Monsters on the Edge #139 Backyard full of Bigfoot with Guest Flatrock

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my guest. After relocating it to Alabama in the wake
of Hurricane Michael in October of twenty eighteen, the man
known as flat Rock underwent a profound shift in perspective
when he witnessed his first bigfoot in August twenty nineteen.
Once a skeptic, he is now convinced that Sasquatches are
more than just mere legends, claiming they actively live on

(06:54):
his own property. This discovery launched him on a dedicated
mission to document their existence, utilizing a range of tools
from thermal imaging and eerie sound recordings to collection of
intriguing and often puzzling photographic and video evidence. If you
guys are just tuning in via after the fact to
the audio version, I suggest you head on over to

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YouTube and watch us on there to see all the
pictures and videos and stuff as we go through. So,
without any further ado, please welcome Flat Rock to the show. Hello, sir,
Welcome to the show. How are you doing this morning?

Speaker 5 (07:32):
Good?

Speaker 3 (07:32):
Doing good?

Speaker 7 (07:34):
Awesome, glad to hear so. I it seems like most
of the people in the audience have already heard of
you know, you friends of yours. We got Wendel and
stuff in there. But anybody that has not heard of you,
let's let's start off and just kind of tell us,
you know, a little bit of background of what what
got you into this and and how this all came about?

Speaker 5 (07:56):
Well what got me into bakery of my state thinking,
you know, we had people crossing to our yard, you know,
banging on our houses, and uh, you know, my brother
he talked about seeing a bigfoot back.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
In the woods.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
Uh that was even before I even moved out here.
But we you know, we didn't believe him. But eventually,
you know, had gone to where I've seen the first one,
and that's where my bigfoot stuff actually started. But we actually,
I actually started this whole adventure thinking people were coming
through her yard.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, told yeah, wow, what can I say? Yeah, it's
crazy now.

Speaker 7 (08:40):
You had you had said that your your mother had
lived on the property prior to this, and she was
getting like tapping and stuff on the house.

Speaker 5 (08:46):
Yeah, when she moved out here in twenty fifteen. Brother
moved out here in twenty sixteen. Uh, she had called
me up, you know and told, you know, somebody was
tapping on the window, and uh, she held the phone
up to the window. You can hear the tapping and

(09:09):
then the next thing, you know, you know, you hit
them three loud bangs. You know, I told my mom,
you know, peek out the blind, see who is probably
just the kid you know, and uh or a hunter
or whatever. Yeah, but she was too scared too. But
eventually she you know, it stopped and she grabbed her

(09:31):
dogs up, got her car and she took off back
Pama City.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
You know, she came back.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
Yeah, it scared her pretty bad. But uh, you know,
my brother eventually moved back, moved up here, and uh,
it continued you know, the banging continued. I come up
here one day, you know, to go hunting, and uh,
my brother Wou was gonna go hunting with me that morning.

(09:59):
So we went to sleep and I'm woking up by
you know, sounded like somebody banging on the door, and
I jump up. I'm thinking, I'm wait.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
All ready to go hunting. Yeah, I'm coming, I'm coming,
you know.

Speaker 5 (10:15):
So I get up, I go to the door, go
let my brother in, and uh, you can see it's
still pitch dark out there. But I'm looking out that
little triangle window on the door, and I don't see
nobody out there. So I eventually open it. Nobody's there.
But yet, you know, here the dogs are going crazy.
My mom come running out of the room, you know.

(10:38):
Down were the bangs that she was describing. You know,
when I was actually on the phone, and uh, I
asked my brother, you know that he'd bang on the
on the house that morning. It was a little after
three when it happened. You know, Glad looked up at
the clock. Soon after, Yo, I looked out the door.

(10:58):
But uh, that was crazy, man, I mean still, I
wouldn't believe it was no big butt, you know, I
didn't believe in no big but at that time I just.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Don't maybe you know, my brother.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
But then I got to work thinking, you know, it
was people doing it, you know where it hit on
your half and then didn't take off.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
You know.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
But we're back in the middle of the woods.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
You know.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
That was also what's all Yeah, soon after I moved
up here.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
Well I get to that a little bit, but that's
basically you know, the things that were going on at
the time before I moved up here.

Speaker 7 (11:38):
So set this is set the stage a little bit better.
So where are you actually, like situatd You're in the
middle of the woods, Like how how far away? Like
your nearest neighbors out there lake?

Speaker 5 (11:50):
Uh, well, there's there's five people out here on the property, Okay, me,
my brother, my mom, my mom. Uh now ex boyfriend
and my brother Jerry, who just moved up here, you
know here recently. Everybody's out here other than my oldest

(12:10):
brother that just moved here and seen these creatures out here. Okay,
our nearest neighbor, it ain't across the street because he's
just that's just a hunting camp across the street. But
I'd say about five hundred yards through the woods.

Speaker 7 (12:29):
Yeah, not that much, not that bad.

Speaker 5 (12:35):
But there's only very few people out here, just very
very few people out here.

Speaker 7 (12:41):
THEE Warner would let to know. How big is the
actual property that you're on.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
We're on twenty five acres surrounded by just hundreds of
thousands of acres of woodlands. Yeah, we're it's basically all
woods out here, all woods.

Speaker 7 (13:00):
And you guys don't have a house on the property.
You guys all have lake trailer homes right right, Okay, interesting,
all right, okay, so, uh, you guys kind of moved
all out there. You got your trailer houses and stuff,
and nobody really close. What does the surrounding area look like?

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Wood what.

Speaker 7 (13:25):
Any anybody's of water or anything nearby or anything like that?

Speaker 5 (13:28):
Yeah, okay, yeah, we got streams that run through the yard. There.
The creek right over here just uh, I guess a
couple of hundred yard through the woods, yeah, called Old
Town Creek that runs for good little ways and then
the creek runs into Sepoba River, which is just right
out right down the right through the woodlines as well.

(13:51):
So we're on we got the river to create and
streams running through our yard.

Speaker 7 (13:56):
Yeah, and you had said that on the BFR O
and stuff. There's actually quite a bit of sightings right
around your area, like one on either side of you.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Yeah. Uh on the Bigfoot Mapping project.

Speaker 6 (14:10):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
Here we just found this out here recently.

Speaker 5 (14:13):
Uh, there was a sighting a hunter encounter uh no
more than five hundred george through the woodsier you know,
uh just right outside the uh from my front door
to that sighting was five hundred george and you know
he was just sitting in the stand when it happened.
But yeahs about five hundred george out of my front
door here and uh, two sidings on the bf R

(14:37):
O site. There's actually more here in Connectu County. But
there was there's a bf R report right here at
Travis Bridge, which is if you go through the woods here,
it's no more than about half a mile through the
woods here, if that far.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
But they's been encounters on.

Speaker 5 (15:00):
Oat bridges of the Suppoga River, which my house sits
between boat bridges closer to the Travis Bridge.

Speaker 7 (15:08):
Wow, so that's quite the Uh so win are those
like do you know, like going back to when the
first sighting of that was.

Speaker 5 (15:17):
Oh ten years ago, was the one on eighty four.
The one here on Travis Bridge was I guess sick
here ago maybe ever before I moved out here.

Speaker 7 (15:32):
Yeah, that's interesting. It's it's it seems like, you know, know,
where wherever these things are sighted, they're there for a
long time, Like they don't migrate, they don't move around
and stuff. You you were for anybody that isn't you know?
We were just undug high check show as well. I

(15:52):
think like just a couple of weeks ago around Thanksgiving,
if I'm if I'm correct, So you can go listen
to more of that interview. I'm trying to kind of
pick through an give you an idea of what's going
on here without going into everything that he Ye, wasn't
it was it? Okay, I'm sorry. I think at the
beginning he says it's Thanksgiving, so I just kind of
went with that. I didn't look at the date of it.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
But okay, maybe take last year, yeah college, they wanted
to put some cameras out here, you know, but due
to privacy issue, I had to deny it.

Speaker 7 (16:24):
Perfectly understandable. Okay, so last last Thanksgiving. So anyway, but
if you want to listen to that episode, go check
out Doug's Untold radio show and there's a whole interview there.
But okay, so picking up kind of from there is
where I want to kind of go into this. So
I lost my train of thought of where I was
going with that. Already you have, oh the sightings. Okay,

(16:49):
so you mentioned that you were getting the most sightings
and interactions at a certain time of year. Do you
want to talk a little.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
Bit, Yeah, I just started. Let me just start with
the July, you know, of twenty nineteen. Uh, we still
didn't know what it would be, but we just thought
it was people coming to the yard, you know, it
crossing to the middle of the yard. It was on
July fourth or twenty nineteen, and mister Bob called me up,

(17:20):
said he'd just seen somewhere across the yard. There's actually
a video that's in one of the bolders that actually
shows exactly what he's seen, but he's seen it from
up front looking back this way. But anyway, he called
me up, they just seen somewhere across between his house
and my mom's and you know, and back in the woods.

(17:40):
You don't, you know, that's that's dangerous to do. But
we went after him with guns and you know, just
to get him run off. And we couldn't find him.

Speaker 8 (17:52):
So, uh, we went back up on the back porch
and we heard some rustling in the woods, so we
walked over there, told him we heard him, you know,
come on out, you know nothing whatever said, But eventually
told him, you know, going just going through the woods, yo,
get on out towards the road.

Speaker 5 (18:11):
Don't don't come back to this through this property. And
by the time I said that, Bob shot a bullet
up in the air well. That night, there was a
whole bunch of what I thought was people come out
of that woodline, started raising all kinds of hell behind

(18:32):
my mom's new home.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
You know, she ain't even moved into that yet. I
was still in the r V at the time, but
they was raising all kinds of hell, yelling, you know.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
Screaming, beating on her, you know, trees. I mean, you
could actually hear the slapping of the chest, you know.
But still, you know, you still think it was people
doing it, But yeah, it was.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
It was one hell of a night. Uh uh.

Speaker 5 (19:01):
But that's what YO, really got me focused. That's when
I started putting that recorder out. Yeah, if they came
back yo, and they're stealing my mom's stuff out there
on that back porch.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
Yeah, I catch them.

Speaker 5 (19:17):
Yeah, and uh that's when I got my first recording. Uh,
now we know what these wasn't people, these creatures to
come up on my back porch, yo, on my mom's
back porch. Yo.

Speaker 3 (19:34):
I've been recording ever since. Yo. I started putting out cameras.

Speaker 9 (19:39):
Yo.

Speaker 5 (19:39):
I'd catch them here and there, and then it just stopped.
And I wondered why, and so I started moving my camera. Yeah,
and I started catching them again.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
It stopped. Move my camera again, catch them for more,
it stopped, Yo.

Speaker 5 (19:56):
So I eventually got you know some every time I
moved my camera, I'm catching anything. Well, eventually it got
to wear. They were coming looking for my camera. That's
how I was catching them, because they kept coming looking
for my camera. So that's how I stored. That's how
I was catching these things. And uh so I've been
full board ever since, you know, every night or since

(20:21):
twenty nineteen, yo, ju go out twenty nineteen, I've been recording.
You won't wear or another. I mean, I don't found
no more. I don't got no more cameras out. I
just you know, built my own parabolic mic and just
record out in the woods every night.

Speaker 7 (20:36):
Now, that's really interesting. I saw the it's in one
of your videos that you you shared with me, that
it's just a parabolic mic out on a pole in
your yard. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
Yeah, Well, the way I used to do it, I
just to other than the recorder.

Speaker 5 (20:54):
I mean, it's just so much you had to go
through when you just leave a recorder out, you know,
and you just ain't got that much time of the
day to go through all that. So I started using
my camera.

Speaker 10 (21:07):
And uh.

Speaker 5 (21:10):
Focusing out my back window looking at the wood last
night catch I caught him beating on my house and
yelling at the window, and which I actually ended up
being a great audio capture on that one. But then
I started putting the I was catching too much air
conditioning noise. So I started plugging a mic into my

(21:32):
camera and putting it out, putting the mic out the window.

Speaker 3 (21:36):
I started getting.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
Better captured, you know, cause I was able to hear
a little further, but I was still capturing that loud
air conditioner sound.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
So eventually I.

Speaker 5 (21:48):
Just figured, you know, I got this set up, now,
let me get to where I can get away from
the air conditioner. So I built this just a bowl
uh leaveled ere mike with a one foot cord run
from the backside of my house away from this air conditioner,
runs back into the house, plugged it into my camera,

(22:09):
and from a camera I blue tooth to this right here, yo,
and I'm able to listen to everything that's going on
outside from right here where I'm sitting. And yo, when
they when they start going off, I can match with cord,
and there it is. I got to capture without having
to go to hours and hours and hours of listening to.

Speaker 7 (22:31):
Audio as ingenious. I thought about putting a turning parabolic
dish on the top of r R V and stuff,
or when I when we had the van too, and
I haven't got around to it yet, but when we
park up the woods and stuff, I thought that'd be
that'd be perfect. So yeah, appreciate that. Uh, we have

(22:53):
a couple of questions here, so we're gonna jump on there.
Here are your buddy, Wendell says, is uncle Jed coming
to Alabama? I don't know, did Okay? I didn't know
Jed either, so I thought maybe that was something you
knew and could answer. All right, Then Lee would like
to know have you actually heard talking or speech?

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yes, I'm back, they got it recorded?

Speaker 7 (23:18):
Yes, awesome is there? So again, we have a whole
ton of audio video pictures that Flat Rock has shared
with me for the show today. So if there's something
you guys specifically want to see, like certain type of
evidence or anything like the talking and stuff, let us

(23:39):
know and we will pull that up. Likewise, if you're
listening to this podcast only and you'd like to see
any of this stuff, we are also on YouTube and
you can head on over there and see the evidence
and videos and audio as well. So I'm going to
try so talking or speech. You have a whole folder
here label language or words corrected. Yep, okay, So what

(24:05):
what specifically do you think we want to play here?
Right off the bat, I.

Speaker 5 (24:09):
Mean open it up real quick, all right, language and words?

Speaker 3 (24:16):
All right, go to.

Speaker 5 (24:19):
The Triple zero three seven at ten forty nine pm
and you know you were here. Just say one one
word that might be more word, but it says.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Whusha hey tua. It's a really good audio.

Speaker 5 (24:33):
I've heard that whsha hey tua one time and it's
actually on a documentary that Stacy Brown had been down
in the Everglades where this guy who's no longer alive
that wrote it on a piece of paper, you know,
the same exact words, but didn't have tua on the end,

(24:56):
but he did have that hoosha hey and then another
the word on there, and it.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Was so yeah, I bringed that the stag in. Yeah,
it's pretty good.

Speaker 7 (25:08):
Cool. I'm going to see if this works. Hopefully you
can hear it. If you can't hear it, let me know.
But here we go.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Yep, that's it, you heard it.

Speaker 7 (25:32):
Yep, awesome, all right.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (25:39):
On the twelve, twenty three, twenty one, this was actually
at my bathroom window.

Speaker 3 (25:47):
They were drunking.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
Uh. It was also the night I was growled at
up from upfront, well not from up front. It was
one also hallm up front or a weird way I had.
It was more or less one like oh you.

Speaker 3 (26:01):
Know, like that right there.

Speaker 5 (26:03):
But you know, I held out the window, out of
the window, out of my back door, and within ten
seconds I got growled at right here on the woodline.
And uh, but this was the drunk and they was
doing at my at my bathroom window, or at the
woodline at the bathroom window. Yeah, and it's it's pretty

(26:24):
cool as well. You can actually hear them grunting out there.

Speaker 7 (26:28):
Here we go.

Speaker 3 (26:29):
I call it grunt language.

Speaker 7 (26:31):
Twelve twenty three.

Speaker 3 (26:32):
Yep, yeap.

Speaker 6 (26:49):
H m hm hm oh m hm m hm h
m h h.

Speaker 5 (27:16):
And it's how you hear on there this our sound.
It's not an owl that that you're hearing. It's actually
them m oh. I think the last one further over

(27:40):
towards the end. But that's that's basically what it what
it's doing right there, just that crunk h.

Speaker 1 (27:53):
H h m.

Speaker 7 (27:59):
Hm kah.

Speaker 5 (28:14):
That said, moving toward the house. I believe m hmmm, hey,
that's to day I'm doing that.

Speaker 3 (28:37):
I believe that was it.

Speaker 5 (28:38):
Farmy.

Speaker 7 (28:40):
Speaking of the mimicking, I noticed you have my personally,
I like trains and stuff, and I see that you
have a trained mimic on here.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
Yeah, it really was. I want to jump over and
let me tell you to back up of that. One.
Had some I have some great researchers here, one of
them being uh go go past you know the uh
no bs search for Bigfoot. I had this Pat Harrison

(29:12):
who's here in chat Go Parker, uh missus April, which
is Joe's of Joe pass his wife and uh, they
would stood two horrid days of rain out here, but
it was like three something in the morning, and uh,

(29:36):
I'm asleep during his audio.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
Uh you know, because there was also.

Speaker 5 (29:40):
Another audio of this howl that just lasted for a
good long while. But this one here, you know, I
had to keep this one. But you could hear the train,
you know, and then next thing, you know, you hear
this you know whatever. It was mimicking the dumb train

(30:02):
coming down the tracks, which is a long, good way
to wait for me here, but you know how sound
travels through the woods. But that was cool the way
that happened.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
That was a great audience.

Speaker 7 (30:13):
So the first thing you hear is a real train, yeah,
and then yeah, and then later on the mimic comes
in and it's pretty cool. So let's take listen to that.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
That's cold. But then I let that play again. Yeah,
you can play the second time.

Speaker 5 (30:55):
But yeah, man, that was cold.

Speaker 3 (30:57):
The way that when that happened, that was cold.

Speaker 7 (31:00):
It's got a long burst and then the two short
ones right after it.

Speaker 3 (31:03):
Yeah, it's like, yeah, yeah, that was cool.

Speaker 7 (31:09):
Let's see. We got a question here for you. What
kind of recorders are you using Do you have a task?

Speaker 5 (31:15):
Hem?

Speaker 3 (31:16):
No, I'm just using a Panasonic camera.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:20):
Uh, that way my audio and backed up on video,
you know, so it ain't just a video I have.

Speaker 5 (31:27):
I got the the video which is just a black screen,
but it's got the time, date and everything right there,
you know, for the original. So it's actually a backup
to what I'm putting now. But no, I ain't got
no recorder though.

Speaker 7 (31:45):
Yeah, Lee would like to know how many do you
think actually live there right now?

Speaker 3 (31:51):
I've seen too, family group and single mails.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
The first family group is no longer seen around here,
but soon after that it's another family group moved right
in behind it.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
But it was always a female, a juvenile and kids.

Speaker 5 (32:16):
Uh, never seen the males with the With the family group,
it was all with males were always single yo.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
But the family group were just a full family.

Speaker 5 (32:26):
But both groups, both families i've seen had three more
kids and.

Speaker 3 (32:31):
A juvenile and then you had the big mama.

Speaker 5 (32:33):
Yeah, but I've seen quite a few, but mostly you
know two family groups that I would say the most
of the Yeah, and.

Speaker 7 (32:43):
You said all except the one we're black.

Speaker 3 (32:46):
All but one were black. That was a big brown one.

Speaker 7 (32:49):
Yea you, Ninja says, how many have you seen? And
would you say that they looked like Patty?

Speaker 5 (32:57):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (32:58):
And no, I look like Patty.

Speaker 5 (33:01):
I've seen them look humanish, yeah, really look humans mostly
this kid looking on them, yo, real, real humane. I've
seen the gray faced ones. I've seen the black faced ones.
I've seen quite a few.

Speaker 3 (33:17):
I couldn't. It's more than.

Speaker 5 (33:18):
Fingers on my hands, yo, that I've seen.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
But that count. I couldn't tell you. I couldn't.

Speaker 7 (33:27):
Now when you say seen like, I know that you
have like some like you've seen them moving in the
my eyes?

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yeah, I know you.

Speaker 7 (33:36):
I know you've seen them like moving the trees and stuff.
Have you how many times have you actually seen them
just out on your property like daylight or or fully
bodied standing places.

Speaker 5 (33:47):
I took a picture just right out my back door,
right here with the whole family group just standing right
there in the.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
Tree h when me and my mom was on the
back porch.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
We've actually seen sing one down on belly and it
looked like it was worming across the ground. It didn't
look like your hands out beating.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Down it like a warm and goo.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
We've seen it come over a little tree Yah, laid
on the ground, just come right over a little tree
and come right up.

Speaker 3 (34:15):
To a woodline.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
It would just sit there walking, you tell it with
a young one.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
But Yoba, that's what we find.

Speaker 7 (34:22):
That's really interesting because I have a piece of footage
on thermal and it doesn't look right. And the only
thing that we can figure out is it looks like
it's army crawling. Yeah, it's this undulating motion. So I'm
really glad that you pointed that out because I have
thermal that matches that same undulating motion. So interesting. Uh,

(34:47):
let's see, we're gonna come back to that one. So uh,
the squatching cowboy man, how you doing?

Speaker 5 (34:53):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (34:53):
He would like you to talk about the kill zone.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
If when uh.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
Cowboy and Joe Parker and me, we went uh through
the woods here and we went down to the creek.
Were just walking around for for evidence, and uh, we
come across a tree that had a deer around it. Yeah,
I mean just deer, you know, wrapped uh right there,
looked like it was wrapped on a tree. Then we

(35:24):
walked a little further. There's another deer walk a little furthers.
Another deer walk a little further, another deer you know, uh,
from broken legs, the broken necks. Uh. They all look
like he died within the same around the same period
of time. But the biggest thing, some of them are
wrapped around trees, you know, uh literally wrapped around trees.

(35:48):
And it was uh, I won't say, seven deer right
there in that one little area. That's what we ended
up call a little killing field right there. Yeah, because
they were full bodied deer. You know, heads still there,
legs are still there, but you can till they were broken.

(36:09):
I actually put up a put in a picture there.
I believe it's a deer, uh, in my physical evidence thing. Yeah,
and you will see this, say, is almost exactly what
we were seeing. But with this one, I went out
there a week later and that's when I found this deer.

Speaker 3 (36:28):
You could actually see the.

Speaker 5 (36:29):
Skin uh, pulled up all the way to it broken neck.

Speaker 3 (36:33):
You know, you could see the skin of it at.

Speaker 5 (36:36):
The height of it, you know, all right there above there,
and yeah, he's all gone.

Speaker 3 (36:41):
But uh it was a buck.

Speaker 7 (36:43):
Yeah, picture of a coyote and a skeleton.

Speaker 3 (36:47):
Right that skeleton that's the deer.

Speaker 7 (36:49):
Okay, gotchak one second, there we go.

Speaker 5 (36:59):
Yeah, you see the skin all right, there where it's
neck supposed to be. Yeah, but that's the way we'll
find them. But we just find them wrapped around trees.
And that was just laying there on the ground. But
ye know, I mean, hell, whatever aid left the skin
all all the skin dropped their owner at the neck.

Speaker 7 (37:17):
Every bit of it, so that all the deer that
you were found had been eaten. They're not right.

Speaker 5 (37:25):
They were full body just like that right there.

Speaker 7 (37:28):
Yeah, when you when you said full bodied, I was
picturing that they were still all in tact.

Speaker 5 (37:32):
No, No, they were all eating, but intact like that
right there.

Speaker 7 (37:39):
Interesting, huh.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
And see I know they do that, yo, they slam
animals against trees. I actually got a recording. Uh it's
a cane. I don't know if it's a cavity or
domestic dog, but they're recording where uh you hear this thing.
It's hurt and you could hear a slam where they

(38:06):
slam this canine either into the ground, into a tree
or whatever. But once you hear that sound, it's dead silent.
After that dead silent, you don't hear that welthing and
all that no more?

Speaker 7 (38:19):
Is that the canine kill or something? The audio?

Speaker 3 (38:22):
Yeah, that's it. Yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 7 (38:25):
Let me figure out where that was.

Speaker 5 (38:28):
I think that would be in other vocals. Okay, yeah, yeah, get.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Past that highland because that happened right before.

Speaker 5 (38:42):
That happened before. Okay, that's the highland. That was happening
before the kill though, that's what they were doing.

Speaker 3 (38:54):
And then you'll hear the transaction, the transaction into the
kill itself. There's gonna be a.

Speaker 5 (39:49):
Little cut piece, you know, call taking time out, and
then you go start hearing that dog welcoing.

Speaker 6 (39:59):
Mm hmm, m.

Speaker 5 (40:16):
Mm hmmm. Right there, that was it?

Speaker 6 (40:53):
So is the.

Speaker 7 (40:56):
Is the dog barking there? Your dog? Where's that?

Speaker 5 (41:00):
That's one of the dogs here in the yard?

Speaker 3 (41:02):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (41:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (41:03):
Let was just say because it's really interesting audio, just
on the fact that you hear the three different kinds
of vocals there. You have more of a dog dog canine,
You have the coyotes yipping in the background and stuff,
and then you have this other deeper hole in the
beginning and stuff. Like you said, so you definitely can
tell the difference between the dog hole and whatever this

(41:23):
other thing is that's in there.

Speaker 5 (41:25):
Well, see the dogs barking out here, it's the biggest
clue that these critters are moving around, because the dog
will go literally nuts when these creators are around.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
We had a dog, you know, my brother dog, who
we believed that was killed out here.

Speaker 5 (41:44):
I caught that recording soon after my brother dog went missing,
never seeing again, and we do figure he got killed.
But yeah, that they they know a lot of people
actually drop their dogs off down the road on this
road we live off of, and so we've rescued quite

(42:09):
a few of them, but there's a lot of them.
Like what you hear right there, That happened back out
there in the woods, you know, close to our home.
So yeah, you say, we hear this stuff real easy
out there. That thing that canine, either.

Speaker 3 (42:24):
Dog or kote was killed. Yeah, right here would find
it close to the alcore.

Speaker 5 (42:30):
You could actually hear that flam yeah, I mean that's
how close it was that you could hear that slam.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (42:37):
And what's weird is you hear the big slam sound
or that that noise there and then all the coyotes
shut up. It's not just the one, it's because there's
there's obviously more than one coyote there, yep, And all
of a sudden they all just are quiet there, which
is is just insane to think about two of that?

(43:00):
You know, you have no nothing after that. I want
to come to this one right here. So caud you,
Ninja says, do you think that dog man is also
on the property.

Speaker 5 (43:13):
No, I'm a I mean I know, of all people
believe in dog man, I'm one who don't. I'm sorry,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (43:22):
Could it exit?

Speaker 5 (43:23):
Yeah, yeah, call it bigfoot exist? No way, don't Bagot.
I didn't believe bag puts it. But could it be
out there? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (43:31):
Do I perfectly believe in it?

Speaker 5 (43:32):
No.

Speaker 7 (43:34):
You have one picture here, and I bring this up
with this comment because to me, this one actually looks
more like a dog man than a bigfoot in my opinion.
And I'll show you which one that says you haven't
listed as a juvi two. So this image, okay, okay,
I'll see. Yeah, it almost looks like it has ears

(43:59):
if you follow these eyes, the nose here mouth, it
almost looks like it has ears on top of its head.

Speaker 5 (44:07):
Yeah. What it's doing is actually looking that way. Well
this that looking that way at the broad view side
view of it, you see where I got arm. You
could actually see a shoulder the rounded part of his
shoulder right here, moving downwards, but right there with that
stick goes across his face. Right above that, it's his

(44:28):
two eyes right there, and right below the stick.

Speaker 3 (44:31):
Is his mouth.

Speaker 7 (44:32):
Yeah okay, and then this is mouth.

Speaker 5 (44:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (44:35):
Interesting.

Speaker 5 (44:35):
You can see the you can see the beard right here.
You know. It was just that's just a young juvenile.
I actually caught another couple of them right there. You
could it's a mama and uh, it looks like a
mama big foot holding his baby up watching us in
the backyard.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
You know.

Speaker 5 (44:52):
Claud was right right across from my mom's back porch,
and we spent a lot of time in the backyard
at that time.

Speaker 3 (45:00):
And I got it on video, but the video only.

Speaker 5 (45:02):
Like two and two something minutes, And yo, I didn't
see it with my own eyes at that time, just
like I didn't see that one at my own at
the time.

Speaker 3 (45:12):
I just caught it coming out, you know, on the
video itself.

Speaker 5 (45:17):
But Yo, it looks like a big book, juvenile, big
book just right there, yo, just watching us from the
from the woodline.

Speaker 7 (45:30):
Now, there's so much and I get like, you know,
the there's so much paradolia in these pictures because like
I said, like to me, this thing looks like it's
looking right at you. Yeah, yeah, I see what you're
I see what you're here is these are the eyes
right here, yeah, and then the mouth top of head

(45:50):
here ye yeah, and then you got the shoulder coming down.
I see, I see what you're looking at yep.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (45:55):
And I I don't don't get me wrong here, like
I fully believe all the stuff. Like it's it's so
hard to look at a picture because you you you
took it. You know what's there, you know what's moving,
you know on.

Speaker 3 (46:08):
The dog mean thing.

Speaker 5 (46:09):
I'm just waiting for that a little bit more evident, Joe,
just a little bit more. I mean, there are some
good how captures out there. It sounds Whoofish, big Whoofish,
you know, beyond what Rador wools sound like.

Speaker 3 (46:25):
There's a couple of decent pictures.

Speaker 5 (46:27):
But there is a thermal out there that one of
my friends, uh this this Pat Harrison and Joe Parker
Cole out there at l B l.

Speaker 3 (46:41):
Uh whatever they caught.

Speaker 5 (46:44):
That you could see the main You actually see the
main around this creature. You know, this thing squares up
to him. It don't back off, It squares up to
him and it's really good thermal footage.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Thermal footage. It ain't no video. This is thermal footage.

Speaker 5 (47:02):
And yo, could I say that could possibly a dog man?

Speaker 3 (47:08):
That's the closest.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
Evidence I can think of that comes to a dog
man in my personal opinion.

Speaker 3 (47:13):
Yeah, because it's thermal.

Speaker 5 (47:16):
Absolute and you can actually see a snout there.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
You can't.

Speaker 5 (47:20):
You can actually see a snout there. But you know,
just my personal opinion, I just don't believe in dog man.
But yeah, they could be one.

Speaker 7 (47:31):
Yeah, Okay, we have a ton of questions here, are
going to catch up upon. Okay, Wendell says, show the
picture that he found in a tree.

Speaker 5 (47:43):
I ain't got that one in the folder. That's in
another bolder windle, but I know it's one you talk about, buddy.
It looks like a.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
Dark hairy critter up in a tree.

Speaker 5 (47:56):
It does. You know? It's from a video. I have
a cam right facing toward my house here, facing toward
the backyard, toward the back corner of my house, because
I think this was soon after they banged and yelled
out my window and banged on my house and there

(48:18):
was some black hairy thing there. But you know, I
go back and look at other footage from the same angle.
You know, from other footage that black thing ain't there
no more so.

Speaker 6 (48:31):
Interesting? Uh?

Speaker 7 (48:34):
Okay, have you have you casted any footprints or handprints
or even collected any hair?

Speaker 3 (48:41):
I have collected hair.

Speaker 5 (48:44):
I've had Stacy Brown Junior actually come out here and
uh uh take the samples of the handprint I got
off my port railing. That's actually in the physical evidence folder.
That's that's yeah, that's hair that another researcher had found
out in this little hut that we found out the woods.

(49:07):
And I told him to bring a shot back, you know,
a car back, and you know that was to go
across the ground sef he could pick up any hairs
and actually one of those hairs is his, the black hair,
that's his hair.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
And then you got the other hair right there, you know,
beside it.

Speaker 7 (49:30):
Yeah. Absolutely, there's also a clump of hair in here
right right.

Speaker 5 (49:37):
It's that's a clump of hair. Yeah, that we found
a couple of guys from Louisiana had come down and
we're walking down this trail. We come across the foot front.
They they cast at a footprint. It's also the time
we found this hut.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
You know, had a door in it and everything, and.

Speaker 5 (49:59):
Between the footprint and that hut was a huge stack
of hair.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
It looked like something laid down and roll back and forth,
you know, the way that hair was separated.

Speaker 5 (50:13):
From each other, and it just you know, it looked
like something did that right there and just left.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
The whole clump of hair down there. Got the whole
clump of it.

Speaker 5 (50:22):
That's just some of it, you know.

Speaker 3 (50:24):
I can't tell you what it is. Oh.

Speaker 5 (50:26):
I could tell you a hair that's all matted up, yo,
that ain't kody or rabbit or.

Speaker 3 (50:34):
Nothing like that.

Speaker 5 (50:34):
Coman you usue actually see the tarls in it, you know,
like that one up top. Yeah, you actually see the
trals in it right there, see the tarls. Yeah, it
was just wrapped up like that. But there was a
whole bunch of hair.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
And that's just some of it.

Speaker 5 (50:51):
I mean, that's all degraded now, I mean I never
sent that all. Yeah, But I couldn't tell you what
kind of hair it is, though.

Speaker 7 (50:59):
It was gonna say. You had mentioned that all the
ones on your property you had seen were black, and
that was great. Exactly Do you think that, well, do
you do you have, like any bears or any other things.

Speaker 5 (51:13):
I've seen two bear out here, okay, one big bear
and one small bear, so I'm faker and mama and
baby bear.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
But that was a few years back. I ain't never
ain't seen another bear since.

Speaker 5 (51:28):
But before that, they ain't been bears here in decades, decades.
But yet now they're trying to introduce them back in.
Y know, because Florida, which like I said, it's only
like thirty miles to the Florida state line. Florida is
loaded with black bear, so I wouldn't doubt you wouldn't
catch black bear coming up this way. But you know,
they just ain't been found in this county much at all.

(51:53):
I mean, because that's what I actually when I first
started seeing that. I mean, there's actually a video of
that I took with a baby monitoring camera, which I
actually thought was a bear at first, yo, and but
it ended up being one of them. You could actually
see it go behind a tree, you know, you can
see the ice behine and everything, yo, and it moves

(52:14):
around the tree. You'll see me tap that camera and
then start moving back in a way away from my camera.

Speaker 3 (52:21):
Y know. It's a really good.

Speaker 5 (52:22):
VI.

Speaker 3 (52:22):
I didn't think it was.

Speaker 5 (52:23):
Worth nothing, but you know, some top researcher said that
was great evidence.

Speaker 3 (52:28):
I mean I didn't see nothing of it.

Speaker 5 (52:30):
But that's me because you know, I'm I'm not no
researcher or anything, so I could tell you what good evidence.

Speaker 3 (52:36):
Is or not.

Speaker 7 (52:38):
You said that you're not a researcher. Have you ever
gone on any other properties? Have you gone anywhere else
looking or expeditions or anything?

Speaker 5 (52:45):
But yeah, yeah, I mean I'm going to camp out
meeting great Me and my friend, uh Tyler Howell from
Taller Howell Tyler Howell Outdoors.

Speaker 3 (52:56):
Now, he is a researcher.

Speaker 5 (52:57):
He lives over in UH, Florida, and uh he comes
over here a lot, a lot lot, but his research
area is over in UH.

Speaker 3 (53:08):
At Blackwater State Park, and Uh, I go there a
little bit.

Speaker 5 (53:13):
Yo. Mean, Uh, there's a a audio that we captured.
It says, you know Blackwater sand Bar. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
Uh We're standing there at the uh at the river
and then you hear these howls go off.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (53:28):
And I recorded from a from a Thermala was using because.

Speaker 5 (53:31):
You can hear that.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
Yeah, remember the UH girl talking.

Speaker 9 (53:39):
Story about the one deep living window that wind down
with a shotgun. Yeah, that's why I want to I
want to talk to that.

Speaker 5 (53:50):
Yeah. He lives right down the street.

Speaker 3 (53:54):
So you are talking about.

Speaker 5 (54:02):
There is there is.

Speaker 6 (54:07):
H kah.

Speaker 5 (54:35):
Let's see. But after about an hour from my house
right there, in an hour.

Speaker 7 (54:47):
We could get those frogs to just shut up during
all this we have some great Well.

Speaker 3 (54:52):
When you when you live by, when you when you
boy river, you gonna have a frog. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (55:00):
Oh absolutely, all right, I'm a couple come back here
and you want to hear you know, you.

Speaker 5 (55:07):
Hear a lot about babies, okay, Uh that people hear
baby crying out in the out in the woods. Now
when I captured that, yo, oh I enjoyed.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Here and something like that, cause it you know, it
proved me.

Speaker 5 (55:21):
You know these there are babies out there in the woods.
But it's uh if you'll see what it says, uh
eleven nineteen twenty two, uh prime eate like uh just
click on it and go to uh one fifty five
on the audio and you're here. You'll hear one of them,

(55:43):
you know, uh, and then you'll hear this baby yo,
just sounding all yeah. But at four fifty one am
zero there zero one.

Speaker 7 (55:55):
Yeah, am looking in here?

Speaker 5 (55:58):
Oh Saint Poter other vocals.

Speaker 3 (56:00):
Sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 7 (56:03):
Primate Lake eleven, nineteen twenty two.

Speaker 5 (56:05):
Okay, yep, and go to one minute fifty five seconds.
I don't put it right there to the baby.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Look, okay, you turned it down.

Speaker 7 (56:36):
That's as loud as it goes out here.

Speaker 3 (56:38):
Really, but you hear the other one?

Speaker 6 (56:51):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (57:00):
H yeah, call your boy and went way low.

Speaker 7 (57:06):
Let me.

Speaker 5 (57:11):
Call it was playing good and the next thing you know,
it just dropped.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
Yeah, yeah, looked good.

Speaker 7 (57:20):
Why did you hear that again?

Speaker 3 (57:25):
Okay, but that found it good?

Speaker 7 (57:36):
Let me try that. I don't know.

Speaker 5 (57:42):
Here you.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
And that dropped?

Speaker 5 (57:58):
H h right there.

Speaker 3 (58:34):
A little baby out in the wood.

Speaker 5 (58:36):
Yoah, but that's basically what you hear that woo and
then that baby.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
Yeah, that was a good gap for there to hear
a baby out in the wood.

Speaker 5 (58:45):
Yo. That was crazy.

Speaker 7 (58:48):
I don't know, it's just the way the audio is.
I have one video from you too that that has
no audio and I didn't know if it was supposed
to or not.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
But wait, which one that?

Speaker 6 (58:58):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (58:58):
Sure you want me to remember things?

Speaker 3 (59:05):
Videos? Just play number one there?

Speaker 6 (59:13):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (59:14):
That one had no no audio?

Speaker 5 (59:16):
Which one Clane. Okay, yeah, uh, that's the one. I
zoomed in on one on them. You can actually see
the juvenile the You'll see one eye and part of
the face of the mama, and then you'll see the
babies right here, right on her shoulders. Say, is that
the full.

Speaker 3 (59:38):
Is that the full video?

Speaker 5 (59:40):
I mean, go ahead and move it forward till I
zoom in on them.

Speaker 7 (59:44):
Yep. This one had no audio. That's why I thought
it was kind of weird. Yeah, I didn't know if
it was supposed to work.

Speaker 5 (59:49):
Actor was on, so I took the audio off. Called
the er conductor right there.

Speaker 7 (59:55):
Gotcha.

Speaker 5 (01:00:02):
Now, when I move that camera, when I see them
and i'm starting, I'm trying to zoom in on them. Yeah,
and you'll see them in that hole right there, right
between that uh where that tree goes sideways like this
right here, you'll see them on the right side of
the picture.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
On the video. There ain't no way you can zoom
in on that, could you?

Speaker 7 (01:00:26):
Mm hmm?

Speaker 5 (01:00:28):
I zoom in a little bit further in a minute,
I believe it. If not, I got the pictures of
them anyway. Okay, I still frame the pictures of them,
but I'm looking right at them.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
I mean I can't see them here on the phone.

Speaker 7 (01:00:50):
I could see movement the first time I watched this one.
You can see kind of like movement around back in there,
just like yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
I wish that I could actually yeah right here, yeah
uh yeah right there for what the juvenile is right there?

Speaker 3 (01:01:03):
You can actually see this side.

Speaker 7 (01:01:04):
You can see a little bit of a dark movement
there that's not tree. Yeah pictures, Yeah, there's some pictures
that look like this with the tree kind of bent on.

Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
Yeah, that juvenile and the pictures is twelve point one.

Speaker 3 (01:01:26):
And let's see.

Speaker 5 (01:01:30):
Yeah, family klan uh pictures. You can see family clan pictures,
family clan two m S mt S ten.

Speaker 3 (01:01:43):
Let's see.

Speaker 7 (01:01:48):
Uh yep, I got it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:51):
Yeah, And you can actually see the juvenile there and
family group in that little small circle.

Speaker 3 (01:01:59):
You can see the eye of it.

Speaker 5 (01:02:01):
And the children right there head up even with them.

Speaker 3 (01:02:06):
Okay, can you loom.

Speaker 6 (01:02:08):
In on that one?

Speaker 7 (01:02:09):
Yep? Where you want me zooming? All right, move it
to then you see my cursor.

Speaker 5 (01:02:16):
Yeah, right, moved to the right, going alright, go down
right there, go down right in there.

Speaker 3 (01:02:24):
Every family group right in there.

Speaker 7 (01:02:28):
Oh woop, hang on, hang on, run for sure.

Speaker 5 (01:02:34):
Right there, the one one big eye you see that
one big eye on the far right hand side, and
then three kids right there on his shoulder.

Speaker 7 (01:02:50):
You're looking at kind of like it. Okay, yeah, there's okay,
right there, there's an eye, and there's a nose and
a mouth.

Speaker 5 (01:02:58):
And then you got your three kid is right there
looking straight at you. Right there's one, there's another one,
and then there's one and then right there with that
stick is there's another one right there, and then there's
one on the other side of him. Now, if you
go down, you'll see the juvenile back it out just
a little bit. Keep going, all right, move it to

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your left, keep coming, all right, go all you you'd
be able to see him right there. No, keep coming,
keep coming, keep coming to the left, all right, he's
dead centering your screen right now, move your cursor right
now a little further over, keep coming the other way

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right there. Well yeah, right there, you can actually see
its eye and everything right there. H see his eye
right there, k yeah, But he's just they're just hiding
in them thick ass bushes right there, you know, which
is right right off my mom's port. But uh yeah,

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that was that was that second family group that moved in.
They were just in there hiding. I mean, they're actually
further back than what it seems like. I mean, it
looks like they're right there at the tree line, but
they're actually ten to twenty feet back from that tree
line right there. And I'm lucky to really get be
able to get.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
In on them, on them, on it to them.

Speaker 7 (01:04:28):
Yeah, I got a video that I wanted to play
here too. It's let's see walking through the yard three
eighteen twenty.

Speaker 5 (01:04:39):
Yeah, just looking go ahead, just uh look at that
center light. You know it looks like a cross, you know,
in the center of the frank cause at night time. Yeah,
right there, and you'll see them go across right there.

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There's actually two of them. There's one on all fours
that you will see the eye signed with and then
there's one that one standing up as hunt over yeah
new yard.

Speaker 7 (01:05:11):
Then I was noticing what looks like eye shine over
here and here later yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:05:15):
Okay, cause that's when they went through wind of that
block of woods which is straight behind right behind me
right now, and walked toward me toward the camera where
the camera was, and that's where the camera caught a
tye shine coming back toward the trailer, and then yo,
then took off back that way to the stream into

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the creek.

Speaker 7 (01:05:38):
All right, I'm going to uh.

Speaker 3 (01:05:52):
Just watch that tea area.

Speaker 5 (01:06:00):
Right there.

Speaker 3 (01:06:03):
That's where they walked across the yard. Let me see.

Speaker 5 (01:06:05):
That's also what mister Bob had seen on that July
fourth night.

Speaker 3 (01:06:10):
But he was up front.

Speaker 5 (01:06:13):
That was taken from right here out this window behind me.
You uh, clad watched him go this way, and then
I caught him coming back.

Speaker 7 (01:06:23):
So where do we see the one on all fours
that you had said?

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
He's on the ground.

Speaker 5 (01:06:27):
He's on a uh see them them bushes down there
when he cut the cross. When he comes to cross,
you will see that eye shine down there on the bottom.

Speaker 7 (01:06:37):
Yeah, remember that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:39):
Yeah, let's see every where he came to uh looked
at the uh toward the house, and then took off,
you know, toward the uh woods, toward the creek and all.

Speaker 7 (01:06:52):
And that's that is insane, like to see that eye
glow like that.

Speaker 5 (01:06:56):
Yeah, yeah, yes, I mean I ain't never feigned red.
I on mine's always been white to yellowish yo that
orangish amber white? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:07:10):
Are you talking just in video form or in person?

Speaker 5 (01:07:14):
I think video form.

Speaker 7 (01:07:17):
I was gonna say, because your video might not pick
it up as red. It might pick it up with
the ambient light and make it yellow. So now we're
still watching because there is something else you go in
and take off that. I mean that was all No, no,
I mean there was there's that other eyeshine that comes
in down here yet.

Speaker 5 (01:07:37):
So they had donet pass at Oh did we Okay
I missed it then?

Speaker 7 (01:07:43):
Yeah, right here you slept white white, kind of off
off center, straight above my cursor right here.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
Yeah, and when you come looked at the camera and
then it.

Speaker 7 (01:07:57):
Moves over by the tree on the far left of
the green as well. So okay, where did I get
right there?

Speaker 6 (01:08:09):
So?

Speaker 7 (01:08:09):
Where did I miss the one on the bottom because
I remember seeing that too.

Speaker 5 (01:08:14):
That was right there at the word the lot tea
light is you're saying, go across the bottom, that's when
you walk when they went when they walk across that light?

Speaker 7 (01:08:26):
Yeah, yeah, well I thought there was maybe that's a
different video. There's there's eyeshine that comes in down here?

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
Is that a different There are a couple of eye
shine videos?

Speaker 7 (01:08:41):
All right, all right, I want to get to some
more questions. How are we doing on time.

Speaker 5 (01:08:45):
We're at our day as long as you want due.

Speaker 7 (01:08:48):
Awesome man, Okay, I appreciate that. I want to get
through some of these questions here because people are are
listening and stuff. So what kind of things are they
stealing from your house? Do they bring them back? Have
you ever gifted with them?

Speaker 3 (01:09:01):
I don't know if ever brought anything back. I do
not give but what they have coming done. Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:09:08):
They do come up on our porches still on dog
food and cat food. That's when, uh, when everything first started,
you know, that's what they was coming up on the
porch grabbing.

Speaker 3 (01:09:20):
They were getting in my firepit.

Speaker 5 (01:09:23):
They would move the trash, the leaves and stick left
over burnt stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
They pulled it all the way over because.

Speaker 5 (01:09:31):
We burnt, you know, we also burned the food, left
over food, and they were moving all that stuff over.
Pin it down to the wall the fire pit and
get down there and grab the food that in the
fire pit.

Speaker 3 (01:09:44):
They'd get on our garbage cans, they would, uh you know.

Speaker 6 (01:09:50):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:09:51):
In August, I think Wendell on here was on a
on the zoom call. They were like six of us
and and I'm sitting outside with my dog and my
dog parked up and I looked over there on the
other side of my mom's house and the trees, and
there's eye Shine looking right at us. You know, I

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actually got what we actually got that fems. But coming
about day they uh was taking all the pairs off
the pear trees on the other side of my mom's house.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
There. They stripped that.

Speaker 5 (01:10:24):
Pear tree in two days. Two pair of trees and
two days. But that's how we called that eye ankle.
They would over there, uh taking all the pairs at
that time, you know. So that was a pretty good capture.
And you know, they was, like I said, the six
I was sitting there watching that thing, uh looking right
back at us. I mean, that was a really good
capture on that one as well.

Speaker 7 (01:10:47):
Okay, what else we got to hear? What is the
best advice to uh you have for someone who has
activity on their property?

Speaker 6 (01:11:00):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 5 (01:11:03):
My best advice would just I mean, if you wanted
to continue, uh ignore them and just let them come
on up. Yo. That's what I do, uh yo, I
mean I invite researchers. Came over here, miss miss pat
She's been over here I think three or four times,

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and I know She's captured a lot of good audio
and all that stuff. We caught some good thermo while
here as well. But that would be my advice, just
you remove all your cameras if you want them to
stay close and keep getting evidence, you know, just ignore them,

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pretend they're not there.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
Let them come up there there, they do their job.

Speaker 7 (01:11:50):
Yeah, when when you have cameras on, do you put
the cameras outside or have you put them like inside
the windows and stuff pointing out. I know some of
the videos inside, so.

Speaker 5 (01:12:00):
I've had done him inside and outside, mostly video from
the inside. Because Joe, that one back in the earlier days.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
In nineteen early twenty, when that one.

Speaker 5 (01:12:20):
Was beating on my house and yelling at the window,
I believe he was yelling at the camera because the
il was pointed toward that you know, it was pointing
toward that nesting area, and you.

Speaker 3 (01:12:31):
Can actually hear that sucker beating on the house yelling.

Speaker 5 (01:12:35):
But I think that's one he was mad because of
that camera pointed over that way. But I ended up,
like I said earlier, I kept moving my camera over
and over and over most sometimes every two or three days,
sometimes every day, I'd move a camera they'd come around,
you know, looking for it, and that's how I was
capturing them.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Yeah, did that?

Speaker 7 (01:13:00):
Okay, So I know this is the whole story there.
So I wanted to kind of clip this real quick.
But when when you said that they were beating on
the house and stuff like that, was that you can
hear the audio of it? Was that the brown one,
the brown one? Okay, So did the beating on the
house stop when the brown one disappeared?

Speaker 6 (01:13:19):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:13:20):
Okay, No, they still beat on the house. The last
time they beat on the house hard. Yo, I'm not
all about little love taps. The last time they beat
on the house hard. My wife just got back.

Speaker 3 (01:13:39):
Within a week of being here. Okay. Uh, I'm sitting
in here watching TV. She's in the room.

Speaker 5 (01:13:49):
Next thing, you know, what, what what? And you know,
my wife come running out the door of the room.
It was night times where we want to walk outside.
But I had some people coming over in a day
or two anyway, so I was telling them about you know,

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I thought it was right there, close to the window,
but it ended up being at the corner of the
house over there. You can actually still today, this has
been over a year, but you can actually still see
where they hit the house. You could actually see finger
smudge is coming down from the first hit. Up high,
you'll see fingers smudge.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29):
Is coming down.

Speaker 5 (01:14:30):
Then you will see a second hit, and then a
little lower you can see a third hit. But even
lower than that, you could actually see where it's kind
of like put its arm up against the house and
you see that old red mud and you see the
hares you know of it, fullarm right there up against
the house. It's all still there right now today, after
all the rains we've had over the past year, that

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stuff is still right there, right there.

Speaker 7 (01:14:56):
Okay. So on the flip side of this, your best
evidence of someone who has activity and the property if
they want to deter this, I mean, cameras are a
good option. You have a lot of outdoor lighting on
your property. It looks like has that had any effect
on keeping them away.

Speaker 5 (01:15:11):
Only got a Burger light up here, which is a
pole white. When we're getting a lot of activity, my
light wasn't on.

Speaker 1 (01:15:20):
It was.

Speaker 3 (01:15:22):
Blowed out or whatever put out.

Speaker 5 (01:15:28):
They would come up cause it would be I said,
completely dark. Now, there are some pictures where I actually
had a a floodlight. This is when we kept hearing walking.
You know, every time we'd pull in the yards from

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coming from the grocery store or restaurant.

Speaker 3 (01:15:51):
Right there at night time, we'd hear them.

Speaker 5 (01:15:53):
Walking away from something, somebody some thing walking away from
the house. Just before we actually knew about it. My
brother did, I didn't, my mom did. Uh wit here
walking away from us? So and this was right after
my dog got hit with a rock. So I put
this floodlight pointed into the woods right there where we

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kept hearing this walking walking away from us all the time. Well,
I put the camera out, yo, and just be there
it all night, you know, just let it run all
day night and uh within I reckon around the two
thirty mark.

Speaker 3 (01:16:37):
You see this, yo, that looks like a kid peeking
between the trees, between two trees.

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
Yo.

Speaker 5 (01:16:48):
I can't care if it's paradori or not, but this
looks like a kid, a humanist looking kid.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
I believe he's in the picture. Bolder, let me see.

Speaker 5 (01:17:01):
Yeah, uh thirteen two z V two A second road,
fourth picture across.

Speaker 3 (01:17:11):
It looks like a kid peeking, looking between the trees.
And you know, and to me it looks human.

Speaker 11 (01:17:19):
Yeah, you could actually see them looking between the trees
right there, and it still never gave me the the
thought that that could be a big foot there.

Speaker 5 (01:17:32):
Oh I know. Is I mean you've seen my bloodlight
looking through the pleasure through the trees, yeah, right there, Yo.
I still couldn't never say that was a big foot,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:17:48):
Oh no, it looks like a kid.

Speaker 5 (01:17:50):
Right there between the two trees.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
Could it be a paranormal event, Yeah it could, I
don't know, But yet there it is a kid.

Speaker 5 (01:17:59):
I mean you could, like I said, you can see
my floodlight flood up through the woodline. It's right there
on the edge of the light, you know where that
thing came up, and it was just looking yo, between trees,
perdoria whatever. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:18:15):
But how tall do you think that would be?

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
It ain't really that tall. I mean it's on the ground.

Speaker 5 (01:18:28):
I could tell that it's on that little hill right there.
It just looks like it's laid on the ground, yo,
between them two trees. I mean, I cut jacobse that
was back in twenty nineteen when that happened. I could
only guess that's about a foot and a half two

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foot off the ground maybe.

Speaker 7 (01:18:54):
I mean, there's there's so much like when you when
you start looking at pictures like this, I definitely see
a face there. Yeah, that's what looks like a bigfoot.

Speaker 5 (01:19:03):
Yeah, to then, it doesn't look like a kid. Back then,
I didn't believe in bigfoot, you know, because it came
from the area that that rock come from that hit
my dog. It came from the area where we was
hearing walking away from us every time we pulled up
in the yard. And that's what I got out of it.
Right there. I mean, there was another picture you know

(01:19:29):
why you're in the pictures that I caught real close
to that, and I also use it as my.

Speaker 3 (01:19:35):
Emoji.

Speaker 5 (01:19:37):
It's the third picture on the top road five eighteen
twenty that's actually in the same area as that picture there.
But I took this one right out out the window
of the r V and you could actually see them too,
just standing there.

Speaker 3 (01:19:55):
You know. It's five eighteen twenty. Yeah, that's it right there.
Yah yah uh.

Speaker 5 (01:20:00):
You could see the one right there with in the
bushes and the end of one right there every side,
and you can see the eye shine that's one of them,
and the other one right beside they eye shine right there.

Speaker 7 (01:20:12):
Yeah, so eyes, yeah, nose. This is the face ye.
And then this one's a lot closer right here. Yeah,
big nose yeah, China, yep. I don't. I don't know
one hundred percent believe you got them on your property

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and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
There's no doubt here.

Speaker 7 (01:20:37):
You get like there's so much paradolia. I see faces there.
Whether or not there, you know, bigfoot standing there, I
don't know, but there definitely looks like something there.

Speaker 5 (01:20:48):
Yeah, what you go to picture nine one, I mean,
that's not I just clipped this out just yoko. A
lot of people wanted to see children, and these are
the great faced children I talk about. You can see
them right there. Well, yeah, I got a blue line
pointing at one of them right there, right there.

Speaker 3 (01:21:07):
Yeah, you see the gray faced one right there.

Speaker 7 (01:21:14):
Mhm.

Speaker 5 (01:21:16):
That blue line is pointed right toward its face. You know,
the face is right down here, toward the bottom. Go
down a little bit, you'll see the eye right there.
That's the whole face of it right there. That's the eye.

Speaker 3 (01:21:31):
It's like a little girl right there.

Speaker 5 (01:21:32):
But there's three of them there, you know, back in
them bushes back there, that's right here behind the house.
That's part of that one family group, that first family group.
I had seen, but they're the whole family group. Pair
is a juvenile, a mama and them three kids right there,
two of three kids.

Speaker 7 (01:21:52):
Mus See, Okay, we have a lot of questions built
up over here. Have you have you found any large scat?

Speaker 3 (01:22:08):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:22:09):
Yeah, uh, simply okay, do you they show any aggression
towards you or others? You said they threw a rock
at your dog?

Speaker 5 (01:22:19):
They threw a rocket my dog. Uh. We believe they
killed my brother's dog. The sign of aggression when they
were beaten and yelling out my window. How they I

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believe they come hunted my dog one night. Uh you know, okay,
I called him.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:22:50):
They will first, then they whistled and they that's when
they got my dog barking. Yeah, they located and then Yo,
in the background, you can have to hear the mumbling
talk that people talk about, and you can actually hear
them mumbling back there.

Speaker 3 (01:23:11):
But outside that yo, I'll tell you back.

Speaker 5 (01:23:16):
I had a whole bunch of people over here in
October late September, late September, and Patrick Nobley was here,
Chris Ryan Hart was here, Pat and Joe Jody but
an energy, Adam Colt, and I think a couple more,

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but they pulled up, they started putting cameras out, I
are cameras.

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
Around.

Speaker 5 (01:23:51):
We all just got to sit down within an hour,
and next thing, you know, you hear this big old.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
Tree just getting pushed.

Speaker 5 (01:24:02):
You could hear it cracking, and then there it comes down, you.

Speaker 3 (01:24:08):
Know, And this was right beside us, right, we said.

Speaker 5 (01:24:11):
Just on the other side of the house.

Speaker 3 (01:24:13):
If that tree would have come my way towards my house.

Speaker 5 (01:24:16):
It would crush my house. That's how closed this tree was.
That morning, you know, we walked over there and found
the tree. And this is beyond Chris's little documentary that
he's done. You can actually see the poot prince down
pushed down into the ground where he's actually pushing us,

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you know, push this tree. We can't even make prince
down on this ground. But yet here's two big old
prince you know, would leaves all that stuff to push
mad down deep, and were pushed that tree over.

Speaker 3 (01:24:55):
It was a big old mass of tree.

Speaker 5 (01:24:57):
I mean, big old mess of tree.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
Read. But later that night.

Speaker 5 (01:25:04):
They started knocking where every camera was. You heard a
knock right where every camera was lined up.

Speaker 3 (01:25:13):
Through the woods, and you know, uh, basically pushed them out.
You know, they showed her a.

Speaker 5 (01:25:21):
Little had a little bit, and then mood moved back,
you know, or at least at least wait from my
fence line. Anyway, but yeah, aggression.

Speaker 7 (01:25:35):
Now you you talked about I don't know if you
we were talking about this before the show, maybe the
uh trail camera picture and you said that he fired
off the shot and then everything went nuts that night.

Speaker 5 (01:25:49):
Uh no, that was that was a little uh that
wasn't a trail camera. This was when we was this
is when it first started happen, when we first got
to Inkling you twenty nineteen. We cooked out that day
on back porch and uh, all that ended, yo, nighttime

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was you know, just happened, you know, got dark. Bob
calls me up, said, just seen someway across the yard,
just like that video you've just seen of.

Speaker 3 (01:26:20):
One going across the yard.

Speaker 5 (01:26:22):
He's seen it from up front looking back this way.
That video was from back here looking that way.

Speaker 3 (01:26:29):
But the same thing.

Speaker 5 (01:26:30):
Yo. Anyway, we went after it, thinking it was people.

Speaker 3 (01:26:36):
Went after him, Yo. We had our guns, couldn't find him.

Speaker 5 (01:26:42):
So we come back up to the porch and as
we just started talking, we heard the rustling right there
in that one little area, and we went down to it.
We told him, yo, we hear him, come on out.

Speaker 3 (01:26:57):
Nothing was said.

Speaker 5 (01:26:58):
We said it again again, nothing said, and I just
told him, you know, going through the woods, you know,
geting out toward the road, don't come back to this property.
And by the time I said that, Bob shot a
bullet off in their.

Speaker 9 (01:27:12):
Well.

Speaker 5 (01:27:12):
That night, after we all went into the house, I
couldn't tell you what time it was, but something come
out of these woods, come in behind my mom's house,
started screaming, yelling, they're ripping ship ripping shit up back there.

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You could hear yo, the patn Yo. I'm still thinking people,
you know, cause I ain't never heard of big foot
before that I knew back then, but you.

Speaker 3 (01:27:45):
Know, I mean that shit was scary as hell.

Speaker 5 (01:27:48):
But yo, I'm thinking again, these are people coming to
our York just trying to scare us out of here,
being the first people live on this property, being really
good hunting hunt, probably because it used to be a
hunt property right here. But that was most scarious night

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I ever went through. But I thought that was people,
though I did, I really thought that was people.

Speaker 7 (01:28:15):
So let me ask you if you thought that was
people and you had gone out there with your guns
to scare them off. Ready, why didn't you go out
there when they were making all that hollering and stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:28:26):
I wasn't going out there if that was a bunch
of damn people out there. I got a rifle with me,
but I'm not going out there. They might have rifles too, Okay, yeah,
I mean shit, I had my gun ready. But you know,
they never say, here's the trailer. Okay, here's what I wrong.
Trailer right here. Her other trailer is right here. Once

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she's staying in the single wive. This is the double
wise back here where they were behind me. I'm in
front on the side of the older trailer. Okay, yeah,
uh window right here in the back, looking straight back.

Speaker 3 (01:29:04):
Toward the corner of that new home.

Speaker 5 (01:29:07):
Is They never come around that new new home right there.

Speaker 3 (01:29:11):
They stayed back there.

Speaker 5 (01:29:12):
But uh, that's where all my mom's stuff was still
packed up on her back porch back there, getting ready
to move into that new trailer.

Speaker 3 (01:29:21):
So yo. The next night is when I started putting
out recording.

Speaker 5 (01:29:27):
That's when I first started recording, you know, because we
thought people was coming up stalling Yo, I figured you
know them people that was back there that I thought
with people, Yo was back there, staying, trying to run
us out of there whatever. Yo, I wasn't near that
long when that happened. From October to the end of

(01:29:49):
October to July, that ain't a very long period of time.
But Yo, that was crazy as shit. Dude, excuse my language,
but that was crazy last night. But that's how it
all started.

Speaker 7 (01:30:05):
YO.

Speaker 5 (01:30:05):
If you once you know, yeah, and then you can
back it up. Yoe, Now I know what that was
back there because the recording, uh, that next night recording.
When I first listened to it, I didn't know. I
didn't understand what what I was listening to. But you

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could hear the grill open up. You can hear lapping, yo,
lapping uh, which up the grease trap. Then you hear
the this mumbling noise, uh walking on the back porch

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and these weird sounds. I mean it almost like something
moving uh things back there. But this is the language
that were actually hearing. But I mean it's in that audio, Boulder.
But that was.

Speaker 3 (01:31:06):
Just crazy. But we never figured out you know who
or what was I.

Speaker 5 (01:31:11):
Mean, the only reason main reason we thought a bad
group of people. Our neighbor that lives close to thirty
one up here. Uh, he's lived here all his life
and he had told my brother that they used to
be a bad element of people in this area. O words,

(01:31:34):
you know, mess cooking all that shit. And that's what
I really fell back to, you know, but I mean,
just like to walk into the woods, you know, away
from us.

Speaker 3 (01:31:46):
It's people. Yeah, no such thing as big, but it's people.

Speaker 7 (01:31:51):
But have you ever or anybody on your property shot
at them other than that night?

Speaker 5 (01:31:59):
Now?

Speaker 7 (01:32:00):
Shot in general? Like uplate that.

Speaker 5 (01:32:04):
That was the only time, And that's the only time
that you know, outside that one screaming and banging on
my house.

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
H that one night, that was the only other time.

Speaker 5 (01:32:15):
But they did that, and that was a whole bunch
of them that did it that night, a whole bunch
of them. But that one on my side of the
house here which happened months later, that was only one
of them. Yeah, that was banging and yelling.

Speaker 3 (01:32:29):
I mean, if you want to here the the hot
kind of what it founded.

Speaker 5 (01:32:34):
Like, hold on, let me see which folder it is.

Speaker 3 (01:32:39):
Mm hmmm hit host Uh no, hold on, okay, let
me get to it.

Speaker 5 (01:32:47):
Some reason I close my folder. It's being the hit house. Uh,
this is the very first one yelling and banging. H h.

Speaker 3 (01:33:08):
H you haven't hit my house.

Speaker 6 (01:33:12):
H hm.

Speaker 5 (01:33:32):
Now when we're here and yelling all over there eating
at my mom's house. When that happened, we didn't hear
the bang. We got heard of yelling from overhere and
on the video and you could actually see a come
outside yo with a flashlight looking seeing who that is
yelling out out here out here in the yard.

Speaker 3 (01:33:55):
But yo, I didn't.

Speaker 5 (01:33:56):
We didn't figure it out until I came back and
read you the footage and seeing that was right here
in my house. That's about all of you at the end,
up your hear and go whoo. Because he see we
flashed the light toward him. That's when whoo and then
took off. But the one that says whistling hitting the house,
that's when they come up and slap my uh my

(01:34:17):
front glass door. They actually opened up my front door
that night. I wasn't in the house, but the camera
was going. You can hear him.

Speaker 3 (01:34:27):
Slap my front door real hard a couple.

Speaker 5 (01:34:29):
Of times, and uh, you know you might be able
to hear him open my front door. I mean, I
hear it, but I don't know if it sounds off good.

Speaker 3 (01:34:37):
Enough on this right that where he slapped my door
right there.

Speaker 7 (01:34:55):
I wasn't wild, but yeah, you can hear it right there.
Have you ever had them up on your roofs?

Speaker 5 (01:35:04):
I do know people who had them up on the roof, Uh,
Greg house has the only time I could say that
they've been up on my roof. Not on my roof,
but over at my mom's house. We're sitting overwhere we're
watching some kind of movie. I mean, we didn't have

(01:35:25):
caboard not so we just watched movies. We heard something
run across the roof. You know, we just blew it
off as an animal, you know, a smaller critter, cat
cone whatever, I mean, louder.

Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
Than that, but yeah, still just blew it off.

Speaker 5 (01:35:47):
I mean, there was a lot of stuff we just
blew off back here.

Speaker 6 (01:35:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:35:53):
Uh, Blue Eyed Northern says, Joe caught red Eye Shine
on your property. You had mentioned that.

Speaker 5 (01:36:01):
I did forget about that. He did they catch They
caught that on camera?

Speaker 3 (01:36:05):
Sure did?

Speaker 5 (01:36:06):
Sure did A got on them. Thank you, miss Pat.
I forgot about that one.

Speaker 3 (01:36:11):
Awesome.

Speaker 7 (01:36:12):
Uh have you you've put out game cameras on your property.
Has that kept them away?

Speaker 9 (01:36:16):
No?

Speaker 5 (01:36:17):
I put out floodlights, uh, trustan, and it still didn't
put them, It didn't move away. And then let me
tell Christian this, Uh the one video, first video in
that in that group. Okay, Uh, I watched this creature

(01:36:39):
for an hour and a half out in the yard.
Now I thought it was a bear att first. And
did I believe it was a bear the whole time
until you know, uh, some big time researchers said it wasn't. Okay,
you will see this trick. Yeah, you see him right
there beside the tree. This was done with a baby
monitoring camera. And you seen them before they got light,

(01:37:01):
an infrared light all the way around it. Okay, it's
shining right at this creature. Okay, you see it ain't
bothering him a damn bit, not a damn bit. But
watch him.

Speaker 3 (01:37:16):
You see him moving over. That's all he's done the
whole time, just kept moving over.

Speaker 5 (01:37:19):
And moving over. Once he gets behind this tree, you'll
see he bumped this camera yo over twice. That's when
he goes down and back toward the tree line back
here in the backyard. So that's his eye rate there right, yeah,

(01:37:44):
like I said, yeah, I watched this career for an
hour and a half. All right, I'm bumping the camera
over all.

Speaker 3 (01:37:50):
Right, here he goes.

Speaker 5 (01:37:52):
I think I'm bumping one more time. Yep, there it is,
and now he takes off down and back there he goes.

Speaker 7 (01:38:01):
This is the video I was talking about where the
icehine was in the bottom corner.

Speaker 5 (01:38:05):
So all right, that's my brother right there. That's how
high that I found was. It's higher in his hand, right.

Speaker 7 (01:38:15):
Huh. Very cool. You said you've had him slap the house,
throw rocks at your house, or even try and break
in your house. We just kind of covered that one.

Speaker 5 (01:38:26):
So that was a puestion there, So alright, thanks so much.

Speaker 7 (01:38:34):
There's there's so many. I mean, like we we we'd
spend the entire episode just clicking through photos and videos
and stuff of yourself, just kind of pulling whatever you
guys want to see.

Speaker 3 (01:38:46):
Your rocking go all day was.

Speaker 5 (01:38:51):
On the on that fourth one over on the videos,
you could actually hear the tree break that one night,
uh twenty one dot seventeen, that's the one that they
busted that night.

Speaker 7 (01:39:06):
This is the video that you were talking about earlier,
or the tree is this is where.

Speaker 5 (01:39:11):
The tree gets broken. I don't know where they had
the camera set, but you got to hear this tree.

Speaker 7 (01:39:17):
Yeah, I was. I was gonna ask you if that
was this video because I it is. Okay, so hang
on one second. I turned the audio down on this
because it was bad on that one. So all right
there we.

Speaker 3 (01:39:52):
All right, here we go. You hear it popping out
the tree. Some people come out of their skin that night, dude, So.

Speaker 7 (01:40:10):
What is Was it lightning or what was it up
in the sky up there? What did you no? Right
in the beginning here there's some like flashes up here
where the camera picks up on it. It might just
be flashlight, okay right about in here.

Speaker 3 (01:40:28):
M there right there. I don't know what that was.

Speaker 5 (01:40:33):
It wasn't lightning. I think I had to be a
flash flight or something, or it was one of them
cameras going on.

Speaker 7 (01:40:44):
Oh one of the IR cameras. Okay, that would be okay, yeah,
because even your your motion tracking picks up on it.
And I was like, wonder what that is because I
was waiting for the like to be able to see
the tree come down.

Speaker 5 (01:40:58):
But yeah, I wish we'd Yeah, I mean it was
just don't see I.

Speaker 7 (01:41:01):
Mean, let the camera just takes a vacation there.

Speaker 6 (01:41:04):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:41:06):
That tree was dead even with my house yo. Uh,
dead center right through right on the other side of
the fence yo. And it got pushed, got pushed that
way yo.

Speaker 6 (01:41:21):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:41:21):
And the foots the feet that's right there with that's
left over that tree. You just see both feet on
the side and you go exactly where that tree fell,
you know. I mean that that's just scary knowing they
could have actually pushed that tree our way, you know,
and it would have either got Joe and Pat trailer

(01:41:44):
that we was all sitting under, or it would have
got my house. You know. It took at least that
whole master bedroom and bathroom out and my laundry room out. Yoh,
and probably would have got into my kitchen there.

Speaker 3 (01:42:00):
Yeah. I mean it was just that close.

Speaker 7 (01:42:03):
Blue Eyed Northerner says, camera trying to catch movement. Camera
was placed on my camper.

Speaker 3 (01:42:08):
Yep. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 7 (01:42:13):
Okay, so we have one question here, and I want
to tie this into what you were talking about. You
haven't told the story yet on this episode, So with
what happened with the Big Brown one and before we
do that. I'm going to give you this as a
prelude to that. Lee has asked, have you had any

(01:42:33):
m I B men in black or you know, government
or anything come and try and talk to you or
anything since you've been talking on podcasts or anything else
about your experiences.

Speaker 3 (01:42:44):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (01:42:44):
I don't talk much on podcasts, but I'm really not
much of a talker, never have been. The only thing
I can think of is the only thing. We had
an encounter here.

Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
One night, my.

Speaker 5 (01:43:02):
Brother was part of it, and he ended up calling
David guy over into Expedition.

Speaker 3 (01:43:12):
Bigfoot, Dave Sheeley.

Speaker 7 (01:43:16):
No, uh, he's the other.

Speaker 5 (01:43:19):
Expedition Bigfoot over in Georgia. Okay, Uh yeah, I forget
his last anim It started with a B. But anyway,
that morning, I never I never knew my brother had
called him. Okay, that morning, I walk outside and you
see this helicopter come and he whirling around my house, Yo,

(01:43:45):
just going round and around. You could actually see the
guy head sticking out the side of the damn helicopter
looking down. I mean I could actually see this guy looking.

Speaker 3 (01:43:56):
Down toward my house. Okay, he left, and you know,
my brother come out.

Speaker 5 (01:44:07):
Mister Bobby, come out. Yo, we're talking about this. Get this,
the helicopter flying over my house. I went to the store,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:44:18):
Soon after.

Speaker 5 (01:44:21):
By the time I got back, my brother Bobby, and
mister Bobby said that helicopter come back and he circled again. Okay,
call anybody or anything, he says, Yes, I called the
uh the museum over in Georgia.

Speaker 3 (01:44:42):
Well, yo, I called.

Speaker 5 (01:44:44):
David up and I cussed him out, you know, ask
him why he sent the helicopter in my house, and
he swore up and down he didn't. And I believed
the guy, yo, But I did also tell him. I said,
you know, I believe somebody's either got your tap, your

(01:45:05):
phone taped, or they're listening to us one to two.
But I believe, you know, they were listening over his phone,
you know, because we ain't even never put nothing out before,
you know, on any podcast, never even talked to nobody
except for a pastor, you know, which was a Bigfoot researcher.

Speaker 3 (01:45:26):
But that's the only thing I can think of.

Speaker 7 (01:45:29):
Yeah, that that's really interesting that they would have like
a Bigfoot museum tapped for information and stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:45:36):
Yeah, because I.

Speaker 7 (01:45:37):
Mean, way if you've never talked about before or anything
had an encounters and why would they be tracking you guys.
But I could definitely say we hadn't encountered at the time.

Speaker 5 (01:45:46):
But I'm just saying, you know, when that we ain't
never told nobody outside outside this area other than this
pastor researcher. You know, he was the only one who
knew anything, yo, about what was going on here.

Speaker 7 (01:46:02):
Interesting and then okay, for anybody that has not heard
the story from like I said, you run Doug's podcast
a while ago, but I think this is fascinating as well.
You you had a lot of aggression or you know,
problems with this one brown one on your property, and
you want to talk a little bit about what happened
with that.

Speaker 3 (01:46:21):
Yeah, I'll tell you. Well, this big brown one, yo,
we've seen it one following my mom.

Speaker 5 (01:46:28):
Okay, everywhere my mom went, this big brown one was
there when we walked out.

Speaker 7 (01:46:36):
When was this in relation to coming onto the property
and all that?

Speaker 5 (01:46:39):
Twenty nineteen, twenty nineteen. Everything was twenty nineteen, yo. I
mean we've seen bigfoot. Just we've seen bigfoot since this happened. Okay,
I've seen that big black one yo that was looking
toward Bobby working on the cookshack. That was my first
one I seen.

Speaker 3 (01:46:59):
So anyway, I got this. I went out the gate.

Speaker 5 (01:47:10):
And I seen the game warding over at the creek.
I pulled him and I was already had pictures and
some good audio at the time, and I started talking
to him about, you know about you know, this area,
and I started talking about these big hairy critters that
was coming onto our property and he said could I
would I show him. I brought him onto the property

(01:47:34):
and I was showing the area, you know, where this
creator was, and you know that's what I told him.
You know, he was this thing's been following my mom.
He been beating on our houses all this stuff, and
you know, we started talking. I told him we wanted
to shoot this critter because you know, the safety purpose
from my mom. And he said, you know, we couldn't

(01:47:58):
shoot him unless they were there. Yeah, the only way
we could shoot him. But they were fatally protected. And
he told me that straight out of his mouth, that
these critters were federally protected.

Speaker 3 (01:48:13):
And I said, wait a minute, wait a minute.

Speaker 5 (01:48:16):
How they federally protected if these creatures don't exist. Yeah,
he could not answer that whatsoever, you know, so we
went off to other conversations, but eventually he left.

Speaker 3 (01:48:27):
Okay, he left.

Speaker 5 (01:48:29):
A few weeks later, I'm filming toward that nestinary at
night time and uh, I see this flashing light around
that net going around that nest.

Speaker 1 (01:48:42):
Yo.

Speaker 3 (01:48:42):
You see it starting from.

Speaker 5 (01:48:43):
The bottom and moving upwards, and you see that light flashing.
I didn't know what it was at first, yo, and
then uh, when this one guy started talking about.

Speaker 3 (01:48:55):
Drawns, that was the only thing it could have.

Speaker 5 (01:48:58):
Been with a and that's that I are light flashing
filming in.

Speaker 3 (01:49:03):
That area that I just showed that Uh that game
war there, it is right there and yoe, so, I
mean it.

Speaker 5 (01:49:15):
Took me a little water figger what like that was.
But you can see the flashing light right there moving upwards,
just right there where I showed that game warden, exactly
where we were standing at where that light is right now,
and it's just taking pictures or videoing through the right
there at that woodline. Well, a few weeks later we

(01:49:40):
started hearing machine gun fire going off through the woods.
First day it was closer close to us, and it started,
you know, you know, eventually during.

Speaker 3 (01:49:50):
The day it was moving off.

Speaker 5 (01:49:51):
But this lasted for two to three days.

Speaker 3 (01:49:54):
The only reason I say two to three days, I
only believe it was.

Speaker 5 (01:49:57):
Two days of shooting. Mister Bobby said it was that
he heard three days of shooting.

Speaker 3 (01:50:04):
So that's why I stayed.

Speaker 5 (01:50:05):
Two to three days of multiple machine gun fire, automatic weapons,
tracing off through the woods every day, further and further
and further away.

Speaker 3 (01:50:16):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:50:17):
But from then, we have never seen this big brown
one again, or that family group that was here at
that time, you know, the only time that.

Speaker 3 (01:50:29):
That the last time we ever seen that big brown one.
That was the last time.

Speaker 5 (01:50:35):
We I don't know if they killed him.

Speaker 3 (01:50:37):
I don't know if they just run him.

Speaker 5 (01:50:39):
All. All I know is it was never seen again
around here, never seen again.

Speaker 7 (01:50:46):
That is an insane story. I mean, just the fact
that there's so much levels, so that the fact that
they're on your property, potentially with a drone, you know,
thermal imager or what have you, you know, and and
then the fact that he comes out and tells you
that these things are federally protected.

Speaker 3 (01:51:04):
He actually said that.

Speaker 5 (01:51:06):
I could not believe it because I'm you know, I know,
I'm no longer in the mind frame that these creatures
don't exist. But I know that's what the narrative is
out there at this time, because you know, I've been
watching some things not.

Speaker 3 (01:51:23):
On YouTube but on Google videos and all, but never
to know that that that was gonna happen, never knew,
never knew.

Speaker 5 (01:51:38):
But the sereem has se him say that fairly protected stuff.
And you know, also with the narrative of the day
don't exist.

Speaker 3 (01:51:47):
It just did not jive. But yet that's what was said.

Speaker 7 (01:51:51):
Now that is interesting though. Now you could take that
a couple of different ways. You could take that as
like top secret government information that he's just let slip
to you. But if you also think of it, there
are certain counties, certain states and stuff where these things
are on the books of being protected.

Speaker 3 (01:52:08):
Yes, I'll tell you one.

Speaker 7 (01:52:09):
Yeah, have you looked into me anything in your area
to see if they are, like on the books protected.

Speaker 5 (01:52:15):
Just there the closest one that I know that the
federal wall, not state law, federal law. It's the Lower
Swannee River. Uh, it's in Florida, but it's in the
federal hunting regulations that you cannot shoot molested skunk capes

(01:52:40):
or whatever they got in there. It's in the hog section. Anyway,
that of that federal manual YO hunting regulations, not state
that's federal. So that's federal law right there. And to me,
that's basically what the guy was telling met right there

(01:53:01):
right there. Federal law, state law, federal law. Ye got
there a big difference between them two, you know. But
this is federal Lower Swanee Hunting regulations. It is federal law,
not state law.

Speaker 7 (01:53:18):
Yeah. Uh, Patrick Noble would late to know where can
you read that law?

Speaker 3 (01:53:24):
It's uh in the Lower Swanee. It's in the Lower
Swanee Hunting Regulations in a hog section. Yeah, I'll send
it to you.

Speaker 5 (01:53:35):
Patrick. Awesome, will you Internet?

Speaker 7 (01:53:42):
You have been absolutely tremendously gracious with your time and
your stories and sharing everything today, I want to thank
you so much for spending so much time with us
and hand.

Speaker 3 (01:53:52):
Giving up on.

Speaker 6 (01:53:54):
Giving up.

Speaker 7 (01:53:57):
I'm just making giving you an out if you want
to go.

Speaker 3 (01:54:02):
Now, just play it with you.

Speaker 7 (01:54:05):
I think I think we are all caught up on
everyone's questions. If I didn't get your question, I apologize
I didn't see it. If you guys have any.

Speaker 5 (01:54:15):
Last Barry, can we showed one more thing, I mean justice,
my point that these creatures actually come around looking for
your camera.

Speaker 3 (01:54:24):
It's just on the videos. It's just as eye shine, okay, okay.

Speaker 5 (01:54:28):
And to set this up, I'm filming toward the mirror, okay,
because I know they was coming from behind my house. Okay,
So I'm pointing my camera toward mirror and off to
the side, on the side of that mirror, you'll actually
see one the eye Shine come around that camera, around

(01:54:50):
that mirror in the woodline, looking at my camera and
then walking back away. I never see that creature again
that night, but he actually come around that mirror, the
around that mirror to see my camera and then move away,
coming around looking for my camera.

Speaker 7 (01:55:07):
Is this late in the Yeah, just said I don't
have one that says just eye shines.

Speaker 3 (01:55:14):
No, no, not just I just says I chine.

Speaker 5 (01:55:18):
You see August I find August twenty twenty five is
the one right after that one image second row, four
fourth picture, fourth video.

Speaker 7 (01:55:31):
Second row. That depends how your screen is formated.

Speaker 5 (01:55:35):
There's five five on each row.

Speaker 3 (01:55:40):
It just says I shine. That's all I says.

Speaker 6 (01:55:42):
I doin't.

Speaker 5 (01:55:45):
I don't have that really, I have it in the
video folder.

Speaker 7 (01:55:49):
It is, Yeah, I have the eye Shine. August twenty
twenty five the zoom call one and then I have
image and late in woods or eye shine.

Speaker 3 (01:55:57):
Really show it just as I find.

Speaker 7 (01:56:00):
That's all says just I apologize I don't have that one.

Speaker 5 (01:56:03):
Okay, well we'll forget about them. But anyway, it just
shows Joe.

Speaker 3 (01:56:10):
These creatures come around looking for your camera.

Speaker 5 (01:56:13):
They'll come off the edge and look and see if
that camera is there, and then there back out and
it shows they're coming around looking for these these trail cameras.
Whatever camera you got out there, you know they're coming
looking for it. And if it's one them passive yo,
passive by ours, they're gonna toss something in front of it.

(01:56:35):
They know the camera, what they go. I don't know
if they know what they look like, but they know
that they're there. I don't know if they smell them out,
they know whatever, but I things sticks fly in front
of my camera yo, and I catched a stick going
across in the camera, So I know they're they're seeing

(01:56:55):
that them cameras are active, but they are looking for
these cameras and and it makes sense that that's why
we're not catching them on camera. It took me to
move my camera every day to catch peach.

Speaker 7 (01:57:07):
I think absolutely. We are going to wrap things up
here in just a little bit. But if you guys
have any last minute questions, this is your opportunity, because
you know, it's not every day that you know, like
you said, flat Rock doesn't do many podcasts or interviews
and stuff, and this is an amazing opportunity for you
guys to have a chat. And there's so much that
we didn't get to. Maybe we can answer a question

(01:57:29):
or play audio or something that we haven't yet. So
throw your questions all caps. We'll give you a couple
of minutes left here.

Speaker 9 (01:57:36):
Now.

Speaker 7 (01:57:36):
You you don't have a YouTube anymore. You said you
took that down too many people bothering you about stuff
and that. Do you have any any of this stuff
online where people can look or I got on.

Speaker 5 (01:57:47):
My Facebook page under flat Rock flat Rock wood Buggers,
it's easy to find. I got some good audio there,
some pretty good little bit of stuff up there, you know,
and other things that happened in this area. Yeah, reported
from from our newspaper.

Speaker 7 (01:58:10):
I got one more video that I would like to
play that I saw here. Uh, let's see not the herd,
the shadow on the porch.

Speaker 5 (01:58:19):
Oh yeah, yeah, let me set that up real quick.
Camera's in my mom's house. Okay. You can actually see
the RB that I'm staying in out front out there, okay,
but the camera's pointing toward the corner of her house
where you know, on another video you can actually see

(01:58:39):
him run up, you know and just stop, you know,
cause only catching shadowed of them, just like I did
on this one. But pointed camera that way, and I figured,
I'll go catching coming around.

Speaker 3 (01:58:51):
What is this thing doing?

Speaker 5 (01:58:53):
He comes the other way and druns up the porch
steal cat food or dog food. You'll see a cat
come running down and then you'll see him come off
running again, going back the other way, looking about my
camera and that's why he's coming around on the other side.
Damn house.

Speaker 3 (01:59:12):
That made me mad.

Speaker 7 (01:59:14):
Yeah, I thought it was a fox at first. That
comes in here and I had to rest my cat.

Speaker 5 (01:59:19):
Yeah, cat safest, place it in far.

Speaker 3 (01:59:22):
Of a camera.

Speaker 7 (01:59:23):
Yep, you see right in here. You'll see like the
shadow come across, yeah, right on this corner kind of
behind the car there.

Speaker 3 (01:59:30):
So yeah, yeah, there you goes.

Speaker 5 (01:59:39):
I had to take the audio off of that one,
called you hear me actually get up and go use
the restroom and then come back lay down and that's
when he comes back off the port. Ya.

Speaker 3 (01:59:52):
So he must have woke me up, yo, when uh.

Speaker 5 (01:59:56):
See I ain't come on the other side of the house.

Speaker 3 (01:59:58):
All that pissed me off. I knew I had. If
you see that white thing out there, that's a bag
of corn.

Speaker 5 (02:00:05):
Out there, I was hoping it was gonna go to Yeah,
I was.

Speaker 7 (02:00:10):
Gonna say, what is what is this light? Is this
a flood light or is this I r exactly a floodlight?

Speaker 5 (02:00:17):
And they still come around that bloodlight last. I mean
that blood light on the porch.

Speaker 7 (02:00:25):
So it's it's like on the the camper that we're
looking out of.

Speaker 5 (02:00:31):
No, that that's this trail. That's a double trailer that's
looking out of. That's out of the back bedroom window
facing toward a woodline right here they were crossing through.
Here's two blocks here between us between this trailer, that
one out front there, it's one block, and then off
to the side over here on the side of our.

Speaker 3 (02:00:53):
House, it's that other block.

Speaker 5 (02:00:54):
Word than f woard that family group was okay, so
that's two different blocks. But there's this tree line right
there between both these box of woods that they.

Speaker 3 (02:01:03):
Were traveling back and forth to the yard to get across.

Speaker 5 (02:01:07):
That's actually the same woodline, fustin that video where they
crossed across the yard.

Speaker 7 (02:01:12):
That there he went off right and the cat even
turns and looks at it. Yeah, it doesn't seem too
bothered by them.

Speaker 3 (02:01:18):
But no, but that cat got.

Speaker 5 (02:01:20):
Gets off, runs back up the porch or run under
the porch, whichever won. But uh, that's another that's just
another video. I missed him, literally missed him, cause I
just knew I was going to catch him. Come around
that one corner right there, and that sucker come around
the other side. And this is just a lot of
videos like that.

Speaker 7 (02:01:41):
Dude, this is just I mean honestly scary looking at
You know, you're living right here and that woods is
so thick and it's right outside your door. Yeah yeah,
I mean, I no wonder you've got stuff going on
all the time. I mean, it's not like you got
a big open area or anything. It's it's right there.

Speaker 5 (02:02:01):
It's right there. It's in your face, guy, Yeah, I
mean it's in your faith morning.

Speaker 3 (02:02:05):
I kid you not.

Speaker 5 (02:02:07):
My woods are really thick. I mean it's dending out
now because you know, you got winter coming in and
the leaves are starting to come down. But even then,
even during full winter, you still got leaves everywhere, you know,
up in these trees.

Speaker 3 (02:02:24):
Still.

Speaker 5 (02:02:24):
Yeah, it ain't like up north, you know, you got
all the leave down that still gets. It's still thick
out here in winter times, you know, you just see
a little better, but it's still thick.

Speaker 7 (02:02:37):
Blue Eyed Northern Oregon says, I put my audio recorder
in the headlamp of that car. Yep, ye, Well that's
that's interesting. Have you ever tried to put like where
you have your floodlights. Have you tried to put a
camera like directly under it or behind it or something
so that it's kind of masked.

Speaker 5 (02:02:55):
No, I just tried to keep it hidden, you know, because,
believe it or not, here's a wonder right here. That
camera was over here, cocked off to the side, you know,
where you couldn't actually sit through the window, you know,
so cocked off to the side.

Speaker 3 (02:03:10):
So sometime before I put that camera on, it had.

Speaker 5 (02:03:16):
To you know, probably in that woodline right there, looking
right there in that toward that one in that window
where you know, I got everything set up and it knew.

Speaker 3 (02:03:26):
To come around the other side. Yeah, I mean they're
smart creaters.

Speaker 5 (02:03:31):
They really are. They are smart creatures. I mean, if
it was a dumb animal, say like a gorilla, everybody know,
if we'd have it in the zoo. Right now, This
is not no dumb eight I'm telling you that right now.
And I never said down on my mouth before. I've
never said that, but I honestly.

Speaker 3 (02:03:53):
Believe that now I do. This is no dumb ape
out here that we're dealing with.

Speaker 7 (02:03:58):
Absolutely all right. Well, unfortunately there's no more questions that
have popped up a lot of a great show. I
love you guys, great show, great guest from Wendell again,
thanks for sharing from Billy.

Speaker 5 (02:04:14):
That's a good dude right there with Billy and Wendell.

Speaker 3 (02:04:18):
They both good. But Patrick, he's a nutcase.

Speaker 7 (02:04:26):
Is there is there any other piece that we didn't
get to, any audio clip that you wanted to share
before we wrap things up?

Speaker 5 (02:04:32):
Well?

Speaker 8 (02:04:32):
Uh you uh, well it's actually a video, but you
know you hear a matter of back Stacey had we're talking.

Speaker 5 (02:04:40):
About last night on podcast about UFOs and big Foot.

Speaker 3 (02:04:44):
Is there a connection? Ye?

Speaker 5 (02:04:46):
I can't say there is, but I have seen a
UFO looking thing out here actually themmed it you trying
to catch a big foot? It says image fourteenth twenty eight.
On there, it's actually a video of something going across
the sky that ain't a plane. Yeah, it's in the

(02:05:08):
video section, it says, I AMG fourteen twenty eight.

Speaker 3 (02:05:11):
Yeah, this is it.

Speaker 5 (02:05:12):
I mean, I zoom in on it.

Speaker 3 (02:05:14):
You'll see it.

Speaker 5 (02:05:15):
You know, you'll say it come in behind that tree
right there and whatever that is. I have no idea,
but there it is right there. It looked like it's yeah, Bennet, huh,

(02:05:35):
Now you could go slow. But I mean I first
thought it might have been a drone.

Speaker 7 (02:05:41):
Yeah that's what that's too.

Speaker 5 (02:05:42):
That was too high up and there to be a
drawn though. Yeah, but is that a connection.

Speaker 3 (02:05:50):
I don't know. I don't believe so, but it's there.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 7 (02:05:54):
It's the absolutely.

Speaker 3 (02:05:55):
I mean, we do that.

Speaker 7 (02:05:57):
You don't rule it out. You just said I saw
and I appreciate.

Speaker 5 (02:06:00):
That, right.

Speaker 3 (02:06:01):
See.

Speaker 5 (02:06:01):
I won't even rule out paranormal stuff with these critters. Uh.
You know, you hear people saying they've had their names called,
We've had our names called.

Speaker 7 (02:06:11):
Uh speaking of that, you had a that reminds me
you have a video here that is a looks say,
a trail camera video of something that's kind of not
there and disappears.

Speaker 6 (02:06:23):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:06:24):
Uh, it's a when a group was here. You will
see a misfigure go by right there, cloak to the
end of the video, right up in there, you will
see a miss figure go through there. Now, some people
think as they might be a cloak something. I think
it's just a misfigure because I got more video on this.

Speaker 9 (02:06:48):
Now.

Speaker 5 (02:06:48):
This was caught from a group squat seeker to the south.

Speaker 3 (02:06:52):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (02:06:52):
They've actually caught them a while here. They were the
first one to actually catch orbs out here. I ain't
never seen orb till they actually called it out here.
They actually filmed it out here. We called it the
same night that we've got that thermal. Uh, we've called audio.

Speaker 6 (02:07:09):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:07:09):
And those orbs and whatever that is crossing by the
dang camera.

Speaker 7 (02:07:15):
Okay, so it's gonna be towards the end of the film.
This is nine seconds and it's gonna be right here
in the video.

Speaker 3 (02:07:31):
Right there. Everyone I mean.

Speaker 7 (02:07:35):
In the turns kind of Yeah.

Speaker 5 (02:07:37):
There's actually another video where it goes yo across. This
one goes from back to front. I got to know them.
It goes from right to left.

Speaker 3 (02:07:48):
Same figure, is that one.

Speaker 7 (02:07:52):
I don't see that one.

Speaker 5 (02:07:53):
It's not on there now, it's not on there. I
got that one put up because see the squat figure
of faustist one who actually caught it.

Speaker 3 (02:08:01):
Yah.

Speaker 5 (02:08:02):
And I don't try to use nobody else, no other
research or stuff, but yo, I could that that was
just part of the you know, UFO paranormal bigfoot yo,
just to try to maybe answer a question.

Speaker 3 (02:08:20):
I mean that I've even got audio.

Speaker 5 (02:08:24):
You could actually hear it. Walk up to my to
my backside of my house, and it says you will
kill me, and that kind of freaked me out. I
actually at first I thought it was saying little Kenny,
but actual he's saying you will kill me. And then
the next month, the very next month, instead of a

(02:08:48):
male male witched voice saying you will kill me, then
I get a female voice saying that exact same words,
you'll kill me, just as about as crazy as you
can get it.

Speaker 6 (02:09:07):
M m m m mmm mm hmm.

Speaker 3 (02:09:17):
There's the first one.

Speaker 5 (02:09:20):
Mhm, I mean you get you'll kill me crazy, mm
hmm hmmm. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:09:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (02:09:32):
So then the second one is the female you said, the.

Speaker 3 (02:09:34):
Second one is the female, and she said it faster,
you'll kill me. Mm hmm hmmm, right there, m m hmmm.

Speaker 5 (02:10:02):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 7 (02:10:06):
So obviously this is all after the incident with the
brown one.

Speaker 3 (02:10:10):
Yeah, yeah, and then uh, just this year them too
are just this year.

Speaker 7 (02:10:18):
You said there was a third I thought there was
a third one, right, No, no.

Speaker 3 (02:10:23):
They're going two of them.

Speaker 5 (02:10:24):
You will kill me. But that was just this year
January and February of this year where I caught that.

Speaker 7 (02:10:30):
Wow, So were those were you outsight at the time?

Speaker 5 (02:10:34):
Or we don't venture too much outside at night unless
we got people here, yo. Uh. Now, ever since we
first started seeing these critters, my mom, other than one
time when I brought her over when I had some
uh researchers here.

Speaker 3 (02:10:54):
She came out and we sat.

Speaker 5 (02:10:56):
Around the fire, and I wanted to make sure that
these guys filmed, you know, not her, but filmed as
she was telling her stories, yo, what she's seeing, what
she's heard out here, you know, documenting her stories or
she's getting up in aid, you know.

Speaker 3 (02:11:13):
And I really wanted that documented, and so we did.
We got that dog.

Speaker 5 (02:11:18):
But other than that one time, since we first know
it started seeing these creators. My mom ain't never stepped
outside it when when it gets dark. Not the first time,
not the first ever since that day, not the first time.
She will come outside at downtown and it's said, Yeah,
it's said.

Speaker 7 (02:11:39):
Now are you were you guys like big old doorsmen
or something you know before this that you Yeah, yeah,
I was.

Speaker 5 (02:11:46):
Me and my son we hunt all the time, you know,
we dogs hunt. We you know still hut my son's
not still hunter, but I was. But I love dog
hunt too. Uh. Fishermen all time on the water, I do.
I'll go fishing all the time here. Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:12:03):
But you know, I just will not walk in these
woods at night time.

Speaker 5 (02:12:07):
I'm not there yet, you know what I'm saying. Uh,
even if it was daytime, I still have issues going
in these woods.

Speaker 6 (02:12:16):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:12:17):
I ain't got past that yet.

Speaker 5 (02:12:20):
And uh it's a stigma that I want to get past,
but I can't pass it yet. I don't know why
I just cannot. I can go all the way in there,
down the little path there, but once I get a
certain distance, it's like something just stopped me in my
tracks and I got back out.

Speaker 6 (02:12:40):
You know.

Speaker 5 (02:12:40):
It's it's a stigma, But I get past it one
of these days. But it ain't right now.

Speaker 7 (02:12:45):
I don't blame you. I mean, like looking at that
photo or the video with the car and stuff and
having just thick, thick woods there, it's not even like that.
You can see deep into it and you know you
got that little bit of a safety there, you know,
But I mean, it's it's just thick.

Speaker 5 (02:12:59):
It's a that's sick.

Speaker 7 (02:13:03):
One last question here, So do you allow researchers on
your property?

Speaker 3 (02:13:07):
Now?

Speaker 5 (02:13:07):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (02:13:08):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now let me say this. I will
say this. I've done this now for five.

Speaker 5 (02:13:17):
Years, bringing researchers out here, okay, and they've been a
bunch of people out here okay. But it's getting to
to where I'm at the end of it now, you
know where I only bring.

Speaker 3 (02:13:31):
A couple of people out here because I.

Speaker 5 (02:13:35):
Don't do it for, you know, trying to prove that
they're out here. I don't care what people say. These
people asked me nicely. I mean they asked me a
while back. It ain't like it just started yesterday or
this year. But I allowed them to bring whoever they

(02:13:56):
wanted out here. Yeah, And there was a couple like
Chris Bryan, you know, he was a one that I
invited out here, you know, Patrick Noble, he was one
I invited out here.

Speaker 3 (02:14:07):
You know that was that you were their first time
ever being out here.

Speaker 5 (02:14:12):
But outside that, Yo, I'm at the end now, you know,
worth just too much on me, you know, doing these things,
you know, because I'm out there with them. But and
it gets hectic sometimes. I mean the food's great mostly
Miss Patsica can do that. If you ever want somebody

(02:14:33):
at your house, you're a you're a camp out or whatever.

Speaker 3 (02:14:37):
You gotta have Miss pat there. Oh my god. But yeah,
I mean I'm there at the end, you know, of
bringing people out.

Speaker 5 (02:14:46):
I mean, I want to bring out a few people,
you know, but it ain't it ain't nothing gonna be
nothing like I usually do know anymore, you know, cause
it gets hard. You know.

Speaker 3 (02:14:58):
Just this year, it was like eight weeks in a
row that I had somebody over. That get hard.

Speaker 5 (02:15:07):
Yeah, that gets hard. So there's only coming down to
one or two groups a year.

Speaker 7 (02:15:14):
Yeah, Blackie says, we love these Southern goodbye shows. Flat
Rock has so much to share. Well we're out of time.
Well we're out of time. Yep.

Speaker 5 (02:15:29):
The one who called me yo even gave it to yo.

Speaker 7 (02:15:36):
Yeah, absolutely very cool.

Speaker 3 (02:15:38):
Man.

Speaker 7 (02:15:39):
Well, I, like I said, I can't thank you enough
for coming on and sharing. I know Lay said you
don't do it very often in that so I really
appreciate you coming on my show and sharing it with
everyone and taking the time to answer the questions and
sharing all the evidence and that with me and all
the viewers and listeners and stuff here. So again, if
you guys did not, if you're just listening to an
audio platform, there is a YouTube version of the show

(02:16:01):
where you can see and you know, see all the
pictures and stuff as well. If you're not aware of that,
if you're just an audio uh an audio podcast listener,
make sure you go check that out. But I think
we're gonna wrap things up here. Man, I have kept
you an additional hour and sixteen minutes, and I I
appreciate man. I think it's you. You have an amazing property,

(02:16:22):
You have an amazing amount of evidence and stuff, and
just I am I want to say that I hope
that you stay safe out there because as much as
these things, you know, kind of keep their own distance
and everything, just just be safe because all it takes
is one one misstep or something and miscommunication with one
of these things, and they're they're gonna be problems, and

(02:16:43):
I hope that that never comes to it. But keep up.

Speaker 5 (02:16:46):
You want to picture yourself a trail game, or picture
that sucker rock behind us?

Speaker 1 (02:16:52):
I have it.

Speaker 7 (02:16:53):
I literally have that thing staged right here.

Speaker 3 (02:16:55):
So behind.

Speaker 5 (02:16:59):
Yeah, I made a pastor and the sun and there
he is right.

Speaker 3 (02:17:03):
There behind us. That's no more than twenty feet behind us,
right there, he just right there. Yeah, I mean you
got high his eyes are compared to us.

Speaker 5 (02:17:14):
And that's a down hill grave right there too. And
he's still affir how you.

Speaker 3 (02:17:23):
I used to be five ten but now five eight.

Speaker 7 (02:17:26):
Yeah, I mean still okay, so that's that thingue five
five Okay, we'll say six foot right in here somewhere. Yeah,
I mean you're looking at another two or three feet
maybe up there, so yeah, yeah, that we're live or yeah, yeah,

(02:17:48):
that's just amazing.

Speaker 5 (02:17:50):
That's about twenty feet behind us right there. Yeah, we've
flashed our flashlight. I mean, if you notice the only
picture worst worse. Still got guns don't work, We're still
got rifles flung over our shoulders. That's how scary it
was back then, Yoe or we were toting guns everywhere
we went.

Speaker 7 (02:18:14):
And this is this is twenty nineteen, says the date.

Speaker 3 (02:18:17):
That's the date in the exact time right there.

Speaker 7 (02:18:20):
Sometimes we don't bother to set the dates on trailer.

Speaker 3 (02:18:23):
I had that one set.

Speaker 5 (02:18:25):
I had that one set. But you know, like I said,
I thought that was just us. Who who got that
camera to flash on Joe? I thought just flashing us.
I'm glad it caught that thing back there, I really am.

Speaker 7 (02:18:38):
So would that have been back in the woods or
was he kind of more on the edge of the trailer.

Speaker 10 (02:18:42):
He's right on the edge of the property and this
little road that goes back right here, right right out
my gate, right my fence and goes back out in
the woods, like a little logging trail.

Speaker 5 (02:18:57):
Uh, that goes back into the woods.

Speaker 12 (02:19:00):
But he's standing right down on the corner of where
that where the road is, and where the this block
of woods right here is you know, uh.

Speaker 5 (02:19:10):
Well just on the backside of the house right here.
But yo, he like twenty feet away from us, you
know that the most Yeah, I'd just come off my
porch when uh, when.

Speaker 7 (02:19:22):
That went off, lisays, it looks like a white shadow
between you and him. This is actually what I believe
is lens flare off that off that grass right there,
that's what you're looking at there.

Speaker 5 (02:19:32):
Yep, yep, thank you. That's a ducky what I did, Barbie.

Speaker 7 (02:19:38):
I've looked at a lot of IR and a lot
of true camera pictures. Yeah. Absolutely, that's that's amazing stuff.

Speaker 5 (02:19:47):
Man.

Speaker 7 (02:19:47):
All right, Southern goodbyes, Wisconsin goodbias.

Speaker 3 (02:19:50):
Well I suppose I propose.

Speaker 7 (02:19:56):
It has been. Again, thank you so much for coming on.
I really appreciated it, and thank you for being a
listener of my show and that as well.

Speaker 3 (02:20:03):
So if you have you on my own name me
to come back on Bubba, I'm here.

Speaker 7 (02:20:09):
I think everyone would enjoy that. Keep me in touch.
As far as if you get any new pictures, new
audio or anything that you'd like to come on. I'd
love to have you back. I mean absolutely fabulous. Just
shoot me a message if you get any cool evidence
or something and we can have you come back and
talk about sound awesome.

Speaker 1 (02:20:27):
Man.

Speaker 7 (02:20:27):
Well, thank you so much. You take care be safe
out there.

Speaker 3 (02:20:30):
Okay, Well do.

Speaker 7 (02:20:35):
I'm sorry, got you all? Take care all right, guys.
That is our show for today. Well, that our special
two hour, twenty minute episode here. I hope that you
guys really appreciate. I hope you enjoyed it. We had
a ton of people watching today. It just goes to

(02:20:56):
show how much the evidence and stuff on Flat Rocks
property and just the stories and stuff are amazing. So
absolutely great guests. Thank you guys all for being instrumental
on having him on here and getting to him to
agree to come and share everything with us today. I've
absolutely had a blessed talking with him and sharing all
the stories and stuff and there's you guys won't believe

(02:21:18):
the amount of audio and video and stuff in that
folders and stuff that he shared with us that we
still didn't get through. There's so much stuff and evidence
of howls and vocals and stuff in there. So definitely
worth having another chat with him. So I will definitely
be willing to have him back if we get some
new evidence or anything and down the road. So awesome guys.

(02:21:40):
Remember if you're just tuning in today for the first time,
I'm on every Monday for Untold Radio Monsters on the Edge.
I also am Cryptid's Anomalies and the Paranormal Society. You
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(02:22:01):
with Bigfoot, paranormal, UFOs, you name it, with my team.
So thank you guys all for tuning in. Remember to like, subscribe,
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Go check out flat rock Wood Boogers on Facebook. That
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(02:22:22):
sure he'd be happy to have a chat with you
as well. So thank you guys so much. I can't
thank you enough. And with that being said, guys, you
guys have a very happy New Year and stay safe,
be safe out in the woods or whatever you choose
to do this holiday. I will be not live on
New Year's Day on my other show that is pre recorded,

(02:22:44):
but I will be back live with you next week
here on Monday. Until then, guys, I'll see you on
the edge

Speaker 6 (02:23:14):
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