stuff like that, you know, because well, you know,
the story of the truck driver up there were on

(22:50):
going through there where he shot the dog man from
his big truck, you know that story. And then the
government came in or the men in black whatever you
want to call him, come in. So it you killed
one of our assets or whatever. How are they an
asked why m hm.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
But yep, you are a lot of sighting reports of
them around military bases and power plants and uh cemeteries
and quarries, which I think is really weird. Now you
could look at that two different ways because obviously they're
secluded areas usually fenced off remote or is there something
else going on as to why they're there?

Speaker 5 (23:29):
But really interesting stuff there.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Yeah, I know I'm more at the big bigfoot thing.
But I said, you know, getting in that weird stuff.
Tell you, like last year, we want to talk about
that sound. Same as Windy Go. I go a area
I researched a lot just north to me. I'm not
going to give detail. I'll just say it's within the

(23:53):
Irish Hills area of southern Michigan. Okay, it's a little
hilly and he's Irish, real swampy. But last year me
and uh my partner or teammate whenever you want to call.
My friend Todd, who does bigfoot recoon with me. He

(24:13):
lives kind of lake. When we went on the back
side where they got the boat launch, and there has
been all kinds of weird things happening around the boat launch.
So we went there and I just, yeah, maybe it
was two years ago. I just got my I got
a Bushnell night vision monocular records this and all that,

(24:34):
you know. So we put in the parking lot and
Todd he's got my parabolic mike and he's you know,
checking out sounds, and I'm looking off into the woods
with my Thurgeon night vision, my bushnail and there's a
tree out there, probably about as big as a round
as me, and you know, so I don't know, just

(24:58):
and I kept seeing it's like something kept looking, you know,
like it was behind the tree and just kind of looking,
but I couldn't catch it. I could see it came
into my monocular, but it wasn't recording it. And I said,
you're a coming this and he's like, oh, okay, and

(25:20):
I I don't know it was enough. It was big.
It was it was ten foot tall, and I don't
know if it was a window go. It like it
was almost transparent, like almost spiritual. I don't know, but
all I know is it had horns coming out of
sad it had horns coming out of his shoulders and stuff.
And I'm looking Todd and I'm like, I wasn't scared.

(25:42):
I wasn't freaking out. I just looked at Todd and
I said, you know what, I'm not sticking around here.
You know, we're out of here. I didn't know what
I mean. This thing was huge. I mean, I've seen
a big bigfoot at my time, I seen a ninth footer.
This thing was bigger than that. And like I said,
with the horn, it was creepy. And I'm like, okay,

(26:03):
we're gone. We're out, definite, saying, you know, I think
that would whin you go. But you had the horns
like one. So if they, if they do have horns
that previous I've ever experienced.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
I don't blame you. That would be very creepy seeing
something weird like that.

Speaker 5 (26:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (26:22):
I've never seen anything like that in the woods, So.

Speaker 5 (26:26):
I don't want to.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
Orbs and stuff like that. Everybody talks about and they
relate to big foots well, there's a thing that's a
cryptic creature. I don't know if it will called willow
of the Wisp. I don't know if you ever heard
of those or not? With your blue orbs, and I can, like,
you know, like before we went on air, I used
common sense and logic and everybody wants to make them

(26:50):
spiritual and there was oh they were a bigfoot had
just glowing, or you know, well, if they're both cryptis,
they both live in a little and justhy can't they coexist?
And I'll say they're buddies. But you know what I'm
saying that sure, why not?

Speaker 4 (27:08):
I'm fully behind. I have seen basketball sized blue orbs
in the woods. My mom has seen a bunch of
orbs and stuff up at the Heiden Adventure in that
and all over. And I just don't like when people,
you know, like you said, associate, Well, I was out
there bigfooting and I saw these orbs, so they must
be connected, you know, like you said, there's there's so
many things out there, I mean, so many different cultures

(27:30):
and lore and legends and creatures and stuff that we
may not know about that you know, these things could
be related, but they could be very well. Two completely
separate things. Just because you're out there looking for one
doesn't mean something else, you know, like like take for example,
you know, if you're out there deer hunting and a
bigfoot walks out, do you associate bigfoot as being a deer?

Speaker 5 (27:50):
No, of course not.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
No, that's how I had two of my sightings.

Speaker 4 (27:53):
By the way, oh well that's we are live here,
so if anybody has any questions or comments throughout the show,
throw them in here. But uh yeah, Sharry stories please.

Speaker 3 (28:03):
The first one again northern Michigan, just Masauk County, just
next county over from Wexford. And it was about the
same time in eighty nine, and I think like a
year after I go home with my buddy and his
father in law. I had a one hundred and twenty
five acres up there, and I was talking to this
spot where they used to grow Christmas trees, you know,

(28:28):
it's like northern Michigan. Well he didn't want them, so
they cut all those up. But and then it's probably
the first twenty acres and back in the corner. The
best way I could put example was the clear cut.
There was an apple tree was in the far corner.
So if you look at the way. It was kind
of shape like the say of Pennsylvania and you know

(28:49):
how I had that little panhandle with Eurie Pa. Well,
there was a spot like that and right in the
middle of that was one loan apple tree. You're Wisconsin.
I I don't know if you hunt or not, but
you know, apple tree deer. Okay. I know where I'm hunting,
and I know where the time is. I'm right in between.

(29:09):
I'm you know, my brother, he said, he's going way
back in the hardward. I'm going where the food is.
You go between my brother and we were maybe one
hundred yards park. There was just a little clearing, a
little holler there, you know, and the pop trees. I'm
got my stands up as the tree and I'm hearing

(29:29):
the story. And I looked behind me and I see
the saint shaking this tree and at first I think
in black bear. At first I thought, my brother, what
are you doing nice? It was about five foot tall
and black, and I'm like, imagine that that's a bear.
I started laughing. The sun kind of perked out Becau

(29:50):
this early morning and hit that there is just you know,
just a beam like hit that area. I'm like oh,
wait a minute, because bears they have pau they don't
have hands and a bear to shake a tree like that.
And I said, it was just a little little popple
tree probably you know, maybe that being around, you know,
so a bear would have to push it to shake

(30:13):
it had a grip and night. Then I knew it
says that's a big foot, and I was still kind
of laughing, and I'm like, wow, you know. But then
again I was in an arrow knocked up and said
you stay there. But I had to be a juvenile,
was maybe five five and a half foot tall. And
then I heard the noise towards the apple tree. So
I went back, you know, looking at the apple tree.

(30:35):
And I looked back and it was gone. Then we
were walking on what are you doing to that tree?
I said me, I thought that was you Because no,
I was embarrassed. No, it wasn't a bear. He doesn't
believe in you know, this stuff, So we just stuffed
it at that. That was my first sighting up there.
That was, you know, my next one a couple of

(30:57):
years later, and those were in Ohio.

Speaker 4 (31:01):
But yeah, that, yep, it's interesting because you know, I've
had a a thermal encounter, and I saw these two
eyeshine and again they weren't like reflecting of light. When
you hit them with a flashlight, they got brighter, but
otherwise you could just see these eyes glowing off in

(31:23):
the woods. And I got it on thermal and U no, no,
the whole animal in thermal.

Speaker 3 (31:33):
Oh okay, yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:34):
And so we're watching this thing and it's it's not moving,
it's just kind of like turning its head like this,
like looking at us with like one eye at a time,
kind of just standing there, and we're like.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
What is that.

Speaker 4 (31:46):
It doesn't look like a deer. It doesn't, you know,
I don't know what the heck this thing is. And
same as you, you know, you hear this noise off
over here, and I'm like, I don't care what that is.
If it comes out at me, I'll figure it out
in a minute. But I'm not looking away from this thing.
And then it got closer and it got closer, and
I'm getting kind of freaked out, like, Okay, this thing

(32:08):
is coming towards me. I should probably look and see
what it is. And I turned and I turned the
thermal over there to look, didn't see anything, turned back
and whatever this thing was had moved off. Now we
were looking at down a shooting lane, so it actually
ended up crossing the second shooting lane. So we picked
it up again, but it was way farther back, like
it was trying to creep off or whatever whatever it was,

(32:31):
you know. But again, here's this thing that we're watching,
and the noise comes and it takes off as soon
as you look away. So I think it's I think
it's a you know, two of them, and the one
realizes that you're watching. It's it's kid, it's mate, whatever
it happens to be, and it's like, hey, look over here,

(32:52):
look over here, until you do, and then okay, get
the heck out of there, you know, but.

Speaker 3 (32:58):
You know it's press. But I think, I mean, I know,
you know they're probably single bigfoots, but I do think
they live in a community type setting, you know, maybe
like mom, dad, children or whatever kind of like you know,
a lot of agers like you do, you know, uh,
I see you grow up from maybe one could last

(33:20):
year when I saw that thing whatever it was in
the words I could pick up, I didn't have my thermal.
Then now you got my curiosity because I wow, that
on my thermal and on the infrared. Yeah, I'm yeah,
I think they have scouts, you know, like when they read.
I do think they're nocturnal. And see again my theory,

(33:43):
my speculation. So I think during the day there's scouts
you know that's watching over the Uh. I don't know
even like call them a pack or a family whatever,
you know, So who knows.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Like with only being five foot, you would think that
that one would have been a juvenile. So you got
like either Mama or daddy over here going, oh, you know, hey,
leave my kid alone. You know, he's making too much noise.
And as soon as you take your eyes off and
it's like, okay, you were naughty, you know, get the
heck out of there before he finds you.

Speaker 3 (34:17):
You know. My my theory, I think I've seen I've
seen three. I've seen that young one. It was black
that you know, it was black, like it was black.

Speaker 1 (34:31):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (34:32):
The second one I saw was huge, it was huge.
That was a southern Ohio in an area called Tarhllo.
That was that has ever been nine foot if not more.
And in Tarhllo they have well you're getting into the
foothills the appullations, you know, appellations there as a crow flies.

(34:54):
It was maybe one hundred and twenty five hundred and
thirty five yards from me. If you were to walk it,
it is probably over three hundred yards because you got
to walk down one hill, down the valley, walk up
the next ridge to where it walked. I was in
the ground blind deer hunt again, dear hun, and where
I was. I walked the valley in and then it
forked off and I set up right there so I can,

(35:18):
you know, see this way in the valley. I can
see that way in the valley. I could see right
in front of me. I had set up. I'm like, yeah,
this is this is it. I'm you know, I'm bringing
home some backstraps. And then all of a sudden, like
I said, you know, I was in that valley where
on this side you see where he was walking up.
He was huge. I'm like, wow, you know, I'm in

(35:40):
the ground bline Okay, I was he was wow. I
mean I could hear him, I could feel it, and
he was one hundred and fifty yards raight. It's just
he was this this big, huge red thing and he
was just like you know, I mean he was you know,
he was it. And that freaked me out. And I'm like,

(36:00):
I'm glad I got a one out slug here because
I know how you got to use the slug. You know,
I wasn't freaking out. I mean I was. I wasn't
super scared, but I was nervous. You stayed there, but
then he went over top and then he was gone.
But and I you know, I talked to enough friends
of mine and stuff over the years. I think out

(36:21):
of all of them, I think the red ones are
the aggressive ones. That's just from what I have gathered
with the information I have talking to other people in
their suidings. Every seems, you know, the aggressive ones seemed
to be the red ones, you know. So but then
I also heard like, you know, the grays or the

(36:41):
white can be but you know, again that's just my theory.
So of course, you know, you know, it was that
everything is during speculation. So but my third one, I
was a truck driver for years. I worked nights, and

(37:03):
where I worked I lived. I lived just outside of Toledo, Ohio.
This west of Toledo, and where I worked it was
in a little small town called Malpilli, which is about
fifty miles west of Lives. So I commute from here
to there, you know, back forth and uh a small
town out country and I was pull mill a terminal.

(37:23):
On the back of their yard is an old abandoned
railroad track and they credit for a footpath, you know,
and they call it the Wabash Trail. Well back in
the corner there's a patch of woods and I was
pulling out onto the road and I'm like halfway out
the road and i just looked down that trail and
right on the edge of woods, perfect silhouette. I mean,

(37:44):
you see the silo. What's you know, I will make
for about and I'm like, oh my god, you know,
and I stopped and I'm looking at it. But you know,
like everybody, you know, however, a good picture shock and
off factor. And then I was likely heard the sirens
and it was control, what are you doing? I'm like, look, look, look, look.

(38:08):
He looked and I'm not going to say what he said,
you know, with a few choice words, and he's like,
I'm like, okay, I'm out of here. And he's like, wow,
you know, that's putting nicely from what he said was wow.
But he couldn't either. And I had two black panther
signings too. I've had some weird experiences.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
Where were your black panther sightings?

Speaker 3 (38:35):
I well, see, in Ohio the way I go because
I basic came in from northwest when out to Columbus, Ohio,
which is basically center state, and because I was working
at that time, out of my pillar, I took two
lane rose, you know, and so the route I would
take it just cut through the middle of the state
heading towards her. There's a little town called Victory, a

(38:57):
little halfway down to Columbus and just a little route
thirty one in Ohio. And I just seen him run
across the front of me. And I knew what I
saw because the whole body is feline and its tail
was like a big long and almost as long as
the body, round like a big cat, like a broomstick,

(39:19):
you know, the rounded tip and everything. I mean, it
was like, you know, one leaked, one leak gone. It's
like wow. And about a year later, I don't think
it was the same one. I saw another thing, same scenario,
in the same general location, same thing loot gone. And
I'm like it was like you could say it tell

(39:39):
it had feline features. It had the feline head had
that long tailed, long sleek body. Again, it wasn't like
that close as I like, but you could tell what
it was. And so I was like that, I tell you,
that was that that made me put dash cams in
my cars and vehicles just for that reason. Yeah, you know,

(40:04):
it's just I don't know if I'm fortunate or unlucky,
but you know, by keep an open mind and being
a hunter, I'm always I'm always looking. It's just I
have it a trait. You know. Just you live in Wisconsin,
you probably do the same thing. At driving night. You're
gonna be looking for deer or have a bear or

(40:24):
what have you. I don't know what. You don't care
if you have any. But yeah, you know, it's just
that's being a truck driver for for a years before
I retired, that's just to have it, you know. So yeah,
it's a lot of your stuffy very interesting.

Speaker 5 (40:39):
That's that's awesome.

Speaker 4 (40:40):
I highly recommend the dash cam thing, although I have
seen some things on dash cam. I mean, not not
big for another, but like like let's say deer across
the road, and I've gone back and looked on the
dash cam and it's so small and fuzzy on there
that it's like, you know, because at night, your your
headlights only go so far, and your ir and the

(41:01):
infrared of your dash cam only goes so far. So
I mean you you really almost got to have a
daylight sighting of of anything for a dash cam to
help much anyway.

Speaker 3 (41:10):
But yeah, it's like a mirror. It goes over your
mirror and I call miking off. It's got the camera
is below it, and you can pivot it three you
can try to take your lot and the resolution on
it is is really good. I have another one that

(41:33):
actually can put a back camera, you know, like a
backup camera on it too, But the strange monitor goes
into the mirror. And then when I have it's just
maybe one by two monitor and it's in the right
corner so that doesn't impair your vision on the mirror.
Or the other one it's on the left side and
it's probably maybe two by two, you know, and that

(41:57):
just takes up to the mirror. But I'll use that
because time. That's kind of how I got so big foot.
I have all these dash cameras. I had the one
on the front, and then I got the big led
lights on my cheek and then I point to off
to the side, you know one night, you know, to
the east or to the left, to the right, and
this other one I got that says, you know, I

(42:17):
can look forward and it has an antastment. I can
look back and I'll do that. I'll just drive around
the back roads and back dirt roads real slow. You
know what's one of the main sightings roadside m Yeah,
you know that's you. I'll I'll try anything once.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
So never know, you can't find them sitting on your couch.
You got to get out there.

Speaker 3 (42:43):
So absolutely, I don't. I don't think or normal. I
think you're flesh and blood. That's you know, because I
have an experience, like you know, I don't people say
they walk the poles or they just disappear. I know,
like I said, ear shot and off factor when you
see one mm hmm. There's also things that I learned.

(43:07):
I don't know the scientific name. We called it matrix scene.
You see something you can't comprehend what you see, your
mind's gonna fill into blanks. I think that people say, oh,
they do this, you know, and then they want to
get nasty about I'm not doubting you. I haven't experienced
that I think when people say they just be I

(43:27):
don't think they do. I'm gonna like I says, but
I think they drop down on all fours spider crawl.
If you're heard of doing that, I think, you know,
like any animal women's they're going to use their habitat
to their advantage. I think they drop down on all
four spider crawl. You use the groundcover for you know,
to hide it. But you know, I just my theory.

Speaker 4 (43:53):
I think that's why a lot of people have a
problem with tracking footprints and stuff too. Like they say,
there's a footprint and that just disappears. But people don't
necessarily look for knuckle prints, you know, So if things
are down on all fours, which we hear a lot
of stories of them growling around like that, like you said,
if they go on their knuckles or up on the
edge of their toes or even you know, you're not

(44:14):
looking for a big flat foot like everyone thinks you're
gonna find out in the woods. And I think that
that's why people are missing a lot of these you know,
the trackways and stuff.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Possibly let me throw this. I think, you know, if
they're as strong as you know, and we've seen the
beats where they throw you know, big old tree trunks.
They'll beat this big around and they'll throw them fifty
feet or more. You know, they have strength. Uh, I
think they climb my area. A lot of suiting were intreated.

(44:46):
And this is just a theory, you know. I think
I think they can leap. You know, if they have
all the strength to run and do all this stuff
and run vertical and up cliffs, why can't they leap,
like be somewhere and said they're going to leave over
to throw you off. Something they've learned, you know from
you know, because I'm sure they've seen man over one

(45:06):
hundred thousand yearn and they know we're the most dangerous
thing in the woods. They know, and I use just
as an example of like Gettysburg. Okay, how many lives
were lost in Gettysberg, thousands and thousands. We saw that.
I'm the thing. This is just my theory. I think

(45:28):
they saw that and any person, and they know we're destructive,
were killers. We kill each other. And they know that.
Over the years, they learned and taught their offsprings to
avoid the white man. I think they did trade it
some time with the Native Americans or I'm sorry, I'm
not politically correct. So whatever, you know, the Indigenous people

(45:53):
or you know, First Nate, whatever you want to call them,
that career, I think they probably did. But then we
came along and do it. Oh, these people are destructive again.
That's just my thoughts, my theory. You know, I don't
know if they're true or not. It's just like you said,
common sense logic makes sense to me.

Speaker 4 (46:16):
That's definitely a good point. I mean, I haven't heard
anyone make that argument before about watching our destructive ways.
But we know that, you know, from stories and stuff
passed down from the First Nation Indigenous people like you
said that when the white man came, they were saying,
you know, well they were trading with those people, the
natives and that, and the natives said, you know, we

(46:38):
don't want you to befall the same way we have,
so you need to you know, take off and go
live otherwise they're gonna you know, attack you as well.
And so exactly what you said. You know, they're watching
what we've done to everyone else and you know, around
the world even, and they don't want nothing to do
with it.

Speaker 3 (46:57):
So yeah, you know, never said, well, you know, they're
different here and there. I think they're all the saying
that the skunkcake, ohiografts man, big pot, the sasquatch, like
all animals, all creatures, you know. I don't know if you
want people get defensive to that. You you adapt to

(47:20):
your habitat, you adapt to your surroundings. That's what I
think they do. That's where I think they may be
larger in other areas. But you're the same way. You know,
you go south, you're small. Yeah, in our area, de
you're a big you know. It depends, you know, they
have that what they have to eat, the minerals in
the ground itself. I think that all plays a factor.

(47:44):
And why you know, they they very you know, and
maybe in their attitudes too. I'm not a scientist. I'm
just a truck driver going out in the woods looking
for answers, you know. But like I said, I just
you know, I don't think they just disappear like people say.

(48:05):
I think like a deer. You've probably when you know
deer in the field, you see them, they're pretty brown.
You know, you get in the woods with the right light,
they're kind of gray. You know, I wants you got
to do, just turn, turn, back and they're gone. They're
not gone. They may have walked three or four steps,
but they blend into their surroundings. I think bigfoot do

(48:27):
the same thing. Maybe they dropped the ground, go behind
a tree. So you know how many times your pupils
they saying steer, like I say at you right light,
even stuff, They're going to blend in with the environment.
You can't you know, deaths, But I think they're masters.

Speaker 5 (48:42):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (48:43):
We've we've done some experiments with my team and that
I've been out in the woods and taken a picture
and I'll post it on our Instagram and I ask
people how many deer are in this photo? And you
can kind of see like two of them are like
right in the middle, and people are like, oh, there's
three or four, there's seven in that picture, and h
it's just amazing to look at and go, oh, they're

(49:05):
you know, like you just don't see them until they move.
And then they'll walk out and move and it's like
they're right there.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
There's there's seven of these things.

Speaker 4 (49:14):
We just kept counting them and you know, the picture
shows maybe like two of them, but when you start
you know, pointing them out, there's they're all there really
clear as the day that you're right out in the open,
but they're hard to see.

Speaker 3 (49:28):
Well, that's like, you know, and I just I get controversial.
People get mad at me because I'm kind of straightforward.
I mean, I'm not gonna get belligerent on people nothing.
But I have this big issues with the with the
red circle. You know what, I'm okay, and I'm the
experience because so many people I call it the placebo effect.

(49:52):
People say, oh, take a picture, you see it, you
see it, put a circle around? Oh you see it now?
Oh I see it? Well, of course you do, cause
they just planting that placebo in you you know. You
know what I'm saying, they planted that. I've done it.
And like I'll you know, at dusk, I'll take a
picture of a cedar sappling or a pine sapling tree,

(50:17):
just take a picture of it, you know, in the dark,
so it's kind of dark, and you know.

Speaker 6 (50:21):
And I'm like, you see it, Oh my god, where'd
you see that?

Speaker 3 (50:25):
Apped? All of that big foot? But it's not a
big idiot. It's I won't say idiot, but I'm saying it's.

Speaker 6 (50:32):
Not a big No, that's a big foot. I can
see it's haended shoulders. No, man, that's a pine tree.
I see it every day. This is my point that
you guys, you know, and guys who post this pictures, oh,
they hate me for that.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Don't do it. If you're not sure, don't post it.
I mean, maybe I'm a jerk for being that way,
you know, I just just come on, man, that's why
tree structures. I I'm one for one, you know, I
got pictures of some teepees tree men's Okay, nature does

(51:09):
probably ninety treatment. But then there's a lot of times
I'll take pictures of big ones, little ones, because it
depends on the situation. Like the other day I took
a pictures on it was just a sapling, but I
did twice, and it was tucked underneath the log. It's
probably a twelve inch diameter, not a big one, but
that way, and that log is great. It's been there

(51:31):
so long that it's turned gray. You can see where
they took a chance. So I'll cut the end of
it off clear way. You know the path trail where
it was cut off. That's great. Or you would see
the rings, you know, you know, that's great. And here's
the sapling still green. Still had green leaves, but it's
tucked underneath that. Now I know that tree has been

(51:54):
laying there forever because you can tell. How did that
staffling get tucked underneath that tree? I mean, anybody could
probably just walk up up and done it, you know,
but why would they unless they were just kids playing around.
Another one I saw was you know most tree staffings
you see or like been at one end and then
straightened out right. Well, I come across this one. It

(52:17):
was a complete you and I was like, well, that's weird,
and you know, I'm launching. I can think as well,
you know, maybe part of it got bent from ice
and then it got bent again from ice. C But
the weird thing was is this is off a trail
not far from here, uh, the DNR or park mats

(52:39):
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Right by the trail they had you know an orange flag,
you know, the little marker flag a little like probably
wearing a flag on it, you know I'm talking about. Well,
then there was another one right underneath that entry, the
one of them shaped like a U and gran. This
was in a state. In each preservation, you're not allowed

(53:01):
off the trail because where I live is a unique area.
But and just beyond it was another orange flag, all
on a straight low. I'm like, well, that's fascinating. I mean,
I'm not trying to, you know, make any conspiracy. I
just thought that was kind of weird, fascinating. But I
got pictures of a tree bend that was a big tree,
probably all that big around and it's twenty feet long

(53:24):
and you can see where it's been. But then they
took two other trees chriss crossed it at the other
end to keep that bend in it. Now, no, man,
I don't care if there's the aren't strong enough to
bend that tree down like that hold down? And then yeah, man,

(53:44):
this was a couple of people and then put those
other two the bracet down like that. I can send you,
I can text your pictures, show you those pictures like that,
like the TV structure, Yeah, the TV structure. And I
didn't go off truck. I mean these are logs. These
are logs that where you can't see I mean they
were dude, they were treaties, man, and they were twenty

(54:05):
thirty foot long and they were set up at teep truck.
No man is gonna pick something up that big. And
you can tell they were all stacked keeping structure, and
it's like and then a few a few weeks later
it's gone, and like I got pictures of that too,
So lucky I did get pictures of that. Like that

(54:26):
just doesn't disappear. So either maybe at park maintenance or
whatever took them out because of it or something. Because
I said, I live in a weird area of the place,
little metropark for Oak Openings, and then they're called the
Oak Opens Region, which runs basically northwest of Hio all
the way up to Detroit Metro Airport off of ninety four.

(54:48):
If you're ever flown in or out of there, this
is a big area. It's a lot of woods, it's swampy,
you know, and there's like one hundred and sixty five
native plant species just the Oak Opening. So it's a
real tendary, not real. They don't like you going off
the path because one hundred sixty find me out andrews,

(55:10):
two native salam anders species only native to Oak Openings region,
and a snake. So that's why it's a tread lightly area.
But then again I hear a lot of I mean,
we have prickly pear cactus grow wild here because Okay,
it's a big giant floating sandy from Lake Erie and

(55:31):
all that stuff over the years, you know, But we
have the you know, the prickly pairs, the little round
software shape on they grow wild wild here. I mean,
I know they grow wide on the places, but you know,
you think of that, you think of desert Southwest, you know.
So it's it's it's an unique area, a lot of
weird history here, so it's just never a dunt went.

Speaker 5 (55:56):
Awesome.

Speaker 4 (55:56):
Well, we are coming up here on the end of
the show. I want to invite everyone. We are lives,
So if you have any last minute questions or comments
that you'd like to get in the show, through them
in the comments section and we'll get them in here
before we wrap up. Lee's just kind of saying that
the redheads are very aggressive, and I think these comments
are specially redheaded humans. Thanks Lee, you know she's calling

(56:17):
me out. Yeah, uh Lee, I'll.

Speaker 5 (56:22):
Get you back anyway. But uh yeah, So you have.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
Ginger.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
Ginger she has made separately as one of my regulars
here at the backstage and stuff here, and she's made
very very regular ginger comments to me.

Speaker 5 (56:41):
So yes, I'm sure those.

Speaker 4 (56:43):
Were That's where that was directed. But yeah, so you uh,
you have a YouTube channel.

Speaker 3 (56:50):
Tell everybody.

Speaker 4 (56:51):
We have it in the show notes for everybody interested.
You can go check it out. But what can people
get there? And what's it all about?

Speaker 3 (56:57):
My YouTube chances called Bigfoot Recon on YouTube. We're not
like others. We don't take a scientific approach. You're not
gonna hear us we're screening new woods being all scientific.
You know, we're not philosophical. We don't. It's just two
guys walking in the woods having a good time. We're

(57:18):
not loud, we're not seeing. We don't take a scientific approach.
You know everybody's doing that. We're just we're just two
guys in the woods having a good time. You know.
We we are looking, we find something we have We've
found footprints stuff, We post all that. But yeah, that's
all we are. We just take a cellar approach to
it because everybody wants to be you know, on a

(57:39):
you know, sound intellectual and philosophical educated. No, man, we're
just a couple of redneck old truck drivers just having fun,
you know. I mean, because I mean thinking about folks.
I mean, all your sidings are what people walking on
trail hiking, talking like we're talking big for some or

(58:00):
they're camping, you know, and uh, I take my ransom
with me a lot because you know, they you know,
they put it fascinating by women and kids camping, you know.
Which if we said we were at Tall Fork and
we had all kinds of noises, spindings, but that's approach
we or do we do a lot at night, or
we'll just drive around back in the middle of the woods,

(58:21):
because they said, we try to take the approach of
being common, you know, common people's sidings, gym, roadside siding,
you know, just walking, carrying on, having a good time
on the trail, camping, just be just We try not
to think about bigfooting when we go out, so I mean,
you know, if you look, you know you're not going

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to see it, expect it when you least suspect it.
So that's the kind of approach we try to take.
And you know our thing is is my vide is
I don't edit HI because I haven't worked how to
do that yet, but I will. We do it for
people who can't get out, you know, you know, the
physical handicap age whatever they or you know, maybe they

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live in big city and they never been out of country.
So that's a fortunate thing. You know. We take them
with us and say, okay, here's what we're gonna do.
And I don't hold the camera on me. I'm waving
the camera around, say hey, you know, I'm looking this way.
I'm waving the camera and if I see something, leave
a comment. I might miss something. You guys might see it.
You know. That's that's what I do. Yeah, and we

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just you know, I mean, we're not mountain monsters, you know.
But then again, we're not you know, expedition Bigfoot or
anything else neither. You know, we're not you know, we're
just like I said, two guys is you know. And
the way we look at things differently. You know, people say,
you know, they affiliate them with the UFOs. I don't

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do that, you know. I mean, you know, because I'll
make a quick thing over about we're out of time here.
You know, they say Bigfoot or in quiz it did
and when it comes to UFOs, I'm gonna put to
you this way, folks, and just think about just think
about what I'm saying. Okay, they're curious, they're inquisitive. Everybody
says that about the big quit. Let me pretty to

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you this day. We all know you get in the woods.
They know you're there. If you're at home, You're sitting
in your house ten o'clock at night and all of
a sudden it's instant daylight and all your windows. Aren't
you curious? Are you gonna not go outside and see
what that light is? We'll think about think Bigfoot would
do the same. I UFO comes over the bright light.
Don't you think that can go? What the hell is that?

Speaker 5 (01:00:38):
Sorry from you?

Speaker 3 (01:00:39):
See what I mean. That's how I think of things.
That's how I think they approach change it curious like us.
So you know that's what I'm saying. I don't think
it's beat me up, Scotty. I just think you know,
that's just me. I look at it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
I think that goes for flashlights in the woods too.
You know they're like, what is that bouncing orb of
light that's moving through the woods?

Speaker 3 (01:01:04):
Yeah, I think so it was like you said earlier,
I don't know going on shown talking about the willow
of the whist Oh they walk, that's supposed to be
a cryptic creature. So yeah, they exist together. I can
see that there are spirituals that go on you know,
uh they put in Southern House. So don't how we
got Serpentine Mount. I'm sure you heard of that. That's
just place donald on there. You know. We had the

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Adena Indians that they were you know, three under b C,
you know, and we got all those Indian burial mounds,
like I said, serventeen mounds. So yeah, I can see
orbs around those areas. I don't know if those are
burial mounds or or I don't know if they are.
You can't excavate them because they're all protected now, I
mean private lands. People do. But that's how I look.

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I just use common sense and logic. I don't want
to make it supernatural, super you know, paranormal or anything
like that. I just you know, that's how I am,
you know, But I am open minded. People say the
experience it they did. I haven't, so I can't say.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
It's a good way to look at it.

Speaker 3 (01:02:13):
Keeps it eating's brain draining, absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
All right, Well, Lee is the only one that wants
to chat today. So lisays I am her favorite Ginger
and that she is jealous and always wanted to be
a Ginger and that's why.

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
So awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:02:35):
I'm partial, not you what I mean. Yeah, I'm all
right with that. Good, no prole offense. I'm not getting closed.
I'm just saying that.

Speaker 5 (01:02:50):
Yeah, that's not a problem. Awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:02:53):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
Well, I appreciate you coming on sharing your stories and
all of your years experiences and stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:02:58):
I really appreciate man.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
Oh, I appreciate Barney. I had fun. This is good.
I hope we can stay in touch and maybe sooner
we can get together sometime and not really that far apart.
Will be up up in Lake County, Michigan for a
few days for a little event we're having up there,
so I can keep you all posted if anything happens.

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You know, if I experience anything, I know how to
get a hold of you.

Speaker 5 (01:03:27):
Absolutely. I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (01:03:29):
Oh, no problem.

Speaker 4 (01:03:31):
Will you take care, have a great day, and best
of luck on all your adventures.

Speaker 3 (01:03:35):
You too, my friend. Take care. Everybody have a great day.

Speaker 4 (01:03:43):
All right, guys, That is our show for this week.
I will see you guys if you're going to be
out in Illinois this weekend. We will be in Gayze, Illinois.
I will be live as well, hopefully this Thursday, before
we head out on the paranormal Spectrum. So until next time, guys,
thanks for watching. Remember to like, subscribe, and share all
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So until next time, guys, I'll see you on the edge.

Speaker 3 (01:05:01):
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