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September 4, 2025 76 mins
Welcome to Paranormal Spectrum, where we illuminate the enigmatic corners of the supernatural world. I'm your host, Barnaby Jones, and today we have a very special guest joining us:

Robert Earl White / Order Of Light /
Assistant Director of Project Horizon.
UFO Crash Experiencer (The Lower Alloways Creek Incident)
UFO Crash Retrieval Programs, Government Cover Ups, Men In Black, Ufologist & Disclosure Advocate.
Host & Creator of the show ~ WE ARE THE DISCLOSURE

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Sto Good morning, everybody, and welcome to this week's episode
of The Paranormal Spectrum. I am your host, Barnaby Jones,
and we are live today on the Untold Radio Network.
We have an awesome guest today lined up. It's going
to be a great show talking about UFOs and disclosure

(03:19):
and all kinds of things of that nature. But first, guys,
if you would like to meet me in person, I
am going to be in Silcon in Gay's, Illinois, September
nineteenth and twentieth. We are going to have the Heightened
Adventure exhibit there on display for all of you interested
in Bigfoot in Upper Michigan. Galvin and Paula Kelly, who

(03:41):
have also been guests on the show, will be there
if you're interested in coming out and hanging out with them,
as well of as a lot of other cryptid paranormal
horror and you know sci fi comic con people will
be there in attendance as well, So come on out.
Today is Friday Day and Saturday, September nineteenth and twentieth

(04:02):
days Illinois and then guys, September twenty seventh, we head
to the Van Meter Visitor Festival in Van Meter, Iowa.
You can head on over to Chad Lewisresearch dot com
forward slash shop. Chad Lewis will be doing a walking
tour that weekend of all the hotspots where the van
Meter visitor had been seen, and there will be speakers

(04:24):
and vendors and all kinds of fun stuff down there.
If you're looking for something spooky. This October, we are
doing the paranormal tours and investigations of bean Snappers Gentlemen's Club.
It is Wisconsin's premier haunted gentlemen's club. It is open
to the public for public and private investigations. Head on
over too Haunted Beansnappers dot com and click on the

(04:46):
spooky side to get all your information. Then, guys, I
will be at the Shanno County Library on October sixteenth,
the Brownsville Public Library October twenty second, and the Nina
Public Library on October twenty fifth. All these events we
will be doing exploring the paranormal presentation followed by actual

(05:09):
paranormal investigations at the library. These events are free for
you to come out and enjoy with us. And I
know for a fact that the Brownsville Public Library and
the Shanno Public Library have told me about some paranormal
activity at both of their locations, so it's going to
be a good time there for the presentations, followed by
an investigation of library. If you're interested, head on over

(05:33):
and then guys, May eighth through the tenth in Fondlac, Wisconsin,
we are at CAPCN Wisconsin in Fondelac. If you want
information on all of these events, head on over to
wisconsincaps dot com, click on the public events tab and
you can find all the information for everything that we
just talked about. All right, guys, With that being said,

(05:55):
we are live today, so if you have any questions
or comments throughout the show, throw them in the comments
section and we'll get them as soon as we can.
But now it's time to introduce our guest. All right, guys, today,

(06:21):
my guest is Robert Earl White. He is a member
of the Order of Light, the assistant director of Project Horizon,
a UFO crash experiencer, and he has been talking about
UFO crash retrieval programs, government cover ups, the Men in Black, uipologist,
and disclosure advocate. He is the host and creator of

(06:42):
the show We Are Disclosure, and today he is here
to share all of that with us on our show.
So please welcome to the show. Robert Earl White, Welcome.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
To Barna b Jones. What's going on? And man, all
of those events, I'm not gonna lie, brother, they sound
awesome right up my alley. You're a busy man. And yeah,
everyone go make sure you check that out. He's doing
some amazing things out there in the Midwest. I'm coming
from the East coast. I'm in New Jersey and as

(07:12):
you mentioned, you know, most of my life I've been
plagued with the paranormal. And a little disclaimer, I know
that within the communities of bigfoot, ghosts, paranormal UFOs, extraterrestrial spirits,
all this stuff, we tend to separate everything. But you
know some crazy guy way back in the day named

(07:34):
Nikola Tesla. He said, if you want to understand everything
in the universe, think in terms of frequency and vibration.
I believe that all of these phenomena can be understood
and are actually closer in common with one another when
you start thinking of terms of vibrations and frequencies. You

(07:55):
know that crazy guy, Nikola Tesla. What an idiot, right,
But yeah, so it's been a journey and for me
briefly a little bit about myself. My name is Robert
Earl White. I have a podcast show called We Are
the Disclosure where I'm collecting skywatchers from all over the world.

(08:17):
Just has someone that lives in Australia and we're presenting
all of their footage going over the experience. What do
you think it is? Have you had other encounters. I've
also done a lot of things within the disclosure community.
I've been to DC. I'm personal friends with many whistleblowers,
and you know, I've heard the conversations and skiffs, and

(08:41):
i know what was said and I know what is
not being told to the public. And I truly believe
that many of us whistleblowers are done dealing with the government.
It's a dead end. Disclosure will never come from the government.
If it did, we wouldn't have a government anymore. Once
people realize how bad the situation has been for many, many,

(09:02):
many years. It just did it happen over night? You know,
projects don't happen over a day or night. Projects are
long lasting. It's a project. There's no end date. So
with that being said, for me briefly, it all started
for me here in South Jersey, and a little country town.
A lot of people think New Jersey. They think, you know,

(09:24):
North Jersey, near New York City and all that. No,
where I live, we don't have cell phone service, no
major highways. We have a nuclear plant which was two
miles away from the house I grew up in. And
the creek behind our house is known as the Lower
Alloways Creek, and the town name was Lower Alloways Creek,

(09:45):
and the creek was directly connected to the nuclear plant.
And behind our house there was an old bridge one
car at a time, wood and iron bridge one car
at a time, and the creek was there, and our
house was over here along with my aunt's house, and
we had a tree line going behind our houses. Long

(10:06):
story short. April twenty first, nineteen ninety one, at ten
eighteen pm, my aunt that lived directly next door, she
was getting ready for bed in the upstairs of her house,
and she went into her bathroom. As she was getting ready,
she looked out her bathroom window and she noticed this long, elongated, thinner,

(10:29):
black triangle object with three blue lights on the corners
of it, hence why we knew it was triangular, and
a plasma ish white light in the center of it
completely silent, hovering maybe two or three telephone poles above
the tree line. As she's watching, excuse me, I had

(10:52):
a cough. As she's watching this thing, she's wondering what
could that be. It was raining the night of the incident.
Cloud coverage was twelve hundred feet obtained by the FAA,
so it was cloud coverage, a light rain, and this
craft was very low, completely silent, just hovering there like

(11:13):
super still. It didn't have like the helicopter leaf effect,
you know, even a drone, even a drone moves a
little bit. No, this thing was like perfectly still. And
it's abnormal to see anything in the air hole that's still.
It's abnormal with wind and a storm happening. So any who,

(11:36):
my aunt she goes to her bedroom, she picks up
the phone and she calls my mother that was next
door watching a baseball game with two of her girlfriends.
At that time. I was upstairs. I was three and
a half years old. I was in bed upstairs. My
bed actually sat against the back of the house and
my bed was underneath the window that will come in
handy later. So my mom hears the phone ringing. That

(11:59):
was all also the back of our house in the kitchen.
She hears the phone ring and she gets off the couch.
She goes to the phone. She picks it up and
it's my aunt Booty, and she's screaming my mom's name.
Best she goes, Beth, Beth, there's something just hovering there
in the backyard. Look what is it? What is it?
And my mom looks and then my mom starts screaming,

(12:19):
Oh my god, what is it?

Speaker 1 (12:21):
What is it?

Speaker 5 (12:22):
At this point, her two girlfriends on the couch being
and my mom is twenty two years old, a single mom.
So just to kind of give you a understanding, my
aunt next door was thirty eight years old. So this
is a thirty eight year old woman and a twenty
two year old single mom, so that this is the

(12:43):
backstory to it. So my mom's friends here the commotion.
They go running across the house at the top of
their lungs, screaming to my mom, what is it? What
is it? Cause my mom's freaking out. They're freaking out.
I heard the commotion and I heard people running, so like,
I stood on top of my bed and I started
looking out and I saw this. But I was three

(13:04):
and a half years old. What could a three and
a half year old comprehend. I saw the whole thing,
but I didn't know what I was looking at. I
watched the whole thing happen, but I didn't have any
reason to be afraid. I was completely flueless. I'm just
starting to figure out the world, just started talking, just
started really to remember things. You know, that pivotal age

(13:26):
from three to four is really when stuff starts going.
And so we're all watching this craft. This all took
place about four to five minutes in total, and it's
just sitting there. Then all of a sudden, as we're
all watching this, a beam of light, a ball of light,

(13:47):
and what I'm about to describe all happened simultaneously. It
all happened at once. It wasn't like a boom boom boom.
It was all of the three things I'm about to
describe all happened all at once. Some sort of ball
of light, beam of light, something came down from above it.

(14:07):
And as that beam of light or ball of light
was hitting that craft that it exploded. There was red
and orange sparks, and then the outskirts of the craft
exploded like you would imagine an aircraft explosion to like,
you know, debris everywhere. It's like a massive firework, right,
massive firework. The angle we were looking at it, that's

(14:31):
the best way describe it. Imagine a big firework and
about the forty five angle you're looking at it. That's
exactly the angle we were looking at this craft. And
so the outskirts exploded, red and orange sparks everywhere, but
there was that white, bright plasma ish light in the

(14:52):
center of it that sucked itself into itself, and the
core whatever was encasing that, the solid chunk around whatever
that plasma ball was, that shot directly down towards the ground.
The rest of the craft exploded like fireworks, but that
core where that plasma light was, after it sucked itself

(15:15):
into it, that collapsed directly down near the bridge. So
it exploded. We were all terrified, just like a fire
If you didn't know what a firework was and you
saw a big one for the first time, you're gonna
think Debrie is gonna come down and hit you. Yeah,
there was debris everywhere, but we were afraid that pieces,

(15:35):
you know, we were gonna have chunks of this going
through our thing. Some investigators found some things in like
the back of our yards. But to the best of
our knowledge, we did not have any debris physically hit
our house. But there was some things found by unknown investigators, unnamed.
We don't know who they are, but they were in

(15:56):
our backyards taking pictures and they collected a few things.
It's stranger, trust me. That was in the following days.
But instantly we just witnessed something explode. My mom hung
up the phone. She called nine one one and she said,
please send help. We just had some sort of aircraft
crash and explode behind our house. Later on, in the

(16:18):
police reports, the police say, my mother knew better than
to call and say UFO crash behind the house, because
we wouldn't have responded the police. I have transcripts. That's
what the police officer said when the mutual UFO network
was interviewing all the cops and all that. So I
have all this information. So my mom played it right,

(16:41):
and ten minutes later the police come to our house.
They take initial where, what and when. They go to
my aunt's south same thing, Where what and when, and
that's it. That's all we saw of the police. They
went to the road, they closed the road, They closed
the road down and for the remainder of the night, myself,

(17:03):
my mom, we stayed there at the house. We weren't
going out. It was late by time everything start really
going on. It was ten thirty, almost eleven o'clock. You know,
it was raining dark, there were no street lights. We
lived out in the middle of farm country, out in
the creek. But this all happened. Twenty five minutes after

(17:26):
my mom made the police call, we had two black
cars pulling our driveway. And that's when the story gets
really deep, and some things happened. My mother was threatened.
My mother also asked some questions and she did receive answers.
I'm not going to get into all of that, but
at the end of all the questioning, all the answers,

(17:48):
and these two men wearing black suits and one gentleman
that came out the second car dressed in air force attire.
These three men they threatened my mother. They said, tomorrow
many investigators are going to come and you will say
it was a helicopter, or we will take your son away.
So these scumbags. I have a vendetta against these what

(18:12):
people call men in black's that's what they were. The
two were the other guy was an air force. They
worked together, as everyone knows. But I have a vendetta
personal for you know, for the sake of national security,
because this thing exploded within two miles of a nuclear plant.
Nuclear plants since nineteen seventy seven have a ten nultiple

(18:34):
mile no fly zone around them. Nothing should be flying
around a nuclear plant, let alone exploding. And if the
public found out that we really don't have control of
our skies and that we're sitting ducks with our nuclear
facilities like Malstrom Air Force Base right where they the
UFOs powered down our entire nuclear arsenal in ten minutes,

(18:58):
Like there's stuff going on and it is national security.
And they threatened a twenty two year old single mom
that they would take me her three and a half
year old child away. There was a lot more to it.
The men in black. They knew my mom was a contactee,
she was an abductee. She was being taken by these beings.

(19:21):
Hence why the craft was back there. It's a whole thing.
The men in black said very little, but they did.
When my mom asked a specific question, they would answer
to a point, and they did verify some things. But
I don't even know if I want to trust them,
you know, I don't know how bad they were manipulating

(19:43):
the situation, and they said, for example, my mom asked them,
what happens when these beings are taking me and I'm
up somewheres and my elderly grandfather and my baby is
here and I'm off somewhere is what would happen if
something happened to them? Well, good mom questions all my
mom's questions, she asked. They were a mom couldn't care

(20:05):
less about the aliens. She was concerned about the safety
of her family. That was it. And the men in
black used that as a weapon. They got the info
to see what she cared about most, and they used
it as a weapon, the silencer, and it worked. It worked,
And long story short, they answered, they used small grays
that stay behind and if anything was to happen to you,

(20:26):
they would have you back. And they snapped their fingers
really weird, like to signify fast, and my mom was like, okay.
My mom asked them, are these things dangerous? And they
replied if they were dangerous, do you think we would
still be here. The second question was my mom asked,
why don't people know about these things? They said, we're
doing everything we can by preconditioning, and within the next

(20:49):
ten years you will see signs of extra thresholds and
UFOs in all forms of media. And they went like magazines.
You know, back then there wasn't Netflix and stuff like that.
But those were the three questions my mom asked, and
you know, they were all logical. She had a high
school education, she was pregnant with me at eighteen years old,

(21:10):
you know what I mean. So like it. You know
a lot of people, Oh, she should have done this,
she should I'm like, we're just farm people. You know,
a lot of these crazy things don't happen to the
UFO experts. They happen to backwoods people that no one
cares about that. And you've heard these stories over it's

(21:31):
never the it's never the big name experts out there
that have these experiences. The experts only talk about the experiencers.
But the truth is the experiencers are farmers. They're subcontractors
that have worked on things, but no one listens to
them because they're just the crane operator. They're just the
guy carrying the sheet metal. They're just the guy making

(21:53):
them bolts and nuts. You know, it's a shame. I
believe to really find the answers, we need to kind
of get away from the experts and really start to
hone in on those who first hand experienced these different phenomenas,
including the paranormal as well. But yeah, so long story short,

(22:14):
my mom said, Okay, Philadelphia News came out eventually to
show sightings, n mysteries came out, Meufon, the mutual UFO
Networks started coming out, investigating, documenting, getting all the transcripts,
blah blah blah. The local newspaper released it, and Bud
Hopkins started working with my mom as well, and Bud

(22:35):
Hopkins would do these hypno regression therapies and my mom would,
you know, relive a lot of her encounters. And I've
seen a lot of things, unfortunately, things I wish I
didn't see, but interactions. I've never been taken by aliens
or anything like that, but I've seen things happening to

(22:56):
my mom. My mother's husbands all witness like sleeping in
the middle of night, the whole room lights up white,
and my mom would just be gone that like so
many people witnessed it. Even though we didn't have those experiences,
something was going on with my mother, and unfortunately in
twenty twenty. It was June twenty twenty was when I

(23:21):
found six pages of undeniable evidence and then I waited.
My whole life. I shared privately to friends, but I
never went public with this because I knew no one
would believe me, not without having some sort of documentation
that happened. And unfortunately, the men in Black they scrubbed everything.
Someone in Sweden dropped this evidence one week before the

(23:44):
Pentagon released a Tictec UFO. I found my UFO crash
story from a server in Sweden, one week before they
dropped the Tictech UFO. And when my story was starting
to get buzzed and I was getting on radios and
everything locally in Jersey, guess what happened. The same exact week,

(24:05):
people in North Jersey recorded a blimp for the Giants
football Stadium, the Goodyear Blimp of twenty twenty. That went viral.
So my story was getting rise, and that's what they do.
The algorithm pushed a no fake UFO sighting that was
clearly a blimp that drownded out my story and there

(24:29):
was that, So that's how they work. Anytime you got
you know, they got a bigger news story to drown
that out, because anytime someone would type UFO New Jersey,
UFO crash, my story was starting to come up in
the algorithms, so they the Goodyear blimp, and then the
story was forgotten about. But I didn't stop. I kept
on going. I kept on releasing once I found the evidence.

(24:53):
You know, Unfortunately, as I was saying, my mother passed
away two months before I found this evidence in March ninth,
twenty twenty, So her whole entire life she went without
having the proof, the evidence. So many people laughed, made
fun for even though I knew she was telling the
absolute truth. I witnessed it. I've seen enough to know

(25:16):
and it it just broke my heart that I couldn't
get disclosure for my mother. She just missed everything happening,
and she suffered greatly for it. You know, after that,
she really started drinking heavily. You know, she noticed that
when she was drunked and everything, these encounters when it

(25:36):
happened as much. It could be something to do with
the alcohol. It's poison. It's not healthy for you. It
may mess up their plans of whatever they were doing
with my mother. I don't know, but also just going
through experience and not having anyone to talk to about it.

(25:57):
It can eat a lot of people up. And I
know there's a lot of peace people out there that
may feel like this, and I'm just a little positivity.
I'm just asking if you're struggling, you know, find help.
You know there's other ways to handle this. I've been
down the same road. I've been sober for almost a
year and a half now, and that was after getting

(26:20):
into the community and being shut out by the Pentagon
Arrow Offices. They know who I am and they've been
working really hard against me, and I just gave up.
After I went to Washington, d C. For the Whistleblowers event,
I got to see the truth and I'm like, I'm done,
and I just left. And then I was bitter. I
was sad. I felt like I failed my mission. I

(26:41):
failed getting my mom's story out there and helping all
those other women and men who have been through this
and trying to be an advocate to allow others to speak.
I find people that have never been on the podcast
and I allow them to share their experience because I
see my mom in a lot of other experiencers. I

(27:02):
know how that pain feels too for real, not like
imagine in our head. Oh I had a dream, you know.
I'm talking about physical things you see with your own eyes,
things that are documented.

Speaker 6 (27:15):
You know.

Speaker 5 (27:15):
It can be frustrating and it can really send you
down a dark pass. So you're not alone. Seek help
out there, and there's different ways, and don't lose hope,
because when the time is right, things will come to
the light, things will be exposed. It just it takes
thirty six years, yeah, for me personally, and it's been

(27:37):
a journey. And like I said, my mom passed away.
I found that I felt guilty. I had so much
guilt and stuff. And then I created We Are the
Disclosure to help others like my mom. And then when
I released the first part of my documentary where I
only read just straight, I read three pages of the
evidence of the UFO crash, you know, and then I

(27:59):
told people, but what actually happened?

Speaker 4 (28:01):
You know?

Speaker 5 (28:02):
After that, other people that were involved, other witnesses, firefighters,
et cetera. They all started coming forward and I had
a mass pouring of additional things. Now I know exactly
what happened at the crash site, you know, because my
cousin was the fire chief and he was turned around

(28:25):
by the coastguard who was on the ground. They had
black tarps there and they fire truck was pulling up.
The marsh was all tore up. They had a massive
black tarp which I remember why I told you the
centerpiece that corps shot directly down, that's what that was.
Firefighters were turning around. They went back. There was curious

(28:47):
girls at the firehouse that were hanging out. It was
a local hotspot. We didn't have any bars, we didn't
have any restaurants, no stores. All the young'ins and hung
out at the firehouse with the firefighters waiting for something
to happen because there was nothing else to do out here.
Country folk, you know, real country folk, that's the truth.
And you know, and those two girls they went back.

(29:10):
The first ones saw they had the roadblock and they
had a tree cutting service removing a couple of trees
in the area. Local tree cutting service. It wasn't like
military or anything like that, which is strange. Then the
other girl, you know, another forty minutes after that. That
would have been around The final girl went there around twelve,

(29:33):
So the crash happened at ten eighteen. The last girl
was there around twelve twelve ten and at that point
she saw a normal flatbed truck with the orange lights
on top and they had a black tarped material on
the back. She couldn't see what the material was, but
it was something big, and you just saw the black tarp.

(29:53):
It was lightly raining, so like the lights of the amber,
you know, reflecting because there was no street lights, so
all you could see was the lights that were on
the flatbed reflecting and illuminating that glossy black tarp. And yeah,
they had the whole sight cleared by the latest twelve

(30:15):
thirty right around one three search and rescue helicopters, one
with thermal cameras. They were looking over the area until
four am in the morning. My mom stayed on the
phone with the helicopter pilots the whole time, letting them
know when they got in the spot right there, right there,

(30:35):
right there. But little did the three search and rescue
helicopters know that those that wanted that debris already had
it out of there, already had it out so they
were searching for nothing.

Speaker 7 (30:49):
And it is what it is.

Speaker 5 (30:52):
And that story is known as the Lower Alloways Creek incident.
That was the moment that opened up my eyes, and
I've been surrounded by paranormal not just UFOs extraterrestrials, but
unexplained things that I can't explain. And for right now,
you know, what we're talking about today is some of

(31:13):
my UFO footage, which I have been recording the skies
for the since twenty twenty. For five years, I was
using my cell phone iPhone thirteen recording awesome things. But
you know, it's still an iPhone. But recently this past winter,
I got a Psionics night vision camera and it's really

(31:35):
stepped up the game and I've just been skywatching more
and more. I don't do it to record UFOs. It's
meditative to me. I love going out in nature. I
love hearing the bugs, I love feeling the wind, and
I think the stars are beautiful. Even if I don't
catch anything, it's just so enjoyable to me just getting
out there, and you never know when you're going to

(31:57):
see a meteorite, starlink or something truly unexplainable. And I
use satellite tracking software. I use a couple of things.
I have an app on my phone that's really cool
because you can point it up there and I track
all visible satellites. So if I see something and it's
visible to my eye, you know, I check the thing

(32:20):
and then if that's not on the tracked visible satellites,
I know it's not a satellite. Now, my night vision
camera has a capability to see beyond the human eye.
So sometimes my camera these real faint, little white traveling dots.
Yes they're satellites. I don't see them with my eye,
but my camera picks them up. But they're clearly satellites,

(32:42):
super super little faint, no nothing, just cruising. And also
keep in mind I'm a logical skeptical person as well.
You know, if you see the Chinese Space Station or
the International Space Station, they look like giant orbs. And
obviously some of the videos so we'll we'll play here
soon you will be able to tell, you know that

(33:06):
they're pretty big, even bigger than the ISS and the CSS.
But to everyone out there, it's important to have this tracking.
The ISS is super easy to track, and you know,
if you do see a giant orb cruising through the sky,
just check your local ISS and CSS settings because it

(33:27):
can trick you. There's been times where I've recorded the
ISS thinking it was or I check. I'm like, well,
I'm not posting that. One time, I actually did post
it and I told everyone it was the ISS and
I tracked it, and everyone in the comments was fighting
and arguing with me, saying that, no, that's a UFO,
and I'm like, the ones I say are a UFO

(33:52):
are actually unidentified. And then the ones when like, I
did a video showing everyone what Venus looks like on purpose,
I made Venus look like a UFO, and I said,
don't get fooled by this, and people just get they
take it the wrong way, but I also capture actual
I just want people to, you know, be informed so

(34:13):
we can put good data. There's no such thing as
bad data. People recording planes and calling everything moving a drone,
but there's no such thing. I'm just happy people are
watching the skies more and more, more people have cameras,
more people are spending time outside looking up instead of
looking down on their phones. That's excellent, and that's what
we want to encourage others to do, you know. So

(34:36):
it's all, you know, no such thing as bad data.
But for me personally, I try to you know, I
don't want to make a fool of myself. You know,
because everything I do is based off of hard evidence.
So it's like, I just I want to follow that lie, you.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
Know, totally, Herriah. We recorded the ISS couple of times.
One was on purpose and one was as you said,
it was like, oh, look, I don't know what that is,
and yeah it is definitely.

Speaker 5 (35:08):
Uh massive, yeah h yeah, And it could trick the
best of us, you know, because I mean, at the
end of the day, what we're recording all these strange
lights and phenomena, regardless of how crazy they move or
how they react. Truth is I I'm not there. I
don't I don't know what they are. We're just seeing

(35:29):
it from the guy. Everyone has their own speculation about
what these things are. I keep that in my head.
I just really try to show my footage most of
the time. I'm talking like a five year old because
what I'm seeing is just when you see something so
breathtaking and amazing, you just start to act like a child. Yeah.

(35:49):
If you're not afraid, you know, you're just like, oh,
that's the crazy. It's like seeing Disney World for the
first time, like whoa. And it still gets me sometimes
and I'm like, man, I'll never see anything crazier than that.
And then a month goes by and I see something
crazier than that, I'm like, and then my reaction is
the same, and I just sound like an idiot. And

(36:12):
you'll notice that with a lot of Skywatcher videos. When
we capture something truly awesome, we just kind of go
back to like this childlike faith. It kind of reminds
us of that faith we have when we were children,
before the world taught us not to believe in anything,
as you well know.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Absolutely, so, do we want to start watching some of
these videos here?

Speaker 5 (36:37):
Yeah? Yeah, let's start with the first one. So the
first one, I put three videos. There's gonna be three
Daytime videos. All of these videos happened back to back
to back. There was like a one minute gap. I
thought the first one, I see this thing coming. I

(36:59):
start recording it. I thought it was a one and
done like a couple, you know, thirty seconds goes by,
there's another one, and then by the third one, I
had an idea that there might be something coming, and
I got to record it coming and it's very interesting.
There are four in total, So yeah, get give it

(37:19):
a play and let's check it out.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Absolutely, I want to take the second to remind everyone
that if you're just listening to this on a podcast
platform after the fact, we are a video platform as well.
You can head on over to YouTube and search the
Untold Radio network and watch the videos with us here.
Give you a second two pause and head over to
do that. Otherwise, if you're watching live, you're already seeing it.

Speaker 5 (37:42):
So here we go.

Speaker 7 (37:45):
Oh my god, what is this? Oh my god, Oh
my god, where is this. I'm in South Jersey. I

(38:13):
thought I saw lights.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
You can see it moving and kind of shifting some
sort of sphere. But there's movement.

Speaker 7 (38:23):
I'm going in the yard.

Speaker 5 (38:26):
I was actually taking my dog out.

Speaker 7 (38:28):
Incredible unidentified object.

Speaker 5 (38:32):
I had a smoke in my mouth.

Speaker 7 (38:35):
Shm, holy smoked.

Speaker 5 (38:44):
Great reference Jersey.

Speaker 7 (38:46):
The sun is just setting. I thought I saw something.

Speaker 8 (38:51):
I couldn't see it, completely silent, no sound whatsoever. At first,
it looked red. When it was coming towards me, it
looked like red red.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
Which you'll see that in the last video.

Speaker 4 (39:09):
Okay, wow, Yeah, for anybody that that's just listening or
hasn't changed over, it's not a definitely not a and
it's it's round or like kind of looks morphous.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
Kind of moving the black spherical morphing object. Man, that
was cool at dusk. The sun's still going.

Speaker 7 (39:32):
Now U A p U s O.

Speaker 5 (39:36):
Wow, what did I just see? Holy smokes, that stuff
was crazy. And then a couple Is this a replay?
The next one? No, the next one, The next one,

(40:00):
Robert Earl White.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Order of light.

Speaker 5 (40:02):
I got another one, the second one thirty seconds after.
Look at that?

Speaker 7 (40:11):
What's that?

Speaker 2 (40:13):
One?

Speaker 5 (40:13):
Kind of looks like a cube there for a second,
and when they get directly above me, my camera goes
completely out of focus to the point where it disappears.

Speaker 7 (40:23):
On hold on, holy oh my goodness, yeah focus.

Speaker 5 (40:32):
I've used this phone so much I've never had this
kind of issue.

Speaker 7 (40:37):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 5 (40:38):
I was getting so angry.

Speaker 4 (40:41):
This was an iPhone. Yeah, I mean that's quite the
zoom on it. I mean you can't see it at
all until you get right up on it.

Speaker 5 (40:49):
So it's for four cases frames per second.

Speaker 7 (40:57):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 4 (40:58):
Well, they're just winked in.

Speaker 5 (41:00):
And originally I thought maybe my camera was dirty or whatever,
But as soon as it got like distorted in my
camera away from me, I was able to see it again.
And then the next video it does the same thing shapes,
and that's why I'm thinking it may have been whatever
it was somehow. This is the second one messing with

(41:23):
my god, Oh my god, could be I don't know.
It was just very strange.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
We've talked on my other show about like Bigfoot using
infrasound and the vibration of it vibrates the camera lens
and doesn't allow for it to focus that way. Oh wow,
there's another one, some kind of vibrational one often like
that as well.

Speaker 5 (41:52):
Just like I said in the red Light, that's the
same object. And in the beginning of this click there
was one going down. It's very low and it comes
back up by the end of this clip. If you rewind,
oh that's part of telephone, you'll see it in the
end of the cliff. But look, look when it was

(42:13):
approaching me.

Speaker 7 (42:14):
Is the third one.

Speaker 5 (42:16):
It looked like that. Then it turns off and turns
into a black sphere. Oh so weird.

Speaker 7 (42:27):
Oh my goodness, it's moving quick.

Speaker 4 (42:36):
So you got yourself a question here. Now this one
and this one being red, doesn't kind of follow that pattern.
But beer Ax here says, they look like they're floating
in the wind. What rules out balloons? Did they ever accelerate.

Speaker 5 (42:51):
I what you see is what you see. I've seen
balloons floating before. It just turned into the black sphere
that we're seeing the same camera malfunction. I don't know
where the balloons would it came from. That direction is
the Delaware Bay. If there's a bay there, it's marshland.

(43:16):
There's there's no cities around. It was coming from a
remote place of creeks and marshland. Those balloons would have
had it come all the way from Delaware and very
unlikely what I could see.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
I could see the balloon thought on the first two,
but then when you get to this red one, I don't.
I don't know if.

Speaker 5 (43:37):
Any but the other one would reflect. But the first
one started off red and then I was trying to
record it, like I said at the end of the
first and the problem was it was red. I pulled
out my camera, it disappeared. I didn't see it until
it was behind me. So if it was a balloon,

(43:59):
I should have saw when it was above my head,
and that's when my visible eye, not what was on camera.
I didn't see it until, like the first video, it
was behind my house. I only noticed it because it
was that massive red orb and then it disappeared and
I didn't notice it with my visible eye until it
was behind me. I'm here in south and look at

(44:24):
the path they're going. That's intelligent path that they were
just random balloons. Why are they all going over the
same tree?

Speaker 7 (44:31):
Incredible?

Speaker 5 (44:32):
Think about that. Why are their paths so similar? And
the one that was flying down about the crash into
my neighbor's house, it's back up in the sky right now.
Balloons don't go all the way down and come back up.

Speaker 4 (44:49):
What are these especially not if they're blowing in a
directional breeze like that in all Yeah, in order to
follow that path, they would all have to be blowing
in the direction all over.

Speaker 5 (45:00):
The same branch. Random wind and wind gusts does balloons
a separate It would be similar, but they would be
all over. Yeah. If you go back to that one
clip in the very beginning, you will see the one
going down almost about the going to my neighbor's house,
And that's the one we saw at the It would

(45:25):
have been the third little clip. It's kind of leggy.

Speaker 7 (45:35):
I'll take it.

Speaker 5 (45:36):
Oh yeah, Well, when people rewatch it, that third clip
with the orange orb and stuff. If you look down
the house across the street, you will see one actually
going down. That same one that was going down almost
into my neighbor's house by the end of that last video.
That other one we saw trailing behind that was the

(45:57):
same object. So it went down to my neighbors house,
and just from that span of it going down there
was that high in the sky. That that's that's not
typical balloon behavior by any means.

Speaker 4 (46:14):
Dookie Pickles would like to know what was the date
of these videos.

Speaker 5 (46:19):
I have them right here. I thought I had them
time stamped on there. I can look it up right now.
I got a time stamp on the original video I
posted on YouTube. I have the date and the time
stamp and all that good stuff. I just gotta find it.
I record hundreds of UFOs constantly, and all right, I'm

(46:49):
right here, cool, I got them.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
It was.

Speaker 5 (46:54):
July twenty third, July twenty third, eight fifty one pm,
So from eight forty seven pm to eight fifty one
pm July twenty third, twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (47:14):
Wow, so that was just recently that these were taken too. Yeah, alright,
I gotta figure where we were here.

Speaker 5 (47:26):
The next one will be somewhere right here a little
bit more. The next one is a night vision shot
of a massive pink one that I saw, which was
quite interesting. Yeah, it'll be really dark. It won't be daytime.

(47:50):
Uh yeah, yeah, perfect. Yeah, this is a big one,
all right. Not the ISS, not the CSS I checked.

Speaker 6 (48:06):
Holy smokes, this one is bright. There's the plane Robert
Earl White, South Jersey. Oh my goodness, look at this. Look,
thank you, guys, Holy smokes. That so big.

Speaker 7 (48:24):
Oh, thank you guys. Please come closer. Pa, Oh, this
is one of the closest ones I've ever had. Oh,
come close.

Speaker 5 (48:35):
Sometimes the camera changes colors of things. This one was
actually pink to the that's a ble eye. I've never
I've never seen a pink one. Never, never, never never.

Speaker 7 (48:48):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 5 (48:58):
So from the way you're kind of talking, were you
all like.

Speaker 7 (49:03):
Pink? It's pink?

Speaker 5 (49:06):
What did you say? Were you doing like a or
something that you're I don't really do that. I just
go outside. I have my camera in hand. I spend
the hour to come watching the sky.

Speaker 7 (49:20):
You're so close.

Speaker 5 (49:21):
This one was right after my grandmother that die right
where skywatching that color and yeah, I was just out skywatching.

Speaker 7 (49:32):
Oh, my god, you're beautiful.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
Every night, if it's clear, I try to go out
for an hour two and just see if anything weird happens.

Speaker 7 (49:44):
Look at the bank glow.

Speaker 5 (49:46):
Some nights are busier is bank.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
It's kind of hard to the video being zoomed in
like that. When you zoom back out, it looks like
it's changing directions, or it's where you point the laser.

Speaker 7 (50:01):
You can go, now, you can go.

Speaker 5 (50:03):
Thank you. There is good enough.

Speaker 7 (50:05):
I hope next time you come.

Speaker 5 (50:07):
This part's wild. The second it gets to the branch
and I tell it by, it just turns off. Thank you,
like it wanted to be seen.

Speaker 7 (50:17):
Really appreciate that.

Speaker 5 (50:18):
Disappears and it goes like it was just showing off
for me, and I said, thank you. Okay, bye, guys,
I appreciate it. That's good. Come closer next time. And
two airplanes. Look how tiny those airplanes are? You tell
they're flashing the air differ aplanes. Look at the orb

(50:39):
compared to those giant masses. What the heck was that
an airplane? Okay, so back in this just a bit here.
I want to look at this again.

Speaker 4 (50:50):
When the disappear here and it goes out, okay, So
I'm gonna pause this. The tree line here lights up pink.

Speaker 5 (50:58):
What was that that? There's a street light to the
right of me, and the street light, the glow of it,
the color it was illuminating on the trees. I know
some big podcast channel YouTube channels shared it and they
were like freaking out about the light and the trees.
I'm like, that's irrelevant. That's the street light. I have

(51:21):
a night vision camera that sees in ultraviolet. It changes
some colors. Some colors are different. But you saw my
green laser pointer. My green laser pointer was green. Some
colors stayed the same. It's an infrared night vision. It's
not gonna look like your color camera. And there's a
street light in front of my house, the same street

(51:41):
light that was in the daytime video that we saw
the orbs going. You see all the poles, there's a
street light, and when the street light hits the trees,
because I was standing close to the tree, the ambient
light reflects off of the trees and creates this this
Q and we watch it's it's really interesting. That looks

(52:04):
like it looks like the Yeah, a big spotlight or
something goes across. It was really cool. And look the
car passing by. I think I heard. I think I
heard the car passing by the streetlight. So what I
just recorded was not an airplane. Okay, Wow, I don't

(52:31):
suppose did you happen to look those planes? Whatever this
thing is. I've seen some things I know on some tracks.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
Oh yeah, it would be interesting to see how far
up those were, to see how big they were.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (52:50):
Yeah. But my instant thing after this, I didn't go
to flight tracker. I went to is S S and
I went to my satellite because I wanted to make
sure it wasn't the ISS. So I didn't check flight
tracker because I saw the planes. I knew that wasn't
a plane, but I wanted a triple check that, like

(53:10):
some sort of new space station wasn't launched without me knowing,
like I wanted, because it was too big. And you've
seen the CSS and ISS. It's not that big. It's
not that big.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
No, it's hard to tell from the video, but I
would I would say, yeah, it's not Yeah, what about
and I and you may have known more than me
on this. I don't know when those those flight trackers
and stuff do they track.

Speaker 5 (53:37):
Not if they're on a mission. Well, yeah, if they're
active military operations or classified crafts, No, they are. I've
recorded black helicopters that weren't on flight tracker, clearly helicopters.
I saw them with my own eyes, flying at night.
They were obviously active doing something that will not come

(53:58):
up on flight Tracker.

Speaker 4 (54:00):
What about like spaceships or not space ship's UFOs, but
spaceships like Elon Musk and NASA and stuff.

Speaker 5 (54:08):
Does the track.

Speaker 4 (54:09):
Starlink Yeah, yeah, yeahlink, not starlink, but when he launches.

Speaker 5 (54:14):
Falcon nine, Yeah, the rockets to the station. There's a
bunch of apps. I used Satellite three D and they
in the haants things. You can actually not just track
stuff like that. You can actually track space jump like
space debris like old pieces and stuff because sometimes you know,

(54:37):
things can flare up. You can track a lot. There's
other apps that specifically track rocket launches, like I forget
a few weeks ago. Everyone it was during the meteor shower,
which I recorded meters. I didn't record the new the
rocket launch. I knew it was coming, so I wasn't

(54:58):
full that everyone else posting all over the internet. I'm like,
if people would just checked, they would have known that
was a rocket launch. There was a reason I didn't
record it and post it up and get all the
you know, Yeah, I was, and I was, I was
looking for the meteorites, and so I had my camera

(55:19):
facing the opposite So everyone that saw this rocket that
were looking for meteorites, they were looking in the wrong
part of the sky to begin with. Otherwise they would
have never saw the rocket because all the meteors were
happening in a different area. And I recorded some and
they're beautiful.

Speaker 2 (55:35):
It was.

Speaker 5 (55:36):
It was beautiful to watch, really cool.

Speaker 4 (55:39):
Yeah. My point was is, like, like you said, a
couple of weeks ago, there was the media shower and
then this rocket. And in my little town here, I
follow like the local you know, community boards and stuff
like that, and I was really surprised and all of
a sudden, this UFO popped up in there and it
was quickly debunked as the rocket. But I was, I
was just curious because I mean, we don't have the

(56:00):
I mean, they don't shoot rockets as often as the
space station going over and stuff.

Speaker 5 (56:04):
So I've never.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
Looked on flight Tracker or any of these trackers to
see if a rocket showed.

Speaker 5 (56:10):
Up flight Flight Tracker would not have the rockets because
that would be your satellite tracking apps a Stellarium, I believe,
and a few other ones. The NASA website is a really,
really useful because they'll put something up any time a
launch is about to happen. That's a guarantee way of

(56:32):
knowing when up and coming launches. But you know there
are classified projects. Yeah, and that rocket, it was a
new kind of rocket. It wasn't it wasn't your normal,
it wasn't the typical. It was a brand new one
they were testing out, so it looked a little different
from the Falcon nines. And my stepfather he actually worked

(56:55):
for SpaceX and Space Force Kate Canaveral. He was a
crane Opera subcontractor and he actually built the SN two,
the second starship. He was stacking it and I actually
got to go to the work site and check it out.
It was amazing to see them stacking all the towers.

(57:15):
And he's worked on a lot of classified stuff underground
at the Cape, actual national security stuff. And we have
a lot of technology up in the skies and we
are building things for outer space. Congress Stone you know
about it yet, So we'll see we'll see. But he

(57:38):
was the one building these things that are larger than
you can imagine, and obviously they're not going to be
floating around in the skies down here. You know, they
keep talking about taking down the space station by twenty
thirty or whatever. You think we're going to take down
the International Space Station and not have a news station

(57:59):
up there? Why is no one talking about the news station.
It's because it's already built. Why would they take down
something without having a replacement for it. Oh yeah, and
it's three times larger than the Empire State building. Go
figure that one space force. It's going to be weaponized too,

(58:23):
with technology far beyond these underground facilities where they build
these things. Technology down there. You know, the guys that
work down there can't comprehend it. They try to explain
it to me, but they don't understand what they're seeing.
They just go there. They're not allowed to have their phones.
They do their job, they put together the pieces, and

(58:43):
they go home, and you know, they've seen stuff. I've
had multiple people at work for a same company. They've
seen flying saucers and SpaceX hangers in the hangars. Not
the work sites, but the SpaceX hangers and keep connect.
They were going home from work being shoveled out and
one of the hangars was partially open and then started

(59:06):
going down. And yeah, they've seen flying saucers and things
of this nature, and a lot of people subcontractors. That's
what I was saying earlier. Uh, you want good whistle blowers.
Talk to the guys. You know, someone has to build
these things. If these things exist, we got to talk
to the people that are building them. And when they're

(59:28):
not going to let the engineers talk, the engineers aren't
going to talk. It's gonna be the guys with the hammers,
the ladders, the cranes. You know, it's gonna be the
little the little grunts. You know, they're gonna be the
ones more willing to open up and talk about what's
going on. But we have a lot of technology, so
I think it's a mix of everything, you know.

Speaker 4 (59:54):
So this is the third part of this video, right, Yeah, okay, so.

Speaker 5 (01:00:00):
No, this is a completely different one. Like we just
saw that massive pink one. This one was a completely
different one that I just locked in on. Once again,
I S not C S S, but uh yeah, just
give it a play. It's a different color.

Speaker 7 (01:00:17):
Look at this one. Look how big it is.

Speaker 5 (01:00:29):
That One's not one big that's the other.

Speaker 7 (01:00:32):
Look how big that one is.

Speaker 4 (01:00:34):
Wow, like a plane going over the top of the two.
We're not over the top but above it.

Speaker 6 (01:00:41):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:00:43):
This is where it gets in and rest.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:00:46):
Seeing it through the clouds.

Speaker 7 (01:00:49):
Wow. Look how bright that is? Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:00:53):
Look at it shining through the clouds.

Speaker 6 (01:00:56):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:00:58):
That's what's cool about this video. It was so bright.

Speaker 7 (01:01:04):
Oh my goodness.

Speaker 5 (01:01:06):
You see the clouds.

Speaker 7 (01:01:08):
Yeah, through the clouds you still can see it.

Speaker 5 (01:01:12):
That's heavy clouds right there and you still see it.
Oh wow, whoam out the cloud? Like That's what makes
that one interesting. The cloud Wow, and there it goes.

Speaker 7 (01:01:27):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (01:01:29):
Yeah, not as big as the other one. But that
cloud action was an airplane.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
Yeah, that's interesting too. Look you got you got airplanes
right in the footage. To compare it to and say,
look at this is this is what my camera shows
as an airplane versus what the other thing is planes.

Speaker 5 (01:01:50):
Those are planes. I love when that happens. So it's
not always like that, you know, I just wow. But
to give people an idea, it's great for reference. I
always try to get that reference to show because I
know logical people that are watching this skeptical. It's healthy

(01:02:11):
to be skeptical. You should be used discernment, be skeptical.
But I understand most people see something in the sky
as a plane, as a drone. It's a satellite is
a that. So I understand those concerns. And as I'm
trying to document these things, I'm trying to collect as
much data as I can with the technology I have.

(01:02:32):
And trust me, sometimes it's really really hard to be
watching the skies and checking satellites. What I do is
I see an object, My focus is on that. I
have my satellite stuff, I record it, and towards the end,
as it's fading out, then I check because it's still
there and I can check everything, but I got to

(01:02:54):
make sure my main focus is documenting it, and then
I can check that. Sometimes I will just have it going.
But if I'm constantly looking at this, so sometimes I'll
see something coming on the horizon, I'll hurry up check
it before it gets big, before it gets over me.
I'll hurry up check my satellite tracker and like, is
there anything coming that way? And hold it up. It's

(01:03:16):
just a satellite, not gonna waste my time. Let me
look over here, you know, things like that. Sometimes I'll
look through and in satellite tracking, once in the blue moon,
because there's thousands of satellites. Once in the blue moon,
you'll get like a three or five minute window where
there will be absolutely no satellites over wherever you are,

(01:03:36):
depending on where you are. But every now and then
I get these little satellite breaks three to four minutes,
possibly five where there are no satellites, and that's when
I really really look because I know for a fact
there's nothing going on. But it's hard a time, you know,
a four or five minute window, and most of the
time I'm just standing out there and just waiting for

(01:03:59):
the big thing, waiting to see something I haven't seen before.
That's as I progress. I you only can record so
many lights in the skies before they're just all lights
in the skies. I need more. I need them to
step it up. I need crazier things. I need them bigger.
I need more erratic movement, more materialization, more odd phenomena,

(01:04:25):
faster speeds like. I want more and more, and I'll
never be satisfied until I'm riding in one done, you know.
So I'm just trying to figure it out. I have
no idea what these things are. I have my own
personal beliefs, but uh, I don't need my personal beliefs
when I'm documenting things, you know, put it out there.

(01:04:48):
People will think what they want. But more importantly, I
hope it encourages people to look at the skies so
they can have their own experience. Because it's one thing
to hear someone else's person little experience and have questions
and be skeptical. It's another thing to have your own experience.
So everyone get out there watch the skies. Universe is beautiful.

(01:05:11):
The stars are beautiful. Something magical about looking at something
that hasn't changed for thousands of years. All of our
ancestors looked at the same stars. The people we read about,
the men of old and renowned and ancient religious books
and etc. Regardless of your faith, all of these native
cultures and groups and ancient structures and history all point

(01:05:35):
towards the stars. There's something magical about that connection and
looking at them and realizing how small we are. It
kind of pulls everything together. You realize we are but
one speck of dust and a much larger picture. And
I think people like us. We're just trying to figure

(01:05:56):
it all out, you know, absolutely, man.

Speaker 4 (01:06:01):
We are coming up here on the end of the show.
I want to invite anybody that has any other questions
get them in before we wrap things up here, and
we will try our best to get them in before
we sign off. Dookie Pickles did want to know have
you seen or experienced any of the drones that were
going on over in New Jersey and from other people
in New Jersey?

Speaker 5 (01:06:22):
Are they still seeing them? All right? I'm uh, I'm
gonna blow your whole crowd's mind. Remember the famous drone hunter,
the guy shooting at the drone in New Jersey. That
was my drone video that I put CGI gunfiring bullets over.
Joe Rogan ended up talking about it. Everyone shared it.

(01:06:43):
A bunch of people stole my original video where I
wrote the gunfire is CGI, but the drone is real.
Drone footage that was recorded December fourth. I sent it
to the FBI Field office. It was an XP four,
a military drone being you in high weather. I have
the source at Locky Martin. These drones were definitely ours.

(01:07:05):
In my video, I said it was our drones. It
was before like the real big drone height. I said,
they are theirs. And the reason the day the media
want you to believe that these things are aliens is
because what they are is more terrifying than next to
your terrestrials. These are highly sophistical. This is my source
from Locke Martin. These drones have highly sophisticated satellite technologies

(01:07:29):
and capabilities. They can see to books in your living room.
They just passed the law here in New Jersey and
we have a second house that we rent out, and
they're passing all these lead laws where you have to
get rid of all the lead to rent out your house.
And all this is because lead paint blocks out their
imagery and they can't spy on you. That's what they're doing.

(01:07:49):
These they are searching for people and or things. This
was told to me from Locke Martin. I did a
video on it. I was the Drone Hunter, the famous
video that what nuclear viral, billions of views, top trending
story on X and everything else. But it was stolen
from me, so no one knew it was me, and
no one read the disclaimer of CGI bullets. We actually

(01:08:12):
had a lot of news agencies New York Times, Et cetera.
Contact me. It was wild. It was wild, but yeah,
we had drones.

Speaker 4 (01:08:23):
So I had heard from some other places that originally
there was Chinese drones over there, and it was you know,
like the government didn't want us to worry about it
or whatever, and so they put up their own drones.
That's kind of like, oh, look they're still happening.

Speaker 5 (01:08:39):
And coming off the China mother a Drone ship they're called,
and then yeah, yeah, interesting, And then we had to
kick it in the high gear to make sure our
drones are operational to combat their drones. You see what's
going on there, and we were behind at It's scary

(01:08:59):
how far we are behind some of these other countries.
We've really slacked off for the past twenty years. We
got sleepy.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
Yeah, And as bizarre as that sounds, you know, to
some people out there, I think that that actually does
make a lot of sense, that here are foreign adversary
is flying over us, and what do you tell What
do you tell the American people? You say, you know, oh, yeah,
the Chinese are here, but don't worry about it. No,
you you put up your own and go, oh, we
don't know what this is, but don't worry about it
because we know what's going on, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:09:30):
And they were just ours everyone. Sorry, Well, then why
didn't you tell the police chiefs. Why didn't you tell
the the the officials of the government. Why didn't you
tell Congress? Why didn't you tell saidate? Why was everyone
in the dark? If they're just ours, someone shouldn't known. Yeah, yeah,
because at first they weren't. Yeah. No, dude, now now

(01:09:54):
on the head, you got it, man, that's amazing, hell
awesome man.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
Well I well, thank you so much for coming on today.
We are at the end of the show, and so
tell everybody where can people listen to your podcast? Where
can they get it? More information? Do you have any
events in person, stuff speaking stuff that you're going to
be at this year?

Speaker 5 (01:10:14):
Yeah, so I have a pretty busy, busy year ahead
of me. But you can find me on YouTube, Robert
Earl White, Order of Light. That is my YouTube channel,
and you can find tons of interviews other UFOs I've
recorded on video the past five years, one hundreds of them,
and also my show that is on that YouTube channel.

(01:10:37):
We are the Disclosure where I have different guests come
on showing their UFO footage and us just talking about it,
asking them what do you think it is? I have
amazing co hosts Sarah, She's really cool. And then my
main focus has been a new thing. I just started
Paranormal Unearthed. My good friend Anthony sen Player and I

(01:11:00):
we are traveling around investigating some terrifying places and we're
just getting everything ready. We just got done investigating the
Seaview abandoned haunted tuberculosis hospital and Staten Island built from
nineteen oh five to about nineteen thirty eight. Thirty seven facilities,
three miles of underground tunnels, absolutely terrifying. That will be

(01:11:22):
on our new channel at Paranormal Unearthed. So yeah, I'm
getting more into the paranormal world, just like you and
I believe it's all connected. And I'm just to the
point where I've recorded enough in the sky and when
it comes to the paranormal on the ground, it's a
lot closer and a lot closer. And if I get

(01:11:46):
that lucky and fortunate to capture weird things in the sky,
let's see why I can capture a super haunted or
speaky paranormal hotspot. Maybe I'm a beacon. It's been my
whole life, you know, I've had weird things happening around me.
I lived in Gettysburg for two years. I lived right
in the center of it. I used to do my

(01:12:07):
Bible I was a pastor. I went to Bible College.
I used to do my homework at Devil's Den on
the rocks the battlefield, and right at dusk, right at dusk,
when the summers start going down, you would see the
shimmering ghosts, like not intelligent, they didn't even realize you
were there, just like fading in and out, like amazing stuff.

(01:12:30):
And I would just be sitting there. I'm like this place.
So my whole entire life, I've done a lot of
awesome paranormal investigations all over the place, and I'm just
returning back to my first love and you know, still
doing the UFO stuff, but you know, I want to
explore more. It's a big paranormal world out there, and

(01:12:52):
there's so much of it. There can never be too
many people investigating it. For sure.

Speaker 4 (01:12:58):
Absolutely definitely have to have you back, especially when does
your paranormal episode come out.

Speaker 5 (01:13:05):
We're shooting to have it out sometime in October. Okay,
So we've released a trailer and a promo reel and
all that to give everyone a little taste, and yep,
we're putting it all together. It's a lot reviewing footage,
you know. I had a lot of footage, and I'm
glad I painstakingly reviewed it because called a lot of stuff,

(01:13:28):
things I would have completely missed if I was just
looking for cool clips, you know, like watching the abandonment camera.
You know, that's painstaking. But we got a bunch of
cool sounds and things like that, and other or monomalies
and thermal footsteps. I don't want to give too much away,

(01:13:49):
no spoilers, but we definitely had a couple speaky things
happen and a little inside. We physically got stuck there
and panic mode. We were locked in against our will
and we had to find a way to escape and
that was not fun. You know, I don't mind going

(01:14:10):
to speaky place. I don't like being physically locked in
and we didn't ask for it. If something happened, I
don't want to say too much, but we did escape
and we weren't hurt. We weren't hurt. We were a
little sore the next day, but we got out there.
Oh very cool, spooky.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
Well, hopefully everyone can go check that out and we'll
have to have you back on like November and stuff
after it's come out and you can share more and
some more.

Speaker 5 (01:14:39):
So yeah, I appreciate it, brother, absolutely.

Speaker 7 (01:14:42):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
All right, Well, for those everybody interested, all of your
links are in the show notes so they can head
on over to your YouTube and Facebook and all that.
It's all in there for them. But thank you again
so much for coming on. It's been absolutely fascinating interviewing.
I look forward to our next conversation so.

Speaker 5 (01:14:59):
That we'll make it happen awesome, man, while we'll.

Speaker 6 (01:15:02):
Talk to you laire.

Speaker 4 (01:15:06):
All right, guys, that is our show for this week.
Thank you all for tuning in and watching. Remember to like,
subscribe and share all of Robert Earl white stuff and
his YouTube channel and go check out we are the
Disclosure his show if you want more UFOs and disclosure
and interviews and stuff like that, but otherwise head on

(01:15:26):
over to Untold Radio Network. Remember to like subscribe and
share our show here at the Paranormal Spectrum and all
things here on the Untold Radio Network. Until next time, guys,
I'm your host, Barnaby Jones, and remember we're all part
of the Paranormal spectrum, take care, be well, I'll see
you next week.

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See in the room and I can be.

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