Paranormal Spectrum #65 Spiritual Insights with Guest Alex Gaska

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Good morning everybody, and welcome to the Paranormal Spectrum here
on the Untold Radio Network. I am your host, Barnaby
Jones from Cryptid's Anomalies and the Paranormal Society. We have
a great guest lined up on today's show. It's gonna
be an awesome show. Looking forward to this. But first, guys,
coming up, if you want to meet myself and my

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team in person, we are going to be at UFO
Days this coming Saturday in Elmwood, Wisconsin on July twenty sixth.
It is a big three day event. Let's take a
look at this. So they have all kinds of stuff
going on starting today on Thursday, they have a kids
community event. They have stuff coming up on Friday with food, trucks,

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ugly truck contest, UFO Medallion hunt, inflatables, all kinds of stuff.
And then Saturday is the fun run with the looks
like classic car Show. There's going to be vendors as well.
Downtown and I will be speaking along with the Infinite
Rabbit Hole will be speaking on UFOs and Elmwood and

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Darkwood's Paranormal will be speaking as well. They are doing
some other awesome events with Mars Attacks movie to wrap
things up there, and then the event continues on Sunday
as well. So this is Elmwood, Wisconsin. If you guys
are in the area, come out, say hi and check
out an awesome event. Then, guys, coming up in September,

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I'm going to be at Silicon in Gays, Illinois for
their convention. Down there, we will have the Heightened Adventure
exhibit on display for all of you interested in that.
It is September nineteenth and twentieth. And then we had
two Van Meter Visitor Festival in Van Meter, Iowa on
September twenty seventh, and we will be at the Nina

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Public Library for presentation on investigating and Exploring the paranormal,
followed by an actual paranormal investigation that you can join
of the Nina Public Library. It's gonna be a lot
of fun next year, guys. We had to Cape Gerardo,
Missouri for Cape Con cap Con Missouri April seventeenth and nineteenth,

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and cap Con Wisconsin May eighth through the tenth in Fonolac, Wisconsin.
So a lot of cool stuff coming up. With that
being said, today's show is live, so if you have
any questions or comments throughout the show, throw them in
the comments section and we will get to them as
soon as possible. Good morning, Lee, welcome.

Speaker 7 (05:30):
To the show.

Speaker 6 (05:31):
All right, guys, let us get to our guest today.
All right, my guest is Alex Gasca. She is a

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professional psychic medium, a paranormal investigator, a demonologist, artist, and more.
Alex helps people connect to their departed loved ones, rid
evil out of their people and their homes, and enlighten people.
And today she is here to enlighten all of us
on the paranormal spectrum. Please welcome Alex to the show. Alex,

(06:15):
thanks for being here.

Speaker 7 (06:16):
Hello, thank you for having me.

Speaker 6 (06:19):
Oh it's my pleasure. Thanks for coming. Cape Gun Lisa
is cape con. Should I wear a cape? Yes, you
should definitely wear a cape to the evently, thank you.
Lee has a wonderful drinking game during my show where
whenever I mess things up, she calls me out on it.
So there we go. Thank Oh, yes, yes, yes's a

(06:44):
lot of fun. She's from right here in Wisconsin. We
know we're in hangout with her at a lot of
events as well, So Lee's always fun to be in
the audience here. So let's uh, I want to start
a little bit a backstory here, because I'm always interested
when we have mediums and stuff of a couple things.
And first of all, how did you first know that

(07:04):
you had these abilities? How did they first manifest? And
what was your initial reaction to all of that?

Speaker 7 (07:11):
So I grew up one in a very haunted, haunted house.
And then on top of it, I want to say
I was around four or five years old actually, and
I the one specific time, you know, my parents were
sharing a car at the time, my dad, me and
my brother. We had to go pick up my mom

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from work at night, and on our way back we
would pass by the cemetery. And I remember at night,
while we were like on our way home, I was
watching a man like hunts Over with his cane or whatever,
crossing the street and he wasn't paying attention and I
was like, Dad, you're going to hit that man in
the street. And my parents were getting so mad at me.

(07:53):
They're like, you know, don't pretend like that you're scaring us.
We don't want to be hitting people. And I'm like,
do they are they blind?

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Like?

Speaker 7 (07:59):
Are they not what I was seeing?

Speaker 2 (08:01):
You know?

Speaker 7 (08:03):
But to just kind of put the cherry on top
of everything growing up in the haunted house. It ended
up having a failed exorcism, and so the experiences I
was having it was really targeting me until it wasn't
really and then the family kind of caught on the things.

(08:24):
So that's kind of how I found out I had
my abilities. It wasn't really like the sweetest opening to
it or anything, but yeah, so it was more of
a like catapult into.

Speaker 6 (08:38):
You know, it's kind of a I'm sorry I brought
it up kind of story right there.

Speaker 7 (08:43):
Oh no, I'm not sorry for any of it.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
You know.

Speaker 7 (08:46):
It really it helped me find my path truly, you know,
and helped me figure out I always knew I wanted
to help people. I knew I was different, I just
didn't know how. So all of that kind of just
put it into perspective and I was like, oh, okay,
this makes sense, you.

Speaker 6 (09:04):
Know, interesting, that's really cool. Sort of, So it's really
cool for people like that are interested in the topic,
you know, but you know, if you're having to live
through it, you know, that's that's terrible. I mean, like
to put somebody like you obviously have you know, abilities
and gifts and stuff, so you kind of like you said,

(09:25):
grew up and wanted to help people and stuff. But
there's a lot of people that you know come to
my team, and I'm sure you as well. You know,
if you go out and help people that have these
very same experiences and don't want them. You know, they're
seeing things in their house, they're having these experiences and
it's not something that they know how to deal with

(09:45):
or handle, and they just want it gone. So okay,
I'm sure that you've you've kind of dealt with these
situations as well, Like how do you what advice do
you have? What do you tell people that you have
these situations?

Speaker 7 (10:02):
Depending on if they come to me looking for advice solution,
It's kind of depending case by case how I go
about it. But people who are just like you know,
I just want to shut it down, and I just
I don't I don't care to tap into my abilities.
I will simply tell them I could help them do
a cleansing or instruct them. But putting your foot down

(10:24):
having boundaries. A lot of times people don't realize that
these energies are people that have passed away. A lot
of times, if it's demonical phenomena, that's it's becoming more
more frequent, but it is still more rare, you know,
but it's people that have passed away. It just boils

(10:48):
down to energy that you know, energy cannot be created
or destroyed. It can only be changed. And a lot
of times it, you know, goes aren't subject to exorcism either.
So my best advice is like put you know, kind
of use your use your voice. You kind of have
to put your foot down. Have these boundaries. You know,

(11:09):
if something's in your home and you don't want it
to be you need to tell it to like with
all due respect to get that, you know, like you
got to tell it like, you know, this is my home.
You are not welcome in here. You do not have permission.
So doing that and regularly cleansing is actually more useful
than not.

Speaker 6 (11:29):
Interesting. When you when you have these cases and stuff,
a lot of times we find people that don't believe
in this. For one, they don't they they're not religious,
they don't believe in any of that stuff. And number two,
they don't they don't believe in paranormal they don't want
to believe in it and stuff. So do you get

(11:49):
a lot of pushback of people saying like well, how
do I tell it to go when I don't believe
that it's actually here? Does that make sense?

Speaker 7 (11:57):
Sometimes? Because there are people that don't, And the way
I put it to them is, listen, you're having these
experiences and I'm not here. And I'll never push beliefs
on anybody, but I what I simply say is there
are things that exist outside of our belief system, whether
we believe in it or not. Something's going on right.

(12:19):
So it's like, what, regardless of our belief systems, these
things are going to exist. We know a million dollars
is real. Have you ever seen a million dollars? I
sure as he'll happen, you know what I mean. So
it's like, but we know that's real, we know it's there.
Many of us aren't going to see a million dollars
in our lifetime though, So it's kind of just something
like that. It's you know, if a plane crash is

(12:41):
halfway around the world and I'm not watching the news,
has it really happened yet where I'm at from my standpoint,
you know, like things are happening whether we see it,
whether we know about it. So if you're having issues
in your home but you're refusing to believe it that
resistance can be keying it there in its own.

Speaker 6 (13:03):
Absolutely. Well, yeah, I do want to back up a
little bit here because you kind of touched on this,
But my second question was going to be, you know,
every every medium, every psychic and stuff that you know,
I've had on stuff, They're all a little bit different
and they all kind of tend to connect with spirit
and the other side in different ways. Now, you kind

(13:25):
of mentioned that you were you were seeing spirits like
the one crossing the road and stuff, But how how
do you connect Do you physically see the entities? Do
you only hear them? Do you get like pictures?

Speaker 7 (13:36):
How?

Speaker 6 (13:36):
How does it work for you?

Speaker 7 (13:38):
So I will kind of connect with them on all
the different aspects and depending on this, I kind of
liked tap it, and I do believe that all mediums
happen to all the clarabilities, though depending on what spirit
they're communicating with is going to depend on how that spirit,
you know, are they using this clarability. I am mostly clairvoyant,

(13:58):
but I can hear, I can see them, I can
just sense them, so you know, it's kind of it
just is depending on the spirit really, and I do
believe that mediums might gravitate towards one or the other.
I really leave it very open to however the spirit
is going to use communication with me. I try to

(14:22):
be very conscious of my body. Our bodies are like
natural pendulums. We just have to learn to listen and
tune into that.

Speaker 6 (14:28):
You know, do you find that different spirits let me
let me rephrase this when they're communicating with you. Do
you find that maybe certain ones can't communicate certain ways.

Speaker 7 (14:42):
Yes, I do, And a lot of times. The thing
is because when we pass away, we lose This is
a three dimensional Our body is three dimensional. This is
our shell. When we passed away, we don't have vocal
cords anymore. We have to relearn communication entirely. And that
comes down to electricity because we're electrical beings. Right when

(15:03):
we are about to die, they're using our heart paddles
to try and you know, we need electro lights to
fuel our hearts and brains. We use electro you know,
electrical neurological transmissions and stuff like that to like you know,
so it's it's really depending on how long that spirit's

(15:26):
kind of been around to relearn communication. You know, are
they to the point where they know how to use
the electricity and flicker the lights and siphon energy that way,
are they you know, they might know how to leave
certain symbols. You know, they might know how to dial
and tune into a radio or a TV or so.

(15:47):
It kind of, you know, kind of just depends on
like how long they how long they've really had to
And I do notice that like if they were more
spiritual while they were physically here and they've done more
of that inner world, I do find that they catch
on a little quicker after that transition between life and death.

Speaker 6 (16:06):
Interesting, now we've opened up a whole whole thing here.
I have to make notes because all right, so with
that being said, we have noticed and I want to
get your take on this too, that locations that if
we get called to somebody's house and we bring a
lot of paranormal equipment, we don't tend to get a

(16:28):
lot of interaction. But when we go to a location
like we run tours at where the spirits are familiar
with all the equipment, how it works. I mean, it's
it's very night and day difference where everything you'll have
the same equipment or different equipment going off at different
locations because they're more used to it. So this kind

(16:48):
of goes back to what you're saying is you know
they have to learn these things. Have you found very
similar with like I know, obviously a medium, but do
you use other things like rampods or other things when
you investigation?

Speaker 7 (17:00):
I do because it kind of it's kind of cool
as a medium to see the communication other than just
your your senses, and it kind of validates what you
pick up on as well. So yeah, a lot of
times there's been times where I've had to call a
rumpod an antenna thing because they are looking at it
as an antenna. They might be they don't know what

(17:22):
a rumpod is. You know, they're looking at the thing
that flashes lights and has an antenna in the air,
you know. So yeah, yeah, really like talking to them
like people. I think a lot of times people go
into it and just are like talking to them like
they're like a completely different breed or something, you know
what I mean, And it's just like we're just people.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
You know.

Speaker 7 (17:44):
You can go in there and just explain it to them,
and you know, it's just also like some people are
more talkative than others, So some spirits might not be
so chatty and warm and welcoming as others.

Speaker 6 (17:58):
That is an excellent point, and I'm glad that you
brought that up with the whole you know, I've seen
so many times people come into investigations on our tours
or you know, different locations and they're like, can you
make the rempod light up? You are talking to someone
that has maybe passed away eighteen hundred, seventeen hundreds, you know,
nineties whatever, and if they're not interested in the paranormal,

(18:19):
they have no idea what a rempod is. You didn't
have paranormal television shows back then, you know, and you're
you're talking to these spirits like they've been ghost hunting
their whole lives literally, you know, go there, go demonstrate
what it is that you want to walk up to
the device with the antenna, the red and black round
device on the floor or you know, use colors, use

(18:41):
you know antenna like you said, and and get those
interactions because you know, it's no offense to the spirits,
but they have no idea what you're talking about. You know,
make make the rempod light up. I don't know what
a rempod is, you know, I mean.

Speaker 7 (18:55):
If we be, there's people that don't even know, Like,
people don't even know what we're doing. If you don't like,
there are people are like, what is that device?

Speaker 2 (19:02):
What is that?

Speaker 6 (19:02):
Like?

Speaker 7 (19:03):
Nobody knows anything until they're told. So it's just, yeah,
you're teaching the spirits how to communicate with you and
how you need them to communicate.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
Absolutely, And I found so many times that you know,
people watch the shows on TV. And again, no disrespect
to anybody out there, but every single paranormal investigtor I
guarantee probably has an EMF meter or a K two meter, right,
And I guarantee you probably at least fifty percent of them,
if not more, have no idea what that is and

(19:35):
why you use it, what the actual paranormal connection to
the EMF meter is.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
You know.

Speaker 6 (19:41):
I do a whole presentation on rampods and EMFs and
how they work and why we use them and all
that stuff.

Speaker 7 (19:47):
So, yeah, which I think that is needed and beneficial
more so than that because I don't yeah, I and
which I may not even know the exact with the EMF,
but I'm pretty sure that is for close range, is
it not.

Speaker 6 (20:04):
It's an electrical impulse, So you know with as you said,
with you know, in our bodies and stuff, we have
the electricity and stuff flowing through our bodies, and the
general thought is is that after we pass away, that
energy becomes the soul, so you're able to manipulate the
electromagnetic field and pass through devices such as that. We
also more tend to use it for finding bad wiring

(20:29):
and stuff in houses that is putting out the electromagnetic
field and causing things like hallucinations, depression, anxiety, paranoia, because
all that stuff when you have it right next to
your headboard on your bed, like those big digital alarm clocks,
your cell phone chargers, they're really high in EMF. So
when people are saying, oh, I see this shadow entity

(20:50):
at the foot of my bed and you have all
this stuff up on your headboard, well this is why
you're seeing that every single night. There could be paranormal activity,
but yeah, it's probably amplified by all the crap that's
being bombarded into your head as well.

Speaker 7 (21:06):
So absolutely absolutely. I noticed even like your phones make
them go off, so people will have their phone too
close to them and they're like.

Speaker 6 (21:19):
I've seen so many times where people have their cell
phone laying on the edge of the table or whatever,
and they got the EMF and they're like, look, it's
lighting up. But I'm like, is your phone off? Is
it on airplane mode?

Speaker 2 (21:29):
No?

Speaker 6 (21:30):
Oh, there's your problem?

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (21:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (21:33):
Literally interesting, all right. So, with going back to spirits
annoying how to communicate based on you know, longevity and
learning and stuff like that. There's one specific case of
Harry Houdini and the Harry Houdini was super into the
paranormal and debunking it and the mediums and all these

(21:55):
seances and stuff, and he always said that on the
anniversary of his is or on his birth they or
the anniversary of his death or that he would come
back and make contact if it was possible. And historically
this has not really been the case. So in those cases,
what do you think is stopping the spirits from coming

(22:15):
back and you know, making that contact that they said
they were going to.

Speaker 7 (22:21):
Honestly, who's to say that they haven't. So because there's
so many people that are like, I've never had an
experience my entire life, But then when you go down
to deep questioning, they've had a lot of things happen
that they kind of talked up to something else, but
didn't really get down to the source of it. So

(22:41):
I mean, who's to say he hasn't really have we
missed it? Or you know, does he know how to communicate?
Does he know how to make himself known? So there's
you know, or like another thing too, like even people
having vivid dreams of their loved ones or anything passing away,
they don't realize that's a visitation. So that could be

(23:03):
happening with his friend's family and whatnot, and they're like,
he never came back, you know.

Speaker 6 (23:10):
Interesting. Yeah, that's that's another good point. You know, we
don't we miss the little things, you know that that
happen all around us, like things falling down, a picture
always falling down of a loved one, and you don't
you don't take that as anything more than like a
train going by or something in the vibration and oh
it just happened to fall over.

Speaker 7 (23:27):
Well, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 (23:30):
Interesting. Interesting. So a lot of the times we talked
about how there's all these period clothing people, you know,
the spirits that you see, the apparitions, Gettysburg stuff like that,
but we never see people walking around in like a
Britney Spears T shirt, right, like you don't see ghosts
of this, So do you think that that also has

(23:50):
something to do with needing more time to kind of
learn to manifest, to learn to show themselves.

Speaker 7 (23:59):
I think a lot of times, like if you're seeing
a spirit in period clothing, like from a certain timeframe
or whatnot, I truly actually believe that that spirit may
be earthbound and stuck there or truly show themselves that
way because that is their identifier almost. I mean me

(24:19):
as a meeting I get clients all the time, so
I do see spirits show up in and they will
dress exactly what is unique to them. So if that's
very unique to them and their time frame, I do
believe they are just going to show up that way
or when they felt their best.

Speaker 6 (24:39):
Interesting, I do see how that makes sense. Yeah, And
obviously we do know that, you know, the spirits of
recently deceased come through as well, but you know we
don't necessarily see well, I guess we've heard stories of
like people like seeing recently their their family or whatever
show up in their room like the day that they

(24:59):
die and stuff like that, But I don't know, you
don't seem like haunted locations. I guess I don't know,
it's just interesting.

Speaker 7 (25:08):
Yeah, yeah, you know, and that's something like and I
think that has to do with truly the history of
the place too. And again it's because you're going there,
and you're going there with the intent to connect to
somebody more historic. So the spirits are like you know,
like hand the dog a bone, like they're just you know,

(25:29):
at that point, I excited to talk, I think because
you're like setting the intention to talk to them almost.

Speaker 6 (25:36):
It's it's it's a touchy subject. But I always bring
this up as far as you know, we always point
to things like Gettysburg and like the battlefields and stuff
because of the the tragedies and stuff that have happened there.
And this is where you see a lot of your
apparitions in that. And we don't have the modern stuff
because there hasn't been modern tragedies. And the most modern

(26:00):
tragedy that I would think would leave that kind of
psychic imprint would have been nine to eleven. And the
problem with that is if you've been to New York
or around the trade centers there, there is so much,
so many people, so much noise, electrical, the you know,
all this stuff that if there was spirits or anything there,

(26:22):
you wouldn't be able to investigate see it. You know,
it just kind of gets bowled over.

Speaker 7 (26:29):
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I feel like I
feel like there'd still be a chance to investigate, but
like with all the people, they're probably not. But you know,
if there were ever a chance, well, the with all
the electrical things being an issue, it can also be
an amplifier for spirit as well. It's just so conductor.

(26:53):
But then yeah, you have to know how to really
debunk then and like really yeah.

Speaker 6 (26:57):
Yeah, very very uh nonconducive to bringing emf and rempods
and things like that that we're used to.

Speaker 7 (27:05):
I guess, yeah, yeah, you'd have It would have to
be like going into a place where you know your
your equipment is going to go off. You would have
to really plan your investigation strategically. I think that's when
a psychic medium is a little bit more useful, and
then checking up on history and talking to the historians

(27:27):
and maybe using more of like the spirit boxes or
ovulous more things to try and actually get actually get
more communication than those other things that have to go
off with you know.

Speaker 6 (27:41):
I think I feel like that also would be probably
even more overwhelming than going to like Gettysburg for like
mediums and stuff and just the amount that's there.

Speaker 7 (27:54):
Honestly, Yeah, any place with like an a lot of
death truly, Like I'm I mean going to I went
to the Conjuring House, and I mean back in twenty
twenty one when Jen and Corey owned it and the
land there, and how many people have died from like
the King Philip were and I was seeing spirits with

(28:17):
that older gown on, and I felt sick. I mean
like I was so dizzy. If there were not people
behind me, I passed out going up the stairs. There
were two people behind me, thankfully, but the energy from
that many people passing and that much tragedy, I could
imagine that that site would probably be very similar to that,

(28:39):
where there's a lot of violence and tragedy.

Speaker 6 (28:41):
I mean, do you imagine. Do you find yourself empathic
as well with your abilities?

Speaker 7 (28:50):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (28:51):
Okay? Do you do you have trouble like in large
gatherings like at big concerts or festivals or anything. Do
you get overwhelmed very easy as well?

Speaker 7 (28:59):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (28:59):
I do.

Speaker 7 (29:00):
Actually I find myself to not diagnose claustrophobic, but it
feels extremely claustrophobic and just high emotion. So if I
am going into a group of people, I really have
to kind of prepare myself mentally, spiritually, emotionally, and then

(29:20):
I'm fine. But getting to that point, you know, it's
almost like, yeah, it's training a muscle almost.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
Yeah, I've never really thought about that before. With my
other mediums and stuff, I'm gonna have to start asking
that as well, because it would make sense if you're
going into a paranormal location where there's Gettysburg, for example,
where there's all this death and spirits there, you'd be
overwhelmed by that. So there's no reason to think that
when you're in a large group of living people that
the energy and stuff would be just as overwhelming.

Speaker 7 (29:49):
So absolutely, because you never know who's fitting next to you.
You could be next to a murderer, you could be
next to you never really know. You could be next
to somebody who literally just lost the love of their
life or their child, or and you could be picking
up on a murderer like seeing all his victims right
now like pray, Or you could be picking up on

(30:11):
the mom that's grieving their their poor child and like
just all that emotion and then you're going home with that.
That's like energetic debris that you end up going home
with and like yep, yeah, oh it's very important. You
end up needing to like mentally prepare and then do
something when you walk in the door at home.

Speaker 6 (30:35):
Absolutely, have you you brought it up? Have you uh
have when when you've gone out to locations? Have you
ever gotten like a feeling, a sense or like one
of your spirits guides or anything, say, like you know,
like that guy's a murderer, or you know, like any
kind of sense like off of people like.

Speaker 7 (30:54):
That off of living people or yeah, M I have
before a little bit. Yeah, I want to say I've
got like I I honestly I do get vibes off
of people very easily, especially if I'm in person meeting them.

(31:16):
I know immediately what kind of person that person is.
So I definitely have gotten vibes off of people before,
and I did end up finding out later they were
arrested for some things.

Speaker 6 (31:30):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
I know.

Speaker 6 (31:32):
You know a lot of times medium say they go
out in public and they say, like I have you know,
I get the urge like can I tell you something?
You know, like I'm getting something someone coming through for
you or a message or something, and you know, again,
you don't think that it goes both ways. A lot
of people are like, oh, I wish I had these
abilities and stuff, and I don't know. I don't know.
I think that it's like it can be nice.

Speaker 7 (31:53):
I mean, don't get me wrong. There's definitely been times
where I'm sitting at a restaurant with my mom and
I pick up on our waiter and I end up
I can cry or something. But then there's times where
you go into public and they're like, we need to
get out of here. There's something wrong with that person.
Like it can be Yeah, it's a gift in a curse.
When they tell you that it is true, I enjoy

(32:13):
it because I feel like it's better to have than
to not. But and I help people with it, so
there's not too much negative for me. But like it
is something that like people, I don't think people think about.

Speaker 6 (32:28):
Absolutely, we are live guys here on the show. If
you guys have any questions for us. I see there's
a whole conversation going on with Lee over here, but
that's not pertaining to my show.

Speaker 2 (32:41):
Lee.

Speaker 6 (32:42):
That's all right, Uh, here we go. Lee would like
to know, Uh, do you're yet feeling drained just going
to Walmart? Being an impath.

Speaker 7 (32:51):
It's funny that you say Walmart because you know the
craziest things happen there, and yeah, I do. Walmart is like, honestly,
if there was a specific store I don't like going to,
it is Walmart because the walks of life you get
at Walmart, and man, do you pick up on all
of it? And yeah, because of how packed it is,

(33:12):
really packed places like that. Absolutely, there's times where I
have walked in and said, I we got to come
back because I feel like I'm gonna have an And
then there's other days where I'm like cool as a
cucumber and I'm very ground. I think it depends on
how ground it I am that day and how much
time I've really had to do that.

Speaker 6 (33:33):
But yeah, we were just talking about this myself and
my mom and one of our mediums on my team
the other day. Is Walmart in the morning For anybody
that doesn't know, the first couple hours they're open are
like sensory special hours, so there's no music over the
PA system. All of the electronics, TVs are on silent.

(33:55):
That's utterly quiet. In there. It is the best time
of day to go to Walmart. I'm not sure the hours.
I think it ends in like nine am or something.
It's it's right away when they open, from like six
to nine or something in the morning. And my mom
was was telling Ellie on my team about the one
day we went in there and I was fine, I
was happy going through shopping and stuff, and all of

(34:17):
a sudden I just got pissed off. And what happened
was it ended and all the music everything came on
and I'm like, oh my god. I didn't realize that,
but every every person around me was just like, get
away from me, I don't want to talk to you,
and just instant change of just everything. But it was.
It was because that sensory time ended and everything just overwhelmed.

(34:41):
And so highly recommend anybody, yourself and anybody else listening
and stuff if you have this kind of issues and
that go right away in the morning because there's not
as many people there. And two they turn off all
the TVs and overhead audio and stuff. It's it's oh, yeah,
good to.

Speaker 7 (35:00):
Oh because that Oh my gosh. I'll never forget the
time Walmart lost power while I was shopping him there,
and I.

Speaker 6 (35:06):
Was like, yeah, I'll leave the cash on the counter
as I walk out. We don't have to no proud,
no awesome, all right. Uh yeah, Lisa's I have intentionally
armored up going into Walmart.

Speaker 7 (35:26):
You know, I think even if you're not a medium,
you might have to, yeah.

Speaker 6 (35:31):
Very much in all aspects, physically armored and mentally. Uh
some days in Walmart, you never know mentally emotionally like yeah, yeah, anyway,
all right, So let's talk a little bit about your
your demonology and stuff.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (35:53):
So I I've recently started thinking about this with everything
being energy and that the thought has come up to me.
We've all probably you've obviously seen Ghostbusters, right, No, I for.

Speaker 7 (36:09):
It so bad. I've not seen that one movie I've
got I know, I live under a rock. I also
come from like Buffalo, New York and don't eat chick
and wings. This is just the type of being I am.
So I've not seen Ghostbusters. I need to. It's on
my list.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
I As as terrible as that is, I forgive you
because there's a lot of things like I used to
own a haunted house attraction and everyone's like, oh man,
you ever see this horror movie. I don't watch horror movies,
you know, I don't watch any of these. And then
like all the paranormal shows that are out, people are like,
do you watch this? I don't watch any TV, you know,
Like I don't. I don't watch any of this stuff.
So I I I'm right there with you. I understand.

(36:51):
I just can't assume that ghost but everybody knows Ghostbusters.
But okay, you know, so my my recent thought is
is in Ghostbusters, they use proton packs that are energized
basically nuclear reactors kind of on their back, and they
shoot these electrical waves at spirits that entrap them and

(37:15):
then they can suck them into a ghost trap and
collect them. That's the premise of the movie. So I'm
curious if this would actually work. And I'm not trying
to trap anybody's grandma or anything, but like with demons
and stuff, if everything is energy, and you know, all

(37:35):
this stuff is on energetic frequencies, wouldn't it be possible
to create something that would actually trap that energy?

Speaker 7 (37:46):
No, okay, not a demoont identity, only because people would
be trying to measure a spiritual a spiritual matter with
science at that point. Okay, science and spirituality. I mean,
while spirituality can explain some things, uh, demonic entities were

(38:10):
never human. I think spirituality and science. I think science
can explain human spirits because we generally use you know,
electricity to communicate, like we're electrical beings in general. But
when it comes to like that, and that's why I
believe that there's not legitimate evidence of angels or demons.

(38:33):
There's only stories and hearsay, but there's actual evidence of
human spirit all over now, So I don't believe that
we could trap and especially demons. There demonic entities. There
is no human that could create There's no human strong

(38:54):
enough to even take on a demon, let alone to
create something that could hold one back. That's why in
any cultural background or any religion, they're calling on that
higher power, whatever it may be. It's call it something
different in every cultural background and every religion, right, but
they all resort to the same thing because the same

(39:17):
thing works.

Speaker 6 (39:20):
Interesting, Very well said, very said.

Speaker 7 (39:23):
All right, so there's a trap at all. I mean,
I guess you could consider just when when you send
the demons to the pit, if you believe that, or
if you send them away. I guess that could be considered.
But I don't believe that there's any spirit trap.

Speaker 6 (39:42):
Okay, well, so so let me let me dig a
little bit deeper into that. If you know, if if
everything is energy, you know, all of our souls, our spirits,
whatever you call them, our energy. If a demon or
is an angel as well, then if you're saying this,
if they're not energy, then what are they?

Speaker 7 (40:06):
While they are energy, but they would be more cosmic beings.
They're more cosmic. They're not from this Earth. Whereas any
science or anything that we've created, we've created science based
off of Earth. These things aren't earthly beings by any means.

Speaker 6 (40:30):
So you don't think that science applies to other beings
that aren't from Earth.

Speaker 7 (40:36):
I don't think that we can measure their phenomena as
well with science when they're not human spirits. No, I
don't believe. I believe we could get more answers, slowly
but surely, but I don't believe that there's any way
to trap an entity with the science we have. I

(40:56):
don't think we could trap an angel with the science
we have. Their power is just far too great, the
things that they know. It's almost like if I could
compare it to like how the government and how much
they really know that we just don't, and how much
power they really have. It's kind of like that the

(41:18):
angels and demons are like the government. Like there's you know,
if there is a way to compare to that, but
that's just that would be just my way to explain it.
I'm sure there's so many better ways to explain it
than that, But I would just say that I don't
think that there's any technology that we could create that

(41:40):
could and if if there were, I think we would
have been there by now. Because we say that we
could cure cancer. We say, I mean there's so many
things that the government knows how to do now. If
there was a way too, I think it would have
been done.

Speaker 6 (41:59):
Maybe it couldn't, but I don't know. I'm pretty up
on tech stuff. And you know, like I said, I
I know like how well Ghostbusters would written Dan Aykroyd
and Harold Ramis, and they were both very into the supernatural,
the paranormal believers and all this stuff. So a lot

(42:20):
of the stuff in Ghostbusters, a lot of the spirits,
the terminology and all that stuff is we'll say accurate
to what we believe, right, So if we believe a
spirit has energy, it has energy. Like that's that's how
they made the movie was based on the information that
we believe. So I've always been curious, you know, like
that if it'd be possible. But even even with all

(42:42):
that said, like I'm not sure that I could figure
out how to do that, you know, like, you know,
I don't know if anything that has trapped electricity, like
it doesn't stay anywhere it flows.

Speaker 7 (42:56):
So right, exactly interesting exactly, So yeah, it's it's a
it's like a mind. It's a mind that twisted almost
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (43:09):
M h.

Speaker 6 (43:10):
Absolutely, all right. We have a question for you here.
Uh Octoman says, what are the biggest steps I can
take to open up and let myself shine? I struggle
with depression forever I have. I've struggled with depression forever.
I feel spiritually oppressed, almost held back. Sorry if that's
a little.

Speaker 7 (43:28):
Heavy, No, that's okay. I always tell people I'm a
safe open space. So I mean, honestly, I feel like
my spirituality has helped me with my mental health my
and what I can say is that spirituality is going
to look different to each person. But I think finding
your own energy and really knowing your own energy and

(43:50):
looking inward, because it could have to like, is it
the people surrounding you? Is it the things that you're
filling your life with, Because a lot of times we're
usually choosing we accept the love we think we deserve,
and we usually surround ourselves with people that reflect on
how we feel about ourselves, and we usually pick the habits.
And it's easier to do the things that are unhealthy

(44:13):
and bad for us than it is to choose what's good.
We're taught that as humans. So I would say, just
taking a deep look in, we're doing some journaling and
like a lot of self care, doing things that matter
to you, not what everyone else would want you to
do or what you think you should be, doing things
that just simply feel good to you, and journaling and

(44:34):
being very conscious.

Speaker 6 (44:39):
He also comes back to say he keeps his fluoride
to a minimum and definitely right about meditating. That's literally
on my list of things to increase.

Speaker 7 (44:51):
Yeah, and you know, meditation, it does help, and it
doesn't need to look like what everyone assumes that just
sitting there humming, if it's painting for you, if it's cleaning,
and listening to music if it's dancing. You know, movement
of the body helps release trauma tremendously. You know, use
your crystals, like while you're doing this stuff like cleans,

(45:13):
like you know, if you're worried about closed practices, but
you could do ancestry, find out what cultural backgrounds is
in your DNA. Use herbs from that cleans. While you're
like painting or or whatever you're doing playing guitar, you'll
find your spirituality. You might get thoughts and downloads that
come in. Just journal them.

Speaker 6 (45:35):
I love this, Lisa, is what really helped her get
over depression. I got kittens. I'm not even kidding.

Speaker 7 (45:42):
I will say animals are the easiest cure, the cure
all probably, so absolutely mind you right here? So awesome
can conferred?

Speaker 6 (45:58):
Yep, kitties are awesome. I have too many things in
my house to knock down, though, to have kiddies.

Speaker 7 (46:03):
So yeah, I hear that. Yeah, my dog acts like
a cat.

Speaker 6 (46:10):
So it's like you know, at work, all right, So
is there anything else anything you want to cover, anything
that we haven't got a chance to talk about anything,
you know, you mentioned you want to talk a little
bit more about demonology, and stuff. Is there anything specifically
you want to make sure people know about it, or advice.

Speaker 2 (46:31):
That you have.

Speaker 7 (46:33):
I think my greatest advice to people is like when
you're watching these paranormal shows, I think that they see
all this happening on TV and they want to go
jump in and think it's going to be all fun
in games, and you can really sometimes bring something home
with you, get yourself into trouble. You could get somebody

(46:54):
really attached to you for no reason. I think it's
just safe to say that if you're considering finding your spirituality,
just try to take a month or two to learn grounding,
discernment practice, cleansing and protection and kind of finding your nap,
kind of finding what you're drawn to. You know, don't Russian.

(47:18):
That would be my biggest thing, is like, don't rush
into it.

Speaker 6 (47:23):
Absolutely. I find a lot of people want to get
started in the paranormal and the first thing they do
is they go and investigate graveyards and cemeteries, and I
just highly, highly do not recommend that. I mean, you
can talk to spirits there, but you can also talk

(47:43):
to spirits at your house or anywhere else. You know,
if there's somebody a loved one that you want to
talk to. They're with you always. And the things that
are specifically going to be hanging out in cemeteries are
the things that are going to follow you home. What
are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 7 (47:58):
Honestly, there's truth behind that. And as a demonology, you
know how people talk about like, oh, when there's a
demon in your home, there's that foul odor and da
da da. These things hate humans. They do hang out
in graveyards underground, watching bodies decay, which is why they
smell like decaying bodies because they hate humans that much.

(48:24):
So it's like you go to a graveyard and you
don't protect yourself. Now, don't get me wrong. Have I
gone to graveyards? Yes, I enter with caution, and you
have to be so respectful of the spirits that are
there and buried there and their family members. You have
to be respectful. But also that is exactly where things
are going to hang out. Pretend to be this, that

(48:44):
or the third, and they will follow you home. It's
just perfect grounds to feed on the spirits that are
actually there. People that come to visit their loved ones,
people that come to investigate, like.

Speaker 6 (48:56):
Yeah, yeah, there's there's a lot of sadness and a
lot of you know, depression and and you know, emotions.
It seems like Walmart, you know, we were talking about that.
People go to cemeteries in you know, they're they're lowest
points for a lot of people. You know, their their
family dies there. You know they're there for that reason.

(49:17):
And all that energy is there, there's a reason things
are they're feeding off of it, and it's not it's
not the spirits and energy that you want to interact with.
If it's something you want to get.

Speaker 7 (49:26):
Going with, negative entities, negative people, spirits that have done
bad things, and negative entities like to hang out in
places where there has been a lot of sadness, a
lot of violence. Hospitals, graveyards, warsites. That's just going to

(49:47):
be places that it. Yeah, you're you're likely to have
something follow you home.

Speaker 6 (49:54):
Yeah, that's that's my biggest thing with people that want
to get involved in it. So we're excuse me, where
do you suggest somebody should start investigating if you want
to go on your first paranormal investigation? Where where do
you send people? Where do you tell them if you
want to get involved in this?

Speaker 7 (50:14):
Honestly, if you feel like you want. Let's say, you know,
you've done a little bit of groaning, cleansing, protecting, and
you're not too worried about that. Look up what's local
around you. You could go somewhere truly, just like it
could be a public park that has some history for
all you know. It could literally, I mean, maybe you
have a house in your family that people have owned

(50:37):
for a long time. Talking to your ancestors like it
could You could really start off just by talking to
your loved ones that have passed away and asking them
to use equipment. It doesn't have to be necessarily going
to a location, but you could literally just find something local.
Do you look at your local history.

Speaker 6 (50:57):
That's that's great advice. Places like that are positively energized.
Like let's say, you know we have this is the
first thing that popped into my mind. But like in
Illinois and stuff, you have like the home of Abraham
Lincoln where he grew up, Like, go there and try
and talk to Lincoln, you know, because here's here's a
location that is attached to that person, that spirit in

(51:18):
a positive way. People like I mean, Lincoln's just you know,
the first name that came. But there's all the all
the houses of famous people and stuff that you're not
famous people, but don't go to. Don't go to celebrities
houses and try and investigate them. But you know all
these you know, historical landmarks, historical markers and stuff where
something positive has happened some you know, a person grew

(51:39):
up there, a person lived there, something was invented there.
You know, talk to talk to the positivity part of
history exactly.

Speaker 7 (51:46):
Don't go looking for something negative. Like it doesn't always
have to be negative, nor do you want it to
be like everyone thinks that's gonna be so fun and
until I'm getting my phone call at like eleven pm
at night, you know.

Speaker 6 (52:02):
Like yes, yep, absolutely. I don't know if this is
legitimate or not, but this is a very interesting comment.
He says, Hey, what about my first paranormal expedition. I'm
planning the Hackamocks Swamp only in the heart of the
Bridgewater Triangle. That is very ambitious for a first location.

Speaker 7 (52:25):
I will say, yeah, I have no clue where that is,
but I like live under my rock in New York
right now. But if you're having an event or doing
an investigation at a very haunted location, which the vibe

(52:46):
I'm getting is very haunted, and I do get like
the sense that there is more negative energy there. I
would bring protection with you and do something before you
leave and when you get home. Yeah, like the vibration.
Put on a funny movie when you get home and
stay up and cleanse.

Speaker 6 (53:06):
And like, yeah, detox from it. Absolutely. Yeah. The Bridgewater
Triangle is in uh not Massachusetts anyway, Bridgewater, and it's
very everything from UFOs ORBS, Aliens, Bigfoot. Uh, It's it's

(53:26):
a very odd location. And the Hackamock Swamp is is
right in the heart of that. So best of luck.
I definitely if you if you do go there and
and this is legit, you you let me know. I
want to know what happens.

Speaker 7 (53:38):
So yeah, right, oh my gosh, report back.

Speaker 6 (53:44):
Report back. Uh and uh lisays I went to I
went to look at a statue in the Wa Pond
Cemetery and something did follow me home. That was way
before I knew about protecting myself.

Speaker 7 (53:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's very common they might make
an emotional connection with you if they feel or if
you're left vulnerable for any reason. You just wanting to
be open to spirituality can just invoke that mhm.

Speaker 6 (54:15):
Same as any investigation that you go on. You know,
make sure that you're healthy for one, that you're not
lowered immune system and stuff like that, and uh, in
a very good mindset because if you're not when you
go into these locations, you're going to have issues as well.

Speaker 7 (54:33):
Yeah, it's like setting the intention if you if you
go somewhere and you're feeling low you're going, it's like
like vibrations attract. Like vibrations, you're going to want to
make sure that your level go into it with a
good energy, a good vibe if you go if you
don't want to go into it, if you're having a
rough day, if you're not feeling good, like if you're second,

(54:54):
if you're physically sick and have a weekended immune system.
Emotions can weaken your immune system, like frequencies and everything
matter with thickness with emotions. If you're feeling scared, that
can weaken your immune system. So definitely making sure your

(55:14):
vibrations are where they should be.

Speaker 6 (55:20):
Absolutely. We are coming up on the end of the
show here, guys. If you have any last minute questions
for my amazing guest here, throw them in the comment
section and we will get to them before we wrap up. Alex,
It's been awesome. This is a terrific conversation. I've really
enjoyed this. Is there anything you got coming up, anything
you'd like to promote, any places that you're gonna be

(55:42):
speaking or stuff, events that you got going on.

Speaker 7 (55:45):
Not too much right now. I'm actually just gonna be
in the process of moving here in a couple of weeks,
so then after within the next few weeks, I'm hoping
to start to get things back up and running. But
for now I'm just here to let people book readings
with me, and I'm hoping to get back with investigations soon.

Speaker 6 (56:05):
Very cool, very cool, And your website is in the
show notes for anybody. It's really cool website, by the way,
very cool graphically and pleasing to look at.

Speaker 2 (56:13):
So I was.

Speaker 6 (56:13):
I was pretty impressed with that checking it out.

Speaker 7 (56:15):
So honestly, my boyfriend Pablo made it and he does
really good with that stuff. And I was very shocked
by it too, because my original website did not look
like that.

Speaker 6 (56:25):
Yeah, I obviously I go to a lot of websites
and links and stuff for the show notes and that,
and it was it was really cool. I was like, well,
this is really interesting. You're a medium, you know. It
was a little bit uh, not fancier, but aesthetically pleasing
than just the plain background and everything. I was like,
that's pretty nice.

Speaker 7 (56:45):
Yeah, I really like it.

Speaker 6 (56:46):
Yeah, so definitely, yeah, check it out. Let her know
what you think, send her a message, tell her about
the website.

Speaker 7 (56:54):
So, you know, definitely, No, I appreciate being on. It
was really a pleasure. And I I'm like a professional
yap or too, so anytime, it.

Speaker 6 (57:04):
Was a blast. I enjoyed our conversation today very much.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
So me too, me too.

Speaker 6 (57:09):
I appreciate the invite absolutely absolutely. All right, well it
doesn't seem like any new questions here, so just uh,
Lisa's good luck with your move.

Speaker 7 (57:18):
Thank you so much. I appreciate that.

Speaker 6 (57:21):
And A Bridgewater Triangle is in Massachusetts. There is a puppy.
You must introduce the puppy on screen. Come on, come, hello,
welcome to the show.

Speaker 7 (57:41):
Pure bread beegle. He he's very sensitive to spirit too.

Speaker 6 (57:46):
Absolutely very cool.

Speaker 7 (57:51):
You have the coffin. He loves attention.

Speaker 6 (57:54):
It is an unsaid rule that if there is a
pet in the background, they must be introduced on camera.
They cannot hide back.

Speaker 7 (58:00):
There, so I love that. That's a good role to have.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
It is.

Speaker 6 (58:07):
Awesome. All right. Well, I appreciate you coming on, and
you are welcome back anytime. If you have anything coming
up or anything you'd like to promote or talk about,
feel free to shoot me a message and we'll have
you back on.

Speaker 7 (58:18):
Yeah, definitely anytime.

Speaker 6 (58:20):
All right, Well, thank you so much for coming on today.
I appreciate it, and I will talk to you later.

Speaker 7 (58:26):
All right, have a good day, Thank you you too.

Speaker 6 (58:30):
All right, guys, that is our show for this week.
Thank you guys all for tuning in and liking, subscribing,
and sharing all things here on the Untold Radio Network
and of course Cryptid's Anomalies and the Paranormal Society. Check
out the show notes and Alex's amazing website. Go check
it out. Let her know how cool it is. And
until next time, guys, remember we're all part of the

(58:52):
paranormal spectrum. Take care, be well and I'll see you
next week.

Speaker 8 (58:57):
You seem to know something I don't. Let's call me
do O King and tell me why. Yes, please, I'm
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