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Speaker 3 (03:02):
Good morning Monsters and welcome to this week's episode of
Monsters on the Edge here on the Untold Radio Network.
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if you want to mark your calendars even farther out,
I'm going to be at the Belleville Public Library in
October of twenty twenty six. So that's what we got
coming up. Hopefully you guys can come out and check
some of that out. But ladies and gentlemen, please give
a welcome to our guest today. Let me introduce him.

(05:29):
My guest today is Michael James. He is the brave
and resourceful team leader of the Forest of Monsters, where
he dedicates himself to hunting and documenting legendary creatures. Driven
by a deep interest in Cherokee and global folklore, he
is a fearlessly delves into the wilderness combining his passion
for survival, wildlife and tracking to go after monsters of

(05:52):
all kinds. When he's not tracking monsters, Michael shifts gears
into the high octane world of dirt racetrack driving.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
UH.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
He shares his adventures through captivating race of logs and dell.
His diverse interests also include classic culture, such as his
love for the dukes of Hazard, alongside his lifelong pursuits
of hunting and fishing. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Michael
James to the show.

Speaker 4 (06:18):
Welcome, Hi, I everyone. All right, So we're.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
Gonna do things a little different. We're having trouble hearing
for Michael here, so I'm going to type questions and
he's going to read them and answer. So there's gonna
be a slight delay there, so just in case you
here typing in the background, that's what we're doing.

Speaker 4 (06:37):
So there you go.

Speaker 3 (06:38):
Michael, tell us a little bit about yourself and how
you got interested in the world of bigfoot and cryptids
and all of that awesome stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Well, I'm gonna very Pignan when I was very like
An showed well he's fail on.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
When I was a nine years old, when I went
with Pepper and you know, we were going camping just
for hot talks.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
I remember we were at Star Mountain in Tennessee. It's Tennessee,
uh about. We were going down there. He was cooked.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
I go down Cray's bedroom and I heard something like
the weird cracking crush of green or something.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
And I said, brown, probably on the city yards away.
And it was like we were saying them. And I
looked at he was kind of moving. What he was it?
She stood up. I was froze. I couldn't even move.
I was just staring at it.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Sometimes when I larne hairyman and then my papa once
hollered for me.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
I come in there and she's the second. Yeah, brown
just gone, it's gone.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
And the next day, Yeah, my cousin came to my
house and I told her I saw something weird monster
And she showed me a picture, you know, like a
movie monstering, like the olden dooring skinned kids like a
ballueon monstering, and I told her almost it was kind
of black brown.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
So she showed your old go go pictures? Is that this?
I said, yes, it was called bigfoot ses she was
And then.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
Three years later stars seeing more show of that Bigfoot
on TV show Mystery Monsters, Mounted Monsters, Alaska Monsters or
other show which made me more It treats in and
I watched all of them and made me more believing.
It's saying I'm gonna go out hiking, it's learning can't

(08:51):
be fish hunting and showed more into my life.

Speaker 4 (08:55):
And then.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
I found more so after I graduation, when I turned eighteen. Yeah,
I started my own channel on four and some monsters
because it's how I want to do my show.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
And then it's just a while, right first season this
morning we found first.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Tracks at bat and it's about nine Poke coont and
then Seas is two twenty twenty two, most great year
hang out with calling her playing all other We found
a lot of the things. I found a lot of tracks. Yeah,

(09:37):
I found a bunch of stuff on their tracks.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
How did you hear? You hear?

Speaker 2 (09:43):
A lot of Chaldnce stuff, A couple of pizza by Animal,
Black Bears, and then.

Speaker 4 (09:50):
SE's three season four, what's okay?

Speaker 2 (09:52):
But Sea's five most really good, it's not finish yet
by anim decid.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
I'll talk about it. When I got pictured in of
a video.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah, so before you had your first encounter, had you
you didn't have any interest in bigfoot?

Speaker 4 (10:18):
Well before any count out, you have interests to bigfoot.
I just never heard of it.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
I want to just heard about movies, games, frantish up.
I never have fall under ipay. She's a silver camera,
shelver camera. I shot, got him followed for the first
time when I turned diptated, hiss to your sold for fourantine.

Speaker 4 (10:42):
That's how it is.

Speaker 3 (10:45):
Yeah, So if you didn't like have the knowledge of Bigfoot,
what did you think that you had seen?

Speaker 2 (10:54):
Well, I would like to remember it's like a large
to mean bush, a ban. It was like being solder hairing. Uh,
trying to remember it was.

Speaker 4 (11:06):
It was almost like a grayish brown red between that
and it was standing in between that trees by the books.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Uh, I could say thorny or sixty feet from me,
something like that, and it was stood up.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
I remember. It's kind of crazy.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
So I sounded like a hub hub I mean like,
like's looking at me. You did doing nothing. I thought
I was coming at me. She's looking at me, and
my Papama was hollering me, got me to stretch. I
turned around, I'll be there, and she said, I thought,
Papa was behind me. Yeah, I turned around, She's gone.

(11:53):
I feeling like maybe maybe I feel like she had
not turned around and just keeps staring at it. But
I remember I staring at him was like.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Eight or the.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
Teach sake between that. He was gone, but he was
a large human but barely seeing a base.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Let it be long haired.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:20):
Have you looked to see if anyone else has had
any sighting reports in that area? Or have you gone
back to the area to scene? Have you found anything
else there?

Speaker 4 (12:30):
Yes? I have.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
I went back report area. When I look on Facebook
Facebook page spitting on me see him from challenge of beliriage,
the one he posts of whoever been reported to them?
What they see on map a pen I code that
tru strategy could if educated, But I try to ask

(12:54):
him about if exigated, if he's seen it to me
the never same information so he's doing When I see
someone report that area, I'll go look for you. But
I went if educated back twenty twenty three, earner me Craig.
We went to Erea and where he's been, thunder Burnt area,

(13:18):
thunder burn saw.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
We not know some people's house. We want one of them?

Speaker 2 (13:25):
Can't you have two old people. They said they don't
know about it, but they told me somebody has seen
or heard about it. And they moved away happy. Like
fifteen ten years ago about thunder Burnt.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
It was flying, so I.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
Went looking for thunder Bird for too much. They're not
there anymore. Maybe there's someplace else. And I went reporting area.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
About the girl little ghost. It's Cheat Creek area.

Speaker 2 (13:57):
That's where I've been feeling me a couple of times.
In my view videos abound, oh rock, not a history
about Little Wonderful the winds treasure of human and I said,
three hundred sisties where it came. Everym there, no barns,

(14:18):
no BIFA picture, just a turkey and wild burned and
looking for a dog man.

Speaker 4 (14:25):
Nothing there, yeah, hm.

Speaker 3 (14:30):
Hmmm, I'm at a loss.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
So no.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
Dog man, So no dog man sightings?

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, I mean I've been looking for dog matters.

Speaker 4 (15:11):
You can't find him. But all I know he spent
here and we've seen.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
Large cane trash and people told me it just a dog.
I thought it was karyote. I mean, no, what kind
of character I thought it could be? Barbara can't my night,
but no, it has to be bigger like a shte
in my hand. I try and find dog man.

Speaker 4 (15:33):
So it's just a big too far now.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Like did they the tracks, It's like a.

Speaker 4 (15:43):
Let us shut. Let that shuts a little bit of
my own, like the cannon.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
And he has been more bigger, but all show got
lots of trash, big cage. He's on my show but
there yeah, uh even want me show it? Bab tries
kind of hate.

Speaker 4 (16:04):
I'm I think carry. I only want big one. Yeah,
all right?

Speaker 3 (16:10):
On my second, if you guys are listening to this,
head on over to our YouTube channel and you can
watch live and see the tracks and the cast.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Wow ound ch three area when I want to do
on that is coming from up here. I'm gonna bet
you camera for a second.

Speaker 2 (16:44):
Bye twenty twenty three ship or twenty one? Well you
apparently see Well, how do you want to could in?

Speaker 4 (16:56):
Because I just sleep in? He turns out big toad.
You can see long time and then she just turned
pretty biger Yeah pretty heavy?

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (17:09):
How big is it? How bit? Like? How long? Uh?
Hold on chef? You m h, it's it's pretty big?
Shall have a manager went with me? I can't remember

(17:34):
how big? Shall I'm gonna go manage wide ten inch wide, okay,
between eighteen nineteen inch long? Yeah? Tench? Why eighteen nineteen

(17:57):
inch long? M Yeah?

Speaker 2 (18:01):
And I try to go back a couple of times
looking for him, and all I found is botch of
tree branch, broken swetcher. That's why I said trail camera
uphill on the whins. Bigfoot got up hill and coming
from the cree. And the bird she's nothing, she's wild birds,
like I said before turkey wild bird picture. Uh so,

(18:29):
I think he Bigfoot. But the first thing I got
to find is a cave. I haven't find a cave
up there somewhere. That's where I hid. Yeah, definitely, but

(18:50):
it's not just one caves. I still got more four
more bigfoot case. But she's under the shel I can't
kill it, puppy can.

Speaker 3 (19:01):
Have you tried Have you had any work with trail cameras?
Have you tried time laps instead of motion?

Speaker 4 (19:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (19:10):
I was standing and leaning on your comment about the
picture of big Yeah. I got some picture black birn
from my seat.

Speaker 4 (19:21):
It's just one. It's spoke a black barn was like
eat a fish up this hurrd, just looking at camera.

Speaker 2 (19:29):
And then second picture was kayote Kyte picture racing. Uh
one of them small bobcat, turky wahaunt and.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
I think it's just pretty much.

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Oh and I got some picture of people and walking
torture through camera. Funny people looking at camera made funny
fis from how you hearing you?

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah, I can talk faster than I can type. And

(20:26):
if you try the time lapse pictures, you can capture
more because the motion sensor only captures what's right in
front of the camera, but time lapse will take pictures
every few minutes and still capture everything that's out there.
And we've had we've had good luck with the time lapse.

(20:49):
We've gotten too on camera using it that way.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Yeah, yeah, I age rightfully tar camera. But well I'll
kind of I'll kind of try a camera not that
the US. Yeah, three hundred sixty trail camera. I'm gonna
show you.

Speaker 4 (21:06):
And if any of you are moistre hunters, why don't.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
I'm not believe I'm the first person use three hundred
sixty trail camera big foot hunt. And now I'm gonna
share that it's to all big for a hunter. And
you about this three hundred sixty trail camera. I got
this from basketball shop. It's one hundred and thirty dollars
for that.

Speaker 4 (21:31):
It's called reload for three hundred sixteen and it takes
picture hunter two or three cent spending real fast. Like
just use a camera stand, a camera flage stand. It
type all the way around.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
But uh, if you're putting on the tree, were applicate
a picture from behind a big behind.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
They can't hide from this.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
So I have two of those. It's really good, but
it's one problem. It's just one problem because I do
it's just a regular picture. But I can't change seventy
it's about time or change the video. Yeah steak, yeah
you can instead of like against a tree. Yeah, and

(22:26):
I can't change the saity like make your video or
nine months because you have to change seting with your phone,
pay some scripts and like one hundred dollars, I need
to change your stuff. So I just put the calling in,
turned it on, which is the regular picture all the
way around.

Speaker 4 (22:46):
And it wasn't perfect. Yeah, but you all try that.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
So like a panorama picture not just one direction.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
Uh, it's just type picture like five pictures and one
in a time like one, two, three, four five.

Speaker 4 (23:11):
It's like an m tank on that you should type
pitch all the way around. Yeah. Uh, so it's.

Speaker 3 (23:20):
Still triggered.

Speaker 4 (23:25):
By emotion, both both modeship both everything. Yeah, very cool.
Trigger speed, Sheryl Dog one, Shaking, Eddie foot Range, thirty shix,

(23:50):
make a paste. Yeah uh.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
If you have the subscription, it does audio and video
as well.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, look at the auto video, change your time, change
your color, change your sadity, like a different picture at
most uniquely picture video online somebody ever seen.

Speaker 4 (24:24):
It's just many things.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
And so I'm I'm not gonna do some stream sage
sometimes and if I get something.

Speaker 3 (24:33):
Like that, that's really cool.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, I wish you needed Monster hunter. Try
this out.

Speaker 2 (24:44):
In my possible your erea. I could pa for a picture.
Well the way I'm gonna say the way I do
when I say a track camer Some some monstre hunters
don't give out there, but only bring meat, food, apple.
Just hang them up the streeld. They come to the

(25:05):
woods reaching. You never know mu's gonna happen in might unexpect.
Just learn them in the woods, come to that food
from pitching.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Have you you tried gifting then, like tried different foods?
Have you tried oranges?

Speaker 4 (25:27):
Like the creature can.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
Uh both for video hidey camera and somehow some people
told me they can't they tint from that truck camera
or smelling it. But I gotta use something spray or
something very good hiding. Yeah, or maybe well I have

(25:54):
something with my chart camera, a sohoular charger. If I
had solar charged with this, I can't leave at cherry
camera in the woods for one month or three months,
I do, okay, a bunch of pictures.

Speaker 4 (26:11):
Yeah, I'm octacting that one time.

Speaker 3 (26:14):
We've had a lot of guests say that the trail
cameras along rivers and they they block the smell and
the sound of those a little bit because there's so
much going on there.

Speaker 2 (26:27):
Make the moner knowing is they won't even know it
destrass their mind. Oh, I'm sorry that I'm making I'll
do that next month. Yeah, I mean next mind Christmass
because my birthdays on d s for twenty five on
Christmas Day, Yeah, I'll be turning twenty three.

Speaker 4 (26:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (26:56):
Be a good place to try in the middle of
the river with the three six on a stake and
then you can see all the way around anything that
comes down to drink or eat.

Speaker 4 (27:06):
Yeah. So I say, yeah, uh mo. Many tell people
how I met with Turtle Man.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Yeah, well if I back twenty twenty one, I met
turtle Man for first time picking for Ounch. He's someone
always go pick up on gander Brush, Smoky mountains and
he told me he likes my style. Came flush pants,

(27:36):
had long hair and beard, and I show him I
work about Vollnch and Marsha Marshall. I think I made
him a couple of times and which is becoming French
and then now which just become best French twenty three.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
From Turtle Man, my Tomain from Dug down there see.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Jimmy from I Love Power Normal Uh each year we
all dan on the we all got together, smoked him
out to be for bishop On and we did a
commercial video commercial and that's how I met old French

(28:26):
and partner people from Georgia do something hazards like generaline,
chasea dune, something like that and it was a great time,
showed me Turtle Man.

Speaker 4 (28:38):
We did a bunch of video together.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Food content, but told me almost went up, but Spartan bitch,
Spartan him won I could do it. I thought I
should do it, but I can't just too small when
I drink eating too many Chile State two bars. I
could do it because I'm out and some day me Taroman,

(29:07):
we'll get through a video on Big be Hunt together.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
We have worked with Turtleman as well. We got to
go down and investigate with him. Back in twenty twenty one,
we met him. He's a really nice guy.

Speaker 4 (29:24):
Yeah, YouTube fed him. Let's say, yeah, we go ahead.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
Yeah, I can have a video with him on my
YouTube and Ted Talk. Well, I remember twenty twenty two
my tik talk hit like twelve fellowship Allowerns and I
just can't polish you. More new videos by morshre Hut
some Clinch for an other show. We keep up promote

(29:52):
show out and bright Now I'm at ady s stylearship
followers on Ted Talk and yeah one of my friend
Connor flan big but and no he has like a
munch one.

Speaker 4 (30:08):
Hundred and fifty that was your father.

Speaker 2 (30:10):
Well that's good for him, so she can't guard to
be on me hot malls shirts spreading news like that.

Speaker 3 (30:20):
We got to go out with him big footing, and
he taught us a lot about tracking and what to
look for and stuff like that. He's he's very smart.
TV portrays him as this crazy guy a lot of
the time, but he really does know what he's doing.
He's a really smart guy.

Speaker 4 (30:38):
Yeah hear, I'm one him great bitch trying. Yeah, I
remember he showed me try. Wow.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
He's going like yeah, and they're like they're like twenty
four inches. I think they're really big.

Speaker 4 (30:55):
He's wow. That coach on my right.

Speaker 3 (31:00):
Yeah, the cast he's got, Yeah, that's big.

Speaker 2 (31:06):
I remember told me about his show what he was
letting on the corner beyond and on TV show and
one he shaw.

Speaker 3 (31:17):
Me and my mom got pictures with his casts and
him and yeah, and what he.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Saw big Fire.

Speaker 2 (31:24):
How am I bad fire? I'll show you what my
baby guy and that told me about Bigfoot went. Whoa,
he changed Ryan and that's what happens.

Speaker 4 (31:36):
I remember.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
He has seen them a few times times.

Speaker 1 (31:48):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
The first one was when he was really young. He
was on uh Find Bigfoot.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
I've seen I've seen Bigfoot probably probably three times. I think.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
I remember I see him move toable on TV show.
I think I see Bigfoot probably three times. First one
when I was eight or nine years show when I
saw fifteen or ten seconds the checking one. The one
I saw, uh between seasons two or three. It was

(32:25):
between shedwing. It darned ninety bach skating, but I'm glowing.
I link any old video I wanted to recording when
I go up here. It was shadowing between the trees.
It's a huish movie, but I hardly hearing it. Kind
of rainy snowing. It was shdowing at the third one

(32:48):
seeing him on my video on my seaties five. Uh, okay,
I'm kind of talking about my seaties five. The one
I got the old video about me Broke Marrion from
Burke Marin from Florida, the shows Dark Florida Poetaste, and

(33:09):
they joined me from my big foot camp out and
did one for them all, just two of them. It
was too much rainy storm and so we went uphill
on power Line. I want to say, name is thunder Rock.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
Uh. We went power Line.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
She played speaker music on her back pack, like abuse
to speaker, like that animal call or musee something like that,
and she heard a bunch of patches of kylies on
the leg side.

Speaker 4 (33:43):
Shot shot video over quarantine and then.

Speaker 2 (33:48):
Holly on the right side and John Terry round and
I look at my phone, and I thought, oh I
got something, say him at the whole thing, and I
show I show her on my phone and then I
love my phone. I can't just gone, and I polished
on I need to and it's I love. It was

(34:12):
like a have heads shoulder behind the bush.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
It was like a movie.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
It's peaking out and it's just turned out like bigfoot
shape and it's all that's why I'm going back this
sad to set a shark camera.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Yeah, because.

Speaker 2 (34:34):
Cheeker butts got all over my leg hurt. So now
it's good winter, all leaves gone. Creature can't hang from me.
I could find them easy, and I could go deep
in the woods more farther.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
I feels try long, ranching out the feeling.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
Have you tried longer audio recorders in the field like
you talked about trail cameras. Have you tried audio.

Speaker 4 (35:06):
Under quarantine?

Speaker 3 (35:07):
Yes, yep.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
I don't have chundricorn do I? Nick came one the
bit clear thing, kant I have one, my name one. Uh,
I want them one three years ago, but it guys scam.

Speaker 4 (35:27):
He never came.

Speaker 1 (35:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
Wish one should write one.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
Yeah, uh, I have track camera A couple of different
track cameras, phone cameras, Winment Live flash line, white Bench
Hunt Team, meant to tack in all of that show.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
That's all I have.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
So you have a you have a hearing impairment. Has
that made your other senses more adapt Are you more
aware of things because of like not being able to
hear so much.

Speaker 4 (36:06):
About my hearing?

Speaker 2 (36:08):
Yeah, well she's whenever any time when I'm feeling high
or happier, an armor something like that, it goes different
bollums down hearing them when I'm feeling Uh, sometimes I
could barely barely hear, but if it's closed, I could
hear real good, kracky branch.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
It's sometimes it's just gash air or sweaty or cold
air made feeling. It's just really weird about my hearing
A strong cute something like that. Yeah, it's like, uh,
I been hearing probably when they seem allowed or like

(36:57):
a normal alone.

Speaker 3 (37:02):
Does that, like the lack of hearing make you more
observant to your surroundings, like when you're out in the woods.

Speaker 4 (37:10):
Yeah, something like that. Yeah, like when I got a lot, Yes,
I hear clad she's figure. I feel I feel burning
on right now. It's hot here when I go, it's
not an armor clad. If I feel so cold cold,
ear a little bit more loud, it shocks about my

(37:36):
mush on my blank feeling it you can hear more.

Speaker 3 (37:47):
The cold air makes the vibration of sound louder.

Speaker 4 (37:54):
Yeah about me, I'm my feeling my hearing.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
Yeah, that's h uh. In So in the winter the
sound travels farther because of the cold the vibration of
the air. So that makes sense.

Speaker 4 (38:23):
Yeah, I'll like do that. And I can hike a
lot cold outside sometimes and I can hide a lot
how outside we're cool because she's hard outside. Because I'll
like spiders, snakes, beige, spider wins and well when I

(38:44):
call mars your hand?

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (38:47):
How people courage mine?

Speaker 2 (38:49):
Why I keep talking and I feel me keep talking,
like talk to talk to talk to feel me feel me.
I just like to keep talking in that which is
helped me keep thinking spook away or helped me calm
down for being alone in the woods.

Speaker 4 (39:06):
She's talking.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
Something like if I be quiant the creature or wild animals,
they could hear me walking, they could be sneaky on me.
So when I keep talking some animal creature they don't
like me sound talking.

Speaker 4 (39:24):
Don't just stay while I mean going on.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
You go out in the woods alone.

Speaker 4 (39:29):
I can't.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
I go out alone a lot. Want my parents or
my costients or my friends that dropped me off. They
stay on their trail parking lot. When I go hide
cap feeling by myself. But I don't thrive yet.

Speaker 4 (39:42):
But I went soon. She's home for trade relations. But uh,
I just go alone.

Speaker 2 (39:49):
She's probably like a couple of miles walking. And I
went camping sometimes with franch two or three times. Ah,
but I go hide you a lot more hiking farther
from my seats two.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
When my friends we see, we claim taste.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
Uh, we found a lot of this stuff. Ka wonderphones
up here on too much Rockey area.

Speaker 4 (40:28):
But there's there's more.

Speaker 2 (40:31):
Thing I wanted to learn is deep deep creepy points
like too much more senior something almost like blame which
something like that. Yeah, but uh, I've been signing it
to explearn and then the place is out of tennis.

Speaker 4 (40:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Yeah, I'm kind of telling them about silitu sity. It's
what's happening in twenty twenty sh I've been signing for
twenty twenty six. It could be later when I could
have had my seats is shit, probably summer or spring,
that's when I was starting, and possibly I'll be feeling

(41:19):
me with my cousin go ex blurring the first time.
It's champion across across the Ocean, another world championing. I'll
be filming history stuff. It's blurring area hiking. I've been
starting another new new channel. It could be different. Uh,

(41:44):
I think I think you or if I'm one, I
heard of it. It's called Lord Explurns, Lauren Explurts and
the other channel that exploring with charge like you exploring
a band places creepy house Hound.

Speaker 4 (42:02):
That's why I'm stud they do that. It's blurring. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
If if not, I'm i gonna explirt every shown Heritagious Disherland.

Speaker 3 (42:14):
Yeah, you said that you were really into always. You
said that you were really into like the folklore and
stuff of the area. What's your favorite one that you've researched.

Speaker 4 (42:32):
You really need to.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Lock a folk Yeah, ah, I know I'm most folklore,
but one of my favorite research is thellar.

Speaker 4 (42:46):
Was fish going to have spearing feature about his spearing figure? Well,
I don't know my mile to mols. You're making more
video spearing figure. It sounds like a misleady on.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
But anyway, when ill looking for him spearing peaker, he
stopped me to go look for him.

Speaker 4 (43:07):
He stopped to my teams from Ceci's one it got
deaf and sick, broke in the car and Shanon that
got hurt.

Speaker 2 (43:19):
It feels like she gives a spell to stop us
to go look for her, and maybe she knew we
were only looking for her. And I feel like cold
chills hound.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
But one of my favorite resurns is uh, I don't
remember I say, I don't think him allowed me maintaining
a bob like you say is Tennessee Dayton area hiking.
Uh have kind of wonderfae I like to learn. It's

(43:55):
just one of my favorite research found a lot of
tracks money canes.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
Yeah, Uh.

Speaker 4 (44:05):
Yeah, I think.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
So.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
You investigate a lot of the paranormal as well as
the cryptids.

Speaker 2 (44:13):
It educates paranormal only two times. I have to use
coach read during them. But the thing make the red
kreen yellow.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
I'm not being hind coach a lot. Just two times,
but that was my first time and I had all
bigfoot and creatures at the doll command. Yeah, but I
want to have all different creatures.

Speaker 4 (44:42):
Obum tenation, lutnation, monisture, all deck, moth Man church at Depon,
went Deco, skin walker, aliens, but my favorite creatures from
one of them with Dico. I'm gonna looking for you.

Speaker 3 (45:01):
Yeah, you've mentioned caves a few times. What do you
think about bigfoot living in them? Have you heard any
reports from your area of them living in caves?

Speaker 2 (45:13):
Oh, there's caves, if tunnels. It's not an old coal
mine came tunnel. It's not lone deep. A bunch of
people keep going and hiking. But there's another cave there somewhere,
another tunnel across the river somewhere.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Me and my friend Mike, we could go there. It's
too much raw, too much green plant. But we see
bush of ground homes. But I need to find another tunnel.
It's down there somewhere, I don't know where.

Speaker 4 (45:47):
I'm not all bad. Next time, maybe this twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Uh, it's hard to fuy cave, see any hiking area because.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
That's where banners are. Cream.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
You could be hiding a bunch of bones if I
if I found bunch of bonish or sculling.

Speaker 4 (46:09):
If I see some scones.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
I might be taking scold because I call it bone
scolds when you're on the shelf. And yeah, what if
I found on paper torn burn or mean, if a
bunch of balance in the cave, it's just how fresh.

(46:34):
I'm not gonna leave one shrimp camera if that came
hide the something a bunch of dirt on it and
no smell.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
Maybe my one.

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Yeah, shall build one of the wooden bit but hand
snaring trap like a wire and I gotta figure out
maybe something more stronger like whenever they grab wire, hold
the other arm you're keeping on running way wall. Nobody

(47:09):
adver cached Bigfoot. Maybe maybe one of them caught bigfoot
they let you out.

Speaker 4 (47:15):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (47:17):
I don't know why steal nobody. Do not have big
foot body or something like that.

Speaker 3 (47:24):
You haven't found any evidence in caves though, you haven't
found anything.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
Yeah, I found.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
Just coom one of them for the first time with
hos tonnel. If the second one I found a cave
like a overhanging cave.

Speaker 4 (47:44):
It was that.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
When won my seatsons it's on my seat two or three.
One of that video had video of the cave. Yeah,
there's one more cave. I mean number three came, I'll
find out is way up hill and you could climb.

(48:08):
There's big cave in the home. I can't climb to
go in, and it's just it's probably like nine type
eight up conquering wall, bunch of pointy eyed vandory cave.

Speaker 4 (48:24):
A feeling that I need to bring shumthing to go in,
and I don't know. Yeah. Uh.

Speaker 3 (48:34):
When we went out with Turtleman to do our research,
he talked about finding a lot of the stacked rocks
out in the woods and he thought that they had
something to do with Bigfoot, you know, kind of like
the stick structures. Have you found a lot of rock
stacking or stick structures.

Speaker 4 (48:52):
Like a raw aerial head or rotta stacked? Yeah, I'll
found to have that abound to have that.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
One of them went Dayton area, Dante are their waterer phone.
Uh I'm not sure Bigfoot did that or hiking area
people did that. But the second when I found is
just three stone stack. I think had no phone with me.

(49:22):
It was sweat outside, so I was just let you
had it star stack and there weren't wire and wire
and wire like a farm almost farm. Old old man
on finch about in the burnch and three Star stack.

Speaker 4 (49:46):
It was near Uh it's like two years ago.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Uh Pickling farm farm. Let all create riding in the
middle of it. That's where bounce, but I bounced raw
arrow hinge.

Speaker 3 (50:21):
The one that Turtleman showed us was large rocks, stacked
up a bunch of them in the woods. And uh
they were so big Me and Turtleman couldn't lift them
between the two of us. So it's not like hikers
or something. We're out there. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 4 (50:37):
Uh heavy roll yeah, my ha HAA happy rollo was
And that be m.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
If some wanted to if you're polling and I could
us to fall on the lay bright bones.

Speaker 4 (50:56):
Uh, I'll side that people doing that.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
Maybe maybe maybe they don't who you crease many stone, right,
I mean stonish that.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
It might be.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
Mark their tearings or their property middlem woods on the trail.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
They were in the middle of the woods, more off
the trail, not not right by there where people would
be hiking or something. And they were large, like two
feet round or two feet long, kind of oblong shaped,
so they're they're pretty big.

Speaker 4 (51:38):
Round and shape. It is there any scratch mart on it?
We didn't.

Speaker 3 (51:44):
We didn't look that close.

Speaker 4 (51:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:47):
If if they'd scratch mark on it, I would tell
us who know one that shound them? Waste edged? Yeah, uh,
if it's done, it's that in the mantle and maybe
the stage stresure around that area coasure.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
He also found one when we were out that looked
like it was thrown like hunting, and it had a
little bit of like blood or brown stuff on the
tip of it.

Speaker 4 (52:16):
It was really one on a tip top of a rock.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
The tip tip many many paper use smash the animal
for food, Yeah, hunting, many stars that it could be
paper kitchen.

Speaker 4 (52:35):
Yeah, yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (52:40):
Uh so.

Speaker 4 (52:47):
It's I found places hiking. There's a bush and then
a rock butcher that bach smash. When I went in Tennessee.
When I went, I went the first time and technicity sparked.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
One of my friend named Mike Gooblen called on the
trail a little bigfoot, uh the one. He gave me
a book and he showed me I had video from
seat two.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
He showed me a book. He showed me all big
b kg he bound.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
And this huge rock wall big came almost cameline over here.

Speaker 4 (53:35):
He's huge.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
He told me there's two or three block bigfoot lives thing.
He's seen it a couple of times, but I would
say he got a picture or not.

Speaker 4 (53:47):
But I don't know.

Speaker 2 (53:49):
But he just don't want to mention whether he just
leave me alone let it bif live there And that's
why he found a lot of treads.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
So I went there. I found bunching nut in the
whole rock wall like a watch match nun from the trees. Yeah,
I was, I remember so my stages too. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (54:21):
They we were talking about how they move like on
the hills or the cliff tops and they hunt from
up there where the animals move on the game trails
in the low levels and then they can throw rocks
and hunt down in the valleys or gullies there they
act as natural like choke points where animals have to
come through a certain area.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
Like raature can move animal downhill on like they can,
they'll be a stregger to eat them.

Speaker 4 (54:52):
Yeah. What about.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
What about animals a pond or river and how they
did like jumping on them or throw rage.

Speaker 4 (55:08):
Yeah, but how do I track black banners?

Speaker 2 (55:15):
If I was looking for a black banner black berry trail,
how do I track get black banners? Because I feel
like black banners related trail to Saint Bigfoot area.

Speaker 4 (55:28):
Yeah, like I want to follow the day church area
at that man acting more bigfoot could.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Be Bear's an bigfoot are very similar in uh, where
they live, how they live and stuff like that. So
anytime that you're tracking a bear, it's going to be
very similar to the bigfoot.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (56:00):
Yeah, it's either the same. I have the same uh
big by cage bears and what barn I mean what
big It could be saying a little barn or my

(56:21):
dog something like that. I remember I saw one on
a TV show one of my Mountain Masters came houndhound
like big houndhound something like that. And yeah, there's no
way that they get a lot of videos on that footage.

(56:41):
But watch other show real Footage, Find Your Bigfoot, And
they talked.

Speaker 4 (56:47):
About super Copera, schuper Copera. Uh, I don't know which
morning is super Copera. It's weird chip of.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
Copera a doult like with blue eyes, not a dog coyot.
You a lot of my chipper coppera and talking about
like am have bonus sharp sticky out and there's two
different type of super coppera or which or they're the
same or the same name.

Speaker 3 (57:22):
I think that the Texas blue dogs not chop of cabras.
They're two totally different species because the dogs dogs would
eat the animals, not just.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (57:43):
The one thing love to have blue eyes, but it's
almost probably simmer like a hussin.

Speaker 4 (57:50):
Yeah. Yeah, well the one I just came dress when
I talked to you on interview.

Speaker 2 (58:00):
He came to ast to me.

Speaker 4 (58:01):
But I'm trying to turn.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
The focus on camera. It's binding a cage. I got
a puppy husting. It's like nine, ten weeks old and
nine in one next month. I'm kidding, none of one
a boy.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
So I have two puppy hustings because there'll be moishre
hunting with me pictures monsure hunt. Yeah, I hearing hold
on alright, yeah, all I got you, uh huh uh yeah,

(58:43):
because your girl husting.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
Yeah, look at camera. Yeah, but's just think keypy. It's
hard to make focus on TV and lot working on show.

Speaker 4 (58:59):
Awesome.

Speaker 3 (59:01):
All right, Well we are almost here at the end
of the show, so I want to thank you for
coming on. And uh, if you have, tell everybody where
they can find your YouTube channel where they can find
out more about you and if you have any other
events coming on Yeah.

Speaker 2 (59:21):
Well as fon as, I thank you for having me here,
and uh you can find me on my new tube
channels on them with you know and I have five
sas bonus video interview.

Speaker 4 (59:38):
Uh i'ly pose playlist.

Speaker 2 (59:41):
You can find all its and when I poish on
yourtube when I when when they say it's post.

Speaker 4 (59:47):
You can find a video that I'm in I tag
alone on it.

Speaker 2 (59:52):
You can find me on a sank PARANDMA four some
Monster twenty seven and I pose sometimes behind scens picture news.
I would day uh in medi wr on Facebook. You
can find me on Facebook Michael James, but my prevowl
picture is much different, but I would change you sometime soon.

(01:00:15):
Uh my tiptoe you can find form some monsters and
I polished by shal random video clips other shows.

Speaker 4 (01:00:26):
My shows.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Sometimes I repeat again about people just watching while I'm
waiting for my new sass.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35):
Time me up. So I'm one of the guys.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Go check you out my seasies five Lankish new episodes
that I can't picture, I mean video on powerlines. Tell
me what do you think it could be? Bigfoot or
document or something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
And uh.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Sex how verma say it coming out?

Speaker 4 (01:01:02):
I men know tomorrow everishof She's just fine comeing out.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
De chamber a safe to say, come me out twenty
twenty says all the spraying her summer and remember stay brave,
stay wild, keep on believing, never kip up moisture shill
out there.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
Yeah awesome man.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
Well, thank you so much for coming on. We've been
trying to do this for about a year, so it's
it's finally good to have you on here and give
a chance to chat with Thanks for having me, take care,
Thank you so much. Every good night. All right, all right, guys,
that is our show for this week. All of the
links for the Forest of Monsters Michael James stuff is

(01:01:46):
in the show notes, the link to the YouTube, the
TikTok and Instagram are there for you to go check
out all of his research and all of his episodes
on seasons. So head on over and give him a like, subscribe, share,
check him out. Until next time, guys, thank you all
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